Page 7 - Ep. 509: What Does GUNT mean?

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

This week Holden's got Swift Fever, Jackie's got a REAL fever and MJ is living vicariously through them both while gossin' 'bout the generational divides Holden noticed among the BrocHeads at The Eras Tour Film, Holden makes a public plea to Blackpink, BritBrit and Jada Pinkett Smith are droppin' bombshells from their memoirs, Holden's bringing his A-Game, Jackie's losing her ever-loving mind and California can take her skittles from her COLD, DEAD HANDS, Holden is going on a roller coaster with his feelings towards JPS, and in Celeb Conspiracy Corner: The Curious Case of the Kanye Klone!?!? A spoOoOoOoOoOoky List, Da Blindz, SHOUTZ and MOOOOORE!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

in the back of the car and I cried like a baby coming over the bar. It was like a jazzy block. But it wasn't true. I don't want to keep secrets just to give you. Oh, Bob Dylan sing that Taylor Smith. I snook into the garden gate. Every night that summer just to see my faith. Yeah, I'm doing Barry now.

And I screams for whatever it's worth. That's more Babs. I love you. Ain't that the worst thing you ever heard? It is. It is. Absolutely is the worst thing. Upgritting like a devil.

I dare say that although I had a religious experience over seeing Taylor Swift airs toward the filmic experience, I think that this is the super spreader of the year that they are not talking about to someone that personally got COVID from their experience. Because I know it's so crazy. It's like a bunch of people

scream singing in a closed space where just everyone's spitting on each other. I think I remember a point in time where the woman I was sitting next to, we looked at each other and we were singing at each other so hard that I watched her spit, fly into my mouth. Her name was Jill. Jill.

Because we all got to know each other. Yeah. I'm so. How dare you, Jill? I'm great. Jill. Thank God we sat next to them because, you know, it really is a bit of a culture war going on in the movie theater right now with their historic.

There are people who are like, no, I refuse to stand. I refuse to even look like I'm having a good time. There was like the row behind us were all, they were all, honestly, a couple of Brockheads in the row behind us. I'm not going to lie. Oh, yeah. There was a couple of Brockheads and just, and everybody, and they were all wearing their, you know, Billy Elish slumberware. You know what to me? They're all wearing their big, poofy. And that's why. They looked so comfortable. They looked comfortable.

Hold on I'm so against you. And like, you're so against the zoomers wear. And they are so comfortable. And I think, I'd say, go for them. It's just indicators of the generational divide we were dealing with because we were definitely sit with next. to some older people who have now decided they no longer give a fuck like we do about how we look in a movie theater. Jill and David and they were fabulous. We loved you guys.

We exchanged friendship bracelets to them. And there was also another, and there was a ton of, you know, speckled throughout the theater. There were groups of people standing and dancing and waving the light wands that you could purchase. Because I got to tell you,

I'm shocked to hear that there was people sitting in your theater because I posted the reel you made of you guys and I got a lot of questions. and I got a lot of questions. And I was like, I wasn't with them. But a lot of questions about were other people in the theater also standing up and singing.

Yes, there were. But like, I was one of the first people to get up on my feet. I'm like, fuck this. It is the bridge to cruel summer. I refuse to fucking sit during this. Like, let's go. And that kind of, I think, helps get some people comfortable

because I also got a lot of DMs and people being like, no one danced in our theater. It was such a bummer. Really? Yeah. I'm so sad that people are having a bunch. I was reading an article earlier, I think it was over on AV Club that was talking about, like, I had a very, like, sedate Taylor Swift Erez Tour filmic experience.

It was like, I'm so sorry for you. Yeah. Because we have a blast. So happy to be in a theater where we had the dance, like, we had the big dance party on the floor of the theater, like, at the very end to karma. Like, that was so sweet. Everyone, because, like, someone, like, in the front was like, come on, dad. and then everybody like came down. We were all dancing.

Yeah, it was so awesome. And like, it was just for the last song. It was just for the final song. But I will say, like, I definitely turned around. Luckily, the stadium seating was like good enough that I don't think we were super annoying them or blocking them per se. But I definitely turned around. And I was like, they're having like a literal slumber party like in the row right behind us.

And then like two rows back was another big group of people standing and dancing. So it was just a very, it was a total weird kind of back and forth. the experience. But you know what I saw in those kids' eyes? And it's not, it's not like, I love the Zoom Aware too. I love that it's comfy and cozy. It's just an indicator of the generational divide. And I feel bad for them in a way, like I feel bad for all people of that age in their life, because you could tell they all just are trapped inside of this concept of not looking weird or like being too excited about something or whatever, because then they'll be judged and they'll be deemed uncool. That's kind of like... I will say, though, we were sitting next

to on the other side of us was a mother and that was definitely with a bunch of like 13 or 14 year old girl. I was going to say that's how you gotta get that 13 and 14 year old. They were so excited but they weren't getting up by the end because we were going so crazy they started getting up and also singing

and I was like oh good. Because that was the thing that whole row was empty through the cruel summer bridge and they showed up right at the end of the bridge it was crazy so I like I was standing like in the aisle just being crazy because I was like all right I don't want to block the people right behind me. So I went to the end of the aisle and was like screaming, singing the song,

which a woman filmed because it was so insane, how insane I was being like. The group of little girls was like, who's that 40-year-old man in the aisle? Well, and I mean, it is a 3.30 showing. And Jackie and I, we've had a lot going on lately. It's been crazy. We definitely, I mean, we took down a bottle of Roseanne before we left on Jackie's apartment. They had, and they had a lovely bar that you could just walk up to it anytime. And surprisingly, the bar wasn't packed at 3.30 in the afternoon. It wasn't packed. And they did doubles of everything.

You know what I mean? They did doubles anything you wanted. But I will say, if I was there with my kids when they're 13 and 14, which I hope to be, and I hope that if I saw a clearly hammered couple of, you know, elder millennials returning to the bar. because you guys aren't letcherous. You aren't inappropriate. We were having fun.

No, we kept screaming friendship bracelets at the bar. I think that, I hope that everybody, just the way that we brought the charm to the Cats movie theater and at first people weren't sure what experience they were going to have

in the Cats movie theater and they realized it had to be a collective experience in the Cats movie theater. Obviously, ERIS has to be a collective experience and you got to get up out of your seat. You got to sing. All the Instagram videos, not just you guys that I've been seeing have been people acting like it is a live concert. And so I think

that's the only way to do it. I will say, usually I am very against like I am a people pleaser. I don't like to rock the boat. I don't like to like be the obnoxious one. I know surprise it seems like I'm the kind of person that loves to be the obnoxious one. But in reality, in my every day, I don't like to be the obnoxious one anymore. But there's something, it's like, man, you're going to see T-sway, all right? Just like let it go. Right. I see. see all the poop snoots and they're talking about like, this is a filmic experience and you should be sitting in your seats. Oh, get alive.

All right. I, like, just like let go for a second. Go have a dumb, stupid time. Go pretend like you're 13 and you're not thinking about that shit anymore. Like, yeah. Or at least just let other people, like, see other people having fun and be happy for them and not, like, upset. I don't know. You're going to be able to watch it.

Yeah, you're going to be able to watch it like in your house. all seen time and, you know, I'm sure like next weekend it won't be as hype, by the way, and you can probably get a much quieter movie theater experience. But I don't know if we were annoying people or not. I think people, some people were shocked at our age and how jubilant we were being.

Just your age. It seemed to be shocking. Just our age alone. But at the same time, like, and your gender. Oh, yeah. I will say, by the way, we, we will say, by the way, we sat a lot. Like, we sat during the slower songs. Oh, yeah. We're not monsters. We weren't like, we were only up on our feet during fucking like, you know, reputation shit and like 19, you know what

I mean? And like all the big fun, you know, and as soon as Cruel Summer ended, because lover is right after that, I believe. So as soon as Cruel Summer ended, I sat back down. But I was a maniac for that bridge. I was a complete maniac of scream singing it. It's a concert film. And I loved it so much.

