Page 7 - Ep. 406: Oops, It's PCP In The Chowda!
Episode Date: June 10, 2021Jackie and Holden are joined by special guest Carolina Hidalgo as they goss ‘bout the personal affront to Holden that is the high heeled croc, will this be what pushes him to become team croc?, the ...exhibition “fight” between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather, Steve Urkel and Snoop Dogg’s green new venture, Holden’s movement to bring the sitcom catchphrase back and the PCP laced food on set during the filming of Titanic. Finally, in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner; Is the musical Cats about a death cult?!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7PodcastKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey, Jackie.
Oh.
I'm heading down the Atlanta highway.
Bo bha-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-l-l-l-l-l-go.
Love get away.
I got me a car.
It's as big as a whale.
And we're heading on down to the love shack.
I got me a Chrysler.
It seats about 20, so hurry up and bring your toolbox money.
The Love Jack.
We can't get together.
I used to perform that song with your ex so many times on stage.
Yes.
And you know what?
Speaking of my ex is, it is his birthday.
Happy birthday, X.
You broke me and I'm better now.
Welcome to page seven.
I have a love shack stuck in my head because, yes, we are doing RuPaul research right now.
But also very, very special welcome to a one.
the amazing, the bedazzled.
Well, maybe not right now, but in spirit,
Carolina Hidalgo, welcome, welcome to page seven.
Thank you for sitting in for our beloved MJ.
Yeah, thank you so much.
I'm so excited.
I told you guys this before, I'm going to say it again.
I'm going to say three times.
I'm very excited.
I love this.
This is amazing.
Hey, do you want to talk about something
that's different from what you do every day?
Yes.
Yes, I do.
So badly.
Actually, unfortunately for you,
we will just be spending this entire time asking you questions about the Beastie Boys.
You will not be talking about anything other than what you always research all day every day.
No, but I guess we'll immediately say that's a reference to No Dogs in Space, the Amazing Music, Podcast,
that y'all been doing.
I think you just released part six on the Beastie Boys.
We just finished.
We're done.
And I don't want to hear Beastie Boys song for six months.
We love them.
We never have to bring it up.
We don't have to bring it up on the program.
I promise you.
I do want to just give a quick update on MJ.
MJ is doing great.
They are in recovery right now and everything went well.
And they are feeling the gender euphoria bliss at this moment,
which is just amazing to see in real time.
I can only imagine going from being terrified of a surgery
into feeling this empowerment.
Happy pride!
Yeah.
And I'm so glad that we're not talking about the Beastie Boys today.
I can't throw it out there.
I don't know anything about this.
But I guess I should listen to no dogs.
Yeah, you learn everything.
Although I have to admit, while I was doing all the research,
I was a very boring person because someone would say,
hey, what do you want for dinner?
And I'll be like, that reminds me of the time the Beastie Boys did this or that or the other.
And I'm like, no, no.
I have lots of needs and wants and likes and all kinds of things.
It spreads everywhere.
It's very vast.
I promise.
I can't even imagine.
That's why, you know, we're here to give you a platform where I,
were you wondering if you would be able to scream about high-heeled crocs or not?
Now, don't worry, we here can save you at page 7 to talk about the stiletto crocs.
I have been tagged in it so many times, and I love how much I've been tag in it because I am in rage.
Maybe they're very comfortable.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Do you think that they're comfortable?
It feels, I don't know, it kind of feels like a long con at this point.
It's like they're trying to offend me.
They're trying to gain my ire.
I will say this about the platform crock.
I'm going to give shoutouts.
The like Mario plunger of a heel that just makes it look so fucking goofy.
Like they couldn't even just give it a normal heel.
They had to make goof it up a little bit.
I don't even know what I would call that heel.
I would refer to it as like a sprocket.
You know what I mean?
Like a toad in the left?
It's like such a goofy.
I don't understand.
Yeah, like a toad in the wet.
That's all I know about the word.
Because we're music aficionados, Carolina.
So we know what band's names are, okay?
And Toto the Wet Sprag is one of them, okay?
I'm just sitting here really wholly impressed.
So you're right.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah, the Kroc heel.
It just feels like a troll.
It feels like the Kroc is the troll of the fashion industry in a lot of ways.
And I'm starting to want to like switch teams to team Kroc just because I know what they're
doing at this one.
and they're not going to fucking get me.
I love, I mean, I don't love it.
It's not good, but I don't think it's bad.
I think it's actually kind of fun.
And watching the models go down the runway, I just fall into hysterics.
You know, it's just so funny.
Like, I don't, you could be like a brilliant scientist, and if you're wearing that, the whole time, I'll be just be like, come on.
What the hell is going to be.
And it's funny.
I mean, I dare people to try to make this a thing.
I dare them to.
I want to see how far it goes.
Or it will be.
Well, you know what it is?
I'll say this right now.
I'll say two words.
Dadcore.
Okay?
It's a thing.
And I think that this is how this is going to become popular.
Like mom core is going to be popular as well.
You know what I mean?
Dad core is huge.
Look up Daddor.
Dad it out.
Why did I end up on Dadcore?
I don't even know now.
I thought it was maybe for research for this.
Yeah.
See, Jackie?
Yeah.
Honestly, Daddy Jeff.
Got Daddy Jeff shows a little bit of Dadcore energy.
much so I apologize.
No, my, my look of true disgust is because I looked up knee-high crocs, and there's this,
Balanjega, vibram five-finger high-toe ankle boots that they do.
High-heeled boots where the finger, you know, remember the finger shoes where you put your, the toe shoes.
Oh, yeah.
Where your toes are individual.
This is $1,200 shoes that look like the high-heeled crocs,
except that there's also the toe.
The toes.
The toes on it.
And I feel like I'm offended.
But then it's like they did that purposely to get the, you know what I mean?
That's what they want.
It's the internet winning, Jackie.
It's toe armor.
Don't let them win.
What about the toes?
Usually it was always, you know, toeless shoes or the shoes wear your toes show,
which is always the ugliest part of my.
body and now they're putting armor over it like it's like the Batmobile.
I'm all for it.
I'm never going to wear it.
But I mean, it does look kind of funny.
And I honestly believe that in a million years when everything is just withered away,
those things for somehow retain.
I know.
People will look at it and be like, they wore this.
They are the cockroaches of our time, you know.
Man, they can slip under the door.
They can get into your bed and they can crawl inside of your ears.
What?
And very scared of issues.
I believe everything.
Now, Holden brings up a really great point, is that do we need to just give in?
I'm getting a lot of crock glove on the internet.
And Carolina here at page 7, I don't want to speak for all of us, but I do want to say that I've
been very against crock culture for a long time.
And it's not because even that it just looks silly, but because I don't necessarily enjoy
them.
So I need to know, are you a pro crocker?
And I also need you to know I'm not going to kick you off of the show.
I am not, you know what?
I'm neutral in this sense because I used to, you know, work with kids and they wore crocs everywhere.
And it was, it makes sense for kids.
They don't stain.
They're comfortable.
You could lose them, whatever.
You can pair them with another crock.
It doesn't matter.
It's so easy.
But it does, if you're an adult, it kind of does feel a little goofy.
And there's just, I mean, whatever comes out of your mouth.
I'm not going to pay attention.
It's the crock family, right?
And that's why I had a memory of a crock family.
I'm sure the children were named something like Cody and like Chesliana or whatever it is.
But like it was a family of kids all had like that shaggy bowl cut.
The parents looked annoying to everyone around them.
They were all wearing like white crocs with their giblets on them.
And they just were wreaking such havoc on the airport that I was at that I just think
I always now associate the shoe with a type of,
you know what, a type of people I'm slowly becoming, right?
Because I'm about to be actual dad.
You're so dad for, it's ridiculous.
I bet you all get to the point where you're just,
Croc is a tired person's shoe.
Croc is a shoe for the exhausted human.
You know what I mean?
It is barely a shoe, it might as well just be,
you know, a milk carton fashioned into a booth.
You know, it's something that you just slip your foot into
and forget about,
You forget that you even have to put shoes on.
You probably sleep and those people sleep in their crocs.
They just sleep in their crocs and they were all bed.
They were like, I wish I had a crock for my whole body.
You know what I mean?
Where are those paupins?
I want crock paupins.
I would get that's where.
If that's where we're going great.
With the holes in them.
With the holes in them.
That'll be perfect.
There won't be any mildew.
Just the water will just run through pretty good.
And then you can really turn into mushrooms.
I want one of those mushroom bags so bad.
