Page 7 - Ep. 525: That's Gen X for Ya, Baby

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

This week Jackie, MJ, and what appears to be Pedro Pascal goss' 'bout Beyoncé getting accused of lifting the Franklin theme song for "TEXAS HOLD 'EM", Jackie and MJ head down the G Flip Slippery Slide, Machine Gun Kelly blacks out his nipples (and a good bit of the rest of his body), MJ's watchin' Full House with the kidz and it's brought up some very 90's conversations, Holden lays down his rules for inbox management and starts a chat about email and text etiquette, Olivia Rodrigo starts the "Fund 4 Good" to support women and reproductive rights (speaking of Olivia, Page 7 will trade their friendship for GUTS tickets), Beyoncé is the first black woman to achieve #1 status on top 100 with a country song AND her unreleased song DONK is trending on TikTok, and in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner: The truth about Cheugy!?!?! A fact filled list that's upsetting, Blindz, SHOUTS AND MOOOOORE! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hold on to your horses. No, Beyonce's not here. It's just Jackie. This in Texas, oh, in no holum. Hey, the leucas down, down, down. The bucket of Lexus, oh, and so yorky. I'm not for debate, but I would say what Jackie just did is not country music. In fact, I would say what Jackie just did is not music.

Why? He got pizzazz on it. Well, what I literally just said to MJ was, I cannot sing this properly. I can't make it sound like Beyonce. However, this song has been trapped in my head for so long, specifically that beginning part. I wonder why. Why? Is it everywhere, Jackie?

Yes. The answer is yes. And I can't sing it properly because she's just so talented. I can't get down there. But have you guys seen how it is, people are comparing it to the theme song for the children's cartoon Franklin. Can you refresh my memory with Franklin? It was not even, this is not even a current kids thing. It was like a kids show when we were kids. Oh, I remember Franklin. And I didn't remember the theme song. I had to go on TikTok to look and people are just doing a lot of side by

sides and the intro to Franklin, the children's television show that was, I believe, on Nick Jr. He's a turtle. What? He's got a shield. Very similar. Hey. That's not. That's not. God what it is. No, and I don't think, I don't think it's like an accusation that Beyonce, like, stole it from Franklin. But I think it's just, uh. I can't get out of my head. Flowers, in my opinion, and I guess, I think Jaggy disagree with me on this, but flowers to me is just, it's a wonderful life.

Uh-oh. It's a wonderful life. Uh-oh. I can hear it. I can hear it. I can buy my sunflower. Oh, oh. It's a wonderful life.

Uh-oh. Yeah. I mean, I will listen to that mash up, though. I can't not. hear that song when I hear flowers and I'm just like, am I in the early aughts? Like, what's going, like, I think that there is such a thing as a song that makes you get a different song in your head. Yeah. Right? And it doesn't mean that they're like plagiarized or whatever. There's probably like a German word for that. Like, yeah, it's a concept.

A similar song, but that is different. For me, all summer, because I wasn't as the Swifty then that I am now all summer I had the other cruel summer in my head. It's a cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel summer. Every time people paid for Holden to do that karaoke on Jacking with the Holdies, I always expected it to be that cruel summer. Yes, because until this cruel summer has replaced that cruel summer. And now G-Flips version has replaced that version. I know.

In our house, we are in an active debate about whether G-Flips version is better than Taylor's version. Bro. Have you gone down the slippery slope? It sounds like someone might be dead to me very soon. Go on. No, no, you've got to go down the G flip, slippery slope. It is slippery.

Exactly. I was going down that slope. Jackie's slope is particularly slippery. Your slope is slippery. I'm going to, like I've got to cross my arms over my chest. It's such a slippery slope. It is just gushing. And I got to get out the nets.

Yeah. Because I'm the fish. Right. And I'm fine with it. It's a slope. It's a slope. It's a slope. But I will say G-Flips videos that they post are particularly, especially the one that I sent to you,

because they were singing a song to their wife, Crishel. And I just, man, I've never wanted to be Crishell before, but move over, selling sunset. I'll start selling your houses. You give me a house. I'll sell it. I'll say it's got doors. It's got windows. You can sleep inside of it.

It's so hot, especially because Crishell doesn't, you know, and sorry to be like a judgey Susan, but Chrishell doesn't look like the kind of lady that would be with a G-flip, and so that just makes it so much hotter to me. Whoa. Whoa, what do you see? She's just so fancy, she looks like she would be with

like, she does. She's very good. She's very good. I'm like, the kind of person like a Kardashian would date instead of like a G-flip. You know what I mean? So it just is like so hot. It's true that dating G-flip immediately makes someone much hotter. So much cooler. Makes Grishel much hotter. Yeah, I would have definitely looked at her and made certain judgments and I see her next to G-Flipp, and I'm just like... Yeah, and then you're like, all right, you're cool.

Yeah, you got the spice. Oh, my God. Them on the, like, on the red carpet and, like, G. Phillips just behind Crishel, like, trying to place her dress on the red carpet, just following behind Griselle, even though people are not there to talk to Crishel. And that makes me, oh, my... Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

I'm slipping away. Everybody do yourself a flavor if you have. have not Google searched Grishell and G-Flipp to see pictures of them together on the red carpet. Go ahead and do it. It's great. Mama-mia, here I come again. My, my, oh, how gozy I am. The slope is getting slippery over there.

That's the thing, that's what they say about G-flip. The reason why, you know why they're called G-flip? Why? Because the way they manipulate the G-spot makes you do flips. You go, oh, whoa, you just start flipping around the roof. Two thumbs up. I got over here, baby. Yes, and please.

I thought about, yo, G-flop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, we're not even, I don't even know how we started talking about G-flip. It's just, it's not in the articles. It's not in the articles. We actually got there from Flowers being

It's a Wonderful Life. Oh, oh, oh, oh. It's a wonderful life. My TikTok is so seeped in both G-flip video. as well as love is blind conversations because the eye it lingers, it's not my fault. I have to watch all of their TikTok. Like, I have to see their rebuttals.

I can't be, I can't be kept out of it. All I have to say is I have been told I look like Patriot Pascal. Sorry that I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, just by whom? Just a lot of people, just random people, non-random people, industry types. I mean, I don't see it personally. Like, I don't think they look like Pedro Pascal,

Well, I have brown hair, so I don't really get the issue. Oh, yeah, you do have brown hair. And a mustache and a beard, which he tends to have. Yeah. You are a fun drunk, I would say that about you as well. I have a tiny little green creature that I carry around with me and try to unlock the secrets of the universe with. Of course, I'm talking about grongy. I think it's very, oh, I was about saying, it was like, don't talk about Lexi. That is not very nice, and we will tell her.

We were talking before we started recording about how everyone has peep celebrities. have been told that they look like. It's fine. And it's great. You can carry it around as a little feather in your cap a compliment. Somebody told me I look like Megan Fox at the airport. You can keep that, you can even share it with others. But if you are trying to describe how you look, if somebody says, tell me like what three,

remember there was a while there was like, put three celebrities of who you look like to get like. This is a fun conversation we can have. Yeah, yeah. For MJ, I would say Bill Paxton, Howard the Duck. And that alligator villain, the crocodile, Australian crocodile villain and T. Andrew Ninja Turtles. No, mine are the three Culkin brothers. But congratulations, by the way, MJ.

That's quite a triple. That's quite a triple. Yeah. That's a good triple. I look a lot like a Culkin. But also, we were, I would, I have heard, I have gotten from people, Sirisha Ronan. I would never tell someone if they don't know what I look like and they want to date me. That's a great example.

do think you look like her. Yes. I do think you do. You look like Zerjuron. But I would not look at two pictures of you and go, oh my God, are they siblings? If you were hoping to have sex with me and then you saw me, you would be a little bit disappointed. Yeah. If Sorcia Roman was a 12-year-old boy, then yeah. Yeah, that's the thing.

You got to take either a Kieran or a McCulley, not now from when they were young. And then you got to combine it with Sirsher Ronan, and that's how you get both my gender and how would I look like. Just in case. Yeah, actually, that's really good. A Colkin mixed with Sorosurotid. Yeah. Just, by the way, in case, I feel like we talked about this last week, but there is a contestant classically in this season.

It's all the talk because she in the pod said, people tell me I look like Megan Fox and men are so dumb. And their penises are even stupider than even their brains. And so he heard that and just like was like, oh, well, I guess I'll pick her because people tell her she looks like Megan Fox. And he was choosing between her, who honestly too, what's so funny is like in any normal situation, she's a pretty gal. Totally. But he chose her over like literally like a smoke show.

You're going to be an epipen after you see me. I'm so hot. I loved that. Well, she knows it. Apparently, according to her, she said she like blacked out during that. Really? I was so upset. I had so, like, there was booze inside of me and I was like having so many emotions.

the cameras, I'm hot, and that EpiBenz, she's like, I don't even remember saying that stuff. And I could only imagine. She is. When he, when she was saying that to him, in my head, I'm like, I cannot wait for him to meet this woman in person because it will happen. He will go. He's going to see what she looks like.