And I want more of these. I'm excited for Renaissance to hit theaters later this year. I give me, because concert tickets are too expensive. we all know this now and like I don't think it's going to slow ticket sales. Everyone still wants to see shit live so as soon as the tour's done, you know, if you're that worried

about losing out on concert ticket sales which obviously T Swift is not because she still is touring the rest of the fucking world with this show despite releasing it worldwide in theaters. Please, Black Pink, this is a message just for Black Pink. Please put your tour in movie theaters. It was so expensive. There was no way I could

ever afford that in a million years to go see you guys, and I really want to see your live show. Please, please, please do it. And honestly, can we get the midnight movie back? And it be these. It be these like really fun, big concert experiences. Yeah, we had so much fun. Yeah, and I mean, I

originally appreciated this when I went, my brother dragged me to Fish's quote-unquote final concert, which was live streamed to theaters. By the way, you can fucking live stream it and get, and it looked great. And, you know, I was already prepared to stand up and dance around because that's what that

experience was like, like, people sat for maybe the first, like, song or two, and then all of a sudden, I was literally at a fish concert. There were fucking, like, you know, crazy lights and everybody was waving around and dancing around, smoking weed and fucking, you know, being crazy and do it all the stuff you would normally see. And that's what, it's like, come on, Liz, we got to bring it into these spaces, because I can't spend $1,000 to see my favorite artist right at this point in my life, you know, and I don't, I don't know a lot of people who can, you know, so I, I just, God, she healed me. And, man, I cried.

I cried. You're on your own kid. You're on your own kid fucking gets me, dude. That song, we were just talking about it last week because of the Stevie Nix thing, which maybe I was thinking about that a little bit too, but I think about me and I think about Winnie. And I just, that song fucking crushes me. Now, I didn't get to see it live.

I was on a different night for the secret songs. Oh, that's so cool to get to see that. So you get to see, that's a cool thing about the concert film, too. You get to see, like, maybe stuff that didn't happen at your particular comp. sir. Yeah, well, and then stuff was cut. I'm hoping there's going to be an extended version coming at some point, but man, we were just so many and just, oh yeah, I had a bag full of edibles, so I just chomping on those the whole time and just, I got lost in her essence and it completely What are you going to do with your bucket? Because now Holden's got the bucket.

Well, right now, it's filled with the friendship bracelets and Winnie is obsessed with the light wand and the friendship bracelets. And I don't know if you guys saw the video I sent you last night. I I know MJ did, but she was waving her T-Swift light wand, and she said, I love you, Taylor. I love Taylor Swift. And she wasn't coached at all to say it. Oh, I bet she wasn't coached at all, yeah. Off-screen, hold it. Sit, try it again.

Again. Clear this time. That's right. I get it. I get why other people would be afraid of, like, child grooming, because I am actively grooming Winnie into a T-Swift fan, and it's working. I played Cruel Summer for her in the car and screamed sang the bridge at her

And at the end of the song she said Again And I played the song again We also do that We do that and then no joke After we sing the bridge of Cruel Summer My sister-in-law looks at the kids And goes, that is about Carly Clause

So we Gayler's in the house Yeah you're a Gamer For sure dude That is crazy Definitely a Gailer group Yeah that's some advanced tactics right there I don't think about that.

So I'm going to be like, what kind of thing? I really want to take them to the concert film, too. But I, so I was approaching this all wrong. I thought it's a movie. It'll be there and I can do this at any point. But it's a scarce movie. It's a limited experience. It's a limited experience.

So next weekend. It is truly a filmic experience. I am going to try to go after the San Diego show. Everyone go to the San Diego show, by the way, Las Pogas Network.com. It's going to be insane. Which is also something that you can watch virtually. Yes.

Make it to San Diego. I really hope, though, that they continue to bring eras back, because I'm excited for it to just be accessible in my home, but ain't nothing quite like the absolute just thrill of being around a bunch of Swifties. And by the way, and I feel bad for this because with Jackie, I was like, I don't know what, we're about to walk into with these crazy Swifties. And I forget, every time I go to a Taylor Swift show, the vibe is so fucking positive. Everyone is so happy to be there. So happy. Everyone is so nice to each other. It is unlike any other fan experience, I've been a part of.

I've been a lot. And even like, you know, the jam band experience can be very, like, welcoming and stuff, but like, this is like another level. Everyone's literally like on fucking Molly or some shit. Like, it's, but they're not. You know what I mean? This is just, this is the one thing

in their life where they just go and just like everything washes away and they just, they just get lost in the essence of Tay. And, um, I just think she's Lord. I think she's I wish I had recorded the response I had gotten from the young person that I went to share a friendship bracelet with the one that I bought the bucket from and the light up wands.

And she's like, what does Gunt mean? Oh, let me take that one back. And I took that one back and I gave her the I love Travis Kelsey one. Oh, good. This is the problem with us trading our friendship bracelets that we got throughout the page seven tour because the friendship braces we got are all amazing and they are all page 7 inside jokes yeah and then

also just like some that are just like our sensibilities I have one that says fuck off I don't know why I don't think that's something we say I love it I love it just as fuck off I think you definitely love to say fuck off when it comes to like discade for someone just fuck off yeah that's true I do say that I'm Logan Roy

you are you're just like Logan Roy I definitely I definitely yelled that to our next our seat neighbors when we were exchanging fridge. I was just going, I don't know what these say. I don't know what they say. So I'm sure they got some grongs. Lots of crocs.

Some gronky. A lot of gronky bracelets on my arm. I have a lot of, I have a weirdly a lot of gronky bracelets on my arm. You got a lot of gronky bracelets. A lot of whatever bracelets as well. Whatever is fine for teen girls. And gronky, luckily, if you don't listen to page seven,

you don't know that he is a monster. Yeah, you can't even Google that. I don't think. I don't know that someone wants to create a Google Cracky. Actually, I could task someone to create a Wikipedia page for Gronkey. That would be amazing. I'm Googling Gronky right now. Well, unfortunately, there is Rob Grancowski, who is a badman.

But we don't need to, he's not even a top. Nothing happens. Nothing happens. Nothing happens. Yeah. There's somebody named Stan Cranky, which you wish you were Grongy, Stan Cranky. The search results are as Cavernous is Gronkey's butthole. I mean, it is just nothing going on there.

Absolutely nothing. Yeah, there's a little bit of stuff from the Granc who is Rob Grancke, but again, we don't, he's not even, we're not bringing up that football player. If we're talking about any football men, it is definitely going to be Travis Kelsey. Oh, my God. If talk about, man, it's just not only, like, not only is everyone in SAG begging for the strike to be over if they would just give us what they, what we want and what we need. but the people writing for celebrity gossip are also begging for the sag to go back

because man there is just not a lot happening out there but are they talking about Taylor Swift? What I'm trying to say is don't blame me. All right, don't tase me, bro. Don't blame me, bro. There is a lot of T. I know, man. Everyone can do their fast forwarding or whatever you need to do.

My drug is my baby. I'm for the rest of my life. It's for the rest of my life. Oh. What were you, so walking away where we're like, damn, that's my new era or whatever. What was your favorite era? I don't know. Are we going back?

I thought we were going to move it on. We're moving on. Sorry, we'll talk about it later. We'll talk about it on leftovers or whatever. I just love it. Leftevers, page it. You have a props, Jackie. You can have to think about what's your new favorite era.

I'm flustered. I'm back in. my back in my bliss. I'm just excited because after this week in, so in L.A. we're having another like weirdly hot week, but then it's going into fall. The second, the second I put on a cardigan. No, and I'm not talking about red. The second I put on another cardigan, I've got folklore and Evermore back on. And that is what it reminded me of is that I only listen to folklore and Evermore around like the holidays and once the fall that fall hits, I pop it on because you know I'm a noob.

But I will say, I think that I need to start listening to reputation, you're right, and I need to also, which I didn't realize how much I knew off of 1989. Ninety-nine is like this immaculate pop album. 1989 is literally like I always say, reputation is my personal favorite. 1989, I think, is her best album though. And by the way, I just want to correct you, the cardigan, it's not a cardigan in red, it's the scarf.

