Page 7 - Ep. 438: Garfield's Not Dead

Episode Date: February 24, 2022

This week we're gossin' 'bout getting used to being open breasted, Kanye West and the art of throwin' stuff, defunct Shamrock Shake bearing McDonald's Land Characters, MJ's multiday House of Gucci experience, Britney Spears upcoming tell all book, MJ ponders how the pandemic changed reality tv, Christine from Sister Wive's new cooking show called  "Cooking with JUST Christine", the troubling framing of "I am Shauna Rae", R. Batts lying it up all across the interview circuit, Judd Apatow daddin' it up on his daughters Instagram, Daniel Radcliffe being totally recognizable, and in celeb conspiracy corner;  is Garfield DEEEAD!?  And a list of what could have been, the Blindz and SHOUTZ! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I will not Miss my energy I am here I thought you're in a good mood I'm smiling I'm smiling what do you mean Sing Jackie sing Yeah oh okay

I'm going to a song That you know what Things are getting a little dark For old Jacko for a bit And then twice In the wild I heard this is taking you back I can see a new horizon

Underneath the blazing sky I'll be going to be all mad in motion. All I need is pair of wheels. Take me where my futures line. St. Elbows fire. Twice in the wild. In the past two days. That is an accomplishment.

It's finally my theme song. There's a lot of songs on your yacht rock playlist that you hear in the wild. You know, the Celine Dion certainly is probably at the top of that. But like, I never heard. St. Elmo's Fire in the wild. Like at the grocery store? The other day, I was in a grocery store the other day

and I heard this song, St. Elmo's Fire 2. It's the second movie in the series. I don't know if anyone would want to watch the sequel. No one wants to see the sequel of St. Elbow's Fire. People barely want to watch St. Elmo's Fire.

I remember I also was in the CVS the other day and I heard, Joe, Joe, versus Volcano. You are being mean no right now. And it's just because I feel better. And so technically, I guess I take that as a compliment. You're being a meano right now. Of course.

I'm going to be mean. I had a rough morning with my baby. You have a baby. Taking it out on you. Now I'm the baby. Now I get to be the baby. As if you get to be the mom, Jackie. I'm always the mommy.

I'm always a winner. You never not the baby. Where's the teat? Oh, you want the teat? You want me to pull out the teat? Because I'll sit here bare-breasted. I will record the rest of this podcast. You know, you wouldn't be the first one to do it

Because I certainly did it when I had the babies with me So it's your turn It's your turn, take them out That is true You normalized it for me, MJ Yeah And it actually helped me with like The coming dreadnospheres

I'm sorry, I had a tough morning So it's different the way I describe what it's like It's hard to understand how much You and or your partner will take their boobs out If you are nursing a baby and then you're just like, oh, I gotta take my boobs out in front of everyone.

I know I gotta take them out in front of my good friend, Holden, but certainly not my best friend who I would show my boobs to unprompted. First time I met the baby. And I remember, I was like, oh, is that the baby? Oh my God.

Oh my God. Yes. It's an open breast. Yeah, you just got to get used to it. Police officer, come quickly. There's a naked breast on the streets of Brooklyn. I like you say,

while we are normalizing breastfeeding, can we just normalize? I just want my tinnies out. Yeah. I think that I want the freedom of cold air against my nipples and it's not fair. It let them out. I thought that after, before I had top surgery, I thought that after I had top surgery, I would literally just go topless everywhere because that was what I wanted and it's still what I want. But for some reason it still doesn't quite feel normal. So I think that we can we can normalize it. Let's just take them all on. Well, you know, I'm going to go ahead and throw it out there, MJ. Full grown man over here. Also not a big fan of just strutting around

with my shirt off. Why? Why? It's just not my vibe, bro. That's just not my vibe. You don't have that, is it because it's socially not unacceptable? Like, if everyone else was walking around with their shirt off, you're a never nude, though, we've established this. I'm on a beach, you know what I mean?

If it's the scenario, I guess I will. I've seen you without your shirt on a couple times. Like, you say never nude, but I've seen you without your shirt on. You know what, Holden? Sure. You don't have a bad front facing belly. Well, these days, I don't know. I don't even bring you up the back facing belly. I am like the universe, son.

I am expanding at a constant rate. I think I have to cut beer out. I am just expanding. I just saw myself in there. I just took a shower and I was like, God damn, you fucking are big, bra. Should we start calling you Big Bang? We'll start calling you a little bit of Big Bang.

Just like that sitcom that I watch with my video. I prefer Young Sheldon. Oh, if you could call me Young Sheldon, that would be actually more my vibe. No, I'm sorry. I don't ever look at you and go, ah, in upset, usually.

Not at all. No, I'm not, I'm not, like, upset with it, but I'm just, I can feel it. I can feel the slug taking up. Maybe you can feel a new horizon. You know, have you ever thought about that?

I was going to say, I think you're quoting. I'm going to talk about Horizon Forbidden West, the new video game that came out? Is that related to Yay West? Because I don't think so, bro. Let's talk about a gay again. He got mad, bra.

I should have, uh, clip. Do you see the new performance he did? He got mad at the sound people. He threw the mic down. Guess who's on stage with him? Oh, Marilyn Manson.

Yeah. That's interesting. He got mad, though. There's a clip of him in the middle of his Donda 2 performance, fucking getting piss and throwing the microphone into the water. Because he was partially submerged in a pool. No need for it. No, absolutely no need for it.

I often wish that I was, is the type of person who could throw things when angry, because it must be cathartic, right? Like, I actually don't think. No, but the thing is that someone that used to be a person that would throw things when they were angry, I'm talking about 10 years ago, it makes you feel immediately shameful and filled with guilt.

So it doesn't make you feel good. It only makes you feel bad. And so, I think some cyclopact definitely feel that. I need a physical release for our, like, I guess I, like, when my kids throw things, I try to, you know, I stay calm and I try to be like, well, it's okay to be mad, but it's not okay to throw things. But sometimes I'm like, that looks great. Like I would just let's just throw shit, you know? Like that scene and like the godfather or whatever with the, with all of the dishware and everything. Yeah. Like, like, and so if it didn't make you feel shame, Jackie, if there was a world in which you could throw something and not, you don't, obviously don't want to menace anyone. You don't want to upset somebody that you're with. I think that's, that's, you know what. I think that's. I think that's. I think that's. I the main thing you want to avoid. But if you were alone and you can just throw something and it would make you feel, like, wouldn't it make you feel better? You gotta go to one of those, the break-em-ups rooms.

Yeah, break-stuff rooms. Hey, smash up. Yeah, the lim-I-called. I call them lim-biscuit rooms. Yeah, and that's helpful. Also, you know, I have found the best expenditure of rage is the scream into the pillow. It is completely harmless. It lets all that energy out.

you don't feel embarrassed after you might but probably not because like no one really heard it it was a private moment and you at least had the self-control to do something non-violent that also would not affect anyone else. I will say I'm not above screaming into the sky as if I'm yelling at the fates themselves. Like when I got a parking ticket a couple days ago and I just went like, like out in front of my car like a gladiator would. That is fun because also people think you're crazy and then I'm going here. That's what I always want to do is scream into the sky,

but I feel too inhibited to throw things. I'm too inhibited to scream, and so I just keep it inside. That's the thing, and that's the thing about getting back in the car culture, you know what I'm saying? Because the car is your tube of emotion outlet. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like a lube of it.

