Page 7 - Ep. 404: Could I Be Any More Of A Dog?
Episode Date: May 27, 2021This week we goss bout the Friends reunion, Tessa Thompson, Rita Ora and Taika Waititi's spicy all nighter, A-Rods Make-up line, KJ Apa becoming a father, special info on TOM CRUISE IN SPACE and the n...ew Willy Wonka. And In Conspiracy Corner; Are celebrities stuck in a Hunger Games style scandal lottery? Did a singer snort a line of coke live on Eurovision? Also, we got THE LIST! AND BLIIIINDS!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7PodcastKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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You know when you get a song in your head, and you only know a tiny phrase of the song,
and you don't know the song, you don't know the name of it, you don't know who sings it,
and I have had four weeks stuck in my head, and I believe, that's it.
I didn't know any of the other words.
And I was like, what is it?
And I would look it up.
And I'd be like, I know it's a 90s song.
And I would put an I believe.
Yeah, I believe is impossible.
The phrase I believe is in many, many songs.
and I found it.
I finally fucking found it.
And I'm sad, though, because it is a Christian rock song
by the band, Blessed Union of Souls,
who I did, I loved Blessed Union of Souls.
But then I listened to the whole song
and I got upset because it starts with,
Walk blindly to the light
and reach out for his hand.
His hand.
Don't ask any questions
and don't try to understand.
open up your mind and then open up your heart and you will see that you and me aren't far apart
because I believe that love is the answer and I believe that love will find the way
and I'm very proud of myself.
Thank you Jackie's brain for helping me find it.
In reality, it was one of the Spotify playlists that they gave me.
They're like, oh, you listen to a bunch of 90s songs, you old, old woman.
Remember this Blessed Union of Soul song?
And I was in the car and was like, yeah, that's it!
And I screamed to myself and I had to share it with you.
Welcome to page seven.
Welcome.
I'm coming from the opposite to.
Raction, Jackie.
Why?
Because I, yesterday, on our way to the doctor, to get a little peek at our delicious baby coming on the way.
A disgusting, completely disgusting in how you just said it.
A delicious, succulent baby that's on the way.
And I put on the stereo.
I was like, oh, I want to give this a shot.
And I put on Olivia Rodriguez album.
Oh my God, welcome to the year holding.
Yeah, she's on everything.
I just, I was listening to Teen Beats, as recommended by.
Jackie on my way here.
Dude teen beats.
She's everywhere.
I only heard the song
by watching the S&L sketch.
Driver's license is great.
Sour is great.
It had two things I loved.
The Snell sketch.
It had Rageet.
Fuck, I'm gonna fuck his name.
Jean-Jet Jolz-Voset.
It's close.
Oh, the Rake himself.
From Bridgerton.
The Rake.
The Duke is a rake.
We all know that.
He's in the sketch
and they mentioned Taylor Swift's
fantastic songwriting in the sketch.
So I was like, oh, I have to see what it's all about.
These are two things I'm in love with that I'd like to make love with.
Taylor Swift's songwriting and Rajajajat.
Sharn. Sharn. Sharn.
Now he's Irish.
And he's a rake.
He's a rake.
And so I was like, oh, you know, and then the album came out.
I saw like pitchfork reviewed it.
I was like, Jesus, it's everywhere.
And so I put it on.
And I think I'm a 17-year-old girl, like, trapped in a grown-ass man's body.
Welcome, bro.
Fucking welcome.
I think it's great.
I really liked it.
I think it's great.
And people that are like, yeah, I guess it's good for people that are like 17 to go through
a breakup.
I'm like, um, I just like, it made me tear up a little bit.
I have cried twice while listening to driver's license.
Because it reminds me of that time.
It reminds me of those times.
Why can't, why is, why are people unable?
This is my problem with the world right now.
Why are people unable to regress?
Like, people like have to be the age they're at now and like they can't
connect to anything even though it was like them at some point.
It's like you remember fucking being like this, bro.
Don't act like you weren't going through a heartbreak or forlorn.
In my sense case, I'm jealous of the song in a way because I never got to go through a
breakup at 17 riding around in my car.
I just got to think about what love might possibly be like at B.
That's why teen love songs will always have a special place in my heart because I did not
know teen love.
Yeah.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe it's a rest of development a little bit or something or like whatever.
but still listening to that, I'm like, dude, I remember how that felt.
What you, what you old codger, you don't remember how you felt.
I feel bad for old ass you.
I remember what it was like to be 17.
I love that.
Olivia Rodrigo, you fucking captured it in a bottle, girl, and I think you're great.
So whatever, I guess I'll, like, learn how to play your songs on piano and sing them to my baby.
Can you learn how to play it and I'll sing them with you?
I'm probably going to learn how to at least play driver's license.
But I like a mini, I like quite a few.
Also, I love winning album.
And this is such a 17-year-old thing, right?
because she's got like two things in her life, right?
She's got like a TV show she likes and this breakup.
So that's what we're singing about, right?
So the whole album is just that.
The whole album is just the breakup.
Right.
And it's awesome.
Like, yeah, fuck it.
Let's just tell every angle of this one part of my life because you're 17.
And things are so much simpler.
And I'm jealous of that.
And I love your album because of that.
So take that old.
Hell yeah.
I just literally looked up Olivia.
Look, I typed in,
Olivia Rodrigo, the first thing that came up from the Washington Post, why millennials can't
just let ourselves enjoy Olivia Rodriguez? And I'm like, maybe that's what got me on this tangent
because other people have given me that same sentiment when I was like, driver's license is a fucking
bop. It's not a bop, but it's like a slop. You know what I mean? It is a sloap. Right? And,
you know, it's like, why? Yeah, why can't you just enjoy it? It's fucking great breakup song.
Fuck it. I love breakup songs. Anyways, I'm done. I loved it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
Thank you for this platform.
I think that we're in a, it's funny because on the one hand, right, you, people are like,
you like the music that the teens make, you're a millennial, wow, get over it.
Geriatric millennial, by the way.
You are, yes, you are.
I'm a regular millennial.
We are both regular.
Thank you.
You're super geriatric.
Thank you.
Whatever.
But also, obviously, millennials are just obsessed with recreating our childhoods because everything,
is, hence the friends reunion,
everything is of reaching back
to what I'm so upset about this.
How dare you bring it up to me?
Can I be any more upset about it?
Yes.
Without a proper warning.
I'm never going to stop laughing at those jokes.
And I honestly think that we might be coming
from different places on this.
I think you and I have had polar opposite
emotional experiences on this, Jackie.
With the show friends, I need to say it.
I was a big friends person.
Same.
My sister and I would watch it together.
I watched it every day.
day when it was in syndication.
I've seen every single episode multiple times.
It was one of those shows.
That and Gilmore Girls that when I went to college and I was sad, I would be alone.
I'd throw in a disc of friends because it was something that would comfort me.
However, how much money did HBO Max put into this Friends reunion?
I'm not even saying like, fuck this, fuck all of it.
What I'm saying is, is they are pushing it so hard.
To the extent that I've gone full circle where it's like, who cares?
This is the thing.
This is the thing, right?
Wait, MJ, do you care?
Because you have a smile of someone that is.
Yeah, do you care?
This is what I'm saying.
We had, like, if we grab our emotions, if you grab our emotions, my emotions upon reading
your email was like, yeah, fucking Friends reunion, Jesus Christ, why is everybody always
talking about Friends?
Yes, I watched it religiously when it was.
live. I don't think I ever watched it in syndication. Good for you. It was on every day for two
hours. That's four episodes a day. And I get it because I also like to watch the same shows over
and over. I've seen every episode of Law and Order SVU probably 15 times. Like I, and so I just,
for whatever reason, that wasn't my show, like Arrest the Development or whatever, but it wasn't
friends. But so I loved it. And then I was like, I spent the last five to 10, maybe even longer.
