Page 7 - Episode 343: Chicken-Scented Jibbitz

Episode Date: March 5, 2020

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This one goes out to all my homies out there. In a trap, trip I can grip. I don't know if you guys are gonna get this one. Never thought I'd be the one who'd slip. And then I started to realize I was living, one big lie she hates me. Yeah, I'm centriced. Oh.

It hates me. La la la la. I tried to. hard and she told my feelings like I had none and ripped them away. I've been listening to so much puddle of mud. I'm about to become a puddle of Jud, everybody. Welcome to Beach 7. Puddle of Judd is here and she is, listen to some new metal.

I can't stop. I know that I've gone through these phases in the past. I can't believe that you thought we were not cool enough to catch that song reference. I just, I'm furious with you. It took us a minute, though. Yeah, it did take us a little. I literally started looking it up on Google trying to figure it out

so I could like impress her with my ability. Transcribing Jackie's lyrics as she goes. I wrote Never thought I'd slip song. And then she said, he fucking hates me. Which is not nearly as good, by the way, as ugly kid Joe's. I hate everything about you.

I hate everything about you. Why do I love you? You're right. I fucking love that song. I am just so. I feel like my weeks go by and like the theme of how I think and feel from week to week is not like changing all the time the way. I feel like Jackie has like a puddle of mud week.

Right. You know, and I really think that that's such a nice and interesting and probably good for your brain way to live to be like, this week I'm going to only think about slip knot lyrics. Right. And this is the other thing she loves to do, which I love and don't hate it all, where it's like, you have to stop. world and watch this television show and nothing else matters but this television show and then I stop my world and I watch this television show like, why have you been watching this other

television show that I stopped my entire world to watch? And I'm like, how do you watch all of this stuff? I'm a functioning adult. I can't and I don't have the time in the time. I don't even have a kid. And I'm like, I cannot consume this much media. Yeah, whereas I'm like, oh, for two months, I'll talk about the show you. And now for another two. two months, I'll talk about the show Sex Education. And Jackie's like, oh, how good is it, though? It's so good. I love that show.

But Jackie's like, for three days, I'm going to go and do it the deepest cut that I possibly can. It's really, I do think that it is actually very admirable. And I think that it's a nice way to live your life. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that it is a form of OCD. But, you know, I like that you guys see it as something that is a positive thing. I really do. I think it's like I'm starting to get worried about my worm times because I lose hours. There's no reason for it. There's no reason why I needed to go into all of Ben Affleck's life, which is what I did just this morning. I was almost late to come here because I was looking so deep into Ben Affleck's life because I think I feel bad for him, but I will get to this later on. This is a later on conversation because, yeah, I've got a problem. And that's what we're going to talk about.

Okay. Problem Corner. What's your pooh-boo-boo-do-do-do-do-do-ro. Problem Corner with Jackie. Sometimes I watch too many things and then I forget about watching them. See, this is so that was brought up yesterday. Wow. There's a lot of people starving and dying and just.

What about your problem? Your big problem. This is really, this is a big problem for me. What about my television skills? was in the middle of six feet under. I would get all about six feet under. And then no one wanted to talk to me about it. And so I just moved on.

Where's my loyalty? You didn't finish? I got so good. I got to the second season. But then I just kept watching other things and becoming more obsessed with other things because I'm so scatterbrained. The second season technically is the worst season. But it's one of those where it's like, oh, if this is the worst season, then like, this

is a pretty damn good. Same with Friday night lights. Like the second or third season of Friday Night Lights, same day. second. Yeah, I totally have a thing with series and with books where I would rather like be miserable and finish it than not finish it. Yeah. And it's so bad, especially with books, I'll like not read.

I'll be like, oh, I guess I don't read anymore because I'm in the middle of a book I don't like. Instead of just being like, you know what? I'm not going to finish this one. I had to old Yeller a book recently that I was like, I just, it's literally keeping me from reading. I have the exact same problem. Yeah.

I'm like, I just need to obviously put this book back on the shelf and let it go. Yeah, yeah. And pick up other things and read again. It is so bizarre. Yeah. It is so bizarre. And I feel like I do it with TV also, like maybe to a lesser extent. But once I've watched like, and with you actually, I was like so ambiguous after the first episode.

I was like, I think this is way too pro-stalker. And then I was like, I guess I'll watch one more to see if it gets better. And then I was like, well, now I can't stop. And now I'm going to watch every season. That's how I watched all three seasons of Sabrina. You know, that's what happens. The use syndrome. The youth syndrome.

I was literally thinking of that the other day. I'm like, I have such a small amount of time and hearing the two of you talk about how you don't even like this show and you gave it two seasons worth of your time. And I just recommended it to somebody. Why? You don't like it. Well, it's because it's different shows for different people. It depends on who you're talking to. Somebody said they wanted a fun, sexy crime show that was murdery.

And I was like, it's got sex and murder. What a weird thing to request. Oh, that's a totally normal request. I love sexy murder. That's the only thing I read, too. I read, like, sexy housewife murder story. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah.

But, like, so I was like, well, you is very sexy and murdery, but also is it, like, extremely uncomfortably pro-stalker, perhaps? Right. But. I take it they've already seen Big Little Lies. Oh, that's a good question. Big Little Lies and Sharp Objects. Big Ler Lies and Sharp Objects are the penultimate examples of that.

Yeah, sexy murder. Both books. Both books that I have, yeah. It's the same. Different gone girl author. A gone girl author is sharp object. Yeah, sharp object. I like Gone Girl too.

That's a good sexy murdery as well. Yeah, great. I enjoyed reading that as well. Yeah. But also, Molly, you have to stop your entire life and watch I'm not okay with this. You must, you must, you must. Really? Yeah.

You are going to love it. Isn't it super here? It's like superhero. It is, but it's not. It's about high school. It's great. It's more about, it's like superhero in my favorite form, which is as a metaphor for like going through puberty

and growing up and being in high school. All right. What I was saying to Jackie during talking TV, Patreon bonus episode, patreon.com forward slash page seven podcast. I was telling Jackie, what I love so much about it, plug, is that the high schoolers really look awkward

in their clothes. They look like high schoolers. That's why I like sex education too. Yeah, they feel like high schoolers when you're watching, they don't look, they're not, you know, the Riverdale effect, right? They're not like sex, which I also like, But I think I more lean towards when they just look, they just feel, seem and feel like awkward people in high school.

They satisfy different things. Riverdale is satisfying because it reminds you of like when you're a kid and you're watching State by the Bell and you're just like, these people are adults. Yes. And that's great. And like when they're actually kids being in high school, then that's satisfying because you're like, oh, this is what high school is actually like. Right. Yeah. Jackie, you looked, I looked over at the screen and you just had this, the most disturbed, mortified look on your.

your face. What's you reading about? My problem is I was opening up the links of what we were going to talk about and I saw this thing and said, family raised a dog for two years, then realized it wasn't a dog.

Well, what is it? And I'm trying to click through it. What is it? I don't need to know. Tell us. I got clickmated but there's so many things I have to click through. I think it's a possum. I was going to say possum, so I will say raccoon. What is it?

I don't know. What is it, Jackie? What is it? Their call, his name is Little Black, but what is it? What country are they in? I have to click so many things and all these things keep opening up. Oh, no. Is it a thousand years old?

No, it's like a clickbait. It's a, oh yeah, it's all clickbait. It continues to grow. This dog is so big. It's definitely not a dog. When is a dog not a dog? It's a jar. What?

What is it? Wait, a jar. So many dogs can go a little bigger. I think that's a door joke. When is a door, not a door, when it's a jar? It was a door joke. Thank you, Molly. Molly knows me.

