Page 7 - A Privilege And A Curse w/ Natalie Jean

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

This week on Page 7, Jackie and MJ are joined by Natalie Jean, to discuss the tragic loss of Sam Neill, MJ brings up the insanity from Jay-Z's most recent NYC shows, Jackie's spelunking of contact juggling has led them to "The Ocho", and some LPN studio PARKING DRAMA! Then this week's list is "19 Behind-The-Scenes Secrets About ’90s Movies That I Just Learned And Now I Can’t Stop Thinking About Them", the blindz, BIG RANCH is back in Jackie's Snackies @ 1:10:36, and a Tajin coated MJ's minute munchies @ 1:21:42 until @ 1:25:32, plus even more on this week's Page 7!  Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

is the tragic loss of Sam Neal. Stop. Technically, the story of the week is the joyful loss of Lindsay Graham, but on this show, if we're talking about closeted old men, it's going to be John Travolta. Yes, it is. Welcome to page seven, everybody. My name is Jackie Zabrowski.

I'm MJ. And here today with us, we have the fabulous, the bendable, the terrifying, Natalie Jean. Ooh. Yes, yeah, those are the three words out the gate that I would use to describe you. sincerely love it. Right? Yeah. I think that everyone should live in fear of especially a woman of your stature. I think that, you know, honestly, we do talk about your beautiful privilege often because

even though you're not a scary person at all. So step back, Natalie. Your privilege is dominating the discourse over here. Yeah, we're all scared of you and I'm glad that we brought you on their show to finally talk about it. I wish I knew I had that privilege. I've not been utilizing it any way. No, you really could start demanding more things and we would hop too. And I feel like this is something if I had this

kind of privilege, I would be just, I don't know, making people like, jump over that. See if you can. Bet you can't jump over that. Oh, Jackie, there are so many people who would love for you to yell at them. You think so? Yeah, pay you. Jump over that. Did you just jump over it?

Maybe. Write a comment below. YouTube.com slash page seven pod. Did you jump over that? We are on YouTube. And to be fair, Natalie, we also talk about how being beautiful is a curse as well. It is. It's a privilege and a curse. So we're sorry for you. Oh, thank you. Also for what you've had to go through. And so, I'm, I'm, I'm, the level of attractive that I always refer to myself as the song from Flight of the Concords, part-time model. Oh, never going to be able to be a full-time model, but...

Part-time. And it doesn't have to know which part of you is the one that's part-time being in front of the photogues, huh? Just the knees. I'm just a knee model, didn't you know? I mean, knees are, you know, there's a lot that can go wrong there. And if you have good knees, I say, put them on stage. You're right, no matter what, their age. And I would say maybe they're into my knees.

My knees have started crickle-crackly. Crickle, crickle, crackle, and some people say that's cartilage, and that's not good for you. And I say, you know, it's not good for me? I think I have the parasite. I'm going to say it. I think I've got the parasite.

I think I have it. I don't know if it's just mental. I'm worried that I have the parasite. Are you having explosive diarrhea? Yeah. Oh. That's the, that's the main. Asked and answered.

Yeah. I was also trying to comfort Jackie. Like, you know, it's, it's, It's not that bad a parasite ultimately, and she cut me off. It's just, I've been, I've been shitting nonstop. And once you're in that situation, you don't want someone to tell you that it's not that bad a parasite. I was trying to provide comfort, and I think I stepped in it, if you will.

Oh, you stepped in it, and it's everywhere. Because it is, oh, my God, it's bursting through the gates. You don't seem sick. Thank you. You look healthy. I don't I look thin, though. It's because of all the diarrhea. like an old-fashioned tapeworm.

Honestly, it kind of makes me feel that way. Honestly, when you're on parasite, you can eat whatever you want, and it just goes right through you. G.L. Parasite 1? Yes. Yes, please. GEL Parasite 1. Go to your grocery store, start licking the lettuces. They can't stop you.

Honestly, they're going to thank you because somebody's got to get the parasites off of all these lettuces, and the FDA's not going to do it. Pretty sure it's a felony. To lick the lettuce? Yes. Really? Like, because it's like a biohazard? Yes. There's already shit on the lettuce.

Who cares if you lick it? Thank you. I think that it was. The crime has been committed already. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's at least been a couple TikTokers doing pranks where they film themselves licking produce and then they go to jail for it. Oh. Do you imagine them and be like, what are you doing?

No, don't. Wait, I was just looking at the lettuce. And they're like, precisely, but wait, I was just looking at the ones. But what about the clicks? The clicks I got. The clicks were the licks. I do it all for the licks. Also, there was a TikToker famously who would go lick toilet seats for abuse.

Did that? Is he the head of our? Yeah, he's probably. It's RFKG. He was experimenting so that we could learn more, everybody. Building up the immunity. Yeah. Oh, he's definitely looked at toilet.

Oh, with vigor. I just, I can't escape the, the parasite. I'm just, I'm welcoming it at this point. If you're coming for bag salads and fresh fruit, that is, you're coming for the adults in my family and the kids in my family. And like, you know, I just, I, I, I don't want it, but I truly can't avoid it. It's, it's not that uncommon, right? I think it's widespread now, but I think that happens every year, right? Doesn't it?

I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah, shit to the human shit on the food. Yeah. But we're just not tracking it now because a man who kills bears for fun and is in charge of the city. Public health apparatus. Sometimes you got to slap a big old bear on top of your car.

You got to roar it all about. And then drop it off in Central Park. I mean, it's got to find its way back to its family at some point. And you know who would hate that? Sam Neal, because he was a naturalist. And he was an environmentalist. And he's such a nice old man who loved Australia and New Zealand. I'm sad for the Sam Neal.

I, of course, and it really was, it was one of those that was like, he's not even that old. And then I realized, oh, my God, I'm getting older. Sure, but he really wasn't, like, an elderly man. He was in his 70s, right? Yeah. And still quite fine, if I may say. Oh, yeah. There's pictures of him from, like, a month ago, and he looked, he could get it.

Like, people in their 70s are, they're, are, They're able to just like, they're human. They're just like adults that have full functioning body still. Of course, honestly, it was really crazy because over the weekend we met Christopher Lloyd, who I also, I was like, at first, I was like, this is crazy that he get like, that he still goes to cons to meet people. He's there for 12 hours signing things all day. And I was just like, and it was expensive. It was literally 120 for the autograph.

Yeah, sure. $120 extra for a selfie, an extra $200 for a picture to be taken of you. But here's the thing. He's 87 years old. He knows his work. Honestly, get it. I really, I was, we were so excited because Jeff just designed a fester piece that is done with UV reactive light. So the light bulb also like glows in his mouth like on this big headpiece.

And Christopher Lloyd signed it. And I am, I was just over the moon. He also like took his time. signed like it was like an old school signature and it just was such a cool such a cool interaction and part of me was like I hope he doesn't need to do this and I hope that he wants to do this. Yeah, I hope so. He did seem like he was having a good time talking to everybody but also I will throw it out there. Brad Durf was also there and he did look miserable. But there were like people were waiting in like six hour lines to talk to him. So yeah. Oh,

Yeah, Braddwell, Chuckie. I mean, Brad Dorrie. I also, doctor from, you know, from, God, I was to say Westwood. Well, is he, is he, does he have a bunch of- Deadwood. I was thinking West Wing. I just want to say West Wing. Yeah.

West Wing, yes, Deadwood. Does he have a trail of, like, snail trail? Children that he has to pay for. Christopher Lloyd? No. Brad Dorff. Well, he's got Fiona Dorff, who's on the pit.

And she was also there with him, which I thought was a lot of fun. That's cute. That it was cool that you could meet Fiona and Braddorf at the same time. I only bring that up because when I used to be working the horror conventions a lot, some of those horror gentlemen came because it seemed like they had a lot of like child and alimony sort of bills to pay. Yeah, yeah. And so they would come make the money on the.

Sorry, because they had to. And I'm not saying that's what's happening. I hope that, and I know that that's not the case with Christopher Lloyd because I don't think so, right? We looked it up and it was crazy because it was like, I don't think I know anything about Christopher Lloyd's personal life. And we looked it up. He's been married five times with no children. And all I could think of was if he were an older, not to be like this, but if he were an older female actress, people would just be like, oh my God, he did nothing with his life. How did he just keep throwing your right?

I just feel maybe it's because of the Liza Minnelli that we're currently listened to. Jay and I are currently listening to the Liza Minnelli memoir. Check it out at the end of August. We're going to be doing a back-to-back celebrities into the Liza Minnelli memoir because it's insane. Kids, wait till you hear this. I'm obsessed with her. We've just been talking like this to each other. Natalie.

