Page 7 - Episode 318: 2000 and Fun

Episode Date: August 30, 2019

Jackie and Holden are joined by Natalie Jean and they dish about the VMAs, a new KJ Apa movie, and they are 24/7 concerned about Lindsay Lohan.    For 20% off your first purchase, visit http://nativedeodorant.com and use promo code PAGE7 during checkout! Quip starts at just $25 and if you go to http://getquip.com/PAGE7 right now, you can get your first refill pack for FREE.   That’s promo code PAGE7 at http://phlur.com to get your first three PHLUR fragrance samples at 20% off! Go to http://buyraycon.com/PAGE7 to get 15% off your order!   Deuces, Life of Riley, Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Another turning part of fog stuck in the road. Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go. Ask and don't ask you, but a lesson learned at time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope you had the time of your life. Man, Green Day has been in my head, and it makes you want to die? Oh my God. That song pissed me off when I was a team.

Wait, Natalie, you said the song pissed you off? Yes. As a young punker, that song was basically like, that song was like, well, you guys fucked up your whole teenage years. I hope you had a good time because now you got to grow up and get a job. Shut up, Billy. I mean, to be fair, it sucks. It sucks because you have to pay bills and you have to have children. Not me, man.

I'm living in full anarchy life still. I'm never paying bills. Welcome to page seven. My name is Jackie. Jackie, I'm never going to pay bills Zabrowski. My name is Holden. Never got laid by playing that song and guitar at parties, McNeely. My name is Natalie.

I never got laid in high school hating that song. Oh, are you also in the didn't lose your virginity till you were in college club? I did not lose my virginity until after high school. I didn't go to college for two years after high school, so I went doubly. Yeah, yeah. We are our own selves because we're living our truth. Welcome, Natalie, to this is maternity time.

Natalie Jean. Thank you so much for helping us out. You're not in maternity time. Molly's on maternity time. Natalie's pregnant and we're pregnant. No. Never say it. Don't you put that show on us.

Be careful putting those words. words together. I don't like it. No, that's a fie on our household and McNeely and we don't want it. But I will say a many, many congrats to a one Molly Neffel for her baby has been born, which is great because I forced her into the studio last week and we were like, oh, she's so big. And she had a baby, I think the next day. Yeah, I think it was, yeah, it was one or two days after that. It was kind of amazing. Men can do it all. They can do it all.

And welcome Zelda, Josephine, to the world. Good job, Molly. Oh, my God, she did it. She pushed it out. And I loved it because someone said, I saw someone commented, like, the second she started talking about all the things, she's getting ready before the Plan C section.

She was like, I knew that baby was coming out of her faster than she expected. But I will say that I immediately, I think that we need to start calling Molly Marmee, because now this is two. little baby girls for her. And she did, I know that Josephine has nothing to do with little women, but in my mind it does. So now she has to have five girls, but all of them are going to live.

Not, so that's how she's not going to be marmee. She won't be Marmee, but she will be Marmee. She has to have three more daughters? She has to have three more daughters. That's what I just, I put that fie upon her house. Well, I mean, at this rate, it's definitely going to happen, you know, because she keeps, you know, just kind of stand in her lane and just still getting pregnant no matter what.

So we'll see, you know what I mean? Ooh, that means more page seven for me. Yeah, baby. Then you'll be on, you'll be Natalie maternity leave for the rest of your life. Oh, no. She's always in between babies. No, you're your own person. And we are very happy to have you.

Or somehow maybe she's like the page seven surrogate, but it's like the opposite way. She's like the surrogate ghost. I reject babies. Yeah, don't eat the babies, Natalie. Don't. My vagina rejects them. Can we take a second to appreciate that Molly's new baby's name is Zelda, which I think is beautiful.

And also, that was a name. Lexi was had in mind for a potential baby name. And I think it's really pretty. And also her husband's a big old nerd nerd. And so it's definitely a big tribute as well to, of course, the video game franchise, which is fantastic. I think that it has also something to do with the fact, I believe it also means something in Hebrew as well. So I don't think it was just the video game.

Does it actually mean something in Hebrew? Let me see. I think it means blessed. Really? I don't know if it's in Hebrew, but it means blessed. Jackie, what are you doing? I'm screwing it up. I'm screwing it all up.

I know it means blessed because in my brain I was like, oh, that baby is hashtag blessed. I did make that joke. myself. No, no, I'm reading it right here. It says, it actually says a hot dog lover. It means hot dog lover. Oh my God. That was my slack name, Hot Dog Lover 420. Wow. I wonder if anybody's named their child hashtag middle name blessed yet because I feel like that will happen. It has to. There's got to be a couple hashtags in the womb right now, just swimming around. That's gross because it reminds me of skin tags. It's not a great name to give a child. Oh, yeah. No, that are a rashy skin tag, which I also

don't want. I don't think. I don't need it to be any more in flame than it already is. Oh, no. I'm just excited because there's another baby a part of the network, and it is still, Molly's, and I just want to say, commonsense. Many a congrats to you. We will miss you here on page seven. But now I'm here. Yeah. I think so Natalie is actually, uh, Natalie is in Florida. right now, and I believe that you were recording in my old childhood bedroom. Ooh, Jackie, if these walls could talk. They would be like, stop having sex with those gay guys. I am.

I'm currently reporting from the daybed that now resides in your old bedroom. If you want, you can see how easy it is to sneak out that window. I can't believe you guys had windows on the ground floor of your bedroom. I can't believe that. It was so easy to sneak out of that bedroom. It was like it was begging me to sneak out. It's not even near your parents' bedroom. It's on the other side of the house.

It was like you had to do it. I never got to live that sneak out of the house life. I'll have no idea what that was or what that must have felt like. I was trapped in the upstairs of my bedroom. My parents slept with the bedroom door open. It was just like. They slept with the bedroom door open. Like a lot.

I mean, I think they finally started closing it. now. That's bad for fires. You have to sleep with the bedroom door closed because then it will give you extra time if there's ever a fire in the house. It was awful. There was no way to leave. There was like literally, if I went downstairs to get a

drink in the middle of the night, they would hear it. You know what I mean? Much less fucking go out and smoke, you know, cigarettes. There was a way to get onto the roof and I used to go out there in moments of desperation to get high or smoke cigarettes. But that was like such a fucking rarity and I was always mortified the entire time I was doing it

because I thought I was going to get caught any second. And then I'd go to my friend's house and he lived in like a basement like two floors away from his parents fucking could just go in and out at any point that he wanted to and had an entire floor of a house to himself. You sucker.

If only your parents ignored you like my parents did, I got out whenever I wanted. And they never cared. They really didn't. I'm sad that I'm sad that I wasn't horribly neglected. That is exactly what's going on right now. Did your parents leave the door open to watch you? I think there was definitely an element of like control over the house for sure.

Oh, really just setting aside their own comfort. My mom is a worrier. You know what I mean? My mom is like a, so I think that, yeah, definitely like wanting to pay attention. I think she always, I think anytime I did anything she thought I was doing a lot of drugs, which like, yeah, of course I was fucking doing drugs, Mom. It's fucking 2000 and fun. I do like that your mom actually assumed that you were cooler than you truly were in

house. Yeah, totally. Like, I'd have a girl over and they'd freak out. And I'd be like, guys, don't worry, I am so friend zoned right now. It's not even a fucking joke. Jackie, your mom was like that with Henry, too. Yes. Oh, she was all over.

And meanwhile, I was the one sneaking out and doing all of the drugs and having all of the fun. And she never looked my way. She just assumed that I wouldn't do any of these things. Ha, ha, ha, ha, I've got angel eyes. Ha, ha. But Henry, Henry was just writing comic books with his little boyfriend. Such a nerd. He's like, I'm just making videos with my friends.

And that's all he was doing. Dude, my favorite with Henry is the story. And he's not here to tell it, so I'll let him tell it himself. But his story about when his mom walked in on him jerking off to, like, Japanese, like, uh, schoolgirl porn. And she, and she flipped out. It's better than any big story to me. She flipped out and just like, you've, what did she say?

