Page 7 - Ep. 492: Generational Nut

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

This week we're gossin' 'bout dusty, old, ancient 79-year-old Robert De Niro welcoming his 7th child into the world (hopefully his open gender discrimination lawsuit comes to a close soon!), Tom Cruis...e lookin' like he's ready to jump on a couch about Fishkira (ShaFishra? idk), all that DRAMAAAA about T. Swift dating what appears to be the human manifestation of a 2005 4Chan post as well as the BAD BLOOD between Swift and a specific security guard, is Batfleck broody or just a pissfaceboi? OR COULD IT BE BOTH?, and in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner; Are Nick LaSHAMES fans fake (with ON AIR CONFIRMATION)!? And a list of ridiculous demands put on celebrities and blindz SO famous they don't NEED a subject line! Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser are going on TOUR! Dates and links to tickets at lastpodcastnetwork.com Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hey guys, page 7 and Wizard and the Brewser are going on tour. Yes, the release that butthole cut tour. Holden, where are we going? That's right. Starting in June, we are going to Portland, Oregon, Tacoma, Washington, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, and St. Louis, Missouri. Where can we get tickets, MJ? For tickets, go to Last Podcast Network.com.
Starting point is 00:00:22 What's that one more time? That's Last Podcast Network.com. Yeah. Noice. And ain't my phone the juice, baby. It ain't my fault that I'm out here making news. I'm not putting in the proof. Gotta blame it.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I'm a juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, e. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Blame it. I'm a juice. Blamey. I know that it's not, it's technically from years ago, but it's been trapped in my head for days.
Starting point is 00:01:10 My life's falling apart and I blame it on Jackie's juice. Why? My juice is fulfilling. My juice heals. my juice gives, but my juice also taketh away. So you should live in fear of my juice, you are correct. Living in fear of the juice. Ever since I drank Jackie's juice, everybody hates me.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah, man, I'm sorry. That was just your lore. I'm just giving you your story. You're welcome. I love being gifted lore. Oh my God, welcome back, Holden. You've been gone for a million years. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:01:45 It's crazy. Yes, do you feel good being back? We're back from our tour, our first leg of the tour. It went so well. Tour was so awesome. So much fun. Oh my God, not a bad show in the bunch. SLC, Denver, and Vegas.
Starting point is 00:01:59 We had so much fun. I'm going to throw it out there, too. An entire run of VIPs where no one was, weird or too drunk or, you know, like, you know what I mean? Or just like getting up in your face, be like, ah, I like fire. I like rain. Which usually happens. Our VIPs are so fun. Like, it really is like, after the show, we're like,
Starting point is 00:02:23 whew, all right, got to go out there. And it is, like, tiring to meet everybody. But honestly, every show we've done, it's like meeting people. It is truly, actually very meaningful and very fun. Yes. It's my favorite part. I love meeting everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah, shout-outs to it. I want to give a special shout-out to Comedy Works Denver, too. I think that's, like, my favorite club we've done. That place was so fucking cool, man. And they just treat you so, ooh, they gave us the good egg rolls. Yeah, I don't think of us tacos, but they were in an egg roll. What can you complain about there? Not a whole heck of a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:01 But I'm happy to be back and so happy. Please get your tickets to the release of Buttholecut Tour. We might be coming to your town. Go to Last Podcast Network.com. Get yo tickies because we, that we ain't stopping, y'all. And one last little shout out I would like. I asked for this on Instagram. But I will also put it here.
Starting point is 00:03:20 We are, we are, some people have noticed we're doing a bit of a tour of the various places in the country. And there are many that are enacting very horrific legislation around trans people right now. And so if you have organizations, if you are from one of those places like Tennessee or Florida or Missouri, and if you have organizations that you would like us to like shout out, highlight direct resources to email page seven or Instagram, DM me, because I'm just trying to like, you know, collect places like that we can boost, you know, along the way because, you know, there's a lot of rough things going on in statehouses across the country right now. And, you know, we here at page 7 want to boost up all the orgs that are fighting it. Yeah, so hit us up at page 7 podcast at gmail.com. We want to know about it, especially like local organizations and things like that.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Exactly. And we really appreciate your help. Yeah. Because fuck that shit! Just want to flip over this. Every time we're talking, think about it. Just want to break everything. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We're going to be torn into those areas too soon. But we're not going to not go because we still want to give shows to the people that are there that love us and that we love as well. Right. But we want to make sure that we are doing good with our platform. So thank you guys so much for taking the time to send that information in. Exactly. Man, it really makes me, you know, not seem. that Robert De Niro's seventh child is that important.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Wow. If it's up against, if it's nut to butt up against these horrific, the conversation about horrific laws that are trying to be enacted right now and that are being enacted right now. Seven children, though. Wait, did he beat, he beat, not in kid amounts, but he beat Mc Jagger. McJagger's 79.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I thought you were about to be like, he beat somebody. He was like, who did he beat? He's 79 years old. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he beat somebody. He beat somebody. He beat somebody. See, I'm raged in bowl. Have you not seen that movie?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Fake people he beat up. No, Mick Jagger, he beat Mick Jagger in terms of age and having a kid, which is crazy. McJagger is 79 now and had a kid, what, a year ago or so? Yeah. Very crazy, man. I just cannot believe the imbalance between men and women. God, what is the deal, dude? WTF, bro, that you could get a seed out at 79.
Starting point is 00:05:43 What are we going so seamlessly to talk about Nick Cannon on Mother's Day? Oh my God. Yeah, exactly. And then Nick Cannon with his fucking cursed cock. God should do something about that, though. It would be nice if there was just a little timeout, you know. God, slice them off is what I say. Can you imagine Robert De Niro climbing on top of you? Pretty good. And just, maybe, I guess he's probably not on top. I guess she's bouncing on top. And he's just going, ugh. I'm doing pretty good.
Starting point is 00:06:10 You think that that's what he's saying? I do pretty good. Or just, maybe just, I don't know, I shouldn't be so. upset about someone's like a bobcat. You don't know. See, that's the thing. But like if we're talking about Martha Stewart, I hope Martha Stewart is laying down pipe and Martha Stewart's 81. And yet Robert De Niro, there's just some, I think it's just because he reminds me so much of like a father figure. Yeah, I think that's your problem. There's just nothing sexy about him. I guess. I'm bitter old seed, too. That's good. Young Robert DeNiro, don't get me wrong. I mean, no,
Starting point is 00:06:43 no, you can get it. You can definitely get it. I'm not just really to necessarily to. disgusted by this as I perhaps could be because I think a young Robert De Niro is just doing a lot of the heavy lifting year. I'm like, I don't have a problem with this. He's one of the less gross older guys to have babies, you know? That's not even a dig at Mick Jagger. I guess I'm just thinking about Donald Trump and how old he was when he had. So it's just, you know, I feel like in the scheme of 79 year old men having a baby, Robert De Niro, yeah, fine. You're right. And honestly, I'm looking at pictures. I mean, I think that I'm being too mean here because he's not, he doesn't let himself go the way Jack Nicholson has. He's old and he's gross. Can you imagine Jack Nicholson's getting on you? Jack Nicholson, very much, much grosser. Also, I think that we know a lot of bad things about Jack Nicholson as a man. And I don't know if we know those things about Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And so that's another reason I'm like, I think Robert DeNiro bad man, you want me to type it in? Yeah, I mean, we'll certainly see what we find. I love that that's the Google search. I'm almost more interested in the woman's story, but obviously, but I will respect that she probably wants to remain anonymous. I haven't heard any information about her story, but I'm just so curious, like, how old and, like, what their relationship was like, because this is his, he's been married twice before. He's had kids with three different women before, or am I wrong? Was he married once before now kids with one? Either way, this is after marriages and other kids with other people, and it's like to enter someone.