We've just in voice notes for each other in the Liza voice. I am a big in shit. I love it. But a very interesting life. And she does begin the book by saying, everyone I ever married is gay. was a gay man. What a way to bring me into a story. Actually,

not wrong with that. Does Lise Me Live Kids? I don't think so. I don't think so. That's a big gufaha. It's led the exact life she wants to lead, you know? Huge gufaha. Now, you were bringing up dudes at cons,

and I really wanted to bring up Robert Patrick, all right? Because Robert Patrick Terminator, if you've seen, Robert Patrick has been in so many movies. like he's the father in Peacemaker 2, Tulsa King. Is he X-Files? Yes, the villain? Yes.

Okay, okay. And he was like having a blast at the con. He was talking to everybody, whether you're in his line or not. He was just obviously having a blast. Seems like a really chill guy. Everyone was genuinely having a good time with him. Jeff went into the bathroom to go take a leak. and he was like, as I was at the urinal,

Robert Patrick came into the bathroom and he was going, What's up, boys? What's up, boys? Oh, boys. It's a great day. Oh, yeah. Having a good day, boys. Oh, yeah.

Got to get it out. Got to get it out. And just kind of doing that. And Jeff said, hell yeah, big dog. It's like, yeah, big dog. Big dog's in the house. And then this other guy said, Agent Dogget's in the house because Agent Doggett is his name in X-Files.

And then he went, oh, yeah, Agent Doggett's in the house. Agent Doggett's in the house. It's taking a piss. And then he pissed in silence. And it was, Jeff said it was so funny to watch him just, and then Agent Dogg, it's taking a piss. And that's, is that against, is that against urinal etiquette? I thought you weren't supposed to acknowledge each other.

I think if you're Robert Patrick, I think it doesn't matter. I think that everyone, but also, because if you think about it, what do you do if you're a celebrity and you have to go use the public bathroom that everybody else is using, you may as well make it fun, right? Gideon peed next to Bill de Blasio once, which was a big... Big deal. Because he's so tall, you know, you're going to get pissed on if you peeed next to him. No, it was just... I think they chatted, because how can you not comment on like a giant

mayoral candidate? This was before he was even mayor, it was like 2013, but it was a big claim to fame for a while. For mayoral fist. I think that you... I think that the urinal etiquette goes out the window. if you're in a celebrity situation, although that's probably up to each celebrity. I think the celebrity has to initiate, maybe. Can I?

Oh, go on record. It's saying that it's really bizarre that urinals still exist where everyone has just accepted that you just pull your penis out in front of strangers still. I think that we as a society, like in America, need to decide whether it's, like, whether your genitals are shameful or whether they're not. Because I feel like everything tells us, oh, be ashamed, oh, be ashamed. You can't even, you know, on socials, you can't even say the word penis or vagina as if they are bad words. So then you're right.

Why do they still just let penis havers just have their penises dangling all abouts? It's weird. I guess it doesn't dangle all abouts. It's just in their hand, but we're never, I don't know. I'm not looking at it. Do you think that this is a holdover? This is just a question for everyone in the room. Do you think this is a holdover for the room?

Okay. for the closetedness of people and feeling like this is a chance for the closeted masculine man to offer it. I love this, but I think it's actually just the lazy if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think it's just one of those, got a place to piss. That's all I need. I feel like that's really it. Yeah. I assume.

I think it's a bare minimum situation. Like we just have a trough to piss in and why would we upgrade? They're straight up our still pissed troughs. some of the Pittsburgh bars from coal mining days because after they would get off of work, they would come get shit-faced off of the 50 cents they made that day.

And they would just openly piss under the bar and it would just have a trough that would lead it out to the street. And you're not supposed to pissing them, but they're still in some of the bars. And how do you not? Natalie showed this to us when we were in Pittsburgh and yeah, I am going to call it that

sorry Pittsburgh, sorry Yinsers out there. But how do you not? If I had a dangly piss hose and I saw a drain on the floor that I knew used to be for my hose to be evacuated, how do you stop yourself? I imagine it happens still quite a bit. Adam? Yeah. Adam says he does it all the time.

I'm reading his lips. He says, I do it all the time is what he just mouthed at me. Wow. And that's what I mean, when there's a drain and. the floor, try to stop me from urinating in it. Oh, squatting over it. Now, yeah, yeah. We have been talking, uh, for unfortunately several episodes about the conversation away from urination. I don't. Believe it or not, I'm not. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I would never. But I am connecting it to something that we have talked about on the show several times before,

which is a close cousin of urination, which is poop. And we've been talking about the concerts and the shitting. And I'm just wondering. And to bring in a big story of this week here in New York was Jay Z's Yankee Stadium shows. He did three nights. And I have several close friends who were there. And I was watching via their Instagram stories. And I was like, ooh, this looks fun. Ooh, this looks fun.

Because this is a huge concert. It's not just a JZ concert. It's huge concert. And I think my understanding, according to the blinds. I mean, it's just a JZ concert. He just brought out a bunch of crazy. I mean, yeah, there was a lot of great guests the first two nights, too. I think it also started off really expensive.

And then I think like there was like kind of a way to get like less expensive tickets. And so, yeah, so I had some friends who were there posting videos the first night, the second night. I was like, this is so cool. You know, and I've no love for the Yankees, but like very cool for the Bronx to have this gigantic, massive show. And then night three. So the doors open at 7 p.m. And people are, and I always say Twitter. I realize on the show, I'm not on Twitter anymore.

I know it's not Twitter anymore. When I say somebody tweeted something, I'm usually talking about any various form of social posting. And so people are posting. Someone did recently call you out of like get off of X. I was like, I thought MJ wasn't on X. I'm not on X. It's too sad. It's like a graveyard where my friends all used to be.

You just use the old word for it. You just keep saying tweet. To me it's all a tweet. Yeah, so that's the boomer in me. Okay, I'm not going to change my language. But people are posting what's happening here on the third night of the Jay-Z show. What's happening? What's happening?

Why? And there's people posting videos of people who are breaking the barricades and making it it past security and run it in. And so the door is at seven. He takes the stage, I believe, at 1220. 12. So we're talking five hours and 20 minutes later. Well, apparently, because the crowds were really.

rushing security and many, many people with this is what they say, that many, many people without tickets were pushing past through security. Like it was a complete security breach. And so they had to get it all under control before they could let the show begin. And unfortunately, you're right, that is what they say. But also, unfortunately, I bet if they had a bunch of people that got in that didn't go through metal detectors or things like that, I imagine that. is a huge security breach and that they probably couldn't put the show on. We saw at that festival what happened when you let people come in from, what's his name, Kylie's baby daddy?

Oh, Travis. When he told people to Russian, it killed people died. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Although I got to say that I thought the videos of people breaching the barricades at this concert were kind of badass.

It just seemed very like, like, yay, make it the people's concert. I totally get that. I don't disagree. But, yeah, I mean, there is just like. the risk of like stampedes and shit. Yeah, and other people's security. And also now, would you, I know we were talking about this before the show, would you stay? Let's say you show up at 730.

Because here's the thing, too. The show starts at 1220. It ended at 250. So you waited all that time and you did get two and a half hours of show. So you do get a great show that starts real late. But would you now? Now, my problem is sometimes I think I get so angry and so upset and or so anxious that I feel that a situation like this would make me spiral so fast that I wouldn't have a good time and I would end up leaving and then being so mad at myself when I knew that the concert still went on. And in fact, many people were posting about how irate they were to have left at midnight not knowing.

And this also was bringing back that was at Nick's game four when they were losing up until the last minute of the game. And some people left MSG because they were like, this is sad. I don't want to be here when they lose. And then they won in the last minute. But also, I really feel like a big part of this is that people, diehard JZ fans are like 40. You know, like, they are like, they're not, yeah, sure. My friends who were there are around my age.

And, you know, and they, and so, but also diehard JZ fans, they're like, I'm not going to miss this. Like, this was a huge deal. And in addition to all, yeah, it was Rihanna's first performance since 2004. Was she a surprise guest? I believe so. I think that Rihanna was a surprise. Yeah. And then, yeah, a bunch of other, I'm neither Jackie or I are really big hip hop people, needless to say.

But there was like, you know, Farrell, Usher, but also like Jada Kiss and just like a bunch of like beloved, beloved hip hop, you know, legends there. And so the people who stayed had like the best night of their life, but you had to put in about five and a half hours. Many hours for it. Gail King was there and she stayed. Stayed. And then went straight to her CBS morning show like didn't sleep. Go out of that.

That is how you do it. But that's one where you are going to probably want them to be wear a dipe because you're waiting for five and a half hours. Was it standing room? It was a Yankee Stadium. So I don't know. Maybe people were sitting. I'm not sure. I would hope that you could go to the bathroom during that time.

