Pablo Torre Finds Out - "You're Gonna Get Me In Huge Trouble": Adam Friedland Is a League Source Now

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

The alleged Jon Stewart of his generation steps down from his YouTube throne and into our studio to discuss what LeBron's agent taught him; why the hell Pablo watched the Super Bowl with socialists; how it felt to audition for the role of SBF; and what PTFO revealed to his dad (about how Democrats can be evil, too). Plus: Clavicular, Bob Kraft, David Stern, Lena Dunham, the real-life Rod Tidwell... and Tony Kornheiser protesting the only thing tech has made that's good.• Subscribe to The Adam Friedland Show• Get tickets to see Adam Friedland live Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. If David Stern were commissioner, Pablo would be dead. What do you think about that? Right after this ad. Can we talk about your meeting with Rich Paul? I mean, it's funny. Yeah, I mean, why would...

Why would I not? I mean... Are you a clutch client now? Are you a member of... They are UTA. Yes, UTA owns clutch. Yeah. LeBron's agency, which is Rich Paul's agency

and not LeBron's agency for various CBA reasons. Whatever has happened in my life in the last year is hilarious. Because I'm going to blow it so badly. I talked to you on the phone. You're in L.A. And you're like, I have a meeting with Rich Paul. I said as a joke to UTA

when they were trying to sign me, and the next time I'm in Los Angeles, I demand a meeting with Mr. Rich Paul. And they were like, yeah, they thought it was serious. But I guess I talked to him. about podcasting because now he's going into the podcasting space. He's one of us.

Yeah. But I think they told him that I was like David Letterman or something and he's like tell me about your process, your motive. And I was like... Did he tent his fingers like that? No. He was doing golf in the office. Golf swing with a club? Like it was like a movie.

So cool. Yeah, yeah. But then like at a certain point he was taking calls. Like the last 15 minutes. We had a great conversation for 45 minutes. I was making a laugh. And then I think he'll come do the show, so we'll tell the story on the show. So I think this should be fine. But then at a certain point, I'm like loitering in the most powerful agent, probably in basketball's office. Certainly the guy who has created the most headlines recently.

I think dollar amount Scott Boris is probably number one, so. Yes. And like Jerry McGuire, the real life, Jerry McGuire, Lee Steinberg. That's a real guy. Darren McGuire is a guy named Lee Steinberg. Next, you're going to tell me that, uh, Rod Tidwell is real. Who's that supposed to be? I would guess that Rod Tidwell was inspired by any number of Michael Irvin types. Yes, yeah.

If I had to guess? Loyal guys. Who want money. And next you're going to tell me the goldfish was real. Next you're going to tell me Renee Zellwiger is a real person. Jonathan Litnicki. Was right, the human head weighs eight pounds.

I saw a picture of him as an adult recently. Can you describe him? He's like five-two-yoked guy. He's... He's clavicular, actually. He became clavicular. I lost my big Friday interview also. What happened?

He got charged with two felonies in Arizona. He can't leave the state. Clavicular, a kickstreamer has been arrested in Scottsdale, Arizona. Here's one version that I saw of the Quintagal mugshot, and here's another one over here. So for people who don't know who clavicular is, it's hard to describe him. He is a looks maxer, which basically, if you're translated, is what?

I suppose it's creating an idealized, kind of version of self, of masculinity. Enhancing one's jaw, enhancing one's kind of facial features to fit some sort of criteria that they have for like the best-looking guy. And it really is a... Golden ratio, like, ah, there's like a math

and an objectivity to being hot. Yeah, it's really some of the smartest stuff you can imagine. The interesting thing is it's a audience of men, really. Yes. And so he's not like a, it's someone being sexy not for like tween girls, be like, ooh, la la, it's someone, someone being sexy for guys. And then, and then the objective is to kind of to mug another sexy guy. And, and magging is to, I think we used to call it like alpha-ing. Alpha-ing.

I think they probably still do. I don't-f-all. Are we pedophiles? I mean, like, this is just disgusting that we. know even any of this. You're supposed to come in. It's such a perfect Adam Friedland show guest.

