Page 7 - Ep. 534: BEEF CHECK

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

This week Jackie is fresh from Naw'leans, Holden is checkin' out REAL NON ANIMATED CHUNKS and MJ is asking who's Team Drake?? In this BEEF filled P7 with Kendrick goin' after Drake, everyone booin' at Kim Kardashian during the live Netflix Roast of Tom Brady aaaand Tom getting upset about MASSAGE TALK, Page 7 FINALLY issues a formal statement on missing a MASSIVE plot point in Crossroads, some crazy shit possibly happened with Britney Spears at Chateau Marmont ending with her leg injured, Celeb's at the Met rocked their best Garden looks UNIT KIM'S SWEATER RUINED IT ALL, and in Celeb Conspiracy Corner: Shirley MacLaine is in a CULT!??!?!? A LIST OF BIZARE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BACKSTAGE ON THE SET OF MOVIES AND TV!!, BLINDZ, SHOUTZ AND EVEN MORE!!!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Got back from Norlands, baby. Jumbulli, crawfish pie, fillet gumbo. For tonight I'm going to see my cheramiyo. Picotaur, fill-fruit jar, and be a gayo. And then she died from diabetes. She died of God, well. Epic foot on the bio. Why?

Why? Steal magnolias. Don't bring her up into this, all right? Don't talk about me like a lot. I'm not here. I just drink your orange juice, Jackie, okay? Please. All right. I wish you were Olympia Dukakis. Holden, I would do anything and I would give anything to have you be Olympia ducaucas instead.

Well, I just, I got to get this out there and I'm sorry to do this to MJ, but it's time for my cipher. I have rap beef with you. Oh, no. With me? MJ them they, Timothy, Shalamee, you stink. Wow, oh my God. That's a strong start-old. This is the biggest beef to have ever beef.

I'm gonna be any gravy to sling back, MJ? I put a bunch of raw beef in my desk chair. I'm sitting on it right now, just stewing. You know what I mean? I'm cooking this beef with my lines and my ciphers. Jackie, you're wacky. And I think that you slacky. You suck.

You're bad at this. Okay. We're going to need between like two hours and several days to respond. There's been intervals of windows where the responses are coming, but then maybe we'll respond twice in like a very short amount of time. And then you'll be very scared. Well, this is the problem. I think that Jackie has a mole in my camp feeding Jackie all my next moves.

And I think it's Winnie. And Winnie, I'm coming for you. Oh, she comes over. And she goes, Auntie Jackie, you want the airplane? And I go, yeah, fill it up. I don't know how much tea you can get on that spoon, bitch. I am just a little bit. Please do not say that to me.

I'm like, you're my bitch, Winnie. You are my bitch right now. Welcome to page seven. There's a lot. So much. There's a lot going on this week. So much. I do think that we need to up top.

Yes, I mean, we're going to be talking about LPN goes no. Which I don't know if LPN should be allowed to go Nalins anymore because I'm still a shell of a human being. But there's also multiple beefs that are going on out there that have to be discussed today. But I'm over here. I'm all loosey-goosey, man. I'm all full up of fried fish and gumbo. How is a girl supposed to deal with a big plate full of beef? All right. What do we want to start with?

Do we want to get the Kedrick Drake beef out of the way? You got to get the beat. All right. You got to start with the beat. I mean, there is only a couple of things in people. We were just discussing our different algorithms before we started recording. We don't need to get into all the anime asses that are in Holden's algorithm. Oh, if cosplayers, please, they're emulating anime girls.

I'm looking at real chunks. All right? I'm not looking at some weird guy drawing circles. You know what I mean? Why not? It's safer. that way old and just look at the other, look at the animated chunks.

Did you say chunks? Yeah, big chunks. Like, okay, hell yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about beef, dude. I got some fucking beef when it comes to these cosplay. Anyways. But the one thing that is in all of our algorithms.

What are we talking about? We are talking about the now months long slash some of these explainers go all the way back to 2011. So between decades and months long beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. And of course, we can begin this conversation,

as we often do by saying we have some limits here. We hate Drake. We hate Drake. We hate Drake. But I was also going to say neither of us. No, I said we hate Drake. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would never be team, Drake.

How dare you know. Who's team Drake at this point? Let's get that out of the way right away. Unbelievable, yeah. Who is Team Drake? But also I think it's important to say that none of the three of us, correct me if I'm wrong.

I would say none of the three of us are like super active consumers of hip hop. What? I'm hip hop light, but this is the thing. This is what's great about this is like at the beginning I had a little beef check. Jackie, how much do you know? Do you know, you read the article that you sent? So I guess that gave a full breakdown. Beef check, how much beef you got?

How much beef? How thick's my beef? You want to know? I got it made for sandwiches. And that's on the thicker side. I will say that I have been, just because. I dislike Drake so much. I have been aware of this going on just because I go,

ha, ha, every time I see something that goes out against him, because since the degrassy days, it's always been like, oh, look at Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy's trying to be a star, isn't he? But I will say I sat with our beautiful friend, Sina Gazzavi, from over on fraudsters, over on LPN, and he did explain quite a bit to, which I really enjoyed it

and then I sat and listened to all the wrist. The riff tracks is what I was about to call them. Jesus Christ, Jackie. It's just like fall back in. I listened to the disrespectful songs. Put me in a gator po boy. All right. I'm covered in creams.

You have the inverse reason for enjoying this beef, which is hating Drake, which I also agree with, by the way. But I've been enjoying it because I really like Kendrick. Yeah. And I both hate Drake and like Kendrick. This is the thing. I didn't even know.

I didn't even know, you know, I was, I was a little surprised, I guess, but that's just how far reaching it's been that I'm like, MJ, are you up on the beef? Like, yes, I'm up on the beef. Because it's been this, I mean, this is what people are calling it. And I agree. This is one of the most monumental historic moments in all of like hip hop history. You know what I mean? That it's a big beef.

It took over. Because at first, it's one thing when it's all over my Twitter feed, like, that's the eye lingers, right but front page of reddit has been inundated with this shit and i think also it's one of those we've had these social media moments it's happening in real time my flight landed and he had and and kindrick had dropped another follow-up fucking disc track after meet the grams i guess what i would just say about this is like you can go and do the full breakdown we don't need to like give you the rundown i feel like that's everywhere right you know jack even sent a article from Today.com

with a full breakdown of the beef, which even SNL parody had these like morning talk show hosts, like Good Morning. Which was the Duolipa sketch was pretty funny and it was like essentially what we are doing right now. It's what we're doing right now.

There is a beef. Have you heard? Oh my God. Rap August. Kendrick Lammer and Drackei are must be going against each other. This is what I'll say about this. Usually when it comes to RAF beeps, I find them to be incredibly ridiculous. Personally, sorry, I get there's a whole history there.

But the part where it's like, I don't like you, sir, I'm going to sit in room and write a poem about how I dislike you, sir. I always thought it was a little silly, especially back in the day. I had to turn off Kendrick Lamar's Meet the Grams because it was making me so upset. I've never seen anything like this before. It is so intense. It's very intense. And like the, even the picture, the picture he uses for that track is like a briefcase. They got recovered from a Drake's dad that has all this like stuff in it that like reveals lies that Drake said or this or that.

And then it's the soap opera of it, I think, is what also I think is interesting for the means of our podcast, right? That there purportedly was a mole in Drake's camp that was giving Kendrick all this. Did you send out Winnie? Again, I will say she's very good at it. I dressed Winnie up in a mole costume. It had her scurry into Drake's mansion. How cute would she be? And Drake was like, oh, a mole.

Okay. Oh, a mole. Come on in. And I don't know what moles do, but I just taught her to say that a little bit. You know, and they were like, hey, the mole's fucking smoking blood. Yeah, it was crazy. You think Drake knows what a mole sounds like. So, hey, let the mole do a verse.