Like in college, I think I was like annoyed of people for watching friends. I was like,
there's better stuff out there, people.
I get it.
And I have been like, anti.
And then I watched the HBO trailer.
No, you didn't.
And I got a little emotional.
No, you didn't.
I think I'm going to watch it.
I think I might like it.
Okay.
I should watch the trailer with Lexi because I was going to just chime in and say, yeah.
I was always a Seinfeld guy, less of a friends guy.
I didn't like hate on friends.
Like, I watched Friends even, but I was definitely like, take it or leave.
I also understand people that hated it.
I understand people that are very excited about the reunion.
I think that is great.
Yes.
I do.
But it's just the way that they're pushing it.
To the extent that Matthew Perry has his own friends merch line with things just, oh my, that it's just too far, MJ.
It's just too far.
I don't know.
I think I want to get a shirt that says, could I be any more vaccinated?
I'm pro.
Take my eyes out.
All right.
If you wanted to talk about that, I was just going to, I was really quickly just going to say,
but I live with an ex-friends, like, fanatic.
She has the full DVD box set, yada, yada, yada.
And I feel like it has weirdly worn off the mystique.
Like she could kind of give a fuck about some friends these days.
To the point where I haven't heard a damn thing from her about this reunion.
Maybe she doesn't know it exists.
How does she not?
You guys can talk about the rollout.
I don't know.
Everywhere.
She's like, it's kind of.
turned into a me thing. But yeah, going to
the Matthew Perry shirt thing,
I will say, though, first of all,
I'm starting to see you articles where
you talk about backlashes on social
media. And this is definitely a great case
for that, because it was definitely like, they
pulled three tweets. One of the tweets
was just an anti-fucking Vax
tweet fuck faces, so it's not even like
mad at him for cap. And at the
same time, it's like, he's not capitalizing
on the deaths of a bunch of people. He's trying to
promote vaccination. I'm not
upset about that. I don't get that. I'm not upset about
that could I be any more vaccinated?
I'm so over there like so many people died and you're trying.
No, it's just a vaccinate.
It's just shut up.
You know where I draw my line is when you sell a doggy bandana that says could I be any more of a dog?
Ha ha ha.
How dare you, Matthew Perry?
What do you mean?
That's funny.
That's funny.
It ferriates me.
Can I be any more of a dog?
I just needed 20 years off.
Now apparently I'm back.
I'm laughing at Matthew Perry's shit.
I want to watch the fucking special.
But Lexi spent the last 20 years on, so now she's off, you know.
What's the special?
What is it?
Is it an actual episode?
Or is they just hanging out and like watching friends?
No, they, it's a whole thing.
There's an absolute, there's interviews with like Malala.
There's interviews with people that like love friends.
There's interviews with BTS talking about how they learned how to speak.
English while watching friends.
I've actually heard that from several people.
Which that's awesome. I think that's fucking cool as shit.
But then, don't worry, guys, I was.
It's James Corden that's going to run the interviews while they all sit on the couch.
You know the couch I'm talking about.
And they talk about their time on friends.
Fine.
I'm fine with all of these things.
It's just, can I be any more of a tired old bitch?
I guess.
Oh, okay, yeah, I wish they had those shirts.
That's, oh, I would wear that in a second.
I want a show that says in the KKK font,
I want a shirt that says,
could it be any more of a white boy slumber?
No, please don't.
With the white supremacist's font,
but the little colored dots in between.
You have to mix the two concepts together.
And then you can just send your money directly to Matthew Perry,
who did not write the episodes,
But Matthew Perry should get that money.
And it is like, I feel sad because everyone does look, I mean, they look like they've all had their, you know, fair share of work done.
And Matthew Perry really does, he has aged.
And he's gone through a lot and I know that.
But the picture, really, though, please look at Matthew Perry's merch site.
The picture of him in the could I be any more vaccinated shirt giving a thumbs up haphazardly, he looks like.
he can barely stand on his own
where it's like, why did you just stuff him in this
shirt? And I was like, just stand there.
Can we just get one picture, Matthew?
Open your eyes. Can you open your eyes just for a second?
And that's what it looks like.
So who would you say held up the best?
Rachel.
Just in the whole...
Rachel?
She doesn't look like she's aged a single day.
Neither does Lisa Kudrow.
Lisa Kudro. Yeah, Lisa.
Kudro. Yeah, actually, I revised my answer.
Lisa Kudro.
Because with Rachel looks like she see the work,
Whereas Cudra, even if she's gotten the work, I don't quite see it.
I feel like in terms of like careers, I was thinking all afternoon about this and what a curse it must have been to be on that very successful show.
Because obviously none of them, basically, none of them have been able to recover.
Like, not a one.
I mean, Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston, but Lisa Cudrow did pull some fun shows that I really liked.
But she was always my favorite.
And the comeback, which was, I think, also on each other?
The comeback was like so good.
I think I mentioned this on the show before.
I was so good I had to stop watching it because it was, it's about like a, like a
has-been actor, like a one-hit wonder actor trying to come back.
And it's so good that it was like viscerally painful.
And just for me, like, and I was like, I can't do this.
But like, I feel like she has made it through.
And you're right.
Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston have both had careers.
I guess I say they haven't,
nobody's been able to recover in the sense
that they've never been able to get out of the shadow.
The only other shadow Jennifer Aniston has ever been under
is like nobody wants to marry her, you know?
Right, or the Brad Pitt that she was once married to Brad Pitt
and famously cheated on, yeah.
She kind of, yeah, with the accent.
I feel like Jennifer Aniston's kind of a tragic figure
in terms of how she's covered because it's just like,
oh, she's like the hottest girl on earth,
but why won't?
Why will she always be a love?
I do like it though because the poor,
the poor woman is to deal with the social media of that
when it's like, she's probably,
she's Jennifer fucking Anderson.
She doesn't want to be in a relationship.
She doesn't have to be a fucking relationship.
But you're right.
Every single rag magazine is just like,
she's brittle and dying.
Never look her in the eyes or you will turn to dust.
But then you see the women next to the men,
and it's, again, probably because of the amount of work.
but the women all look pretty good
and the men are like, yikes.
Matt LeBlanc's not looking too bad though
with the silver, yeah.
Yeah, he's a bit of a silver fox.
You're right.
I guess it's really mostly Chandler
and Ross looks the exact same just older.
We are lucky to still have Chandler.
Let's just say that.
We are lucky that we still get his,
him in existence as a human being.
We definitely are and I know that he went through
a lot of issues, which I imagine anyone that gets
that famous, that young will always go through
that.
I'm going to go ahead and say that's probably would have been my trajectory.
Oh yeah.
If I was on that show, if I was Chandler on that show, I think that would have, I don't know
how it would, if I was just that set up that young and knowing that I do enjoy the drugs
the way I do.
Speaking of Blokane, can we just say it real fast?
Do not do cocaine right now.
Please hear me.
please listen to me as a former party girl and also a current lover of lots of drugs,
please don't.
So many people are dying right now.
It is being cut with way too much fentanyl and people are just dying.
And I hate to say it.
I know it's the beginning of but summer.
But please don't do cocaine anytime soon.
Yeah, yeah.
This is, by the way, coming from Jackie, we literally used to call her ski ski.
She literally would be like, are you going to the slopes today?
I was like ski free.
Ski fall.
What was that one where you would jump over thing?
She called her breasts her slopes.
It was a whole situation.
So take it from her.
It's not a good scene right now.
