Ep. 551: A Peter Gabriel Pleasure
00:09with the Sabrina Carpenter song, even though we all know Sabrina Carpenter has just been fullyshoved into my brain for the last three months. But actually, I found it an interesting fact aboutthe song, In Your Eyes, like the heat, your eyes, I am complete in your eyes, and see the doorway,your eyes, your eyes, your eyes, resolution, my eyes, and all the fruitless searches,Do you see me with the stereo?I see the line that in your eyes.Does it make you think of your husband, MJ?I just always, I always forget that doesn't he have me.
00:47Does my husband look like Peter Gabriel?No, he's got the Lloyd Dobler tattoo of him holding up the stereo.Also, no, it makes me think of a guy using a coffee, Inima on himself in a trailer bathroom.Yes, no.Not John Cusack.We're talking about John Cusack.We're talking about Lloyd Dobbler.Very different.
01:04Very different.Yes, Giniens does have a little.Gideon does have a Lloyd Dobler tattoo.I just have a Peter Gabriel problem because Peter Gabriel, it's a good problem.It's a Peter Gabriel pleasure, not a problem.But I just go to-Is it guilty or is it not guilt?It's a happy, proud pleasure.
01:22Oh, wow, happy proud pleasure.I have very few happy proud pleasures in my life.I don't think I have any happy proud pleasures in my life.What is your happy proud pleasure about sparking?It's going to go downhill from here.Nobody's going to care.But Peter Gabriel covers one of my favorite magnetic field songs called Book of Love.And so I can't hear a Peter Gabriel song without thinking of Peter Gabriel's cover
01:47of one of my favorite songs, The Book of Love.And Peter Gabriel's cover of it is so fucking good.And then I just start thinking about how much I love Peter Gabriel.Yeah.And so that actually, even though I did walk down the aisle to Book of Love, the Magnetic Fields version,interestingly enough, hearing Peter Gabriel doesn't make me think of my husband.but it just makes me think about Peter Gabriel more.So I'm sorry.
02:10That's my happy, proud pleasure.Well, I have a happy proud pleasure.On the way to see Cheryl Crow open for pink,I was able to slightly more convince Lexi,who's been very opposed to me getting some kind of aDark Souls Taylor Swift combo tattoo.Oh, I thought it was going to be a Cheryl.Giant on my thigh.
02:34Bro, like, lyric tattooed on you.Yeah, just the photo from the song,I put your picture away.It's just that, but it's a photo kid rock.She did play.So, Winnie is obsessed with the movie Cars.And so, of course, the car soundtrackhas to be playing at all times in our car
02:51where we're driving.And the first track is a Cheryl Crow song.It's called Real Gone.The lyrics mean nothing.It's like, there's just so empty.And it's like, I'm gonna get Real Gone.Real Gone.It's just like so ridiculous.
03:06And I was like,and I was like,hey,we're going to see Cheryl Crowe our night.She was like,the car song.And I was like,yeah,
03:11she probably isn't going to play that song.And of course,right when we get to the stadium,I got to take a video of herperforming real God on stage.Oh,of course she's going to play that song.It's a car song.
03:23I mean,damn,she's counting that fucking cars money.I'll tell you that much.She starts it off withI'm American-madeBud Light Chevrolete.Yeah,
03:32American-made Bud Light Chevrolete.overlay.My mama talkedlike, oh, I know the wrong.Yeah.I was born in the South.Sometimes I have a big mouth.Yeah.
03:44When I see something I don't like.I gotta say something.And then the guitar comes in,do do do do do do.Wow.Yeah, I want to die.You're just making it to die.So this is just groggy on the way to the park
03:57at like 9 a.m. on a Saturday.That song blasting.Winnie in the back having a spectacular time.me in the front being like, when do I sleep?Later today, maybe Lexi will let me sleep.You're never going to get any sleep.Oh, man.Don't get any sleep.
04:14It's mandatory family time after you get back for the playground.It's mandatory.I'm just like, oh, what is that?I see you.All I do is hang out with you guys.There's no child here, Holden.Open your eyes.You're with friends.
04:29There's no child here.Yet we're singing your child's favorite song.It's going to follow you.then you know what, Holden, you're going to hear it like five years from now and you'regoing to feel extremely emotional. So get ready for that. I will, I will get my Taylor Swift asMelania Blade of McKella on my upper thigh. Oh my God. That's the dad you're going to look veryShe wears a mask on her. So it's, what Lexi needs is for me to not have a full straight onvisage of Tay. I think that's fair. So if I can just get, you know,
05:00she's going to look like Selena Sardothian and you, that is from Throne of Glasshold. You don't. Youdon't know who Salinas Ardothian is, but I feel like that's what it's going to end up lookinglike, and everybody who's anybody's going to be like, nice throne of glass tattoo.I bet, I bet is what's going to happen.I was going to get gay, Fay, Bay written underneath it.So I was said to really kind of get the whole thing.Don't steal my tattoo ideas.And I feel like you're putting the really wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable with that.
05:28It's Fay Bay's.Thank you very much.And I have bring up and it has nothing to do with absolutely anything withwhat we're talking about because I was singing, Rosanna, Rosanna, you know, yacht rock like I doyesterday when I was in the studio. And someone told me that not only the song Rosanna, which wouldmake sense, but also the song In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel was written about Rosanna Arquette.Wow.Because we were trying to explain to a youth who Rosanna Arquette is, which is a lot more difficult
06:00when you're talking to a zoomer and you're like, I don't know, do you watch movies?I don't even know how to like connect with you to try and explain who Rosanna Arquette is.You know, I did bring up desperately seeking Susan and just, you know, right over their head.But it's fine.I should go back and watch desperately seeking Susan.That's the kind of movie that I didn't give any, you know, attention to back in the day.It's like terrified that, you know, I would be like too into it or something.And now I would love to be too into it.
06:30That sounds like a movie I need to go back and revisit.Yeah, because there's a lot of things that are coming around recently of things maybe we don't want to revisit because rock and rollists are being rock and rollers out there.Bad Boy Day.Theme of the week.Bad Boy Day.No happy, proud pleasures in David Grohl's life right now.Or maybe there are too many happy proud pleasures.It just depends on how he wanted all of the information to be released.
07:03Now we are talking about Dave Grohl has had a child outside of wedlock.Remove him from society.He's a pariah now.Remove him.Put him in the acid lake.It was also outside of his current marriage.So that is really where the problem resides.It is very funny though because I feel like at first it was a lot of like Dave Grohl, child out of wedlock.
07:27And I was like, I feel like the bastard part of this conversation is not why.We're having the conversation, guys.I don't understand.It's very secret lives of Mormon wives to keep talking about child on the wedlock.I'm like, nobody gives a shit about that.I mean, the Mormons do, but nobody else gives a shit about it.What we care about is his 21-year marriage.And this is outside of current wedlock.
07:52Like if you could say, like, outside of the current wedlock he currently has with the other mother of his children.And unbeknownst to her, he has sired a child on the side.Like, that's the headline.I think that there's something about hearing about like this type of infidelity or thistype of like marriage dissolution, you know, because he was like, I'm trying to work toregain the trust of my children and my marriage.I think maybe because I'm like the parent of young kids and I do know people whose marriageshave kind of not survived the early childhood period after having kids.
08:26There's something about.Sounds pretty difficult.Like there's something about people who have made it.I know I'm wrong.I know it's very common for marriages to like for people to get 20 years into a marriage and then realize like, you know what?This it was great for a while and it's not great anymore. And of course like if that's it, that then that's what you should do. But there's just for so, I think because when you're in the early childhood part, you feel it's so hard to feel connected to your partner and you're like, someday we're going to like get through this really intense part and then we'll like reconnect. And there's something about Dave Grohl. I mean, obviously it's the cheating and having a baby part that's the worst, not just the dissolution of the marriage. But there's some.something about being like, I've been with you 21 years through three children. And I'm going to goand fuck around, fuck it all up, right? And by sleeping with somebody. And it doesn't seem like his wife
09:15was, you know, it doesn't seem like it was something that they had agreed with her. No, she's openlyshocked about everything that happened. It was not a consenting thing. It was not an open thing.It was something that she did not know about. My, I think what actually annoys me about this story most isDave Grohl coming out being like,she was flirty with the tennis match coach.She was flirty with the tennis match coach.And it's like,her tennis coach loved her and posted several times on social media about how she's
09:44good at tennis.So you cheat on,I would say maybe then have,if you're upset that your wife is flirt and maybe have a conversation with herabout it and maybe talk like maybe we get a different tennis coach.Like maybe we can talk through this.Like there's so many things.It's not that you.