And he should realize that he's not blind. Yeah, that's what he's going to immediately realize. He chose the wrong person because she had a kid and the other one said they looked like Megan Fox. with the easy road slash the thinking with the dumbest part of his penis head road because of the mega foxing and now

he's like he's like oh no but love is blind is just like it has absorbed my life I was so upset because I thought last week we were going to get six episodes we only got three and also you want to hear dirty dirt wow next week

or this week we get two episodes and then we get the finale next week the reunion well the finale or the reunion. This says finale, so I don't know. Yeah, and then you get the reunion usually like a little bit later. Yeah, this season of Love is Blind is really, it's all I can think about. Jackie and I had been texting each other extensively. But wait, Jackie, you also said that you have a celebrity lookalike that you get, but which is interesting to me because I would have never guessed that celebrity look like. I also don't understand it and I've received it many times as a people have said that

I look like Melissa Joan Hart. And can you imagine looking at a picture of me and being like, oh yeah, Melissa Joan Hart, I would really, really let someone down if they saw me afterwards. There's almost no celebrity that you can compare yourself to without letting someone down.

Like someone will be disappointed. It's such a weird, and then it becomes weirdly insulting. I always get lassie, which I don't really do. I mean, well, that. Honestly, you're dependable. Like, I get that. And also, you know, like, you've got, like, beautiful hair. It's got a nice sheet to it.

I can see that, yeah. I was hesitant to make a lassie reference, by the way. Do even, does people still get a lassie reference in 2020? I think we're the last generation that knows about lassie. The elves of money deals. You should always look up how many lassies die. Why are you always telling us about the animals who have died, Jane? I can't not think about it, you know?

It's real Melissa Joan Hart behavior. Oh, you mean Sabrina the teenage witch? I wish. Well, I'm looking at her. I'm looking at her naked on the cover of Maxim. And I am squinting really fucking hard. But I am, you know what? Spit an image.

You can see it. Yeah, you can see it. Thank you. I don't see. I'm trying to think of what celebrity you do remind me of. Because everyone has a celebrity doppelganger. But I actually think that you're significantly hotter than Melissa Joachard. Oh my God.

Yeah, I'm trying to come up with like joke ones. and they're too insulting, but I'm trying to come on with real ones. And I don't know, Jackie, Jackie, you're you. You're so... Oh my God, I'm not like the other girls. I am a bit of a Bella. I don't like music. I like to just sit and stare and I don't want to be loved properly.

And I want you to make sure that sex is something that is scary and only used to make weird half vampire children. I always forget about the music thing. Saying you don't like music to me makes you the most... like boring, uninteresting, unlikable person. She's not like the other girls. I get that, but I just feel like there's so many other ways

for her to be not like the other girls. She could like only listen to classical music or something to be not. It's why I always bring it up. It's my favorite fact, quote, unquote, about Bella Swan. What a weird one. Canonically hates music.

And I know there are like reasons why and it's like, oh, it's because of like all these other. At the end of the day, she said, I don't, she doesn't like the snow, she doesn't like the rain, and she doesn't like music. It is like the opposite of Love is Blind because there's, there's many a great TikTok satirizing Love is blind. But Love is honestly, it'll be someone in the pods with another person and the first person will be like, about me. I, you know, I listen to music a lot and the other person will be like, you're kidding. I love music. And they'll be like, you like, you like, you like, you like music?

Oh my God. I love music, you know. So I feel like that's, you know, Bella is just. just stepping out of that formula for us. Yes, because she's, she's just different than the other girls, just like me. All right, Melissa Joan Hart, leave me alone. We're not the same. And I will not be your stunt double anymore.

I would be so good at being a stunt double, by the way. Ah! No! No, didn't you send us an article this week about how, about, oh, it was about Sylvester Stallone and all the people who've hurt themselves very seriously doing stunts? Oh yeah, no, I actually don't want to. I mean, I do have a sister-in-law that works in stunts, and it's very difficult, and I actually genuinely could never do it. Yeah, people tell me all the time that you look just like a stunt double.

It's crazy. Thank you. Man, I had a Pilates instructor once that she was like really small and like a petite woman, and she was pure muscle, and she did all the stunt doubles for children in movies. Wow. I'm working all the time, and I was like, that makes so much sense. And like she was just this like tiny tiny. I was like, man, you're so muscular to be an eight-year-old though. I don't know how you would do it.

But very impressive. That's awesome, actually. We need a tidy, strong adult. We could throw off a bridge. Man, if I could do backflips, I would backflip out of so many rooms. Just as your, that would be your exit. Yeah. That's my thing.

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You beautiful babies. And I'm certainly not going to be looking like this celebrity anytime soon, and that would be Machine Gun Kelly. with the blackout tattoos. Now this discourse is very interesting. Well, I don't think he's trying to turn himself black Twitter. You fucking weird. This is one of those examples where the New York Post found like two tweets. Literally two tweets.

Every article you send now, Jackie, half of the article is idiots. I never want to know in real life's opinions about the fucking article. I know I brought this up before. You really have to be careful about that now. I know I brought this up before. But it is so aggressive now. I mean, every article, the word count, is doubled just by,

let's go find three tweets from complete. And you can't even now, you can't even see a blue check and be like, well, at least they like have a, some kind of a career that matters. You know what I mean? It's, and I'm, it's so bad. Like, it's, journalism is implode. Online journalism is imploding, you know, vice closed last week. Like there's, there's, so all of the media companies that were, that kind of

of like people were, you know, 10 years ago were kind of driving a lot of the discourse that admittedly people were annoyed by at the time. Like, you know, but there's just no online journalism anymore. And there's no reporting anymore, there's no investigation anymore, there's just none of that anymore. So all there is is articles quoting tweets, you know,

and that's been happening for a while, but now it's like, especially these celebrity things, it'll be like, maybe this is a story, Machine Gun Kelly trying to turn himself black. It's just like, this is not even discourse. Like, no one's saying this, they just found two, People who said this.

Blackout tattoos are totally a thing. I will say it did send me down the worm time of blackout tattoos. I'd always been curious about it because I started noticing them more and more often. You know, and it's definitely said to be a tribal thing that actually did come out of, I believe, Africa and different areas, that it is this like, and there's all this like symbolism meaning. I do think some of it is him wanting to cover up what he had in an interesting way. Yeah, and so maybe some past stuff. Because he did say that it's for spiritual purposes only. Well, you see the cross on his.

I actually think it looks cool. I think it looks good. I think it looks really cool. I think it looks cool. Yeah. And, you know, I do love to the tattoo artist was like he was like the toughest. Because I think another part of this is the pain. Right.

Is the sheer pain. His entire arms, he has full sleeves with like some. like kind of, you know, like cut like designs. I'm trying to, it would be like a screen print almost. Yeah. But there's like some that's not black. But then his entire arms, his entire shoulders, chest, up to his neck and then down to like below his pecks is all black.

I just realized he got his nipples black down. Yeah, he got his nipples black down as well. And I do think that it looks cool. He is like he is, he's the celebrity that every time I look at him, I'm like, man, I don't want to be attracted to you, but I very much am. Like, he's, he is a bad boy who does it for me. I could see, I could see that. I could see that between the two of you.

And it's, it's also nice because I don't know enough about him. Like, I know that, I think that he's, I don't think he's, like, somebody who I want. I think he's, I think he's someone you want to. I don't think he's someone to want him. No, I don't think I want to, like, model myself after him by any means, but I do think that he is handsome in a bad boy way. And you just, you know, you're slurping after it. I get it.

We've all got our own, you know, I look at Rick Moranis and I slurp. You look at MGK and then you slurp. You know, we've all got our slurp sticks that we keep in our pockets. I'm a real Megan Fox. Oh my God, you're just like a Megan Fox. By the way, some people mistake me from Megan Foxx. I want to clarify too so we don't get the corrections emails.

It seems to be a Polynesian thing that started at least started there and then became very popular in South Asia during the 2010. Interesting. and has spread from there. I did not know that blackout tattoos were like a genre of tattoo. And it seems like, well, he said it took 44 needles at a time, which they're like a cross, it seems like. And man, you must go into like a meditative state

with all of that like going at the same time. It must, look, you must zen out at some point. Because there is a process of getting tattoos where you do kind of just chill out. And you're just, you give in to the pain. And you're just like, well, this is going to be me for a while. And I just got to let it ride. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

I like it. I like it. I like that it's not full blackout. Like you have those lines. So you get a peak of his old tattoos, but just like a little peek in. A little peak of the past. Yeah. Yeah.

