Page 7 - Episode 340: Linguisticat

Episode Date: February 13, 2020

We recap the Oscars, share our love for Laura Dern, and this week in Blind Items, some particularly juicy awards show goss. Want to support the show? Follow us on Patreon page and get weekly bonus exclusive content! Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

doing double blast from the past because you better lose yourself in the music moment you already never let it go you only get one shot to not miss a chance to blow his opportunity comes once in a lifetime yes I am

JMNM and you can call me Jaminem Jemit Jem I have I mean I know that we're going to talk all about this but I cannot even begin to tell you how the bar I was in exploded when Eminem came out at the Oscars.

Everyone was singing. Everyone was confused. It was one of my greatest Oscar moments. Welcome to page seven. Welcome. Yes. Hello. My name is Holden,

but today you can call me homonym. Okay. Homonym. Which I don't even know what that is grammatically, but I know it's some sort of a word thing. It's like when something, two words have different meanings and sound the same. Homophom?

Amophones? Can I just say really quickly to Jackie Amali? I'm sorry. Why? For introducing hominem to the episode. Each of two or more words having the same spelling or pronunciation but different meanings and origins. Like phone. That's not.

I made that one up. What? So like it would be like if you were like, if you were like, oh, fuck it, I'm not going to be listening one damn hominim right now. Isle and Isle. Like the aisle of a grocery store and then like an aisle of. of an aisle. I'm gonna fly to an aisle of the Bahamas. An aisle of the grocery store?

You know, that type of thing. There weren't examples. This is so tragic. Molly's here. This is your fault. My name is Molly Nuffalo. And I hate hominemes. Oh.

Oh, yeah. You better not quit. Gotta get it. Got to go. Got to rip it. Got to rub it. Got to slap it. Got it.

Fuck. Your name is hold it in your head. here to say that I am impressive in a very fascinating way wow that's really nice see that's what my family does and during the holidays it's like oh I got to go rap and I go

my name is Jackie and I'm here to say which is not you know it's always fun that's a hominem joke that's a hominem joke I have to rap I have to wrap oh my god I'm a hominem master you're rapping a present while you're yes that's a hominem joke that's amazing I am a hominem master

Everyone calls me linguisticat. I'm like the new form of jellicle, but I'm really good at language things. Well, the barbs were out on Oscar night for cats. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Eminem's rapping abilities. So many things. The no host strikes again,

and yet the parasite wins. And yet the parasite wins. Now, Molly, have you seen parasite yet? I'm such a tragedy for hosting this show because I cannot watch anything longer than a 45 minute. Yeah, but that's the food stuff and everything. You know, that's what we need you for. I bring the food stuff and anybody who wants to talk about seasons one or two of you,

which has taken me a month and a half to get through. So I am a monster. I have not seen any of the movies. But from what I have read about Parasite, it sounds fucking awesome and it sounds like it is absolutely the thing that should have won. But no, I haven't seen shit. excited for you to one day get to watch it because I do think it's so up your alley and I'm pretty sure you're going to absolutely love it and I just love the fact the entire

film is subtitled every wall to wall and it won yeah I couldn't believe it I could kind of believe it because actually I think all but one thing was on that Twitter leak for the Oscars oh I meant to ask yeah all but I believe the animated short film was the only one on there that was incorrect. Because they said Klaus and it was Toy Story 4 because what I did is I bid Oh for feature. Yeah, so I was, I went to a bar restaurant to watch the Oscars and everyone was able to put in bids and then you would win stuff at the end.

So I put in only the nominations of people that quote unquote won according to the Oscar thing that they put out last week, what the Academy put out and I won a bottle of Wine. Awesome. So I won a bottle wine. So I actually, I had a couple of couples over from just the ones that lived in my area. That's why, Mommy, you were not invited. Oh, but you didn't invite Molly.

Yeah, that's very interesting. I didn't invite a lot of people. I don't go anywhere. Yeah. A, she was going to say. But that was the thing, especially with the Oscars. Now, I think you would enjoy an Oscar party, but you have, like, real world obligations. But other people, I was afraid to invite because some people just fucking hate the Oscars.

You know what I mean? Or are weird about it. Or are like, if I'm like, I'm having people over the Oscars. Not like everybody kind of feels obligated to watch the Super Bowl. But the Oscars really fall in this weird space where I'm like, I would literally preface my tax invite with like, I don't know if you give a flying fuck about the Oscars. But if you at all give a shit.

And one couple, Steve and Nikki Skulk Steve, who does the theme song for this very show. He was like, I don't really get a fuck about the Oscars, but I give a fuck about you guys. So we're coming over. Well, I think that is actually a very important thing, which is kind of sad, I think it's in the same vein that now people in their late 20s and 30s

and 40s, they do game nights, where I always preface if someone invites me over for a game night, I'm like, I am bad at games, I will figure out how to obnoxiously cheat, and I will be a nightmare. Would you still like me to come over with game night? And I have to say these things because I will make fun of the game. I am that person because I have a lot of anger issues when it comes to competing and things like that,

so I have to say it up front, where I feel like there should be some sort of checklist where it's like, are you going to talk through all of it? Because if you're going to talk through all of it, I don't want you at my Oscars party. I want to pay attention to some, but you have to have a, I like a 25% jockey ratio to 75% at least

watching it. Because we had some really good laughs. For me, the whole thing, except for this year, essentially, and there have been other years. Like, I loved that, I liked Moonlight a lot, yada, yada, yada, right? I've liked years when the best picture I felt like

there were years it was deserved. But for the most part, I wholeheartedly disagree with. who wins. And this time around it was a little different. But for me, it's just a celebration of all of the great films I've watched that year. And a like, oh, I need to see that. Oh, I need to see that.

You know, and making a little. And just, I just love sitting around with a bunch of people and just talking about these movies that we really loved this year. You know what I mean? And that's really what it is. And it was nice because I feel like it was a nice, it was like just two other couples. And everybody there had at least enough of it. an interest in film to really get excited about that.

I mean, like, the wintertime sucks, and who doesn't want an opportunity to, like, get together with friends, like, have snacks and watch TV. Our spread. Interesting TV together. Lexi put out. Molly, he keeps talking about the spread. Tell me about the spread. Let's see put out the craziest spread.

So she did cucumbers with salmon and cheese. Okay. We went to Astoria Beer and Cheese and picked up just, like, like, all these different to Laggio, this really good. It was kind of like a sharp cheddar. I fell in love with it. Just giant cheese spread. We had all the fixings we had, you know, but really nice stuff too.

We had the veggies and the dips and the Tziki and the Pita bread. Hell yeah. It was just this. Every surface was covered with something that you could choppy chomp on. And none of it was just like bag of chips. It was all like fucking high end. Are you saying there wasn't even one bag of chips? Not a single bag of chips.

And someone tried to enter with a bag of chips. And I made them eat them outside. in the cold. I said you finish these outside in the cold. I want to see the empty bag to show that you've eaten them in shame. I don't know, man. I love chips. Everything you just described, I want to eat it, but I also will eat any bag of chips that

anybody else. I love chips. I love chips. Every chip. It's the thing I have most in common with Whoopi Goldberg. She also loves chips. I love chips. I'm just very vanilla about my chips.

I don't like all the crazy flavors. I like just normal sea salt. Just a little. Maybe a barbecue. Uh-huh. Maybe you're what's wrong with you. What are you the problem? Yep, you're the problem.

Maybe you're right. Maybe you're correct. Maybe you should just expand yourself a little bit, you know? Yeah, I guess I could. You only get one shot sometimes, but sometimes you get a second shot. And you got to eat those chips, man. And that's what Eminem got when he came back because I didn't even realize he wasn't there for his award back in, what, 17 years ago.

