Pablo Torre Finds Out - Why Everyone Says "Let's Gooooooo!": The Lost History of a Phrase, from Shakespeare to Taylor Swift

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Quarterbacks yell it. Gamers revel in it. Bros text memes and hashtags of it. And as displayed on live TV in the NFL regular season AND playoffs, even Travis Kelce's girlfriend loves it. How did a simple phrase transform from a Jumbotron clap-along into such a ubiquitous exclamation? With apologies to Tom Brady and Lil Jon, correspondent Jeremy Taché searches for the real GOAT of "Let's Go!" Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. Tom Brady, you and I split screen, and let's let the nation decide who is the goat of the let's go! Right after this ad. You're listening to Giraff Kings Network. Okay, so as we look ahead to a conference championship weekend, and by the way, it's electric, honestly, in the AFC, you have the Chiefs and the Ravens, and the NFC, you have the Lions and the Niners. I cannot help but think about one phrase

that continues to decorate every step of this postseason and will undoubtedly define the Super Bowl itself. It is a phrase that every team says, every team is declaring this online in real life, whether they ever think about it or realize it or not. And let's be honest, most of us don't take a second to wonder why we're all saying it. but it is the specific reason that I wanted to bring you this episode, this investigation, today.

We hear inside the PTFO newsroom have been grappling with a particular dilemma. So there's a team of journalists out there, and I see them. They are working on something, all of them together. And what it is is they are working on why you've worn the same blue jacket every single time we've taped. It is a cardigan. It's not a jacket. It's been overworn. It has high thread count.

You have not taken it home to wash it once. It is naturally resistant because of those fibers. Do you have any other cardigan or sweater type of outfit? I have many cardigans. I have a lot of knit wear. That is not the dilemma. It's not apparent. No.

If you watch this show. The dilemma we're here to discuss and how dare you. How fucking dare you. It's a nice cardigan. I'm sorry, but you do wear it a lot. That's all I'm saying. The dilemma is far more pressing. This sweater does not smell.

The dilemma is how we're supposed to cover Taylor Swift. Right? The threadbare sweater of American media these days is talking about Taylor Swift because we should just say it for people who have been

I guess in a coma for weeks now. Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelsey and it is the most overcovered, oversaturated it's the most overdone story in all of American culture. Bro, I apologize. I was not listening to anything you just said because it just hit me.

Like, you in the cardigan, it's not unlike, like, a doctor, like putting on, like, a lab coat or whatever it is they wear, and they're like, oh, now I'm a doctor, and they go in or whatever. You put that on when you walk in here, like, I am now a journalist. I'm just trying to make my parents proud of me. They're not.

But I was. contemplating, I was contemplating truly like, how are we going to do this differently? How are we going to stitch together our own beautiful high thread count quilt that addresses the Taylor Swift story? And so I did notice one thing. 11th play of the drive. Mahomes walking in. So there it is. The touchdown of Kelsey. This may be the first time in history of the patch of Mahomes isn't the most popular player in Arrowhead. But Taylor Swift in the house, Travis Kelsey. says, oh, baby.

Now, if you are not watching on the Draft King's Network or on YouTube, what you cannot see there is Travis Kelsey, yes, Kansas City Chiefs, tight end, scoring a touchdown. What you cannot hear there anywhere is what Taylor Swift is very obviously saying on live television in front of all of America, behind the glass of a luxury box, right next to Donna Kelsey, which is let's fucking go. And this mostly just went like unremembered. remarked upon, except by certain people.

Here you have Taylor Swift, probably just met Travis Kelsey's mom for the first time. They're at the game last week. And she's going, let's effing go, right in front of her. Travis Kelsey said that everybody in the booth that she was sitting in, his family, everybody said that she was so lovely. Lovely. I'm sorry. If I heard that and my son was dating a girl has a mouth like a teamster, that's it.

Like a teamster. Bro, what's wrong with this Fox News guy? Like, let's fucking go is everywhere. I've seen it in sports for a year. I see it everywhere. I say it myself. Yes. And that part, what you're saying here, profanity aside,

that's the thing that hit me about this. Because you're completely right. Everybody everywhere all of the time, all at once, seems to be saying, let's go. Quarterbacks say it. College kids say it. I've seen Formula One drivers say it. NBA players say it. say it, teachers say it, gamers say it all the time.