It's what we call a door joke, Holden. I'm so sorry. Am I still allowed to be on the podcast, even though I didn't get the door joke? It's just, they, okay, they assumed it was a Tibetan Mastiff. I'm telling you, I'm on page like 19 that I'm having to click through.

There's all these pictures of how big this thing is. And they're like, and it keeps getting bigger, but bigger than a dog would be. But what is it? I'm going to go with wolf. I'm going to go with bear. Bear. What is it?

It's a bear. It's a bear. It's a bear. Oh, man. Oh, man. Everybody's just listening as like, what a real, just a solid pop culture news podcast. I'm sorry.

We're such fun and old pieces of shit. I am including it in what I sent over to Mary. so that everyone can see the picture of the dog and how I would have possibly been so sensitive. Wait, you saw a picture? Does it look like a dog or a bear? It kind of looked like a dog. It kind of looked like a mixture

between a big dog and honestly, a lion. And that's a cat. That's why I was like, is it a cat? Please tell me this huge thing is actually a cat. I wish it was a lion. So, pairs help the... Oh, are you doing the transition into what we're actually going to talk about? Is that what you're doing now?

I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry I didn't hear that because I just short-circuited because I'm actually a hologram. Oh, no, good transition. That is a good transition. The real me is sitting at home right now playing video games. Well, I, for one, am, I would go to a Whitney Houston hologram. What? Molly Neffle.

We're here talking about an evening with Whitney, the Whitney Houston hologram tour that just kicked off in Sheffield, England. Mr. Sheffield. It's not Mr. Sheffield. It's an actual place. But Molly, what? What? What? What?

Am I canceled? It's, it's canceled? I think this is canceled. I think you're canceled. It's just a video. You're just watching a video of somebody perform, right? So you're taking the attack that the director of the show took, actually. She said the same thing.

She's like, this is just. like putting on a video of your favorite performance by a deceased person and appreciating it. And I do get that, that's interesting. I do get that logic a little bit. I don't think it, you know, I think I would be more interested to see. I just think that maybe we need when celebrities write their wills now, they should give permission. They need to add that clause in the will.

Okay, that's fair. And I think that if you haven't given your permission, I feel that maybe you shouldn't, because that's the problem is that so many people. And honestly, this is a UK, this is from the UK mirror, this specific, but I did agree with them. It said in life, Whitney Houston was exploited by everyone around her. So why should passing to the Grapeon make any difference when there's still money to be made? Okay, that's fair. That kind of like that thought process where they're still using her now, which is using just her image to still make money off of her.

Yeah. All right. So that's, that's legit. I guess it's like the hologram. I don't have no problem I don't think with holograms in and of themselves because it seems like it's the future of entertainment

Oh my God We're in the future guys Isn't this weird? I hear that phrase being said With all earnestness I don't believe I have an issue With holograms I mean it wouldn't be that fun of a concert

Because it's not a live human that you're seeing Well I will say this This reminds me a lot of actually We did a Wism in the Bruiser episode on it Hatsune Miku. Hatsune Miku is, I think, really, where holograms are awesome. She is a digital pop star,

and all of her music is made by this digital music-making technology. Whoa, no, no, black mirror? That's what they do in black mirror. And she is an anime girl that you can go see, like, in this way. And there's huge, she sells out giant arenas, Hatsunei-Miku does, and she gets on stage,

and she's, and I think, like, what I, instead of seeing a dead pop star that may not have given their permission, a giant talking plant. A fictional. A crazy monster doing a pop performance or something. That's what I want to see. Yeah, that sounds, I just feel like we're going there anyway.

So, right, so rather than going the route of, like, maybe it is, maybe the Whitney Houston thing is like when they use, like, Fred Astaire's video to, like, sell the vacuum cleaner. And I found that to be very tasteless. It's one of those where it's like, for Whitney Houston, too, and I kind of could believe the sister-in-law, or the step-sister, what is she, yeah. Said that she, that Whitney, this is what Whitney would have wanted and yada, yada, yada.

And it's like, I don't know how much water that holds. But I will say, for me personally, why wouldn't I want my loved ones to, like, get some money off of me after I'm dead and, like, live a little bit more comfortably off of my hologram ass self in a live show. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel that. I'm like, it's my hologram.

Like, if you're making my hologram say things, I would never say. Like, don't make my hologram a Nazi or something. Right. That would be bad. That's scary, too, though, right? I think that might be the fear. But for me personally, I'd be like,

of course I want Lexi to make $100 because I don't see her making that much more off of my hologram at a concert. You know what I mean? But give her $100. The problem is that I think it's all because of that the Whitney documentary that I know Holden, you watched it. Oh, a cry. She had helped so many people. and everyone around her entire life. So I would say she probably would give her permission

to do these things. I just, I guess I feel a little gross doing it without her permission. But I would, outside of it, if she had given her permission, a thousand percent, I'd go see it. Unfortunately, we just little, like, I bet if you went to her while she was live and been like, can we use your hologram to do live shows?

She'd be like, what the fuck? Are you talking about? It's the mid-2000s. What are you talking about? I mean, at the same time, to be fair, there's like a whole generation of people, I mean, more than that, that would just never have even conceived of this concept.

Yeah. Yeah, no, the provision thing makes total sense. But, but like, yeah, I guess it's, to me, like, right, the idea of, like, having a concert experience that is, like, augmented reality is, like, definitely, like, weirdly futuristic and, like, slightly disturbing. And I like shows are fun because of the, like, live experience of watching a human being.

But I think what you're describing about the anime character is like, it is kind of neat to think about... I want to see stuff that couldn't happen. Yeah, the possibilities for like augmented reality are kind of cool. And seeing an anime pop star live on stage is like a really cool concept. That was one of my favorite episodes, honestly, that we did. It's such a weird. And even the music itself is synthetic.

It's created through like digital music making. So even her voice is not real. Uh-huh. It's really cool. Yeah. That's how we're taken over by computers. We're like, oh, but our job can't be taken over by computers, and it can be. They can generate it with all their wires.

No one's not saying that. Everyone's saying automation is absolutely happening. And that all of our... There's a lot of things about automation that scares me. And I guess I'm just only thinking about this now. But for some reason, I don't think that art making art through automation scares me because I don't think that making art through automation would ever replace like the a robot could ever become creative.

Now, this is the kind of thought experiment. I am here for on a pop culture podcast. Can a robot, robots can learn now. Robots can learn. That's the newest advent in AI. So why not? Wasn't there a robot? I seem to remember that's what it is.

Will Smith tries online dating. Will Smith tried to kiss Sophia AI robot. There is this video where there's all these videos where Will Smith is interacting with an AI robot named Sophia. And he goes into kiss her. Yeah. And or goes in to kiss them and they deny Will Smith of like, no, no, no. I'm not like essentially like, I'm not ready for that step kind of thing.

Wow. So it's, it is very awkward. I think this is, yeah, this is from a couple of years ago. But if you look up Will Smith, this awkward date with Sophia the robot. So if he is like a famous AI robot. This has some real ex machina vibes. Yeah, for sure. He looks exactly like.

Yeah, she looks exactly like that. They're going to do like a weird dance and just a little bit. Yeah, so he said he goes in for the kiss and they respond, I think we can be friends. Let's hang out and get to know each other for a little while. You're on my friends list now is what she said to him. Wow. You fucking get it, girl.

I would kiss Will Smith We're watching the video Are you watching it? She winked, he tries to guess her she like winks at him Suggestively It's a cold shutdown I hate that Why are we?