She's like, you're hurting yourself. You're hurting yourself. You're damaging yourself. Oh, God, it's just so, I don't know. I was just, I've been reading this, like, I've been reading this sexologist book lately. It's just, man, the things that happen to you in your teen years that just truly just ruin how you feel about sex and how you feel about and the shame you feel and all these things and trying to bring down those walls as an adult. It's insane. Yeah. I mean, we are all ruined

by our upbringing for sure. But, you know, but then you make, you turn lemons into lemonade much like Beyonce. And also much like Lizzo, did you guys see the Lizzo performance at the VMAs? Apps of fucking Lutli. It was incredible. She did such a... It's sad that the VMA ratings are tanking so much because I think it was like a really good VMA this year.

Like the performance wise, they didn't watch the whole thing. But Lizzo was fucking on fire. She was incredible. She had five different outfits. Oh, she's so wonderful. I think probably why it's tanking is because people do a lot of what I did, which was watched all the performances on YouTube.

You watch all the clips. Immediately after. it was aired, I went on YouTube and just watched the performances I was interested in and none of the ones that I weren't interested in. Of course. And I weren't interested in a lot of them, but I wasn't, I was

on, interested in Lizzo's dress. I think my favorite one was the one where I think that her Instagram caption was, I'm not bad, I'm just drawn this way with the red amazing strapless dress with a red feather boa and then on the dress it just said siren over

and over and over again. That was a good one. I liked her, was it a Mark Jacobs, the purple one? The poofy, like, I like that one a lot. Oh my God, like the 80s style dress she had, but then I also love, so during her performance, so behind her, my friend Kit Kat stopped

what I was doing. She's like, are you watching what's happening with Lizzo right now? And put her phone in front of my face, I was like, because she had a huge inflatable ass behind her. And the ass jiggled throughout the performance. And my God, It was beautiful.

Sipping on the tequila, too, and she slammed some patron. She's got great backup dancers, too, so they're always really fun to watch. And what I love is that she threw so much love towards her backup singers as well. And her Instagram, she said, every woman on that stage had a story of either why they shouldn't have been on that stage or why they didn't believe they deserve to be on that stage, including myself. And I will say, I cried when in the middle of the performance, she said, I'm tired of the bullshit. And I don't have to know your story to know that you're tired of the bullshit too.

It's so hard loving yourself in a world that doesn't love you back. Am I right? So I want to take this opportunity right now to just feel good as hell because you deserve to feel good as hell and I immediately started to cry. I definitely, I could be persuaded and not even persuaded.

I would just join a cult led by her. Like I understand how people become in cults because if she started it on, I'd be like, yeah. Yeah, she's sort of putting the messages out there And there doesn't seem to be anything that It throws you off of positivity Loving yourself, you know And then if that all works out

You get to have sex with like 20 virgins in the afterlife Which I love that was in the credits on her last album That she came out with It was the fine print was That's just a bonus to me I just want to be there with her You know, celebrating But the virgins after death are great

Yeah That is the weird thing too though Why is it always got to be virgins. I would want like a bunch of you know like milfs I think in the afterlife. Somebody that's done it and has done it a lot. Yeah, practiced. Non-dead, you know,

very you know, sexually just trained skilled. Some guys love a dead-eyed girl who's in obvious pain. Mid-sama. Having sex. Me-Sumar. Yeah. She wasn't dead-eyed. Lizzo Lizzo fantastic performance

Also shoutouts to this Hispanic like hip hop pop duo Jay Balvin and Bad Bunny for their performance which was weird as fuck I only caught it because it was like on the next on my

on my like YouTube watching of the VMAs but like just if you take a glimpse at this music at this performance they're wearing these like crazy they're wearing these weird suits that make them look like cartoon characters in this bizarre, like, almost like weird utopian internet kind of world for a stage. And it's really fascinating.

That's just, like, pop-down. I'm, like, scrolling through stuff. And, of course, I've got to gush about Taylor Swift. Jackie, just let me know when I can gush about Taylor Swift and I'll do it. You're not there yet. You're not allowed to do it yet because first- She won best. I know, but we're going to get there because first I want to talk about Jantra.

We're going to talk about John Travolta first. Let's talk about John Travolta. So we all remember John Travolta, and he said, he, for some reason, introed Idina Mansell as Adele Dazim at the Academy Awards in 2014 when he was bringing her on stage

for her to sing, let it go. So he's been trying ever since, which I think it's kind of funny, because this is the second instance that he has brought this up while introducing someone else on an award show, because obviously this is something that he is very

upset at himself about, and it's something that probably he thinks, about, I'm going to say, can you imagine doing something like this that was turned into a meme that I feel like at least three times a week, it would just randomly pop into my head. Yeah, I think if you're at that level, like he is, you have to just accept that this is your life now, that everything you do is going to be scrutinized. And I actually think he handles it really well, because he doesn't act like a prick about it. It seems like he seems more like he's sort of toying with it and having fun with himself.

I just love John Travolta. I think that makes them a lot more lovable, in my opinion, like the gaffs, you know what I mean? Yeah. If you're not a politician, like gaffes are hilarious. Yeah. Well, so he went up with Queen Latifah

to read the winner for top video of the year. And what he said, he's like, because he'll just mispronounce shit and fuck it up, which is very cute because I feel like he was trying to be young and hip by cursing a lot. He was. And when Taylor Swift won four, you need to calm down, John Tra accidentally almost handed the award to Jade Jolie,

who was in Rupal's drag race and also was one of the drag queens that plays Taylor Swift in the video. Yeah, so perfect. Which is very, very funny. But I have to say, as much as people are like, look at how John Travolta fucked up, can you imagine how amazing Jade Jolie feels? Yeah, she's like, I nailed it.

I nailed it. I looked so good. And, of course, you know, you're on a stage. you're being stared at by millions of people. But she looked so good that she almost got, was given the actual award. And I say,

gufaha. And also good for him, because it's now his, his MO to do fun little old man accidents. Right. And the best thing, too, is that he,

it's literally seconds after he addressed the fact that he fucked up before it's in the wrong name. It's kind of wonderful, really. like, it's like, I'm not going to do this again. I'm going to avoid this by letting you say it. And then finds a new, even better way to fuck up by mistaking the drag version of Tatee for Tate. And then Tatee gets up, it continues to lean into the political stuff, which I'm into. God, I hate that you call her Tatee.

Tate all day day, day. Okay, I sip my rosé. I listen to my Tatee and I fucking. I know, you are allowed. Now you are allowed to talk about Taylor Swift for a little bit. Do we have a time cap? Okay, yeah, yeah. How long do I get? T-T-T-T-T-E-T-Five minutes? Yeah, five minutes. Is that too many minutes? She also had, yeah, she also had her album come out this week as well.

There's a lot going on. All right, all right. T-Tay five minutes. Okay. Lover is a phenomenal album. I don't care what you say. At the end of the day, when it comes to TAY, we all came to play. Can you say Day Day?

And we want to say, we love Lave, which is what I call Lover, so that it rhymes with T-T-T. Honestly, take a step back, whatever you feel about. anything else. If you look at that as it is as a pop album, it is 18 songs. Every song is great. I enjoy it. It's a pretty great album. I will give you that. It is, it's a pretty great album. Like, even just from a technical standpoint, I was actually working on, um, in a recording. Do you say takical at this? A technical standpoint. The TAY album is, you know, it's very gray, right? When it comes to Tate. So it was like, we're in the studio, right? We're in, we're, I'm in this recording studio and the new album drops like the,

night I'm there and we're getting hammered and we put it on and I got to listen to it surrounded by this like amazing sound system. I will give this to Holden that he was surrounded by people who do not give a fuck about Taylor Swift and he put this album. Actually though, actually actually the recording engineers were like blown away from a technical standpoint of like the sound of lover,

the song itself and the whole album. They were like, we were dancing. Me and one of the engineers were like dancing around having a great time. Carly was our mutual friend Carly was like Can we please listen to something? And then also like the look on Carly's face after we'd listen to like eight songs when she found out that it was an 18 track album It was just like the crest fallen

Like we are in a studio we're like partying like we're in a studio We're getting all high or like drinking fucking vodka straight from the couple disgusting What are you kids? And we were just like and then it's just me in the recording and she were like hands in the air like dancing around just getting wasted. It really is great though. We were listening to it again last night. It's definitely one of her best albums.

