Page 7 - Ep. 522: Please Put Me in the Goo

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

This week we're gossin' 'bout THE GRAMMYS DOIN' A GREAT JOB! MJ's in a Tracy Chapman hole after Tracy Chapman killed it live, congrats Miley Cyrus on getting her first Grammy, Page 7 creates their own Grammys that we can all agree would be far superior, Tay-Tay brings home best album for 'Midnights' and drops her NEW ALBUM ART AND TRACK LIST, no one can own Eras, quick Crescent City check-in: Jackie's dislocating her jaw and devouring it (MAAS BABIES RISE UP), Billy Joel premieres new song at The Grammys, T. Swift did NOT snub Celine Dion on stage, Fantasia absolutely kills Tina Turner Proud Mary tribute, Lizzo denied motion to dismiss, Jackie gushes over boygenius, Flavor Flav is charming Holden's pants off, shout outs to Phoebe Bridgers for calling out disgusting former Grammys CEO Neil Portnow, everyone's been saying Timothée (and everything else) wrong, Tom Kenny is NOT the SpongeBob shacking up with Ariana Grande, and in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner: Is Sydney Sweeney a LIAR?!?! A list to hide from actors and BLINDZ! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This one goes out to you, MJ. So I remember when we were driving, driving in your car. Speed so fast, I felt like I was drunken. See the lights lay up a force, and your arm felt nice right around my shoulder. And I, I had a feeling that I belonged. I, had a feeling I could be someone, be someone, be someone. Oh my God, did people flip out? Tracy Chapman at the Grammys.

Oh my God, by people, I mean MJ, drunk and at home flipping out in their own home, going and Strasent Chapman. Tracy Chapman, you got a fast car. I have been living in Tracy Chapman's world since Sunday night. It's a sad world to live in MJ. That is such a world for you to choose after watching the Grammys to really nestle into. I love a sad world. I used to, like, that song was like my parents' music and therefore automatically lame to me when I was a child.

And then I think, I think we ended up doing it for karaoke for our live stream, Jackie. And like halfway through the song, I'm like, why am I crying? It's such a good song. It's such a good song, too. Now that song resonates so much with me on so many levels. And she hadn't played it in many years. I think 2009 was the last time she, like, toured or performed live. And so this was such a special moment, and it was really wonderful.

If you did not watch the Grammys, we're going to be talking about it. There's many moments, but there is this moment, yeah, where she's, like, kind of been famously reclusive since 2009 and hasn't toured and performed live. And so, and Luke Colmes does a cover of fast car. So people kind of heard the intro, and it's immediately recognizable. And so people hear it. And then the camera is showing hands on a guitar. And there's this kind of waves of recognition

where at first you hear some people be like realizing it's Tracy Chapman. And then as the camera pans up and you see her face, the crowd like explodes and she gets this huge smile on her face. But then the crowd goes immediately silent because they want to hear the sign. Right. And the best, I've been in a big Tracy Chapman hole.

And so the best thing about this is that the video that like made her, that was like her breakthrough has been floating around since Sunday. So in 1988, she was at this Nelson Vandela's 70th birthday, like massive concert. Wow, you really did go into quite the Tracy Jackson. I saw this footage too.

It was on Reddit and it was so, yeah, so it was so weird that that was circulating. Maybe that was on purpose. Maybe that was a brilliant PR situation. But it was already circulating before the Grammys. Really? Without any rumor of her being there of this incredible performance, Go on. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, so it's absolutely amazing. So the video of her performing in 1988 to a packed stadium, and she was completely like a new artist, not famous, no one had heard Fast Car before. And so she had already played her set, had played two songs that weren't Fast Car. And then I believe it was Stevie Wonder had canceled. And so they were like trying to fill,

And there had been this like there had been this like shakeup day of. So the producers of the concert are standing there trying to fill like time on the stage. Yeah. They literally see Tracy Chapman standing there with her guitar. She has already played. And they were like, can you do this? And so she goes out there, no preparation, no, like, she did not know this was going to happen. A packed huge stadium that was hoping to literally see Stevie Wonder.

And so she's going out. to like a potentially hostile crowd. And you can hear it. Just same fucking thing again. You can hear it at first. There's like talking to, it's a noisy stadium. And then within a few minutes,

like a few, you know, measures. The entire stadium is silent listening to her. It is breathtaking. It's amazing. Yeah. And it's, it's Wembley Stadium. Wembley Stadium. Classic, incredible live performance.

Special moment in a bottle performance. And then. then to have that moment. And then Luke Combs, is that his name? Luke, he's not as familiar with some of these country boys. Yeah. He, yeah, did this great cover of Fastcar live and that's kind of what brought it back. Like that was a huge deal.

Everyone loved it. And so he got to perform with her. And that chemistry. Yeah. So cool. Yeah, the chemistry between the two of that. It's such a great performance. Yeah.

The Grammys did a great job. Yeah. And I think that we do. Yeah, we didn't. I think we needed it. And I think that like every year we kind of forget until the Grammys come around. They were like, oh yeah, the Grammys are just like great performances and usually just like great outfits, great time. And this one didn't fail us.

Yeah. I'm so glad that MJ that you sat and watched it with your husband too, which was like, when was the last time you did that with, you know, an award show or like at least with the Grammys? I know. Usually I'm like, oh, the Emmys are tonight. Like, do I need to watch? this. But then I, right, every year I feel like at page seven, we remember that most award shows are a bit of a slog, but the Grammys are like almost always fun, even though, you know, we talk, have been talking for many years on the show about how oftentimes black artists are getting

snubbed. There's a lot of upsets, sometimes fucked up things are happening or whatever. But like, even with all of that, the Grammys not being like a, you know, an unflaught institution. There's just live music is going to always be fun to watch in a way that like, seeing even wonderful, funny, talented actors do bits at like award shows for movies or TV is almost never going to be that fun. Like, it's so hard to do that stuff, right? And it's so easy to deeply enjoy talented musicians playing live music that the Grammys are just a win, you know?

That's the thing. It's the constant live performances, you know? It just is the, it's that no other award show gets to have that. Honestly, you know, it would be fucking amazing. If they did get up there and do, like, scene work, you know, the actors. At the Oscars. Yeah, we have like a showcase. Dude, how cool would that be if we got monologues and scene work all night at like the Academy Awards?

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Oh, my God. By the way, that too would be amazing if we did like states or whatever your thing was that you did in Florida. But there was like all professional actors. That would be pretty fun. You get like an excellent.

You get a superior. and you have to like go head to head and like at the end like it's been this whole roulette to get down to the final people to see so it's like all right they all won superior right but who's going to win best in show

that would be that's such a good idea but it's Cape Lanchat it's Capeland chat of Merrill Street and fucking you know what you mean and they're going like toe to toe and you know that like certain they're all doing gotta wash that man my hair I'm like yes I don't care about you

anymore Johnny I'm done with you all right I'll go off a cigarette so never come back you'll see you know what I mean I'm whatever just saying yeah all doing like right the most famous obnoxious monologues from like our town and streetcar name Desire and stuff oh my god this is such a good idea and then of course there would be certain actors

that would like mop the floor because they're stage actor you know I feel like cute Jackman and like Daniel Day Lewis would win every time and then the people who are good actors but mostly film might kind of flounder I love this idea let's bring it back I love it bring it back come on Bring it on.