What is this episode so far? Dogs are bears Robots are bears man Dogs are bears I guess I don't It's not that I don't think that robots can't be creative but I don't think that human creativity will ever be like... Surpassed by robots?

Yeah. I mean, it's less countable than say... Like, or it's less of a metric than say, oh, robots can definitely learn how to play chess from the very, like, from nothing and beat the greatest, like, master at it within, you know, a matter of minutes. Right. That is a real thing. Right.

And, like, robots will, like, take jobs, so we need to, like, have a plan for when that happens. But I guess I'm not really worried. about when. I'm so scary. Can robots host an entertaining pop culture podcast? That's good. That's a good question.

That is the real question. Are they coming for this job specifically? Yes, because this is a weirder, more, I don't know. Can robots have a brand? Can robots be influencers? That's the sentence is depressing.

Of course they can. Why not? Definitely. That makes me sad. That's the question. Black Mirror. Are we about to write a Black Mirror? I think we're writing a Black Mirror episode. To do another segue,

this is the hot potato segue show. I am not entirely sure how different a conversation between two robots would be between the conversation between Pereseltin. Oh my God. If sparks shot out of their deck. I'm sorry, Pereselton. Did you guys watch it?

Yes, I watched some of it. I could not watch the whole thing. You keep sending these videos that are so long, so long. Parasilton and Tana Montague. Mungo? I don't know how to say your last name. Tana manga. But they have considerably less energy than a robot.

Yeah, well, you're being real dizz right now. So what's the deal with Tana? I've never seen this Tana person, and I'm sure I'm supposed to have. What is her deal? She's just a Mondo influencer? They are a YouTube influencer. Honestly, I am not too, I'm not sure, but I know that they were married to Jake Paul. That is it.

That's all I know. So we're there with it. Okay. So what she does is the thing that annoys me That brought me right back to high school That like the jocks would do Wait no we are talking about just so you guys know We are talking about this interview that I watched

But it was a Q&A with Paris Hilton and Tana And it was again It was like watching two robots talk to each other Yes it was and what she does that pisses me off Is like she would never have an original thought herself But every time Paris said something funny or interesting She just repeated a bunch Yes

You know what I mean? And tried to kind of like yes and it, but mostly just repeating it. Yeah, and it's just this like brainless annoying trait to hat where it's like, oh, I don't have anything interesting to say, so I'm just going to make you feel and look like the other.

You know what I mean? And the weird one in the situation, even though she's trying to be like, you're so funny, you're so great, but it almost feels naggy. You know what I mean? Yeah. I enjoyed watching them talk because I will say, and this is what I said to you guys, you can see that Paris Hilton's character is a schick.

Just in how she interacts with someone that truly is. Well, truly is, you know, not building a character. That is just who she is. And you can just see the look on Paris Old Draves which also made me love her even more. Yeah.

Of her just being like, she's asking her all these questions of like, so what's your favorite Simple Life episode? And you can tell that this girl is just like, like pulling out, and I'm sure that she's watching it, but these are, like, there's such pointed questions of asking specific answers. that she's barely giving her. I mean, that one she did,

because she was talking about the episode where she gets stepped on by the horse, which that was, I remember watching that episode, very upsetting. But just, I don't know. What happened in that? Can you paint as a layman to that show? What happens when she gets stepped on the horse?

Well, they're on this simple life, and you can see both of them. She and Nicole Ritchie are riding horses out into a pasture, and you guys can't see it, but I am mimicking the fact that I am on a horse right now. So they're going out into the pasture, and then all of a sudden the horse starts going a little bit crazy. Bucks Peresilton off of the horse.

The horse is a little scared, so he steps on her. Scary. And broke some of her ribs and stuff like that. Whoa. So in the interview, even Tanna was like, yeah, I remember a lot of people said that maybe it was faked. And Paris Held was like, no, no, no. No, I went to the hospital. I went right to the hospital.

So you saw it in the show afterwards her coming out of the hospital, but I mean, it's just, it was rough. It's a rough episode. I really like the simple life. I was, that was the time period of my life where I watched the most reality TV, the early 2000s. Weirdly enough, now is the moment I watched the most reality TV. I think that's more typical to watch more now. But I was like a real, I've talked about this on the show before, but I was a real Joe Millionaire, like, you know, the early days.

Well, that was a boom you're talking about, though. I mean, that was, right, because is Jersey Shore a part of that? Jersey Shore was later. I'm talking like 2003, I think, was a Simple Life, Joe Millionaire, and Mr. Personality, my favorite. The Wild West of reality. It was the first year, I think, that it started. Molly Neffle, I don't know if I've ever asked you, but I just purchased the first season on DVD. Did you ever see the Joe Schmo show?

It was in that era. I think it was like 2002, 2003. And what they do. And so I completely forgot about this show. Jeff had brought it up to me. And what they do is they take this dude and they put him in a house where it's all of the reality star like tropes living in a house. But they're all character actors except for him.

And Kristen Whig is one of the characters in the first season. What? Pretending to be other people. And essentially, if this dude can make it out so it's a regular quote-unquote reality show. But this guy's like, everybody's crazy. What that? Like, why are they all acting? like this as he kind of goes, I think, a little mad.

I haven't watched it yet because you can't find it anywhere. I had to buy the DVDs on Amazon. You can buy the whole first season for like $6. So don't worry. It's supposed to be like a satire of a reality show or what? Yes. But they still, this poor Joe Schmoe thinks it's just a reality show. Wow.

That actually is kind of a fun idea. That's a really fun. I think it's a great idea. Yeah, I'm surprised that's not like more of a larger, genre in the field, to be honest. Yeah, so I'm going to let you know if it's great, I'm just going to send you the DVDs. Great. I guess the first real reality shows were Survivor and Big Brother, and then Joe Millionaire

and Mr. Personality and Simple Life were the next iteration. What's your favorite? Reality show? Yeah. Oh, you being Diz right now? Maybe. I love it. So Diz, I think Dizzy is Tanna's one of her catchphrases.

and Paris Heldon has shortened it to Diz and refers to like most people around who's like, hey Diz, and so she just took her catchphrase made it shorter and made it hers. I hate this. This show is so, like, what are we? Fucking Sliven, bro. Man.

Yeah, to answer your question, hold, I think my favorite all-time reality show is Mr. Personality, which is the one where it was one woman and then 20 men wearing masks. Like scary masks. Really scary masks. So it's kind of like a precursor to blind love or love is blind. Easter Island style.

Yeah, I feel like such a loser because I have not watched Love is Blind and I'm the only person on Earth who has not watched Love is Blind. You're the only person on Earth. I remember this show. Really terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. Robocop style. And that is my favorite reality.

Yeah, that is like, so you like kind of more dystopian nightmare style reality TV. I loved just a long scene of just like The Bachelor, but what if they had terrifying masks on? That is very scary. And also, if you want to hear what, if you want to hear Holden and I screaming about Love is Blind, because we are both, of course, watching it. You can listen to Talking TV, where we screamed about it for almost an entire two episodes. Yeah. I know this is not talking TV and that that's a bonus, but in case there is other people like me who see that everyone else is talking about,

love is blind, but don't yet know what it is. Will you give me the elevator pitch? Okay, so it really is the perfect mix between the circle and 90-day fiancé. In that, now remember the circle. The circle is no one can see each other. They can only interact with each other through the social media network, right? So it's all about, like, how they come through. Now, the difference is no one's catfishing in this show,

even though I did pitch, even though I know this would never fly, unlike a show called Ugly Duckling, where one of the people is hideous. That's essentially the idea of Mr. Personality. It's like one of one of them is idiots. So in this one, everyone's generally attractive, though, in Love is Blind. And they can only communicate to each other in these booths through this, like, foggy glass or whatever.