What I wanted to find out is something that I have long been curious about myself. Why? Why is everyone saying this same phrase as if this is a meme that they're all forced to retweet? And it turns out you're not the only one with that question, because when we put out the call for voicemails to our great listeners, it turns out one of them had a very similar question to that. when they do something. I genuinely love our listeners. I do too. Call 51385 Pablo. If you have more questions, please.

The assignment. The assignment inbox is open. That's what I'm calling it. But all of this really did feel like the universe itself was calling us to investigate this question, right? The question of who deserves the most credit for this phrase. And the good news is that I knew exactly which PTFO correspondent that I needed. to go on this assignment.

I'm thinking of the same guy. Yeah, chairbear. Oh, God, fart bear. Jeremy Tashé, we meet again. How old are you? I'm 28, Pablo. Just, even the voice is already giving me PTSD. So, you're 28 years old, you're very young,

you forced me to reckon with my mortality, and you're bringing me back into the time machine. Because the last time I saw you, Jeremy, or at least the time that I cannot forget, It was April. The Miami Heat were playing the Milwaukee Bucks in the NBA playoffs. And I was hosting, sitting in Dan's chair, trying to direct a conversation among you Miami Heat propagandists. And in that conversation, suddenly, I heard you say this.

Let's go! In that scenario, I was just trying to add a rifle. punctuation to one of our beloved heat propagandists in Ryan Parakeet Cortez, someone who obviously is beloved here at Pablo Tori finds out. And to me, I felt like he just needed some support. To me, you felt like Wiley Coyote over the canyon realizing that, oh, yeah, this is, this is going to go south real quick. Let's go!

And we can play it one more time. actually just for, you know, just thoroughness. Let's go! The reason that I was saying it to begin with is because I was sort of following what athletes have been saying in moments like that. Forgive me, what athlete were you channeling there specifically? I think it would be unfair to name any specific athletes in this scenario. I don't want to throw them under the bus.

There are lots of suspects. So that's the thing about the story is that you start to just peel the first layer back and you're like, this is omnipresent. Well, there are a ton of options, right? like you have Nick Foles in the 2018 Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles. You have LeBron James who will say it before games. Yes, I've heard Formula One drivers say it after their races, which means that both pregame and post game, athletes are using this, right?

It kind of means everything. It's kind of like, at this point. It's a word that gets deployed to mean all sorts of things. Like, it's a call to action as well as a celebration of the action. you already had successfully completed. Yeah, it's Shalom, essentially. No, it's one of those words where I don't know. I guess the part with Let's Go that's confusing to me is that I don't really remember it existing growing up.

And you pointed out, I'm super freaking young. So it's not like there's been that much time for all of these phrases to evolve. And for us, elder millennials, Jeremy, we are similarly confused. All we sort of know now is that the word, of American life, right? In 3,000 point font is let's go. And it's there now, it's hanging over us. And so this is why I came to you with an assignment, an actual journalistic task for a guy

who is allegedly a reporter. How did we get here? Like, how does human speech in this way go viral? Who was the patient zero of this movement? It's a great question. and yes, I did spend weeks reporting this. I mean, we spoke to other journalists. We spoke to people within sports, people within entertainment.

I mean, really, it kind of went across the board. And this goes beyond the standard jumbotron calls of like, let's go Yankees. Or let's go Mets. And I think that's the part that's kind of crazy. We were just talking about it, right? I don't remember it growing up. And I think that's my first takeaway from going down this rabbit hole in this assignment. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

So you went down the rabbit hole and you didn't find anybody there? I mean, if you're polling America, the obvious and easy patient zero would be Tom Brady. Are you ready? Let's go! When you see that, you're like, oh, right, of course. Of course every bro in a quarter zip sort of fleece, they're cosplaying as, as Tom Brady, yes. Well, and that's the part, right?

Tom Brady's supposed to be Mr. Let's Go. You know, he's been using this sort of elongated version of Let's Go, the one that we're talking about, the scream, the guttural version of it, since at least 2015 at the Patriots victory parade. I saw a viral clip from like a conference, I think. This was last month. A viral clip from a conference where Brady sort of took us inside the action.

studio on this. You've got to create a lot of different emotion to heighten your sense of awareness and focus. Like, for me, anger was good. Anger was good because it was motivating. The more I could create an enemy, the more I wanted to go on and kill those guys. Now, I knew I was going to kill them physically. But man, if I could just, what did they say? You know, and what did they look like? Do they disrespect me at all? You know, and did that full say something? Like, those are little, little, little things that can get me right in the emotional frame of mind that when I ran out on the field and I said, let's fucking go. It was really, let's go kick some ass. That's what we were doing.

