Page 7 - Ep. 481: Nazi's Are Bad, Dude

Episode Date: February 17, 2023

This week we're gossin' 'bout Rihanna and her extra cargo at the Super Bowl Halftime Show and how Holden could have made it better, Holden's rules for moving with a pregnant woman, the wonders of Big Jackie's Fuck It Hats, Penn Badgley trying to clean up "You", Ezra Miller STILL playing The Flash, and in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner; is Trump's Disney World Animatronic actually Hillary!? A List of times actors said "NO!", blindz, and SHOUTZ Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Uh-oh, you better watch out because I might stroke upon your loins. Now there's each other, you can stand under my umbrella, you can say, under my umbrella, Ella, Ella, stroke, stroke, stroke, stroking your loins in the front. Consensually, please, yes, I ask for consent. Under my umbrella, don't get under the umbrella with me, you don't know what's going to happen. Yes. Was it Rihanna at the Super Bowl or was it Jackie's a bro? No, it was Rihanna. It was definitely Rihanna.

Don't worry about me, nuns. Do you think that she has to ask for consent from herself to stroke her own loins? Well, I feel like she stroked her own loins with consent. But I guess it kind of yucked me out. I'm going to go ahead and say it. Yucked me out because she had a baby inside of her. I was going to say, I think you're misinterpreting. I think she was just feeding her baby through her vagina.

She stroked her vagina and then, like, folicked it. Yeah, yeah, because she wanted to also try some of the food to make sure it's not poisonous for the baby. Is that how you think babies get nutrients? That's what I think it is. Yeah, definitely. Oh, it goes through. So you were food.

We used to hand-feed up there. And things to Winnie. We'd go to the park and we'd feed pellets to Winnie. Welcome to page seven, everybody. To the birds. And the fish. Yeah, it is a pellet. I shouldn't say it yucked me out.

This is a controversial opinion. I shouldn't feel this way about it. But the entire, like the entire Super Bowl, I was just like, wait, is she pregnant? I'm not trying to, this. There's no shaming here. Is she pregnant? I think she's pregnant.

I don't think that she would have that pooch just hanging out if she wasn't pregnant, right? And so I was so wrapped up in that, Googling it. Even my mother said she Googled it while she was watching the Super Bowl. I was also confused. I didn't even realize somebody at one point was like, wow, that's like crazy. She's doing all that whilst pregnant. And I didn't even click then. I was like, oh, right.

It's one of those sad moments where I'm like, oh, got it. That's what's a big deal. that she's pregnant. I felt so naive because I spent the entire performance being like, how nice that she is like showing off her sexy postpartum body, you know, because... That's what I thought it was, which is why I had... And then the talks of pregnancy, and I was like, oh, I thought she was also celebrating her shape because who gives a fuck, yes, you have a pooch now, because you gave birth to a human being.

I was actually like a little bit just on a personal level, like slightly sad to realize she was pregnant again only because I was like, oh, hell yeah. She's sexy. Yeah. Well, and also like I, my stomach just kind of like always will look like that from now on, you know, like, and I'm not pregnant. Like, and I, and that's fine, you know, but it's something, it's some adjustment to your, how your body changes postpartum. And I truly spent the entire time being like, how awesome that she's like sexy postpartum. And it's equally awesome. Don't get me wrong.

Extremely equally awesome that she's like sexy, pregnant performing at the Super Bowl, flying on all those levels. I have zero negative things to say about Rihanna's performance. But I also... I thought it was mid. A lot of people seem to think it was mid. It's impossible to have a mid performance by Rihanna in my opinion because the songs themselves. Yes.

Everyone's like, oh, everyone's like she phoned it in. Okay, I'm sorry that she can just be a better dancer than like. 95% of the U.S. population by not trying as hard as she maybe would have if she wasn't pregnant because she didn't dance that much. But also, it might have been that I was watching it through the eyes of a three and four year old who had never seen Rihanna perform before. And I was like, isn't she amazing? And they were like, yes. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So we thought that it was like, it was like, it's like, yeah, we thought it was the performance of a lifetime over here. Yeah. Can you please explain how you set up the Super Bowl for your kids?

I love this. It's so the opposite of how the Super Bowl was thought of in my childhood. Well, it's a little different, I think, because when we were growing up, the, like, family TV was, like, it was like, we grew up with, like, usually there was, millennials, probably had one TV in the living room. And parents, if they were going to watch TV, had, like, their TV schedule. And there was, like, I feel like early on my family had to, like, there was like, okay, the kids get to watch. TV at this time. The parents get to watch TV at this time. But like, maybe it's because my kids are young, but also I think it has to do with phones and multitudes of devices and stuff. But my, my kids just don't usually see us watch things on the big TV and the living room that are for us. Like, usually

it's like that TV when they're awake is like, okay, you get to watch your show before bed or whatever. And so we were setting up the Super Bowl to be like, so most nights you get to watch Bluey before bed. But tonight, you get to stay up late and, like, eat a bunch of chips with the grownups, and we're going to have Uncan Hannah over, and we're going to, like, all watch this big show that we don't actually care about. Like, they kept, Zelda kept saying, when's the football game over the weekend? Like, we're like, it's a football game. And we, like, try to hype it up to be this big, exciting thing. And then I was like, we don't really care about the football game, but I have to pay attention to the commercials for work. And I also need really, really, really

need to pay attention to the concert in the middle. And I was like, this amazing singer and dancer and star is going to do this amazing show. And so the kids were just like, yes, yes, is that her? Is that Rihanna? And like, they were just, like, and so now we're in a big Rihanna. We've been listening to Rihanna in the stroller on the way to school. It's been like. Oh, my God.

And I'm very happy. So it's been a huge success from my point of view. I'm glad that you're listening to Rihanna in the morning because Holden, as I roll up and I'm singing because I blasted Rihanna all the way to work and he was like I'm so glad I wasn't with you on the way to work I was so glad I wasn't with you I said like a leopardon says it

I said it like an Irishman all right so get it your facts right okay I was wearing a little cap and I was drinking of bailies and coffee and you know that getting ready for St. Patrick's Day it's Daddy's special not my wedding anniversary it's St. Paddy's Day that's what you celebrate now we were with

some people that don't like Rihanna. So that way, it was very difficult to be like, and then they're like, name, name. It's not me. It's not me. It's not holding. And I was not giving Jackie Schiff for singing Rihanna. It was the song she was singing.

I was like, uh, it was like, uh, which what? It was like a one of those breakup songs she sings. Oh, I think, wasn't I just, I think I was singing, we found love in a hopeless place. No, it's not that one. At the beginning of this show, she was singing umbrella. Oh, you mean when she pulled up. When she walked in singing the song, it was like the angry, it was an angry Rihanna's Bitch better have my money.

No, I love bitch better have my money. It was the other one. It was the other one two seven before. And no, it wasn't work, which I also loved work. Don't remember it. No, you were like, I shoot up. Oh, just got to sit there and watch me burn. There you go.

I was like, I couldn't be in that space. I couldn't be in that space. I couldn't be in that attitude. I'm jamming, man. I couldn't be in that headspace. I thought it was evidence, by the way, at first. Yeah, I actually didn't realize that was. There definitely was a, we were.

We were talking when we were watching it, it was like the opposite of the Maroon 5 experience where you watch the Maroon 5 at the Super Bowl and throughout the time you're just angry the whole time and you're like, oh, I guess I know this song too. You know, you think you don't know any Maroon's five songs and then you realize you know them all and you hate them. Whereas watching the Rihanna halftime show,

it was like, I know this one. I know this one. This is Rihanna? And just like, I didn't know that Rihanna was on all the lights. And then I was like, why are you doing a Kanye song right now? And it was, but I know. Oh my God, we were so scared. We were like, don't tell me, Yays about to come out.

I know. We were fucking telling me. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. I made a joke that the big red platform they were standing. I was going to turn into a giant swash to because he was going to come out in the middle of it. Yeah, I'm glad that didn't happen. Me too.