How much time do I have? But I also wanted to highlight, and I'll let it speak for itself, but I just wanted to highlight her interview that she did with The Guardian, and she spoke towards a lot of things. I think a lot of people have a wrong perception of her about, and I don't want to get into the nitty gritty on that stuff

because why the fuck should I? I'll let this speak for itself, she has some really great quotes in there and I think she really does clear the waters on a lot of stuff and if you still fucking hate her after that article, I mean I don't think anything's going to change but I think that she's

done a great job here. I love that she continues to speak out about the issues surrounding you need to calm down and about this going on this big tear. The whole thing with like her relationship with Todrick Hall who she made this album four

because the whole reason reason why she made this song you need to calm down was he actually wasn't sure where she stood on gay rights which she couldn't believe because he's like super gay and so she made you know this song for him and worked with him on like the video

I don't know anyways it's beautiful and got all like you play off music oh no no you're getting played off I have two more minutes I will speak to the fact that soon you'll get better was a beautiful song that she wrote for her

mother whose cancer came back and she also sang it with the Dixie Chicks and I love the Dixie Chicks. And it's so good. And she talks in this article about how when she was getting into country music like or when she was doing stuff, they kept saying just don't do politics. Don't be like the Dixie Chicks. She like literally says that in the article and how bad she feels in hindsight about that and how important it was for her to collaborate with them. And also how she'll probably, she said she'll probably never play that song live because it was so difficult to write and record. And it really is beautiful. I actually got a little teared up last night listening to it.

Also shoutouts to so many good songs on this album. Death by a Thousand Cuts. I loved. I think he knows is a phenomenal song. The Man about essentially what her career would be like if she was a man, which I think is phenomenal. Just a lot of really great statements on this. And my God, I feel bad for this guy.

Just because the pressure is so on, dude. I was listening to Paper Rings, which is just about another song. probably out of like 12 on this album where she took gushes about this Alwyn guy. And man, that guy's got a lot of pressure, dude. Just hearing these songs, I'm like, I don't, I just could never live up to the standards. Why is this all about like, I love you, I love you, I love you, and you're the best. Yes.

It's just like, ah, like, I'm listening to it. I'm like, I couldn't imagine being in this scenario. Meanwhile, I was just reading an article about Sophie Turner versus Taylor Swift because Sophie Turner wore a dress that Taylor Swift wore in the past. And as everyone knows, Taylor Swift and Joe Jonas, who is now Sophie Turner's husband, they dated for like three or four months and she got almost an entire album out of it. Which is like, that's a lot to write. I mean, I guess that means you really love someone.

But can you write that much about dating someone for three or four months? Well, it's almost like you're using the release. to siphon off of feelings and emotions for your album. It's like you're sucking it out dry and then when they're a husk of a person, you just push them aside. But he's fine. He married Soviet Turner, so that's pretty cool. I doubt that she intentionally wore the same dress.

I don't think that she did. I think that I think she really is, I think as someone that is being billed as America's newest sweetheart, and she can do no wrong, I feel like it was just an oopsie-dupsy, which just makes everyone love Sophie Turner even more. She's not American, right? She's Australian.

Ah. She's Australian. One of these fucking Australians, they're all coming in and taking all of our jobs being charming. Actually, no, she's British. I was about to say, yeah, I was like, I'm pretty sure she's British.

I'm pretty sure I did an episode on Game of Thrones' Rights. Why did you say I was wrong? Because I was like, I guess I'm a fucking idiot. So I'm walking over here, doing my research like a moron. No, you have to tell me what I'm. I'm wrong. It's because I'm so, I'm thinking about Samara weaving and I have to stop thinking about Samara weaving. Right. I also love that she is like a huge Lizzo fan and was like freaking out getting a picture with Lizzo on the like that was so fun. Wait, can I just touch quickly on the,

on the, on the VMA's, uh, I cried during two performances and one of them was my least solo. Her, uh, her, not her solo, her new single. I haven't seen it. I didn't see that. Oh, it was amazing. It was about her breakup with sleep. and it was she's such an incredible singer and like the song is called flyed away by the way awesome yeah a lot of times I think her antics kind of get pushed in front of the fact she's actually a really accomplished singer and I yeah anybody has a question about her singing you always just have to point them to joelene the cover uh that is the just like end all be all proof that myly cyrus isn't an unbelievable voice and then it's like everything else can come after that

Yes, and I love her antics as well. I think she's fucking awesome. Mm-hmm. As much as I would dig having Mr. Holler and tell me I had to shine to me, I can't imagine him introducing me at a party as, this is Jackie. She's got a stink to her. And he wouldn't even dream of it, because my native deodorant is keeping the stinking from happening to my family.

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slash page seven right now, you can get your first refill pack for free. That's your first refill pack free at G.E-T-Q-U-I-P dot com slash page seven. And then the other one was the Missy Elliott mashup. Oh my God. It made me so happy. I love Missy Elliott so fucking much. and she's amazing. And she did all of her...

Did you watch it? Yes. Mm-hmm. She did all those songs all in a row and all... She does the best live performances and her art design on her videos and stuff are so fucking good. Can you imagine being able to keep up with that just from like song to song to song to song to song? Like with that kind of string, how do you keep it all straight? I mean, I don't know if maybe they've got, you know, teleprompters or something.

But like, I feel like my brain would just explode. Even though you rehearsed a bunch, it's just like... all right, what is coming next? Where are we going next? What is happening now? It's because she's a goddamn queen. Exactly, right? And how do you get to Carnegie Hall?

I mean, you know, they just fucking rehearse these shit out of that, you know? I always think about that. How crazy that's got to be. I bet you rehearsed for weeks leading up to this like one five-minute moment. That's got to be so stressful, especially for one of these, like, live. You know, even for not to bring it back to Taylor Swift, but just even love her. That was the first time she'd ever performed that song live, which has got to be insane like very intense you know what I mean but so fucking fun man especially with that with that

kind of budget you have those sets and those costumes uh be so fun and that you could just do so much and also back to Sophie Turner did you see the pictures of her meeting jonathan van ness back yeah and he was so excited because so jonathan van ness is now pushing for gay of thrones which was his youtube show that was about essentially redoing the hairdoes from game of thrones So he's been following Sophie Turner since the beginning of Game of Thrones. So him meeting, like with them meeting each other backstage, it looked like pure joy radiated from both of them and it made me so happy. It's a real full circle moments.

I know. I'm so happy for them. Oh, we didn't talk about the sexy, almost kiss that. Sean Mendez and Camilla Bella. So do you think, so every, I mean, I've seen a million blind items. about how she's this beard and yada, yada, yada. And then they did this almost kiss thing, even though they supposedly have been in a relationship.

So like, why wouldn't they kiss? Just kiss, kiss, kiss? Not everyone's gay, Holden. I know, but it's just the blindy blind item about it. And then why didn't they just make out if they're dating? Well, gay people have made out with straight people many times in the past. I think if he was gay, he would be able to manage a quick, smackaroo on the lips if he was trying to hide it.

I don't think it was like, I can't kiss her. I only kiss men's mouth. I just hate almost kisses. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I do too. They make me mad. Would we be talking about this if they had kissed? Because there are pictures of them everywhere making out all across the globe.