10:01publicly go, yeah, but she was, there was, it was.No, bro, I don't feel bad for you.It's also just the classic thing that everybody does when they're cheating or doing something bad.You know what I mean?It's the same thing as the pastor who's, you know, decries gay people or whatever that he's like doing meth with a male sex worker in the motel.Like, it's the same thing.Like the biggest tell is if you start screaming the thing that you're doing at the other person,You know what I mean?
10:32Yeah.You know, I also, my favorite tweet, I think it was from somebody I forget who is just like, let me get.I'm just going to go ahead and guess that the person that he had a kid with was born in a year that starts with a two.Yeah.Yeah, there is MJ2, but their kids are 10, 15, and 18.So like they still have a 10 year old too.So it's like, in my brain, I also thought the kids were much older.And then I saw their age as like, oh, I know you're at like the show.
11:01shit. I mean, the 15-year-old could go fuck themselves. With a 10-year-old, I do feel bad for it.Well, just, yeah, I mean, even, right, of course, the kids are going to be impacted. And I think, you know, I know people whose parents divorced when they were in college and it still, like, really had a big impact on them. So it's not even that, but it's like, it's just more like the, I don't know, it just feels like in my head. This is a very naive and childlike way to think about it. But I just kind of, when I'm like, when I'm like, when I hear about people who get divorced after 20 or 30 years, I'm like, but you put in, it's like, it's like, it's like. It's like.You don't want to put good money after bad.But like, how could it be 21 years together?And then you're like, oh, I should go sleep with a, you know, very young person.I think that's how you end it.I think it was well.There's one easy way to fix it.
11:47I also saw in the, in their.I'm not saying it's right.I'm just saying I think that that was an easier way for him to end it.You know what I mean?I think in the article, though, it even says that he, this is not like his firstbout with infidelity. I think he's this, yeah, he's rock and rollists. And one of the oldschool, he's an infidel. He's an infidel. Rock and rollists. And I, and it's like, you know,and I've been watching a lot of space show, been watching a lot of for all mankind, which I'm
12:14going to talk about over on talking TV. And like just thinking about like the idea of like,especially like things like astronauts back in the day, well, they just fucked anything that moved.And everybody knew that they just fucked anything that moved because they're an astronaut.And there are very few astronauts. So yeah, if they're going to go down.down to Houston before they're about to take off.Yeah, they're going to be banging a bunch of young fangs.And then they get to the moon and they're getting that moon pussy.And you're just like, when it's it?
12:41Slurping up there.It's difficult to slurp up there and you think about what they have to go throughwhen it's difficult to slurp on the moon, okay?I could not think of anything less horny than space.I would be puking everywhere.Stay away from all body parts.But look, I get it, you know.I mean, I get it.
12:57I mean, I'm a better man than Dave Grohl,But when we were on tour, I mean, the amount of vagina that was being just like thrown at my.Oh, yeah, we really couldn't.Remember guys how much?It was insane.Everyone was just like, I want to see what's inside of those pantaloos.Separate Holden.Yeah.
13:19Because like a Holden was scared.That's why you had to be separated.They put me in a shark cage because the amount of vagina that was just being just, it was great.They tried to.slapped at you.They tried to sneak itthrough the shark cagebars. I was like, this is a safe.
13:33Well, you can get some lip in there or something,but you've got to keep him away from holding,especially, oh, he's seriouswhen he's under the water.You know, I felt a lot about the rock and roll listwhen I did see the Jane Addictionsfight.I was going to say, let's talk about a
13:48stage.Let's talk about an elder rocker that I didn't know I was attracted to.It's not Dave Grohl.It's Dave Navarro.It's Dave Navarro.We're going from Dave to Dave.two very different reaction.Bad Dave, good Dave.
14:02Good Dave. Good Dave is Dave Navarro in this situation because, man, Jane's addiction had quite the fight on stage.And I want to say, like a lot of the headlines are saying it's between Perry Farrell and Dave Navarro.Or Perry Farrell and Dave Navarro.But it seems like it was just Perry against everybody else when you watch, like you watch the footage of the fight that happens on, because this is on their.reunition tour. It's areunion. Get with it. And they were up on that stagegetting into a fight and I thought that it was going to be morelike interpersonal going back and forth, back and forth. No. No.
14:41It's sad. Like Perry kind of. Had a flip out. Had anI don't know if he's a bad guy. I shouldn't say he's a bad guy, but he was having a badtime. So having a real bad time. So for whatever reason, I definitely was just like thisnews hit on a day where I was staring at my phone a lot. Probablylike Saturday where I'm just kind of like aimlessly scrolling. So I ended up like kind of lookinginto like the Reddit threads on this and stuff. A lot of people were talking about. Yeah, it was likethere's like there's like there's like all these different angles and Reddit threads aboutpeople who were there. People who have been kind of in contact, like telling, sharing different
15:13stories of what seems to be some heavy substance abuse on Perry Farrell's end. That's made it reallyhard for the band to like happen. You know what I mean? Just a lot of interactions being like,yeah, I saw him after this show. He was incoherent. Oh, yeah, at this, like, Irish theme show,he, like, downed an entire bottle of Jameson on stage. I was hoping it was a prop, but I don't think it was.And, you know, just this and that and just down, you know, downing wine bottles and stuff and, you know, on stage.And, you know, I think especially at that age, I mean, that stuff really catches up to you, you know,like, I mean, I've definitely encountered people. Like, I've seen it in front of my eyes. Like, if you're a drinker of that at that level,Once you get into those years, like, it literally just starts making you insane.
16:00You know what I mean?Yeah.It just starts making you, you know, I had a relationship with, I had a relationship withsomeone who, um, I literally thought they were just like that, like, it essentiallymade it seem like they were going through like kind of early dementia.Right.And then they got sober.And it was like, oh, this person's like back.
16:17Yeah.Completely.You know what I mean?It really seems like it's a sobriety issue.Yeah.And it's just sad.Yeah.You know, at the end of the day.
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17:10So start your weekend off right every Friday with the brighter side on the last podcast network.You beautiful babies.But I also appreciate that.So this was a reunition tour.and now Jane's addiction has canceled the rest of the reunition tour.But it was, they did come out and say due to the continuing pattern of behaviorand the mental health difficulties of our singer Perry Farrell,we've come to the conclusion that we have no choice but to discontinue the current U.S. tour.
17:43And I think that, I mean, it makes sense.I think it's good that they came out and they are fully saying it's his fault.And hopefully he will go and get the help that he needs now that this,tour has been canceled and hopefully that is the wake-up call that he needed all these videosbut you never know and a person needs to decide for themselves to go get the help that they needand all we can do is hope and yeah and I guess people I was thinking about this with Oasis too in ourconversation last week I'm like I guess brothers did you know yeah brothers I guess you know you canmake a lot of money on tour and so that was really honestly a perspective I hadn't really thought about
18:23of like why are these bands that seem to have like a lot of issues doing this,but you can make so much money that maybe they think they can just kind of power through it.Am I typing in Dave Navarro Badman?Oh my God, he's so pretty.My sixth grade best friend loved him and I didn't get it.It took me this long and now I get it.MJ start watching Inkmaster.Anyone that loves Jane's Addictions be like, no, you should listen to Jane's Addiction.
18:51But if you really want to fall in love,with the slide of his voice.Yeah.Just to watch him as the host.I also just really, really loved the show Inkmasterand watched many, many seasons of Inkmasterbecause it's a reality show about really cool tattoo artistsdoing tattoo challenges.