It's neat. It also doesn't seem to be, again, correct me if I'm wrong, it doesn't seem to be like, even though this is a tradition that comes from, if it's a Polynesian tradition or whatever, but doesn't seem like this tattoo isn't in of itself like super cultural appropriation or anything, you know? No, I mean, there's definitely debates in the, in the, like, that was just the Wikipedia article I pulled up to talk about it. In that, there's one brief mention of debates around cultural appropriation from, from it

coming from like, uh, uh, Polynesian tradition stuff and tradition and then popularity in South Asia, but I don't know. I guess. I mean, you know, everything. and pro-culture appropriations. But you know what that? This is a thing. I'm not starting to do podcast.

No, no, no, no, no. It's called the real deal with Holden. The real deal. No, no, no, no, no. You want to hear the real deal. The real way things are, you got to talk to Holden. I will say this. I have been watching full house with my children,

which has been very fun. And does Kimmy get like any more annoying? Or does she get less annoying over time? Well, you know, what's weird to explain? into children is why everyone, including the adults in the household, are so cruel to her. To the children's best friend.

They're so meat. They're like, why are the adult men making fun at Kimmy so much? And I'm like, you know what? Great question. She's a child. Yeah. But we did just watch season one, episode three, in which they take a trip to Hawaii. And as we were starting it, I was like, you know what, kids, we're going to keep watching this,

but some racist things might happen in this episode. and I was right. Oh, no, what happened in the episode? She was portraying Native Hawaiians, you know, indigenous people in Hawaii as a little bit. It was not, you know, it was the 90s. It was cartoonish and upsetting. But then he gave you something to talk about.

And it was actually, I'm sure that some people are like, old MJ toilet flush Neffel over here, buzz killing Full House. But it actually, one of the reasons why watching Full House has been really fun is because I'm not censoring anything. I think I'm going to try to skip the episode about DJ's eating disorder just because like my kids don't even have a concept of disorder eating yet and I would like to protect. Yeah, you don't even want to like introduce.

Yeah, like I don't even want to be like, she's exercising and starving herself. Like I don't want them to know about that. Right. But other than that, like we've been talking a lot about Uncle Jesse and his sexism. But it's not even like a busical way. They'll just be like, why is Jesse like looking down that woman's dress? You know, it's like explicitly sexual stuff in this family show

that's just weird. But I'm not even like, I'm like, well, Jesse is like a very loving uncle who's like a very good person but also he's like learning how to treat women better. And it's been leading to some conversations. It's been fun. Oh, that's, that is actually a lot of fun.

I would love to try to explain it in such a, God, how many years has it been? Those were all done in the early 90s, right? Well, the reason I started, It was one of the kids was sick and we were just home watching constant TV so we needed to switch it up and I was like do you guys want to see a show

where it was made when I was a kid? And that was kind of like what drew because I'm the exact same age as Michelle. So I was like we started season one I was like so when I was a baby this is what the world looked like and so like it's so funny watching it with kids from now

because they're like there's a couple like there's a whole premise where somebody tapes over something. Oh my God. They have no idea. Like a whole thing with them being on a landline. What is that?

They don't even know what's a phone. You know, they don't know what's a phone. It's so funny. I can't believe we don't have a landline. It's such a weird concept. Premises where they're lost and they can't call for help. They're like, well, why don't they just use

their cell phones to call for help? So it's like a shocking thing to realize the cultural change. There was a minute there where we all were like, no, no, but you still also need a landline and that's just completely disappeared. My parents still have a landline. My mom's like, well, what?

but do you give out to people when you have to give out your number? You just give out your cell phone number? Honestly, it was like, you know, I never really thought about that. I guess she's like, yeah, then you just put the home phone on silent and then they call the home phone instead. I guess I don't get inundated. I guess this is good. Who are you guys are crazy. You guys give your number out.

You sign up for all the rewards. I'll do anything to get a coupon. If you are going to give me a coupon, I will give you my soul. I'm never giving my number. Yeah, I'm never giving my number. I'm always giving it out. You go to a clothing website. may ask for your phone number.

You got 10% off. I'll do it out. I'll do it. Yeah. Giving it all out. I'll give it all out. You know what? They already have all of my information.

Oh yeah. I don't care about that. Give me the damn coupon. I don't care about that. I don't care. My email is a mess. Take, what am I going to regret having one more company sending me emails?

See, I'm the opposite. I will go on unsubscribe sessions. I will like sit down and go through. I have a clean email. I like, you also have a clean email box. Which it looks like, it makes you look like a psychopath. I have like. Like a normal person, I have thousands and thousands and thousands of unread messages.

I just leave me. I have 57,000 emails in my inbox. Oh my God, why? They're not unread. They're just there. I do in my social, whatever, I have 4,80099 emails. In my promotions, whatever section, I have 25,000 emails. But I don't.

Oh, yeah. But in my inbox, my actual primary inbox, zip. dude, I've zero unread emails. What if you need something? What if you get emailed something and you need it? What do you do? What do you do? Search it?

Like a, what do you mean? I just search it there and then I search it. Yeah, I leave it there. Yeah, and then I search it and then it's forever. What? It's forever if I read it, if I open it. What are you talking about? Okay, if you open it, yes.

But like, let's say, for example, I needed somebody's address because I was going to their house and I was like, okay, they invited me to a party like two years ago. So I searched their last name in my email, that email will pop up and then I'll have their address. That's what I do. I'm talking about just the difference. Thank you, MJ. I'm talking about the difference in unread and red emails. Oh, you don't, but you delete your emails.

No, why would I delete my emails? They're just red. So I don't have a number. I don't have a crazy number by my inbox. That's your number of unread emails, right? No, no. I just have 57,000 total emails, which still makes me feel like something's wrong with me. How do I even see that?

Oh, I guess, yeah, I have 18,000 emails, but they're all read. 12,000 just in my in my inbox. But I also think I'm, I think I should probably do a digital decluttering. Like I don't need the email, the Gmail chat transcripts from 2014, you know, with my friends. But I leave them there. Just in case. Because what if I need to refer to them? Just in case, like sometimes you end up taking that weird trip down.

Have you ever like searched something and it pulled up a bunch of old-ass emails? Yeah. And then all of a sudden you're just like looking at old even. You're like looking at yourself from your 20s. Yes. Correspondence. Oh, yes. Like I should just type in murder fist and scroll all the way to the beginning and just see the crazy.

Because there's also some nuts email back and forwards. When people would start fighting in an email back and forth. And then you were like learning internet email. And we had one person in the group who would go unnamed. I've never met someone worse at emailing. I've never met someone worse at coming across in an email. Not like a vibe. I know exactly.

fucker. Because you're just like every time they write and you're just like, man, this makes me want to hit you in the face. I have to remember. Why are you writing like this? Like they're totally fine. They don't even mean this to come off like this. They just, they have a disease. Like I think that if they found the right doctor, they would actually get diagnosed with this weird ability to annoy people and how they come off at emails.

It's crazy. I wonder what they're like in a group chat. Do you think it's the same? No. The worst is emails. The worst is emails. It's so funny. It's like the closer you get to direct communication with them,

the better it is, right? But the further away you get, so email being kind of the furthest away is like, you just read it and you're like, why are you so, like, what is that? It's so funny. And you just have to remind yourself, you're just like, that's just them.

They have an email. That's their fore. of communication. Just something about it. Something about the way they tippy type away at that email. It's also the punctuation use because I am such a, you always know the amount of people pleaser you are, especially in our age group because like for me,

everything I write has 20 million exclamation points. And he's like, I am happy writing the email. I am always happy. I have to check myself with that because I kept trying to be like that with my mom. Everything I wrote back to her was everything. Yeah, I think a great time here. Cut to me covered in piss, and screaming a fight with Lexi, you know what I mean?

Like, but like in the text, and I'm like, you don't have to write an explanation point for literally everything you say to this woman. It's fine. Yeah, but it's worse, though, when someone uses complete correct like punctuation in their text, because then you're like, well, now you're pissed off at me.

Well, speaking of my mom, she'll put periods there and stuff, but she doesn't get that now that's loaded punctuation. Because all she's trying to do is be the most grammatically correct possible in how she writes. And I already know this about her. She like kind of looks down on people who don't use like proper grammar in. Because she's old school, right? She's like when you wrote a letter to someone in the war, you had to use proper punctuation.

Oh, I know. Or they wouldn't, you know, they wouldn't deliver it. I know. You know. But Holden in 10 years, our children. are going to be desecrating us for how we type and text or whatever. The theme messages into their brains. Neurrelink, yeah.

And so I'm just ready. I'm just ready for it to just be exhausting every, I mean, I'm already like a Luddite, and it's just going to get worse when my children know how to communicate. And they'll be like, I can't believe you don't put a period or whatever it is, you know. Right, right. When you put a period, that means you're on your period. What is that? It changed.

