Page 7 - Episode 353: Mr. Clinks-A-Lot

Episode Date: May 14, 2020

We scream about Riverdale time jumps, Anthony Hopkins dancing on tiktok and debate if Lorde is secretly old.Want even more hot goss? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What? Welcome to this place. I'll show you everything. Stop yawning, old. I'm yawning. I'm tired. I'm sucking my energy away from you, you energy vampire. I'm like, I have yawn cries right now, yon tears.

I am giving you the performance of a lifetime over here. Better than Scott Stapp could have ever. for fucking asked for and you're yawning. You're yawning through it. I'll just continue to sip on my cocktail made of gin, St. Germain, and grapefruit juice. Ew. What do you mean?

You're 85. Jackie, you don't say things you can't take back. That sounds delicious. That's nice. Yeah, it's good. It looks like cloudy piss, right? It does look like cloudy piss, you piss drinker. Also, don't say that.

It looks like Snoop Dog's peepee. Um, we'll welcome. Since my perfect performance was ruined by Mr. Clink's a lot over there, that means you're an alcoholic. So that's what your new name is Mr. Clinks a lot. You have a drink for page seven. I don't drink for any podcasts, but you ladies want to make it like a happy hour situation. Yeah, we were. And then we got over it.

Okay, Jackie is on a dime. Let's just get it out of the way. Jackie is, I'm going to use the word unhinged. Jackie's mad. Mad with hunger. She decided to not just cut sugar out of her diet, but what exactly does this cleanse diet consist of that we are all victims of?

I'm eating only vegetables. I mean the only vegetables, nothing on the vegetables, I'm not supposed to be talking about it on here. I promise Jeff I wouldn't talk about it on here. I'm sorry, I didn't need to bring it up. You didn't tell me I couldn't bring it up. Well, the problem is that it's difficult

if you guys know, everyone knows me. You guys listen to me all the time. I'm more on edge. You're going to be like, What is wrong with Jackie? Don't she have COVID? I don't have COVID. I'm just mad.

I'm angry. I want sugar. And everything's going to be fine. Apparently, the first three days is bad. You just sound. You're insane right now. You went through eight emotions just then.

You're so strong. You're having a conversation with no one right now. Like, it is terrifying. And how are we supposed to talk? We have so much we have to talk about Anthony Hopkins being fun. I just can't hide it. I wear my heart on my sleeve.

I am the first person in anyone's life that I can't hide how I feel. How I feel is out there. So this is what we're dealing with today. And everyone's along for the ride. Are you strapped in? I know. I feel like I'm going up the roller coaster and I'm like, oh my God, my harness doesn't work. It's not working.

I'm like trying to show the person controlling the ride that the artist doesn't work. Oh my God, have you ever had that before? No, but that happened to somebody on my roller coaster. I was on the Carolina Cyclone at Paramounts Carrowans, and the guy, we were going, click, click, click up the hill. And this is a roller coaster that did loop to lose, they did twirling twirls, and everything. And there's a big drop right at first,

and we're going up slowly up, you know, how they do, to build the tension. And you just saw this guy in front of you, just going, it's not working! And then they stopped, they stopped the roller coaster. They stopped the roller coaster. we had to get out like one at a time and walk all the way down the stairs. So scary.

Yeah. But can you imagine what that man was going? Like I would. I would be screaming. I would never ride another roller coaster for the rest of my life. No. Of course. Wow.

Yeah. But of course because I was a little kid, we were like psyched. It was like a cool, crazy cool thing that was going on for us. And we got like some like free passes and stuff. And we got to go. fucking should. We got free funnel cakes afterwards. Meanwhile, I want to hear that man tell his version of the story, and I hope that he's

laughing as much as we are. But something tells me that he maybe is never recovered. He was not. I will go ahead and say this is not. I don't want anyone to feel that I am shaming them for not. I just couldn't. I actually couldn't put any of my clothes on anymore. And, you know, when you hit that point in quarantine, when it's everything, it's like,

quarantine wait, quarantine wait. And it's like, oh no. none of my clothes fit. It's like, you know, sometimes you've got to do something drastic. You know, you've got to flip a switch. Hey, I'd talk about, and talk about flipping a switch, I was going to bring this up. We were talking about it before I said, let's save it for the podcast.

