Page 7 - Ep. 463: ACAiPhone

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

This week we're gossin' 'bout ALL that drama behind Don't Worry Darling (including the LaBeouf firing, Florence Pugh, and a full breakdown, including theories, behind the recent #SpitGate), if the length of film festival standing ovations are truly necessary, and in celeb conspiracy corner;  Did Stephanie Meyer write a new Anti-Mormon novel in SECRET!? The List, BLinddz and SHOUTZ Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Welcome to page seven. We may as well call it. Yes, we worry darling episode. I am. We are going to be talking so much about don't worry, darling. It is just been my everything. It's darling. I'm sorry, you mean spitgate, which is what the hell is calling it now.

Right, I forgot spitgate. So funny. That's just one corner of this. That's a facet. A bunch of other funny stuff that already happened. That's the best. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Like, everything is funny.

She was served her custody papers on stage. This movie is like both cursed and completely blessed with a bunch of weird bullshit or surrounding it. Because of all accounts, it's a very mediocre film. Mediocrine best. Everything I've read. A solid amount of people are going to watch now that would never have watched it because of how ridiculous the circus has been

around the making of it. It's a real movie, movie, movie. It's a movie that makes you want to go to the movies. It's a theater film that you see in the film theater. So let's definitely talk about the Harry Styles Quote. That's the Harry Styles Quote in an interview. I mean, these poor guys, they have to do these press interviews all fucking day long.

I'd probably get like that too after a while. But yes, he definitely at the same time was Yeah, talking about how a movie is a movie As an answer to an interview question Also, I was screaming about this to Jackie It was like everybody's like, what I wouldn't give To spend one hour with Harry Styles You know, gallivanting around talking about

No, all these pop guys or whatever They're all boring and vapid and have nothing And this is a great example of the thought process Of these guys, they leave it all on the stage. You get it all up there. You're going to enjoy that's where they're the best. He's been famous since he's like 14 years old. We also have to keep that in mind.

Taylor Swift wrote a song about him called Style. We should also keep that in mind. Oh, yeah, we should really get that. A lot to keep in mind. Are you both around a lot of styles haters? Because the last, I feel like I've been in a vortex the last four to five days. Because every time I bring it up, everyone's like, fuck Harry Styles. Yeah, Harry Styles is an asshole.

I'm like, where is this coming from? Yeah, I thought, this is what, another thing that's so fun about this to me is, that I thought that we all love Terry Stiles. I still do have zero negative things to say about the man. I also love the idea that Chris Pine hates him, if that's true. It's just, I actually thought

he was a really interesting person because of his public persona. It turns out maybe he's not because when he speaks, he says things like, if I can read the exact quote, my favorite thing about the movie is it feels like a movie.

It feels like a real go to the theater film movie that, you know, kind of reason why you go to the screen. I love that, and MJ also sent us a tweet, overlaying that quote, over the Nicole Kidman AMC ad, which I really feel, which yes, we are going to talk about the fact that there is a sequel coming out to the Nicole Kidman AMC commercial.

Like, you know what, I'm just throw it out there as a quick sidebar. Upset about it. They're going to do it. I feel like they're not going to, like the first one was made with such wholesome intentions. That the fact that it was made fun of that now we feel like they're going to like wink at it. They're going to wink at it instead. And I'm like, okay. I don't want her to be cheeky.

I don't want her to be chikka at the theater films. I want to see her trying to be real. Right. Being genuine about it. Yes, that's the fun of it. But anyway, sorry, that was a sidebar. Because we're here to talk about don't worry, darling. And I like Harry Styles.

I like him too. First of all, my biggest thought right out of the gate, even just the way they're all dressed in all of these little scenes. and things. Wes Anderson, make a movie about this thing. Yes.

Make a movie about the, the trying to put this movie out. They already look like Wes Anderson characters. All of the plot lines

are very Wes Anderson-y. Like, just get, just as a way to like make fun of the movie business, make a movie called like

putting out, don't worry, darling. You know what I mean? Self-reference the whole thing. Get incredibly meta with it. I just, I need that.

Because what a hilarious situation, it's almost like the plot, I don't want to say about Woody Allen film, is he's, you know, he's Dunzo, right? But it's like a plot of a kind of comedy like that, where it's like, in trying to put this incredibly mediocre movie out, this shit show just magically

happens based on a bunch of weird things going on. And because of all of those things, now everyone goes to see, now everyone's with bated breath ready to watch this incredibly who gives a fuck about it film. And I just think that's brilliant. And I think everyone, I think the even more fun thing about it is that everyone's going to go see it, but now everyone also is going to think it sucks and everyone, like everyone's going in,

assuming it sucks and everyone's going in mad at least one of the people like involved, furiously mad. There's people who are obviously furious at Olivia Wilde. There's people who are furious at Harry Styles. Again, I can't bring myself. Where's your fury? Where is your fury live? This is why this is so nice for me.

I have no fury. I mean, I think probably Olivia Wilde. It seems like she was the shittiest one of all, but I also have no investment in it. I have zero feelings. It's so nice. I just feel like it doesn't connect to any, as far as I know, doesn't seem to connect to any like deeper, more structural things.

Again, I've seen some people be like, oh, it's misogynist to say that Olivia Wilde shouldn't fuck around with her young co-star. I'm not particularly, he, not at not remotely, right. That's not what this is about, though. Is nothing about her fucking Harry Styles. You know what it is so much more. Exactly. You know what it is?

And I think we do need to give people a play-by-play who, like, aren't aware of what's bad. Oh, yeah, we're going to start from the beginning. You know what this is? This is, like, akin to, like, okay, I know this is a little more detail, but you're a theater school in college and these other kids in your theater school that you actually super don't give a fuck about, they're all like in doing this play together and you just start hearing about all this drama that's going on during this play production. Yes.

And you were just like, ooh, we. Bate it, Brett? Totally. I don't give a fuck about any of this shit at the end of the day. And so this is just pure fun. Yes. This is just pure fucking drama cocaine. Zero stakes. Everyone is famous.

Everyone is rich. Everyone is fine. Right? Like, oh yeah. No one's physically hurt. Yes. Like the worst person involved is Shihil above. And even he's like, he's being kept away from people who he needs to be kept away from.

There's just no stakes other than everybody hates each other and everybody's famous and beautiful. Love it. And it's just perfect. Like, it is the best celebrity controversy. And also, it's great because there's a lot of mystery. There's like as a pruder film with the spit that you can keep watching over and over, a lot like a JFK assassination. You can, you know, you can, there's all the different camps.

You can just look at endless pictures of Chris Pine looking miserable. And we, of course, have no idea what he's actually. actually thinking, but we can think, we think, we know what he's thinking. It's got everything. It really does, because it really does, it starts with Shia LeBuff. It starts with him being cast in this Olivia Wilde directed movie, don't worry, darling. And the claim, so, like, so already was out the gate a problem is that Olivia Wilde says that he quit and he claims that he was fired because there wasn't enough time for a rehearsal. And Olivia Wilde refuses to go back and change her story.

But on top of that, where this all really began is the fact that Shilabov claims that Olivia Wilde sent him a video talking about him leaving the film, which if she didn't do that, I don't know how he got this footage, of her essentially. talking about how difficult it is to work with Ms. Flo, who is Florence Pugh, who is also universally beloved. Belved. Put Chris Pine universally beloved. Florence Pue, universally beloved. Shailabuff, universally hated. Olivia Wilde, extremely controversial.

So again, you get all the elements you need. Somebody, everyone's going to rally around Florence Pugh. And Harry Seiles, the biggest pop star, like the hottest ticket right now on the planet. Yeah. Crazy. And so originally, Shio Buffett. And Taylor Swift, I'm sorry, real quick. Don't you bring her up in this?

She has nothing to do with this. Midnights, October 21st, ladies gentlemen. And how dare you not include the article about the four different vinyl variants coming out that you can pre-order right now for midnight? You can bring up Jason Sadecas because Jason Sadekis is a part of this. I was just about to say, isn't he having a fucking field day right now? Is he not just having the best time? Talking about someone pulling the pocket. popcorn out, man.

I, it is so, it's so thick and so deep because then essentially when Shilabuk leaves, she casts Harry Styles. Now at this point, she was still, I believe, still married to Jason Siddakis, or at least they were not publicly separated yet. And throughout the process of the beginning of this movie, so Harry Styles, who also does not have a lot of, you know, acting experience, obviously, put into a very serious role. and Olivia Wilde starts fucking him. And of course it is murky of when they begin fucking.

What we do know is that Jason Sadeke is on purpose, which after we talked about this on the episode, when he served, he got her served while she was on stage in front of other people at a convention. And I remember us talking about it being like, oh, he must not have wanted that to happen, right? He did. He did want that to happen.