If that is not realistic for you, if you will not stop or can't stop
or if you don't do it but you're around a lot of people who do,
in any case, no matter what, get a training on how to use Narcan and carry Narcan with you.
because you can reverse an overdose and your local, like in New York, I'm thinking of
like vocal and a bunch of different organizations that like work with people who are drug
users who will like run training, run, you know, every major city I think will have trainings
from orgs like this about how to inject Narcan, how to use it safely.
And so if you do, if you're going to be around people doing cocaine or if you're going to do it
yourself, Carrie Narcan, but Jackie is right.
Don't do it right now. It's not safe.
There was just a tragedy here in New York, so just do not do it.
Please don't. And you can also, you can get it at CVS.
You can talk to the pharmacy behind the counter of how to administer it and how to safely watch someone after it's been administered.
I promise we will get back to our regular scheduled shitting on other pop culture things.
I just needed to say it.
Chandler lived, but we will die.
We have to remember.
And it's like it's no, the stigma, you know, there's a lot of, obviously a lot of
stigma around drug use and drug addiction.
And I think that Chandler was, and actually, for me at least, for millennials, I was like an early
example of that because everybody was watching friends and was like, what's going on?
But it was the 90s.
And so everybody was fucking shitty about drugs and was like, oh, what a moral failing,
as opposed to being like, he needs help, you know, like, he needs help, you know, like,
He, no, rather than just shoving him out of the spotlight
because he was making a bad name for the Friends show.
No, you needed help.
And seriously, take it from Jackie.
We used to call her the human blur.
Because you couldn't even see her.
She'd just be vibrating so much.
Yeah, you were like, oh my God, is there a, is there an out of focus lens on my eyes?
Right?
Like, what's going on? Why can I not?
Why is she out of focus right now?
I'm the NASCAR of bitches, people.
And in fact, that's how fast I got wet
While looking at the pictures of Rita Ora,
Tessa Thompson, and Tyco YTTT, the internet went aflame.
And this is the day after like an all night or party.
Like they clearly fucked all night and we're just having that next day like we were,
We did something bad.
That was my favorite part about it because there was no shade,
like whatever happened in the previous night,
They were still just riding the good vibe.
Nobody was like, oh, we shouldn't have done that.
Everyone was like, let's keep it going.
It's sunlight.
Yeah.
Well, and I don't think that's a scandal here.
It just looks like a loving couple brought in a super foxy lady for some shenanigans.
And I love that the puritanical viewpoints of our country is very much just like,
what?
Oh my God, three adults kissing each other.
Yeah, y'all.
Well, I saw that.
It was like, fucking get it, fucking get it.
I am sad that they were at a private party
and that those pictures had been taken from, you know,
somewhere that I imagine the paparazzi was hiding in a tree.
But, man, they looked like they had a fucking a blast.
Because Taika Waititi and Rita Ora have been dating for, I think, like six months or so.
And Tessa Thompson, my God, I can't take my eyes off of her.
How do we get the tape?
I know that we shouldn't get the tape
unless that is something that they can send to
and want to, but I will pay
with my soul
to watch the tape if they
would maybe gift it to me.
I'm just saying,
my soul holding.
I don't think I'd pay with my soul to see a
buck session.
You believe how dare you?
That is a Christian group of men.
Do not twist their words.
Bless the jars of clay or whatever the band is.
Would not want you to use their.
Blessing jars of clay.
I mean, it may as well be.
It's a hybrid of the two.
Lil Nas X every here.
Unbelievable.
In that context.
I just, I love a hot, funny heartthrob.
I love that Taika Waititi T.
It's such a heartthrob because he's so funny.
And I know that there have been funny heartthrobs in the past,
but like a very, very, very talented, funny.
Like, haughty.
It's such a joy.
It's just an absolute blessing.
Ooh, ooh, I'm dripping in Hachimachi right now.
Every time, Taiti, it's difficult to look at him.
Like, I talk about looking at him in a blur.
Every time I see him, I just, I melt.
And he's so talented.
Oh, ho.
Just, yeah.
We stand a talented, funny, fucking hot guy.
I think I've loved everything he's done.
So, yeah, including his penis.
Or, including on the wind
Where is the tape?
And speaking of Jen Jimon,
I know you weren't,
but I know you were thinking about
Jen Jimon right now.
What about Arod's makeup line
that he's coming out with?
Now, what I like is that the internet
is turning this
as if he decided to do this
against J-Lo,
who released a beauty line earlier this year.
Yeah, for men,
is it for men?
And also like, I don't think that that's what's happening.
But it's very funny.
I think this is very interesting.
I mean, it makes me a little freaked out because I'm just like, y'all, it is the weirdest
trick.
I feel like on society that women have had to just everyday deal with this sort of thing.
And I feel like I've gotten away with murder by not having to think about makeup application
for all of my life.
So it does terrify me that this will become normalized and I will have to
start using foundation.
It's great.
But at the same time,
it's good to equalize it.
I'm just also terrified because I just,
now I have to add a, how long is it take?
You don't have to do nothing.
Honestly, ever since the mask started,
I don't want to really put makeup on at all anymore.
Because I'm like,
it's just going to come off.
What is it fucking matter?
You know, every time you get on the Zoom call
and you're not wearing makeup, Jackie.
I was going, oh!
Should I start doing it to you, Holden?
You all these are going, oh, oh, where's his blur stick?
Hey, Ron!
Where's your hymns?
My favorite part of the article is when it refers to makeup and quotes.
Like, A-Rod made makeup of men.
Like, you can't call it makeup, it's fucking makeup.
You put it on your face.
It's for guys.
It's the same thing as regular makeup.
It covers your scars.
Because men have scars to cover.
And like, knicks from shaving.
I feel the same way about makeup as I feel about razors, as I feel.
about razors as I feel about lots of things that people use, that I think that this is just
another way of like, why can't we just normalize makeup for people? Like, if you want to use
makeup, have some makeup. Like, isn't that great? But, like, why, I think it's a backwards
move at this point. Yeah, I think it's awesome. And at the same time, it's the laziness side of me
that's slightly upset. I'm the same. Because I know eventually it's going to be a thing that I'll just
But I will say also, I have a memory of a guy in my theater class,
like a straight guy in my theater class in college, by the way,
with a bunch of progressive people.
And I remember he showed up one day and like after like with some friends was like,
he's wearing eyeliner.
And it was like this, everyone got all like,
or at least the people I was with were being all judging on him.
No, hot as shit.
For like wearing eyeliner.
You know, well this is, and this is college, early 2000s.
Yeah, geriatric millennial.
Yeah, the geriatric millennial over here.
And I look back in that and I'm like, man, we were being fucking dicks.
You know what I mean?
So, like, I'm glad that it's normalized.
And actually, you know, and even to the point where the term guy liner is like, why does it have to be guy liner?
It's just fucking eyeliner, you know, you don't have to like gender it just to make it like normalize it for men.
You know what I mean?
It's like, oh, baby.
My first crush, number one guyliner icon, you know.
It was that exact time period, the early 2000s where he was wearing eyeliner and everyone was like, what is this?
Is he gay?
What is happening?
Why does he have eyeliner up?
Why?
God, why?
Yeah, so it's good.
I'm glad it's happening
and at the same time.
I can't wait.
I don't want to wake up an extra 20 minutes
before work.
By work, I mean, sitting in my pajamas doing research.
This doesn't affect me at all, actually,
now that I think about it.
No, it really doesn't.
It's in a man tube for your man scratches
and you just put it on whatever your man wounds are.
I got manscape.
Have I used, been using it?
pretty much at all no, but I got Manscape.
So I will continue to look towards refining what you see here
into something more appreciated by.
The world.
We need more appreciation for you and your body, Holden.
I'm constantly saying that.
Give it up for Holden's body.
So did Jalo throw up until she died when she heard about this man makeup that her ex is using?
She's too fucking busy having sex with Ben Affleck.
