Page 7 - Ep. 417: My Name's Holden, I Like Sandwiches

Episode Date: September 16, 2021

This week marks the triumphant return of Poppa Life McNeely and we goss' 'bout Britney deactivating her baffling Instagram, the VMA's, including Conor McGregor and Machine Gun Kelly's confusing "interaction" and MGK's face suckin' PDA with Megan Fox. We also cover the best and worst of the Met Gala, as well as hints of a Kimye reunion and Met Gala themed BLINDS. Finally, in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner; Are Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck a SHAM?!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7PodcastKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Child arrived just the other day She came into the world in the usual way Oh shit Catch and bills to pay She learned to walk while I was away And she was talking for I knew it and as she grew She said, I'm gonna be like you

Dad You know I'm gonna be like you Don't be like me And the cats and the cradles And the silver spoon I'm not looking at my child. Look at me back. Why is this song?

When you're coming home, Dad, I don't know when we'll be together then. You know what? He's back on 27. I like that I sing this as if you're literally not in the other room. That's the thing. In your home. Right there.

I could vaguely hear her crying if she decides to do such a thing. That's awesome. Yes, I've stepped out of their lives. I even actually made jokes about how I was neglecting them to go to a podcast. But I will say every time, especially back when I was in college or first in New York and I talked to my dad or my brother about coming to visit me, and they start shuffling their feet and being like, well, you know, it's going to be kind of a tough couple months. I'd start just singing that song.

Yeah, there were cleaning the cat. Stop it, man. I'm coming. I'm coming up. I'm coming up. I promise. Oh, it's so sad, though. So how do you feel now that you are abandoning your first story?

It's nice. It's nice. Also MJ is here. Hello MJ. I'm also abandoning my children right now. Yeah. I endorse it. I love this.

I mean, it helps that work is fun, right? For us, I would say, in channel. But I do feel like it still feels like even more of a fun step away than it even used to. This is like fully just me enjoying, you know, because that's how you do it, right? you get out of the parenting responsibility by doing something productive. You can't just say, oh, I'm going to go, you know, slap my balls around until, you know, I feel funny. You definitely can do that. Self care is important.

Self care is important. Yes, of course. No, I do a little bit. I'll play a little street fighter from time to time or whatever. And a lot of times when he's just sleeping on me and I've been watching so much shit at the same time. I've been watching tons of stuff. So, yeah, I'm definitely a hamper. Well, MJ, you said this, right?

Because then you watch tons of stuff, and then you never watch anything ever again, right? Is that how works? I watched, like, well, right, and I don't know. I did watch stuff, but I watched, like, things. I felt like my brain was so fried that I didn't know what to watch. Like, I felt so disconnected. I watched this, like, extremely random British murder mystery on Netflix

that I couldn't tell you. Yeah. If you made me find it right now, I couldn't find it. You know, like, I was just like, oh, the baby's sleeping. I don't watch something, you know, but I didn't know what to, it's like this rushed leisure. You're like, baby's sleeping. Relax, time to watch, you know. That's why honestly, like, my Disney Plus subscription has actually come clutch more so than ever

because it's filled with stuff that's like, turn your brain off stuff or stuff you've seen a million times. Like right now, my biggest one was like, oh, I know what to do during all of this. I just started watching The Simpsons starting at season five. Great idea, yeah. Because that shit can just be on TV. I know that, especially seasons one through like 10 can just any episode. I've seen it a billion times. Yeah, that's a great idea.

It's always on. And I'm giving her a fantastic comedy education. Yeah, right from the start. And now we're doing a lot more music. So we are working our way through T. Swift's entire catalog. I've also been throwing in. I've been getting into Beastie Boys again because of the shout-out. No Dogs in Space, Carolina Marcus's podcast about music history.

I listen to their BC Boys series, which is fantastic. So I'm listening to that. She loves that. And now we're dancing. We're hanging. You know what I mean? So it's like, how do you check out but not check out? Isn't that every parent's dilemma?

Yes, that is every parent's dilemma. Like, how can I just slightly, I need to like escape this reality as much as I can while still being completely present so that everything stays completely safe and able to manage any unexpected crisis or emergency. And yet, as far as you can take my brain away from the stress of this particular situation, take it there, you know?

Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. For sure, it's definitely, it's a mental game. I've described it as torture at points, for sure, and as the city of the dam. For sure. But there's also these wonderful, you know, it's everything. I think it's been everything for me and I love it.

But man, yeah, I have just been slamming down episodes of Rupal's Drag Race. Love it. Yeah, that's great choices, great programming choices. Oh, again, too, yeah, drag race, you can be in it and you can just not because something's being on you, and then it's like, whatever, Rupol's Drag Race. That's great. I think that it's wonderful and I'm so happy. It was so wonderful to meet Winnie and it's so wonderful to see how you are getting into

Papa life. I love it. I looked in the mirror the other day. I was like, yeah, I'm a fucking dad. I looked like such a stupid-ass dad. Oh, and I tried breast milk for the first time on last stream in the left. I saw. It was delicious.

I was shocked. I was, to the point where I'm like, did she put like milk, just actual milk in that thing? Because it tasted just, I was like, put this in my coffee. Yeah. Put this in my cream. Put the breast milk into my own cream. Yeah. It was wonderful.

It is just fat and sugar. It's like, yeah, what's not to like? What's not to like? I mean, that's why they make the breast milk ice cream, remember? And everyone's like, can't believe they make a breast milk ice cream. But all I can think of is that isn't like liquid gold? Yeah. Like you can't waste it.

That's the thing. Well, you know, I mean, those things she's working with. I mean, good Lord. You can fill up, we've been filling garbage bags up lately. We've been selling it to the... Very lucky, though. At least it seems not everybody has garbage bags full of milk in their breasts. It's true.

I actually have a hack. I've been meaning to send you guys holding because I had so many garbage bags full of breast milk that it was hard to store them. But there is like a way that I figured out. But Gideon's still upset about how now there is no longer breast milk in the freezer. But there was just no room for ice. There was no room for anything other than breast milk. And he was like, I really like ice in my drink. could we figure out a way to have ice?

And I was like, no. No. There's no room for ice. It only took two years later, three years later, but now he has his own private ice maker in his at-home office. And so... The way you describe your early parental efforts

does sound a bit like a Dickensian novel. You know what I mean? You're just like, there were no doors in the apartment. That was the hardest part. You couldn't leave. You couldn't enter. You know what I mean? Just like, what?

What does that even mean? You know what I mean? There's just soot everywhere for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. There is no room for ice. There is just room for survival. Oh, God.

But just imagine Pip as a father. And you're just like, shut up, Pip. No one gives a shit about Pip. I hate for expectations. I'm saying it now. But you know what I love? Ah, muzzle, mausel, Mozzle, Britney Spears' engagement.

We got to talk about it. I know that old and your face must hurt from smiling. And I know most of it. because Britney Spears got engaged, and then immediately deactivated her Instagram account. Oh, I didn't know she deactivated the Insta, too. Good. Honestly, like, I love that we're all crowding around and being like, yay, Britney, like, do your thing, let your freak flag fly.

But at the same time, that Insta is weird. Like, I just tried. I thought about the other day, I was just like, if it was anyone else's Instagram, we'd all be going like, what is happening? But everyone has been like, yeah, sweet. Yes, take a close up. Fuck out. Popless photo again, but in like a different lighting.

You know what I mean? You're just like, what is happening? Yeah. Tell me more about what's been going on with her Instagram because I thought I followed her, but I'm quite out of the ones of breasts. It's always been fucking weird, right? It's always been weird. And I think a lot of the concern was like, well, she's being controlled.

But no, I think the more, now that we're seeing the reins come off, it's like, no, I think she's just weird about Instagram. And by the way, that's, That's fine. Yeah, be weird. Yeah. You know, it's like anyone else who's not like trying to have a brand or like thinks about it even in any kind of way, right?

You know, it's like your mom's Instagram. Like if your mom got an Instagram. Got it. Except but also if your mom was taking all, yeah, all of her clothes and holding her breasts or showing how great her asses. And again, you do you. I mean, I completely understand. But if my mom was, if that was my mom's Instagram account, I'd be like, mom can we just,

can we just zip it up just a little bit? I know I'm proud of you and I'm proud of your body and you should show it off. But I mean, her sons are, you know, around like 15 years old. So all I can part of me does think about that of like, but at the same time, my mom's ever been Britney Spears before. So I imagine that that is a whole other way to live your life. But if I saw my mom's Instagram looking like that,

I think I'd ask Linda to have a conversation. And it's honestly, not even the topless stuff that's weirder. The weirder part to me, it's how it's all the same picture and the lighting's weird. And the, you know what I mean? It's actually the way that that stuff's curated that screams like, at the very least, like, I don't know how to use this thing. You know what I mean?