It changed. But yeah, so she'll, like, my mom will just simply put a period at the end of a sentence, and all of a sudden I'm like, am I in trouble? Am I grounded? Oh, God, she's mad at me. Am I grounded at 41 years old? It seems like they're mad. It's true.

And he'll cover an exclamation points again. No one has any, you know, choice but to believe you because you're shoving it down their throats. I put exclamation points in the middle of a word. Oh, yeah. Like, I can't even read this, Holden. Yeah, if it's multiple syllables, I have to throw it in just to make sure they know I'm very excited to be communicating with them about whatever the fuck we are talking about.

I'm a positive person. Thanks so much. Also, starting every email with thanks so much and ending every email with thanks so much. Sorry. Yes, I'm lots of sorry. Sorry you had to talk to me today. By the way, we have spent so much time talking about love is blind and punctuation in emails. You sit so many articles, Jackie.

There's so, well, but it was a lot of, it was a lot of scatterers. shot, but I do want to talk about good for her more like. Yes, Olivia Rodriguez launches Reproductive Rights Initiative alongside Guts World Tour. Now, of course, my TikTok is now sliding into people going to the Olivia Rodriguez shows. I know. And just going, wha. Yeah, I want to go to the show.

All right, we're offering it. This never works, but we're offering it again. if you have extra tickets for the show in L.A. Ralevier Rodrigo, you will get the full Jackie Holden Page 7 experience. We will hang out with you beforehand. We'll get drinks. We'll go, we'll eat.

We'll meet you for brunch and we'll take it from that. We'll do a whole day. We'll go watch TV with you or whatever the fuck. We'll go to six flags. Just fucking let us go to the show. Please, God, you merciless fucker. It is so. I just love her.

I love that me knowing her makes me slightly more relevant to young people. My kids hung out with a friend of theirs who's 10 over the last week. And the 10-year-old was just listening to Nonstop Olivia Rodriguez. And I was like, I know her. I know her music. I don't know her. But I think she's like- Oh God.

If you knew her, oh, they die. I know. But I just think she's such a great, like, I just think she's such a great star. And it's really, you know, it is a good for her. to be like, I'm donating a portion of my money to reproductive rights. And she, like, in the video, she says, like, this is for abortions, you know, which is like, Yes. Like, yeah, it's called Fund for Good.

She said, the fund will directly support community-based nonprofits that champion things like girls' education support reproductive rights and prevent gender-based violence. And, like, it's so important for these young pop stars to champion things like this. And it makes me so happy. Yeah. Like, and think about how, you know. Not just young artists, all artists to be championing, but, you know, things get more dicey as you get. Yeah, those old ass.

Even bigger and bigger. Those old ass artists, too. Those crickety olds, man. I like when they get out there. Their knees are all making those crunching sounds and I can hear them walking from here. You don't have to dance as much. Stop dancing. We're really worried about.

Yeah, stop, Madonna. We get it. You can shake it. But we don't want you. your bones to collapse in on themselves and turn to dust. But, like, I, you know, I think that Taylor is a pretty good example of, like, she has not shied away from ever having political, like, not that it's, you know, not that even, like, thinking that people should be able to get abortions, uh, should be an explicitly

political opinion, but right now it is. And I wonder if it's almost easier for pop stars to do something like this now that there's no Rovers's way to be like, I, this is something that needs protection or whatever. But, like, you know, there's the famous scene. the Tay documentary where she's kind of like, it's about walking that line of being like, I have my beliefs, but also I can't alienate a huge portion of my audience, you know, and so. It is walking a fine line for artists that are that bit. Yeah, right?

Which is why I also think that Taylor Swift, Zyop stuff is so funny because I'm like, this woman is trying so hard not to alienate anybody, but also I do think that she has some set of coherent politics in her head that she tries to, you know, she seems to be like an actively not bigoted person or whatever also. But yeah, so I think it's really neat that Olivia Rodriguez is like, I am 21 years old. I am of a different generation, honestly, than Daylor Swift. And like, I feel like Gen Z is just like, we believe in things. We go on TikTok, we do dances, and we talk about what we believe, you know?

Yes. And we talk about mental health and we talk about these things and I love it. And oftentimes they talk about them while doing the dances, which is always a weird one. They'll be like, a fortune should be legal. They're just like clapping about. their arms are up. So funny. Or they're dancing to a Beyonce song

that wasn't released. Interesting. That is the exact transition I was about to make. Don! We're talking Dunk right now. Talking Dunk right now. Donk is the name of the song.

It's not just me spouting gobbledygook over here. While you would think that Texas Holden would be the number one song on TikTok, because of course, Texas Holdham hit number one on the Billboard hot country songs artists and fiancee is the first black woman to be able to achieve this,

which is insane in and of itself, the year 2024, by the way, and all of the backlash she's receiving for it from radio stations and so. 2020, by the way. Well, do you remember what happened in 2019 when Lil Nas X put out, you know, Old Town Road? And back then, I thought that I was feuding with Billy Ray Cyrus, but I wasn't feuding with just just. for achy, breaky heart, still upset about that. But at the time, I was like, all right,

Billy Ray Cyrus was like, listen, if this kid wants to make a country song, then it's a fucking country song and everybody can get over it. But now I'm mad at him again because Miley is mad at him and I will always side with Miley. It's a wonderful life.

Oh, oh. It's a wonderful life. It doesn't mean that Flowers isn't a good song because that's also an amazing song. It's a great time. I hate that old. I don't like, it's a wonderful life. What?

It's also, it's a beautiful life, by the way. Yeah, it's a wonderful life is a different thing. Yeah. And your Bill's house and Jim's house. It's at that bridge where it's like it's in Bill's house. Oh, whoa. But yeah, the Beyonce thing is fascinating because I remember this.

And I actually went into my own little worm time about this. They took Old Town Road, Billboard took it off the country charts and put it on the hip hop charts, which people at the time were like, why are you doing that? Why are you doing this? of the color of the skin of the person singing the song. And it brought up all this stuff about gatekeeping and the history of how much black artists shaped country music and then how it became this gatekeeping thing. Ridiculous.

Where black artists were never considered to be allowed to be country, even though so much of the sound comes from black artists. And then, yeah, to have it to be, to have the fact that Beyonce is like, people are like, is this country? It's like, listen to the song. Yes, it is country music. What are you talking about? I just don't, I truly don't understand, but that is the beauty of having a brain that does not understand what, like, I just like, it's, it's country music. That's country music.

Listen to it. Well, everything's mixing, everything's mixing and crossing over and stuff. In fact, if anything, I would be like a lot of your country songs sound a lot like rap music these days. Have you noticed that? That a lot of the, like, newer country songs, they're like practically rapping and it's totally, oh, so you can steal it to stay relevant. but they're not allowed to make country music. Okay. Yeah.

And it's just from their privilege. And they get to say whatever they fucking want. And it just makes me. Yeah, well, it's getting into the nitty gritty of it. Shake people. But not Dolly Parton. Yeah. No.

Dallie says she thinks it's great. Because of course Dali came out and just was like completely supports Beyonce. And it is, you know, insane that you have to have to have, that Dolly Pardon even has to do this. Right. The fact that, I mean, she doesn't have to do this. She doesn't have to do anything. The fact that she chose. to do this because she felt that she had to

to support Beyonce as the queen of country music that she felt the need to come out and it's like it's sad that she felt the need to have to do that. It makes me what like there's just sometimes when I read these headlines it makes me just want to go out and be like shake my finger at people being like

oh I just want to I don't want to believe in violence but I just want dunk down the head. That's the dunk I want. Yeah that's your don't do. Give you a donk but donk is the name of the released Beyonce song that is trending on TikTok right now. Now, I don't understand how people get a hold of unreleased songs. So I guess if you have a song that you make and it's not released, then I would assume

then the people who own the music will then, then they could just release it whenever they want, but it's not released. Well, there's a lot of stuff. I mean, you know, there's a lot of stuff that goes unreleased. I mean, a lot of times these artists make, you know, double the tracks for an album. But how does it get released? Is that Beyonce choosing to do that? No, it was leaked.

It said it in the article somewhere. It was leaked. It's just a leak happens. Oh, okay. It just got out. It got out. It got out. Because it's the internet. So lots of stuff gets leaked, you know.

Pretty much every time Taylor Swift tries to do something fun with like her track list, you know, upcoming track list, it gets leaked, you know. With Maroon, she was like doing a daily, like, I'll give you a song a day and then it got leaked like halfway through. And then songs all the time get out, you know, that has. happens quite a bit. So yeah, it was just one of those.

