Page 7 - Ep. 556: Lean Into The Slime

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

This week on Page 7 we're talkin' 'bout Diddy and JLo havin' people believing in the illuminati as MJ and Holden feel bad for ol' Jenny from the Block, Jackie brings news of North West's rizzling her mom with a couture Skibidi Toilet chain as well as the impending opening of a slime store at her local mall, Ariana Grande needs to provide RECEIPTS for her Elvira snub and her eyerolling non-apology statement, Cynthia Erivo is very upset by a fan edit of the Wicked poster removing her eyes cause the eyes are the windows to the house of the soul, Holden gets spooked by MJs house of haunted balloons and a cats tail, and Andrew Garfield went on 'Chicken Shop Date' and it was adorbz, and in Celebrity Conspiracy Corner: Is Shakira unable to lie because she is a WOODEN DOLL?! The List, Blindz, and SHOUTZ!  Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feel it in your heart. Bailamos! Let the rhythm take you up. Amor meo, bai Lama, Carbado de Guillaio, Nicario, amore meo, malameca, car bar, He goes ham in the end of Bilemos.

I heard it recently. I completely forgot Enrique and Glaciace, you blow my ace away. Welcome to page seven. And you thought, you know, oh, is it going to be spooky? Hell no. We dance. Tonight we dance.

Oh, but not tomorrow. Oh, don't you need to be filled with the passion of dance? And I feel like I'm sad for both you, MJ, and you. Why? Why did we do? Is that a word? We haven't done anything. Maybe you don't have the passion of dance the way that I do.

Look, I love the biolamos. I don't know if you do. I feel like I don't see. see like, you know, hope alive in either one of your eyes right now. Well, more like pilot gross because you're disgusting. Yeah, that is a bigger problem, MJ. Yeah. And also good one, Holden.

Thank you. Real good one, Holden. Welcome to P.7, everybody. We have already been like gooseing and gabin over here about everything that we're about to talk to today. So we're just like, I may as well start recording because we're just talking about what we want to talk about on the episode. You know, one thing I didn't even bring up, which is I do want to.

Oh my God, he didn't even bring up. I didn't even bring it up. I just have to mention this. I was thinking a lot about J-Lo, like, as you do. And I do think that- In a good way or in a bad way. Well, I feel bad way. Oh, you feel bad.

Wait, MJ, you are nodding as if you also feel bad for- There's a lot to feel bad about, but I want to hear what Holden's thinking about. I think worse than anything else that's happened so far, and that includes the divorce, and in light of the canceled tour, the fact that she definitely is, you know, not definitely, but allegedly could very well be some kind of a trafficking person or something because of the P. Diddy stuff. You know what I mean? In light of all of that, I think the worst. Her involvement in the P. Diddy or it has to be. Is that why they got divorced guys? That's the big. That's the new theory. Yes. I know. That is the theory. Well, if you check in with anybody who does even have a cursory following of celebrity gossip these days, I talked to someone recently who was like, I think I'm starting. to believe in the Illuminati.

Like, it's just, we are, we are slip sliding into a level of cover-up and conspiracy. Thanks, Diddy. Yeah, right, thanks to Diddy. Never trust again. If there's one thing that we can really take down, guys, don't trust anyone new in your life. Never open up your heart and never go anywhere with anyone ever again. Yeah. But the thing I think, right?

Is this what we're learning? The thing I think is the worst for her is the fact that in light of her canceled to her, Shakira has recently had to completely restart her tour with all everything because it's sold so well she had to go from arenas to stadiums. Shakira, Shakira. Wait, that's why you feel bad for J-Lo? Yes, because she's watching that happen. I see what you mean. She's also watching it happen all over the place, though.

I feel like this is. J-Lo, you're just not made to go on tour, girl. It's okay. What is the deal with that, too? Shakira really is that much more popular than J-Lah? Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I think it's just that. It's just, you know, it's just... J-Lo... Why do you think J-Lo and Shakira did the Super Bowl halftime show together? You thought J-Lo could do it on her own? Right? And I think that she would be...

Man, would she claw your fucking eyeballs out, Jackie? If she heard you say that. I would love to get into a cat fight with Jailo because... No, you would be... not. So fast. Oh, no, she would put me in the ground, but I also, like, kind of like it. I forgot about this.

I was listening to a parenting podcast. You know how, like, this is going to sound like a hack stand-up bit, but you know how, like, they make the person, like, talk about the podcast host talk about, like, how the product relates to them, and it's, like, very dark, depending on what you're like. I listen to a true crime podcast. It is by a person whose family was, like, a victim of a crime. and she's like, I'm a victim of a crime. So when I go on hikes, I need these shoes.

And it's like so upsetting. So people can know where she's gone based on the treads of her shoes. Yeah, they have backwards souls so that, you know, it looks like you're walking in the other direction. No, it's like, you know, my mental health suffered ever since my sister was murdered. So I need to go on my hikes. It's so upsetting. That is just really where we're at today. I mean, I get it.

You are right. I feel like getting outside and getting outside and getting. moving is like a good thing to do. But then I also listened to a like a parenting neurodiverse children podcast and all of the ads are like, you know, we know how hard it is to be parents of our kids with, you know, increased support needs. And that's why I need my shoes. But then this one was, this one was like, we all know how hard it is to be parenting kids

with increased support needs. And that's why J-Lo's new brand of skincare is doing it for me. And it was a, it was like, we all. look at J-Lo and wonder how her face looks so good. Now we can buy her skincare lines. M.J., is this what you need? Do you need me to send you J-Lo's skin care line so that it can help you parent your neurodiverse children? Because if that's all you need, I got you, boo. Like, I know she's been in that game. I know that's not particularly new to J-Lo, but it was just my first time hearing the ad of like, we all look at J-Lo and wonder, how does she do it at age 50? And now when you're parenting your children,

you can look like J-Lo. And I was like, oh, my God, please. With a T and millions of dollars and a team of people. Oh, yeah. That's the thing. You can also look like J. Yeah, yeah. And a full staff, that's all you need, guys.

It's like celebs, they are just like us. And celebs, their children also like to upset them. This, I will say. You know, I feel like we, I try not to talk about Northwest Kardashian too often because, you know, she's a child and I know that she's on TikTok and whatever, but I usually stray away from this. But this story is so fun.

And her dad, like, makes her new wife essentially have her tits completely out, whatever they leave, as if she's some sort of sex lame. I try not to read the Bianca's and story, any kind of headlines, you know. No, we're talking about the diamond necklace that Northwest gave her mother for her 44th birthday and on the diamond necklace, which Lord knows how much it cost,

but she got engraved skibbitty toilet on it. And if you don't know what skibbity toilet is, I feel like I think you'll have a whole team, a barrage of parents that are like, it's better that you don't know what it is. Because if you say the phrase skibbity toilet in front of a lot of people, I think they'll just punch you in the face.

Yeah. Parents of tweens are triggered right now. Very, very upset. It's perfectly built. It really is. A perfect annoy your parents' cultural phenomenon for them. Yes. On the YouTube channel, da fuck.