Oh, okay, so it is a cardigan. But it is a cardigan, that's fully evermore. Yeah, folklore evermore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, because there's a cardigan. I know they sell a cardigan. Yes, I have a little winny cardigan, actually, that someone sent. Shoutouts to Kate.

Oh, my God. Oh, cute. Oh, I just love. Well, Tay's in love, and the entire, oh, the world needs to know, free time. They're like, did you see, I watch this TikTok that was breaking down how she holds hands. Oh my God. Versus how she holds hands with other

boys. And how they, like, you can tell she loves the fuck with, when it comes to Travis Kelsey, because of how they hold hands. And I was like, this is, this is a level of TikTok that I need to get away from. They do hold hands like two bird talons sort of enwrapped together, or like, uh, uh,

well, he's very protective of her. A bed of thorns or something. It's like vines their fingers. She is definitely on a celebs. I'm just like you, Ben. I feel like I hadn't really heard her talk a lot. And then when I was with you guys for Jack and recently, we watched Holden immediately after we were done doing Jackin.

And we started watching some Shnayette O'Connor videos because it was shortly after she had died. And then Holden was like, what if we just watched Evermore in folklore? And so we did. And I was like, oh, she has such a like, and I think. I talk about this on the show. Like, Beyonce has such a, like, ethereal, like, not of this earth energy. And Taylor Swift has such a, like, I'm just a girl with bangs who, like, can't really

dance, but writes hundreds of songs and sings them very well. And, like, she has, and I feel like, especially her with the Travis Kelsey and being in the box and cheering or whatever, but also her at the era's premiere. And when she's just like, oh, I can't trip down the stairs, oh, I'm singing along to my own songs. She is on, like, I don't even think it's disingenuous, but she is. such a like, I'm just like you thing, you know? And I think it like weirdly

works for her. Like, she's not snooty patooty, but also she's not just like us and she knows it. But she's doing like a little cosplay of being just like us and I appreciate that, you know? But I understand that that's why a lot of people hate her. Yes. Like I completely can see why you would hate her because of that

because then like you see Beyonce went to the premiere. Yeah. And you can tell, like Beyonce is a goddess. Yes. Like, Beyonce is ethereal. She is, and like, and which, like, yeah, that's where she deserves to be. And, like, but then you see them in the same picture. And in my head, I'm like, Tay, you have no, like, you shouldn't even standing next to a goddess. No one should stand next to a goddess.

You don't exist in the same realm. You'll burn up in her fire. Yeah. But that is also the beauty of Taylor Swift is that she is not just like, you know, a star that's about to explode. Right. You know what I mean? I think that's, I think people like, what's the hold on, what's the music video where she dances and it's just like a lot of people really point to it as an example of how much she cannot dance. Well, but that dance is on purpose.

You're talking about delicate. That is, that, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, her celebrity is like, holding. Holden. Holden. I'm just saying. I'm not trying to pick it scabbed. I'm just throwing it out there. But, no, the whole point of that dance and delegate, though, is that, like, she's, her celebrity is like, got. and so awful and like it's literally her like dancing purposely like goofily

because like no one's watching because she's finally able to like have this moment like in her head where she's just able to let loose you know what you mean so maybe you sitting there and be like shit cat dad you should talk to a bird until a beaks your eyes out of your face I don't know hold it we got to raid them in that's not true yeah maybe it's true I don't even know it's true anymore. I just like love... It's true though. Instead of having movies, TV shows, or celebrity gossip now, we just have what Taylor Swift does.

That's just what the entertainment industry is right now. So, I mean, I'd say I'm sorry, but of course, you know, I don't want to say the word essence again, but you know what I'm trying to say. We know what I mean. You know what I mean? And if you don't like it, you can go to the circus and yell at animals until they stampede you. That would be a horrible thing to do. Don't encourage a coup at the zoo. Oh, I love a zoo.

I love a zoo. Yeah, you heard of boo at the zoo. Now experience coup at a zoo. No, thank you. Oh, my God, no. They have today at the L.A. Zoo where a 40-year-old man covered with friendship bracelets appears to have instigated a bird attack. He couldn't get a monkey to sing along with them to the bridge of cruel summer.

And he went mad with rage. He started calling the monkey different names until the monkey ripped his face up. Man, I'm sorry to think the zoo coo is a fucking fun party at this point. I mean, it would be interesting. But there's a lot of interesting things that little tidbits that are coming out now. And, you know, we're talking about Tay. We're talking about Bay. but we must talk about Britney Spears.

I thought you were going to say yay, and I'm so glad you didn't say yay. No, I didn't. And I thought you were, and I know we need to talk about this a little bit too because the fucking Jada Bingett Smith-Wil-Smith shit we have to talk about. Let's talk about Britney first.

I'm only bringing up Britney because there's literally all these tidbits are dropping as we speak about the memoir that she is dropping. And now, you know how like the, you know, all of the, uh, the entertainment people, they get the book first,

so they start dropping the little, whatever little bombshells they're allowed to drop. My Twitter's on fire with it. They're starting to drop the bombshells. And so, you know, I just can't believe what bombshells they are leading with. It certainly caught my attention.

Like the fact that she had an abortion while in a relationship with Justin Timberlake at the age of 17. Okay, we're back to, we're talking about Brittany. Britt, Britt. Okay, because Britney, right, because Jada Pinkett Smith's big old bombshell also about her book coming out. They're both now, this is now we're going to watch these two, which this is insane.

These are two huge memoirs that are coming out within like a week of each other. So now what we're going to watch is them try to out bombshell each other until the memoirs come out, which this is coming swinging out the game. That a bombshell war is, it's like a wizard's war. You know what I mean? It does feel like that, right? A bombshell battle. I don't live with my husband.

Yeah, exactly. Wave the one. We haven't been together for seven years. I had an abortion. Boo! Oh my God. Because, yeah, there's lots, there's been a lot of these bombshells, and it all has to do with the memoirs.

And also, I imagine. that has a lot to do with the fact that like, I guess, but she could do the interview. I don't know how understand how that kind of stuff works. The Jada Pinkett Smith was allowed to do that interview, but it's not pushing a movie. So I guess that's how she's able to do an interview for a book and not be crossing the picket line.

Ah, sure. That makes sense. I'm not sure. I'm assuming that that's what that means. Because if you think about it, like, they are able to push these books right now. because you can't push any movies. I also know like Crossroads is coming out,

like is being re-released in the movie theater, but I know she can't push that. Interesting. It definitely crosses the Jada Pinkett line. Aye. Wow. Pinkett line. Wow.

Wait a second. Leave the COVID jokes for me, Holden. All right, please, people. Come on. I'm making a lot more sense today. than I thought I was going to make. And I'm just going to throw that out there. You're great.

You're wearing socks on your hands for some reason. Oh, my little friends. I couldn't do the show without my little friends. Could I own it? Maybe this is the little angels that live inside of a brain. Oh, yes. Angels, that's what they call us. Oh, fuck yeah, dude.

I missed this. This is good. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird because a big ad, literally an ad for Paxlovid just popped up on my, and I'm just like, get out of my brain, all right? You're like, I already have Paxlavit. I already have it.

It's coursing through my fucking brain. Oh, don't you love that nice metal taste? It's horrible. Somebody messaged me who was like, eat Skittles to counteract the metal taste. And I was like, the metal taste happens all day. You want me to be sucking on a skittal all day? And so try that. Have you thought about that?

that. Suck on a Skittl. I don't know. I'm not going to be able to get Skittles soon here. I don't know how that's going to work. There's some sort of red dye ban or something. I don't know. I don't follow these things. But yeah, they're going after our Skittles now, MJ. I can't believe we didn't talk about that. Right. Because I'm sure it's something that they're going to fix. But, you know, Britney Spears, I'm going to read this memoir or I'm going to listen to the memoir, which I'm very intrigued by, because it has been released that Britney Spears's memoirs, the audiobook is going to be done by Michelle Williams. I was so like, wait, what?