Why do we not have that? I will say sidebar. I just recently rewatched prisoners with Hugh Jackman in it. If you want to be like low-key terrified of Hugh Jackman, watch the movie. And also Jake Gellin Huell, but we'll get to Jake Yalin-Snoos last name in just a minute. Sorry, that was totally an inside joke. That's supposed to say his name. That is impossible.

Yeah, it's already an inside joke. We will get to it. There is an article where. Timitou, Chimilema ding-dun. I'm sorry, we were saying it. It's Timotay. Timotay.

Timotay. Jamalama ding-dong is openly saying that like everyone's saying his name wrong, but it also includes a bunch of other celebrities who we are saying their names wrong.

I will say he did say his parents cursed him and he doesn't want people to say his name correctly. Yeah. He's down with being called Timothy. He's fine with it. Yeah, that's tough. if your parents give you like a special little name with some flair that can be said better in a different

like in French or something like especially of language that's like famously hard to imitate, you know, I think I will say I have a husband whose name is Jeffrey, G EO F F F and he's like every time people like, oh, hi, hafalut. And he's like, yeah, my parents that were, you know, hammered in Nalens when they had me. Yeah, they decided to give me a fancy name. I didn't do. He's like, I don't understand why people give people shit for their names when they didn't name themselves. Most of the time. Oh, you're the fancy kind of joke.

Yes. He's like, don't give me shit. I didn't name myself this. Right. Right. But he is fancy and a job. Yeah, he is, yeah, he is always, pinkies up and he's always got a monocle. But that's a, that's a different story.

Wait, can we talk about. I'm trying. I'm trying everyone. I want everyone to know. I am keeping him at bay. I am doing this for us that we're not talking about Taylor Swift yet. We got 10 minutes of no Taylor Swift content. You're welcome.

We needed to talk about other things. There were other things happening. Yes, it's a large, I'm going to say for the next half hour, I'm going to throw it out there. There's going to be a good amount of Taylor conversation. It might not be that much. It's half an hour. That takes us all the celebrity conspiracy, even it's a full half an hour. I don't think it'll be a full half an hour.

I'm just saying, I just want to. everyone to be prepared because it's a big it's a good because you know what it was also a big week for Miley Cyrus as well I was gonna say let never received a Grammy award and yes fucking deserves one thank you very much you mean the gole yes let us let us let us let us let us I'm okay all right okay let's just clear the air here I did say she did look a little bit ghoulish at the Grammys

but to be fair that means I want to kiss her even more. Right. I think that she looks a little bit like, you know, the, the key master. Yeah, I like what you said. He looks like, yeah, Ghostbusters. She looks like Sigourney Weaver and the Ghostbusters.

She looks like, Sigourney Weaver, yeah, which I think it's a great call-up. Which, boing, boing, boy, boy, I'm into that. Like, I'm totally, I just thought that it was a little, when I first saw her, I was like, huh? Right. Yeah. Whoa! Yeah.

Whoa! And then I, I, it took me a second. Right. She, I saw a tweet saying, she looked like a very fancy cat. Yes, which I think is another good comparison for sure, dude. But she got her first. A little jollical.

Got her first Grammy, and I know that was clearly a big deal for her. I loved the Mariah Carey moment. Yeah, that was wonderful. Just standing. And then she was like, uh-oh, I don't know if I forgot anyone, but I did forget my underwear, bye. And it was like, yeah, that's cute, cute and flirt. We still love flirty,

myelian there. I will also say, I did think she was kissing a weasel person in the picture of her kissing whoever she is dating right now. I was a little shocked. But I think that if you're going from a Hemsworth,

it's hard, you know, no matter what. Yeah, you want to go for the opposite. So if you're with a really like mean guy, you end up with like a really nice guy. If you end up, if you were with like a really beautiful man, you end up with like a hideously ugly man next, you know, in response.

And that's how it goes. It oscillates. I bet he's super cool. Like he looks like a super cool guy. Max Marando. His name is Max with two X. That's cool. I like that.

Yes. Yeah, and he's got matching hair to her. He's got, they both got big, big fancy cat hair. Oh, he's like a little rocker man, but he's like a little rock and roll man. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He's a tiny rock head. Yeah. And I say good for him. But I will also kind of say, I don't know what's happening with the facial hair during the Grammys. You are at the Grammys.

I know you're 25 years old, but you're at the Grammys. Let's, what's happening here, okay? Right. Make a choice about whatever's going on on the face is all I'm saying. Nah, this is one of those guys that doesn't give a fuck, dude. He doesn't give a-up. Lily drummer. He's a drummer for a band named Lily.

You know what it is? I think that I have no patience for someone that doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. I think I have absolutely no patience for that. There's sometimes where you have to give a fuck. There's sometimes when you got to kind of show up. You got to put on the nice shirt and you got to show up, okay? Especially if you're at the Grammys as the guest of Miley Cyrus and you're a musician.

You'd think you'd be like, I'm going to try to make my little world debut with a clean shaven face or not. Right. But I hear you. It was kind of in between. I was just a little bit of an in. I'm being a nitpicky over here. Yeah, I think this is not that guy. I'm just in love with Miley Cyrus. I'm just in love with Miley Cyrus and I want to be the best for her.

and I want to show her what a partner could be like. But again, I was joking about if you were with a beautiful man that you're going to end up with an ugly guy, but I do think that Hemsworth was very reeled in and clean cut. And I think she wants to be with a shaggy dog. Oh, yeah. With a shaggy dog. You know, bad things.

Without ever having heard any of them speak, he's a bit of a Maddie Healy. You know, I'm not saying he's like a dirty bad man. So he doesn't like black people then. I don't know. Is that what you're saying? His policy. I'm just saying it's kind of a Joe Alwin to Maddie Healy, you know, Hemsworth to this guy.

Right, right. Totally, totally. Just in terms of the looks. I don't know. I don't know if he's a troll. No, I'm sure he said, made some kind of a molestation joke in a podcast in 2013 or something. All right. I've got a hot take that has nothing to do with what you two are talking about.

My hot take is I am surprised that Taylor Swift won best. album because Midnights is not her best album. I mean... And I know that they don't compare it against her old albums, but like at this point, yes, someone else could have won. I think that like if Midnights was the like be all end all album, I'd be like, she deserved the fourth one because now we know

that she has the most amount of one person winning the same big top Grammy and other people could win it. So MJ, you know, I've always felt like Jackie was secretly my enemy, but it's funny that she would out herself in this way. I'm doing it. This feels like a weird way to out yourself as my true nemesis.

You've heard it here first, folks. We are natural enemies holding an eye. I'd agree that, well, first of all, right, I'd agree that it's not her best album. I'd also, I would also throw, I'd also throw, I would also throw out there, but I do love it, and you're on your own kid alone is worth a Grammy, but I would also say that my favorite,

album of hers didn't even get nominated for anything. And that's reputation. So I kind of don't have a dog in the fight in that sense. Like I think reputation is- Were you hoping she was going to announce reputation? Yes, of course, yeah. She was going to announce reputation because of the black and white. It was a bit of a bait and switch.