17 years ago when he won for Lose Yourself from 8 Mile, I love it too whenever there was all these articles the next day they were like Eminem speaks out and why he performed at the Oscars and he's like because I didn't go the last time yeah it's like because they asked me to go

but that's great it's so funny because that he had to be like because everybody was like wait why are you here yeah it was we it was a pretty random it was so weird and I don't think people were like mad about it but people were just like literally why why there was a lot of stuff like that

It wasn't an anniversary year. It wasn't like, oh, it's been 20 years. Like, nothing. It was, there was no reason for it. But I was delighted. Yeah, I was like, all right. He looks old was something else that people seem to agree with. I don't think he looks that old.

He's older. Well, no, he doesn't look that old. It's just like, it's just weird to be like, you know, he's like what in his early 40s. Yeah, he's just like a, we were just in a time where, like, people who were like, the younger. people when we were young are not the youngest people anymore and that's weird especially watching rap get old like watching like this is like this is the first time we're seeing hip-hop artists actually become old people and it's strange yeah he reminded me of uncle daddy that we scream about in Riverdale Roundup because he made me think of it's like this looks like a young

man that just plastered a very nicely manicured beard onto someone uh-huh yeah right it was like right he's a mercenary yeah yeah similarly like you're aging just fine. You're like, you're not like a daddy, but you're like fine. But it also you do look like considerably older than you did when we were 17 years younger, which is also fine. And everyone looked confused. And I, you know what, I was against the shaming of Martin Scorsese because I know that older men, where not older men, older people, when they all say, oh, I'm just resting my eyes. That man was resting his eyes during the performance. Let him have his eyes have a rest for a moment.

He was falling asleep during him and his performance. I actually don't think it's him resting his eyes. If you look at it, the stage is like flashing these very bright lights at... He's resting his eyes. Right into his face. And I think he was just squinting and trying to block the light out while it was happening at him. He's resting his eyes. But I think the other looks of disgust were legitimate.

So, which is hilarious. Like, fucking, what's her name? Billy Eilish's look of disgust. When was the disgust? She looked at disgust at him. And then there was another part. I think it was when maybe Maya Rudolph and. Yes.

Yes. And Kristen Wigg were on the stage. We're singing their song, which I, by the way, am I allowed to say? I thought that it was kind of corny and maybe not everything they do is amazing. I just thought it was a little corny. I think that they're totally funny and fun and I enjoy them a lot. I think they're really funny up to the song. And then the song happened.

I was like, I don't know, actually. It was a little bit like everything on SNL. It was like 20% too long. Right. You know. It was a little. too long and I think that but I do love the both of them I love them yeah I love them I really love them and I really love and I'm always just like even when I want to be like a crank and I'm like ah I saw

them and I was like you you you get me you oh you guys are funny I love her Kristen Wiggs dress was nuts too I did not I was just saying me and Gideon were talking about how hot Kristen Wigg is and I was like and I love her dress and then it zoomed out from like the upper and I was like oh no oh no it was so I I was like from, you know, vagina level up, perfect. Right. And then down it just was a massacre. I just like that it was splish-splashy.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I liked how splishy-splashy. Those splishers are so in. Everybody has ruffles coming off of them. Right. I just feel like the ruffles, I don't know. They don't have. They need ridges.

Those ruffles need some ridgers. Oh my God, are we going back to Chip Talk? Are we going back to Chip-Talk? By the way, ruffles with ridges, probably my all-time favorite, put that in a French onion dip. Plain ruffles with French onion. Yes. Ooh, at the beach. You know what?

Favorite chip? Favorite chip? Weirdly at the beach. What's your favorite? Dill pickles chips. I love a dill pickle chip. And I love putting them on a sandwich because it's like you have pickles on the sandwich, but you also have the crunch of a chip. Yes, dill pickle chips, even better than salt and vinegar chips.

Oh, yes. And that's saying something. Because I love a song. Don't get me close to. You want to talk cats. Kathy levels, I get Kathy level around chips way more than I do around chocolate. Oh yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent.

That is my weakness. For me, and of course for me, nacho cheesier Doritos, my gold standard. Oh, my God, crouched Doritos. No. I like the purple bag, the spicy chili ones. Oh, none of that. Oh, yeah. You are such a plain Jane.

I am. I really am plain jane. I do not like any. I only like very, very. specific. I'm very vanilla. Sexually and the chips. Both things. You don't, I don't use to say this because April Reels Day is coming back around and I've changed since April Real's Day last year. I just thought about that. And I've changed. You told me, you told me I stunk because I smoked and I stopped smoking because of April fucking Reels Day. So it's

time for you to shake it up sexually holding. You said I was frozen, all right? I'm, I, that doesn't mean I have to get kinky, does it? I don't know. I think it's whatever makes you sexually unfrozen to you. Let it go. Let it go. I've been singing the song while we have sex. Well, that's great. Because then I feel like it makes Lexi feel like

she's Idina Manzell, or I guess that makes you, or makes Lexi feel like she's having sex with Idita Manzel, and that's also really great. She's the snow, she dresses up like the snowman. Olaf. Olaf. Sorry I brought it to this. What are we, where are we,

to ask all the stars were out today. We were talking about the Frozen Two song, which I feel like, not to be like this, I kind of felt like it was poor man's let it go. My entire Oscar party felt the exact same way. It was just like a weird, it was like to the T, a sequeled song to that song and that it was just like half as interesting.

But like how do you replicate whatever happened with Lettico? Like Lett Go just hits that thing where everybody from the age of like 1.5 to, you know, way past us is just like, well, this is the only song I want to hear and listen to forever, especially kids. Kids are obsessed with that song, regardless of their age, regardless of their gender, their other interests, whether they've seen Frozen. It's just like kids love that song and it's so cute and wonderful. And yeah, I was like, okay, this song is fine, but it's hard to replicate like the absolute perfection of let it go. 100%. What are you going to do about it?

You know what I mean? I do want to see the sequel. I have not seen it yet. but have no interest in that stupid song and that stupid song can go into song jail and be locked away for life. I thought it was fun that they had all the different overdubbing people sing.

That was like cute. That was cute. That was nice. That was nice. Although did you notice it into watching it? I felt like some of them, I feel like they either couldn't hear themselves or they couldn't hear each other

because I felt like some of them were hitting flat notes but not because they cannot sing. I feel like maybe they couldn't properly hear themselves and that that's got to suck. That has to just be so horrible. It's like, that's not even my fucking fault. That's not their fault. This was how I felt about the person who was whose job it was to talk to the orchestra

director and then immediately forgot his name. And it was like this awkward moment. And I was just like, man, knowing myself, if I had like two minutes to do something and I was like, all right, I have one job. I'm going to like do a little bit and then I'm going to introduce this fucking guy. And then I forget that guy's name. That would so happen. be so bad. It would so happen to me and I would be so mad. Even though it was totally fine and he was like very graceful about it.

Yes. It's just exactly what I would do and I was really feeling for that like just that minor mistake that you know is going to like keep you just slightly. It's not going to keep you up at night your whole life. But you're just going to be like, ah, fuck. Why did I do that? Right. Right. And what's not going to keep me up at night, but I did enjoy was the opening of the Oscars. Loved it. And I agree with you, Jackie. I feel like Steve Martin and Chris Rock would have been a. amazing co-hosts. Yeah, they were fun. They would have been great co-hosts. They would have been amazing. Yeah, they were fun. I feel like the tone was right. They were making fun of, you know, the whiteness and the menness without, like, it was, it was great.