And so I was so excited to read this article. And I didn't realize that they, you know, that like Michelle Williams also like emancipated herself as a teenager. I had no idea. I had no idea. And so there's like this, I think that at least Brittany says that she feels like a lot of kinship with Michelle Williams. The article that we read didn't have any Michelle Williams.

don't know whether Michelle Williams feels can chip with Brittany. But as I was thinking about it, I was like, yeah, I mean, Michelle, you know, being partnered with Heath Ledger and everything that he went through in the way that the paparazzi treated him. Like, it is a, like, surprisingly unexpected yet

meaningful pairing, like given the biographical stuff that they share. Yeah, I think that's awesome. And honestly, too, if you've got, like, with Britney Spears, like usually I like the, author to read their own book, especially if it's like an autobiography or whatever. But if you do have like a scary baby voice, I think it is good to toss that over to like an actor who's going to fucking really sell the shit who has the same background.

That's a very good point. I think that because, well, also fairly or unfairly, I think that people, I mean unfairly, people don't take Britney Spears seriously. Yes. And unfairly, I think Michelle Williams will lend so much credibility to the book, right? It's literally why I bring a man in a suit with me to the bank. Yeah. You know what I mean?

To just be there, to just talk, just be like, he needs, oh, he wants to make a withdrawal. You know what I mean? He's got a good, and, you know, starts talking about percentages and stuff like that. Even just for a simple to get quarters for the laundry machines. The man, you know what I mean? Yeah, and you're back there. Because they don't trust you. You're just calling.

I come and I'm like, hey, I need quarters. Just covered in sweat. The fuck out of here. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, they hate me at the bank. But if I go with this guy, right? This guy, he comes and he's just like, we got to make dividends.

You know, he starts talking about dividends. And, yeah, they hook it up with whatever I want. Mr. Patterson, like you all never call him Mr. Patterson. You have no idea what his first name is. I don't know where he lives. He just shows up. He's a Craigless dad. If you need a guy with the suit to walk with you into different businesses and things,

just to say business speak, just be like, yeah, we're circling the dream. on that, you know what I mean? Honestly, that sounds like the escort that I could use. The net gross on the profits are, you know what I mean? Yeah, all that kind of stuff. I don't know anything about any of those things. It's like talking, when I talk to my accountant, I don't know. I'm like, oh, that's, take it.

Take them out. So anyways, I think it's great. Yeah, it'd be awesome to have someone tell your story for you who's like a much better actor. You know what you mean? Also, especially Michelle Williams. I love. I love her.

Yeah, she's amazing. I'm going to listen to this so hard. But I'm also, but do you, are you going to read Jada Pinkett Smith's memoir? Yeah. Yeah. I hate her. I was going to say, yeah. I think, look, come on.

What do we have against Jada Pickett Smith? This is a nightmare. Whoa. I've never seen, I mean, fuck Will Smith, too. I, you know, I feel a certain way about the slap and everything. but like she just keeps throwing this man under the bus. Really? I feel much.

All of it. She's like, I don't even know why he slapped him. Anyways, I was even, he doesn't even my husband. I didn't know why. I said why. Interesting. Are you kidding me? There's no solidarity whatsoever.

It's so mean. Well, but wouldn't you, okay, let's say Lexi slapped somebody for you that you and you didn't want her to. Wouldn't you be pretty frustrated? Where was she back? when it happened then. Is she gonna stand up and turn it into the Moripovit show? I feel like she's waiting until

it's like the safest moment ever and be like yeah fuck that guy, right guys? Yeah, that's fair. Whereas like when it first happened, maybe she could have said something. You're right that, but I am saying when he got up, she didn't expect him to go up there and slap him. It wasn't like she was going to be like, stop! I love that even she, along with the rest of the world, for two seconds thought that it was a bit. Yeah, that's how the

strange they are. She thought it was a, yeah, She thought, well, even if they were, it's a strange, unless he turned to her and was like, I'm going to go fuck him up. You know, what could she do? She's always been, in terms of the slap, she's been the one who at the time I thought about the most, like, how, what a like difficult experience it would be. Like, I've always, like, you know, the thing, I think probably many people who grew up as girls, you know, had the thing of like, when somebody wants to stand up for you and you didn't ask them to. and you're like, could you please not? And then of course, sometimes you do need people to stand up for you. And like, that's great.

But the thing of like, I'm going to defend your honor. And you're like, my honor's fine. It's fine. Yeah. I feel for her for that reason. And then to be like, this man isn't even my husband right now. Although that's also, the way she's talking about it, she's like, well, I made a promise that we won't get divorced. So even though we have been living separately since 2016, we are keeping the promise

to not get divorced. And I'm like, sounds like you should get divorce. Yeah, I just, what are you waiting for? Maybe you guys are changing my mind about this. Maybe you're right.

Maybe it's, maybe it's really, is it really just Will, Will, who was also like, I've thought that all of the horrible, I thought all the bus throwing under things she said about me was cute and nice. Is he like drugged or something by her? Like, what is going on?

I don't know. I would be pissed as fuck if I, if this came out. I'd be like, oh, you're just like totally abandoned. He must have, all of this must be being passed through him.

Right, right. He's in a bit of a tough situation too, isn't he? Because he... God, he looks like the ultimate fucking... I don't even know what. He looks like the ultimate, you know, people use the word, I don't want to use that word.

I could feel you inching towards the word, don't do it. But it's not that word. It's not that. I don't know what it is. A different word. As you're right, it's not that word. Yeah.

That's just douchebags on... I think he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yeah. Is really what it is. I think that, like, he's not going to, you know, tell her she can't say these things. Right. That, like, what is he supposed to do?

He was in the wrong, especially after what happened. So now I feel like it is this, like, full, like, being dragged, like, all of their, all of their personal things are being put out into the open. But they already were during Red Table Talk. So this is not new. It feels like he, but this is where I get a little confused. year. It's all speculation. This is all speculation. It still feels like the way he is towards her. He slapped

a man national TV off of this joke or whatever. I mean, cause this career ending moment in his life. You don't think he's like maybe still in love with her? Here's the thing about that though. And like he's trying to play it off and everything, but like I don't know about, I cannot speak for

Will Smith, but a lot of times when a man feels the need to jump in and defend a woman like that, it's not about the woman. It's about the man. Yeah, yeah. He felt insulting. Yes. He, right? And so I feel like it is worth, that's why I've always like felt for her.

Also, I'm sorry, I have to say he's cuck between a rock and a hard place. Oh, right, please. So I'm sorry. Go to X with that kind of a statement, okay? Whoa. Stay it over there. I think that, again, there are times when people should absolutely stand up and defend somebody else.

Like, no question. I'm not saying you should slap people, but like there are times where somebody needs to stand up and defend you. She didn't ask for that. He did it. Until now, we haven't really known how she felt about it. And now it seems that she's like, well, I didn't even know that it was happening. So I don't think that, I mean, it's certainly possible that he's slabed Chris Rock because he's still in love with her.

But I think it also possible that his own masculinity was insulted. Right. Because that's his wife. That was the other. So he has to show that, you know. Yes. But MJ, it's not his wife. I know.

But to hit, you know, that's my, I'm sorry to be reductive, and I don't know, again, if this is what he thinks. But for some men, when they act hyper defensive that way, it's not because it's their wife, it's because it's their property. Right. And so I feel like there is a root of that, which is why I'm sometimes skeptical of that type of protective behavior. Okay. You're changing my mind a little bit. You're right. Every time it's like definitely this person's, I mean, I don't look at Will and be like, yeah, he's the victim in all this, though.

I want that to be clear. You know what I mean? But still, you're right. It's not just a blanket. Fuck her. It's more complicated than that. I just, all this specular. Oh, and the other big reveal, too, was that Chris Rock, that apparently he, like, asked out Jada Pinkett Smith, like, even though Will and her are technically married.