Honestly, I just kind of wish, like, if I could just, like, if I lost a limb,
I'm like, can you save it so I can put it into one of those mushroom coffin bags
so I can turn the limb into mushrooms.
Wow.
Oh, my God, weed leaf crocs.
That doesn't make any sense at that point.
Like, what even are you?
Are you a weird dad or are you a hippie?
Oh, no.
I'm looking at this dad-cord.
Jeff is dad-core.
I'm marrying a dad-coffin.
Yeah, Jeff's so dad-core, bro.
Barack Obama.
So it's like I'm marrying a Barack, okay?
It's like you're marrying the first black president of the United States of America.
So that makes exactly like that.
Everyone's constantly saying, Michelle?
No, it's Jack.
Thank you very much.
It's the arms.
No, I could never wear the dresses that she wears.
She's just so beautiful.
Do we have to talk about, I saw the fight.
Do we have to talk about it?
We have to talk about the fight.
You miss the most important part of the fight in your articles,
which is obviously the fucking Pokemon card.
he wore as a diamond necklace.
Okay, we need to put that in there.
We have to talk about, yes.
That is worse than a crock or two.
Oh, yes.
And worse than all of this put together is just the idea that we are still talking about
Logan Paul.
I don't know if you've noticed, but I try to never bring up this son of a bitch on this
show because I don't like him.
I don't like his platform.
I don't like what he does.
And yet, talk about the crocs.
of YouTube when it comes to cockroaches,
I mean Logan Paul is still on our lips,
and he just fought Floyd Mayweather.
Now, there's, I think I know three things about boxing.
Okay.
That is Mike Tyson, yeah.
Floyd Mayweather.
Oh, my God, you're so close.
Evander Holyfield.
Yes, that's the three I know.
Yes, the ear.
You said you know three things about boxing.
I thought you were going to be like,
they have to wear gloves.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Do it in a ring.
I don't know those names.
Sometimes they get up on the ropes and they jump higher
And I don't know what they do and it's scary
There's like seven movies about this called Rocky
And you should really like do some yeah if you get into it and then you start seeing how it is
It is really fun to watch but not in person because I once it dies
He dies right?
Yes yes exactly
And if Rocky's any indication it be it gradually becomes more and more ridiculous with every
passing moment.
As each movie comes out and each passing moment
comes out, it just gradually becomes more and more an
absurd mockery of the sport.
And that is what's happened here.
We, and I just want to say right now,
we lose, we lost.
The people I saw the boxing match
with, we lost, we lose right now because we're talking
about it. They win. They always win.
This was an exhibition. I didn't even know this till
the end. I thought at least they would declare a winner
until the very end when someone was like,
no, there's no winner. Because
he didn't knock Logan Paul out.
He was never gonna knock Logan Paul out.
There's even very sus footage out there
of like Holyfield literally holding Logan Paul up.
I'm sorry, Maryweather was what I was, Pippin.
Is that his name?
Is it the Lord of the Rings character?
Bipper Maryweather.
He's gonna come and beat you to death.
You know what?
Maybe he's not.
If the millions of dollars are involved for both of us,
then he'll probably let me live.
Because that's what he's in the game of doing right now.
He has been retired for like four years.
years or something, maybe longer.
Logan Paul is being Logan Paul.
And the whole thing was a sham.
The whole thing.
So it was an exhibition master, which means there's no declared winner.
So unless Floyd Mayweather had knocked Logan Paul out, which is what everyone wanted
him to do, which is why so many people paid $50 to see this.
Did you pay $50?
Oh, yeah, Carolina.
Oh, no, no, no.
Kisle paid $50 to watch something.
Yeah, I didn't pay $50.
Yeah, no, no, that's fine.
And I made him give me five.
after seeing it just as a penance.
You made money out of this match,
Old and McNeely.
You also contributed.
You profited off this.
Absolutely.
We're all part of the problem.
You did this.
For me, it was about the friends I met along the way.
I just went to hang out with Sina and Kissel and Ed and Henry and have a boy man's night.
And we did.
We were gruff with each other.
We were rough with each other.
Did you guys have knockouts?
We helped each other.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, we were getting all.
We were so rowdy with each other.
I scratched.
Henry's ear at one point.
He kissed my knuckle at one
point. Yeah, he grabbed my hand.
He was like, yeah, you like that shit. And he kissed
my knuckle really sensually. And I was just like,
what are we doing here? Why are we in the bathroom right now?
Honestly, it's kind of nice. I love a tender kiss
regardless. Yeah.
It was beautiful. But I will
say we were the losers that night. And it was funny to watch
because literally like Sina at one point
bit was like, if he doesn't get knocked out
in this match, it's bad for
humanity. You know what I mean? There was a lot
writing on the match.
for those guys. I was literally the whole time, I mean, for the most part, especially at the end, I was like, we're the losers here. We bought, we, we supported this shenanagery, this nonsense. So they walked away with millions of dollars. I think the funniest part for me was just the logo Paul had a $150,000 Pokemon card in a diamond necklace, encased it in a diamond necklace that he wore into the ring. And afterwards, he was like, now it's worth a million. Now it's with a million dollars. And his brother the whole time was like, hey, look, I'm
Paul won, yeah.
You saw it, right?
Look, and Paul just beat
Holy-Wether.
I keep wanting to call him Holyfield, so I'm really good at this.
You know what I mean? And you're just like, he didn't.
You fucking troll.
This is all annoying.
You're all annoying.
Like, every, you all need to go away.
But instead, for some reason, I supported this.
And that's where I'm at with it.
I just smoked as much weed as I possibly could.
I tried to forget that I exist,
much less the match.
And that's kind of where we're at,
late stage capitalism. Back to you, Jackie.
I'm just so disgusted. I'm so disgusted with this fucker.
And I'm mad that he was given millions of dollars to do this. I'm mad. You know what,
definitely give it to Floyd Mayweather. He was like, he straight up was like when people
ask him like, why would you want to do this? Why would you? He's like, I'm retired. Yeah. And
they're paying me millions of dollars to do it. Yeah. Why the hell not? He literally said,
I'm in, I'm not in the boxing business anymore, but I am in the business still of making tons of money.
That's really what this is, right?
The exhibition match.
It's all entertainment.
It's a cartoon.
You know, beatbox and Rocksteady just added at each other.
Yes.
But it costs a lot more money.
Actually, Beop and Rocksteady worked together, Carolina.
They were fighting against the Ninja Turtles and Splinter.
But they worked for Shredder and they were companions.
They would never bar each other for millions of dollars.
I'm making up, so I'm not wrong.
I like it.
But also how much money?
Honestly, I feel like it wouldn't take much.
What do they eat?
I only remember them as babies from the movie.
So do you, like, I feel like, you know.
Pizza.
Did they also eat pizza?
Is it all pro pizza?
The Ninja Turtles love pizza.
I know the Ninja Turtles love pizza, but would it be Bop and Rock Steady Love.
Oh, human brains.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think they're more like gas station burrito people.
Yeah.
I'd be honest.
Or mutants, actually.
They're mutants.
That's why you give them their weight in gas station burritos,
and they will fight against each other,
and I want to watch them gnash and scratch.
I'll pay $100 for that.
Yeah, there you go.
I'm sure I'd fucking pay for that.
What are their weapons?
What do they do against the Ninja Turtles?
Bebop Barak steady, well, it depends on what we're talking about.
I mean, mostly they're just kind of like bruisers, essentially, just tufts.
You know what I mean?
They just, they have punching hands.
I had a Bebopper Rocksteady, had a car that was,
would shoot pizzas, I believe actually,
at the turtles, which is weird, because I think,
maybe that was a turtle thing.
Trying to feed that?
Yeah, it sounds like that.
It sounds like kind of nice.
It's like a food truck.
It's like the beginning of food truck.
Right.
Like a meals on meals.
Oh my God, it's a meal.
Really, I love Rocks.
They're not good villains.
They're accidentally helping.
Yeah, they thought they were taking down Manhattan.
They ended up feeding a family of five.
So I don't really know what they were thinking there.
I say God bless them.
I remember Roxette has a machine gun, I believe,
in the video game.
I'm pretty sure.
I think they just have guns and fits.
and brass knucks, you know what I mean?
I think it's B-Bob's thing, brass knucks.
Well, at least we know now what Steve Urkel would bring
into the fight.
And that is the motherfoggin' hogs leg dog.
That was the hero of this story, right?
Am I right?
He is the hero.
I know I didn't bring up the Pokemon card
that Logan Yuck was wearing.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna call him.
I'm very creative today.
It was at Charazard, and it's worth, again,
$150,000.