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure that you can. Or maybe not. Maybe they were like, mm-mm. It's an all-dipe zone. Can you imagine just everyone's sitting their pants saying? Stadium. Collectively, I think that would actually be like an environmental hazard.

Yeah, I thought it was just all the drunk pictures that did that. Wow, it's also for the fans too. My main concern would be, you know what it's like when you do a late comedy show. The early show is pretty together. The late show, everyone's belligered. So six hours of that. What was the crowd like at that point? Oh, my God.

I mean, it's a good question. I think everyone was just really happy. I don't know. like maybe it's just because the videos I'm getting were from the people who like actually like just that video like this and they were just like this is so amazing this is so good so I think that everyone I think it was just like a bunch of like people in our generation seeing like somebody whose albums they have worshipped for decades being really happy but I don't know that I don't know if it was like a crazy situation crowdwise aside from the fact that everyone I mean that there was people reaching the barricades and that um Everyone was so upset that it was taking so long. But I think that my impression was that once the music started, the vibes were repaired because everyone was like, fucking Beyonce. This is amazing. That was my impression.

But, you know, if any of you listeners were there or viewers were there, please let us know. Let us know. And please let us know how many years you've been watching the Ocho for. my mind was blown over the weekend, all right? Because, yeah, maybe last week I had a weird little obsession with contact juggling. Yes, the kind of juggling that David Bowie does, Jared, Jarrett does in Labyrinth, even though we all know that Jarrett did not, like David Bowie did not do that. He actually was his head on a contact juggler's body. So that's what that, like the bowl, illusion, the illusion. I know, right? So it's not, it's not. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's,

It's actually something called... That's called contact juggling. And I was going down quite a worm time, and a lot of us could of watching a lot of guys that seem like they read the game and then learned how to do contact juggling. They definitely looked like... I'm going to say contact jugglers are in the same vicinity as a magician, and I am saying that in a positive way. Without judgment?

Without judgment. I would put them more in the same vicinity as the guys who have the devil sticks. Yeah, I love the devil sticks, guys. Yes. I think there's something about, I think they think that like contact, eye contact and like looking down the barrel. Like there's something. Oh, like sort of a Chris Angel vibe? It's Chris Angel vibes.

Or Job. Job. From arrested all this. Exactly. That's the kind of vibes that contact juggling kind of bigats. But I was talking about context. contact juggling with our friend James. And then he thought, he's like, wait, combat juggling.

And I was like, contact juggling. And he said, combat juggling. And I said, no, contact juggling. It was like, combat juggling is not a thing. And he's like, that's not true. Contact juggling is not a thing. And it's not true. That is.

And it really was a who's on for a situation. And he and I, surprise, we're both right. Combat juggling is also a competition where there are groups of three people that are actively juggling, right? They're like juggling about to the room. And then the other people are also juggling and they like throw their pin at them or like they hit them and they try to like get them off

while also juggling. While maintaining the juggle, they have to like attack each other but then maintain the juggle, but then attack each other, but then maintain the juggle. It's cool. Cool.

It's very cool. And then James is like, oh, you've never heard of the Ocho. And I said, are you talking about the movie Dodge Ball? And he said, weirdly enough, yes. Because usually when I bring up references like that, the answer is 100% no.

But this time, it was yes. And apparently ESPN, 10 years ago, I live in a ballless zone, I guess, or a combat juggling-less zone. They put together, the Ocho is the competition in the movie Dodge Ball. They essentially put together their own stupid sports competition that happens every August. They call it the Ocho.

This all, it's coming, it's going to be in a couple of weeks. There's things like combat juggling as well as slippery stairs, which I watched. Is that the one you want to sign up for? MJ, that's yours? Yeah, I'll do slippery stairs. Yeah, I call slippery stairs. The stairs are slippery and you got to get up the stairs. It makes me think of like adult, do you have it?

Guts. Like, it's very guts-esque. Yeah. Which one might call American Gladiators, but it's dumber than American Gladiators. Even dumber because there's a mullet championship. There's something called Tech Bowl, which is a fusion of soccer and table tennis. Oh, man. Jeff's going to be an Ocho widow soon, huh?

He's going to lose me to eight. And I say, sorry, Jackie eight, nine, and she's all full. I love if you become a, like, a groupie for the Ocho community. Honestly, it's either Ocho or the Savannah Bananas. And everybody keeps telling me about the Savannah Bananas, and the Savannah Bananas are the Harlem Globe Trotters of the baseball world. I like the Savannah bananas. What worlds have you been following?

I have to take a phone call. I'll be right back. Whoa. Everybody knows that. MJ, well, MJ just walked away. MJ, when the Knicks happening was happening, MJ was like, I've always loved basketball, which is very funny because we've been doing the show for 15 years, and they've never said the word basketball to me. But I supported them because we're not here to judge, all right?

We're here to ball encourage. You're not here to judge? No, I did. I judge. I judge them very harshly. And they understood. And they said, I'm getting wrapped up in the city. And that I understand more than anything.

Sure. And people do know that the only way in which I will accept a conversation about a ball is if it's something like this, like chase tag. It's just straight up competitive tag. I fully support, even though some of those things make me want to dive of cringe. Embrace it And I think that anything that Adults can do to find friendship Right and a joy

Exactly and I feel like these are Especially on ESPN And I don't know if ESPN is evil But I think I just decided it Like I just assumed it was like Oh it's sports but evil It's like the evil overlords of sports They're all bad

Everyone is bad I don't know I genuinely honestly Leave us a comment below. Let us know. Is ESPN bad? MJ you're a ballast, you know. Do I know if ESPN is bad?

Yes. I just always assume they're like red pillages and people, you know. I mean, to the extent that any like network is, yeah, I don't, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, unqualified. I'm going to, I'm, somebody give us this idea. Are they good or are they bad? Yeah, is it good? Isn't they bad?

And there's nothing else. No. And honestly, I had. quite an experience with a bad driver yesterday that I wanted to bring up, and mostly because I wanted to bring it up, because I'm not going to name drop, I'm going to say the C-list celebrity that did the poor parking job. I had a mental breakdown in our studio parking lot yesterday. Even just because calling them C-list is like a hater move, and I know who it is, and we're not going to say it. Yeah. And I, so we have a little parking lot and there is an exit to the parking lot. There's one exit to the parking lot. And there were spaces, there were like a couple spaces open in our lot. And when I went to go pull out, there was a big Lexus SUV that was literally parked right in front of, I'm going to post on my Insta and Last Pod network. I need you guys to see that the car.

was parked right in the middle. Also, with plenty of space, they literally could have moved up and we could have been able to, like, get around them. There was no way in or out of the studio parking lot as well as the entire across the street was completely open. There were spaces everywhere else.

It was almost as if she had chosen to park in front of the exit of our studio parking. But she wasn't here. No. So what was she there for? She was at a studio nearby. And so I, because I have anger problems, I turned around and I thought it was maybe somebody

either playing a joke in here or somebody. And so I came in and I started yelling, I'm looking for a culprit, car parking culprit. Who's the idiot that parked like an idiot? And I'm screaming it as I'm going up and then Kelly, of course, comes out. And it's like, hey, what's going on? And I was just like, oh, you want to see what's going on? You want to see what's going on? And so I bring Kelly outside.

And she's like, hey, how about you go back inside as I'm screaming at the? I was like, I will bash my car into the. I was like, now I'm late for my meetings. And if I'm late for this meeting, I'm going to be late for the next meeting. And if I can't work late, you can't work late. And if you can't work late, I can't work late. And that is Scrooge. That is a line from Scrooge.

but it made me feel like that. And I, nothing makes me feel more like Henry than when I'm having an absolute meltdown. And especially because here's the thing, I am funny when I'm having a meltdown. So it was fun. Like I was making jokes. But I was an animal version of myself.

And so long story short, Kelly goes to some of the other studios around, finds a person, they send out, I guess, like either her assistant or someone that works at the studio, to check to make sure they were right that she was parked wrong. And then the one, and I said, so I was like, did you park like this? And I, because of course, at this point, all the studios outside. And so this poor, it was an assistant person. And it was like, did you park like this?

And she was like, no, I just needed to show whoever parked like this to show them that they shouldn't have parked like this. And I was like, are they going to come out and move their car? And so then eventually this woman who is, I'm going to say a C list on an on an on an improvised comedy that's been rebooted. She comes out and and she is like not even an apology. And I said, you know that's not a space, right? And she just went, I had to get inside. And it was like, yeah, we all have things to do. That's not a parking space.

And I, and she just like jumps in the car real fast. and it pulls out really fast. But he was just so obviously not a parking space and so obviously you only care about yourself and you don't think about other people that it made me have... She's not here. I flipped out.