It's, I guess, an open secret or not. And he asked her out, right? And I think that that plays into his reaction as well. And that's a fact we didn't know. I don't know if you knew that, MJ. That was a big. Yeah. Did that, do we know the timeline on that?

Obviously, that was before the slap. I remember reading it like it was a like, it happened like a while ago. Yeah, that was how, that was my understanding too. They've been apart for apparently for seven years. Right. Which is crazy. I mean, that's, well, and she's just a really interesting person. Jackie turned me on to Red Table Talks, which I really, really liked.

But she is an interesting and I think polarizing celebrity because she is like, I am going to air not only my own dirty laundry, but even, you know, I have thought about Red Table Talk a lot because I really like the kind of three generations of women thing, but also it is pretty polarizing to be like, I'm going to air the laundry of like my entire family. You know, like, it is, it is controversial for sure. Can we at least say this? She never, she never, let's at least say this.

She never makes Will look good, right? Does she ever make him look good? And I think that kind of, there's something going on there that skeaves me out. She's never said a single thing that wasn't, in my opinion, kind of throwing him under the bus in the last like five years. How about having him on her show? to talk about how she cheated on him. Just all of it.

The entanglement. Everything in her book. There's not one kind thing. Yes. And, you know, she is writing this in a way to, I will say, exonerate herself. Yeah. And to really. But I guess, you know, whatever happens in their relationship is going to happen in their relationship.

Thank you for stay at Jaguze. I meant to also make that point that skeeps me out. So I'm trying to get the bottom of white. But I'm like, that's the shit. thing to say right after that, like, fuck this person, you're right. And I walk that back. But the little things that got me there, I think, a big part of it is, oh, so now when she can profit off of the information, and now that it's safe, a safe enough time period has passed, where, like, she's not going to get fucking completely eviscerated for making these statements,

which she would have, it would have been much more difficult for her and brave of her to make those kinds of statements right around when it happened to have solidarity with, like, it wasn't okay that that happened. I don't know why he would do that for me, yada, yada, yada, you know what you mean? I just think it's like... That's about the slap, you mean? It just is villainous to me. It comes off as villainous. Her silence or on the slap is what is particularly... Yeah, her silence and then, oh, now

that I'm going to make assloads of money off it, and no one's really going to, like, come after me because enough times past, like, it's smoothed out enough. You know what I mean? It's like, now I can say, oh, we haven't even been together. I don't know why he would do that. I guess like my head's going back to that time, when a man assaulted a man on stage,

and then five minutes later everyone stood up and clapped for him while he received an award. It was fucking weird. And like, I don't know. I just like, you're still hung up on the slap. I think that's where your brain lies. The slap is the blue dress, man. It is just so, you see so much in it.

It's so bizarre. What's your take on it, Jackie, since you watched a lot more red table talk than I did? Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about Jada? I do think, I think that if anything, she is definitely getting the consent of the people that she is talking to about what she is talking to. about. She does seem very careful about that, including Well Smith, right? Yes, he did know about

what she was going to talk about. And the fact that, like, I'm not saying that, like, I don't know how she's asking for this consent. I don't know what these discussions are. But it doesn't seem like she's taking anybody by surprise by what she's saying. Totally. None of these things are a surprise. And I think the point of the show is to kind of model what open communication looks like in a family. Correct. And consenting communication. Yeah. In what it could look. look like. And that's the part of it that I like. I like that it shows a way in which like, no, we can all talk about difficult topics within a family. And I'm not talking about like, you know, within friends or like outside, but it's like within your family and how difficult

conversation. Because like we've all talked about this before. It's difficult to talk to your family about real shit. Yeah. You know, you put on a mask of who you are sometimes around your family because you try to be the version of you you think that they know and like when like you don't even give them the option to know the outside version of you and um but so that's what i like about jada picket smith and but you are right i will give it to you olden that like i i you know i i think that she must speak kindly about her relationship with will smith though in the book she must somewhere but they're not the bomb Right.

That's just not what we're hearing from the book. I meant to follow up with that. I'm sure, I haven't read the book. I'm sure that there's got to be stuff in there about how great he is. I guess my thing is we really only hear from her. We hear a lot from her. We hear a lot. You know what I mean?

Yes. We hear very little from Will Smith. And so I just speculate so much over like maybe she's getting consent, but maybe he's a broken man at this point. So what even is consent at that point? You know what I mean? Or maybe he's not. Maybe he's like, no, this is totally, I back this,

she's right on the money, I fucked up, whatever. You know what I mean? But it just all is like hard because I feel like I don't know, I don't really get a sense from old Willie's style. You know what I mean? I mean, is he welcoming me to Miami right now? Or is he, is he, you know, I am. I was about to say a different legend.

I was about to say, or is he, I am glad to you right now? walking around rubble with a dog. I don't know. And just walking around rubble and just staring at rubble and being like, all I have is this dog in my life anymore because my, you know, everything that's happy is of my, the mind fuck that is up. I definitely think like my,

the need your reaction of social media is just like she is Darth Vader and he, you know what he means? So it's kind of hard, you know, to parse that. You've thought through it. I mean, I do think that,

I do think that Red Table Talk is an amazing, um, yeah, an amazing model for like, generational communication. And it, and she, right, she, like, she brought him on the show to talk about their marriage. And he knew that that was what they were talking about. And I actually always thought that was pretty cool of him, you know.

And it is, it's the- Whether you should check out a little stream called Cuppahoe with Holden and Lexi. We just fight in front of chat for two hours. It's great. Ooh, tantalizing. We just yell at each other about dishes. And then we take a quiz for BuzzFeed and then we... And also just correct me if I'm wrong.

In terms of the whole they're acting weird thing. They are also Scientologists, right? So like the whole they're acting weird. Isn't there? Aren't they always? Allegedly. We don't know. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Allegedly. You're about to get... Oh my God. There's men in black busting through your door right now. Allegedly. Allegedly. I thought that that was...

There are rumors that they are that they are Scientologists, right? They claim that they are not Scientologists. Really? So those are just extremely persistent rumors that we have heard constantly ever since we started the show. Yes. Really? Okay. All right.

I take that back. We're all walking it back. I will say the big thing about Scientology and being a celebrity is that like you want to be openly all about Scientology. Right. Because that's the whole reason why they converted you. So I don't know why. That'd be kind of weird. That's like having their cake and eating it too a little bit if they're hiding it.

You know what I mean? Because that's not the point. I will no longer refer to that. And now you can apologize for me saying fuck Jada Smith. Jada Pickett Smith. All right. Now you apologize.

All right. You know, what I love is when we are freaked out about celebrities, hit me with the share. Do you believe in? Wow, Jackie, I'm going to really need you to dig deep

and really bell. I'm just kidding. I know you're saying, all right. That was all hilarious. Do you believe? Selma, like, Marge's sister just showed up to the podcast.

Sorry, my throat hurts bad. This one comes in from a few folks, by the way, multiple people wrote in about this, starting with Brianna. Oh, by the way, the curious case of the Kanye clone. This is a new Kanye clone conspiracy. It's Bay, Tay, and Yay. And yay, there you go. Now you got them all.

Finally, we got there. Brianna wrote, hi, sleuth. My name is Bree, and I love you three. so much. Honestly, y'all are my unhealthy parisocial relationship. This podcast is just chef's kiss. I've been obsessed forever. P.S. Jackie, I'm convinced that you and I are soulmates, but alas, we are both married, so maybe in the next slide. Yeah. Anyway, I just saw TikTok about how Kanye was recently cloned. Please watch the TikTok. She does a great job of going into detail of how this new Kanye is seen without his previous tattoos and seen looking taller

slash shorter and different picks after speaking up about how fucked Hollywood is. Watch yourself. Do you believe? Again, I love you guys so much. I hope you read this okay. Bye. So the TikTok is from It's Morgan F.R. It's Morgan for real. And this was the talk everybody sent who wrote it about this. And they go into great detail starting in November of 2022, controversies around Balenciaga. He was kind of saying how like, Valenciaaga is like, essentially Belizziaga is like, one of those companies who owns everything and has their hand in the pocket of everybody, right? And he was talking about it. He was like, if something happens to me, you know it was Balenciaga.