He has been blocked in every corner. Because the first question I have is like, have you ever made a girl laugh with a funny joke? But that's jester maxing and that's cope. Obviously, that's what I'm doing. And now it made me look in the mirror. It's like obviously I

have bells on my hat. I've been juggling and tricking these women into sleeping with me. He knows exactly what my scheme is. Right. You're cortisol was spiking. He's right. I had to learn how to be funny to attract the opposite sex, and I didn't, I could have just been breaking the bones in my face. Whether it be with a hammer, with your fists, either or to, you know, grow your bones and get a more

masculine, chiseled face. You smashed your face in, and what did you do after? Like you went to the doctor and they reconstructed you? No, no, no, no. So it's just small micro fractures and the bone grows back stronger, according to Wolf's law. Like how a hammer or? Usually I'll use my fists So like I'll just lay down to my bed And brace my head so that there's no CTE I saw that he was streaming From his hearing

In Arizona Yeah Like he somehow got He was like co-streaming the feed From like the correctional Everything is like gotten like just Robocop But it's like caveman

Like like a mogoff is like MMA just the stair down Not the fight part Right isn't that Everything is just It's like, what if, like, we just stripped out all these extra elements behind things that already exist? What if we were just in our underwear, one inch from each other's nose tips and stared

and jester maxed? Yeah. MMA is like, what if, like, we didn't use bums? That's right. famously from the website, bum fights. Bum fights, yeah. That might be one of the most reprehensible things from our younger days. But now everything is bum fights.

Everything is kind of bumfights. Have you ever seen these... the pedophile hunter guys, streamers. I have. It is kind of end of history stuff because to catch a predator a guy,

and more often than not, it's like a developmentally... There are cognitive concerns when you watch these videos of like... They don't have them arrested also. They just like throw like a, like flower or something on them. They chase them around, I think,

and they publicly humiliate them. And then, but now, like, rappers will go on the pedophile, Hunter thing and promote an album on the to catch a predator's stream guy. It's so sad watching it. And then the guy

hits them. He'll like slap them across the face and he's like, you like kids and then like A-Con will be like locked up. Yeah. Oh, please, brother. You might want to sing along with me on this one. Oh, I don't know. You might want to sing along with me on this one.

No. You're about to get locked up. They won't let you out. They won't let you out. I was very content not knowing what anything was until I started the show. And now I have to like drill into like these different like. Now you're hunting pedophile hunters. Well, genuinely speaking, my objective for the Adam Friedland show is this. This is my thesis.

If it goes into a time capsule in 50 years time, if someone washes an episode back, they'll be like, that sucked. like what they like as a document of culture in you know 2026 that what the fuck was that you know that's that's kind of my on what level do you want it to suck i wanted to reflect kind of like how you know it to the extent that oh yeah bb's going on the nelk boys podcast in the middle of a genocide right like that sucks what's what's your message to why because a lot of americans don't think we should support Israel at all. That means you don't support America because for the terrorists, you know what the terrorists are fighting us? Because they say we're America and America is Israel. We have the same

free societies, the same free values. They want to drive us back to the dark ages of this tyranny. And Americans who say that, I think basically say, okay, so you support those who chant death to America, those who want to eliminate America. That's crazy. Oh, oh boy, this is. Niceest breath, though. Service. Yeah. Service. That's what we do it on the full sun pod. Thanks.

Like, hyping a genocide on a tranks and lifestyle and chugging and partying lifestyle content podcast is absurd. It's insane. Can you interview me as if I'm clavicular? How would you have gone about this? I'm going to hold him to it. I'm still going to do it. But you have to look at it as a 19-year-old, right? Which is like, that's the thing.

is like, okay, two things. There isn't a conversation culturally about the collective trauma that all of us have about lockdown, right? I think when COVID comes up, the extent to which we discuss it is Fauci, vaccine, Pfizer, yada, yeah. He was a kid. He was 13.

Yeah. And he was looking at pictures of hot guys. He's like, I'm going to be the hottest guy. on the phone. I mean, COVID didn't invent the phone, but there was only the phone for two years. And yeah, I think, anecdotally, I don't know anyone who died of the virus, thankfully, but I know a lot of people who have committed suicide and overdosed on drugs and who have, you know, relapsed on drugs. And when I think about kids, you know, how many kids had like unhappy households? And then couldn't see their friends at school for two years and only had the phone.

So him being a 19-20-year-old, you know, hopefully, you know, he'll look back on it and he'll be like, that was lame as hell, but he's made a lot of money from it. Right. And maybe try and be nicer to girls. I think when it comes to young people, the only way they're discussed in popular, I guess, discourse is like their genitals and like sex changes and stuff and uh

we are living at it's kind of mean the word cloud around kids in America has definitely been like pedophiles in like 1,000 point font yeah it's it's it's trans is kind of dominates the only way that we talk about kids and no it's genitals you're right it's it's genitals it's really genitals

it's all the way down it's genitals I have a cousin who third cousin, who's at Harvard getting a PhD in child happiness. And these are dyed in the wool libs, like Biden

Harris T-shirt kind of people. And yeah, he's studying child happiness in places where they locked down and where they didn't. And he said suicide rates, race of mental illness is night and day. And this is not an indictment of the concept of,

of lockdown. This is an indictment of the fact that we don't have a broader conversation about. The fact that kids weren't, the world kind of sucked for them. They weren't promised a better future. And I think to some extent, looks maxing is an extension of their declaring one's identity and having agency at least over something. And also there's an aspect of it that's communal, you know? And it's like ostensibly self-improvement. And the video that Clavicular is all over my timeline because, admittedly, I keep watching the videos. Yeah, he's so hot.

