Page 7 - Ep. 404: Could I Be Any More Of A Dog?

Episode Date: May 27, 2021

This week we goss bout the Friends reunion, Tessa Thompson, Rita Ora and Taika Waititi's spicy all nighter, A-Rods Make-up line, KJ Apa becoming a father, special info on TOM CRUISE IN SPACE and the n...ew Willy Wonka. And In Conspiracy Corner; Are celebrities stuck in a Hunger Games style scandal lottery? Did a singer snort a line of coke live on Eurovision? Also, we got THE LIST! AND BLIIIINDS!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7PodcastKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You know when you get a song in your head, and you only know a tiny phrase of the song, and you don't know the song, you don't know the name of it, you don't know who sings it, and I have had four weeks stuck in my head, and I believe, that's it. I didn't know any of the other words. And I was like, what is it? And I would look it up. And I'd be like, I know it's a 90s song. And I would put an I believe.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Yeah, I believe is impossible. The phrase I believe is in many, many songs. and I found it. I finally fucking found it. And I'm sad, though, because it is a Christian rock song by the band, Blessed Union of Souls, who I did, I loved Blessed Union of Souls. But then I listened to the whole song
Starting point is 00:00:53 and I got upset because it starts with, Walk blindly to the light and reach out for his hand. His hand. Don't ask any questions and don't try to understand. open up your mind and then open up your heart and you will see that you and me aren't far apart because I believe that love is the answer and I believe that love will find the way
Starting point is 00:01:27 and I'm very proud of myself. Thank you Jackie's brain for helping me find it. In reality, it was one of the Spotify playlists that they gave me. They're like, oh, you listen to a bunch of 90s songs, you old, old woman. Remember this Blessed Union of Soul song? And I was in the car and was like, yeah, that's it! And I screamed to myself and I had to share it with you. Welcome to page seven.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Welcome. I'm coming from the opposite to. Raction, Jackie. Why? Because I, yesterday, on our way to the doctor, to get a little peek at our delicious baby coming on the way. A disgusting, completely disgusting in how you just said it. A delicious, succulent baby that's on the way. And I put on the stereo.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I was like, oh, I want to give this a shot. And I put on Olivia Rodriguez album. Oh my God, welcome to the year holding. Yeah, she's on everything. I just, I was listening to Teen Beats, as recommended by. Jackie on my way here. Dude teen beats. She's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I only heard the song by watching the S&L sketch. Driver's license is great. Sour is great. It had two things I loved. The Snell sketch. It had Rageet. Fuck, I'm gonna fuck his name.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Jean-Jet Jolz-Voset. It's close. Oh, the Rake himself. From Bridgerton. The Rake. The Duke is a rake. We all know that. He's in the sketch
Starting point is 00:02:53 and they mentioned Taylor Swift's fantastic songwriting in the sketch. So I was like, oh, I have to see what it's all about. These are two things I'm in love with that I'd like to make love with. Taylor Swift's songwriting and Rajajajat. Sharn. Sharn. Sharn. Now he's Irish. And he's a rake.
Starting point is 00:03:10 He's a rake. And so I was like, oh, you know, and then the album came out. I saw like pitchfork reviewed it. I was like, Jesus, it's everywhere. And so I put it on. And I think I'm a 17-year-old girl, like, trapped in a grown-ass man's body. Welcome, bro. Fucking welcome.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I think it's great. I really liked it. I think it's great. And people that are like, yeah, I guess it's good for people that are like 17 to go through a breakup. I'm like, um, I just like, it made me tear up a little bit. I have cried twice while listening to driver's license. Because it reminds me of that time.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It reminds me of those times. Why can't, why is, why are people unable? This is my problem with the world right now. Why are people unable to regress? Like, people like have to be the age they're at now and like they can't connect to anything even though it was like them at some point. It's like you remember fucking being like this, bro. Don't act like you weren't going through a heartbreak or forlorn.
Starting point is 00:04:05 In my sense case, I'm jealous of the song in a way because I never got to go through a breakup at 17 riding around in my car. I just got to think about what love might possibly be like at B. That's why teen love songs will always have a special place in my heart because I did not know teen love. Yeah. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's a rest of development a little bit or something or like whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:25 but still listening to that, I'm like, dude, I remember how that felt. What you, what you old codger, you don't remember how you felt. I feel bad for old ass you. I remember what it was like to be 17. I love that. Olivia Rodrigo, you fucking captured it in a bottle, girl, and I think you're great. So whatever, I guess I'll, like, learn how to play your songs on piano and sing them to my baby. Can you learn how to play it and I'll sing them with you?
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'm probably going to learn how to at least play driver's license. But I like a mini, I like quite a few. Also, I love winning album. And this is such a 17-year-old thing, right? because she's got like two things in her life, right? She's got like a TV show she likes and this breakup. So that's what we're singing about, right? So the whole album is just that.
Starting point is 00:05:04 The whole album is just the breakup. Right. And it's awesome. Like, yeah, fuck it. Let's just tell every angle of this one part of my life because you're 17. And things are so much simpler. And I'm jealous of that. And I love your album because of that.
Starting point is 00:05:18 So take that old. Hell yeah. I just literally looked up Olivia. Look, I typed in, Olivia Rodrigo, the first thing that came up from the Washington Post, why millennials can't just let ourselves enjoy Olivia Rodriguez? And I'm like, maybe that's what got me on this tangent because other people have given me that same sentiment when I was like, driver's license is a fucking bop. It's not a bop, but it's like a slop. You know what I mean? It is a sloap. Right? And,
Starting point is 00:05:43 you know, it's like, why? Yeah, why can't you just enjoy it? It's fucking great breakup song. Fuck it. I love breakup songs. Anyways, I'm done. I loved it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank Thank you for this platform. I think that we're in a, it's funny because on the one hand, right, you, people are like, you like the music that the teens make, you're a millennial, wow, get over it. Geriatric millennial, by the way. You are, yes, you are. I'm a regular millennial.
Starting point is 00:06:13 We are both regular. Thank you. You're super geriatric. Thank you. Whatever. But also, obviously, millennials are just obsessed with recreating our childhoods because everything, is, hence the friends reunion, everything is of reaching back
Starting point is 00:06:29 to what I'm so upset about this. How dare you bring it up to me? Can I be any more upset about it? Yes. Without a proper warning. I'm never going to stop laughing at those jokes. And I honestly think that we might be coming from different places on this.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I think you and I have had polar opposite emotional experiences on this, Jackie. With the show friends, I need to say it. I was a big friends person. Same. My sister and I would watch it together. I watched it every day. day when it was in syndication.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I've seen every single episode multiple times. It was one of those shows. That and Gilmore Girls that when I went to college and I was sad, I would be alone. I'd throw in a disc of friends because it was something that would comfort me. However, how much money did HBO Max put into this Friends reunion? I'm not even saying like, fuck this, fuck all of it. What I'm saying is, is they are pushing it so hard. To the extent that I've gone full circle where it's like, who cares?