I was confused at first, though, because I thought that this was actually Gronkees hit single, do the donkey donky don, which is, by the way, a dance where he just fucks the donkey. That's a, donk is way too funny a name

for a song for a Beyonce song. Donk is a funny ass name for a song. I wanted something like more clown-like when I listened to it. I was like, oh, okay, this is pretty bog standing. Yeah, I want it to be about someone with a horse cat,

but it was just a much, sexier than I thought it was going to do. I was kind of surprised. Yeah, I know, I need to know more about Don. Right, right. Yeah, I'll get into Donk. I'll get don't. Come on. We'll get dunk on me. We'll get Donk madness. Well, I guess are we doing the

Celebrity Conspiracy? Do we want to Diss or anything else we want to talk about before we get it to it? Dude, we've got some shit to scrape through in the leftovers then, man. We've got a lot of stuff for you guys to check us out. Yeah. There. Patreon.com. 4.S. Page 7 podcast. We'll talk about some more news. Also, don't

Don't forget to Buffy every Tuesday over on the page 7 Patreon. We are having a blast over there. It's so fun. I actually, I feel like I have such a relevant conspiracy for this week based on all the stuff we've been talking. Hit me with the share. Do you believe it? The truth about Chuggy. Chugie.

This one comes in, yes, chugie. We've all been fools, us elder millennials with our weird old canes that are all gnar. and our like magic ball that we look at. So you're an elder millennial. MJ and I are just regular millennials, by the way. Whatever it. Just regular. We're young millennials.

We're so young. This one comes in from Francis who writes, Hello, gang, long time listener. I don't know if this was brought up yet. I just wanted to let you guys know about Chugie. I'm a younger, and by the way, I should mention if you didn't hear it, we definitely talked about Chugie back in the day.

Give us a rundown. Is there a rundown of what Chugie is in the... Let me see. Well, I'll just say chugie is, it's like a referring to, it's us. It's us. It's the way we talk about trends. Like younger people will cringe about because we are older, things that like make us a little bit more out of touch. It's also a little crocs or chuggy.

You know. The way that we use Starbucks. I feel like the way that we first talked about this on the show, which I want to say was probably three years ago, is like the way that Holden will use Starbucks to describe something that's kind of like. like basic almost, right? Like chugie isn't the same as basic, but like I think pumpkin spice lattes are both basic and chuggy. And chuggy, right?

Yes. Like I think ugs are both basic and chuggy, but chuggy might have morphed. I feel like glasses of wine that say live, laugh, love, chugy. Yes. But I might be wrong because I don't know. I don't know what anybody believes or thinks.

So here's a little bit of a interesting. I feel like this gives an inside in. sometimes on how the internet can work in fucked ways. Long time, listener, I don't know if this was brought up yet. Just want to let you guys know about Chugi. I'm a younger millennial with a lot of Jin Z friends. We're right on the cusp, but the one to two year age difference feels stark when it comes to slang.

I feel like an old man whenever I use Riz or is it, it's not FR, FR, FR, it's just for real, for real, right? For real, for real. For real. Or no cap. You guys brought up Chugie a long time ago. I didn't think much of it until I used it in front of some of my younger friends. They made fun of me for making up slang,

which it felt like made up slang, by the way. And I believe I talked about it was like, this doesn't sound real. It's weird to say. Like, Riz is cool to say. I get why it became a thing. No cap is cool sounding. And it has a clear meaning.

Yes. Has a clear meaning. I love Riz because it's like, yes, this is a single slang word that evokes so much. Yeah, not only does it make sense that it's short for charisma, but Riz also just sounds. like the thing it is, right?

The Z and the N is. When you have it is. Yeah. You got that zz, you know? You're a little bumblebee. Also, by the way, Chugi is specifically supposed to be 2010. So it's girl,

it's girl boss, it's ugs, it's juicy, it's so that's really what it is. I just wanted to look up the actual definition. Apparently even saying Chugi is Chugi. Oh my God. None of my Chimsy friends

have ever used this word since y'all first mentioned on the pod years ago. My friend found a TikTok explaining that Chugi was in like two Ticot's before news sites picked it up as the next big slang word everyone's using. Curseery Reddit searches also confirm only millennials use Chugi. This is such a perfect story of out of the loop media outlets just trying to find. We were just talking about this.

Trying to make Chugie happen. Yeah, they tried to make Chugie happen. And I could tell, I could feel it deep in my bones. Like this is not cool. This word's not cool. What it means doesn't make any sense. Like, none of this makes sense. This sounds like hello fellow kids kind of stuff, right?

I had a feeling about it. And now I can say this in hindsight. I'm sure I was on the Chuggy train back in the day. But Francis then links to a TikTok from user etymology nerd, which is that kind of might be a fun talk to follow, who posits that the word was used in 2021 very briefly and just a handful of TikToks, but the New York Times put out an article titled, What is Chugie? You know it when you see it.

This spurred millennials to take the word and run with it, which made, it's total millennial being out of touch fear, the droves. Yes, totally, yes. You know? You can't make fun of me if I make fun of myself first. Exactly. But I get it. I mean, we have to.

Aren't we supposed to? Yes. And so, of course, Jinzi immediately sees it as chuggy. Yes. Yes, because. To use the word chuggy. A slightly older person especially, because when you get to, like, I feel like when you get to 40s and 50s, you're like, a teenager's going to make fun of me, what do I care?

Yeah. But, like, people in their late 20s, their 30s, they don't want to be made fun of by young people. It's like their biggest fear. How many standups used to have jokes about how afraid they were to be on a train with teenagers because they were afraid the teenagers would, like, make fun of their shoes. I'm terrified of teenagers. All teenagers I'm terrified of. I'm scared of what they're going to say.

I'm scared of what they're going to do. I'm scared of just like, because they could cut me down just with one look. Yeah. And I'll just want to just crumple. Yeah. On the inside. He goes on to say this just reinforces the concept that language changes only happen via the youngest generation, which I thought is really interesting, which is already

slight. I mean, it's like obvious, but only, purely and only. It cannot happen with the next step up or the next step up. We're done. We cannot create new words. We can't make any more. We can't do any more. have no power anymore. That's great.

Yeah. It's already sliding away from Jin Z towards Jin Alpha. Sorry, Jin Z. You are now the chuggy ones. Whoa. Was mainstream media trying to manufacture Gen Z lingo or are they just trying to make millennials look even less cool to Jin Z? Thanks. Love the Pod, Francis. And what a perfect word to sound lame to a younger... It sounds lame to me.

Oh, yeah. It sounds lame to me. You know? I remember I was like, chugy. Like, agree. But I will say Chugi never pretended to be cool. I think Chugie was always a lame thing. Sure, but even what it is, but there's a cooler way to say how lame doubt like elder millennials are, right?

To Jin Z. There's a cooler word for that. It exists. And one thing I can trust Gen Z with is coming up with really good ones of those. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know about our generation. I don't know about Gen X.

but Jin Z is very good at coming up with this kind of lingo and they would do, if they wanted to come up with a word for this, it would be way cooler sounding and way more like appropriate sounding than Chugi. Chugi sounds like a word you would just make up trying to come up with a dumb fake word. There was like, there was this moment of mass panic of millennials, especially like writers, cultural influencers or whatever who like became suddenly, It's the thing of like you're on the train and teenagers come in and you're like, these teenagers are going to make fun of me?

It was like that happened, but in media. So there was articles upon articles about they don't like our skinny jeans anymore. The young people don't like side parts anymore. And it was like all written by millennials because those are the ones old enough to have the jobs. But they were like, it was like this, yes, totally, like a self-protective mechanism. Like these are the things that aren't cool anymore. Millennial fear. And I think there's so much more of a fear with millennials than there were with previous generations.

because we weren't under the microscope the same way. We grew up with the internet. So now it's so much more observable than it was before. Now you can see in real time you becoming irrelevant in a way that previous generations weren't able to identify unless they like went to a bar full of 20 year olds. That's interesting. And I will add to that that also in previous generations, I think even arguably with Gen X, even though a lot of like norms were breaking by then, like with previous generations,

it was possible to transition to certain signifiers of adulthood. Like you could buy a house, right? You could like start families in a way that it's been. So millennials have been shut out from a lot of those signifiers of adulthood because no one can afford a house. Nobody has a job with benefits. We're all still teenagers. We never grew up.

Totally. Millennials don't feel like adults. Probably everybody feels shocked to realize they're an adult. I think about this all the time. Like, were my grandparents shocked to realize they were adults at the age of like 23? when they had kids in a house. Like, but like, you know, I think they were a born adults. That was the difference.

Right. But like, I think that for millennials, everyone's like, there was, and remember how many articles there were about these fucking stupid millennials can't grow up? Well, they can't grow up because they can't afford to, right? They can't afford to move out of their parents' houses. They can't get good jobs or whatever. Yes.

And while all of that is happening, which isn't millennials's fault, millennials are also just going through the thing of being like, I'm not the youngest anymore. Now I am old and some other young adults think I'm lame? Like that's weird, you know? So I feel like there's a couple of different phenomenon happening at the same time. And it just, it makes like all your life choices change as well as you get older to under this microscope.