Yeah, I mean, his cheekbones. The cheekbones, he shattered into perfect angular shape. Yeah. But the video that I saw, which is haunting, is him out in the wild with, like, his girlfriend. I tried this shit the other day. What up, mommy? Yo, you think you signed my album?

Yeah, I got you, man. I got you, man. Yeah, no worries. Debra, we've been on your ass since the moment you were streaming since November. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Good stuff.

You think we take a stream photo? Yeah, let's see it, man. I bet. All right, in the cat of three. No, Hale Hitler. Three, two, one. Oh, my God. Love you, God.

And immediately, like, clavicular, who is, again, the sort of, like, paragon of this movement, the shattered and re-fashioned face of it. Yeah. You sort of watch him realize, what happens when he encounters his community in real life. It's a come-to-Jesus kind of moment.

I'm like known in Orlando as like the Asian mager. I would have the honor if you could verify me as the Orlando Asian mobber. Bro. Honor is mine. I don't know. You guys are kind of cringe, bro. It's just going to be real, you know. All right, y'all would go one.

Um, fucking kind of cringe. That was like the most. gay thing ever. I couldn't even mute, bro. I was fucking. I find it incredibly interesting because every once in a while a new character pops up and you're like, oh, this is farcical and I don't want to spend a second of my time thinking about it. And then you think about it and you keep thinking about it.

And he is just in a way that I both understand and also find deeply sad as like very dismissive and condescending to them for doing the thing that they thought they were supposed to do because they do it on the internet, but they did it in real life. And it's just, it makes him now realize, oh, shit, this makes me feel pathetic. It's fascinating because there are like a million of these different things that are super famous that you've never heard of. And then you hear of it and you're like, your role in whatever the media sort of like industry is now is somebody who can engage with all of these characters. When I say clavicular is a perfect guess for you, it's like, oh, you have the ability. to both see it in a way that is, I would say, unsparing,

but also clearly, I mean, you started from a position of, like, genuine empathy, of like, man, this, imagine being this kid six years ago. Well, we sucked at 19. We sucked, we were awful at 19, you know. It's fine to suck at 19, you know? It's fine. So you miss the Super Bowl because you did a socialism stream. See, this stuff is ruining our lives.

You used to know Woody Page. You used to get points for your... And I don't understand how Tony Realli was tough but fair. But sometimes it seemed a little bit arbitrary. I was sitting on... Our lives used to be nice. You have gotten to have meetings with Rich Paul. Yeah, yeah.

And I spent six hours on a couch, and it was a beautiful, welcoming couch. with Hassan Piker on his switch stream watching the Super Bowl. And by that I mean holding up my phone and watching it on my phone on mute because he didn't care about the Super Bowl. And I should have known that when I said, hey, he was in New York.

He was like, let's finally like get together. And I was like, what if we did something during the Super Bowl? And then he asked, what time is the Super Bowl? And I still decided to do this. And so I... Imagine describing... That's on me. Explaining going on the Hassan Piker's

to Tony. Imagine explaining to Tony. Okay. Yeah, watch the street. What do you mean? He's a communist? But he has big muscles? Oh, so he's some sort of wimp, right? No, no, he has big muscles. And you were watching on your phone.

Oh, I know Noah Coleman was there. I know him from the meetings, of course. I know for the... That's right. That's right. Thanks. Oh, God. Felix was there, too. Yeah, real sports fan.

Yeah. Well, he knows MMA. Oh, my God, yes. He talked about MMA at length, and I was outclassed by him on... Have you seen Felix's documentary fighting in the age of loneliness? Oh, my God. It's like... The one he did with John Boyce, the...

It's a, like... Yes, the one... Yes, yes. I didn't connect that that's... I'm such a... I am a poser now. I'm like sitting on this couch with these... with stars and your wing of the internet

and realizing, oh, my God. A couch? What kind of couch? Was it a casting couch? So you missed the game. Drake May really, the left side of the line did not protect him. Who was that on the left side of the line? Will Campbell.