They put the black and white up. She's been wearing blackhead stuff lately. You know, she's been coding that she's going to release it. She's been wearing green too. And snake things and stuff. So we've all been waiting for Rep Taylor's version. She was like, no, bitch. Whole new fucking album.

I'm so bad at remembering the name of it, though. The Tortured Poets Department. All of her album titles, Fearless, Speak Now, Red, Midnights. They're all like one word, maybe two words if they're short words. But that's why Taylor Talk has gone mad. Yes, they've gone mad. The tortured poets department out on April Reels Day. It is coming out in April Real's Day.

It's out of April Real's Day. And I can't believe it's April Real's Day, especially because it's clearly her giant confessional breakup album and the track list is already out. You've got stuff like my boy only breaks his favorite toys. The title names are, it's just like, they may as well be like, fuck you, Joe. I hated you, Joe. Joe, you were the worst, Joe. Hello, Ed Larson and Amber Nelson from the brighter side here to check in with you.

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fresh out the slammer too's got it to be like I've been in a prison that the man made me stay in because we couldn't share about a relationship I'm just so excited for the next album fucking a football player I guess I'm the best bitch I get to fuck him my life is great by a football player after he won the big game also hold in everybody watch I thought you were joking when you said but daddy I love him but daddy I love him but daddy I love him is a real on the new Taylor Swift album. Which is a reference to The Little Mermaid and specifically about the fact that the little,

that Ariel changed who she was to be with the man she loved. My daddy, I love him. This is like, I truly, I'm not somebody who gets easily annoyed by Taylor Swift anymore. But I feel like people heard the name of the album Tortured Poets Department and they were like, that's the most annoying thing I've ever heard.

Yes. And it is. And it turns out. It turns out that's maybe supposed to be annoying because Joe Alwyn and the guy from Fleabag and Paul Muskell were all in a text loop called the tortured man's club. Yeah. Yes. They were all. So this is like all like directly at Joe.

The Swifties have already figured it out. I loved watching the Swifties just like buzz, buzz, buzz, busy, bazzy, buzz about because there was this. When she first showed up at the Grammys, she showed up with Lana Del Rey, and they're both, like, kind of helping each other with their hair, and they're having this, like, cute, like, bitch moment. And she goes over and she's like, oh, is my clock set? Is my clock set?

And she was talking about the clock on her necklace, and whoever she was talking to was like, yes, it's set for midnight. And so everyone was like, what? Like my whole TikTok, and I was like, I was getting annoyed. I just shut off TikTok. I was like, I don't give a shit. And they were like, oh, my God.

She's definitely, I, I, they, I've never seen my TikTok change so quickly. And I, I was annoyed. And I like Taylor Swift and I was annoyed. Yeah. Yeah, I have to also, I got to throw in that until this moment, all the just like, she's showing up the game's constant news cycle of that. And then people being, and then people speculating about, oh, now people don't like that she's at the games. But people shouldn't not like that she's at the games.

And now Fox News is trying to be mad. about her being at the game. That was funny actually. There's a master cut of like scared Fox News anchors freaking out that like Taylor Swift is going to like control the election and how upset they are and how popular she is. That was actually very fun to watch. But still, it's been a lot of that.

This gives me new life. I'm so excited for this album. It's all I really, at the end of the day guys, all I care about some music. That's all I care about. It's just the music. You say, this to the man drunk on my couch on Friday night being like, we gotta get eras. And I was like,

yeah, we gotta get eras. And then we rented eras and Holden left my ass at the political of folklore. He's like, I gotta go to my wife and child. I got him so late that night. I liked him. It was like, where were you? I was like, I'll watch. I would immediately to sleep. I've been trying to buy era. because I know that my kids are going to, we can't get through three and a half hours. I want to, I want to own it. Yeah. And I can't own it.

It's crazy. I can't believe it's saving a bill on like DVD yet. Let me buy it, Taylor. I'll give you more money if you just let me have it. Yeah, just let us buy the fuck. I feel the exact same way. I'd probably spend just because I'm like, well, three bucks to rent. I'd be like, $50 seems reasonable.

I would make that money back the third time to watch it. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's insane. We're going to watch it. It's an insane thing to say. No, it's insane. I'm probably convinced myself just because, yeah, I want to be able to throw it on kind of whenever,

and I want to be able to be like, jump to a, you know, completely different part of it and just watch a couple of eras. You know what I mean? And just need it. I will say I did watch multiple parts multiple times throughout the weekend. So thank you for encouraging me because I was sick all weekend. I was just sick in reading my book. I was like reading Crescent City 3 furiously, while taking. taking time because Jeff was out of town to just sit and like watch an era and then go back to

my book. Like I was, I, you know, I became a mishavisher. I love it. All the clocks were at one time. I was waiting for Jeff to return. No, no time would pass until he returned and I wore our, my wedding dress. All right, quick Crescent City check in. How is it going? How far are you in the book? Just a brief, I don't know, run down here. I've got about 80 pages left. Wow. It was, it's an 800 page. Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. It's an 850 page book.

Wow. I, um, I've got 80 pages left. I literally had to like last night, I had to like rip the book away for me to put it next to the bed because I was like, if I continue reading, I'm going to finish it right now. And I, I need to go to bed. We record so early in the morning. I have to put the book down. Um, I've got, I've got my issues with it. I'm not going to talk about it right here.

But I also am just, I'm anaconditaing it down through my body. And it is everything I want. And she's so good at giving just the right amount of fan service, but also things that you thought were like, because if you think like Swifties are crazy, oh my God, the Moss babies are like, because she doesn't write anything.

She doesn't give it like anything a name unless it's going to come back someday. So like everything, she puts hints in everything that she writes. So people pull the text apart. So I honestly can't wait to read it again because so much is happening. It's like I really like I feel like wind is going like fluttering my hair. I'm reading it so fast. I miss it. I miss that.

The last time I had that was probably Game of Thrones. And I just, I miss having that relationship with the book series. It's so fun. Dude, it's just, uh, chef's kiss.

But I found out next book is going to be an ac guitar book, everybody. Whoa. Next book's going to be an Akitar book, everybody. And also the fact that she, like, actually writes the books.

Oh, yeah. And puts them out instead of just like saying she's going to put a book out and then never putting a book out. Like your, like your champion did to you. Yes, for sure. You're never going to get that book holding.

You're never going to get it. It's so funny how little I even think about it and how much it consumed me for so long. At the time. That and Patrick Rothfuss with Name of the Wind. Oh my God, Name of the Wind don't even. It puts out two incredible books that is just like this is the best fantasy series I've ever read

and then nothing. And then they just get, this is the problem. You just left in the wind. Then my name's in the wind. Because the bro fantasy writers, they all get all famous and stuff and then they're like, oh, I don't have to be in this room anymore.