I would say, though I may have thought it was slightly middling the performance. I will also say the playlist is great. I know, but you can't hang it on that. You can't just be like, well, it's because then the whole. thing was just a pregnancy announcement? Okay, wait, I've never been pregnant, but MJ, can you imagine a doubt, let's get, let's throw a guess out there for you both, you know what a lump looks like. What, how, how many months? I know second, three, I think, second you show more. I was going to say, you show much more and much earlier in the second time. And, and everyone was

like, oh, they call a Mesa. This is so fast. And I was like, I was like, everyone in my friends group chat was like, wow, you know, she didn't waste any time. And then I was doing the math. And I was like, okay, her first baby was born in May. My first baby was born in May. I announced my second pregnancy in February. So also I'm a little bit on the Rihanna timeline, although I think she was probably more pregnant than I don't. My guess is between, I don't know,

maybe late first trimester, most likely earlier mid-second trimester. She's Rihanna. She's probably not shown as early as I'm excited. I swear I read somewhere three months, but I could be totally, we're off-based. Right on the border of first trimester. second trimester. Yeah.

Can you imagine being that, like that level of pregnant being strapped to a floating platform? I'm not saying it's not crazy. And you feel like shit earliest. So it's not even like, oh, she's not that pregnant. Like you actually, if she is three months pregnant, that's when you, that's like peak shit feeling. Yeah.

Like I would be puking. I would just be on that platform on my hands and knees, puking over the edge of it. That would be actually, that would be. In my opinion, I would have preferred that performance. That would have been amazing. If she started projectile vomiting, I would have been like, yeah. The reason I announced my second pregnancy a little earlier than my first was because I had to go to the ER because I couldn't stop puking. And it was the day of my birthday party.

And so I was like late to my own birthday party in my, that was in my home, I think. It must have been when we lived with John and we were like, John, just have people come over. We'll be in the hospital. And then I like went to the ER because I couldn't stop puking and then came home to my birthday party. And I was like, hello, everyone. Thank you for coming. I was in the ER because I can't stop puking because I'm pregnant again. Wow.

Speaking of, though, happy almost birthday. It's the age of Aquarius for you right now. MJ, happy almost birthday. Yeah, the almost birthday. Did you break in? Did you break in? I was in the emergency room. I couldn't stop working.

You know you gotta work, work, work, work. Love it to be a little. You know you keep my pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Yeah, that would have been the thing, if she had puked all over the place or if she had laughed too hard and pissed her pants, then I would have been like, wow, this is a real demonstration of what it's like to be three months. She just eats a huge like burger in the middle of it. She's like, fuck, this is good.

I'm going to be like, yes. But no, I was not one of the haters at the party. No, you weren't a hater at the party. I will. I'm going to throw it out there. It was a member of LPN. I want names. I guess you can't whistle.

I don't want to out. I don't want to. I don't want to snitch. They might be in the room next door working. I don't want to be one of those. Snitches get stitches. Just that high to them right before we started recording. Definitely an LPN, snitches get stitches.

You don't know who your friend is. You don't know who your enemy is. Because people are, you know, I'm going to say, and I hope I'm not insulting you one, people are weird about Rihanna. Rihanna's another one. They people are weird about. You can't just be like, you cannot criticize. You're not allowed.

She is definitely, the problem is, is that she has made it very clear. She's like, I never, I started doing music as a way to, like, as a stepping stone to do what I really want to do. And that's Fenty. Like, she's killing it as an entrepreneur. And she's always said, like, I know I don't have the best voice. Right. But you love my music, don't you? And so I appreciate the fact that she's always come out and, like, defended herself.

Because a lot of people like, she got saying, oh, how much. Auto tune can we hear in one half-time show? Like, all right. Yeah, but she's a fucking badass. Yeah. And these are, like, this is what children should be looking up to. She used her insane music career as a stepping stone to be able to create a billionaire company. Right, right.

Can I just say this really quick before I get called it? I know I'm mid, okay? I know I'm also mid. All right, you don't have to write in. You don't need to email it. I know that I've been. Good thing looks don't count. Proven.

By the way, the way, the don't count. I made it all the way to where I am, despite all of my ugliness. I look at him. I go, Rihanna's beautiful. She gets to be beautiful. I've made it to where I am despite how my hideous form. So isn't that something special about me? Have you thought about using Fenty?

I have to. How do you use Fenty? Fenty's makeup brand. Oh, okay. So how do I use it? Put makeup on. You need to, we need to, like, we're gonna do it. No, actually, what you should be using is stricks.

We all work for tricks. You know how to use stricks. Fucking, don't wear fit, you wear stricks. Use it more, Holden. The people have demanded. I had a few protesters out front of my apartment this morning, holding signs, Holden, wear some makeup. Wear some makeup.

They can't, because they have to see this. These are literally just people, the people to work at the coffee shop down the street. Is they sick of seeing what they see? I can see your pores from here, and everybody knows it. everybody knows that that's bad. I mean, Fenty is, I have a Fenty palette that my brother got me for Christmas a couple

years ago and it's probably my favorite cosmetic I love. Coveted. The diamond bomb. You got to get the diamond bomb. Oh my God, it makes you shine bright like a diamond. It does make you shine bright like a diamond. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's just different things to admire about Rihanna.

And yeah, her vocals maybe aren't one of them. I did learn on Sunday that she's like, hasn't had any plastic surgery done. She's just, you know, talk. You can't call. How are you going to call that mid, Holden? She's like the most beautiful woman in that stadium. I'm so scared about calling it mid. I don't even think I believe it.

So I just want to let people know it. And I don't think I believe it. Yeah. No, I didn't representing the viewpoint that some, a lot of people did feel like it was underwhelming because it was very much predicated on like, look, bitches, I'm pregnant, which I think is cool. and at the same time just didn't lead to as like over the top. You know, maybe a two, I think maybe a guest or two.

I think everybody was expecting a guest or two. I was so surprised that there were no guests. I think the fetus was the guest. The feet, no, she did say, and I thought that was really cute. It was like, there will be a real special guest on stage. She said it on CBS. She said it to CBS as Nate Burleson. He asked about Rihanna.

Rihanna's half-time show if she's going to have any surprises. And she smiled and said, I'm thinking about bringing someone. I'm not sure. Well, see. And, of course, she was talking about the child inside of her uterus, which is cute. And I, yeah, I'm already despondent about my words and deeds today in this morning. Yay, but at the same time, if you're talking about mids in greenery, like, back in the day when you get a bag of mids? You love mids.

By the way, I'm not saying it's bad at all. I'm just saying, like, you know, compared to some of the iconic prince, Lady Gaga. And it's literally just because they, like, weren't pregnant. Yeah, Beyonce, even last years, you know, was insane with, you know, Snoop and Kendrick and Dre. I mean, it was just... Last year's was the weekend, which was also mids. Oh, really? Wait, no, no, no, no, no.

Last year's was, no, I know, because my parents were in town. In Atlanta. It was the... The weekend was two years ago? The weekend was two years ago. Oh, my Lord. That was extremely mid. Yes, I was going to say, talk about mid.

By the way, there you go. Already have a new metric. Already have a new metric. Rihanna, high end of mid. Because if we're going to compare it to weekend, definitely not as mid as weekend. Weekend was a slumber party, bro. I think only mid because people, yes, the weekend was a slumber party, despite all the cocaine. I think that it was only, I think people were so excited about Rihanna because everybody knows that Rihanna's catalog of songs is like the fucking, you know, incomparable, the best on earth.

And so I think people were so excited about Rihanna. and then they were like there wasn't quite as much dancing and and flashiness as I expected from a Rihanna concert and and that was probably because she was pregnant and so I think people were maybe a little bit they had a certain type of expectation about the show would be and they got a different show. I don't think that means that Rihanna is mid and I don't think that's what you're expressing hold. I think you're expressing the dissonance of maybe what people were expecting and then what they what they saw and there was a different pleasant surprise. which was her pregnancy, and the pleasant surprise wasn't like a lot of pyrotechnics and intense chore.