I know. You're becoming Larry David. I'm becoming Larry David. Yes, and I'm coughing the pubic hair out of my mouth. and it's just, it was a lot. Well, he needs a new Cheryl Hines, so get in there. I was going to say, now I just saw a headline that was like, oh, now that the thing with Olivia Nutsi is over,

Cheryl Hines is back happily together with RFK Jr. She was never not. She's been riding, getting run, train upon, and right now I'm going to get mad. She piss me off. Yeah, Natalie, yeah, Natalie, tell her, tell him about the candles, Natalie. Tell them that she sells the candles, Natalie. Not anymore.

She doesn't anymore, huh? Nope. She gave up all of it. of herself, every single version of herself, every friend, every business she had to support a vile, stupid man who humiliates her on a daily basis. But anyway, let me just, can I clarify with this lovely woman that you're talking about, she was blocking the entrance to the parking. Completely, okay, okay, fully, fully completely blocking the entrance you could not get in or out. And did she, was she being mad when she came up or was she trying to be cute about it?

She was trying to be cute about it. But she didn't like say sorry. Nope. Interesting. And you could tell that she was very much like, because she, like, she was flustered. Uh-huh. Because at that point, there was about 10 of us. Yeah. Kind of making jokes. Yeah. About the barking job. Not surrounding the car. This is from a, from a far, from a far. Okay, from a far. We were making, we're making some jokes. I wasn't screaming by the time that she got out there. Like I had, you know, I did, I mean, I did say, did you think this was a spot? I mean, I did say it aggressively.

Right. But this is, I, it was kind of nice. I haven't gotten that angry for something that really didn't, that was kind of inconsequential. Right. In a really long time. It did prevent a bunch of people going to work. Yes. And it was annoying.

And then I found out from other people. I was like, oh, yeah, I saw that. And so I just parked up the street. And I was like, why are we parking up the street? Sometimes you have to yell for a community. Yeah. Sometimes you got to yell and the thrill of releasing your anger, you just, you get high off of your own supply.

And then you're like, I just, I have to keep yelling. And now I'm mad about the show that you were on, even though it was a good show, you know. And then it just, it fuels itself. And, you know, I feel like cars do this to us as well. It's, yeah, it's also, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I think that there's a fun element. The movie. Lightning McQueen. That if the ultra wealthy, because this person is absolutely stacked with cash, they had multiple very successful programs. It's fun to yell at them when you get to go, ha, ha, I get to show you, you did something wrong. Yeah. But also what, she's going to a studio where they don't even have their own parking lot. Wow.

Sounds like they're kind of lame. Yeah, I will say I referenced Kathy Bates and fried green tomatoes multiple times while I was in the parking lot and just, man. Man, you should have rammed it. God. It's got us a lot of attention in the media, you know? The real problem is I was really at fault. And it was nice because there was a rational person in the studio. Thank God.

Like Henry wasn't he? Like nobody was here that was going to froth me up. It was literally just the people that were like, hey, Jackie, take a breath. It's okay. It's okay. It's so sad that we do have employees who'd help you do breathing. Not just you, but anyone here do breathing exercises. We're all breathing.

It's good. I think we all, there's a lot that we all have to breathe through, you know? Yeah, millennials just discovered breathing like two years ago. So we're all still learning the skills, you know. Don't hold this against us. Just hold the list against us. Oh, who's on the list? Me, got to have that list.

I thought about you, Natalie, because these are behind-the-scenes secrets about 90s movies that I just learned. I can't stop thinking about it. Oh, I can't stop thinking about it. Did you know that it turns out the hacky-sac thing is mostly true about Freddie Prince Jr., but are they getting a divorce? Freddie Prince Jr. initially planned to perform the routine himself. in she's all that and even had a trainer to help him prepare but by the day of the shoot

he was still not good enough Yeah that was a body double 100% They brought in a stunt double He tried okay I mean good for him But it does we were just talking about devil stick guys You know and I just feel like if Freddie Prince had devoted himself He could have because he could have

But it sounds like he had a lot going on I think he was too busy having sex with a bunch of I mean he wasn't married yet to her wasn't? I think he was I think he was. Oh, wow. By that time? I know they got married young.

Really young. And I think that it's like, when did they meet? What was the movie? Was it Scooby-Doo? They didn't meet on Scooby-Dood. They didn't they? They did. Okay.

Scooby-Doo is before she's all that. After. After. Because I know she does a cameo in She's All That. She doesn't have a line or anything. She was there hanging out with him. Personal life. You will see her in the cafeteria.

scene with no lines. Okay. They married in 2002 and they met on, I know what you did last summer. I know what you did last summer. I know what you did last summer. And that made, that,

sexy place to me. It is a sexy place to be. It is a more boring story than you remember, unfortunately. It's only one of those. I know, you keep telling me that it's not a sexy movie, but it was like it lower, it's still in my mind.

It's like I'm still 12 and like, wanting to see that horny movie, but you say that's cruel intentions, which we are watching later this summer for page seven. We are watching. And now MJ's never seen it. And now MJ, like now MJ, that's the actual sexy movie. Oh, yeah. That's what Jackie says.

You guys are team cruel intentions and anti. I know what you did last summer. I'm not anti. I just have never connected. But also, I can see as a 12-year-old, why? Because it's just like sexy older teenagers. I loved it when I was young, but I never watched it. erotic. No, and I found Jennifer Love

Hewitt erotic. I feel like anytime she was in anything, I was like well, I think they might have highlighted certain elements of her on purpose a lot. Like her knees, bringing the knee models back in. Everybody. Do you have your knees? Get your knees up. Everybody. And her very uncharacteristic to most people's bulging, massive eyes. Eyes. Oh my God, just like M. Night Shyamalan, who partially wrote the movie, she's all that. Producer Jack Lennar said, while R. Lee Fleming wrote the original script, M. Night Shyamalan did an uncredited rewrite on the script and a very good one that got the movie greenlit.

What? He said later it made it deeper. Made the characters rich on. Wait a second. How the fuck did M. Like Shyamalan end up on this? I'm surprised by this. But as somebody who believes very strongly in the goodness of his first one to three movies.

Oh, yeah. Perhaps he used some really good writing skills to make she's all that be a pretty good movie that it is. Oh, I love M. Night Chama La. I mean, you know. Oh, I love me some M. Night Chambal. Give me a lot of his campy movies I really enjoy, like Old. Old. I mean, we showed it to our friends not that long ago who hadn't seen Old.

And afterwards, just like, wow, it really is exactly what you said it was. Yep. Yep. Oh. Oh. But this is, honestly, this was the factoid of why I chose this list. Here's another 90s teen movie fact. Without the existence of Drop Dead Gorgeous, there would be no Gilmore girls.

While working on the movie, producer Gavin Pallone, was particularly drawn to the complex dynamic between the main character, Amber, and her young single mother, Annette. He got the idea to hone in. on a version of that relationship in a TV series and pitch the concept to Amy Sherman Palladino who took the idea and ran with it going on to create Gilmore Girls. That is an interesting story because that is not the story that Amy Sherman Palladino tells.

Whoa, what does she say? She says that, and I have to remember where I even saw her talk about this, but she said that she was pitching really complex ideas And then one day she just said that, like, vomited that concept out. And they were like, yes, that. And she had not thought about it at all. She just, like, said it. So a limit of a controversy here.

Wow. This is quite the controversy. I mean, I love Drop Dead gorgeous. So I actually feel like that makes Gilmore Girls have a cooler origin story. So let's just say, hey. M.J. You're a hater. You're an A. Sherman Palladino hater. I'm not a Gilmore girl's hater, but I, at the time it was on, I was like, that's dumb and I'm not going to watch it. And now I just feel like, am I going to start it watching it alone at 40? The answer might be yes. Maybe if you have like a full mental breakdown. You know? Full mental breakdown or I wait till my kids are old enough to want to watch it with me. And then be like, can we be toxic by their daughters too? I will follow. everywhere. Oh my God, you're going to love watching it with the kids.

When we went to the experience they do over at the WB, or what is it called? What lot is that? I think it's a universal lot. Universal lot in Hollywood. There was so many families there with like very young kids who loved the show with their parents. They watched it with their parents. Because I watched it with my mom. Like we watched, it was very funny that I do think that it's like, man, I was out being a rap scalyon.

And my mom's like, we're just like in Gilmore girls. You're like, yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, I'm just like, Rory. Jerry. Having sex with married men. That's the thing. I can't tell.

Because I haven't seen it, I don't know. I'm over here trying to figure out if my kids are old enough to watch Lay Miz. And I've told them that everyone dies, including the children. Gavroche, yeah. Have you brought up Gavroche? Oh, yes. I have told them there's a dramatic death of a child. Oh, then they can watch Gilmore girls.