Starting point is 00:08:14 life that laid in it after they have his oldest kid is 52 yeah that would be weird to be 52 have a baby sibling that would be very strange i think i think that's the age i was blown away by that his youngest but also his youngest before this one is uh 11 so he's got the spectrum he's got kids in their 20s kids in their 50s just in your own kids just in your own seed bro because you imagine and having generational nut. It's insane to me, did. Yeah, it also is just so interesting, isn't it? How the person who contributes the seed
Starting point is 00:08:53 and can never fucking stop is also the one who has the least kind of inherent workload that comes with that contribution. You know, it's not like his breasts are going to fill with milk and he has to figure out what to do about that. But maybe they will. Yeah, soup of the milk. If they did, that would be fun too.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It'll be like coconut milk. You know what I mean? It won't even be like normal. You know what I mean? Because he's so old. Why would it be coconut? Would that be young milk? Would that be young milk?
Starting point is 00:09:23 What's an old milk? It's like an almond milk. Soy milk. Yeah. Soy milk is definitely the old milk. Yeah. That's a crotchety milk for sure. Oh, that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Robert Teniro has a baby at 79 and first man to breastfeed at 79 also. So we give that up for him. So good. So fucking good. I mean, isn't it interesting, though? I had much more of a disdain towards Big Jagger for some reason that I do. There's just a softness to De Niro, the soft-spokenness, the something sweet about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Seems like you want to have sex with old Robert. Kind of a little bit. We don't have an old Italian dad the way Jackie does. I think that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. Well, I mean, he is Polish, but he does look just like Jack Nicholson. So in my head, he, like, they all remind me of him. So I think that's really where.
Starting point is 00:10:11 my disgust. Yeah. I apologize. I can't find a bad man thing on him, but I might not be looking. I mean, again, it's difficult to look. I looked up in propriety. I put in the real word. I didn't just write bad man.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I did it. I mean, wow, if Robert De Niro made it through the B2 era without a top hit Google search about something he's done, maybe he made it. That's kind of wild. That's what I'm saying. If it's not on the first two pages of Google, like I'm kind of surprised, or he just has the best, like, representation of all
Starting point is 00:10:43 time, which you definitely could. Also my way of going about things, if someone's been canceled but they're not in the first two pages of Google results, I let it go. I don't care what they did. Either. It didn't happen. Or it's way worse because there's a massive conspiracy to cover it up.
Starting point is 00:10:57 So, you can rest easy knowing that it's either better or much worse. I throw my hands up and I accept. It's totally fine. Speaking of, oh my God, accepting canceled people. Oh, oh, where are you going? I know, I'm just preparing myself for the stories ahead.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Go on. Oh, yeah. Oh, do you want to talk about Matt Healy and Tiswick? Because I was going to talk about Shakira and Tom Cruise. Let's start with Shakira. I mean, let's do Shakira. Because, you know, we're not going to say that Tom Cruise is fully canceled, but he certainly has a question mark attached to his name forever.
Starting point is 00:11:27 No, I just didn't think that Shakira looked like a tuna as much as she does to Tom Cruise. And I'm very surprised that he's, quote, unquote, going after Shakira. This is the most, like, weird, publicity. Yeah, it's so stupid. But also to show that like, Tom Cruise, you see this heterosexual man who does not fuck
Starting point is 00:11:50 fish is looking for a real human being to have intercourse with. Do you see it's like they pull the name out of a hat? You know, they're like, uh, Shakira probably people will run with that for a day. One video taken
Starting point is 00:12:08 from a phone camera of two people talking at an event equals, I have a lot of interest in this, but you know what I mean? It's just so clearly like engineered. I mean, it's literally they had a conversation at a, at a rate. Was it F1? Yeah, well, so essentially, for those of you that don't know that there was a video of Shakira and Tom Cruise talking to each other. So the internet went wild with the fact that Tom Cruise was going after Shakira to date and to become the next minute. This is Cruz because we all know that everyone that he dates, it's all by contract. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Even though, you know, we claim. It's like, I feel like it's one of those things that we all, quote, unquote, like, don't know. Right. But we definitely know. But that, does that mean they want us to know that? Which means that it's not true? The problem, I think, especially here at page seven with Tom Cruise, is that there are so many things about him that are, like, officially known yet not official. Also, by the way, was the Miami Grand Prix, by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Is that F1 though? You're asking the wrong. I know I look like a car bitch. I know that I'm such a tinker tanker toy o'to woman. You're such a teakered tanker Taylor Spy. Are you using that as a reference? Tinker tanker Toyota woman is what I said. Why are we talking about a Sam Rockwell movie all this?
Starting point is 00:13:32 But this is the thing. We have talked for so long on the show about how Tom Cruise fucks fish, which is not officially true or official. Well, officially. Officially. Officially. Listen, I'm not saying it's not true. Fish, fish, fish, fish.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I see. Sorry, I was late to that. Fish is in the word. Fish is in the word. Wow. You know what? I don't even remember what point I'm going to make. It's over.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Oh, no. Sorry. We got too excited. There's too much weird stuff around him is what I'm trying to say. Who knows what is true? We obviously know he does fuck fish. Yeah. And then everything else about him is like,
Starting point is 00:14:09 is all or, all of his marriage contracts, like, that might actually be a real fact that is known. But, you know, they're all, there's so much secrecy and so much, nobody can talk about Tom Cruz what is actually going on. Like, literally one of the other stories you said is that in contracts with how he talks to people and will be interviewed, they just agree to not ever ask him certain things. And so it is just so bizarre to talk about him. especially after we've talked for so many years about how many fishy fucks.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yes, I absolutely agree, but we do know for a fact he definitely fucks fish. Absolutely, and you can take me to a court a law of that. I'm kidding. It's a legend. Tom, do not come after me. Oh, my God, you don't want Scientology after you. That's why, you know, it is, it's not official,
Starting point is 00:14:58 but it is definitely quite interesting. Sea org. Yeah, it's a Corg for a reason. But I love the fact, too, that also he's like, I'm very, first of all, the quotes are always so funny. I forget the exact quote. It's like, I'm very excited about my prospects with Shakira, which is like the most insane way to talk about, like, being interested in someone. And then the next day, she's like, pullside with Lewis Hamilton. By the way, it's Lewis Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Jackie was like, she should fuck car guy or whatever it was. Yeah, the Carmen. Let me explain this. I have watched the F-1 Netflix show, which is fantastic, by the way, if you do. want to get into any of that world. It's so well filmed, even for the Lemon. And it is a, Lewis Hamilton's like the F1 guy.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Oh, so he's big top card on. He's like, Numero, Tinker Taylor Soldier Spire. Tinker Taylor Spider-Spire. Toyota Woman. Toyota, Tinker, yeah, please, Tinker Taker, Toyota Woman. I believe it's for some reason we have to replace Taylor with Taker. You say a giant tank made out of Toyota like. Yeah, of Cammaries.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah, man. I'm scary. Real Transformer over here. But yeah, he's like, the guy. I see that. I see Big Car Daddy. I see her ex, like, the professional soccer player. And he's really hot, even though bad.