In a way, I was, like, kind of blown away. Like, that is why that, I mean, and for her, that's so cool. Like, what a cool moment, like, that she'll be able to share with that child. Totally. You know, for the rest of life, like, look at this shit. You know what I mean? It was almost felt more, like, personally gratifying for her more than, like, the best Super Bowl halftime show. You know what I mean, I guess?

And as much as I was saying, like, that. And I kind of think that's badass on its own. But the fact that she's like whatever, dude, is kind of cool. Like, I like the whatever attitude of it in a certain way. Because there is sort of a laid back, like lean back attitude of it, like the whole performance, right? Because she's a flawless human being. Maybe I'm also calling me as like, I kind of thought that the snowman's choreography was kind of whatever at points. Like at one point, they were just waving their arms back and forth and like, that's all they did.

I thought that Freddie would be super excited to see all this choreo. And I was like, look at all the dancers. And she was like, I like the lady in the red, but I don't like all the people in the white. She was just not into the backup dancers. I was like, all right. Whoa, that is a review. There you go.

There you go. I'm not fine. Yeah, I was kind of like, what is this choreo too? I think maybe if there was just some crazier, you know, if there was like a man on fire that just ran through like, they were on the sky like they were on a UFO. The platforms were super cool. I love the Super Smash Bros memes that are coming out on that.

And I also think that there's just a lot of value. As much as I had this kind of personally jarring experience about thinking that it was like sexy postpartum, Rihanna, which I was really hoping for. I do think that it was very meaningful to people to be like, to have her being like, I am sexy as shit and I am pregnant. You know, like I think that obviously she's Rihanna. She could be sexy no matter what she is wearing, what she looks like, what size her body is. But I thought there was like something specifically cool about just being like, look at how sexy I am and look at my stomach. And, you know, that's always kind of nice to see that a different type of sexy. Yes.

Yes, for sure. And I know that I shouldn't say that I think it's yucky that she licks her pussy and then licks her hands when she's feeding the baby. Jackie. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that like when you leave out carrots for a reindeer, that you must, you know, insert food for a child to supple. Jackie, if you don't want to fuck a pregnant woman, just say it. Stop just dancing around the bush, okay? Yes, it will lead to outrage.

It will lead to many screaming at you. I'm glad that there are people that find it really, like, turn on. I think I'm pretty sure that my husband will, if I'm ever throbbing with child. I know that he would be very into it just because he loves me so much, and I think that's great. Fine, I'll say it. Jackie shines bright like a blood diamond. Isn't that right, Jackie? Is it the how many dead?

I'm sorry. Unbelievable. Well, I want to shine bright like a diamond, and I'm shining the light over on Justita Miles, who was the ASL interpreter for Rihanna's Super Bowl performing. That was a thing. Unbelievable. In comparison, I was like, where was this dancing? Look at that. She can't do it.

She's throbbing with child, Holden. Her dancing was great, Holden. It was just not like full body, corps. But again, when you, I just, I feel like as somebody who just will, inherently does not have a rhythm or any sort of like graceful movement in my body, would I just see Rihanna just be like, I can literally just move my one hand and be more impressive with my grace. Right now, right now you are dressed like me in private school in fifth grade. That's my favorite outfit. Yeah, a little private school. It's amazing. I love it. It's a great look.

It doesn't scream tiny dancer to me. You know what I mean? It doesn't scream it to me. Well, I'm waving one hand around and I don't look cool, whereas Rihanna just has to pick up one hand and just look really cool, you know? I mean, Rihanna's up there with Mariah Carey. You know, Mariah Carey, who also, I think, is paid not to move on stage because she is a frozen corpse from the neck down. But she also does every once in a while raise her hand while while she's singing. And that's all we need. Rihanna's dancing is not even in the same category as Mariah Carey as what Mariah Carey's dancing Karely is. It was much higher quality than that.

I also want to talk about Justina Miles, who also made history as the first deaf person to perform the ASL rendition of Lift Every Voice and Sing, known as the Black National Anthem at the Super Bowl. So she also was signing for the performance. in the pre-show performance as well. And everyone loved her during that. So she's become like, she's going viral. I believe that she was also a member of the Deaf Olympics.

And, but if you please take a moment, look up Justina Miles and watch her performance of the Super Bowl halftime show. Unbelievable. Yeah. What, like, I was just like, I fell in love with her. Oh, yeah. I fell in love with her the way that she was just so fucking into it.

I was like, yes, I love it. Yeah, and then now on Twitter, a bunch of people are sharing, like, other ASL interpreters, like, at concerts, doing, like, I think I just saw one of, like, Missy Elliott, like, of an interpreter of Missy Elliott show. Like, it's so fun, and I'm so glad that that can be part of, you know, what everybody sees when they look it up and enjoy that incredible, like, linguistic experience. Because it's also, it's a part, it added so much to the performance because there were certain channels that showed them side by side. And I wish of the channel we were watching it on had showed it side by side because that would have also brought so much animation to the performance that I feel like people thought were lacking from Rihanna. But again, throbbing with child. I guess my assumption is that if I ever get throbbed with child, I am just going to lay down and be like, I can't. Right.

I can't do any of it. As is you're right. Yeah. I'm making a life. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm very impressed by Lexi and very impressed by UMJ, the fact that you guys still, like, you know, lived a life while you were throbbing with a child. And note to the world, never move with a pregnant woman across the country because you're doing all of the lifting. There's no lifting allowed by the pregnant woman.

So it is just exhausted. But what are you going to do? You don't wait until you got a little baby. It's even harder. Sweet you do. You got to go. You got to do it. You got to get out of there, man. You gotta get out of there, bro. That was the hardest part was the like, Lexi was such a trooper, but she literally is not allowed to lift. Right, after a certain point, you're not allowed to lift.

Of course. In fact, I'm going around screaming at her to not lift shit, you know, because she's still trying to do everything by yourself, but God, that is so exhausting. Well, that's, it's so hard to because, like, on the one hand, you don't want to do anything, but on the other hand, you also, right, you do want to do.

It's very frustrating, especially for me, like, as a person who's not disabled, Like it was my first time being like, my body has limits and there are certain things I'm not supposed to do. And it was very hard for me to like get used to that. Yeah. And people would always be like, sit down. Sit down. You must need to sit down. And I was always like, I'll sit what I want to sit. Like stop making me sit down. And I was teaching at the time. And I wanted to be on my feet. It felt good to be on my feet. But then so people, but it's like nobody can do anything right. Because if people offered me a chair, I would be like, stop offering me a chair. But if I was on the subway, and people didn't get up, I would be like, you're the devil incarnate, you know. So it's just, I was very upset for nine. Sounds like fun. Oh, my God. I should look into getting this done to me, huh?

I'll throb with child. I love being angry. It's like, oh, God, I'll have to go back. I'm not going to, I'm not even to think about this. What I am going to think about is talk about difficulties in marriage. Penn Badgley, I need to talk about this. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about this.

Penn Badgley, from you. Yes, from you. The show, the TV show, you. Yes, no, from you. You, that is little amazing. Crazy newscast. There's this hilarious newscast where this one, these co-anchors, one's trying to reference the show you.

And it's like a who's on first bit. The other person, look this up. It is so funny. The other person can't figure out that he's not saying you, the person. He's saying there's a TV show called you. And it's one of those frustrating things where she never figures it out. She just doesn't figure it out. Like, so it just leaves with her stooping, like, all right, I guess I'm a TV show.

It's so funny. I'm the TV show. No, there are just some things that you do for a partner. I will say, I just wanted to throw out real quickly. Sometimes you have a partner like mine who has created a bunch of designs and bucket hats, by the way, on big jacky. You can buy your own fuck it hat now. It is a bucket hat. It says fuck it on it.

And that is the kind of things that my partner who has designed multiple designs like a Warwick Davis fan club shirt for me over on bigjackie.com. Those are the kind of things we do in our relationship and I really appreciate that. I would never in a hundred million years. I screamed about this article to my husband. Penn Badgley wanted less sex in you, the television show, out of fidelity to his real life. sex in me, he's not having any sex in me. No, he's not having sex in you. I don't know what you're talking about.