They were just getting. It was destroyed. Yeah. Bad, really, really bad. Yeah. You missed they did some sort of Spanish halftime. I couldn't understand. understand it, but the guy, who

he was a real looker. The Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin, though, big fans. I was talking to Kornheiser yesterday, and I was talking about the Washington Post and all this stuff. And I was reminded that he refuses

to ever stay in an Airbnb. He's the best. He's like, why would I want to do in someone else's home? He's the best. He's the best. He just, like, couldn't even begin to comprehend. It blows my mind. Why that's a Why that's a company. It's the best company ever.

Think about it. We'll have a hotel. Oh, where? Everywhere. Oh, yeah, but it'll cost a lot of money to clean it and stuff. No, no, no. They do that for it. They're going to do it.

Or we make them pay us more. Yeah. Well, we'll need like a bunch of people like to manage it. No, no, no, no. No one. We'll need four lawyers in Palo Alto and like a couple tech support guys. We'll outsource that. It's sinister how good that is.

It's... It's the only thing tech has made that's good. Well, it's not even good. Your girlfriend wants to go to Frikan, Maine. It's ruined our lives. What was your favorite part of the Super Bowl? I don't know. The Bob Craft commercial.

Not listen to that. The anti-semitism commercial. That's right. Yeah. We worked hard on it. Yeah. You know who directed it? No.

Woody Allen. Did you know that? Oh, God. I saw that. The commercial sucked. The Blue Square Alliance. I posted one. I saw.

I saw. I liked it. I was like, I'm going to support Adam. He needs us in this moment. Well, it was a bad one? I mean, last year was kind of bad, too, because it was a blowout. We haven't had a good one in a while. It wasn't good.

I do want to point out, though, the Bobcraft stuff, it made me think of, like, A character that you talk to me often about is your dad. Yeah, yes. What does your dad think of you? He's very proud of me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Finally. My dad loves this show, by the way. That's why I'm bringing it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in the Pablo Razi, the Manila mob. He's... He's... He's...

He's... Team Pablo? Team Pablo. Team Paciao? Yeah. Fuck yow. Cut that. That was a pretty good Filipino.

I saw Team Paciow. I was going Cosmic bowling once at the Sun Coast Casino in Las Vegas. And I saw a bunch of guys wearing T-shirts at Team Pac-Yau. I mean, it was pretty awesome. It was them. Yeah, yeah. They were out there. My dad really hates the clippers.

So you, yeah. And he's like, but he says something crazy to me. He's like, it's not just the Republicans that are bad at him. It's all of them. Because I guess the connection of the. the Obama administration. You made my dad realize it. I've been arguing for 38 years with him

that it's all bad. And now his favorite... You're the favorite son, apparently. No, yeah, he would be very flattered to hear this. You had the best take, though, on my reporting. If David Stern were Commissioner, Pablo, would be dead. What do you think about that?

Okay? You sleep with the fishes. Yeah. I mean, after Allsar, are they going to finally... They're going to open it up. So this will come out on Thursday, which means that we'll have dropped our sequel to the seventh part.

So we'll drop part eight on Tuesday. And we'll see if we'll see. What's the most paranoid you've gotten? Just when you're talking on your phone and you're like... Someone's breathing in the... Well, it's just like, I don't know. I don't know what it sounds like when your phone is tapped, but I'm certainly a bit paranoid about like,

is that Verizon or is that a guy with $150 billion? It's me. Tony. That'd be so cool if he tapped you because he cared. He just wants to make sure you're okay. He does care about me. He is worried about me. Who's gotten the most pissed at you? I guess that's far.

One of them is Jordan Hudson, Dollar Tech's girlfriend, who threatened to sue me but hasn't yet, and also wore a t-shirt with Orchids of Asia. Did you see Portnoy's quote tweet? No. He's like, fuck this, not today. I mean, look, the Bob Craft stuff is, It's all the Epstein stuff too.

Like his lawyer for that was recommended by Jeffrey Epstein, guy Jack Goldberger. What, you're not allowed out of a lawyer? My dad has some medical stuff. And my sister searched the Epstein emails. And he was talking to a friend of his that has the same thing. And he's like, go see this guy is the best doctor. At Cedarsana. He's amazing.

He's taking notes on the medical advice That I mean I mean it's We should really view it as more of a resource Right a web MD What if the Epstein Files were also Crowdsourced webmd? Yeah no I

I would imagine Yeah Well I had Lena Kahn on the show Yeah friend of the show She's the best You have the richest owner in sports Mad at you She has

Every one of the richest companies In the world mad at her I love her For that reason if nothing else. She's fucking brave. It doesn't register, though, right? Like, I was like, have you ever listened that song, Many Men by 50 Cent?