You know what I mean? I feel like your author's like, that's like this is what, this is her passion. Like, it's their passion, but also they're so quick to be like, I could just be a famous horny guy now. It's just like,

go to concerts and like, you know what I mean? And bang people that love my books. Yeah, exactly. It does sound like a great living. I get why they would slide into that. This is like what Billy Joel said about writing. He said that it's torture and that he hates it. Okay, we'll talk about the new Billy Joel

song. Okay, MJ brought it up. I didn't even bring it up. Turn the lights back on. It's great. First song in 17 years, it's great. I love it. It sounded like a Billy Joel song. Oh, it sounds like a Billy Joel song, bitch. First song in 17. There's this whole montage leading up to him performing this at the Gramey's a whole montage about how much he hates writing song. He hates it. He hates it. He hates it. And like literally it was like, you know, most of those little montages before on a big artist performs are about like their journey. And he's just like, I fucking can't stand writing. I wish I'd never have to do it again.

But he feels compelled to do it, MJ. Yes. He met a little young artist and they've been working together. And then he wanted to get out the old pen and paper again. And he wrote. But it is, it was so fun to watch him just be like, I didn't want to do this. And I don't want to do it right now. Don't even really want to perform it.

but I'm going to do it. I also understand. I'm just going to go ahead and put up a shield around myself. I understand we don't like Billy Joel. I understand lots of people fucking hate Billy Joel. I understand. I understand if you don't like things that he's done in his past. I understand.

But I was raised on the Bible of music of Billy Joel. So like it is like the music. I completely separate the music from the turd of the music. man because I love the music so much. You know what I mean? I think if you're an Italian-American from any of the five boroughs, you know, who is older than 30, you grew up in a Billy Joel household. That's a big generalization I'm making.

Yeah, especially if you've ever, like, put a man into a freezer. There's just, well, you're from the boroughs, and then if you're from Jersey, you have it with Springsteen. So it's like that is the delineation. And in that realm, you got to choose one. You choose your champion. And you must choose one. Don't get me wrong.

I love Bruce Springsteen. Also, RIP. His mother just died. Wow. That's crazy. I was like that. Ninety eight years old. There's no way that's his mom.

That's insane. His mom just died. Just died. Yeah, he's like brutally in mourning. Like they were still very close. It was still like it's, I can't imagine. Like that's, but also what a gift that he had his mom for as long as he was able to have his mom for. I should try Billy Joel

with Winnie because right now she is obsessed with dancing in the dark and that is her day. That's her song like if she wants to dance it's either cruel summer or dancing in the dark and she... Well I don't think you're going to get that from Billy Joel when you're going to bottle of red yeah bottle of white

sure it all depends upon your appetite there's so many box though. Wittie's just like da da da no no no Billy Joe dad da yeah I mean I it's funny because between Jersey. We didn't start the fire. She'd probably go crazy for that one.

Yeah, I mean, of course there's many, many bops from Billy Joel, but I do think it's a funny choice to choose between the but because everybody likes to shit on Jersey, but if you're, especially over the five boroughs, but if you're going to choose between Springsteen and Billy Joel, I think the choice is pretty clear. Wow.

For some. But I understand. For some. For some. Not for Jackie. For some. Some people hate Springsteen, you know. Yeah. Some people can't stand the man coming out of Jersey, you know? It's another one of those things, though, that I don't even realize the culture that, like, if you are, if, like, we were raised in New York, went back to New York as adults and lived in New York for so much that between the love of Springsteen and Billy Joel and mobsters is such a thing that doesn't, like, it's not such. I think, I know I talked about this when we were watching the Sopranos, because I was just so shocked that Jeff had never watched the Sopranos. And I'm like, but it's mobsters. You don't watch everything that moms, that. have a mobster in it? And he's like, no, I think, he's like,

I think it might be different outside of, I think your brain is trapped in the burrows. And I was like, oh my God, I was here the whole time. I feel like I'm trapped inside of a snow globe. I hear that. I hear that. Thank you. But also I love the new Billy Joel song.

And yes, I'm going to add it into my repertoire. And I understand the hate towards him. And I will accept it. Speaking of understanding hate, I'm bringing her up again, but whatever I'm bringing her up again, she did not snub Celine Dion. Celine Dion has stiff human being issues problem. And she got up and say she's... Those are two unrelated statements, but...

Two unrelated statements because it does not affect how she handed over the Grammy. I will say Taylor Swift did not even look Celine Dion in the face when she took the Grammy from her. She was excited. Also, it did say that she has something in her claws about... physical contact, apparently. Selindian Dion has something in her claws for going up that night,

but no one was allowed to, like, touch her, like, or whatever because of her stiff situation. So her stiffness. And then backstage, the picture, oh, the picture. And they're together, and she's doting on her, and she loves Celine Dion. It does seem like she's touching her, though, in the picture.

I was going to say, because I'm sure backstage, they're like, now that it's calm and quiet, I was giving you the most respect I could give a human being on that stage just now. And then Celine Dion was like, oh, appreciate you. And then she was like, yeah. You can touch me. Now may I touch a pons to your grace,

the great and wonderful Celine Dion. And Celine was just like, oh, please, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like how you can't touch the queen. Yeah. Yeah. No, everybody thought Taylor is such, everybody, she's a Roarjack test. I'm sorry.

Your feelings about Taylor are reflective of something that is going on deep inside of you. And I'm not saying that everybody who hates her has something bad inside of them. No. But people just, it's a, people do a lot of projection with a lot of famous people. And I think she was, she went up there. She was hugging everyone.

She was so excited when she went out of the year. And there was a lot going on. And I, as a person who is trying to identify when and how I freak out. I've identified, it's very trendy on TikTok, but the word overstimulation. I'm trying to figure out, yes, sometimes if there's a lot of things going on, I short circuit and it's hard for me to focus on that thing. And I feel like Taylor Swift might have been a little bit overstimulated. She was thanking everyone.

She forgot to stop, pause, look at Celine Dion and be like, oh, my God, you're Celine Dion. I can't believe I'm getting this from you. Thank you. Which she should have done on stage so that everybody could see paying respect to the way that Miley did with Mariah. But also, I don't think it was like, give me my award, you bitch, you know, which was like out of what everybody also will say. But I will also say that I do think, I just want to add to that your sentiment. MJ and just say I do think that people who don't like Taylor Swift are afraid of joy and hate Jubilee and that is that is just a truth for me to own and for you to also deeply understand

snubbed she's a snubbed to the queen and I before we move on from the Grammy talk I also want to shout out Fantasia Burrito, who I am, I think, one of Fantasia's oldest fans because I watched Season 3 of American Idol, which was when she won. And I bought her album in 2003 or 4, and she, I've always been desperately in love with Fantasia Burrito's voice. It is so beautiful. And she did the Tina Turner Proud Mary tribute. And she killed it. They were like, they were setting up the that it was going to be a Tina Turner tribute and I had a moment where I was like is it going to be Lizzo?

Because of course Lizzo did an amazing Tina Turner tribute but also Lizzo you know banana up the pussy She tried to get the trial thrown out Try to get it all thrown out and it is not getting thrown out Really? Yeah It's not getting thrown out.

Yeah so I had a little nervous moment where I was like are we going to have like Are we happy to see Lizzo or are we not happy to see Lizzo moment and then it was Fantasia Yeah, wow. She's just not at the dance right now. It's interesting. Yeah.

I wonder how plan that is. I mean, she's also like not touring on an album really or like she's not like hot right now with putting stuff out. I want her. Lizzo will be made or broken in my mind with her next album. And I have a feeling it'll be more broken than made. If she puts out another inspirational go you go girl album next, I will be like. like I'm good. I'm done, Lizzo.