19:11Uh-huh.And it taught me so much.It's like Cake Boss, but for tattoos.Yes.But it also taught me so much about the different styles of tattoo,different, like, different difficulties tattoo artists could havewith, like, different kinds of skis.and different placements and things like that,
19:26things I had never thought about in the world of tattoos.So honestly, Holden,before you get your Salinas Ardothian tattoo,you should definitely watch a little bit of Inkmasterjust to learn a little bit more about the different styles.This, again, is an old show.I don't, I dare say, I'm sure it's not on anymore.It was on for a really long time, though.
19:44My final thought about Dave Navarra,first of all, I'm totally sold on Inkmaster.I also think that in addition to,because I haven't even heard,I get, hadn't thought about him until I saw this video.I haven't heard him speak.Haven't really paid attention to Jane's addiction.But even though the fight does escalate after the initial altercation,
20:03seeing a man, like, be physically confronted and then react in a very, like, calm and de-escalatory way.Extreme turn out.Which is what Dave Navarro does.Yeah.Like, Perry comes up to him and shoves him and it's, like, getting in his face.And, like, Navarro puts his, he's still playing guitar.Like, well, this is happening.I know it's bad.
20:23Very sick.And then he just, like, puts his hand out.And he's like, it just seems like very skilled.I mean, probably being an inkmaster teaches you a lot of interpersonal skills.I don't know.It seems like a very, very skilled, like, effort at de-escalation, which then kind of-Or very sad that he's used to working with him and used to how to talk to him to talk him back downbecause he was using a lot of de-escalation language.
20:46And he held his ground, but also was trying to, like, keep him away from other people as well.It was, yeah, made me, I can't believe you could fall more in love with Dave Navarro.And I guess you are hearing it today, everybody.Well, this has been bad Dave, good Dave with page seven.I mean, and for my horny boy side of things, my Sischet's disease side, Dave went, was, had a decently long relationship with my throb back in the day.And that would be Carmen Electra.I wanted that.I thought you were about to say,
21:23I was like,did you know someonethat dated Dave Navarro?No, no.I was really,I was here for the tea.I was just gearing upof like,
21:31tell me everything.And you're just talking about a rub off.You're just talking about a rub off.How many dirty,just dirty nutswere flung about.Yeah.Well, if you're talking dirty nuts,
21:45yeah,we're gonna talk the taste of you.Because we got to talkabout Sabrina Carpenterat the VMAWe need to talk about chapel at the VMAs.We need to talk about a lot of things that happen at the VMAs.But I'm going to say Sabrina Carpenter was the standout for me from the VMAs.
22:03Really?Wow.That performance was so much fun.And it was all space themed.And again, maybe I've just been living a lot of my life thinking about space.Oh, yeah.What's going on with the, are they still up there?They're still trapped.
22:17Oh, they're still up there.Oh, yeah.But I did.I gave out a shout out to someone that wrote.in last week that explained the situation a little bit further in the page seven podcast email.And I was like, thank you for explaining it. It made me not as upset about what's going on withthe astronauts, almost as if like they're trained and they know that this shit happens. And so it's notas bad. Yeah, they went to space. And we shouldn't be crying about them. It's not that I don't
22:41feel bad for them, but they, you got to be prepared to be in space for a while, I think, if you goto space. And they're prepared for a lot, apparently. And if I know for all mankind, I know they'reprepared for quite a bit because I watch a television show and it talks about space.But Sabrina Carpenter kisses an alien in it because then, oh, the trans aliens, oh, they'rekissing the aliens out there on the stage, which is very funny.And I don't think it had anything to do with making that joke.But it was real sexy.And I was talking about this before we started recording that like Sabrina Carpenter,
23:19I feel like I'm going to be attracted to in 20 years.Like,yeah,that's a thing.None of us,none of us have dirty nuts for Sabrina Carpenter.No.Because she,
23:28even though it's very much an adult,we here at page seven like to keep it with the dilfs and the milk.Yeah,I'm,I'm an older,I'm an older cat lover over here.And I just,I even looked up further into the Sabrina Carpenter breakup.
23:42Not anything else has come up since,like about a month ago.They were talking about Barry Keoggan and Sabrina Carpenter.having already broken up, but then he, like, posted some thirst thing at her.So everyone's like, I guess they're still together.But he wasn't with her at the VMAs.No.But I'm sure he's also very busy.
23:59Yeah.Getting into fucking pub fights, dude.That's a stereotype.It's just his culture.He's like, psh, just punches some guy that guy's like, oh, it's just glassedsome guy.It's like, that's what he was.Please, please, please don't prove her right.
24:14No, you know what I wish it had happened when Nicola Coughlin was on the red carpetit and people rudely kept walking in front of her.I wish that Barry Keoghan, out of Irish solidarity, had kind of emerged from the bushesand then started like breaking bottles over people's head.Don't disrespect a fellow Irish person, you know.Also, Nicola Coughlin is perfect and she should never.Also, it was very cute because she was talking about meeting Jennifer Aniston, who is likea big, like, crush for her and meeting Jennifer Anderson, how insane it was.
24:43And it just made me so happy for her.I'm so happy everything that she gets.I'm so happy for her.But you enjoyed Sabrina's performance.Well, it's not a comparison.But for you, Sabrina was the standout performance.See, for me, all the buzz, everything was chapel.I mean, chapel was insane.
25:01And I mean, what really, like, landed it for me.Good luck, babe, is not even my favorite chapel song.I'm currently in my home, we are living and breathing pink pony club.My children love pink pony club.I was going to say, Holden earlier with the Carr's soundtrack thing.The shift from my kids only listening to Disney soundtracks to listening to popmusic has been one of the best developments of parenting.Hell yeah.
25:22It's awesome.Oh, dude, I bet.It's so awesome.Real gone, real gone.See, we never did the cars so that you're on your own there.But.Lop is a highway.I want to run it.
25:34And don't worry.And isn't it like, it's not the original version, right?Yeah.It's a nightmare.It's a nightmare.Yeah.And then James Taylor sings this really sad song about a dying small town.And then we're all crying.
25:46And I'm like, why stop making me listen?to the song, you know what I mean?But good luck, babe, is not even my favorite chapel song.And so I, when I was watching afterwards, I was like, oh, got to watch the chapel.But I was like, but then I, you know, I saw the images and the flaming castle in her outfit.And I saw a tweet.Awesome. Awesome.Awesome.
26:05And I saw a tweet that was like, if I had seen like a lesbian from the Midwest singing about like a closeted gay relationship when I was a teenager, like it would have changed my life.And that was really kind of what hit me for how cool it was.People were very mad at Chapel for canceling these European tour dates so she could be at the VMAs.People are in general having a lot of feelings about Chapel and how she's dealing with her rapid meteoric rise to like extreme fame.But that tweet of just like, you know, you just saying that the queer representation happening at a stage like at the VMAs is,And we know that all the youth are queer,but it still is like really,really thrilling to see that type of cultural shift
26:54and have her be so worshipped, you know.And that red carpet moment too was crazy.Yeah, that not today, bitch, you were in her.Yes.When she was like, fuck off because someone was screaming at heron the red carpet and she turned aroundand actually like put up her boundary.Yeah.
27:12But I was just looking at this picture of Sabrina Carpenterduring, you know what it is?And I just realized it.I think Sabrina Carpenter having been raised on television has given her like the innatesense of ability of how to own the like when she did like Holden brought up earlier whenshe's like, what did she say when she like looked at right at the camera and she winkedfrom taste, right?Didn't she say something, Holden?
27:40Yeah, yeah.There was just this moment that's so campy and funny when she's like, I know.It's true.She like nods and kind of looks at like the,and I think of the space alienand they like share a little bitor maybe it's the astronaut,but either way,
27:54it's just such as like,the whole performance was just so sillyand like it got in my head.I don't know why.Her stage presence is pretty impeccable though.I know what you mean.I see what you mean, Jackie.Because she's just like,
28:05she has like a command of the audience.She really does.There's something about herthat you're just in me.And it has nothing to youbecause again,my nuts are not dirty for her.Yeah.