So I'm going to assume that Jason Zadakis was very, very angry at Olivia Wilde for whatever was going on between them. How did you confirm that? There's been a lot of more speculation coming out about, of course, it's all like close sources. But there's a lot more people saying that that's what happened than not saying that's what happened. And then obviously if you're going to do that and it's like they were together, got

together on the movie, I mean, it's like, man, that is some. Batman villain level fucking shit to do. But yeah, it's definitely like the riddler being like, yes, this led to this. This movie led to this. The relationship, the fucking, and Florence Pugh is good friends with Jason Siddakis. And so she has a stake in being mad at Olivia Wilde for fucking around

on him is at least part of the rumors swirling. And when Shia LaBuff was cast, he had not yet, the allegations against him for abuse by FKA Twigs had not yet happened. Right. But also, he was already known to be a total train wreck. So it's like a strange casting choice from Olivia Wilde. But I feel like that's a piece of the rolling controversy is that he was, this all started like March 2020, by the way, like the beginning of the pandemic.

Yeah. Like all these little bits of news coming. And then so it just, I feel like just in terms of when you're making your little murder board, remember that Shilababov, known asshole, but not yet known to be this, these horrible allegations of abuse against FCAID. Right, you can draw the little red devil horns on his picture all you want, but you know, you definitely need to denote no FKA twigs to wrong. Until December of that year, yeah. Underneath. And they will say, if you want to write that in blood, write that in blood or whatever you need to do for your murderboard. The Siddiquest thing is kind of stamped in because this was at the same time that Olivia Wilde was trying to move their children permanently to relocate them to London where Harry Stiles lives. So this was like amidst a trial. between the two of them that like a petition got dismissed because Sadecas wanted the kids to live in New York where he lives and he that got dismissed. So this so that's why it is pointing more towards the fact that like no he wanted to publicly embarrass her. He was pissed the fuck off about what was going on.

I don't think that that's nice, but I've also never been in that situation before. So Lord knows how petty I could be. It's a classic way to be petty. It's a classic way to be petty. papers delivered while on stage. I mean, that is just such a fun. Wes Anderson, man. It is right there for you, my friend.

And include all the kissing. I want to see all the kissing that happens. Maybe Michelle Gondry would be a good pick for this as well. I need to start click-clack and I need to get this script together. Yeah, get the tip-time, bro. For sure. Let's cast it. Let us cast.

This is all, like, even before all of the stuff this weekend happened. So while on, like, so, On set, there was a lot of problems, apparently. And we had talked about this a couple of weeks ago, Florence Pugh even being upset with how the movie is being pitched here in the United States as well, where she's like, it's not just a sex movie. And I feel like it's just being portrayed as this movie. I'm going to go ahead and jump into her brain.

And I think that she thinks she's above all of this, which I'm not saying she's not. Yeah. I think that... It's messy. It's the definition of messy. This is so messy. And like she, I feel like has like a pretty good body of work behind her. And I think that she just thought this was going to be like a high quality film.

And I think it seems that there's been a slow realization on her part that the film is terrible. All of the clips that have been like leaked of Harry Styles as acting are not good. And yeah, you just look at his face. Look at the fit. That's all you need. His accent is like changing within sentences, you know. And so I think that Florence Pugh kind of grand. I gradually realized that it's not a good film

and that I think, right, my impression about her quotes about, she says when it's reduced to your sex scenes or to watch the most famous man in the world go down on someone, it's not why we do it, it's not why I'm in the industry. So I think that she's kind of like, I thought I was signing on for like this good, interesting film. And remember, the trailer made it look like a good interesting film. And then it's just kind of turned into like,

oh, it's just like a Harry Stiles vehicle now and he can't even act. So I think it's just like, we're seeing her disillusionment with the project, live in real time, you know? Well, and, you know, I mean, allegedly, I guess we'll say, when it comes down to someone potentially, and maybe just even in just in Florence's viewpoint, kind of fucked their way into the role a little bit there,

you know what I mean? And it wasn't really based on. They weren't seen holding hands until January, and he was signed on in November. Okay, so there's no way there was an overlap. I think we've all been a part of a working situation where someone had some rose-colored fucking glasses towards someone else and that's why they ended up in some kind of position they should not have been.

You know what I mean? And how fucking much everyone around that hates that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yes. So there's that. Also, I don't know enough about the-

Again, college theater drama. It is like screams. That's what it's screams towards. That's why it's so funny because we're juxtaposing something that would have happened to me in college that I would look back on and laugh at years later as immature bulls. shit, but it's happening to very rich, fancy, high-faluting people and a very, like, big high-faluting, you know, film festival and this, and this movie is literally called, don't worry, darling?

Like, it is, could it not be more just hilarious to juxtapose Wes Anderson? And it's, it's great, too, because as much as it is low stakes, it is, like, also, I feel like, on the interpersonal level for the actors, it is, like, high stakes, right? Like, there was the allegations of a huge pay disparity between, Florence Pugh and Harry Stiles, which Olivia Wilde has denied. So obviously that is really high stakes. There's also, I don't know enough

about the plot of the film, but my impression is that Florence Pugh, like, when she's talking about the sex scenes, that, like, they're being talked about, like, oh, it's so hot and sexy, but actually the whole film is about, like, violence and coercion. And so I think that, like, there's, like, some... I think she gets eaten out a lot.

If I'm thinking of what they're putting down, it seems like she gets eaten out a lot. Yeah, what... It should have changed the name to, oh, what a medal. and sugar. Yeah, wow, Harry Styles Joe Golden. But we're still, we're still just laying the concrete here for the, for the house that was built this weekend. Yeah. So should we go get into, so last week was the video, Shia LaBuff leaking this video of Olivia Wilde saying, oh, if we can just get Miss Flo on board, I think we can still make this project work. Can we just also say that if

you're going to lie about doing something, don't record yourself doing something. Yeah. Girl, come on. Think about what video messages you have sent to people. Girl, come on. And so, yeah, she, like, is, Olivia Wilde seems to have, like,

absolutely been caught in a lie where she was like, oh, I fired Childabuff to protect the actors. And Chylobuff is like, sorry, but, like, I know I'm an asshole, but that's not actually why you fired me. Here's this video proving it. So already, last week, people were like, wow, what drama? and then we get to Venice.

Or do we because I mean, we do know that Florence ain't going to show up on time? Right. Oh, she ain't going to show up on time. And then she comes in. So she shows up with her grandmother, right? Because we all know that Florence Pugh recently broke up with Zach Braff, or I don't know which way it went, but they have broken up. So she brings her grandmother with her and just wrote like, I'm here, period.

when she shows up to Venice late. Also, everybody in the film, this is a film industry thing, so you guys might not know this listener. Oh my God, please explain it to us, Holden. The greatest insult you can give to a red carpet premiere

is bringing an old. Oh, yeah, especially someone you respect. And so bringing the grandmother, it is bringing a grandmother or grandfather is the classic fuck you Hollywood move. And she said she was like, I'm not going to do press. I'm not going to be there for the press,

for the Venice presser. And everyone was like, ooh, is this because you hate the film? And she was just like, no, it's just because my flight's not getting there on time. Which is like, well, wouldn't you just move, wouldn't you just fly at a different flight to get there on time? So she is currently filming Dune Part 2. Yes, Duke, too. She is on set for Dune. But one thing that she did say on the red carpet is when she was asked by an Italian journalist, she said, this is what Florence Pugh said.

I think it's very, very inspiring to see a woman push back and say. know and question everything. It's very exciting to see a woman do that on and off camera. Bum, bum, bum. So everyone dissected it, dissected it. What does it mean? Oh my God, was she pushing back on set? Is that why Olivia Wilde doesn't like her?

They're just crafting such an amazing, just these little morsels for people to glom onto, especially over a holiday weekend when nothing else is happening. It's perfect. It's such a perfect storm for a C-minus, allegedly, movie that we're all going to see now. Right. It's brilliant. I don't want to see it, too. I'm mad about seeing it.

I actively don't wish to view the film. I don't even know when I'm going to see it. I haven't been to the movie since the pandemic started, but I think this is going to be my first one. Yeah. Oh, you've got to get on that stubs, MJ. I got to go. I just be like, well, that was completely mediocre. All right, let's get to, are we getting to Spitgate?