He's having so much sex with Ben Affleck.
right now. She didn't go like, I'm gonna, you know, slam my head against this wall until he
discontinues his makeup line, Daddy or something like that. She didn't do that. No, she wasn't
freak out about it. Veronica from Riverdale. But speaking of, which I didn't include, I guess
congratulations goes out to KJ.EPA. MJ, did you know that he recently became a father?
KJ.EFA?
J.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E. De De De De De Dei. And I love it.
because I really appreciate everyone that hit me up about this,
that also included his TikTok videos as this man became a father.
And I really do implore you.
I don't know if I've ever told you guys to watch his TikToks before and or if you have ever.
But man, I kind of love how weird it is.
I think he's, I love a really weird stereotypically hot person.
He doesn't carry himself like he looks the way he does.
And I think that's a lot of fun.
I like that too.
I think that I just like people from New Zealand.
I get it.
I'm sure there's bad ones out there, but most of the ones that I have seen are great.
And KJ. Appa is an infuriating.
Oh, my God.
He plays an infuriating character in Archie Andrews.
Go get that ice cream.
I'm like, I haven't heard an ice cream truck in so long.
Well, that would make sense
Why they're not out here in L.A.
Well, you know who recognizes the sound of the ice cream truck now
is three-year-old Freddie Oliver now
Has not learned that you just hear that constantly
So now every single time she's like, hey, is that an ice cream child?
Oh my God.
Go look for it.
And that's what you make up weird thing.
You're like, no, that's the dead person car.
It makes the same sound.
But it's just filled with dead people
so don't go out there and don't come alive
and eat your eyes out.
People.
Yeah,
make her scared of the ice cream truck.
That's what you gotta do.
Yay,
yeah.
Yeah.
A sound that she'll hear all day,
every day for the next three months.
Some maniacal man driving around a bunch of dead people that come alive with children.
It's just ice cream.
It's just ice cream.
They wish to take your tongue.
And out.
Now,
now I do want to switch gears a little bit.
even though I love thinking about dead people, ice cream trucks.
But we had someone write in that I was so interested in what they had to say
that I want to read the email, not even as part of the shoutouts.
Because they wrote in as a person, remember last week when we were talking about the Tom Cruise space movie?
Yes.
And like all of the actualities of how that comes to be.
The race to die in space.
Yes. This person works in the space industry and is working on this project.
I cannot say their name.
However, they gave a little bit more background, at least a little bit of what this actually entails.
And so I wanted to share part of this with you guys.
Because I know that I shouldn't feel this way, but I feel like there's a lot of other ways you could, things you could pay for.
Rather than spending $55 million per person to get them into space.
Jesus.
All right.
I just want to throw this out.
I'm just going to read part of this because I was so fascinated by this.
So what this person said, the basics of the mission are the Tom Cruise and his co-passenger, Doug Lyman, who is the director, will fly as spaceflight participants.
note they are not astronauts.
This is an important distinction on a private space mission chartered by Axiom.
So apparently Axiom is buying space on a SpaceX crew dragon capsule, which will fly to the ISS.
So essentially what they said is think of Axiom like a tour company and SpaceX as the company that owns the tour bus.
And Axiom rents the buses as needed.
which makes a lot more sense.
Yeah.
So they continue on saying,
y'all brought up some really great points
about why space movies are kind of a weird concept,
namely that you can get pretty good quality CGI
for a fraction of the price of actually going to space.
To that point,
you are absolutely correct.
In fact,
the estimated cost to launch someone to space is $55 million.
That doesn't include the cost of accommodations in space.
Accommodations and spinole.
You got to get the hotel.
Yeah, all the day.
Like, they got to sit.
Like, you know, get the food and whatever.
all of the equipment and everything they have to get up there.
Yeah, dude.
And apparently they go on to say space tourism to the ISS isn't new, as there were missions in the 2000s, though they all launched on Russian spacecrafts.
One of these missions also included someone who tried to film a movie, but it wasn't nearly the same level as the Tom Cruise thing.
But also what they continued on in saying, one final point.
Since this mission is not a normal ISS resupply mission, there will likely.
be a lot of space on the capsule.
Most of this will likely be used for filming equipment and food and whatever, but the
spaceflight participants will be able to bring personal items up to the station.
Oftentimes, these personal items include fresh food.
And yes, that means that Tom Cruise could totally bring up some fish for his own personal
use.
He's going to go for fish in the mouth in outer space, and I don't know if I am flabbergasted in
fury or in honor?
I mean, I never thought about fucking in space.
But you know what, man, this does bring up some thoughts, right?
Because, I mean, I'm not talking about TH-H-O-T thoughts.
I'm talking about thoughts, T-H-O-U-G-H-T.
Not a lot of thoughts in space.
Yeah, you get me up in space, so you wait.
I'll get all the kind of thoughts.
All right, please, for a little second.
No, but, but yeah, talk about no motion in that ocean.
I mean, you are slow as a slug up there in that anti-gravity,
and I don't know if I would be able to get my jollies off very easily.
I don't think so.
Maybe it would be hot.
Maybe it would be like, oh, it's so slow.
Well, you've got all the stuff on, you know?
How are you going to feel anything under there?
Never to ask MJ for any sort of sex.
I'm just saying.
Maybe it'd be good, really slow and weird.
Oh, it's so slow.
It was the way that you, you so.
I've never heard an undersell so bad on your own advice.
So much equipment.
I'm so nauseous, you know.
Oh, yeah, baby.
This is just being so nauseous what I'm having said.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, baby.
This is so cumbersome.
There's all this dry food around here.
I don't think that I would want to fucking space,
but I guess, you know, given the opportunity,
I know that we've talked about this,
You both said that you wouldn't go to space.
Zero percent chance.
No.
No, yeah.
It would have to be so, we'd have to be living in the future, essentially.
It'd have to be so normalized.
As soon as something's like bog standard and normalized, like flying, for instance, right?
I mean, like, yeah, you get freaked out flying, but like you shouldn't.
You know what I mean?
And if spaceflight got to that point, maybe, but as it stands now, absolutely not.
I would just puke.
I would puke everywhere.
I can't do it.
I wouldn't peek everywhere.
I'd just be like, what am I doing?
I feel trapped in this little vessel.
How long is it going to take to get back home?
A decade?
What's happening?
Oh, I guess I'll just die on Mars.
Wow, that sounds cool.
You want to watch Aniara.
You want a great, bleak, sci-fi, space movie.
Aniara.
Is that the one where they're just like floating until they die?
Is that the one?
Maybe.
Such a fun sell for that one.
I was like, yeah, that sounds like my absolute living nightmare.
So maybe I'll skip it out.
I cried for days.
but like in a fun way
and I'm also going to cry for days
most likely after I watch
Timothy
be cast as Willie fucking Wonka
All right
a couple of things here
So I first of all
It is another Cruella
It is an origin story for Willie Wonka
That makes it slightly more interesting
And actually I'm slightly on board
Because I didn't know until I looked at it
Because I saw Jackie
Sometimes you hear Jackie
When you read her email
You literally hear her screaming in your ear
You're like
And you are
I was almost on board.
I was like, yeah, fuck this shit.
And then I went in and I was like, oh, it's the director who did the Pannington movies.
I have heard tale that I should watch the Paddington movies.
I have heard tale.
I'm going to admit, also I haven't seen them, but apparently Paddington 2 is the,
it actually motivated that seeing this makes me actually, I need to finally sit down and watch.
Especially Paddington 2 is apparently like one of the best movies of the last decade.
Really?
Yeah.
Yes.
I've been told many times to watch them.
Apparently Paddington, too, is incredible.
Really?
It's like, yeah, it's that movie that I just have not set down to watch that is apparently just the fucking best.
It's very like West Anderson inspired and this, that, and the other.