Oh, is that the cute little one?
Is it the cute little lizard?
It's the fire-breathing little red lizard guy.
Well, I don't like Logan.
Yuck.
But I do love Steve Urkel.
And I was very, very shocked to see this commercial of Steve Urkel and Snoop Dog
selling weed.
And I'm surprised that I guess I don't understand like the licensing or the ads on a
pay-per-view.
And I guess that you can do something like this.
But Holden, did you see this commercial when you were watching it?
No, I got there late.
I tried to get there just in time for the fight because I could only be there for a little while
because my, you know, ailing wife or whatever.
So I just chose to go for the hour that the fight would be.
So I missed what was definitely the best part of the whole thing.
It opened with the best part, which is just watching Steve Urkel and Snoop Dogg,
smoke weed together.
And how dare the people in chat be like,
Erkel would like have called the cops on Snoop Dog,
whereas Urkel would have been the real weed boy.
No, dude, Urkel's a Coke guy.
Urkel's a weed guy.
Nerds are weed guys.
Cool dudes are Coke guys.
Okay?
Get it right.
That's actually correct.
Yes.
Wow.
Holy crap.
How did that happen?
No, you're absolutely right.
Urkel would have probably lost his mind and done, and then like trashed the house by
accident and been like, I ate an edible.
Yeah.
Came up with a new theory of relativity in the process.
That was the one thing that I felt like they never got right with Stefan Urkel.
Is it as smooth as he was.
I feel like if Laura wasn't into it, he would have trapped her inside of that time-changing
Magoober.
And then I feel like you never would have let her out, because you're right, completely.
You can't trust a Stefan Urkel.
What happens after they get used to you?
I want to know Stefan Urkel.
But I would smoke a lot of green with Urkel.
And it was funny to listen to how his voice had changed, though, in all of the, what
at 30 years since Joliel White played Stephen Hercl.
Has it changed?
I feel like he looks like he has an age today.
Oh, he hasn't aged a day.
But I mean, his voice was definitely a little different.
Well, it's always very weird because, you know, he put on a voice during the show,
the run of Family Matters.
And I remember hearing him in like interviews because I was, I was, I followed those
stories and interviews when Steve Urkel would be like, yes, next season, we're going to go
to Disney World and stuff.
I remember he put on a voice,
but so it still feels strange though.
It still feels like you should go back to that voice,
that Steve Urkel voice,
or like maybe if the delivery person is late,
if you want to call them as Steve Urkel,
how do you do that?
Because I imagine he lives dual life.
Did I do that?
Well, also his voice has to be changing
these smoking mad fucking weed puffs, bro.
It's so smart that he's hawking his own line of weed now.
It's called the Purple Urkel.
Perfect.
And I have to find it.
Yes, we have to get it.
I don't.
You know, it's like, you know what?
I hunted down the Gaga Oreos, which tasted like regular Oreos, I was fine with it.
I got them.
But now it is now my dying wish that I find the Purple Urkel greenery.
And I don't know how to get it.
Can I throw a little dying wish out there myself, Jackie?
Oh, we're doing dying wishes.
Yeah, all right.
Carolina started thinking.
I'm thinking.
I want to bring back the sitcom catchphrase.
Did I do that?
You got to be soup in me.
You've got, you know, don't have a cow man.
Cowabunga.
Those are both from the Simpsons.
No, no, well, I guess Calabunga could also be attributed to Teenage Mutuals.
We used to have so many of these where you just say them out loud.
You know, it's the death of the water cooler and the birth of the internet chit-chat, right?
Now it's so deep.
Now our sitcom catchphrases are TikTok memes.
You know what I mean?
They're not happening in this way, this unified way.
I want that Urkel magic back where you could just be sitting in the break room, right,
contemplating how you would maybe possibly, you know, into life if you have to keep working
at this fucking job.
This guy every day is like cracking a whip on you.
Get back.
You need to focus on the spreadsheets.
I mean, you're just like, I'll trade my wife in for a better life.
damn it.
You're thinking about how your kids
fucking maybe you made a mistake
in your 20s.
You're waiting until your 30s
to have to get, you know what I mean?
The whole thing's happening.
I feel like now was a really good time
to say that Holden didn't have any coffee this morning
and I think that it really is going to show
I have quit drinking coffee
for the morning.
I woke up,
I didn't have enough time to get coffee
and I had a lot of work to get done.
And I got a good night's sleep.
So I powered through it.
All I'm saying is while that's happening,
someone comes in and goes,
don't have a cow, man.
And then for a brief,
second you forget all you think about is
Bart Simpson being funny saying
that line you laugh with your buddy
and then you go you know
what was the Seinfeld one
that uh whatever you say like ah
you know oh hello Newman
right there you go
yeah you say hello Newman
and they're like you got it wrong but
you still laugh about it because you know what show you're referring
to see you're saying that we need more catch
phrases but every time I say you all
the week is like good boy I love that no one
smiles I don't like
You gotta be stupid me, but I do like you are the weakest, like, goodbye. That's a good one.
I think it's a great one.
No, I love, I remember when I was a kid, bam was a big thing.
It's a great one.
Emeril Lagasse's bam, always bam this.
And my dad took that for the next 20 years.
Long after it was long dead.
He kept going with that.
So, you know what?
Sometimes it is fun.
But I remember at the time groaning a lot.
And now it's just, now I'm just waxing poetic on this.
Yeah.
I guess that's what it is.
It's just about nostalgia.
Like, let's go back to, it's a living.
I don't know who made that up.
Who did that?
I don't remember.
Can't trust your doctor.
You know what I mean?
Or whatever it used to be, right?
Sweet, Susie.
Oh, or how about just the simplicity of this one?
Whoa.
Oh, God.
I wanted to lick him from hair to down there.
Why is he up to these?
Who is the actor that played Joey on Blossom?
The brothers, from brothers.
love. Oh, okay, so they're still around. Oh, yeah. Whoa. Yes. This is all coming back to me.
I want to say Joey Tribiani, but that's just because I was looking at a list of catch raises,
and there was also, you know, his, how you doing? But we don't, we're not talking about
friends right now. Carolyn, I've been getting mad because everything's been about the
friends reunion and it's been making me mad even though I am a friend's, like I was a friend's
person for a long time. And it still makes me mad. But the real question is, Carolina, do you
you have a dying wish that you need to put out there today.
Other than Bam?
Yeah.
No, I guess my dying wish, and I guess it has to be something since Holden wants catchphrases
to come back.
So it has to be something and then you get murdered by everyone.
You know, so it has to be something that annoys the whole world, I guess, in a sense.
Yeah.
And then I just leave everyone completely inconvenience.
Yes.
I think that'll be great.
I'm so down for that.
I think my, one of my favorite things, I honestly.
And I'm down for this.
I want to get rid of, my dying wish is like, let's just get rid of like sleeves.
That's it.
No sleeves.
Like sleeveless.
I know I'm wearing sleeves right now, but this is a, this is an anomaly.
I like sleeveless everything.
They are barely sleeves.
All right.
Those are like leaves.
They like, you can't even put the S in the word.
You're right.
These are the longest.
This is the most.
Yes, exactly.
It's a conservative today.
It's a baby T caps sleeve.
Exactly.
And I'm down for that.
I love sleeveless shirts.
I'm down for that.
For some reason, you move, you're comfortable.
You can move your arms at any pace, anywhere.
And I just want to bring that back 100%.
And I wanted to be in a sense that if you want to wear sleeveless, you can,
and you can get seated at a fine dining restaurant.
It should be allowed all over, all classes and all societies.
I think it should be just, that's okay.
If you're going to wear crocs, you might as well just go the whole route.
I get it, man.
I used to rip off.
I said this many years ago, now that I'm not an alcoholic as much anymore,
anytime I would buy a shirt with sleeves, whenever I would get drunk,
I would drunkenly, and I would never remember, like, cut off all the sleeves of all of my shirts.
And then, but when you're living in New York and then, you know, October rolls around,
and I'm like, nothing I have as, like, even my long-sleeve shirts, I'd cut the sleeves off of it.
And I'd just be so mad at drunk me that I'd try to hide my shirts so that I wouldn't,
cut the sleeves off of them.
And I never,
man, they could never hide for a long.
Keep the sleeves.
Put them back.
Frankenstein, your shirts back every October.
Yes.
Oh my God, that would be great.
Like little zippers on the sleeves.
Yeah, kind of like Sally from Nightmare Before Christmas.
Yes.
But instead it's your clothes.
Yes.
I'm down for that.
I just want to give a Joey Lawrence update.