Well, yeah, so let's enter Chris Pine. Enter Chris Pine. Before we... Gotta get into the situation. Before we even get to Spitgate, there is just, the internet is just having a fantastic time watching how miserable Chris Pine looks at all of these press events. He really does. And also all of the memes that are talking about, like, where did he, like, he looks

like the first female European prime minister. Like, it's like, I've been seeing all those kind of memes. People being like, oh, the beautiful, the, like, middle of the middle. age beautiful lesbian that was at the Venice Film Festival turns out to be Chris Pime. I actually, it's like Chris Pine like is very arguably a very attractive man. It's so

hard to try it in like nag Chris Pine. But that's why it's so fun because he's like... That's why it's funny. And he doesn't have anything, any bad badmins about him as far as we know. In fact, I think he's like a good man and so he's wearing goodmans. He's a goodman. He's wearing wide leg

red pants and everyone is just mocking him. And there's all these shots of him sitting at the pressors, like, looking extremely bored. And then, right, before we get to Spitgate, there is the Theatheum Gate, which is when they're sitting, him and Harry Thassel is sitting next to each other. Chris Pine is also, like, I can't, I don't have his credentials in front of me, but he's like, he's an extremely accomplished, intelligent person who has, like, studied literature and film. And, like, he, like, is a very smart man. And Harry Styles is next to him going, it's, it's. a real film you go to the theater.

It's a theater film. It's a real movie movie. The real thing about this movie is it is a full-on movie. There's nothing televisioning about it. It's a movie. It's absolutely a movie. And also, every picture is so, like, fine-tuned because Olivia Wilde made sure she's never next to Harry Styles.

She also makes sure the things she is never next to Florence Pugh. As far away as possible. They're always so right. So when they're sitting in a row, they're always apart from each other. My favorite tweet about that was whoever arranged the seating arrangement has planned a wedding for divorced parents. It's like this very careful seating chart where Florence Pee and Olivia Wilde are as far apart from each other as possible. Chris Pines in the middle. And right, it seems like everybody loves Chris Pine, but he can't help.

Again, we have no idea what he's thinking. Maybe he thinks Harry Stiles is great and fun. But based on his facial expressions, you can't help but feel like he thinks that Harry Stiles is an absolute. absolute idiot when he's saying this theater film quote. It's like I'm watching an episode of The Office. It is perfect deadpan. Like it's all communicated in the subtlest of eye movements. But yeah, it is just so clearly he's just like, the fuck is this guy talking about.

I will say, again, in defense of Harry, I will only just say that these guys have to sit through this awful. They do it for 12, 14 hours. People talking about just that's the worst part of the business. They have to, yeah, answer the most boring. same questions over and over again. But that is so funny that the thing with the movie is that it's a movie is a very funny thing to say. And so we get to make fun and I'm fine with that as well. And I think that part of it why it's funny is because Harry Styles is like he is this really interesting public figure.

He's like the first man to wear a dress on a magazine cover, right? So I've always been like, wow, he's like, and I think, I still believe this. Like he's like a, you know, brave and interesting. It's not like shouldn't be that brave. but he, like, makes cool, interesting choices that are different. I do have to say, though, there's no way he's the first ever man to wear a dress on a magazine cover. Is that actually true? Maybe it was just that magazine?

Was it vulgar vanity? I mean, it was a huge deal, though, right, Jackie? Am I wrong? Yes, it was a huge deal. It was a big deal. I was like, there's got to be in history a magazine, even, like, you know, something. Maybe I'm misremembering whatever milestone that was. It was something where it was like a man in a dress on Vogue, on American Vogue.

He was the first man to ever grace the cover of American Vogue alone wearing a full-length dress. A lot of stipulations. Okay, all right. So let's get back from how exactly how groundbreaking he is with gender or whatever. But again, what a message. Seems like an interesting, as far as pop stores go, I've always thought he's like, you know, really great. and fun and interesting. So to hear him open his mouth and say this incredibly innocuous thing about a theater film,

that's just a fun. Again, it has not changed my feelings about him at all. I still think he's cute and would kiss him. And I think he's an interesting person the way he does gender. But that extremely dumb, boring quote is just funny coming from such a beautiful man. It just reconfirms. I remember I had the same revelation where I was watching raw footage of like Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in like black.

and white in the 70s, height of their success with Rolling Stones on tour, and they're in this hotel room, and it's just footage of them, like, dicking around, and it just hit me. I was like, oh, yeah, these guys are, like, really boring off-stage. Like, off-stage, there's nothing. That's all, that is it. It's the thing they do on stage, so it's just always going to be a letdown

to hang out. I mean, I think that kind of goes for anybody. Like, who's going to be, I mean, Truman Capote, maybe he's someone who'd be like, God, I'd love to hang out with him. And then you hang out with him. We're like, wow, we talked all night. We drank cocktails. But for the most part, especially musicians, you sit down with them and it is just borough, snorro, you know what I mean? Because they leave it all over the end.

And you're like, can you just talk to me for a minute? We just have a conversation. I don't know. There's a boy in the tree. I don't care about the boy in the tree. I want to fucking love about some stuff. Which is what I imagine they all sound like. Or maybe you just.

want to get close to him and spit on him, which is what Harry Styles did. There you go. I don't think that's true, but go on. No, I don't think the three of us have not shared our feelings with each other about Spitgate. So we are all about to find out along with the listeners what we

all believe and whether we are in agreement. MJ, I communicate with you sometimes passively through Twitter. And I too witnessed your retweet of the explanation that the man merely forgot where his glasses were and realized, oh, they're right down here in my crotchdal area.

And so he said, oh, got my glasses again. It's weirdly timed with the way Harry Styles walked in. I mean, my big reason for that, by the way, is Olivia Wilde is sitting right next to them. She makes no change in her, like, demeanor or anything after this quote unquote spit apparently happened. You know what I mean? I think she's the real proof that. that like, if he spat on her, she would be like, what the fuck?

My movie, you know what I mean? Oh, fuck! This isn't my movie! My movie! She would explode and turn into a transformer. So Holden believes, Holden believes the only convincing counter theory I have seen, which is that

Harry Stiles didn't spit on Chris Pine because in the video, it looks like Harry Styles bends down and spits on Chris Pine. spine has a reaction where he's clapping. He stops. He freezes like, what the fuck? Looks down at his hands. Looks extremely annoyed. And then does like a, okay kind of face.

And then starts chatting with Harry Styles. So the counter theory is he didn't look down at his hands and think, what the fuck did Harry Styles just spit on me? He looks down and, in fact, at his glasses that are in his lap or between his legs and thinks, oh, there's my glasses. I don't buy this theory at all. You don't buy that theory? I completely buy that theory.

That seems like completely what it is. You don't make that face. You don't look pissed when you find your glasses in between your legs. And there's another film, there's another video from a different angle where he just put his glasses there like a second ago. So he wasn't looking for his glasses all day. I didn't know about the other angle. I didn't know about this a brooder film.

Oh, there's many angles. But then also at the same time, Harry Styles has his sunglasses in his hands. So I do wonder if it was like a knowing look of like, we said we were both going to wear our sunglasses inside or something like that. And then they both put there and then they both take out their sunglasses. You, I have stared at this video too many times. Okay. At first I was like, oh, he didn't spit.

And then I was like, but did he? Like I became the internet. Yes. As I stared at his mouth and I was like, I see nothing coming out of his mouth. Yeah. Do we have any evidence? I mean, you can slow video down. You can zoom in, you know, all these things.

He does this. He does like a little... Okay, so I... My theory. Grimising? You're like, doing like an orangutan. A lot. A lot of toothy thing. Yeah, like an orangutan.

You know how orangutans can just kind of like casually spit, like, and then they just... So my theory is that Harry Styles, although I guess there's documentation about Harry Stiles feeling really negatively about spitting. So this theory might not want. work. But I think it was an accidental spit. I think that maybe he thought he was going to spit not on Chris Pine. And he just did like a casual little like, oh, I've just got to do a little spit and it landed on Chris Pine. That's my hearing. I got to do a little spit in a movie theater while people are clapping and there's cameras on you. Oh, you mean during the five

minute standing ovation for this C-minus movie? I can't with this ovation bullshit. It is so stupid. The, I hate pageantry like this. And we know that because, of course, I've been screaming about synchronized dances and stuff. I hate social obligated. You know what? It reminds me of how you have to clap if you're doing the presidential address or whatever it is. You have to stand up and clap. I fucking hate the state of a union clapping.

It is so fake and phony and full of shit. And this awards thing completely reminds me of that where it's like, well, they got a six minutes standing ovation. And it's like old school colonial page. Legendry, bullshit. And it's so fake and it means nothing and it doesn't mean anything about the quality of the movie. And I hate that now that it's like, it got a 10 minute standing. There must be a really good movie. It got 10 minutes standing ovation.

But wait, did the spit is, because I hadn't placed the spit in the timeline. Is that, does the spit happen right after the standing ovation? No, they're sitting down. They're sitting down to the beginning of the movie. Before the movie. Yeah, because Chris. Pine is already sitting down with his glasses in between his legs. Harry Stiles is coming over to get his seat.