So no one can see anyone. And they cannot see each other until they get engaged. Engaged. Wow. And then they are whisked off to a resort in Mexico to like maybe consummate or whatever or make it happen. And then they go all the way to the wedding. And I think they like have to contractually get all the way to the wedding. And then they either say I do or I don't.

They live, they have to live together for three weeks. But this also through almost all of this, they have no, like, or at least for the first two or three weeks, they have no Wi-Fi. They can't talk to anybody. they are in this bubble of just getting to know this person. They can hang out with each other. All the guys can see each other and hang out like in this little kind of chill bachelor pad style place and same with the ladies. So they talk to each other.

But yeah, the men cannot see the women. The women cannot see the men and they sort of like they kind of speed date in the very beginning and then they kind of narrow it down, you know. Oh my God. I'm so excited to watch reality show because it's been so long since I really watch. Like I watched drag race and like other, but like it. It's been really long time since I watched, like, a truly, like, sex trash. This is a good one to watch.

Yeah. It's great. Because it goes through stages, too. There's the whole them not seeing each other part, but then there's the whole, like, I guess, are we going to have sex in Mexico now, even though we've never even seen each other until just now? Because it's a whole other ball game, because it is, like, it really is, as much as everyone's like, I like everybody for their personality. It's like, well, sexual attraction is part of being in a relationship.

Of course. It's part of it. And so you look at the person and you're just like, oh, that's not what I thought. Is it all completely heterosexual? It's all completely heterosexual for now. Which I don't like that. But at the same time, I guess they'd have to figure out other ways to keep, unless it's just groups of people and everyone is pansexual.

Like, it's not a way to do it? Not only also, is it not diverse enough, too? Not at all. Not only is it not very diverse. All the guys are, I will say, my big, about the show, all the guys are so forgetable and boring. All the women, very interesting, different

personalities, you know, they pop off in all different interesting ways. They're, you know, they, or they, you know, they strike you in different ways. The men, I literally, I'm like, oh, wait, I thought that guy was with that other woman, but she, he literally is just the same person. Uh-huh. It's, they're

all kind of, they're kind of built white dudes with, like, beards. They'll look like bros. They're all, they're all bros. And they're so forgettable. Yeah, that's the thing about like I never got into like The Bachelor or it because I was like, I can't bother to like keep up with these generic looking guys. Right. And that I think more diversity. And hey, can one of them please, can we do this show?

I know nobody will run with it because it is evil where one is just absolutely just hideous. I'm down. I'll do it. I'll do that show. And that's the whole thing. And everyone's like, I don't know. I might be with the ugly duck. Like we'll call it ugly duckling, right?

And they'll be like, I don't know, I'm kind of, this guy is so great. Like, they all know that there is one. Everyone knows on each side that there is an ugly die. There's like a. But they're all hot. In love of the blind, they're all basically conventionally hot. Yeah, everybody's hot. Everyone's very attractive for sure.

That's hot. You know what also is real hot? I had sent as a gag, as a jest of sorts. I had sent an article to Holden and Molly that was about a KFC themed wedding. But if you scroll down in the KFC, FFC themed wedding article, you will see that KFC and crocs have teamed up for a limited edition Kentucky Fried Chicken Crocs that also come with, so the things that they attach on top of the crocs are called gibbets.

They have a KFC drumstick shaped gibbets on top of the crocs that are chicken scented. and I am upset at the internet today. I'm upset. I'm upset. It does not be in the internet today. No, it is not time for the list. It is just a hideous crock. Oh, it's a crock.

I'm breaking up with the internet. It looks like you fell into a deep friar and like permanently destroyed your feet while swearing crocs and your skin is oozing out the crock holes. It is so. Oh my God. It is so awful. It is, that is, remember when we talked about Katie Perry's like jelly sandals? Katie Perry's scented shoes? This is the next step and it's a much bigger step.

It's a, it's a plunge. This is. Oh my God, we are living in hell. We are finally, it's finally hell. I didn't know it could get worse. You know, it's just chicken scented gibbets. Chicken scented gibbets. I hate everything.

I hate crox. I hate the word gibbets. It sounds like giblets from a turkey. It is. That's why I honestly looked up the word gibbets to make sure. I was like, is gibbets a part of a chicken that I'm not aware of? What the hell is a gibbets? Jibbitts is what you put on your crocs?

Like there's charms for crocs? Is that true? Yeah, it's like it's, it's flair for crocs. Yeah, it's like flare that they put on. Flare for cracks. I cannot, like, one of my great pit peeps in life, especially as like if you're at the air, and you see the crock family.

Or you're at a very touristy place and it's the whole family and they all, the little kids are wearing crocs, the mother and the father are wearing crocs. I just, it just makes me so angry. Did you guys know that crocs have been in with tweens and

teens for like a minute? Like they came back and they were cool. Really? Well, so kids, my theory on that is that kids have now grown up, an entire generation has grown up wearing crocs since they were kids. And Crocs are good kid shoes because, like, you don't need socks, there's no buckles, right, exactly. So, like, my toddler has crocs, but like, and also some of my friends.

Molly. Touched you a toddler. Why do you get her some chicken scypits for her crocs? Yeah, get some chicken gibbets for it. I hate how much gibbets sound like giblets. Yes, exactly. I think it's why I'm getting more upset about that word. As a parent, one of my best friends right after he became a parent, this was before I was a parent, he started wearing crocs around and I was like, bruh, you.

I understand you're a dad now, but you cannot walk around Brooklyn only wearing crocs. If you got your crocs for your house shoes, I get it. Sure. You can't wear crocs to the bar. Honestly, dude, not even house shoes, bro.

I will say this right now, though. Whoa, bra. The KFC, bra. By the way, guys, if you guys, the surf's really good today, if you guys want to catch some waves with me on my board. But I will say this.

The KFC wedding is actually shockingly very classy looking. It was beautiful. It's actually very beautiful, Which is why I thought, I was like, I, again, I think that everyone now knows Jackie succumbs to clickbait. And this one, they actually look beautiful. It was a bear. The dog was so big, it was a bear.

And she's like, I'm just getting worried about myself because I just keep getting lost in these worm times. I think it's just like you're clicking on the most obvious clickbait articles like ever. I'm intrigued. I'm a human being. I want to know what it is. If it's not a dog, then what is it? It's a bear. It's a snake.

It's a bear. I wish it was a bag of worms. The thing about the gibbets is that I love the smell of KFC. Every time I walk by a KFC, I stop to inhale the sweet, sweet smell of the Colonel's spice blend. And I would probably enjoy a chicken scented gibbet on my shoes. Where your feet are? You want your feet to smell like fucking greasy chicken? Molly, you know your feet are just, ooh, smell like, hmm.

I just imagine, oh my God, they really, they need to partner up with barefoot contessa. Oh, yeah. Oh, Jeffrey. You know what you'd like even more than your roast chickens? Or going out to Fire Island with all your boys every weekend? Maybe you should put some chicken gibbets on your shoes. How good does that smell?

The smell like it. It sounds good. She sounds like a gibbet. This does bring up a good question, though. What do you want your feet to smell like? I would go for more of a dessert. Fruit. Katie Perry was right about the fruit.

The fruit is delightful. The sandals looked dumb, but fruit is the only option. Fruit is the only way to go, right? Dessert, you really want your feet to smell like chocolate? I think like some sweets. Yeah, like a moose. Or what's the French one where you have to break the top of it? Crembrelée.