Joey from Blossom.
He has been consistently acting in a lot of like,
it looks like kind of lower budget television and film.
for sure.
And he also started a band.
He's been doing music stuff for a while.
And he was also on Dancing with the Stars.
Go for him.
And made it to the finals.
Oh, he made it third place.
Wow.
I miss his hair, though.
He's not the same without that.
Oh, my God, that is.
Yeah, he took all of his hair off, which is great.
Probably didn't want to be associated with the character.
He did a lot of music stuff.
But yeah, he's just been consistently working, but nothing's been, like, huge since, I guess,
brotherly love.
So that's fun.
Yeah.
Didn't he try to go by, like, Joseph for a while?
Then he tried to do grown-up stuff, and he tried to do like a horror movie or something.
And he was just like, now it's Joseph Lawrence.
Now it's, you know, famous, well-to-do drama actor.
This summer prepared to be terrified to a very bone in the movie, Whoa.
Featuring Joey Lawrence.
Whoa!
Yeah, that's what everyone has to think of that.
I really think he did a horror movie, and he probably did at least one woe.
At the very least.
I just, I got sidebar, side-tracked angry because I started looking at this list of catchphrases from movies.
Oh.
And they say that from the Lord of the Rings, the catchphrase is, you shall not pass.
Yeah.
Now, the thing, is that the catchphrase?
A hundred percent.
Lord of the Rings.
You shall not pass.
Sure.
Yeah, that's the catchphrase.
That's the biggest one.
Keep it secret.
Keep it safe.
I would say maybe be one of the other ones.
Yes.
I can't carry it, but I can carry you.
I can carry it, but I can carry you.
That's the one I say constantly inside of my brain.
But you shall not pass.
I think it's legit tracks for Lord of the Rings catchphrases, for sure.
There's just some of these that is making me, that it's just getting me.
Because in the same way that they say that Silence of the Lambs, that the line, the catchphrases with some fava beans and a nice kianti.
That's not a catchphrase.
Hello, glories.
Should it be a little carrie?
Right?
Or it puts the lotion on its skin?
But yeah.
But Fava beans is a nice key ante.
Okay, the reason why that one became what it is is actually probably more attributed
to a phenomenal comedy, black comedy called Cable Guy.
Yeah.
That's right.
You're absolutely right.
That is the origin of where it eventually became a thing.
And then everybody did, you know, Anthony Hopkins.
Everyone did the, that was the spoof of the decade.
Yeah.
I'm just so happy you brought up Cable Guy because on the last week's Classy Night In, which we do.
I do over on the last podcast, Twitch stream every other Wednesday with Henry and Eddie.
I told Ed that he could tell a joke if he acted like Jim Carrey's version of Hannibal Lecter in the cable guy.
Remember what he puts the meat on his face?
Yeah, yeah.
And they had no idea what I was talking about.
I was like, what?
From the cable guy.
when he puts the meat on his face.
That's on Ed.
That's on Ed.
That's classic.
I just thought it was like burned into my brain.
Yeah, yeah.
That's cable guy's canon for human life.
You have to watch it.
You have to understand it.
It's a part of things.
Yeah, absolutely.
I, but you're, this is killing me.
Asta baby.
It's a tumour.
We used to have so many catchphrase.
Oh, it's not a tumor.
It's not a tumor.
It's not a tumas.
Boys have penises.
Girls have vaginas.
Oh, kindergarten.
cop, can we talk about that for two seconds?
I still make that joke.
I still do that.
I have to.
You have to.
You have to.
I don't know how else.
Marcus has been having like, you know, bad headaches recently.
So I'm just like, okay, I can't help myself.
And he's just like, all right, you get like one.
And I'm like, I get like five.
You get five.
I'm sorry.
You get at least five.
And it's not a tumor, by the way.
It's not a test.
It's not a tumor.
And then it made it worse.
And it exploded all of them.
over the house when he got his results.
So I'm sorry.
And now,
I'd never be sorry.
What someone should be sorry for is planting this nugget of a story back into my head
that I didn't know that there was space for it.
And yes,
I'm referring to the set of Titanic go with me on this guys.
I was so,
I never knew about this story.
This blew my mind, Jackie.
Yeah.
This should be news news.
It should be.
I think I,
I,
I,
heard whisperings about it and I was like oh that's probably fake and you know when you find yourself
in a worm time and you start reading about things you're like why am i reading and like it cuts to
25 minutes later I'm like why am I still reading about the set of titanic I'm not doing anything with
it right now but sometimes you got to learn things for you which is why I am sharing this story
because I always assumed it was a lie and it is not a lie that on the set of the making of the
movie Titanic, that there was food given out from the caterer necessarily, I don't think
that they are the ones that did it, that was laced with PCP and was given to lots of people,
including extras, on the set of making the Titanic, and then everybody lost their fucking
minds. So I'm reading through this, it is real. It wasn't at the time when Kate Winslet and
Leonardo DiCaprio were on the set.
So they didn't succumb to it.
Oh.
However, can you imagine?
Bill Paxton got it, right?
Yeah.
Because he was there.
Yeah.
And poor Bill Paxton, rest in peace, of course.
Yeah, he is dead, right?
Okay, yes.
Rest in peace.
I'll break my heart, but yes.
But even if he wasn't dead,
it wasn't the angel dust.
I would hope that he'd be resting right now
in a peaceful manner, even if he was alive.
I mean, we could all agree.
Yes.
And the one time he, I guess, accidentally dabbled in angel dust.
Outside of the set of big love, which I imagine he would have to be on because big love is beautiful in it.
Yeah, no, you're right.
And it's so, I mean, the fact that it was the chowder, the fact that like when it's something seafood-ish,
yeah.
Like that is the last thing in your mind that first, you don't first think I've been drug.
And PCP, yeah, that's the part, yeah, right?
I agree.
It's so crazy that the drug of choice is fucking PCP.
That, because that is like, I don't want anyone to have a good time.
Like, I definitely need this to be a bad experience for everyone involved.
And, yeah, that definitely was amazing.
And then the other part that's amazing to me is just like the whole thing of it that they can't
figure out who did it because he's such a fucking asshole to everybody who works for him.
It's just like a needle at a haystack trying to find the person that wanted to sabotage him
with the food.
I mean, I guess obviously everybody was on the PCP probably was ruled out as a suspect,
but that still leaves hundreds of people.
Or is it, I don't know.
Who knows?
If you guys know...
One person could be pretending.
It could be.
Or, I mean, and James Cameron is a known asshole.
In fact, down to the fact that he called her, was it Kate Waze a lot instead of Kate Winslet, which really fucking ruined her for a long time.
Also, sidebar, definitely start watching Mary of East Town if you haven't yet.
But what I wanted to say is that in reading through this, it brought back up, and I know I talked about it on a talking TV.
when I had first watched it, but I watched it during quarantine, and it led to a lot of nightmares,
which is the Gaspar No movie Climax that came out a couple years ago that I watched at the
beginning of quarantine and talk about a movie that made me feel like I was in a cage.
And Climax is also about a bunch of people that weren't aware, trapped in a place, and everyone is
lSD and they don't know it until they fucking know it and then what it delves into and of course
if you are familiar with gaspar no um you who did you know such silly fun movies as irreversible
and enter the void oh yeah that it wasn't a fun experience but i will say i think it is a
it is a psychological horror film that i still think about i think once a
I cannot get it out of my brain and watching everyone fall into and like what that like the rhythmic, because it was all, it happened to a dance company.
So just imagining like they already feel connected to each other and then you're trapped in a building with each other trying to figure out what's going on and it's Gaspar.
No, it's very, very upsetting.
Only watch it if you are into psychological horror movies, please.
It is very upsetting.
I cannot stress this enough.
But this story, the PCP story, made me think about it.
So then if you're watching climax and you're thinking about the set,
like the cast of Titanic going through the same thing,
I have been having nightmares every night since I read this story.
Not counting like a Spanish fly roofy situation.
Have you guys ever been like that kind of dose?
I was recently sick.
It wasn't any, there was no PCP in my food.
And I know I mentioned this really quick on no dogs last week,
but it was, I was sickened by eating something.
Do you know what it was?
I'm not sure.
It's either the avocado or the quinoa.
I got one of those bowls that, the fuel bowls that people get that's so, you know, whatever popular is that you get, you get all that protein and all that stuff.
I ate one of those.
And then I was up all night.
And I was up all night with the worst food poisoning of my life.
It was so bad.