But if she puts out a fucking, if she puts out a apple, yeah, what do you want from her? What are you hoping? What are you wishing for from this? Just honesty, just,

just talk about owning truth before I was joking about. I mean like Billy Joel's song, honesty. Yeah. Honesty is such a lonely word. No, no, no, more like, she's so lucky.

She's a star, but she cried, she cried, she's a lonely. Oh, yeah. I want some truth from her. I want some honesty from her. Or if anything,

or you know what, just lean harder into bitch will be more successful with me. I don't know if she should lean hard into bitch with what's going on right now. I mean, that would be better. To me, that would be more interesting than just going like,

it's your night. Go get it. You're a strong independent woman. Go get it, get it. It is a great song, though. I like that song. People did feel that way even about her second album, right? They were like, okay, we get it.

I felt that way a little bit. I was like, yeah, exactly. I was just like, okay, I mean, but that's clearly not all that's going on. So, you know, yeah, I'd rather, I'd rather the tortured, you know, the tortured Lizzo, you know, law firm or whatever. The Lizzol law firm. That's what we want.

Yeah. Honestly, it sounds like something we would get from Boy Genius. I just, I'm obsessed with Boy Genius. I love everything about them. I love the album. I'm complete, I went into such a Julian Baker. I, because I was like, I don't know much about Julian Baker. And she's just really hot.

I'm just sort of looking to this. And then I just went down. That's the hole. I went down. And I had a great time in that hole. I'll tell you what. Yeah. Can I give a shout out to it.

And I'm obsessed as well. I'm obsessed with flavor flame. Yeah. Wow. and charming the pants off of me. He became a massive Swifty. He finally met her at the Grammys. He took a picture with Boy Genius.

He was like, I'm getting to learn the genius of Boy Genius. He's like always like has the most positive best message. Everyone always tries to fuck with them. Every day he gets a joke about from someone on Twitter about how like I can't believe in 20, whatever, a bunch of women were competing over the love of this guy, you know, a guy that looks like this and he'd always like respond with something really like positive and um or or or bat them down and be like i get this i'm gonna call you legs because you've got legs this actually good this actually i'm gonna call you the way he used to name the ladies on flavor of love was just oh oh he's

so charming he's like he's like really into his sobriety nowadays he became again he became a massive swifty but he's still like got his roots you know as like A real game changer with public enemy and hip hop. Also, and this is a great segue to the pronunciation article. Everyone, and even the article I recently read his name in, it's not Flava Flav. It's Flavre, it's O-R, not A. And he's constantly correcting people on Twitter and it's hilarious. He's like, I don't know who that is, but I know who Flavor Flav is because everyone wants to say Flava, Flav.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't know if that's something that that's the hill that I would die of. It's very funny. He's always correcting people that it's flavor, not flavor. But it's not fun to say flavor, flavor. I think it's flavor, flavor. Flav, I think that's the fundest way to say.

But he, follow him on Twitter. He's the best. And he like, yeah, he's been to a bunch of, like, Ares shows. And he's always just, like, going out hard for the Swifties or hard for Taylor Swift. And he gets so much shit for it because of his background in hip hop and everything. And he and he stands by it so wholeheartedly and like never lets anyone like give him too much shit. He'll always like bite back with some a message of both like biting back but also with like positivity. I don't know.

I just I love the guy online. His photo with Boy Genius was extremely cute and sweet. And also a quick before we talk about the names thing, a quick shout out to Phoebe Pritchers. Did you see what she said about Neil Port now? The former like head of the Grammys who had said that if women want to get nominated. in the past, I think he had said that if women wanted to get nominated more, they should step up. And he's also been accused of sexual violence. And Phoebe Bridgers explained all this on the red carpet while holding her Grammy and then said,

he's not dead yet, but rotten piss. Which I feel like to say that at the Grammys about the guy in charge of the Grammys is pretty special. After winning a Grammy. After winning a Grammy. Yeah, yeah. All right. Now, can we talk about how we literally don't say any celebrities, name correctly, apparently, according to this article.

We lost. Yelin'heeloo. Yelan Yelan Yel. So, yeah, what is it again? What's Jilin Hall again? Jake Jalenhall. The correct pronunciation of the last name Jilin Hall is actually Yelan Halo.

And he says the only two places that it is pronounced correctly is in Sweden and in IKEA. Yelan Halo. But I understand why. he wouldn't want to always, you know, correct people with that one. Mm-hmm. But now I feel like Travis Kills was at the, like, he could have, like, created this in all of this hubbub because Travis Kelsey's last name is actually just Travis Kels.

I still don't believe that one. I've, every single person says Kelsey on the NFL coverage, they say Kelsey. No one's saying Yelan Halo either. It's Kells? If it's really Travis Kells, that's crazy that literally know what, I mean, talking about someone whose name is repeated over and over again right now in every single news cycle, even like political ones. And no one says Kells ever. That is wild.

I still don't believe. Part of me does not believe this eonline article. This is crazy. This may be rethink everything. Raven Simone, Raven Simonye. Yeah. Not Raven Simone. And Brendan.

Now we knew Brendan. and Fraser. I knew that one. I knew that the Fraser. I knew that one. But Adail? This one, I feel like, I think that is like, that just comes down to how you speak, though, right? Because Adel is supposed to be Adail. During a Q&A in October 2020, the powerhouse singer praised a fan for perfectly pronouncing her name as Adale. Adale. Is it because of, is it, is it, is it, which do we all just need to put on a British accent before we talk about her? Adele. Adela. Adele. Adela. Adela. Yeah, I guess it is just a British accent. of it. I'd love to start calling Ariana Grande. Grandi, though. Because, yeah, it's Arianna Grandi. What is that? I love that. That is so perfect, too, because Grande, oh, grande sounds so fancy. But at the end of the day,

you're just a grandie. Grandi ass, bitch. Yeah, you're a grandie ass, dude, SpongeBob's. Where is SpongeBob's child? That's what I want to know. I hope they're safe. I hope they're somewhere fed. They probably are. Seems like. Like the mom is responsible and very good mother. But still. And also I will say, for those of you that have ever been confused when we say SpongeBob, again, we are talking about Ethan Slater and not Tom Kenny, who is the voice of SpongeBob, which I realized we may have been crossing some wires. Oh, yeah, yeah. When we talked about that at the beginning, and it's funny because Tom Kenny also looks like a human embodiment of Spongebob.

He certainly does. As does Ethan Slater. Yes. If you were to tell somebody, watch SpongeBob, if you've never seen either of those two actors and, like, asked a sketch artist to draw a picture of what SpongeBob would look like as a human man, they could draw Tom Kenney or they could draw Ethan Slater and both would be correct. But, yes, Tom Kenney, different generation comes from Mr. Show, did the actual voice like decades long, beloved comedian. Ethan Slater, guy from Wicked who left his wife and baby. Randy. Randy.

And the singer Chadee is actually is pronounced Charday. Sharday. Are you out of your mind? I can't get over it. I can't get over it. Charlize they're on. They're in.