It was a little bit classier than the Jervais thing, in other words. Like, they were, like, doing the. Yeah, their targets were right. My thing with Jervais is I think that his targets, who he's aims his jokes at aren't right. But they were aiming their jokes at the decisions made in the academy, which I think were right, you know. His stuff was fun. The Bezos is so funny when he said, Jeff Bezos is so rich.

He got divorced and he's still the richest man in the world. He saw a marriage story and thought it was a comedy. And I think that's really great. And then I left it when Steve Martin, which is such a dad joke. And it's like, do it the host's dad jokes when he said, oh my God, there's Brad Pitt. It's like looking in a mirror, which that's great. I turned everybody. I was just like, only Steve Martin could get away with that.

And it gets a huge laugh from everybody in the room. Yeah, perfect Steve Martin joke. And yeah, I love Chris Rock. I always will. I feel like, yeah, they were great. And, I mean, I agree with you. So, Jackie, I would love to hear you kind of explain your thoughts on the whole, like, musical opening. My thing is, my first instincts were I love everything Janelle Monet does more Janelle Monet always.

Also, did you see her dress to? Everything she wears. Yeah. She's my androgynous hero. She came out as non-binary a couple weeks ago. and like I'm so in love with watching her perform and I just love any opportunity to have a choreographed dance number is my is like great and so I was like remember when like Seth MacFarlane hosted

and sang a song called We Saw Your Boobes and now we have this this is so much better that's right I remember this one yeah so much better so I felt pretty fucking awesome about the opening But I liked it, but the weird part was definitely like, here are all the people we snubbed. Ha, ha ha. Yes, right. But then also, like, to have Joker and Jojo mixed in there as well, like in terms of the costume. I was very confused about that. It was just like, what are you trying to say here?

Also, this is now becoming the running. It's like the internet blows up every time at every award show now, essentially for like whatever they didn't, whoever they didn't include. And it's usually for pretty good reason. But now every award show tries to be like, ha ha ha, we realize that. Yeah, right, yeah. It's like, what is that? No, I hate that.

They make the change. Exactly. I love seeing Jill Monet and Billy Porter open it and rip it open. I think that's fucking awesome. But that's not enough. Yes. And putting them in the dancers, that is fun. And I guess at that point, they can't change anything.

But still, Queen and Slim was a great fucking movie. I haven't seen it yet. Dolomite is my name is a great movie. Dolomite is amazing. But it was weird to also have like the Joker dancers and stuff like that. And I guess they had to incorporate some of it. It was still a very fun number. But all of this just and the same with the, is the word interstitial?

I want to say interstition of like having like a DJ up there and doing like his shit. And having one like, no, no, no. We are diverse. We are inclusive. But that's not enough. Yes. You're just having people of all kinds on the stage to enter. entertain people is not enough.

They're not getting the accolades they deserve. Yeah, entertain all the white men that got nominated. That's right. Yeah. I could not agree more. It's like, oh, we snubbed people of color. We snubbed women over and over and over. We did it this year.

We did it years before. And every year people call us out on it. And so let's have Janelle Monet up there and, like, that'll fix everything. You know, and she's fucking flawless. She's great. And it's something. But it is, right. It's not addressing what the actual criticism is, which is like who gets recognized for the work that they do.

I will say this. One thing I did love about the results was that the Joker only won barring Joaquin Phoenix for Best Actor, only won one other award, and that was Best Original Score, and the winner was the first female to ever win in that category. Todd Phillips got shut out on all his other stuff. I think that's great. I was so excited that the, the main. thing that the Joker got was a first time female winner, which I think was like a really nice gesture after all of the shit I see in blind items about the way he treats women after

his whole woke thing and the Jojo Rabbit won for best screenplay of motherfucking comedy about Hitler as an imaginary friend. Love it. And that was a great example too, that that the person who won is an indigenous writer. First indigenous, yeah. He shattered out indigenous people. And so that's also an example of like, yeah, like, uh, great. of Gerwig wasn't nominated, but like, don't erase the fact that, like, it's super historic that an indigenous...

And parent of color, I mean, and then the whole parasite is. Yes. And also, can we just have a pause about, and do, like, a moment for Tyco, Waititi? Yes. He is good. I love him. I was like, oh, hello. Well, not in a sex way, but I also appreciate him.

I mean, yes, no, no, we do. I do also appreciate him in what he is doing. and the fact that, you know, we talked about this, I think that we talked about this or on talking TV that, you know, he wouldn't get the funding to make Jojo Rabbit if essentially they were like, well, you have to play him. Right, he couldn't like get anyone.

And he couldn't find someone to properly do it. So he did it himself. That is a man that is a making moves. I love him, I love him, I love him, and I just, oh, he perfectly quaffed hair. Yes. Oh, I just want to rub him on his arms. You know what I mean?

Absolutely. And call him Papa. I don't want to call him Daddy. I want to call him Papa. I just really like the Thor Ragnarok. And I also really... I love what we do in the shadows. It's really good.

Oh, my God, so good. But I understand how he could be very sexually appealing, I feel like, in a lot of ways. He's quite handsome. And on the opposite end of that, I think it's time we talk about how gelical the cats were. All right.

Because I just, you know, No, I completely understand the whole entire visual effects community that is now piss the fuck off for how they, like, how they brought up the special effects nomination. I, yeah, kind of, but I also chalk this one up to, okay, but we got to be able to make jokes sometimes. But you know what? Of course. And I think everybody needs to chill and fuck out. But they threw them under the bus. They did, but I mean, the movie, you know.

I don't know. My thing is, honestly, and I'm sorry to be so mean, but two of the worst things about that movie were Rebel Wilson and James Gordon. Yes. Yeah, that is true. That grates me a little bit. To have them be like, oh, it was the fault of the visual effects people. Right.

Like, no, no, no. It's because you're obnoxious. Like, yes, also the visual effects were a waking nightmare. But you, you, you, you, the fault lays at your feet. And I feel like that. Your paws. Yes. And your human boss.

Your bombs. And so I feel like it was a little bit rich for them. If it was like Idris Elba being like, oh, Katz was kind of bad. It would be like, yeah, nobody's holding it against you. But I am holding it against those two. That's what makes it less palatable. It's just funny. I go back and forth with it because I see a big statement from the visual effects bill.

I'm like, guys, it was a joke. Everything's fine. We get it. I'm sure, though, after all this, that they're probably just butt hurt and for good reason because they're all like, it's a visual effects while. It's a visual effect. Right. The whole movie is not good.

It's not just that. It broke down for an hour and ten minutes. Every fucking bat shit, cat shit, rather thing going on in that movie. And it's every inch of it is what makes it so spectacularly fucking terrible. There is nothing that you could fit. There's no one thing you could fix in that movie and have it be better. No. Well, and that's what the visual effects society came out and said.

They said, the best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly. And I think that alone, I mean, that is true. You right. You ain't wrong about it. But I have to, I wonder, can you imagine someone coming at you for a bit and being like, okay, go for like three hours. Get your makeup done. Get your hair done.

Get into this dress. Come to the Oscars. We're going to wipe it all off. And we're going to put your back in the cat's makeup. It's like, maybe that this is the punishment they deserve. You know what I mean? Like maybe that's what they get. So now they have been publicly shamed of like, yes, Rebel Wilson, you looked amazing.

And then you immediately had to have it all taken off to be put back into your purgatory costume. And I think that is really, now it's done. Now I feel like it can be settled. To their credit, as much as I don't want to give them credit, I do think when they started like batting the microphone with their paws, it was very funny. Get in who hasn't seen cats. He thought about who, but who loves cats the animal. He was just like absolutely dying. And I was like scowling at him.