So it gets you all, you got to cover yourself in your own rage sludge. And then, man, you're just ready to go. You've got to scrape it off. Why'd you bring up Cady? Because you said, I think you said West. Did you say the word West? Oh, yeah, yeah, I did say Horizon Forbidden West, the video game.

The video game that you're very excited about playing. And we're about to lose Holden as a human being for at least a week while you play your video. Eldon Ring, yes, not Horizon Forbidden West. I'm saving that after Eldon Ring. Wow, Jackie. How dare you? I'm not like the other girls. I'm being a little bit of a Bella right now,

but I am going to bring up a little bit of content. Throw it out here, guys. It was a weird, weird, light gossip week. But very important information was found out today while I was recording Twilight earlier. Please check out the page 7 Patreon. Uncle Oll Grimacy is what I want to talk about. What you call me now?

Uncle O'Grimacy. Oh, Uncle O'Ole Grimacy is here And he is drunk. And I am talking about, I went down to Worm Time of McDonald's characters. Don't ask why. I mean, no one who is a longtime listener of the show should be surprised. We've definitely gone deep on McDonald's characters before on this very show. But it's been yours.

So people, never deep enough. There's always more to discover. And, you know, we've got to bring people up to speed. And, but I just, I just want to establish that this is not untread territory. for this show, specifically the deep cuts of McDonald's land's character. I'm more of a Burger King Kids Club guy, but I like the wheelchair kid.

I like the kid with the weird wheelie goggle glasses. Wasn't his name like VJ or something? But I am talking about McDonald's, yes, hamburger, grimace, the fry things. Fry guys. With uncle fry things. Don't say you're acting like you don't know

it's fry guys. Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to be come off a Jackie freestyle. I'm so chill. Yeah, you're so chill. You know that.

So chill. I don't even know all their names. Of the McDonald's characters. I read you like a book, Jackie. I couldn't tell you what years they were created. I think I've been around old Jackers long enough to know. And that's bullshit flying at my face. And yet, I still didn't know about Uncle O.

Grimacy, which is the defunct. now McDonnelland character, but he's the reason why we have Shamrock shakes, which I've never actually had a shamrock shake. I just know that the internet goes hula blue every St. Patrick's Day when the Shamrock shakes come out. I'm sure that they're fine. I'm sure they're delicious. But they are brought to us by a grim, the uncle of grimace, I'm assuming. He's got a little chained, tiny vest on like he's in gossip girl. Yeah, that's an interesting chain for his vest.

Yeah. That's a fashion style. He's got a little. And I love it. It's like at the bottom as opposed to the top of the vest, by the way. It's just very disturbing. There's something. It just screams to me, hey, I tend to dabble in BDSM from time to time.

Sure, and I get it. I mean, me too. It is covered in my chain. It reminds me of like, do you, I don't know, Jackie, if you had this, there was like a classic, what I think was like a classic, very common Ken doll in the early 90s that his outfit was like just so, so gay. It was like very, very short hot green, like trunks. I always made my Ken's wear tiny shorts.

I think that it's just better. I want to see the full throb of a thigh. And then his shirt was like a gold mesh, like a wide weave mesh crop top. It was so, I really need to find a picture because I remember everyone, all the adults in my life making fun of this kendall and I totally didn't understand why

and I was like everyone get off my dick about this kendall he's fun, he looks great but in retrospect it was very much like a kind of leather daddy outfit It was the 80s, they were all leather daddy outfits. I think that that's what Uncle O. Grimacy, which by the way, it's not how last name works work, but that's, he's just got a chain

across his chest for no reason. It is hard not to see it as a bit of a leather daddy thing. There's just something about him with his agape mouth that just makes me horrified. And no wonder he's defunct now. And I do apologize, MJ, if you feel that I am offending your culture by bringing up Uncle of Remusie. I just think that we should give him some respect for St. Patrick's Day. My first response when Jackie texted this was that this is cultural appropriation.

as it's rampant on St. Patrick's Day. Everyone's Irish. Oh, well, is that your culture? And so Uncle O. Grimacy is canceled. And so is Grimmis for facilitating this. There you go. Grimus probably should have been canceled for other reasons. You can't cancel a person because of their family.

That's true. I'm throwing it in there. They're coming for Super Mario next. Get ready for it. Well, you wait. Get ready for it. Whenever Chris Pratt starts voicing him, I'm sure that they're going to start going.

They're not going to go after my people. I feel like Italians are going to be made fun of it. I mean, did you watch House of Gucci? That's in, it's an Oscar. Well, oh, my God. I try it. I see. I'm not.

I leave me. I diggy. Did he go. I digi. And the other night, it was like Saturday night. We were like, let's watch a movie. Like, we never watch a movie. And he was like, what do you want to watch?

And I was like, House of Gucci. And it's. so long. And my problem is that I can stay awake for about 30 minutes before falling asleep. And he was like, we are not going to, even if we watch it today and tomorrow, we are not going to have time to watch it before,

like, we need like four days to watch it in the increments that you need before falling asleep. So I have now seen like the first hour of House of Gucci and not the rest. Rana actually paid for the rental and could not finish it. No. I know. Very sad.

I know, I'm not going to buy it. What were your thoughts of the first hour? I mean, I was, I felt like a little bit prepared because I had heard you guys talk about it, but like, Kadyin was like, what is happening? And I was like, that's Jared Lotto. And he was like, that's not Jared Lotto. You're kidding. Like, that's not, he just didn't know.

He didn't know, he didn't know, you know. How could you know? I can't wait to see it. It is. I still haven't caught it yet. But I'm ready to go to the go to the goch for sure. It's worth it. I mean, it's, I'm, I'm.

I'm now looking at this McDonald's fandom outline of all of the family tree of grimace and everything. But it is, it's an epic tale, just like the McDonald's characters of family. It is a, it is a slow-paced, very long and very epic tale. And it does seem to unravel as the movie goes on, just so you know. Yeah, I told my brother that I was watching and he was like, oh, you haven't even gotten to like the craziest shit yet by far. Like, and I didn't even get close. It should have been a series. Honestly, the first hour, like, at least makes some kind of coherent sense. And then it just fast forward. And you're like, wait, what? Wait, how much time is that? Wait, why is she wearing that? Wait, I thought

this is a fashion movie. Um, it's, it's just, and then, and then there's Jared Letto, who's still being weird Jared Leto. And you'd think all of this, it's not cat's level, though. It's just enough to be very long. Yeah, that's it, right. It was not quite fun enough for how bad it was. Pretty much. But I'm excited to hear your continued watching of it, and you're just going to keep renting it.

How am I going to pay $25 bucks every weekend to work my way through it? Where else do you go, an MJ? It's true. I do want to be culturally relevant. Yeah, and one thing we're definitely going to be spending our money on at some point in the future is the Britney Spears. tell all book that she has sold. I am very, you know, for $15 million,

she sold, like she is going to be writing a book about what she has been going through, and I gotta say, go for her. Yeah, I'm glad she's getting that payday for my own sake. Do you not feel a sense of fatigue when it comes to the story? And I think partially it's because we did a pop history on it.

So it was our, literally our kind of our job to learn everything about it. But then like 18 documentaries came out about it, a million articles were written about it, all the news updates, all the tweets, everything. I'm like, what else can she even add to her own story? But it's from her perspective. I know, so it's going to be all in baby talk?