And Jackie, what do you think? I feel like something cheeky is about, but I don't know what it is. But I think it's cheeky. And I think that they have some sort of cheeky thing. We're like, we're never going to know what it was that was being communicated between the two of them. Because we're all, we've all been friends for 100 million years. Can we say a lot with just a look? in front of a bunch of people.

Maybe it was because, like, Florence Pugh was right behind Harry Styles. Maybe it had something to do with that. Maybe it had just, like, some sort of communication. He didn't spit. I've watched it a million times. I've stared at his lips from both of the angles, and he doesn't spit.

Don't you think it's possible there was an accidental... What causes Chris Pine to stop clapping, look down in his hands with what looks to be extreme annoying? and then quickly recover to like politely chat with Harry Styles. What could, what is the counter theory? You know? Maybe he's got a bunch of ketchup in his pockets and it all squeezed out. Yeah.

And he's wearing those light pants and he goes, oh no, my ketchup pockets. Maybe it's ketchup pockets a clock and we had no idea. Where was Harry coming from? Like he comes from off camera, right? He is being directed towards his seat by an usher. And he's being pointed towards a seat. I'm watching it right now, and he walks through people. He goes over to take a seat, and he's unbuttoning his jacket to sit down as he leans over to sit.

And that's what, or is it the fact that, like, maybe they've had a cheeky discussion about not opening up your button on your jacket when you sit down. Maybe it's cheating. And because maybe his button was closed. Maybe he thought someone else was going to sit there. And then he was like, oh, fuck this guy again. He was the movie man, movie quote, man. And that would make sense, like, except that something happens to Chris Pine's feelings in that moment. Like, there's, it could be a realization.

Oh, there's my glasses. Again, I think that's, I don't know why that's so funny. He just put his glasses down, though. He just put his glasses down. I don't think it's the glasses either. This is the most. I've got something. It's the edibles theory.

They both, I mean, come on, you're going to have to sit through this, you don't even want to watch this meeting. You knew it was bad the first time you made it. So, of course, what are you going to do? You're going to put on. your best sunglasses and you're going to load up on edibles. Yeah. And sometimes edibles lead towards weird moments, body rushes, things like that, where you just, like, your whole

core just, like, get quits on you for two seconds, and then you kind of jump started again. Maybe he was just sitting there. Harry Styles... I can't believe that you think it has to do with the butt. You think the name... I think it's a button. Because he unbuttons it. He unbuns it. He sits down. He buttons it again.

I don't know... That's just what a gentleman does with a blazer, Jackie. I'm asking both of you. What do you do? Is there Is there some sort of lore with the buttons on the jacket? Yes. Yes. I only know this because when I got, I've become a custom suit type of guy. Yeah, you have.

And when you get a custom suit, they'll tell you like, oh, you know, this, this, when you're walking around, you need the top two buttons on button. And then when you sit down, there's all sorts of. Unbutton the bottom button. Conventions around your buttons. And so I think that you're, if you're. The other buttons buttoned? If, if you've knowingly disappointed someone, if you've knowingly disappointed someone, if you've

knowingly disappointed. as someone, you have to leave the top button on button. There's a ton of things. Oh, the disappointment button. It's a lot of pageantry. I thought the disappointment button was in my groin. Come on. It might be that.

If you had tuna for lunch, you have to leave both buttons button even when you sit down. Oh, no, that's so much to remember. Is it possible that he whispered something that he said like, shit head? You little bitch. I've stared at his lips. His lips aren't moving.

Unless he's got ventriloquism gifts, which that's awesome. You don't think he does like a little, just like a little Hakalugi? I think that you can see he just looks like a little hawk, like a little hawk. Just a little hawk. Just a little hawk. Watch it look for the tiniest. Again, I'm watching it. Not like a spittoon. Not like a spittoon. You know how really casual spitter's. You know how really casual spitter's can just spit and it's like nothing? I'm not a spit head. I'm not a spit head. And one of my Twitter replies said that, so that, so it sounds like he's not a casual. How do we know that? You keep talking about how Harry Styles has been vocal about not liking spitting. That's an insane take. Well, if I Google it now, I'm not going to be able to find it because all the takes are going to be about this spin. We need to find articles from before this week about how Harry style.

Who are these people on Twitter? I be like, Harry definitely is talking about how he specifically hates spitting before. I assume there are page 7 listener who replied to be like, Harry Styles hates spitting, so why would he do this? If it's you who replied and said that you have some knowledge about Harry Styles as feelings about spitting, please email us at page 7 at gmail.com and page 7 podcast. Page 7thodcast, oh my God, I can't even. Page 7podcast at gibble.com and provide us the receipts. I believe you, Twitter follower. I would like some proof so that I'm not talking out of my ass here about Harry

Stiles' feelings about spitting. If we know that he's a prolific spitter, that is relevant to whether or not he spit on Chris Pine. We need to know, is he known for spitting? Is he known for hating spitting? This is important. It's character witness stuff, you know? Yeah, yeah. According to body language.

Experts, he didn't spit. So that there's no way Chris Pine, if he didn't know he was going to be spit on, would be able to react that subtly by being spat at his feet. But that I don't know if I agree with. Oh, all right. So I did a custom range Google search, by the way,

from 2021 and before. Oh, look at you. Oops up. Harry Styles criticized for spitting on stage during U.S. Tour. Harry Styles called out for spitting water on stage to it on tour amidst COVID. Oh, you mean when he's doing the whale, you mean? I'm reading another thing. No, not talking. No, I'm not talking about predisposed to the move as the whale, where he takes a gulp of water and spits it at the crowd and he calls it the whale.

Interesting. He was whaling on Chris Pye. Hey, riddle me this. How would a man who has been vocal about being against spinning go on stage during COVID, slush a bunch of water in his mouth, and spit it all over his fans, the ones he loves the most. And Jay, you're out of order. This whole court's out of order. I was trying to honor my Twitter replies, Holden.

Somebody said Harry Stiles doesn't like spinning. And so to me, I hold that in the constellation of what might be known. I don't know if I think that. it's possible that Harry Stiles is such a casual spitter. He didn't even know he was spitting on Chris Pine, but something happened to Chris Pine's hands. I don't think he spit on his feet.

I think he spit on his hands. He's clapping. Something happens. He looks down and he's like, what the fuck? It could have been a spit. It could have been an insult. It could have been anything that Harry Stiles did. Or maybe it was something, I don't know, maybe Olivia Wilde did

something happen to upset Chris Pine. I think that we, I think that That's indisputable. I don't think it was his glasses. Whoa. I found, I think, what your tweet-tweater buddy was referring to. This is from 26 Harry Style Facts that only the diehard fans know on pop sugar.com. This is what we need.

Fact number six, he has four nipples? I didn't know. Wow. Maybe he did it on Chris Pine. Maybe he did a little squirt onto him from one of his nips. Where are the other nipples? Fact number four, he loves to buy pizza for people. Not fun.

Oh, that's cute. I like that about him. He admitted he doesn't like girls who spit. Do with that what you will. Now, I think that recontextualized it. So, yeah, so what he doesn't like this guy.

He doesn't like girls who spit. That's the ultimate insult to him. Is that what you're saying that I should go after him? Dirty girl. I mean, I'm an older woman. I don't spit. Come on, Harry.

Yeah, him not like a little bit on my shoes and tell me it's right. until you would. First of all, how is that even the thing where you're like, I don't like girls who spit? Like, how does that even come up for you, Harry? I think some people are really turned off by people who casually spit. I mean, I used to casually spit more often when I was a smoker.

Yeah, smoker. So I think maybe just like that kind of thing. Or it's something we do when we're younger, right? Didn't we used to spit more often when we were younger? What is that? Yeah, there's definitely spitters. I've just never had to, like, make a declarative sentence. Like, I hate the category, girls who spit.

But he has. Yeah. He also loves Scrabble, ladies. Oh, my God. He's smart. He's not like Leah Michelle who can't read. He only say that because she's a woman. But that's, I mean, different article.

I was screaming about this. I guess we're off of spakeet. I've actually turned around after the new evidence is real of itself, him spitting on his own fans with glee, him disliking other women who spit, I think that it's absolutely a spit. You know, a dry mouth spit because he was on so many edibles. Yeah, and also he's a singer, you know,

singers do all sorts of weird shit with their mouths. Like, they're like, I can't drink milk. I need to spit. Someone included this part that, like, apparently where they were watching the movie, there were no trash cans. And so someone's like, what if he spit gum? There's no gum that came out of that mouth.