Starting point is 00:16:20 He's bad. Like, he not only cheated on her, but now he's with the 24-year-old that he cheated on her with. And so she just openly, she's just devastated. Poor Shakira. Poor Shakira. To be fair, he hates Tom Cruise. Yeah, yeah. Although Tom Cruise, I don't think that he's like, it's, like, it's.
Starting point is 00:16:36 so weird to think of him as attractive or not attractive because I see him as such a separate entity of human being that I don't even think about him being sexual whatsoever besides, I mean, eviscerating a fish with his penis, but outside
Starting point is 00:16:52 of doing that and having its teeth scrape against the skin. Yeah, it's like a Junji Ito comic. It's horrifying. Spirals. That's the thing. I can't even Jaggie is a slippery fish right now. I'm trying to like...
Starting point is 00:17:09 You don't know what I'm going to say. He says something insane and I love it. Is it like, would we tie the timeline? At some point, Tom Cruise went from being like a normal movie star that everybody likes and then somewhere between him jumping on the couch with Oprah and like the Scientology documentary coming out, I think he has just entered a completely different realm. It is like he is not on fucking planet Earth anymore. He's not even remotely comparable to other celebrities.
Starting point is 00:17:37 And I don't know if we tie it to like, yeah, the him jumping on the couch thing or, you know, and everybody being like, you're a little bit scary. Or everybody realizing like, oh, the cult you're in is like a little bit murderous, you know. So it's that's, he just, he's on a different plane. You say it's a little bit murderous? Isn't it? Oh, yeah. No, it's very. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oh, yeah. There's a missing woman and all that stuff. But, but. Or at least quite disappearing-e. Disappearing. Yeah. I think it's disappearances. I think the thing that it's all alleged, first of all.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And I think the thing that it makes it all here on page seven, we're scared. And it is a legend. The thing that throws, the thing that makes it askew is the fact that, but he can still make a top gun maverick. Yes. He can still make a massive blockbuster, just absolute. That movie. People say that movie saved the film industry.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Like, I mean, that's the weird thing about him. Like, we all know that he's a total weirdo, and he's also still a leading man at the same time. He's like the Schrodinger's cat of, like, Hollywood celebrities. He's both at once. He can't get canceled. He's, like, uncancellable. And yet also everybody, he's not, like, really considerable as a normal person either.
Starting point is 00:18:53 No. But isn't Top Gun also just nostalgia? I mean, could he make an original Blackbuster right now? I guess, yes, right? I mean, not that that wasn't a new movie, but... Yeah. I think that he definitely could because people will go and see him. He's, you know, such a huge action star.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And he was great in Top Gun Maverick, too, by the way. He was great in Top Gun Maverick. And also, as someone that I saw Top Gun for the first time right before I went to go see Top Gun Maverick. And I was just like, I get, like, you forget how magnetic he is because now in my brain I see him as such a joke. So slippery. But he's, oh, little fish. He still has it. He still got that charm.
Starting point is 00:19:29 He still has. That has the weird charm. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Like, he was great at Top Gun Maverick. Yeah. I think that, yeah, I should just, I should just see a current Tom Cruise movie because he's also, he has that, you know, he has, he's, like, he's, like, he's, like, becoming, like, less and less looks like himself, you know, he's got so much work done and he's got weird hair, and he's, he's just, he's becoming slightly less human, but maybe that's because I know about all the fish he fucks. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:54 He's become more fish than man. We know that. Right. That's probably slowly becoming. He's become more fish than man You can't save that line So just like He's become more fish than man
Starting point is 00:20:08 You have to scream that line Oh Officially Officially I'm terrified I love how we just so derailed MJ Like we're kids in the back of the car On the road trip
Starting point is 00:20:23 No it's good It's good you were right I needed it I just got to say it I was like, J.J. It's in the word. It's in the word.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It's in the word. But if we're talking about weird couple ups, I mean, we can't not bring up. We have to talk about Taylor Swift and old Maddie Healy. Yeah, this is such a crazy one for me,
Starting point is 00:20:52 obviously. Again, remember love is dead. We have to remind ourselves. And by the way, love is still dead. I do not think that love is being reborn anew, at least not yet. No.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I feel very strongly that way. I, I, first of all, there's like a darker, all darker side of this. Well, let's just set it up real quick. Just for those that aren't huge invested in Taylor Swift. I fell into this this morning and I was like, good Lord, I have a, now I have a fucking dissertation and Matt Healy, you know. So I just want to first of all, just preface this with God help you everyone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Go on Jackie. I just want to give a, just a quick setup of just so we all know that Taylor Swift, like, She and Joe Alwyn, but that's the thing, is that there is controversy of like, did they just break up or was it just let out that they broke up? So they may have broken up from there to go. And of course, there's the Gaylor counter theory that it was all a contract. Yes. It probably is all a contract. I will say rumor has it they broke up in February. That's what I'm, that's the story.
Starting point is 00:21:51 She's ready to move on. Yeah, that's the story I'm sticking with. And there was no crossover. That's the what the inside. No crossover. And now she is currently with Matt. Healy, who is the lead singer from the 1975, which is a huge band. If you are not familiar with it, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:22:09 But just you need to know, we're going to talk about today why everyone, or at least why a lot of the Taylor fans are very upset about their T-sway being with Matt Healy. Yeah, and I do think, like, I'm trying to picket little bits of this without getting too insane on it. because I don't like being a hot take Holden. I can feel you vibrating from over here. I already hear the tapping of the mini emails. The tippy typing of the mini emails. No, we're not getting emails about it because I think that,
Starting point is 00:22:43 I think everyone's going to understand where we come from on this. Yeah, Holden's coming from a very thoughtful place. He's thought a lot about this. He's thought a lot about it. He obviously wants what's best for Taylor ultimately. I don't like Twitter. And you just said it right there, though. I don't like how everybody talks about how.
Starting point is 00:22:59 they know what's best for this person they've never met ever. Yeah, that's fair. And I have no idea the details and all they have to go on are these listicles, news reports, and hot takes and opinions online. And I think it gets actually genuinely really gross how people talk about her for her. It always rubs me the wrong way. So that part I don't like. I also do agree, though, that Matt Healy has, at the very least, put his foot in his own mouth quite a lot
Starting point is 00:23:28 and is kind of an idiot and is also kind of an asshole. I will agree with that. I definitely want to deck him in the face. Sure. Like, there is definitely, like, if I had the opportunity, I would definitely just be like, not only don't talk to me, get away from me, and I will just hit you in the face. Yes. It's Mad Healy.
Starting point is 00:23:44 The most charitable reading of Mad Healy is that he is just an insufferable prick, right? Like, I feel like that is like, all right, we can agree that there. And I say this is somebody who learned about it this morning. So if I'm wrong, you know, email me. But here is where I have to throw it in, by the way. And by the way, 975 fans, or maybe not, dude, and just enjoy your band. And don't worry about the things we're saying right now about Maddie Ali at the same time. I will just say, I would be a giant fucking hypocrite if I were to sit here and decry things that that man is said into a microphone in the past.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Fair. Because I have said many a fucked up thing into a microphone in my past, okay? So that is the bottom line for me. Like any other nuance to this whole situation, any more like detailed nuanced opinion, it gets into other. I don't even want to get into it because of the type, I hear the typing. I think that's. The typing of the emails.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I think that's fair, though, to acknowledge it at this point, people, you know, in their, however old they are, people have a decade or two of internet history underneath them and the kind of practice that emerged, I think, once Twitter kind of left this, like, record of things of things people had said, there was a practice for a while. I remember when Trevor Noah got, you know, nominated for the Daily Show and people found his old tweets, and they were 10 years old, but, you know, people are like, oh, this is kind of fucked up. And so it is, I think it's fair to say, you know, let he who has not said fucked up shit into the microphone cast the first stone. And, you know, maybe when I said insufferable prank, maybe that's too harsh. I will, he just seems like a guy. I don't. He seems like a guy who is famous and has a very large ego. And when called on things for being controversial, he seems like the type of guy who leans into it rather than the type of guy who says, you know what? You're right.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I'm sorry. And that's the difference. I also had this thought too, because I am very much in this camp and ideology. Let the rock stars be rock stars. Let them all be, oh, did the athlete, professional athlete, cheat on a his wife, no shit. Did the dumb fuck lead singer of the rock band that's like beautiful and always has it his entire life, say something idiotic?