Exclamation point, question mark, boom. I know this is the world that awaits us, Holden. We're only a few short years away until our children will be trolling us. This is the thing that, man, I'm going to lean into it and they're going to be like, no, you can't. And I'll be like, I'm more Skivody than you. I'm the Ristler. And, you know, they'll... Out crazy, the crazy.

It worked for Joker, too. I read War and Peace, father. How do you like me now? I'm like, not war in peace. Stop reading such big books. Ah! You know, that's how you do it. No, you will thrive.

You'll thrive. You'll be on there with Winnie like, you know, just subscribing and do it all the YouTube things. Whereas I'm just like, I just turn it on and then I just give my good kids a guilt trip about it. I'm like, okay, you could watch YouTube, fascist channel. You know, I try to, I try to sprinkle it in. Yeah, I honestly was getting upset because there is a mall by us that has, the mall is barely a mall, except for the fact that it has multiple AMCs in it.

But the mall portion of the mall sucks. But don't worry, MJ, they're getting a full slime store at the mall. and I could see like the middle schoolers like so excited that they're putting in a full slime store. What even is that? It's just a storm slime. This is what this is what all my, and it's actually fine. I feel I actually now. You've given into the slime.

I've given into the slime and I've given into YouTube in a way. I still distrust YouTube obviously as a, as an app, as a, I don't trust its algorithm. I don't trust. And I tell the kids, I'm like the reason, I have to, I only let them watch it on the big TV. and I'm like, we have to vet every channel you watch because there's no oversight and I want them to know that

and also I'm like telling them like the show you're, the channel you watch is just a giant advertisement for slime and they're like, but it's a show. I'm like, there's a show trying to sell you slime and therefore it is an advertisement. When he just keeps just,

I woke up today and she was just watching somebody play with toys. I know the toy, and unboxing. Don't let her watch it. I don't let her watch it. I don't let her watch that stuff. I know.

Why, but then she knows what she's going to ask for for Christmas. It actually does. It does help, honestly. But, yeah. But also, a lot of those unboxing things are, they're like, we did. I was like, okay, you want this trendy thing? I'll get it for you. And then they were like, okay, now what?

It's like, you know, it's like a collectible thing and it's not actually that exciting to play with. Also, also, though, this slime store looks fucking cool as hell, dude. I can't wait to go to the slime store. The slime is just going to live it up. into the slime now because it is, and also my kids are very smart and they've learned how to talk about it in ways that are meaningful to us. So our kids are now like, slime is actually a really great anxiety tool because it really brings in. So they're like bringing in. That's scarier than

anything else, actually. I think like monsters you're creating. But you know what? They're right because I, we've been, I posted that I took my kids to the slime museum and one of Gideon's co-workers. There's a museum. There's a, there's a, well, they call it a museum. It's a store. But it's all a store. Everything's a store. The shows are a store. The museums are a store. But one of Gideon's coworkers was like,

I watch 30 minutes of slime ASMR videos a day. It helps my anxiety. So it is, it is a thing. But also, come on. We were in the era, like the peak slime era at one point. I know. You're right. I had Gack.

I definitely had Gack. I liked anything that would like stick to the walls that my parents really, really hated. Nickelodeon had its height. Yeah, those sticky hands that would just get covered in like lint. Loved it. Yeah, it would just immediately become disgusting.

And, you know, while we're over here leaning into the slime, you may have heard the last couple of weeks, three weeks or so, I had been leaning into the slime. And yeah, I'm talking about Ariana Grande. Dude, something wicked. This way comes, I mean, like,

wicked PR people are losing their fucking minds right now. They are, man. It is everywhere. Everybody's talking about Wicked. And if you're not talking about Wicked, get your head out of the sand, everybody. And I know I am still very, very sad that every time I watch the trailer, I tear up.

And I won't stop myself from emoting and you can't make me. But we can ask Ariana Grande for a couple of receipts. And that is about an interaction she had with none other than Cassandra Peterson, who plays the icon. horror icon. Yeah, I said icon twice. Elvira. Now, Elvira was asked who, like, who she had her worst celebrity encounter with. And she said very easily that it was Ariana Grande. This is such a bitchy question, by the way. I love the way this question keeps trapping people. Oh, yeah. When I'm listening to a podcast and they get into stuff like this and they do name names,

which is so rare, I just, I perk up. I just go. Like, okay, you're ready for it? You're ready to start a feud? Let's start a feud. Or like when people talk about like the worst guests ever on or the worst hosts ever on SNL. It's like my favorite topic. Like Jojo Siwa and her,

and her feud with Candace Cameron Beret is similar question. Who is the worst celebrity encounter you've had. At least we know with Candace Cameron Bray, we know who's in the wrong in that situation. Very, yes, a very worthy target. And yes, for the last two weeks on page seven, we did Jackie and I, maybe not Holden, but Jackie and I did say we had been charmed by Ariana, specifically the Vanity Fair Lie detector thing that she did and also her on SNL. She was very funny. But this is forever my issue when it comes to I'm a bitch that loves bitches. I love when

bitches are known bitches and they do bitchy things. Lean into the slime. This kind of bitchy thing makes me frown. However, we then do get the receipts from Ariana Grande about the situation, which does flesh it out a little bit more. So essentially, Elvira was saying, Ariana Grande came to her show. She brought 20 guests, like she wanted 20, 21 tickets. And Elvira says, okay, we'll give you the tickets. She comes backstage with all like 20, 21 members of her friends and family. And Elvira takes individual pictures.

She's signing autographs with all of them. She says, I take a picture with every single one of them. autographs. Then I say to her, can we take a photo together? She goes, nah, I don't really do that. And that pissed Elvira the fuck off because she had just given a lot. And also remember, Elvira, while she is the biggest of the horror icons that we have currently, she's still an indie horror icon. And the fact that she gave out all of those tickets, you got to think, it's not that she just wanted the picture. It's great PR. Right. This is a, something that will help her shows and just help a lot.

Right. But Ariana Grande comes back and she does publicly apologize, even though I will, I roll, roll, roll, roll, roll my eyes at the public. This is such a non-apology. And, you know, we can get into like it, but you have to admit at least that it's just not really an apology. It's an annoying, bitchy apology. But what, and I will say, Holden, not to like,

uncover your good side. I know I'd like to keep it hidden. But Holden was the one that brought up the fact that this is most likely now that the receipts are coming out during the time that there was like, was it 2017 with the Manchester? It's being heavily speculated. Yeah. So they're trying to figure out whether it was like, if it was just before, which would

give her Zippo, I feel like, ground to stand on. Huge trauma of like that it was something. Or right after the massive trauma of the. terrorist attack at one of her concerts that were people died and it was like a huge thing and it is part of her like we should actually feel bad for Ariana kind of crusade

whenever you try to like hate her and call her your mortal enemy and everyone's just like that she has okay but I forget she has like just objectively had several intensely traumatic things happen sure I mean there's no reason why that should lead her to stealing the name of one person's

fans and then just call them her fans. I thought you were going to say stealing the father of a baby, but also that. Oh, sure. Yeah, I guess. But more so than that, the part where she clearly stole my name for my fans. Also, I will say the beginning part of the apology is fine. But then she was going to say, shall I do a dramatic reading of the apology? Sure. Yeah. I mean, you got to twang that bitch on the end, though. In every conflict, there's at least one bitch. A few. Huge bitch, a silly bitch. A little baby bitch, a raggedy bitch. But sometimes it's unclear who the bitch is. I'm Kara Klank. And I'm Jackie Zabrowski.