TV show. Yeah, he wants less sex in you, Holden. So get your butt not as loose. I wish I could quote the exact tweet. This is obviously what happened. It was like, apparently people don't get what happens when you cheat. I saw that exact tweet too. You're put on lockdown.

Yeah, you put on a short leash. Because you cheated. Yeah. That's, I was just, hold it, I was literally just looking for this tweet because this is my favorite theory of this because it's like, oh, this isn't. Explain the tweet. Explain the tweet. I don't know what tweet you guys are talking about.

The tweet in other words is supposing that. And I think it's pretty obvious. He cheated on his wife. She found out. And that is why he's now on a short leash. And she made him go in and demand no more sex scenes. No, you do the phrase remove. I bring it up all the time because I think about tattooing your wife's name.

above your genitals so that you think about your partner every time you put it in somebody. I just don't think that. First of all, I'm not like looking at my own belly when I'm fucking... Your gunch? Yeah, I'm not looking at my gunch ever when I'm fucking. Yeah, if anything, you're punishing the other person. Yeah, if anything you should put it on them. Yeah, every person you cheat on has to get tattooed the name before you fuck them.

Carry your little temporary tattoos. Yeah, little temporary. Oh, that's cute. Here, my wife makes me do this so that I can come and you. you. No, there's, this tweet is that the one theory is, it's not that he's doing some weird regressive sex,

anti-sex thing, it's that this is like Hollywood code for I cheated and now I'm on a short leash. The other main theory, though, and this really is a thing that I have noticed on TikTok and Twitter and has also been written about. I just had the story.

There was an actual New York Times piece this week about how every generation, every gender is having less sex. And also Gen Z is having much less sex than previous generations. And there is a lot of conversation on TikTok. I don't know if you see this on your TikTok, Jackie, but about like sex scenes and movies. There's like, I don't want to speak for all Gen Z. I know we have Gen Z listeners.

I would love to hear from people about this. But it seems like there is at least a sizable contingent of young people who feel like not in, like who are icked out by sex scenes and movies. and there's this like, to me, baffling, I find it a little bit regressive discourse of like a sex scene in a movie is like not consensual for the viewer. Which I... But it says in the beginning, like, even in the rating, it says if there's a sex scene.

Now, shut up, now. That's the agreement. You're like, okay, that is a part of this that I'm about to watch. Yes. I could not agree more. Maybe just TV and movies aren't for you. Maybe you need... And it's Hayes Code.

It's like, you really want to... bring back a time where you weren't allowed to show sex on screen, but there is... It's so weird. And I don't mean to be dismissive, reductive. Again, if you can speak to this, email us. I would love to hear more about it, but there's these... And one of the ideas is that it's not... Email in J.

Email media. I'll forward it to them. Don't worry. I'll make sure they see this yet. Just say not for old. Say not for old. That it's not consensual for the viewer. And also, there's, I've seen people say that it's like, they don't like it

because they don't, they're afraid that the actors. that it's not consensual for the actors. It's just, again, this is why we have intimacy coordinators. Yeah, it's comes so far from where it used to be. Right. Now it is, it's, it's, it's choreography. It is essentially a different kind of dance motion because every single step is talked out now,

as opposed to what it used to be where like you watch old sex scenes and movies, you're like, oh, you're just slamming away at their mid torso. Yeah, or like the extremely stiff kisses from like movies in the 1950s where it's just like obviously either this leading man like didn't really like women or he just didn't really like this woman you know what do you mean i love it when they hold their neck hostage yeah and you're like i'm gonna kiss you they're clenched jaw well they kiss you know i love jean kelly but he was not a great on screen kisser but yeah this pen badgely thing is truly a head scratcher like it is acting it is art you don't have to like art is not meant

to only show you things that are like nice and great, you know? Like, the whole premise of you is that it's really like uncomfortable and weird. And some people don't even like the whole premise of you and think that that's, that it's kind of fucked up to make serial killing sexy. Yes. Some people don't like the premise of you.

So that's the whole thing too. Is that, so you're fine with the, with the violence towards other people. That is fine. Especially this show. Yeah. Right? Well, if he killed someone on a,

his wife, maybe she would say no more of the killing scenes, but he fucked around with someone on his wife. So, like, you have more issue with the sex scenes than the violence, like, that happens. Yeah. I can't imagine. That's America. That's the history of this country, though. I can't imagine asking a partner, if that that is the truth, right?

I can't imagine asking a partner to do that. My partner who, like, this is, your job is to pretend. Yeah. You're an actor. Your job is to do fake things. And to tell like messy, complicated, like, I think that there was actually a interesting critique of you that was like, this is like overlay and fear and violence with sex in a way that is maybe. Hold it. I keep saying, why are you reading critiques about this, MJ?

That really hurts my feelings that you would do that. But like, of course there's interesting things to. be said about the juxtaposition of sex and violence that happens in you, the idea of being like, no, I as an actor won't do any intimacy because it's not fair to my wife. Like, if I cannot imagine wanting that for my partner if my partner was a performer. Can you imagine what a box to put someone inside of, or I guess not. Hey! They're like eating box and fucking box.

Why do I just feel like it's a direct one to one though? This is all alleged, by the way, we're like making up facts about pit bad. Ashley's relationship with his wife and is cheating. But I feel like you almost take it a step further. And it's like he had one of those sex scenes with one of those actors. And then from that, they either had a physical or emotional or whatever cheating connection thing go down. So literally it's like you can't do this anymore because like that actually happened.

And that did happen to Brad and Angelina, right? People have followed and love. That happened to Brad Angelina. Justin Timberlake and what's her name? holding hands the New Orleans. Nalans. You know what I mean? Get that Naulands heat.

Ooh, that spicy Nolans. Finger, finger-banging. Does Nolans make you horny? I feel like it makes you more like... It's a weird horny. Like drunk and full. No, no. There's a weird, dark, evil horniness happening.

Oh, God, why don't I live in Nolns? Dude, because you can't stay there, bro. Yeah. Yes, it's so horny. It's so sexy and the filthiest, like, fun is wet. I've never been. I want to go. Yeah, there's seductress.

Oh, it's so good. It's tough. It's like, you know how we ate our way through Texas? Yeah. You also eat your way through New Orleans, so it's hard to be like so full but also so turned on, you know? So turned on. Wow.

Oh, my God. I've never been so seduced by a city before. Right. You haven't even been there. I will say Henry has told me if you ever go to New Orleans, I'm worried that I'll never see you ever again. Yeah. You're going to be taken in by it.

I think it might be the most interesting city that I've ever been to in the United States, like, for sure. I think it's, it's unlike anywhere else. I haven't been that many places in the United States, I guess, but I think it is unlike anywhere else in the United States. Oh, way agree with you. It is one of a kind unique. It's one of those spots. It's like, there's not that many of them, right? It's like there. What else? New York City, right? Yeah. That's one of a kind unique. Austin felt that way, like for sure. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now, there's nothing unique about this, except for how much my loins do slip and slide, but I guess that's not unique to me. And yes, I am talking about Michael Keaton being brought as Batman in the most, like the worst way possible.

Yeah. Okay, you guys know, I am such a, like, light. Hashtag light nerd girl. I'm not all the way there. I can never pretend. If there's one thing you need to know about me is I want to fuck. Michael Keaton Batman. I love Michael Keaton Batman.

It's why I was in love with every version of him in multiplicity. There is just something about Michael Keaton that I want to crawl inside of. As the vulture in the Spider-Man movies as well. He's great as a villain too. Yes, he's just amazing

in many different ways. Fuck you, DC Universe. We're putting him in the new Flash movie when you won't get rid of Ezra Miller. I'm so fucking mad about this because we watched the trailer for it and they looked at Jeff and I was like, I'm sorry, but like I have to put the kibod, like we can't go see this movie. Yeah.

It has Michael Keaton Batman in it and we can't go see this movie. Fuck you, DC Universe. Take Ezra Miller out. Break the contracts. I don't understand. It's so strange. Why hasn't that happened? It's just contract stuff?