Let the mole click, a greek, a gawk. Put him on the dragon. Oh, that's a good verse. So, yeah, that there was like a mole in Drake's camp feeding all of Kendrick's stuff, which is why Kendrick was able to, like, drop right off the heels of Drake and, like, overshadow his, his disc track, right? With Family Matter, essentially, if this is true, Kendrick Lamar fully perfectly orchestrated this, where he, like, he put out a track, and then Drake responded, and then I think what,

he put out another track and then Drake did his like mic drop track and Kendrick was like you thought I did my mic drop track but actually Euphoria wasn't my mic drop track my mic drop track is meet the grams where he literally goes through every member of Drake's family

and tells, addresses each of them directly. Every verse starts with deer I like dude and this fucking nasty piano underneath it. I mean again I've never been like I've been impressed by discracks, like, historically, especially M&M's disc track towards Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey is one of, like, the best examples of like, damn, that's a fucking disc track. You know what I mean? So I feel like before that, too, in like the 90s, it was, it was always just like really basic shit. You know, it's like your mama's so fat kind of disses. You know what you mean? Then when these are, this is like, this is personal and wow. And if it's true and allegedly revealing specific information, namely like Drake having another illegitimate child, all this kind of stuff. So anyways, like that track is like...

Also, I saw some meme that was like Kendrick like saying all these things, saying, like, like listing out all the things that were said about Drake. And Drake's response was like, I only have one kid. That I tried to hide at first also. That I tried to hide. And then like, historically, if you don't know, Drake already had a kiddie tried to hide and then revealed, then finally like admitted. that the child was his in like an album drop that he did.

It's so weird. It's so weird. We're literally talking about, if you, if you like are like, well, okay, how's the beef going? Who's winning? We're literally talking about a Pulitzer Prize winner versus the former star of DeGrassey. Right. That's about how it's been going in terms of who's winning and who's losing.

I also made a short summary of the biggest salient points that Drake and Kendrick have each made against each other, which I think really shows. that Drake has brought, whatever he has brought to a knife fight is not adequate. Drake's basically only got your short and you were molested as a kid, which is not what he said in the song.

He's referencing a Kendrick song, and Kendrick said that's not what happened in the song. So it's like a misreading of a Kendrick song. And the biggest one would be some domestic violence accusations, right? That's why the biggest one. And again, like, I don't want to get too deep in this shit because it's just like not the kind of,

that's not the kind of shit we like really like. to get into the nitty gritty of on this show. But yeah, that over the top, rough allegations being thrown around these tracks. So that's like already on like we're on another level than what we normally do. But then the metagrams coming out was just this like, holy, fall.

Like, I mean, everyone like felt it. It was like this, like, that's why they're now referring to Kendrick Lamar as the boogeyman. Like, it is, it is, I've never heard anything that, a song that made me feel so fucking uncomfortable like that that I was like, I don't think I can listen to this. This is so fucking brutal. And then on the heels of that, surprise, I'm on a flight, I land.

He hours later drops another this track. That's not like us. The cool thing about not like us, not like us is also, not only am I going to completely fucking level you with this Meet the Grams track. Now I'm going to beat you at your own game. I'm going to put a bop out dissing you. Because that's what you do. You put out bops.

I'm going to put a fucking bop out that's going to get everybody fucking banging the head nod in the head, you know, like just getting down. And that's exactly what it was. It was just this kind of like final, like Meet the Grams was the big leveler. And then that was just kind of like almost like a PS, like, I'll be you at your own game. And like a couple, you know, obviously too was the whole like him liking the Young's accusations. The points that Kendrick makes in not like us are, you don't write your own songs, you're a pedophile, you're a colonizer. Yeah.

Your team hates you. You're a colonizer is one of the fucking. best distract lines, I think I've ever heard. It's so good. And right. And so he's like, you're a, you keep your little sisters away from him. And obviously on this show, we've been, there's been rumors about Drake being a pedophile for years. There's been on the blinds.

This is not like something new, but for Kendrick to be like, oh, okay, you want to try to like do something really big at me. I'll come back at you. And then Drake's response. Especially because not all people read the blind items. Not everybody knows exactly what's going on with Millie Bobby Brown. And so like this is a huge. And that's really huge thing. Well, because now the whole world's watching, right?

The whole world is now a part of this thing where they weren't before. Like people weren't in the nitty gritty of Drake and his. And to the point about Millie Bobby Brown, Kendrick didn't name Millie Bobby Brown. He just said, you're a pedophile. And Drake's response is a five, more than five minute long song in which his counterargument to being called a pedophile is, well, if I'm a pedophile, how have I never been caught? And B, and B, I didn't do anything bad to Millie Bobby Brown. And everyone's like, nobody brought up Millie Bobby Brown except you, bruh. My favorite tweet on that was like, Drake essentially just responded with, well, if I'm a liar, why aren't my pants on fire?

Yes. Or also being like, well, I'm a, you know, I'm a giant celebrity. How have I never been in trouble for this? It's like, and then just a list of all of the celebrities that have, you know. You're a artist in the realm of hip hop, and your argument is, well, if I had done something wrong, then law enforcement would have, like, appropriately caught me and done the right thing. Like, the, I mean, you know what I mean? Like, the entire genre is about people, is, like, talking about people who have been wronged by law

enforcement or the idea that's just like, well, I have never been caught by the police. So, therefore, it must be all good. is such a strange thing to do in a rap battle. Hello, Ed Larson and Amber Nelson from the Brighter Side here to check in with you. See how you're doing. Is your day more disappointing than a gas station sandwich? Are you trying to put one foot in front of the other in a glue factory? Did you try to throw your air fryer in the bathtub, but nothing happened because you were too lazy to plug it in first?

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That's right. So start your weekend off right every Friday with the brighter side on the last podcast network. You beautiful babies. And then the final one. one is, oh yeah, that mole in your camp, we fed him those lies. We knew you would take the bait, but it's like, that is kind of could be a oh shit thing, like a holy shit thing, if there was a single receipt shown, which there hasn't been. So everyone's just like, I don't buy that at all. Why would you set yourself up to be having allegations thrown at you in a really good

Kendrick track that everyone's going to remember just to go back at the end? Because the hard part six is the final track this is released. It is a Drake discrack towards Kendrick, May 5th, 2024, and it is essentially the equivalent of a deflated balloon. And all of this brings me back to the question of why? Why would Drake do this? Why would he, I mean, other than just like, this is some Greek tragedy shit. He thinks he's the best.

Yeah, ego fully eclipsing. Because I keep ruminating. I'm like, everyone knows this was a terrible idea. note that like why would you ever take on and he already got his ass handed to him by push a tea which is one of the other one of the other greatest lyricists currently in hip hop right that he took on and everyone why are you taking on push a tea that's insane this guy's a fucking maniac he's so good like why would you ever do that you write you write summer jams right you write fucking like chill club like bops like what are you thinking and then to do double down again with

with kindrick i i think everyone's scratching their head everyone is unanimously agreeing that Kendrick won at this point. And the kind of beauty of it too is people are saying like, Kendrick played this so perfectly. Like he had a direct response to everything all along the way because of probably said mole in the Drake camp and yada, yada, yada. And then

everyone's thought he was immediately going to respond to the heart part six with something and he didn't. And it was so smart because the heart part six is the latest one from Drake is such a deflated balloon that actually letting everyone letting that track just exists.

With everyone and not responding is like fucking absolutely perfect because everyone's like this is not good. The last word is Drake screaming, I'm not a pedophile because I've never been caught by the cops. And Kendrick's like, we'll just leave it there. Yeah. At least as a recording, maybe that has changed. Meanwhile, the last line of like Kendrick's last song, fuck a rap battle. This is a long life battle with yourself. Yes.