Starting point is 00:26:03 It just reminds me of the Beatles saying they're bigger than Jesus. It's like, it's not that it's cool to say shit of any kind of nature like that, but it's just what rock stars do. They are just out there being rock stars. You know what he mean? I don't know. It's, it's... I think it's just hard. I think like, for example, one of the things he's been accused of is doing. a Nazi salute at a concert. And like, again, even without weighing it on this
Starting point is 00:26:28 Not great. Obviously, that's worse. Whether he did it or not, whether you think it was a joke, whatever. To be in that realm of criticism is different than saying, I guess at the time saying they were bigger than Jesus really was like the most controversial thing. What's such a crazy controversial thing to say. And I will say the Nazi salute, at least in context, whether, whether, and it's still not necessarily not okay. He's making fun of Kanye.
Starting point is 00:26:51 He's taking the piss out of Kanye. Right. He's definitely, I don't. I don't think he's a Nazi. I don't think it's any of that. I think he's just not good at messaging stuff. When I say I want to punch him in the face, it's more just because I feel like if I punch him in the face,
Starting point is 00:27:04 he'd go, he'd just like, wipe the blood off his blood. This would be like, yeah, dude. I know. Like, that's what I feel like the interaction would be. And then I'd be like, yeah, man, I just had to get that out. And I'm the, right. I think that, like, you know, I agree with you, hold it in the sense that we shouldn't expect,
Starting point is 00:27:20 you know, rock stars can be fucking idiots and, you know, and we don't have to. expect them to all be heroes. But I think that it is, it's hard. I think when we are in this time where we expect people, I think because there's so many bad things happening, we expect people to be affirmatively like saying what side they're on, you know? And I think that that's why so many, why the feelings are so charged up about this, because it's not clear that he's trying to affirmatively be in, and, you know, it sounds like he actually does have a record of also having good politics, but he also seems like a guy who courts controversy sometimes. And so it's,
Starting point is 00:27:54 I think that's part of where all the charged up feelings. Like, can't you just affirmatively say that was a racist thing that happened and I don't like it? And he didn't think. And I just think that's a narcissist thing. I will also say this. I will also say this in argument against the guy. If you're a giant successful rock star that's just like traveling the world and making millions of dollars, just don't be on Twitter. Just don't do a comedians podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Why would you do a comedians podcast? I agree. Never do a comedian's podcast. fucking stay off that shit. That's so idiotic. With being the rock star because they think that everybody who's anybody wants to hear every single thing they've got to say. So that's why they do this. I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And he clearly just has not much to say that is going to come out well on certain topics. Yeah, yeah. And just to be clear, as much as I'm like, let rock stars be rock stars. I don't agree with plenty of things he said in the past and stuff. I just want to make that clear. You're saying that... I'd be a hypocrite to be like, you shouldn't, you know, fuck this guy
Starting point is 00:28:58 because that's idiotic. I've said insane shit into a market. And most of us haven't. If you haven't, good for you. If you've never made a mistake in your life of that nature, interesting to me. I don't know anyone like that in my life personally, but maybe that's just the nature of my business, too.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You know what I mean? And we'll also say we have actively grown. That's right. I think is a big difference. And it doesn't seem like, it seems like he is the... same. And I, and I mean, does that go back to like that like that's a, you know, the whole idea of you maintain the same mental age as you did when you first got really, really popular?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Right. Because then you're surrounded by yes people and and no one, like, since nobody tells him no around him, he's just like, well, then I'm going to be like, I'm going to like pick at the scab that is America, you know? And I feel like it's, and they think there's some guys who do this think they're so smart and creative. Right. You are doing the most conventional. thing ever. I think that's the thing that's so annoying about it. It's actually so not rock star-y to be like actually what if I just do a little racism
Starting point is 00:30:02 and thinks it's kind of funny? Like that's actually the most conventional, most boring-ass thing you can do. It's not a hot take. It's not like edgy. It's just so plain. And I feel like, right, I feel like he just seems like a guy who
Starting point is 00:30:17 you know, a lot of celebrities fairly have some walls built up around them about being criticized because if you listen to every criticism, you'd lose your mind. But, you know, you want to be able to take down those walls when it comes to certain big, important things like misogyny, like racism, like Nazism and things like that. Again, I think the Nazi thing, it's not like he is a Nazi. It's like he did something that didn't play well.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Clearly commenting on Kanye, that whole song is like Trump quotes is like apparently that whole song. So he's like lumping it all in and making a, you know what I mean? But not to defend, because then if I start defending, then I hear the typing again, the clicking and the clacking. But what I will also say, though, is like, you know, do you guys not respect, I'm not talking to you guys, talking about the people out there, like ravenous about this and so mad at Taylor. Do you not think that she's like a grown adult woman with, as far as we've seen great politics up to this point? Do you think if they were to continue to be together, you don't think there's going to be some evolution? on his part or some discussion about this stuff or like if they're just dating and having fun and
Starting point is 00:31:29 whatever it might never be a thing but if they actually do get serious together and this is when I speculate about the relationship but come on you don't think there's going to be some kind of like you know she she's amazing like also Taylor you can't change your person you can't change man now and you can but you can you can you can you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can and like you can you can got to know that. And if we're going to be together, you can't say shit like this and... Yes. That's the conversation they need to have. Especially the
Starting point is 00:31:59 stuff about Ice Spice was like months ago. You know, it's just like, you can't. What are you doing? Yes, that's a very good point, Jackie. Some of the stuff he said was a long time ago. We all said stuff. But if you said racist stuff a few months ago and, you know, and also he thinks you might be racist.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And we've all had a person we've dated where we're like, you know what? This person is dumb as rocks and I'm never going to change them. I have never in my life done that. Especially Holden just yelling about how, like, we were waiting for our Gaylor time period. And just for her to have fun because I've definitely been that person
Starting point is 00:32:39 because Holden was ranting about this right before we started recording about the person that gets out of a relationship and then gets right into a relationship with someone who's really, really like a dumb match for them. Just whatever, yeah. They have done that in our friendship before. We all have it. We all have a person too. You're so let down because you're like, oh, they're about to enter their single phase.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It's going to be so fun. And maybe they'll date a bunch of ladies instead of dudes. But he's the opposite of Joe Alwyn who is Borough snow. Yes. Never smiled. If you showed me five pictures of dudes, I couldn't pick out Joe Al. People are claiming Matt Maddie has already been to more shows than Joe went to. in their entire relationship.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Which is kind of a thing, though. But they're very... One thing I like about it is, like, she, with Joe, because Joe, like, didn't like the limelight, and he was a broody, he was, you know, Bruce Wayne or whatever, right? He was that kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:33:35 He, like, stayed in the shadows. And now, the sources are saying, like, he's at every show. He's, like, very... They're very, like, much more out in the open immediately about dating each other. She wanted to, like, own this relationship and, like, not hide it and be secretive.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And I like that kind of thing. But I do wish we entered the, I was so rooting for the Gaylor era or just a single era for her to like, just go out and have fun. So it just reminds me so much. But maybe she's just having a fuck about though. You know, we all have our person where you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:05 I'm just going to have a fuck about with this terrible man. Yes. And he's hot and I know he's terrible and I don't care. But it's hard because she's Taylor Swift and everyone looks up to her and every choice she makes feel significant. Too scrutinized. And I can have a fuck about with a shitty guy and people, my friends might be like, really, but it's not like you're sending a message by having a fuck about with this shitty guy and she is. And so that is hard. But I do have a quote, a couple of quotes from a Rolling Stone interview with Diana Agron that came out May 7th that is apparently quite hot in the Gaylor conspiracy corner. Maitai.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Please. Shud light. So she was asked in a Rolling Stone interview, you've inspired music as well since you're in the last. liner notes as one of the inspirations for Taylor Swift's song, 22. Diana Agron says, if only, that's more because of a friendship than being the inspiration for the song. But I would not be the person to ask about that. I cannot claim that. Next question.