She was like, no, I was like, never mind. I was going to go for a joke there. They wish death upon her. But I said to her, I was like, you know, there was an op-ed every single day in the Wall Street Journal of the Post, like, a FTC chairwoman, psychopath, you know, like, just trashing her.

And everyone was like, what the fuck the FTC? Like, you know. And I asked her, I was like, did you ever clap back? Or like, you know, what was your response? And the thing that was most impressive about her was like, it wasn't as if like, no, I'm above that. You know, like, I'm, you know, I don't play like, I don't go low.

But it was more like, what? It was like, no, I have to win the lawsuit, you know? So I suppose like that's kind of, that's kind of a, should be a lesson to you. It's like, I don't know, I'll just do another, you know, do another tattel's hail podcast. How dare you? Yeah.

The tattles. The public. I'm going to keep working this. None of this feels good. None of this feels good. Your guys are the tattles. I love that. I want to know what advice Richard Paul wanted to know from you.

Speaking of tattling. About podcasting. He wants his show to be more like a show. So he hosts this show with Max Calleran Ringer and Bill Simmons. Yes. And the way it's shot, it's like two chairs. totally black soundstage, dramatic lighting,

and Rich, who I had never seen talked this much before, is basically tattling on the Lakers all the time. Listen, your Lakers. It's UTA family.

But he did say, he's like, what, like, how could it differentiate more? And I think he probably met production value-wise. Because I think he saw clips of the show and he was like, oh, like the Adam Freeland show,

he's like, oh, this is like something similar. Did you start to... There was a moment where he paused and he got off a call because the last 15 minutes I was just like trying to say goodbye and he kept getting calls.

And I was like, I'm loitering in a man's office. We had like a great chat before that. But he did just look at the TV and he goes, oh, college basketball sucks. I don't know if I'll

get in trouble for that. No, that's a little. fair take. Yeah, yeah. It's a fair take. But did you get the sense that Rich Paul was mugging you when he was doing his golf swing?

I mean, like, I how important of a client am I to the United Talent Agency for them to have done that? I don't know. I think the agents didn't realize. But, but, uh... Did you tell him how much?

It was a cool style. I mean, if you, you're a corner office guy one day, like golf swing in... I did do something actually similar. I saw a behind the scenes thing about Conan and he was in the writer's room with a guitar like acoustic guitar and they were like pitching him jokes and he was like noodling

and I do have I do that with my staff. You're Conan Maxing. Yeah, yeah, I Conan Maxing. I always thought it was really cool. Yeah. I love the setup that you have. I mean, not only did you build the Dick Cabot set like it's your Truman show

but the backstage area is like it's you and your squad and you're like working. The voice, yeah. Editing shows. Yeah. Actually caring about making this good. Yeah.

Well, you don't want to do just another podcast, right? Yeah, I'm sure it's the same for you. It's like, how can we not do yet another show where sports takes are the entire premise? Yeah, yeah. So you're like, how could we just maybe more gossiping about... Scoop Troop. Scoop Troop. Scoop Troop.

The Scoop troupe. Yeah. The gum shoes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The Clousseau's, yeah. No, there has to be a better name for your guys. What about to the whistleblower?

Again, we'll continue to workshop it. Yeah. But the whole thing with you is that I was laughing on the phone and you told me that you're meeting with Rich Paul because you're also like the most underpentant Kobe stand that I know. Did you discuss? No, you did not. No, I didn't.

but I said to him Oh God I can't say it This is so funny Why? It's absurd That I found myself In this place in life

Just I think genuinely speaking I remember when I call you With the Kobe Memorial thing I was like Yes And I said

I have league sources now Is it Are you league sources And I'm like Wow This is so cool I mean Now know things

Now I know things. I know a lot. I know where the bodies are buried. You know where my body would have been buried, and you know where some actual bodies are buried. No, they would have, like, framed you for something. You would have been wrongfully accused. Right?

Or, I mean, like the Tim Donaghy thing, right? Like, he was about to go in with a wire and then it leaked. Oh, my God. Right? The whole New York Post thing. Yeah, yeah. The whole thing about how somehow the Tim Donagie's scandal got scooped by a New York Post, article that has since very, I would say, coincidentally been mentioned as helpful to what the

NBA was trying to do. Do you think that, like, obviously in the 1980s, it was kind of the third of the major American sports, is that right? Decidedly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Football, baseball, the NBA. Yeah. Had there not been a Stalinist kind of a leader, right?

who knew where the bodies were buried, do you think that the profile... Larry O'Brien, I don't think, was burying nearly as many people, allegedly. Yeah. Do you think that, like, that's what it required? Well, I think the big difference of the NBA right now is that Adam Silver, and this is sort of like everything, where there's, like, a lot of money on the table if you want it. Yeah.