I was like, it's not even part of the joke of the movie. They don't even act like cats in the movie. I love how, I love the amount of emotional opinions all of us had in different ways towards that five-minute segment of the award. Very upset. I had to talk about it. It was a very loaded. It was a very loaded moment.

There was a lot going on. Also, I can't believe that this was Brad Pitt's first acting Oscar. I know. I didn't even realize that. Yeah. And I cannot help but be charmed by that guy. Yeah, he's great. Mama Mia, here I come again.

I love right now he's just very publicly sober, and there's so many really touching things that go along with that. Who did he buddy up? Who got him up? Bradley Cooper. Bradley Cooper got him off the sauce. Yes, they helped each other remain sober, and that's, and it was such a huge wide open thing for him with, you know,

he was really ripped apart when it came down to the Angelina Jolie, divorce and a lot of it came down to the fact that he drank too much, or according to Angelina Jolie, and also did too many drugs. And now he's sober and he's really trying to turn it all around. And for someone to, I mean, he kept up, he's kept up his career this entire time. And now the fact that he's really zoned in on taking care of himself and not just in a working out kind of way, but taking care of his mental health is what it seems, that now he can actually blossom. And I hate to use the word blossom, but you know what I mean? Yeah, wear funny hats and dance around.

And he's got a best friend named six, and they kiss sometimes. I'm always here for a blossom joke, man. Also, I just, congratulations to Leonardo DiCaprio for finally going public with his new relationship to his new 22-year-old model girlfriend. I just really think that's wonderful. So brave. He didn't let her take pictures with him on the red car. but he did let her sit by him in the awards ceremony. That's very sweet.

22 years old. Very brave. You know, it's a shame. She's of age. It is a consensual relationship. Have you been? Sure. Of course.

But that's, lately. There is a way that you can be creepy as fuck while still dating somebody who's not technically illegal to date. And guys in their 40s who date 28-year-olds tend to be creepy. And it is not, as a serious, behavior, which it is of Leo's. And listen, did I want to date Leonardo DiCaprio my entire life since the year of 1997? Yes.

Would I still? Yes. But also, is he obvious? I'm way too old for him at this point. You're way too old for him. Way too old. And I was in sixth grade when I fell in love with Leo DiCaprio. So the guy needs to date people slightly closer to his day.

Jackie, I know you can't see this, but I just want to show you this graph really quick of Leonardo DiCaprio in comparison to. to the different age cutoffs of all the women he's been with. He keeps getting older and they stay the same age. 25 is his age limit for girlfriends and that has gone all the way through into his 40s.

And of course now he's started anew so he's gone through one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight different, I believe all models and all of them start as early as 18 years old and only get as old as 25 before he starts over. It's not okay. He resets the timeline like a superhero comic book movie.

And listen, I also have dated in my 20s. I am no stranger to being a young woman in your 20s and being like, this guy in his 40s is probably dating me for all my merits. And I don't think it's always the case. But I will say you used to wear all of your merits on your Girl Scout costume. That would all be bad. I have dated. I have dated much younger than me

And I have regretted it So that is the thing I think it just, you know, it just depends on your It depends on your own story That you're right for yourself And what fits with what you're doing We need here at page seven Except all approaches to life

And we love all people And then do you know who I especially love Laura fucking darned Everybody can we just Can we just? I love her I love her She deserves everything that she ever gets in this world. She just, I truly believe she is just a very good person.

And I just, I always wish her the best. She looks great. She's so talented. She has an amazing relationship with her kids. She dates really hot dudes. Go for ha, good for a hog, go on. Yeah. And she was probably the best part of marriage story.

Yeah. I could go with that. I loved her in Marriage Story. Yeah, too. loved her in everything pretty much that I've ever, really that I've ever seen her, but lately she's been on a tear. Yeah. Like her, I know they're kind of the same character, but her character in Big Little Lies as well

as just show stopping to me. Like I think that she's the best part of that show too. Yeah. Just everything she's on lately, I just, I'm like, man, I feel like she hit, she like evolved like a Pokemon or something acting wise, like over the past five years, six years. You know what I mean? And she's another Brad Pitt type where she was really hot when she was young. And the way that she is aging is in, like, how is she getting exponentially hotter as she gets older?

Yeah. I don't, I mean, I think maybe it's just the wash of happiness. I don't know what it is, but she looks, and I'm sure, whatever, maybe, you know, maybe it's peels. Maybe she has chemical peels. I don't know. She looks great. She looks great, but not in like a creepy you're trying to not look your age way. No.

No, she is aging. And that's why I was just blown away that over the weekend, it was also the 2020 Film Independent Spirit Awards that was here in SoCal. And Aubrey Plaza was the host of the night. And did you look at this? Yes. I said, you guys. So, Aubrey Plaza brought out the gay men's chorus of Los Angeles

to sing about the, quote, gayest moments in films that you may not have realized were gay. And part of it, because it's like, they talk about Jennifer Lopez, pole dancing to Fiona Apple and hustlers, Frank Ocean's music and waves, and Renee Zellweger's press tour for Judy just as a whole. But then they do the whole part of it for just Laura Dern, indifferent. And in the actual, like, video of it, they're showing all these different parts of Laura Dern's career. And they're just celebrating Laura Dern. And Laura Dern's reaction to it, because she didn't know it was coming, was just standing up and she was dancing to them, like singing this amazing song to her.

It's a wonderful moment. Please look it up. It's so fun. Spirit Awards, Gay Men's Choir of Los Angeles. They're just singing Laura Dern, Laura Dern, Laura Dern over and over and over. And she's like, as it becomes clear to her that like the whole rest of the song is going to be about her.

She's just like so happy. And it is absolute like total joy. It's so worth watching. I love her so much. I love her so much. Her speech was really great. heartfelt, really not insane and all over the place like Renee Zellwiggers and Joaquin Phoenix is pretty rich. Pretty ranger. I mean, let us. Let us. Wachin Phoenix, also,

I felt spiritually attacked by Joaquin Phoenix's move against the milk industry. I understand. Put the Zabrowski's on blast there. I felt that my house of Zabrowski was being attacked. Right. And I understand. I get it. I'm aware of the fact that it is not good, but I love my milk. And I know your house, SIGIL, of course, is a cow drinking a glass of its own milk, which I love. Because it's power, because it's a power symbol of, yes, you milk me, but I drink my own pus.

Yeah. What do you think we're doing right now? Every time I listen to like an audio book that I've done, you know, I'm drinking my own pus. And it's just to make me as a cow stronger. And I noticed that you are pressing your hand against your breast while you say that. My breast, because milk me, I'll drink it. Right. I'm the only milk producer of the three of us.

Right. So I. Molly, I want to produce milk. You can someday. There you go. Someday you think so. You think I got milk in there too for me? I think you probably got the pipe work in there.

I think you have almost a frightening amount of milk. Oh, just waiting to be juiced. I am pert and ready to be juiced. just like a mama cow Zabrowski and I the rambling So if we're going to talk about Joaquin Phoenix We should talk about Speaking of rambling

I can't stop talking about your milk press And there is like such a Like I'm totally here And extremely receptive to arguments about You know Responsible consumption of Or lack of consumption of animal products And like the environment and stuff

But it was just Joaquin Phoenix is just not the guy It's not really... It's a little shoehorned in. It was like, yeah, we're talking about, like, justice. He kind of had to hit all of the beats of a, quote, quote, like, perfect Oscar speech. Yeah, both of them. And it ended up making no sense.

They're just both disnaming issues. They're like immigration. But, like, they're not saying anything about immigration. Are they saying that, like, we live in a time when, like, this is what's happening to immigrants and this is what I believe? No, they're just like, immigration, people lifting up. They're just, like, staying. Yeah, just saying buzzword. And that is...