And I think it's like the pressure is so much. It's even greater than it was on previous generations to be a certain cutty, like cookie cutter thing. And we can't. Oh, we can't do it. We just, I can't do it. I can't do it. I'm even scared of getting a dog.

I can't make any decisions. I live in fear. Yeah, I think it's definitely that. I'm fine. Everything's fine. I'm not having it. I'm not having a MTV. I'm fine.

Also, I think we're also one of the first generations to actually give a shit about like being relevant or like keeping our hipness and coolness. I feel like previous generations were like so quickly became adults with like kids and houses. You know what I mean? And so quickly we're like, yeah, I'm irrelevant. You know what I mean? I had my three years of relevant.

for Gen X here. I want to hear from if you're Gen X and you disagree with this analysis let us know because I feel like maybe it's because they were the teenagers when I was young but I was like, Gen X is so cool. And they there was such a, you know, they shaped so much of, you know,

I feel like there's an entire, anytime basically any time my husband says anything, I'm just like, wow, you are so Jen Xx you know, but I do feel like I also think that there was I mean back then it was called selling out but I wonder what Gen X feels about how that generation changed from being the rebels, the ones who

would reject the status quo to now, I think Gen X as a generation is not especially radical anymore. I think a lot of those people did kind of settle in. I mean, I always have a chibi. I'm a little closer to it, right? I'm an elder one. You're on the cuss. Yes, I go to the mountain once a week and we have our meeting around the sacred stone. Yes, you talk about how much you love Janine Garoflo and John Cusack, but you also are familiar with Olivia Rodriguez. Yeah, totally. We talk about the truth about cats and dogs.

And we talk about guts. You know what I mean? And we just, it goes back and forth. And, but being close, I have such a chip my shoulder because, like, growing up in that environment, it was all about how little you could care about anything.

It was all about being apathetic and being, like, kind of black and white or, like, gray or whatever, rather. You know what I mean? And being like, I live in the dog. Like, I want to wish I could live in Seattle where it rains all the time. Right, right.

Because I don't like color and I don't like fun. You know what I mean? It was all about, like, how little fun you could be having at any given time. Our Christ blew his brains out with a shotgun, right? It was not a good time. It was an upset time. Right. Like, our chosen one, you know, was, it was upsetting.

So it's like, it's like weird to go back to in my head. I feel like I see a lot of gray skies and stuff. And those people were raised by, like, television and lack of adult supervision. Yeah, me too. You move on to the next to where millennials, it's, like, kind of half raised by television, but also, like, came of age in, like, AOL chat rooms and, like, explored that aspect of things. Oh, yeah, that our parents knew nothing about. Yeah, which is so fun.

And then even 10 years younger than us, you get people who were like, I grew up on the internet. Like, I grew up with an Instagram account or with Facebook or whatever, you know. I think that's the fear. I think we were addicted to being on the cusp of the new. Right. And I think that we actually have, like, it is fucked with us in terms of trying to stay relevant and knowing we're getting older. Like, we loved the fact that we all collectively were getting in on something that our

parents literally like could not comprehend it was so fucking new, you know, in a way that just video games, the internet, it just, it was so confusing to them. They didn't even try to get into it. at least if you're, you know, my parents, you know, and I think we got addicted to that feeling of being like, I'm on the cusp, you know, but we're not on the cusp anymore. We're elders.

We're old now. And the real deal. It's okay, being older is wiser and isn't that wonderful? And you'll hear more about that. And what I truly think about these z-ers and especially these alphas over on, more like a bunch of beta, am I right? They're more like a bunch of beta's, am I right? And you'll hear about that on the real deal with whole,

Neely. If you want to We believe. We believe. We believe. Oh no. We have to keep moving. Oh no.

It's time for the list, guys. Oh, no. How did that happen? Who's on the list? Checking. Got to have that list. Long forgotten facts about hit movies and TV shows. There are a few on here that I did not know anything about.

One of my favorite movies. Two Wong Fu. Thanks for everything. Julie Newmar. Robin Williams and Steven Spielberg Godfathered the movie. A movie about three drafts. drag queen stranded in a small town wasn't really sought after in the 1990s but it got the financial

backing from Spielberg's production company after he and robin williams endorsed the script and that is such a fun like that makes me man every story you hear about robin williams you're just like god it just being able to like help out and support other people in the so many insane ways that he did that just it just makes me love him forever and ever even more yeah that's that's awesome moving on The already very uncomfortable plot of the movie While You Were Sleeping. Yes, we are talking about while you were sleeping. You've talked about this before, right?

I think you've talked about how weird this movie. I've talked about how weird it is, but I didn't realize that the original concept was gender flipped. The original idea was for the man to be pretended to be engaged with a woman that was in a coma. And while they said, while the premise is creepy regardless of gender, it somehow feels even creepier that way.

Good that they decided to not go with the unconscious woman plot. You know, I feel like that. Yeah, I mean, no matter what it is, even though love while you were sleeping, but it is, um, it's a bit of an upsetting. This is the thing you cannot revisit things from the 90s without getting, um,

you don't have to get like deeply upset, but it is like, oh, well, that's, what? Uh-huh. All right. Mom. All premises. Again, the premise of full house is What If Men Raised Children?

We got to make a whole show. The show's going to go for years. Can you imagine the amount of content? Men? Taking care of children? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Also the premise of three men and a baby. There was so many movies about

what if men had to take care of children. Yeah, totally. And wouldn't that be hilarious? It would take three of them because the Lord knows one of them couldn't do it. Except for, you know, Blossom had only one dad and no mom, and he didn't need other men to help him, so there you go. I have a funny old book because my mom's in a bunch of old books

that we used to have when we were little for Winnie. And there's one called, like, the dad book. I got to look it up. It's got to be from the 70s, just the art style and everything, and it's so funny. Like, it's so, because there's like one page, like sometimes dads do what moms do. Clean the house.

Oh, my God. And blah, blah, blah. And like, yeah, it's just so... Only in an emergency and only if mom is already one foot into a grave. Well, and it's like, and they work in big office buildings and they wear suits and I'm just like, I do none of these things. None of these things are things that I do. This is completely badass backwards.

It's very funny. Very, very funny. Well, is it funny what screenwriter Paul Schrader went through? I don't think so. Taxi driver, the movie was written in two weeks. because screenwriter Paul Schrader was going through marriage problems, lost his job, was broke, and suffered a bleeding ulcer. His depression from all of this at the same time drove him to write about Travis Bickle,

or, quote, I was going to start to become him. Wow. And that is, I think, it makes taxi driver, which is already arguably a very upsetting movie, it makes it even more upsetting of thinking about, like, I've got to write this bile out of my body so that I can, can continue to be a normal human being. This sounds crazy to say, but I'm jealous. I'm like dying to have that moment in my life

where I'm compelled to write a screenplay. Yeah, I was gonna say, this sounds like a young writer's dream. Like, I'm so upset and I made a masterpiece. I have such an issue with that. I like wanna write a screenplay so bad, but when I start digging into the well, and there's so many things I could be doing

to make this happen for me, like the artist's way and all that kind of stuff to try to like get it out. but I just get so jealous when I read these stories about like he yeah he got he was just like a cat jumped on him and scraped his eye out and then a the taxman told him he owed and like you know and then he you know wheeled over to the typewriter and the masterpiece came out I've just never had that feeling really like well I don't want to wish that unhappiness upon stew but I mean I guess I wish it upon you just for the content. I love to be a tortured soul, Jackie. I'm Gen X, elder millennial, all right? I like gray skies. I like Nirvana. I like Soundgarden.

That lead singer also had a bit of a dish. You know? I'm going hungry. Somebody feed them, won't you? No, because I want to be hungry. All right. I want to be hurt and upset. That's Gen X for you, baby.

But is that James Cameron for you? This I did not know, James Cameron, made the charcoal drawing of Kate Winslet in Titanic. I don't know why this upsets me so much, but it really upsets me. Is it because he was like thinking about her breast? Well, he's looking at her breast, yeah. He's looking at her breast and drawing her breasts.

That drawing is so intimate. Like, oh, it gives me the willies. I don't like it. Yeah, we don't, we're not into it. But I mean, I will say maybe he's just thinking about generic breasts and not specifically her breast and isn't that nice? I feel like, yeah, I think he is a robot man, to be quite honest with you.

So I wouldn't even say it's a problem. I think if anything, if he could fuck something, it'd be a submarine. Yeah, he just thinks about submarines all day. Yeah, like he thinks about, I'm surprised the fish rumor isn't about him, to be quite honest. He loves the sea.

I know, he's a sea man. Yeah. Yeah. Remember when the submarine blew up and he was just like, I know everything about submarines. I loved his. That was amazing.

And I'm so glad you brought up. I know everything about the tit. I'm so happy you brought up that horrific happening because I love to think. about it every now and again. And his whole thing. Yeah, James Cameron's like, I'll weigh in on this. He's like, we're a small community.