At the very least. And at the most, it's like, I really shouldn't be on social media. The emoticons, which I really do. It's why we all still. look at her. It's like we're all still looking at the pictures, but now it is done. It's over. We can't watch all the filter changes. I don't know how long it's going to last, but I will say that in the article that I sent you guys about it, I do love, I think I'm in love with Sam Asgari, who is Britney Spears's fiance, and I love that he immediately wrote because Octavia Spencer

wrote on Britney Spears's Instagram, sign a pre-up. I love how the article, by the way, it was like, Octavia Spitzer, who's never been married? Like, bitchy, bitchy. Who gives a fuck? Who is? Who has to be married to know what a pre-up is? Yeah. And who Britney Spears is.

Yeah. What a conservator is. Oh, it's so funny. And she just wrote, Make a sign a pre-up, and I love it because Samisgari wrote an Instagram story. Thank you, everyone who's concerned

about the pre-up. Of course, we're getting an ironclad pre-up to protect my Jeep and my shoe collection in case she jumps you one day. That was cute. It's great. That was delightful. That endeared me to him immediately.

And I was like, that was such a artful way to handle that. They've been together for so long, and they've been together since there was no end in sight for this thing. I actually do trust that this is a union of love. I mean, at the very least, he's paid his dues. I don't even care. He stayed with her through the- fucking nightmare.

He stayed with her through all of this. And it seems like he's been, or of course, we will only know so much, but it seems like he's been a fairly present partner for her, which is things she really fucking needs. Now, would you make love to him? Do you find him to be a suitable sort of love man? I can see that he is an, an attractive man, but he is not my type.

That's how I feel. He's kind of like if you looked up like a nice hot man in the dictionary. Very attractive man. Google, nice hot man. You really, right? I don't Google them more out of curiosity. Can you imagine me showing up with someone

that looked like Sam's Garry? And I apologize. I mean, I know that I could. I'm not saying I couldn't. get a man that looks like that. But I think everyone would be like, you like her? That's the one that you. No lie.

I googled nice hot man. And it's a lot of dudes that look a lot like Sam Ashgari. Very attractive. It's just kind of a nondescript nice attractiveness, you know? And at the same time, we got to hope he's got to be a weird dude. It seems like they genuinely have fun together. Yeah. And it seems like she's genuinely weird.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember the tiny chair? Remember before all of this, when I was just so obsessed with the tiny chair that was in so many, for instance, she still has the tiny chair.

I still see it every once in a while. I don't know who sits in the chair. It's a chair. Jaggis for her dolls or mini-mitty dolls. There's not even any dolls sitting in. If there were dolls sitting in, like my mom has at least seven rocking chairs that we can't sit in

because there are like, there's stuff on it, like quills. And it's like, they're beautiful decorative chairs. But I don't think that that little white recliner chair is decorative. We are not. This is my theory, Jackie. On decorative chairs, though.

I know all about decorative chairs. Don't get me started. Well, yeah, unfortunately, MJ, we already went around to every studio in Hollywood pitching her tiny decorative chair show. But no one did. Tiny chairs. They won't catch your hands. She would just sing this song.

Because it's tiny chairs. And everyone goes, yeah. More, make them smaller. And I do. It was always like that scene in Tommy Boy, get out. Do you validate? You guys in the corner of puking his guts out. Oh my God, I just watch Tommy Boy.

Please show Winnie Tommy Boy. It's time for it. Oh, my God. She needs it. But we were, I mean, the thing is old, and I'm so glad that you're back this week. And we've had so much fun. It's a good week.

And thank you again. out to Eddie and to Henry for stepping in in your stead. But this week was a big week to discuss. We've got the VMAs. We've got the engagement. We've got the Met Gala.

There's lots to discuss. We've got the fact that, yes, there will be a grogoo float in the Thanksgiving Day parade. You're welcome. That is. Very exciting

stuff this week. And I guess we'll start with the VMAs, which, you know, I'll throw it out there. Didn't give a shit about him last year. Haven't given a shit about him in a minute. But the VMAins are the place that is supposed to be ripe with controversy. And I do think that this year they have bumped it up a little bit in a way of making it weird as shit. And I was actually, I really, I mean, do you always feel really old when you watch the VMAs?

But I will say I think I felt really old, even. when I was in high school watching the VMAs of like, what do the cool kids? Well, God, I don't understand it. And I was never our native language, you know. Yeah. That's why we do the show. It's to try to keep ourselves

to learn something about these things. And look up some of the VMA outfits. And also, is the Medgal usually back to back to the VMAs? Because that's like a lot for a weekend. It's a lot of looks. And I've been served like I'm playing fucking the U.S. Open or whatever, which I think also happens in.

Sports. But it is kind of a ridiculous amount of people wearing ridiculous clothes. And can I just throw this out there ahead of time, especially with Little NazX, but you see it, I mean, even in this Doja Cat look. Man, fashion's getting anime as fuck. Yeah. I'm here

for it, bro. I just want to throw it out there. If you want to see what a lot of that stuff is inspired by, go check out Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Son. It's on Netflix. It's so and the looks are amazing. And it's a bunch of literally dudes that look like Lil Nas X at every award ceremony

has been at recently and the Met Gala, like mind battling each other. It's so good. But anyways, back to the show. I think, you know. No, I'm totally into. I do. Yeah, that's actually an interesting connection.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because the, like, fashion of itself, and I don't know if it just because last year, I don't know anything really about fashion. It's so interesting, though, how it is connected into what is going on in our society. And right now it's just bad shit.

Yes. I know that we're not going to immediately start talking about Kim Kardashian at the Met Gala, but we're going to talk about it at some point because the thing is that first, in the second, first glance I see of all of these outfits, I go, oh, Jesus Christ. And then you look at it, you're like, you know what? Thank you for being weird. Thank all y'all for being weird because I think that we need more weird there's too much bat shit going on out there that yeah can we talk about all of the looks that doja cat had at the VMAs because at one point she straight up looked like a big colorful worm and I'm here for it yeah and she was so cool about it she was like I look like a worm I love it and I was like this is the stars we need like I like I feel like what I liked about the VMAs was that it just

I think that we spent so much time talking about how many awards shows got it wrong since COVID. And I feel like what the VMAs really does right and always has done right is they have the correct ratio of live performance to award presentations. It's just like every other award there is a performance. And that's what the people want. Yeah. And it also this year has felt just like it had the right tone. It was like Doja Cat not taking it seriously. Little Maz-X not taking it seriously.

It just felt like, it felt like fun, you know? It used to be best on-screen kiss and all these dumb categories that purposely cheapened it and made it the cool fucker, slacker, you know, kind of thing. And I agree, too, about the fashion. Like, it used to be grunge and, you know, flannel. And so I love this, like, how ridiculously colorful.

It's, like, definitely that whole, like, Twitch video game culture as well. What I'm trying to say is, it's my time. It's Holden's time. It's anime. It's video games. It's finally, it's happening. And it's just in your face and a whack ado.

So it's really fun. And it is also fun to have the Met Gala like back to back because Matt Gala is so much more self-serious in a lot of ways. But guess what? The looks are still absurd. So I don't even know what's going on. Absolutely absurd. And some of them really truly beautiful.

but then it's like you look at what like Normani was wearing and it's all this structure and I think that a lot of like what you were talking about Holden now it makes it actually makes a lot of sense of how built out and structured so many of these outfits are and we even see this in our you know in the regular shopping of winter 2021 fashion of just like things like big sleeves bit like big profile like big clothing for people and I you know of course I do think that comes hand in hand with the fact that that like all of us kind of want to hide right now. And like what, what, like, what cooler way to hide than like Casey Musgraves who wore this like huge purple feather hat at the VMAs? And she looked amazing.

And you know what? I followed Chew Glythe on Instagram. And Chewleif as has been doing, it makes me smile a lot, Holden, because it's been making me think about both you and MJ because it's essentially calling people out for big Starbucks, but using the word chugie instead.

Nice. And Casey Mousgraves' outfit in this because she had the red gloves on with the purple outfit, they said it was chuggy because it reminded them of the Purple Hat Society. Do you guys ever have to deal with the Purple Hat women? What is that? Purple Hat Society.

