Page 7 - Ep. 441: Kidcation

Episode Date: March 17, 2022

This week we're gossin' 'bout the struggle of working vacations, the Hidden Valley Ranch Diamond and posing the REAL question of 'what CAN be turned into a diamond?', the increasingly High School feeling downfall of Ye (with another appearance by LPN's 4 time Round Tabler of the Year Michael Che), Kim K's horrible take on work, Dolly Parton bowing out of her Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction, and in celeb conspiracy corner; Does Jameela Jamil have Munchausen syndrome!? A list for the slackers out there an......eh, you know the rest! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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The problem I have with having this song stuck in my head is that it's only the beginning part that's stuck in my head. And it goes like, In my eyes, indisposed, in disguise is no, hides the face, lies the snake in the sun in my disgrace. Boiling heat, summer stench, meet the black. The sky looks dead. Call my name through the cream, and I'll hear you scream again. Oh, son, won't you go? And wash away the rain.

Oh, son, won't you come? Thank you for letting me do all of it. We were rocking along. We couldn't stop myself. I can't know. It's stuck in my fucking head. Black Hole Sun is one of those, you know, in the spinning of the wheel of walking on broken glass, the Vanga Bus, Black Hole Sun.

Really? Why? Yeah, it's just in the, it's in my wheel of songs that gets in my head every month or so. That is a one of these things is not like the other situation. Yeah. I know. I mean, it's got a vibe to it, you know, it's funny because it's both a great song and also that song that messed with my MTV horniness watching.

See, and it ups my MTV Horniness watching. God, I love this. song, but at the same time, I am now just very confused and upset, trying to, waiting for the Mariah Carey video that I was so excited to get to. And instead, I'm watching these people's faces morphing into just hideous nightmares. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, it's the nightmares that I crave. Isn't it? Isn't it a crave? MJ's on vacay, not vacay. Vacay not vacay. Vakay not vacay. We love a working vacation. And also a vacation filled with children.

I think there has to be, I am not a parent, obviously. There has to be a separate word for vacation when you are on vacation with not only your children with other people. Is it kidcation? So they're actually a parent of bloggers have tread this familiar territory before and they've landed on calling it a family trip, not vacation. Ah, yes. That makes, I mean, totally. Yeah, it's, you know, because it's, you know, because it's, action-packed, right? I mean, it's not, when does the day start on vacation for MJ? When is,

when is the, when is the day? Kidcation, please. In that sense, it is a vacation for me because it starts, usually I get up an hour before my kids to finish grad school homework that I don't otherwise have to have to finish. So I wake up at about 515. And they wake up at about 645, but on vacation, Gideon is getting up with them. And so then I, I'm sleeping for the next few. So I wake up at about 8.45 on vacation except today. Wow. Big spender.

Wake it up at 8. Oh, don't worry. I had four days where I got to have that and, you know, not have to worry about waking up and doing school work except one of them was taken up by today with an early morning visit to urgent care because what is being a parent if not having an unexpected, you know, necessary to be treated by a doctor illness of one of your children, which actually I feel weirdly proud about because, like, you know how people use the word adulting, like a verb? And it's like, oh, I don't like adulting.

Yes. And it's like doing your taxes or whatever. And I don't like adulting. I hate it. It sucks. But I feel, and parenting is how I, like, I have somehow been a parent now for three and a half years, but I've never felt like, oh, yeah, I'm a parent. Like, I know how to handle things when they come to me. I'm just like, I have these kids, you know, like every minute is a shock.

Like, you know. And I have a kid. And on this trip, I remember to, like, pack Tylenol, and I was so proud of myself. Hell yeah. I'm packing children's Tylenol, which we hopefully won't need because the kids were just sick. So this is just a precaution. Look at me, planning a toiletry bag special for the kids with the kid thermometer and the kid Tylenol. But then, of course, Zellie got such a bad ear infection that the Tylenol was not enough to help her.

Did I pack the children's motel? No. No. That's fine. You got halfway there. We were literally in a house with another family with kids who had children. children's motron, but it was three in the morning, and we did not know how to wake anybody up without waking up all the children. And so, anyway, I was very proud of myself for navigating, finding a urgent care in a strange town where I'm not from.

Hell yet. Driving there with my child who never drives anywhere. Hell yeah. And, you know, so I feel like I really parented today in a way that I adult and hate it. And I didn't, you know, I didn't love it, but I feel proud of myself. Nice. I am so proud of you, MJ. I'm so happy that you're killing it.

And thank you for celebrating yourself, because I feel like you don't celebrate yourself enough. Thank you. And now I plan on trying to channel my innermost Margaritaville, even though it's hard. It's hard on a working vacate to channel your inner Margaritaville. But I, you know, I'm nothing if not somebody who tries hard at trying to relax. And so I will try.

Hell, yeah. to relax. I have a gin and tonic. That's the first step. That is definitely the first step. And I think that the second step is having a hidden valley ranch diamond given to you. How would you... It took five months to produce it, MJ.

Isn't that exactly what you need on your kidcation? Just when I started to feel relaxed, I had to read this story about the Hidden Valley Ranch Diamond. And I mean, I have so many questions. All right. of all, and I've delved in because you can't see something at the surface and not try to figure out more and more. Because I think originally, what's been disturbing me is that, you know, we're not just talking about ranch here.

We're talking about this weird, dry ranch seasoning mix. This is essential to understanding the ranch discourse, though, because not all ranch is wet. Some ranch is dry. Right, and I did not know this. And that's key. Oh, yeah. And it's very key because that is how the diamond. The diamond is not made out of wet ranch, you psychos,

I'm thinking that, because that's insane, okay? It's like you can't make a diamond out of, you know, a bag of piss. You know what I mean? It's got to be dry. If you boil down that piss into some sort of glaze, I feel like you could pressurized said glaze hard enough until it becomes a diamond.

Jackie, yes, but sometimes we think about whether we could and we should, we ought to be thinking about whether we should, and arguably that could be applied here because I don't I think that what's happening here yes it's a ranch diamond but like could you not make any powdered seasoning into a diamond

couldn't you make a gravy diamond you know oh my god for gravy gravy where's the gravy and we throw diamonds at children and actually I just want to tell y'all at home you have most of the stuff already probably in your pantry to make this. Ranch diamond.

Dry seasoning makes. Yeah, so I have, there's a lot of recipes. Here's one. Maybe the one you don't have is dry buttermilk powder. But besides that, dried parsley, dried dillweed, dried, freeze-dried chives, garlic powder, onion powder, sea salt, ground black pepper. A dry ranch powder makes. Also, I just need also everyone to understand because we did get some emails about how

can't believe that we're all ranch haters. I love ranch. Don't get me wrong. I'm weird about ranch. I fucking love ranch. I'm down with the ranch seasoning powder. I don't use it very often, but it does come in handy. However, I do draw the line at carrots and ranch, which yes, it is spelled C-A-R-A-T-S. Carrots and ranch. Like the diamond cats and ranch. It goes together like carrots and ranch. And the diamond is actually kind of beautiful. It's got a great little, ooh, just a dressing kind of sheen. But I will say I also do actually like celery and carrots in ranch.

Yes, I do not draw the line at carrots and ranch in a literal sense because... One of the few uses of ranch that I still can get down. And you know what? If it's out on the table and I'm having some pizza, I will gladly dip my crust into that ranch. I don't think I'm a pizza slice dipper full on like those crazy people. Oh, you know, but they just dip the whole slice. Yeah, they just go full slice in. I'll go full slice in.

You'll go full slice in. Yeah, I love a tub. That's what I call my tub. I say, you bring my tub. Every time I get, so I have my special sliced tub, and Jeff has to fill it with ranch. I say, you can't fill my tub up to the tub. You know what, actually, can we actually just talk about Kanye's mental breakdown? Because I don't know if this is.

Yeah, we're veering towards becoming a ranch exclusive podcast. I'm so disgusted. I'd rather talk about anything I hate. I disgusted you. I haven't done that in a minute. Wow. I won today. It's just the whole thing.