28:16It really has nothing to do with that.It's just watching her perform, she's so dynamic, and she's just, like, so much funwrapped into a small package.And I feel like Chapel is doing such a great job of going out and trying to own thisspace to show, like, I not only deserve to be here, but I'm going to, like, blow yourexpectations about what pop music on a stage can be, which is so fucking cool to see.Yeah.And then you see the, I feel like.
28:46They are a cool, like, Chapel and Sabrina are like a cool spectrum of what different kinds of youngartists are doing right now in the pop world.Totally.Where it's like, that's such a cool thing to do, Chapel.But then watching Sabrina Carpenter with all these like crazy like space dancers behind her doing this big fun thing.But then also making these like really cool little moments, I'm just blown away by that too.Totally.You know, the other thing too with Chapel, there's.
29:16But I this always tell me if you have this.There should be like a word for this, like a German word.You know what I mean?There's one point where she tosses the sword.She takes, she has a sword her hand and she throws it.And this guy who feels way too far away to be from her grabs it in this moment.And it's a very fast moment.But it makes me want to shit my pants.
29:37I'm just like, no, no, don't do.Why would you put that in the choreography?Oh my God.So scary.What if you missed that?Yeah.It's so.And I know there must be some.
29:46way that it just doesn't get missed.But that sword toss is such a butt clincher for me.I don't know if you guys have that.I also had this back of the day.This is such a, maybe I've talked about this before.If I was watching like a play and a woman, like this only happened like once or twice,but a woman's, I was afraid a woman's press were going to come out of her top.It wasn't exciting.
30:08I got, I get extremely nervous and terrified for her.There's got to be like a word for that.Yeah, anxiety disorder.the word for it.I couldn't come straight on the show.I'd just be like, what of her tits fly out of her shirt?And it's like this horribly embarrassing.When you're a performer too, because you're thinking about it from the perspective of a performer
30:27of what could go wrong.I mean, that's why it's really hard for me to like, I'm so giving at like stand-up shows.Like, even if you suck ass, I'll be like, ah, ha.Because I just like hate.I just want to crawl up inside of myself a die for people who are like struggling on stage or, like, having a hard time.I do completely understand.And also, it is true that Chapel is like less polished, right?Because she's so, I mean, she's been a musician for years, but she's only been famous for like five minutes.
30:53And so it is.And also, I mean, there were so many tweets about people kind of, I think after the VMA's people kind of like paying attention to espresso for the first time.And they were like, what are the lyrics to this song?And I think it is so funny to contrast good luck, babe, where the lyrics will have you like sobbing.And then espresso where the lyrics you are like, what?But yet both songs go so hard.You know, like they each, you're not listening to espresso for the lyrics.That's hot for you.
31:23That's what I love about pop music.I love it pop.Just like you were saying, Jake.Yeah, encapsulate so much because then you also listen.I mean, oh, coffee by Chapel Rowan.Like if you want to, coffee will rip you apart as well as casual.But yeah, that's not what you're going to Sabrina Carpenter for.Yeah, espress is about how a woman's keeping a guy's dick up all night.
31:44I mean, that seems pretty.And I love move it up, down, left, right, oh, switch it up like Nintendo.That's what I'm talking about right there, dude.She's very fun, sexy.It is a, like, it is a different way of owning herself.She's owning her sexuality, and she loves making fun, silly songs, and also pushing awayfrom the Disney girl that she was for a really long time.And you're watching her, like going through a very significant.
32:14successful transition.Totally.I feel.But at the same time,it is kind of funny that,you know,her first thing she got really well known foron like a huger scale
32:22was being the other woman in Olivia Rodriguez.Olivia Rodriguez.And then,and so for her to be so like sex forward,you know,in comparison,I feel like,like Olivia Rodriguez sings a lot more about
32:34just like,it's hard being a girl in the world.Yeah,yeah,Olivia Rodriguez lyrics go super hardat a totally different waythan both chappellate way.And she's even saying,
32:42too bad your ex don't do it for you.walked in and dream came true to it for you soft skin i prefer to for you i know i'm out and do it foryou i keep your dick up all night suck it till the suckin's right keep that hopefully not on the moonthough we know slurps aren't right on the moon yeah no moon man moon man sucked your dick at two a m i knowthat was a weird one that was a weird lyric i mean honestly i would love to hear that song thoughif Sabrina carpenter wanted to make it now you know we're not always looking forpure sex in our pop.And that goes to show because we enjoy one Taylor Swift.
33:21And she is not, you know, the ultimate of sex in the world of pop, I would say.Dress is a sexy song, man.I will throw it out there.Dress is a, it is a sexier song.Hold it.Hold your line.Your line is that you can get a Taylor Swift tattoo, even though you claim you are aheterosexual man, but you are not slinging dirty nuts for her.
33:44I believe you.No, no.When I hear dress, I imagine her in the room serenading Lexi and my lovemaking.Yeah.That is very different.Gotcha.And I'm not looking at her.I'm not observing.
33:54She's not like a part of it.She's just in the room.Maybe she's enjoying what we're doing for her.I doubt it.You know what I mean?I don't think she is.But hopefully you're being her so much money that she's down with it.Oh, yeah.
34:07Like a bill.It would be like, yeah, it'd be like $500 million.Yeah.$500 million.Yeah.And in this fake scenario.It may as well be $500 million.Definitely.
34:16And hopefully she can be like behind some sort of, I don't know, like a, like a window, but it's covered.Yeah, that would be nice.Like a tinted glass.Where you can see her, but she doesn't have to see you.She's just playing dress to a black mirror.But she knows that you and Lexi are getting it on on the other side.Like she's consented to all of it.Right.
34:37I'd prefer it.Yeah.If we could have it like as her manager, I would prefer it if we could do it that way.And thank you.And I'm really glad that we figured this out.Yeah.It's not even the worst thing that happened to her this week because of what'shappening with Trump.
34:49You guys listened to us last week and oh, baby, less than 12 hours after we recorded, did Taylor Swift obviously endorse Kamala.And thank you.And I just want to reiterate because I want to make sure I don't think that celebrities need to come out and endorse a political campaign.I don't think that they do.I do know that Taylor Swift has a huge, huge fan base that does whatever she says.And we really need the votes, guys.And if this, I'm like, that's why I wanted this to happen.Totally.
35:29Anything.I don't need anybody else.You don't have to say whatever you want.We need it.We did kind of need this.And now it goes to show because of how much she's now being brought up in this election.how what they were actually scared of and that was this.And between the AI post from Trump and like Elon and shit and the Britney
35:53Mahomes thing, a little less so the Britney Mojohn scene, but especially the AI post.I said it back then and she cited it in her endorsement for Kamala.So Kamala, she endorsed, you know, she cited the AI thing as being like really gross.The misogyny, I know it's like shocker.there's misogyny coming from that camp.But it's like really like astounding how just how disgusting they're being.And they just like, they're being so like fratty and just, I don't know, it just blames me out sohard.
36:24So I was like, dude, you've got to say something, you know?Like I don't think I would feel that way nearly as much if it weren't for the AI thing.I mean, at the end of the day, I need everybody to scream to the heavens because I need thisto happen and be done, you know, because it's like getting dangerous now.But I just want to say thank you, Taylor, from a childless plant lady to a childless cat lady.I just want to say, I appreciate it.Totally.It's totally.
36:52It's nice.Thank you.How can I, how can I goosewash myself?I'm sorry, Gloria.I love you, babe.I personally am in the camp more where, like, I like it when celebrities, like, make their values and, you know, politics.politics clear. And I understand why some people are like, this is, I'm coming here to,you know, listen to your music. I don't really care who you're voting for or whatever. So I
37:19understand both camps. But from the point of view of just, again, from an organizing voting perspective,I mean, she got 300,000 people to visit the voter registration site, right? Like there's just,it's like if you. The day she posted. That was like right after she posted it. Yes. Like just onon a purely tactical level, I think you have this army of girls and women who look to you.And does that mean you're obligated to make your politics?No, no.But if you have politics, I think that it's brave of you to say so, especially when it could have a real material impact on like our very dangerous situation.Exactly, which is why I kept yelling at her last week.