There's not a lot of people who want to get into a tiny submarine and explore the depths of the ocean. We're like a small community here. And we all were like, this is not good. This is not. Yeah, the submarine who explores the Titanic community didn't like that submarine exploring the Titanic, which tells you everything you need to know. Very important.

Very important. Well, the code. Remember all the code in the main. tricks is actually made up of sushi recipes. It is indeed. The production designers scanned the Japanese characters from his wife's sushi cookbook and incorporated them into the iconic stream of code. Oh, that's fun.

Speaking of Keanu Reeves, I just finished the first two John Wicks for the first time. Oh, nice. What did you think? I mean, they're great. I feel like I really caught up on something that was a cultural moment that everybody felt so happy about. And I get it, man. I'll watch that guy.

Don't screw with his dogs. do anything. But I bet Gideon, too, is just so like, ooh! I mean, he was so, oh my God, disgusted. He was very happy. Oh, yeah.

I got Gen X. The gun. And he holds the guns and he shoots them. And also all people love Keanu Reeves, but Jen X especially loves Keanu Reeves. Big love. Massive love. He's a perfect man.

We did a, do we do a two-parter on him for Wizard? He really is legit, just very, so interesting. Such a fascinating guy. And trash. Humble. Yeah, he lived a life of grief and then made a movie series that is about grief. Horrific tragedy. It's also John Wick.

It's just like, what if we just had a, you know, a mass shooting every 10 seconds? But also it's like a parable of grief. It's incredible. Yeah, when he was a interesting kid, when he was a kid, he would just ride on the subway trains and just like observe people. He was that like a loner. He was a loner, dottie. What a guy. A rebel.

Just a rebel. Love him. Soltry. I mean, I didn't want to spoil anything. for you, but I do want to tell everyone, speaking of movies, I did get to go see the new Dune last night. Yeah. Are there worms?

I don't want to ruin anything for anybody. Excited for the worms. But I just want to say, if you have a chance to see it in IMAX, highly recommend it. It is unbelievable. And man, just eat an edible and just go to town, baby. You are in the spice. I am on Iraqis. I am here for it.

All right. I'm just like a chani-ass bitch, I guess. I guess I'm a rude duneer. I'm going on Thursday and we are in working out a rude duna extra episode to talk about. You got a screech about it. The second filmic experience. Jackie, who did you want to kiss the most? This one wasn't really, I guess, sexy for me.

My problem is that I need Oscar Isaac. I want more Oscar Isaac. Ah, yeah. And that is who I dream of. And on our way to see Dune 2, I did ask Jeff. I was like, give me a rundown of what's going on in this movie because I want to make sure I understand what's going on. And my first question was, is, will there be more Oscar Isaac? He said no.

That's sad. And that made me very sad about it because, man, that beard and man, that fit. And also everything I'm like hearing about the Atradis family too makes me love him even more. And I am so here for him. So really that's where my heart lies. Okay, that's fair. I also find Timothy and Zendaya too young to thirst for. Timothy, like, if 15-year-old me would lose my mind for Timothy.

36-year-old me, I just, I'm like, I see him as a child. So I'm like, I think he's doing a really good job. But I'm just like, oh, yeah, look at the thin boy staring into the spice. Like, look at him just like he's plagued by all of the duties. He has to be. You just said duties. And then he shits. And I'm like, that's not a sandbox.

That's a desert, you idiot. Last but not least, Christian Bale's American Psycho was based on Tom Cruise. Bale called up director Mary Harron saying that he saw Tom Cruise on David Letterman and thought that energy would be perfect for Patrick Bateman, citing Cruz's, quote, very intense friendliness with nothing behind the eyes. Wow, that's shady. Shady. I love that.

Like a bit of a dig. And I mean, I do want to add on, and maybe he has sex with fish. Patrick Bateman might. Oh, my God. Maybe he has sex with fish. That sounds like one of those blind items. I think I'm going.

Blind. The illiterate one. That means first letter, same letter, both names. Yeah. But they can read. The illiterate one wanted a private late night tour of the theme park in Anaheim. Gee, I wonder which one it is.

And was told they don't even do that for the big stars. That is how it was phrased to. Sydney Sweeney? No. I mean, she's such a huge star right now, though, but that was such a good one. No, she, I think, is maybe a snake oil salesman to a certain degree. She is on, as well known for being on a show that I find the name of to be incredibly boring. It is a one word name.

I don't get why people watch shows with names like these or why it's so popular. But it's like, was one of the most, like, watched shows on Netflix recently. It's an old show. She's not on it anymore. She was on it. She fucks in it. Suits. Morgan and Megan Merkel.

Yes. Whoa. What is that? Could you imagine being the kind of person that goes, I can't wait to go home tonight and make a really nice dinner and sit down and watch suits. I have close friends who are doing that very thing right now. They're watching suits. I don't get it.

I relate. I've never watched suits. And anytime suits is my only choice, like, on a plane, I'm like, I'd actually rather watch nothing than watch suits. But I do get great comfort from the 45-minute, you know, what do you call it? The network hour-long drama. Legal. It's got to be just regular.

trash, right? This procedural. So it's just like you're, it's just an A, B, Z. Exactly, right? Like, you can set your clock to it. That's just why I love Law & Order, right? I feel like for some people it's law and order. For some people it's bones. And then there's suits people. It always has to be a, yeah, bones, suits, house. It's got to be a one word, boring word. Yeah, bones, suits, house. And yeah, for me it was Law & Order, but I get it. I get it suits people. I'm not going to judge you. I, I, I got it back during the monoculture. I was watching the practice and whatever. I mean, I was in that loop, right? 10 p.m. was the hour where you watched the procedural drama, right? It was like that 9 p.m. 10 p.m.

Recently, Jeff and I have been talking about rewatching ER. And Jeff is like, is it worth it to go back to ER? Or did we just love to watch it because it was like we love to watch our Thursday night television? Let's find out together, Jackie. Because I also want to watch, I really want to watch ER. I've been thinking about it for years. Why? I have so many options now.

I can watch a live action anime. I can watch anime. I can watch Love is Blind. I can watch people be like thrown into a tank full of sharks or something. I love rewatching things, hence watching Full House with my children. Going back to things that were important to you. When I hear about you rewatching full house, I'm like how does the monotony, like the just absolute like known structure of every single episode that got to me back in the day.

So it's like, I can't. See, I find it comforting. Yes. I find it deeply, I find sitcoms comforting, even,

and also procedures, like old television. When that learning a lesson. That's why I held out the cable for so long. I didn't want streaming. I wanted a food network show. I know exactly what's going to happen in act one of chopped, Act two of Chop.

And then you don't have to choose it either. You just put on the food network and know that it's going to stay on. Yes, there's no decision paralysis. We've been talking about decision paralysis on our Sims stream. Yes. I do. That's, a pain in the book. I kind of wish iPods would come back. I wish I miss having all of my chosen

music in a box that I feel like that that was the peak. I'm such an elder millennial. That was the peakiest now because I have infinite options. I have no, I feel like it's impossible for me to explore or choose, whereas I used to just have a list of all the shit I like on an iPod and I would just scroll through. And even back then I was debilitated by that after a point. but it was still nice to just see it all. That's why I went to records. I want to just have a narrowed down set of options. Like, go on Spotify,

I'd have listening to the same like five albums. You know? I feel like I have infinite choice and I... And aren't they delicious? They are delicious. But wait, so Megan Markle wanted a private tour of Disney. I guess. And they were like, we don't even do that for the big stars.

Hell yeah. Take that, Megan. Because I think you suck. I do think she kind of sucks. Yeah. You know, I think that some of the things she has done. are cool, like not being intimidated by the royal family is cool. But I'm also not like, yes, bitch, you're my hero.

Not, okay, not being intimidated by the royal family is cool. Having seemingly no idea what the fuck you were signing up for when you decided to get in a relationship with this guy, super idiotic and like, not cool. I also felt similarly like, well, what did you think was going to happen? And I'm not talking about the racism. You're a mixed race. I mean, no, I would even say you would know about the racism.

You wouldn't know about the racism? They are a predictably racist family. Which then, yeah, fight, fight, fight. Sure. They, like, hell yes. But in terms of all of the... But to be, like, shocked by it is like... They wanted us to schedule every minute to do things.

Yeah, man, that's what they do. Yeah. They control you. They own you. Yeah. What is... Have you ever heard of your husband's mother? But that wasn't what killed it for me.

It was the whole Spotify kerfuffle. Speaking of Spotify again, it was the whole dumb thing where they all they had to do was like, phone in an interview. once a month or something and they like could not do it. You know what annoys me about her is that even if I became a royal, I know I would still like do my best effort doing everything that I was doing. I think that's what annoys me about her. Like that, that kerfuffle is because like it's laziness.