But we didn't even bring up the fact that inside of the ring that has the Ranch Diamond is his HVR, LVR, which is Hidden Valley Ranch Lover, inscribed on the inside of the ring. That might be the most depraved part of this whole. Preved is really good word to describe it. It goes on sale tomorrow. So maybe, I mean, I will say Holden, not to docks your anniversary, but it is your anniversary on St. Patrick's Day.

So funny as new parents were just like, wait, when is it again? We're just trying. And then literally just now Lex was like, maybe we shouldn't even go out to dinner. I was like, we're literally doing nothing already. Like, let's at least just walk. We got reservations for a place, by the way, down the street. No, it's too much. Get it delivered.

Yeah. Look it. Get it delivered. Get a nanny. Get it delivered. So funny. And then sit your bed in the dark. I just lay a bed in the dark.

But yeah, I might maybe I'll get it. get her this incredibly expensive ranch diamond ring. Did you go through the ranch diamond began life as Hidden Valley Ranch seasoning that was first heated to 2,500 degrees, then crushed beneath 400 tons of pressure.

Five months later out popped a lab-produced diamond that was polished and given a round, brilliant cut before being set in a 14-carat white, bald band. And then of course they added the disgust. engraving as well.

Engraving. It's all disgusting. It's all just horrible disgusting things that we're talking about right now. Yeah. No, we can talk about Kanye now. I know that that is probably more. Definitely talk about Dolly Parton because I think that Dolly Parton is very important.

I'll just say about Ye. Did you see? He's already deleted actually. I went to go check back to read the caption. Eight-time Roundtableer of the Year yet again makes an appearance on Yeh's Instagram. I saw this grotto. at like six in the morning when I was like feeding Winnie for her like early morning feed before

going back to sleep. And I'm just like, what the fuck's happening? But also hilariously enough, did you catch it, MJ? No. Well, I mean, today, no. I thought that I was briefed in terms of the back and forth texting. But no, I don't see what happened with Shay. There were all these new posts today.

He's like going after D.L. Hughley. He's going after the writer that posted those Pete Davidson text, which I definitely want to talk about. I'm so happy you sent that article to me, Jackie, because I hadn't read those texts and that was, like, incredible. The Dave Cirrus guy, the writer at S&L, who posted those texts between Pete Davidson and Kanye, and then going after Pete Davidson and everything.

But he's already deleted this one post where he just posted a picture of Michael Che from a Google search and literally was just like, great guy, love him. That was it. I was like, what the fuck? Somehow that's just like the perfect relationship for Chey to have of Kanye. Like, Kanye being like, I have no problems with this man.

Which hilarious because his hilarious reaction posed to Ye offering him to quit S&L and paying him more money, you know, I thought was kind of, I mean, it wasn't like mean towards Gay, but it was kind of lampooning the whole situation. So, yeah. I just don't even understand why Che is such a, how he's such a bullet dodger, man. That guy is like Neo in the Matrix. He really is. Yeah.

He just makes it work for. He's a talented man. He makes it. But he is somehow, it has got to be nerve-wracking, navigating a public feud with Kanye West. And somehow, Shea is coming out looking fantastic. You have to also come out. I think you have to balance it, I guess, by also being petty, because I don't know if it's for the best

that the pictures of the text that Pete Davidson was sending to Kanye were publicized. And at first I almost didn't send it just because it was like, well, I feel bad that this is getting publicized these private text messages between the two of them. But you know what? Also, Ye does need to grow the fuck up, which is exactly what Pete Davidson texted to Kanye while also taking a picture of him in bed with Kim Kardashian. Not in a Gino-Jasmine kind of way on 90-day fiancé, just a selfie of him. How dare you bring up Gino and Jasmine? How dare you do that?

Wait, do you think he was really in bed with Kim because it's definitely a photograph of him in bed by himself, which I think is funny too. I mean, it does look like he's like on one side of the bed. I don't know. I mean, you know. This is what he said to Ye. Can you please take a second and calm down?

It's 8 a.m. And it don't got to be like this. Kim is literally the best mother I've ever met. What she does for those kids is amazing and you're so fucking lucky that she's your kid's mom. I've decided I'm not going to let you treat us this way anymore. And I'm done being quiet. Grow the fuck up.

And what did Ye say in response? Oh, you're using profanity. Where are you right now? And he said, in bed with your wife, took a picture of himself, which even if he's not in bed with him, it's great. It's even better if he's not actually in bed with him. That's why I ask, because it's so hilarious that it's clearly a picture of him in bed by himself.

And he could be with Kim, but he could just be trolling. And it must be very satisfying as a comedian for Pete Davidson to have not been able to respond for this long for whatever reason. It's probably trying to de-escalate things. And now to be like, okay, I have the tools in my comedy tool belt to be funny about this as I respond and to like, I feel like he, you know, he's got to come out feeling pretty good about the way that that all went. And I will say, quick side note, you know, they did go Instagram official, Kim Kardashian posted on Instagram, pictures of them together from the Carlisle,

their Valentine's Day, romantic weekend. You can see those pictures. So I, we definitely know that they're like more serious than they ever have been before based on that. Anyways, yeah, back to the text. Yeah. Yeah. And so, so he's so. He's so. He's so. He's. sends this picture of himself shirtless in bed, and it keeps going after that. And I also, man, really fucking appreciate Pete Davidson. Again, I'm not sure. Now, they're reps, like Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson's reps,

are not getting back to them. So we don't know exactly who let these leak, but it would make sense if it was Pete Davidson's people, because this does make, but he even says in it. I can confirm that, David Cirrus. I mentioned that. So if you go on Ye's Instagram right now, you'll see a picture of the guy based on a Google search,

much like the one he did with Che. This guy, David Cirrus, who is a writer on S&L. I believe he works with Pete Davidson. He, I believe, is the one who posted those texts on his Instagram. I think he's kind of being a bit of a cipher for Pete Davidson a little bit. So that Pete doesn't have to post them. Because Pete Davidson left Instagram and went and just, apparently he said it wasn't, didn't have anything to do with the EA stuff.

He just like went on Instagram for a couple seconds and very immediately was like, I hate the positive messages. I hate the negative messages. I hate social media. Give me the fuck off this. So that's why David's serious, which is why Ye goes after him saying, come on, Dave, please help write some more culturally irrelevant jokes for Skeet.

You don't have to have talent these days. You just need a Hillary Clinton tattoo. And he has a post about Dave. And then he posts Pete Davidson's Hillary Clinton tattoo, which is about bad tattoo. I can't believe Pete Davidson has a Hillary Clinton tattoo. That's my least favorite part of all this. taken off, but I don't appreciate Pete Davidson, reaching out to Yay and being like, let me help you, man, I struggle with mental health stuff, mental stuff too. It's not an easy journey. You don't have to feel this way anymore. There's no shame in having a little help. You'll be so happy and at peace. Apparently Pete Davidson has also been standing in front of Yeh, like, for S&L and saying, like, I've stopped S&L from talking about or making fun of you, which they've wanted to do for months. And he's trying to keep a separation of, you know, S&L and Yays.

state right now. And now all of this stuff is out in the open. And it does make sense that it's not Pete Davidson actually posting it because this makes him seem really, really good. But also, it does make him seem really good. Well, I would say it's kind of funny. He's like, man, let me help you.

You little bitch. Yes, right. It's definitely. I'm going to help you. It's not, I would say it comes up like, like, are you pissed off by now, though? Of course. I'd be pissed the fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Pete Davidson says, you don't scare me, bro. Your actions are so pussy and embarrassing. It's so sad to watch you ruin your legacy on the daily. And then, Ye says, you're more than welcome to come to Sunday service. And then Pete says, why don't we meet after Sunday service in Saints game, his kid's soccer game, he's been very public about talking about how he's going to go to after service. Why do we know these facts?

We know so much about it. I'll be at the BHS. We can have food and talk it out in my room, privately one-on-one man-to-man. what you were doing to your family is dangerous and going to scar them for life. Please handle these matters privately, bro. I beg you. So it's like all of a sudden it just keeps oscillating back and forth. He says,

you want to see me come to Sunday service? And then he says, Ye says that. And then Pete says, this isn't public dude. I'm not here for pictures and press, which is obviously all you care about. My offer stands.