And on our new Colin Advice podcast, we're going to help you figure out who's the bitch. We want to hear your problems, dilemmas, and quandaries. No topic is off limits. Does your coworker flirt with the boss to get ahead? Is your bestie having her destination wedding on a holiday weekend? Is your therapist being clingy? Does your friend keep bringing her toddler to adult parties?

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I'm so disheartened to see this. This is Ariana responding to Elvira. I actually don't even remember getting the chance to meet you because I had an anxiety attack and to my memory left before the rest of my. family. This was around seven years ago at the time I was not really great with being in public crowds or loud spaces, which does seem like holding like maybe a nod to what you were saying about the threat. But if I'm misremembering this moment, I sincerely apologize for offending you. So thank you for being nice to my mom. She told me how lovely you were. Blah, blah, blah. In parentheses, no, in parentheses, she might have different feelings about that now, but I'll talk to her.

Clearly we all have our days. It sounds like a bitch you work, you know. Yeah. It's It sounds like a fucking bitchy work email. It's so passive-aggressive. And you know what? The more I think about it, okay, fine. You didn't want to go to the show because of loud noises and crowded spaces.

But you were backstage. It wasn't a very crowded space. I mean, backstage just can get kind of crowded, but it was a private space that you got to get with 20 members of your family. And I think the most damning thing is like, you have millions of dollars. Why do you need Elvira to give you free tickets to this fucking show?

That just alone sucks. Like, I don't care. your anxiety issues and stuff inside. Or like, get the tickets for them and don't go. If you're just going to. But also, we have a bunch of friends that like do small shows, one person shows, all different kinds of things. And like, we always buy the tickets to go to our friend shows.

Yeah. It's like there were all the years in our 20s when like, oh, you'd get somebody in for free or oh, we're going to check out this show together. You know, it's like, and you get people in. But now it's like, it's more about the support. And I want to get the ticket so that. I can support my friends and their shows. And I know that that's not necessarily what Ariana Grande is thinking,

which I just love Elvira so much. And she's so precious to me that I'm just like, yeah, this was, it's the worst person. It might be one of the worst person people. Like, it's like her, like a dolly part. Yeah. To say you were their worst celebrity encounter. And I just cannot believe that it was just like,

she just came off like a bitch because she was having an anxiety attack. Which also, I will say as someone that has anxiety attacks, I understand when you're in a public space and you're trying to pretend like you're not having an anxiety attack. Totally. Totally. That's the thing. I've never been a celebrity and I've never been in a place where it's like if I'm having

an anxiety attack, I will say, hey, I'm having an anxiety attack. I'm going to go to the restroom and I'm going to excuse myself for a moment. Send an email the next day to Alvira or her team or whatever. It's got to be scary. for a celebrity to say those. Sure. I just don't buy it. I just don't buy it.

And I kind of feel like it's low-key shade being like, I don't even like remember meeting you. There's several. This could have been an edited down apology. There's, I don't even remember this. I feel like you have to, I don't know, it's hard to have an authentic apology while doing both. I don't remember this happening and doing,

I'm sorry if I offended you, which is the classic non-apology apology. I was totally pointed out. Classic bitch apology. And actually, actually I was having the anxiety. You know what I mean? It's just like, actually you should feel bad.

Yeah, right. So you're the bitch. Which I'm just like, I don't fucking buy that. It's tough. But I have to acknowledge, it's this like monkey on my back where it's like, I have to acknowledge the fact that she did go through.

Yeah. The Jackie monkey. What are you going to do about it? The Jackie monkey on my back. That I have to acknowledge that she. Give me a banana. Give me a banana. Give me a banana.

I had this crazy thing. happen at her live show. Here's your banana. Thank you. I don't know. I do love bananas, though, by the way, just in case anybody was curious. I'm trying to attack Ariana. I know your attack. He actually tried to defend Arriana. Yeah. But I'm also annoyingly having to defend her at the same time because I don't want, you know what I mean, with emails. Yeah. And it is. But I, that's why I'm not saying that I am completely off the Ariana train. I'm just saying I'm looking at the next stop and it is looking really juicy.

I just think she's a bit. You know what, but people love it. I think you just, if you love her, you love her because she's a bitch. Yes. And I get that. I love Mariah Carey. And many, many people hate Mariah Carey because she's such a bitch.

I get it. I think we love J-Lo because she's a bitch. I think Jay-Lo is a bitch. I love her because she's a great bitch. You are trying to love her because she's like such a sweet. She's just everything. Then, no, you're so out of your mind. Like, no, she clearly, it's just enough indicators.

Orionators. I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean, where is, where was she stop? I'm just a small-time podcaster. I've got nothing. He's just a small-time guy. I have absolutely nothing. I know.

That movie, that song was written about you. Ariana looking like the sane one compared to her co-star with the other story of the week, which is the Wicked poster. I, man, what a crazy. This wicked poster. What a crazy week of bad press for them. It's insane. Except is it bad press or is everybody talking about Wicked? And it is still a month out before the premiere.

This is exactly what the PR machine wants, but I don't know if they expected it to come from this angle. So Cynthia Revo slams fan edit of Wicked Poster. Now, this has been kind of everywhere. I'm sure you guys have heard about this because they really were pushing this to make it a huge thing. And I had to read into it in multiple sources, because I'm like, am I missing something?

That Cynthia Arriva was so upset about this fan-made poster. And let me just break it down for those of you guys who don't know about what happened. So essentially, in the Wicked Movie poster, Cynthia Arrivo, you can see both of her eyes and she's looking down the barrel of the camera. And that's what she wanted. She wanted her eyes, or whoever created the idea for the poster, wanted her eyes in focus. But for those of you that are familiar with the playbill, on the playbill, Elphabas eyes are covered, and she has this little like red-mouthed smirk. Closed-mouth smirk.

Closed-mouth smirk. So the fan edit made the movie poster look like the playbill from the musical. And Cynthia Revo posted, this is the wildest, most offensive thing. I have seen, equal to that awful AI of us fighting, equal to people posing the question, is your pussy green? None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me.

It degrades us. The original poster is an illustration. This is also where I got really lost. I am a real life human being who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer. Because without words, we communicate with our eyes. Our poster is a mage.