Charlize therein. Yeah. That I feel like I had heard. I knew that we were all saying her one run. It's so I can't get over it. Yeah. Amanda Cyphrid. Cyphrid.

I knew we were saying. There's a lot of these where I knew we were doing it wrong, but I didn't know how to do it right. And this was surprised me, Anya Taylor Joy, it's Ania. Anya Taylor Joy. Yeah, that's just like, that's, it's like, it's Anya. You know, I'm sure that she's not a bitch about it, but I feel like if you're like, you're going to assume that this is a name that you heard before, but it's slightly different.

I feel like that's what this list is. It's people that aren't pieces of shit about how their name is supposed to be pronounced or like, or they just don't care and it's just something that does, you know. I think it's a timetay situation where they hate. how it's supposed to be said and they like how other people say it yeah yeah because it doesn't seem like anyone on this is like taylor loutner like i don't think that he's you know he's not all the girls that are running up to him calling him jacob i don't think he's like um actually actually is lottner not my wife's name is taylor is he british and then he starts talking like that

you know no no he's not at all yeah i don't think maggie and jake are running around going Excuse me, were they Yelin'Hales? Yelanelanos. Well, maybe they're just trying to avoid awkwardness, or maybe they're a liar. It's time for the celebrity conspiracy. Hit me with the share. Whoa, do you believe it? Is Sidney a liar?

Ooh. Yeah, she is, but about weird stuff. This one comes in from Courtney, who writes, Hi, all. Saw the below TikTok linked on Reddit and would love to hear your thoughts. I watched the hot ones and she didn't really answer the question, but I also didn't think much of it at the time. I like the idea of celebs lying about jobs to try and appear more relatable, a little foreshadowing of what's about to come. She was recently on Hot Ones and they asked her about her having mentioned before, having worked as a tour guide for Universal Studios. a lie.

If I've ever heard one. The Reddit post links to a women's health article about Sydney in which she talks about cleaning bathrooms and being a tour guide at Universal Studios to make Innsmeet in her early days in L.A., eventually overcoming those hideous day jobs, ew, to become a TV and filmic actress star performer.

Whoa. The post also shows a video on TikTok from the Becca Murray. It's very frantic. Her energy is wild. In which the talker brings up how in recent interviews, including her Hot Ones appearance, they ask her about this tour guide gig,

and she acts all weird and evasive every time. The Becca Murray then goes on to talk about how she herself was a tour guide at Universal for seven years. It's an incredibly difficult job to get. You actually have to go through this whole, like, crazy audition process. It's, like, wildly tough to, like, and there's, like, lifer tour guides who work there. Universal Studios also pitches the gig as, like, a networking opportunity,

which is ridiculous. But that's how they pitch it. Therefore, if Sidney even worked an hour as a tour guide, at least according to the Becca Murray, Universal Studios would own the fuck out of that. They would be screaming about that to the high heavens.

If she worked a single day or a millisecond as a tour guide there, they would be like, Sidney Sweety was once, you know, they would just, that would be such a big part of their, like, you know, portfolio history or whatever,

right, at this point. They would just be making a huge deal out of the fact that she started there and then became a success. She is also claimed, by the way, Sidney Sweeney has claimed she speaks fluent Russian. She seems to evade any request for her to actually speak it in previous interviews when people go like, give us some Russian. She'll like evade it. She also claims she was self-taught the language in high school. It's giving me really big Jamila Jamil vibes, right? Wasn't that the one?

Yeah. On a smaller scale, Jamila seemed a really good. take huge swings with lies, like, on a level that this is not quite, but I think she's a fucking liar, bro. What do you guys think? Wow. I mean, I really like her, and I don't want to think she's a pathological liar, but I don't know. I mean, what a weird thing to lie about. I speak Russian. Yeah, she's too beautiful not to believe. That's what I say. I think pretty people can't lie. That's the thing. I was going to say that, and then I was a it would sound too mean, but she's so hot, I can't trust her.

I know that's the problem. She's so hot. Oh, is that the opposite of what you said, Jackie? Whoops. That's the opposite of what I said. Oh, I thought you would open the door for me, but you actually had slammed it. I will also say, I meant what you said, but I said the opposite. I think that I think I'm so scared of people that are so beautiful that I'm just like,

whatever you say. Oh, yeah. Oh, you speak Russian. That's great. Like I've immediately become 13 year old me with the like huge twinky shirt on with like cargo shorts on. I'm like, Yeah, Sidney, sweetie. Yeah, you speak Russian.

I bet you do. Because she's beautiful in that specific way that remind, maybe it's also because of her white lotus character. But like, and I didn't, I haven't even watched you for you. But she's, she's beautiful in the specific way that reminds you of being intimidated by beautiful women when you don't feel like you can talk to that. You know, like there's a, she is. You're in the locker room. Yes, exactly. Like when you see, you're just there.

You're in that space, feeling uncomfortable about yourself on every level. Yes. When you just look at her. Right. Yeah, for sure. But she's so awesome and talented. So it's not, you're not even like, I can't stand that bit. You're like, it's like we're talking about.

I'll tell you. She gets my bone wrenching. Yeah. Just. Just. Awuga. Yeah. It's a bit of an awuga situation.

Big time. Auga, yeah. But yeah, that's why I have to knock her down a peg because of that. You know what I mean? That's why I have to be like, yeah. but she's a liar. Oh, good. That's a good way to go about it, Holden.

Oh, good. That's my thing. That's me going back into nice guy territory in high school. I'm like, yeah, well, she's not perfect. She fucking lies. I like this woman, so there must be something wrong with her. Yeah, exactly. That's why I can be disgusted.

Why I'm disgusting because she's alive. Oh, that's scary, Holden. Yeah. In hell together. You're scary. I'm back to not believing. We're team, Team Sydney over here.

We've got to be. You're a liar, Sydney. You've got to protect her from young. And I know it doesn't matter at all unless you're lying about like 9-11 or something, but you're a fucking liar and now I know it and I'm clocking you girl. I am clocking you.

No, I can't wait to hear her speak in Russian and then you're all going to be eating your stew. I like stew. I'd love a stew. Especially right now in this rainy weather. Oh, God, can you get on, make it up, whip it up a stew? I made an Italian wedding soup last night

with a bunch of meatballs. Oh, got that pastini in there? I'm weirdly craving meatballs. It's weirdly craving meatballs. It's weird you said that I'm craving them right now, man. I want to do. I got you. Oh, my God. You can't have any of them.

Why can I have some of your wedding? So I know you made like eight vats of it probably. Well, we have to have something for the winter months, the many winter months we're facing in L.A. No, Italian wedding. It's an Italian wedding. I know. And you make it up for an entire Italian wedding. Oh.

Who's on the list. Checking. Gotta have that list. Famous actors who got their parts by doing something a little different. And we're not just talking about S&Ds. We are talking about, which this one, I think a lot of people know,

Harrison Ford was spotted by George Lucas while doing a carpentry job for Francis Ford Coppola and got himself the role in Star Wars. That's amazing. I did not know that. Oh, hell yeah. I'm glad that I shared that. I was like, oh, I just run past this one.