Is that, you got me Googling like Thunder over here? Oh, yes. The society agrees that no one can wear red and purple. purple until their 50th birthday. What? Birthday. Yeah, it's the Purple Hat Society. What?

Who are they? Are they like country club? Or is it the Red Hat Society? I don't even know. There's red hats and there's Purple Hats. Is the Red Hat Society? There's Purple Hats. Tell me about what your relationship was with these people in high school.

They were just ladies about town. No, ladies about. And they would come in and there were off times. I don't know if it's just, I interacted with them a lot because of the amount of older people. Florida versus other places. I'm not sure. And as someone that worked for the library for a long time, I had to deal with them a lot. And this is a, I'm giving you a general statement right now.

There are some groups of the purple hats and the red hats that are a little stuck up. I want things the way that they want them. I'm not saying all of them. But it did hurt me to think about Casey Musgraves in one of these societies. Yes. Red Hat Society was founded in 1998. A founder or leader of a local chapter is usually referred to as a queen. Members 50 and over are called Red Hatters and wear red hats and purple attire to all functions.

A woman under the age of 50 is beaten. Very beaten into the society. And she has to convey her purple bruises as a way to show up, no. You have to get jumped in. If you don't get jumped in, they will find out. And they'll jump you in right there and then. A woman under the age of 50 may also become a member, but she wears a pink hat and lavender attire to the society's events

until reaching her 50th birthday. She's referred to as a pink hatter. And she is beaten, actually. What principles do you night at them? What? Around, what is their organizing principles? What is, what? Getting old.

No, not getting laid. And I think that's what we should do. Is we should switch it up by the time we hit 50. Don't worry, guys, we have something to look forward to. It's called the game. getting laid club. We're going to put on big hats and everybody's going to get laid as long as they consent. And I think that's, that sounds like fun. I think there should be something more of like, rather than getting together just to have a function of like, it's like, yeah, sure, I love a book group.

You know, I think it's great. My mom's in a million different organizations and I think that's awesome. But where's the getting laid organization that we get together and we kiss? Yeah. Also, shout outs to Casey Busgraves and her divorce album. it is very solid and I've been enjoying it. It's good. Oh, yeah, I think it's pretty solid. And it was, you know, she had a divorce and during COVID, during pandemic, quarantine, whatever. I can't remember if I've also screamed at you guys because we haven't been doing talking to you yet.

Both of you. I know I've screamed at you, Holden, but MJU as well. Reservation Dogs, do not sleep on it. You are both going to love reservation dogs. Reservation Dogs is about four indigenous teenagers in Oklahoma that are in, like a group and it is just, it's well written, it is well acted, it is on Hulu, and I love it. It gives me those like, not in a very different way of like Ted Lassow kind of vibes where every time I watch an episode, I'm just like, God, this show is really good.

Okay, well now I have Hulu because I needed to get it for what we do in the shadows. So now the world is my oyster. Dude. And by the way, Jackie, I don't know if you know, but there's a bit of a big twilight reference happening and what we do in the shadows. Yeah, maybe that baseball scene. is getting parody. Great.

Oh my God, what we do in the shadows? My life is all vampire. My life is now all Jackie because it's invading every aspect. We sit down to watch what we do in the shadows and all of a sudden the assistant guy is like watching the baseball scene on his tablet and I'm like, what is happening?

How is this invading everything? But of course it is a comedy about vampires. So very smart of them to take the baseball scene from the first one. And like Matt Berry says, I became a vampire to suck blood and fuck forever. And that, why wouldn't you? Of course I want to be a vampire. I want to be a vampire in what we do in the shadow so badly.

I love it. I love it. And the new season is as good as it ever is. It's so good. All of it is so good. And all of it, you know, a lot of the VMA stuff was a lot of fun. You know, there were some ins and outs. But I got to ask you guys, am I too old for a most?

Oh, sorry. Mullets are big. I feel like, by the way, is Billy, because the one part where I draw the line is, is Billy Elish's haircut actually a mullet? I don't fucking think it is. That's just bangs and shoulder length hair. So we're getting a little confused as to what a mallet is.

Though I will agree that the other people on, where's that mullet article that? Where's that? Miley Cyrus has been rocking the mullet lately. Lil Nas X was rocking the mullet. He looks great. but we think about it back in the day, you know? You think about it Patrick Swayze.

We know Patrick Swayze had a mullet. But I think that, like, Billy Eilish had more of, like, a shag mullet. I know that they said the platinum blonde one, but when she had the green on the middle parts, it seemed like she had more of a mullet-esque shape. And I think I'm too old for a mullet, right? Yeah. I don't think that you personally, Jackie Zabrowski, should do it.

But I don't think that you're too old to, appreciate it or be attracted to it. But I mean, all of, like, they're all children. They're all, like, very, very, I, I, I, I feel so, so old watching the VMAs that I was just like, I don't even, I need to, like, watch this with a 14 year old so that they can be like, that's this person. Like, I need somebody to explain it to me. I'm that. And so the Mollett thing, I was just like, I've just entered this period of my life where I'm like, is this a reference to something that I don't get? You know, like, it's just, it's all just going right over.

Like, why do they all have moths? I don't know. It's the carousel of progress, MJ. Yeah, yeah, I'll hand it down to them. Pop culture is yours, children. Do with it what you will. I personally think that Lil Nas X were living in the presence of incredible greatness. I love the pictures of him wasted after the VMAs.

That was great. And then people tweeted out, making fun of him. And he said, not you shame. a mother on a night out, a new mother on a night out. Right. Yeah, he's doing all the pregnancy videos. I love the pregnancy stuff. As a trans mask identifying person who is pregnant, I am completely pro the him pregnancy stuff. I love his, I loved his VMA performance.

I love the idea that he had gotten absolutely blasted and then had to dress up to go to the Met Gal the next day. Oh my God. But as a friend pointed out, he's 22. He's probably not even hung over at all. You know, and that's when I just embraced the youth and I just said, you know, this is something that I, this is a different era of my life now where I just look at young people and I can just admire them for their youth. Right. And especially like, and I'm talking more about the aesthetic of Prince, but I feel like he's continuing the Prince tradition of challenging the pop norms.

100%. And these stylistic ways that are cheeky and fun and great. and I think the youth is fucking all about it. And I know the youth, right? Because I smoked some cigarettes with a couple of them the other day. Oh, yeah. We sat down. Are you talking about your baby?

Because I don't know if that counts. Yeah, unfortunately, our youth are a good 10 years away from being able to explain this shit to us. I know. I can't wait, right? It's going to be the best. Just be like, just tell me, I'll just sit on Daddy's lap. We're going to go through the page seven already.

I love it that you guys think that 10 years, too, of like, just like cut to, most tweens and teens that I know that are like, I'm not telling you anything. Go figure it out yourself. Slam the door at my face. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but maybe not.

Maybe they'll be lovy-dovey. Wouldn't that be wonderful? No, I think it'll be more like I'll walk into the room, though, just be a bunch of cords directly implanted into their head, and they'll just, like, their eyes will be rolled up. And I'll be like, oh, she's always in the mind-de-pater. You know what I mean? I can't ever talk to her anymore.

She's fucking a talking banana, you know what I mean? Like floating on a sea turtle. Don't watch Black Mirror, man. It'll certainly give you things to be scared of for our future. What they're going to be into. And I mean, I also, before we start talking about the Met Gala, we've got to talk about the Connor McGregor and Machine Gun Kelly fight. Sure.

And how about just the, and the whole look, the Megan Fox, machine and color. I look at them and I'm just like, you know, I just will never be anything close to that on any, it just kind of takes me back to a time in high school where I just felt so like I'll just

never be cool or like under, you know, I don't know. It's so funny how I feel this way about these like people that are just so out of my sphere, but they intimidate that part with the one with they're in the bathroom with the other couple and they're all like just sticking tongues on each other. Kissing weird.

And I'm just like, they're all kissing. Because they're all like, I am on the very, very late train to Machine Gun Kelly is hot town and I'm like, hi, hi, haughty. I think that you're hot.

But then, and Megan Fox is obviously hot. And then in that picture, I was like, why are you guys kissing this way? Like, this is hot. And they always look sad, which I love. You know what I mean? Because again,

that was the cool kid thing from when I was a kid. Yeah. Also, I will say MJ, that Machine Gun Kelly pop punk album that was the latest, release is actually fantastic if you really like pop punk. I do.