Buzzwords. And that is why... And I do think that is why Hollywood gets this rap of being like these fucking, you know, people who like get up on their pedestal and congratulate themselves with their big high and mighty thing. You know what I mean? I get that.

That's why. It's like you've got to, if you're going to make a statement... Know what you're saying. You don't have to make a statement every time you get up there and B, if you are, yeah, maybe say one specific thing. And like, this is also a good. to the point of like who gets nominated because some people when they win they actually have something to say yes right like when lina waith won the emmy years ago she like really had

something to say about being like i am a queer person of color and nobody like me wins these awards and so i have something to say about it right right but then when like renezel wigger on wakene phoenix when they're just like i also have something to say immigration five minutes later i kept looking at the time. I was watching the Renee Zellweger thing on my phone and I kept looking like how much time is left. There is no and I'm being stunned that there was still like two and a half minutes left. I just

wonder if she had taken something to chill out and maybe it had like hit her right before she got on stage. You know what I mean? I think maybe she had whatever Diane Keaton was having. Heyo. She's been a little out of it as well and I love it. She looks great though. I love her. And this is the quote from the Renee Zelligerer. I have to

say that this past year of conversation celebrated Judy Garland across genders and I'm sorry it's across generations and across cultures has been a really cool reminder that our heroes unite us. That's great. No, the best among us who inspire us to find the best in ourselves. They unite us. When we look to our heroes, we agree and that matters. It's these names.

Neil Armstrong, Sally Ride, Dolores Werta, Venus and Serena. Selena. Bob Dylan. Scorsese. Bob Tilley. Fred Rogers. Harriet Tubman. Which at least

Harrodumman makes sense. I get it. It's like we didn't start the fire. Yeah, but Scorsese and Harry and Tubman aren't really. Yeah. Yeah, it really is. Like, Harriet Tubman, Salon, Salon, Salon,

why are we naming Taylor's Hurt? Why are we naming? Why are we just naming names right now? Renee, I will say sidebar. I did see Judy before the Oscars, and she is amazing. She's great in it. She's great in it.

She's great a. She made me cry at the end of that movie. I didn't love, love the movie, but I loved her in that movie. And, yeah, but man, get it to get. Give a speech about Judy Garland, man. Yeah, or be real. Or just be real. Be yourself.

Yeah, or just like, thank you. I don't know what. I'm just, I ramble. I don't know. Thank you for the people who may help make this possible. But like, if you want to say something, you just won for Judy, you can be like, oh, you know what? Hollywood treated Judy Garland and really fucked up way.

Here's two things that I could say about that. Yeah. Thank you and good night. Let's talk about the institutionalized fucking borderline physical abuse put on women to lose weight and look a certain way for Hollywood films that we displayed in this movie. Oh my God, did I just say the sentence? Did I just say the thing? Holden, Olden, McNeely, speechwriter for Renee Zeller.

Right? Yeah. That's the problem. But, you know, maybe it just comes down to like she really didn't think she was going to win. And she had a couple of cocktails before. I mean, which I would get. I mean, I would totally do the same thing, but like. Then I would admit that.

Then I'd just be like, I don't know what to say. Yeah, her speech makes zero fucking. So much more charming. What does Venus and Serena and Selina meet? What the fuck? What is she saying? With Bob Dylan. Venusarina.

And Scorsese, throw it Scorsese in there. Throw Scorsese in there because she probably wants to be in this next fucking movie. Which, yeah, of course. Who doesn't want to be in a Scorsese movie? And then, yeah, and then Joaquin was like talking about the domination of all things. And I was like with him for a second. And then we, yeah. Well, he made a thinly veiled statement.

about cancel culture too. Yeah, right. Which honestly, I'm not necessarily against, but in light of the fact that he was in the Todd Phillips movie of the bunch, I'm like, maybe not from you right now, dude. Yes. Yeah.

Maybe not from you right now. Yes, exactly. It's just like, you know, I have no problem with celebrities making statements. I know some people are like, it's not the time of the place. But at least if you're going to make a statement, know what you're saying.

Yeah, to me it's like I err on the side of curbing it. I would love to see one or two well-said statements about the world in a speech in an award show. But I hate, there was one Emmys like two or three years ago where it really seemed like everybody got a press release saying, if you get up there, you really need to make some comment about some political statement. It was just like, guys, you don't have to. You know what I mean? But again, it's like if you, you know, like I was saying before, it's like if you have something to say, you're going to hear more interesting things. said from people who are like not the people who get to win this shit all the time.

Yeah. You know, and like that's why like Tyco YTT had like something to say. Like it matters that I am an indigenous writer and this is the first. Yeah. Like that is not him being just like, I'm gonna like say eight names. Say eight names. You know, like. People have nothing to do with each other.

No. What does any of that have to do with any of that? And that's why I feel like the the kind of like super lazy like, What I feel is like a lazy critique of like, wokeness doesn't actually, it's like, well, let's talk about what we're complaining about. Because what, like, wokeness could be like, oh, should we have to nominate people of color? And it's like, no, no, no, that's, we should do that. And it's good that, like, when people of color win, they call it out and they say it.

And, like, you know. But you know what it is? It's lazy statements of wokeness suck, but lazy wokeness sucks. Yeah, exactly. That's both sides to that point. Because that also doesn't change anything. Right. Again, so what we were saying about this whole show.

Yeah. And the opening, I think, is the same kind of thing we're getting at. Again, it feels like it's like, even though they put a lot of energy into that dance number, I'm not going to say they didn't. But, you know, the whole kind of serving it up feels like lazy wokeness. I feel like it's cool of Janelle Monet to be like, it's Black History Month and I'm a queer black woman. Like, I don't think that was lazy on her part. But in terms of like. The Oscar's decision to open with that as a way to be like, ha-ha, see, we like kind of get it.

Yeah, exactly. Well, and also did not have a whole. host so what you instead do is make it just as long by not having oaths because they're like, all right, well, we're going to ask somebody that also wasn't nominated to introduce another people that were not nominated for them to introduce. It's like, well, at least make a Joe or like do something in between. It's just lazy. Yeah.

Overall, it is lazy. Yeah, I think it's that kind of stuff. There you go. We figured it out. We unpacked it. We pulled a big old book bag out that was labeled Oscars and we just zipped it up and we just unpacked it, Badges. Hell yeah.

You know what's not? lazy, simultaneous interpretation of two languages, which is one of my favorite things about parasite winning, watching the interpreter, and like reading about the difference between translation and interpretation and like the skills that go into being an interpreter. And I was just like absolutely loving it. I was like, this is so awesome. You know what I also loved? How hammered they got afterwards.

Oh my God, they partied until five o'clock in the morning. To be fair, to be fair, though. They didn't get to the Korean restaurant until, 245 in the morning. And they're also on a different time zone as well right now because they just got it. But I knew he was going to get hammered because even in his speech he's just like, time to drink. I also loved and I do believe this when he said this that afterwards he was like when

I won for best, it's international now, right? International films. When I won, it used to be best foreign language film. Foreign language film now is best international. Because like English speaking films would win or be nominated. but he said like when he won that award, he was like, ah, all right, my work's done here tonight. I'm just going to sit back, relax,

and enjoy the rest of the show, having no idea he was going to continue to fucking sweep. Yeah, that's, which is so cool. Yep, they won best original, no, he was up for, no, he won best original screenplay, best international feature, best director, and best picture. And as someone that, again, no spoilers, I went into Parasite, not knowing anything about it,

and I was, my mouth was agape the entire time. I didn't know what it was. was about, I know anything about it, and it shocked me and delighted me. Yeah, fantastic stuff. So they went to this, now I want to go to Soban, Los Angeles, which is like the place in Ktown that they went to that he, I think, has made, like, a relationship with the owner that they agreed to stay open. Like, Jennifer Pack knew that they were coming there.