And the thing that made it worse was the fact that I didn't say.
sleep the night before because I
have insomnia and so I
thought okay well I didn't sleep the night before I'll just
work all day and then I'll just go to bed early
except unless you have food poisoning and then that
doesn't work and then you're up all night
so then you're not going to believe what happened
Jackie and Holy you're not going to believe this and then
I'm in the bathroom I go to
the bedroom and I just collapsed
and fell asleep from where I
because I was so tired
and Marcus had to find the body
he was so tragic
it was he was like he was
like, oh my God.
And like he, you know, I woke up within seconds.
And I was like, oh, sorry, I fell asleep.
I need to go to bed.
So he took me to bed.
And the whole time he stayed up all night thinking about like, no one tells me about this when
it comes to marriage.
They always talk about the nagging and the how come you don't want to go see my parents.
I want you to want to all that stuff.
But instead, it's the one day I'm going to find the body.
Yes.
Sunday he's going to find the body.
Yeah.
That's a psychological horror movie already in my apartment.
Oh, Carolina.
But I'm okay.
I'm okay.
I'm trying to come up of a catchphrase.
And she's okay.
She's okay.
And then credits.
Yeah, or something.
And that's, and my catchphrase is, it's PCP.
Oh, no.
I hate that.
Oops, it's PCP and the chowder.
No.
I gotta like it.
I like, it's, it's, it's, it's.
It's terrible, but I love it.
I love it.
Yes, it's PCB in the chowder.
Anytime you feel sick, you got a stomach ache, you know, you got a little gurgle or something.
Yes, it's PCP in the chowder.
Oh, just imagine how thick that chowder is with PCP and cream.
Yeah, I just don't know how.
You guys ever tried that?
I don't want cream with my PCP.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that too.
And you feel all crazy and you have all this goo in you.
I'm going to just go ahead and say like,
Fishcom is what that looks like.
Yeah. I think that's fine to say that.
And truly, and I love a chowder.
They don't want PCP in my chowder.
It is kind of fun, though, as you get older
and you experience more things of finding it,
more things can make you sick.
When I found out I got food poisoning from sprouts.
If bean sprouts are not refrigerated,
they have to remain refrigerated until they are cooked.
And if you were eating them raw,
you have to keep them refrigerated
because they immediately start
they like soak up bacteria
something something something
I got so sick
and it's kind of fun to like learn about new things
that can make you really fucking sick
for a week, isn't it?
I agree.
I guess it's time for celebrity conspiracy.
Uh-oh, looks like we don't have time
to talk about city slickers this week.
Jackie, oops.
I wanted to talk about city slickers
Happy 30th anniversary.
I just wanted to say that I have my finger on the pulse of culture.
And that is a 30th anniversary of City Slickers this week.
Happy anniversary.
I was on another show last night and everyone says it doesn't hold up.
I think that they are liars.
I got to watch this movie.
I definitely do.
Now I need to see it.
You sold another person.
Great.
It's on HBO match.
I've never seen it.
I need to see this.
Also, Ellie Kemper, probably not a KKK princess.
So just a follow up from.
last week. I appreciated her
apology, I think was one of
the best apologies I've seen
from a situation, from a celebrity that seems like
it actually came from the heart and was not only like,
it's like, yes, you're right, I'm not a KKK person, but I should be
responsible to find out the organizations that I attach
myself to, find out about their past, and
ignorance is no excuse. And I really actually, like, look up
Ellie Kemper's apology.
It really is, it's a good apology.
And I appreciate the time she put into it.
Yeah, she's like, yo, here's the street beef.
I am not a member of the KKK, but check this shit out.
I'm still fucking liable on some bullshit.
Yeah, right, essentially.
Hell yeah, good for her.
Absolutely.
Give us that conspiracy theory.
It's time for somebody conspiracy.
Hey, me with the share.
Do you believe in?
The idea.
You did it.
That's my best share.
impression. I love that song, but I can only sing it like from the jowl.
Oh, you want to hit us with a little jowly? Do you believe in love that?
Yes. Some like that. I don't know the words, but you know, I feel like you have to do it like,
oh, you got to make an oh, oh face when you do it. The soul is there. Yeah. Is the musical cats
about a death cult? What? This one comes in from Victoria. Is the plot to cats about cats
who are in a death cult
and they decide
at the ball
who to sacrifice.
She then links a bustle article
written by a person
named Olivia Trufant Wong
entitled, Wait,
are the cats in cats
in a cult?
Cats follows a community
of abandoned or stray cats
living in London
called the Jellicle Cats.
Once a year they celebrate
the Jellicle Ball
where cats who wish to ascend
to the heavyside lair,
a sort of cat heaven
where they can be reborn
into the life they desire,
perform a song for Old Deuteronomy.
played by Judy Dinch, the Jellicle cat leader
who will then choose one cat to go to Heaviside.
In other words, these cats are competing to die
at the hands of their revered ancient leader,
and this is somehow presented as hopeful?
Watching cats, it's impossible not to wonder,
what if a gelical isn't just a weird term
for this strange group of cats,
but the name of an actual cult.
It all fits, the blind faith,
the mysterious unquestioned leader,
the strange new vocabulary,
reaching Heaviside layer,
might as well be synonymous with Going Clear.
and the strange ritualistic singing.
But what is perhaps the most disturbing
about all of this is that many of these cats
don't really have good reasons to die.
Apparently, the heavy brainwashing
doesn't also give them the ability
to make any good ones up
and there is nothing worse than half-assed ambition.
You have to want it.
Take Skimble Shanks.
The tap dancing railway cat
who performs a song about his satisfying life
on the train and uses that as a reason
he should be chosen to have a new life.
He's young, nimble for all.
Intents and Purpose is pretty jolly.
Why does he crave the sweet release of death?
It feels a little greedy to want another life when yours is already pretty decent.
Then there's Busterford Jones, whose personality is basically that he loves to eat garbage.
Sorry, dude, but loving trash isn't exactly a compelling argument for someone to give you another life.
And that's nothing compared to the gall of Ginny and Dots.
Jenny Annie Dots, you bitch.
Who is just lazy and therefore deserves another chance at life, I guess.
For most of the jellical cats, their lives really aren't so bad.
So why?
Why do they want to be reborn so badly?
And why do they need to participate in a talent show to achieve their goal?
It's all for Deuteronomy's enjoyment, for entertainment, and it's creepy as hell.
None of these cats even know what heavy side layer is.
There is no mention of what has happened to any previously chosen cats.
No word from the Great Beyond.
No confirmation of old Deuteronomy's claim that chosen cats were reborn.
For all they know, the ancient cat could be killed.
the innocence and eating them.
Or maybe she feeds off their life force.
Maybe she lives for the kill, and these poor cats are none the wiser.
I regret to inform you that Katz is a movie about an annual ritualistic sacrifice,
but alas, I must.
Forget midsummer.
It is Katz that is the true horror film of 2019.
Wow.
Thank you, Victoria and Olivia at Boston.
I'm going to eat that word salad up right now.
And I'm going to say, first of all, I've seen the musical on Broadway.
and I can't believe that anyone was able to pay attention enough to know that there was a plot.
Yes, agree.
Second of all, I feel like in a way, in an objective way for someone who hasn't seen this movie,
it kind of feels like we're blasting some sort of weird cat culture.
And this is something like for Picard to deal with, you know, with the prime directive.
It's like, I mean, like, this is what they believe.
Who are we to judge the cat planet?
And like, what do we do?
Do we interfere or do we just stand back and like let them eat each other or whatever the business is going on?
And when it comes to Bustifer Jones and Jenny Anydots, I say we let them die.
I hate Bustopher Jones and I hate Jenny Anydots.
I hate them.
I hate them.
Can we give them some kind of a non-rebirth, like some kind of a nirvana enlightenment so that they never are reborn again?
because I would love for them to just go away.
Because also, Carolina, Buster Jones is played by James Corden.
Jenny Annie Dots is played Ray Rebel Wilson.
This is nothing to do with them in real life.
I'm just angry at them for portraying both of these.
And you know what?
To the person who wrote in about this conspiracy, you're right.
And I say, if they die, they die.
Right, guys?
Circle back.
It could make it for a more interesting movie.
Like, I know I missed it.
I know you guys went to go see it dressed as,
dogs, I believe.
Yes.
And I was somehow out of town for that.
Unfortunately, I missed that.
No, it's not unfortunately for you.
It's unfortunately for me.
Yeah, it was for my birthday.
And my birthday is hilariously, it's God's cruel joke.
That it's three days after Christmas and a few days before New Year's.
So it might as well be called, no one gives a fuck's day.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd probably be called everyone's out of town's day.
So either way.