Would we be talking about it if they kiss? I think this is all a publicity stunt. Probably. Yeah, you're probably right. But to me, it's like if you almost sneeze. Like don't almost go in for a kiss And then don't you fucking asshole I can't even imagine like I can't imagine as a full grown adult going in for a kiss and not doing it

I would immediately be like you kiss me now Cess me give me that kiss You seal the deal because I want it and I need it That's how I got my first kiss Oh yeah did you force it I screamed and screamed at him Yeah no I didn't I didn't force any man to ever kiss me I swear don't I appreciate you So in my band which I also never forced someone to kiss me

but in my band we had in high school we had the most problematic song ever on hindsight which was me like trying to sing a romantic song but the chorus was she said no but I kissed her anyway she said no

we put this album on and we're like yeah let's listen to our band from back in the day and we were just like oh my god this is the word by the way this was not based off of a true story it was just it was trying to be funny it was trying to be like a romantic song but actually it had like a punky kind of whatever,

ugly kid Joe vibe. Let's actually, I would say punky. I mean, all the songs from the 50s and 60s were all about pretty much rape or statutory rape. You're 16, you're beautiful, and you're mine. And you're mine. She's 16, she's beautiful, she's mine. Oh, so romantic.

I feel like it's kind of the weird, I mean, not anymore because everything has changed. But I feel like back in the day, it was a weird dream of mine for me to be like, no, you can't kiss me. And then him just grab me like, like, I have to kiss you. I feel like when I was 15, I would have loved that. Well, yeah, because you're scared, kind of. But, like, but, you know, it has to be in a scenario where you actually do want to kiss the man because that could also be a situation where a man's going, give me, call me a girl.

And you're going, no. And then he's like, this is what I've seen. movies the girl wants it. She does want a mama let me get. I'm just like, okay, you get. Oh, you are right, you do get. All right, so this is how pathetic I am, okay? Ooh, how pathetic.

And it's always been. This was my fantasy back in high school. My fantasy was not, I see a girl getting harassed by a jock, and I go up and I beat the shit out of them, and then walk away with the girl. My fantasy was, I see the girl getting harassed by the jock, I walk up, I defend her honor, he beats

the fuck out of me, and then the girl feels bad for me and decides to be my girlfriend. I'm serious. I had that fantasy like over and over again. Because I knew myself. I'm like, I won't win the fight. At least you weren't lying to yourself. You know, at least you were true to your day. You're living your truth is what you're doing. She'd stay behind and bandage my wounds and, you know, care for like nurse me back to hell. That's a little bit of a, that's a little bit of a mommy thing too. Yeah, a little bit.

Oh, yeah. 100%, you know what movie you need to see, and I feel like I might bring it up too often, is the mountain between us. I feel like if that's the kind of kink thing that you're into, then the Kate Winslet-Edrous album movie about how they're both betrothed to others, but the plane goes down and they have to take care of each other.

And of course they're going to fall in love. Of course. Of course they're going to fall in love. They have to take care of each other. You can't survive that kind of thing. It's kind of like, you know, Tom Hanks and Wilson, in Castaway, he couldn't return and just go back to his FedEx life. 39% on rotten tomatoes, man.

Rotten tomatoes, I swear. Oh, it makes me so mad. So mad. Rotten tomatoes gets a rotten tomato in my book. Yes. You know what? It does get a rotten tomato in my book. It is unfresh or whatever they say.

Yeah, or whatever bullshit they have. But then that's a thing, though, is I keep saying, like, you know, I say, screw rotten tomatoes. I don't believe in rotten tomatoes. they always hear me wrong, and yet, I always look. Yeah. Why do I always look? Because we like pain.

I do like pain. You know who else likes pain? K.J. Epa. KJ.Epa likes pain. Why is he like pain? Why is he like pain? Because I was really excited. So I sent this, it was a trailer for KJ Epa's new movie, I still believe, and I sent it to

Molly. And if there is one thing that Molly does do, she is the person, I am the opposite of this person. you send her a text and she immediately responds. She always is like on, like, unless, you know, she's like helping a baby or doing something, you know, whatever. But she usually is a person that always responds fairly quickly. And I sent her the trailer for KJ. Appa's new movie, I still believe, with no response. And then the next day I was like, what the hell?

Where are you? Why are you screaming with me about KJ. Appa's new Christian rock movie? And it's because she was in the middle of having a baby. And she said that it was the first thing she watched after giving birth. And I thought that, I feel like, I hope that means only good things for Zelda's life. Because like that rage and the fury she felt, I think really just like gave her, like, it's going to give Zelda the pizzazz to take life by the balls. It shoots lightning bolts into the baby.

Yeah. Give her your power. That's a cool concept. That's to watch something that makes you furious right after you give birth and just transfer the energy into the baby. I like that. We should try it. That's exactly what I'm hoping happens. So a couple of weeks ago, we were screaming about Jennifer Garner's new movie,

Miracle from Heaven, and Molly was screaming about it because it has an insane cast. And then I saw the trailer, I Still Believe, which is about KGA Appa, who as we know is Archie from Riverdale, is a Christian rocker. And so he is actually currently in real life dating Britt Robertson, who plays. plays his fiance in the movie. They get engaged at the age of 20 because she has ovarian cancer. And he goes on the stage and he's just like,

we're going to pray for her to get better. But the thing is, is that his parents are played by Shania Twain and Gary Sinise. Oh. Perfect. I think it's a perfect family. There's another one, too,

starring Chrissy Metz from This Is Us called Breakthrough. That's the other one we were talking about when he gets Audrey. of the ice of the power of prayer breaks them back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about that in depth. These are just, this is disturbing.

Is this a new trend? Or is this always been happening? And I'm just not as aware of it as I now have to be. It's always been there to an extent. But it seems like right now it's like very popular. Like they're making better budget ones of these. It's not just like, remember the, what's the book series that they made into bad movies about the apocalypse?

Left behind. Did you remember that? Like, I don't know if you had like religious family friends or like a buddy with religious family, but I remember that was on a lot of bookshelves, and it was a note of, it was like a message to me, like, oh, this house is a slightly disturbing. They have all of the left behind books. Well, Jackie, you read them, right? Well, I, so I read the first book, and I was in the middle of the second book, when I found out that it was a Christian book about the rapture. I just thought it was an apocalyptic book. I thought it was like, oh, all the

people disappear. Because that, I just wasn't raised, like, knowing that part of faith. Right. I didn't know that this was something. I was like, wait a second. Wait a second. So they only took the people of other faiths and people that didn't believe the same way as you. Wait a second. And I got really upset at myself. Also, I will be, I will say, those are the days. I think it was in high school and I was doing a lot of drugs back. Right. So I could see how in some sort of a K-hole you discovered the series and you know once the horse tranquilizer wore off you you're like wait a second this is religious I just like this I'd like this utopian future books all right so soon I do too I do too and I was raised completely as a heathen so I had no idea that

they were books but Henry and I found he you know of course he has a Nicholas Cage fanaticism so Nicholas Cage stars in the left behind movie does he really really? Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And the female lead is, what's her name? Leah Thompson. Well, I also know it's Kirk Cameron, too, right? Or is he, is that not the movie and that is the miniseries? I don't think he's in it. Oh, left behind is the movie based on it. And then Kirk Cameron did the television miniseries. Kirk Cameron also made that. Have you ever seen that? He makes really bad movies. Yeah, the Christmas movie, dude. It is old.

my god, have you heard of this, Jackie? This is an unbelievably bad movie. What's the name of it? What's, uh, I gotta look it up. I'm sorry, also the Kirk Cameron is also a movie. I don't know why I thought it was longer than that. Maybe it's just because I started watching it and I just assumed it was a thousand years long because of, um, how slow and horrible it was.