Starting point is 00:07:30 This is the thing. This is the thing, right? Wait, MJ, do you care? Because you have a smile of someone that is. Yeah, do you care? This is what I'm saying. We had, like, if we grab our emotions, if you grab our emotions, my emotions upon reading your email was like, yeah, fucking Friends reunion, Jesus Christ, why is everybody always
Starting point is 00:07:51 talking about Friends? Yes, I watched it religiously when it was. live. I don't think I ever watched it in syndication. Good for you. It was on every day for two hours. That's four episodes a day. And I get it because I also like to watch the same shows over and over. I've seen every episode of Law and Order SVU probably 15 times. Like I, and so I just, for whatever reason, that wasn't my show, like Arrest the Development or whatever, but it wasn't friends. But so I loved it. And then I was like, I spent the last five to 10, maybe even longer. Like in college, I think I was like annoyed of people for watching friends. I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:23 there's better stuff out there, people. I get it. And I have been like, anti. And then I watched the HBO trailer. No, you didn't. And I got a little emotional. No, you didn't. I think I'm going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I think I might like it. Okay. I should watch the trailer with Lexi because I was going to just chime in and say, yeah. I was always a Seinfeld guy, less of a friends guy. I didn't like hate on friends. Like, I watched Friends even, but I was definitely like, take it or leave. I also understand people that hated it. I understand people that are very excited about the reunion.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I think that is great. Yes. I do. But it's just the way that they're pushing it. To the extent that Matthew Perry has his own friends merch line with things just, oh my, that it's just too far, MJ. It's just too far. I don't know. I think I want to get a shirt that says, could I be any more vaccinated?
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm pro. Take my eyes out. All right. If you wanted to talk about that, I was just going to, I was really quickly just going to say, but I live with an ex-friends, like, fanatic. She has the full DVD box set, yada, yada, yada. And I feel like it has weirdly worn off the mystique. Like she could kind of give a fuck about some friends these days.
Starting point is 00:09:43 To the point where I haven't heard a damn thing from her about this reunion. Maybe she doesn't know it exists. How does she not? You guys can talk about the rollout. I don't know. Everywhere. She's like, it's kind of. turned into a me thing. But yeah, going to
Starting point is 00:09:54 the Matthew Perry shirt thing, I will say, though, first of all, I'm starting to see you articles where you talk about backlashes on social media. And this is definitely a great case for that, because it was definitely like, they pulled three tweets. One of the tweets was just an anti-fucking Vax
Starting point is 00:10:10 tweet fuck faces, so it's not even like mad at him for cap. And at the same time, it's like, he's not capitalizing on the deaths of a bunch of people. He's trying to promote vaccination. I'm not upset about that. I don't get that. I'm not upset about that could I be any more vaccinated? I'm so over there like so many people died and you're trying.
Starting point is 00:10:26 No, it's just a vaccinate. It's just shut up. You know where I draw my line is when you sell a doggy bandana that says could I be any more of a dog? Ha ha ha. How dare you, Matthew Perry? What do you mean? That's funny. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It ferriates me. Can I be any more of a dog? I just needed 20 years off. Now apparently I'm back. I'm laughing at Matthew Perry's shit. I want to watch the fucking special. But Lexi spent the last 20 years on, so now she's off, you know. What's the special?
Starting point is 00:11:03 What is it? Is it an actual episode? Or is they just hanging out and like watching friends? No, they, it's a whole thing. There's an absolute, there's interviews with like Malala. There's interviews with people that like love friends. There's interviews with BTS talking about how they learned how to speak. English while watching friends.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I've actually heard that from several people. Which that's awesome. I think that's fucking cool as shit. But then, don't worry, guys, I was. It's James Corden that's going to run the interviews while they all sit on the couch. You know the couch I'm talking about. And they talk about their time on friends. Fine. I'm fine with all of these things.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's just, can I be any more of a tired old bitch? I guess. Oh, okay, yeah, I wish they had those shirts. That's, oh, I would wear that in a second. I want a show that says in the KKK font, I want a shirt that says, could it be any more of a white boy slumber? No, please don't.
Starting point is 00:12:09 With the white supremacist's font, but the little colored dots in between. You have to mix the two concepts together. And then you can just send your money directly to Matthew Perry, who did not write the episodes, But Matthew Perry should get that money. And it is like, I feel sad because everyone does look, I mean, they look like they've all had their, you know, fair share of work done. And Matthew Perry really does, he has aged.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And he's gone through a lot and I know that. But the picture, really, though, please look at Matthew Perry's merch site. The picture of him in the could I be any more vaccinated shirt giving a thumbs up haphazardly, he looks like. he can barely stand on his own where it's like, why did you just stuff him in this shirt? And I was like, just stand there. Can we just get one picture, Matthew? Open your eyes. Can you open your eyes just for a second?
Starting point is 00:13:04 And that's what it looks like. So who would you say held up the best? Rachel. Just in the whole... Rachel? She doesn't look like she's aged a single day. Neither does Lisa Kudrow. Lisa Kudro. Yeah, Lisa.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Kudro. Yeah, actually, I revised my answer. Lisa Kudro. Because with Rachel looks like she see the work, Whereas Cudra, even if she's gotten the work, I don't quite see it. I feel like in terms of like careers, I was thinking all afternoon about this and what a curse it must have been to be on that very successful show. Because obviously none of them, basically, none of them have been able to recover. Like, not a one. I mean, Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston, but Lisa Cudrow did pull some fun shows that I really liked.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But she was always my favorite. And the comeback, which was, I think, also on each other? The comeback was like so good. I think I mentioned this on the show before. I was so good I had to stop watching it because it was, it's about like a, like a has-been actor, like a one-hit wonder actor trying to come back. And it's so good that it was like viscerally painful. And just for me, like, and I was like, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But like, I feel like she has made it through. And you're right. Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston have both had careers. I guess I say they haven't, nobody's been able to recover in the sense that they've never been able to get out of the shadow. The only other shadow Jennifer Aniston has ever been under is like nobody wants to marry her, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Right, or the Brad Pitt that she was once married to Brad Pitt and famously cheated on, yeah. She kind of, yeah, with the accent. I feel like Jennifer Aniston's kind of a tragic figure in terms of how she's covered because it's just like, oh, she's like the hottest girl on earth, but why won't? Why will she always be a love?
Starting point is 00:14:51 I do like it though because the poor, the poor woman is to deal with the social media of that when it's like, she's probably, she's Jennifer fucking Anderson. She doesn't want to be in a relationship. She doesn't have to be a fucking relationship. But you're right. Every single rag magazine is just like,
Starting point is 00:15:07 she's brittle and dying. Never look her in the eyes or you will turn to dust. But then you see the women next to the men, and it's, again, probably because of the amount of work. but the women all look pretty good and the men are like, yikes. Matt LeBlanc's not looking too bad though with the silver, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, he's a bit of a silver fox. You're right. I guess it's really mostly Chandler and Ross looks the exact same just older. We are lucky to still have Chandler. Let's just say that. We are lucky that we still get his, him in existence as a human being.
Starting point is 00:15:42 We definitely are and I know that he went through a lot of issues, which I imagine anyone that gets that famous, that young will always go through that. I'm going to go ahead and say that's probably would have been my trajectory. Oh yeah. If I was on that show, if I was Chandler on that show, I think that would have, I don't know how it would, if I was just that set up that young and knowing that I do enjoy the drugs
Starting point is 00:16:06 the way I do. Speaking of Blokane, can we just say it real fast? Do not do cocaine right now. Please hear me. please listen to me as a former party girl and also a current lover of lots of drugs, please don't. So many people are dying right now. It is being cut with way too much fentanyl and people are just dying.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And I hate to say it. I know it's the beginning of but summer. But please don't do cocaine anytime soon. Yeah, yeah. This is, by the way, coming from Jackie, we literally used to call her ski ski. She literally would be like, are you going to the slopes today? I was like ski free. Ski fall.
Starting point is 00:16:52 What was that one where you would jump over thing? She called her breasts her slopes. It was a whole situation. So take it from her. It's not a good scene right now. If that is not realistic for you, if you will not stop or can't stop or if you don't do it but you're around a lot of people who do, in any case, no matter what, get a training on how to use Narcan and carry Narcan with you.