Then they can watch Gilmore girls. Yeah. When the pup grows up and then you hear the Stark shot. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they can watch Gilmore girls. Yeah, I mean, they haven't watched the full three and a half hours of layments, but I am introducing it to them as an important text in our family, little by little. But I just wasn't sure, yeah, Gilmore Girls. Because they also, like, now I'm like, what stuff that I like can I make them watch? You know, like a rest of the development is like, I want to do that, but I don't know if that, you know, I just have to, I have to put on my, what's appropriate glasses. I think Gilmore Girls might be a little raunchy for, for them, but... Oh, babe, they ain't nothing raunchy. Especially the first couple seasons. No, it's very wholesome. It's very wholesome.

Okay. As Rory gets older, there's way more sex stuff. Well, because she gets older, but that's, like, it starts off. She's a freshman in high school, so it is, it's not a sexy show. Like, it's more about, like, the town. I have a crush. And it's about, the town is, like, one of the characters of the show. Yes, and it's about all the different.

And I mean, you know, Sukki there, but not Sookie Stackhouse, but another Sookie that I also was in love with played by Melissa McCarthy. And that was a huge reason of why I was like, oh, if Melissa, like if Sookie can get a job as a fat, funny woman, maybe I could someday do that. And so then you could also pass that on to your children and explain to them my trauma of being in a plus size body when I was really young. Yeah. Yeah. Did you explain that to them, MJ, guidance counselor? Yeah. We have conversations like this all the time.

I was a real, I had friends who really liked that genre of show, like Joan of Arcadia, and I was such a dick about it. I was just like, this is dumb. Which I think it's so funny because you were watching musicals and tap dancing videos. So it's not even like you were watching something edgy. You were just watching a different, and I'm going to say it in a beautiful way, nerd thing. Oh, yeah. You're just a different spectrum of nerd. Totally. And like, looking back, Joan of Arcadia, I would watch it right now. Mary Steenbergin is there.

Some other actor whose name is escaping me right now. Oh, wow. You are selling Joan of Arcadia. I will say you pulled that name out. I don't think I've heard of, like, thought of Joan of Arcadia since it was on air. But I do. It was that era of those shows, though. Those shows. It didn't have the staying power of Kilmore Girls. I don't know why, Joan of Arcadia, no one has brought. brought it up except me since 1999. I was thinking of the Ghost Whisperer. I was thinking about Jennifer Love Hewitt's knees in that other show. Yeah, it was the Ghost Whisper. See, when you talk about Jennifer Love Hewitt and what part of her body we're thinking of,

I'm only thinking about her stomach and how I was like, she's on every magazine making me feel like something's wrong with me, right? This is not any hate to her. It's not her fault. Her body looks like that. I was making jokes about her huge knockers is what I was making jokes about. The appeal of the more of the, like, the little. of her body, especially I think for young girls, was like, but she has skinny arms and big boobs. And this thing that does not occur very often in nature.

That's true. Yeah. It's not the only reason that she became popular. I do think she's great. I love her. It's not her fault. But like, that is a big selling point for a young actress, especially in the 90s. It's like skinny arms, big boobs.

I think I was boob blind, even as a kid, because I had never noticed her boobs. I only noticed her. I was getting into the knees. You did go for the knees. I got boob blind. And, I mean, abs were crazy. I mean, just. Well, especially because she was always, like, wearing, like, baby doll tops.

And so you're right, MJ, it would always show the perfectly toned. God, so much pressure. And, yeah, I mean, God knows what she went through on the other side of what people said to her and her management team and, like, directors. Can you fucking imagine what she went through? Being, like, telling her still she wasn't skinny enough. And she's like, but my boobs, big boobs, skinny arms already. And this is what, man, I keep reading about with Topanga, Danielle Fischel on Pod Meets World, and she's just talking about how often she was fat shamed, how often they would try to like,

they're like, oh, well, you're so fat, we got to write it into the show. And she was like that. Yeah, disgusted, truly disgusted, we all were. It's just like, that's so insane. Like one of the most beautiful people on Earth. Yeah. Yeah. And like really a good character because she actually did seem like the,

girl next door and the way that like, like, I had girls who I looked up to who I was like, you're beautiful and kind of normal looking but beautiful. And I love you the most because of that. I feel like Topanga really actually had like she could be your cool older neighbor, you know. Oh, yeah. I was. She was still stunning. She's still as gorgeous as she was as a kid. Yeah. Now, this made me think of you because of the secret garden, Natalie. Mary Lennox. Did you know that. Kate Mabely played many little girls' dream roles as Mary in the Secret Garden, but it was actually her first acting gig, and she kind of stumbled into it.

Apparently, the filmmakers were conducting auditions at her school on a day when it was raining, which meant that the netball match Kate was meant to be playing got cancelled. So she came in and did the audition instead, and she just read a few pages, and she ended up getting the job. and that is the secret garden I feel like is one of those movies. I do I need to rewatch it? I was traumatized by it as a child, but you loved that. Yeah. I was riveted, riveted by that movie.

That movie is gorgeous. It's beautiful to watch still. I know I've seen it to be the secret boy. I wanted to be the sickly little secret boy. You don't put him in the bathtub with the ice. You need to move his legs with electric. What do they do? they like put him in a wheel, like a hamster wheel?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they run them around. They put some fur on them. Yeah, they put a salt, just assault like at the end. And honestly, that's all he needed. Yep. That was one of my early experiences with watching a movie and then pretending I had read the book. I was like, I was like, 10, and I was like, great book. Yeah, totally.

I mean, you know, you got the points. You got all the points there. I didn't want to read the, but I started the book, and I was like, this is boring. I'll just pretend that I know the book. Man, it's a great movie still. We should re-watch it. I think that we need to have a re-watch. And also, of course, led her to her most important role as the little girl in the

Langalears. I know we've brought the Langalears multiple times this week. I know. We have been talking about the Langaleers a lot. She's also in that movie. Yes, she is. And I bet she didn't stumble into that one. I bet it had nothing to do with no knit-ball.

Knitball game that you wanted to pay. Well, when Australian. Yeah. I'm international. Yeah. Last but not least, I, we, Natalie and I wrote a whole monster fucker comedy show that we do at different romanticcy events. A portion of this show, we talk about the movie Casper and we make multiple jokes about the movie Casper. Maybe we make jokes about how now we can't want to bang Devin Sawa, so we have to try to want to bang all of the uncles instead. And that is difficult. As adults, because they are adults. And real, being realistic. But did you know that the WIPstaff Manor, which is the estate used in Casper, was also the iconic estate where the everybody. I did know that. You did know that that's where, because I love that music video and I had no idea.

It was at Wipstaff Manor where they also shot Casper. I think there's actually been a lot shot there. Also, isn't Casper? Like, Casper is 1995. This is like this is a busy, this is also the late 90s. Like I feel like that was a busy time for that. For the Wipstaff Manor. Yeah.

Everybody, Backstreet Boys was what year it was 19-97. That was 97? It sure was. Wow. I thought that was a couple years later at least. That 97. No. Nine and seven music.

Perfect year for pop music. Oh, God. Man, so much. There was like the antithesis of everything about me at the time. I so was, I couldn't believe all of this garbage was on. Just upset with Backstreet Boys, just overall, just hating it. I was just too punk. We were all haters in our different respects.

You know? Yeah. I think a lot of us, this was a part of, I guess it's growing up. Part of it is being like, I am going, we were just talking about it last week. Sina apparently was teaching Hero about not yucking someone's yum. And I do feel that like being not like the other girls definitely made us yuck upon some other yommers out there. And I do feel sad for it. You know, and totally.

And at the time it was out of feeling like an alien in the world I was in. and the kids who were horrible to me were the fans of that music. And so it was probably just going to always happen that I rejected it. I understand. And fuck them. I understand, yeah.

I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad. And I will never feel bad. Good. And I will never feel bad. The other day at the playground. I'm not healed. Sorry, go on.

All-Star came up. I will not process it. No. This is, no, this is fair because I also had it hated pop music around this time, 97 was the year I tried to like it. But then, like, I started to try to like it. But then, yeah, so at the playground, All-Star came up and, like, by Smashmouth.

And another parent said, wow, what a terrible time for music. And I sat, I was frozen because I didn't know what to say, because I wanted to be like, it was a good time. It was good. But I didn't know. But also, yeah, if you're like, like, part of the way we defined ourselves as young people was to be like, I don't like the same things as everybody else. If I was like to be like earnestly to this parent, I love All Star by Smash Mouth.

It was a great time for pop music. I would have loved that though. Wait, can we just discuss this? What do you think of them? I would have gotten, you should have gotten to a fist fight. Yeah, gone ham on it. Yeah, dude. It's a perfect song.