That is the sound of people applauding a sociopath. I mean, that's what that sounds like. He literally was like, let me figure out what it's like to channel a serial a serial a serial a serial. I'm not going to do it, but I want to get it. That's right. So who inspired Tom Brady to say this then? Like in your investigation, is everyone just like seeding intellectual property rights to that dude? No, absolutely not.

Like that's not going to happen. And we'll get to the guy that, you know, really thinks he may very well be behind it. But I can tell you that it's not Taylor Swift as someone who is a resident Swifty around these parts at Metal Arc Media. She does, hey, she does have a song and unreleased song. mind you, called Let's Go. I need to stop you there, not just because I am worried that I don't know enough Taylor Swift stuff to actually be a working member of the sports media today, but also because I do want to turn our little sports journalism enterprise here into something of a trademark office.

Because the question we're circling is like, who owns this phrase, right? Like, what's the standard here that we're using to determine who Mr. Let's Go or Mrs. Let's Go would be, So to me, standard number one was pretty simple. Let's go had to be organic. It couldn't feel forced. It couldn't feel performative. It's got to come from that deep place inside of you, that guttural place that this is not something that I have planned.

So like listening back to some of your previous episodes of Pablo Tori finds out, Russell Wilson started all of a sudden making his catchphrase, let's go because he heard that Taylor Swift has been saying it. Well, you know, that wouldn't necessarily apply. Right, right, right. So Russ saying, by the way, Russ saying a lot, go hawks in Seattle. That doesn't apply either because, again, the letter of the law there, not exactly the same thing as let's go.

Right, because for standard number two, the letter of the law wasn't enough, right? We want to talk about the sort of spirit of the rule. As we continuously discuss how this is sort of an emotional thing, I think the spirit of the law matters here. And so the phrase let's go, it's really been around forever, but its usage, its spirit. That's distinct.

You need like, I don't know, at least seven O's in it. Right, right, right, right. So again, not like this. Let's go! But like even more O's, even more Hutzpah, I believe. So what's the lineage here? Like where does this origin story actually begin? Even the great all-knowing Wikipedia struggled to get all of the details right here

For example, Wikipedia claimed that there was a resurgence of a 70-year-old chant to a let's-go, go-go-go-white socks that led to the 2005 White Sox playoff run. But 2005 absolutely would predate all of the internet stuff we're describing right now. Yeah, and that's part of why this story is wrong, because we reached out to catcher A.J. Prisinski, who was on that team, a classic. A classic name in Major League Baseball. Of course. And he told us via DM that that song in 2005 was not really as much of a part of the White Sox World Series run as Don't Stop Believe in by Journey.

When you talk about the real origin story of this phrase, it goes all the way back to the late 1500s. It turns out that Shakespeare had a line in a comedy of errors. Now let's go hand in hand, not one before another. Yeah, listen to do that, now it does occur to me that you are a little more Shakespeare than Tom Brady, Jeremy. Yeah, more Shakespeare than Tom Brady, I think, is how anyone who knew me in high school also probably would have described me. But a writer for Slate, who we spoke to Luke Winky, he's also obsessed with this. He traced that that Shakespeare line drew straight from there all the way to 1942.

And that's when there was a recruitment poster for the U.S. Navy that read, Let's go join the Navy. Yeah, now we're getting, I think, significantly more macho in the evolution of the phrase. Yeah, well, the writer said the same thing, and he said that the militarization of this rally cry kind of gave it this communal masculinity in a sense. And so this phrase, just to recap here, goes from Shakespeare to the U.S. Navy out to like locker rooms, to stadiums, to the sidelines, to where? jukeboxes across America in the 1960s. Pablo, do you remember this clap? Of course, of course.

I found out where it comes from. It's 1962s. Let's go parentheses pony by the routers. And I was legitimately really excited to find this song because I think as so many sounds that initially come from songs, no different than Seven Nation Army, which has become an arena staple, I don't think I realized that that clap and let's go came from musicians,

came from a song. This is something I always just assumed was concocted for stadiums. And so the idea that this came from one place was really exciting. Right. Well, now that I'm thinking about like the musical catalog here, there's that. And then there's the Ramones. Right. And that was in 1976. And then the cars had a song called Let's Go in 1979.