Is that what she said? I hope it's really difficult to not. It's going to be a fucking picture book, scratch and sniff. Maybe it'll include more of her artwork, and I'm very excited to see it. No, and I love her. And all jokes aside, I'm, I, I love her.

journey for her. But yeah, I just wonder if there's really even going to be that many revelations to a certain degree at this point. Because I just feel like I know more about her life than she does, which is probably also the issue that really makes this whole thing even more fucked up is I think a lot of people feel that way. Yeah. And actually, we got a very, which I really appreciate in the page seven podcast at gmail.com inbox. Someone sent a really great and I appreciate it so much of talking about how Britney Spears was in the conservatorship for such a long time. And why isn't Kanye? Connie is obviously a much bigger danger.

He's a much bigger, like, not only to himself, but to other people, that he should be under a conservatorship. And I'm, I, as I just read this right before we started recording, and I was like, I thought he was in a conservatorship. And now I'm just trying to loosely look this up. And I can't find the information that, like, he must not have one anymore. I don't think that that is public, like it doesn't have to be public knowledge, obviously, but.

Sadly also, I mean, his mom died. Is it possible that she was in charge of it, you think? And maybe Kim would be that person, but Kim is divorcing him. So she's also not, I think maybe she, okay, yes, the blind items, I recall reading blind items, that she at one point tried to get him in a conservatorship.

Yeah. And those attempts were foiled. Because I think that since he's older, therefore has more power and more autonomy than Brittany really did at that point in her life and her career, you know what I mean? And still has an inability to like do a lot of shit herself, you know, that seems like obvious shit.

Like what was the example, like getting an Uber or something like that was like an example? We're like paying a phone bill, you know what I mean? Yeah, she couldn't even touch her own phone. Like she wasn't even like, I mean, that's quite an extent of a conservatorship, especially over someone that, has that like is able to respond that's not comatose please check out our brittany spiers four part episodes how many episodes do we do he's like you know clearly dealing with a lot of issues right now but i don't

think he has the like total loss of control over his faculties like she did during that time both because of her own stuff that was going on but also because of her environment around you right i mean this is just my guess like he would be able to be like if someone were were to even try to put him in a conservatorship, he would, he, I think, has the tools and the wherewithal to fight that. Unless he had a total psychotic meltdown. Which he did in 2016, but that was also in 2016. That was in 2016. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I just think that he, at least at his point.

It's like theatrical hold put on him in 2016. Okay, right. And he could get to a point again. But again, at this point, if Kim is out of the picture, who the fuck would even put him? And that's the scariest thing about his whole situation, right? is that he, and that's why he's throwing the mic in the water. And I know that they're going to end up paying for it, but still, it's just like, man, that's just somebody's like, it just makes somebody's like, the sound people, like,

you're just fucking over a sound person. That's all I can think of when you do something like that. Right, right. Don't do that, man. Maybe Marilyn Manson will put him in a conservorship or da baby or whatever is that guy's shithead's name is, but I doubt it. I don't think so. It is a sad way to, like, it's the way, like, it's the way, like, it's, it's,

If the way that I just listened to a podcast episode about Terry Shivo and, you know, like the battle of like... Wow. Terry Shire. I mean, I'm a Florida girl, so you know. Oh, you know. Every second of every day. Was Terry Shivo on that news channel? She's a Florida girl.

She's a Florida girl. Uh-oh, you better watch out. I'm going to start kissing my brother on the mouth. Uh-oh. You better not cry. Like the island boys. I'm not going to kiss Henry on the mouth. But, you know, central to that question was like, you know, the parents were like, we're the parents.

And but she was an adult and she was married. And so it was like, well, you know, and like, I think she didn't have a living will. And so it's like the power to make these decisions goes to whoever is. Yeah. The power of attorney. Right. But it is kind of sad, a sad element and the many sad elements of what's going on with Kanye and, you know, Kim, that there's not like an immediate family member to. to be that person for Kanye. Also, MJ, you weren't around for the conversation of me talking at Holden on Talking TV.

Because I watched the first episode of the Genius documentary, the Kanye documentary. Oh. I think you should watch it. Yeah. Yeah. I will. I will just. I really want to watch it.

I know that we, this is not talking TV. And I know that we have other things to talk about. But I just will say I will watch it. We really don't. We are going to talk about this sister wife's cooking show soon. So hold on your butt. I was going to say I'll watch I'll I was going to bring up a different reality show because I can't watch anything until I'm finished with Love is Blind 2 which has given me

given meaning to my life I'm like I'm literally walking around for the last week being like why am I in such a great mood and I think it's because I had less schoolwork to do this week because New York City public schools are closed but also I think it's because of Love is Blind 2 I am just There's a spring in my step. I love this show so much. And so I can't watch Genius right now, Jackie. I'm busy watching Love is Blind too. Love is your favorite of these reality shows.

I think, I mean, there was kind of split in time, right, when the pandemic started. And there was like pre-pandemic reality shows and the post-pandemic reality shows. And so the two have to be too hot to handle versus Love is Blind. I feel like those are the defining. It should be your thesis for your graduates degree. a great thesis, MJ. I cannot be the only one, the ascendance of reality.

I liked reality shows before, but like the way that reality shows in the pandemic and in early quarantine especially just became your entire reason for living. Remember when we watched the circle? Yes. The circle is also very good. But of those three, sorry,

but I would rank it three in terms of looking forward to what. I think it goes, love is blind, too hot to handle, and then the circle. I'm over. I think I'm not going to watch the new too I'm out to handle because I'm over this morality bullshit. I love it. I love it. I want.

And what I think I want is actually maybe something like a pornography channel would air. It's like late night HBO, you know what I mean? Like the cat house. Yeah, real sex. Remember the cat house too where they did the bunny ranch? I don't know why they called the cat house. It was about the bunny ranch in Las Vegas. I would watch that as well, which is a lot of fun.

Oh, yeah, do you remember that? Does that really get you got? But love is blind is full of morality too. Love is based on... Love is... Admittedly, I'm back, everybody, don't you see? Wow. I'm slipping out of my seat. Anyway.

Too hot to handle is all about like this weirdly puritan idea that like you can only like have a connection if you don't touch somebody. But that's basically the idea with Love is Blind. The idea that love is that love and or attraction can be like siphoned off into like, oh, if you emotionally love them, then you should, then that's all that matters. That's not how attraction works. It's so funny as the show time and time again proves that love is indeed not blind. Not blind. On Talking TV, check out Talking TV by the way,

Patreon.com forward slash page seven podcast. We talked more about this on there. But I will just say it over and over improves it because either what, this is one of two things happens. They either meet up and they both go, yes, we hit the jackpot. We got to know each other. And also I now want to definitely fuck you

because I'm also attracted to you in the physical form. Or it's this long, our Jewish struggle where they meet up and go, fuck. Yeah. I fucked up. Yeah. She took the other one. You know what I mean?

Because I don't want to fuck this one. Because love is not blind. Love is not blind at all. No one goes like, I would never have fucked this person in normal life, but because we had such a connection in the pods, I am now going to fucking slam this person down so hard. It never works like that. It's never like that.

No. And also, they're all conventionally attractive, right? They don't have anybody with like, you know, they just don't have any. who really looks that, like, different from conventional beauty standards, but whatever, fine, it's reality television, but, right, they then spend the entirety of the show being like, well, we have an emotional connection, so, like, that's, like, slogging through, like, I guess that's what love is. It feels like a lot of work, and it just doesn't feel right. And, and I guess this is what, like, what was the, the, Valerie and Salvador was like, it's just,

Love isn't like fireworks and like butterflies. Love is like we've met each other's families. It's just work. It's like just because you can meet anybody's family. Just because you've made it love. Oh my God, you guys just don't like each other. Or he likes you to like him. Or there's just not you don't.