Starting point is 00:17:15 because you can reverse an overdose and your local, like in New York, I'm thinking of like vocal and a bunch of different organizations that like work with people who are drug users who will like run training, run, you know, every major city I think will have trainings from orgs like this about how to inject Narcan, how to use it safely. And so if you do, if you're going to be around people doing cocaine or if you're going to do it yourself, Carrie Narcan, but Jackie is right. Don't do it right now. It's not safe. There was just a tragedy here in New York, so just do not do it.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Please don't. And you can also, you can get it at CVS. You can talk to the pharmacy behind the counter of how to administer it and how to safely watch someone after it's been administered. I promise we will get back to our regular scheduled shitting on other pop culture things. I just needed to say it. Chandler lived, but we will die. We have to remember. And it's like it's no, the stigma, you know, there's a lot of, obviously a lot of stigma around drug use and drug addiction.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And I think that Chandler was, and actually, for me at least, for millennials, I was like an early example of that because everybody was watching friends and was like, what's going on? But it was the 90s. And so everybody was fucking shitty about drugs and was like, oh, what a moral failing, as opposed to being like, he needs help, you know, like, he needs help, you know, like, He, no, rather than just shoving him out of the spotlight because he was making a bad name for the Friends show. No, you needed help.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And seriously, take it from Jackie. We used to call her the human blur. Because you couldn't even see her. She'd just be vibrating so much. Yeah, you were like, oh my God, is there a, is there an out of focus lens on my eyes? Right? Like, what's going on? Why can I not? Why is she out of focus right now?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm the NASCAR of bitches, people. And in fact, that's how fast I got wet While looking at the pictures of Rita Ora, Tessa Thompson, and Tyco YTTT, the internet went aflame. And this is the day after like an all night or party. Like they clearly fucked all night and we're just having that next day like we were, We did something bad. That was my favorite part about it because there was no shade,
Starting point is 00:19:39 like whatever happened in the previous night, They were still just riding the good vibe. Nobody was like, oh, we shouldn't have done that. Everyone was like, let's keep it going. It's sunlight. Yeah. Well, and I don't think that's a scandal here. It just looks like a loving couple brought in a super foxy lady for some shenanigans.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And I love that the puritanical viewpoints of our country is very much just like, what? Oh my God, three adults kissing each other. Yeah, y'all. Well, I saw that. It was like, fucking get it, fucking get it. I am sad that they were at a private party and that those pictures had been taken from, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:20 somewhere that I imagine the paparazzi was hiding in a tree. But, man, they looked like they had a fucking a blast. Because Taika Waititi and Rita Ora have been dating for, I think, like six months or so. And Tessa Thompson, my God, I can't take my eyes off of her. How do we get the tape? I know that we shouldn't get the tape unless that is something that they can send to and want to, but I will pay
Starting point is 00:20:47 with my soul to watch the tape if they would maybe gift it to me. I'm just saying, my soul holding. I don't think I'd pay with my soul to see a buck session. You believe how dare you?
Starting point is 00:21:04 That is a Christian group of men. Do not twist their words. Bless the jars of clay or whatever the band is. Would not want you to use their. Blessing jars of clay. I mean, it may as well be. It's a hybrid of the two. Lil Nas X every here.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Unbelievable. In that context. I just, I love a hot, funny heartthrob. I love that Taika Waititi T. It's such a heartthrob because he's so funny. And I know that there have been funny heartthrobs in the past, but like a very, very, very talented, funny. Like, haughty.
Starting point is 00:21:41 It's such a joy. It's just an absolute blessing. Ooh, ooh, I'm dripping in Hachimachi right now. Every time, Taiti, it's difficult to look at him. Like, I talk about looking at him in a blur. Every time I see him, I just, I melt. And he's so talented. Oh, ho.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Just, yeah. We stand a talented, funny, fucking hot guy. I think I've loved everything he's done. So, yeah, including his penis. Or, including on the wind Where is the tape? And speaking of Jen Jimon, I know you weren't,
Starting point is 00:22:14 but I know you were thinking about Jen Jimon right now. What about Arod's makeup line that he's coming out with? Now, what I like is that the internet is turning this as if he decided to do this against J-Lo,
Starting point is 00:22:32 who released a beauty line earlier this year. Yeah, for men, is it for men? And also like, I don't think that that's what's happening. But it's very funny. I think this is very interesting. I mean, it makes me a little freaked out because I'm just like, y'all, it is the weirdest trick.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I feel like on society that women have had to just everyday deal with this sort of thing. And I feel like I've gotten away with murder by not having to think about makeup application for all of my life. So it does terrify me that this will become normalized and I will have to start using foundation. It's great. But at the same time, it's good to equalize it.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm just also terrified because I just, now I have to add a, how long is it take? You don't have to do nothing. Honestly, ever since the mask started, I don't want to really put makeup on at all anymore. Because I'm like, it's just going to come off. What is it fucking matter?
Starting point is 00:23:24 You know, every time you get on the Zoom call and you're not wearing makeup, Jackie. I was going, oh! Should I start doing it to you, Holden? You all these are going, oh, oh, where's his blur stick? Hey, Ron! Where's your hymns? My favorite part of the article is when it refers to makeup and quotes.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Like, A-Rod made makeup of men. Like, you can't call it makeup, it's fucking makeup. You put it on your face. It's for guys. It's the same thing as regular makeup. It covers your scars. Because men have scars to cover. And like, knicks from shaving.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I feel the same way about makeup as I feel about razors, as I feel. about razors as I feel about lots of things that people use, that I think that this is just another way of like, why can't we just normalize makeup for people? Like, if you want to use makeup, have some makeup. Like, isn't that great? But, like, why, I think it's a backwards move at this point. Yeah, I think it's awesome. And at the same time, it's the laziness side of me that's slightly upset. I'm the same. Because I know eventually it's going to be a thing that I'll just But I will say also, I have a memory of a guy in my theater class, like a straight guy in my theater class in college, by the way,
Starting point is 00:24:43 with a bunch of progressive people. And I remember he showed up one day and like after like with some friends was like, he's wearing eyeliner. And it was like this, everyone got all like, or at least the people I was with were being all judging on him. No, hot as shit. For like wearing eyeliner. You know, well this is, and this is college, early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah, geriatric millennial. Yeah, the geriatric millennial over here. And I look back in that and I'm like, man, we were being fucking dicks. You know what I mean? So, like, I'm glad that it's normalized. And actually, you know, and even to the point where the term guy liner is like, why does it have to be guy liner? It's just fucking eyeliner, you know, you don't have to like gender it just to make it like normalize it for men. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's like, oh, baby. My first crush, number one guyliner icon, you know. It was that exact time period, the early 2000s where he was wearing eyeliner and everyone was like, what is this? Is he gay? What is happening? Why does he have eyeliner up? Why? God, why?
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, so it's good. I'm glad it's happening and at the same time. I can't wait. I don't want to wake up an extra 20 minutes before work. By work, I mean, sitting in my pajamas doing research. This doesn't affect me at all, actually,
Starting point is 00:25:53 now that I think about it. No, it really doesn't. It's in a man tube for your man scratches and you just put it on whatever your man wounds are. I got manscape. Have I used, been using it? pretty much at all no, but I got Manscape. So I will continue to look towards refining what you see here
Starting point is 00:26:10 into something more appreciated by. The world. We need more appreciation for you and your body, Holden. I'm constantly saying that. Give it up for Holden's body. So did Jalo throw up until she died when she heard about this man makeup that her ex is using? She's too fucking busy having sex with Ben Affleck. He's having so much sex with Ben Affleck.