Theater not inimitation. This is theater and hide my eyes is to erase me and that is deeply hurtful. Jackie, before we get how dumb this is, can you explain to me

like I haven't seen Wicked is Wicked like important in a in any kind of way? When you outside of being a good? I think I have a question. You know what the question ask. No, I think that

I do think that this is, I understand, Is there, like, significant, is it like... Can you unholdenize this, please? Okay, let me try to translate this. Let me try to translate this. Wicked seems to be really important to a lot of people in a way that might seem outsized for what it is,

which is a musical about the Wicked Witch of the West. So could you explain? Is there some socio, does it make some statement or something? Yeah, of course, doesn't the Wizard of Oz? It is just, yes, it's all about acceptance. and it's about like people being different and it's all about like the different worlds coming together and otherness and being accepted

but then also like struggling with being accepted but then like do I even want to be accepted in the first place? And it's also about the love of I've ever seen Frozen don't care about Frozen. Wow. Wow. Also Frozen I believe came after Wicked and the Wizard of Oz.

I'm pretty sure Frozen was about like originally it was about like economy and shit. It's like a giant like boring metaphor for the government. And also pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. It's about the culture machine. It's about realizing who's operating the powers. And what I am continuing on saying is that Wicked did for me, a lot of what

hairspray did for me, which made me a freak of a child feel like someone will someday love me. And that it was possible for me. That's so late. And I love a, yeah, yeah. And you know what, surprise, I'm in the happiest marriage. Very surprising. The three of us is how you're saying, oh, okay, now we're going to have the happiest marriage.

We're having a happiest marriage off. I want to see receipts. We're talking receipts. I want to see how happy your marriages are. We are recreating the meme of those bros arguing about the Wicked Wist and Witch of the Eats. She came down on the bubble, bro. I just, can I just say, can I just say, I asked a question? I was not loaded in any kind of way.

It was just a genuine question of like. It was a shitty, titty question. It does change a little bit like, because if it is at the end of the day like Wonka, it's just like a fun musical. No, it is just also just a genuinely good story. Right. But it does, it is like important in a sort of.

Yeah. Like it really made, like it did make, like I loved, I was always so sad because I tried to sing Elphaba songs. I wanted to go. to districts with an Elphaba song and I just can't surprise I can't sing like Elfaba. She's, I mean, I, Dina

Manzel has an amazing voice. What's her song? A, B, C, D, E, FD. That's a dumb name is all. Elphaba? Like alphabet. Yeah, I get it. It was a stretch, but I guess

I get it. This is a dumb name. Like a good thing, a good meaningful thing I'm a stupid name in it. That's all I'm saying. Okay, let's get back to what's happening. Oh, MJ, you're trying to water down Holden for me more? Yeah, MJ, don't fucking mediate this, okay?

Look, first it's the Taylor Book, and then we had to do Jackin separately because of the Taylor Book. Everybody knows that everybody knows that had nothing to do with the fact that my husband has COVID. It is the fact that we got into a fight about the Taylor Book, and now Holden and I are kind of in a divorceo period. Yeah, a little bit. DeVoreau.

And this wicked thing, just put the nail in the coffin. It's not. And you're going to have to go watch it with me. And we are going to get drunk. And I am going to sing the entire time. So, all right. But let's get, let's get back to Cynthia Riva. So her being, like, treating this like it's so important or whatever is, even if it's

silly, it's like, has a little bit of ground to stand on in terms of like, it's not just like the silliest, dumbest kind of fluffy musical kind of thing. But I think that what she's saying is I am important, right? And because I think it's not about the musical. And she is. Of course. And I'm not, I don't want to take that away from her. Like I,

I guess this is what it's, is she making it a racial thing? Is she upset? Is it a race issue? That she's being erased. Like other or something. Yeah. That like as her role. It is possible.

Certainly something that we could, like, would not see the perspective of. And I understand. But it's so, but I guess that's a problem. I'm like, it's like she's talking like this great injustice happened that we normally would be able to understand and see and be like, yeah, that does kind of suck. But in this case, it makes no sense because it's just, didn't understand. They just wanted to make it look like the original playbill. It's an homage. It's a fan art. It's a meme. It's an homage to the original playbill cover. And I think that's what's confusing. I have scoured Twitter for perspective, the exact perspective

that I think you're exploring Holden, which is like, is there some, is there like an identity? that we don't understand. The thing about why this is so meaningful to her that we are missing. And please, of course, if we are missing it and you can help us understand, of course, always email us, page 7 podcast at gmail.com. There are many things that we miss

from our own limited perspective, right? Totally. But I think that from her, I think that what's strange about the post is, you know, the original, she says the original poster is an illustration. I'm a real life human being. Right.

And she's kind of, I think she's suggesting, like me as an actor, I'm here. is, and she compares it to, there's an AI, like a joke AI of them, like what happens when you ask if her pussy's green and it's them fighting and like, yeah, AI is completely sinister. Also, can we just say

obviously her pussy is green? She's a green person. She's definitely green. So I've been thinking about this, my penis is green. Do I need to get that checked out? Well, that matches the Sims. It might be that your Sims 4 character. Yeah, I feel like MJ and I,

you're big boy McNeely, B-I-G, B-I-G, I, big boy McNeely, and you are green with very large ears. So maybe, oh my God, seems starting to influence your real life. Also, every time I get a boner, I start singing, defying gravity. Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I would love it if you did.

I feel like your wife would also like it if you did. If you brought it a little bit more wicked into your fucks. And then I start going, masquerade. Hot-to-da-to-do-do-to-do-do-do-do-do. Masquerade. She's like, it's always masquerade. Not any of the other songs from the amazing musical. It's the only good song.

But I will say, too, I think that's my comparison. Is wicked kind of like more like cats or more like a Hamilton or something? You know what I mean? I guess it was trying to what I was getting at. I can't believe those are the two musicals you chose. And she's making this statement, you'd be like, okay, really like what the fuck. But if it's a little more, it has a little more meaning. Or like Starlight Express.

You know, I understand. It's dumb, silly, fun. And I love, that's my favorite shit, like, in terms of musicals. Like, just fun, dumb, but, but yeah. Yeah, but I think that it's more about... It's just a balloon. It's so scary. That was so scary. It is very haunting.

It's a haunting balloon. It's like an it balloon. That was terrifying. Yeah, it has a mind of it. It's like moving not in a way of a balloon. I just, yeah, I feel like a clown is, like the brain of a clown that's going to come through. For sure. No.

It's a balloon for the first day of school. We're not allowed to throw it away. It's, uh, it's a balloon. floats around the house like it goes. Yeah. Once it's like half deflated, it just sort of like, it's like a sad, the only member of the household. You're like, do you need some gruel for breakfast?

I pissed myself. I think that I just think that this, I think that Cynthia Arrivo's grievance is about what the art does to her as the actor, which is, she is the actor. It's fair. I understand it. I don't think it has to do with the musical. Just know I'm making the jerk off motion at that. That's ridiculous.

The musical is, if it was, if she was upset on behalf of the musical, I don't think she would be upset that fan arts were making an homage to the playbill poster. So it just, and again, looking at Twitter, it seems like the overwhelming consensus here is that this is just like actory behavior, like where it's like a little, you're going a little too hard. You're not important. A little too upset. I don't care how much people make you think you're important.