And it's in the Middle East, it's crypto, it's gambling. Uh-huh. Sh-points, yeah. All of it, all of it. Like crypto.com arena. You know, like all these naming rights. Yeah. FTX was on the roof of the Miami Heats building.

It also sponsored the MLB playoffs, right? The MLB umpires had FTX on their chest protectors as well. You know, I was up for a role to play Sam Bangman-Fried. In what? A biopic. I didn't sign an NDA, did I? No. Did you audition?

I worked really hard. Yeah, I auditioned. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so how did you prepare to play SBA? I worked so hard. I knew a guy at Jane Street that SBF was was his intern

when he was there like as a college intern I like worked really hard on it and I was so nervous and then the funny thing is like you're a auditioning to play one of the ugliest guys of all time right so that's that's a

in and of itself hilarious and then I got to the it was in person which they don't do anymore post-COVID most of it is you're taping for... When was this? This was a couple years ago. I guess this was two years ago, maybe.

I don't know what happened with Philip Seymour Hoffman's son, but then I think he dropped out. So, I don't know, they could hit me up, whatever. They called up Rich Paul and they said, do you have anybody in your stable? They said my body was too buff to play. There wasn't dumpy enough.

Can you unbreak your cheekbones? Actually, it was beyond parody, because the, I don't know if you've seen SBF's real life partner, but she was, you know, she was, I would say she's probably, you know, not the best. But they got this, the actress was already cast, and she was gorgeous.

It was like, so funny. But I get there, I see all these other actors, and, like, most of them look like me, and I'm like, my adrenaline's pumping, and I'm being super obnoxious, and, like, we're sitting there, and they're silent, like, nervous actors. And like for me, I don't care about acting.

I'm like, you just know the words, you say the crap. And then, you know, whatever. And so I'm like, oh, it's pretty funny. We all look kind of similar. And they're like, ha, ha, ha. And then one of them was like, are you, I love the show. And I was like, that's right, you fucking actors. Like, you know, I'm from a YouTube Jewish style long form.

Talk. Yes, that's right. You know, who are you? And I'm assuming they're like students at Tisch or something, right? Like not, in my mind, they're like, these are some schmucks. And so they all go in for the audition And it's just me and one other guy And I'm like really just Just extra obnoxious

And I'm like And I look at him and I'm like hey Like uh You like you do this kind of thing a lot And he's like yeah Sometimes I was like have you ever Like been the main guy

Before in a movie And he's like the main guy And I was like you know Like the oh yeah Yeah the lead And he's like yeah But you wouldn't have a see my face.

And I was like, oh, cartoons? And he's like, no, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, the Planet of the Apes movie that's in theaters everywhere right now. I'm the lead in the new one. And I'm like, oh, shit. And I'm like, well, this guy doesn't look Jewish. Then it dawns on me.

I'm like, he can play a fucking ape. This guy can do anything. I'm screwed. I thought that they were like, nobody's. Yeah. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, these guys are all probably very successful. that ape had range, man.

Yeah. That ape really had range. Yeah. Do you remember what any of the lines were from what you prepared? The casting lady was like a serious, like, she, like, cast, like, Succession and Friends and stuff. I'm sure. And everyone's like, she's made people cry. They're like, you know, and I'm like, but they're not even in the movie.

They're like, she's, you better get ready. And she was really nice. And then I talked to her for a while about it. And I was like, first of all, like, where is this monologue happening in the movie? She's like, oh, like, that's a great question because I read the full script. I'm like, it doesn't, I didn't see it anywhere. And she was like, you know,

we had this written for the audition. And I was like, yeah, but the character changes throughout the movie. So it's like, at what point, like, is this indicating, like, you know? And she was like, yeah, no one's asked that question. So that was, I guess, good. But everyone, I guess, yeah,

I was in there much longer than everyone else. Probably because I was being annoying. Because you started podcasting. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, I talked to the guy that was his boss at Jane Street, actually. And she's like, oh, you took this very seriously. I was like, you know, I was like, how long is this going to take? Because, like, is this going to take? She's like, yeah, it'll be in like China and like all over the world.