Yeah, it doesn't make your wiener heart. Yeah, it doesn't make your vagina soaking wet like Jackie's lilies, by the way. It's disgusting. She has to be able to let go with a cat house since I brought it up. She's just getting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's how you get it, Jackie. People have sex. Good God. Well, you know who's not having sex and that is anyone on the show, Sister Wives? Tell me. They're trying to make more children. No. Holden, are you not excited about cooking with just Christine?

Because it's the worst name of a good show. I'm so weirdly upset about this. Break this down for the non-sister Wive indoctrinated. Tell me why. I agree with you that this is really stupid. I will preface. I'm just so upset because you know what? Go for her.

I'm talking about the third wife of Cody Brown. And yes, I try not to talk about this show very often, but every once in a while. Oh, do I. Because Christine is leaving the family. This wife, his third wife, is getting a spiritual divorce from her spiritual marriage to Cody Brown. And so I'm assuming TLC is like, well, we're not going to. gonna just pay her if she's not gonna really do the show. So she has her own show now called Cooking with Just Christine,

just so everybody knows it's not to survive, it's Just Christine. And if anyone just said, it makes me think of like, Will and Grace when they did the Just Jack, and I love Just Jack. But Just Christine in this makes like, and now we're going to go over to the wife nobody wanted. Does Just Christine have an interesting personality? just Christine? I love Christine. Christine, I think is, I mean, well, close second to Janelle. I think Janelle's my favorite

wife. And that is making a statement, y'all. But Christine is up there, and I really do enjoy Christine, and I don't want to lose her, and I like the interaction she has with her children. I follow all of them on Instagram, but I don't know if I give a fuck

about watching her do a cooking show, because the one thing I do know is it's very difficult to do a good cooking show. MJ, I know. you know this. We watch 100 million hours of food network. Yeah, you know, Tiffany Amber Thiessen, famously in a great show called Today by the Bell. Turns out that was not enough to make her cooking show interesting.

And if anybody would want to watch it, I would and I did not. So what makes a good cooking show or at least a good host of a cooking show? What do you need? What's the special spice? What's the special ingredient? Oh, that's such a good question. You've got to pretend. that you know what it's like to be a regular person

who shops at the grocery store. Yes. Okay. Which I know she's going to bring into it. I think that she's going to be like, how do you cook for a bunch of kids when you're really busy? And that's actually, that might be nice.

You have to pretend that, but you slowly loads a gun. Yeah, yeah, go on. But you can't pretend it too hard. Like Tiffany Ambritheson, and I'm sorry to pick on you, Tiffany Ambritheson,

but like literally in her show once she was like, here's my recipe for grilled cheese. And it's just like, bitch, everybody knows how to make grilled cheese. Like, and it wasn't even like, Oh, this is like my three cheese grilled cheese with something. It was just like a regular ass grilled cheese. And I was like, okay, that's too normal.

You know, but then if you have like a Jeffrey Zakarian problem, you're like, oh, just go down to the Zabars and get like a gorgeous, fresh, you know, flounder or whatever. And it's like, no, we can't do that either. So you have to like walk a tough line between being like, I've got something to offer you that's not just like a box of hamburger helper, but I also am not pretentious. Right. And most important, you just have to be charismatic. Like, you know, Tiffany Emprythesian was just not a, it's one thing to be an actor.

But this is why just Christine might actually be good, because it's one thing to be an actor. And a lot of actors get cooking shows like Valerie Bertnelly. People just like, I'm an actor, give me a cooking show. And you have to have the charisma of somebody who has to like speak unscripted a lot and explain things as you go and make it accessible. I kind of enjoyed the Paris cooking show, but it was kind of an anti-cooking. It was like they were wearing it. And it, oh, and it did. It got canceled.

Oh, I thought they were doing a season two. I thought that was okay. And even that, yeah, it's like, and then the Selena Gomez one came and went as well, right? Because none of these people. Yeah, it's difficult. Cook for themselves, you know? It reminds me of when celebrities try to do the Twitch thing.

It's like, you know, it's not, it's not a one-to-one. Like, streaming is different. It's not just, you can't just, like, start a stream and and just immediately be great at it because you're popular. There are certain skills for everything. In the same way that people think that it's like, oh, talking for an hour on a podcast, anybody can do that. It actually does take at least a small amount of skill. Right.

Yeah. Me think it hard, hard hard. Whoa. Too much. Too much. Too much. Me think hard hard, hard talk make. Are you hard?

I'm surfing up my scene. You're a hard. All right, please. Can we stop assaulting MJ mentally with our sexual? Podcasting takes skills. on this show because you've got to be prepared to talk about how lived up you are at any minute. Really, it takes you by surprise. You think you're talking about cooking shows.

And you know, one thing I will say about TLC, and I think that I'm starting to be correct, because now I am trying to look through their list of programming. I think that this might be their first cooking show. Yeah, they don't do the cooking. They're more in the, oh my God, what's the commercial that I saw for a TLC show the other day? woman's vagina stretch around the dome of a child? No, it's about a woman who... Yeah, talk about just a kid, MJ, exactly.

I'd be prepared for so many sentences in doing this job. I'm completely, that was like a bullet to my stomach. I would show me in the stomach with that sentence. What in the world, Jack? I was thinking of a baby story. You go on. I'm sorry to not yes Andy on that one.

But I was talking about the show. on TLC that is about an adult woman who had some rare form of cancer and therefore stopped growing slash aging when she was age. Oh, the new one? I haven't started watching it yet. Yes. And so she's an adult who looks like a child a la Jack, but the opposite of Jack, I guess. And it is so clear from the advertisements that it's just an extremely disturbing trip into like every, I don't. don't even know how to talk about it. It's so upsetting. It's like, why does this

woman need a reality show unless you are trying to titillate people with the idea that she is going on dates with adult men, which she is. That's the premise. Oh, I look like a child, but I'm going on dates with adults. Also, by the way, the name of the show is, I am Shauna Ray. It's inappropriate for a show. It's not inappropriate for her. Live your life. You have an interesting story, write a book, whatever. But the show is so clearly like, what if an adult wanted to date a child? It's so, oh my God, MJ, you're completely right because also the thing is, too, is the difference of how it could. It's like, yeah, sure, or make her, like, I hope, get that money, girl.

Get that money. Get that money. So let's do a dokey series of your life. But even in the confessions, she, they sit her in huge chairs. Yes. It's not right. You don't need to do that. No, it's so disrespectful.

You would not do that with an adult who had dwarfism, right? It's like they treat her. They pretend she's a, and all of the commercials are about her dating life. And it's like, yeah, it must be very difficult to date if you are the one person out of earth who has been suspended at you. Yes. But why?

There's clearly TLC's only doing this to appeal to some fucking latent pedophilia in society. That's why I wish it wasn't just about that. Like, I wish it was more about like how, like psychologically. How does she function through the rest of her life? Like, how is going on? job interviews for her. Sure. How is it?

It was like that. Very interesting. Or how would she make a grilled cheese? How would she make a grilled cheese? Oh yeah. I did cheese on it. I'm not like the other girls. This is absolutely no shade to Sean Array.