Starting point is 00:35:03 How do you feel about the way that your friendship with Taylor was covered in the media? You two were shipped. She says, shipped? You two were made out to be made out by the media and some fans to be in a relationship. She answers, that is so interesting. I mean, there have been so many stories about my dating life. They're so wildly untrue. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And as my Gaylor source, who said this to be said, that's not confirming or denying. I mean, it's not confirming or denying. I will go with that. I wanted Gaylor so bad. We all were rooting so hard for it, for sure. So maybe it'll happen still. Maybe this is just a rom. You know, best case scenario, have a romp with a hot.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I don't find him that beautiful, to be honest. But I get it. You know, he's a bony. But he's got, he's chiseled, you know, he's got, like, you know, he's the rock star. He's got the rock star thing. And I do like, I do like the sound. I'm not like blown away by the 1975, but I have enjoyed some 1975 here and there. I've definitely, you know, dove in well before this time, too, because they are a huge.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I'm sure they share that, you know, relationship with each other musically, you know, which has got to be interesting. And also, though, it's so interesting because you can track, like, she showed up at a 1975 concert and performed two songs in acoustic guitar. I don't know if you guys remember this. She did anti-hero and a song,
Starting point is 00:36:30 I think it's called like the City or something like that by 1975. They were clearly getting that deal! Oh, my God. Back in, probably, right? And then, yeah, her and Joe apparently February, you know, and then apparently also everybody unfollowed Joe, like all of her friend group or whatever,
Starting point is 00:36:49 like, like, you know, what's her name and what's his name? Like Ryan Reynolds, right? And her face from pretty little, what's her name? Lake lively. Like, lively. They all like unfollowed Joe Alwyn. I can't believe you know who he was talking about, Jackie.
Starting point is 00:37:04 There was apparently drama there. Wrong show. And was it the wrong show? What was she? Oh, gossip girl. But I knew, I knew, I knew you, I knew you, I knew you meant. I knew you, you know. Close enough.
Starting point is 00:37:15 The show about the little ones. with their little spiders coming out of their mouths. But either way, they all unfollow Joe. Apparently there was drama there. And apparently it was allegedly because he leaked the breakup before T. Swift wanted it out to the media. How dare he? And then I was like reading back as love.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Everyone's like, Joe, come back, come back, Joe. And I was just like, ew, first of all, so gross. Second of all, it's like everything I'm looking. She has like lyrics in her songs about how he like does it. smile and stuff. And it's like, this guy seems kind of like a drag, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:54 I don't think I don't think I could be attracted to someone that doesn't smile. Yeah, it's hard. You know, that if someone that just smirks, can you imagine? Be like, what are you doing? Use your face. Yeah, just use your face to communicate.
Starting point is 00:38:08 What are we talking about? Yeah, what's going on right now? Are you like scared to have glee? I guess so. And we're not talking about Diane Agra. And we're talking about how Taylor Swift did help that fan during her concert. Did you watch the video?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yes. Oh, my Twitter is all Taylor Swift. It makes me insane because I want to go so bad. Because he has to wait all the way until. Holden has been harassing people at the show. For the first time, we have people showing up in eras t-shirts, and I'm like, please show up in an era's t-shirts. If you have been, if you are coming before August, this is.
Starting point is 00:38:47 We're talking our June dates and our July dates, common and errant shirt. Poor hold on his, I mean, poor audience members, he's just pointing the people and going, how dare you? But then afterwards, when those people are in the VIP, he gets real deep talking about Taylor.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Well, it's my favorite part of the meat green is I know exactly who I can just start talking about Tay. Tayway, you can have your Tayway. Oh, my God. And I was talking about Taylor Swift being up in the middle of singing on stage. She was singing Bad Blood of all songs. Yes, she was singing Bad Blood. And someone in the audience was getting harassed by a security guard because I guess the security guard thought that this person did something.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But Taylor Swift had seen it while performing on stage, saw what had happened and what went down while she was singing. It was like, no, that's not what happened. Like, leave her alone, she's fine. Like, while she's in the middle of singing the lyrics. It's kind of insane. Like, and doing choreography. It's like so crazy. I was very impressed.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I was like, wow. The fact that she just like even took the time to. try and get it to stop. And it must have stopped because she continued on singing, which, man, that's beautiful. It is. She's like a perfect person. She might have questionable dating choices or whatever, but I love her so much. She has questionable dating choices.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And, you know, I know sometimes when we talk about Tisway, people are like too much Tisway, but honestly, whether Holden was here or not, we would have to be talking about it because she is dominating, right? It's the summer of eras. Well, I will say, though, dude, I don't know if you've seen anything from the Beyonce tour that just kicked off. It's fucking crazy. You see that...
Starting point is 00:40:18 Unbelievable. I was telling Jackie about, you got to look up her... I don't even know how they do this. She gets her dress painted with UV lights somehow. She has a lot of like tech robot stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:40:31 She's wearing this like white dress and this like laser runs over it and makes it all colorful and crazy. That's just like the least of it. There's so much cool shit going on in that show. So many costume changes. And again, I love this too because it's like this crazy era for like pop diva, like, killer queen shit, like in the sense of, like,
Starting point is 00:40:53 she also has an over three hour long show. Damn. Really? Yes. Wow. It's insane. The set list is fucking crazy. So it makes me want to spend another hundreds and hundreds of dollars to see her show, but I just don't even know if I can make it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I don't even know how you, I feel like you have to like go to a. alleyway and get beat up ticket tickets. It's definitely like selling off firstborn situations. Like would you give Winnie to see the Renaissance store? Yeah, I have to give like a bag of blood to a guy or something and like a DNA test. Yes. It's just so crazy. Like I don't even know how one goes about getting Beyonce tickets.