I think, yeah, I think you'll really dig that, that album actually. So you should definitely check it out. Okay. I just think it's kind of funny, though. Like, I really truly feel like if both the, you know, the Courtney Kardashian, Travis Barker, Machine Gun Kelly, Megan Fox, if they were 22 years old doing this, like, all right, fine. There's something about them being in their late 30.

early 40s, that makes me be like, you know what? Yeah. Suck on each other's faces. Let's, like, can't we get it into everyone's head that you don't have to be 20 to act like this? I understand. There are times that you're like, with little kids.

Yeah, no, you're not going to be doing this. When you're having like a struggles, you know, medical struggles, you're not going to be acting like this. But they're all rich. And I think it's, like, I do think it's a little funny of how many pictures that like, you know, Courtney Kardashian's legs are just wrapped around. Travis Barker as he's like trying to talk to somebody

and she's just like sucking on his neck. I'm like, honestly, I think it's kind of fun if you just look at it in that way. I think it's kind of fun. Man, it's tech. I think it's a lot. But you know what? They're not hurt in anybody.

Suck on each other. Hell yeah. Wear no dress and suck on each other. Cool. And so I can give a little breakdown of this beef with Connor. It just seems like Connor approached for Shika Keller was like, Saw Machine Kelly, was like, oh, that dude, I love, you know, I'm a fan, you know, he kind of came at him as a fan, had his handout for a handshake, security. And maybe it was literally because Machine Gunn Kelly and Megha Fox, I think they're so oblivious to everything, you know what I mean? I think they're just so, like, whacked out on their love and or pills that they don't really know what's happening at all. But maybe, or maybe they have issues with some of the problematic things about Connor McGregory's got a bit of a rap sheet of like things that you could definitely decide.

like, I don't like that guy, right? Can't really tell there, but Conner McGregor just kind of wanted a picture and a handshake, and Machine Gun Kelly was just like, get this weirdo away for me or whatever, and then that's how the scrap. So it was more of a bodyguard scrap. It was just a misunderstanding between bodyguards. Yeah, the two bodyguard teams got involved. That said that Connor McGregor threw a drink at him, though.

After that, yeah, no, it was, he came with a handshake, and then Machine Guy Kelly was like, too cool for you, bra. I'm too cool for this fucking whole school, dude. And then the bell rang and it was time to go into class. Then Connor was like, fuck that. And then through the glass. But also, Connor McGregor is notoriously, like, he is, he's not a good guy. He's a fairly aggressive and violent man.

And so I would even understand, obviously, we're not going to know what happened between them because we weren't there. But I think it is kind of funny because now his team is like, he didn't do that. Yeah. He didn't fight with him. No, no, Connor McGregor only fights fighters. he didn't fight him. And yeah, there's a lot of pictures of a scuffle that I don't know. Maybe just like the word fight is the key word of like, I mean, he didn't fight him.

Not like an MMA fight. It was more like a, I love the idea that he went for a handshake and then ended up like just the pivot from like handshake. Well, then I'll just throw a fucking drink at you. Yeah, then I will beat your face in instead. I was a fan and now I'm a more. which is great. And to Machine on Kelly's credit, I'm definitely the type of guy

who will always in a situation like that be like, ha ha, hi. Even if I like hate the guy, you know what I mean? I'm just like, oh, you want a picture? Yeah, okay, you know what I mean? I just immediately fold. I have no cahones in that situation, especially against an pro-MMA fighter.

You know what I mean? And then I'd just be like, someone delete that off his phone. You know what I mean? Or something. Yeah. Yeah. And it just, like, it just makes me think of,

like when he destroyed that like he like took a metal, I think it took like a dolly or something and went after this other MMA fart who was in a car, remember that? And he's like slam it against the outside. I was like, man, I don't know if you should be allowed to go to the VMAs, right? But I don't know. I get very scared of violence. I'm immediately like, can't we all just smile?

But yeah, but at the same time, especially in the new world of just, we just throw any celebrity into a boxing ring these days. they eat it up. They love the idea that there would be some kind of a celebrity beef. Because honestly, I wouldn't be shocked

at Machine Gun Kelly and Connor McGregor hit the boxing ring or something in a couple months from now. I would not be blown away by that announcement. You know, we'll see.

But I'll be sitting here staring at the pictures from the Met Gala because they were all across the board and some of them were very, very cool. Some of them were very, very weird. and I get like Kim Petrus's outfit was awesome. Kim Petrus's outfit from the VMAs and MetGala,

if you look at them back to back, unbelievable. I think that both of them are so fun and interesting and weird. And what was the topic for the Met Gala? It was like American... American Independence. Yeah, in America, a lexicon of fashion is what it was the opening for for the newest exhibition. at the Met.

But, like, Grimes' outfit was fucking awesome. Like, I'm terrified of her. Talk about bringing, like, anime styles into it. Like, she looked like someone that I, like, made me think of, like, a,

what do you call them? You punch them. Oh, their side to side. Oh, you're finished. What? Like a bop-um? A heart. A horse heart.

There's a heart in it. It's a video game. Swallum balls. Nicky Minaj. Street Fighter. Oh, Street Fighter. Yeah, yeah. But their way it breaks out the heart, right?

Mortal Kombat? Sure, yeah, they're all the same. What the fuck? No, I would get those too confused, too. I think those are just games older brothers play in the 90s. Yeah, brother games, you know, brother games.

Which is the one where they pull, they finish him and they pull out the heart at the end? That is Mortal Kombat. See, I'm a bit of a nerd now. I think Ella, I like everybody's, except for Ella Imhoff just looks like a stupid clown. You know, they can't all be. great.

You know, if you look at, like, even a lot of people are talking about, like, Aza Brocki and Rihanna, like, Rihanna, like, Rihanna looked cool as shit. She looked very comfortable. Yeah, I kind of like that. I like wearing a quilt. They both looked very comfortable. But it was the same, I believe there was also Balenciaga, who created the Kim Kardashian look.

Now, it did make me think of a little bit of a Peter Pan shadow situation. And I think it kind of would have been fun if there was, like, like, if she was playing her sister's shadow. I know that's not what it's about. It's all about like, oh, like not looking at me, but looking at me. I know it's like a statement. I know nothing about fashion. Can you tell? It's a statement. And it's the same designer that I know a lot of people, like she showed up with another person that was also completely covered. I think at first a lot of people thought it was Kanye, but it wasn't, it's actually the Balenciago designer that was with her. But this is, I believe, like a blacked out version of the wedding dress that she wore

at all these fucking Donda parties with Kanye. I don't understand. I guess they're getting back together. Honestly, I don't care. I hope that they both get the mental care that they need. I know, I hope that he does. But like... Who's saying they're getting back together?

That's the new rumor? Well, it is the rumor because she was at all the Donda performances. And again, too, like, Kanye has been working. The reason why she was, wore this outfit apparently was because this was Kanye's idea for the design. So, I mean, I know, obviously, they're always going to be in there each other's lives because, you know, father of her children, and I completely understand. But of course, the rumor mills are spinning and spinning and spinning out there. But who knows? He did just break up with the other girl that he

started seeing. So this is what I know. This is what I share. There you go. I, of course, I was absent during, I'm sure, what was probably at least an hour of Donda discussion on the podcast, but I did listen to the album, and I thought it was all right. You know, I listened to it too, and I liked it because it just felt like a Kanye album to me. Yep. It was just weird. I just, you can't take it away from him. He does weird, interesting stuff that is also very palatable in a pop sense on an album.

And it is also interesting because you get some can. I think rap lyrics about the whole Kim situation, which I think is also very fascinating. I mean, I'm sure it was on the forefront of his mind. And I guess fur was on the forefront of Billy Eilish's mind because so, all right, we got to talk about Billy Eilish. She's changing up everything that she's doing. I love the hair. I think it's fun. I'm digging the new album.

Of course, I don't like it as much as the first one, but that's okay. because everything was made in quarantine. But I think that it's a lot of fun that she wanted to switch up what she was wearing and how she presents. And that is, I think it's so much fun. Hell yeah, have fun with it.

She's trying to do this like bombshell thing and she is succeeding. So she shows up at the Met Gala and she's got this insane, beautiful, huge peach dress that it took five people to help her get up and down the stairs every time she moved.