Crembrillet. Oh, you want your feet to smell like cream, like cream? Yeah. Cooked cream. Wet cream. I want it to be the wetest of creams. I feel like it has to be the kind of thing that you still want to. Like, if you think you're out on Coney Island, right?

And you're sweating. And it's midday. And you're like four beers in. And you're kind of feeling a little bit grossed out because you haven't had a water and you're just sweating so much. What would you still smell that wouldn't turn your stomach? I think that's really what. It's like, where are you?

What are you smelling right now? Well, for me, a classic gentleman. I turn to milkfoot. Milk foot. Do you want to stand out from all the other classy cows on the range? Yeah. It's just a pair of crocs with an entire life-size gallon of milk. Jibbit attachment.

I'm attached to just walking around. What about you guys? Fruit. I just keep looking at these gibbets. See, my original thought, like my thought is something like cotton candy. Because I never really want to eat cotton candy, but I like the smell of cotton candy. That's how I feel, actually, I do want to eat KFC,

but the smell of KFC is good. You know the guys aren't contesting that. The smell of KFC is good. No. Yes, I would agree the smell of KFC is good. I just don't want chicken feet. I don't want chicken feet. Most gibbets are like a tiny little button.

Yeah. I'm looking up gibbets right now just to see. I literally typed in, croc gibbets awful. And nothing is nearly as egregious as the drumstick gibbet. The drumstick gibbet. It would impact your gait. It is so disgust, disturbing looking. I mean, it literally looks like you dropped a fucking disgusting drumstick on your foot and it stuck to it.

And it stuck. And it looks, yeah, you look like a disgusting individual. Yeah, they look way too real. Like way too real. By the way, there are platform crocs and makes me want to die. Oh my God, they're plat crocs. Oh, that's kind of sexy though. I just showed Molly a picture of it.

You know, there is a part of me that totally understands Gibbitts. I always wanted a charm bracelet and I didn't have one. Oh, true. Like, I feel, I like little chotchkes that make me feel like I'm representing my personality. I very much understand having Crocs with Jibbets. If I was 25 years younger, I would probably have Crocs with Jibbis. My thing is this. I just showed you a picture of a crock completely covered in Jibbitts.

This is the deal. Those holes, they're there to air out your feet. They're there to, so when you plug all those holes in, you just have a sweaty, rubber. Just a rubber. shoe that is so disgusting. Smelling like hot candy or chicken or... You better make it smell like fucking something. Because if not, it's just going to be dirty armpit.

It all just makes me... It makes me smile. It makes me happy. It makes me want to throw... I'm hungover and I want to throw up. But you know what crocs have going for them? Again, for the child thing, is that they're washable. So if you just sweat into your crocs,

Well, you're covered in gibbets. And then you put him in the washing machine. Disgusting. I literally just decided to not be a father. I was totally on board up until this moment with Lexi. She's wanted this for so long. I'm going to have to tell her tonight. I'd be like, I talked with Molly.

You can't. No, I have an extra pair of child crocs. I can give you. My child has two pairs of crocs that are the same size. That's one pair of crocs too many, so I can give you the extra pair. But Holden, if you never become a father, you could never. really truly understand how much you can let them down on their birthdays, just like Ben Affleck has done with his kids in the past. I love this story so much. Did I just bring this down to

our? Because we're bumping it back up. I love this story so much. I'm more, I'm excited. We've all been watching Ben Affleck. He's having a lot of problems. He's in and out of rehab. He's having, he came out and said that losing Jennifer Garner and that divorce was the worst mistake he's ever made in his life. He's under, he's understanding. And he's, he's He's really struggling is what it seems. Of what they put out there. And you know what? I could also just be like, maybe his publicist is doing a really good job of spinning this, the whole addiction thing.

It's just I, he's really trying to be more present, to be a better person. And he's doing this movie right now with Adam Driver, which also, I looked up this movie. It's called The Last Duel. And he and Matt Damon wrote, they did the screen. played together based on a novel by Eric Yeager. And just the short story of it, which immediately makes my chest hurt. It says it's set in 1386 and it is about two best friends and it's a revenge story because one goes to war and returns to discover the other has raped the soldier's wife.

No one will believe the woman and the soldier appeals to the king of France and says he wants to fight in a duel to the death. And if the other guy wins, he's innocent. And it's the last legally sanctioned duel in France. I'm going to watch the fuck out of this movie. Number one. Number two, he's not talking about dookies. Or I guess I'm going to start calling him my gibbits.

But Ben Affleck was going home. He said he had to be home for his son's, his eight-year-old son, Samuel's surprise birthday party while he's doing this shoot. He'd ordered a bunch of presents that he was supposed to go pick up. He finds out the presents are not going to be there in time. but his assistant comes to him was like, wait, wait, and he was so upset. He just burst into tears because he really didn't want to fuck this up.

And his son is a huge Star Wars fan. And to the point that he actually thinks that Star Wars is real and that Kylo Ren is real, even though he knows that his dad works in fictional movies. So Adam Driver

had actually sent stuff for his son, for his son's birthday. And his assistant had said, Adam heard it was your son's birthday, so he called your assistant and got your address and sent some presents and signed a card and a picture from Kylo Ren. And that is such a nice. Like, that's such a nice thing to do because you know your buddy's kid is a huge ban. And then he said at the end, Adam made me a hero to my kid and I will never, ever forget that. And he was saying it and starting to tear up and I just, I'm sobbing.

I love that. Yeah, that is sweet. and I do feel like, I don't know why I feel some, like, it's mean that I feel some perverse satisfaction in watching Ben Affleck just like, fuck up his life. I don't know what, that's like, very cool of me. It's just because he's such a like.

With your crocs and your hologram love and now this, I think you're evil today. He like, rape what he's sewed with Jennifer Gardner, didn't he? Like, wasn't he with the asshole with her? He was, and he also, because, and, And that's why I'm assuming it is like a publicist thing. Yes, he is the quintessential slept with the nanny. Yeah.

While Jennifer Garner's working, he is the, he's made a lot of bad decisions. And I guess in my head, I'm just like, but he's been struggling so much with his addiction problems. An addiction, of course, I would never, I have no, take no pleasure in anybody struggling with that, of course. But in terms of him being like, I fucked a nanny, and now I messed up my kid's birthday. Like, it's just hard for me to be like, oh, you used to, you know, I'm most of my love. He really does talk like that. He's such a sad boy, you know? And so, but it is nice, it is nice to have fellow sad boy Adam Driver help out with his son's birthday.

That is very sweet. How sweet it is. And I don't know what, honestly, this is a new feeling for me because I think up until maybe three days ago, every time I see a picture of Ben Affle, like, oh, God. And every time he's like, you see the glimpse of his huge, horrible, full back tattoo. Yeah. Remember that back? Terah? Oof, yikes.

And he wasn't a very, you know, he wasn't a very good Batman, but, you know, now he's even excited to go see the new R. Pats Batman. And because he was supposed, I guess he was supposed to be working on writing, directing, starring in a standalone Batman that he stepped away from. Because he was like, I just can't do this right now. I think his dream, he said, is to go back, come back in 20 years and make that movie. Well, good to him for knowing his limits. Yes.

That was, I just feel like you hate him. I think that he is an example of a person who is famous. I get it. He's not that talented. He's just not that talented. No, he's not. Yeah, yeah. But he wrote like, what is Ben Affleck good at?