Starting point is 00:41:34 But anyways, uh, that show looks incredible too. I don't know what the fuck's going on. I mean, I do know what the fuck's going on. We've been pent up. It's been years. Um, you know, everyone's finally fully back in business. And so they're just like, fuck it, three hours, bitches, let's go. Three fucking hours.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And with no opener, it's just her. Really? Oh, yeah, doing the whole show. I don't even understand how I also get to see Hame in August, which is a band I would have wanted to see live. Anyways, opening for Taylor. I can't believe she has two openers. It is. I think it's very cool how Taylor has so many, you know, Taylor really uses her platform to boost up other people.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I mean, not that Hame really. Or if, yeah, I guess, Phoebe Bridgers is just too. doing fine. It's still nice. And also, I'm completely fine with Beyonce, not having an opener. This is really one of those rare. I like it both ways situations. Taylor's like an angel stripped of her wings.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I just believe in her. She's got wings. She's got Illyrian wings. I don't think so. Whatever. But also, I didn't quite understand. How dare you invoke Akatar in this? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I brought up Akitar. You should go check out Akatar if you haven't listened to Akatar yet. because it's sexy, damn it. Yeah, and maybe MJ and I just did a little reading situation. Doing some readings together. It got species spicy. Never before. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Erotica, like, towards each other together. It was pretty wild. The word hard was mentioned a lot. It was crazy. While we did the recording, you kept, like, you had that orb you kept hand dancing with, like in a labyrinth with David Bowie. It was unbelievable. Yeah. I've never seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, very dance magic dance. All I know is that Ben Affleck, poor Ben Affleck, can't do right this week. He is, he can never do all right. He is always in the fire, out of the pan, into the fire, because of his love for J-Lo. It is two different instances this week. They must be hounded every second of the day by paparazzi. Yeah. And it's got to be.
Starting point is 00:43:45 annoying. And he has resting grump face. He does. He just looks bitchy. He's always mad. I don't even think he is mad. No, he just looks bitchy. And I kind of love that he looks bitchy. It does make me more in, as someone that I also have a resting bitch face,
Starting point is 00:44:03 I completely understand. And so there were two different instances this week. One was a viral video where they were walking out of, they must have just gotten like coffees or something. And he's walking with J-Lo and he opens up the car door for her. So I've seen two different sides of this on the internet. I've seen the people being like,
Starting point is 00:44:19 we Stan Benefer. Look, this is how a gentleman acts. Yes. This is how it started. The first narrative was like, look at this gentleman opening the door for her. Yes. And then it divulged into,
Starting point is 00:44:34 oh my God, pissy fleck here. We've got such a pissy fleck because of how he shuts the door. Now, he shuts the door cartoonishly. You know when you shut the door and you, let your arm flow all the way through so it goes up into the air and you look like you're a cartoon. You look like a piss boy. Yes, but he looked
Starting point is 00:44:53 like a piss boy like he was shutting the door. I think that's what I love about him is like I don't think these are real moments. It's all taken out of context, but they all are symbolic of every relationship moment we've all been through. That out of context is like they just got to a fight. Now he's got, now he has to do
Starting point is 00:45:09 this like gentlemanly thing, but in the way that he does it, it's like pissy because they just got to a fight. That's like the narrative you put in your head. Everyone can relate to that moment in a relationship where you're like pissed off, but you still do the thing, you know what I mean? Like, I've angrily made Lexi dinner many a night. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:26 You're just chopping and chatt. You're just like, oh, you're still doing this very, like, nice relationship thing. And that, I think, is what people gravitate to. But of course, I do believe, though, that he's just annoyed a cameras on him. At the paparazzi. Yeah. You're like, this video is so funny. First of all, we got the pleasure to watch this all together.
Starting point is 00:45:44 We watched it in the back of the car together on the way to the airport in Denver, which was an absolute delight because the video is so funny. He's opening the door and we're like, what a gentleman. And then he slams the door. But he doesn't slam the door like in a scary or any way.
Starting point is 00:45:58 He closes the door and then like Jackie says, he has a big, grumpy hand motion about it. Oh, it's grump. And then he walks around the car. And then as he's about to get it on his side, he looks and sees the camera and he just does it like, oh, come on. It's so.
Starting point is 00:46:14 So funny. That's why the timing of the video is just so, it has perfect, like, TikTok video timing. Because it's like, it sets you up. There's the laugh of the door closing and then the extra laugh at the end of him seeing the camera. And I think that he is, I think you're right. He's just mad about the paparazzi. But it is told, and this actually is just like the Taylor thing. People project whatever stuff they have onto what they're seeing, you know. So it's like, oh, this is like a bad boyfriend slamming the door. You can see all sorts of things. in that moment, and we have no fucking idea whether they were actually pissy with each other or whether he's just a resting piss boy. Yeah, it's like the spit with Harry Styles. And the, yeah,
Starting point is 00:46:54 and the... Spitgate. And, you know, and then the other one's hilarious to say, quote-to-quote, fight they're having on the runway, which lip readers debunked, right? They were just, like, being cute. They were on the red carpet for J-Lo's new movie, new Netflix movie, I believe, which is called Mother.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And they were at the premiere for Mother, and it seemed like they were having an argument, but of course, this is the, I love that this is so big, specifically for the two of them, they bring in the lip readers, gotta get together around the lip readers, we gotta find out. This couple has been lip red in, you know, in three months. Got lip red, because everyone thought that they were yelling at each other, but they weren't, they were just talking about how to stand.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And she also specifically asked him if she was showing too much about her low-cut, top. And he's like, no, no, you're fine. And, like, he's like, don't worry, babe. And, like, she's like, no, stand closer to me. And they were, like, talking about the shots. And, like, they were talking maybe fervently about it. But again, he's a pissy fleck. He's just got bad face. So, by the way, let's not leave J-Lo out of this. J-Lo also kind of has resting grump face, too. So they just always look like they're upset with each other. But I think they're just fine with each other. It's just gets misconstrued. It's so funny. I love it. I think it's because she's, like, never had sugar before. What is it?
Starting point is 00:48:14 about when J-Lo's like she doesn't have caffeine, she doesn't have sugar. She's never had alcohol before. I don't know if it's never before, but like she never, like, she's never like consistently consumed. And that's like the opposite. The opposite. The opposite. He goes to Dunkin's a drug problem. Gambling problem. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:30 We are running long, so we got to get into the celebrity conspiracy. Hit me with the share. Do you believe it? Are Nick Lachey's fans fake? I mean, yes. Yes. Yes. What's the fans?
Starting point is 00:48:42 This is a really... Who likes Nicoletian? This is a really good one. Like, I have to use an alias and everything. So this one comes in from Big Tommy who writes, yep, Nicolethe, or should I say, Nickla Schame. Thinks he's still writing the same level of fame
Starting point is 00:48:59 as those good old 98 degree days. In reality, I believe 99% of his fan base is forced to be there. I spill no tea without a cup, so here's the proof. Also, I can't remember if I sign an NDA so you can call me Big Tommy in lieu of my real name, lol. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Several years ago, I was contracted as an editor on a content capture team for a health and wellness festival, a festival created and funded by Jewel. She used her connections to set up exclusive celebrity VIP meet and greets of the event. Three days in the festival working 16-plus hour days, Nicholas Chase PR team busts into our editing bay in a panic, forcing us to drop what we were doing and line up single file in the hallway and remove our employee badges. were instructed to pretend like we purchased backstage passes to meet Nick Lechay, as his PR team just found out that no one bought them.