I wish you'd man up for once in your life. Wow, by the way. Let me help you, man. I struggle with mental stuff too. This is so funny when you guys. It's like, I wish you'd man up for once in your life.

Let me help you, man. I struggle with middle health stuff too. It's not an easy journey. You don't have to feel this way anymore. There's no shame at having a little help. You'll be so happy and at peace. You have no idea how nice I've been to you despite your actions towards me.

I've stopped Estenelle from talking about or making fun of you, which they've won and two for months. I've stopped stand-up comedians and then it cuts off, which I wish we got the fun. I'm like, where's the rest of it? Give us the name. Where's the rest of it? I guess part of me, though, when you read that where, how the texts go, right?

Haven't you ever said something that has gone too far, and then you pull back and like, all right, I shouldn't be going down this road. I feel like it's like you can feel it in the text of like that road. Totally. I shouldn't be saying this shit. Yeah. Anger. It's not going to get me anywhere.

And I do like it just humanizes the situation a lot more because again, like this is really happening. This is like a genuine thing that is happening to people that us as like, you know, we're staring at the fishbow being like, man, that's crazy. those fish are going to like kill each other and then what's going to happen? It's like, no, everybody needs help in this situation and we're just watching

it happen. I do love watching fish kill each other to fishbow, but I don't know what the fish do. They get in there, they're going after their little bits of food. You got the sucky ones, the sucky ones stay on the fucking screen thing. It's not a screen, or so water would come out. Eat the algae or something. Yeah, algae fuckers. What a boring fuck-faced fish, by the way.

Oh, you're just going to suck on the fucking No, the sucker queens the tank. But anyways. I watch Finding Nemo a lot because my nibbling loved fighting Nemo. Okay. Not only is it like, oh, wow, celebrities are just like us. But what was kept going through my head, I was like, this is high school shit. This is like insane.

Like this reminds me of high school shit. But who amongst us hasn't found ourselves in a disturbingly high school shit event in our late 20s to early 40s? Right. And you're like, why am I in this high school shit? shit. Exactly, exactly, right? Which is a lot of why I'm like, oh, and then you like have kids and you get married, and you sort of cut, you know,

you cut a lot of people out that are really dramatic and because of this stuff. And you sort of try to like not bring this kind of drama whirlwind into the people you love's lives, right? You know, because it's just fucking nuts. But it just, all I can think about is like the, it reminds me

of couples and euphoria more than anything else. It reminds me of the, what is the, what is the couple with the guy who's terrible and the... Nate. Nate. And, you know, it reminds me of that situation. And literally anybody? Yeah.

Like, it reminds me of that situation, like, the really toxic relationship, but they're also, like, the most popular kids. And then she leaves him and, and, you know, what's going to fuck with him the most? Some guy covered in tattoos that fucking is so confident, doesn't give a fuck, and is, you know, technically maybe even more beat up kind of in a way looking, you know. but that's like part of the angle. Like that that's just going to drive him crazy that he's with Machine Gun Kelly

and his tidy Whitey's acting ridiculous in an Instagram post. Ugh, with Machine Gun Kelly. That was, I mean, it was fun though. I loved it. And Kanye posted, it was so weird for us to talk about that and be like, that's fun. And then like, it's on his Insta.

I mean, it's just so, it's just never usually, like, we assume shit like this goes down with celebrities. It's just never quite ever been this. public and I don't even I it's so crazy like I and what's funny is in a weird way I kind of do feel yay's pain I have been there I've been the the guy that um you know like for me it was less of a thing I wasn't actually in a relationship but I remember like I was courting this girl I thought we were like going to be boyfriend girlfriend uh sophomore junior year of high school She ended up totally dating my like really close friend instead.

I had to deal with that in a very, and that's when I'm like, oh, wow, I've kind of been here. I've been the guy brooding off the corner doing crazy shit, by the way, acting out doing crazy shit, being like, well, at least I can try to burn their relationship down by causing so many problems for them. But also, how old were you? it won't be worth it. I know. That's what I'm saying. I was fucking 16. That's what I'm saying.

It's so crazy. And I understand, but at the same time, it's like, it's not your fault, but it's your responsibility, A, to take care of your fucking mental health. I mean, mental health aside, that is a tactic.

He's using it out, and I've used it before. So, in a way, I mean, again, I was a teenager when I did it, so that's why we feel really awkward seeing this stuff on a grown man's Instagram page. Especially in front of kids, man.

there where the tactic is, I'm going to make this so, just such a pain in his fucking ass to be in a relationship with this woman, that he finally, hopefully one day just wakes up and says, you know what, it's not worth it. Hell no. But unfortunately, when you do that, it just pushes them together. Of course it does. Yeah.

No wonder he's out here publicly calling somebody a pussy, which, I mean, it's 2022. We don't even really do the shit anymore. But the fact that he's doing this because he's so frustrated that it's just pushing them closer together. and she was in Staten Island for Christmas. That has to say something. And to be on the top of your, I feel like the,

you know, we've all, I've certainly been the Kanye in terms of being like enormously jealous and hurt and scorned, like lover. But, and I feel like I,

the Pete situation is also interesting because this guy's like, fucking everything is going right in his life. He is on top of his absolute fucking A game. And then now suddenly he's basically like, he just didn't really talk publicly. at all for what six weeks or something because he didn't want to like escalate things with this guy who was making public death threats against him. And I imagine that must have been really frustrated

to be like, man, I am dating the hottest, most famous woman on earth. I am a 28 year old comedian whose fucking ship has come in. And I have to kind of like just stand back and let this guy have a meltdown, which is why the texts are so satisfying. And right, he kind of gets to have it both wait because he gets to be like, I'm in bed with your wife. And then literally the next text is like, no, but seriously, man, just like take it easy. Exactly. And that's kind of not cool. I don't really appreciate that, which is why I'm surprised he would actually have his dude

post those texts. I don't think it makes him look that good. No. I think that's the part that makes my skin crawl is the I'm in bed with your wife thing. The other thing makes my skin crawl is Kim Kardashian telling women they need to get up and start working order. I know. It doesn't help that I cannot root for Kim right now.

and fucking work your ass off. Exactly. All I want to do is for Kim in this situation. And then you say shit like that, man. What are you talking about? Kim is not one of us, you know. I feel for her in terms of how she has handled the Kanye situation. I think many of us, if many of us have been the Kanye, many of us have also been the Kim and dealing with, you know, people who were abusers or not respecting boundaries or whatever.

So Kim is super probably more relatable than she's ever been in this particular situation. with Kanye, right? And then she just goes ahead and opens her mouth. And then when she opens her fucking mouth, it's just like, oh my God, stop. Pete Davidson is by far the most relatable person in this triad. Totally. And yet still now I'm like, but I can't. I've been in the situation.

The Ye's been in where it's like when you're like so in love with this other person and you're like, this guy you're dating, this new guy is an asshole. You know what I mean? But that person's usually wrong. I mean, I think, who knows if Pete David's, is an asshole or not, right? But there's no question. People say he's very nice.

He seems nice. And we even have mutual friends. I mean, again, Michael Chey, the late great Kevin Barnett, who were like tight with him. And he was, you know, and I so if those dudes vouched, then I'm, I'm cool. Like Pete Davidson is just, he's much, in the seven circles of Kevin Bacon, Pete Davidson is much closer to like a regular person than Kanye West. Just because of Kanye's, you know, massive fame and, and, you know, skyrocketing success. and like, you know, Kanye seems this kind of like an otherworldly figure

because he presents himself that way and he's kind of maintained his life that way. Oh my God, if you watch it as just like, I'm just some guy. Yeah. Yes. And like, no, I still haven't watched genius yet because Gideon was like,

shouldn't we not watch a documentary about somebody who's like having a public abuse thing? And I was like, no, no, no, no. Totally watch it. Definitely watch it. Because it's, it addresses, it handles it. It's not like, I feel like calling it genius throws people off on what the approach is.