And I thought this was like, yeah, Jackie, everybody knows that he was a carpenter. Oh, no. No, I can be the dumb, dumb who doesn't know yet, all right? That's me in a lot of times. No, no dumb, dumb, don't talk about my friend MJ like that. But did you know that Jason Momoa did the Haka for his Game of Thrones audition? So I didn't know this. To convey in the audition that he could be like Cole Drago,

Mamoa, like Billy Elliott, they said, use dance to get his message across. That is such a weird way of describing the Haka. By the way, it's so not a dance. It's just like Billy Elliott. It's just a dance. Oh, he mesmerized them with his dance. That's, I'm not reading the rest of that.

I'm mad at the rest of that paragraph. I refuse to read the rest of it. This I don't quite understand, but I mean, I guess good for him. Ryan Gosling wasn't considered good looking. that is why he was cast in the notebook. What? He was told, you're not handsome, you're not cool, you're just a regular guy who looks a bit

nuts. Which I don't agree. I think Ryan Gosling is a very attractive thing. He seems incredibly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what they were talking about, but, you know, that's what got him the job. Wow.

But racism and anger helped Samuel L. Jackson in this one point in time because he was so mad. after being mistaken as Lawrence Fishburn that he smashed the audition for Pulp Fiction. After he was close to losing his role to another actor, Jackson flew to L.A. for another audition where he was incorrectly addressed as Lawrence Fishburn. This infuriated Jackson even more so that he delivered that rage into his audition.

He also did so while eating his takeaway, which was a burger. Nice. I mean, yeah, that's fun. That's a good origin story. It's a fun origin story. and Tim Roth's origin for reservoir dogs was a little drunker than you would expect.

As he was bad at auditioning, Tim Roth refused to read for the part of Mr. Orange. Quentin Tarantino took Roth to a local pub and the two continued to drink. While drunk, they proceeded to read the entire script every part in about 10 times because they were hammered and he said that's how he got the job.

Love it. That's like every drunk actor's dream. He's also like horribly shocked. He's got like the whole, he's got like a bullet in his belly for most of the movie. I mean, it flashes back and forth, so he's also not, like, bleeding out the entire time. But it's a very, like, thinking about it, it's like, yeah, you could see him actually getting hammered just to do that part of the movie because it's just like, oh, fuck, man. I'm looking to cry. Yeah.

He's very, like, very drunk seeming. Very drunk seeming. This, I think, makes a lot of sense. Harvey Stevens, the kid that played Damien in the Omen, kicked the director in the balls. After two days of auditioning, director Richard Donner decided to change it up. When it was young Stevens turned to audition,

he was encouraged to attack the director in the same way the character does in the film. Stevens took this literally, scratched at his face and kicked him right in the balls, and that is how he got the role of Damien. Beloved. All right. Amazing.

Good for him. So when you're sending in your kids, tell him, always attack the director and get them the role every time. Did you know, Kit Harrington, I don't think he got punched in the face to get the role, but he did get punched in the face

before auditioning for the role. Kit Harrington got punched in the face in a McDonald's, and his black eye helped convince directors he could survive in the violent world of Game of Thrones. Kit Harrington was in a McDonald's with his date when things turned ugly

rather quickly. A fight ensued, and Harrington was gifted a black eye. Ironically, when he turned up to his audition, Harrington thought that his black eye helped him get the role so he didn't cover it up. A lot of Game of Thrones coming up in today's episode. I wonder if we're manifesting right now. Are we manifesting or are we?

The winds of winter is upon us. My God, is it coming back? I mean, Wins of Winter, he's still writing it. Like, I think last I saw he was like 70% done or something. I don't know, but that means nothing. But yeah, I think it's still going to come out. I mean, I kind of, it's weird how quickly that show or that series in general disappeared from our world. It was like the most important thing.

Everybody had merch. Everybody was like, I drink wine and I know things. It was just this such a massive. Yeah, people naming their kids, Calisi and everything. Yeah. People naming them. Yeah, dragon and dragon egg. There's like four dragon eggs at the, uh, the,

dance class we take one or two. It's crazy. And so yeah, you know, I kind of want him to go back, like to bring it back because it ended so ho-humly,

obviously. We all know that the, they completely, oh, it was a ho and a-hunt. Batched the fuck out of the TV show at the end. So it'd be great because he could literally like rewrite history,

literally, like he could rewrite a better ending. And then we'll all go, huzah, you know? Well, I'll be so excited. But anyways. But will he do it? No, it's just a feudal fools

brigade. Yeah, you live a folly's life. It's a folly's life for me. It certainly is. And last but not least, because if we're going to be manifesting here, David Borellas was walking his dog past a friend of the Buffy

the vampire slayer rider. Oh my God, the guy who plays Angel. Yes. We are actively falling in love with Angel. MJ and I are over on our Buffy watchalong over on the Patreon. But apparently Angel got the role because he was a neighbor of the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer writer Marty Knoxin, who needed to cast someone who was impossibly handsome. Boreanis just happened to be walking by with his dog and was then eventually called in for an audition.

And apparently the woman in the room responded really, well to him and he got the role. I feel like this list needs to be hidden from aspiring actors because it's all just like so awesome and perfect and what everybody dreams of. Like I'll just be walking by and I'll just have the right look, right?

And like usually, that's kind of like the lore but I feel like it's so rare that that actually happens and that's literally like what happened Rosario, Rosario Dawson was all just sitting on her stoop and was spotted. Angel spotted. Margot Robbie. Margo Robbie was just walking down a beach and was just like literally

was like, you're beautiful. Do you want to be a model? I will say with her, though, I think that would happen about 20 times. If she said no, 19 times it would happen 20 times. You know what I mean? Like she's so like absurdly gorgeous. But yeah, it's

not what the reality at all ever for pretty much anybody except for these like 20 people on this list. Yeah, right. The 20 times that's happened. It's all people on this list. Out of millions of potential times. Yeah, exactly. but good list Jackie

Good list. Thank you guys. Hell yeah. Oh, also wait, we should plug it more too. Yeah. Did we say Patreon.com forward slash page 7 podcast? I just want to give a special shout out. There is an episode coming

for the Buffy Watchalong in which let's just say a giant grasshopper makes a prey mantis, please. How dare you? Sorry, mantis hands up. A praying mantis tries to make a boy coming a bunch of giant mantis. antis eggs.

And I talk about, oh, are we falling in love with Angel? Maybe. Are we falling in love with that giant praying mantis? Yes. And the concept of coming on giant eggs, a hundred percent. So definitely look out for that one. We talked about it for many hours on Jack and last Friday. It kind of became the running joke.

Many jokes about coming on eggs. We pretended to be a praying mantis. I know. Even I have it in my head. They sang Phil Collins, but we wrote it to, oh, I can feel. coming on the eggs tonight. I am a little mantis. I wasn't even there.

It's a vine. I should post the video. I forgot I took the drums of the video. You sent it to me. That is so funny. I definitely am sad into here that there is no Mantis meta going forward. The Mantis never returns.

Never returns. It made me want to stop watching the show. We will continue for it. And I'm here for Angel. and apparently we're going to fall in love with Spike, MJ. Apparently we need to gird our loins for Spike's arrival in season two. I'm sorry, S2. Holden only refers them as S2E3, I believe.