Here's a little check-in in my neck of the woods, because I'm going to say right now that, yes, I do consider myself luckier to have a significant other in my life during this. What? Very scary. That comes with its, all I'm saying is that comes with its own. troubles, right? Oh, oh, Lexi's walking past, is she leaving?

Do you have to wait for her to leave? Because I can feel her energy. This is the question I ask her every day when she goes in a walk. Are you leaving me for the next half hour or for the rest of my life? Rest of my life. She says rest of her life. Today is the day. She's walking to L.A.

Then I guess I can really spill the beans at what we fought about. No, but we were like, kind of getting at each other's throats. And we, on Sunday night, we fixed it by buying a puppy. No, we fixed it by having a date night. We both got really dressed up. I lit a bunch of candles. I put on the jazz music. We were dressed really fancy.

Like, I was going to a really nice restaurant. I played bartender all night. I mixed her cocktails all night, gave her the massage, cooked her a nice dinner, did the whole shebang, right? We did kind of whatever she wanted to do. We played some games. We, like, watched some stuff on the TV. And just brought the love back in because everybody's getting

lazy at this stage, right? Like a little bit, or getting a little comfortable with quarantine a little bit. I feel like we've gone through the seven stages of grief with quarantine and we're all accepted it at this point, or most of us have accepted it at this point, but then there's complacency that comes in, right?

Because you don't have the motivation to dress up, because you're like, oh, I'm going to a nice restaurant, so I'm going to dress up. But like, you have to still do stuff like that. And you have to bring the love back in, and it really fix everything. Oh, he's getting grinning. little chum chub over there.

When you want to talk about something that's making, I just immediately sent it to you guys because an amazing person sent it to me on Instagram. If you want to get upset Molly Neffle, Molly Neffle, if you'd like to get upset with me, did you see the link I just sent you about how we can finally, it has been confirmed

that Riverdale is having a significant time jump between now and season five. I am in love with this. Of course, I broke this story to you guys live on page seven as part of my blind items. By far, my favorite blind item ever given to you guys.

How many years are we talking? Five years? Is it really going to be five years? Who knows? Several years, apparently. Fuck off, Riverdale. Jackie, we have to... This is it. We have to stop. We cannot. How many...

Or let me revise the statement. and turn it into a question. How many episodes do we have to watch before we can stop? I don't know. Because we're going to be so mad. I don't know. How can we afford to be madder than we are now?

You're already hopping mad. You can't see straight because you're only eating vegetables. The vegetables are the problem. You've got to be done with this fast by the time this season comes out. I'm already too mad at Riverdale to get madder. But a five-year time jump. to be the age of the actual actors is going to be just so much worse in every way.

So that's what I wanted to ask you guys. What makes you so mad about this time jump? Is it that you need it to be a high school show? I just feel like it's just like they are in the same boat where it's like I feel like everyone threw an ideas into a hat and they pulled out this idea. They're like, all right, cool, let's go there.

What about all of the plot lines we're in the middle of? By the way, it does say the length of the time jump being considered is in the neighborhood of five years. Has anyone ever done a time jump? Has any show ever done a five year time jump from one season to another with success? If so, I will open my mind to it. What show? I mean, I don't know a show that has ever done a time jump. Exactly.

It's not supposed to be done. It's not. supposed to be done. Not that this is, makes it good, but I feel like this is the idea, right? Is that they can essentially reboot the franchise without having to recast the franchise.

Correct. You dig? Yes, it has gone so off the rails. Yeah. And it's a great cast. I mean, I guess it is the kind of thing we keep screaming about how with Friday night lights, they got rid of season two Friday night lights

and just like squashed all of the plot lines that they had had, right? So I guess this is their version of doing that. I'm immediately looking up which shows have the best and the worst time jumps. It seems it's a lot of shows I've never watched. I never got into Glee. I just didn't. I just didn't. And I remember Parks and Rec.