And the theory is that Kanye disappeared after his many comments about this stuff. And when he returned, he was with his new wife, Bianca, Sensori. He didn't quite look the same. And even his arm tattoos no longer exist. Another tidbit is that he and his wife are supposed to be the same height, 5'8. However, he is always taller than her in pictures, even when she's out with heels on. From another email sent by Kelly, they wrote, he constantly talks out about how celebrities are controlled by corporations that if he disappears, we know why.

He recently tweeted a screenshot of a text. His personal trainer sent him threatening institutionalization and over medication. A strange threat for a trainer to hold over someone since this tweet, Kanye was briefly missing, and then reappeared in a couple of strange photos of him and Bianca, as I mentioned before. Also shout out to Michael who linked to the same TikTok, but it is quite interesting, the side by sides and all that good stuff. And I think the biggest, most damning piece of evidence is he hasn't, like, popped off on anything since his disappearance and reappearance.

Whoa. Zero social media or anything. He hasn't just, you know, he's so known for his ranting and raving, and, like, it just absolutely disappeared after that point. I mean, unless he's finally on lockdown on, like, actual social. psychiatric locked down. And then he got a blowjob on a boat. So parse that.

Wait, at what point in time, he wasn't, when I kept seeing everybody say Kanye was cloned, I was like, oh good, maybe he was cloned like, I don't know, shortly after Yeezzy came out, or something where, back when it was still like, really an artist I admired a lot.

And then he, then he started became a Nazi and everything. But you're saying it was much more recent than that. Yeah, November 2022. Essentially him, like, completely falling off and then his disappearance and his comeback. And it has been ominous, you know? He's said very little at all in person or on anything. He's just always with this Bianca lady who does look like the kind of woman who would be a clone's escort.

You know what I mean? She does. She does. Like, and I don't mean escort in a sex worker way. I just mean like she literally, yeah, exactly. She leads a robot around. Yeah, like a keeper. Yes.

Yeah, like a robot's bumper. It's interesting. Oh, I could see that. Oh, I was just really hoping that it was like good, smart Kanye was the real one. No. No. No. No.

No. No. I've never believed anything more. All right. There you go. MJ. Yeah, I'm watching the TikTok now. And it is hilarious to watch the TikTok without the sound, which is what I'm doing.

And it's just a lot of pictures of Kanye in this shirt that looks like a pretend muscle shirt. So I'm convinced that's all I need. A silent, soundless TikTok. Wonderful. Wow. Wow. I'm ready. All right.

Honestly, you really would have made sense for him to go away. I mean, like, that's the time to do it. Then you come back and it's like, oh, look, he's doing well now. He's with that woman receiving a- And the theory is that Bill and Seaga killed him and then replaced him with a clothes. I think you're connecting some extra dots. No, I think he's being kept somewhere. Yeah, he's probably being kept.

Oh, good. And like, you know what, he's probably in Army. Hammer's Dad's chair right now. Oh, that's not the chair. I do think that, like, if anything that they are probably, he probably has no idea that there's a clone of him that's out of doors that is doing, like, living his life for him. Yeah. Okay.

Restorative Justice idea. What if anybody who loves Hitler has to go to Army Hammer's dad's chair? Okay. Just for like a day. Okay. Yeah. And then they, and then you ask that again. All right.

I can't believe it's in J. I'm pretty sure this is a word. I'm glad it's. I think that that might be. I think MJ, guys, did someone clone MJ? We're walking a clot back today, or I'm going to walk it back. I'm going to walk it back. Walk it back.

I'm excited for the new sequel. They're finally making a sequel to the people under the stairs. It's called the Kanye under the chair. It's really thrilled. They're finally doing it and I really want to see that guy act. So I'm very excited about it. I think you're going to find him pretty fast. I think he's got to get him out from under the chair.

Who's that guy all covered in piss and shit? I just think. Oh, I don't. I don't think anyone else is talking about Rby Hammer's dad's chair anymore, and I just like that we still bring it up. And we just keep bringing it back. Well, I just want to remind, you know, and just everyone that the whole family is insane. Yeah. Yeah.

It's disturbing and bad. Well, there you go. That's my conspiracy, but I bet who needs a conspiracy when you can have a list, right, Jackie? Yeah, it's time for my list. Oh, who's on the list? Jackie, got to have that list. Oh, horror movie facts. as scary as the movies themselves.

That's not fucking true. They're just horror movie facts. Spooky list. The real doll that inspired The Conjuring was just a normal raggedy Ann. This is true. In The Conjuring and Annabelle spin off the evil-possessed doll is a creepy ventriloquist

dummy-looking toy with wooden skin and large, unblinking eyes. In reality, the toy that inspired the series is a regular Raggedy Ann, which is locked up in the Warren's Occult Museum in Monroe. Connecticut. I will say, I think personally, because I'd known about this for a while because like I loved The Conjuring and of course wanted to learn the true story, the Raggedy Ann doll,

that picture of that doll way creepier to me than the on-purpose creepy doll. Oh, yes. Raggedy Ann is creepy. Yeah. I think dolls, I mean, I'm sorry, I did do this as a segment at our first flash show in 2018. I love puppets. Dolls are scary. Yes. Like even regular I'm like frequently disturbed by my children's dolls, regular dolls. So I think that it's totally fair. Regular raggedy ann, scary enough. Yeah, and that picture especially in this glass case, this ominous raggedy and just stare at you and just stare.

And it does stare you in the face. It really does look. I really feel like it's like trying to communicate through the computer screen right now. Anyways, let's keep it moving. I feel like the angels aren't coming out of my hand puppets anymore, but they're coming to me through the doll through the screen. I forgot about the angels and the hand puppets. I think I blocked that part out of my head that you did that earlier.

That was very upsetting. The first American film that featured a working toilet was psycho. I think I say this fact every year, but it is always crazy to be. That is so weird. Was seen as a little too risque for the mid-20th century audiences, which is why Hitchcock added it as a plot point for, some extra shock in 1960's psycho. The scene in question doesn't include a toilet in the novel that the movie is based on.

So they added that toilet in. Nice. Wow. Fucking love it. In the movie Carrie, Sissy Spacec slept in her bloody clothes for three days. When Spac's character in Carrie is covered in pig's blood, it makes for quite the stunning visual. During the three days, it took to finish the scene, Spacic slept in the blood-soaked clothes

to not risk losing continuity. I would say, shove your continuity, up your ass. I don't really give a shit. I'm going to take a shower. Right. She's covered in pigs blood. Right. That's pretty fucking.

And I feel like back then they probably weren't. It was the Cairo syrup mix. I'd rather be covered in real pig's blood. Yeah, exactly. It's like sugary, like. Yes, it's disgusting. You would get bugs, I think, if you slept for three days. Yeah, flies buzzing around you while you

sleep. Also, what do you sleep on a sheets? What's wrong with you? Right. What is wrong with you? Indeed. I love this little tidbit.

The voice actor for ghost face from Scream was kept out of view of the actors. In the Scream series, the voice actor for Ghostface was hidden on set when he voiced his lines to keep the on-screen actors believably unsettled by him.

When characters are taunted by him on the phone, he really is talking to them from somewhere out of sight. He also voiced Mojo Gojo on the Powerpuff girls. So, wow. I love when they do stuff like that. I think my favorite example of this kind of thing is how they film Blair Witch.

Yes. Which is like they literally would just like hide notes for them to like discover that would tell or they would like leave notes for them about what the next day was going to be about. And like tell different actors different things. And it was like crazy. Like, and they would like try to like not be a presence at all. And just they, it was like literally. leading them on like an escape room fucking for it like wilderness hunt or something.

And weren't they like starting fights between them and like trying to start paranoia and stuff? They would tell them different shit and like the, when the, you know, when they get to the part of the movie where the one guy disappears, like they didn't tell them that was going to happen. Good Lord. So like, yeah, they just got these like incredibly authentic performances out of them. I don't know if that's in this list.