Starting point is 00:26:34 right now. She didn't go like, I'm gonna, you know, slam my head against this wall until he discontinues his makeup line, Daddy or something like that. She didn't do that. No, she wasn't freak out about it. Veronica from Riverdale. But speaking of, which I didn't include, I guess congratulations goes out to KJ.EPA. MJ, did you know that he recently became a father? KJ.EFA? J.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E. De De De De De Dei. And I love it. because I really appreciate everyone that hit me up about this, that also included his TikTok videos as this man became a father.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And I really do implore you. I don't know if I've ever told you guys to watch his TikToks before and or if you have ever. But man, I kind of love how weird it is. I think he's, I love a really weird stereotypically hot person. He doesn't carry himself like he looks the way he does. And I think that's a lot of fun. I like that too. I think that I just like people from New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I get it. I'm sure there's bad ones out there, but most of the ones that I have seen are great. And KJ. Appa is an infuriating. Oh, my God. He plays an infuriating character in Archie Andrews. Go get that ice cream. I'm like, I haven't heard an ice cream truck in so long. Well, that would make sense
Starting point is 00:28:04 Why they're not out here in L.A. Well, you know who recognizes the sound of the ice cream truck now is three-year-old Freddie Oliver now Has not learned that you just hear that constantly So now every single time she's like, hey, is that an ice cream child? Oh my God. Go look for it. And that's what you make up weird thing.
Starting point is 00:28:22 You're like, no, that's the dead person car. It makes the same sound. But it's just filled with dead people so don't go out there and don't come alive and eat your eyes out. People. Yeah, make her scared of the ice cream truck.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That's what you gotta do. Yay, yeah. Yeah. A sound that she'll hear all day, every day for the next three months. Some maniacal man driving around a bunch of dead people that come alive with children. It's just ice cream.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It's just ice cream. They wish to take your tongue. And out. Now, now I do want to switch gears a little bit. even though I love thinking about dead people, ice cream trucks. But we had someone write in that I was so interested in what they had to say that I want to read the email, not even as part of the shoutouts.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Because they wrote in as a person, remember last week when we were talking about the Tom Cruise space movie? Yes. And like all of the actualities of how that comes to be. The race to die in space. Yes. This person works in the space industry and is working on this project. I cannot say their name. However, they gave a little bit more background, at least a little bit of what this actually entails. And so I wanted to share part of this with you guys.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Because I know that I shouldn't feel this way, but I feel like there's a lot of other ways you could, things you could pay for. Rather than spending $55 million per person to get them into space. Jesus. All right. I just want to throw this out. I'm just going to read part of this because I was so fascinated by this. So what this person said, the basics of the mission are the Tom Cruise and his co-passenger, Doug Lyman, who is the director, will fly as spaceflight participants. note they are not astronauts.
Starting point is 00:30:31 This is an important distinction on a private space mission chartered by Axiom. So apparently Axiom is buying space on a SpaceX crew dragon capsule, which will fly to the ISS. So essentially what they said is think of Axiom like a tour company and SpaceX as the company that owns the tour bus. And Axiom rents the buses as needed. which makes a lot more sense. Yeah. So they continue on saying, y'all brought up some really great points
Starting point is 00:31:03 about why space movies are kind of a weird concept, namely that you can get pretty good quality CGI for a fraction of the price of actually going to space. To that point, you are absolutely correct. In fact, the estimated cost to launch someone to space is $55 million. That doesn't include the cost of accommodations in space.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Accommodations and spinole. You got to get the hotel. Yeah, all the day. Like, they got to sit. Like, you know, get the food and whatever. all of the equipment and everything they have to get up there. Yeah, dude. And apparently they go on to say space tourism to the ISS isn't new, as there were missions in the 2000s, though they all launched on Russian spacecrafts.
Starting point is 00:31:43 One of these missions also included someone who tried to film a movie, but it wasn't nearly the same level as the Tom Cruise thing. But also what they continued on in saying, one final point. Since this mission is not a normal ISS resupply mission, there will likely. be a lot of space on the capsule. Most of this will likely be used for filming equipment and food and whatever, but the spaceflight participants will be able to bring personal items up to the station. Oftentimes, these personal items include fresh food. And yes, that means that Tom Cruise could totally bring up some fish for his own personal
Starting point is 00:32:19 use. He's going to go for fish in the mouth in outer space, and I don't know if I am flabbergasted in fury or in honor? I mean, I never thought about fucking in space. But you know what, man, this does bring up some thoughts, right? Because, I mean, I'm not talking about TH-H-O-T thoughts. I'm talking about thoughts, T-H-O-U-G-H-T. Not a lot of thoughts in space.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah, you get me up in space, so you wait. I'll get all the kind of thoughts. All right, please, for a little second. No, but, but yeah, talk about no motion in that ocean. I mean, you are slow as a slug up there in that anti-gravity, and I don't know if I would be able to get my jollies off very easily. I don't think so. Maybe it would be hot.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Maybe it would be like, oh, it's so slow. Well, you've got all the stuff on, you know? How are you going to feel anything under there? Never to ask MJ for any sort of sex. I'm just saying. Maybe it'd be good, really slow and weird. Oh, it's so slow. It was the way that you, you so.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I've never heard an undersell so bad on your own advice. So much equipment. I'm so nauseous, you know. Oh, yeah, baby. This is just being so nauseous what I'm having said. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, baby. This is so cumbersome.
Starting point is 00:33:44 There's all this dry food around here. I don't think that I would want to fucking space, but I guess, you know, given the opportunity, I know that we've talked about this, You both said that you wouldn't go to space. Zero percent chance. No. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It would have to be so, we'd have to be living in the future, essentially. It'd have to be so normalized. As soon as something's like bog standard and normalized, like flying, for instance, right? I mean, like, yeah, you get freaked out flying, but like you shouldn't. You know what I mean? And if spaceflight got to that point, maybe, but as it stands now, absolutely not. I would just puke. I would puke everywhere.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I can't do it. I wouldn't peek everywhere. I'd just be like, what am I doing? I feel trapped in this little vessel. How long is it going to take to get back home? A decade? What's happening? Oh, I guess I'll just die on Mars.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Wow, that sounds cool. You want to watch Aniara. You want a great, bleak, sci-fi, space movie. Aniara. Is that the one where they're just like floating until they die? Is that the one? Maybe. Such a fun sell for that one.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I was like, yeah, that sounds like my absolute living nightmare. So maybe I'll skip it out. I cried for days. but like in a fun way and I'm also going to cry for days most likely after I watch Timothy be cast as Willie fucking Wonka
Starting point is 00:35:02 All right a couple of things here So I first of all It is another Cruella It is an origin story for Willie Wonka That makes it slightly more interesting And actually I'm slightly on board Because I didn't know until I looked at it
Starting point is 00:35:14 Because I saw Jackie Sometimes you hear Jackie When you read her email You literally hear her screaming in your ear You're like And you are I was almost on board. I was like, yeah, fuck this shit.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And then I went in and I was like, oh, it's the director who did the Pannington movies. I have heard tale that I should watch the Paddington movies. I have heard tale. I'm going to admit, also I haven't seen them, but apparently Paddington 2 is the, it actually motivated that seeing this makes me actually, I need to finally sit down and watch. Especially Paddington 2 is apparently like one of the best movies of the last decade. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yes. I've been told many times to watch them. Apparently Paddington, too, is incredible. Really? It's like, yeah, it's that movie that I just have not set down to watch that is apparently just the fucking best. It's very like West Anderson inspired and this, that, and the other. But apparently it is the shit's tits. So definitely.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I mean, you know how I felt about Christopher Robin. I know that has nothing to do with Paddington, but I'm just saying that if even my cold, mean heart can be changed to the idea, oh, doesn't she want a red balloon? Oh my God, Winnie the Pooh, you fucker. Ooh, you little cute fucker. But why are you so anti? Is it Timothy Shalomey? Or is it the origin story?