But apparently it is the shit's tits.
So definitely.
I mean, you know how I felt about Christopher Robin.
I know that has nothing to do with Paddington, but I'm just saying that if even my cold, mean heart can be changed to the idea,
oh, doesn't she want a red balloon?
Oh my God, Winnie the Pooh, you fucker.
Ooh, you little cute fucker.
But why are you so anti?
Is it Timothy Shalomey?
Or is it the origin story?
I mean, there's a lot of reason.
That it's redone for the millionth time.
I mean, I don't want to speak for Jack.
Jackie, you give us the lowdown, but I think I could guess.
It really is.
You know what, like, as Lori, Timothy,
amazing.
He is, I know he's an amazing actor.
He really is.
And that's not what my issue is.
Get someone that's more fun.
In my brain, if you're going to try to be Gene Wilder,
pick in the same way that I was upset about who they chose for the penguin in the R. Pats Batman.
Right.
Like, there's so many cool, amazing character actors.
Like, Tim Faye needs no help.
Yeah.
It was a great leading man.
I'm sure he wants other fun opportunities, but you're young and you're hot.
Like, you don't need, like, get someone that's cool.
Yeah.
Right?
Or that's, this would be his real test to see if,
he can really stretch past this certain thing that has been established.
And also I will say a couple things, right?
It's an origin story.
So maybe it's kind of about how he was once like a shallomay and then kind of became a J.
J.J.
in the wind.
Wilde.
Yeah, J. Jane in the wind.
And also, if anyone can do it, I think maybe this director can.
I think the funniest thing to me is this new trend where Joker, Cruella, Wonka.
That's the name of the new one.
Wonka.
So we're just going to do these one word names
and it's the same fucking movie concept.
How many more of these can we expect?
I think a fun thought experiment
which we've already played on this show, I believe,
is what are the next ones coming around the bin?
We talked about an Ursula.
I want to see an Ursula.
I want to write it.
I think that they're all really good ideas.
I think an origin story for Wonka is kind of fun.
Yeah, for sure.
To see how he gets there, I'm totally down.
Like, and even honestly, I'm going to go see the Cruella movie as well.
It's just.
I'm all about, but I also love Emma.
And I do.
And I, like, I'm sure that it will be fun.
And I'm not even naying on all of that.
It's just there's so many other things that we could do.
Or am I just being a nay nay?
No.
I think we're going to get a Vader soon.
I thought we already had that.
Didn't you and your stars have that already?
The prequels, but they're fucking god awful.
and so I think we'll get a Vader probably.
I'd love a riddler.
Sure.
That's what I'd love.
A riddler.
And you know, I want to watch all the people from Candy Lane.
Part of it is technically, you have to give it to some, now, and now they always have to do the Heath Ledger thing, right?
Where you give it to someone who's, like, seen in one light, and you're like, you're going to show them this whole other side of yourself.
It's so formulaic and it's so hilarious that this evil villain backstory approach to filmmaking is.
the new formula. What a weird
like God, guys, can we not
diversify in the things we release?
Do we have to just jump on these
trin trades and just
saturate them so terribly?
And then not even, like
give Wonka crazy name
the history of the origin
of the fantastical candy
man or something like that. Don't
just say Wonka. It's what everyone else is doing.
Yeah. I do go back
and forth because sometimes I'm like
enraged by the fact that there
is like that everything is just like, what if we did it again?
But then sometimes I'm like, ooh, but this time it's a good idea.
And that was the roller coaster I went on with Wonka.
I was like, stop making the same thing over and over.
And then I was like, ooh, an origin story.
And see, this is a thing.
So this is in the same time period.
So I think that I have yelled towards you guys about this.
And you know I love Riverdale, but they are doing the same thing on the CW.
They're doing the same thing with the Powder Puff girls.
Yeah.
So they released the pilot.
and now they are reworking completely the live-action powderpuff girls that they're doing for CW
because apparently the pilot was quote too campy.
So then what are you going to do with it?
So all right, you don't want it to be Riverdale.
That is a step in the right direction.
But then what are you going to do with it?
You know, like in the same vein.
Yeah, with the power puff girls.
I don't know.
Well, I didn't grow up enough with the Powerpuff girls.
Like they were definitely in my vicinity for sure.
I definitely watched some.
But I mean, it's like, I guess in order to figure out what to do with it,
you'd have to figure out what makes Power Pop Girls great in the first place.
Which I guess what makes Power Pop Girls great in the first place is it's these strong little
girl characters that can be like icons for a young girl, young anyone.
And but it's also this, it is campy, right?
It's all like giant robots attack the city and, you know, they defend it.
And it's like old school, yeah, it's like old school superhero tropes,
modernized with this fun angle.
So what do you do with the adults doing it in a live action?
Are they supposed to be little girls?
They are little girls.
And then I think that I believe that it follows them grown up.
Oh, well, so that could be interesting.
Every time I'm like, oh, that's got a fun.
This is the thing.
This is.
If you took that instead, but you'd have to like let the thing mature a little bit.
And I don't know if they're allowed to do that with the property.
But yeah, if you made it so that you almost give it the Dark Night Return Stream.
And I'm talking about the comic book Dark Night, not the film Dark Night.
And they're like getting too old for this shit.
And they're like coming back for one last, you know, hazah.
Or like how, you know, or if you took it in the vein of like, now they have to deal with their like brand and their social media presence.
And it's all weighing on them.
And then they like, and it's all about how they're negotiating being famous and being superheroes.
The fact what I like is just reading a review of the powder puff girls written by a big fan of the original powder puff girls that said that like I don't mind the premise.
Just take the Powerpuff girls.
I'm sorry, I keep saying Powder puff.
I always say Powder puff.
The Powerbuff girl label off of it because that is part of it is that like they were still allowed to be kids.
They still had a bedtime.
They love their dad.
But now they're making it as like they're grown up and they're pissed off that they spent their whole childhood.
fighting crime,
when in reality,
part of the happiness
of Powerpuff girls is like,
but they, like, still had fun.
Ah, uh-huh.
So it does kind of fuck
with the entire idea of it.
But doesn't Riverdale do that too, right?
Like, isn't Riverdale, like, Riverdale,
like, Riverdale literally a name only?
Like, they have...
Right.
Like, there's nothing about Riverdale
that resembles Riverdale.
Although, you say that,
but then even in the time jump and everything,
like, when Archie comes back from war,
There's a whole line of comics of when Archie goes to war.
Like, he's like pulled from it.
There's a lot of, and I wish I had read the comics because we would be watching
and Gideon, who knows a little bit more about the comics, would be like,
oh, yeah, this thing that makes no sense to us as viewers happened because this is a reference
to a comic, right?
And so I think, right, and at River, I don't, but in terms of, so, but in terms of like
the tone, right?
Right.
In terms of the feeling.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no.
It's not just like, there's juggett eaten burgers.
It's like, no, Jugged was tripping nuts and was handcuffed to his desk inside of his sex bunker.
And now what's going to happen?
You know, it's like, and those are actual things that happen in Riverdale, which is why we love Riverdale.
It comes back in August, baby.
And it has nothing to do with the tone of the original.
And so I feel like we are, we have entered a kind of like death of the author.
era where it's just like
you just use something as a prompt
and then like Riverdale is the prompt
the characters and it's again it's not like
there isn't connections because there are
but it's just like what if Riverdale was like really
dark and sexy this is like powder puff girls
but what if it was dark and sexy
and I hate it
I'm going to watch it yes of course I'll watch it
is that because the Riverdale ladies
dressed as them for Halloween
and they were like there it is give it a million dollars
surprisingly that's not where it came
from but you are correct they
did do that.
I don't think that they could helm two different CW franchises at the same time,
but I would love to watch him try.