I guess. But also what I don't understand is. that now they're just like, yeah, but don't you understand they are getting help for their complex mental illnesses? What's so complex about grooming and kidnapping indigenous minors? Yeah. Oh, can you come back from that? Like, I don't, I'm so mad about this. And like, they could have done almost anything, but the fact that they put Michael Keaton Batman in it.

Why do they have to put Michael Keaton in it? I think it's kind of funny because aren't they just kind of doing the thing that Marvel did with the Spider-Man movie? Yeah, it's like a multiverse thing, right? Yeah. Yeah, he goes back in time, like he runs back in time because he's got to save his mom. Like, that's the thing. The movie looks great. Take Ezra Miller out of it.

I really, I know that I know nothing about money or a contract. Like, I know nothing. I mean, I don't know what their plans are for him for the future, whatever is going on with that whole. story, but it's interesting. I think James Gunn's... All right, all right, look at it a little bit from James Gunn. I'm not saying this is... Hit me, like, please. I'm not... I'm not stubborn to

explain to me what... I'm almost afraid to speak towards it in a way because I just feel like... You're not supporting it, but just... Yeah, and a hypothetical where the star of a franchise, which people... I don't think people have that strong an attachment to Ezra Miller the way that they do to like Toby McGuire or something as,

you know, as Spider-Man. Also, the Army Hammer documentary about him has not happened. The big, like, everyone knows who knows. Everyone in our, yeah, it's actually weirdly niche. And I think that we're like underestimating how little people actually care in general about this kind of thing at this point. And there's, hey, look at the fucking wizard game. I mean, there is just like an insane amount of people who don't even know the controversy surrounding it who are playing that game. You know what I mean?

And I think a lot of people now expect everyone to just know all this stuff. I feel like it's all in line of work. So we just come in just knowing everything. I think from James Gunn's perspective, he's just trying to like make this massive fucking crazy cinematic universe thing happen for this company. They're already trying to like kind of wipe it all clean and start anew anyways. This is one of the last movies coming out that is from the old guard essentially. but he keeps saying like this movie doesn't talk about Ezra Miller but he keeps saying on Twitter

he's like I think this movie's incredible. The movie looks incredible. It's so upsetting because the trailer looks cool as shit. He's also the kind of guy that he was canceled for a while and then was brought back so I think he has a different type of viewpoint

when it comes to the act of canceling. And then also recently it was someone else had viewpoints about the Vax scene that people were really upset about that's a part of the DCU. And he literally said like, I can't be bothered to like alter my

cinematic universe just because someone said something I don't agree with. And you know what I mean? That's understandable. Asher takes a step further with the kidnapping of indigenous people. I have to believe that at least they are actually genuinely trying to work their bullshit out and that hopefully

they can try to make right the wrongs of the past. But I think we're getting to a point where people are definitely open to, like, limiting or stopping things based on the actions of people, Kanye. I'm looking at you, Kanye. Nazis are bad, dude. Oh, God. It's 2023, you got to save. You know what I mean?

But I think there's other things where people are like, you know what, we've got to keep this moving. We can't let this slow us down. And from a producer perspective, if there's not a will to do this mix-up, I think you're right, Hold on. I think that there is not a massive, it's not a Harvey Weinstein situation in terms of like a kind of massive unification around Ezra Miller. It is still just like a, like even when the people I was watching the Super Bowl with were like, wait, what's Ezra Miller's deal? You know, like it's not really that well-known. And maybe if it becomes more well-known, that's when the producers step in and make changes and say, you know, Army Hammer, you've got to stop eating them women, buddy.

You got to stop eating them. And of course, you can say it's not well known because of the people that that are Miller is victimizing. And, you know, I think that there's, it's not, I think that what you're saying is right, and it doesn't mean it's morally right. But I think it's right. Yes. And I'm not even saying I think it's right.

No, of course. Of course. Yeah. I appreciate you providing that perspective because from my perspective, I just, I feel like just a big, dumb idiot where I'm like, I don't get why. Why? Right. Why?

You're not a big dumb idiot. You're a small dumb idiot. Oh, thanks. You're welcome. Oh, my God. I never get complimented my whole. Look at you. You tiny little, tiny little one.

I'm so teeny wee. Put me in your pocket. Oh, big a tiny morrow. That's the second tiny dancer reference I've made on the show. I guess I'm in an Elton mood. I guess I'm listening to the Elton. Go listen to some Elton. Wow.

Is there a conspiracy theory about Elton? John today? Absolutely newt. Should there be? No, I don't know. I don't think so. No, no. Today's it's about Disney animatronics, but we'll get there.

Oh, man. Is this because of Jason Dorolo? I wish it was. Now you're making me feel like I should do a Elton John Jason Derrillo conspiracy. Yeah, because of the two of them. No, no, I was just thinking about, which actually, if you want to listen to Holden and I talk about Jason

Dorillo and the robot dogs that he performed with, you can definitely check out us over on Patreon with our new show called The Leftovers. That's right. I provide a bunch of articles every week, and there are oftentimes multiple articles that we don't get to. So Holden and I are going to start doing The Leftovers over on patreon.com slash page 7 podcast, and you can come listen to us Jabber on about that.

Yeah, it's a fun idea we came up with as a way to counter because it looks like Jackie and MJ also have something in the works for more bonus content on Patreon. We'll have more on that later, but it's TV-oriented. So we decided to maybe switch gears on what Jackie and I do and make it more of a post show, and I'm really excited about it because there are so many articles we never get to every single week. Many of them are about mayonnaise. Yeah, many are about mayonnaise.

Or, yeah, Mayo Nog, man, I included a lot of Mayo Nog articles that weren't getting enough play. We heard flip-flops and all sorts of stuff. And even celeb news that we just don't have time for. Speaking of which, we're already way behind on getting to the celebrity. conspiracy, hit me with the share. Do you believe it? Is Trump's Disney World animatronic

actually Hillary? What? That's right. This theory came about in 2017. In the Hall of Presidents? First of all, go ahead and look up Trump Hall of Presidents and you will I think maybe see a potential

resemblance. Man, I loved going to the Hall of Presidents because you could always go there and get, oh, God. You could always go there and get some air conditioning. It is idiot. Second of all, if you squintuitive, you can see the Hillary. Oh yeah. Fuck you, Donald Trump.

I love how ugly is fucking animatronic is. This theory came about in 2017 when we all realized hell was real and we were living in it. Shannon on Twitter wrote, hear me out on this. Clearly Disney had Hillary's robot ready to go and then they had to try

and make it look like Trump. Don't hate me. This is just a necessary and painful fact we all need to deal with. Upon further investigation from Snopes, which did not debunk this theory, by the way. That's kind of a big piece of...

Who did not die? From the very beginning, the appearance of the animatronic robot representing former U.S. President Donald Trump at Walt Disney World's Hall of Presidents at the Magic Kingdom in Orlando has been controversial in one way or another. Some thought the statue's face resembled Trump's 2016 political rival Hillary Clinton. Thus, the rumor was born that Disney, expecting Clinton to prevail in the 2016 election, had built a Clinton robot only to hastily repurpose it. after Trump won.

Also from Snopes, there was also a petition signed by nearly 3,400 fans demanding that Disney redo the statute because it looked like, quote, Hillary Clinton with a wig on. I get it. Also, also from Snopes, we reached out to Disney with questions about the display and will update if we receive a response. The Hall of Presidents is currently closed as Disney refurbishes the attraction and adds a new animatronic figure of U.S. President Joe Biden. so there you have it.

I mean, you need to stop what you're driving. Don't do it. But if you're not driving, you need to look it up right now. Just Google Trump all of presidents. This is a clearly a well-established conspiracy theory because there's a lot of side-by-sides right there of the terrifying robots face next to Hillary Clinton. And I got to say, I'm not sure who it's more insulting to.

I know. Yeah. Like this is deeply insulting to Hillary Clinton. If this was meant to be her, perhaps worse. I think it is worse for Hillary if this was meant to be here. Oh, yes, because fuck Donald Trump. So also I would at least want to give a, I'm looking at. I think it's her, man.