Starting point is 00:36:30 I mean, there's a lot of reason. That it's redone for the millionth time. I mean, I don't want to speak for Jack. Jackie, you give us the lowdown, but I think I could guess. It really is. You know what, like, as Lori, Timothy, amazing. He is, I know he's an amazing actor.
Starting point is 00:36:44 He really is. And that's not what my issue is. Get someone that's more fun. In my brain, if you're going to try to be Gene Wilder, pick in the same way that I was upset about who they chose for the penguin in the R. Pats Batman. Right. Like, there's so many cool, amazing character actors. Like, Tim Faye needs no help.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. It was a great leading man. I'm sure he wants other fun opportunities, but you're young and you're hot. Like, you don't need, like, get someone that's cool. Yeah. Right? Or that's, this would be his real test to see if, he can really stretch past this certain thing that has been established.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And also I will say a couple things, right? It's an origin story. So maybe it's kind of about how he was once like a shallomay and then kind of became a J. J.J. in the wind. Wilde. Yeah, J. Jane in the wind. And also, if anyone can do it, I think maybe this director can.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I think the funniest thing to me is this new trend where Joker, Cruella, Wonka. That's the name of the new one. Wonka. So we're just going to do these one word names and it's the same fucking movie concept. How many more of these can we expect? I think a fun thought experiment which we've already played on this show, I believe,
Starting point is 00:38:01 is what are the next ones coming around the bin? We talked about an Ursula. I want to see an Ursula. I want to write it. I think that they're all really good ideas. I think an origin story for Wonka is kind of fun. Yeah, for sure. To see how he gets there, I'm totally down.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Like, and even honestly, I'm going to go see the Cruella movie as well. It's just. I'm all about, but I also love Emma. And I do. And I, like, I'm sure that it will be fun. And I'm not even naying on all of that. It's just there's so many other things that we could do. Or am I just being a nay nay?
Starting point is 00:38:39 No. I think we're going to get a Vader soon. I thought we already had that. Didn't you and your stars have that already? The prequels, but they're fucking god awful. and so I think we'll get a Vader probably. I'd love a riddler. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:52 That's what I'd love. A riddler. And you know, I want to watch all the people from Candy Lane. Part of it is technically, you have to give it to some, now, and now they always have to do the Heath Ledger thing, right? Where you give it to someone who's, like, seen in one light, and you're like, you're going to show them this whole other side of yourself. It's so formulaic and it's so hilarious that this evil villain backstory approach to filmmaking is. the new formula. What a weird like God, guys, can we not
Starting point is 00:39:21 diversify in the things we release? Do we have to just jump on these trin trades and just saturate them so terribly? And then not even, like give Wonka crazy name the history of the origin of the fantastical candy
Starting point is 00:39:37 man or something like that. Don't just say Wonka. It's what everyone else is doing. Yeah. I do go back and forth because sometimes I'm like enraged by the fact that there is like that everything is just like, what if we did it again? But then sometimes I'm like, ooh, but this time it's a good idea. And that was the roller coaster I went on with Wonka.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I was like, stop making the same thing over and over. And then I was like, ooh, an origin story. And see, this is a thing. So this is in the same time period. So I think that I have yelled towards you guys about this. And you know I love Riverdale, but they are doing the same thing on the CW. They're doing the same thing with the Powder Puff girls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So they released the pilot. and now they are reworking completely the live-action powderpuff girls that they're doing for CW because apparently the pilot was quote too campy. So then what are you going to do with it? So all right, you don't want it to be Riverdale. That is a step in the right direction. But then what are you going to do with it? You know, like in the same vein.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah, with the power puff girls. I don't know. Well, I didn't grow up enough with the Powerpuff girls. Like they were definitely in my vicinity for sure. I definitely watched some. But I mean, it's like, I guess in order to figure out what to do with it, you'd have to figure out what makes Power Pop Girls great in the first place. Which I guess what makes Power Pop Girls great in the first place is it's these strong little
Starting point is 00:40:57 girl characters that can be like icons for a young girl, young anyone. And but it's also this, it is campy, right? It's all like giant robots attack the city and, you know, they defend it. And it's like old school, yeah, it's like old school superhero tropes, modernized with this fun angle. So what do you do with the adults doing it in a live action? Are they supposed to be little girls? They are little girls.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And then I think that I believe that it follows them grown up. Oh, well, so that could be interesting. Every time I'm like, oh, that's got a fun. This is the thing. This is. If you took that instead, but you'd have to like let the thing mature a little bit. And I don't know if they're allowed to do that with the property. But yeah, if you made it so that you almost give it the Dark Night Return Stream.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And I'm talking about the comic book Dark Night, not the film Dark Night. And they're like getting too old for this shit. And they're like coming back for one last, you know, hazah. Or like how, you know, or if you took it in the vein of like, now they have to deal with their like brand and their social media presence. And it's all weighing on them. And then they like, and it's all about how they're negotiating being famous and being superheroes. The fact what I like is just reading a review of the powder puff girls written by a big fan of the original powder puff girls that said that like I don't mind the premise. Just take the Powerpuff girls.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I'm sorry, I keep saying Powder puff. I always say Powder puff. The Powerbuff girl label off of it because that is part of it is that like they were still allowed to be kids. They still had a bedtime. They love their dad. But now they're making it as like they're grown up and they're pissed off that they spent their whole childhood. fighting crime, when in reality,
Starting point is 00:42:43 part of the happiness of Powerpuff girls is like, but they, like, still had fun. Ah, uh-huh. So it does kind of fuck with the entire idea of it. But doesn't Riverdale do that too, right? Like, isn't Riverdale, like, Riverdale,
Starting point is 00:42:57 like, Riverdale literally a name only? Like, they have... Right. Like, there's nothing about Riverdale that resembles Riverdale. Although, you say that, but then even in the time jump and everything, like, when Archie comes back from war,
Starting point is 00:43:10 There's a whole line of comics of when Archie goes to war. Like, he's like pulled from it. There's a lot of, and I wish I had read the comics because we would be watching and Gideon, who knows a little bit more about the comics, would be like, oh, yeah, this thing that makes no sense to us as viewers happened because this is a reference to a comic, right? And so I think, right, and at River, I don't, but in terms of, so, but in terms of like the tone, right?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Right. In terms of the feeling. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. It's not just like, there's juggett eaten burgers. It's like, no, Jugged was tripping nuts and was handcuffed to his desk inside of his sex bunker. And now what's going to happen? You know, it's like, and those are actual things that happen in Riverdale, which is why we love Riverdale. It comes back in August, baby.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And it has nothing to do with the tone of the original. And so I feel like we are, we have entered a kind of like death of the author. era where it's just like you just use something as a prompt and then like Riverdale is the prompt the characters and it's again it's not like there isn't connections because there are but it's just like what if Riverdale was like really
Starting point is 00:44:22 dark and sexy this is like powder puff girls but what if it was dark and sexy and I hate it I'm going to watch it yes of course I'll watch it is that because the Riverdale ladies dressed as them for Halloween and they were like there it is give it a million dollars surprisingly that's not where it came
Starting point is 00:44:38 from but you are correct they did do that. I don't think that they could helm two different CW franchises at the same time, but I would love to watch him try. All right, so here's my pitch for Villan Origin Story cartoon movies or whatever movies coming out. Live action, actually, I guess they have to be. Okay, first of all, my favorite Disney movie, let's take it from Sword and the Stone,
Starting point is 00:44:59 Mad Mad, Mad a Mim. I want to know about that fucking OG story, bro. Mad, Mad Mad of M is my shit, dude. I will fuck with that all day. You've referred to me as her multiple. times by the way. Yes, I love and that is a loving referral. I love Mad Madameh. I love
Starting point is 00:45:16 Sword and a Stone, my favorite. I love it so much. After that, I would say the obvious one would be Lion King, Scar. Yeah, I can't believe that hasn't happened. But I think the real risky one that they should do because it would be the greatest trick ever pulled. The