No, no. I stared at that mouth. No gum came out of the mouth. No gum. And if he spit gum on the floor in front of people, I would be like, I would be so against him as a human being. It's like, someone's got to clean that up. I hate that. I don't think he would spit your gum on the floor.

Chris Pine's shoes. I don't, and this is the thing. I don't think, obviously, you would be absolutely insane to be like, I'm going to make a decision to spit on Chris Pine right now. But I just do think that something happened to upset Chris Pine in that moment that he realized in that moment looked down and thought. what the fuck. That seems to be. So I think we have to work backwards from there. What could it be?

We don't have to solve it today. This can be an ongoing project. Oh, it's going to be ongoing because, I mean, the fact that it was given a five-minute standing ovation, you know, it really wipes it wipes a slate clean. And we just gave it a 40-minute discourse. Yes. I was going to say, we've been talking about for so long. We didn't even talk about Doggy Parton, Dolly Parton making wigs for dogs. We didn't talk about Leah Michelle screaming about how no one would say that she can't read if she were a man.

Untrue. And while that is nothing, that's not true, you're a racist piece of shit. I love now the new thing is because we're in this kind of era of people being more aware of other things and of biases and things like that. Just good, generally. There's all this discourse online. Yeah. But then bad people, this is like, I feel like I put this in like the Jesse Smollett category of like, I'm trying to use all of that in my favor, me a dickhead. celebrity that is an asshole.

The reason why we make fun of you about the whole not being able to read thing is because we all know you're a big asshole. And so that's why, and like not being able to read has never been, to my knowledge, we were talking about it before the show, ever connected to being a woman, maybe like pre-suffragette era or something.

But like, not since I've ever been aware on this planet. Have we been like, oh, she's a woman? Can she read? Right. This is the thing. Like, yes, of course. like misogyny, like, suggests, there's like a trope of suggesting women are dumb. Like, yes, totally. But, like, spiz to her be like, this is misogyny.

No, there's not, like, you're not tapping into a deeper tradition of accusing women's celebrities you don't like of not being able to read. No, this just happens to be a hilarious rumor about you and you suck and everybody thinks it's hilarious because everyone knows you suck. I'm sorry, I don't think it's misogyny. It is just hilarious to be like, wow, you're a racist who can't read. Like, it's just fun. It's funny.

Let us have some fun every once in a while. Not everything has to be a social movement. And again, I always think of the same by the bell when Screech's bully can't read. And he confesses it to Screech. And Screech responds with a lot of compassion. And the bully says, why aren't you laughing? And Screech says, it's not funny. And it's so moving.

And in general, of course, we don't make fun of people for not being able to read. Of course. We only make fun of Leah Michelle for not. Yes, for not being able to read. Bitch. So we don't care. Yes. She took the other woman's role.

Her name's sissy, sassy. What's her name? Beanie, beanie. Oh, I thought you were talking about the cat from Homeward Bound. It was like, what did she do when is sassy? No. I didn't think about sassy a lot. That's the name I haven't heard a while, the sassy from homeward bound.

Should I do this celebrity conspiracy or do we have anything else? Britton Frazier, look up the video of him crying about during his 20 minute long, standing ovation for the whale. I feel like he's just awkward being like, when is this standing ovation going to end? Why would anyone stand and ovate for this long? I can't imagine it. There's no reason for this much ovating.

It is unnecessary. I can't imagine giving a hand clap for multiple minutes. Try to do it. That is a workout in and of itself. It's like, what am I hulu hooping? I know the longer I do it, the more uncomfortable it's going to be. I don't want to stand there for. eight minutes and clap.

I don't. No. I always assumed I'd be invited to con or something like that sometime in the future. I'm sure it'll happen. And when it does, I'm definitely going to go to the bathroom right when I see the credits hit. I'm going to run to the bathroom and just like laugh and be like, they're still going. I'll be like at the bar getting, you know, because they usually have something like that at one of those things.

You know, I'd be at the bar doing shots. Be like, they're still clapping for this movie that was fine. I'm excited for the whale, though. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm totally down. I'm going to watch the hell out of it. I know that there's, this is another one of these movies. It's getting so much buzz.

But apparently there's a lot of, it's kind of rife with reviews that are just like, they've got a lot of things to say. There's lots of barbs about it. There's like, it's, and yet everyone loves Brendan Frazier. And we're so happy to see him overcoming what he's gone through. Exactly. But I'm, so I'm going to watch the hell out of it. But I don't know if it's going to be any good.

That's the thing. I mean, it's getting. getting good reviews. I'm so happy for Brandon Frazier. I just have seen some like people saying that the, I don't know if the movie itself is like fat phobic, but I've seen, I mean, just the excerpts of reviews I have seen about it. The reviews are incredibly fatphobic. And so I say, abolish the film critic, I say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're moving, get rid of them. Yep. Shoot them into the sun. And I will just say I super cry. during the Taylor Swift.

Man, always thinking about Taylor Swift. Midnight. He's never not. Four varying finals. What were you doing? I want to get the mahogany one. Oh my God. It's about all of her many midnight.

She stayed up past midnight. I think he's referring to Taylor Hawkins, by the way. Yeah, I super cried during Taylor Hawkins tribute concert when his son came out and did a hero, my hero with foo fighters. It was like really beautiful. and I was just like, you know, slow cry, you know? I was just like, it was like slowly coming down.

I love those. It's probably my favorite cry where I was like having this kind of euphoric moment with it and just like the tears were just dribbling. So it wasn't like, oh, oh, like I did during Coco. It was more like just like, I just let it wash over me and I thought that was beautiful. Yeah. But also midnight's October, I'm sorry the man passed away, but also midnight's October 21st. Wow.

I'm just so proud. happy for you because you almost bought the other versions of the vinyl. Everybody knows you almost bought the other versions, but now I'm really proud of you. I'm proud of you for hopefully holding off so you don't keep Scooter Braun the money. God help me. Think about the bigger picture. And we're proud of that teenage boy for doing a nice tribute for his dad. I still might get 1989 in reputation, but also my heart goes out to the food fighters.

Are you ready? Wait, what are you talking about? Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, don't hit me up at all about what I just did, by the way, online or offline. Don't talk to me about it. Just let me live in it. All right, I'll get into the celebrity conspiracy, right? Yes.

Hit me with the share. Do you believe it? Does Stephanie Meyer write a new anti-Morman novel in secret? Ooh. That's right. This one comes in from Phoenix, who writes, Jackie is going to love this, all credit to Reddit user OFC. And yes, they link to the.

this Reddit post with the title, Pretty sure Stephanie Meyer wrote a new novel that's slightly anti-religious under another name to avoid getting in trouble with the Mormon Church. The post reads as follows. Stephanie Myers is LDS Mormon and wrote the wildly popular Twilight and host series. I just read a book called Corrine, and it's a good romance about a girl who leaves a fundamentalist Christian church and has very Mormon vibes. I live in Utah.

I grew up here, so I know all their favorite things, like Niam. their son's Enoch, the main character's name. The writing seemed very similar to Twilight as I was reading it, and I checked the back for the author, and it says Rebecca Morrow is a pseudonym for a New York Times best-selling author. Is it possible she is writing a book that would cause her to be excommunicated from her church and didn't want anyone to know? Let me know if anyone else has read it and what you think. I think it's a fun conspiracy, but I honestly think it's true. Edit in case anyone cares for the clues or as follows.

It has a review from Jody Picoult on the back. Why would she review a book from some nobody? The cover marketing and book quality reeks of money. Big old hardback book, too. I've read the Twilight series over 20 times and immediately recognized the writing. And then I looked at the back cover and found it was written under an anonymous pestling author.

She mentions the leading male's hair color a lot. Oh, my God. Anyone remember Edwards' copperhead of hair mentioned a hundred times? Because I do. And also Jacob's russet skin. Yes. How many times she had to say his russet skin.

We get it, Stephanie Myers. Corrine is known as a specifically non-Morman town established in Utah. Update. I didn't expect the post blowout. Always with the post blowing up. And she was like, I was trying to oust Stephanie Meyer get her in trouble. She was trying to just probably avoid an awkward conversation. I do love this too.

Some quotes underneath. I can't remember this from the comments. I can't remember all the common Myers phrases, but if you count how many times she uses chagrin, I bet you get your answer. Oh. And it is crazy. I looked up the name Rebecca Morrow.

The only, there's no wiki on her, the only thing it says is that McMillan publishers is just as Rebecca Morrow is a pseudonym for a New York Times best selling author. That's it. That's all there is about her. I believe. Oh, I believe.

Yeah. I know how the publication, like, I know how they were. and there's no way, because now she is seen as a pro-Morman writer, there's no way that they would allow her under her name to ever write anything about any kind of person excommunicated from a church or leaving a church. There's no way they would allow it to happen. I believe. I also love all these little Stephanie Myersisms in the comments.