But what's really good, cool is that the dress was made by Oscar de la Renta and she only had the dress made by Oscar de la Renta if they agreed that they would never use fur, especially real fur, in the production

of clothing ever again and they said yes to it. You're kidding. Yeah. And I think it's, I think that's really fucking cool. And man. All the things I can say about like, I think it's I've always really liked Billy Eilish, but I like what

she is putting out there and what she is inspiring young people about of like stand up for what you fucking believe in. The second that you are able to, it's like people will listen if you stand up for yourself. That's so cool, man. Like, again, talking about the youth, we're over here just being like, ah, the youth are weird with their mullets. But like, like, it's like, they're killing it. They're killing it. Fucking Lil Nas X. Like, I really am just in awe of like, of him as a, you know, as an unapologetically, you know, out as an queer, black entertainer that's just like doing something that is just so, you know, relatively unprecedented for somebody of his status. And like, you know, I've like been thinking about him so much this week.

And then to think of like Billy Alice just being like, I'm going to use my incredible platform for this like very specific tangible gain. Like it's not, I feel like there's, I feel like a lot of olds, look at the youngs and they're like, Oh, they're all about their trigger warnings and they're all, they're all like posturing and they're all like, wah, wah, wah, babies, you know. And I feel like this, like the Billy Elish thing is such a perfect example of being like,

I'm just going to make something extremely effective happen. Like meaningful and powerful and like, that's just like such a great form of activism for a celebrity, you know, and the limits that come with celebrity. Like, that was really, really good. Yeah. And I mean, I know that it's like, of course, We look at celebrities and there's so many things to rip apart celebrities for.

I see how many people online saw AOC's dress that said tax the rich on the back. And everyone's like, oh, but you're amongst the rich, but you are the rich. She doesn't pay for the fucking ticket. They don't pay for the ticket. It's using your platform to make a statement. And you know what? She also doesn't have to make a statement. And the fact that she chooses to make a statement, I think is great.

If there's one thing I've learned from just scrolling endlessly, I had to start making efforts to take big phone breaks because sometimes you're just so tired and so all you can do is like doom scroll. Oh, everyone's got an opinion on everything, right? I went deep on a fan subreddit of another podcast I like and there was a whole controversy there. And then I realized it doesn't matter what you do or say.

there is always, it's so, you can literally take, you can be like, I like sandwiches. My name's Holden, I like sandwiches. And then someone's gonna be like. My father was killed by a sandwich. How dare you ever say the word sandwich in front of me. Took the words right as exactly what I was about to say, Jackie, verbatim.

Took the words right out of my mouth. And it is so fucking true. Truly erasing people who have been killed by sandwiches. Very upset. Oh, it's like when, It's like when your clique in high school decides you don't like one of the people, then literally everything they do is so easy to hold a mirror up to it and be like, this is why it's bad what they just did.

I can't believe they'd go to the bathroom during third period. Of course they'd do that. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's always going to be things that, like, you know what? You can't do anything about it. And, you know, even to the, the, I have looked into the claim that Lil Nas X stole the idea of his pregnancy, of all of like the idea for Montero from another artist.

And I've been sent that a couple times and I've looked into it. And it seems like it hasn't. And it seems like he came up with the idea with Megan the Stallion when they were working on the song on Montero together. And she has vouched for it. So there are times like this is like anyone can look at something and be like, I did that first. I did.

Like we were talking about this with Olivia. Rodrigo and, oh, my brain. She killed him. John Masters. I made a name. It was John Masters. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The person who was like, oh, God.

Who was it? Why are we old? It doesn't matter. I'm old now. I'm old now. We're old. We can't remember it. Oh, but it was somebody who was like,

oh, I did that. I'm pausing it. We're not continuing until I remember it because my friend. Courtney love. Courtney love. She got him. Oh, I hate King old. That was a great clue.

That was a great clue. Well, my, here's my thought process. I think one of the most amateur moves you can have, like, as a comedian, as a writer, as an artist, right? Is to sit around and complain about, even if, even if they did actually steal it, which they most times never do, you know. But there was always, like, even talked back a murder fist of, like, S&L, like, stole this sketch idea. No, they didn't. And also, your one idea isn't what makes S&LSNL. Like, Olivia Rodriguez is Olivia Rodriguez not because of this one picture of...

Olivia Rodriguez is not Olivia Rodrigo, just because of one picture of like a prom thing that resembles. And by the way, come on, it's Carrie. Yeah, Courtney Love, you took it from here. Pop culture references itself. It's, this is it. Yeah. It's forever, even like you said.

mullets. Like Miley Cyrus said the first person to ever be a celebrity that has a mullet and she's not claiming to be, you know? And the mullet doesn't make her. It's like the combination of all of this stuff. So unless you're like straight up Carlos Mncia, you know what I mean, and you're just fucking prolifically stealing to get your bread and butter, I don't want, I don't care if it's like one little thing. If someone stole your script idea, you never were going to write that fucking script anyways. You know what I mean? So don't even sit here and act like you were, and that's why you're not rich and famous.

It's not that one script idea that kept it from happening. It's the whole body of work and the whole part of where you showed up and you wrote every day, and that's the old man minute with Holden McNeely. Oh, my God, I even realized it's probably time for celebrity conspiracy. Man, there's so many looks to talk about, but I do have some Met Gallup lines coming up. Don't really. Also, if you want to talk further about the Met Gallup lines, come join us tomorrow on the Style High Club over on Twitch.

dot TV, forward slash show. Oh, yeah. It's Jackie. We are going to be discussing it. And that will be at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Check out my Insta if you want the information. So, but that'll be, oh, I guess today, because today is Thursday. So tonight we'll be discussing the Met Gallup.

How do we not even talk about Frank Ocean's little green male? Oh, my God. There's so. many the little green man are so fucking cool. It's so weird. Frank Ocean also killing it, man. Oh my God. It's so weird.

There's so many great looks from the neck out. I'm sorry, I had to talk about Kim Kardashian, though. Because it's great. I mean, how do you not talk about it? That's a great one. That was a really interesting one. All right. It's celebrity conspiracy.

Give me share. Do you believe in? Are Jennifer Lopez? and Ben Affleck a sham? How dare you? They both wore masks at the Met Gala, and I love them. How dare me indeed?

How dare me indeed? But let me pontificate a little more, shall I? No. This is actually, this came in from Kristen, who just linked this amazing article on Esquire magazine. Esquire, I didn't even know you were up to these kinds of shenanigans

on your online magazine, and I want more of it, all right? Because this is perfect page seven fodder. And thank you, Justin Kirkland, who wrote the article. Definitely Google it. There's even more in there, and it's a great article,

but I will just say here's the theory. Back in 2002, Affleck and Lopez were in the throes of their famous romance, and J.Lo made a music video for her hit song, Ginny from the Block, that featured the couple

at a restaurant and on a yacht, and while being hounded by the paparazzi. It was very interesting. And he touched her butt. Are we alluding to some current things, maybe? Cut to 2021. And the sudden romantic reunion

of the Sleb couple. While most are just elated to see them rekindle their fiery romance, others have noted they may just be doing this in order to recreate the historic Ginny from the block music video as the upcoming 20th anniversary is upon Stutz. Also though, 20th anniversary, y'all. Y'all, how crazy is that? But also, but also look at these side-by-sides listeners at home because it's ridiculous, the same angle, everything from the video.

Justin Kirkland over at Esquire magazine has the scoop. He writes, on May 24, on an episode of the podcast, Busy Phillips is doing her best. Writer Cassie St. Long. Love you, Busy. Love you. Theorized that after Affleck was seen wearing the same watch

from the Ginny from the Block music video, there was a chance of Lopez and Affleck or just doing a shot-for-shot recreation of said music video for the anniversary. I mean, just a theory. Later, on June 14th, the couple were at a restaurant having their first public kiss, and fans notice that, wow, is that interesting?

They're seated the exact same way as the video. Even the angle of the camera is the same as the music video. It seems like everything's mimicked completely to recapture the moment in the music video where they're at the restaurant sitting in the booth. The real kicker is the recent yacht photos. Holy shit. It is the same. J-Lo's on her stomach, bends next to her on his side, his hands on her ass.

It is all the exact same positioning, the exact same camera. angle everything about it is the same as the jenny on the block video so i ask you this is this just some putrid ruse to defy our minds so that we end up rekindling our love for the jenny on the block music video jackie say it's the truth jaggy i know you want to say it's the truth right now jackie duncan fucking donut I hate what you're saying. I got to say that I have been a little bit skeptical of this love the whole time. Are you turning your back on me right now?