But do we like, do we support this is like the whole Shelley DuLong thing, right? We don't support them. No, I don't support that. The scream thing is like a fun. like, well, what if you just never see his face? You know, that's fun. You're not psychologically tortured. No, speaking of psychological torture, real human skeletons were used in poltergeist without the actors knowing.

Oh, man. The prop master on set realized it was cheaper to get some real skeletons from a medical and science supply company than to have replicas made. Joe Beth Williams, who played the mother Diane, filmed with the skeletons in a mud-filled pool for five days without knowing that the props weren't. props. I don't know why the Brewster didn't do Paltryggeist this year. I need to do this movie so bad because this

movie is a fucking shit show. It's a shit show. The whole thing was crazy. It's like the direct, Spielberg essentially had to take over the movie because the director went like completely awall during the making of the movie. Like this whole thing was crazy. And then all the crazy shit, like

the Pulitzer guys curse and everything that happens afterwards. Yeah, that's such a wild one. It's a nuts. Imagine being like, I'll donate my body. Maybe they can do something helpful with it. And they're like, it's in poltergeist. Yeah.

I mean, I would fucking love that. Yeah, I guess that's, I guess some people would love that. You're not a person. But they did have that new story recently that they found that like people like donating like their grandma, me ma ma'a to science. And then they were just like using them to explode them in military tests. Like they would just strap bombs to the cadavers and like blow them up just to see what it happened. You gotta see what happens, you know? How else the science made?

I guess I should be sickened by the possibility of that, but fuck yeah, dude, blow my ass up, bro. Explode me. Explode me. Use me for actual, like, actually figure something out using my body. Please. That'd be the shit, dude, film it. Fucking a bunch of people would cheer and be thrilled. You know what I mean?

It would be great. Oh, man, we talked about this on our pop history episode on The Craft. The Craft hired a practicing witch to keep the film authentic. To make sure they were getting everything right, filmmakers hired Pat Devon, the first officer of Southern California's Covenant of the Goddess. Devin had a great experience on set saying that a lot of my suggestions were acted upon

and virtually all of my suggestions were given careful consideration. Hey, and I'm sure we talked about this on our craft pop history. We did a pop history dig deep in the archives to find it, but yeah, we did the craft and talked all about the making of this movie. Yes, and we did the same thing with Candy. Because those are real bees in the mouth of Tony Todd and Candyman. What? Oh, yeah, dude.

Todd had to have real bees come out of the mouth with a dental dam blocking them from crawling down his throat. Todd had a deal with the production that he would be paid $1,000 for every bee sting of which there were 23 over the course of filming. That is not enough money to me. No, really? I don't know. 23K is pretty, yeah, that would be so painful, though. Bees in your mouth. for 23K holding right now.

I'll go get the bees. Yeah, I'll do it. You'll pay me 23K for bees in my mouth. Honestly, at this point, yeah, I would do that. Isn't that fun? Is that a fun fact about where I'm at? Is that a fun fact about where I'm at? All right.

You're like, can I wipe out all the debt that I have by putting a bunch of bees in my mouth? I think that is a question we could all consider. It's one, what? How long would it take to get over that? Like a week or two, probably? I don't know. I've ever been stung by a bee.

I'm scared. Really? Well, it's being so. Stung by B can be shockingly painful. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, it is, it really is surprised. Like, Lexi got Stung by I B on Thanksgiving a few years back when we were in Jacksonville. And, I mean, hours later, I found her crying in the kitchen being like, it just won't stop.

Like, it was on her hand. It's shocking how painful. I mean, I think it depends on where you get stung, and if the stinger stays in your, the where you got stung and all this kind of stuff. I think it cannot be as bad, but if you get it good, if they get you good, you'll be fucking like, I cannot believe how much this hurts. It is wild. I was like three when I got stung, so I assumed it was bad. That's horrible.

Yeah. I haven't been stung as an adult, and I don't want to know if I would think it was really, really painful. But $23,000, you know what I mean? And then how long is it, how long are you out for? What, like a week or two? And then I can do, I can do streams where it's like, oh, muck mouth holding. You know what I mean?

Oh, go! You know what I mean? I be doing fun Twitch streams. Ew, Muckmouth Holden. We'd be doing podcasts. We'll go, put this beer, I'll let go, fuck. All right. That's my list.

Maybe Muck Mouth Holden can go blind or something. Oh, my God. Blind. We're going to feel. Use of the wrong parts. Muck mouth. I'm sorry, I missed the whole thing. I couldn't understand what Muck Mouth was saying.

All right, everybody. Strap it. I'm not going to do the entire blinds as Muck Mouth. Holden. Okay, that's crazy. This former A-List television actor, who is more famous for being funny than acting ability, is being offered nearly nine figures

to reboot his old show for two seasons. Best sitcom in the 90s, my opinion. Frazier. Nope, Seinfeld. News Radio 2 is up there. Check out the 90s sitcom Tears of the Clown, that we did with Carolina. It was an absolute delight, by the way. And man, did Friends get an F rank? And I couldn't stop it. I couldn't do anything about it.

I can't believe it. I kind of can't believe it either. Dude, my Facebook feed is flooded with fucking Friends memes. Weird. And I don't know why. I haven't watched Friends since it was on television. I don't talk about Friends. Social Media, like, hates you. I really does. I don't like Friends Means. It's like Crocs and Friends Meet. Don't say this Lisa Frank Crocks just came out and my brain almost exploded, okay? Those do look really cool. They're great. But what if you used AI to reverse age all the actors and friends so you could see what they looked like as children?

Because that's what Facebook thinks I want. Ew. I don't want that. Ew. I don't love that. I don't want it. Make it go away. Mine's all just like the military blow-it-up cadavers.

I don't really know what that's all about. You know, but you live, you learn. I mean, that's what happens to me, Ma. And all of mine are from, like, accounts called, like, the Chandler Bing Experience. Like, I truly, there is a whole corner of the internet devoted to friends memes, and somehow I'm lost there. Although, I weirdly, I never look at Facebook, but I opened it up just to use Facebook Marketplace, and mine is all sister wives memes, which I'm fine with, because it's all

like, look at Sabin Robin. Yeah, fuck her. Oh, I know why that is. Not fuck her. shouldn't say fucker The former A-list rapper has decided he is only eating McDonald's for the next a month

Yeah Fuck that shit We were just talking about He's a clone Yeah Yeah yeah How do we know that he's eating McDonald's If he's a clone

That's the thing Well a clone We kept saying robot A clone is not a robot guys I think that's the first That you guys You guys would be a complete stupid idiots about Right

A clone oh my god There's a man behind you The clone I think you're What? Husband's home. Yeah. Hi,

Hi, Gideon. It's good to see you. Yeah, he's dancing. He's dancing. He's dancing. He's going crazy. He's going crazy. Oh, my guy.

He's lighting himself up. No. No, Gideon. No, Gideon. Tell your angel socks to help him, Jackie. We're busy. Oh, they're busy. They're busy.

Anyways, me, ma. Yeah, Kanye West, only at McDonald's. No, a clone. That makes sense. clone would be like, you could almost, like, a clone's not a robot, but you could almost program a clone in a way to like only eat, you know, certain things and it'd be whatever. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I don't know if that's true. A clone is just a human being. Yeah. Shouldn't we prioritize the humanity of the clones? Well, that's getting us into a whole scientific debate. I don't even know if we could even get started on MJ, but I would be willing to spend the next 20 to 30 minutes. Let's do it.

Speaking with you about cloned. People got time. Let's do it. People are looking at their watch, wondering when the show's going to be over. I say treat clones like dogs. They won't rise up. They'll never rise up. Don't say it.

Yeah, there's no precedent for them rising up in fiction or anything. I'm scared. I think we're good. Yeah, well, be scared. Whatever, dude. I'm still going to kick a clone in the shin if I see one. Don't do it. They're all going to come after us then.