Goodwell hunting was very good. Yes, that was, he was, he really got a boost from Goodwill Hunting. Yes, and that was, I know the first thing, but it was very, very good. And did he not co-write that with Matt Damon? He did. And also, can I say spoiler confession time for me? I've never seen it. I've never seen it.

It's quite good. Do I like, would I like? Do I see it? It's not your fault, Jackie. I have not seen it in probably 20 years, and I don't know how well it holds up, but I remember liking it at a time. Yeah, you should watch it. It's like.

It's not your fault, Molly. Smart boys. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's a, whoa, it feel like the way that you're saying it. Also, Molly, I have to tell you this right now. before I forget, because if we want to talk fucking tap dancing,

so now Hulu, all of FX shows are on Hulu, they just partnered up. Fossie Verdone. I need to see it in Siener. Oh, I will watch that. Mamma Mia. It's great. Yeah.

I remember seeing like the previews for that and being like, ooh, that's going to be. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And then Fossie hands, Fossie hands. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And everything, everything about it makes me happy. Sam Rockwell makes me...

And Michelle Williams, I'd ruin my life for either one of them. Yes, agree. Agree to both. Yes. And watching the two of them and they're just passion. Yeah.

I feel like in a sea of Hollywood, Ben Affleck is just like, the guy you went to high school with. You know, just like, what are you doing here? You know? He's just like... He's just like...

middle of the road, you know? I get it. He's just a plain man. Right. He is. But he directed the town and the town is very good. Okay. So you have two things to his in his favorite.

I know it's probably hard to get into the mood to see a movie called The Town because that sounds like it would be the most boring thing on the planet, but it's actually quite, quite good. All right. He's really, I think, a stronger director than he is. An actor. An actor. Everything he's directed. And husband.

And yeah, oh, much better. I looked up this nanny though, and I have to say not to like nanny blame or whatever, I would never hire a nanny that attractive. Ever. It is. You're nanny blaming right now, but yes. I hate to nanny shame or whatever, but like. I'm going to hire the most hideous nan.

Again, with the word hideous. That's the word of the day. No, when I was a nanny, you get a young, drunk, chubby fuck up, or most of the women that I would interact with, which were older Caribbean women. because they fucking sat down the fucking line and those kids were never out of line that's these are the people guys. But then you stole shampoo

and that's why you got fired. I didn't steal shampoo. She apologized and admitted that she made a mistake. Still fired though. I was still fired. I'd take her side still though. And speaking of people that make us want to shake them to death,

I feel the knee that we need to talk about Goop and how she had to bring up Shallow Hal. Because I remember when Shallow came out. Oh my God. And even then it was not okay. We talked about Shallow Hal what must have been, I don't know, three, four years ago on this very show. And I had, when you and Marcus were talking about it,

I was like, you guys have to be joking me. I had completely, completely forgotten slash blocked it out. And when we looked at the images of Gwyneth Paltrow and Shallowell, I was like, this is so, such a crime against humanity that this happened. It makes me think of pretty little liars whenever they put Hannah in the fat suit where you're just like, well, that's how what fat people look like. And also, this is very weird and uncomfortable. Man, remember how often fat suits were employed in the like two decades?

The 90 professors. Yes, in which we grew up, fat suits were a thing. Hookerles, hickleys. Yikes. And yeah, Gwyneth Paltor had to, had to go. go all Tyra Banks on it and be like, I put on a fat suit. Now I know what it's like to not be privileged. I get it. And so she was asked in an interview what her, what she felt was her worst performance. And she brought up shallow howl and she said, the first day I tried the fat suit on,

I was in the Trebekah Grand Hotel in New York City. And I walked through the lobby. It was so sad. It was so disturbing. No one would make eye contact with me because I was obese. I was wearing this black shirt with big snowmen on it. For some reason, the clothes they make for women that are overweight are horrible. I felt humiliated because people were really dismissive. Go fuck yourself. Oh, I just have to talk about it because I was filled with so much rage. I'm filled with so much rage about this.

I'm mad. I'm mad about it. Yeah. Well, of course, it's not her being like, oh, I'm actually like, it's somehow, it's Gwyneth Paltor, like, I feel like maybe she's trying to be like the way that our society treats fat people is very dehumanizing. But that's not what she said. She's just like, I was disgusting. Like, she totally, in what maybe she thinks is being anti-fat shaming, she's totally fat-shaming.

Yes, a thousand percent of how she's like, I can't even believe that these fatties live like this. You may as well say that. I'd respect you more if you said it about my people. And it is just, I'm just, I'm just, I won't. want to put her head through a wall. I cannot believe that that movie got made. Like, think about, oh, I meant to talk about this on the show. I almost forgot.

I watched the first 30 minutes of Titanic the other night because it was on TV. And I could not turn away. I love that movie, but I haven't seen it since 1997. And so I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. And I was so excited. And good Lord. In the first 30 minutes, Rose says it was the ship of dreams, but for me it may as well have been a slave ship taking me in shackles across the Atlantic.

And I was just like, no, Titanic, no. Wasn't that long ago? Oh, not that long ago. And that's not the same thing. Not the same thing. Titanic. And I was just like, man, the 90s were terrible. And the aughts were terrible.

We were just saying terrible things all the time. And I thought, like, shallow house an example. Yeah, but Molly, she had to date and marry someone that was rich and hot. So that is upsetting. It's just like being sold into slavery. Lots of swings and misses. But Shallowell is even, it's like, there's plenty of things where you can be like, okay, like people didn't have the vocabulary that they do now, whatever.

But like, Shell hell is an example where even, like, this was a hate crime then. You know, like this is not, this should not have happened. A fucking issue back. Yeah. Well, they got carte blanche after something about Mary. They could make anything. Right. That was essentially the deal, right?

Yeah. And something about Mary also ages pretty roughly. It's a rough one. There's a good amount of rough ones out there. This special needs kid. A lot of faves did not age well. But none of them are the ones that are on this list. Who's on the list?

Jackie! You gotta have that list. We're talking eight cursed movie productions today. Because I feel like, these are the kind of things that I have, of course, looked into, but I, you know, you never know if everyone else knows about how scary and curse the set of Poultergeist was. This is one that I really would love to get into more, and I think that's why I was so drawn to this list this week. Well, unfortunately, we don't have any sort of a podcast that we go into deep dives on things

like that, so. Yeah, I don't have any opportunity. I don't have any opportunity to do it, But Poldergice, of course we all know it's about a family whose new home, unbeknownst to them, was built on an ancient burial ground. And so they're being disturbed by the ghosts. But with all that in mind, you might think that director Toby Hooper, writer-producer, writer-producer Steven Spielberg, and the rest of the filmmakers would know better than to use actual human remains as props. But that's exactly what they did.

In the scene where Jo Beth Williams is dragged into a swimming pool that's under construction, the skeletons that pop up around her are real. Superstious movie fans have pointed to this as an explanation for the shocking deaths of two of the movie's young stars. Dominique Dunn was murdered by an ex-boyfriend in 1982, just a few days shy of her 23rd birthday, and Heather O'Rourke died for misdiagnosed intestinal stinosis

in 1988 at age 12. Man, I would also say, isn't the other thing with that movie that the director was like a crazy drunk or something like that and Stephen Schilder had to take over the production It was just this nightmare shit show production. Yeah, I want to let's do it. I want to know more about it.

Yeah, I thought that's more what you were going to get into. That it was like crazy, apparent. Like, he was just insane. And yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but there's two deaths of two of the main people in it. That's nuts too. You should totally do Polter Guys next for Pop History. Oh, my God, maybe.