I think I'm more holding steady against my deep distrust of Ben Affleck. How am I supposed to turn away from all those feelings so quickly? Just because he's back with this super hot lady I love. You call him me a flip-flop? right now? Because I'm feeling you're calling me a flip-bop right now. I'm just saying that you would be very good of running for politics. Wow.

Give me the vote. I will make you a sandwich. That's my platform. I'll make you a sandwich. Give me your vote. And, um, oh no, but then, oh, God. How dare you meant to say you'll make me a sandwich? Mayor Zabrowski, I refuse.

It up again. Wow. It was a very big sandwich. I don't think it's true. I don't think that it's all a publicity stunt. I do. If we find out this all simplicity, I'm gonna, I'll die, I'll be dead. M.J, what do you think?

I believe. I'm 100% of believe her. Yeah, of course. The world believes it. All right, well, hats off to y'all. I hope I'm wrong. Another celebrity conspiracy in the can. I want this win for you, Jackie.

I do. I want to be wrong about how much I don't trust Ben Affleck. I want it to be my problem, not his problem. I will eat my hat if we find out. I will. I'll find a hat. Don't we know that hat is made of cheese? I've seen your cheese hat.

Of course you're going to eat it. I want to eat it. But my belly would hurt if I ate the whole hat. And then I would be able to tell you that yes, maybe it is true. But for right now, we've got a list to get into, please. Who's on the list? It's Jagging! Gotta have that list.

Ooh, famous movies that have inspirations we never knew about. I guess, you know what, it is interesting, the full circle of, I guess we refer to JK Rowling now as she who must not be named, but she who must not be named, apparently Dolores. Actually, to really piss her off, we refer to her as they who must not be named. Yeah. Why hasn't that become a thing? I guess because we don't want to talk about her anymore.

But I do want to talk about this because I actually did not know this. The Dolores Umbridge was inspired by one of They Who Must Not Be Names's Teachers. That apparently, Rowling even took the woman's love of twee accessories like a tiny little plastic bow slide or pale lemon in color for Umbridge. And I can't imagine having a teacher that was like that. And that's why I think I needed to read this because it was like, I would flip, like, especially if she was also mean, I'd just be like, oh, and your little

accessories. I, fuck it. I love the villain Dolores, umbrae. She's great. Because of exactly that. It reminds me so much because, you know, I think we both have a lot of experience, you know, definitely in Charlotte, North Carolina, very cook or cookie cutter southern life, right?

And that means you had a lot of bullshit southern hospitality and a lot of people like Umbridge who would smile in your face and, oh, talk so nice to you. and you know they were just the worst. And ooh, it made you so mad because, ooh, they acted so sweet and kind. And everybody was like, geez, great. Yes. Ooh, oh, I love this villain so much.

That's cool now. Especially secret, bitch. Like, that is a thing. You know how I feel the moment you walk into a room I'm in. And I'd rather be like that than be fake to anyone, you know? Yeah, they always say, Jackie, she wears her feelings on her tits.

Oh, my. He's got the space for them, y'all. But do they have space for Grogub? We're not talking about Grogu, we're talking about Grogu's father? I don't know anything else Star Wars. Yoda. Grogu's father. Every Star Wars person is just screaming right now.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, actually, I don't know if we know where Grogu came from, so you could probably, you could be right. Maybe. Maybe I'm being Yodaist, and I apologize. but apparently Yoda was partially based on Stuart Freeborn, the guy that brought him to life. Freeborn was a Hollywood makeup artist who had worked on the Star Wars franchise

and it helped design Yoda, basing him on himself and Einstein. And I think that's a bit of a reach. I think it's kind of fun to be like, you know what, I'm going to make it look like me, but also Einstein. Would you make sense? But also because I guess he's very smart.

But he's old? But he's smart. I'm just letting you talk this one. I'll talk about it all day. I know all that you're. Their brother and sister. Spoiler. Well, actually, it's the same voice actor who did Yoda and Piggie, Miss Piggy.

Miss Piggy. It's Frank Oz. Yeah. So Lexi said the other day I was watching Star Wars, she was just like, I only hear Miss Piggy when I hear Yoda talk now, and now I only hear this. I said this to me, like, whatever the last time we watched Empire Strikes Back. And I was like, don't you just always think of Miss Piggy when you hear Yoda's speak and Gideon was so upset. He was like...

Especially at Harvard, Darth Vader, and Yoda, and Yoda just goes, hi-yo! I was just like, that is why, Miss Piggy. I mean, Frank, and it's funny because Frankas did a huge variety of voices. Like, he's not like a one-voice guy, but it just... They were very similar voices, and I will always hear Miss Piggy when I hear Yoda and Star Wars people do not like that. Don't give me this.

father. Really upset. It's very, it's kind of funny. I tried not to be a little sister all the time, but there's things like Star Wars that man, people just go from zero to a million. And they're like, you know that that's not what it is. Do I? Boopsie boops.

Kirby. Curney. Did you know a scene in Goodwill hunting was based on Matt Damon's brother's life? What? What? Wow. When he was visiting MIT, his brother Kyle, wrote an elaborate fake equation on a blackboard in the hall.

And it stayed there for months. Isn't he so bad? Kyle Damon. Kyle Damon. But also, oh, this is kind of bad. And you know, I've been, I'm still in the Sopranos. Because soon, soon the Sopranos movies will be coming out. And also, I do need to throw this out there.

And immediately, and thank you guys for writing in, MJ, we were wrong last week when we're talking about, like, I don't know if anyone's ever played their father like that before. Straight out of Compton. Where's our fucking brains? Yes, straight out of cotton. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah, yeah. It's getting a lot of comparisons because of that exact situation. Yeah.

And Jeff came in after listening to the episode, and he was saying, you wanted to bang Ice Cube Sun so bad and you don't even remember. remember straight out of Compton? I mean, I still do. Oh, go see Ingrid goes west. It's so good. And also, of course, Michael Consuelos and Mark Consuelos, which was another one we really missed from Riverdale. Well, you know, but also that's, you know, I think that that's,

I don't know if I can compare, and this is me saying it. Hiram Lodge and Riverdale to the Supranos. To Tony's surprise. You're right. They did also play each other. But the godfathers, Johnny Fontaine, was based on Frank Sinatra who hated it. Of course. Sanatra hated it so much that when he was introduced to godfather writer Mario Puzzo,

he just said, I don't think so. I don't want to meet him. And it's just so funny because it's like Italian Americans worship the godfather for the most part. And that must have been such a stake in the heart and also worship Frank Sinai. Yeah, and also, no, Sinatra had mob ties, but whatever. I think that's probably why he's frustrated because. But yeah, I could have actually pointed that out just watching because he's so clearly like, it's great. The character and the thing is like, you know,

wants to be this big famous nightclub act or whatever, but he has to, you know, this producer's keeping it. It's the horse head part or whatever. And then that's what gets him into Hollywood. It makes him successful because the copse, the mob put the horse head in the bed. And then the man was like, oh my God, there's a horse in the bed. New guys at the corner puk in his gun town.

Ugh. Weel, wheel, wheel. Oh my God. All because you wanted to save a little money on break flu. Oh, I just imagined him with the roll. Roll. And then I smash. I smash.

But the NBC musical production, yes, I am bringing it back. And I think we should start watching it every year, guys. The NBC musical production of Dr. Seuss is the Grinch. Which, of course, we remember, was inspired by the Joker. That's right. This is the real reason why I included this list is because I wanted to remind you. you guys, that the holidays are coming and we're going to have to watch Dr. Seuss as the Grinch every year now, I guess.

Sure. We'll do a Twitch watch. It is one of the most abominable things I've ever seen. And, of course, it was inspired by the Joker. Matthew Morrison, the Grinch actor said he took a lot from Joaquin Phoenix's performance in The Joker. And, oh, man, it showed. I, and I've got one more gold finger.

from James Bond was actually inspired by a real person. The inspiration named Erno Goldfinger was an eccentric architect who bullied people around him. So basically he supplied more than just the name. But can you imagine hiring an eccentric architect named Erno Goldfinger? And I don't think he probably said his name like that, but how could you not? I hear that.

But that's the list. Well, I wish I could serve up some fucking look. but I think I'm going. Blind! Items! Oh, we can't see them! How can I serve you looks if I'm going blind? I don't know.