It was so fun, though, the group that we went with.
I know.
Oh, gosh.
But I do, I've been wanting this.
see that movie like about once every couple months
I look at Marcus and say hey do you want to have
a couple drinks and watch cats
and every time I met with a firm
no so that means
I can't watch it alone
I feel like something will happen to me
I need a partner so I would
I would recommend
you need at least though you need friends
and you need probably
a bottle of sparkling wine
at least at least
but
I don't know how to like
jump into Marcus
his head and convince him to fucking watch this movie, but he's unmovable.
Even he will, he will fucking love this thing.
It is such a train wreck.
It is so insane from the very beginning.
It is so funny on every level.
It's like you cannot, and it's so good.
It's like the room, you know, you can't, you can't write, you can't, like, set out to
write a comedy like cats.
No.
Like you have to just make it, yeah, it just has to be this shit show from the beginning.
I can't wait though.
The second, if you ever wheedle him down enough to watch.
watch it. Please let me know because I can't wait to hear. I'll put something in the chowder.
Oh my God. That's something in the chowder. Something in the chowder. That's the only way.
If you're listening to this, don't tell Marcus. We have to get him to watch. Okay. Yeah. Also,
I feel like we didn't even talk about with the clam chowder situation where did James Gamer not get stabbed in the face with a pencil by his AD?
Yeah. Didn't that happen? Yes, it was a pen.
Yes. Which is stronger. And then there was a conga line shortly after.
that. That's when I thought it was made up.
I was like, surely
that, but then again, when
things that you think are made up
completely because they're so out there,
the odds are they are probably a hundred
percent true and not even exaggerated
a little bit. So,
that's what I imagine, that they had their
own prom in their minds. Sorry, I just had
to, and I love it. I just had to circle back to that.
Did I say circle? I meant Urkel, did I
do that either way.
We're killing it today. We're killing it.
We're killing a, we're killing a,
I was going to say something about another reference,
but we didn't talk about killing anything today.
Did I do that?
No, just dosing, but try not to dose anyone unless they have your consent.
Oh, la vista, baby.
Oh, but also, it's time for shout-outs.
Shout, shout, shout, let it all out.
Okay.
These are the emails that you wrote in about.
Come out.
Well, read them to you.
Come on.
We've got some amazing shoutouts this week, and if you want a shoutout,
or if you just want to hit us up and tell us hi, hit a Page 7 podcast at gmail.com.
I am starting out my shoutouts today for Michelle.
Michelle wants to send out a shout out for her sister, an ardent page 7 fan.
Elizabeth.
Elizabeth has a massive heart and is passionate about abolishing carceral punishment.
Hell yeah.
She just moved to Philadelphia from L.A. to begin her job search.
I already miss her so, so much.
One of our last great L.A. memories before the pandemic was seeing Jackie Holden and Jake and
Nataly at the region theater.
Liz, I love you and I'm so excited to cheer you on, even if it's from afar.
We'll have to reunite for the next page seven podcast show.
Damn straight you will.
Sisters unite!
A shout out from Joe to their wife, Allie.
Allie listens to your show all the time
while studying for her professional engineer license
and she passed that exam process.
I reckon at least 15% of the credit
should go to you guys.
So congrats on becoming partial professional engineers.
Wow.
What are we getting builds first?
Building?
Out of crux.
Congratulations, Alice.
I'll tell you what, I'll give a yippie kai'i motherfucker to you.
I'm just trying to do different lines.
Lines. Come on. Bring it back.
You're right, you're right.
Bring up back.
Because absolutely calls for some drinks and scientists haven't figured out how to make white claws drink themselves, so I got to go.
Thank you so much, Joe and Allie, for listening.
And I want to give another shout out to Amanda, who wrote in a beautiful talking about,
speaking of, became obsessed with cats, found a gelical name generator and named my whole family.
They now think I'm mentally unstable, which I think is very fun.
But mostly Amanda wanted to let us know that you've saved my sexual soul.
I had a hard and drawn out breakup.
The relationship was longer than half of all of your lives and I'm 40 during the beginning of COVID lockdown.
I had over a year to come to terms with my body and self and seriously thought I would never share it with another person.
But your open and non-judgmental love has seeped in.
I too have decided to contribute to the fun summer activities that you all speak of.
Streets, white, come!
I have never felt so in myself.
Thanks, guys, and thank you so much, Amanda.
The streets will run white with come this summer.
Hell yeah, you got it, dude.
Actually, that one does work.
I'll give him a point.
You see, that's what you needed, guys, a referee.
Yes, and here it is.
Thank you.
One point for Holden.
One point for Holden.
How many points will he get for this one?
Victoria Roden by saying, I want to start by saying,
I love the show and all of you so much, but let's get straight to business.
To defeat the Hans.
She didn't say that part.
My best friend Audrey's birthday was May 31st, and I completely spaced the week before and didn't email you for a birthday shoutout.
Then I forgot the next week.
And here we are now.
Pretty fucking late, but I figured I would still beg and plead for her.
We met almost three years ago and bonded over our love for the LPN network.
And I know a birthday shoutout from you all would mean the world to her.
She was there for me when I lost my mom last year and is an art teacher at a student.
special school for kids with severe disabilities and has such a big heart.
But she's also a messy Gemini queen who loves partying, drama, and gossip.
I love her so much and want to be able to gift her this special shout-out.
I hope she makes it to the show!
We got you, baby, and happy birthday, Audrey!
And I've got one other birthday shout-out for you all, and this comes in from Karen,
who we know and love here on the show.
Hi, Karen!
and wants to give a beautiful love out to Felicity.
I also know Felicity from our social media relationship,
and it is Felicity's birthday.
Karen says the only person who may love page seven even more than me
is my beautiful and wonderful friend Felicity,
who's celebrating a birthday on July 7th,
and since she and I are international best friends
and probably will never be actually able to celebrate in the same room together,
the best gift I could hopefully give her
is a shout out from her favorite podcast hosts.
Felicity and I met through the first.
Elpian community because friendships formed based on following hashtags is a thing now, I guess.
Anyway, we've never met as she lives in Australia and I'm in the U.S., but her friendship is one of the
most important ones of my life and they literally don't know what I would do without her in my pocket
every day.
Felicity, I'm so, so grateful to know you.
Happy, happy birthday for me and from the three coolest people we don't actually know.
Dynamite!
Oh, God, that's too.
points. And that is, whoa, that's two points? That's two points. I mean, that's, I mean,
it's pretty good. It's not bad. I mean, although it is an hour show, so I mean, it's pretty bad.
Well, Nanu, Nanu. You just lost a point.
Nanu, Nanu. I've got to die lied about it being the last birthday shoutouts. I want to give
one more shout out to Courtney's birthday. Happiest of birthdays from Carrie and the Page
Seven crew. Courtney is one of my best friends of the entire world and my only other friend
listens to page 7 and other LPN shows.
So we have an extremely special bond
full of wildly inappropriate in side jokes.
Her birthday is June 13th,
so I was hoping you could give her a big old
happy birthday!
And we've got another birthday coming up
30th, big 30th on June 12th.
Hey, hey, hey!
I'm talking to you, Lauren.
I'm talking to you.
I've really conflicted feelings
about this milestone birthday.
Probably has something to do with my mom
being 29 until she'd turn.
I don't know. However, you've all talked about your experiences with entering your 30s,
and it's really helped me feel some positivity about entering this new decade of life.
Thank you for being the amazing people that you are. I ston you. Lauren, it only gets better,
I promise. It really is crazy. Until you leave your 30s. Until yet. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
It's even better. It's even better. I don't know. I hear a wild tale that our 40s are even better
than her 30s and I'm like, I'll believe it when I see it
and I'm excited for it. Yeah, why not.
15's the new 20. That's what everybody says.
Oh my God, they killed Kitty.
Oh, you remember that?
You can you, he can say that one still, right?
Yeah. Yeah, they killed Katie.
I think the hey, hey, hey is the only one that doesn't track anymore.
No, you can't do that one.
Fat Alberg is the guy's now. Yeah, you're back to zero points.
Oh, wow, you're deducted points.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a constant ebb and flow here that's going on.
Keep him on his toes, just like in those toe shoes.
Crocs, toe shoes, bastards.
Erkling back to the toe shoes.
Hercl back now, young.
What do we do here?
Is it time for the list?
Yeah.
It's on the list.
Sing it to me.
Gotta have that list.
Fifteen big movies that tortured their stars.
Yeah, I think this started because of my worm time with...
Because of the Chowder.
Tenticp.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, it was because of the PCP.