You're just not. And you're, you get to have a fun, cool job. And I feel like, and I hate that it's. Chris Pratt who did this, I wish it was anyone else who said the whole thing about, like, being bitchy on sets and how it's like, oh, I'm so sorry you get to live out your dreams for work every day. It's so crazy. But this kind of...

What was that quote that you said earlier about, like, sometimes someone you don't like and have a good point? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was... The onion headline that is the worst person in the world just made a good point. Yes. Like, the Chris Pratt thing of him just being like, be good to each other. Be nice.

But this is, yeah, that was this, this week, he was like, oh, yeah, he was like, oh, are you having a hard time living your dream about people having bad attitudes on sets or whatever? Especially when you're an actor,

like you're the talent. You're literally like, I know it sucks that they make you get there at five in the morning and make you wait fucking seven hours before you can start doing your job. That, sure. But at the end of the day,

you're not lugging equipment around. You're not fucking, you know, you're not like working in a fucking factory. You're just, you're hanging out on us. Bring a switch, bring a laptop, bring a fucking book, and get over it. You know what he mean? And then you did the part where you did,

but yeah, the part where Cynthia's like, like, I play pretend for a living and everyone must respond it. Yeah. And understand what it's like also. Because handed hand to, I just saw I had done the Denzel Washington was asked like, how did he get into character for Gladiator 2? And his response was,

I put on the costume and I played make believe. Yeah. And that's very like Mamet, right? That's very like David Mamet. That's why I always loved that acting text he put out. We were in college. It was called true and false. And he literally like, from a playwright's perspective,

he was like, it was for a book on acting. And it was literally just like, stop with this method stuff. Just stand up and say the fucking lines. That's all you have to do. Just stand up and say the goddamn line. That was like the whole book. And it was refreshing because it's just like, Oh my God, then a cat's tail came into the cute.

Holden. Are you just like in a spooky brain space right now, Holden? A creepy cat tail just square. Yeah, MJ has cats. I'm surrounded by cats. MJ has a balloon. MJ just, I can't believe MJ just push the balloon out of frame. Get out of here.

That's going to cause some fucking repercussions. Spooky scary, Holden. Don't worry, Holden. Good, God. But anyways, I just feel like this is actually gone rampant outside of actors because of social media and stuff like that. Everybody stop taking yourself so goddamn seriously. Just stop.

I think that I'm glad that you brought up the identity stuff because I'm sure that that is, it's certainly like possible that that's informing Sidthia Arivo's perspective. But also I feel like a lot, I see a lot of people pointing out in response to this response. it actually isn't about you. It's about the character. People are doing this as an homage because they care so much about the story of Wicked,

about the characters, the iconography, the images, especially for a musical. And a beloved musical. You are in a musical with a beloved, massive cult following. People have feelings about the story. People have feelings about the characters. And so, yes, of course, you as a person, you deserve to be seen and you deserve to be valued

and you shouldn't be a race. But, like, you are here tapping, into something bigger than you. It's actually not about you only. It is also about this story, this text, and that is so beloved. People care about the text. They see

the movie poster. They're like, actually, this makes me think of the Playbill and what if it looked like this? And so to have it be so much about the individual identity of an actor as opposed to I'm lucky enough to tap into this big canon of Wiccan. And huge fan days, which has got

to be very scary, though. The Chris Pratt thing I'm torn on because I do, I don't think that we should expect actors to just be like grateful for what they get, right? Because like that's how workplace abuses happen and stuff like that. And that's how that's how, you know, different actors are valued different. Like, of course there are injustices that that come to you, even if you are like a very famous person. But I think this particular example is an example where it's like you're making something about you. You're acting as if the fans are trying to erase who you are. This is fans. doing something about the text, you are part of something bigger here.

And that's what's cool about musicals and theater and making art in general is it's actually not just about you. It's about the bigger thing that we all get to care about, you know? Right. And that's why sometimes, you know, the celebrities, they open themselves up to these experiences that the internet is screaming for like Andrew Garfield did on the chicken shop date. Yes, we can't miss it. We cannot run out of time for this.

not talk about Andrew Garfield on the chicken shop date and how absolutely adorable it was. And for those of you that are unaware of chicken shop date, Amelia does this podcast where it's essentially like a, man, weird. This is the second time the word simulacra came up. And Jeff was just explaining to me what a simulacra is. But this is where she subjects celebrity guests to a simulacra of awkward first date conversation and well-performed chiding. Now, here's the thing. This has been years coming because Andrew Garfield and Amelia have had this like cheeky rapport on the red carpet. Oh, my God.

Did you watch all the red carpet clips that resurfaced after this day? Oh, man. And they have such a connection. Oh, my God. They love each other. They love each other and watching the like the clips of this show. I'm just like, oh my God. Like I am.

And then the Andrew Garfield clip that went viral last week of him talking about the grief of his late mother when he was talking to Elmo on Sesame Street about loving someone and missing someone keeping them with you all the time. And I was just like, have I been sleeping on Andrew Garfield? Andrew Garfield had a real good week. He was trending because he was talking to Elmo about grief. And that was great. And we were just talking about him last week with Florence Pugh. And we were like, that's hot. That's quite hot. But then, oh my God, if you think you want him to kiss Florence Pugh, you have to watch this. I was, I had already watched like the entire, it was coming out and like, I was just watching the clips on Twitter and stuff. And then I'd watch all of them. And then I heard Gideon, like, we were at a hotel room. And I heard him like open it up and start watching. I was like, have you watched it? all of it yet. But it's like, it is, oh my God, it's so fun. Like I actually, if you need to lift your spirits in this difficult time, like, to just watch two people who clearly adore each other flirt, it reminded me of like the feel, like, I haven't had that feeling since high school when you're like, I just can't wait to flirt with this person. And he's like trying to flirt with her. And she's like, kind of like giving him a hard time. And at one point he literally closed. It's

flirting. It's flirting, Amelia. It's called flirting. He's like trying so, oh, it's just, it is like, it is somehow, it's not even sexy. It's just like endearing. It is. But it's so endearing. It is. It's like, it's wholesome. It's beautiful.

It's just so cool to see such honest, amazing connection. And I feel like it's so amazing for people to see that it's still, you can still feel it. Yes. Like it doesn't matter what. Exactly. Like you said, like, oh, you haven't felt it since. high school, it's like, you can be any age and feel it. He's 41.