Met Gala blinds. I think I get it. Oh, Met Gala blinds. Yay! And they are always fun because they're not... I love seeing all the youngs that were invited for the Met Gala this year taking pictures, even though they are not supposed to take pictures.

They are not supposed to post the pictures. I know. The party pictures from Instagram are. That's the best thing about the way we live now. Love it. Well, here's a big hint. to start, all of these people in these blinds we have not yet spoken about.

And I'm kind of surprised a little bit. The next big clue for this first blind is this is a weird-ass crossover a little bit between you two's thing and my thing. And you'll know what I mean just a little bit. So dig deep on what may super apply to YouTube. Yes. This almost network actress who finally got out

of the miserable relationship with her co-star was spotted getting very cozy with the tech. technically still married manager of numerous singers. Lily Reinhardt. And who's the manager? The manager of numerous singers who I hate. Taylor Swift's manager. No, not Dr. Luke.

Not Dr. Luke. Oh, Scootie. Scoot boot. Scootty, Scootty, Scoot. And Lily Lil. Kissed in under a big, on top of a big old hill. But I will say, though, Lily Reinhard's dress was not only beautiful,

but all of the flowers on it represented all the flowers of the states. And I think that that's a bit of a fun nod, especially since it's all about American fashion. Well, Scootabron's going to steal her master's. No, not her. Does she have a master's degree? I don't know what she's. The songs.

Well, if she starts making music. She has a song in there. So it would take all her singing parts from all the bad musical episodes they did. Oh, shit. We didn't talk about Dan Levy either, which I really wanted to talk about that. All right. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it on the Twitch.

Come hang out on the Twitch. We'll talk about it. I think you look crazy, but again, very Jojo and I'm here for it. So I love it. I love the colorful and sane looks are fun, except for the red clown woman. I think she looks silly. But what do I know? Because this is my problem with fashion is it seems like every time I'm like, oh, that

looks insane and terrible. And then everyone loves it. And then when I'm like, that doesn't look like shit or that looks amazing. And then everyone's like, what a faux pa? I'm talking about Bjork's swan dress, which I still stand by as a fantastic fashion choice. Oh, yeah. It was cool as shit.

Next up, I kind of want you guys to guess who this is. So I'm not going to give any hints at first because I just want to hear who you think this might be. This actor was all set to try and urinate on a tree at the party when he was stopped by security. Who would you think that would be knowing who went to... Justin Bieber. No, good guess.

Remember back in the day? Remember when he pissed? I'll never forget when he pissed. pissed in that poor worker's mop bucket. I'll always hold that against him. I can't not. Really makes me upset. How dare you?

We had to wash the fucking floors. He's got to go pour all of it out so we can wash the fucking... Um... I hope it's not Timothy. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Of course, he was wearing sweatpants and converse, and I know that we should. I know, I understand that's a different thing now. And I know that technically he looks cool.

But at the end of the day... Look at what Dan Levy is wearing and then look at what Timothy is wearing with the sweatpants and the converse. Yeah. I got to look up, Timothy's. I'm old now. That's an outfit.

Technically, he looks really cool. I know. It's a look. Oh, yeah, I like it. I don't even like it. I mean, I always suck of her converse. But I like it. But he's just going to piss?

He was going to piss? He's pissed? He's pissed? Yeah, he's going to pee in a, and it said a quote tree. So I think it was a fake tree as decoration. Oh, that's a bad move. Don't pee on a fake tree. I hope that he was honestly.

I'm going to say this, so faded that he thought it was a real trip. I feel like, even as you say that, I'm like, I mean, I just remember watching someone try to pee off of the side of a roof party. And then the wind came and took the piss and got piss all over everybody. So sometimes you piss in the wind. All right. Or that time I was drunk, I pissed in a bush. It all splattered right back in my pants. Look like I pissed myself.

I had to go home. But I definitely can imagine getting drunk enough to be like, that's a tree, that won't harm anybody. Right, I just got up in it. I just got way too up in it. Visibly not a real tree. I was like, oh, I don't want anyone to see my dick, so I get like way too far up in this bush.

You know what I mean? I mean, honestly, I do kind of get it. And I'm sorry I yelled about the converse in the sweatpants. It's so. No, it's silly. No, it's fine. It's silly. This last one is the editor snubbed,

the A-plus list TikTok star, who wants more than anything to be an actress. Addison Ray. And who would the editor obviously be if it's a med, Gallup line? Wait, I thought that she was invited, though. I don't know. Was she not invited? Was she not there? Why would she not be there if she had been invited? Oh, I think that she

was there because she was like, I remember the look was like... Oh, no, it's just that she was snubbed by the editor. Who's the editor? Just like in person? Was it Anna Wintour? Probably. Yes, Anna Wintor apparently turned the cold shoulder. Because remember when we were talking about this is another blind item of Anna Winter was trying to bring the youth and trying to include

like the TikTokers and stuff like that. Right. But it's hard, girl. Like, you can't just like, you can't just jump right in with someone with like, Anna Winterer. Like, at the end of the day, you know, you should be proud that you got invited.

That's really cool. You're working really hard. But like, Anna Winterer is like notoriously one of the meanest people. Like, or shrewd people. Yeah. Why would she talk to her? Yeah.

Edison Ray probably hasn't even seen the devil wears product. Whoa, she might not be old enough. I know, that's the thing. She probably wasn't fucking boring. Can I start making old people jokes? We can make old people jokes now, right? I'm like, yeah, yeah, if she's off the bottle, baby. Get ready for it.

They're only going to get worse as time goes on. Agreed. Also, I can serve up looks again, y'all. I can see a couple things shocked. We didn't spend more time talking about swollen. and balls on this episode. I know. I'm sad we didn't get into it.

Honestly, it was for the best. We were having so much fun that look up Nikki Minaj talking about. Yeah, I guess everybody else is screaming that too because like anti-VAC. The country of Trinidad and Tobago is trying to do damage control. It's like an international incident now.

There have been like, they had a press conference being like, we don't know what she's talking about. There's no case of this that we can find and confirm. Like the local, there's great clips of like local news being like, what are you doing, Nikki Minaj? But then Tucker Carlson covered it.

And then Nikki Minaj shared Tucker Carlson with like the bullseye emoji. And everyone was like, no, Nikki Madaghy. She's a white supremacist. No. And now I think she's responding to that. So it's really spiraling. It started off just kind of like a, that was a great tweet. Why did you say that, Nikki?

Why did you say that? And now it's becoming a much bigger ball than it was. It makes me sad. Between that and Norm McDonald also just throw that out there. RIP. I know, RIP. Yes. The comedian's comedian.

Like he was called that for a reason. Yes. And look up, honestly, I'd send you guys this interview. And it is really good. It's such a good interview. I read it. It is a, oh, that is a picture of Alice from Twilight. You know, sometimes it just include her in some of my emails.

If you look up this, it's a vulture article called in conversation, Norm MacDonald, just talking about how the changing of the tides of comedy and what he's like one of those old school comedians that I have not heard any bad things about, which is great. Sad to say that it's few and far between. But RIP, we love you. Yeah.

And it's time to sing the shout-out song. Shout, shout out, shout out. These are the things that you wrote him about. We read it. them to you. Come on. While you were gone, we did turn it into a dirt. A bit of a dirt.

We would just take it very slowly. It's got a peppinette step again. I like it. Please, we should. We don't need to sing it that slowly, but I like it. It's dirge-like quality. It just fills my heart with joy. I wanted to start this off by saying

thank you so much to Chloe, who wrote in. They sent in no shout-out, but just a thank you for reading the show. shoutouts. They said, thank you for sharing all this positive energy every week. It's so inspiring to hear about other listeners who contribute so much to their communities, have made such progress in their lives, and have so much personal growth to celebrate. I'm so proud to be a part of this ridiculous badass fandom. Shout out to all you other listeners out there who are kicking ass and motivating me to keep fucking going. Hell yeah, Chloe, I love you so much.