And then in 1986, the New York Mets had a song. Do it. Now, this is the video for Let's Go Mets. This is essentially a hype video for the New York Mets in the middle of their season in 1986. A season that was going incredibly well, obviously led to them winning the World Series. And halfway through, they had this unbelievable idea to create a music video around a song. called Let's Go Mets that had everyone chanting, let's go. So this thing, as someone who grew up, was born in the city, in New York City in

in 1985, this thing, when I watch it now for the podcast audience, what you're missing on our YouTube channel is essentially like a giant singing pile of cocaine. Even watching it, you know, behind the seeds video on the VHS that we were able to find here, which that was a journey in itself. the energy behind it is crazy because you have, you know, players juggling baseballs for the camera, blowing bubbles,

and there's all sorts of extra shots that they had to get. Who the fuck are the people behind this? So we spoke to the ad man who commissioned the video, as well as the jingle writer, who made the song. And he also directed the video.

And what they told us was a ton of different information about what, What was going on behind the scenes here? First and foremost, the ad agency that was working with the Mets initially, they reached out to Billy Joel, to Elton John, to Stevie Wonder, and ultimately they settled for someone who they had already worked with on previous jingles. So the ad man gives one direction to the jingleman.

It better be fucking great. That's just good coaching. It is good coaching. It is good coaching. And the jingle guy told us that, and this is a direct quote, what can people get their head around with six beers in them? And so that's sort of where this simple let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go starts up. You know, he had no comment.

What were they on, Jeremy? What were the players in the video on? He had no comment about whether or not the Mets who were notorious party animals were particularly on anything during the video shoot, he said that the energy was up. It did sound like a lot of fun on set. I mean, there were notes of Ron Darling playing air guitar on a baseball bat. Keith Hernandez sat the director down and told him that initially the players were really excited

about the song and making the video because they all thought they were going to be rock stars and make a million dollars apiece for some reason, which they did not. And what the director told me specifically is, quote, they all wanted to be rock stars. That was the level of childhood naivete. So this is what's going on as you have all of these players behind the scenes. It's amazing. But this director,

I imagine that this director must look upon this work as the greatest of his entire career then. Well, he also wrote the jingle for the Meow Mix commercial. It could not have been a better thing for him to have done than write the Meow Mix commercial.

Like, it's perfect. I am reeling now at the arc that you're tracing here, right? So we go from William Shakespeare to Meow Mixed And now, as I assess the English language, Jeremy, and you are a crypto-Cuban. You're quietly a Cuban-American. Crypto-Cubit is great. Crypto-that's a new phrase I'm going to use all the time.

I'm thinking of the Spanish language for that reason, right? And as a person who knows Spanish and marvels at how to do it better, I want to point out that, like, Vamos. Vamos is a thing in Spanish. Vamos literally means let's go. And that's been a thing forever. And Vamos, when I think about what that word means versus what Miao Mix guy had the Mets doing, right? Like there is an edge to Vamos. There's that Brady, the Tom Brady animosity to Vamos.

And so which of the English-speaking artists that you surveyed here, Who came closest to sort of replicating that specific quality? Well, for that, I believe there's only one answer. The modern bard himself. Yes. How could I have forgotten? I mean, come on. It's going to play at every single arena.

You're going to hear it constantly. We did reach out to Liljohn multiple times, but a humble guy himself. He refuses to come out here and take credit for the origins of... Oh. After the break, we figure out. who deserves the throne that Lil John somehow abdicated. So I want to be intellectually honest here with you, Jeremy, because I think we're dealing with something that is legitimately tricky.

Because what we're trying to do is solve the mystery of influence, right? And influence is not the same thing as being first. William Shakespeare cannot just in the comment section of human history say first. And so the question really is about who is the most influential and maybe even who is best. It reminds me of like the problem that advertisers and marketers are facing, even in the age of the internet. Because our brains are so noisy. Our brains are so reluctant to assign credit for things. And so I feel like that's a complication here that we got to reckon with.

Who deserves credit? Look, Pablo, all of that is fair. all of your intellectualism is appreciated. But I do think I found the guy who deserves the most credit. Oh, God. I remember this man? I want to describe this man, Jeremy, for our podcast audience. What is happening in that video that you just resurrected for me?