And then I started reading about Shelley Duvall
because of someone wrote in talking about a pop history
that we should do on Shelley Duval.
And yes, we definitely should because, wow, what an experience.
But we're not talking about Shelley Duvall right now.
We're talking about Scarlett Johansson and the Avengers.
Because even the millions of dollars couldn't take away from the fact
that she was so hot while shooting the Avengers.
and I'm not talking about physically, I mean temperatureally,
that the heat gave her hallucinations.
The Avengers was shot in Albuquerque, New Mexico,
not exactly a place known for its cool weather.
For Joansen, wrapped as tight as she was in her tight rubbery outfit.
He got so intense that she started hallucinating while filming a fight scene.
Maybe there's PCP in the Chowder.
I see it.
I understand exactly where Scarlett Johansson's
coming from in the sense of that I remember the one time in Ozfest that I nearly blacked out.
So I get it because I didn't have enough water and too much slip knot.
And that will make you hallucinate.
So I get it.
I understand.
And we should be blaming these movies.
What you talk about, Willis?
I don't know if you can do that one.
I don't know.
I like living on the edge in the same way that Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He lived on the edge.
The king of the catchphrase.
Yeah.
It's in a mud.
That's his new catchphrase.
Because the fake mud
that he had to wear
for the movie Predator,
the pottery clay Arnold was covered with
lowered his body temperature.
Heat lamps dried the clay out
and trying to drink the cold
away made him drunk.
So he's under heat lamps
that dried the clay out.
So he gets drunk
so that the cold wouldn't bother him anymore,
but then he's drunk.
And then the only thing he could do
is grab onto something to control the shivering
while the camera was running.
So what you're saying is that Arnold Schwarzenegger
was laying there shivering and hammered
during Predator.
I think he did a very good job.
Yeah, I mean, he had to bring down his body temperature
because of he would be found out.
So I imagine he's just hiding from the predator.
I get it.
I understand.
That is the conceit of that, definitely that point in the film.
Oh, my God, Predator, right?
Dude, so good.
So good.
And it doesn't really have a catchphrase.
It doesn't have, does Predator have a catchphrase?
I'm gonna eat you.
If I bleed, I can get killed.
Yeah.
I don't think he said that.
Would you bleed to die?
I think Arnold Schwarzenegger said that.
I just, I guess the catchphrase for me is just the guy shooting those giant machine guns into the forest, like, for
a way too long of a time.
It's not really a phrase, but it's just the most iconic part of that movie.
Was that Carl Weathers?
Yeah, it was Carl Weathers.
And by the way, Carl Weathers had to sneak into the gym in the morning
so that he could avoid working out with everybody else
because they were such aggressive testosterone-fueled maniacs
that they would, like, bully you into, like, lifting way too many weights.
And then you would have to go into the jungle for the rest of the day
and shoot under, like, the horrible heat with, like, all this gear on and stuff.
Oh, my God.
It was insane.
Check out Wizard's episode on The Predator.
That's nuts.
Yeah, so I love that this huge jacked-up mussely guy
Had to like sneak into the gym to get his workout in because
When he made fun of that's horrible
No, it was just more like, you can lift more than that
You can lift more than that, you baby girl, you know what I mean?
I was just burst into tears.
Yeah.
Yeah, well John Cloud Van Damme was probably running away,
cried like a little French school girl.
Yes!
I'm French.
When Henry got a personal trainer before the wedding so they could lose weight
and he's just like, yeah, he's constantly, like, screaming in his face, like,
oh, you want to eat rice?
You want to eat some rice?
It's like, Henry's trying to, like, bench.
It's like, Jesus, that's hard.
I'd go to be serious.
I would just cry.
You would do so bad with a personal trader of, like, a traditional one.
Like, you'd have to have such a unique one that's, like, has a, like, a license in mental health.
Yes, I need a therapist slash personal trainer.
Yeah, it's like, all right, as you lift, can you tell me?
about your mother again.
And then he turns into a bartender.
I imagine that would be like the minute the sun sets and then all of a sudden he puts
down the bar and then he's wiping down the glasses and he's like come have a seat.
Let's talk about it.
Must be a professional mixologist.
If you are all of those things, let me know.
I'll hire you as a personal trainer.
I need it.
But what Malcolm McDowell didn't need was these scratchy things in his eyes.
Yes, I'm talking about Clockwork Orange, because I would assume, and it does make sense,
that Malcolm McDowell had his cornea's painfully scratched during the scene that we all remember
in Clockwork Orange.
An anesthetic was applied to McDowell's eyes for the aversion therapy scenes, but as was
usual with Kubrick, the shooting took forever and the effect wore off.
He says, I was in such pain, I was banging my head against a wall.
That, even just, like, watching the scene.
and knowing how crazy Kubrick is
really takes clockwork gardens to a different level.
I watched it not too long ago because I'm like,
I'm going to watch this again.
Yikes!
Nothing you're very, very scary.
Almost as scary is getting hanged for real,
like Michael J. Fox did in Back to the Future Part 3.
During one of the takes of the hanging scene,
Fox missed his hand placement on the news
and was really strung up by his neck.
He passed out,
and hang there until someone noticed
that the movie star was dying in front of everyone.
Oh, man.
That's, talk about a nightmare.
Yeah.
You would be like, all right, I need a person who's just in charge of my life.
I imagine they probably had that.
Or maybe they incorporated that,
especially after the crow, it's in everything.
Like, it's like there's one person, not an intern,
one professional person who's there to make sure you are alive.
and bring you water or to Scarlett Johansett or something.
Yes.
There's enough people in the world to do this.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
I don't understand.
In the same way.
He's such a sweetheart.
I just like all of this.
I mean, I know that we've talked about this before whenever it's like, oh, acting is such a cushy job.
There are oftentimes when acting is not a cushy job.
And when you have to go through a lot of insane bullshit, and of course, you get paid a lot of money to go through the insane bullshit.
but that it's still, I don't know,
there are definitely times I'm like,
I don't know if there's enough money
in the whole fucking world.
Although I would do this like in The Hobbit
when the dwarves got covered in real fish.
No CGI are props in this scene.
Those are actual fish
with all the attendant smell and nastiness.
The actors got stinking juice everywhere
and could barely breathe with such a load of fish
on top of them.
To make matters worse,
one of them actually had a faux
of fish.
Oh my God.
That's awful.
That's awful.
That sucks.
Having to deal with these costumes that I'm going to assume they would have to wear again since
this is a journey story or unless they made specific costumes for them to wear in this scene
so that it could be covered in fish.
Oh, yeah.
No, I hope they did because I was once in a low budget horror movie that never came out and
they only had two shirts for me.
Two shirts.
And I couldn't and I couldn't do anything.
And by the end of the month, I stunk.
And I just kept being like, I'm sorry, I showered every hour today.
But there's nothing you can't.
And then when you get blood on you, you can't even clean yourself.
And you're like, I have to, there's flies on you because they're, I look dead, which
was the point.
But I'm saying, I think your own smell might be almost as worse as a fish smell.
Because a fish smell will linger.
for a while.
You're right.
Like it'll be, it'll seep into your pores and everything.
You're going to have to sit in a sauna for like a day.
Yeah, sweat out that fish smell.
Yeah, just like we're going to sweat out our blind items.
Oh, I think I'm going.
Blind!
Items!
We can't see them.
Fuck!
I can you not see it.
Carolita.
All right.
You're killing it, Carolita.
You're doing an amazing job.
You're killing it.
Caroline Holden Zero.
It's pretty good.
It's a tight race.
You got some swain to do, Carolina.
Oh, whoa.
That threatened us domestic violence.
Tide.
I only have a couple, by the way, today.
We're running along anyway, so that's good.
But yeah, I guess I was, I was like short on blinds.
I think there was just a lot of cocaine happening after a boxing match that happened this week.
What?
A lot of blow after the Logan Paul?
I feel like we.
didn't need to continue to talk about the fight, so there was just a bunch of
like worthless blinds about that. But anywho, these are some fun blinds. Starting with
this blind, I hope you think it's fine. This foreign-born, former back in the day, A-plus
list singer in a group has totally transformed himself. He lost a ton of weight, got new teeth,
got some work done to his eyes and face, and no one would recognize him walking down the
street. All of you know who he is. He was big in the 80s. I,
was never a fan.
He, like, this,
the song he's most known for
is interesting because it's about
kind of a transformation
in a sense of a word.
It's about an animal that transforms.
He is not, his name,
doesn't have a man in his name,
but it's got a different word for it.
Boy, George?
Yes.