Thank you so much for writing in. And all of these shots. It's always just, ugh, it puts such a smile on my face. And thank you guys always for sending in shout-dows. Let's jump on in, because it's somebody's best freaking friend forever bitch's birthday in the house. Ainsley is sending love to her bestie of 22 years, Jesse, who's celebrating the big 2-9 on September 20th. She says she is the absolute chillest and kindest person I've ever. known. She's the reason I started listening to LPN back in 2016, and our love for it has brought such bliss to our friendship over the years. The pandemic has been super shitty for us both, but she

somehow manages to always make me laugh the hardest and never fails to just make my day. Get you a friend that knows you better than you know yourself. It's truly a treat. Thank you so much Ainslie, and happy birthday, Jesse. Won't you stand by me? Oh. Stay out by me. Oh, stay now. Bo-Doo-Doo, stand by me. And sad girl, energy unite. Adorable Kate Lee has written in Descent 30th birthday love

to her beautiful birthday friend page. She says we met when she and another friend of ours scooped pieces of me up after a bad breakup and smushed me back together. Oh, girl, we've all been there. We bonded over our love of LPN. our sad girl energy and our fascination with all things weird. She introduced me to page 7 four years ago, and we just saw the last podcast boys at Detroit.

Congrats! I couldn't be more grateful to her or for her friendship. She's a truly interesting, clever, and kind person that deserves the best on her birthday. Please wish her a birthday full of happiness and a big, juicy congratulations on officially escaping her 20s. We did it, guys. say goodbye

the 20s but some people are in the middle of their 20s just like this another brother's sister beautiful friendship love shout out it makes my heart sing I love brothers and sisters she says September

20th is my big brother Andrew's birthday he is literally your guys's biggest fan he talks about you guys like you've been friends since middle school and recommends your podcast to everyone like he's getting paid sponsorship. Anyways, it would be amazing if you'd wish him a very happy 25th birthday.

He's acting like he's ready to be put in a retirement home already. Ooh, Andrew, I completely hear ya. Faith, thank you so much for sending in birthday love to your brother, Andrew. And also his TikTok account is Andrew Linsky, L-I-N-S-K-I, if y'all want to check it out. And oh, my God, there's more sibling love. I love you guys Sheney wants to send a birthday love shout out to her sister Gretchen

Oh my god, this is sick as fuck, all right? Sheney and Gretchen and Gretchen's sister Rachel parent trapped the shit out of their parents and I love that but also Jackie stop now we're just dreaming about Dennis Quaid It's almost Gretchen's birthday and Sheney says

Gretchen got me hooked on all things LPN and I truly cannot thank her enough With her birthday coming up on September 18th I thought what can I get this incredible woman who gave so much to me? Money would probably be nice, but a happy birthday from Jackie might slip me into the favorite sib spot for one glorious moment. Gretchen had a shit ear like us all,

but specifically because she's had to isolate more than almost anyone I know. Working in oncology in Buffalo, New York, let's go Buffalo! Having a mother with multiple sclerosis and having an autoimmune disorder that increases her own risk of infection. she's lived the past year in fear, isolation, and disappointment. Alas! I want her to know that things are starting to look up! Her family loves her so much, she's the best aunt to her niece and nephew.

She spoils. Seriously, you cannot. You're making the rest of us look bad. And as long as there are people like her in the world will all be okay. Oh, but a person in tears, happy birthday, Gretchen! And your cissy says, see you soon. Oh, my, my, my! It's your birthday! It's Maya's birthday, and not only does she get a 23rd birthday shout out, but she also gives a plug for her sick Etsy store. Maya says I'm turning 23 and working really goddamn hard to get more business going on my Etsy page for custom wood burning.

Y'all, look up this Etsy page. It's sick as shit. And the link to her shop, it is Etsy. Lookup Cut ya Bangs. C-U-T-Y-A-B-A-N-G-Z. because I am infamously known by all around me that I am the bangs queen as in the haircut. I thought it was silly, but in hindsight, I realized shop titles usually have something to do with what they sell, or maybe, you know, you just love to bang it out, which I completely understand.

But please, please, please go check it out. Cut your bangs. Sick, custom woodburning art. It's amazing. And also, speaking of another awesome business, Joel wrote in to send a shout out to his bestie Dana. He says, I just want to shout out my best friend Dana. Over the span of the pandemic,

she decided she wanted to start an interior design business called Armadillo Decor. She started by upscaling furniture and is now designing rooms and houses for people. She's such an incredible eye for design and decor, and I'm so proud of her for doing the thing and kicking ass. But also, Armadillo Decor, sick. Girl, your portfolio is amazing.

Oh, and best friend, shoutouts makes me smile. And oh my God, Adam, Adam, Adam, you beautiful soul. Danny, I need you to know that Adam wrote a long, so fucking sweet anniversary email, and I can't read all of it, and I wish that I could, and please ask him to read it to you for me. And also, please, please, please teach me how to blow glass, please. But this is the shoutout that he did right. Danny, I can't imagine my life without you. You're the baddest bitch I've ever met, and I'm so looking forward to the next 100,000 years with you. I promise I'll scratch your back every night. Always order tater tots when it's an option.

Find you new books to read. Put my phone down even if I'm not into what we're watching. I'll go down on you six times a day and always cook your steak medium rare. I fucking love you, Danny, and I always will. Your goon of a boyfriend, Adam. Danny, you better watch out. I'm going to start dating Adam. I won't.

Jeff, I won't. I won't. I promise. But you're very close second to Adam. Oops. But look, it's another shout-out. And it's an adorable shout-out because Alex has written in an anniversary shout-out to her real-life.

One true pairing, Carolyn and Ryan, whose one-year anniversary is on September 20th. She says, Have you ever had friends whose love makes you so happy that you find yourself crying in your car anytime you make their drive to see them? Carolyn has been my Bay One, since day one. Always a champion for mental health

and encouraging everyone to become untamed! Ryan is the holdin to my Jackie and someone that you could only hope your best friend would marry. Together, they are an unstoppable team, always lifting up those around them. Over the last year, they've adopted

their sweet cats on Bowie and bought their first house, complete with a creepy murder shed for me to live in. Now that I've read it on the podcast, you can't tear it down. They're living the dream that so many of us have, and I'm so honored that I get to witness them navigate life together. Happy anniversary, Legale's chicken ego!

I love all of your friendship and love! And y'all know I love a self-shout! And Jess, this one goes out to you. I'm so proud of you, and damn straight you deserve a shout-out. Enjoy your golden birthday. This is going to be a great 26th year for you. I can feel it. through the most adorable kitten tacks I've ever received.

Thank you for the kitty picture. And thank you so much for hitting us up. And please deep throat a mayo dog for me on your birthday. I need it. Happy 26! And last but not least, I need to just send a little bit of love out to Katie. Thank you so much for writing in, and I'm so sorry to hear about Elton. And Elton is such a great fucking name for a cat, and I love Elton.

Even though I never met him, and I love you, and I hope you feel. better. And wherever you are, Elton, I love you. And I love all you guys too. And thank you guys so much for writing into us. That is page seven podcast at gmail.com. If you'd like to shout yourself out, shout a friend out. We're keeping the positivity going. And thank you guys so much for sending in the love. And thank you so much for joining us on page seven this week. Oh yeah. Welcome back, Holden. I'm so happy to be back. Holden. We miss you. This is so fun. This is actually even more fun now. This is really, really a blast to do this with you. That makes me so happy we miss you.

And MJ, thank you so much for being here. And I know that you have children as well. And it doesn't mean I love them any less. Yes. Well, Winnie can take the spotlight now. My children are walking and talk. When I had a baby Winnie's age and I would see children my kids age, I would be like, those children are adults. They can probably do everything. They have all these skills and emotional regulation skills. And now I'm like, oh, there are still babies. But, you know, someday these three babies will meet and play together.

And that will be very sweet. That'll be very sweet. And I can't wait for it. Thank you guys for joining us. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You could follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. And come and hang out over on twitch.tv. Oh, no, it's Jackie.

We hang out Tuesday. and Thursdays, we talk about sex, we talk about fashion, and soon I'm going to continue to force Jeffrey to continue to play not only Monster Prom, but Boyfriend Dungeon. Hell yeah.

Where you can fuck the swords, MJ. The swords turn into men you can fuck. Okay, right? I'll play. Check me out, Twitch.tv. forward slash Holdenaders Ho. The Friday Jackend stream is back, baby. My Monday and Tuesday streams

will slowly return on the regular, but I will be popping in on some extra stream time. and plan some stuff in the meantime. Once until we get this baby, to sleep through the night. Yeah, there you go. That's me.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. M.J. I'm MJ. And that is why Holden could have all of our sympathies now, because after a long journey, I do have two children who sleep through the night, and that's why we are in very different places mentally. Yes.

And you are in the hard place, but they will sleep through the night one day. and my children are very sweet and sometimes I post pictures of them on Instagram and you can follow me on Instagram at MJKLCat. We love you guys and we will be back next week. Bye, everybody.

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