Starting point is 00:49:51 In an odd twist of events, women were instructed to remove their fanny packs and bags as Nick had made it extremely clear that he did not want to look as though he was carrying a man purse, which I can only imagine adds to the shame and toxic masculinity this man so desperately should seek therapy for it. The kicker of it all was that I had no fucking clue who this guy was, and the whole thing took place at 10.30 p.m. I truly looked like I had been woken up from the sweet hereafter. Out of sheer exhaustion and confusion,
Starting point is 00:50:17 I went up to take the photo with a fellow contractor and had a laughter at a funeral situation occur. And it really did put the icing on the cake to hear Nick ask me, why are you laughing? And to only be able to respond with, I'm just so excited. Long story short, Nick's PR team is doing the devil's work, shielding this man from a lack of fans
Starting point is 00:50:38 and making sure there are no indications of femininity in the room. I hope you can take this Nick Lashem conspiracy theory and enjoy it in a new light, assuming that the live audience for the Love is blind finale isn't pulled off the street, forced to put their purses in a pile, and act like they knew who this man is. By the way, they attach the photo from this event. So you got to go on the page, I'm talking to Jackie and MJ, you guys got to go on the page 7 email and look up the picture attached. It's so funny. It is this person and another person look. standing very awkwardly next to Nick Lachey. Just so you know, this shame is 100% real.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Love y'all deeply. Riverdale Roundup keeps me going, and I'm going to have to find a new purpose in life when this garbage fire finally burns out. Cheers, Big Tommy. All right. I mean, you have to believe that is, oh, my God, Big Tommy, this picture is great.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Thank you so much. There is actually a group of this. This is really great. Thank you so much, Big Tommy. I mean, this isn't even a theory. This is just evidence. This is just true. This is straight up true.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Wow. What a great one. I love these accurate ones. Oh, I love it. Thank you so much for sharing that. That is so funny. Because, of course, like, who is his base constituency, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 If anything, it's people our age. But, like, is anyone our age, even if they were a hardcore 98 degrees fan in the late 90s or early 2000s? Are any of them getting VIP for Nick Lechay right now? Because even, like, Backstreet Poison in Sink, they had big, like, comebacks or, you know, I think even just Justin Timberlake keeps in sync relevant. Right. Like, they've had these kind of big, like, you know. I mean, this is his comeback. We do know who Nick Lachey is.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And, like, and if he wasn't doing all this hosting stuff, like, do you remember the other people that were in 98 degrees? Yeah, no. I remember his brother was in it, but I don't even remember his brother's first name. Yeah. Scott. I didn't even know he had a brother. Oh, yeah. And also in 98 degrees.
Starting point is 00:52:43 No, I did not. Because even then. Drew, Drew Lichet. Like, because even then, you're right. Like, even then, no one really, I mean, I'm sure there were people who stand 98 degrees back then. But even then they were. I love 98 degrees. And I mean, you could ask me.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And I couldn't remember his brother's name. Right. Because they were the third. At top, top was the third rate. They were the third choice, right? Like, I don't think that there was another boy band that was, that came above 98 degrees. but after Insink and Backstreet Boys, I do think 98 degrees was number three. But that, you know, that is not going to carry you through the next two decades, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:53:22 No, I don't think so. But give me just one night, una noche. Yeah, one moment to be by your side. I don't even think I could name a 98 degrees song. Una noce. Oh, my God. You just heard one right there. Then there's the Moulon soundtrack song.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Is there? Yeah, man. The Mulan soundtrack was lit. Yeah, I said it. Yeah, I said it. That's the, when will my reflection show? Who I am. Oh, X-Tina. Yeah. Anyway, it's time for the list. Oh, who's on the list? Jackie, got to have that list. Strange, strict demands that the studios put in actors' contracts. According to Annabelle Wallace, Tom Cruise doesn't allow his co-stars to run on screen with him. However, Annabel Wallace, who was in The Mummy with him, convinced him to make an exception for her. She told a Hollywood reporter, he told me no at first.
Starting point is 00:54:24 He said, nobody runs on screen with me. And I said, but I'm a really good runner. What a weird role. So I would time my treadmill so that he'd walk in and see me run. And then he added in all these running scenes. So that was it. It was like, better than an Oscar. I was so happy.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I was so happy I got to run on screen with Tom Cruise. I want to watch The Mummy just to see how many running scenes there are now. They are running again. All right. They got to get to another place and they got to get their path. Do we think it's... Is he afraid that he runs stupid and you'll only notice that he runs stupid? I wonder if it's a height thing.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I think it's a height thing because then you'll immediately see because you can't have someone on an Applebox if they're running next to you. And also, you can see him in the foreground in that very pig. sure that it makes him look taller. taller. So I think that's what it is. That's how he does it. Totally how he does it. Poor man. Which is, but you know, he does a lot of workaround
Starting point is 00:55:21 trying to seem like he's taller than he is. It's okay, Tom. We don't agree with you fucking fish into obliteration. But we are, we stand a short game. Yes, your era has come, Tom. We stand a short king. Now, during the entire three and a half months it took to film Lincoln, director Stephen Spielberg didn't call any of the actors by their
Starting point is 00:55:39 actual names. He only referred to by their character's names, including calling Daniel Day Lewis, Mr. President. Unbelievable. I always use the allegory or the analogy of like, so at craft services, it's like, do you want some more cheesecake, Abraham Lincoln? Oh, yes, I will four score cheesecake more, please. Four score cheesecake more. I'm like not annoyed at all.
Starting point is 00:56:11 all by Jeremy Strong being such a method actor with succession, just because he just kills it so much. However insufferable it may be in real life, I do not give it a second thought. But something about this, L to the O to the J. Something about calling Daniel Day Lewis, Abraham Lincoln, or Mr. President for months at a time. Like at craft services or like, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Your Uber's ready. Abe. Mr. Lincoln, Mr. President. I also love how angry Brian Cox gets about Jeremy Strong on the set of succession Where he's like, it's called acting, God damn it I just love how he just is so angry about it I also like the idea that the entire time on set
Starting point is 00:56:57 He was just like, what is this miracle of science? It's a camera, Miss President Lincoln. He can't do a scene He's just like in the future. He's like, what? There's lights shining at me everywhere. Help. You mean my, my picture is captured inside that machine.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Does it steal thy soul? And he just can't. They're just like, please can we do a take? He's just one take. Does it steal my soul? Unbelievable. During production, on Avengers Endgame, Tom Holland wasn't allowed to see any portion of the script beyond his own lines,
Starting point is 00:57:44 not even the names of the characters he was speaking to, because he has a very difficult time keeping his mouth shut. This is another extremely cute thing, how he keeps like almost spoiling things in interviews. It's very cute. And his co-stars are like, stop, stop, it's just, oh, so fucking sweet. He has the opposite of grump face. He has just like, I'll love you no matter what face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Oh, little puppy dog he is. But it's so cute. And now this is not so cute. Bella Thorne claimed that while she was starring on Shake It Up, the Disney show, Disney made her use a higher pitched voice in interviews because they didn't think her naturally deeper voice would appeal to younger viewers. I'm sorry, have they heard of Miley Cyrus? Yeah, but also.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Deep voice. for us all. Think about Hannah Montana though. Like Hannah Montana was she also like I've never really watched Hannah Montana but was she as deep the entire time like the G sing as deep as deep as as Hannah Montana because I'm not so sure. I wonder. I don't know. I just I've just I've always loved her blunt era. Yeah yeah. Well that's dumb Disney. Now we like deep voices over here. Yeah we I mean we obviously we like deep voices over here. Now this is going back into some old. Old School Universal arranged for Rock Hudson, who was gay, to marry Phyllis Gates, his agent's secretary, because the studio invested a lot of money in Rock, and it was important for his image to remain that of a lady killer. Now, similarly, but on the opposite end, MGM allegedly put a clause in Gene Harlow's contract that forbade her to get married because they thought being a wife would ruin her image as a bombshell.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Wow, isn't that interesting? Jesus. Or like you think, oh, okay, that's really long time ago. What about the fact that when Rebel Wilson, not that, like, I'm a big fan of Rebel Wilson, but Rebel Wilson's pitch perfect contract forbade her to lose or gain more than 10 pounds during her tenure as Fat Amy. Good Lord. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And so, like she even said on a podcast, but I've been thinking for a while like, oh, I want to get healthier. And I was stereotyped in playing of the fat funny friend, which is so hard. hard because I love these roles. I love doing the roles. I love these characters. I did want to do more things, but I felt like being the bigger girl, you're just more pigeonholed, which I understand. And then she finally got to play Jenny Anydots and the rest of history. Oh, thank God. And she got to zip her own skin right off of her body. The dignified role of Jenny Annie Dots as portrayed, you know, I feel like we've been watching a lot of Jenny Anydots in James Cort. And I just feel like they, those, not done respectfully.