It's actually much more approach is. It's actually much more approach of how fame and personal tragedy and mental health issues can, like, ruin a person more than anything else. But I do want to circle back to what you were saying about Kim because you were about to talk about what she had said. So in case anyone was not aware. Kim Kardashian said, I have the best advice for women in business. Get your fucking ass up and work. It seems like nobody wants to work these days. Oh my God.

You have to surround yourself with people that want to work. and I just immediately, in looking this up, there was an editor who was an editor for the Kardashian Apps in 2015 in L.A. This is a tweet that she put out. I was an editor on the Kardashian apps in 2015 in L.A. I worked days, nights, and weekends. I could only afford groceries from the 99th only store. I had to call in sick more than once because I couldn't put gas in my car to get the office. I was also reprimanded for freelancing on the side. So it's like, this is someone that worked for their company and then you're going to say people don't work you're going to you're going to have all these big companies you're going to be paying people non-living wages and then you're going to say you have the

audacity to say get your fucking ass up and work now i'm not going to say that what she said at least when it comes down to like you got to work for it if you want something you got to work for it i agree with this but she is not the person to be saying it and especially to put people people down if it seems like nobody wants to work these days. Yeah. Are you looking around? All she had to do is just say, get your ass up. Even that maybe it doesn't come off.

I guess. All you have to do is be positive. Just don't be like, no, it seems like no one wants to work these days. Just like, you have no point of ref. Like, what do you mean the people around you? It's like such a conservative talking point too. Like, I feel like that's like there was this thing with the pandemic when there was like unemployment where there started to emerge this talking point.

Like people don't want to work. And there was, you know, like fast food signs. Yeah. You're going to say some of bootststress. straps next. Yeah, exactly. People be like, oh, no one wants to work. And it's like, okay, maybe people would rather, if people were making more money on unemployment than they were not making a living wage in like service industry jobs, that doesn't mean people don't want to work. It means people were not, don't want to work for a starvation wage. And so to the extent to which like,

it's just such a, such a, first of all, Kim Kardashian is not interacting with anyone who doesn't work for her, you know? So like, what is she even channeling? And, and, and, it's just such a, such a, such a, first of all, And B, telling women to just, like, work harder, especially if you're talking about working women, most of the time, the problem with working women not being able to, like, work harder is, like, has to do with, like, them, like, not having child care or, you know, like, needing fucking health care for their, like, there's all these, you know, this is this hustle culture thing, especially with women and especially with, like, working moms, it's like, well, I wake up at four in the morning. I mean, I just said this earlier. I wake up five in the morning. I'm not proud of the fact that I wake up at five in the morning. I don't want other people to do that. No, you're saying it in a way of like, that is your reality. It's just a reality, right. Yes, there's a difference between flaunting it about how hard. We talk about this.

I talk about this over on my Twitch stream often about how we just glorify this culture of working your fingers to the bone and like never stopping. And I'm guilty of it. And I'm trying to change that myself. But it's very difficult. So fucking thanks, Kim Kardashian. Thank you so. much. Oh, the fucking billionaires think that the peons don't work enough. And this is the thing,

and you've internalized it, I've internalized it. And to the extent to which we've had success, you know, from working hard, of course it is from working hard, but also it's a million other things too, right? Like, the fact, if somebody isn't successful, like, rarely, obviously we all know people in our life who are just like lazy asses who don't work, but like, by and large, do you really think that most people who are like, haven't reached their dreams, haven't reached them because they have no ambition? Or is it because there's a lot of other shit they have to deal with that baby has come to them, that is preventing them?

And should we all have internalized hustle culture so much that we are incapable of feeling joy for just for not working, that our sense of self-worth is wrapped up in how hard we work. This is from the work vacations. I had to talk on my vacation. I put down a microphone, MJ. Get out of here. You know what? You're right.

I'm going to walk away. I'm going to leave this. Just have another sip of your G&T. I think that's what you. That's how you change it. Oh, my God. Or we could all be a little bit more like Dolly in our lives as well and just really put it out there of who exactly they are and what they are worth and owning that and not in a way

of flaunting it. I'm sorry, did I cut off what you were saying, MJ? No, no. I think Be like Dali is. I just, I think that working hard is great. And I think the people who work hard because they can. care and try to do what they love should, it's great for them. But also, work sucks, and we should all embrace that too.

Work sucks. I know. Like, it's okay to not want to work, you know? It's okay to want to relax. And I just feel like people, I fucking hate this hustle culture shit. Kim's job is literally a professional life of leisure. Like, oh yeah, work hard by waking up and letting people videotape you having fun. Sure.

Yeah, the other thing too is like, and I would also honestly say that, I do think actually Kim Kardashian does work hard. I think she works hard. But at the same time, but it's not like she doesn't work in a factory or something. And she also doesn't have to make her own meals or really even watch her own kids or have to commute to work every day. Or do anything that every day people have to do that takes up precious hours of the day, that they have to do themselves, that she will have never had any context of even from birth.

And that is the part that is annoying as fine. me. Like, you have no idea. You're trying to give advice to people whose lives you've never, ever even come close to living. And because people always want to go back and forth, you know, and say, be like, but she does work, you know, she's an entrepreneur and all this stuff. I'm not, I'm not taking away from that. Totally. And I, I did, she has a life of leisure, but she does work hard, and she's obviously very smart, competent entrepreneur who does work hard and has a vision. With a personal chef and a private jet. Right. You know what I mean? I mean, there's just so many more, I mean, I'm even in a situation right now

where I'm like, how do I create more hours in the day so I can work on these other things? I'm trying, I want more hours for more work. But I can't, you know what I mean? But I literally can't do it because I've got to raise a fucking seven month old and make dinner for my family every night. You know what I mean?

And it's just like, it is what it is. So I have to set aside some of my plans to like write a screenplay or this, that or the other, to like try to create new avenues of work for now. You know what I mean? There's just always something that people are telling you you should be doing. And it's like, even, it's like, and if you're doing all that hold in it, and then you'll be told like, well, you should really just enjoy your baby.

Right. Enjoy your baby. Like the audio that was going on in that TikTok, like you only have little kids for four years. And if you miss it, it's gone. It's like, bitch, I, what, who's missing what? Like, I am struggling my way through this. It's hard. Of course I enjoy it.

Of course I know I'm going to miss it. But also, it's hard. Like, you just try to make women feel guilty. and caregivers feel guilty. And Holdens as well. And Holdens feel guilty. But this is what I mean. Like people, you know, it's like, you know, the people who are doing the work to take

care of their families, you should be, you should either be working harder or if you're not working because you're trying to keep up with your family, it's like, well, you should really just, you know, simultaneously work hard, but also enjoy every second. And that's why I will be writing my screenplay this year. It's called Mr. Mom. Wait a second. Already happened to Holden, but you could do the reboot. and I would love to see the reboot of it completely.

Uh-oh. It's what we're all begging for, and just like we're begging for more Dolly Parton, we all need more Dolly Parton. Let's talk about the fact that Dolly Parton bowed out of being, of their nomination for being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She said, I don't feel that I've earned that right.

I really don't want votes to be split because of me, so I must respectfully bow out. I do hope that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will understand and be willing to consider me again, if I'm ever worthy. This has, however, inspired me to put out a hopefully great rock and roll album at some point in the future, which I've always wanted to do. And so she continues on in talking about this, but this is no, you know, this, we've got, been here with Dolly Parton before. Anytime that she's been offered, like a presidential award or a medal from, like, I think the

Trump administration tried to give her two of them, and she declined. And, but she also, apparently, Biden's administration is also thinking about offering her a medal of honor. She has declined because she doesn't want any political affiliation. This isn't even, and what I love about her so much, talk about comparing apples to oranges of Dolly Partons to Kim Kardashian's, where she's not saying in this, I am lesser than. She's not saying like, oh, I, you know, the fact that she's saying, I don't deserve this is because she doesn't feel

that she belongs in these specifically, Rock and roll Hall of Fame. And I understand that. And she explains that fully and doesn't make, she's not putting herself down because of it. I don't think. I don't like the phrase if I'm ever worthy, because I think that she is worthy of absolutely everything. But she also didn't want to have a huge, because this Tennessee rep tried to introduce

a bill to put up a huge statue honoring Dolly Parton. She also turned that down and said that it was inappropriate. and that was for all of the charity work that she does and how much she gives back. And she still doesn't want to be honored for it. How many millions of dollars did she give to help fund a vaccine for our country? Like, this is crazy. And like, you know, Dolly Parton, to the point again to Kim Kardashian, like, came up as like a working class, like, icon, right? I feel like that's what so, like what nine to five is, right?