Starting point is 00:45:31 Hunter from Bambi. Oh, don't you dare humanize that fucker. I love M.J's just That'd be good. That'd be fucked up. How fucked up would that be? Like, give him weirdly
Starting point is 00:45:44 some sort of, like, motivation that makes sense by the end. It would be so crazy. Like, like, mother deer, like, killed his whole family somehow and, like, and so now he murders every deer
Starting point is 00:45:57 experience. Especially the mothers. And we'll call it the deer hunter. No! And it starts with a wedding. But, like, what was one of the best movies of my,
Starting point is 00:46:08 one of my favorite movies, movies of my childhood, Hook, right? Like, I guess that's all to say. We've been doing this for a while. Oh, yes. Like, right now it feels like, oh, we literally only recycle things that have already existed. But, like, Hook is the best movie ever.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And what hit me even more recently that I'm surprised doesn't get attributed for being the first is Maleficent. Yeah. Of course, they've been doing this. Oh, I'm sorry. Are you referring to Hook, the brilliant 1991 movie that has a 29% on rotten tomatoes. It's so good. 29%
Starting point is 00:46:39 I saw it in the movie theater with my dad. I absolutely loved it. A classic for this man. Rotten Tomatoes is a swat. Such a good movie. 29%. What? And this is such a good conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Hit me. Do you believe in? The idea that all celebrities are knowingly in a hunger game type simulation. Yeah. This is an interesting one. This is a fan conspiracy there. This comes in from Rachel who says,
Starting point is 00:47:04 Hello! I love you all, but especially Holden. I love his dulcid features. I love his eyes. He's making it up. I love his smile. He's clearly the most intelligent and friendly. Wait a way to take.
Starting point is 00:47:17 All right. She didn't say any of that. Now, she said, I love you all and had a weird revelation while listening to you discuss Ben Affleck and all of his antics this month. Forgive me if you have already talked about this and I'm having some brain fog. How would we have ever talked about this, Rachel? But it got me thinking, what if celebrities are chosen each month or whatever time frame to be that topic of interest.
Starting point is 00:47:38 See, you bring this up all the time, Holden. Don't you naysay on, Rachel? Do I? Do I? Forgive me if you've already mentioned this, but what if it's all a simulation? What is all a simulation? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:52 I mean, I've thought about it all being a simulation before, but I've never actually just spoken about it on page seven. They get picked by a name out of a hat or like jury duty. They get a card in the mail. Like, congratulations, it's your turn to be the talk of the town. and then that celebrity has a story come out about them and they have to deal with the paparazzi media for however long it is.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Once their time is up, another person gets picked. So this is something, especially after watching a lot of the crown, I could see people coming up with for the royal family almost. And then they're free for another year, but bam, after that free year, their name or number could be picked at any time. The Ben Affleck stories sparked this because we have seen his name in the news for other things,
Starting point is 00:48:32 but now it just seems like it's the early 2000s again and who would just... follow him around for the fun of it. He seems, um, a little outdated. Just a thought and would like to hear your take on this conspiracy that popped into my brain. Thank you so much for all the great content, Sierra Rachel G. I mean, yeah, I can really see that.
Starting point is 00:48:51 A, we watched how bad they floundered during, uh, COVID unexpected. I think that they had no idea how to keep the hype train rolling. We couldn't figure out how to keep the hype train rolling on celebrity stuff for a, for a hot minute there. Uh, and then on top of it, you're right. It is odd. It's like why? And especially right now when the nostalgia thing,
Starting point is 00:49:09 oh, the nostalgia thing's so big. So like we want to, when everything else, you know, all the studios are like, remember the early 2000s? Remember the early 2000s?
Starting point is 00:49:19 Here's, you know, remember saved by the bell? Remember this and that? And then of course, now they're bringing nostalgia into celebrity fucking culture. I like this. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah. Why is it like weird? Like, and this keeps happening lately where people are doing this sort of. thing where it's like, remember this thing? It's back. Yeah, they're like back on the chopping block. My God, it makes sense of why friends is being hyped so much.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yes. 100%. So actually, I didn't believe you, Rachel, until I just put that connection together. So I'm more thankful that I put my own connection together than you presiding me this theory, but I still agree with you. And thank you for all those nice things you said about me. I didn't actually say about me. Do you think it's also why Lindsay Lowand is going to be in that Netflix movie?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yes, there's the Lindsay. that was on the list and we didn't even talk about Eurovision at all. No, and I watched so much Eurovision, but I do need to say just real quick, that really seems like that guy was doing a line of cocaine off the goddamn table. Can I just throw that out there? And the press of it, he's just like, uh, I don't do cocaine. And then he jumped up on his feet and did this weird frantic dance move. It was like, ah!
Starting point is 00:50:29 And then sat back down and he was like, I don't do cocaine. I don't do drugs. And I'm like, wait, wait. Wait a second. You just did the most I'm on cocaine thing you could have done just then. You literally jumped on your chair and made a crazy weird
Starting point is 00:50:41 Tom Cruise on a couch on a set of Oprah thing move. Yes, and sorry. I think now that you did cocaine. Randomly throw that in there. But look up if you don't watch Eurovision and I paid a lot closer attention this year because I've never really gotten too far into it before
Starting point is 00:50:58 and now I'm fucking into it. It's awesome. Now I completely get it. And the, I think it's pronounced Monskin. Monskin. It's a Dutch word. Uh-huh. That is these Italian rock and rollist band that won Eurovision.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But there is clearly a picture of the lead singer. Or a little video. Rail, doing a rail right off the table. It's just they're all sitting there. They're like celebrating. He just like, he definitely does the bend his head down, do the rail kind of motion. But he claims that it's because his band. member broke a glass and he was looking for glass on the table.
Starting point is 00:51:37 But... I mean, it's not normal to do cocaine with a bunch of cameras on you. Usually. Yeah, but if you just won Eurovision, you know... There's also a video of them, like, walking to the stage and he's clearly just, like, rubbing the fuck out of his nose, like, he just did a line of cocaine. So there is also that video. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I could go either way on this, because I was actually based on a similar situation, I was accused of doing cocaine and almost got kicked out of my London study abroad for. it. This is the other thing I know about cocaine. I don't know if it's changed. This is weird that cocaine is coming up. Back in my day, when I was accused of doing it, I was like, please give me a test. I've literally never done cocaine in mine fucking entire life. And they were like, oh, we can't because the turnaround for that drug is fast. So when he, and the article was like, oh, do a test as soon as they get back to Italy. It's days later. Yeah, that's what I've always heard is like, it doesn't go on. And I was like, unless the science has changed behind drug testing for
Starting point is 00:52:31 cocaine. I'm pretty sure he sort of missed his window for that and that was all bullshit him being like, I'll take a test, I'll take a test. But I will say that apparently Eurovision did confirm that broken glass was found under the table. But it is just, it's weird to look for glass with your hand up to your face, with your face down at the table. I've never looked. Say you lost a contact. Honestly, it looks like he could be looking for a contact. I feel like that is the closest thing. The difference is bending your knees to go down as opposed to bending at the waist.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Yeah. The bending at the waist is a real cocaine. Well, it's a perfect little, yeah. Well, also, I think the move that to me, and at the end of the day, it's impossible I convince somebody in an insane asylum that you're sane. But even just the way he's like, I don't do drugs, no drugs, I don't do it.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Like, the way he was about it was like so cocaine-y. I don't know how to describe it. Like, it was such a drug addict telling people. Yeah, it's like the same way for, you know, of like, yeah, I'm being asked, you know, to like take it easy on the drinks during the, you know, family get together. It's like, I've been fucking drinking. I barely have, I have four, I have seven drinks. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Is this that weird? Yes, I'm touching my nose. Look, I'm dodging my nose. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's that weird defensiveness that you see, uh, from people who have maybe an issue. Anyway, so you guys believe that we're in a simulation or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Fucking yes. I'm down. I'm down. Thanks, Rachel. Greatly appreciate it. There you go. Back to you, Jack. Back to me, and it's back to shout, shout it all out.