I'm looking at the side by side. I think it's her repurpose. And the reason why it looks so grotesque is they like messed with it a little bit and deformed it a little bit. Yeah. And that's why it looks so grotesque. But you can tell, especially, yeah, that one look where he's looking up and kind of frowning, it's very, I think that's totally supposed to be Hillary. You want a fucking monster. It's so scary.

It doesn't look like him. I'm so glad it doesn't look like it. It doesn't look like him. It does look, and I think they just kind of jushed it up by giving him an ill-fitting suit, you know, and the hair. But it does look, it does look like her. It's also, I never noticed how much they look alike in an objective if you're making a robot way, you know, same color hair.

I will also say, but the breasts do resemble Trumps. So I think that that, that, is accurate. The breasts are accurate. Yeah. There you go. Do you believe? I believe. I believe. I definitely believe. Amazing. Wow. I believe. That was a legit one. That wasn't even an email.

That was one I just kind of like popped up somewhere. Wow. I could come up with my own. I love the idea of conservatives like going to the hall of presidents at Disney World and being like, this does not honor Trump. The petition, right? It's too ugly. The idea of the petition is so funny to me. I'm so annoyed by it already.

the people. They're all like storming a building type people and they're so mad about it. And they all think he's handsome. It's like part of the interesting Trump thing is that like Trump people, a lot of Trump people think he's like a very good looking man. How can you see past the meme when they take his mouth and they put his mouth over his eyeballs? That's all I can think of every time I look at president or ex-president Trump. Yes. I forgot about that one. I think about men storming a building and stealing government profits. I think about that. No, just think about his mouth as his eyeballs. That nice.

Makes you want to put him back into whatever hell he came from. That nice. He just sort of had to go away. Who knows, though? Maybe he'll come back real soon as the elections come around the corner. Oh, God, I can't believe we have to hear about him again. I can't. Well, there you go.

Open up a whole can of worms. All right, Jackie. That we're all upset. No. Who's on the list? Daddy, got to have that list. Actors who turned down roles, they found offensive, uncomfortable, or a better fit for someone else to play. Zendaya dropped out of Lifetime's biopic, Elia, the Princess of R&B after the project, sorry, my, I pop up, popped up, so then it went away.

But you said biopic. Yes, yeah, no, biopic. Alia, because the thing popped up, it was a whole thing. Alia, the Princess of R&B, after the project received backlash from the late Singer's family. On Twitter, the actor said she was honored to portray Aaliyah

and pay tribute to her, but if she's going to do it, she wants to do it right. So I appreciate the fact that Zendaya, like, moved back because the singer's family was like, nah, I don't think that this is a good fit.

She told MTV, I just felt the project wasn't 100% there. I feel that production-wise, everything just felt a little rushed, and I think because she's someone I admire and love so much, it can't be done halfway, or not to the standards I think it should be done at. So I just decided not to do it.

You know, it's been such a good indicator lately of, like, dog shit biopics and good biopics. If the family, if the people and connected are fucking pissed, I'm looking at you, Gucci. I'm looking at you, Pam and Tommy. If they're fucking pissed about it and have no connection, the soul of the project will be missing oftentimes, I bet. Totally. Same with the Dahmer thing. I know that's not exactly a biopic, but similarly, like, if the family.

If the family is like, please don't. Like, cool for the actors to listen to that. Yeah. Now, similarly, Will Ferrell backed out of Reagan, a planned comedy about Ronald Reagan experiencing Alzheimer's-induced dementia while in office after the film received criticism from both the late president's children and the Alzheimer's Association. I would have loved to see it, but it is so clearly problematic. Yeah, I can't believe that ever got past like a suggestion.

in a Slack message. I can't believe somebody was like, no, not that. Don't do that. But also, that could have made one of the most, like, cult, classic, iconic, incredible things ever. But good on him. Great, smart choice, for sure. I'm very glad.

I definitely agree with that. That decision. I am very glad. I am very glad. I'm very glad. Right. Why don't we just do, like, him trying to be an actor or whatever? Like, that would actually be funnier to me, right?

Like him being in Hollywood and all that. Or the blowjob queen stuff or whatever that stuff. Yeah. bio pick about the throat goat. Yeah, right? Original throat. The original throat goat. Nancy Reagan.

Now, this makes so much sense. About three days, which I had no idea that Robin Williams was supposed to be the voice of Howard the Duck. Oh, wow. About three days into his role as the titular character's voice in Howard the Duck, Robin Williams quit out of frustration because he was being handcuffed in order to match the flapping duck's bill. So the puppet's mouth movements had already been. in film. Oh, that's not the way to do that.

To match the puppeteer's bland delivery of the lines, essentially rendering the comedian's iconic improvisational style impossible. Oh, wow. Yes. You got to animate around Robin. You can't. Yeah. No, yeah.

That doesn't make any sense. So if you're already trapped in that, that makes, it also makes a lot more sense of why it is such a dead pan delivery. I'm so surprised that they did the puppetry before recording the lines. Yeah, that makes, that's. like also antithetical to like the spirit of puppetry which is about this like beautiful give and take between the puppet and the voice you know like yeah weird so weird but did you know that amelia clark declined the role of anastasia steel in 50 shades of gray she said the last time that

i was naked on camera on game of thrones was a long time ago and yet it is the only question that i ever get asked because i'm a woman she was sick and tired of the questions because she did it for the character. And I also completely understand that. And this is so different than the Penn Badgley thing, right? Because I feel like the Penn Badgley thing is like, oh, I don't want to do sex scenes because I, because of like this weird marital fidelity thing, whereas being like, oh, I don't want to do this movie because I don't want to like be cast in this particular kind of like objectifying

sex way is something to me that is. I understand right. This is what I hate about entertainment press. They're so vapid and boring and like lame. And they think they're being like on the. asking her about that scene, right? And it's, no, it's the last hundred gross dudes asked her about that scene.

It's not interesting, like, move on. And that's so awful that she can't, like, pick roles because she doesn't want to deal with that guy. You know that guy, right? You see those, like, press runs that they all have to do, or they have to sit with a million of those moron people that couldn't get, like, a cooler job in entertainment. So they just, like, go in and, you know,

they write for some dumb entertainment magazine or something like that. And I'm talking about you, Richard. Listen to this right now. Talking about you, Richard. We were just talking about this. I was talking about this with Eddie because we were talking about how it was so exciting at first

when Pedro Pascal was referred to as a daddy. And there's that one, I think it's a Vogue interview where he's like, I'm a daddy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you can call me a daddy. Like when it first started. Yeah. And now every single interviewer is like, so do you consider yourself a daddy?

Like they are the most like, like no one has ever heard it. Like, yeah, we get it. We already did this. We already had, we have the thirst. You don't need to keep, like, nailing it over the head again and again. It's not funny or different. And it's so easy for these people.

Like, Pedro Baskill has to sit and get interviewed, like, 100 times, you know, in preparation for a thing coming out, right? And it's exhausting and draining. And on the other side of that, it's so easy for these fucking vapid morons to just go online and look up, like, five different interviews with him. and see the questions that he constantly gets asked and not ask them. Don't ask those. But they literally don't put the worry.

They just show up and they're just like, what's on the docket today? I was up fucking late last night drinking toddies with Lottie. You know what I mean? Tadis with Lottie. Can I be Lottie? Can I pretend to be Lottie for the night? Yeah, sure.

You can pretend to be Lottie. You just got to go, oh, oh! I have a toddy. Wow, laughing Lottie. She just laughs and laughs and laughs. She doesn't even know what she's laughing at. Well, Ann Hathaway turned down the roll.

of Allison Scott and knocked up because she was worried about how her future self might feel about the explicit birth scene. Having not experienced motherhood myself, I didn't know how it was going to feel on the other side about giving birth. And by the way, I could pop out a kid and think, oh well, I really should have done that movie. And I appreciate that too. But now, MJ is someone that has given birth, would you feel complicated doing something like this? I keep reading this quote over and over. I don't know if I understand exactly what she feels ambivalent about. I guess she just feels

like this is some sort of like really important experience that she didn't want to... Or maybe it's like a privacy thing that she didn't like how explicit the scene was and maybe that like she thought that people would look down on the fact that she was doing this and not knowing what it feels like to actually give...