All right, so here's my pitch for Villan Origin Story cartoon movies or whatever movies
coming out.
Live action, actually, I guess they have to be.
Okay, first of all, my favorite Disney movie, let's take it from Sword and the Stone,
Mad Mad, Mad a Mim.
I want to know about that fucking OG story, bro.
Mad, Mad Mad of M is my shit, dude.
I will fuck with that all day.
You've referred to me as her multiple.
times by the way. Yes, I love
and that is a loving referral.
I love Mad Madameh. I love
Sword and a Stone, my favorite.
I love it so much.
After that, I would say
the obvious one would be Lion King, Scar.
Yeah, I can't believe that hasn't happened.
But I think the real risky one
that they should do because it would be the greatest
trick ever pulled. The
Hunter from Bambi.
Oh, don't you dare humanize
that fucker.
I love M.J's just
That'd be good.
That'd be fucked up.
How fucked up would that be?
Like, give him weirdly
some sort of, like,
motivation that makes sense
by the end.
It would be so crazy.
Like, like, mother deer,
like, killed his whole family
somehow and, like,
and so now he murders every deer
experience.
Especially the mothers.
And we'll call it the deer hunter.
No!
And it starts with a wedding.
But, like,
what was one of the best movies
of my,
one of my favorite movies,
movies of my childhood, Hook, right?
Like, I guess that's all to say.
We've been doing this for a while.
Oh, yes.
Like, right now it feels like, oh, we literally only recycle things that have already
existed.
But, like, Hook is the best movie ever.
And what hit me even more recently that I'm surprised doesn't get attributed for being
the first is Maleficent.
Yeah.
Of course, they've been doing this.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Are you referring to Hook, the brilliant 1991 movie that has a 29% on rotten tomatoes.
It's so good.
29%
I saw it in the movie theater with my dad.
I absolutely loved it.
A classic for this man.
Rotten Tomatoes is a swat.
Such a good movie.
29%.
What?
And this is such a good conspiracy.
Hit me.
Do you believe in?
The idea that all celebrities are knowingly
in a hunger game type simulation.
Yeah.
This is an interesting one.
This is a fan conspiracy there.
This comes in from Rachel who says,
Hello!
I love you all, but especially Holden.
I love his dulcid features.
I love his eyes.
He's making it up.
I love his smile.
He's clearly the most intelligent and friendly.
Wait a way to take.
All right.
She didn't say any of that.
Now, she said, I love you all and had a weird revelation while listening to
you discuss Ben Affleck and all of his antics this month.
Forgive me if you have already talked about this and I'm having some brain fog.
How would we have ever talked about this, Rachel?
But it got me thinking, what if celebrities are chosen each month or whatever time frame
to be that topic of interest.
See, you bring this up all the time, Holden.
Don't you naysay on, Rachel?
Do I?
Do I?
Forgive me if you've already mentioned this,
but what if it's all a simulation?
What is all a simulation?
I'm like, what the fuck?
I mean, I've thought about it all being a simulation before,
but I've never actually just spoken about it on page seven.
They get picked by a name out of a hat or like jury duty.
They get a card in the mail.
Like, congratulations, it's your turn to be the talk of the town.
and then that celebrity has a story come out about them
and they have to deal with the paparazzi media
for however long it is.
Once their time is up, another person gets picked.
So this is something, especially after watching a lot of the crown,
I could see people coming up with for the royal family almost.
And then they're free for another year,
but bam, after that free year,
their name or number could be picked at any time.
The Ben Affleck stories sparked this
because we have seen his name in the news for other things,
but now it just seems like it's the early 2000s again
and who would just...
follow him around for the fun of it.
He seems, um, a little outdated.
Just a thought and would like to hear your take on this conspiracy that popped into my
brain.
Thank you so much for all the great content, Sierra Rachel G.
I mean, yeah, I can really see that.
A, we watched how bad they floundered during, uh, COVID unexpected.
I think that they had no idea how to keep the hype train rolling.
We couldn't figure out how to keep the hype train rolling on celebrity stuff for a,
for a hot minute there.
Uh, and then on top of it, you're right.
It is odd.
It's like why?
And especially right now when the nostalgia thing,
oh,
the nostalgia thing's so big.
So like we want to,
when everything else,
you know,
all the studios are like,
remember the early 2000s?
Remember the early 2000s?
Here's, you know,
remember saved by the bell?
Remember this and that?
And then of course,
now they're bringing nostalgia
into celebrity fucking culture.
I like this.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Why is it like weird?
Like, and this keeps happening lately
where people are doing this sort of.
thing where it's like, remember this thing?
It's back.
Yeah, they're like back on the chopping block.
My God, it makes sense of why friends is being hyped so much.
Yes.
100%.
So actually, I didn't believe you, Rachel, until I just put that connection together.
So I'm more thankful that I put my own connection together than you presiding me
this theory, but I still agree with you.
And thank you for all those nice things you said about me.
I didn't actually say about me.
Do you think it's also why Lindsay Lowand is going to be in that Netflix movie?
Yes, there's the Lindsay.
that was on the list and we didn't even talk about Eurovision at all.
No, and I watched so much Eurovision, but I do need to say just real quick, that really
seems like that guy was doing a line of cocaine off the goddamn table.
Can I just throw that out there?
And the press of it, he's just like, uh, I don't do cocaine.
And then he jumped up on his feet and did this weird frantic dance move.
It was like, ah!
And then sat back down and he was like, I don't do cocaine.
I don't do drugs.
And I'm like, wait, wait.
Wait a second.
You just did the most I'm on cocaine thing
you could have done just then.
You literally jumped on your chair
and made a crazy weird
Tom Cruise on a couch on a set of Oprah thing
move.
Yes, and sorry.
I think now that you did cocaine.
Randomly throw that in there.
But look up if you don't watch Eurovision
and I paid a lot closer attention this year
because I've never really gotten too far into it before
and now I'm fucking into it.
It's awesome.
Now I completely get it.
And the, I think it's pronounced Monskin.
Monskin.
It's a Dutch word.
Uh-huh.
That is these Italian rock and rollist band that won Eurovision.
But there is clearly a picture of the lead singer.
Or a little video.
Rail, doing a rail right off the table.
It's just they're all sitting there.
They're like celebrating.
He just like, he definitely does the bend his head down, do the rail kind of motion.
But he claims that it's because his band.
member broke a glass and he was looking for glass on the table.
But...
I mean, it's not normal to do cocaine with a bunch of cameras on you.
Usually.
Yeah, but if you just won Eurovision, you know...
There's also a video of them, like, walking to the stage and he's clearly just, like,
rubbing the fuck out of his nose, like, he just did a line of cocaine.
So there is also that video.
I don't know.
I could go either way on this, because I was actually based on a similar situation, I was
accused of doing cocaine and almost got kicked out of my London study abroad for.
it. This is the other thing I know about cocaine. I don't know if it's changed. This is weird
that cocaine is coming up. Back in my day, when I was accused of doing it, I was like,
please give me a test. I've literally never done cocaine in mine fucking entire life. And they were
like, oh, we can't because the turnaround for that drug is fast. So when he, and the article
was like, oh, do a test as soon as they get back to Italy. It's days later. Yeah, that's what I've always
heard is like, it doesn't go on. And I was like, unless the science has changed behind drug testing for
cocaine. I'm pretty sure he sort of missed his window for that and that was all
bullshit him being like, I'll take a test, I'll take a test. But I will say that
apparently Eurovision did confirm that broken glass was found under the table.
But it is just, it's weird to look for glass with your hand up to your face, with your face
down at the table. I've never looked. Say you lost a contact. Honestly, it looks like he could be
looking for a contact. I feel like that is the closest thing.
The difference is bending your knees to go down
as opposed to bending at the waist.
Yeah.