Oh, it's just the movie is saving Christmas and it is a giant trash fire. It is so bad. It makes no sense. But it's like Uber Christian, but its message is like all over the place anyways. Yeah, which makes it kind of great, in my opinion. But so we were watching Left Behind because Henry is a Nicholas Cage fan. I didn't know it was a religious movie. And much like you, Jackie, about halfway through, I did kind of pick up a religious tone,

but then halfway through, there's a scene on a plane with like a Muslim man and a Jewish person. And then they go into why they're not going to go to heaven. And I was like, oh, no, we can't finish watching this. Oh, no. These are none of the things that I agree with. Now, I am wondering if all of this, you know, the resurgence of high budget Christian films, do you think it has anything to do with the fact that Lori Loughlin is being taken down and that Hallmark is must be seeing such a hit from Lori Loughlin being taken out of, like, all of Hallmarks,

which like she had so many things on the Hallmark channel, but with everything with the disgrace of her, you know, of what she has done with the college scandal, the bribery scandal, that they're taking all of it off. So I wonder if it's just like bleeding over. It's like, well, now we don't got to pay Lori Laughlin anymore.

We got all this money. So I guess we'll pay all of these other people to do these things. I do know that today when we stopped into Walmart here in Florida, I saw People Magazine, And the cover story was Lori Laughlin and her two daughters, which looked like they had just done a new photo shoot for the magazine. So they are spinning this scandal into more fame. Well, and also I saw like this weird article that was trying to, I believe,

garner sympathy for Lori Laughlin. She's like, none of my friends call me anymore. Oh, fuck so. Everyone pretends like I don't exist anymore. Yeah, bitch. What do you fucking think? Yeah, dude. You can't fuck it.

You know what? people people get resentful okay first of all you probably have a bunch of social like friends that'll fucking drop you at the turn of a fucking dime because that's all they care about your friends didn't care about you to begin with yeah exactly and then the ones that aren't like that probably dropped you like a bad habit because they resent that kind of shit trying to pay your way through life you know what it is this is the message okay don't try to be perfect try to be the best you you can be okay because when you try to be perfect yes holden you know what i'm saying your truth live your fucking truth but

And do not try to be fucking perfect. Because the moment you try to be perfect, you start fucking paying colleges to get your fucking Linda LaRue, your daughter, or whatever her stupid name is. Who doesn't even want to go to college? She was being the best her she could be. And she was very successful without college.

Right? I have to go to college. It is just about fucking Lori Loughlin's ego. Which makes me so disgusted. Yeah. So, yeah, whatever. Like, I have no, yeah, I don't feel bad at all. And, you know, it's just, it's fun to,

this is the fun time, right? When people shoot themselves in the... It's awful when people get embroiled in bad situations, but people just like beg for it and then it gets their come-up and it's Jackie, what are you trying to do to the world right now? I know. I am just trying to be positive

and I wish I could be best friends with Lizzo. Is that too much to ask? Why can't we be on stage together? I know. I heard somebody has been mailing Lizzo stacks of cash to try to spend friend time with her, quote-unquote. Is it Rihanna because she definitely hit up Rihanna because Rihanna is a known Lizzo fan

and Lizzo just sent out a tweet that was essentially like, Girl, you want to work with me? And because Rihanna had sent her a DM that said like, you fuck the shit out of that stage. Oh, you fucked that stage like it was your side bitch. It's what the DM said from Rihanna. Oh, Rie. I love this new, like Lil Naz X has been doing it on Twitter as well,

this new way of just, getting collaborations to happen by just adding people on Twitter and shit and just be like let's fucking make it happen. You think I'm great, let's do this right? Let's go to the studio right now. And sometimes it works. And Lizzo's doing that too, right? Yeah, she's about to do, she's doing a new project with Justin Timberlake right now. But then, you know, then there are

the times where she was vying for the Ursula slot for the live action Little Mermaid and she dressed up like Ursula and put it on her Instagram and sang poor unfortunate at Souls and she lost it to Queen Latifah, which I get, you know, I completely understand. I think that Queen, I love Lizzo to death, but Queen Latifah is a queen and I, you know. She will crush that part. She's going to crush it.

What happened to, oh, because there's two different ones. There's two different ones. Okay. Yeah, so there's two different ones happening right now, and I believe that the one with, is it the one with Queen Latifah that has, oh, is that, um, is it, um, I'll be back in on the car top? It wasn't me. Who is it? That's Shaggy.

The Shaggy. Shaggy? Shaggy. Shaggy's playing Sebastian. Oh, you didn't just confuse Queen Latifah for Shaggy, did you? No, no, no, no. I'm trying to say, I don't know if that's the project that he's also, I don't know if that's the Queen Latifah live-action Little Mermaid, or if it's the other live-action Little Mermaid with Melissa McCarthy. Wait, there are two. What? There's two different ones. Yeah.

What? One is a TV special and one is a movie. Welcome to your live-action Disney Dysopia. It is the TV special, the one with Queen's. Latifah is playing Ursula and Shaggy is playing Sebastian, which you know what, I'm down. And on top of that, we've got, and then we also have Lady and the Tramp live action. Have you seen the puppy? Have you seen the puppy?

The orphan puppy. So for the new Disney Plus, they're making a live action Lady and the Tramp that you can only see on Disney Plus and fuck you Disney Plus. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you to death because I'm going to get Disney Plus. Because I want to see the Lady to Trimpe. I want to see the reboot of Lizzie McGuire. It's not fair. Oh, he's so adorable. He's a real tramp.

He was. Have you seen the picture? Yeah. I'm on board for this. I didn't realize they were using live dogs. I thought they were probably going to do like a digital version, but they wanted to rescue a bunch of dogs. They wanted to rescue a bunch of dogs.

They rescued them. And do you think they fucking it? Because I feel like they could still do, they could actually have sex and still be a kid's movie because it's Oh, yeah. I heard it's N-C. 17. Yeah, it's graphic.

It's graphic. They called it the kids of Disney movies. This is like their kids turn. They're going to do... Oh, yeah, yeah. He's got full red rocket and everything. I just love that Brigham Taylor... Oh, Brigham Taylor, the producer

of Lady and Tramp Remake, said once we started turning our attention to casting the main dogs, in that same breath we said, we need to rescue as many of these dogs as we can. Which just, of course, that I have to watch it. And the dog that is playing tramp.

His original name was Monty, and he was rescued from a shelter in New Mexico, not very long before the filming began. A kill shelter. And it breaks my heart, and I love them, and the pictures of him and the dog that also plays the lady. She's also really cute. And Holden, it makes me think of your parents, King, what are they, King Charles Spaniels? Yeah, yeah, totally. That totally is a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. I love that, like, that is such a fancy fucking name for a dog, and it really is such a fancy type of dog.

And she, in particular, looks like a rock star or Roxy, our, the, one of the two they had, well, Bitsy passed away recently. I'm sorry to bum you out, but that happened. Oh, no. Everything is dying lately. Everything's dead. I will say Bitsy is a very cute dog. So cute, such a sweet baby. But Roxy's still kicking it.

And this one looks more like Roxy, which is kind of amazing. I wonder if it is Roxy. Did my parents dog get into a movie? Oh, my God. Are you secret millionaires? I will say I'm a little bit offended by their size normativeness of coupling, the dogs where the male dog is much bigger than the female dog, because what about the couples where the woman's taller? Yeah.

Oh, are you offended? buy it. Oh, please. Yeah, I am. Natalie's offended as a beautiful, tall, amazing woman with a short leprechaun-husk husband. Can you please start that awareness campaign, Natalie, for my sake, for Henry's sake. Can you please go on this huge, like, feminist, like, awareness Twitter campaign about being a taller woman in the relationship? And then eventually it'll spiral into me just hating short women in trying to get them No! And then you just like every time you enter a room

with me in it you start singing short people got no reason to leave. I'm like Natalie please don't. There's an article there's an article on Slate's like short woman denied access to tall woman's conference.

I'm tall on the inside. I've found my purpose in life finally today. No. But I think that Tom Green has always known his purpose in life. Daddy, would you like some sausage? Daddy, would you like some sausage?