And obviously she's a millionaire now, and she would be the first to tell you. It's not like she is out there still pretending that she's exactly still an icon of the working class per se. But her thing was like, I am like proud of these signifiers. Yeah. She could, yeah.

Right. And she's purposely, I think, cultivated a life as a millionaire to try to not forget what it's actually like to be working class. but I feel like that's what's so cool and interesting about her to me as a public figure and as a famous person as a rich person because her thing is like there is dignity and pride in being a working class person, which is not what the vast majority of messaging is around being a working class person, including things that are branded to working class people like Larry the Cable guy and that type of thing is like, you people are dumb.

Whereas like, Dolly Parton's thing... You might be smarter than a fifth grade or old Jeff Foxworthy. We miss you. Whereas, like, Dali Parton is, I just feel like she just, her thing is like, there is, her thing was like, there is dignity in being poor and there is dignity in working, like, shitty jobs. Like, I think that's, like, really meaningful, you know. Well, and I also feel like, and I had this, I had this same thought to watch, because I like to watch the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame special. They're great, because they all put him up on, they've always put them up on HBO. HBO, yeah, HBO Max. It always comes out.

And it's a lot of fun. There's a lot of great performances. the go-goes this last year, Carol King, food fighters. But also, I was watching Jay Z and L.L. Cool Jay, you know, get inducted. And I'm like, all about, I'm not complaining. Like, obviously, I haven't heard me complain about it because I'm like, fuck yeah, I want to watch Jay Z like be celebrated and, you know, LL as well. But at the same time, it is called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And I think what Dolly is also saying here is like, I've never put out a rock and roll record in my life. how am I being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

And in a way, it is kind of funny. And, you know, there was in that article, I believe, that you sent Food Fighters, Dave Grohl rather, was like, yeah, it's like, because rock and roll is like an attitude. It's not like a, but it is also a very specific genre of music. And the Hall of Fame used to be about that. And now they're just totally like, no, it's just like a way of being. It's just like a youth culture thing. I'm like, okay, sure, rock and roll of fame.

I'm sure that's not just you try to get as many, like, people to support the institution as possible and not just, you know, while defying, like, the genre that this was built on to be inducted. And, again, I love that Ellicle J and JZ are adducted the rock and roll of fame. I loved their performances. But it does feel a little, it's just not rock and roll, man. Like, no matter what way you slice it, it does feel weird that all of a sudden they're just like, yeah, everything's rock and roll. It's all rock and roll.

You know what I mean? you're just like, I don't, okay, I guess Carol King is rock and roll. How dare you? Yes, she is. She's an innovator. I do think that I read a couple of articles that we're talking about how it seems like it was more of a grab because the rock and roll hall of fame, and I don't know this for sure, at least there are rumors that it is going under.

And so that is why, like, well, Dolly Parton is a huge institution when it comes to just not only being a good person, but music in general. So I understand the want to have Dolly Parton be a part of the rock and roll hall in fame. But I just love that she stands for what she believes in and could see that and understand it, but still doesn't feel that she's meant to be there. And she just stands up for herself in a way that like even that article brought up that interview, I believe this one did, the interview that she had with Baba Weissan, not Babo Swazahn, and babo-waw-was.

Yeah. And when, I think it was like 1977, when she was kind of ripping her apart for her, just everything about her, about how she comes off, about how she dresses, and she just took it with a smile. And because she's forever been a person

that can stand up against people when they're trying to pin holes in her pinata cushion. That doesn't make any sense. But you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. She really is like a mirror image of Kim Kardashian, and I do have a lot of respect for Kim Kardashian. Because I think she does work hard, but it's different if you are, if you are raised wealthy. It's just different.

Yes, it's different. And there's interesting parallels in terms of like being a hot woman who like does things, weaponizes your hotness and your sexuality. Right. I think that that's, there's some interesting connections there between Dolly and Kim in terms of like, Dolly's boobs and Kim's. sex tape and like how the both the way that both of them are, you know, are kind of, those are both things to use to dismiss that the fact that they have talent, you know. Right, right, right, totally. And also Pete Davis is going to space. How are they so good at making us talk about them every week? It is unbelievable. They have the almost unbelievable PR team.

I am, like, they must be that they, like, because if you think about it, is there ever a newsweek? And like, I often don't bring up the Kardashians. Oh, yeah, they're always in, but one of them is all. It's always in the top of the headlines of almost every single website I look at. Their PR team is unbelievable. We were screaming about this on talking TV. Or Holden didn't know that they got rid of keeping up with the Kardashians.

And now the Kardashians, the reality show, is starting on the Uber. And of course they're not going away. Just thought they'd be like maybe we should take one year off of showing every second of our personal lives. And then you have to, sometimes you have to be more like a Heidi Montag and you've got to start eating raw bison hearts in public to get people to be talking about you. But now I know that we're running at a time because we got to get to our conspiracy. It's a going this week.

But I mean, all of the pictures of her just tear it into raw bison hearts on the street. Go ahead. Eat raw meat. But are you, you have to eat raw meat outside out as, uh, uh, a Zi-block bag. You're like a little bag of goldfish, but instead of the gold fish snacks, it's some fucking raw bison heart.

Yeah, the gross part two was the sushi comment. Where is it? I just happen to like eating sushi-style organs. Oh. You know, again, that's fine. Do it. And you can even talk about it if you want to, but don't make it your whole personality.

I love sushi, but I don't walk down the, I have eaten sushi walking down the street, but I try not to. Oh yeah, if you've got to get it in there, sometimes you just got to get it in there. For the work and MJ on the go, I mean, you can't stop and eat. I mean, why would you do that?

You have to be getting to your next job occupies. I know. See, this is why I hate hustle, hustle culture. Can't sit down to eat my sushi. Have you thought about that? You are, MJ, you are the, I'm just the more, more I think about it, you are the quintessential icon for working culture.

Oh my God, I hate that. You've got your in school and working, how many jobs? I'm actually work, I am a, I'm, like, I want to say full of, there's a lot of things, I have a full schedule, but not a full of work. It's a lot of other things. That's good. See, look at us.

I could use more work in terms of money. But, you know, I'm in grad school so that I can one day get a job where I will have health insurance. And that's, that is my hustle. And then you get to hide your 12 years of podcasting. don't look at that. You don't need to look at the podcast. It's fine.

Well, this is, this is going to be a great one this week. I'm really excited about our celebrity conspiracy. Hit me with the share. Do you believe it? Does Jamila Jamil have Munchausen syndrome? Wow. Okay, I'm in. This is a really, like, one of those ones, because so many of them are like,

oh, does, you know, Tom Hanks barf in his shoes or something? I bet he does, though. I bet he does, though. If anybody would, he would. He loves puky shoes. But in this, this one is like legitimate. So here we go.

Come down, this was a worm time hole. I went down and I'm excited to share with you guys. Also, for everyone that is not aware, Munchausen syndrome, a mental disorder in which a person repeatedly and deliberately acts as if they have a physical or mental illness when they are not really sick.

And Munchausen by proxy. Munchausen's biproxy, right, Or you make your kids sick. Yes. Or somebody else you're caring for. Or maybe just pathological liar. We'll get it.

Okay, all right. Let's get into it. I'm excited for this. This one comes in from Liv, who says, Hi, page seven, love y'all, love the pod. Let's get right into it. I was a huge fan of Jamila and all of the work that she did for mental health and body positivity advocacy, but I wasn't really familiar with her as a person or her past.