The bending at the waist is a real cocaine.
Well, it's a perfect little, yeah.
Well, also, I think the move that to me,
and at the end of the day, it's impossible
I convince somebody in an insane asylum that you're sane.
But even just the way he's like,
I don't do drugs, no drugs, I don't do it.
Like, the way he was about it was like so cocaine-y.
I don't know how to describe it.
Like, it was such a drug addict telling people.
Yeah, it's like the same way for, you know, of like, yeah, I'm being asked, you know,
to like take it easy on the drinks during the, you know, family get together.
It's like, I've been fucking drinking.
I barely have, I have four, I have seven drinks.
You know what I mean?
Is this that weird?
Yes, I'm touching my nose.
Look, I'm dodging my nose.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
It's that weird defensiveness that you see, uh, from people who have maybe an issue.
Anyway, so you guys believe that we're in a simulation or whatever.
Fucking yes.
I'm down.
I'm down.
Thanks, Rachel.
Greatly appreciate it.
There you go.
Back to you, Jack.
Back to me, and it's back to shout, shout it all out.
We need all the things that you need about.
Come on.
We're going to read out to you.
Come on.
Our first one goes out.
I want to say thank you again to our secret inside space intel.
and because it makes me feel really cool,
like I am that much closer going to space,
even though I'm never probably going to go.
But I also want to give a shout out
to beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, Catherine
from Rachel, because Rachel's wife,
Catherine loves the show,
and Catherine is turning 27 on Monday.
And Rachel goes on to say,
if anyone deserves a shout out, it's Catherine.
She's a beautiful, hilarious boss bitch in the best way possible that cares too deeply about her family, her work and her impact.
She's a school psychologist, which means that she works with schools to make sure that students that require special education services get what they need to be as successful as they can throughout school.
She cares so much about the children that she works with.
And I love hearing about all the ways she ensures that her kiddos are getting accurate services.
We love you guys so much
and happy birthday, Catherine!
You sound amazing and I wish I had someone like you
in my school when I was growing up.
Because those were definitely in the days
where they didn't give a fuck.
But you guys and people like UMJ
are changing the school system
and I appreciate it.
Or at least trying to.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday, Catherine!
And I've got another very special shout-out
for another amazing amazing.
partner named Abby, who is graduating this year from the School of Visual Arts.
She just got her degree in animation and already has a job in an animation studio here in New York,
and I'm so proud of her.
This comes from Kristen, who met them on the very first day of class at SVA in an anatomy
drawing class.
Abby was the one that introduced me to the last podcast network, and I've been an avid listener
since last January.
I literally never stop.
I'm constantly listening to the backlog of episodes
while working on assignments or whatever.
So thank you guys so much,
and I hope you're all doing well.
And we love you, Kristen.
And congratulations, Abby.
You guys are doing it, doing it, doing it.
And apparently Abby emailed about Kristen's birthday in March.
So it's a gives these backseason.
And it makes me so hapsies.
I'm sorry.
I said it.
I did say that.
And I can't take it back.
I can't fucking take it back.
and I wouldn't take it back.
And what I would take back is this pandemic
from ruining or trying to ruin beautiful Emily
who had a horrible fucking time this past year
and I just wanted to say that I give you my love,
I send you my love if you hear me talking about you
and your gold sequin jumpsuit.
You should go put it on.
You should go put it on and you know what?
Fuck it if it fits or not.
Or get one in a bigger fucking size
because you, goddamn, deserve it.
Because all of us is someone that is currently having to re-buy lots of clothing after the pandemic,
I got to say.
And not for fun reasons, but for my waist size.
There ain't no shame in it.
We all got through this fucking year, all right?
And we all used what we had to to get through the year.
And it better not be fucking cocaine.
Does everybody hear me?
It better not be cocaine.
But we love you, Emily.
And we love all of you.
you guys and thank you so much for your shoutouts and you can totally write into page seven
podcast at gmail.com if you got any more insider information or if there's more you want to tell
us about because i love reading about it and it only um puts a pep in my step and thank you guys so much
for the love and um i send all of my love right back but right now we got a list to read
who's on the list Jackie got to have that list i'm going to also say that I'm going to also say that
I had a lot of people writing to tell me that they supported my list last week and that I wasn't too much.
And thank you very much for wanting to expand your minds.
That was disgusting.
Oh, also I forgot.
Sorry, someone wrote in that saw the Kermit performance.
Oh, my God.
I don't want to hear any more about that Kermit performance.
Oh, my God.
Someone actually saw it and said that it was done for comedy purpose.
and she did sing the entire
it's not easy being green
and down to the fact that he said
I'm pretty sure I saw them bow
in thanks afterwards
with the fist still inside her
No! So yeah I wonder if
now I guess my follow-up question
would have definitely been was it like a strained
performance or was it like a freed up
like orgasmic performance you know apparently it was delightful
like everyone loved it's noties
everyone was just
I mean was her performance
She was lip syncing.
Like, was her performance like, it's not easy being great?
Or was it like, it's not it.
I thought about you, Kermit.
No, she was lip syncing, so she didn't have to worry about it.
See?
Qualist performance every time.
There you go.
And, yeah, it was done for, I just like it because apparently,
so this person was working as a PA and it was a program for pride.
And no one knew what this performance was going to be.
No one was prepared for it.
So it was like watching the audience go from shock to laughter as it went through, which does make me like it even more, though.
All right.
I'm warming up to it now.
See, and thank you so, so much, David, for writing in and telling me about that because I was like,
you saw it.
Tell me everything.
And he did.
And I appreciate that.
And, but first, I apologize.
We got to do the list, which is strange inspirations for iconic pop.
Culture. Yes, it's a pop culture list. Don't worry. No more fisting conversations. No more.
Because we have other things to talk about. Like the fact that King Kong was inspired by a movie about
Komodo dragons. Yes. A 1926 expedition left the U.S. to capture Komodo dragons. And they did.
They filmed the whole thing too. The movie was a big hit at the time, as were the dragons. And
And Marion Cooper lifted parts of the story for King Kong.
Yeah, originally they wanted it to just be like a monkey fighting a Komodo dragon.
Really?
And it slowly became, yeah, yeah, it just slowly turned into this completely other thing.
But that's why you got all the dinosaurs in the movie and stuff like that.
Oh, see that?
Makes a lot of sense.
And you know what?
I love a Komoto dragon.
Ooh, they look so weak.
Yeah, I think they were like, hey, we can't actually do this.
This would be insane to just videotape a monkey fighting a Komoto dragon.
Maybe we should just like make it up instead, you know what I mean?
And sometimes you have to make up other things.
Like.
Okay?
You okay?
I was like, how do I transition to the next one?
You could hear it going, e, e, e, e, e, e, e, yeah, yeah, Jackie.
You could make up anything.
You could make it up.
That's, yeah, sure.
And sometimes life is lived in other ways,
such as Peter Sellers based on...
Oh, whoa!
That's the one I was going to read, too,
that Peter Sellers based
Dr. Strangelove's voice
on a little known photographers.
Sellers couldn't figure out
what voice to do for Dr. Strange Love,
so he eventually based it on the kind of
strangled-sounding voice of the
photographer, Ouija,
whose sellers had heard around the set.
And I don't know if that's how you actually say
Ouija, but I really can't imagine
unless it's Wege, but you
absolutely never know.
This one's really cute, and it's probably why I chose it because I really love Gizmo very much.
And that the design of the Gremlins was based on Japanese chin dogs.
And if you look up Japanese chin dogs, they're so fucking cute.
And they do look like the Magwai's.
They super look like the Giz.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's really cute.
That's so cute.
I like that one.
And speaking of the Joker, which I think that everybody who's anybody knows this,
but Joaquin Phoenix did base the Joker's laughing on an actual disorder.