38:06And yeah, and so then she heard us, even though the podcast hadn't even been posted yet, but she heard us yelling.And then she said she posted the endorsement.Well, let's say it.It's because of the debate.She posted it after that.Well, I'm sure she had it in drafts, right?For sure.But she started off her post with, like many of you, I watched the debate.
38:24It was her with a cat.And as she, my kids yesterday were like, Taylor, Taylor Swift has a cat named Olivia Benson.And I was like, how do you know that?that they learned it from their slime channels.But I'm like, yeah, like they're...Jujibis?Beachy babies.Beachy babies.
38:42But anyway, I think that if you are a person who are like,why does every celebrity have to have a political opinion?I get it.And things are pretty dire out there right now,as evidenced by the reaction to this.And she says, and this is a crafty of her, right?Because as we talked about last week,she has all sorts of conservative women who love her.
39:05So she tried to kind of have it both ways by being like, I am a childless cat lady.I'm going to vote for Kamala, but you don't have to.You should do your research and vote for whoever you want.So I, although like conservative Mormon women I follow, we're like, she's not telling us what to do.She wants us to have our own thoughts.And I'm like, yeah, if that makes you feel better and you can still like Taylor Swift,but you're still going to vote for Trump, whatever.But the fact, the Trump reaction of literally typing in all cats, I hate Taylor Swift.
39:32like he's a toddler.I'm like, what world are we living?And it's so...And he kept being like,she's going to pay for it in the marketplace.And he had a couple of days of being like,I don't care.Nobody likes Taylor Swift.
39:45It will impact her in the marketplace.And that's what the best thing about that true social postis it came like four days after the endorsement.So it was like stewing, you know.And then just completely lost.And probably got some kind of really good news according to usand very bad news according to him.about the voter registration or whatever.
40:06And I know people are rolling their eyes a little bit at the reports now thatBritney McHobes is now starting to question your Donald Trump's.We're like, oh, it took that and not all these other things.But I don't care.I want to see it happening.Everything else.I was hoping, though, that this would happen.And I'd love to see that it might happen because his one thing was like, you know who I
40:24actually like is that Britney Mobs.So if she turns, changes her tune, that will be just such a funny littleextra bonus, you know, to be like, no, no, nobody likes you.And yes, it's true that it would have been great for Brittany and Mahomes to notice thatshe, that Trump is bad, but for all the other things he did.That said, listen, I try to operate from a all are welcome whenever you arrive.There's no such thing as getting here too late.Each one, teach one.
40:53Bring it in.Bring it in.There's no like, oh, fuck you.You should have reacted when he said all the racist shit about immigrants.Yes.Yeah.Yeah.Also, glad you're here.
41:01here. Yes, you should have. And glad you're here. Welcome, Brittany Mahomes. Like, if, if that'swhere it goes, if it takes you being personally affected, yes, that is an extremely close-minded,kind of selfish way to go about the world. But also, if it has a net positive effect, then welcome.You know what I mean? So she's like, you're being mean to my friend Taylor. Great. All right.Well, I guess we'll take it. Come on over. I guess we will take it. And, you know, I'm just excited. Ihope Kamala is excited about her Ben and Jerry's own flavor that she's going to beit. Yes, it is based on the coconut tree viral meme and it is going to be a coconut-basedBen-a-Jerry's. And I just think it's kind of fun that they're not being both. I don't think
41:49that they're making one for both sides. Can I read the first comment on this article about Kamala'scoconut flavor by Ben and Jerry's. The first comment is, geez,Wokey Company makes it turd-flavored ice cream for a literal turd.Yeah.Get on.Oh, yeah.There you go.Wow.
42:13Good one.Wow.Oh, there are replies to it.Don't worry.Yeah.Is that every reply?Leave your house.Go outside.
42:25Oh, I'm not getting into those comments.We're not getting into those comments.that the world is not actually, see that no one is actually trying to eat your pet.It is not real.I guess we're also not really even going to get into the Emmys.Oh, God.Throw it out there.Little Borough snort.
42:42Yeah, I mean, what's to get into.Dan and Eugene Levy did awesome.I love them.Yeah, they did a great job.They definitely didn't, like, there were no, like, brutal upsets.They didn't piss anybody off to any extreme measure, which I feel like at this point,kind of makes a boring.The biggest upset was that the bear
43:03being classified as a comedy.Yeah, I was about to say,which is every year.And I know we explained it that likeinitially the bear was a comedy in season one.And it requires a certain amount of minutes.And I do feel,I'm going to throw that out there,
43:16that they may have forced a little bit moreof the comedy into the last seasonthat I thought that I was like,we don't, you don't need to force it.Yeah.I didn't feel.But it's a certain amount of minutesthat has to be funny
43:29that is still considered a comedy.And they are considered a comedy, but they didn't, you know, they didn't get it.Hacks.Yeah.And that's great.People are so upset about this.And I'm like, I am glad that we have shows that can't be so easily categorized.Sure.
43:43And I guess I understand why, like, the comedy people are like, the bear keeps stealing our shit because it's a prestige drama.You know, like, so I understand why the comedy people are upset.But also, I think blurring those lines is cool.I think what's, I think that blurring the lines is cool.What's annoying is that comedies just classically get short shrift and, you know, they never get Oscars.It's, you know, it's so hard for comedies to get their dues.So it's like kind of an extra slap in the face to be like, hey, this category is not only do we are we competing with musicals for no fucking reason, but now also we might not even get that award for comedy or musical.Yeah.
44:23You know.No, that makes sense.Like, come on.It's like such a diminishing.It makes sense.It's such a weird respect thing for comedies.It's like they don't, I just, it's so dumb.It's like they don't matter as much.
44:34Yeah, no, that makes sense.Like the parent of one of the hacks actresses who's tweeted out,fuck the bear.Like, I understand.Lorraine Newman, right, from, is that it?Or, yeah.No, Hannah Eindinder's mom tweeted fuck the bear.Yeah, which I thought was, what's her name from.
44:51Lorraine Newman?Yeah, from S&L season one.Really?Whoa.Small world.Maybe I'm wrong.But that's what I thought.But I love tweeting out fuck the bear.
45:02And I, you know, it is.But also, you know, cousins really good.Totally.Jerry Melling White, really good.I understand why they win.It is.But also I just feel like, and I know that this is just like a broken record kind of thing to say.There's just so.
45:18And I understand why because like to become a part of these award seasons, you have to pay into it.You have to like want to become and like vie for it.and go after it, and it is a money issue.There's just so much, I watch so many great shows that have nothing to do with the Emmys.I watch so much good television, and so much of it is not even included or up for any of it,that it makes me a little sad that it's like, well, there are these eight shows when in reality,like that is from a time when we had such a monoculture, and now we have.give so much more to ingest that like, and I know they're trying to create other like
46:02streaming platform award shows and things like that. And they're trying to like bump that up.But I really feel like they should because so much work doesn't get recognized. And I try toseek out shows. And that's why I love it when y'all hit us up with TV recommendations over atpage 7 podcast at gmail.com. Because I love hearing about shows that I'm like, how did this getBarry.Yeah.Why is Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?That's not,
46:31I was literally about to say that.Up for best.I'm not getting enough recognition.I'm talking about Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.For hours.I'm not.Why didn't they win for most exhaustinggroup of women on television?
46:44I thought they had a lock on that category.Oh, I can't wait for Tad.You forget.Yeah, we will be talking about it on Toggin'TV.I have watched a few episodes now and have many thoughts.I love it.About these high schoolers.I mean, grown women that are in this TV show.
47:03I love it.But I think that it's time for you, Owen.I think it's time for the share.Hit me with it.Do you believe it?Are Steven Seagall's movie's money laundering schemes for Russian oligarchs?Oh, man.Yes.
47:19Such a piece of garbage that I'm going to go.I'm going to already say yes.Yes, they are.Book thief here.I saw this one.on Reddit a while back. Oh, it's book thief. So you know this shit is good. Hell yeah, book thief.Thank you. And since you need some conspiracy theories, I thought I said it this your way,are Steven Sagan movies just mundering, laundering vehicles for Russian oligarchs. We all know
47:39Steven Sagan. In the late 80s and into the 90s, he was an action hero using his martialart skills to kick ass in movies like Under Siege. Alas, his star power is short-lived.As he lost his contract with Warner Brothers and switched almost exclusively making directed DVDfilms in 1998 and kept making them at least one a year until 2019.only the last few of which seemed to have made the switch to video on demand.DVD sales have plummeted since their peak in 2005,so who the heck is investing in making these movies?I think some of our dads.