And he's just like, and he can just the way he's talking to her. Recently broken up or at least I guess word on the streets, maybe it's been longer than people found out of. But he's a very private person. And he says that he's a very private person. And he says he's, oh my God. But yeah, he just, they're both just like

the smoldering, smiling that they are doing at each other. And like, the way that he's like, if this, he's like, I know that this is like called chicken shop date and there's all these cameras here. like I kind of think that maybe you and I could have like really gone on a date. And it's like it, I've never been so invested in anything at all my life. I would watch an hour of this. Honestly, I would highly recommend anyone that's like, oh, you want to seduce your partner when they get home from work. Watch this YouTube episode. Yes. Just to get you into the like

magic feeling of two people flirting with each other. And it really is, I, dude, I could use it as foreplay. I'm just like watching it and huge smile on my face. I'm so happy and I don't know if, you know, obviously, if anything's actually going to come from it. But like you said, MJ, all of the other clips are now resurfacing. So I highly recommend anybody check them out because it's not even like, oh, we should just play a clip of it. You have to see how they look at yeah, you really have to see. And like, right, and then all of these, yeah, all the red carpet interactions where they've had before where they like run into each other on the red carpet. They're clearly like really excited to see each other. And they just have this,

they have this rapport. And I think maybe what was so striking about it, I was trying to figure out like, why is this so powerful? And also like that night, I think it was Saturday night. It was like everyone on Twitter. It was the only thing anyone was tweeting about. And like, I think it's because two things. One is that you like people talk so much about how hard it is to meet people how depressing, like, dating apps are, how people don't, like, approach each other. You don't, like, go to the bar and expect to, like, pick people up that way. And, like, people are so, I don't know if it's, if it's just phones or whatever it might be, that it's just, like, so hard to connect with people that way.

And then I think also for me, because I went to my high school reunion two weeks ago, and, like, we were just talking about high school and stuff. And I was, like, I was thinking about, like, when I was, I didn't date anyone in high school. But there was, like, I would be excited for APUS history because there was this kid. I knew I was never going to, like, get with him. He was a higher status than you. Do you see him at the reunion? No, no, he wasn't there.

But, like, he was just like, I loved to flirt with him. And I think he enjoyed it. And, like, he enjoyed flirting with it. And it was just fun. Like, I just, it was like, we just looked forward to, like, the art of, like, practicing flirting with each other was so innocent, you know? Yes. And I don't even care of anything.

And so new. And, like, such a crazy world that you didn't know a lot about. Exactly. And it was, and so I think there's something that feels. so young and pure and also just in this time where it's just people don't really always connect this way to see two people sitting across the table from each other. There's no phones in sight. They're just looking at each other's eyes, making each other laugh, like teasing each other in this like deeply youthful flirtatious way that like truly makes me feel alive. It's like

it is such a wonderful thing to witness. I love it. It really is. Well, let's witness something a little less enjoyable. That's right, this week's Celebrity Conspiracy. Hey me with the share. Do you believe it? Is Shakira unable to lie because she is a wooden doll? Oh. So wait, but the hips and the shaking, that's wooden.

Why don't we get into it? All right. This one comes in from Pixie. Let's go. Shakira claims that her hips don't lie. But could the truth be that her hips in fact can't lie the balloon? It's back. Oh, scared of the balloon.

There's just a shadow of the balloon behind it. Yeah, now he's scared of it. I'm gonna move the balloon. Okay, move the balloon. Go over there. The balloon. I don't know, MJ. Don't put it in front of the camera.

You can see the shadow. Mylar balloon trying to get away from me. Hips don't lie. But could the truth be that her hips, in fact, can't lie? Dot the lady protest too much. Uh-huh. Is it possible that Shakira was actually born a wooden doll

and that her stringless existence hinges on the truth-telling abilities of her hips. What would be the outcome if her hips fibbed? Would her nose grow? It seems that Shakira's beauty and youth has remained, although it seems she has undergone surprising little surgery compared to the other celebrities of her stature slash age. She's looking like Sephora, but acting like Home Depot.

She did admit to nostril reconstruction in 2015, but her shape seems to have stayed similar to before the procedure. A Home Depot is a bitchy thing. If she's Home Depot, what am I? It's unbelievable. On the other side of things, we have Mother Mariah, who is literally being wheeled out and propped up during performances with an acutely tuned face.

She would be happy to be a wooden woman. Not trying to knock anyone's preferences for their own bodies at all, but maybe Mariah is a big stinky liar. And now the blue fairy is mad at her. Did you write this? It's piracy. I love this. I just starting to fake them.

I just came up with this theory because I can't sleep and I've absolutely zero evidence to back it up. But let's all pretend I saw a TikTok. Anyway, hope Shakira's having fun on the marionette version

of Rum Springer, Rum Springer, and a merry rum springa to all. Very strange way. Very Rum Springer to you and I hope that you find your way. Pixie. Yeah, yeah, that is weird. I'm assuming now, in my brain,

Pixie is on their Rum Springer is using a computer for the first time. That's why they can't sleep because maybe they're addicted to porn and that's completely okay. And we just need to talk about it. But I do feel that maybe Pixie is going on their own journey right now. And I think that's great. And I agree with you, Pixie. I think that like where your brain is at is where I want to be. And I, I believe. Yeah, I'm there with you. All right. Awesome. Well, there you go. I believe. M.J., do you believe? I believe. And I, yeah, sometimes we get, you know, emails are best.

from people that are then followed up the next day by a follow-up message that says, I didn't remember writing this message. I'm not suggesting that was the case here. I'm just wondering. I'm just curious. Do you remember writing this message? I think it was just completely ridiculous. I don't think so.

Because just look at a picture. Do yourself a flavor. Just Google Shakira and just let. God, she looks screwed. Just behold her. It could be any kind of doll. Like, why specifically wooden? Does he make sense?

Panopio. Because of the lies. Yeah, but it can be... She's got no strings to hold her down. We don't know what kind of magic is involved. She could be plastic, you know what I mean? Just because Pinocchio, which is also made up. Maybe she's slime.

Like, maybe she, like, that's where the slime is coming and now it's cloning people with slime. Yeah. She could be a slime lord for all we know. I think it's just, that's the part I hate. There's no reason to just... decide it's a wooden doll other than you're just criminally insane. I love it. You know, everything else stands for this.

You're not criminally insane. No, I say we paint her up. Let's get her a little stand. I want to put her on my shelf and I am loving it. I want to assess Pixie. I would like to assess. Analizing. Analizing. Uh-oh, don't let me near. Don't get close to me because I'll start analizing. That's not just, you know.

For some reason that reminded me of I am rectangular. I have been having I am rectangular trapped in my head, like a little wheel. Nice. Little mousy wheel every, I want to say, eight days. Really? I am rectangular. Just that pops in my end.

Think about what his family went through. Yes, think about what his family did. They didn't get killed. They got away from the terrorists. But they suffered a lot. It's time for the list. Say the song. Say the other song.

Who's on the. list. Me. Take a got to have that list. I feel like we were talking about this not that long ago, and I got a little bit of answers on it. Why 17 biopics got slammed by the very people. They're about a juicy rundown. So, of course, up top, this is, I think a lot of this is coming from.