Then one day, a few years ago, I heard podcaster Tracy Morrissey talk about Jamila Jamil and it completely changed the way. at her. Tracy has compiled years' worth of quotes directly from Jamila that contradict each other and tell some really wild stories. If all of these stories that Jamila has told are true, then she has been attacked by swarms of bees multiple times, survived cancer twice, overcame being deaf as a child, has had lots of concussions, and broken almost every bone in her body and more. And by the way, this isn't just hearsay, I told you I went out of worm time. I mean, I watched interviews on late-night talk shows.

Oh, my God. Yeah, and definitely, I'll send you guys the link if you want after to follow up, because it's a ton of Instagram stories on user Tracy Morrissey's account. And Tracy Morrissey compiled them all in like one thing called the JJ tab. And it highlights there she has documented her at least decades worth of Jamila contradicting her own stories. One of her bee stories included music producer Mark Ronson, and he actually did an interview addressing it,

basically debunking the story. He said there were like one or two bees during an instance instead of, quote, like 500 bees, end quote, Jamil claimed to be present during her lunch. Okay, the Instagram story is like, I'll just say, yeah, all of this stuff is true. Swarms of bees. She claimed she had survived cancer twice,

and then that was contradicted that one of them was just like a breast cancer scare, the deaf thing totally she's talked about, the concussion she talks about like how she was horribly injured at like her, you know, working on set and stuff like that. And then there'll be like video of her supposed big injury and then her just walking around like it's totally fine afterwards, even though she claims she like lost a tooth and had a concussion. Just all this kind of wild stuff. Ad nauseum, just endless amounts of it. I mean, I was really blown away by it.

Liv says, I am an immunocompromise person. So I completely understand people who have weak immune systems like myself having health issues the stem from that. But this many health issues should make her an anomaly when it comes to modern medicine. But even if you completely disregard what she has said about her medical history, she still seems to contradict herself when it comes to her past work and other parts of her life. And then this was followed up. More links from that tab.

She has claimed that she was a model. and then other time she said that she was never a model. She claims that she DJed Elton John's birthday party, which a Instagram user seems to debunk as well. Liv says, listen, I love a scammer and totally understand a comedian exaggerating a story for laughs. But all of these alleged stories just seem really strange and there doesn't seem to be any real reason behind her exaggerating them.

So I need to know, if you all believe, I can't wait to hear what y'all think. Also, I want to give a huge shout out to Jackie for shouting out my virtual-infused cooking classes. That was the sweetest. And if any of you last podcast, baddies, ever want to virtually learn how to make edibles, just let me know.

I would love to give you all a class. It's sick. It's sick. Did they put in their Instagram handle? Heart, Chef Live. And if I fucked up and didn't include it, but it was in there, then I apologize. Well, come hang out over on Twitch.

TV photo slash, oh, no, it's Shacky. I'll push it over there because it's, because she teaches people how to make Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was blown away by this. Like, definitely check out that Instagram user's page because it just is endless.

And I mean, it's so funny too because, like, bee attacks. And the Mark Rons thing, he was like, yeah, we were at lunch. There was like one or two bees that came and then we walked inside. I. As opposed to being attacked by literally a swarm of bees is what she claims. These types of stories actually scare me a little bit because I feel like it's a bit of a there but for the grace of God go I. If I had gotten famous when I was younger and I was trying and I was a comedian and I was just selling store exact. You know, like I feel like when I was younger, like same with when Mike Daisy, the famous storyteller got in trouble because he got this like he did this story that went on this American life about going to the Apple factory in China.

And then it turned out he had like basically constructed a like better story as a storyteller, but it wasn't journalism. And everyone was like, wow, you lied. And I feel like I can imagine telling a story like at a party being drunk and being like dude as a swarm of bees. Like I can like truly imagine doing it. And making it a little bit more entertaining. Yes. Yes. So this so, but it sounds like she might have like a chronic problem with that.

I don't know. Jackie, what do you think? Right. Oh, real quick too. Before you get into that, Jackie. her Instagram is at Livy Smalls L-I-V-V-I-E-S-M-A-L-S at Livy-S-M-A-L-S. Thank you so much for the chef.

Thank you so much for writing in. I do wonder, because I also, at the same time, have met people before that are more of a little bit of prevaricators because they grew up with a lot of health issues. It does seem that Jamila, Jamil had a lot of health issues growing up, but again, we don't know if that is true or not. And I do feel that, like, friends that I've had in my life that were always sick and in and out of hospitals, because, like, also, Jamila, Jamil

apparently had, like, bad mercury poisoning and also a celiac disease and has a hypermobilder Ellers-Donlo's syndrome. That's so great. That's so much stuff. It's a lot of things. But also, sometimes when you meet someone that is that, that is that, that is. is a sickly person, you're just like, and you're still, like, and that, and then that, and then that, that does blow your mind. So I feel bad in saying that, like, maybe she's a liar.

Right. Maybe all this shit did happen to her. Who knows? And that fucking sucks. I don't know. But it's just very compelling evidence because there's a lot of contradictions in those recollections at the same time. Like, one of the good examples was she said she's a two-time cancer survivor or whatever,

right? And one of them is, I think, cancer in her spine. The other one, I believe, is the breast cancer. But then also, that was literally, then in other stories, she had a breast cancer scare. She literally just, there was a thing she had to go get followed up on, and it turned out it wasn't breast cancer. So it's not, I mean, that's not a cancer survivor.

You just had a lump you had to get checked out. You know what I mean? And isn't she also a little bit famous for just kind of like being really clumsy with her, like, advocacy and politics? Yes. and like, especially around, like, fat positivity and body positivity and stuff. So I feel like that doesn't mean that she's a pathological liar, but it does, again, kind of paint a picture of somebody who maybe is just, like,

struggling to figure out what public image they are cultivating, you know? Yeah. Maybe we slap a liar on her. Maybe we slap a liar on her. I think she's a liar. I'm saying it. I don't think Munchausens. I think that maybe she might over-exaggerate, I would say.

Sure. At the very least, I'll go with that. Because at the same time, I am the kind of person that if two bees come after me, I would be like, I almost died from the bees. Like 500 bees? You would think it was like 500 bees. But also you can't like this is a thing, though. I would hope that she's smarter about lying about this stuff. You can't lie about the stuff what other people are there. But this is what I mean about getting famous when you're fairly young. Like you feel invincible. Yeah. Imagine how much stupid stuff we would have said in a bigger platform if we got famous when we were 20, you know, in our early 20s. We would have said, I would, I would just, my paper trail would be filthy, you know, like the things I would have said and not said, you know, it's people. Yeah.

Yeah. And she was, honestly, she was on Channel 4 starting in 2009, which would make her in her early or like mid-20s. Yeah. So it's like it does, yeah, it does make sense of like really killing it young. and and maybe things, and sometimes maybe your prevarications go a little, you don't mean to exactly, just kind of losing control of things. I can imagine having that happen. If you're famous when you're young and you're like, everyone listens to everything I say, but also I'm a comedian, but also I'm extremely hot and I'm extremely famous and I'm just going to say this and I'm going to say this. But again, I'm not, I mean, the problem with this is that, right, a lot of chronically

old people are constantly told that they're lying and we're not doing that, you know. We don't want to do that. But I do think that this is a fun one just because she's such a, like, all over the place person. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. All right. There you go. Thank you so much. Back to you, Jackie. It's back to me because it's time for the list. Oh, who's on the list. Jackie? Gotta have that list. Slacker movies with eyebrow arching backstories. I did not know this. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure, Bill and Ted thought they were cast as the other one until costume fitting.

The two actors were cast as the other role, but it wasn't cleared up until the costume fitting. Alex Winter said that the Keanu Reeves was like, these clothes don't fit me. What is this half shirt sweater thing? I can't fit in this. And then they had, which I think is... That's cute.

I'm sad I didn't know that lore because I feel like... Aren't they kind of the same guy? They're kind of similar. No, they're drastically different. hold. Or a character rather. Yes, they're very similar characters, which, but then this makes a lot of sense in Wayne's World, which we did a Wayne's World pop history episode of, which they canonically Dana Carvey and Mike Myers did it like each other. And apparently Dana Carvey is actually playing the

drum solo in Wayne's World. Wayne and Garth are music and stoner loser layabouts, but talented ones when Dana Carvey's Garth plays a rocking drum solo, that actually is Carvey playing the drums. He did a solo on S&L in character as well. He's very, very talented, and I love Dana Carvey. Next up, Big Lobowski, we all know it, we all love it. Jeff Lobowski is a real man. Jeff Dowd inspired most of the dude's eccentricities. The dude's name and mannerisms all came from a real man, producer Jeff Dowd. He even had a rug that tied the whole room together. Love it.