I love Polterguise. What about the Omen? Which, of course, the omen is a little bit scary. But did you know that on his way to shoot the film in London? Star Gregory Peck's plane was. struck by lightning. Executive producer Mays Newfield experienced a similar scare when his flight from Los Angeles

was electrocuted just a few weeks later. Other tragedies related to this movie included a terrorist bombing at the hotel where Newfield and his wife were staying in London and the death of the film's Animal Trainer. The day after he came to the set to handle the baboons

in the famous zoo scene, the trainer was mauled by a tiger. Wow. However, the most shocking the Omen-related incident occurred two months after the film premiered. The film special effects pro John Richardson was driving in the Netherlands with his assistant Liz Moore when they got into an accident. While Richardson survived, Moore was decapitated.

A nearby sign for a town added another unsettling layer to the tragedy. It read Omen 66.6 kilometers. Isn't it as fun? Isn't it scary? That is a little spooky. I'm pretty scared right now. Are you so scared? Well, also the exorcists, we also know that's scary because when the New York City set of the exorcist burned down in 1972, filmmakers immediately suspected evil forces were to blame. Jesuit priest, father Thomas M. King was brought in to bless the set when the crew moved to Washington, D.C.

But that didn't end the production's unlucky streak. It was reported that a total of nine people involved with the movie died by the time production wrapped. You know, I would say now I've heard everything, but I've already heard that before because Wizard did an episode on. the Exorcist. Also, that scene where, fine, I love being canceled. It's my favorite thing. Another interesting fact that I remember from that episode, that scene where she gets like thrown off the bed, she broke like a bunch of ribs during that.

Oh shit. She was honestly, like physically abused through that whole process. And she went through hell. She actually, or was it her ribs? She has, I think she still has back, she had like lifelong back issues or something from that shoot. Wow. She, it wrecked her whole body.

Like, yeah, it was really crazy. Yikes a loo. That is scary. There's a lot of crazy shit that happened around the Exorcist. A lot of crazy shit. Why not just got a little dummy? Throw the dummy. I think also in Italy during the premiere, like lightning struck a church across the street. And speaking

of lightning, the last one I'm going to get into is the Passion of the Christ. If you're looking for a sign to stop making your R-rated movie about Jesus' crucifixion, getting struck by lightning is a pretty clear one. During the production of the Passion of the Christ, a bolt of lightning hit star Jim Cavazel and assistant director Jan Michelini.

And it was actually the second time Michelini had been struck by lightning on the set of the film. Both the victims walked away from the incidents relatively unscathed. And who cares about how much money it made worldwide? Isn't that nuts? That's twice. A lot of lightning striking. Yeah, a lot of lightning striking.

It is, and that is one that's pretty, the symbolism is pretty heavy-handed. Right. Maybe don't do it. But I know that lightning would definitely brighten up things a little bit. What is that? Doth a crow? Into this podcast studio?

When is a crow not a crow when it's a jar? You ruined in my headro. It's my time for me time. Let me start over now. Oh, no. Dotha Crow into the podcast studio. Oh, the ball he's looking around as if they're a crow. Jackie, do you hear a crow?

You got her. Oh, got it. What could that mean? Oh, my Lord, it's packing my eyeballs out. I think I'm going. Blind. Hi, Tombs. It's me, the crow.

Oh, we can't see them. I was not expecting for the crow to pack your eyes out. I thought it was just going to be a beacon of darkness. Right, it actually took my eyeballs out and I cannot see now. Go on. Just trying to warm up to the whole concept here of this segment. Okay, guys, I'm going to say a thing that you don't know and you have to guess it, all right? What's it going to be?

What's it going to be? It looks like the A-list mostly movie actor who is set to make another installment of his franchise, went back to the well and is dating someone who was one of his or, Rub and Tug regulars. We love him on the show. He loves to get masturbated. He was in a blind item where he was at a department store and he tried to pay the lady at the department store

to have sex with him in a booth. He wasn't John Travolta. It's not a Jean-Trouble. Yeah, no. And he was with his ex-wife and son at the store. Oh, this is so familiar. Right. And he was just like, I'll do it in a person.

Hey, can you get you? Nick Cage? Yeah, Nick Cage. And what's the franchise do you think? It's a fun one. National Treasure. Yeah, National Treasure Three! Yeah, bring back another one.

But, you know, wait, so he did what? Oh, he went back to his Rub and Tug? Rub and Tug, regular, who he's apparently dating now. He was seen recently with a mysterious woman, visiting his own tomb in New Orleans, which I got to visit when I went to New Orleans. That's in. You can take a cemetery tour and see it. It's this. Have you seen it before?

No. I should show you my actual picture of me in front of the tomb, but I don't know if I'll be able to pull it up in time. Look at this tomb, Molly. This is the best. Nick Cage has his own tomb. He got it in the cemetery. It sticks out like a sore thumb in this like old New Orleans cemetery.

Wow. It is a pyramid. Molly describe it for us. It is a pyramid. It has a little coffin-shaped door in the front. And it looks like it has a sign that says Omnia Abuno. Yeah. Omnia Abumno, which now I'm going to.

to look it up. I knew I should have. It means everything from one. Yeah, that's his tomb. He got it a long time ago. So apparently the story is that I was told when visiting. He, oh, what movie? Okay, so he moved into this incredibly haunted mansion in New Orleans, or like mansion house kind of thing.

It's in New Orleans proper, though. It's in the French Quarter. This place is so haunted, they based an entire American horror story season on this place. It was like this crazy, rich as hell woman way back in the day who would like do fucking crazy experiments like on her slaves in the attic during like fancy parties that she would hold downstairs. It's very disturbing. It's like, again, a whole season is based on it with what's her name. Oh, great. What's your name?

What's her name? Kathy Bates. And he stayed there and he moved in apparently not knowing that this place was like intensely haunted. He probably thought he got some really good deal on the place. And all these horrible things started happening to him. Ghost Rider came out. He went through like a divorce. That is a problem.

Yeah. All this terrible stuff started going down. And he also noticed that, and this might be the embellishment of the story, it feels embellished. But he noticed that there were these tour groups stopping outside of his house. And he thought maybe it was like a celebrity tour. Like, oh, they're just, they're stopping out front of Nick Cage's house. They found out where I live. But then he got curious.

And so he put on a disguise and took. took the tour, and to his horror found out that this place is intensely haunted, he went to a voodoo priestess, and she was like, you have to do X, Y, Z things, and one of them was get a tomb in this cemetery. Really? So he paid, like, to remove the curse. So he paid, like, a ton of money, got this tomb in the cemetery. It's so weird.

It sticks out like a sore thumb. Also, you cannot film in that cemetery since 1969, because that's where they shot the cemetery seen in Easy Rider, where they actually tripped on acid and ran around that cemetery. and filmed them just going crazy. And so ever since then, you can't film there. So is that where he will be buried when he died? That is where he will be buried when he dies. Wow.

And that's amazing. That is amazing. I didn't know any of that. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Go to New Orleans. There are so many stories like that. I want to go. It is so good.

Take the ghost walking tours. Take that cemetery tour. It's the best. Okay. This A-list singer from an A-list group, all of you know, has also spent a lot of time on television. And judging by some of his most recent actions, I'm guessing the wife found out about the latest mistress.

He also did a very, I hated his Super Bowl halftime special or halftime show. He's in the most boring. Justin Timberlick. If Crocs was, no, if Crocs was a band, it would be this. Oh, Adam Levine. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He is Crocs. He is Crocs. He is Crocs. He is Crocs. He just had to come out and apologize because of how unprofessional they were at a show. I think in Chile, right? That is what this blind item is referencing. Yes.