And, of course, I hope that this restaurant is now exploding because it must. It must. It must. It only seats 30. You got to, I mean, if you win the best picture, Oscar, you got to stay out until at least five in the morning. You're really going to look at the clock and be like, oh, it's three. We've been here for an hour. Let's go home.

And you know that that is the good shit, by the way, because they had already gotten their pictures taken, having eaten there, like, a week or so before. Oh, yeah. So they came back. That's awesome. But yeah, also going back to your point, Molly, I think that's the funniest thing about this. They parted until 5 a.m. Well, the Oscars didn't get done until, like, X, Y, they didn't get there until 3 in the morning. They were only there for a couple hours.

Yeah, you better believe I'm partying at least till the sun comes up. Dude, you're not going to sleep that night. You're not going to sleep that night? No, but although it does end at 8 p.m. here. That's right. I forgot about that. So you're right about it. So, yeah, I did. So they probably were partying before.

They probably went to either, you know, Vanity Fair, went to one of the award ceremony parties, and then went to go eat because apparently he had not, Bong Joon Ho had not eaten all day. So that's why he's like, I want all of it. I want to eat, eat, eat, eat. Which they must have been hammered if they hadn't eaten all day.

They must have been hammered. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh, my God, I would have loved to be around them. Just not understanding a fucking word they were saying. No, no, it's just been like, yeah, I keep eating. Don't keep drinking. I don't care.

That food, dude, Korean is very good food. We have a really good nearby here, actually. There's a really good Korean fried chicken spot, which, oh, yeah. It's really. I went there with Jake after I was in the bruiser recording one time, and it was a yummy. And one more thing that we need to scream about because I know that I'm sure you guys immediately realized it.

I thought that Billy Eilish really killed her singing during the in-memorium segment. I thought that she did a very, like she and her brother did a very beautiful job. But no Luke Perry, no Sid Haig, no. And Karen Boyce, who I followed this, the journey of this very untimely death of a very young actor. And it's like, they should have been represented.

Now I'm aware of the fact. So essentially the Academy came out. and said, well, you know, we don't really have all the time in the world to put all the people in it. We put them on the website in Memorium. But Luke Perry was in once upon a time in Hollywood. Yeah, that's a weird. Sid Hague was a huge actor in the horror community. And Cameron Boyce, who was just like, it was a young, you know, like, he's a young kid that was a Disney star that a lot of younger people know. Luke Perry has been a famous actor for, what, 30 years?

He makes no sense. I will say the Oscars have traditionally given zero respect to horror films. To the horror community. They rarely get nominated. Like, I think Exorcist, it's like that and like... And that and get out. Get out. You know, it's like they've got...

But that's another thing that I have a problem with, that the horror community is such a huge part of this cinematic fucking experience. And the fact that it's never really included in anything. And there's a lot of them insane... horror out there. As someone that is a huge horror fan, I follow it closely. Well, and this year, people were upset that Lupita didn't get nominated for

for... Oh, for us. For us. That might have been a victim of just being too early in the year. Maybe. Like, sometimes that happens. I feel like... Maybe. Because I feel like Midsummer was so damn good, too. I didn't love us, but she was incredible in us. She was incredible in us. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. A same with Judy,

where I thought Renee Zellwecker did a great job. as Judy. I wouldn't see Judy again. I thought that I enjoyed the movie. Same with us where I enjoyed the movie, but Lupita was insane in it. Yeah, she's great. Ridiculous. Yeah, sometimes, honestly, I think when it comes to us, a lot of times it's just a victim, not only is it a horror film, but a victim of just coming out way too early in the year. And when voting comes around, it's just like no one remembers, you know what I mean? No one remembers. And also this is a story that just came out This is nothing to do with the Oscars,

but I feel that I need to bring it up. Rick Moranis is returning to this. Did you see that? He's coming back for Honey. I shrug the kids reboot. I'm so excited. I love Rick Moranis so much. And I just noticed it was right before we started recording.

I was like, that makes me so happy. It's going to be on Disney Plus, which again makes me happy that I'm still paying for it for some fucking reason. And now I'm going to, of course, hold on to it because that's exactly what they want. That's exactly.

what they want us to do. You're scary. I've been angry about Disney Blunts and the fact that I keep paying for it. Every time it gets taken out of my account, I'm just like, I'm not using this enough. But then it's things like this where I'm like, well, I want to watch Rick Moranis come back

because I think that everyone at least, if you have looked on the internet, it is aware of the meme that Rick Moranis' wife had died and he stepped back from acting to take care of his children to be a father of his children. And so now the fact that he's back, and I have always had a thing for Rick Moranis because he's my good nebish. I need a love, I love a nebish.

And I love him. I love him. And I'm very excited. So I hope that you guys are excited as well. Yeah, I am really excited personally. Molly, indifferent? You know, I don't think I've seen the Honey I Shruck the kid's franchise since I was a kid. And it was just never one of those ones that like really, that I really latch.

I have a lifelong fear of scorpions because of that movie. Yeah. I get it. I have a lifelong fear of scorpions because of hook. Oh, the boo box. The boo box. Boo. Not the boobox.

See, I love him. I'm more of a little shop of horror, spaceballs forever love. Fucking Ghostbusters, dude. Ghostbusters, yeah. Yeah. But Little Shop of Horrors, oh my God. My soul, I always wanted to be Audrey. And if someone could just put me into a production of it, I'll go fucking somewhere

that's green. And I'm going to be so good at it. Put me in a tiny dress. Just so frightening. I love musical. I want to be in a musical. Don't act all soft. You were just being scary and you know it, okay? I know, but I want to be in a musical. I want to take singing lessons. I want to be in a musical. I want to be the Gene Kelly to you or Frank Sinatra. I love that. This is perfect. I was just telling Molly about this before we started recording because I want to start taking tap dancing classes, but I'm scared to go alone because I'm not very, I'm not going to be good at it. And I need a friend to go with me and no one will go with me to tap dancing classes.

And I am that friend and I also want to do tap dancing and I want to get, I want to like move my body again after having two kids and tap dancing is something I've always wanted to do. And there are, I have looked at up. There are tap dancing classes in like Midtown Manhattan, but I want, what you're describing is like tap aerobics and I want to go with you. and I'm very sad that we both share this dream and that we live on opposite coats. Look, if you guys end up finally getting this together, can you please promise me to wear the bumblebee costume

from the Blind Melon music video while you do that and take a lot of pictures? You would be so good in it. You would be really perfect for it. You're going to have to gain weight, and I think of that actually would be good for you and your brand. Yeah, that'd be fun. Oh, let's make music videos.

together, Molly? Okay, I love music videos. You would have really loved it because the place that I wanted to take it with the first lessons of the first week, they were only tap dancing to Greece songs, and I thought about the two of us tap dancing to Greece songs and how funny

it would be. I want to just stand next to each other being like, we go together like ta-la-la-la-la-da-la-da. But it won't be that. It'll be you guys like the first class. panting out. They'll be like exhausted and falling down and like just getting frustrated.

It's not going to be fun and I know I'm not going to be good at it. But in turn, what I've been doing instead is pretending like I'm going to tap dancing classes. And I've been tap dancing, quote unquote, a lot around my house and really just annoying everyone around me by pretending to be a tap dancer. Well, I'll give you a real deep cut right here since we were talking about Judy Garland. She is in a movie with Gene Kelly called. called For Me and My Gal, which if you want to watch a Judy Garland movie where she's fantastic,

and there's a lot of tap dancing. For me and my gal is a movie about vaudeville and World War I, and it is one of my top four Gene Kelly movies. Ooh, for me and my gal. I imagine they sing that a lot in it. They sure do. That's exactly how it goes to. All right, I'll watch it.