48:08The answer, Russian oligarchs.The film industry is notorious for laundering moneyand a fading pro-putin, fading action starwho has been accused by multiple women of sexual harassment and assaultis the perfect person to back such a scheme.So what does Seagal get more?returned well besides continuing to produce and star in action movies he was granted russian citizenship but it makessense if he's putting his own money into it the only way he is even still doing it can we get rid of
48:39stephen seagal can we get he be gone we kind of did he was granted russian citizenship in 2016 i'm sure uh youuh yeah so i mean it just seems pretty obvious that that's exactly what it is i can't believeyeah he's still in the mix i didn't know he's a special representative for russiaU.S. cultural links,cultural and historicalheritage? What?Yeah, that's a headscr. That means professionalEnglish-speaking vodka drinker.
49:07That is what that means. That is exactly.Also, side, I like this for Book The End.I don't think Orville Peck and Diplowever fucked, by the way. The lyrics toDaytona Sand make it seem like Diplowas afraid of ever taking that stepinto an actual relationship. So I thinkthey were just a star-crossed, what if?
49:23So maybe they just kissed a little.It may still happen, though.You saw the photo of them at the Glad Awards.I sent you.Yes, we did.So let's keep an eye on the blinds.Hopefully that will evolve and change.And there'll be...
49:38We've got to hold out hope for tops and bottoms and switchesand all that sort of stuff going on.But...Yeah, because Daytona Sand is totally...It's like a lost love.Yeah.It's not...Yeah.
49:50Maybe he's going to take him on a midnight ride.Oh, no.That's going to explode.I'm sorry to bring up Pink Pony Club again,but the video of Orville Pack singing Pink Pony Club,yes, please.Oh, my God, I hope he sings it.I'm going to the concert.
50:07I hope he sings it.I'm going to keep on dancing.That sounds more like, I don't know.Yeah, that sounded like a posy.That was a posy.I apologize.Yeah, and that's the problem.I think whenever you try to be different pop stars,
50:22you just sound like different Muppets characters in the day.That's just the puppet in you.That's not the espresso.That's just the puppet in you, dude.Yeah, I can't help it.The puppet lives within you.I believe, if you Google Steven Segal Russia, he was literally there in May of 2014 attending Putin's inauguration ceremony.Yeah, this is, I had no idea all this shit was going on with Steven Seagal.
50:45And, I mean, I knew the bad shit, but this is ridiculous.Yeah, I knew about the sexual assault.I didn't know about the Russian.Man, I really miss back in the day when it was just a very clear-cutting.division between America and Russia and our relationship.And it's just got...I thought you were going to say a clear-cut division between celebrities and politics.Oh my God, that too.
51:07Well, I mean, I guess.I mean, you know, it's always been around, you know.Yeah.I mean, the whole McCarthy era, the communist...Yeah, you're right.You're right.Red scare shit.It's always kind of been connected, though.
51:19Sorry, Putin bestowed a state decoration on Stephen Seagal.He awarded him the Order of Friendship.And this, what is happening over there?What's happening?What is happening?Truly.Yeah.Yeah.
51:34These Google results are blow in my mind.So, yeah, I mean, I believe.Thank you, book thief.I guess we believe.And I guess it's time for the list.Oh.Who's on the list?Checking.
51:47Got to have that list.Actors that lied about accents, talents, injuries, and more to their directors and producers.Now, this one starts off out the game.gate. We know about this one that Keanu Reeves lied about the insane serious injury he had in his back while auditioning for Neo and he didn't want to let them know what was going on because he wanted to get the role. He revealed that he had to train in a neck brace for the demanding fight scene saying my spinal column was being sausages basically. So I had to have a two level fusion on my spine before training and they put a plate in my neck.But I never actually told anyone because I didn't want to tell anyone I wouldn't be able to do the film.All sausages spinal column, hey yo!Hey, yo!Sounds scary!
52:39Sounds very, very scary.Now, I've been, maybe I'm just over here dreaming a lot about Paul Meskell because he's going to be a gladiator two, and I can't only to see it.Yes.But thinking about him and normal people, if you haven't watched normal people, you should certainly.Wink! Check it out.H wink!It's a really, really horny show based on a horny book.And it's sad. It's all sad.
53:05Anyway, Paul Meskell lied about being able to drive,and he needed to be able to drive during the movie.It was Paul's agent who lied to the producers on his behalf,which he revealed saying,my agent was like, we're not losing this job over you not being able to drive.So I'll tell production you can.And in the meantime, you go off and you rattle through as many lessons as you can.Thankfully, the lie and the lessons seem to have paid off because Paul is driving in the series, so obviously he figured it out at some point.
53:35And of all these things, I feel like learning how to drive is probably the easiest thing to learn.I mean, depending on if you're scared or if you're driving an automatic or if you're driving a manual.But Anne Hathaway, I can't imagine for the audition for Brokeback Mountain, it went really well for Anne Hathaway.She said, I left that room knowing I had closed it, locked it, welded it shut.I knew it was mine.And as she was walking out, Ang Lee asked, oh, by the way, can you ride a horse?And she's like, yeah.Yeah, of course I can.
54:09Oh, my gosh.She said, my parents have given me a lot of gifts in my life.And one of them is, if you're ever asked if you could do anything, say yes.You can learn anything in two weeks if you're motivated enough.So I had never been on a horse.And I replied, oh, yeah, I'm a really good rider.Oh, my God.She put herself to work and learned how to ride, but her first day with the horse didn't quite go as planned.
54:31She said, I was given a horse on set without being told it was a verbal command horse, so I couldn't figure out how to make it ride.And I went to rehearsal in front of 300 extras, all of whom work in rodeos, and the horse wouldn't do a damn thing I wanted it to.And at the end, it threw me in front of everyone.Wow.I can't imagine how embarrassing that would be.I can't.A terrifying.I mean, I have often felt grateful that I learned to drive as a teenager before I had any sense of my own mortality because I think it would be much harder to learn as an adult.
55:03And I love adults who don't drive.I just love, because I, like, dream of a carless society.So I just love adults who have, like, made it this far.I'm like, no, I don't do it.But I like, I just don't ever.It's interesting, though, because in L.A., when you go on a date and usually if someone doesn't drive, I feel like I have heard that it is a huge red flag in L.A.if someone doesn't drive just because it makes your life.Of course.
55:25I mean, you can't live anywhere.I understand where you're coming from.You can only live in New York City in this country if you don't drive.We were already just like figuring out how to get a second car.Just even that is just a not.I've trapped in this apartment.I can't leave this apartment.I can't go anywhere because either I have to be here for Winnie or I have to be or Lexi needs the car for work.
55:43It's just insane.I just can't.Our country is structured to be that it's like you have to.Which is why I think it's kind of fun when somebody has either purposely or on accidentopted out of that skill.But conversely, I never, ever want to ride a horse.Like, I don't, I'll ride a horse.But they're so scary.
56:00I'm so scared of horses.I, like, really respect the horse.And the idea of having to, like, fake it till you make it on a horse, terrifying.I am so scared of horses.They're so big.They're so smart.I have a lot of respect for them.And I met a horse that was having a bad horse day.
56:18And I guess it was, like, an older horse.And sometimes, like, they, there was something wrong.with the horse's brain and it was like, like, it was acting like really, really erratic and likethrowing itself up against the side of this like huge, like, it was out in this field and it wasjust like running and trying to like run at the trainer. And I was there with my friend who'strying to get me to not be scared of horses. And I was like, I'm sorry, bitch, but this ain'thelping me. And now I'm even more scared of a horse. I know it was just a bad brain day and I've gotI remember that day.