What are you talking about? Just like throw down, you know? Pretend like you're taking off boxing gloves. And the person's like, what are you doing? Why are you doing this? A great time for pop. Music, yeah, I literally froze and I wanted to bring in the bare naked ladies. There were so many things I wanted to say.

I wanted to bring a matchbox 20. Like, what are you talking about? Imagine you started feeling overwhelmed because I feel like then. I'm just like, but, but what about? And then it's just cannot compute, cannot compute. Late 90s was great. Yeah. I know that I said that that was the last one, but I forgot this is the last one because I

truly did not know this. Okay. Did you know that Hook was originally meant to be a musical? No. It was supposed to be a musical right up until filming began. And Stephen Spielberg says, I chickened out after the first week of shooting and took all the songs out. He said it was the biggest paradigm shift I've ever had while directing a movie.

It just didn't seem right for some strange reason. Maybe I didn't feel ready to do a musical. The songs had been composed by John Williams, of course. The lyrics by Leslie Brees. And instrumental versions of some of the songs can still. be heard in the movie since I mean they were already written for it. Isn't that crazy? I did not know that. Yeah. I had no idea. And I love me some. Me too. And you know how I scream about the Rotten Tomatoes score of Hook constantly? Rotten Tomatoes score of Hook? It's devastating.

What do you mean? Oh, not the score, music score. You mean the score on, okay, I got real, talking about the score on Rotten Tomatoes. I thought Rotten Tomatoes was raiding the score of the movie. No, they freaking wish. I mean, I kind of love that people shit on it just because it's... Now it's up to 37%. I'm going to throw it out there. When I first started being annoyed about the rotten tomatoes of hook, it was a 6%. And I need you all to know.

That's crazy. That's crazy. It's got the same rating as Tony Hinchcliffe's comedy special. This is what I'm saying. So I'm going to say, I single-handedly raised it from 6% to 37%. I'm taking this one. This was my win. That's crazy tap.

That is a very competent movie. Even if you don't like it, it is a well-mean movie. Are we at the point where we have the culture is just like broken apart so much that it was like, that used to be a 6% and now we're the total red-toned-clips. It's just gotten so much worse, so much worse shit has come out that they're like, you know what? It's actually not that bad, you know? Wow. I guess some of the movies kind of like age with time people come to appreciate it. them more, but God damn.

It's the reviewer, the critics score is 37% Jackie or the audience? Yeah, the audience score is 70 something. Yeah, the audience score is 76. Okay, okay, okay. It's the 37%. Also, you have to remember, too, this is because movies that were before

Rotten Tomatoes, they oftentimes don't have, like, the proper reviews put into them, so the, so it is skewed. I know that. I'm aware of that, because I will throw it out there, the amount of people that tell me every time I scream about this, and I know. But I I'm proud of those of you that have gone out there and wrote current reviews to get that number up.

It's a good, you know, it's a nice thing to do, to have a hobby. It's nice to have a thing that you do at the end of the day. And writing positive things. Yeah. Writing positive things on the internet. It's positive things. And if you want to write something positive, you can write it below because we know that you're watching this on YouTube. YouTube.com slash page seven pod because you can see our beautiful faces as we scream towards.

And Jackie's knees. Uh, they clicking and clacking. And I said, well, if it's my cartilage, why aren't my knees made out of sharks? It's most likely your Bursa sacks popping. Oh, thank you. Jackie, remember my hot knee? Remember when I had a hot knee?

Oh yeah, you did have hot knee. Was that your Bursa sacks? It was my Bursa. Wait, tell me about Burt. No, don't. You know what, don't. It sounds like they're bursting out of my butt is what. That's what's bursting.

sacks. I got them down there. You don't want them to burst. That's not good. Yeah, it's the parasite. I keep licking all the fruits. Stop licking the fruit. Well, Jackie, I heard you say that that was the end of the list. Yeah, the end of my list. Great timing because I think I'm going. Mine. Items.

Ah, we cannot see them, darling. Sorry, I should be talking like Liza, baby. What's funny about this is that on my end of the recording, you guys have frozen. So I'm the one who's blind. I don't know if you guys can see me. But I am blind to your beautiful presences. Maybe it was my knees. Do you think it was my burst in sacks and my knees? Is that what did it?

Yeah. So it just feels like I'm on like a conference call with you guys right now, which is lovely. Tell us about this. Yeah, it's almost like you're in a debate. Like feel like you're at a podium, okay? Deliver it to us. Yeah. Be the sermon of blind items.

All right. Well, you know that we were going to get some of these blinds from this event. Oh, because I will also throw it out there. There has been some. Yeah, there was a raffle. Yeah, there was, they're starting to get some snark out there about the Taylor Swift wedding. Although, I will say that they have kept it tight because the NDAs must be strong. The NDAs are poised. And it is so like the rumblings of people complaining about it. are so light because those are ironclad NDAs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's been very little that I have seen in the blinds about it.

But I present to you blind number one. For a wedding present, the A-plus Lister singer offered to buy her new husband the annual magazine title, but he declined. He will once again just be one of the other names inside the issue. Sports Illustrated No Sports Sports Sports

Sports Not Not Not sure It does not feature handsome men You guys It features beautiful women What is a magazine

That's I thought Spots Illustrated Usually was guys The swimsuit The swimsuit edition You have the Sports Tuit edition I just don't think

that they like have a feature issue that's like look at all these handsome men. Is it the most sexiest man of the year or whatever? Exactly. Allegedly she offered to buy him the title of people's sexiest man alive for the wedding. That is so pathetic, bro. That is so, I'll buy it for you. Like, I know they're not going to give it to you, so buy it for you. I don't want it. No, they're not going to offer it to me. I don't want it. That's like people go big game hunting by like paying somebody to like put the animal in front of them. You know, because all the of it is so disgusting anyway,

but at least go out there and do your disgusting act if you're going to do it. Those people that are just like, and then they got it and they dragged it over here. No, I put it in the face. It's just like, you're... It's rich people nonsense.

That's so, that's so redact. You know, it's things that we don't understand here on the show. Okay, blind number two. The A-list singer enjoyed the big wedding with multiple hits of MDMA. Of course. Well, how

MDMA. I mean, you got to. You know people are going to be drinking, because I will say. But how do we know which one? Like, there must have been so many singers there. There were. Who do you think is really fun and would be a lot of fun? Charlie, Charlie.

Did we both guess Charlie the same time? Yes, I did. You're in the same field. You're in the same ballpark. No. I don't think Kesha got invited. Well, because she's too cool. I know.

But you're closer with Charlie, a very current. Sabrina. Yeah. Look at us, Natalie. Yeah. Look at us. How much MDMA could she? She's so tiny.

She's so little. Yeah. She shouldn't be taking. She shouldn't be taking one at a time. I hope she had a blast. I know. That sounds fun. Although I will say multiple hits, she's going to have a rough weekend.

She's going to be real sad over the weekend. Just throwing that out there, girl. It's always the downfall of those. kind of drugs is the real sad. The aftermath sucks, dude. It's literally what makes me that I'm like, oh my God, am I ever, am I never going to do a party drug ever again? I don't want to be sad. Maybe for my 50th birthday. I'll do like a bunch of like ecstasy or something. I feel like you do that and then you pay to do the whole like where it's like the team comes in and they give you the IVs and they do the like all that stuff the next day where you're like, turn me better,

make it with liquids. I don't know what those things do. I love them. Oh, I love an IV. Give it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I would do that if I was rich. Okay. Blind number three. This A-list, mostly movie actor from an acting family, is looking super creepy with his much, much younger girlfriend. The thing is, though, she knows he likes creepy, so she lied about her age. She is actually almost a decade older than she told him. That's funny. That is funny. I thought I was getting a child. But also, I don't mean to be like this, but girl, you

want to lie about that to go get that guy? It's disgusting. Yeah, everybody sucks. There's no core people in this story. Yeah, if this is true, that's really so gross. And this story is gross. Everything about this is gross. And we have not talked about it on the show yet.

This is an actor who we have not talked about regularly. But he is an A-list. He's an A-list and he's got a young girl. And he's, you say he's divorced? He is, is, no, he just, so he's in the news now because he just like kind of did a round of interviews about becoming a father. A father. Ah, father.

And there is a bigger age gap between, not David Harbor, there's a bigger age gap between him and his wife than there is between his wife and the baby, which is gross. That's so cool. So gross. We didn't even talk about Tom Zagora. No, you know, we didn't. We didn't. I'm going to say, were we surprised? I don't think we were.

He's so gross, man. He's so funny. I don't think we were surprised by this. This actor is in one of your favorite, not really favorite, but a Christmas movie that you like to watch, Jackie. One of the Christmas movies I like to watch, but not my favorite. Fossey. Fuzzy. I mean, Christmas Carol is my favorite.