I got very excited because I saw a headline with Tom Green in it. And I immediately was like, Tom Green, because I don't know about y'all. But not only did I love Tom Green, but I wanted to be married to Tom Green. I actually didn't like Drew Barry more for a while because she got to have a fly-by-night marriage with Tom Green. Well, I, uh, I, uh, I, in fact. unfortunately have a different take on Tom Green, but also Henry wanted me to make sure that I inserted that he was very unhappy with the fact we were having a Tom Green conversation without him and out without his input because he has very deep, strong feelings about Tom Green.

You know, he's definitely a character. I mean, he's definitely had his, his story. Listen, I have grown up loving, weird, subversive comedy and all that shit. I love dark comedy, all the stuff that he does. But to me, growing up, he was sort of that, he almost felt like a jock to me, where he was like really kind of mean-spirited in what he did. And I get, he wasn't really, I get he was just a lunatic. But I'm going to have to go on record and say that Jackass did what he did way fucking. better. Sure, sure. I think though he did

pave the way for jackass. And at the same time, Natalie after I heard, I heard him on a podcast recently where he talked at length about like his career starting out and I think he would 100% agree with you. He talked about how he used to be such a dick and like you know, he would he would purposely just fuck with people and and yeah, I think he would totally agree with that sentiment. What 100%? He definitely, Tom Green definitely has. had like funny moments to me, but...

Remember when he put his butt on the railing? Yeah. Remember when his butt was on the Swedish? I loved it. I know it was bad. I'm sorry, Jackie. It's all horrible, but I loved him. And the lesbian mobile was like completely amazing. No, the slut mobile. Slutmobile. So that was the reason why he was brought up. So he is in this new movie, which I actually never saw Iron Sky, which is a very tongue-in-cheek

comedy. It's something to do with space. I never saw it, but he's in the sequel of Iron Sky, called Iron Sky, the Coming Race, and he plays the bad guy in it where he's some sort of space cult leader. So he's on the interview rounds right now. This sounds like Nazi propaganda. It's kind of, I think it's more making fun of Scientology is what it's like, because I think his cult leader is supposed to be a little more Tom Cruise-ish. So he was actually calling out Jimmy Kimmel because Jimmy Kimmel reposted a clip from a 2010 episode of the Jimmy Kimmel show where he pranked his Aunt Chippy and painted her house orange and green. And he said, oh, you were just copying my style and copying what I did,

which is a little ridiculous because at that time there was just so many prank things. I don't think that he actually was. And really, I just think Jimmy Kimmel wasn't as much of an asshole as Tom Green was, like the Slotmobile. And then I watched The SlotMobile when, Tom Green in the middle of the night turned his parents car into what he referred to as his love mobile

and put very graphic born images on the hood of the car and his dad woke up and was really, really angry because then he couldn't take the car to work and then he drove, okay, and then his dad goes to the bus stop to take the bus to work and there's a bunch of his like co-workers there and Tom Green drives the car to the bus stop

and it gets out, just like, Dad, you don't like what I did with your car. It is so incredible. I know it's not good. I know he's horrible. I remember seeing that as a teenager and just losing my mind. The best. I know. And like with the parents stuff, I get it.

And their parents are to some extent on board with it. They're part of the game as well. But I would, again, I'm sorry, Jackie. I'm not trying to diminish your feelings for Tom Green. I understand. I think I am the one that doesn't have the popular. opinion. But I do, I would say, I would say that him as a middle-aged man trying to claim that he invented a prank from 25 years ago that Jimmy Kimmel somehow took from him is not maybe the best

look to have. No. Maybe. I mean, yeah, you can make an argument. Like I said, he paved the way for all of this shit. Sure. You could make an argument that you could always make that argument, but it's more like, just be the legend that started it. Don't like, you don't have to like call people out for like, Right. And also, like, Jimmy Kimmel came from radio and was doing stuff like this, you know. Yeah. I mean, the man show, they did pranks.

They did Tom Green-style pranks like crazy on the man show. One of my favorite being the drunken pilot prank. Did you ever see that one? Where they just dressed up like pilots and walked around an airplane acting completely hammered and like, I have to get some of my flight. I got to get some of my flight. Everyone was just mortified. It was so good.

That's pretty great. Yeah, no, you can't do the man show. more because I just remember being mesmerized. Girls on trampolines. And I just would like, I would pause. Like I was recorded on VHS and I would go back and watch it because I was just mesmerized by the way their breasts moved. And I always wanted my breasts to move like that.

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Different. Yeah, it's a different kind. It's a different kind. And I'm okay with that. But, but I did. I mean, I'm going to have to have to be. Like, I had a lot of fun watching the man show and like with my best friend and his dad and being like, you know. It's garbage.

I mean, ultimately that shit was harmless. Like, I thought it was a fun show too. But I also understand at this junk. sure in time there's not a space for it's not something that needs to be said at this point because it's already been said i'm hoping we do get to a point where where we can get back to an age where it's somehow okay to be offensive again but i'm fine i'm fine with where we're at but i uh i wonder what's gonna have i wonder if that's going to happen like yeah i definitely will i think about that all the time like because now with everything so you know usually there's such

a rubber band effect and i just i'm waiting and wondering for that moment when it's just like everyone can just be unbelievably offensive again. I don't know, though. I don't know if it will happen. You know what I'm saying? I think it will. I think it will. But you know, we will turn rubber band back around to is that it's time for the list.

Oh, who's on the list? Checking! Got to have that list. We are doing genuinely wild facts about celebrities that'll alter your worldview. Oh, my. That's just a little bit, I don't know. I think it's a little bit of a little bit of. an extreme headline.

I did enjoy some of them, which is why, because I read a lot of lists. I will say that. And this one, I was like, oh, I didn't know that. Like the first one, Google Images was created after Jennifer Lopez wore that infamous dress at the 2000 Grammys. Because so many people wanted to see her, because everyone talked about it. So I don't know if you guys remember, but it was the sheer longsleeved green number. Yeah, Trey Parker wore it.

Yes, Trey Parker wore it. And it, like, and it cintches around her cratchel area and then goes down. And so many people wanted to look at it that they needed to create an image search option for it. I did know that one. I remember this was like, this was like, breaking the internet before Kim K did it. It's always funny too. I remember seeing it and being like, oh, okay. But I, what, you know, it's, you know, it was kind of like Michelle Obama's arms.

Like the things that make America as a whole horned out, I just kind of never am like a hundred percent there with. Same with like, hit me baby one more time was this like massive horny bomb that hit America. You don't like a naughty baby. Yeah, baby, baby, baby. Like everything that it seems like the world horns out about, I'm always a little step back being like,

nah, okay. I mean, I get it, but I'm not going to fucking go furiously masturbate to this woman in her dress. You mean like when Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction at the 2004 Super Bowl? Stupid. That was so stupid. But it is why YouTube was created. So many people were not watching the Super Bowl that they were online.

And the dude that created, the people that created YouTube were, they created YouTube because they couldn't find the video online. I didn't know that. And that's crazy to me that YouTube is not that. old. I thought you two was way older than that. No, man. It's just you feel like it's been around forever but it just, it hasn't been. Yeah, although I guess that nipple was also

fucking 15 years ago. Yeah, I feel like a nipple's been around forever. Oh my God. Nipples's been around for a long time. Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah. And also, how do you feel about this, Holden, that Kate, before their huge falling out, Katie Perry used to carry a lock of Taylor

Swift's hair around in her bag. You know, it always weirds me out and people carry hair around with them. You know, one of the weirdest parts of, this actually reminds me of 90-day fiancé before the 90 days, Paul, who's one of the most fascinating characters in that entire show.

His mother gave him a, not just a lock of her hair, he gave him a bag of her hair, a Ziploc plastic bag of her hair to take on the trip with him to go meet his future wife. And it was really disturbing. Where did she get all the hair from?

I don't know. Maybe it'd been falling out. She was older. She was older, is his mom. But I don't know. I was like, who, what planet am I on right now? Who gives someone a bag of, what are you even going to do with a bag of hair? All you need is a lock, I think it's weird, though. You just got to stick your face in there and sniff real day.