Yeah. I don't... I can't tell if this is a like, oh, that's an experience I can't portray because I haven't had that experience yet, which I I don't really know what to say about this one. It sounds, I mean, also I feel like Catherine Hegel is such a, is so associated with that role now. It's hard to even imagine it being Anne Hathaway, you know?

It just reminded me of her and how she just ruined her own career by being a bitch. Well, yeah, she seemed to have only been like, I'll just be the bitch everyone hates in every movie, you know. By the way, I totally get what Anne Hathaway is talking about. I mean, I have a lot of concerns about my own future self. He keeps showing up and screaming at me about some war of that. the androids. I don't know what's going on.

And I'm just like, I don't know how to help you. He's like, you've got to unplug that. And then it always is it going to start in the hall of presidency thing? Might be. Maybe that's the sign. Maybe that's the symbol. He's like, look for the symbol. You have to unplug that.

And then he always goes, ah! And he gets sucked into this portal. Maybe this is Anne Hathaway's politely just being like, I just didn't really want to do it. And I came up with a weird excuse not doom. Right. You know, I wanted to give this role to Catherine Heigle, who is typecast as the bitch which everyone hates in every movie from about 2007 until about 2015. Now, again, this is a quote from, I'm going to assume, many years ago.

Jack Nicholson rejected the role of Michael Corleone in The Godfather because he believed that Indians should play Indians, and Italians should play Italians. And I will say... Interesting. That's weirdly woke for Jack Nicholson for back when the Godfather was being made. Everyone's like, the way you said it, it could be updated a bit, but a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. He might be talking about, you know, like a Gandhi movie.

Yeah, he could be talking about people from India. That's true. Lord knows. I'm not going to give Jack Nicholson the benefit of the doubt, but I will say it was probably said at least 40 years ago. Oh, he's friends with Lord? And I heard she's working on a new album. All right, people?

Come on, everybody. Oh, so I'm the TV show? Yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm not in a TV show at Netflix, Jackie. You could be a whole TV show. show. I don't even know. Lily Allen rejected a Game of Thrones role as Yara Greyjoy, the sister of her real life brother, Alfie's character, Theon, because of an incestuous storyline.

Oh, she should have done it. That's interesting. I get it. I'd have been really cool. I have, I have auditioned as a love interest for Henry, like a disgusting love interest once. Wow. And even then when I did it, I was like, I don't know. I'm yucked out. Like, it wasn't a character where they like touch at all. But still, I was like, I'm like, oh, wouldn't that be so funny? I'm like, what it? Not Henry, the cast to people. I was like, would it be?

I don't know. I think I'm with Lily Allen in this one and I understand where she's coming from. Yeah, no, you don't want to do that. Again, it is acting. To go back to the pen magic conversation, it is acting, but you can throw online. But there's boundaries that you can definitely keep. Yeah, yeah. And finally, Amanda Seafreed declined to play Gamora in Guardians of the Galaxy because she did.

didn't want to be green. Additionally, after doing wirework for pan, she was uncomfortable doing stunts. I can, I get, talk about understanding because what a chore it is. I just remember, I remember when Henry was doing your pretty face and having to be painted red every day. And he didn't even really complain about it, but it took so long to do every day for, to, to shoot, and then have to have it taken off. that adds hours to your shoot day.

So I completely understand where she's coming from with this one. Yeah. Then you're Amanda Safrey, do you have the right to just be like, not this awesome movie. I'll just do a different awesome movie. That's the thing. In a way, you're like, oh, man, she missed out on a lot. And it's just like, she's fine.

Yeah, she'll be fine. She's doing fine. All right, when I'm not doing very fine at all, I think I'm going. Blind! I don't! I can't see them! This could be the death knell of the marriage. The A-list, everything in her mind, celebrity tries to make sure.

there are, quote, healthier coffees available for her husband because she doesn't like him making runs to his favorite coffee place. She usually ends up spinning that extra dollar if you know what I mean. Oh, no. J-Lo and Bafle. That's right. She's putting the duck high vash on the Dunkin' Donuts. Oh, J-Lo. How dare you?

How dare you? Too much cream, I guess. Too much cream. He needs to be creaming her, if you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And putting this dirty penis cream all over her. That is what you mean. I don't get it.

That is what you mean. The blind links to a headline. The blind links to a headline titled Bit Afflegg looks somber as he steps out for a coffee in Santa Monica after her wife, Jennifer Lopez, snapped at him at the Gramies during an eyebrow-raising outing. I mean, come on. She's from New York. Duncan is, I know it's a Boston thing, but I assume that Duncan was also a. staple, you know, on the block in her youth. Come on. Is she too uptight for Duncan? Of course she is, MJ. And Ben is loose and sad. He lets it all hang out and he's sad about it.

And he needs to his Duncan because you know what? I've got my five guys. I've abstained since February began. I haven't eaten out at all since February began. Wow. Focus February. I went to lunch with February once, but I bet fine. I saw. Whoa. Yeah, look at that little evil love. Was it Chipotle? But I get it. No, it was Chipie.

It was Jinkies. Oh. But anyways. So, oh, yeah, I had, oh, there was avocado. I would have California avocado chicken sandwiches. It was whatever. Whoa. But I get it.

Growing jinkies under the bus. I've got my Burger King. You know, you've got to have, that is depression meals. You need that in your life. You've got to have your go-to sadness pick up. And that's what it is for Ben. He likes his Dunkin' Donuts. He's a Boston boy.

Let him get his Dunkie. Let him get his Dunkie's. Come on. She said the theory now is that she said that look more, look motivated at the Grammys. Look motivated. Well, they hired a lip reader at like the Daily Post or the New York Coast or whatever. Good Lord. And it said like look motivated, pick it, kind of pick it up.

Like, hey, come on. Like get some energy. Get some jazz. it just sounded, and by the way, it didn't even sound like he was just like they were having marital problems. So a seat filler talked about it, actually. This is an article, Jaggyzint, and they talked about how, like, they actually seemed very in love. They were, like, holding hands the whole time. He was just exhausted from doing a shitload of events and then had to go to the Grammys.

Like, you know what it's like to have to go to some event and you're like at the end of your rope, and all you want to be doing is laying in bed, like, you know, recouping the energy and everything. I can't imagine. Totally. But also, how relatable is it to be the partner with spring? Look, motivated. You know, so Jackie said this last yesterday. We never see me.

Or we snap at our partner. But we've also had a moment where it's like, can you look like you're having fun? Like you're enjoying this. Just smile at all. Like, it's so easy. Anyways, strange hookups. This now dead A-LIS singer and this A-List director of the same sex, the A-List director is known for filth on film. The singer is one of the greatest of all time.

Whitney Houston. No, the singer is a man and the director is a filthy man. The director is one of my favorite directors. Paul De Hogan? No, he makes like be like real filthy. Desparneau? No, like he's campy as hell. Cronenberg.

John Waters. Yes, John Waters. And the man, this is a fun hookup, guys. The dude, he's, hey, he's rash, and eyes of money dresses open. David Bowie. Yeah, dude. Oh. David Bowie John Waters.

I love that. I watch that tape. I watch that tape anytime. Wow, it's not fun. That is very fun. And last one, the singing actress knows Broadway is one thing, but if she wants to move back up the ladder, she's going to have to give people on her side again. She is trying, but does not seem very genuine, especially when you hear stories about how she's currently acting out.

It is all the same as ever, never been. Liam Michelle. She was recently made an appearance on The Daily Show with Chelsea Handler was hosting. There was an article about how there was no mention of any of the controversies. They just, like, didn't acknowledge any of it, which is kind of ridiculous because it's like all this stuff has come out about her being awful to her castmates, being really, like, racist and gross. And she's just trying to, like, scoot back over to TV land and movie land. and kind of doing a George Costanza showing back up to work, like as if nothing happened, you know what I mean? A little bit, yeah.