And be like, cloney, cloney, clone, clone. You're a stupid clone bone bone bone. You're going to get whatever is coming. to you. All right. Last one. That's the angels say. Oh, my God.

I'm fucking terrified of your angels. I thought they were busy, by the way. Now they could just say things. Yeah, they're only busy when my husband's on fire. They're not busy for holding. They're busy for that and they fucking

talk some shit about a clone. Only in some NyQuil fever dream of hers did this dead rapper propose to the three-named actress. that's right we're talking about her again this didn't come up she had a Pinkett Smith

and Tupac yeah dude we didn't even talk about that crazy part where again it's like that part was cute she said they were good friends their soulmates

yeah they kissed and then they both were like oh we don't have any chemistry it's cute had these children with this man who she's literally said everything to separate herself from him and the thing he did

in her like honor or whatever and then on top of that at insults injury she's like my true soulmates Tupac And she also said, if there was such a thing as past lives, I definitely think that Pock and I have traveled a few together. But she also said they didn't have any chemistry. They didn't have any chemistry. They're just friends soulmates hold in.

And I'm sorry, Tupac had been my best friend. I'd probably still be mentioning it too. You know, it's a fun fact. They were friends as teens in Baltimore, Maryland. Yeah, I think they're trying to like make this sound more romantic than she actually said it was. You know what I mean? Yeah, she said.

She was like, we tried. And it just didn't work. So, like, on Twitter, and this is how things get spun, right? On Twitter, it was like, Jada says she hasn't been with Will for seven years. And then right under that, Jada says, Tupac's her soulmate. And so you read those two things together. Totally. And you're like, what the fuck?

Well, you can't trust the headlines. Yeah, dude. You can't. You can only trust. That's the bomb shows. You only trust the toe lines, bro. You know what I mean? And the toe lines tell me, she's fucking evil.

What do your angels say about Jada Pinkett Smith, Jackie? I think that we are neutral toys. Well, they're not taking inside. Wow, they're careful. Angels don't take it. They just have extreme opinions on everything. They're just neutral about this one person. Neutral, absolutely.

Pro-husband on fire. Yeah, yeah, pro-I guess the angels are worried about emails and d-ems, aren't they? Well, they're here to protect me, Milden. They're here to make sure I don't push myself. Right, right. So they don't want to have to respond to. to an email because they're the ones that have to respond. And you can send me an email about, just send it to me, not Jackie, because she makes her

really upset. It'll bounce off me easily, but that's why you're going to send it to her. But if you want to send it, just think, I did walk it back. I did walk my feelings back. You walked it back. She is strong and big. Don't, don't keep going. I'm saying good thing.

She's got, she's got, you know what I mean? Yeah, she's got pizzazz. She's got Riz. She's got Riz. She's dripping. She's got Riz. She's definitely has her. Obviously, she's got Riz. She's got a man wrapped around her on her finger for about seven years. They've been married, dude. Anyways.

But I will say the pictures of young Jada Pinkett Smith peppered throughout all these articles, what a hottie. Talk about bombshell. There you go. Yep, she's great. I love her. I think she's great. Are you still blind?

Oh, I can see again for sure. And I can see the Jada Pinkett Smith. It's like really cool. Go on? Oh, whoa. I'm serious! Whoa. I think you walked it back a bit too far.

Okay. You say something on the show and then 30 minutes later, you're still worried that you went too far. And you're like, I love. He's got an annoying voice. And he said the bad thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just don't.

I can't handle it anymore. Yeah. But I will say, Tupac, I want to see those hologram shows. I'm ready for them. Bring them. I guess Tupac's people because he's dead. But either way. Or don't do it because that's unethical.

Back to you guys. Wow. Wow. And I like your voice, Holden. I think your voice is fine and it's nice. It's fine. It's fine. That's as far as Jackie's going to go.

Interesting. It's fine. It's reasonable as long as you've been in a friendship with you for a decade and you don't hear it anymore. Then you block it out easier. There you go. Well, your voice is worse today because of COVID. Yeah.

Just remember that people hate my voice much more than they hate yours, Holden. Yeah. Don't worry about that. You can hate on my voice this week. I've got COVID sad, just lingering in the back of my throat, like a big old shield of milk. Yeah, it is just like, your voice is just so, like, it's just so you just got, you got the Riz in your voice.

So even when you're sick, your voice sounds even Rizzy. Yeah, you got that VR, Jackie. You got that voice Riz, bro. Holden and I got the anti-Riz in our voices. Yeah, we've got the, it's like hairsprit. Yeah, we've got the voice needs to be. saying something genuine or entertaining or funny or else the voice will backfire. You know what you mean?

For sure. Yeah, Jackie can be over here just going, ugh. What have got something to say about it? Oh, what do you have to say about it? What are the angels have to say? I love you, Jackie. Oh, my God. You're going to make me cry.

You know that I'm gentle right now. All right. Sarah McLaughlin over here is fucking driving. You're just hugging yourself at that point because it's... Oh my God, and then I get hit by a truck. We're not talking about City of Angels. Yes, spoiler alert for the movie City of Angels. Yeah.

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My name is MJ and I'm MJKL Kat on Instagram. All right, it's time for the song. Shout, shout, let it all out These are the emails that you wrote in about. Come on. We're going to read it to you. Come on. Hey now, hey now.

This is what dreams are made. of. Especially, sorry. I just, man, amused myself with how dirgy that sounded. This is just the shoutouts, guys. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm doing Ice Planet Barbarians right now. I'm just like my brain is swimming.

And it's like, oh, are you about to talk to yourself for many hours on end? know this is shoutouts and you can send in your own shoutouts to page seven podcast at gmail.com. Thank you guys so much for sending in your shoutouts and for just sending in your beautiful pictures of your animals and just for sharing your highs and your hellos. And again, you can send in your own shoutouts to page seven podcast at gmail.com. Our first shout out goes out to Natalie. Natalie, too sweet. Natalie sent in a shout out to us. Natalie says I would love to give a special shout out to none other than you guys. Just saw you guys on your tour in Pittsburgh and I just have to give a Brendan Fraser type of standing ovation. The amount of hard work you guys put into making this show for the road was absolutely amazing and you should be nothing short of proud of yourselves. See, Jackie be the loud and outspoken fashion-y-sha-she-ish as she is, MJ experienced gender euphoria

on stage and Holden being his nerdy, swifty self was such an honor and a privilege. I've listened to the show for many years now and seeing you all shine on stage. I felt like a proud mama at her toddler's dance recital. I did the meet and greet, and if you remember, and I definitely do, I dressed for francesance. I had so much to tell you and you guys just listened to me blab. You were not blabbing. I thought it was amazing, Natalie. I was truly blown away at how kind and generous you guys were with your time.

Thank you. I could have talked to you guys all night. We could have danced all night. We could have danced all night. And this is why I remember you, Natalie. Jackie, after all, it still stands for a bottle of wine on me and talking sopranos. What I said didn't make any sense, but what you said did make sense. And I just want to say, thank you so much, Natalie.

And yes, I would love to drink wine and talk Sopranos with you. And our next shoutout goes out from Rachel S to Justin. Rachel says, I want to write in a birthday shoutout for one of my closest friends, an avid listener. His birthday is October 17th. Justin, you are the nuttyest, sluttiest person I know. The world got a little brighter the day you were born. I'm thankful for your parents every day.

I wish I was your type because it would have saved us a lot of time, and I certainly could blow out your candle. Can't wait to celebrate you and see what color your vomit will be this year. You're the most amazing, witty, and wonderful person I know, and I think about your naked selfies often and fondly. You really put the boo at Halloween, so good thing you were born this month. Love you until the end of time and beyond promise to haunt you if I die first. Love Rachel.

And you know what? Your relationship sounds beautiful and scary all at the same time, which I completely understand. I've got quite a few of those relationships myself. I love you guys so much. And thank you so much for sending in your shoutouts to page 7 podcast at gmail.com. We love you guys so much and we love to hear from you. page seven podcast at gmail.com,

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