You got sniff, mummy's hair. Did either of you guys participate in any kind of hair exchange, whether it be family lovers, anything? It does seem like a Shakespearean-style romantic gesture, but to me, it's just kind of gross. I'm not even grossed out by hair, but to me, it's still. gross. Honestly, in a locket, I feel like it would be cool. I've never held anyone's hair before, but I feel like if you put in something or someone that had passed, like that kind of thing, and also ritualistically, it is a very important thing that you can use that is easily obtainable, you know, in whatever you would like to use it for. So I get that. And I actually have used

hair for things before, but I've not had, no one's ever given me their hair. I've seen some pretty, I've seen some cool art made with hair like a sculpture things made with hair. I can get by that because again I'm not super grossed out by hair. One thing that I did purposely do to gross someone out my friend always this is Riland actually. I'm pretty sure this happened

that I didn't make it up but I don't know I think I'm pretty sure that I remember this. In college I had a cyst on my neck and he'd always point it out and remind me of it and bug me about it and then I finally got it removed and I was like hey doctor can I keep the cyst gunk and he gave me a vial of it and I gave it to my friend. That's truly disgusting.

I think that that is probably unethical and the doctor should lose his license. The doctor really should have gotten rid of the juice. Yeah, no, that's truly disgusting. Dude, it looks like an alien. That is truly disgusting. That seems like that could be some sort of bio-warfare issue. You could, like, really cause a lot of damage.

Oh, it was just nasty. It's just dead skin cells, guys. It's not, it's not. Yeah, I don't know. It just makes you think of the, like, in my big fat Greek wedding when she had the, the, she should, She's like that, like, I had a tumor removed, and there was hair and there was teeth inside of it. And the tumor was my sister.

I, you just reminded me of that movie, which is, that movie is so fucking. It's one of, it still is definitely one of my favorite movies. I love that movie. It's great. I think I saw it in the theater. And it holds up. With my mom and we had a blast. I worked at, I worked at a movie theater that was playing it.

I remember that. Do you see it a bunch? It's great. It was at an indie theater where nobody ever came, but everybody came to that movie. Because it's an amazing movie. That's where that movie would be shown. Just so you guys know, Brian Cranston was once a suspect

in a murder investigation. This kind of thing always scares me. So during a road trip around America where Brian Cranston picked up odd jobs, he worked in a restaurant where he hated the head chef and often used to joke with staff that he wanted to kill him. The chef ended up dead,

which coincided with Brian leaving town, and the timeline meant he became, became a suspect. Luckily, he was able to prove his innocence. Oh, I don't know. I don't know about that. Back in the day, you remember all the time I was just like, oh, I just want to get rid of them.

And then like, that actually coinciding with someone happenedstensely being murdered and then also you being wrapped up in the investigation. That's terrifying. And who knows? I mean, not to spoil too much, but maybe he pulled a euphoria. I mean, there could be some shady business going on. Whoa. Yeah, yeah.

I think it totally fits in that Brian Cranston could secretly be. a mastermind murderer. He's a phenomenal actor. Any phenomenal actor could be a murderer. You can't trust any of them. Yep. Oh, I wonder if Henry knows this as someone that is a big Nick Cage fan. Nicholas Cage's actual name is Nicholas Kim Coppola.

He chose a stage name based on his favorite comic book character, Luke Cage. I knew he was a Coppola, but I didn't know about the other part. It seems a little cultural appropriety. But I guess not. You can just love an action hero. I mean, if you're picking a stage name anyway, what does it really matter? That's true. He was just a fan.

Whitney Houston produced The Princess Diaries. Oh, my God, my worldview is somehow suddenly. Oh, dear. Oh, God, take it back. I wish I didn't know. Oh, I see the world so differently now. I'm voting Republican this year. Oh, my God, everything is different.

Oh, God, I love Trump. I love him. No. Oh, my God, my worldview, where did it go? Emily Blunt used to have a stutter. her childhood. What? No, I'm not a stutter.

No! God, no. Oh, Kesha once broke into Prince's house to plant her demo tape in the hopes of cracking the music industry. Weird. See, that's weird because if that was a boy doing that to a woman, that would not be okay.

I don't think that it's okay no matter what. She said... That's what I'm saying. Yeah, she said she ended up bumping into Prince himself on the way out, who asked, who the hell are you? She says she, quote, pooped her pants, ran away and never heard from him again. Oh, man, I really hope she actually pooped her pants.

I hope she did, too. That kind of reminds me of what I think is an underrated movie with Emma Watson in it, called The Bling Ring. Do you ever guys, you guys ever watched that? I never saw that, but I remember when you saw it and you lost your mind for it. I thought it was amazing because it was a true story about a group of, like, party kids who realized that, realize two things. Celebrities just don't walk their fucking houses and pay no attention to the security alarms or anything And also that they always announce on Twitter and stuff

Like where they're going to be that weekend So like they targeted Paris Hilton's house a lot But Paris Hilton would be like hey I'm in Spain for the weekend Like I'm going to have so much fun And so they'd be like okay she's gone all weekend And then they would go to her house break in party Use all her drugs like also the celebrities would never notice when things were missing So they would just like take a bunch of shit out of her closet.

They fucking party and fucking do a bunch of blow in her like weird party room in her mansion. And then and then just leave and they just did a string of these until they finally got caught. That's crazy. Yeah. But also that's just terrible. You really want to put that bad juju out into the world? I mean, it's going to come back to you. What you re what you sow.

Wait. You reap what you soul. You reap what you so. Exactly. Also it's directed by Sophia Coppola, who if you're a fan of hers, I am. She did, you know, Lost in Translation and Perks of Being a Wall... Did she do Perks to Be a Wallflower? Didn't she also do Virgin Suicides?

Yes, she did do Virgin Suicides. She did not do Perks of Being Wallflower. She did do Virgin Suicides. She also did Marie Antoinette, which I never saw. I haven't seen that either. I dug it, which also not even to get into that, because I haven't started watching it, because I have to figure out a way to watch it.

Kirsten Dunst in Marie Antoinette was really great. But her new show, which I'm very excited about, what is it called? It's called, oh, on becoming a god in central Florida, where she's the head of this pyramid scheme in central Florida. Oh, I saw. And everyone is losing their mind for it. Apparently she's amazing in it.

I am going to figure out a way to watch it, and I will report back. Hell yeah. Yeah. I've been getting really lost in the weeds lately on multi-level marketing and how damaging it is, and it's especially bad, like in Florida, and certain areas where they just feed on. for lack of better term, like desperate housewives. And retirees and shit, yeah.

Yeah, and it's so disgusting and it's, ugh. What was the, what was the leggings company called that just got called out? Lulu, LaRue or something. It was one of those, right? Yeah, Laru, something like that. All I know is that one of this sister, Mary from sister wives is still works for them, unfortunately. Lula Rowe. I think it's called Lula Rowe.

Yeah, I believe it. Uh-oh, my God, everything's getting. dark. Oh, it's all different now. Oh, no. I think I'm going. Blind. Items.

We can't see them. Oh, no. This is Holden's new entrance into blind items. Okay, Natalie, we're going to do this together, right? You'll remember the next thing, okay? I go, oh, my God, everything's getting dark. I think I'm going, and then you two go blind. Blind.

And I know items, and then you guys go, we can't see them. Sound good? Yeah, I got it. Okay. Oh, oh my God. Everything's going dark. I think I'm going. Blind.

Items. We can't see them. Is that good? Yeah, it was great. We're really getting there. We're really getting there. I'm going to give a note. Can I give a couple notes?

Please. Can I get a little more enthusiasm next time when it, especially we can't see them. All right. Okay, yeah, we don't do it again today, but just think about it for next week. We'll pop. Thank you for your notes. I'll work on it.

Also, be, you know, you guys are both great actors. Be genuinely concerned when I think I'm going on. What? The problem is that it. The problem is it always makes me think of blindness. It makes me think of that book. And if you've ever read that book, it is a book that still resonates. And I think about it maybe five times a month at least.