Starting point is 00:54:11 We need all the things that you need about. Come on. We're going to read out to you. Come on. Our first one goes out. I want to say thank you again to our secret inside space intel. and because it makes me feel really cool, like I am that much closer going to space,
Starting point is 00:54:36 even though I'm never probably going to go. But I also want to give a shout out to beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, Catherine from Rachel, because Rachel's wife, Catherine loves the show, and Catherine is turning 27 on Monday. And Rachel goes on to say, if anyone deserves a shout out, it's Catherine.
Starting point is 00:55:00 She's a beautiful, hilarious boss bitch in the best way possible that cares too deeply about her family, her work and her impact. She's a school psychologist, which means that she works with schools to make sure that students that require special education services get what they need to be as successful as they can throughout school. She cares so much about the children that she works with. And I love hearing about all the ways she ensures that her kiddos are getting accurate services. We love you guys so much and happy birthday, Catherine! You sound amazing and I wish I had someone like you in my school when I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Because those were definitely in the days where they didn't give a fuck. But you guys and people like UMJ are changing the school system and I appreciate it. Or at least trying to. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Catherine!
Starting point is 00:55:55 And I've got another very special shout-out for another amazing amazing. partner named Abby, who is graduating this year from the School of Visual Arts. She just got her degree in animation and already has a job in an animation studio here in New York, and I'm so proud of her. This comes from Kristen, who met them on the very first day of class at SVA in an anatomy drawing class. Abby was the one that introduced me to the last podcast network, and I've been an avid listener
Starting point is 00:56:26 since last January. I literally never stop. I'm constantly listening to the backlog of episodes while working on assignments or whatever. So thank you guys so much, and I hope you're all doing well. And we love you, Kristen. And congratulations, Abby.
Starting point is 00:56:39 You guys are doing it, doing it, doing it. And apparently Abby emailed about Kristen's birthday in March. So it's a gives these backseason. And it makes me so hapsies. I'm sorry. I said it. I did say that. And I can't take it back.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I can't fucking take it back. and I wouldn't take it back. And what I would take back is this pandemic from ruining or trying to ruin beautiful Emily who had a horrible fucking time this past year and I just wanted to say that I give you my love, I send you my love if you hear me talking about you and your gold sequin jumpsuit.
Starting point is 00:57:20 You should go put it on. You should go put it on and you know what? Fuck it if it fits or not. Or get one in a bigger fucking size because you, goddamn, deserve it. Because all of us is someone that is currently having to re-buy lots of clothing after the pandemic, I got to say. And not for fun reasons, but for my waist size.
Starting point is 00:57:42 There ain't no shame in it. We all got through this fucking year, all right? And we all used what we had to to get through the year. And it better not be fucking cocaine. Does everybody hear me? It better not be cocaine. But we love you, Emily. And we love all of you.
Starting point is 00:57:57 you guys and thank you so much for your shoutouts and you can totally write into page seven podcast at gmail.com if you got any more insider information or if there's more you want to tell us about because i love reading about it and it only um puts a pep in my step and thank you guys so much for the love and um i send all of my love right back but right now we got a list to read who's on the list Jackie got to have that list i'm going to also say that I'm going to also say that I had a lot of people writing to tell me that they supported my list last week and that I wasn't too much. And thank you very much for wanting to expand your minds. That was disgusting.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Oh, also I forgot. Sorry, someone wrote in that saw the Kermit performance. Oh, my God. I don't want to hear any more about that Kermit performance. Oh, my God. Someone actually saw it and said that it was done for comedy purpose. and she did sing the entire it's not easy being green
Starting point is 00:59:03 and down to the fact that he said I'm pretty sure I saw them bow in thanks afterwards with the fist still inside her No! So yeah I wonder if now I guess my follow-up question would have definitely been was it like a strained performance or was it like a freed up
Starting point is 00:59:21 like orgasmic performance you know apparently it was delightful like everyone loved it's noties everyone was just I mean was her performance She was lip syncing. Like, was her performance like, it's not easy being great? Or was it like, it's not it. I thought about you, Kermit.
Starting point is 00:59:39 No, she was lip syncing, so she didn't have to worry about it. See? Qualist performance every time. There you go. And, yeah, it was done for, I just like it because apparently, so this person was working as a PA and it was a program for pride. And no one knew what this performance was going to be. No one was prepared for it.
Starting point is 01:00:00 So it was like watching the audience go from shock to laughter as it went through, which does make me like it even more, though. All right. I'm warming up to it now. See, and thank you so, so much, David, for writing in and telling me about that because I was like, you saw it. Tell me everything. And he did. And I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And, but first, I apologize. We got to do the list, which is strange inspirations for iconic pop. Culture. Yes, it's a pop culture list. Don't worry. No more fisting conversations. No more. Because we have other things to talk about. Like the fact that King Kong was inspired by a movie about Komodo dragons. Yes. A 1926 expedition left the U.S. to capture Komodo dragons. And they did. They filmed the whole thing too. The movie was a big hit at the time, as were the dragons. And And Marion Cooper lifted parts of the story for King Kong. Yeah, originally they wanted it to just be like a monkey fighting a Komodo dragon.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Really? And it slowly became, yeah, yeah, it just slowly turned into this completely other thing. But that's why you got all the dinosaurs in the movie and stuff like that. Oh, see that? Makes a lot of sense. And you know what? I love a Komoto dragon. Ooh, they look so weak.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah, I think they were like, hey, we can't actually do this. This would be insane to just videotape a monkey fighting a Komoto dragon. Maybe we should just like make it up instead, you know what I mean? And sometimes you have to make up other things. Like. Okay? You okay? I was like, how do I transition to the next one?
Starting point is 01:01:44 You could hear it going, e, e, e, e, e, e, e, yeah, yeah, Jackie. You could make up anything. You could make it up. That's, yeah, sure. And sometimes life is lived in other ways, such as Peter Sellers based on... Oh, whoa! That's the one I was going to read, too,
Starting point is 01:02:00 that Peter Sellers based Dr. Strangelove's voice on a little known photographers. Sellers couldn't figure out what voice to do for Dr. Strange Love, so he eventually based it on the kind of strangled-sounding voice of the photographer, Ouija,
Starting point is 01:02:16 whose sellers had heard around the set. And I don't know if that's how you actually say Ouija, but I really can't imagine unless it's Wege, but you absolutely never know. This one's really cute, and it's probably why I chose it because I really love Gizmo very much. And that the design of the Gremlins was based on Japanese chin dogs. And if you look up Japanese chin dogs, they're so fucking cute.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And they do look like the Magwai's. They super look like the Giz. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's really cute. That's so cute. I like that one. And speaking of the Joker, which I think that everybody who's anybody knows this, but Joaquin Phoenix did base the Joker's laughing on an actual disorder.