How dare you? It's not my cocaine. My cocaine. It's not Craig T. Nelson, because, Craig T Nelson would never. Is it? Oh. Oh.

Wilson. Owen Wilson. The other one. The other one. Luke Wilson. It was Luke Wilson. It was Luke Wilson. I didn't even know he could still inseminate.

Wow. It doesn't matter how old they are, those pieces of plastic. They can just put anything in there, huh? Luke Wilson is 54 and his mother of his new child. is 24. And according to the brief and disgusted Google search I did, they have been together since 2023, which puts her at 21 when they met.

And I don't like that. But maybe it's 31 and 34 because she's a decade older. She's old. She's a dirty and liar. Oh, oh. Oh my God. She had night shopper on. She's Emma.

She's Emma. She's old. I'm actually 34. I do actually really love. I mean, everyone's horrible in the story, but I love the idea that he is going to be horrified to find out that she's only 20 years younger than him. Instead of 30s.

His dick is so wonderful and so magical to be around. He's such a special boy. I just, but I mean, I'll throw it out there. Man, had a huge crush on him from old school days. Old school was really... I never cared for. for either of the Wilson's, to be honest. It's good. It's for the best that you never

have that. But I will say, just recently we watched Zoolander and it's still really funny. Zoolander holds up. Also, in Royal Denenbaum Boms, too. Really never in Royal Denhammounds? Yeah, he's in so many good movies. He is, but I just never wanted to kiss him. Yeah. Yeah. His character, like the wedding crashers

stuff. Yeah, that icked you out too much. Ick, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because my problem is... I would say the most I've ever wanted to kiss him is in Family Stone when he kind of saved. Sarah Jessica Parker from herself. He's a big stoner guy. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I was very into it. Yeah. Of course I was really into it. Yeah. Oopsies. Well, I can see again. And the good news is I can also see you guys again.

Oh, good. So I can literally see again. That's great. Thank you. And we can see your amazing shirt. I do love, I brought up MJ's amazing dinosaur shirt earlier just because you usually don't come in with such a pop of color. And I love that we're, look at us wearing color now that we're on film.

I'm not. Yeah, but you have beautiful eye makeup on though with a good chartreuse going. And that is giving me loif. Yeah, my kids are like very invested in being like my personal stylist now that they know that I'm on YouTube. I love this. You need to wear more colors and better shirts. I just want you to start coming in with like huge hats with like big feathers. And like the kids are like, this, wear this.

And you're just like, okay, yeah, put this on, sure. Yeah. Some hook core, if you will. Whoa, little Rufio coded. Oh, dude. N.J., you would slay as Rufio for Halloween. I've never even considered it because in my head, embarrassing to say,

Rufio's older than me. Oh, that's the issue. That's what the issue is. Okay, I like that. It's just that he's older than you. I feel that's good. Yeah, just keep that. I'm glad that Desmond Housewives.

Yeah, Desmond Housewives hasn't gotten into your spirit yet. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. That's good. I don't want to kiss Rufio. Good God. I know people, many people had crushes on Rufio. I was never a Rufio person.

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, he was a little foxy boy. But I was a child. I was a child, everyone. I was when I was a child. We were all children liking the child. It's okay.

Now we watch it and I have a weird thing for Bob Hoskins. and I never knew you'd think I'd go Captain Hook and not Smee. I mean, Hulk is giving Queen. Come on. I mean, which also is kind of my thing. But I also feel like... Yeah, but you know he's not into it. You're right.

And I also feel like Smee would take care of me the way Captain Hook wouldn't. I don't know if I can get it down with Smee, but... Down with the Smeanus. I sent you... Smee would take care if you have like a trauma response from being responsible for Captain Hook. I'll take it, MJ. No matter how the dog gets trained, I just need them to heal. But thank you.

I don't know why I said it like that. Thank you for, MJ, thank you for the blind items. I appreciate the blind items that you have brought here today. Thank you. Now, it is time for us to snack. Oh, thank God. For a second, I thought maybe you had taken the food part out, and I was like, why am I here? No, you get the food part.

Now you get to listen to the theme song, though, because it's going to drop, and you're gonna get God. I've been a snackie girl. Snacky. I've been a snackie girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky.

I've been a snackie. Snacky. Is somebody gonna eat those chips? Is somebody gonna dip those dips? Is somebody gonna try those candies? I got seminar. They say I'm a snackly. I'm a snackly.

Yeah, really. I'm a snackly? I think so. Snackly. How did you feel about it? Are you too horny to eat the snack? Why are you so confused? This has been the theme song the entire time.

It's always been here. You've never heard it because usually they would put it in post, but now that we record this way, we listen to this. I was always there. It's always been there. I love you. I listen to it. Natalie?

You don't worry. If you told me that there were some spun, segments where I don't know where it's like oh then we get into the tornado of torture and then it's like oh then we get spit out and then it's all and then it's in black and white and I know those portions of spun

as well I can't wait for you to hear MJ's theme song as well MJ also is a theme song they're amazing theme songs you'll love it now Natalie do you want sweet or do you want savory Natalie? I only get one well you would get multiple of savory.

Savory. Okay. And honestly, I gave you the choice because, and I will say last time, I realized I don't know how I always ended up

giving you the Oreos. So the sweet I had was the new Oreo, but I was like, I also thought that you might like this other one because...

Yeah, I don't know if the corn Oreos count as a sweet I am really excited. I am really excited, though. I will say, that I may have gotten the Carnival

limited edition that are on its way and I am going to save that for the next time. You have your mouth ready, Natalie. No, right now, we are going, now, it's all, I was fascinated because I didn't think we needed all three. And for some reason, goldfish, so we've got our hot buffalo, right?

We've got a regular hot buffalo, they're seasoned pretzels now. Yeah. But then they also are putting out goldfish zesty ranch as well, as well as a honey mustard. And I feel- As all three items you just listed, are they all goldfish? They're all goldfish. Okay. But are they all pretzel?

Two are pretzel. One is not. That ranch one is already making me feel weird. Are you nervous? And that was the one that I was going to be. So I think that we should sell. I'm selling these to you where you take some of the seasoned hot buffalo pretzels. You mix them in with the ranch and then shovel them in.

I hate them white. Like being at B-dubs. Why do you are all interesting. Why are cummy little fish? I think I've said this before even on the show, but I have it, I have a, what's the word to ranch? What's the word? Fear. No, the rejection of ranch.

Like the... Transjection. Aversion. Adversion. I have an aversion to ranch because when I worked at Burger King as a teenager, those packets would get shipped in these massive boxes. And whatever was in the ranch dipping sauce would eat away at the...

I think this is why you also don't like dill. You don't like dill either. And I wonder if it has to do with your ranch trauma. Maybe. I love dill pickles. Dill on salads was weird to me. But, I mean, I still... With the ranch...

ate away. So the ranch would eat away at the lining of the packet. So we would get, we would get the boxes in of the ranch dipping sauce and half of them would be open and rotting. And so I have since then never been able to like really enjoy ranch in any capacity. I don't blame you. I enjoy ranch and that. I don't know if I'll ever enjoy it again after this story. So what you're saying is you're going to love these goldfish. Let's. Honestly, not as ranchies, I thought. Because sometimes when you open up a ranch-flavored item, you get powed with the deal, whether you want it or not. And I like the seasonings within a ranch, but yeah, I don't know. I just, I feel like, like, I bought like a ranch taco seasoning. And I was like, that sounds good. And it's been on my shelf for years because I'm like, when do I want my tacos to taste like ranch? I completely understand.

I don't know. And I, there, I've always. also seen so many TikToks that are like, you know, you need a pack of ranch seasoning. Right. And I want us to put it in everything. Can I smell it? Yeah, get in there. Get in there, bitch.

You're going to be okay, Natalie? You've been a wrenchy girl. She doesn't like the wrenchy, wrenchy, wrenchy. She's not a wrenching girl. I can't believe it erodes. She's not a wrenching girl. Who knew that ranch was such a powerful, acerbic material that it could eat vinegar? Maybe I have no idea why it was specifically the ranch that happened to at the Burger King

dipping sauce because there was many. I don't know if that's still the case, but when I worked there many moons ago, there was like six or seven different sauces that you could order from Burger King. And Ranch was the only one that did that. Jackie, okay? I don't, for, you know, I huffed the ranch and then I huffed the buffalo. and the buffalo was just, it gave me such a vinegar wind up my canal.

I mean, I can, I don't fuck with the buffalo ones. Yeah, okay, you get up in, you don't have to ranch. You don't have to ranch. I don't have to scare you, but also I will, I do have to take a picture of you, suppose, for me, Natalie.