And also during this time, she could not sleep because the studio kept her hopped up with diet pills to the point where she would sleep. Man, could she tap dance? But boys, could she dance? And fit through a picket fence. Literally just slide through it. And on that note, it's time for the list, everybody.

Who's on the list? Jackie, got to have that list. Speaking of Disney Plus, today we have 19 wild Disney movie facts that honestly made my jaw drop. That's me dropping my jaw. Number one, Adriana Casillotti was only paid $20 a day to provide the voice for Snow White. I mean, to be fair, at that time, if you adjust it, of course, it comes out to a million dollars.

Adjusted for inflation, that's about $355 per day and $17,000 overall. But still, you know, isn't that interesting how money. changes. It is fascinating. The economy and the inner workings of it is a nonstop barn burner of entertainment. Well, did you know that Radio City Music Hall in New York had to re-apolster its seats in the giant theater because so many children kept peeing their pants when the witch came on screen in Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Wow. That's disgusting. That's a lot of piss. That's going to really smell like piss in there. Yeah.

How do you get that piss smell out? I mean, re-apulster, I guess, first of all. You know what I mean? Yeah. Now, this fact... This fact... Think about Jackie's pit.

But the piss, like, 50, what, 60-year-old piss? Yeah, right? Just a bunch of kids. Piss of people who have grown their entire lives and are now elders. And yeah, and they're thinking about how much this that they put in that Radio City Music Hall because if you got to practice, practice, practice guys, did you know that when creating Little Mermaid animators based Ariel's appearance on Alyssa Milano? Ooh.

Haba, Bubba. In an interview, Milano revealed that she didn't even know Disney did this until a year after the movie was released. Disney drew Ariel's face from pictures of me. This is something I didn't know while it was going on. And then a year after the film came out, they asked me to do sort of a making of behind the scenes special on it, and they told me then, which I thought was really cool. And I think that that is a really nice way of saying,

they should have owed me lots and lots of money to do that. Right? I guess so, yeah. Yeah, I suppose. I don't really know what the litigation is on taking someone's visage. Maybe that's just because I've been living in Prince World in my head, And in my head, knowing that the 90s into the 2000s Prince would have sued Disney for doing something like that

because they even used his visage. And I feel like, you know, you could probably do that, especially against such a King Kong, such as Disney. Yeah. Well, but they got the lawyers, bra. Yeah, they got the lawyers bra. And so does Tom Cruise, who is the inspiration for Aladdin's appearance. That's odd.

Tom Cruise? Maybe a sort of person that was of the decision. of the character would be more of a better choice. Yeah, and I think, well, apparently, Diamond and, according to the documentary, Diamond in the Rough, The Making of Aladdin, Michael J. Fox was originally the inspiration for Aladdin, but animators later switched to Tom Cruise. I think that actually, throw it out there,

Aladdin is hotter than Tom Cruise. Aladdin doesn't look anything like Tom Cruise. No. I've always been really, I've always found it very jarring that he's voiced by Steve from Full House. Yes. Oh, yeah, because of all the full house. Willows episodes where he played Aladdin. Yes.

But he also did the voice of Aladdin. Did you know that Jody Benson recorded part of your world in a dark, isolated sound booth to help produce a more lonely and intimate tone in her voice that Ariel would be feeling in the scene? Yes, they would also release a single bat into the room every half an hour just to keep on her fucking toes. Look at the fins. They don't get too far. Wish I could be

There are at least 10 bats in here I think we're good on the bat They're hungry by the way They need they're asking for food Donnie Dunnigan who provided the voice of Bambi Was a high-ranking Marine But refused to tell anyone about his voiceover work In fear that they'd call him Major Bambi

In an interview Dunnigan said I never said a word to anybody about Bambi The image in people's minds of Bambi was of a little frail deer, and I am a commander in the Marine Corps boot camp. I just thought to myself, I don't think I want all these young Marines to call myself Major Bambi, and I kept my mouth shut. You know what? I get it. You know what? I don't get it, because showing the strength to lose your mother at such a young age and to be able to thrive and live on and find happiness in this stupid-ass fucking rip-off of a world.

That's some real strength right there, done again. If Bambi was made now, if Bambi was made now, I would feel that way. But baby was made so long ago that I feel like things were a little bit different back then. Everybody's going to call me a baby dear from a whole little. Oh, I don't know, baby deer. I'm a big old Marine, Daddy. Oh, they all call me dead mother boy, which is creep, which is, that is very mean. That's horrible.

That is much worse. This I'm actually very sad about. John Candy was supposed to play Red Feather, a wise-cracking turkey in Pocahontas. But after his untimely death, they decided to cut the character completely. And that's where Miko came in. Now, I loved me some fucking Miko.

But I really think I would have enjoyed John Candy playing a turkey. He would have been so good. I love a turkey. You do love a turkey. I love a turkey. Bobby Driscoll I don't know why Molly and I've been so weird with this list

You guys hate the list I think it's very interesting It's literally that sketch where Chris Fraule And Adam Sandler are sitting and they're the old couple And he's like, look, Addy, this week at this restaurant And then Adam Sandler's just like, Lord, take me now. Give me cancer now, God. I think that these are very interesting facts.

I was happy with the list this week. He goes like, look at me. I've had a listen. I find very interesting. Ravioli, holy canola. There could have been a turkey in Pocahontas. There could have been a turkey in Pocahontas. Saying it with different inflections isn't going to change the interest that we have for the factoid.

Yeah, I hope you feel bad because Bobby Driscoll, who voiced Peter Pan, served as the model for the character, died penniless, unclaimed and unidentified in an abeyless. abandoned apartment building at the age of 31. Damn, dude. So think about that when you're not interested in my fucking trip. Why would I do that? I didn't know that the Princess Diaries was actually produced by Whitney Houston. More like Princess Diaries, am I right? Fucking shit on that.

There's no diarrhea in the movie. And the last one, I swear in that you guys never have to hear another word from me ever again. because this is kind of cute. Wayne Allwine and Russie Taylor, who provided the voices for Mickey and Minnie Mouse, were married in real life. They married each other in 1991 and stayed together until Allwine's death in 2009.

So we're going out with a panger, guys. I was going to ask a clarifying question, but I don't even need to ask my question. Yeah, you know what? Damn, that news was so, that last. Last Listical was so sad that things have darkened upon my world. Oh, no. Am I God?

Am I demon? What has become of me? What is it? Help me. No. Somebody. Please, I think I'm going. Blind.

Blind. Items. Oh, we can't see them. Well, nor can I. But yet I can. Interesting. Whoa. You know, we got some Oscar-E blind items.

we have one non-Oscoree blind item. We've got, you know, it's kind of fun. Okay, switch it up. All right. The feud between these long-time acting slash writing slash producing partners continues. They were supposed to do an event this week, but the big shot out of the pair bailed,

saying he was too busy for that type of thing any longer. He is turning into a pretentious Hollywood A-hole. These two are known for a comedy show, by the way. And one got really big after it. Not David Cross and Bob Odenkirk. No, but still. Similar, like, lane. Similar lane.

Whoa. Not John Mullaney and Nick Kroll, because they're both doing. No, I love them so much. Not them. Give us more hints. A funny show. Comedy show on Comedy Central,

acting, writing, producing partners. But one went on to be a big deal. Not Dave Chappelle and Neil Brennan? No. One of them went on to be a big deal in more of a film. Not Alana and Abbey. No, in a film sense.