And I was like, it would have been so funny if I got cast one time for one movie and played the lead and was just the worst. actor of all time ever, and then just never acted again. I think that would have actually been really awesome, but I don't know if they're making this movie. I don't know if I'm just gossiping about things this entire episode that I'm going to get in trouble for. You're a scoop trooper.

I am looking this up, and it does, I mean, there's plenty reported about who they get for, who they recast after Cooper Hoffman. Oh, boy. So did Lena Dunham wrote the script, the adaptation? No. is someone Zoller. Are there multiple projects? Oh, so I...

So this was like the Ashton Coucher Steve Jobs movie. And not the Michael Fastbender one. I think this is the same one. I mean... Ah. Maybe... Okay, so there's a Netflix series. Is it an Apple 824 movie?

It's for a feature. Yeah. Yeah, the... It says Alina Dunham as of... Oh, that's why I didn't get it. I love you, and I'd love you. to come on the show and we were very immature boys on Comtown. And we shouldn't have said after Hillary Clinton lost the election in 2016

that we're looking forward to your public execution. Cut that, please. You're going to leave that in. No, cut that, please. I love girls. Have you seen that show? The show Girls. Yeah.

I watched all of it. She's a genius. I recall it being really good. Yeah. Like, every choice she makes as a storyteller is the right one. Like, she's such a good writer. It's crazy. Yes.

Yes. Also, you wanted her executed. It was just funny because she made that video for Hillary. Hey, hey, guys, it's MC Pantsuit. My hobby is rap music, but my passion defending the nation's baddest grandmother. I'm talking Hillary, Ronham, Clinton. We were young, man. I was 37 years old at the time.

Okay, I have grown. I'm in my 50s now. I did enjoy watching you do stand-up, though. Oh, yeah. Speaking of, like, being out in the world and like... You were at that show. Yeah, a friend Joe Mandy, friend of Pablo Dorey, finds out Joe Mandy's show. Yeah.

What did you think? Pretty much the best stand-up in America? Legitimately, it was really good, man. Yeah, and if you want to see me live, I'm going to be... When's this coming out? Is this coming out on... at this rate not.

Never. No, no. We have nothing. So far. So far. I'll be in Philly this month. I'll be in Portland next month and I'll be in L.A. in May

for the Netflix is a joke fest. Wow. All right. So what do we got? Let's really break a something huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LeBron's retiring.

Shut up. Who told you? I just, hear things. I just hear things. I'm going to get in trouble. You can't put that. No, he's not retiring.

I asked Rich. Yeah? Did you really? Was this the whole setup right now? Yeah, it was. I can't, dude. You're going to get me in huge trouble. You didn't ask Rich that, did you?

No, I didn't ask him. Okay. I said, when is this asshole going to get out of it? But by the way, that has been, since we talked, and I said to you, it kind of feels like LeBron's retiring based on information. There's been lots of signals. Like, they've basically been... Well, they said...

Dvorcing the Lakers. That's what I heard. All I've heard is that he's splitting up the Lakers at the end of the year. That seems likely, yeah. Okay. What do we got? We got nothing today.

That's not true. We had a clavicular... SBF. SBF. Rich Paul Golf Swing. That was cool. That was good. Yeah.

Your dad being proud of you. He is very... proud of me. What was the turning point? Friendship with me. Yeah, no, no. I think I'd just make something that he could watch now. I used to peddle in gross humor

that... Did your dad ever listen to Comtown? Yeah, I would get it grounded every time. I'd be like, I don't even live at home. I would adhere to the grounding, of course. I wouldn't leave my room. I couldn't see my friends that weekend, but, you know,

was, you know, I'm 32, dad. How am I grounded? What did your dad think of how the Richie Torres interview came out? His heart monitor went off a couple times. I think you have an agenda to speak of us. I really didn't have an agenda. I really did. It's your number one copy.

It's not my number one copy. It's just not. It is your... It's not my number one topic. It's not what I saw. Well, I was not elected on this. You don't get elected in the South Bronx. I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

No. but I just don't think you know what you're talking about. We called each other Hitler. That's just dinner. That's our family. Okay? That's fine. But about a week later, he had consumed all of the recap content, and he saw that the Barry Wise people were calling me a capo. And he was like, these people are hypocrites.

You know, to co-op the language of the Shoa, this is exactly what they accused the other side of doing. And it was kind of like, don't f*** with my boy. and yeah it was a very beautiful kind of moment that is that is legitimately heartwarming my pop no my pop is very very proud of the show yeah and you

well we can call him if you want I would love that would you yeah please yeah okay we called coronizer the last time no I mean he'll do a better job on the show today than me he didn't Cornizer didn't pick up we'll call dad I do it a lot

your dad's name is Max yeah Max okay he can tell you all about sports, if you want. Seriously, he was at the Gibson game in 88. He was at the Dodgers. Yeah. That's great.