You are Sean Array and you have a very interesting story and I kind of want to learn more. But the framing of these commercials are, it's just so TLC. It's just like, wow. Do you want to watch an adult man go on a date with someone who looks like a child? If you're going to do a cooking show, you have 1,000 pounds sisters. members, you've got my big fat fabulous white. I am sure it's on its way, holders. There's no way

that it's not. TLC, love you. Love you girl. But you are shameless. And it is sometimes. And borderline, I mean, there's a lot of shows on TLC. I just can't watch because of how they treat the people and how the editing portrays people where I'm like, this isn't fucking fair. I don't like it. It makes me feel

no, the fat phobia. It's like all their shows about fat people are so dehumanizing. They're not like, oh yeah, let's like do shows about how like some people are fat and what it's like what that is like for them and like what the again the the institutional obstacles that that you face by being fat or like the discrimination you experience not it's not none of that it's just like uh fat person yep and then this generation is like uh adult child yeah like it's just so funny well she's a good job but she's an adult at the same time what's what's dating like for that you know it's just like it's like you're

creepiest friend just tells you their creepiest thoughts. I love that your, your version of them is the abominable snowman from the Looney Tunes. Love him and squeeze him. I treat him and call him George. But that is a good amount of the people, I think, unfortunately,

and how they want to, how TLC chooses to portray them. And, um, but that's the problem. Man, it keeps you coming back though, because then it's just a new one. You're like,

I mean, I'm going to check it out. probably can drink it out. Right. Yeah, I mean, they know how to make a commercial for a new show. They really do. They, they dry you in. They're just so good at it.

And, like, where are the, like, these editors, like, they're the primal of editors. They can make you think whatever that you want, they want you to think. And, you know what? I say, good job. I don't think I could do it. I don't think that, like, I could. And it's not even like, oh, you can't sleep at night because, like, how do you sleep at night?

Because it's their fucking job. And they're trying to make television that. people are going to be so curious about that they put on. So really, they're doing a great job. Yeah, yeah, we can't play the individuals. TLC's great. We just blame the system. Don't sit it back.

Keep it the way it is. No notes. At least we're over here just lying like in our bats. And yeah, I'm talking about Robert Pattinson. And yeah, we're talking about how a couple weeks ago he openly said, I lied during interviews. And now he's on the tour circuit because the Bitsman is about to come out. and I don't trust the damn thing he's got to say. Yeah, so I love a story like this

because it makes me think about how, like, actors get jobs in the first place and, like, how it works on a set with, like, a high-profile actor because of the... Well, this... Okay, is this... I thought you were talking about the high-pitched whisper voice.

I was about to get into it, Because that's the thing. So he said weeks ago that he lies during interviews. And then a couple days ago, he was on Jimmy Kimmel. And he said that he tried for the first couple of weeks to do Batman with the opposite voice of what Batman usually was. And he said, I'm going to do the opposite. I'm going really whispering. And he talks just like this.

He was going full tune town. He was going full. Yeah, he's going very Christopher. Yeah, he's going very Christopher Lloyd. and he said he did it for the first couple of weeks and that the shoots of it, like the dailies were so atrocious that he didn't continue. The main thing is, though, on that high budget of a feature,

are you really, unless the two weeks was not during shooting and during rehearsals, I would assume? Yeah, you just burn and film, just, just, just wasting everyone's time. Two weeks. Making a crazy choice. But then also it's like, how did he get hired if that was the, initial choice and they hated it. You know what I mean? It's so...

But again, if he's lying, then he's just lying and that would make... That makes it make more sense, but it just makes me be like, how does this even... How do you take that big of a risk on an actor making that bad of a choice? I've read about this before where they were like, yeah, they tried it like this at first and then it was like, actually

don't do that. I mean, I've heard that before and it's just like, do they just, they're just winging it. Everyone's just winging it. All this money. Millions of nonstop flowing through this thing, and he's going in going, It's me. It's the Batman.

Oh, I'm going to have sex with Zoe Gravitz on top of the Batmobile. Zoe made me on top of the Batmobile. She's like, okay. I give you tiny little and big hamp. Yeah, I watch it. Oh, I watch it. Every one of the teaser trailers. I already have my tickets.

I need to stop watching the teaser trailers. I got my tickets already, because I'm. a Stubbs member. And it's the best $23 a month they spend. I don't work for them. I fucking wish I did. The movie theaters, though, and you gotta remember, Nicole Kidman,

that's where the magic is, and movie theaters are going down. Somehow, Heartbreak feels good in that. In a place like this, man. In a fucking place like this, man. And Heartbreak also feels good with, I mean, I love this article that I sent you guys about Judd Apatow

trolling his daughter, Maude Apatow. Maude Apatow is Lexi from the show Euphoria that Holden and I are obsessed with. And in the show, she is like, I'm gonna, I don't want to give anything away, but, uh, like, talking to the guy that I also have a crush on. So it's like, Maude Apatow and I are like, we're like besties. And Judd Apatow, who is, you know, of fame director, I always immediately think of freaks and geeks. I know that he's done a lot of other things than that. but as a dad has been publicly comment trolling on their faux fling in the show. And maybe this is too deep cut of an article.

I just thought it was really fucking cute. Yeah, I love that he's, first of all, do we even talk about his post about Kanye at the Super Bowl and talking about how he was like, apparently he overheard him, Kanye talking to his fruits about like, he's like, man, I want to take this mask off. It's like really hot because he showed up

in this like weird mask Like full face mask You had like full Like couldn't see it like oh I hope it's true Because apparently John Avedale said This is what he overheard It was like man

I'm really hot in this thing I really wish I could take it up He's like no man You gotta commit to the mask man Where the mask got to commit dude And then he like eventually took it off It is real though because he took an actual picture From where he was sitting

Of Kanye throws behind Yeah yeah It's so funny Just like that kind of Like, I'm this hauteur, brilliant mind. And then, like, there's always the reality of shit where it's like, fuck, no, I'm at this Super Bowl. I got this, like, mask.

But going to this thing, it's very, very cute. I hope the blinds aren't true. The dude may be a badman, potentially. Fess? Maybe. Angus Cloud? Maybe, bro. No, I love him.

I know, bro, but he might have been a badman, man. No, man. But it sounds like it was something. Maybe he was. bad man back in the day man. Well, he wasn't an actor. I mean, remember when we did the Euphoria episode? Which also, I forgot that we started pop history with the nanny and then we did an episode

on Euphoria. Really? A million years ago. Yeah. How long has Euphoria been, is this his third season? That was kind of the idea, though. It was like, why don't we do something that's new? Why don't we do something it's fresh out, you know, and cover it?

I mean, why not? You can, you know, also, one thing I really like about Angus Cloud, I really hope that he's not a badman, but that he refuses to say what his birthday is anywhere because he wants no one to talk about his astrological sign. And I think that's actually scary. This is the second person from Euphoria whose age we don't know. We talked about that other person last week.

Don't know their ages, you know? I think it's like the nebulosity. Is that a word? Yeah. Yeah, it's super a word, Jamie. Yeah. Good God. But, yeah, it's really funny.

so Judd is always commenting on mods. Just perfect, perfect dad, humor too. He's not even being like a professional comedian. I feel like as much as a dad, a corny dad. Like he's not, I don't even think he was doing it to try to get press on it. I think he's just doing it because he thinks it's funny. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like Jud Epitow has just like to, he was like, for a while there, he was just like he made fucking every movie. And then I feel like there was a while there where people were like, we should like interrogate some of the premises, behind some of his movies and like there's some like kind of normalized sexism there like I remember there was a lot of Judd Apatow discourse for a while around like knocked up and whatever and I don't

really remember because I never felt really strongly about him one way or the other but I remember he was like the director the comedy director and now I feel like he's just transitioned into like a kind of like post millennial phase where like whatever young people are watching now is just like not really informed by Judd Apatow's work. So he's just like a kind of like elder, like, yeah, I made a lot of movies that were really popular and shaped the 2000s. And now I'm... It also seems he's a big producer now.