Which makes me smile. Fast times at Ridgemont High. I think that a lot of people know this one, but that writer Cameron Crow graduated high school at only 15. You remember him from almost famous. So when he wanted to research fast times at 22, he went back inside, going undercover at a local school and making friends, even sticking some of them into the script. That's like never been kissed.

I had the weirdest thought. too, that's so funny this came up because I was like on a run actually the other day and I was like, maybe I think somebody brought up Fast Times on a podcast I was listening to. And I was like, man, could you imagine having not one but two movies come out about your life? That's how interesting your life is. Yeah. Two separate, completely different movies, by the way. One is about how you went undercover as a high schooler later in life. And like, that's what Fast Times is based on. And then the other ones about your, this whole other career is like a writer for, a young as fuck. journalist for rock bands in the 70s.

Like that, and that's just the, by the way, before you even turned 30, two films about your life, were, uh, Cameron Crow was hustle culture. Yeah, he's like it. But I mean, that's starting. Young, yeah. It's crazy. I support him.

I did not know that the first draft of Superbad was written when writers Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg were 13 years. I know that, which makes the title of it so much funnier, because it's like, oh, that's why it's called such a dumb thing. Yes, I have no idea. Yeah, so they wrote it when they were 13 and then revisited it like years and years later. Yeah, that's incredible. And also, like, I used to work, I used to, like, teach comedy to, like, 13-year-old boys for several years.

And they are so funny. So that, like, that is really fucking perfect. Probably, yeah, I bet that there's more freedom in that script. Yeah. Like, a lot of movie scripts. I tried to write a script when I was 13 with my friend, but it was literally just like, like our version of Reservoir Dog. That's the problem.

I think you're going to have a lot of 13-year-old boys just rewriting, like, Pulpiction. Whatever their favorite moods is. Oh, yeah. But if you think about it, Superbad is just another one of those teen movies, but it got it so right. Yeah. And it was so well written and so, like, really encapsulated a high school experience, obviously still, you know, bombastic for the screen. I did not know, but it does make a lot of sense that Michael Sarah, for,

Scott Pilgrim versus the world was the only choice for Scott Pilgrim. I mean, it seems like the movie was written for him as someone that only saw it for the first time recently, but I know that it's at the center of a lot of people's hearts that according to director Edgar Wright, he never envisioned anyone else in the role, even wanting Sarah during his arrested development years. And you know what? It made a lot of sense. Wow. That's a good for him for everybody involved, especially in my class. I've got to feel good to be like, wow, you literally wrote this movie for me. Also, Ramona Flowers is like perfect casting as well.

They did a great job with the casting. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And last but not least, which another one I think a lot of us know, but it's always fun to remember that in Back to the Future, there was a different Marty for the first six weeks of production. You can go check out the Wizard and the Bruiser episode on Back to the Future. Eric Stoltz was in the role, but the film just didn't work with him.

So Michael J. Fox was brought in and the rest is his story. Ouch, for Eric Stoltz. six weeks. Not only that, is that an initial outch? Like that's got to be said when you lose that job and then for the rest of your life, you're like, wow, everyone's favorite movie with everyone's favorite actor.

Could have been me. Also, disregard my hot takes about Back to the Future Part 2, definitely ruffled some feathers with people. It was not a cynical film that was rushed into production for a huge money grab. It was a fantastic movie

and there's no, it's not a two different movies just kind of slapped together in this weird way. Interesting. It's just a really good movie that totally isn't your favorite movie because of nostalgia.

It's just actually legitimately as good as a great award award. Everybody else is right. You're wrong holding. I have gotten tweets. I have gotten DMs. People are weirdly butt hurt about Back to the Future Part 2.

I love it. A good movie. All right. I can't, oh yay, I can't see. Excuse me. Oh, you can't see. Yay! How are you going?

I think I'm going. Blind. I don't. Oh, we can't see him. Wow, I'm a real Jamila Jamil over here. All right, let's get into this. Oh, no. Oh, I just can't even believe this is, from all the stuff we said earlier in the episode,

I can't believe this is one of the blinds. This one named singer-slash actress is all set to give an. interview describing how the illiterate reality star who is currently dealing with a lot of romantic woes stole from the singer slash actresses family. So let's two different ladies involved. Obviously, Kim Kardashian. Who did Kim K. How does she make it into the blind?

I think she was even in the celebrity conspiracy somewhere. I think we mentioned it. Whoa. Yeah, she's also invaded our blind items this week. And a one named singer slash actress, she had a fun, like, show when we were younger. She's been... Is it Keshah?

No, no, way before. She did have that reality show. Pre-catcha. She also had a one-named TV show about her, but it was a different name. Oh, no. She was everywhere. That's so Raven.

No, that's a... Is that one word? Raven. Raven. Just Raven. Oh, is it called just Raven? She could be called. That as well.

But totally like that same kind of vibe. Jed, music career first, then had a hit TV show. Hannah Montana. Sitcom. That is two words. predates this is before that. We're talking 90s. We're talking 90s. We're talking like a talk in 90s.

Or early aughts. Yeah. Even. One. Like that kind of. Brandy. Yes. Wow.

Brandy Moisha. Yes. Brandy and they choose Moesha. Wait, so wait. How does Brandy know that she stole? Brandy's momager filed a lawsuit back in 2008, alleging that Kim ran up over $120,000 in credit card charges without permission a couple years before that time back when Kim was a styling.

for Brandy. Kim was a stylist for Brandy. Kim was a stylist for Brandy at one point. I know, right? How weird is I'd had no idea. So apparently she was a stylist. Brandy. Look at that she has had a job.

She has had like a regular job. Hustle culture right there. And apparently I guess she, though she was a stylist and worked with them, she was not necessarily authorized to run up a hundred to steal our money. No. $1,000. The lawsuit was back in 2008,

but the time period, I believe was around 06 when Kim apparently allegedly did this. Wow, that's just for some reason a celebrity feud I can really get behind. Right. Like I, there's just two really interesting people. Credit card is mine. Yeah, Holden. So there you go.

All right, next one. This is fun. This actor is married and permanently A-list. All of you know who he is. He has been nominated slash won multiple Academy Awards and the same goes for Emmy Awards too. In the early days of lockdown, he found a foreign-born A-list singer slash rapper who shared his love of conspiracy. And they went from emailing once or twice a week to then every day and finally about a year ago started hooking up in person. Apparently, they also went to a couple of various retreats that focused on some of their favorite theories while also allowing them to buy crystals and smoke, quote, small batch marijuana.

I don't know why that is in there. Small batch marijuana. I mean, other than the wife he has, this sounds like a match. Of course, our singer has also got herself involved in a lot of controversies, which is why she is a former A-lister. So I'll give you a couple hints. Anything come to mind right now. Actors won a bunch of stuff.

The singer, it's more of her, she's more of a rapper. Joaquin Phoenix. Absolutely not. All right, here are the hints for the two. The guy is easy to cheer up when he's not surrounded by a bunch of zombies or being an honest detective. The woman is pretty fancy. especially when she gets that work.

Rihanna. No. You already know. Okay. Okay. I know that's the coolest in that song. That's Iggy Azalea. Okay.

Iggyzalia. There you go. Okay. The guy is easy to cheer up. Ted. Ted Jensen. Close. When he's not surrounded by a bunch of zombies or being an honest detective.

Matthew. No, not. The last one hits you over the fucking head with it to be quite honest. Is he a true detective? Woody Harrelson? Woody Harrelson, yes. Woody Harrelson and Iggy Azalia. What do you think about that love match?