Donald Trump is very upset about The Apprentice. He called it, quote, a fake and classless movie. And apparently Trump was really upset. with how he was portrayed in The Apprentice. But apparently, Mark Zuckerberg, speaking of Andrew Garfield, was also upset with how he was portrayed in the social network. I know that Andrew Garfield didn't play Zuckerberg, but he was in the movie. Zuckerberg might not be the most divisive tech CEO these days,

but the social network's release provided acute insight into the moguls empire. The whole framing of the movie is I'm with this girl who doesn't exist in real life, who dumps me, which has happened in real life a lot. Yeah, that's... And basically, the frame of the movie. is that the whole reason for making Facebook is because I wanted to get girls or wanted to get into clubs. He added, they, the film's creators, just can't wrap their head around the idea that someone might build something because they like building things. Yeah, they like raiding

women because that's what you did. When you first built it, you fucking weird. That's the thing. I'm not saying that we are agreeing with the people on what they are saying about the biopics that were made about them, but because we know Mark Zuckerberg is a piece of garland. So I'm kind of happy that he wasn't happy with what happened in the social network. But this found it hurtful. Wea, wah, wah, wah. And I'm hearing a lot of cries coming from the Gucci family because, of course, 2021's House of Gucci was a huge flop.

Now, I don't know, I don't agree with this first sentence, BuzzFeed. Lady Gaga and Adam Driver delivered stellar performances in the 2021 film. I don't know if that's true. But apparently the Gucci family said the production. of the film did not bother to consult the airs before describing Aldo Gucci, president of the company for 30 years, and the members of the Gucci family as thugs, ignorant and insensitive to the world around them, attributing to the protagonist events, a tone and an ad to that never belonged to them. This is extremely painful from a human point of view, and an insult to the legacy on which the brand is built today. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a really bad movie. but I think that they should be happy that it was because like if it wasn't so bad we would never ever ever think about House of Gucci ever again yeah it's it's really uh but also yeah I think they got away with a little something there yeah because it's it was like

a fun it's kind of like joker fall idea it's it's like a fun talk of the town for the moment it came out and then who has mentioned that fucking movie since you know what I mean it's not Just you too. Yeah, we say Elevantini in the jungalini. We have created a bastardized version of a quote from the movie house of Gucci that we do say at each other. I mean, people only talk about like how weird and bad the transitions in that movie are, how weird and bad the performances. So no one's sitting around being like, wow, the Gucci family, huh, based on that movie? Yeah, it's just, it's like not as much of a thing.

Yikes. Now, I didn't even hear about this movie. and I guess it was for the best, the movie Nina, where Nina Simone was played by Zoe Saldana. Now, apparently, the estate of Nina Simone did not approve of Nina, and they took great offense at the casting of Zoe Saldana, who they didn't believe resembled Simone.

In fact, they made it abundantly clear online. Quote, please take Nina's name out of your mouth for the rest of your life. Ouch. Hopefully people begin to understand this is painful, gut-wrenching, heartbreaking, nauseating, soul-crushing. It shall pass. But for now, dot, dot, dot.

They added in a follow-up tweet. Sal Donna later admitted that she regretted taking on. Oh, my God. Can you imagine having Nina Simone's estate say that about you and a movie you were in? That would be devastating. It must be not a good movie. I mean, no one's talked about it at all. I've never heard of it.

And I feel like it's one of those things that hopefully at this point, celebrities are starting to be like, have you talked to the family? Yeah. Are we, is everything on the up and up? Or is it the opposite where it's like, oh, but it'll drum up a bunch of PR, so maybe it will help the movie in the long run if there is upset with like said an estate or something like that. I don't know if a celebrity would go into it thinking that, but I do wonder if a PR person

would go into it thinking that. Right. Now, what's love got to do with it? Ike Turner will have something to do with it, apparently. Because the movie What's Love Got to Do With it, which of course about Tina Turner. However, Ike Turner said, I'm real angry about it, which also, shut the fuck up, Ike. But I said, I didn't go see it. And I didn't read her book either.

But from what I hear, they're both full of lies. I guess they needed some drama. They needed to make somebody into the bad guy. And this time it was not. The Bad Guy. King Notoriously the bad guy. Man, I can did admit he only punched her once.

And yeah, he would dish out little slaps. But like, guys, that's maybe the bad guy. Turner. Right of the bad. Everybody wants a bad guy. I just imagine.

Could you imagine watching this? You're such a horrible, horrific piece of shit. Right. And then you have the audacity to say this in an interview with the LA Times. Well, his estate is putting out a biopic.

It's titled Just Little Slaps. Just, yeah. Guys, I quote, or Colin, he only punched her once. Only punched once. And all the other movies, she's like, thank you for the tiny slap. It taught me a lesson just now about how to treat you. Can you imagine saying that, feeling that?

Into a microphone. Just a little slap. I just insane. Now, this one doesn't make me as upset. And I'm kind of fine with it because apparently Sarah, Palin really didn't like how she was portrayed in the 2012 movie Game Change. And the only thing I remember about Game Change was that I didn't want Julianne Moore to play Sarah Palin because I think Julian Moore is way too hot to play a little Gremlin person like Sarah Palin. But, you know,

Sarah Palin very upset about it. She went on Fox News and she said, I'm really not concerned about an HBO movie based on a false narrative where there are so many other things to be concerned about. I'm sorry that millions of people are going to waste their time. I'm sure they have more productive things to do. It's another movie that has been... Fault completely memory hold. I had no recollection of this movie whatsoever. I only remember because of Julianne Moore being in it. And I was really obsessed with Julianne Moore for quite some time. Now, this we definitely talked about on a page seven episode, Pam and Tommy. We know that Pamela Anderson was very upset. She still believes that she has owed a public apology for it being created in the first place,

and I agree with her. Now, I will say, we've heard a lot about the blindside, and I've never looked into the issues about the blind side, but the only thing I know about this movie is that former NFL star Michael O'Hare's issues with the blindside was he was very vocal about it. He said, I felt like the blindside portrayed me as dumb, instead of as a kid who had never got consistent academic instruction and ended up thriving once he got it. The movie took away the hard work and dedication I had from a child.

First one in the locker room, last one out. I think the biggest for me is being portrayed is not being able to read or write. Second grade, I was doing plays in front of the school. When you go to a locker room and your teammates don't think you can learn a playbook, that's heavy. Yeah, I've heard a lot about how badly this movie handled this particular. also in like the most classic holiday would way of being like let's take this story and completely remove the agency of the person that it's about and make it some little inspiration pornie and not have any care about whether we're actually doing justice to the story itself.

But that's it. I haven't seen the blind side. But yeah, that exactly what, that quote from him you just read are the issues that I've heard about. I'm more of a green book guy. Yeah, you're more of a green book guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The family loves that one too. Real happy with myershal on that one.

Now, this one, it made me sad, even though apparently it wasn't not, it was neither Joan Crawford or Betty Davis's estate, but this is from the show, Feud. And from 2017. Now, apparently, Olivia de Havilland, she said the show depicting Joan Crawford and Betty Davis's rivalry painted her in an unflattering light. She did the creators of feud, use my identity without my consent and put false words in my mouth, including having me publicly calling my sister, Joan Fontaine, a bitch. The show was designed to make it look as if I set these things and acted this way. I feel strongly about it because when one person's rights can be trampled on this way, the rights of others who are more vulnerable can be abused as well.