He was there. I was a baby. Well, ask him what he thinks. I don't know. Can you hear? Yeah. Hi. I'm on with Pablo Torre right now, and he just wanted to say hi because I told him that you liked his

episode about the Clippers. I enjoy all these shows, actually. You watch all of them? I'm not, well, I don't know. I can't, I can't kind of guarantee that, but I've watched a few of them, quite a few of them. Really? Thank you, Max. There's a lot of content we're putting out, a lot of episodes.

I really love that you pay attention to what we do. No, I, thank you. I enjoy your playful attitude towards it, and the guessing games and the secret documents and the closed files. And magnifying glasses that you give them, you know, and you have a whole bunch of Sherlock's on your show. Yes. Sherlock's. Sherlock's.

Okay. There's something in there. We've been like trying to find a nickname for his like, uh, stands, his fan base. Pablo. Yeah, we got to come up with like a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had scoop troop, but we're trying to improve that. And Sherlock's is, it's a good, is a good one.

Scoop Troop, where are you? The supermarket? I'm in the supermarket. I'm checking out. Which is delightful. What do you buy? I'm buying. I bankrupted the family at Costco this morning.

What did you get? Speaking of clubs. I was a little compulsive. Oh, I haven't sent the computer yet. I've noticed that, Adam. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sending it to, I'll send it today. I'll get my got to send it.

Okay, good. Probably, good work, my friend. Terrific. Or by what? There's a lot to write about in the sporting world. Yes, there is. Yes, there is, Max. Do you think LeBron is going to retire?

LeBron is going to If he leaves Lakers and I think he'll go and I think he's going to do something spectacular There's a casino in Vegas that has I don't think it's ever going to get bought but had planned into it a rather spectacular basketball arena

and what I understood was that he had very much an interest in that project and that he would want to finance either a new league or a new team for Vegas. So I don't know if that's just speculation because I live here and everybody thinks that Vegas is the hardest thing from slice cheese. I don't know, but that's what I heard.

Wait, Max, Max, Max, did you know that your son had a meeting with Rich Paul? Did he tell you about this? I heard that. I'm not quite sure what came of it other than... Nothing, pretty much nothing. Mostly this podcast that he's doing with me. You know, my feeling, my feeling is that...

Do you stay clear of that whole... You can report on it because it's dramatic and it's certainly newsworthy. But... So I shouldn't mention that I had that meeting on a podcast. Yes, you can If you want to I'm in the appropriate context Yeah, I think it was appropriate

I think it's totally appropriate I'm on his show I'm on his show right now Yeah, he said that Rich Paul told him that College basketball sucks Am I live or am I Are you You're live to tape

If you want to If you want to I just I told him that that you're a big fan and so he wanted to say hello. Oh, that's terrific. Well, lovely meeting you

this way. Wait, Max, Max, I wanted to say that Adam told me something very sweet, which is that despite years of him trying to radicalize you into a member of the dirtbag left, you finally saw something about the Democratic Party that we exposed

here on Pablo Torre finds out. I love that we were able to do something in terms of your political evolution that your son Adam, who is once again the John Stewart of our generation, was not able to do. I think there's an element of fantasy. Oh, stop it. Oh, stop it.

To that. This celebrity and besmirching my family name in public, I will give him that. I'm not besmirching anything. I'm come on, man. You want to know just how for Kukta Chai am at the moment? What?

What? I'm standing in front of the lookout thing in a jig, and I can't find my cell phone. Oh, because it's in your hand. Oh, you got to pay for the groceries. That's funny. Oh, that's funny. that's really good. That's funny.

All right, okay. It's terrifying for me. Oh, you had a senior moment, Dad. I definitely had a senior moment. All right, I love you. What did you think of that Super Bowl? Boring, no? I thought it was boring.

Yeah. I did the blue square, Dad, to stop anti-Semitism. I saw that. And by the way, it was politically brilliant because the designers will think, oh, he's finally come home. Yeah, yeah. That's why I want them to think. You all guys will think that, you know,

one for the team, huh? I don't know what team. The Nazis? Okay, I love you, Dad. No. Take care. Knaz, thanks for joining Narc Nation. That's good. That's good. We're still working.

All right. I'm sorry. I think he saved it. This has been Pablo Torre finds out, a Metal Arc Media production. And I'll talk to you next time.