Jesus Christ. It's like, fuck you. I couldn't imagine how you end it. I started thinking, I was like, what if Kendrick wrote, like, do this thought experiment everybody at home. What if Kendrick wrote a fucking ruthless disc track about you, like, what it would be? I mean, it's, I would never wish that on my greatest enemy. It's a nightmare.

Absolutely. And man, Kendrick showed, I mean, I've been a huge fan of Kendrick Lamar for the longest time. I have, I am floored at how evil he became. He is capable. But I'm proud of it. I love watching it. A good evil.

Yeah. I mean, it's a, Drake is a worthy target. Yeah. I feel like that's what it comes down to, right? It's like, this is, like, I mean, the, the criticisms of Drake

range from his music sucks, which is there's this old clip of Most Def going around where Most Def calls, with like a kind of paid look on his face. He's like, I guess, I guess people, find Drake's music enjoyable.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he compares to target music. Yeah, to like say one nice thing, yeah. Right. It's like meant to be pleasant. Like you listen, it comes on in Target and you enjoy it. But like that's like kind of the best

you could say about Drake. And then the worst you can say is that he's a pedophile, right? And so it's like he's just made his own bed here. Allegedly. Again, with this line, if I was fucking young girls, I promise I'd have been arrested. I'm way too famous for this shit you just suggested. Are you kidding?

Also, and also. The difference is that and you've got you're in a battle with yourself. I mean, the difference of the levels of like artistry going into, I mean, again, me the grams, I haven't even list to all of, I made me so upset. I have never had that experience with a fucking rap track. And I, you know, we got through the horrible misogyny and everything of the gangster rap in the 90s. And I mean, it is just next level. I'm blown away.

I could be as I, again, I usually really look. It does feel. And I'm sure someone can sit down and explain to me how it's like, like actually the coolest thing ever, but generally rap, disbattles, do feel a little silly to me because it's like, again,

you're just writing poems about each other. But this is, now I'm like, I feel, this is next level shit. This is completely insane. And I don't know if we'll ever see anything like this again. It's a historic moment.

Everyone has been talking about it. You know, I mean, just the, including us, which is saying something, because I don't think we'd ever would normally talk about this.

Though I will say, I want to throw it out there. Just because, you know, A, I just want to give credit. We were talking about other music than Taylor Swift's new album, but I will say I do consider the tortured lovers department to be a full diss album towards Maddie and Joe. Mic drop, bitches, peace. That's your mic drop.

I don't know. That's a real Drake mic drop over here, Holden. In the sense that it is an obvious observation that everybody, I mean, that is what it is, right? So, yes, we could drop that mic. I would love, well, I was thinking about that, I was like, where does this happen in any other music where people write like several songs like shitting on? I know, I'm sure it has happened in country. Taylor, Taylor's dissing Kim all the time. Yeah, yeah. She's just as Kim on like every album.

Yeah, I think Tay is like one of the only people who like does like disc tracks. It's not rap, you know? Especially people were not hiding how they felt specifically about Kim Kardashian. Honestly, all this talk about these disc tracks. does make me think of writing jokes for a roast. And yes, there was the roast of Tom Brady over the weekend. And it was three hours long. They did this, like, live thing over on Netflix.

And so you watch, like, every single joke, because usually, you know, you're watching a roast. A lot of it gets edited out. Man, you can watch every single second of it over on Netflix. And while you're watching it, you will also watch Kim Kardashian get brought up and get open. just brutally booed while she was on stage. Like, booed for a while.

And, you know, she took it in stride. I will say that. I don't know how I would take a whole audience full of people booing at me when I walked up on stage. Yeah, I feel like maybe for her, it helps to go like, oh. She's used to it? Well, no, I think it's like, oh,

I purposely make myself hated and that's where my billions of dollars comes from. I think that might help her a little bit because like, I mean, even we'll get to the Metcala. I feel like even her newest thing on the Metcala was another, like, I'm gonna, I wanna make people fucking see that and get, like, upset and mad that I'm doing that. No, she based it on her night out in the garden when she put her boyfriend's cardigan over her. When she became a telephone pole, which she fucking magically turned into a fucking, you know, hourglass.

Anyways, we'll get to that. But, yeah, she kind of took it straight. I feel like, you know, but then she just like completely like, I turned to Lexington. It was like it sounds like she's giving an oral report in high school. Like she was just so just lifelessly reading from a teleprompter. But again, I get to the point where I'm like, this bitch played 40 chess, dude. She fucking knows this shit is like, she knows even that, even coldly reading it off a teleprompter is going to like make people mad. And then she makes more money off of it.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean somehow? Oh, yeah. It makes me nuts. because she got, I'm sure, got paid lots of money to be there. Just the fact that, like, she was there. And, you know, because that immediately opens her up to get roasted, which, you know, you love to see.

But it is very interesting. The idea and, like, the science behind writing roast jokes, you know, of course, Ed Larson, writer of roast jokes for many, many years, there's such an art to it. You know, you can even go back to the, you know, roundtable days and listen to us, doing roasts for each other live and it is very difficult to write a joke that is genuinely funny also goes after the person but also doesn't like eviscerate them to a point where they are unhappy you really have to ride the line in writing these jokes but you have to remember there are people that are they have to write jokes for everybody for hours so they have to write jokes for

you know, two months to be able, especially Mike Lawrence, a friend of ours, one of the writers on the roast as well. It like, it takes so much time to write those jokes. It's not like Kim Kardashian wrote those jokes for herself. Somebody else wrote them for her. Right. But it's fun to watch it happen live. And I think that's why I was so interested in watching this whole roast because watching how, like, oh, that would have gotten taken out. Oh, this portion would have gotten taken out is, I think, like, very telling for the world of live comedy. I definitely felt like, because when Netflix started doing live stuff,

I was kind of scratching my head. I was like, I don't really get this. I think it did Chris Rock's special a disservice, but I think it is perfect for a roast because there is so much tension. And of course, the biggest moment happened with Jeff Ross when Tom Brady had to step up and be like, don't talk about that shit anymore.

and you hear it into the microphone because he has no like chill way to do it. Like a microphone's going to pick it up. Everything's mic to whatever when he brought up the- Because he was specifically talking about the owner of the company who had been, like had issues in a salon in the past that had to do with cameras and things. Yeah, there was this huge raid at a massage parlor where the whatever big Patriots guy was caught and it was this massive scandal years ago. I remember talking about this on my political show back then.

And so, right, then when Jeff joked about it and Tom Brady just comes up. And yeah, when you're filming something live, there's no like subtle way of being like, knock it the fuck off, which is why it's this, the entire premise of having Kim Kardashian there for a roast is weird. Because I think, I mean, I've never been a big roast guy. but I think what's fun about them when comedians do them is that there's this like baseline of trust

so that no matter how, as long as you, you know, I think there are decorum that you should follow, right? But there's a baseline of trust so that even if you really,

really go after someone, if it's a bunch of comics there, there's a baseline of like, well, we're all in this together. And I think that, and I think that's part of why the Drake and Kendrick thing

is fascinating because it's like, oh, there's no baseline of respect here, right? Like we're, we have, there's not, we're not working from mutual respect here. And, and I feel like at a roast like this where it's like Tom Brady, Tom Brady doesn't have any allegiance to any of these people. Like, he's not going to be like, he's not going to be like, oh, it's just a joke, right? Because he's, Tom Brady's not in that world. And then Kim Kardashian being there, Kim Kardashian, no one has any allegiance to her. She doesn't have any, so it's just

strange to be like, the premise of this is that we are all, the premise of a roast is that we're all here, we're all going to have fun together. We're going to kind of see how far we can push it. still having a baseline of love, but there's no love for Kim Kardashian. And so it's like just the whole kind of agreement. It's like a gentleman's agreement arose. But then when you have people who are not in the world come in, Tom Brady doesn't know how it works. He doesn't know that he's not allowed to just be like, don't do that. It was kind of this roast situation a little bit. It was like the reality person that everyone loves to hate. Back in the day, obviously, I think situation is completely changed his entire persona around.