It's getting to this point and it's like you've got all of these opportunities and you're just watching her just like shit all over them. Yeah. Because I think that she believes she is above a lot of things. Because at the end of day. And that is what is annoying. Like she was up. On suits. Of course she's above everything.

She should get a private late night tour. But that's the thing, you were just on suits. That's why it's so great that she was on suits. It's so perfect. If she was like Jennifer Aniston or something, even... Yeah, if she was like some Hollywood darlingers maybe, I guess, then it would be a different. But all right, next up, we've got...

So far, the only project that anyone has taken seriously involving the A-list athlete is a reboot of a franchise that once starred the actor who was in the very... Fast franchise. A lot to unpack here. Travis Kelsey. Of course, Travis Kelsey. Who is the starring actor

of the very fast franchise? Vin? Yes. Fast? Okay. Vin Diesel was in another franchise that is way lesser known. The one where he has to keep doing cocaine.

Oh no, that's a different guy. No, that's Jason State. I love those movies. If Travis Kelsey is in a Transformer movie, I'd fucking lose it. That would be amazing. No, this is, I don't. actually also kind of cool. It's a sci-fi franchise that, like, it actually was pretty good for

what it was. Actually, a video game that came out from this franchise that was very good. It's, I don't even know if we can get it. It's, it's one word, okay, one word, second syllable. Halo. Penis. Second syllable penis. Oh, big penis. No. Cock. No. What's the other word? Dick. Dick. Okay. First, syllable. to be, to get blank of something. Ridd. Riddick. Riddick.

Riddick. There you go, Riddick. Wow. Travis Kelsey. Apparently, I love, just love the idea that Travis Kelsey, and that makes sense, that he's entertaining movie, uh, action movie roles. Well, because you said that he's on his way out of his ballist life, right? Like that's the end of ballast time.

I could be wrong, but I was given the impression from listening to other podcasts that he's got like two years left, essentially. I mean, his brother just retired. So. And now he's open for kissing other people, do you think? Maybe. His brother? Do you think he's got time in his schedule that he could kiss other people?

Possibly. You still attracted to him even after he got so sloshy? Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's, I mean, it's a problem for me. But you're not supposed to swing children around by the arms like that, which he keeps doing on TikTok.

Yeah, that's weird. Oh, he's swinging around. around by the arms. Why? Oh, we'll dislocate. For fun. Yeah, he's doing it for fun. Like, look, what a fun daddy I am. And it is fun daddy, but you're not supposed to I saw him. Really? I swing running around like that. You're not supposed to do that? I think, I mean, this was like, he had one kid by one arm. I think I also swing my kids around. So like, whatever, do what you're going to do. But I saw like a TikTok pediatrician who I really like being like, this is so cute. But also, don't swing your kid around by one arm like this because there's a comment.

an injury that you get. One arm. Well, and one arm. I would never do one arm. That's, yeah, that's a little wild. I did think about that, though, while I was swinging, was like, oh, yeah, could she, like dislocate her bullshit?

Anywho, just day-to-day parents stuff. All right, let's end it on a positive note. A kindness blind. Okay. There's a lot going on in the life of this A-Lis singer, but one of her friends told her about a party this teen was having for her 16th birthday. Both of the parents of the 16-year-old

are deployed overseas and have been there since right after her 15th birthday. She is staying with her aunt and uncle One of the kids of the aunt And uncle is friends with our A-list singer The friend asked the singer to just make a quick 10-second video Saying happy birthday Instead the singer showed up at the house

And played three songs And she's got a lot going on right now Is it Olivia? Olivia Rodrigo Oh my God She's so good until she turns bad to us And then we'll talk shit about her for an entire episode but this episode, we were so happy with her.

Chewky. That is really nice. Oh my God. There you go. That's so sweet. And that's the, well, who knows, it might not even be true. But either way, that is the end of the blinds I can see again. Congratulations.

And you two look great on a Tuesday. Thank you. So much. We do try. We do show up looking foin on Tuesday morning. Do we look like Melissa's Joan Hart and Sir Sharon? Let us know. Maybe don't let us know.

But also let us know. Or if you've got ones that we actually, if you think we actually do look like, and then we can try it out on each other. And I think that that would be fun. Like, guess. Guess who it is. And you can send that in to page seven podcast at gmail.com if you'd like. Because, well, hey, hello.

My name is Jackie Zabrowski. It sounds like it's the beginning of the episode. But it's the end. Thank you for listening to page seven. And you can follow me on Instagram over at Jack That Worm. And come hang out with MJ and I on Wednesday. morning's because we are now playing the Sims over on Twitch.tv. forward slash oh, no, it's Jackie.

MJ and I play Sims in the morning and, man, it is chill. And we keep it real chill. And when we are done, we raid Holden and Lexi's stream. So come hang out with us on Wednesdays. I'm like loving that you guys started doing this now because it's such a nice like Wednesday, middle of the week, big morning block, morning afternoon block for everybody. So it's very cool. I don't think I will be doing a couple of this week because Lexi has an appointment, but still, it's awesome.

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All right. The song? We're going to sing the song. Shout. Shout. Let it all out. These are the emails that you wrote in about. Come on.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for sending in your shoutouts. And you can send in your own shoutouts. Wow. Double the shout out song today.

You can send your own shoutouts into page seven podcast at gmail.com. Or you could just do things like sending an amazing pictures of your dog and a baseball hat that says pervert on it like Ariel did, which I just want to say, Ariel. Oh, brighten my day. Really appreciated it. But I've got amazing shoutouts in from some amazing human beings today.

And I just want to say thank you guys so much for thinking about us. Thank you so much for sharing with us. And I love our beautiful community so much. I love how we build each other up and I love how we support each other. And I just want to say thank you so much for coming back every week and being a part of this family. Now our first shout out comes in from Jay. Jay says, caught you playing the Sims last week and we talked about therapy in the chat. I just want to give my therapist a shout out.

She's a good therapist and all. But after each session, she saves us time to sit and discuss books and smut and just gush over. over SJM. She showed me lots of cool reading gadgets, apps, discount book sites, etc. But today, she told me that there are literally playlists for you to listen to while you listen to SJM. I haven't searched any other titles or authors, but I'm sure there are some out there. I found them on Spotify, and to hear them in order, you need to be a premium member. But I mean, I turned it on just for a sample, and I'm already going to reread the whole series. Okay, Jay, you have sold me. All right. Yeah, I'll reread them. Or maybe, oh, God, if there's Throne of Glass ones,

I can listen to them while I'm listening to Throne of Glass. While I'm reading Throne of Glass, which would, oh, just, you know, bump it up. I'm at the end of the first book. I've got things to say, but I will keep that under my hat because this is neither the time nor the place. Thank you so much, Jay, for writing that in. And, oh, I love some therapist, love. Oh, I love my therapist as well. And you know what? They need extra love too. Shout out to all the therapist out there. You're doing a lot work and I appreciate you. Anyway, moving on to our amazing shout out from Chris and this is so cute. Chris says, oh, well, there was no screaming from Chris, but this is really cute. Chris says, I met my wife when I was 13 and she was 12. We were next door

neighbors. Sidebar, Chris, if you haven't listened to the song, The Luckiest by Ben Folds, You might want to cry to it later, just saying, I'll jump back in. Chris says, we were next door neighbors. She was literally the extremely cute, extremely shy girl next door. I was immediately interested to say the least. Oh my God, you're just like Archie and Betty. She blew me off for a year. We were best friends from about 14 until we started dating when she was about 18 or so.

We've been together ever since, going on 16 or 7. years. Who can keep track? We now have two beautiful children, Penelope, five, named her after one of our favorite people from Lost, and Henry, who just turned two. Now for the part I'd really like to shout out. When I met my wife, she was extremely shy, and her self-esteem wasn't the best. Her mom suffers from bipolar, so her early life was quite rough. Over the past 20 years, I have watched her bloom into a confident, beautiful woman and a fantastic mother. Our son's speech has been a little delayed, so our doc recommended speech therapy.

Of course, the referral didn't take our insurance, and my wife proceeded to call every damn speech therapist in town and got him in within a week. The girl I met when we were kids would never have been able to make those calls or fight with insurance companies to watch you evolve into this incredible person has really been a gift. The kids are lucky to have you, and so am I. Love you, Bean.

Love Chris. I love your love and I want to kiss your love and I want to hug your love. And I'm so happy for you both and this was absolutely, absolutely adorable. I hope you and see you know, like hear this and feel it and appreciate each other. and kiss each other and kiss those babies for me while you're at it. I love you guys so much. And thank you for sending in just a tidbit of your love and sharing it with all of us. And you can share your own love at page 7 podcast at gmail.com.

Send your love in a shout out if you'd like. I mean, I know Valentine's Day is over, but you don't have to do it just because there was a certain day for it. Send some love out into the air. I love you guys so much. I hope you're having an amazing week, and I hope it's just getting better and better by the second. And we will be back next week.

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