So I think that he's also like taking a step back of like... Not in the spotlight as much. Of making a lot of other cool things and like shifting, which also go for him. I think it's like, isn't that what you would want someone like that to do of like, no. Now he's like, he's doing documentaries. He did King of Staten Island, which was definitely very different from the things that he had been doing for a long time. And, you know, I think that...

Oh, I just saw his next project for TLC, my big, fat, dumb cooking show. Oh, my God! You're jumping on the bandwagon. Cooking for you. Yeah, fantastic. I know we're gonna gotta get to the conspiracy theory, but really quick, I do love that you posted the...

Daniel Raglipp looks unrecognizable. It's weird how you can make. He does it. He looks like Daniel Rackliff. Danny Radcliffe. He's wearing a wig. He's wearing a wig. He's wearing a mustache.

I, but again, that is when you know. I just want everyone to know. It's someone like Daniel Radcliffe. That reads celebrity gossip every single day that you know it's a slow news week when you see a headline like that of, he looks unrecognizable. And they never, like unrecognizable. They never ever look unrecognizable. He has a wig on. I can't imagine anybody who looks more recognizable.

He doesn't even look like he's doing a movie. He looks like. It's Halloween, and he's Daniel Reckcliffe going as weird out for Halloween. He has no prosthetics on. He's literally Daniel Radcliffe wearing a wig, and the mustache doesn't even look that weird because he had a beard and a mustache before filming. So all that was is just not a beer. Unrecognizable.

Enjable, MJ. How dare you? If you were a two-year-old and he was your dad, you might not recognize him. Maybe, maybe. Unbelievable. I guess I'll be watching the cat house tonight, am I right? Yeah, maybe. Hit me with the conspiracy theory before I take a long walk down a bridge.

Do you believe it? Is Garfield dead? The president? Just like the queen? No, boy, he is dead. But no, I'm talking about your favorite fucking cartoon character, which is a fallacy, by the way. What? I don't know.

I just don't like him or whatever. I'm too. I know, you're a wormo. I thought that you were. read into my brain space because I almost included an article that was on Cracked a couple days ago that had something to do about it. It's like the headline said Garfield in it and I was like, what are they talking about with Garfield? And it was like, was President Garfield murdered? Who gives up fuck?

But please continue. All right. Here we. Nothing like a Garfield Rickroll where you think you're going to be reading about Garfield. The first metal detector failed to save Garfield from a bullet. That was what the headline was. I was just like, who was shooting at Garfield? So maybe it's the real.

Do you think he's real? All right, let's get into this. This one comes in. Oh, James Garfield, fine. This one comes in from Mary Beth, who says, Hey, you fuckers. So my theory comes from a Garfield wiki. The story relates back to the October 1989 storylines

that centered around the fat orange pussy waking up in an abandoned garage having to come to terms. She spelled it C-U-M. No way that. With being alone. When he finally accepts being alone, John finds him and takes him home.

But did he look up the strip if you want? It is disturbing at best. It is, it might make you mad at worst. It's the Cthulhu of Garfield strips. So what do you put in Garfield's garage? Garfield put in Garfield Halloween strip, I think 1989, if you want to put Garfield Halloween, 1989. So the strip, which is referred to as No More Monday,

by the internet, you also might be able to... Oh, I remember this one. It was a dream. No, it is not. No, we ate too much candy. Damn your eyes, Jackie. It is not. It is a six-strip series

of Garfield waking up, as Marybeth described, in an empty home with the connotation that Odie and John either abandoned him or passed away long ago. The house is even seen completely boarded up with a for-sale sign in the overgrown front yard. Though he does quote, wake up and quote

Big air quotes on wake up Though he does wake up to find John and Otis and his life back to normal The panel just before that reads something really fucking interesting Jackie So prick your ears They all pricked After years of taking life for granted

Garfield is shaken by a horrifying vision of the inevitable process called time He's got it's a wonderful life He has only one weapon Denial Then he think you yells, I don't want to be alone.

That is when John and Otis return, implying he's actually conjuring up these illusions as a way to maintain his sanity in life, or in death, this from Mary Beth. According to the wiki page, the theory makes sense because Garfield would often have dreams about food. Who doesn't, am I right? Maybe corn anybody?

And would beg John for his signature dish lasagna. However, upon hearing the theory Garfield's creator, God, or Jim Davis, if you're nasty, he reportedly laughed at the idea. Was he laughing off guilt, confusion, too much power, erotic fantasies about his co-worker that make him sad? We may never know. But I do know this. I am the lady who wrote in about my mom questioning Holden's comedic abilities.

See, I don't know about that. I'm trying to remember that. But Holden is my slippery comedy lizard for the gods. Jackie has got me soup in, and MJ is my home remodeling fantasy. Oh, wow. Thanks, you fuckers. You keep me slipping and sliding. I love you for it.

Bird Luger forever. Merry bad. Thank you, so. Wow. This comic strip is disturbing. I've been staring at it. I haven't even really been listening to what Holden's saying. I'm pretty upset.

It is really sad. I'm very dark. And I'm like... The last... I just want everyone to know that the last panel says, an imagination is a powerful tool. It can tint memories of the past. Shape perceptions of the present.

Or paint a few. so vivid that it can entice or terrify, all depending upon how we conduct ourselves today. Did Jim Davis do some acid before setting this one out? Have you ever seen Jim Davis? I don't think he was doing any acid, but I wished he would. Maybe he needs a little bit of acid.

This actually reminds me of the dark ride that was at Kennywood. We went to Kennywood. It is one of the best theme parks I've ever been to in Pittsburgh or outside of Pittsburgh. And there was a dark ride that you went through where it was Garfield's nightmare, where he ate too much food and then it got all weird and was very much similar to this, but not quite as scary.

It was more funny. And it was also sponsored by Pepsi. So there was a lot of Pepsi in there. But I think that that would make you think that you want to drink less Pepsi, but we don't need to go into the semantics of advertisement right now. We need to talk about Garfield. And I don't think that he's dead. I think that he just, I think he just ate too much food.

Have you had meat dreams before? I've had meat dreams so many times. She was hosting a cooking show. MJ, what do you think? Should Garfield host a cooking show? Yes, that I believe. That I believe. And I think I believe Marybeth.

I think he did. There you go. Well, you can explain that during the Garfield Christmas special. I don't know whether or not I believe it. I don't know whether or not I believe it, but I hope it's true. Jackie, back to you. Well, I don't believe it, but I still love you, Marybeth. And I appreciate all of your japeries.

But now it's time for the list. Oh, who's on the list? It's me. Jackie, gotta have that list. Iconic sitcom roles, it almost went to a different actor. Now, there were actually some good ones on here that I didn't know. Katie Holmes might have almost played Piper on Orange's the New Black. And they will say that I think I would have watched it.

I got about three seasons into Orange as the New Black and then I, or four seasons, and then I kind of fell off. but I can never get into it. Yeah, me neither. I tried, I couldn't. It was too, sometimes shows are too cute for me. It was a little too cute. And people, a lot of people whose tastes

I otherwise totally share loved it. So I think that it might just be one of those things. I like the fuck. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. And I, and I don't know, it's, I don't necessarily think it's a bad show.

It's a personal taste thing for sure. Yeah, and I think it did interesting things for like bringing some prison discourse into them. amazing for fun female characters. For sure. And like female presenting characters. Yeah. And like bringing in Laverne Cox.