But yeah, it really feels like that. But also isn't Tom Brady? He's an alien, right? Is that my celebrity conspiracy? Like, watching him, people just kept being like, because you're so hot, like, you're so, in, like, making jokes about how attractive he is. And I was like, this guy? I know I don't know anything about football.

I know he's the goat. I know he's very good with throwing balls, catching balls. I don't even know what he does with the balls, but I know that he does something and I know he's the goat. But I just look at him and he looks like, ha, ha, I am a mad. I imagine that's what he says when he walks up to someone. I am a man. Hello.

Man. I am man here. Like, I have no desire to have a conversation with Tom Brady, which is why I really commend the people that were able to write as many jokes about him as there were. Because I was like, it's skillful to be able to do that. On the outside, yeah, he just seems like a boring dude. Well, and also he's like not a beloved figure in Hollywood, because he is associated himself with like, you know, causes and people who are on the more conservative side, which is generally not, like, loved.

And, you know, and so, like, in the Hollywood world. And so he's also a very interesting person to roast to be like, it's not like he's kind of like a beloved. It's not even like, I don't even know enough about football to give a, but an example of like a football player that everybody loves. like, you know, fucking Taylor Swift's boyfriend would make more sense. Like, be like, yeah, whatever, that guy's fun. Whereas, like, Tom Brady has always been very controversial. So I feel like having a roast about somebody

who is very controversial is all the more challenging for the joke writers and the joke tellers to be like, we're going to try to keep this really funny and fun. And also, like, this person is a controversial person. Same with Kim Kardashian. It's just like, there's just, you know, I think that when I think about roasts, I think about like, you know, wasn't there like a really famous roast of Bob Sag?

Like I always think about them as like people who are like beloved getting roasted, right? And again, too, much like the, I have to ask the same questions I did with about Drake. I did wonder at points like, why would you sign up for this? Yeah, especially Tom Brady. Because again, I do, I will say, I've seen a lot of these roast. And there have been other moments that have been like so crazy, you know, like the Courtney Love, Kurt joke that I believe Jeff did Jeff Ross did but um in the past but still I felt like they kind of went harder in this one too than like I've seen them in the past a little bit like they

were pretty it was pretty brutal I mean I don't know what it was like I almost felt like you know usually they asked before like what's off limits I'm surprised he didn't say some of these things more things were off limits like the jiu jitsu instructor that his wife left him for and Right, right. Like just, I mean, even the massage parlor thing, maybe he just didn't think in a million years anyone would make a joke about the massage parlor thing. But, you know, the guys in the audience and it's fair game. So it just was like, what?

There was a lot of like, holy shit. And you also love how Jeff took that when he walked up and said, don't say that shit again. Jeff literally went, okay, and kept going. Like, he didn't even actually rolled with it even more than that. He was like, what? He's having a good time over there. He's having some good fit. Like, he even was like, he didn't even go like, oh, shit and like move on.

He actually like kept addressing the guy in the audience too and put everyone at ease because yeah, that was. It shows how masterful he is like what Jeff Ross does because like that he was able to keep it moving and also make what could have been a like show stopping very uncomfortable moment made it very seamless to a point that we went back to what because we weren't watching it live. So it's like we went back. We're like, wait, what just happened? what was he talking about that like, so we went back to watch it. And I was like, wow, he really effortlessly moved that on. And like, man, host game recognizes host game, dude. That's a difficult thing to do.

Right. Well, and again, comics are used to, comics know the deal, right? If they go into a roast, they know that they're going to get roasted. But I feel like somebody like Tom Brady is so used to being worshipped. Same with Kim Kardashian. There are celebrities. They're used to being worshiped. They're not used to being challenged, even in a joke form.

So if a joke challenges them and they're uncomfortable with it, they are, and it's live, they are truly not used to being in a situation where they're like, I have to just make this look fine, even if it's not fine. Yeah. You know, and that's, I feel like that's why it's so fascinating to watch people who are not, who don't speak this language, go and try to speak this language. Because, yeah, you just have like, I, this is one of my favorite things, when you can't stop the mics and you can't stop the cameras, but like an entitled celebrity is like,

stop the mic, stop the cameras. And it's like, no, no, that's not happening. It's not going to happen. We got to keep going. We must continue. Which was surprisingly, like I was surprised about how quickly Tom Brady came up, said that, and then sat back down and kept laughing. And I was like, okay, okay. Yeah.

All right, guys. I see what's happening here. I will say, I've also heard from multiple sources that the, like, I guess the docu series on Tom Brady, which is maybe on like Facebook or something, is legitimately really good and really interesting and just a well-made documentary. And there's some extremely candid, like, Giselle, marriage. falling apart moments in that as well and like some really intense stuff in that you know what I mean we're literally he they're in an interview I think and something along the lines of of the interview we're asking about like his football career and she's like when's it going to end you said you were done

you know what I mean like you said you'd stop like yeah that kind of shit well that's which of course they made that joke many times like that's that's the word on the street is that joselle was like you're going to retire and Tom Brady's like okay I'll retire and then he did it retire. And then Karate Man was like, hey. And then she started banging her juditsu teacher. I got a block I got a block of what you can break a piece off of in my pants. You fucking idiot. She does not like the jokes according to me. She does not like she. Oh, bad. I know. I was like, oh God, is she there? And I was like, dude, she's going to hate this shit. She does not like the jokes. Do we have, is there like a direct

quote or just sources say she's very unhappy? No, she came out talking about how she's going. She's trying to keep her children away from it and. Deeply disappointed. What did she think? I mean, it does suck that she's not there. I feel like it's better taste. She didn't agree to a roast. Yeah, it's better taste.

It's kind of tricky. If you're like, well, my husband, I mean, of course, for the roast, it's not going to be like your wife's off limits, but I do feel like for her, I could understand being like, I'm not the one at the, what? Especially the amount of jokes about it. There were so many. It wasn't just a couple. Right.

It's just, there were a lot of them. There was a sticking point. because of course it was because he said it was. Pretty joke worthy. He could have said it was off limit and he didn't. And so, yeah, that's going to be a huge sticking point for Rose jokes. He could have. He could have.

But he didn't. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Think about that. That's really, to be like, oh, the roast shouldn't have done this. But he had the ability to set the grounds for what was okay and what was not okay to joke about. And he didn't say, don't joke about my wife. I wonder if he, like, didn't understand how fucking.

I am curious because, like, I wonder if he does, like, did he, was he not aware of what that they would dig into? Because, like, Bridget Moynihan, which I didn't even realize that they were together and he, apparently, I mean, again, we don't, we'll never know exactly what happened. But he left her while she was mid, in mid pregnancy with their child. And that got brought up. And that was made fun of many times. So Bridget Moynihan, like, came out and was also like, awesome. Great. Love this, you know, essentially. So I didn't even realize that that had happened because, you know what, surprisingly, I don't follow the life of Tom Brady too closely. I don't think that these people have, I don't know, but my guess is that these people are so used to being loved and worshipped and celebrated.

Drake, you're talking about Drake. Yes. Same deal. Kim is used to hate, at least we know that. But like for Tom Brady, I don't think that, I don't know. I'm speculating, of course, but I could imagine that if you're a certain type of celebrity, you go into a roast to be like, well, they'll probably, like, make fun of a couple of, like, football mistakes I've made. You know, I don't think that they're very self-aware.

No problem is what I'm trying to say. And the other football players were like, remember when you dropped that pass? It was like that's fine. No one cares. And then I want anyway. You know, I think that their egos are so high that I imagine that it's hard for them

to fully psychologically prepare for, like, the dressing down. I wonder how he feels, because the Jeff Ross moment happens, like, right up top. Really? You know, yeah. I mean, Nikki Glazer throws down, does the rings, the rings bit. Nicky Glaser, man, watch the Glacier's set.