I would watch that tape. I would watch that tape. It's kind of fun. Smoking weed, hanging out buying crystals. Small batch of the conspiracy convention. Yeah, no, I'll watch the tape. I want to be nowhere near the two of them, but I would love to watch the tape. I'm going to again say I can't believe another person ended up in the blinds this week after everything that has been said today.

This is the final blind. The political grift didn't go so well and the longtime roommate stole most of the money. So this A-List celebrity is desperate to earn some money and is doing so in a horny way. In a horny way online. So what would the horny way online be and who is the person? Is it only fans? And is it, we already talked about them? Is it Jamila Jamil?

Is it Kim Kay? No, no, no, but maybe connected a little bit. The political grift didn't go so well. Politics involved. A politic run, maybe. Oh, yay? No. Yay, do it an only fan?

Someone else in that crew also ran for office. Oh, Caitlin Jenner. Caitlin Jenner might be trying to do Only fans. But honestly, what was more interesting to me than that is just the story. about Jenner's roommate, 24-year-old Sophia Hutchins. They're in a bit of an odd situation. Hutchins has claimed,

well, we are girlfriends, but we're not like girlfriends, so, you know what I mean? I was in a situation like this, by the way, in college, where someone ended up moving in with me and, you know, but we're just friends. She just got to live for free with me.

Like, we're in a relationship and we snuggle when we go to bed at night, but we're just friends. And I love that about us. So anyways, yeah, so Sophia's definitely a pull of this kind of shit. But we're not like girlfriends? But we're not like girlfriends. You know what I mean? We're very good friends.

To me, Caitlin is like a parent figure, but also now we have business together. So, you know, we work together. So it's interesting. It really is family. That's the best way to describe it. It was never sexual. Sounds rough and messy. Jenner recently got just one percent of the vote after her run for governor of California.

Well, apparently she was also. out of the new Kardashian show, but I did not know she was kept out of the nine-figure deal for the Kardashian show. So maybe she's... Nine figures. Wow. What?

That's insane. That's so stupid, dude. Why are people, stop watching it? And we guys, we need to stop talking about it. I get that. We're talking about it. We're just as guilty. We've been talking about it all episodes.

They figured it out. They whizzled their way into everything, the blinds, all of it. And I get that that we need to stop. But please do your part and not watch this show. I get, we cannot express this. And do not support Caitlin Jenner politically because she's a monster.

Even and particularly when it comes to trans people and politics. Weirdly so, right? Weirdly so. Kind of pulling up the ladder behind her. She is the spokesperson. None of y'all asked for it. It's just so annoying to see it. Everyone is like, please stop.

Stop. So, yeah, I mean, I guess it's a good for her. She gets an only fan. You know, whatever, whatever you got to do, Caitlin Jenner. Stop trying to be a political figure. That's, do sex. That's fine. I have no problem with that.

Yeah, I was like, whatever, whatever, only fans, man, does Sophia Hutchins remind me of an ex in mind. Yeah. We eventually did take it to the next level, but I think it was under the pretense of. You either have to probably leave this apartment or pay for your Brits. somewhere or we have to be in a relationship. And that, in hindsight, wasn't the most, you know, healthy situation. I would say I was manipulated a little bit.

Ah, gotcha. Well, you know, you live, you learn. There you go. Get it out early. Get it out in college so you can find something healthy later on. Hell yeah. Look at us growing up. I guess this is growing up.

And this has been your episode. You can see again? Is that two Blinklin 882 references in this? Yes, it was. Thank you. I can see that I was taking. advantage of for my apartment,

free apartment in college. Just glad you can see it. As long as you can see it now, that means that we have reached the end of our episode. And thank you guys so much for joining us on this week's episode of page seven.

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And that speaks to how fun the Discord is. Oh, yeah. It is so much fun. And yeah, so check us out on that. And yeah, I don't know. Who's left? I'm next. My name is MJ and I'm MJKLKat on Instagram.

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And you know who else makes you want to smile forever? Shibi Woo! She be woo! is a part of our amazing Twitch community and all of my happiest of birthdays goes out to you, baby! Shibi Wu says, I'm giving myself a shout out this week because fuck, life sucks right now. But guess what, Bucco?

I still get out of bed every morning and I'm doing the best with what I got. So choke on that universe. Hell yeah, I love this energy. Shibi Wu says, I turned 30 last month and it sucked to not feel celebrated. But here we go again. I'm a celebrate myself.

because I freaking deserve it. Your podcasts and Twitch community have gotten me through some rough times so I can't thank you enough for being who you are and doing what you're doing. Much love to you all and much love right back at you, Shee, Bewu.

I want to celebrate you and I hope that you can feel my hug around you right now. And I've got more hugs going out for Hecks from Heather and Alex. Heather and Alex say, this is a joint shout-out. Yeah, smoke,

if you got them, dedicated to our amazing friend, Hex. Our friendship family simply wouldn't be the same without them. They even submitted a shout out to one of us that got red on the air, and it was truly the sweetest and most thoughtful gift possible. Hex, like the rest of us, is a huge fan, and we hope to bring them some of the joy that they constantly give to us. We even have a dedicated group chat specifically about page 7 and our other favorite LPN shows.

That makes me so happy. Hex has been having a hard time lately, but they are keeping their head up and we are so insanely proud of them. They are strong, kind, and a total fucking badass. And we simply couldn't imagine life without them. We love you so much, Hex, Heather and Alex. I love your friend family so much. I don't know what the hell I would do without my friend family. You guys listen to all of us all the time, but we really are just as close as you would imagine. I see we all talk to each other rooms every single day and there ain't nothing like a friend family and I'm so glad that you guys have each other. Now, the next shout out goes out to both Emma and Justin. Thank you so much for

writing in Emma and sharing your story and thank you for receiving my share back to you. Love you so much, Emma. Emma says, happy pie day and happy birthday to Justin, who should have been 31 and woken up next to me. He used to joke we were soulmates because my middle name is pie and he was born. on Pi Day. He absolutely hated his birthday, and be honest, life in general. There was something about me that made him feel safe, though. Probably that I've been momming people my whole life, and he needed a mom his whole life, and he laughed at every joke I made, which is my favorite quality in a person. On our first date, I went to see his band play, and then we ate some acid. We went for a walk to watch the trees breathe, and I noticed these fucking amazing-looking blackberries.

After pointing them out, he reached dangerously up and into the bush where he plucked one berry. He returned to me and said, here, it was in a perfect spot to get all of the sun and none of the hobo pee. That was quite literally the best blackberry I've ever eaten. He was my little spoon, my sweet and savory sample cup, my very favorite person. Suicide trigger warning for anyone like me who is going to cry through this. He broke my heart so bad when he decided he did. didn't want to live anymore. But the brain damage he'd suffered was to the right frontal lobe, which is the part of the brain that's most useful for recovery. Life is so lifey. Send my dude some

birthday wishes up on that rainbow bridge in the sky, eh? I love you, Emma. I gotta take a break from the shoutouts for a second and compose myself. Love you guys so much. And in the opposite way, now for something completely different, I want to say thank you. I chose you. I chose you. you to end this on purpose, Rachel Grace. Thank you so much for writing this in. I'm not sure if I'm going to find a way to fit the subject line into this email, but it sounds too funny to pass up. By the way, the subject line was Winter Crocs and Wisconsin Cox. They say, I live in Northern Wisconsin and I will die in my fuzzy winter crocs. They keep my feet warm and comfy. To combat snow, I simply pick up my feet when I walk. Controversial, I know. If it's a real wet and snowy,

you move it to sport mode and flip the back strap. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. If your socks get wet, the airflow obviously airs out your everything. Sox, feet, hair, pussy, you name it. It's aired out. Calling on anyone who loves comfort and a breeze, whip out the winter crocs and flip up your Wisconsin cox. It's go time. You did it, Rachel Grace.

Sticking the landing. Thank you for being you and encouraging us to be us. Thank you so much Rachel Grace for writing in and giving me a laugh. I appreciate you guys so much and I love our community. And come hang out over on twitch.tv.TV forward slash, oh, no, it's Jackie. And further, your community involvement. We love talking to each other and it's, God, it's my favorite place to hang out. Love you guys so much and thank you so much for listening.

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