If any character's eyes tighten. Oh, my God. That or, oh, God. What is it? It was just like, oh, he laughs humorlessly. Edward laugh humorously. So I just would always go like, ha ha ha ha. You laugh humorlessly.

I mean it's creepy as hell. Oh my God. It's so funny to think of like making, it's so fun to hear people make a collective list of like the annoying little habits of a writer that they've read a lot, you know? Because like anybody who's read one writer a lot could probably do that, but you don't usually actually do it. So it's like really, really fun to hear everybody be like, yeah, she also says chagrined all the time. You know. Here's a, and glower or glowered a lot. Oh, my God, always with the glowering.

Always, always. And how many times do you have to say it? Like, especially when you're doing an audiobook, that stuff really comes into play. Right, right. You really notice the words that are said over and over again where you're like, okay, can we have something else? Yeah, another user. I do remember how often everybody sighed, especially Bella just sighing everywhere. Always sighing.

Always sighing. Always under their breath. Everything. was like chuckling under their breath. Yeah, I was going to say to the characters, especially the male romantic lead, chuckle a lot. They chuckle, they murmur a lot. A lot more times in a three-page span.

Oh, yeah, yeah. When I was like a young ambitious writer, how often I used murmur. Oh, yeah, they got a murmur sometimes. Another user, she used undulating at least once in each Twilight book. Oh my God. Well, now I want to read this other book.

You have to. You have to. You have to. I think I do have to. I mean, because you did an audio book, you have a familiarity with... I got to feel it out in my mouth. Although I will say we're really getting into the spicy parts of Ice Planet Barbarians if you are interested over on the page 7 Patreon because, man, the last chapter I read,

wow. I was like uncomfortable while I read it. Which I hope means that you were intrigued to listen to it. a lot happens in that book, Bobbo, Bobbo. It's very horny as well. Well, I hope to enjoy it Riley and with Reverie,

as those are also two words. Riley is such a, like, ambitious writer word. Yeah. Riley. He said Riley smiling. While he laughs humorously. I want to do a whole second episode where we just talk about

annoying things writers say. But first, before we get to another episode, we have to read the list. Oh! Who's on the list? Me! Jackie! Gotta have that list. Unique celebrity items sold in auctions,

William Shatner sold his own kidney stone. It raised $25,000 for Habitat for Humanity. The president of Julian's auctions joke that it would be the first. Habitat for Humanity House made from stone. I get it. Kidney stones, huh? Kidney stones, baby. But what about Joan Rivers?

Joan Rivers Dog Bowl from Tiffany and Co. And if you remember, if you listen to the Joan Rivers pop history that we did, I don't know why it's one of these facts I'm always going to remember about Joan Rivers, that there was a time when she was feeling very depressed and thinking about taking her own life and her dog jumped up on her lap and she was like all i can think of was who would take care of my dog and it makes sense she loved her dog so much that she got her dog bowl from tiffany and co and then sold it at an estate auction it was sold for fourteen thousand dollars how about this bullshit right here apparently an iphone that riana broke so riana accidentally

dropped the iPhone of L.A. Police Commissioner President Steve Soberoff when trying to take a selfie together. She paid for a new phone, autographed the broken one, and donated $25,000 to the L.A. Police Foundation, not that they fucking hated. But Soberoff put the autographed, cracked phone on eBay and raised an additional $65,500 for the fund. A-C-A-I-Fone. Damn. Damn, damn. What's that?

Oh, yeah, like ACAB. Oh, okay, I get it. All cops are iPhones. Yeah, all police officers are iPhones. Akka iPhone. Aka iPhone. Now we're just in a Star Wars canteen. This is what's happening now.

Aka iPhone. Well, you might buy that in the Star Wars canteen. You might pick up Justin Timberlake's half-eaten French toast. That was sold. on eBay for $1,000. Come on. Was it DJ too? A DJ sold it.

Yeah. That he left it. It's like he did in a morning interview, ate half the French toast, and then he sold it. That's yucco, bro. Come on. No, I don't like that.

No, the yucco is the person who bought it for over a thousand dollars. You're right. You're right. Because like you can't keep it. What would you even do with it? Right? Do you like cover it in polymer or something?

People are so gross about the select. What part? I love Taylor Swift. I don't want her breakfast, half-eaten breakfast. Yeah, but would you want? One of your rotten teeth. Yeah, I'd take that. What were you about to say?

I was just, what if you were at, what if you went into a popular brunch spot? And you saw that Taylor Swift was sitting at a table and you play it cool. You don't even say anything. You're like, I'm not going to bother her. She has her own life. And then she gets up and leaves up. and her pancakes are still there. You're not even going to just try to lick it.

You're not going to lick the plate at all? I would be fun to take a bite of that pancake for sure. But I wouldn't pay $1,000 to put it in my fridge or whatever they did with it or laminated, I guess. That's what you do. Yeah, I think so. But then, I mean, I imagine same with polymer with a rotten tooth. John Lennon's Rotten Tooth. In 2011, the Beatles Tooth was sold for about 31.

$1,200 in a London auction. The tooth was originally given to Lenin's housekeeper after he had it removed to give to her daughter, who was a huge Beatles fan. Thanks. Thank you for that. Can't you just sign a piece of paper? Why do I have to have the tooth? Can't you just, it's so much easier to just autograph something.

Literally just a napkin. That's all you have to do. Yeah. You're John fucking Lennon. I don't know. I guess if you're John Lennon, you've gotten it into your head. You're like everything I, everything that has to do with me is so valuable that I shouldn't throw away this tooth. I should give it to someone.

I guess you really hit that. Now this, I understand. How much would you pay for Russell Crow's jockstrap from Gladiator? Oh, I thought you were going to say from Les Mizz. Oh, yeah. I don't know what happened underneath there. I would pay $8,000. So I would also.

Get it for $8,540 for Russell Crow's jockstrap From Gladiator. Speaking of where to put your gum, Harry Styles, Britney Spears, yes. It was legitimately won at Crow's divorce auction. Ooh.

That's just a fun auction right there. I would love to go to a divorce auction. Yeah. Get your shit out of this house. Get your bed out of this house. I don't want to see your clothes. I don't want to see your job. Stop.

from Gladiator. Get it all out. I imagine that's what a divorce auction would be. Ooh, what would you sell at your own divorce auction? My divorce auction. Let's see. I guess Lexi's records, right? I'd get rid of her records.

Okay. I'd sell, I guess I'd put my baby up there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think I'd pay. Yeah. How much would you pay for Winnie? Probably five bucks in a rotten tooth.

Oh my goodness, there you go. I think you'll get some of those coming your way. Absolutely. Anyways. If I keep eating candy the way I eat got candy, or if I keep buying Elvis's stained underwear because someone bought his just, what is it called, spare tire?

Flat tire. Skidmark. Rubbers. Skidmark. Skidmarked. Skidmarked. Underware for eight. $8,000. It was sold for $8,000. His literal shitty underwear. So I guess I would pay more than

$8,000 for your baby, Holden. But I would throw a couple rotten teeth in there. I'll take it. I'll take it. That is, yeah, this list makes me sad about people. Do we call teeth rotten teeth also? Like, couldn't we use a different, the whole list has made me sad as well. Yeah, it's just so depressing that the tens of thousands of dollars, it's just like I could so use that money. You're spending it on a block of hair. I didn't even read the one, a jar of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's breath. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. It's like that escapes from the jar. For their breath. It's nothing. That's the emperor's new clothes. It's unbelievable. There's nothing in the jar. And I would just assume that their breath, quote unquote,

would like seep out of the jar or what. There's nothing in that jar. Are you going to huff it? Like, I don't know what you do with the breath. Yeah. Like if you needed to do a DNA test on the jar, there would be no DNA from Brad or Angie NeNe- That's my guess. Yeah, that's what I would propose as well. It's so strange. I mean, I just hope these are all witches using this stuff for like some type of

spell or curse. Yeah, or something. It's a curse or spell. Or reincarnation. Yeah, yeah. Reanimation or something. There's just like a dead John Linnon walking around. He's like, play a song for us. He's like, ah! And there's like head falls off. Oh, then his teeth fall out.

Yeah? Is what I like to think. Wow, good, good sad list, Jackie. Hell yeah. I can think, but I cannot see. That's right. I think I'm going blind. Items.