It's great. As a big fan, I've been, you know, I listen to her podcast very regularly. She is also, like, she kind of, I really like her deal. She's extremely honest in her, like, kind of in her, she gives good podcast. And she also is a huge Swifty. So I've just always, you know, I think kind of start a little. listening when I was in the dark taking care of an infant and it was like kind of got me through that time. And she hosted F. Boy Island. She was like the best reality show host for has ever been.

By the way, shoutouts to lovers and liars. They're doing essentially F. Girl Island, but they renamed it to Lovers and Liars. And that is out on the CW network. Speaking of lovers and liars, we need to talk about Britney Spears. Now before we talk about what happened at Chateau Marmont this week. We need to bring up the fact that maybe we talked through a plot point during the watchalong of Crossroads last week. We see you. We may have talked up Crossroads.

We may have talked through a large point of the movie. And it to the point that I'm like, man, do I have to watch this movie again? Okay, but to be fair. Wasn't it devastating enough? Do we even need the tacked on? We talked through it because we were so upset about what was happening, to be fair. Yes. So I just want to say that.

Sometimes we talk through stuff. If you're a Buffy Patreon watcher with us, you know that sometimes we just talk through stuff because we're talking about our favorite, whatever. And people are sometimes like stop talking, listening to the show. But in this moment of Crossroads, the reason why we missed what is essentially the entire point of the movie is because we were so. upset about what was happening in this very scene that we didn't, it was just more fucked up than we realized.

So apparently it's addressed in like 12 seconds of screen time or something like that. So people did give us a little bit of leeway. But who wants to explain this, all of this, so anyone who didn't watch the Crossroads watch log or has seen Crossroads? I don't think we should explain what happens in Crossroads because there's not a content note big enough to do that at the 40 minute mark of the show. Yeah. Very surprising. New new. Crossroads.

Very surprising. Of all movies, you know. I thought it was just about a summer fun. I thought it was a summer fun. We spent most of the movie being like, why does everyone hate this movie so much? It's fine until we got to the end. But I think that we could just say if you,

if you want to, if you missed it, you want to go back and watch with us, we apologize for what we missed. And if you did watch with us, thank you for watching and we apologize for what we missed. And the fact that I want to say thank you for explaining that to us because now I'm even more upset about the ending of the movie than I have. We missed a thing that made the upsetting thing even more upsetting. So it is really cool. Good on you

Crossroads. Yes, it's even worse. Maybe that's why Britney's acts this way. Maybe Crossroads really was the turning point. That's put a curse on her, some kind of evil, you know, I don't know what, but I think, you know, clearly she's still in some dire straits. And yeah, don't bring up a curse. I got hexed when we were in New Orleans. So don't bring even, just say the word. No, I didn't do it on purpose. I didn't want to be hexed. I was getting a fortune, and I am hexed,

and now I need to figure out how to make my life right again, but we don't need to talk about that right now. Jackie put quarters into a creepy skeleton machine that tells antifortunes, okay? I'm exed. It wasn't anti-fortune, because the person after me got this like, you are wonderful, and your life is blessed. Like, no, I know.

It was just me that got the bad one. This is why I'll never get a tarot card reading. I don't want to know. Oh, my God, but I've been getting into tarot. Oh, my God, MJ. That's a conversation for a different day. I'll start pulling cards for you. I'm teaching myself, MJ.

Oh, my God, I'm learning so much. But Britney Spears, oh, maybe she needs a reading or something. It is, there's been quite a many generations of people that have had some bad days at the Chateau Marmont. And I feel like that maybe there's bad juju over there. I mean, it's definitely haunted. It's a thousand percent haunted. But most of Los Angeles is. But Britney Spears went and long story short, there was an altercation that occurred at Chateau

Marmont. She hurt her foot. But it was a huge spectacle that she claims that she was just like doing a leap and she fell and she like fractured her foot. Do a leap? was there. Am I right, people? Come on, guys. Come on, guys.

No, Lepa. But turns out the word on the street is that she was actually in an altercation at the Chateau Marmont. Again, we're never going to know quite what is going on there. But she openly said that the reason that everybody found out, quote, unquote, about, or like, all the lies that are going on about what happened is because her mother is, like, putting out all of this information against her. She's writing very, like, furious captions that are, you know, a little jumbled and maybe not quite making all a lot of sense.

But then, like, her mother read it and then flew out and apparently everything's fine. And it's, I watched, you know, I don't know if they're still up, but when she was posting about her swollen ankle, the videos were just real. It was her crying. It was very sad. And it, it made me. not want to follow her anymore because I was like, I, she needs help. Right. I think she needs help.

It's one of those where you see the pictures of this and you're like, uh-oh, we're doing it again. Yeah. You know, like Britney Spears is having a really hard time and because she's Britney Spears, there's going to be photographs of all of it. And right, she kind of was like, I got hurt, but then paramedics came and I didn't want them to come. And it. But she left Chateau like whole, like, like.

covered in a blanket holding a pillow with tiny shorts on barefoot, you know, like, it's just, it all looks real, it looks real like, reminiscent. Right, right. And I think that, right, I was struggling with this, reading this because I'm like, okay, well, we know that we don't want to, like, talk about this in the ways that Britney Spears has always been talked about, which is just like, that bitch is crazy. No. You know, and, and, and so, and I think, and of course, right, Jackie sent an article that's,

like, this is unnamed close sources to Brittany say this is why she should be in the conservatist. She has to have a conservat. And that's a fucked up response too. She just had to pay millions of dollars to pay off her father. It's like, here's a thing. She needs help. She definitely needs something.

But she didn't need someone that was completely ruining and taking all of her money and taking all control away. You know, it's like there's got to be something in between. Isn't there? Totally. That is exactly my thought. I feel like we've already had this conversation into a microphone, but I guess it bears repeating because this is the fascinating thing about this is such a unique situation. I don't think it's a conservative ship, but what does she need?

It's like the most special, unique kind of social worker or something. Like, I don't even know. Yeah, I think actually that's a really good point. And it's like, we actually don't really have a model. I think about this with Amanda Binds too. We don't have a model for what to do when someone really needs help. that isn't seize control of them. We need like the cat daddy,

but for celebrities who are broke. Yeah, right. Like, right. Bring over the guitar case filled with cat toys, you know? It'll keep her. It'll be a Jackson Galaxy. Something like that.

Something that's like someone who specializes because it's so unique and no one understands it but them. We can never understand what they go through. I could never understand that level of fame and what that does to the psyche and especially starting from an incredibly young age. You know, it's a very challenging thing to try to figure out or decipher because exactly, it's like, I don't agree she needs a conservatorship, but she does need something. And that thing, I don't know if it exists. Right. I think that's, I think that's exactly right. I think it's like we, it's, and it's very uncomfortable to be like, I think that it's the same reason why there's like, you see these videos that Amanda Bynes posts and everyone's like, this should be stopped. And it's like, well, how you can't just like stop someone like from having a phone or from like,

saying things that are embarrassing or like doing things that are embarrassing. But right, that what they need is help. And there's no real clear model for how to provide that help to somebody who, again, has had this experience that really no one else in the world can understand. It is very fascinating because I think that we are now in a time in 2024 where in general, obviously the paparazzi and the media hasn't deeply changed since 2008. But it's a different time.

I think there's a general desire to handle this with more grace and delicacy. We're not laughing at her, at least. It seems like all of the, like the articles about her are not like, ah, look at her fucking up again. It's actually like, that is what I, is very different from how it was covered. That it's now more like, it's more wanting this person to seek help,

right, it seems. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is, I think, and I think we've also asked similar things about Kanye, like,

where it's like when someone is, which is different because what he's doing is harmful to others. Yes. what Britney's doing is harmful to herself. Yeah, at least Britney's not going, I love Stalin a lot. I think he's. So that's different. But yeah, I think that, and honestly, we're talking about celebrities,

but probably you could talk to regular old people who have also dealt with mental health crises in their own families or themselves. And to be like, yeah, there's just not, like, there's not the infrastructure of help that needs to exist around this. And so when it happens to somebody like Britney Spears, yeah, it has these really uncomfortable, like,

callbacks to a bunch of darker time when this was happening to her. And we hope to do it differently now, but there's, I think, that we're figuring out what that actually means. Man, we are going long in the dawn. We haven't even talked about the Met Gala. I mean, is that a leftovers conversation?