They think it's because the wife found out about the latest mistress. He recently apologized for his band set at the Vigna del Mar festival in Chile, which was televised. Wow, I can't believe I remembered that. I'm so great. Look at you. They were late, and apparently at one point when the audience was singing along to the song, he said, well, if you want to do my job, go ahead. What is the dumbest response? There's just...

He said in an Instagram story, to be totally frank, there were some things holding me back last night, and I let them get to me. And it impacted how I was behaving on stage, which is unprofessional and I apologize for that. Also, there was like a Chilean pop star who said he was totally doing the thing

where no one was allowed to, like, look at him if he walked in the room, and like, you had to, like, face the wall. Can you ever imagine? Right? Ever even possibly imagine. Being in a place in your life where he's like, don't look at me.

No, you never. Look at me. I am the Jackie Puddle of Judd Zabrowski. How dare you look in my direction? Also, it's Adam Levine. I don't even think I would recognize Adam Levine if I saw him in a grocery store. Like, I know he's famous, but it's like such a generic-ass,

stupid fucking famous that to be like, turn your back to me. He's rocks, man. He's crocs, man. He's crocs. He is the most Starbucksian winter latte or whatever. You could pause, like holiday, frothy, you know. a coffee drink that you can possibly imagine.

This next one is like maybe my favorite. Are you guys ready? I'm so excited to do this to you guys. TV line has learned that the producers of an established series are toying with the idea of ending the current season with a massive timeline shift. According to sources, the length of the time jump being considered is in the neighborhood of five years.

If the trigger ultimately gets pulled on the flash forward twist. It would have enormous implications for a number of the show's current storylines slash characters ahead of next season. If you were talking about Riverdale,

I'll kill myself. Is it Riverdale? Yes. They're gonna... I... Spoiler alert, ladies! You know what? You know what?

Honestly, it's so... Everything... I don't even... I saw this fight out of it. I got so happy. I don't even know how to be mad at Riverdale. No ever deal anymore.

Holden, you don't even understand what Molly and I have been going through. We've been screaming. We are upset. It's been rough. People are suffering. You're suffering. All right, first of all, this might explain the exit of two of the parents, since they'd be less necessary if the core four is all of a sudden 23 years old.

Also, it would put them in the same timeline as Katie Keene. So more crossovers could happen. Have you guys watching Katie Keene? I'm so mad if this is what is happening. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. I'm so mad.

I'm so mad. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. out of college? I wouldn't, nothing surprises me. Nothing would surprise me with Riverdale. Absolutely nothing. We are in no man's land over there.

I wouldn't rip on my hair out. Riverdale, more like River Hell. Hell Dale. I feel like if I, if this, if that is actually what happens, I'm going to go on a one woman protest in the streets of Los Angeles. Hunger Strike.

No, maybe not hunger strike, but maybe. I was like, oh, that bar. I'm going to make a sign, though, and I'm going to have things to yell. Yeah, we are in, I was using a lot of, like, improv analogies last week when Jackie and I were talking, because, like, even if you're creating an alternate reality, that reality still has to have some consistency. You need to have somewhere to hang your hat. Like, if the reality is just changing constantly, Riverdale is toying with us, and I do not care for it. upset. Yeah, you should be.

Thank you for upsetting us. Why did you do this? I was so excited. Was it because the dog was actually a bear? I don't get. Why would you do it? It was Crocs. It was the dog bear. It was Molly's insane hatred of Bid Affleck, completely irrational. It's been so many things this

episode. This episode is a mine field this episode of just torture and horrors. Like, your scary list was like the least scary thing happening in entire episode. I'm over the moon for this episode. Thank you guys so much for joining us this week. But again, really, if that is what happens with Riverdale, I think I'm going to have a mental

break. What happens? Like, where do they go then? What do they do? We're going to find out because we're watching every episode. I don't want to use the word stuck or trap, but those are words that come to mind. But maybe we should. Maybe we should use the phrases, stuck and or trapped. I'm a very hostage situation. Right. We're going to find out. We're going to find out. if that blind item is true because we have to watch every freaking Riverdale. We are doing it for almost. I mean, it's just for there's almost no reason. It's like, it is like living in a

fun purgatory though. How many more episodes are there do now? We don't even know. They don't tell you. They don't tell you. I think maybe 10. They're rewriting the rules as they go hold it. I cannot emphasize enough. You cannot look up the episode guide. Can you imagine? 23 years old, all of them. 23. I might be relieved. Will they still be in the town even?

Do they go to the big city? Do they go to the big city? What's Katie Keen? Have you seen Katie Keene? Jackie's watching Katie Keene. Katie Keene is where they took Josie and they put Josie and Katie Keen and essentially Holden, you should listen to this.

It is Lucy Hale as Katie Keen, Lucy Hale from Pretty Little Liars. Oh God. And she's a fashion designer in New York City. And it feels like it's an different time line for sure. They just took Josie from Riverdale, but Josie is 16 in Riverdale,

and now she's in her 20s, so that's why I'm even more and more furious with the idea. Yeah, so this is what will happen. Did you say two questions? Did you say Pretty Little Liars or Big Little Lies, and who is she from which? Pretty Little Liars, I know, it's impossible. When we were doing our talking over,

I mean, you did it too. When we did the talking over, and I always called it big little liars. Pretty little liars. Oh, she played aria. I didn't even, when she was, because Katie Keen showed up a couple weeks ago in Riverdale. That was Aria? That's Aria, baby.

Oh my God, Jackie, I did not even put two and two together. How embarrassing of me. Don't be, because I think that she is, I think she's had some fillers or something because she does, it's just, which I'm all for, you know, you do you, girl, but she does look a lot older than them for, even though she's not actually. So they take them, they put them in New York, they make one of them pregnant, they, what, I mean, are we even still watching the show at this point? It's a big question. It's, I guess we'll have to revisit it. Well, let's see, I'm still, I'm not giving up on Riverdale.

No, no, we're in it, we're in it for the, a five, you can you imagine? This is what I'm saying. We're going to know if this is true. This is by that is true. Series finale ends with a five-year time jump. Did I just short circuit? Am I, I, I don't know if I'm me anymore. I would not be surprised.

Which is perfect And we'll figure out how If Black Mirror is going to work out Maybe now we have a robot Podcast I forgot about the holograms I didn't even think about that It's in accordance to this show

Being completely cursed I think you curse the show With your list Oh no is this Atram Like the scary movie Where if you watch it you die Uh oh I just ring good You mother buffers

And you all are gonna get Good Alright we gotta get out here All right we gotta go We have to go. We have to go because robot must have juice. We love you guys. Thank you guys so much for joining us this week on a roller coaster of an episode. I had a great time and I hope you guys did too. My name is Jackie Robot Zabrowski and you can follow me on Instagram at Jack Thatworm. I wonder what my captions are going to be like. Technically, they might make more sense if my Instagram captions were written by a robot.

I don't, that's, this is what I'm saying, though. Robots cannot create, cannot recreate certain aspects of human creativity. And I think your Instagram captions are safe, Jackie. Thank you. Thank you. My name is Molly Neffle and I'm MJKL Kat on Insta. Check me out on Twitch with Jackie every Friday night, 6pm, ET, Twitch. dot TV, forward slash Holdenatorshoes, where you can find us also, but also, but also, really, though.

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It is more awful than pretty little liars. I am not okay with this. The name of the show. It's very good, but I do have a hard time with the name. Anyways, check us out, and that's all I have to say about Viet. We love you, guys. And we will talk to you next week. I hope you go get your gibbits.

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