Well, this video that you're watching is of Matthew Driscoll. And so Matthew Driscoll is the North Florida men's basketball coach. He's been there since 2009. but what's wonderful about the visual of this let's go is you have a head coach who is approximately eight inches shorter than everybody else in the room. Yes, at least. Right off the bat. Wearing a white shirt and tie.

Okay, a white shirt and tie tucked into his dress pants. Facing away from everybody in the room. It's kind of an amazing reveal. Like you don't see it. at first. The team is walking away. And what's beautiful about it is you only see the team at first. You hear the Let's Go in the background, but you see the team and then slowly there's a bit

of a pan and then a quick, sharp zoom right into Matthew Driscoll who's yelling at the top of his lungs. Pablo, he is my Mr. Let's Go. This was in the A-Sun title game in 2017. Of course. Of course. Who could forget the 2017 Atlantic Sun title game? I believe the only Atlantic Sun title game to ever go vote.

viral. And I talked to Coach Driscoll this month. Well, first of all, I want to say thank you for having me on. It seems like it was so long ago when in reality it was right around the corner. What is this guy like in like actual human conversation? Well, he says he's been doing this basically forever in sort of a more punchy way, though. More of a, hey, let's go, come on, let's go, let's go, let's go. That type of. mentality. Hey, let's go. Hey, let's go. Let's knock it out.

Let's go. Let's knock it out. Let's knock it out. Let's knock it out. Let's go. Let's go. But then one day in 2015 during a conference semifinal, he let out a sound that I imagine sounds somewhat like this.

What I have found out already in this episode, Jeremy, is who your exact opposite is, because that is the diametric inverse of this. Let's go. He is the greatest. And he is the king of the let's go, and I think he knows it, right? He loves when other people do it too, and he'll be the first to judge, which I think is great. He's kept track of when LeBron said let's go. He's kept track of when Brony James has said, let's go.

He's kept the receipts. He judges, Pablo. He judges. Instead of America's got talent, I could be sitting up there. I don't know if you bent the knees enough. I'm not sure if your back. If your vocal cords were extended enough, I just really don't. I don't think you hit that note.

The crescendo, it really didn't crescendo the way it should have. The technique. The technique is what I am most impressed with now. Yeah, I mean, he has a down-noon art for him. I mean, literally, if you look at the video, he's someone who he stands away from his players. He says he always looks toward the wall as to not scream in anybody's face. He doesn't want to blow out their eardrums.

Sometimes it has to be a let's go. And then something doesn't go right, right? And then you have to kind of regroup, let's go. You know, and then, so now you get a different ending. The breath is huge. Whether or not you have a vitamin C drop in your mouth is critical. The way in which you take that breath before the depth of the let's go in your body movement because you don't want the diaphragm too, right, compacted,

because you want it to be able to breathe back out. This man is a teacher. He is a master. He is truly incredible at this. Does he get recognized because of this? Like out in real life? Oh, yeah. I was at Marshalls the other day with my wife returning something.

He guys said, I know that voice in her. I said, well, it's a good thing. No one ever says, man, I recognize your face. No, it's always like I know that voice. Does being recognizable is. in this way? Does that help him in his actual job? Does it help him, you know, recruit young people to play for the University of North Florida? Yeah, I mean, he said that in the middle of probably a half dozen different recruiting trips, there's been a, wait,

hey, you're that guy from the meme, right? And he had a recruit that actually ended up, I believe, coming to the school who drew out a picture of him as the meme, who's a bit of an artist himself. Who drew the arched back, the vocal cords, uncompacted, the dire, Fram extended. Yes, the veins just popping out of the neck. He drew it all. It was amazing. And look, he says that the team has let's go off,

that he'll continue doing the let's go no matter the team's record because he wants to be able to show that this is kind of a fabric of the program. He's still doing it every game. And one part that I think is awesome is that the school even has a sort of let's go competition during player warmups to hype up the crowd. Oh, my gosh. come down from the stands with an opportunity to scream, let's go. I mean, it's become marketing for the university at this point.

He does keynote speeches, conferences. It's unbelievable. It really is. I just want to say, for the record, I unironically want to hire this man to do the keynote speech. I want to start a conference just to have a keynote speech where he does this. He wants to be a proper influencer. I'll tell you that, based off the conversation, he suggested to me, and I kind of think he was only half joking.