Starting point is 01:00:34 No, no, no, no. Now, what about when Pierce Brasen played James Bond and GoldenEye? He was reportedly not allowed to wear a tuxedo in any other movies, which also kind of makes sense. That part I kind of get because it's so, like, at least, like, especially not that specific suit. And last but not least, during his time is John Snow. Kit Harrington's Game of Thrones contract required him to keep his hair long, which he regretted agreeing to.
Starting point is 01:01:02 He felt that he'd screwed himself over after learning that several women on the cast got around similar rules by wearing wigs. And that's got, like, because then you just can't, you can't do anything with your hair. You just got to let it sit there.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But that's, um, but that's so smart. That's my list for you guys. All right. Well, I think I might be losing my side. I think I'm going. Blind. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm so. Oh, we can't. See him. All right. This foreign-born A-list actress. Pete Davidson. Yes, moving on. This was the last time MJ could not get me to say Pete Davidson.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Could not get me to say it no matter how hard they tried. It is not Pete Davidson. This foreign A-list actress who is an Oscar winner slash nominee said she was late to a premiere this week because the guy she was having sex with tore her dress and she had to find a new one to wear. And this fuck scenario, she's the monster. Charlize their own? Yes!
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh my God, good for ha! I just remember that interview when she talked about, like, I am single and no one wants to date me because they are intimidated by me. I understand that, but also, I am single. Please date me. She recently appeared at the world premiere of Fast X, donning the hottest. It's this royal blue bandage dress.
Starting point is 01:02:24 It is so, so it's like all like, yeah, it's almost like fifth element kind of, but a little more covered and blotest. and blue, it's like so hot. Oh. So hot. All right. Moving on.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Oh, yeah. He is in too bad of shape to actually do anything with the multiple strippers he invites over while his wife is out of the country. But this foreign-born permanent A-lister still likes them to come over and get naked and flirt with him. He is a god in the music world. He's a god. Nick Jagger? Yay?
Starting point is 01:02:57 Uh, no. Uh, Mick Jagger's more in the realm of age. Uh, he is, um, you know. Sting! No. He's, his wife, his wife is like also as famous at this point. His wife is, and it's a package deal kind of situation. He's old.
Starting point is 01:03:18 He could barely talk. He, he... Oh, Paul McCartney. No. That's what I was going to say. I mean, wife is also just as famous. His mode of transportation is insane. Clown Posse.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Ozzy Osbourne. Yes, he's riding that crazy train. Ozzy Osbourne and Sharon Pawsy. No. Ozzy Osbourne and Sharon Osbourne and I love to see it, right? You got a love... He's still got it. I can't believe he's still going, man.
Starting point is 01:03:45 He's one of those ones that I was like, remember back when the Osbournes were on? We're all just like, oh, man, he's going south, huh? Yeah, we all thought he was going to die 20-something years ago. Yeah. Unbelievable, man. Absolutely insane. And this is the last one. love it because of how innocuous and just ridiculous this is to be a blind. This one-named permanent A-list singer is famous for not putting anything in email subject lines.
Starting point is 01:04:11 She thinks that people will see her name and open it right away because she is so famous. Apparently she was trying to register one of her kids for a new school and had to do it by a certain deadline. No one ever got back to her about it. She asked why and they said she needed to include certain items in the subject line. They didn't back down either, and the kid was rejected. Oh my God. Could you imagine MJ?
Starting point is 01:04:34 Could you imagine? You got to get over yourself at this point. Just register your kid for school. School doesn't care who you are. Yeah. One named permanent A list. Madonna. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Really? Yes. Wow. That just see, because that's a thing, if you think about it, who would do that? It's like, Beyonce's not write an email. the school. But like Madonna is still old school enough that like I'm sure that she is still in charge of sending her like emails and things like that that she can take care of. Wow. And that makes a lot of sense. Remember when she was licking out of the dog bowl?
Starting point is 01:05:11 So the fact that she's sending emails at all, I guess I got to say go for a. There you go. I just can't believe that was a blind item. Then she forgot. She doesn't write anything in subject lines and that she got fucked over for it. It's such a stupid blind. It's so dumb. To be fair, it is kind of funny. to be like, it says it's from Madonna. They're going to open. You know, I mean. No way. It's going right to spam.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Yeah, go right to spam. Madonna's trying to register a child for school. This must be a mistake. You know, you got to write the email, Madonna. Write the email, Madonna. You got to write the emails. It's just such as celebrities. They're just like us.
Starting point is 01:05:46 They're just like us. I mean, I write my emails like share tweets. Yeah. So they are just like us. All caps. barely making any sense. And I can see again. Welcome back.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Oh my God. And welcome back, Holden. You're so welcome. We did say nice things about you while you were gone. Thank you. She missed you. Yeah. I said it once.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I would say I miss you guys, but technically we've all been hanging out all week together and it's been amazing. So I haven't missed you guys, but I've thoroughly enjoyed our time in the road. I can't wait to get back out. Last Podcast Network.com. We're going. We're going to be all over the place. Nashville, Tampa.
Starting point is 01:06:26 We're adding a Pittsburgh date, I promise. All the places that were happening. All the places. Don't worry. I'm considering doing drag for those. But next one is we're going to be in Portland and Tacoma. So check out last podcast.org. Yes. Dot com for those tickets.
Starting point is 01:06:39 At least the butthole cut tour. Tacoma VIP has already sold out. You're kidding. Really? They were sold out on the initial Oh, man. Oh, man. In the initial week of they went on sales. So yeah, Tacoma is going to be fucking hot. So if you're near that show.
Starting point is 01:06:55 When we have a sold-out VIP, it's just like, it just means we know that the audience is filled with people who, you know, who really show the love. The true heads. And those shows are just so fun. Yeah. I'm so excited. Yeah, we got Portland and Tacoma next. And then after that comes our like Midwest tour.
Starting point is 01:07:11 We're going to Kansas City, St. Louis. Go to Last Podcast Network.com and get all the dates. But it's going to be really, really fun. We are so happy to be back on the road. And thank you guys to everybody who has already come out. We love you guys so much. It's been absolutely so much fun. We couldn't do it without you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:27 So thank you guys so much. And thank you guys so much for listening to our episode today. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. And you can follow us over on the TikToks over at page 7 LPN. And you can come hang out with me over on Twitch. com. Oh, no, it's Jackie on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and hang out on Fridays.
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