And it's got to be very scary, especially when you're dealing with not only you, but family members as well. And like, like she said, putting words into your mouth and about your beliefs and then having people just think that's how you believe, it's got to be very scary. And of course, on this list, the apprentice, Donald Trump, I believe played by Sebastian Stan and fake, classless movie. Do they even have the right to use that name without approval? You know, Trump, just get fucked, bro. But that's my list for you guys. All right.

There you have it. And that makes sense because it's getting all foggy and my peepers. I think they're getting sleepers. I think I'm going. Cataracts. Big me up. Blind. It's.

Oh, we can't see them. We're talking TV. Oh, sorry. All right. Here we go. Up next. Up first. Up right here.

Blind item for you. Fine. I'm fine. I don't need help. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Are your people? effecting your lips?

I got a bit of the jeepers, creepers in my... A damn upstairs, pussy, is it green holding to? Is my penis not green as I stare upon... I just want to... I have to throw it. I think the part also we have to acknowledge was the hyperbole of this is the wildest, most offensive thing I've seen.

Yeah. It's the craziest over-exaggeration. I think that would immediately damped her. Yeah. Oh, is that insane. And in the barrel of the camera thing. All right. As much as the former actor slash current rapper might want it, the A-list, everything in

her mind celebrity wants no part of him or the scandals that are headed his way. She's going through hard times. We feel bad. He's got one name and is creepy and we don't feel bad, even though he has been raked through the coals not too long ago this year. One word? One name? Former actor, current rapper.

The acting was when he was a kid. Oh, Drake. Yes. Oh, not wheelchair bound, huh? Yeah, wheelchair actor. Because it's like, it just gives it away. It was originally that. And I just am like, well, then it's just,

they always refer to him as the wheelchair-bound actor. They don't even call him a rapper. They don't even call him a rapper. Like, I think it's a running joke for the blind item website. And then the other person, she's been going through a lot these days. J-Lo. Yes. Article linked has headline. Drake reached out to Jennifer Lopez as soon as she filed divorce papers from Ben Affleck. And his source said he was very sweet and told her what a fool bin is for letting her get away. And then he quickly let her know he's ready and willing to step in and satisfy her. No. No. You know what? Ben Affleck may have an inner darkness that no one else can fix, but at least he is a smart and thoughtful person. Drake has an inner darkness that no one else can fix. And he's a peddick.

So stay away. And this just tracks so well for how skeezy he is. Like he love, I think he really gets off on banging like ladies that, you know, like the Lil Wayne thing. And like, I think he gets off on like taking someone's girl and stuff. I think that's part of one of my things. I truly cannot stand everything I hear about Drake. And I, and I, I know, I, we do feel bad for Jennifer Lopez.

But again, I will go, I feel like I will go to bat for Ben Affleck's character. He is not a bad person. And in fact, there's many instances of him seeming like a pretty good person. I just love that now he's hanging out with Jennifer Garner all the time. That's good. I know. I know.

This foreign-born permanent A-list actor is spending the remaining years of his life and his money seducing as many young men as possible. That's right. He's a Brit. I'll give you that. And he's old. He's old.

He's old Brit. And beloved. And beloved. And beloved. Anthony Hopkins. No, but kind of in that same realm. Because I'm weirdly watching. Patrick Stewart.

No. Ian McKellen. Yes. Sir Ian. Sir, please. M.J. Ian McKellen. An article recently had the headline.

Sir Ian McKellen, 85. Shocks Revelers as he dances the night away at famous gay club after shaking off his horrible stage injury. The club is named Roast. And he's in this really fun picture with these two like topless guys, shirtless guys who are like ripped. and was super young, and he's just having a time of it. He also recently suffered a chipped vertebrae and fractured wrist after falling off the stage

while playing Sir John Falstaff in a production of Shakespeare's Henry the Fourth. And yet, in this picture of him at roast, isn't that great? He looks so happy. He don't look like he is suffering at all. He is thrilled. Yeah, I love it. Oh, yeah, this is a great picture. Oh, I'm so happy for him.

It's a fun one. That's a fun blind. London's beefiest club night. Okay. Oh my God. Have you ever seen? I have never actually looked at a picture of young Ian McKellen. Oh, yeah.

Yes, please. You can get it. Oh, yeah. Well, now we're going to look up young Ian McKell. Look. Well, as you're doing that, here's the final blind. Oh, oh, so your type. Oh, my God.

Your type written in the dictionary. Whoa. With all the scarves. He's got a lot of scarves. Oh, yeah, dude. All right. Wow. When this one-named permanent A-list singer acted in the past,

you were going to have to hit the casting couch to get apart. It's a lady. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's a lady. Madonna. No, but similar is before Madonna, pre-Madana. Pre-Madana. Pre-Madana one-name Cher. Yes, I believe it.

You had to give Cher a little Lingy, of course, you'd let you singy in the movie. Man, I was just seen her. she was just on some red carpet with her young beau and his like five-year-old. And all I could think of was like, Cher, like, do you really want to, like, if you're Cher banging somebody young that has a young kid, you don't like take on any parenting responsibilities, do you? Like, I feel like you just, I was just surprised to see the kid on the red carpet.

And I was like, I would, I feel like if I was shared. Oh, this is a cute picture. It's a cute picture. It's a very cute picture. I'm going to NCP on that. shares problem. She is not dealing with anything with that. She is definitely just doing her thing. She shares my stepmom, I guess. But I don't think she's like getting it getting her hands dirty with the childcare. I'm pretty sure she's just kind of there. Yeah, for sure. Which honestly, best case scenario,

you get to have like a lovely kid in your life, but your share and you're like, I'm not getting up, you know. Oh yeah. Totally. I'll hang out with you. Exactly. I'm not getting up. I'll do the fun stuff. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Those are my blinds. I can see. again. Welcome back, Colden. Good job. Oh, God, yeah. Sorry, now I'm just looking at the pictures of Zendaya dressing. She was, like, wearing, like, a very similar outfit to, like, a Bob Mackey dress that Cher wore, and she wore to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She is, it's ridiculous, man. She just nails the red carpet and on a level that's, like, insane. I mean, Zendaya's got that amazing, um, I'm, I'm for, I'm blanking on his name right now, but she's an amazing stylist. Yeah. That's a huge part of it for sure. She just like nails it every time. Lawroach. Lawroach.

Lawroach. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, but Holden, welcome back to the seeing world. And thank you guys too for hanging out with us today on page seven. And for, you know, here in Holden talk about shares Lingy. And, you know, we got to keep it at the forefront of our brain.

It was light Lingy this week. It was light lingy. You're right. It was light on the lingy. We didn't go out the gate with the lingy this week. But we want to leave. you with the lingue this week because we're going to make sure that the tongues are getting in the holes guys.

Yeah, you got it. Come on. And eat a couple of them out. It's called duolingio. Whoa. Not an app anymore. And thank you guys. My name is Jackie Zabrowski.

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