And in S1, we get Ms. Calendar in a few episodes. So I'm excited. That's supposed to be my loin. You get your bone or we get ours. There you go. Yeah, that's the thing. One for me, two for you. That's the whole idea.

I love this. Yes. All right, let's get into it because I can't even see. my boner right now because I think I'm going Blind! We can't see them! This one name permanent A-list singer created a huge uproar back in the day with this also permanent A-Lis singer, but actually hooked up with the third

singer who was not discussed as much during that uproar. Again, caused a huge uproar with one singer, but there were three on the stage. It was one of actually the biggest pop culture moments from, what, a decade or so ago? You're talking about the Christina Aguilera, Brittany, favorite Madonna? Yes. So apparently,

everyone was talking about how Brit and Madonna made out on the stage, even though she totally makes out with Christina right after that. Apparently Madonna and

Christina later got some loynage going. Madonna and Christina. And that slipped past everyone's radar for 20 years? Yep. And it's just now

making it into this blind item. I'm sure it's 100% the truth. Breaking news. It's 100% the truth. Man, this is such a weird, weird one. This is another strange hookup one.

This industry plant rapper, the blind items are calling him an industry plant, not me, and the married permanent A-list actress certainly seemed more than chummy at a recent event. Quite a bit older, with quite a bit younger, the actress,

big smile. The rapper, oh, he is white, and he wraps his little heart out these days. Big smile. The actress, she is, right now maybe not as, but she's dominant actress.

Julia Ross. But then I was like, wait, what? Older, no, a younger rapper, younger than her. She's the old. So she's the older one. She's the older one. The rapper is young. The rapper is a name I didn't start hearing

until like a year or so ago when he featured on another young, big time. Jack Harlow. Yes. White Boy Summer. Jack Harlow. Julia Roberts.

Huh? Whoa. I know that Jack Harlow didn't actually propose white boy summer, but since he was the example given by Chet Hanks, I can't look at Jack Harlow without thinking White Boy Summer. White Boy Summer. I threw one of his albums on. I remember I was going home from the airport. Like lately I've been trying to make an effort to be like, what should I do right now?

I want to listen to music. Oh, I should actually sit down and like, he's. or something that seems to be a big deal in the zeitgeist that I haven't really listened to. I listened to it. I wasn't like blown away by it. I kind of understood it though. But it's just very like, I don't know,

I feel like it's music made for guys in their 20s that are really like horny that are. White boy summer. Yeah, exactly. That are maybe like, I don't know, that are fragile, but they're trying to cover it up with false masculinity. I don't know, maybe.

I like him ever since his collaboration with, collaborating with Lil Nas X, though. I feel like he's not, I feel like that really, from being mentioned by Chet Hanks to then collaborating with Lil Nas X kind of redeemed. It's the trifecta. Yeah. Just showed me that he's not like a homophobic or, you know,

at least. But wait, so he's sucking on Julia Roberts? Word on the street. Her breasts, her toes, everything. Her lady is. I do think he's hot. I have a hard time getting hot for men in their early to mid-20s, but I do think he's a handsome man.

Apparently he's obsessed with Labias. He just has pictures of them all over his apartment. He just cannot get over. Just all kinds. The sheer design of it. Yeah, just the human design of the Labia. Honestly, kind of nice to hear. Yeah.

Somebody's got to appreciate him. I mean, I'm completely making it up, but it is fun to think about. All right. And last but not least, the actresses people now believe because of the success of the movie, which she top-lined,

she deserves to be paid more than the one-named actress on the paid cable show and won't be coming back unless she gets it. Paid cable show. Zendaya. Sidney. Yes. We're coming for you, Cindy. I'm coming for you.

By we, I mean, I, because I'm the one who chose these. Sydney, you liar, greedy, greedy, greedy, liar, greedy liar, greedy liar. Oh, she's not. She's not. She's so hot. She's like the hottest. Her success with what movie? with, oh, anyone but you

was actually really successful that movie she did with the guy that she's, that I brought a blind. You might be not be cheating with. Yeah, that I brought a blinded last week, I think, with talking about how she's banging the co-star.

You are gunning for her. Why are you going after a girl? It is. She is that girl. I wanted so bad in high school and my reaction to not being able to be with her is to be mean.

And this is, we're happy for your self-awareness because that is the first step that a lot of men have not taken. So, yes, I'm glad that you're aware of it. The next step I refuse to take. I want the anger to flow through me. I want to be clear. You know what, give it changing. Wanted to give me powers. No, I refuse.

No, Sydney, you seem cool. I don't know why I've thrown you under the bus so hard today. Throw it under the tour bus that you lie about driving. Whoa. I think it's very funny that I don't know why, but I love when someone is a liar but about like weird little things. And then it's like they just make their lives uncomfortable for no reason. And then this is, I can see this, but I think it's insane because it's not like Zendaya isn't also a massive movie star. I was going to say Zendaya isn't Dune right now.

Yeah. And then fucking Spider-Man. Yeah. You can't. That's insane to actually be like, I should give more money. The romantic comedy I did, the one movie I did was very, you know, pretty damn success. But it was. It was quite successful.

I think 150 million or. It's still in the movie here. I think it's even low. Really? Yeah. It's still in the movie theater. I would say, yeah, I mean, they're both stars. I guess I would say that Zendaya is a bigger star.

Yeah, sure. But that is because of Spider-Man and do. I think, I think just technically, Sydney Swainer's hotter like right now, technically. but I agree with you. Yeah. The Zendaya on the whole. But like give it literally a month when Zendaya is in Dune

and then it's going to completely eclipse her. Zendaya's world. Sydney Sweeney's just living in it. And you know, Sue is this could be this could be an obnoxious manager agent situation, not a obnoxious Sweeney, Sydney Sweeney situation.

Whatever, you're cool. I like you, I think. I need to watch that hot ones. I actually do need to watch that hot ones. Oh, she's really fun. That's the thing. She's very cute. That's the thing about her.

She has that like, oh, you're going to be mean to me to meet to meet because you're so. beautiful look and then you watch her and she's just she's so nice she's really nice bitch and she serves like down home whatever her family's a bunch of Trumpies I remember that so take that Swindney's shots why am I why do I keep I can't yeah you're being it's my nice guy it's my it's my late and nice guy that still lives in me from middle and high school it's still again the first step is noticing I notice I am feeling and then you let it make you powerful And then you

And then you're noticing You lean into it And you let it power you To new levels of hatred No No Hold it Whatever

I'm gonna talk bad about Oh I see a blind on About you guys right here These two Podcast co-hosts are mean Other podcasts And they should be dropped Breaking news

And they should be turned into Jokers By being dropped into a vat Green goo Wouldn't that be wonderful? God, we would love that. Free me from this life. Please put me in the goo.

I'm ready for the goo. All right. This has been a fun one, guys. I could see you again. I've had a lot of fun this morning with you too. Welcome back. Congratulations. Hell yeah.

Yes, I'm so glad we made it through guys together. And I'm sad because we're not going to go watch Buffy right now. But we are here and we will be watching Buffy over on patreon.com forward slash page seven podcast every Tuesday. come hang out with us and and on Thursdays they've been watching it over on the discord because our Thursday crew is unbelievable. So go hang out on the discord as well. My name is Jackie Zabrowski.

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