Horrifying. I think it's funny what happens in that book. It's, no, it's not. They're locked up into an institution. He's helping you get into character. Do you see that? Blind. And by the way, listeners at home,

I know I sold that really well, but I didn't actually go blind in that moment. I'm just doing it for the intro. So I don't want our listeners to be concerned about that. He's brave. If you could also say he's brave more often when I say or do something brave, Jackie, that would really help my confidence.

So everything you say, because he's so brave all the way. the time. Okay. The, the, the, the permanent A-list singer slash wannabe actor and his actress wife are hanging on by a thread. It is getting harder every day to pretend there is something left of their marriage. We have a singer, big singer, big deal singer. Not big right now currently specifically, like not super big right now in terms of, you know, didn't perform at the VMAs, but this is one of the like permanent A-list singer, guys, men. And then the actor wife is, she's in a bunch of bullshit.

Donnie Wahlberg. No. Ooh. That was interesting. Yeah, I like it. More modern than Don't. More modern than New Kids on the Block? What else is there?

Actually, yeah, slightly more modern, but there is a boy band basis. Oh, is it Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel? Absolutely. Oh, that's sad. That makes me sad. Yeah, that's a bummer. tidbit that doesn't really speak towards that, but is very funny. Recently in an interview, or there was an interview on Earth, so it's the anniversary of

7th Heaven, and they were looking at old interviews with Jessica Beale. This is like way before she got together with Justin Timberlake, and she actually, because I guess Lance Bass's guest starred on 7th Heaven, and this is what she had to say back in the day about Insync. I know of them, of course, and I've heard of them, and I've heard the music, I don't think owning of their CDs. I'm not a huge fan, but I mean, cool, I guess. Burn! Burn, future husband. That's so fucking fun. I'd be like me finding a, like a recording Alexi just being like, yeah,

I really like, murder fist like stupid, right? Yeah, it's really bad. They're fine, I guess, but that's, I mean, it's kind of great, though. I love it. Okay, As I told you months, two months ago, this foreign-born late-night host had no place to go, which was going to pay him as much money as his network gig. So his whining and threatening about going home was just a money ploy, which his employers fell for and paid him a whole lot of money, which he will share none of with his writers and staff. James Corden. Yep, James Corden. You got it. Yeah, I heard he's supposed to be the worst, right? He is supposed to be the worst.

And, I mean, you know, cats and all. I didn't know that. I didn't know that he was really bad. I do like the singing in the car sometimes. I enjoy it. I think that, you know, but I do know someone that was a writer for him and knew that, and I do know that they said that it was a terrible job. Yeah.

And that is his one redeeming thing. I also do like the karaoke in the car thing. but yeah he signed a multi-million dollar deal last week with CBS to host the late-late show until 2022. Also, you just made me realize like I can't wait for cats the musical to happen, but mostly because like I can't wait for it to happen to all of the celebrities involved in the movie. You know what I mean? It's like everyone's going to have to have a reaction to it. Like, you know what I mean? Like James Corden's going to have to address it. it, Taylor Swift is going to have to address it.

Idris Elba is going to, you know, like, everybody's going to have to like... Talk about it. You mean because it's like, because it's bizarre or did something else happen? It's just because it looks like it's going to be such a dumpster fire. No, but that is so perfect. I can't believe people are mad about this or upset. I'm not, I'm excited. Cannot wait to see this.

It's so insane. And that is what a cat's musical should be. Is it supposed to be, like, tasteful? That's my taste. Like, my point with that is, if it was a tasteful cat musical, I would be so sad. Yeah, I'd be like, what is this? It should be ridiculous. Yes.

Yeah. I think it's perfect. Uh, okay, last one. Just in time for a new gig, there is a tape featuring a former, almost a list, mostly movie actress, all of you know, should know, who is doing lines of Coke in between taking on four men at once. Just in time for a new gig. Wait, what? Just in time for a new gig, taking on four. four people at once.

Yeah, so we're talking like already is kind of known to be trashy, and so this is just upping the ante perfectly. All right, we're upping the trashy. You mean she's fucking for them? Oh, yeah. And maybe they're fucking each other. I don't know what's going on in that room. I haven't seen the video.

I say that they are, if they're all consenting adults, they should just welcome roll with it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You'll definitely be like, oh, as soon as you, you know, know. But they are trashy and they're a movie actress? She is, yeah, like, she has not been A-list for a long time, but she's been in the news and always doing weird projects for years. Lindsay Lohan. Absolutely. She is doing, she is going to be a

judge on Australia's version of the masked singer. Masked singer. And it is, I am, I got to figure out a way to watch it. I am dying to watch this. So this is adapted from South Korea. It is a reality competition where three singers hide their identities and try to win a singing competition. Oh, you didn't watch the original? No. Oh, I'm sorry, not the original. The one that was in America earlier this year? No.

Who were the celebrity? Actually, maybe don't tell me. It's, oh, the weirdest part of the fact that the judges are such a weird mishamash of people. The whole thing is weird. But I will say, I watched almost all of it. I won't say that I watched it intently or I didn't skip through parts of it because I definitely did. But it is a weird reality show. Yes.

And this just seems so bizarre. And like Australia's version, like is Lindsay Lohan big in Australia? What is happening? I think she's big everywhere, baby. The show and Lindsay Lohan being on it are both dystopian concepts. Yes. The show itself makes it look like the end times for sure. Yes.

And that's why I'm not sludge-d-jy. shaving either, but it's like, of course. Yeah, I'm 24-7 concerned about Lindsay Lo-Hale. Yes. Very much so. And, you know, I think we want, I want to give her like a good for her as long as she's taking care of herself, but I don't know. I don't know that she is taking care of herself. I don't, I highly doubt she's

taking care of herself. Yeah, especially with, um, what is she doing with the like the Saudi prince, I believe for you? Yeah, there's something going on there too. And there's all that happening. And the Lohan club that had the reality show has been shut down already. All of it is shut down. The show is gone. The club is gone. Yeah.

You know, it's maybe she's throwing spaghetti at the wall. Maybe. Sticks. And she, you know what, her parents are garbage. So she didn't really have a lot to go on in the first place. She didn't have a whole lot. I want to shake her mom still, just being like, what did you do? Look at this.

Dina Lohan, unfortunately, is a garbage person. Remember when there were those photos of them, like tongue kissing? Yeah. Oh, right. They just do a bunch of drugs together because her mom, I think Dina really liked the celebrity that came along with having a famous daughter. But, you know, I don't know, the best for both of them in the future. Maybe that they will turn things around, and I think that they will.

Lindsay Lohan is like if Jinné never, like, figured it out, and like went back to home. Yeah, but I got too scared to jump off the, yeah, but got too scared to jump off the patio when Freebird was playing. Didn't decide to clean up her life after that. Just the song kept playing and she just kept on moving. I wish the best for Lindsay, but I can't say that I wish the best for her mom. I kind of want her mom to go each other.

Yeah, I like her, you know, I like her too. I just like her to lose all of her money and be left with nothing. It's really what I don't like wishing bad on eat people, but maybe just no more money. She gets no more money. no more drugs. Yeah, you can be a decent person and not have any money and have a decent life. Yes. For sure. Also, really looking forward to that biopic. Oh, we will get it someday, and I can't wait. I can't wait to watch it, and I don't know who's going to play her, but,

you know, maybe it'll be me. And you got to put that in the universe. It'll be a current teenage celebrity's child in a couple generations, I'm sure. Yeah, I will be way too old to player at that point. But thank you guys so much for joining us this week. And Natalie, welcome to the Fold. I love having you a part of this, and I think we're going to have a lot of fun. Yeah, thank you for having me. Great having you. I love you guys. My name is Jackie Zabrouse. You go follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. My name is Holden, McNeely. You can watch Jackie on Twitch on Friday night's on Twitch on Twitch.com forward slash Holdenators Ho, but also, hey, check out our Patreon.com forward slash page seven

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