Yeah. It gave people an opportunity that they probably would not have had otherwise, especially when it first came out. So it would have been very weird to watch Katie Holmes do it. But what about Ed O'Neill, instead of Ed O'Neill and modern family, Craig T. Nelson, who is I believe he's kind of the every father, isn't he? Yeah, that would be great. I think it would have been great.

but also Ed O'Neill brings that married with children aspect into modern family that I like that a little bit more than Craig Zee Nelson was just so squeaky clean that I think that it would have been very different. Right. He's got a little more of that edge. Definitely. Speaking of succession, anybody, I don't know if I would refer to it necessarily as a sitcom. But Kieran Culkin, who is, oh my God, phenomenal. Maybe my favorite part of the whole show. Me too.

He almost was cousin Greg. That makes no sense. I'm sorry. It makes no sense. He said, they asked me to read for Greg. I knew I was wrong. Normally I'd be like, okay, I'm not right for the part. I'm going to close it.

I'm going to continue reading on. But I just liked the script. So I read on, which, good thing he did, because he's phenomenal succession. So good. He's so good. And he's per, I mean, it's like, it's just so funny because it's like Roman was written for him.

You know, I don't know what his personality is like, but I just, it just matches him. so he does such a good job. And Cousin Greg is also like it was written for that guy. They're just perfect. All the acting in that show is perfect. And they also, they make it their own. And you can even see how the character grows.

And I would only assume that they would add in their strengths as the seasons went on because the characters are only getting better. Yeah, totally. Rain Wilson almost played Job Bluth on Arsett instead of Will Arnett. And this comes on the heels of him screaming towards. Holden on talking TV about Murderville and how much I love Will Arnett on it and also MJ I think that you would really like it but I

think that Will Arnett brought like again the scuzziness that was needed definitely yeah rain has the false confidence going for him to play that part but he doesn't have the broiness definitely that I feel like Job needs and Will Arnett brings to it like that's the difference and I know it's hard to go back and like change it in our brains But then there's ones like this, speaking of the office, Paul Giamatti was going to play Michael Scott of the American office.

Weirdly, I feel like I could see that. I just feel like he's such a good actor that I would, you know, until I saw him do poorly, I would believe it. Yeah, and especially because the British office was so, like, so much about playing it so seriously. And I guess the American Office kind of did that too. I feel like I could picture Paul Giumani just like really committing to it, you know? Yeah.

Now, I'm going to go ahead and say that I, this part of the list I don't like. Stephen Tobelowski. I love Stephen Tobolowski. Amazing character actor. You either should listen to his podcast or you should look up at him. You know exactly who I'm talking about if you see him. I'm not reacting to you saying this amazing actor, by the way. reacting to what you're about to say.

I hate that on this list, it's Stephen Tobolowski nearly played the tool time guy on home improvement. Fuck you! Do they mean Tim Allen? Tim the tool-man Taylor? Tim the tool man Taylor.

Is that what you're referring to? Yeah. Have some respect. Maybe he's going to play one of the boys and that's what they meant by. Oh, yeah. Mark, yeah, the weird middle one. One of the other people?

Why can we have a... a traditional sitcom where one of the kids is just played by a fully grown adult that is bald. Honestly. I would love that. I would have loved it. Or just like a traditional sitcom where all of the casting was completely wrong, you know? Which I think would bring a really fun aspect to it. It would be great.

Miscast. Oh, I'd love to pitchments. Yeah, that's a good idea. No one take it. We'll do it. No one take it, everybody. Last but not least, turns out, speaking of Ed O'Neill, Ed O'Neill almost played Ted Danson's role in Cheers.

But I think that that actually also would have really worked because of that same edge that I love Ted Danson in Cheers. But if he had been a little bit more crass, of course, very different time, very different show, I think that O'Kaida would have been fun. They said at that point, Sam Malone was a former football player who'd gone on to become a bar owner. So the character was kind of different. But in any case, O'Neill auditioned, but didn't get the line.

And that's last. That's it. There you go. Well, I guess that's it for my eyes then as well. Oh, no. I think I'm going. Wine. Items.

Oh, we can't see them. Man, do I have a few turds for you guys this week? Boy, boy, boy, these plight items suck a big old elephant. An elephant tantis. A dickolini and jaculis. Podcasting takes a lot of skills. I told you I got the skills on display today.

These are whatever. All three of these are whatever and you got whatever though and if you're listening to home, whatever. Okay. All right. If you're listening to office, then it's fine. But if you're listening to home, whatever.

All right. This A-list mostly movie actor pushed it too far when he made it seem that he and the one-named actress are further along in their relationship, quote-unquote relationship. by the way, is assuming they're in a fake relationship. She got ticked and he had to backtrack.

One named actress. He was in a big old movie lately and she's in a show. Tom Holland and Zendaya? Tom Holland and Zendaya? Yeah, Tom Holland and Zendaya, yeah, 100%. But they are in a relationship. They are in a relationship holding. Holland went on live with, well,

scored in the blinds, quote-unquote relationship. Holland went on live with Kelly and Ryan last week to dispel rumors that he bought a house with Zendaya in London, South London. I know it's in day, but whatever. I say Zendaya, but whatever. I know you do. Days never die. I always used to say it too.

I'm changing. I'm growing. So this was reported by the mirror. He also gave a big old shrug as to how the story came to be in the first place. Very in today. They're in a relationship,

Holden. You can't do my mind. And he's really good to her, I guess. He was like, I think maybe he's, maybe he's more excited about it because he's like, we're getting a house together is kind of what this is saying.

It's cute. I love this. I hope he's not like love mommy in a bad way. Yeah, who knows. But I'll tell you who's lovey-dovey for the cameras. Is it Uncle O. Grimacy? Yeah, it's Uncle O'Grimacy and the Fry guys. They're fucking, you know, weird kind of platonic, yeah.

They should have gone with like Grimmis O'Neill or something. You know? You know, like Grimmis. Yeah, it takes a village. Grimmis McBurger. It's just a lot. When you show up. Mick is right there in the name.

Because MJ, when you show. up already drunk to the marketing meeting at the McDonald's ad agency place, you're going to come up with that. You're not going to put two and together. You've been drinking high balls since nine in the morning. The marketing meeting to choose who would be the mascot for the shamrock shake. That is a 3 p.m. You have already had. Why not use the Mick that's literally part of the name of our restaurant and also popularly. Get out. A show secret is paint him green. With Irish last names?

No. Oh, Grimacy. Have you ever seen Madmin? The person who came up with that has already slept, cheated on his wife four times that day, has drank and had eight martinis at lunch. I mean, you know what I mean? We're talking about a different breed, okay? And that's the result. You're right.

All right, here we go. Yeah, how dare you. All right. And if you're listening to home, it's still like whatever or whatever. But here we go. With new music to promote and using the carrot. of a possible pregnancy. This celebrity couple

consisting of an actress and a singer have Paps waiting to pay them money if they want to take a walk and be photographed, so they do it once a day now. Is it the Jonas and the Game of Thrones?

Uh-oh, if you don't guess the name that we'll sit in silence for the next five minutes. You have to guess the name of the actress. Oh, Sonson's Stark. It's Sonsa Stark. No, that's not a real name. Tipi-Type.

I am D-B. I'm looking at it up. Keep looking it up. Yeah, you better look it up. Tip me. And I'm reading it. I'm looking at it right in front of me. By the way, you said the Jonas man or whatever.