Why are they so big? Are these extra big? No, I guess they're not. I made sure. I was like, do you make them extra throbby? Are these bigger than the goldfish normally? I wish I could see. just by, there's also a bunch of Pokemon-themed goldfish.

So we just bought the Bulbosaur goldfish. Whoa, did you catch them all? We've only caught one. Oh yeah, I'm down for this. It's only Bulbosso. Wait, it's all Bulbosur. It's a Pokemon goldfish? There's a whole wall of different Pokemon goldfish. And there's Pikachu and there's Bulbosur and there's swirdle.

They know how to get to buy stuff. I will throw it out there. The back, and I am going to post this picture, the back of the ranch goldfish just says, zesty, creamy, Yeha! What is that? Is it because of like a ranch? Like a ranch?

Like a ranch? Like a ranch? Like that is nothing to do with the condiment of ranch. So what are we thinking with this buffalo? Love them. They remind me of salt and vinegar. Ah! Don't, Natalie. Don't, don't. Natalie don't.

No, ranch. Jackie says no to ranch. And here's the thing. I love ranch. Natalie don't. It's very ranch-based. This is not, I can't imagine eating just these. Now, I, but I do love rent.

I'm going in for another one. It's a lot more flavor than I'm expecting. And I have like coffee in my mouth. So it's more of a, it was more of a surprise more than anything. I'm going to give these, this is a fire, hot buffalo. You like it? Goldfish, yeah. Fire fire.

I like goldfish, but also. The fact about goldfish that has tempered my enjoyment of them is that pediatric dentists told me when I first started taking my kids to the dentist, don't give your kids goldfish too much because they are designed to be so like palatable and so smooth that they just kind of turn into a paste in the mouth and they can get, they really get stuck on kids' teeth because they are so easy to chew and consume. I mean, they're right. Yes.

That does happen to all of us. And I love crackers, but they're like a hyper. chewable for children. I dare say, and not just because like, oh,

I'm just a capitalist bitch and I love a monopoly, but I do feel that this goldfish would fare better if it were not just random

zesty ranch flavored and if it were a collab with Hidden Valley ranch. I think that they should have used a higher caliber of ranch. We are always

criticizing. Hidden Valley's ranch imperialism. They're trying to get too powerful. But they're the best ranch outside of, I think, what is it, the lighthouse? I think everybody always sends me. There's one other ranch that apparently is good. But this just says zesty ranch flavored. Is it good or is it because you grew up with it?

Because I only really ever want Heinz ketchup. And I don't know if it's actually good or if it's just because that's the only thing I ever had growing up. You're used to that because that's also all the show. But you're right. It is also a nostalgia flavor. And I would say even just for ketchup specific. that's just sugar sauce. So anything that's sugar sauce.

With vinegar. With vinegar, you're right. I think that a lot of people are going to get into. But I do feel that this would fare better with Hidden Valley Ranch. Wow. Wow. Sorry, didn't mean to drop my big ranch thoughts on all you all. Capitalists over here.

Yep. Yep. I love it. Hidden Valley should be paying us for the amount that we talk about them. Wait, so you guys did Buffalo and Ranch. Oh, yeah. Do you want the honey mustard? Then I realized honey mustard, I guess, is kind of out of this sphere.

Yeah. How about that's good? I feel like a very take it or leave it with honey mustard. I think that I was just grabbing pretzels. I was like, ain't seen this one. I was doing this one of those, you know? I'm down with these. I'm going to eat all of them probably.

I'm so glad because sometimes I honestly really struggle with only the generic buffalo flavor sometimes because I feel that it is too much of just the vinegory hot sauce taste. Not me. I get it, though. And mixed with other shit. Like, you give me a buffalo dip. Like, you put it in some deal. Then we're dipping with some celery sick.

Yep. Does that mean you're not a salt and vinegar chip person? No, I love salt and vinegar chip. I think I just more of, I'm more of a green, like a verne-based hot sauce kind of gal. Interesting. Like a saracha or like a Valentina or something like that. I guess everyone can be wrong sometimes. Well, I mean, I know your feelings.

about ranch have been heard, Natalie. So does this mean it's my time? It's your time to shine, babe. Get ready for this song, Natalie. I'm drumming even though there's no drums. You are. Try something new. It might blow my mind.

Hello, spicy. Hello, crunch. It's MJ. Mm-hmm. Mimamah, ma'am. Midge. Hello. You're my wild thrill.

It sounds Jets. M. M. Mimma, ma, ma, ma. Mimma. Mimmy. Mimmona, Mim. Spitty, punch, mini.

Wow, runaways moment. As a punk, as a former punk, does it speak to you? Yeah, it was great. It's cherry bomb. I know not as sexy as mine, and I know you want to be sexy when we are consuming our snackies. Now, as per the conversation about my children discovering that I'm on YouTube right now, they really have a lot of input about what is successful on YouTube. And they said, you know what people do on YouTube?

they eat the world's spiciest gummy bear. And they said, will you order the world spiciest gummy bear? And I said, I'm not that type of YouTuber. But we did order these, which are Snack Club Taheen gummy bears. And I love Tahin. Me too. I love Tahin. And I love it on something sweet.

Love it on pineapple. Oh, yeah. Love it on mango. I'm going to blow your mind. It's actually very, very, very, they're very easy to make. And you can very easily do them with gushers to put the, like taheen sauce on the outside of gushers, yo, they are so good.

Like, I have to, whenever I see them, especially at like cons and stuff like that, selling, like, there's different, uh, companies that sell small batch versions of these like tahine paste covered treats. And, oh, you got to keep me away from them. Good luck with this snack club. And also, you may have the issue that I just had, which is I think I probably grossed out about 50% of the audience

because I was just like sucking on my fingers because of the, um, the stuff. Yeah, but that's where the goods are. Everybody, no, everyone knows you got to get in there. Yeah, it's part of the process. Yeah, I know that this is a popular genre of candy right now, right? Like the spicy chimo, like the, somebody sent me those chamoie peaches. Yeah, the chamoid peaches are fucking fires.

Thank you. Yeah, the chimois peaches were awesome. So here I go with my spicy gummy bears. Dude. Hmm, so chewy, sorry. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Awesome. They're not the world spiciest gummy bear, but they are delicious.

It's a great balance of mostly gummy bear, a little bit of spice. Taheen can do no wrong. Tehine can do no wrong. You've heard it here last, folks. I don't know where you heard it first, but you should go find them and tell them they were right all along. But thank you so much, MJ, for bringing in your minute munch. I think that this, I'm going to jow down on them if I can find them. I'm going to start looking for some snack clubs.

I recently found a new kind of gummy. I'm blanking on the name of the actual name, but someone had told me to find them. And I found them they had gummy sharks, but literally in just a bag this big, they had like four or five gummy sharks in it because the gummy sharks were this big. And I don't want that.

And for those not looking at the YouTube, like the size of two handfuls, it was too gummy. It was too much shark for one mouth. Jennifer love Hugh and a mouth. Yeah. Of knees sharks. Yes.

Bitch. But welcome back, MJ. And welcome everyone to the end of the show. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. I had really a wonderful time. I really had a great time for you guys today. I'm going to say goodbye. Yeah.

I'm going to say that when I want people to leave my house. Like, welcome to the end of the party. End of our hangout. Goodbye. This is where we will leave. It's a bit of a loha moment. And it is. Natalie, where can we find you, girl? Usually in this room, apparently.

Sometimes next to me and sometimes next to Amber. Excuse me. Oh, you want to suck on your fingers again? Too much about a goldfish. Yeah, you want to suck on me fingers. You can find me at the Natty Jean. You can also my two shows, one with Jackie, romantic see deep dives, and my other show someplace underneath with Amber.

are now on YouTube and TikTok and we're putting out a bunch of new content. We have season five of Spun that's going to come out later this year. And in between we're doing some video essays and some sketches and stuff, which is going to be really fun. It's not a fun show necessarily. But there are zanity times. There are zanies. You got to get through all of the horrors of the world. Yeah.

And also in Romantic Sea Deep Dives, sometimes we have to talk about torture and it's hard for us. And they're sexy. No, our Romantic Deep Dives is very fun. We're doing some live shows coming up. We got some fun surprises. We're doing the Akatar 6 release party live in Los Angeles. Tickets will be available soon for that. And, yeah, romantic deep dives, someplace underneath the Nottie Jean.

Check them all out. Thank you, everybody. Hopefully you're watching along so that you could see my knees dance for you because that's why they dance. They dance for thee. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. Come hang out with us.

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Sookie Stackhouse is exploding. We're in season six of Buffy, losing our minds in multiple directions. over on the Patreon, MJ. You can email us, page 7 podcast at gmail.com. We love hearing from you. We love all of you guys. And Natalie, we love you.

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