In the movie, he can't control when he erupts into laughter,
so he carries a card that explains his condition.
That's based on a real condition.
Pseudo-Bulber aggression.
Wow.
Which makes sufferers laugh or cry uncontrollably.
Oof, God.
Laugh or cry uncontrollably.
I think I'd actually rather cry uncontrollably than laugh uncontrollably.
I guess.
I honestly don't know.
that makes even just a thought
I cry a lot and I can't imagine crying more
but did you know
that Michael Jackson's smooth criminal
was based on CPR training
materials? Which I did
know. I did not know that
but I mean of course I'm going to say
that the alien ant farm
version was based on CPR training
materials but Annie is based
on rescuzzi Annie
or Annie a CPR doll
doll and asking are you
okay is one of the first steps to take before you administer CPR.
I think it's a bit of a long stretch.
But I guess that they are, that is interesting.
Yeah, I'll take it.
And last but not least, everybody knows I'm a star's head.
Yeah.
Because Ren Kylo's helmet in the rise of Skywalker drew on a Japanese practice.
It's called Kinsugi, and it involves repairing any cracks with visible material like gold or
silver so that the cracks become part of the object's history and not a defect.
And it makes you think of like when my mom would take my pants that had rips in them,
that I would want to have rips in them.
But what would she would do?
She would turn them inside out and put patches on underneath.
And then I'd be very mad about it.
So that's what it reminded me of, of my mom touching my pants.
Let me be covered in a hole, mom.
Good times.
She'll never understand me.
you know, look up Japanese
chin dogs. That's the list.
Well, I would look it up,
but I can't look at anything right now because I think
I'm going...
Blind!
Item!
Here's the first one.
Let it blow your fucking mind.
I bet it will. This A-plus list
mostly movie actress who doesn't act any
longer. And also, way before
that was known as a singer
in a ton of ways.
And as the best plastic surgeon in the world
says she got new breast implants because
she was bored with her look.
Singer and...
Older, way super popular as a singer
before she earned her stripes as an actor.
J-Lo?
Older.
No, old.
Old! Older than your...
Well, you could fathom.
Older than the queen.
Oh, no, she's so old.
That's not true, the queen.
No, no, she's not that.
All right, so singer-turned actress.
Yes.
Old.
You love her.
She's old.
She's old.
Yes.
Share.
Isn't that the most share thing
ever. I love that. She's like, yeah, I was bored, so I just got big ass tent. I love to share. And it was
just her birthday. Happy birthday, share. She recently turned 75, and I hope you did actually do that,
because that's fucking bad ass. Yeah. Just like, fuck it. I'm getting tits. I'm sick of this shit.
It's 75, too. I love it. All right, here we go. This next one's fun as hell, too. This former stripper
turned a alist actor, hired out an entire strip club of female strippers as a housewarming gift to himself.
Yeah, I think he was first pretty well known
For A Stripper movies.
Magic Mike.
Channing Tater.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh.
He recently bought a $5.6 million mid-century farmhouse in Brentwood.
And again, just like Cher, I hope that actually happened.
I hope so good.
That is so funny.
Love him.
Love him.
He seems like a good one.
I know.
He seems like such a cutie face.
Well, this next one's a bad one.
This A plus list singer has no business being it.
she's whatever, has one of the most sophisticated bot farms that money can buy to make sure
she sets every streaming record to a level that can't be beat.
And she steals.
And she likes to see what other people are doing and be like, oh, wow, they're really gaining
a really big awesome following.
I guess I'll hear about it from my friends of a friends through S&L.
And I'll steal it and I'll tweet about it.
And they know.
You Aaron, naterin, bitch.
Thank you next.
Yeah, you are.
Wow.
Oh, good one.
Interesting how many, what is it?
Once a week I get a blind item about her deceptions,
and yet everyone's sitting around being like,
she's so, oh, big dick energy or whatever the fuck.
Go fuck yourselves.
Very hard because it seems like it's impossible to say Arionator
without sounding like the word Aryan first.
So she really shouldn't have stolen from you.
It just doesn't work for me.
That's the most egregious part about,
or the most frustrating part about it is like,
Arianator is a shitty word to say.
It does sound like Aryanation.
It is, which honestly too, she could sort of, she sort of stole for Marcus.
Because Roundtable a General, we're all creating our different brands.
Marcus was Marcus Arian Nation, which we asked was a misstep for him.
But at the same time, she sort of stole both.
And it's egregious and unbelievable.
And she should probably be stripped of all of her medals or whatever you do to a celebrity once they've been caught stealing.
I just.
And kid licking don't.
nuts. You know, and it really is not, I'm sure that you can become a real estate tycoon this young.
But the young gentleman she married is like, apparently like a big wig real estate agent.
I don't know what that mean. Like I just, like, how do you get that far that young in real estate?
Like, do you have to have like an edge up? Like, I know many people that work in real estate.
And you don't just like at the age of 21, like, become a millionaire.
No, you probably only do that if you're already very, very, very rich,
and you're making money off of charging other people rent.
Right.
But maybe I'm just envious.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That just sounds like a rich guy.
Which, you know what?
I guess go for all.
Either way.
You know, I guess, I'm not worried about it.
Well, I can see again, and I can see a thief when I smell one.
And we are sniffing up a wedding dress, aren't we, Holden?
Yep, that's what we're doing.
Yeah, whatever, man.
I mean, talk about whatever jail for the eternity.
Solitary confine at whatever jail is.
Ariana deserves her fevers.
Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, start, feel sorry for you, bra.
This guy.
Whatever that's worth.
I feel sorry.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, I feel sorry for you.
Finish, you tell that young millionaire.
Yeah, it probably sucks for you, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, snooze, you lose.
Now go fuck a fish like Tom Cruise, bro.
Yeah, dude.
And very good.
Thank you guys.
Blind items are over and I'm mad about it.
So blind items, shut up or whatever.
You should be upset about it.
And as upset that I am, that this episode is coming to a close.
And I'd be like that for a fucking transition, all right?
It's fucking awesome, man.
We've been killed a game today with the connections between one subject to the next.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you guys for tuning in this week of page seven.
My name is Jackie Zabrowski.
You can follow me on Instagram, eject that worm.
And you could totally check out me and hold and sitting in a tree.
Killing it.
T-W-I-T-C-E.
H-I-N-G.
And we do that over on Holden's Twitch channel.
Normally, not this week, though.
We're taking one because Jackie is going home,
which is going to be fun for her.
So we're not going to be doing it this week.
But normally we do on Fridays.
It's fucking awesome.
We party like crazy and have a great time.
But not this week.
This week we will not be just having fun hanging out drinking.
Well, please, guys, send me some positive energy
for anyone else that hasn't seen their family.
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to me.
A year and a half that has to go.
rip off the band-aid of seeing their family.
I'm very lucky.
My parents made it through.
You know, I know that I'm very lucky.
And, you know, you gotta go home at some point.
That's what they always say.
That's what they say.
Gotta go home at some point.
And we got to go home right now from this episode.
Thank you so much for joining us.
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On the Twitch side, also check us out,
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The Twilight stuff talking TV with Jackie Knight.
It's fucking awesome.
Check it out.
Check out.
Also, rent pop history.
I love that we made a lot of people cry as that episode made me cry.
I cried no less than three times, maybe four in that episode.
So enjoy that.
Enjoy the sound of me crying.
Every second of every day.
Oh, you man.
Live for it.
M.J?
My name is M.J.
And I am M.J.K.L. Kat on Instagram.
And we love you guys.
I believe love is the answer.
Oh, these are in a simulation.
Wow.
Yeah.
Get it.
Get it.
Yeah.
We love you guys.
I like that.
I like that.
We'll see you next week.
Oh, yeah.
Bye.
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