So I don't think it's going to work, Leah, but good luck to you. Yeah, I don't think it's going to reclaim it. She's trying to be like, ha-ha-ha, I can't read. No, nobody thinks it's fun when you do it. It's only fun when we do it. Yeah, we like doing it because you're hateable and that's fun to do, okay? Maybe I'll feel bad about it later, but right now, I'm the popular girl and you can snooze and you can lose.

Yeah. You can snooze and you can lose. That's it. I can see again. Oh my God. Welcome back. Let's get the fuck out of here, dude. MJ's got to go to a child three-year-old.

School Day, Valentine's party. Oh, my God. So I've got to go. All right. Well, thank you guys so much for hanging out with us today on page seven. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. You can follow us on TikTok on page 7 LPN.

And go ahead and check out. big jacky.com. Yes, all of the designs are made by Jeff currently, and we are taking submissions for other designs, and I'm really excited for working on it, but I definitely get yourself a fuck-it hat. Get a fucking hat, bro. I immediately purchased one because I was so excited. It was like, you made my dream become a reality.

And then I kissed him, and I kissed him, and I kissed him. She loves it so much, she's not wearing one. Interesting. I have to have cans on. I literally have my bucket hat sitting on the table. I have a leopard-brid, frid, fuzzy bucket hat. I have to have cans on so I can't fit that. Now I'm trying to fit the hat over the mic and the headphones.

She's doing it. Check me out. Holden-N-a-so on Twitter. I'm taking a picture, and I'm going to post it after this. Sounds like we need to have Jeff design a bucket hat that you can set over the cans. Yeah, you've got to make a podcaster bucket hat. I've got first or a little of its kind. Hold-n-a-soe on tour. Twitch. I'm streaming right now. I'm on, and today will be 16 days in a row of streaming.

I think I'm going to take that all the way to the end of the month and close out. I'm hoping to close out with a big marathon stream. So you got to come watch. So, dude, seven days a week. I'm fucking streaming these days, guys. Come catch me. Also, page 7 podcast at gmail.com. Page the numeral 7 podcast, gmail.com, even though I think maybe Jackie set it up so that if you hit page seven, like the word, the number, what, the word, it'll still forward to us. Page 7 Podcasts at Gmail.com. And then also Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash page 7

podcasts for $5 a month. You're getting an insane amount of bonus content now when Jackie and MJ start doing this extra show. We got ad free episodes. Jackie does a chapter for the book. There's such a fucking great value add to this

Patreon right now. Patreon.com forward slash page 7 podcast. Join us for the $10 layer on Discord for our weekly Thursday. Watch along. We're now watching through Flave of Love. Flav of Love. Come join us. It is just as atrocious as you think it is.

It's great. MJ? My name is MJ and I'm MJ K-L-Kat on Instagram. All right. There you go. Sing the song. Shout, shout, let it all out. These are the emails that you wrote it about.

Come on. We're going to read them to you. Come on. Thank you. much for sending in your shoutouts to page seven podcast at gmail.com. And yes, now you can send the emails to page seven podcast, seven the number or seven the word, either one. And we'll get it, page seven podcast at gmail.com. And thank you guys so much for always thinking about us, sending us love. And it's such a wonderful community that we've built here. And I just love you guys more and more

every week, as if that's even possible. I will say I've already cried to one of them, cried a lot and had to call Jeff at work. So prepare yourself. But first, we've got some fun ones. In fact, so fun that a new holiday has been created. And I just want to say thank you so much, Des, for sending this in, especially for, I think it actually makes sense that it's on Galentine's Day, your newfound holiday. Des says, as the creators and founders of April Reels Day, I wanted to share with y'all a new holiday my boss and I created this week that I think the page seven family would appreciate. This month, we've both cut ties and ended relationships with people in our lives who were unstable, emotionally draining, and took from us without giving back.

We enjoy celebrating love and positive relationships in our lives on February 14th, but we want to start a new holiday on February, 13th, boundary times day. A day where we can set boundaries with people and relationships in our lives that need parameters. So I wanted to wish my favorite podcasting trio and all your listeners, a happy Valentine's and a happy boundary times. Much love, Des. Thank you so much for sending this in. I love hearing people creating good, healthy boundaries. It's so difficult to start. It's so to stick to. But man, when you have the love and support of the people around you, uh, anything is possible. Happy boundary times to you, Des. And happy boundary times to you all. Moving on, we are talking to Chloe today. Chloe has a self shout out. You don't want to

a self shout out. Chloe says, I'm writing in to give myself a big shout out. Because as I'm typing this, I have been 34 days. sober. It's a huge step for me finally getting my life back together. I have a wonderful new job where I am respected, trusted, and loved, and I'm also about to graduate college in March. I love y'all so much in listening to you, MJ and Holden, as well as those tray spooky boys. Weekly has been pivotal to me keeping my sanity. Keep bringing the weird conspiracies, especially the fish-based ones, and being totally excellent, y'all. You too, Chloe, so much love. to you and congratulations. You got this shit. The beginning is the hardest. You can keep going. I'm so

proud of you. Now we're moving on to another shout out to a fiancé from our mermaid queen. They say, I'd like to do a shout out to my fiance, Jeremy. We've had a tough start to the new year. At the beginning of January, his mother passed away. She was funny, smart, and raised the man I can't wait to marry. Her name was Jackie too, by the way. That's my name. Jeremy introduced me to LPN when we used to drive 45 minutes to the beach every morning to work in a tiny barbecue shack. We had a crappy stick shift hondo with no AC in the Alabama sun. Looking back, just riding with him listening to you guys scream about murder, I wouldn't trade it for the world. We listen to all the shows and I just love you all. Send my wolfman some love forever at your mermaid queen. P.S. Happy Mardi Gras, and also, full disclosure, Mermaid Queen. You are fabulous at writing these things. Don't you say horrible things about my friend? I thought you did a great job. Now, I do want to say, Jen, I appreciate you giving me the heads up in the subject line of the email. And I do appreciate that. And I was able to, like, guard myself. And I just want to send so much love to you. I am going to cry during this one. But all of these tears are for you and to keep supporting you, Jen, through my ears and through my arms, because I'm hugging you right now. This shout out goes out to you guys.

Last May, my husband died in a car accident. He was only 30. He was the best man and husband in the entire world. He was sweet, so talented, and we loved each other so much. We told each other we loved each other. million times a day. It's been so hard moving forward without the person I've had with me since high school. I've been forced to live through so many milestones as a 33-year-old widow, and it fucking sucks. I couldn't listen to music, we're both musicians, but also couldn't sit in silence

either. It was and still is pretty awful. We both loved podcasts so much. We listened at page 7 and last podcast on the left on long car rides a lot. The first thing I could manage to listen to was page 7. Today is Valentine's Day and February 4th was his birthday. He should have been 31. We should be going on a trip or drinking beers. Instead, he's gone and I'm crying listening to page 7 to make me feel better, or at least a little bit. I just want to say thank you for all giving me this show to escape into. You guys are the best and have helped me more than you could ever know. Also, shout out to my husband, Drake. I love you and miss you so much, and I always will. Love Jen. Jen, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for sharing this with us, and thank you for feeling

vulnerable and sharing this very difficult time that you're going through because other people are going through difficult times as well, and maybe it will make them feel better knowing that you're not alone and they're not alone and I just want to say thank you for sharing this with our community. And I'm sorry that I cried through it. But again, thank you for the heads up that it was going to be sad. And I love you and I appreciate you. And I appreciate all of you guys for sending in your shoutouts. Even when they're sad. You know I love to feel. You know that I love this connection. This is what humanity is about. I won't start screaming about. that. I love y'all.

Ugh, just like not that long ago, you know, Holden's screaming about, Lord knows what. And then I'm crying. You know, what a range of, what a spectrum of emotions you get from page seven. I love you guys.

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