56:51I remember the horse found out I was talking bad behind its back.Why would you?I don't know.I don't know.You piece of hay.I just,I just feel like it's like a trashy horse.I just was like,
57:02I don't know,you're just like a trashy horse.That horse was like Whitney from Secret Lives and Mormon Wives.She was just like,she was done.She was done.She doesn't care.She's done.
57:12She's over it.Talk to me about it.That's what the horse was saying.When she was throwing herself against the fence,talk to me about it.Don't call someone else.to me. It should just be called, it should be calledHigh School for Adults. How dare you? Because they're just like,
57:26I can't believe you're drinking at my parents' hat. Like, it's just so... We're going to talk abouton talking TV. Right now we're talking about Robert Pattinson. And this also goes to showhow stupid Americans are. When Robert Pattinson was really not having any luck with his career,he wanted to try his luck in L.A. And so he decided, because he's got a British accent. He said,I'd been unemployed for ages. And when I came to Los Angeles, all the casting directors wouldask what I'd been doing for the past few years. I'd say, oh, I was at Rata. If you've got anEnglish accent, you can get away with it. I'd say I went to Oxford too. I did it for years.And he just lied about what he did because he just assumed with his accent, people aren't going to
58:05look into it and they're not going to know. This is great. And he was right. Yeah, this is like aSeinfeld episode. This is great. I love this for him. Yeah, it's great. There's so many things youcould just lie about and people just will never actually look into it. You know,it's kind of amazing. That's why, you know, these sociopaths. Call Oxford. Yeah, you could just say like,yeah, up is down, you know, you just today more than ever. They, they don't look. Everyone's lazy.We're all tired, you know. And this is a weird lie because usually it's the opposite way. ChrisHemsworth. Chris has become one of the biggest Hollywood stars. The casting call for the Marvel franchise, though,was looking for the God of Thunder. They were looking for someone over 6'1. While Chris's height may have been a blessing in that
58:49particular role, he revealed that he's usually forced to lie about his height when auditioningfor something in order to not be disregarded for being too tall. He said there are certainly thingsI've wanted to go up for, which I've been totally wrong for physically, and I normally lie about my height,which is six three, and say I'm short. Wow. Every short guy, a short king on Tinder hates seeing that.Yeah. So annoyed at that. Yeah, everyone will be mad. I feel like at this point, no point in law. It's another one of those things. We talkabout with your dating apps, don't lie about what you look like. There's just no reason for it.People are going to find out. And like, as someone that like has dated short people before,I don't care. And if you care that much to lie about it, I feel like this is a much bigger
59:35issue. Yeah. And we're already starting that we got to, oh, well, then we got to talk about likethe obvious lie that you like when someone says they're five, eight and they show up and you're like,you're my height. And that's, there's no problem with that. But I. But I.feel weird that you lied about it.Anyway, that's just my two cents on the dating apps.What about Hallie Berry in the movie, bruised?The Oscar winner had to put up a serious fight literally while portraying a retiredMMA fighter, making their return to fighting.
01:00:06It was during her training that she encountered a serious issue where she was kickedin the torso and actually broke two ribs.Waring that it would threaten production, she decided to keep it a secret from the producers,as she explained, it threatened production so I'vemade the decision not to tell anyone in case we were shut down. I carried on and I think the fighterside of my training took over. It was only when we finished that I told everyone and I went to thehospital. But like that could be, that could like puncture along. I know. There's so many thingsthat could happen. I know that actors are in a union, but this list should just be like OSHA violation.
01:00:40Like I just am worried about everyone. It's like everyone is like, I lied and I hurt myself. You know,like I just want them to not get hurt. But I get.it. You don't want to lose the role, so you let your rib puncture your lung.It is, like, that's, this is like, when I look at poor chapel ron and what she's going throughwhen it comes to being famous and what she goes through, it is, like, we have conditioned peopleto be like, that's what you go through. When you choose this as your business, you've got thosebroken ribs, but you will lose the job. You will lose everything. They will never want you back.That is what you are told every time you have an issue in any way, shape, or form when you are hired to a show.
01:01:22You are threatened consistently that you, they'll just get rid of you and get somebody else.Also, why grooming is so prevalent because you don't want to do anything to disrupt anything.Yes.You don't, you know, even if something feels uncomfortable or wrong deep down, you go along with it because you're like, this is my one shot.Yes, I think that's right.And even though actors are in a union, it does feel like they're still.still, like, these stories are all,everybody turned out fine, but there is so
01:01:49much, like, coercion and, like,messed up power dynamics in thisworkplace environment, right?And it should change. It's what led to the incident on theoriginal Crow movie, is they wereover, it was like before good regulationswere on films for overworked.Everybody was overworked and exhausted, and they let
01:02:06the gun person go home earlythat day because they were wiped out andeveryone, no one else was paying good at things, because they were alltired. You know what I mean? That's what's up. And then people get hurt. Yeah. It's just, it's soscary. And but then they let people, which I can't imagine how scary it is like on this list.Helen Mirren, oh God, where did my list go away? I'll find. Ad blocker all of a sudden in themiddle of my list and now it just won't show me any of the pictures. Well, Helen Mirren is on this listand she wanted to do her own stunts in this movie essentially. And how scary must that be for the stunt team
01:02:44working on a film when an actor wants to do their own stunts,when it's like there are stunt people for a reason.And I know that it is real badass and real cool to be able to do these things.Helen Mirren on Shazam Fury of the Gods.The legendary actor broke her finger while filming Shazam Fury of the Gods,but due to her desire to be accepted by the stunt team,she decided to keep the injury secret.On hiding the injury, Helen said,
01:03:09when you're in that stunt world, the stunt people are so brave,and you want to be accepted by them,I'm sucking up to the stunt people.Helen sustained the injury wallmiskewing a movement in one of the fight scenesand ended up making contact with the wall.And now it seems like this was probably a portion of the fightwhere they needed her and not the stunt people,
01:03:29so it doesn't seem like she was like saying,I'm doing my own stunts.It's probably just a portion where they're going to see her face.So I understand wanting to hide that,but it is insane that Helen Mirren,and this is just removed Shazam Furyof the gods who gives a shit. And she's still doing this. KJ. Epa. Did you see the KJ. Epa?Same thing. He broke his hand on Riverdale. And he didn't tell anyone just like Helen Mirren.
01:03:53And that's for Riverdale. Yeah. KJ. Epa. Because he knew that like you're just threat,you're under threat of losing your job and losing everything all the time. And it is stressful.Yeah. And it is a strain. And it shouldn't be this way. And I don't know how to change these businesses.But, you know, I know that Chapel Rhone saying like, hey, what if we stop putting up with this shit is a start?Yeah.And I, for one, plan to do nothing about it.Good for you, Holden.I only feed into it.
01:04:25I am a people pleaser.And yes, I will do whatever you need me to do.I'm part of the problem.Hello, it's me.It's me.Divorce your husband and take some pills.Jackie do it.Jackie do it.
01:04:40Why can't I stay?with my husband and take pills.Because if you have to get marriedto the pills for them to work properly.I don't want to get married.I had to put on another wedding.I can't do it.Yes.
01:04:52I can't do.Do you take these pills to be your husband?Already did you fuck.You may now drool on the floor.I'm not going to be doing that.Oh, right.Are you blind or something?I think I'm going.
01:05:05Blind.Item.We can't see them.This singer,or this rapist, rapper.Rapper is better than rapist.A person.Young, yes, rapist isn't good.
01:05:18We're leaving that one.We're moving out.Right off.Don't write it out.Almost got kicked out of a restaurantfor getting freaky in the bathroom.She's contentious with her followerson social media.
01:05:32Your clue.Doja cat.Yes.They always describe her in the blindsas this, the marijuana feline.But I feel like that just givescompletely away.Every time the blinds always
01:05:41Honestly, that would probably just confuse me.Marijuana, feline.I feel like I'd get way too wrapped up in the word pussy.And I, there's no way.Right.I actually think it would be difficult for me.Pussy Laru.I'm like, that's not a person.
01:05:54You know, pussy galore, like, closer.Vagina dentata.Still not a real person.Vigida dentata.None of those are real people.They're all movie things.Yeah, she was spotted out with Stranger Things actor Joseph Quinn at a restaurant in Italyrecently.