It's a leftovers. You know what? They put on clothes. They put on clothes. I like the theme. I think the theme was actually really cool for like the Met Gala in better than past themes.

Zendaya, man. We're going to talk about the challengers during chocolate. Look, Zentea serves. Kim Kardashian found a new way to annoy me. Last year was the fucking Marilyn Monroe thing. This year it's the let's make my guts squeeze into my bones. You weren't upset about the sweater?

Everyone's upset about the sweater holding. What sweater? The sweater that she had over the dress. Oh, that's like, look, that peeling sweater. And her whole thing is that she's like, I wanted to base it off of this night when I went out into the garden and I took my boyfriend's sweater. and it was raining. And so everyone's like, but it's a bad sweater.

You know what other people are saying that it was like a last minute thing because they squeezed her shit in so tight it was affecting the left breast implant. Whoa. Fucking making it all fucked up. Which is horrific. I hate it.

I hate it. Flies. Flames on the side of my face. All right. But let's get into the celebrity conspiracy theory. We got a banger this week. Hit me with the share. Do you believe it?

Shirley McLean is in a cult. Speaking of Steel Magnolias. Put me in it. If she's at a cult, I want to be in that cult and I'm ready to be in the cult. Well, you got to hear more about this cult first, bro. Okay, all right. Wait, is it colloidal silver? No, no colloidal silver involved necessarily.

But yes, we were talking about Shirley the McLean, prolific actor from Tears of Endearment, St. Magnolia's Sweet Charity in the apartment, just to name a few classic films she has been a part of. And this one comes in from Stephen who writes, Hi, everybody. So technically I'm cheating because this isn't a conspiracy, but it just is one of those things that isn't common knowledge, but you can look it up and it's true, which I looked into, and yes, this is so true,

even though this sounds like it was written by someone. I just want to tell you all about it because the more you read about, the more insane it gets. So Shirley McLean follows a spiritual leader named Jay Z Knight. That's my name. Are you Jay Z Knight? Uh-oh. And tell me, and do you speak as Ramtha?

All right, we'll get it to hold on. Yeah. Remember your alter ego, Nightcats? Yeah. Are you the cat daddy? Oh my God, I'm all in a Jayzy Nightcat. You're what Brittany needs right now. All right, so she wrote a book called Out on a Lim.

She claims in that book that in a past life, 35,000 years ago, she and Jayze Knight were brother and sister living together in Atlantis. Jayzie Knight is a lady who claims to, quote, channel an ancient, quote, spirit called Ramtha. In my personal opinion, this is, I believe this is from Stephen. Yeah, this is from Stephen. In my personal opinion, the videos I've seen of J.Z. Knight channeling this romtha just comes across a white lady talking to really racist, foe Indian accent.

On top of that, on top of that, Jay Z. Knight has been criticized by the Southern Poverty Law Center because some of the stuff she said while, quote, channeling romtha has been criticized as being racist, anti-Semitic, and homophobic. So this Jay Z Knight cult thing will send you down a rabbit hole, have fun, Stephen, and it did. I thank you very much. Steven links to a wiki page that I combed through that confirms all this stuff about Jay-Z Knight and about Shirley MacLean's involvement as Romptha's sister. And their Atlantean past lives. I looked at Jay-Z Knight

and it just says about Judy Zebra. It just is very funny. And that is saying that's her name. It's Judy Z-Sever night. The Z stands for Zebra. That's your zebra. I found this passage to be particularly interesting to me. It's a little bit of a side

bit, but I just loved the world we live it. All right, here's the passage for the Wikimede. Knight has been involved in several court disputes, some personal and others business related. She brought a suit against a woman from Berlin named Julie Ravel for disturbing Knight's psychic

state and leaving her, quote, hanging in spiritual limbo, unquote, during the five years Ravel claimed she was also channeling Ramtha. The case is brought to the Supreme Court in Vienna in over five years at the end of which Austria's Supreme Court awarded copyright

tonight as the sole channeler of Ramtha and RELYOLING RANTHUS. And on top of that, Ravell was made to pay $800 in psychic damages tonight. Wow, this is great. This is, you can go to Ramtha.com if you want to learn more. Ramtha School and Academy of the Mind.

Oh my God, man. And it is rough. They've got some CD downloads available. They've got a lot of books CD downloads. Cerement to be pretty instrumental. Instrumental to the business is CDs. They've got a whole free stuff link,

including a rockumentary called Where Angels Fear to Tread. So there's a link to Robert Kennedy Jr.'s page. And by the way, this looks like it was made in 1997. This is amazing. I love Romptha School and Academy of the Mind. Well, okay, this is, this might be crazy, but we had a little bit, we here at page 7 we like to do watchalongs,

we obviously just did crossroads, we had a little bit of controversy about whether we should do Irish Wish, we landed on, or Jay Lo's other documentary, we landed on crossroads. You guys talk about Steelemagnolius a lot. I don't think I've ever seen Steelems.

Oh my God, so you just want to do a cry-along? That's not a watch-long, that's a cry-along, but okay. Bro, I will watch Steel Magnolias any fucking talk. I'm just putting it out there. So we did a pop history. on it, by the way, and literally, like, I couldn't get, we couldn't get through it. Like, I was just weeping openly into a microphone because the story is so sad.

No, we should watch it because then we can give you the backstory while we watch it. Oh, it's so sad. But also, you would have to suffer me trying desperately to not say the lines over the movie because I am, I don't usually do that, but when I'm by myself, I do say the movie aloud while I watch it. It's like a sing-along for Jackie. It would be great, like a mupper Christmas Carol, sing a lot, but for Steelback Millie. Honestly, have Henry and I both in there.

We can do the whole movie. Well, there you go. There you have it. I love it. I mean, you have to believe it's well documented. I don't want to believe in Romphe, but I do want to believe in Shirley McLean. So that's the problem. So I guess I'm here for Shirley.

That's the quandary. Back to you, Jackie. And Shirley, I must be joking. Come on, time for the list. Oh, who's on the list. Jackie, got to have that list. Bizarre things. that went down behind the scenes of your favorite movies and TV shows.

David Fincher took matters into his own hands on Alien 3. Producers thought the drooling Xenomorph was too much. So Fincher took a rogue crew, stole an alien costume, and took Sigordi Weaver to another location without a permit to shoot the scene against their wishes. Wow. And that is like the iconic scene of the like xenomorphs mouth dripping, right next to supporting the Andrew's face. And it is, I had no idea that it was a stolen shock.

Wow. It's giving Milf Manor season two, though, this shot. Oh my God. We'll talk about it. I'm sorry. It's a perfect show. We got a lot to talk about, we got a lot of talk about on Talka TV too. This is a lot of shit.

And by the way, I've seen people asking about talking TV. It's not behind a paywall. If you listen on Patreon, I'm, I'm not. not sure if it's there or if it's in the regular feed. Now it is starting to every week also going to be popped up on the Patreon. Perfect. So if you get your recordings, we, I saw you guys commenting and asking if it was going to be, thank you for your cries.

And it is now going to be popped up on there every week. So all of it will be in one spot for y'all from now on. Yeah. So Talking TV is back and it is not a Patreon exclusive. It is for everybody. So come on and have a listen because I've been watching all of the. the Planet of the Apes movies for the first time. But anyway, what about National Ampoons, Animal House?