Starting point is 01:03:00 In the movie, he can't control when he erupts into laughter, so he carries a card that explains his condition. That's based on a real condition. Pseudo-Bulber aggression. Wow. Which makes sufferers laugh or cry uncontrollably. Oof, God. Laugh or cry uncontrollably.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I think I'd actually rather cry uncontrollably than laugh uncontrollably. I guess. I honestly don't know. that makes even just a thought I cry a lot and I can't imagine crying more but did you know that Michael Jackson's smooth criminal was based on CPR training
Starting point is 01:03:34 materials? Which I did know. I did not know that but I mean of course I'm going to say that the alien ant farm version was based on CPR training materials but Annie is based on rescuzzi Annie or Annie a CPR doll
Starting point is 01:03:50 doll and asking are you okay is one of the first steps to take before you administer CPR. I think it's a bit of a long stretch. But I guess that they are, that is interesting. Yeah, I'll take it. And last but not least, everybody knows I'm a star's head. Yeah. Because Ren Kylo's helmet in the rise of Skywalker drew on a Japanese practice.
Starting point is 01:04:15 It's called Kinsugi, and it involves repairing any cracks with visible material like gold or silver so that the cracks become part of the object's history and not a defect. And it makes you think of like when my mom would take my pants that had rips in them, that I would want to have rips in them. But what would she would do? She would turn them inside out and put patches on underneath. And then I'd be very mad about it. So that's what it reminded me of, of my mom touching my pants.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Let me be covered in a hole, mom. Good times. She'll never understand me. you know, look up Japanese chin dogs. That's the list. Well, I would look it up, but I can't look at anything right now because I think I'm going...
Starting point is 01:05:00 Blind! Item! Here's the first one. Let it blow your fucking mind. I bet it will. This A-plus list mostly movie actress who doesn't act any longer. And also, way before that was known as a singer
Starting point is 01:05:17 in a ton of ways. And as the best plastic surgeon in the world says she got new breast implants because she was bored with her look. Singer and... Older, way super popular as a singer before she earned her stripes as an actor. J-Lo?
Starting point is 01:05:33 Older. No, old. Old! Older than your... Well, you could fathom. Older than the queen. Oh, no, she's so old. That's not true, the queen. No, no, she's not that.
Starting point is 01:05:44 All right, so singer-turned actress. Yes. Old. You love her. She's old. She's old. Yes. Share.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Isn't that the most share thing ever. I love that. She's like, yeah, I was bored, so I just got big ass tent. I love to share. And it was just her birthday. Happy birthday, share. She recently turned 75, and I hope you did actually do that, because that's fucking bad ass. Yeah. Just like, fuck it. I'm getting tits. I'm sick of this shit. It's 75, too. I love it. All right, here we go. This next one's fun as hell, too. This former stripper turned a alist actor, hired out an entire strip club of female strippers as a housewarming gift to himself. Yeah, I think he was first pretty well known For A Stripper movies.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Magic Mike. Channing Tater. Yeah. Yes. Oh. He recently bought a $5.6 million mid-century farmhouse in Brentwood. And again, just like Cher, I hope that actually happened. I hope so good.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That is so funny. Love him. Love him. He seems like a good one. I know. He seems like such a cutie face. Well, this next one's a bad one. This A plus list singer has no business being it.
Starting point is 01:06:53 she's whatever, has one of the most sophisticated bot farms that money can buy to make sure she sets every streaming record to a level that can't be beat. And she steals. And she likes to see what other people are doing and be like, oh, wow, they're really gaining a really big awesome following. I guess I'll hear about it from my friends of a friends through S&L. And I'll steal it and I'll tweet about it. And they know.
Starting point is 01:07:16 You Aaron, naterin, bitch. Thank you next. Yeah, you are. Wow. Oh, good one. Interesting how many, what is it? Once a week I get a blind item about her deceptions, and yet everyone's sitting around being like,
Starting point is 01:07:30 she's so, oh, big dick energy or whatever the fuck. Go fuck yourselves. Very hard because it seems like it's impossible to say Arionator without sounding like the word Aryan first. So she really shouldn't have stolen from you. It just doesn't work for me. That's the most egregious part about, or the most frustrating part about it is like,
Starting point is 01:07:49 Arianator is a shitty word to say. It does sound like Aryanation. It is, which honestly too, she could sort of, she sort of stole for Marcus. Because Roundtable a General, we're all creating our different brands. Marcus was Marcus Arian Nation, which we asked was a misstep for him. But at the same time, she sort of stole both. And it's egregious and unbelievable. And she should probably be stripped of all of her medals or whatever you do to a celebrity once they've been caught stealing.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I just. And kid licking don't. nuts. You know, and it really is not, I'm sure that you can become a real estate tycoon this young. But the young gentleman she married is like, apparently like a big wig real estate agent. I don't know what that mean. Like I just, like, how do you get that far that young in real estate? Like, do you have to have like an edge up? Like, I know many people that work in real estate. And you don't just like at the age of 21, like, become a millionaire. No, you probably only do that if you're already very, very, very rich,
Starting point is 01:08:56 and you're making money off of charging other people rent. Right. But maybe I'm just envious. I don't know. I don't know. That just sounds like a rich guy. Which, you know what? I guess go for all.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Either way. You know, I guess, I'm not worried about it. Well, I can see again, and I can see a thief when I smell one. And we are sniffing up a wedding dress, aren't we, Holden? Yep, that's what we're doing. Yeah, whatever, man. I mean, talk about whatever jail for the eternity. Solitary confine at whatever jail is.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Ariana deserves her fevers. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, start, feel sorry for you, bra. This guy. Whatever that's worth. I feel sorry. Hell yeah. Yeah, I feel sorry for you.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Finish, you tell that young millionaire. Yeah, it probably sucks for you, huh? Yeah. Yeah, snooze, you lose. Now go fuck a fish like Tom Cruise, bro. Yeah, dude. And very good. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Blind items are over and I'm mad about it. So blind items, shut up or whatever. You should be upset about it. And as upset that I am, that this episode is coming to a close. And I'd be like that for a fucking transition, all right? It's fucking awesome, man. We've been killed a game today with the connections between one subject to the next. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Thank you very much. Thank you guys for tuning in this week of page seven. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram, eject that worm. And you could totally check out me and hold and sitting in a tree. Killing it. T-W-I-T-C-E. H-I-N-G.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And we do that over on Holden's Twitch channel. Normally, not this week, though. We're taking one because Jackie is going home, which is going to be fun for her. So we're not going to be doing it this week. But normally we do on Fridays. It's fucking awesome. We party like crazy and have a great time.
Starting point is 01:11:02 But not this week. This week we will not be just having fun hanging out drinking. Well, please, guys, send me some positive energy for anyone else that hasn't seen their family. I'm sorry. I don't mean to me. A year and a half that has to go. rip off the band-aid of seeing their family.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I'm very lucky. My parents made it through. You know, I know that I'm very lucky. And, you know, you gotta go home at some point. That's what they always say. That's what they say. Gotta go home at some point. And we got to go home right now from this episode.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, Twitch.tv.4 slash Holdenatorsho. On the Twitch side, also check us out, rather Patreon.com ford slash page 7 podcast and we'll be doing, we do weekly, but we do so much bonus content. The Twilight stuff talking TV with Jackie Knight. It's fucking awesome. Check it out.
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