01:06:08If you remember, she like, put a social media.post out being like, hey, I want to get that Quinn ace.And then they actually got together based on that.Didn't she also get into a big fight with a different Stranger Things actor?Yeah, I think so.Remember?They were yelling at each other.I don't know what's going on with her in Stranger Things.
01:06:26I wonder if maybe that's the only show Doja Cat has watched.Right.Maybe it's just.I swear my enemies and my lover is comfortable.She's so out of it that she thinks that's the only show that exists.It's a weird, like no one's explained her.There are other shows exist.She thinks those are all, like, fake movie posters on Netflix.
01:06:45It doesn't know that other apps are there.This one-named permanent A-L-L-Singer has to learn how to walk again after getting her BBL removed.B-B-L removed.Yeah, dude.One-name.One-named.What did you just say, MJ?I said Rihanna.
01:07:03No, and not Shakira either.No.Not Shakira.Absolutely not.We mentioned earlier in the show a movie that she's in.She's older.Madonna.Yes.
01:07:12Apparently she was stumbling and bumbling and heels at the New York Fashion Week appearance that she made recently.Did she get another one put in?I don't know.I think maybe she just got it deflated.You know what I mean?She might have been stumbling and bumbling for her.Because she's eating out of a cat food.I mean, I don't know what's going on with her these days.
01:07:31But I guess the word of the street is she got that.Bacht butt lift.Brazilian butt lift.BBL not done well.BBL's not done well.Don't look at that.Jesus God, don't look at that.Yeah, I'm not going to look at that.
01:07:42But they're not saying that about Madonna.Are they, Jackie?Are you just looking up a random, like?No, I looked up Madonna BBL, and it saysMadonna botched butt left.BDL, not done well.And I'm looking at pictures of her badbutt.
01:07:57She's got bad butt disease.Oh, my God.Some of us have bad brain.Some of us have bad butt.Got bad butt.Oh, my God.I got a bad butt.I'll tell you that much, man.
01:08:05I'm farting and I'm shit, man.I'm pissed.Get some more flax and shit.It's that IPA, man.It's that IPA beer.It just makes me...It really blasted out of me.Yeah, apparently it was botched.
01:08:19He's a lot of corn lately, so I don't know what's going on with that.But anyways...Well, corn's in seasons.Is that what it is?Is that what it is?Oh, I love it.I love it, but it's just, you know, I'm shitting.I'm fine.
01:08:31All right.Okay.He's still blind.I don't want to think about your shit and you've fought it.Speaking of one-name singers,This permanent A-list singer knew she wasn't going to be nominated in the awards that were announced today.It is the same reason her album was never played on any radio stations that have that music format.Beyonce, not an up for any of the CMA award.
01:08:54Latest album snubbed by the CMAs this year and after she got a backlash for just for daring to perform at their precious award show.They should be so fucking lucky CMAs. You suck.I also think it's very funny, though.There's a lot of people putting out country albums post.he just put one out.What's his name?Young Gravy just put a country album out.Everyone's going country.
01:09:16Everyone's going country right now.I'll listen to a Young Gravy country album.Hell yeah.He was on a podcast I was enjoying.He's funny.Young Gravy is one of those that I'm like,I shouldn't have such a crush on you.He's so chill.
01:09:30You can tell he is such a moon pussy magnet, dude.He literally like a pussy from the moon gets drawn into the earth by his.He's just.just got a vibe. He's very chill. He's very laid back.Yes. God, I just want to smoke weed with them and just be like, okay, yeah.He gets more sex. He's extremely cool. Oh, he's from Minnesota.Is he really? Talk about tall people. He's six, eight. Yeah. And he's 28, so you're allowed to want to kiss out. And he loves milk. And Post Malo was on a podcast. He really likes milk. I was watching too. I think it might have been Theo Vaughn both times actually. But he was, uh, he seems so, I get it now. I get why everyone works with them.Me too. He's so sweet. I know, T. T, T, T,
01:10:09Swift also made that remark.She's like, I took me forever to get him to stop saying, ma'am.And then she was like, do you want to say something?He's like, yes, ma'am.Which is so funny.He's so cute.But he genuinely seems like such a down-to-earth, extremely polite, extremely easyto hang out with guy.
01:10:26And those are the people who end up getting the work, you know, because they're like,oh, I want this guy in the studio with me, you know?And he did a bunch of stuff with, she did a song with Shania Twain.And apparently they had like an amazing time together in the studio.Post Malone and Shania Twain.I'd watch that tape.I'd watch that tape.I don't even mean a sex tape.
01:10:46I just meet a tape of them collaborating together.Like that would be...Yeah, that's what I'm in too.Yeah, while getting railed.Yeah.If they're singing, maybe they're making each other sing.Oh, fucking you in the studio while we sing this song.Yeah.
01:11:02Railed.Yeah.Bye posty.So anyways, those are my blinds, whatever, but whatever.Okay?I can see again.You did a...really good job. I'm glad that you can see again. Welcome back. Holden. I appreciate it. And if
01:11:14MJ, you want to give me a compliment as well, that would be cool. It's a good time for it,like kind of right before we wrap things. Did I not give you any compliments? Well, I don't thinkyou've ever have. Yeah. I think that your friend Taylor Swift gave a nice acceptance speech to theAMA. That's like a compliment to me. That's like a comment to her. Yeah, you can't do, yeah,you can't compliment him through Taylor Swift. Okay. You did great on the blind items today.because now I'm going to keep thinking about botched Brazilian buttlips.Jackie, did that feel a little forced to you?It did, but I feel like you're,
01:11:46I feel like MJ is searching for something.Yeah, I feel like, it's sad.You know what, you're being a bit of a Whitney right now.They are exhausting.I feel drained after I watched like three episodes of a road.I'm like, I feel dreary.I feel like the husbands probably feel.Oh, yeah, those husbands.
01:12:05Except for they don't feel anything.They're all golden retrievers.They're all fucking just like, oh,whatever you want, I put a baby in you, and then I'll have a bunch of pills and fuck a bunch of Tinder ladies.But don't worry, you have already heard us talk at length about this.Thank you guys so much for joining us for page seven this week.I had a blast talking about good daves, talking about bad daves.Where are the medium daves?
01:12:31I ask you.Dave Thomas, that's my Dave.Oh, really?I'd have a Wendy's Burger any day.Yes, that's the square room.I had a lust for then.Yes, absolutely.Oh, don't even get me started.
01:12:41Now I want some fucking Wendy's.Is Wendy's even in LA?I don't even think I've seen a Wendy's in LA.I have no idea.I'm not a Wendy's hound the way you're a Wendy's hound.I'm sorry.There's two things I love and it's eating pussy and eating Wendy's.You know what I mean?
01:12:55We've got to end the episode.Okay. I'm sorry.You can cut that out.No, you don't have to.I say leave it in.I say bump it up.Can we add more volume to it?My name is Jackie Zabrowski.
01:13:07And you can follow me on Instagram with Jack That Worm.And you can come hang out with me and MJbecause we will be talking about at some pointthe Sims movie that is now going into productionover on Twitch.com.We're not going on production on Twitch.combe on Twitch.Dot TV forward slash, oh no, it's Jackie.But we are playing the game, the Sims on Twitch.
01:13:26dot TV forward slash, oh no, it's Jackie.MJ and I, every Wednesday morning,we play The Sims.And time goes by so quickly that we blinkand two hours have gone.So come join us Wednesday morning,Switch. TV forward slash, oh, no, it's Jackie.Hell yeah, dude.
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01:14:08but also Jackie's book club, which is great if you want to see a corn,be horny or a shark.He's a corn man, and he comes buttery.I feel like I don't understand what you don't get about this.Yeah, no, I get it, you know, and I love it.And check it out.Jackie's Book Club and the leftovers over at the $5 layer and ad-free versions of these episodes.You get it all for just five bucks a month.
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01:14:46Oh, man.We gotta have faith.We're all having a hard time.Guess it must be nice.Oh, buddy.So yeah, check that out.Patreon.com forward slash page seven podcast.Yo, I need some conspiracies, all right?
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