Ah, we can't see them. All right. These series of blinds are titled celebrities. They're just like us. Celebrities, they're not just like us. Let's start off with a not just like us. The A list, everything in her mind, celebrity, calls the Paps on her husband every day,

just to make sure he is wearing what she told him to wear. I love the idea that they call the paparazzi on your significant other just to make sure they're dressed how you made sure they would be dressed. They recently got married. No, they recently got married. Is it a Kardashian? No, it was a huge deal. I love putting her in blinds because all of her blinds are funny like this. There was a Netflix documentary I haven't seen about.

about her not too long ago. Yes, and bit out of that. Oh, that makes, see, that makes honestly complete sense. I believe that 100%. I think that makes absolute sense. There you go. Especially with, like, I saw some video of him, like, trying to be better at speaking Spanish, which is very, very fun to watch.

That's hilarious. You know, he's just, he's just like a drunk gambler, you know? Yes, he's a riverboat guy. He's pretty good. Spanish though. When I saw it... Oh, yeah, yes. I was like, wow, damn.

She's really working on it. She's really working on it. Yeah, he's really... He's really... He's no hilarious. He's definitely much better than Hilaria. Okay, I'll throw that up there.

This is another... They're not just like us. This A plus list, mostly movie actor, now puts a guard on garbage duty every week. The actor is worried people take things from his garbage, has a security guard on trash day.

Watch over the garbage in the alley behind his Santa Monica home. Obviously, based on the previous list, this actor is correct because people want your fucking garbage. Apparently. Your garbage. Not off base.

This actor's been under fire recently. Harry Styles. Harry Styles. He's the voice. He's annoyingly the voice of everything. Oh, Chris Pratt. Yeah. That makes sense.

I saw his episode of the Home Edit. So he should not. What did you think about it? Did he home edit? Yeah, it's like, oh, I have all my camping gear, and I also have all my survivalist gear, and I also have all my fishing. You know, it's fine.

He's just like, oh, organize my huge garage. He's one with the earth. Yeah, he's one with the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need all my camping supplies on the wall, so they're organized, and the home edit ladies are like, we can do that for you, and they're like, yay, it's fine. Yeah, that's, oh, gotcha.

I can't watch those shows. I don't like a portion or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I want to watch the home edit because I like organization. I wish, I think, I wish I did. But it's actually, it's not as enjoyable for me as I always think it will be. No, I just feel like it makes me judge my life so much. Exactly.

I look around and I'm just like, oh no, I'm a maximalist. Oh, no. I'm a maximalist. And I don't have thousands of dollars to spend on bins. You need so many bins. Don't the bins take up more space. I know the organization is important. But as someone that is currently planning a wedding,

I feel like everyone's like, you know, you need bins. Where am I going to put the bins? What am I going to do with the bins after the wedding? They stack, Jackie, stack them. Oh, do they stack? But I never know what to do with my bins that I'm not using. I don't have, I had, don't, now I need to organize the unused bins.

Create a ceiling hutch, a loose sheet on your ceiling and you slide the bins into that. And it's not just the bins, it's the labels. The home edit people are like, you have to label everything. I don't label it. I'm not going to label it. Lexi just. tried to do that with like all of Woody's toys. Like, she's like, these are the Montessori toys and these are the musical toys.

Like, it's immediately everything's just all the scattered. It's just toys. It's just a toy bin. Yeah, yeah. Just one toy bin works just fine. But either way, we'll keep it moving. Celebrities, are they just like us? This illiterate A-list actress says that she has been told by her people to hide in her hotel room

while at this international festival. They are afraid about her being forced to answer questions from press. They cannot control. She says she is going to live her life. and I say good for her. That is the blind people said good for her. I didn't necessarily say good for her. This person recently embroiled in a weird controversies involving Instagram,

involving photos that was posted from a personal event in their life. This was the big news story I was surprised, was not included on the list in the emails. This person is young. This person is beautiful. This person has tits. I'm just going to say it. They're fun and they exist.

She's beautiful She's like a hot Oh it's like she's beautiful She has beautiful tits Beautiful Tits She's tits Her name is Tits

She's in a Hot show on HBO Oh It's gonna be euphoria And it's gonna be that person Who got married? Not married She hasn't been married

She's at an international festival Oh I thought you said Oh yes Savannah Sweeney What's her name? her parents are MAGA people. Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney. Oh, because of all the MAGA shirts and everything.

Yeah, the star recently. And not only the MAGA hats, but it was like a thin blue line polisher shirt. Yes. There was a blue line like Punisher shirt on one of the unidentified people that people thought was her dad potentially. The star recently responded to online backlash over a photo she

shared from her mother's 60th birthday party featuring an unidentified man wearing a shirt featuring a flag with a thin blue line. There were also pictures of Sweeney's family members wearing red, make 60 great again hats. First of all, you fucking dorks, it's over. It's been over. This is so lame.

That's so fucking lame. Like, really, you're still stuck on this fucking Make America Great Again thing? It's done. It's like, years have passed. Why are you, like, why are you parodying it, you know, tongue in cheek for a 60th birthday? Like, find new identifiers

for your personality. It's so pathetic. Sweet, Sweeney tweeted later on, you guys, This is wild. An innocent celebration for my mom's milestone 60th birthday has turned into an absurd political statement, which was not the intention. Please stop making assumptions. And the reason why I say celebrities are just like us is that's not necessarily true. But I think we all have had to, many of us have had to combat, oh, let's say with family who live in Florida, for instance, and things like that. We've had to combat with this weird. Because it's like, it wasn't, like, in my brain, I was like, everyone's ripping her apart. Yes, don't pose was picking. I mean, that was a dumb thing. Yeah, that was maybe... But everyone, unfortunately, not saying everyone, but a lot of people unfortunately have people

in their family and extended family that have differing views than a lot of us have. That was how I felt about it too. I'm like, you know, I had just read the Jeanette McCurdy book, which is incredible, but also if you have any experience with eating disorders, just know that it is very difficult to read. I need to read it. It's incredible. I highly recommend it, but again... I'm glad my mom is dead, right?

Yes. I'm glad my mom died. Yes. But the whole book is about her family, how little control she has over her life and how her family, you know, about how fucking awful her family is.

And so I feel like when I saw this story, I was like, I'm not ready to be mad at this actor for her family because she's not really responsible for them. That said, if you post a picture of people wearing red hats in a thin blue line shirt, you should be aware that that's like a signifier for people.

Yeah. Like try to find a photo of the cake or something like something that doesn't have that image in it. I do love how like sure of itself Twitter is. So then they go on and they're just like, you, these people must be disowned by you and you must like turn your back on them immediately. And that's the only way it can be. And it's just like you have no idea how sticky this can be. Yeah. And sometimes you do have to step away from family.

Yes. And create boundaries for sure. For sure. But it gets murky. And sometimes maybe that's not the smartest thing to do if you're trying to like maybe change someone's way of looking at the world. Maybe to walk away from that and not endure it every fucking Thanksgiving in an attempt to try to like speak some sort of other perspective towards them and get them out of this dumb headspace. And I've watched family members evolve. I've watched it happen.

I've literally seen them go. Trump did did a really crazy thing to a lot of people. It was like it was like a hypnosis act or something. something. They just became like insanely fucked in their head. And I watched them in years since soften and chain and turn around. I just think it's so crazy how we have this situation where it's just like stop being so sure of what everyone should do with their lives and how every stand should be. It just makes it's so insane to not feel gray about things sometimes. But it's a very, you know what? I'm sure that person's 22. You know what I mean? And I don't know about

you, but I'm feeling twin now. Don't you Taylor Swift at us. That person, that speaks towards the kind of person. We're like, yeah, when I was 22, I thought everything was incredibly black and white and, you know, witchin was up. And then as life goes

on, you're like, oh, things are a lot more nuanced and complicated and they don't just get like solved by these like hard set notions. You know what I mean? So anyways. Yeah, it would have been completely different if she was wearing one of those. hats or shirts. But to be

held accountable for your family, even if you're saying, here's my family and I love them, you know, yeah, it's like I get why people were upset because the image of, you know, the ideas behind those things are upsetting. But, right, it's like, she's a young actress. She might not have

a bunch of autonomy when it comes to her relationship with her family, you know? Sure. Or like, even understand, I don't know, it just seems, it's just so funny when it's like, you got to cut those people out of your like, these people who raised you and like got you know but it also and it's so funny because they're all wearing their big dumb cowboy hats and stuff and it's just like and also bro if that is especially if that's

the dad either way it's a 60th birthday party everyone else is dressed up you showed up in a t-shirt with a skull on it and a blue blind like it's just classless it's so funny and and the red hats too is just so corny it's like you guys you guys are such nerds guys guys guys God, they're such nerds. It's so funny to see it. But my heart, in a weird way, my heart goes out to Sydney on this one, because it's just like, it's awkward. It is awkward.