The Jonas one. What's his name? Nick, Joe. Sloppy. I eat sloppy. Joe. Joe Jonas. Yeah.

And Sophie? And when I sit on a couch, but I also call it a. There you go. A sofa. Sophie couch. Sofe. Turner recently seemed to confirm pregnancy. rumors the other day as she was photographed cradling her stomach while out with husband Joe Jonas

for breakfast in Los Angeles. But I'll tell you what, if she was doing that, I would never ask her if she was pregnant. That was another story callback that you posted. I can't believe, there's two things I don't understand. Touching black people's hair and that being a weird thing that white people do apparently. And asking random people you don't even know, or even if you do know them if they are pregnant. Never. That is so insane. I literally do. Do this. that wait until... We're talking about Chrissy Teagan, by the way, because Chrissy Teagan is openly like,

I'm now saying, like, now that she's saying, I'm going through IVF right now, stop asking me if I'm pregnant. It really, it actually really hurts me when you ask me. Please stop asking. But again, can you fucking imagine? No. Not only someone you, even someone you don't know,

but especially, or someone you do know. You don't ask. No. I would have never believed you, but I have heard examples of it a few times at this point. Yeah. from unnamed

I mean I'm a fat woman so believe me I've definitely been asked and I'm like insane don't ask me I'm not I'll let you know Yeah yeah

You'll even if you are Very obviously I would never say No I don't ask Until the baby comes And then I'm like congratulations Yeah it's the baby's like She's fucking pregnant

Through the belly Out of the belly yes All right here we go The last one This A list mostly movie actor From an acting family Says he has never listened to an album

that has songs about him on it. The A-Lis singer says that he has and told her he has. Who is lying? A-Lis-Singer what? Singer wrote songs about an actor. Everybody knows about it. They always hit the actor up about it.

Oh, yeah, Jake Jillenhall finally said that he is not actually the one with the scarf, right? Jillen-Hall recently broke his silence when it comes to the T. Swift song all too well, which is allegedly about him, of course, about him. He's so vain. Whoa. He said it has nothing to do

me it's about her relationship with her fans it is her expression artists happen in personal experiences for inspiration and I don't begrudge anyone that but also he said at some point I think it's important when supporters get unruly that we all we feel a responsibility to have them be civil and not allow for cyberbullying in one's name while that's interesting well maybe you should have shown up to her 21st birthday oh Jake Jake maybe you should have shown up so he wasn't waiting and then she made a music video about it now I know about it okay we all You're too old. Yeah.

So whatever. So I will DM you on Twitter weirdly twice a day and I will continue to do that. Very, very scary. Can you see again, Holden? Yeah, I can super see again. Oh, thank you.

I'm so glad I can see again. So happy that he's back, but also happy for me to be back. Thank you guys both for being so happy. Yeah. And my, thank you guys so much for all of your love and all of your well wishes. I feel so much better, obviously.

I feel like a completely different person. I just want to say thank you guys so much. And thank you for joining us this week on page 7. My name is Jackie Spruouski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm and come check out Twitch.tv. TV forward slash, oh, no, it's Jackie on Tuesdays and Thursdays and Sundays. And it is a lot of fun.

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My name's MJ and I'm MJKLKat on Instagram. Uh-oh, it's your girl, Jay Bones with the weekly shoutouts. I'm so sad to have to ask, Holden to do them. last week, not that I did a poor job, but I just missed you guys. And I want thank you guys so much for sending in your emails. Again, our email is page 7 podcast at gmail.com. Send me anything. I just love to, I love to connect.

Thank you guys so much for sharing such positive love. And first, we are starting out with some birthday smiles and we're swimming on down. Pisces style. Happiest of birthdays to all the beautiful Pisces in our community, but especially Jessie's partner, Madeline. Jesse says, my lovely partner, Madeline, has a 25th birthday coming up, and she said her only wish of the world is a shout out on page seven. We've both been struggling in every sense of the word lately, but she's so strong and

sexy and wonderful to me that I just want to make her wish come true. It's coming true. Happy birthday! I know that y'all have been such a source of comfort for her during some tough times, and it would absolutely make her little Pisces heart explode if she heard her name on the pod. Also, Madeline, I hope you are enjoying Model Land on the Patreon. What a nut cracker story it is. And Creamy wants you to have a good birthday, too.

Well, that's not Creamy? No, that's Miracle. M-Y-R-R-A-C-L-L. E, that is. But anyway, thank you so much for writing in. And Madeline, I hope you have the best fucking birthday. And speaking of cutie Pisces, it's Emily's birthday on the 27th. And Emily Sidney is sending you some 30 fun energy. Sydney says, Emily, Sydney asked for me to sing you a birthday song. And the first song I thought of when I saw your name was a rose for Emily by the zombies, which is about a dead Emily, but you're alive, but I still love the song,

and I'm sure that you know it because I feel like everyone whose name is in a song knows all of the songs with their name in it. But the summer is here at last. The sky is overcast, and no one brings a rose for Emily. Except I would, I definitely would. Emily, Emily, can't you see? There's nothing you can do how the sun. Here's shot.

There's loving everywhere but none for you. It's the opposite of a birthday song. I love you, Sydney. Sorry. But also, happy birthday, Emily. Sidney says I'm writing in to shout out Emily's birthday on February 27th.

She's turning 30 fun. And I'm so excited to celebrate with her this weekend with all sorts of hot tub, karaoke, and Moroccan lemonade shenanigans. It sounds like the best weekend ever. One of their first things we ever bonded over was last podcast on the left. Thank you for introducing me to that Emily.

And then we naturally became obsessed with page seven. Emily, I'm so grateful to have you in my life. And I can't wait for so many more love is blind marathons, drunk karaoke nights, college gymnastics meets, yes, please, weekend trip to adventures, and so much more. Love you so much love, Sydney. I love your friendship. And all of my love goes out to you, Andrew. Andrew hit us up and sent us in a shout out for his wife, Jess. And Jess is a stay-at-home mom.

She is for the last two years, has been pregnant and taking care of our son Wesley and Toby. Our son Toby was born in 2020 and our son Wesley was born in 2021. So to say that we've been busy would be an understatement. Oh, my God. You must be the most patient person in the entire world. And Andrew, I don't want to share your private business with the world, but I just want to say that my heart completely goes out to you, and I hope that this year is even better. I know that Jess is going to take care of you and seems that Jess is an amazing wife.

Andrew continues on to say that I'm giving this shout out to Jess because she takes care of me and my boys every day and has the most beautiful, amazing soul, and I don't know what I would do without her. Jess is an amazing person and an amazing mother, and I would appreciate the shout out, because sometimes she just doesn't always think about herself. And this is Andrew reaching out, and this is me kissing, kissing, kissing you. And Andrew, I wish you all the best with your birthday this year. I know that you guys are going to make it special. Thank you for sharing with me.

And also, if you were interested, dude, please, star, star, star, star. I'm saying the star here so that you pay attention. Check out Andrew's sick artwork. It is at Wasted Space, but there is a V instead of the A, W-A-W-A-S-T-E-S-P-V-C-E on Insta. It's psychedelic collage work, and I dig the fuck out of it. Again, it is W-A-S-T-E-D-S-P-V-C-E. Thank you so much for writing in, Andrew, and thank you for sharing also your sick artwork with us. I hope that your birthday is good as your happy, happy birthday.

you little cutie Pisces as well and I hope everybody has a beautiful day thank you again for writing in for shoutouts and thank you just for sharing things and I get back to as many people as I can I love you guys be good to each other be safe and again the email is page 7 podcast

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