I probably wouldn't do Alana and Abby because I like see a lot of from time to time. We enjoy, yeah, we enjoy both of them. I was like, they like each other. What are you talking about? I would do a blind item about them because that would just be like weird because I would just be like,

my friend is mad at my other friend. That would be like doing like local blind items like, this man last name, Larson really likes to eat after midnight. You know what I mean? He's a gremlin. Okay, they are not white. Keege and Michael Key and Jordan Peel

Yes 100%. No They don't like each other anymore. I have kind of heard rumblings of this too. Well, just Jordan Peel escalated into this higher echel of like artists, I think. Yeah. And I could see, I can even see him kind of being more elevated

in that way. But who knows? The Scrawby bullshit, it's a blind item. Maybe they still love each other. And God willing, they do. But Kegan Michael Key and his wife, attended the 2020 Vanity Fair Oscar party last Sunday. No Jordan Peel.

Maybe they were supposed to do that together. I don't know. That's just the article of the blind item link to. Okay. Okay. This one feels really real, though, this next one in terms of feuds. This is another feud. You can always count on this illiterate actress to give you the goods if you get her talking.

She talked last night about her two-time co-star from one television show. To clarify, one television show, show two-time co-star, though, because it was like a show, and then it wasn't, and then it was a show again. I wouldn't put them in the same room for a year or two. She's illiterate? Aliterate. All-literate. Not illiterate.

All-literate. Not illiterate. And she can't read. I don't want to make fun of somebody for not being able. Oh my God, is this back to the hominem conversation? Yeah. It's like if my name was Holden-Hary. Yes.

I don't want alliteration. Right. I wish your name was Holden-Hary. The name was Holden Harry. Yeah. Okay, so she heard... They have a feud. The show was on TV, then it wasn't anymore, and now it is again.

Rosanne? No. Is it the show? Not at all. 100% wrong. Okay? The show wasn't on TV, then it wasn't. It's a comedy.

It's a comedy. It's a comedy sitcom that was on, went off, back on. Very vocal feud. She is married to a very funny gentleman who likes woodworking and is in a lot of comedy stuff. Megan Mulali and Deborah Molli. messing. Yes, 100% Will and Grace. I have like a dossier here. Malali. Oh, they really don't like each other. That's why the show stopped. Malali attended the Vanity Fair Oscar party and Malali recently made these comments on her podcast in bed with Nick and Megan. This is what she said. I'm 60 and I'm being

bullied right now. So you know it's a very insidious and dangerous thing. You think it's your fault. They're good at making you feel like it's you and you brought this on yourself. Also, she said, I've had a recent situation and I can't be specific about it, but I had it happen. I did try to stand up for myself in certain ways and that made it a thousand times worse because the bully, it just lit a fire under that person where they just tripled their efforts and it can get very dangerous. Also, also, she said, the bully has recruited many of my allies to their side.

They're not my allies anymore. I just can't imagine having that in my legs. Like, I don't need, like, an in-my-face enemy. Like, I can't even, I feel like I'd give it up or it's like, you know what, can we just not? How about, can we be friends now? Because I don't. I can't. I'd rather they all live in secret Facebook groups that I don't read.

I could not imagine being like, but this also sounds like some fucking high school shit. Yeah. I mean, it's funny to be like, I can't say, but let's just call her a mebredessing. Yeah, yeah. But it's one, yeah. But it's also one of those where it's like, this is the kind of relationship anyone has on a set. Like, grown-ass people have on a set. I feel like at the end of the day, if anything's going on, it's like, look, we, you know, we obviously have friction.

Let's just be professional here. I don't want to cause, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. But, you know, and I'm sure people are just, every time I read about stuff like this, I'm like, God, you think it would just go away after a while, after you got successful. Yeah, it's exhausted. After everybody's rich and famous and everything's great. your TV shows back on and you can just do the work even if you hate the fucking person. Yeah.

But definitely not so. I guess I always like Megan Mullali a lot, but I also never watch Will & Grace. So I have zero dogs in this game. Right. I love Megan Mulali. And I like that it's, and I hope that it's, and I hope, but the thing is that in watching, I'm saying this only as a, as a, of a viewer. I also enjoy Deborah Messing and I like what she does as well.

And I don't know who is the wrong. Maybe they're both wrong in this. And that's, because, you know, we don't know these people personally. Yeah. But it sucks just because, I mean, you know, you look at Megan Mulali's, and Megan Malali and Nick Offerman's relationship and talk about fucking couple goals. I mean, isn't that what everybody wants is their relationship? Right, right.

Yeah, it just is exactly too. But I'm always, and this is maybe bad to think like this, I'm always going to side probably with the person who's in like a very stable marriage. And, you know what I mean? And sort of seems to be able to harvest. a, like, healthy relationship that close to home. I don't know what Deborah Messing's deal is, though. She could be happily married, too,

so maybe I'm completely off-based saying that. She's, well, I mean, she's divorced, but that also doesn't mean that she's not. That doesn't mean that she's not. It doesn't mean anything. But I think somebody who's able to cultivate a very long-lasting, like, thing with a group of people.

Or is it the sickness, the fact that they utilize their relationship as part of their career? It could be the other way around. You're right. Whoa. It could be the other way around. Never judge a book. its cover. Holder McNeely said that.

Never. Never judge a book by no one else ever else said that too. Never judge a book by its long-term relationship. Holden Harry McNeely. Oh, old hominem. He's over here being like, uh, you know. Final blind eye.

This is Oscar related. This permanent, and I'm actually surprised we didn't talk about this on the show. This permanent A-list mostly movie actress from multiple movie franchises was looking for blood after she presented. There was a line added to her speech, which had not been there at rehearsal, and she was

livid because she wouldn't have agreed to it if she saw it beforehand. Oh. This person in question was up there with two other women when they presented, and it definitely was a line that literally someone in the room was like, fuck that essentially, and we all, and everyone was like cheer. I'll explain that later. They didn't say fuck that, but they just, the person in the room went out. at my Oscar party was like, no.

Do you remember this part? No. Three women present. Three women on stage. They were all in big franchise things. No? I don't remember. I don't remember.

One is afraid of aliens. Sigourney Weaver? Yes. And Brey Larson and Galgado on stage together. And Sigourney Weaver had the line. All women are superheroes to which one of the women in the room I was in responded, why can't we just be women? And everyone went, yeah.

It was weird. It was such a weird line. And yeah, it was set alongside the other two ladies. And it was right before they announced best original score. But it was such a weird fucking line. I don't think I was paying attention to that part of it. It was just so eye-roly. It's like, what do you mean all women are super?

That means all women have to be like mutants. Yeah. Women are women. Like, women are human. Yeah. And isn't that strong enough? It's like we are strong. We are strong.

We women are strong. Yeah. And also we're like things besides strong, you know. It's such a like basic level of like to be like, women are so strong. Sure, but also we're other things. Right. It's, it was, I like hearing that Sigourney Weaver was pissed. You know what I am?

I'm sweaty. Yeah. I'm like, I'm a woman and I'm sweaty. I'm here to sweat. Sometimes I'm very weak. I like to bite. Her biting powers are amazing. She can bite through a sponge.

I've been referred to, I refer to myself as screechy bitch sometime because I'll just sit in the bed and I caught like a crow. And I go, am I a crow or am I a lady? Why can't I be both? I remember that. And Jeff is scared, but he respects me. So, you know, he puts me up into a tree. Not that I couldn't get up there myself, but I did pull out my back a couple of days ago.

So that was the first time I brought it up, which you know what? Proud of myself. Good for you. I sometimes go by Globby Globber. All women are crows. All women all crows as well as crones at times. What is happening? Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

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