The production brought the Delta Tau brothers up to the University of Oregon five days before shooting to Bond. They hit up a real frat party that involved hard drugs and a massive brawl, and they stole a piano. So much cocaine. So much cocaine was used. I wonder how old those actors were when they did. Animal House, probably like mid-20s.

Got to be. Not too old to go to a college party. No. But yeah, I mean, I couldn't hang at this point, but I hope they were, I mean, obviously they were able to steal a piano. But talk about real drug use, easy riders drug use, and knife fights, and maybe it's just because

we were just in Norlands, baby, and we were feeling it. But the drugs used on camera were real, and the cast and crew partook off camera as well. Director Dennis Hopper also threatened actor Rip Torn with a knife, but claims Torn pulled a knife first. Yeah, so we were just in New Orleans, and one of my favorite things to do there is go visit the cemetery

where they filmed Easy Rider. You can't go there anymore. Oh, you can't even go in? No, because we wanted to go see. You can go to the other portion of the cemetery, but you can't go to that portion, because everybody has to go out there and ruin it. It was getting to face too many times.

So now they don't allow anyone to go and see it anymore. Because the thing was, you can't, it's an amazing cemetery and has so much history, but you can't even go in, but you weren't allowed to film in there because of Easy Rider, because they snuck in and filmed that whole cemetery scene actually on acid. And, you know, classically, I forget who exactly does, but gets on the, like, Virgin Mary statue. And everyone's, like, cry. It's, like, insane.

and then of course Nick Cage's pyramid. His mausoleum. Grave. Yeah. Yeah. It's also in there. Among other things, famous voodoo priestess, there's like a lot of really cool,

interesting folks buried in there. Except for Nick Cage, not buried in there, but will be, I guess, such a haunted town, and I loved it so much. So, anyway, the Terminator filmed without a permit

and poisoned the crew. Apparently, they didn't pay for permits and snuck a lot of shots on LA streets. Worse, they didn't stop filming when pesticides were sprayed over the city, so the quote, fog washing over

the cast and crew was incredibly toxic. Good Lord. Very, again, the things that they used to do were like, got to get the shot. Gotta do it. Gotta get the shot. Yeah, you know what?

Put pesticides over in my age. And Orange, true. It's like, come on, guys. It's fine. They can handle it. Speaking of haunted places, I did not know that this occurred, that during the filming of the Conjuring, things mysteriously changed places in the Warren's storeroom.

Actress Joey King became covered with bruises, while Vera Farmiga woke up with three scratch marks on her thigh, and the same marks would also appear on her laptop and cell phone. Also, Vera would wake up between 3 and 4 a.m., the same time at which the witch dies in the film. Which creeps my creep, and maybe it's just because we saw a ghost while we were in Holland. Yeah, it was so cool.

We did the ghost tour. I did a ghost store, walking ghost store there, but we got away special treatment. We got to go into an actual haunted space. And I don't want to say play with ghost hunting equipment, but, you know, sort of that until shit got real. when the dousing rods were actually like communicating with us via Jared and Marcus. Marcus too.

I think he's now a believe. You might have gotten Marcus. Which is a beautiful thing. Yeah, it makes sense that the ghosts would go via Marcus. They'd be like, you're a trustworthy. You're a bone man. You're already. You're halfway.

You're a bone man. Halfway toss. Clickety clack, kickety clack. The skeleton man wants to dance. You love bones and dirt. We'll go to you. The bones and living inside of dirt holes. Now, we were talking about the Omen a couple of weeks ago, and this is something that I completely forgot about the Omen.

On two separate occasions, airplanes carrying actor Gregory Peck and the film's executive producers were hit by lightning. The FX artists that designed the iconic decapitation scene were in a car crash and witnessed an actual decapitation. not long after production. Oh, and the animal trainer was mauled by a tiger one day after filming. The baboon scene. Wow. Haunted set.

It's a haunted set. That is scary. Very scary. Very, very scary. We recently, I think we watched the open this past Halloween, and I didn't actually find it that scary. This is scarier than the ailment. The idea around it is actually much scary.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, last but not least, West Craven threatened to murder Drew Barrymore's dog. And that was on the set of scream. In order to rile her up into the blubbering ball of fear she becomes, the director recounted acts of animal cruelty to her between takes, culminating in the graphic threat against her own dog. Oh, come on.

And that is what made her so upset to film that iconic scene. And you know what? I guess they got what they were looking for. You know, it's a great scene. The Shining is great, too. But is it worth the cost of what they did to Shelley Duvall? Is it worth the cost of what they did to Drew Barrymore? I don't know.

And what about the birds? The birds is on here, too. We're not talking about that either. Is it worth what they were put through? And also, apparently, which I had no idea, what Sam Ramey put Bruce Campbell through for the evil dead, which I didn't know that he was, like, being tortured the entire time. So these are the things that you learn on these lists.

You're welcome. Read Bruce Campbell's first book. I think he's put out a couple at this point. I think it's called Confessions of a B actor to get all a great rundown of the fucking hell that was making evil dead. It's also my favorite part of that book was the beginning of it where he just talks about

growing up at his hometown and the kids in his neighborhood because it's just genuinely hilarious and delightful. But yeah, a really good solid description of how brutal that shoot was, for sure. All right, well, I wish I could read a book, but I can't. I'll have to listen to the audio version because I think I'm going blind.

Idums. Oh, we can't see them. There was talk late last year that the editor was doing her best to try and get the heir and his wife to her May gala. Apparently, she has extended a permanent invitation to the couple, which would seemingly permanently ban the illiterate one and her husband, until the former had officially said no each year. Oh, I love that.

So Anna Wintor is waiting for Prince Charles and King Middleton to come. And Megan Markle, you will never, you'll never step foot on that red carpet, Megan. You ain't gonna, and you ain't got to get it. Okay, wait, let me make sure I understand. Anna Wintour wants Will and Kate to come, doesn't want Harry and Megan to come. Yes, they get precedent even though, oh, you know she would, you know she wants it. You know, Megan's like to skin a live raccoon in order to get an invite.

How many jars of jam do I need to make to get invited? How many jaws of jam? Just her screaming to herself. I made 50. What do they want from me? Oh, my God, that's great. Here we go. This permanent A-list actress who doesn't act much any longer,

but could if she wanted to, has been talking a lot of dirt to an author about her most recent husband. I think ex-husband would have been a better way to say that because it's not very recent that they've been together. Angelina Jolie. Yeah, wow, Jackie, Angelina Jolian, of course. Brad, I mean, Brad, wait, wait for that.

I feel like Brad Pitt's got... Yeah, some dirt. I feel like... These demons. I saw... I mean, maybe you guys saw this too. There's a harrowing description from one of his children that was posted

about the kind of monstrous dad. he apparently was to them. Well, that's why his part, like, I want to, like, know more, because of course, again, we're never going to know the full story, but, like, now kind of watching him like, rip them apart, bitch. Yeah. Rip them apart. Because of what I'm hearing, but of course, we don't know what is true.

Right. It is very upsetting the things that are coming out about it. Yes. Yeah, that seems right. Like a half open, half closed secret for a while now that he, struggles with at least maybe alcoholism, maybe other substances and like violent behavior towards the kids, potentially violent behavior towards her. Apparently he has been sober. I believe that I think that he has been on the sober train for some years at this point,

but I think that like it doesn't take away. Of course. Obviously of the things that he did. And I'll tell you what, you can be a real fucking asshole to your kid if you're hungover. Yeah, or drunk. Oh my God. I have definitely had to completely change my tune when it comes to. to drinking because it just immediately I'm like hungover and chill a toddler, don't mix. So you gotta fucking reel it in on that shit.