Oh, when, I was thinking Robbie Williams
the whole time.
I get, I get it, because, you know,
the Rolodex inside of your mind,
it goes, flit, flit, blit, flibb, flib.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was actually all Robbie Williams
the whole time.
Nope,
still Robbie Williams.
And even that
part Carolina
when I was like
he's definitely not
Robbie Williams
like and you still
thought Bobby Williams
even did that part
of the line.
And I'm like
there's only one answer
to this.
It's still,
it has,
even though he said
it's not him,
it's got to be it.
I still award a point.
Is that your final
answer, Jackie?
Yeah,
boy George.
Yeah, it is
Boy George.
That was just
I attempted
another shoe hoarding
another catchphrase.
Oh, I said it.
You all the weakest
thing,
hello.
Good board.
He also,
By the way, I think I included this blind mainly
because I think this is interesting.
There is a forthcoming biopic.
It is called Karma Chameleon.
And he's hoping that it will tell his true story
and everything about it.
I'm going to throw it out there.
I really don't know that much about Boy George.
He's kind of like the Robert Downey Jr.
Except for without the comeback Ironman phase
of the music scene.
He was just like this drug addict just wreck.
You know, he got really,
hugely popular and then just has a lot of skeletons in his closet.
So I think it can make for a really interesting.
Do you know a little bit more about Boy George, Carolina?
I just, all I remember is just the fun gender bending outfits and like the stickers
and everything because it felt like such a fun positive thing about being like different
and having fun with it and going with it.
I just didn't realize how different and how far it would go.
Yeah.
But that would be a fun biopic or even like a series maybe.
or something like that.
Make it like a British thing.
Hopefully that's honest.
Because I know like I've even seen blinds
about him being a real piece of shit.
So I just hope they,
it's honestly handled.
Because I think it's okay especially.
It's not okay,
but like a lot of this being a piece of shit
is coming from a place of deep,
horrible addiction.
Oh, of course.
So like I'm willing to give people,
you know,
the benefit of the doubt if it was in the,
especially if it was in the throes
of like just horrific and hairwerewell.
when addiction, I think, was like his main thing.
I just, for me, I didn't really pay much attention because I think Carma
Camelian and Culture Club, like the sound was like the antithesis of my personal enjoyment
when it comes to music.
And I think I can go back and enjoy 80s music a lot more now than I did before.
But it was just so like not, it was just, because it was the thing that happened right before
my music, right?
My current music of like grunge and hip hop and stuff, right?
was that kind of 80s stuff.
So I think you're kind of born to load it in that case, usually.
Yeah.
Unless you're different, unless you're interesting,
unless you're not like the other girls.
I was totally not like the other girls when I was a kid.
I even wrote it on my notebook and everything.
So yeah.
Yeah, you did.
I go to the skate parks.
I can't skate, but I just go to them.
I don't know.
I was so cutting edge at the, what, I was 11, 12 at that time.
You were one of the cool moms.
Oh, I was so cool.
So cool.
You still are, Carolina.
Don't want anyone tell you differently.
Thank you.
By far the coolest person on this Zoom call right now.
Oh, yes.
Oh, well, I'm just, I'm barely leading ahead with three points.
So we'll find out.
We'll find out.
Hey!
That's just, yeah, from what's...
Still winning.
I'm still winning.
All right, I loved this blind for the final blind of the day.
This illiterate boy band,
would get hammered drunk and have nights
where they agree to use everything but
toilets to relieve themselves.
Hotel rooms, dressing rooms, buses
inside restaurants. It
was bad.
Backstreet boys? Yes.
Nick Carter is that your final answer?
I'm gonna say it was a backstreet boy.
Yeah, it was definitely backstreet boys.
Okay.
Nick Carter says, I'll tell you this.
There is some shit that A.J. McLean
and I both did that I'm really glad
that social media wasn't around for.
because Justin Bieber couldn't hold a candle to what we did.
McLean said, we would have been in like TMZ's saving grace, bro,
just anything from me being drunk or irate at a club
or me walking naked down the hallway in a hotel for no apparent reason.
I love that they're open about it.
That is so funny.
But it is also so, I just loved how absurd this blind was that like that was their thing.
They'd be like, they get really drunk and they just piss everywhere.
Oh, there are those people who are like, we're so wild.
We're not going to show you, we're going to tell you.
We are wild.
We're crazy.
We were cray-cray.
Like rock star shit.
It's like, yeah, man, you walked naked in the hallway.
Who hasn't done that?
Actually, that happened to me not that long ago when, because unfortunately, when you're
half asleep and you're a little bit tipsy, the door to get out to the hallway, you know,
from the hotel room is right next to the door of the bathroom where I really wanted to go.
And then next thing you know, you're out there in your underwear.
a hallway and you're asking the people in the front, you know, area, the reception desk,
to please let you in. And you're not wearing any clothes.
No. Underwear and tank top. Sleeveless. Well, got to be sleeveless. That kind of let me in.
That got me in. And then they believed me. Yeah. And they had to ask Marcus if I was allowed in that.
They had to actually formally like ask him if it was okay for me to come in. And I'm like,
I got locked out of the hotel room because your bathrooms are too close to the entrance.
Oh my God. That's a hard.
Horrifying, Carolina.
This is my, yes, this is my letter to the Holiday Inn there, the Massachusetts.
Make it more apparent that that's where we piss, Holiday Inn.
Yes, exactly.
So it's not the Backstreet Boys' fault, after all.
It's whoever designed the 100 holiday ends that look exactly alike from each other.
Well, you know, I did put in the word pussy into the slogan generator,
and so maybe Holiday Inn's new slogan should be, it's the push.
Hussy Fizz that does the biz.
That's my new soul.
Believe it once they fix it.
Yeah.
Oh, they will.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to be fizzing all over that biz.
You're so money, Jackie.
You're so money.
Thank you.
I am so money.
I get it.
I know that that was a catchphrase
and you weren't saying that I was actual money.
Lafiz lock a box or chalklach.
I know what I like that.
I know what I'm going to get.
You're going to get the end of the show.
That's what we're going to get.
Oh, because you can't handle the truth.
Here's Johnny.
He's back.
Holden's back.
Don't give him any more points, Carolyn.
Two points.
He can't.
But what he can do is, does he see again?
I can see again, and I am here to say we win.
Everybody wins, okay?
Because bolt, chips bolt.
Wow.
I'll be buck.
I'm just reading them off as I see them.
Frankly, my dear, but give a dad.
I don't think any of any idea.
So hello to my little friend.
Thank you guys so much for joining us today.
And you can send us emails at page 7th podcast at gmail.com and send them to just a love you can over on their Instagram, MJKL Kat.
And I miss them so much and I'm so excited that Carolina, thank you so much for being here with us today.
Now, Carolina and I do a Twitch show together called Glomash.
Gorgeous ladies is streaming every other Sunday over on the Holdenators Ho Twitch channel.
But would you like to please plug anything for us?
Where can we find you, Carolina?
Carolina, danger her dog on Instagram.
That's usually the thing I go to.
Sometimes I go to Twitter, sometimes.
So, yeah, check everything out there.
And the no dogs in space.
We're on hiatus for a little bit.
You're going to enjoy our summer.
And professional friends, it's a really fun chat show I have with Anna, Calvin, and John.
to my best friends forever,
and we talk, we overshared,
all that business.
So, yes, and thank you guys.
Thank you so much.
And thank you for being such a, like,
you know, such a nice loser of this game that I made up in my head
that Jackie wins.
I came in second and Holden third.
And that's usually the best way to finish anything
is by a nice competition between friends.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Damn straight.
Absolutely.
And Holden.
Here's Holden.
If you want to catch me on Twitter,
you're going to need a bigger boat because I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
And you can catch me at twitch.tv.
forward slash hold nader's ho.
But where we're going, we don't need roads.
Okay.
So I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse.
Check out patreon.com forward slash page seven podcasts.
Because here's looking to you, kid, and we want to look at you more.
And we'll look at you more by having you come out to that.
And you're talking to me?
Jackie, you're talking to me?
No.
Also catch me on Twitch.
combe forward slash hold niders ho.
and take your stinking paws off me, you damn, dirty ape,
because I'm streaming Monday, Tuesday,
Friday night.
So go ahead, make my day, come out and check out our streams there.
I think he wins.
That's a chaos.
There you go.
Finally, the boxing match you wanted.
Wow, I am knocked on my ass, and I hope that you are as well.
Thank you guys so much for listening.
We love you so much, and we'll see you guys next week.
Thank you again, Karolina.
you. Bye, guys.
Have a good one.
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