He said that his athletic department should get. at three-tenths of a penny for every new view of the video. He's up to 385,000 and counting on YouTube alone. That's not including any of the times I sent it in my group chat. I am now trying to piece this all together because you gave us two standards in the last segment for deciding who Mr. Let's Go ought to be. And number one, I believe, was that it needs to be organic. It needs to be coming from deep inside you.

and this man feels like the Marianas trench when it comes to where this is coming from. So obviously, check on standard number one. Absolutely. So number two, I think we, how many O's did you say we needed? I think it was seven. You're right. Okay, so let's try and count this.

Every time we played, it feels like there are more O's attached. But yes, I think we're hammering the over on this one. Yeah, I think if we counted, we'd probably get closer to 700 than to 7. He smashes the over here. I think we're in good shape. So did you tell him, Jeremy? Did you tell him on behalf of Pablo Torre finds out that we were deciding his place in linguistic history, that a coronation was on the line in your interview?

Yes, I did. I did tell him. I told him that he topped both Liljohn and Tom Brady. and in turn, he actually coined his own new phrase. Well, first of all, that's a kind honor, and I want to say thank you. And second of all, I think when something's genuine, I think it certainly separates itself and it allows it to be whatever it becomes.

And so I'm not a Shakespeare. I'm not a long fellow. I'm not any of those people. But I would say that I'm very, honored that you would phrase it that way because it, you know, that's pretty good rapper and that's obviously the goat. So that's pretty, hey, maybe that could be the goat or the let's go. Wait. Is he saying that he is the let's goat? I think he is. Look, Coach Driscoll is still pretty decidedly pro-Lill John in this narrative, but he legitimately thinks that he can take tumber.

it wouldn't even be a competition. And real, I'm serious. It wouldn't be. I mean, if you want to do this or do this real quick and get him on someday and get me on and then have a national vote to see he bring Gronkowski with him, he can bring whoever he wants to bring with him and let the best person win. Now, he can't use the explicit if, because, you know, a lot more people are in the secular population. me vote for him. So Tom Brady, listen, coach Matthews, Ristakle University of North Florida, apparently you and I both have a let's go that's been very, very popular over the years.

We know you're the goat in football. But let's see, you and I split screen and let's let's let the nation decide who is the goat of the let's go. This is me actually having to take my headphones off. Like that, that actually did bust my eardrums. That is not a joke. He is, uh, full of energy, you could say. Full of expletives as well, which I love. He said he's not Shakespeare. I disagree. I fully disagree. He's creating words. He's creating words. But hold on. I didn't even admit something here, Jeremy, because the reason I went into this episode was because I had a very strong feeling that let's go was dead and that you specifically, you were the murderer, that you had killed it in April.

And then when I saw Taylor Swift appear on national television in the most now famous game of the NFL season, I thought I was just watching her, you know, like just run a steamroller over what was already a corpse. And now, after having, you know, my, my cerebellum burst by Matthew Driscoll, I kind of got to admit that I want to see the let's goat prove that he is, in fact, the greatest of all time. I'm just already sort of concerned for society as to what will happen if UNF ever runs off a match, March Madness tournament win. The levels of energy on that let's go from Matthew Driscoll might.

I think people would actually die. I think power plants could be fueled by it and lives would be lost as a result of it. But you do raise a good question here. And so I should ask for journalistic thoroughness here when Matthew Driscoll gave that iconic let's go, right? This is 2017. The one with a zillion o is that made him the greatest, the let's goat. Did they win that game? No.

They lost. by 16. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's perfect. Jeremy Teshe, thank you for your reporting. Wait, am I allowed to real quick try to redeem myself? No. With one final better, let's go?

No, no. But I have a feeling. Let's go! Okay. Please stop. Okay. At the end of this episode, I found out that I need to look inward.

At my own vocabulary. because the number one phrase that I absolutely abuse and beat into the ground through sheer repetition is lull. You know, L-O-L-L-L-L-L, laughing out loud. L-L is all over my texts, and I always say lull ironically, obviously, because I would never be the type of person who says it sincerely. I say it as a parody of someone who would say it sincerely. I say lull all the time as a joke. But after hearing from the deafeningly sincere Matthew Driscoll and Jeremy Tashay, I realize something important.

If you say any phrase often enough, it can no longer be considered ironic. In fact, if you say any phrase, often enough. It just becomes who you are. This has been Pablo Torre finds out, a Metal Arc Media

production. I'll talk to you next time.