Yeah. You know, the only thing it speaks towards like maybe, and maybe you know what, too, it's also assuming that her, just because she's young and Hollywood starlet, that her political ideologies are in line with yours, she might actually be fucking conservative and stuff. And that sucks, but it's just funny, too. It's just like, Sydney, these guys. got to go and it's just like who fight Sidney might be

fucking you know all about that border wall who fucking knows I mean I hope not I hope not but who you know I'm not saying that's good I'm just funny that everyone just knows everything online everyone knows it was a spit everybody knows

that's different but that's so but you guys this is wild an innocent celebration revolves but it's just so funny it is definitely the the fake MAGA hats, though, that really push it home. Like, wow, you guys are really into this. Yes. That is a lot of dedication to a presidency that is,

when in our lives has a presidency four years later, and they're still like, who would, you know, no one was wearing like a fucking Ronald Reagan hat four years after he was out of office. It's crazy. Yeah. Although, you know, sometimes you've got to get those, what does it say no to drugs, hats out?

you know. Uh-oh, dare? Get that going, yeah, man. I love dare stuff. I love deer merch. Wasn't he an anti-drug? Yeah, he was the war on drugs guy. He was the one that took so much of it.

Yes, he was like anti-welfare, anti-drugs. All this shitty stuff from the 90s, man. Yeah, all that dumb shit. Then anyways, I just missed my playing saxophone, going to fuck Island with Epstein. Bill Clinton, man. That was the guy who had to stand by. Yeah, good, good, good.

Glad that's where we're ending this effort today. Yeah, man, hell yeah. Anyways, I didn't get too political, but it made me think so much about everyone. Celebrities are just like us. They also have horribly racist family members they have to contend with and deal with twice a year.

So funny. Yeah, dude. Man, can you see you again? Yes, I can. And I see that we're in an equal footing space where we love everyone. And I think that's great. Well, don't throw your reasonable doubts about me being able to read just because I'm a woman at me.

All right, you two, I can't handle it. I think Jackie's both illiterate and racist. Oh, no. Not both. That's the double whammy. Make 60 great again. If you could read, then you would be less racist possibly. That's what you should tell Leah of a job.

You can read, Leah. Maybe it'd be a little less. I am just going to live forever in a world where any time holding that. has to say, I don't know about you, but he always has to say, but I'm feeling 22. Feeling 22. I am. And I am not feeling 22 right now, but that's okay. Honestly, it's for the best.

If I was feeling 22, I would be brutally hungover and probably dry heaving in between every time I speak, which is many, many episodes of page 7 in the past. But not these anymore, because we're not 22. We're all older than that now. And thank you guys so much for joining us in our welcome back episode. And I am feeling really, really great and not feeling 22. And I appreciate you guys so much for hanging out with us today. Hell yeah, dude.

Spithgate. Tell it to the mountains. So glad that we talked about it for the entire episode. Honestly, I'm proud of us. It's what the people want. It's what I wanted. It's what we wanted. It's what we wanted.

I'm so, you know, everyone's tweeting all of their additional. high school musical recommendations. People are like, oh, if you like this, watch this movie with Zach Efron. And so now the promise of what we have to watch is just growing longer and longer. Very excited. You know, it is very exciting,

but I could not wait to get back to screaming with you guys and particularly screaming about the fact that Harry Styles definitely spit on Chris Pine. Also got a lot of appreciation for us starting to watch the American Pie series, which was like, I didn't know that so many people would want us to watch.

the American Pie series just because I've never seen it. I actually truly want to. It's going to be so problematic and wonderfully dated and terror. It's just going to be so, I mean, this is like, you know, they showed footage,

they showed scenes for American Pie when they were describing how disgusting men were in the 90s during the Woodstock 99 documentary. Like, they were, you know, they used this example of like, a cultural example of like, we used to like,

the way sex was viewed in the media and stuff was like all for the, all for men and gross as hell. around 1990, from 1995 to 2000. It will be a shock. It will, like, when we watched Holiday in Handcuffs from 2009 and it was like a shock to our system, how casually they made date rape jokes. American Pie is going to be like that times 10 gazillion.

It will be a shot. We will just be, we have to, we have to have a plan. We have to have a sexual crime meet a counter. Yes. And every time a sexual crime happens. Yes. We'll add to the counter, right? Okay.

There's just going to be several. It's going to be so fun, but it truly is also going to be awful in a way that I can't. I really want to do it. I can't wait. And thank you guys so much for joining us. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. You can also follow us over on the TikTok at page 7 LPN.

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My name is MJ and I'm MJKLKat on Instagram. I will also say if you need any encouragement to come and join us for Jack and with the Holdies on Friday, I will say I bought 50 of a drink called Slurpers, and I will be forcing Holden to drink them on Friday. So come join us for Slurpers on Friday. Please, please. Slurper Friday.

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To page 7 podcasts At Gmail.com That is page 7 podcast seven the number at gmail.com. Always appreciated it. It always makes me smile, especially even when we're on vacation. Oh, so many smiles. And honestly, this goes right from us talking about not feeling like we are 22 anymore. We've got two very big congratulations going out to two people that are working on their sobriety. We're starting it off with Michelle. And congratulations to you, Michelle. Michelle says, I've been listening to you.

since Marcus was with you. And part of that time I was drunk, drunk, drunk. Well, I'm sober now, and I'm shouting out to myself. It was a long, hard road, but getting sober is amazing. And from what I understand, Gough Daddy Jeff is sober, too. You damn straight he is! I am one month strong and want you all to know that you have helped me, and I love y'all.

We love you too, Michelle. Congratulations on working on yourself. I know it's not hard. Well, that's not what I meant to say. I know it's not easy. I know it's very hard. And I just want to say thank you so much for sending in and sharing this huge milestone in your life with us. And Michelle, you have a partner in sober crime.

And their name is Holly. And they're a little bit further down the road than you are. But this means you gotta keep trucking. Holly says, I've been a long time listener for Roundtable Days and never miss. page seven. You guys keep me sane. I never really had the balls to do a shout out but thought, what the fuck? Hell yeah, Holly! Holly says, I got sober three and a half years ago and completely flipped my life around for the better. You and everyone at last podcast have been constant

comfort in my ears for these last three years of hard work and self-reflection, even more importantly before that when the world was dark and shitty. I owe you all a lot. But I'm actually messaging in to say, I got married. And I wanted you to give a shout out to my beautiful wife, Toria, who has made my life the absolute dream it is today. We both listen to Elpian shows pretty relentlessly, so we're a match made in heaven, or hell, depending what you're into. I never thought three and a half years ago I'd have my shit so together and be with such a beautiful soul.

Check us out. Kick an ass one day at a time. Hell yeah, Holly. I'm so proud of you. Dude, it's so much hard work and I'm so proud of you for sticking with it. And look at how you just changed your life. I got so excited.

I almost knocked over my coffee cup. Holly said, don't stop being you, guys. I know I'm only one of probably thousands at this point who owe you for getting you for getting me. us through the tough times. I think that's pretty fucking rad. And Holly, I think you and Toria are both completely fucking rad. Thank you so much for writing in. And last but not least, we have a beautiful shout out from Seth to his wife, Megan. And Seth says, I submitted a shout out for my wife, Megan's birthday last year, but I felt like I really needed to do it again this year

to recognize her achievements since then. Since the beginning of 2022, Megan has been finally pursuing her lifelong dream of being a full-time artist. She's been working nonstop producing original artwork and doing pet commissions all year. But also, she illustrated a freaking whole-ass children's book that a friend wrote.

The book is called My Grandma the Cosplayer. Again, that's My Grandma, the cosplayer, and it just became available to purchase on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. This is truly a dream come true, and I'm so proud of her. Her birthday is the 21st of September and will be in Salem, Mass, doing all of her favorite things to celebrate her and her accomplishments. So happy birthday, and congratulations, Megan! Also, if anyone would like to give Megan's artwork a follow or to request a spooky pet commission,

oh my God, you have to check out Megan's work. It's unbelievable. out. Her Instagram is guided by ghosts art. Guided by ghosts art. So it's multiple ghosts. Thank you guys for everything you do, including taking the time to read these. Your show never fails to make me smile. I really appreciated the Bernard talk a couple months ago. I love you, Bernard. Hope you're enjoying vacation and always remember, Bernard, Bernard, he makes us hard. Have you told me this before, Seth? But I love, I'm, I have. I'm, I have. I have. I'm going to start screaming, Bernard, Bernard, he makes us hard.

And I feel like it's going to be like a weird hocus pocus crossover with the Santa Claus, which I am here for. And happy birthday, Megan. Congratulations. Again, the book is my grandmother cosplayer. And Megan's Instagram is guided by Ghosts Art. Thank you guys so much again for taking the time to write in. And again, you can send your shoutouts to page 7 podcast at gmail.com.

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