Well, especially when you have as many I know like they had multiple names. I think it's like five kids. Yeah, I mean, I'd be a mess. I'd be a total mess. The dynamics of that family, it is pretty fascinating because right, Angelina is kind of like an activist and has like, seems like

has been like a pretty fierce advocate for her kids at various times for, different things when they were in the spotlight. And then, yeah, Brad's just been like a mess. So it's like, yeah, it's a fascinating family dynamic to look at. Well, this next one is the opposite of upsetting and goes right out to Jackie. It took an astonishing amount of money compared to her normal fee for this A-list actress who is an Oscar winner to do another vampire movie.

The producers think fans wanted enough to justify the price tag. Is she an Oscar winner? I don't think she is an Oscar winner. Yeah, Kristen Stewart. Yeah, I'm not an Oscar winner. Kristen Stewart, have you heard about Flesh of the Gods, Jackie? Tell me more, tell me more.

Mandy director, Panos Cosmosmosmosmos, is at the helm of Flesh of the Gods. A vampire thriller starring Kristen Stewart and Oscar Isaac. No. It is set in L.A. This is made for you. It gets better.

It gets better and better, Jackie. It's set in L.A. during the 80s, it is written by seven screenwriter Andrew Kevin Walker, and it's about a rich married couple who get, who like, decrees. It's the description is like they descend from their fancy townhouse into the nightlife of L.A. And they end up getting mixed up with this group of hedonistic partiers in the 80s nightlife scene who are vampires. It's going to be hot, fuck sex. It's going to be, it's going to be ultraviolence. It's going to be filthy 80s, fucking indulgence, vampire shit.

I am fucking so here for it, but I know that no one could be more here for it than you, Jack. I need it. Also, I do need you to know, not an Oscar winner. I know. Why did the blind say that? Yes. Oscar nominated.

But I am so here for it. Gimmy, gimme, gimme, gimme. I want it right now. I love that. Ooh, oh, they're going to suck and they're going to fuck. Ooh, baby, give me, give me, give me, give me. How hot is that? Kristen Stewart, Oscar, Isaac.

I'll die. I'll die. Vampire. Vampire cocaine orgy, dude. But that's how good it's going to be. You know it's going to be good because you know that Kristen Stewart was like, fuck no, I'm not doing a vampire thing. Get out of my house.

And they were like, but wait. And then they just like, they were like, first of all, Oscar Isaac, second of all. And then they just described it. And she was like, all right. All right. And then Andy director and then writer of the movie seven. I mean, what the fuck? I mean, come on.

This is going to be, it should be, even if it's bad, it'll be good. Totally. You know what I mean? Oh, well, maybe she's like, I'm going to rewrite history. I will update everyone instead of remembering me is from the other vampire movie, they will remember me from this vampire movie. You know, it's like a way, it's like a collective, what's a corrective experience. Yes.

Yes. Also the title. Is it happening? It is happening. It is happening. It is happening. Flesh of the gods. There's a variety article about it where I pulled all this from.

Yeah, it's... I just feel like they're gonna get me all juiced and then I'm never gonna get it. And it's like, let me, like, I need my fantasy to become a reality. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm so... Thank you for this.

I know, right? Ooh, yeah. Ooh, I love the premise. So much. I fucking love the premise. Oscar Isaac, I will watch him read the phone book. It'll be like eyes wide shut,

but with vampires in L.A. in the 80s, like, it'll be this fucking sexy thing with like... I mean, come on, dude. Those two are going to be fucking ripping on screen together. And it's a thriller, too. And just, oh, imagine just the, ooh, the hot heat. Imagine the, ooh, the soundtrack, too.

I need it all. And this is, I had to watch interview with the vampire the last day when we were in Nalens just because, like, I needed my vampire fix. Yeah. I needed my Nolens vampire fix. Oh, man. I love it. Well, there you go.

I can see again. We're at the end of this show, sons. Wow. Let's go, dude. So I await your ciphers next week. Really interested in the accusations you will level at me. It'll be a fun time. Hell yeah.

This has been great. And I, again, sorry again about missing out on the plot point of Crossroads. But you know, we're going to be forced to end up watching it again because that's how my brain works. So isn't that the saddest punishment of all? and thank you for listening to page seven this week. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can come hang out with me over on my Instagram at Jack the Worm. And if you can come hang out with me and MJ over on Twitch.tv.

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You know we always appreciate it. Now we've got a beautiful, it's a self-shout out. and it puts me in such a good headspace when I love seeing, even if you're not used to a self-shout, if it's not something you would usually do, I so appreciate when you do, because we need to have these moments to celebrate ourselves and our hard work sometimes,

just like Kristen, aka Cat turds on Instagram. What, cat turds, what have you got to say? Kristen says, I am typically not the kind of person that would seek a shout out for myself. But, Fudget, I'm so proud and I deserve the kudos. I passed my last final in my last year of nursing school today. I even wore your shirt to take my test for good luck. I'm 39 years old in a class of hot, young 20-somethings,

and sometimes I'm hard on myself for not living up to my potential when I was younger, like these guys are doing. But I did it. I made it while working full time at the point. post office, being a mom of a very active and sporty teenage daughter and a wife. Next up is my placement in the ER, shadowing and working alongside and seasoned nurse. I even got the placement I wanted. The ER, oh my God, yay!

I graduate in July six days after I turned 40. Life is wild. And if anything, this experience has taught me that you're never too old to start and succeed at something new. Thank you, Kristen. We needed to hear that this week and thank you for sharing that. You're right. It's so easy for us to be like, oh, it's too late. Oh, I can't do it. Oh, there's no time. But there is. And the time is to start. The time is now. And you must start today or at least soon. And I'm so proud of you, Kristen, for doing that. It's so hard to change your life and to make these choices. And you did it. Kristen says, I love you guys. I love you guys.

loved seeing you at your live show at Pittsburgh. I was pretty hammered on gin drinks at the meet and greet, but I choose to believe that I was still super interesting and charming, and that you all still speak highly of me pretty regularly. Don't worry, cat turds, baby, we definitely do. And congratulations, hell yes, and, well, not happy almost birthday, but I'm saying it. Happy almost birthday, babe. Congrats!

Oh, and we have another beautiful shoutout coming in, and this one comes in from Sina. Sina says, I just wanted to send in a shout out for my incredible husband on our eight-year wedding anniversary. I wish I was an early bird and had this at you to be out on our anniversary, but I'm a mom to two small children. So we all know that didn't happen. We actually even forgot it was our anniversary until midday because we were distracted with an ear infection on our daughter. I'm so sorry. There's no one I'd rather be in the trenches of parenting with than you, Chris. Thank you for being my best friend for the past 22 years, my partner for the past 17 years, and my husband for the past 8 years.

You're the best dad in the world, and our children are beyond lucky to have you. The way you play with them and treat them with respect and love literally makes my heart sing. Watching you be a dad has healed a lot of trauma I have from my gloriously messed up childhood, and I'm so lucky to be able to parent alongside you. My God, Cina, I'm going to cry. I can't wait to keep laughing with you for the rest of our lives. Love you, you weirdo. Cina goes on to say I'd also like to shout out Jackie Holden and MJ

for being my literal favorite podcasters. I saw you live on your tour and it was one of my favorite mom nights out ever. Jackie, thank you for your love and care you put into this show and the shoutouts, thank you. My husband actually did a shout out for me a month. or so ago, and the way you read his words and how much I know you really do care about your listeners made me cry. You're the best, and we love you. Thanks for being great, and thank you for being great. Thank you so much, again, for taking the time to write this in. I love your love,

and I love sharing the love that we have, and sharing the congratulations between each other, because we need to build each other up. All the boats rise with the tide, babes, and we are here to create a community of positivity and just sending out the good vibes and the big hugs. And I really love you guys. And I appreciate your positive words. And just overall the goodness you put out into the world every day. I know every day is a choice to do that.

And some days it's harder than others. We got this shit. And go kill the rest of this day. You got it. Have a great rest of your week. And we'll be back next week. Bye, everybody. This show is made possible by listeners like you.

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