Parks and Rec did the time jump. Going to go ahead and throw it out there didn't really enjoy it. And that's coming from someone that loves Parks and Rec. Yeah. Right. Oh, they did do it. They did do the time. jump. And what essentially

was the result of the time jump in terms of... Kids. I remember they had kids. I remember they had kids. I remember it was just... Really? But it was that last season where I just feel like it was like... I feel like it's almost jumping this shark. And I feel like I'm going to get a lot of hot water saying this. But I didn't really like

the last season. Yes. I think a lot of people feel that... It was like... It was also explaining to where Chris Pratt went away, loss of the weight got really really toned muscle because he's, you know, doing all of his superhero bullshit or whatever. And so it's like, it explains all of that kind of stuff. Yeah. No, there are many shows where the last season sucks ass. And I don't think it means any reflection on, uh, the shows themselves, at least the last season sucks ass. I mean, there's a lot of shows where many of their later

seasons suck ass. But like, I don't even remember parks. I like parks and rec, but I didn't, I don't think that I have, like, have enough of an encyclopedic knowledge of it to, like, have sat down and watched it all the way through it. I don't really know if I've even see in the last season. But like, it's the last, time jump is the last refuge of a scound rule. There is no way that you do that unless you know that you're just fucking off the rails anyway

and you got nothing to lose. Well, I got, I, no, no, there's one more step that you're forgetting. And that is going to definitely be a talking dog. Talking dog is always the sign married with children, did it. It's either that or like a cute, lovable sidekick, like scrappy do that everyone hates

yeah lovable in air quotes because everyone actually hates it or the green Martian and the Flintstones Same with Arrested Development I forgot about Arrested Development's time jump and I love Arrested Development but still it was just kind of

I mean it was fine Yeah it's probably not a good idea for sure and I think that a big part of what's fun about it for you guys is actually the high school stuff Exactly. I'm not trying to watch a show about a bunch of people in their early 20s. Yeah, that's when it gets annoying.

It's like, oh, I'm just this rich 21-year-old in the city. Ugh, life's so hard. Honestly, it's why I couldn't really get into Katie Keen. I want to be into Katie Keen, but I'm not really into it as much. I like the parents. I want the parents involved. That's the thing. The best thing about Riverdale is the parents.

There's no question about it. any episode that relies heavily on any scenes involving all of the parents coming in and kick an ass and taking names is the best ones. The kids are, in my opinion, too young to really be, even though they're all like 26, like they're too young to really be that attractive to me. And they're also just all dumb as rocks. And like the fun of the thing about Riverdale is that they basically were like, okay, what if we took all of them? the heartthrobs, even though I think it is a show for young people, but that, this is something that Jackie and I discuss frequently. Is it a show for young people or isn't it? But the fun thing that they did, I think, for people our age, is that they were just like, okay, what if we just took all

the people who were hot teens in the 90s and we just only cast as adults, the only adults, the only adults in this universe are people who were famous hot teens in the 90s? Great choice. So smart. It's a great choice. Molly Ringwald from the 80s. But like Skeed Ulrich, Luke Perry, obviously, that guy from One Tree Hill. It's just like a, it's like so fun. Chad Michael Murray, you mean? Chad Michael Murray. And so like that like I'm really not there for KJ. APPA.

You know, I'm there for the, you know, thirst trap grownups. Right. And that's why I don't know what's going to. I mean, we're going to keep watching it. You know we're going to keep watching it. Predictions? Any predictions? I don't know.

Who knows? It's impossible. Hold on you. I don't even understand. This show, this show has had fucking organ harvesting. It has had, it has had like a secret coven of nuns

who are drugging children. There's the reanimated corpse. They has had a reanimated corpse. People get maple boarded where they're held down with things over their face and maple syrup is poured on their heads. It has had like four. Four serial killers.

The main character has been buried alive and attacked by a bear. Attacked by a bear. There's a mommy that lives under the stairs that has to wear a doll mask at all times. I mean, there's just anything could happen. Who knows? Anything could happen. Anything can happen. I feel like you guys should get together and write the most bad shit crazy spec script

for the first episode of this next season's time jump. That is a fun idea, actually. I would do that. I would love to do that. And I guess we could definitely be doing that, which I had to send you guys this, because if there is something that screams Holden McNeely, it is the idea that a makeup company is going to be releasing a Chipotle line of makeup. I love it.

I'm throwing this out there truly disgusting. That is truly, I think it's disgusting. It makes me think of I'm going to be taking, I'm going to be smearing the liquid that is squeezed out of my body. and I'm talking about downstairs and you know I don't like talking about downstairs. Yes, sloppers for sure. It feels like your sloppers are going to be smeared on your face and I don't want my sloppers smeared on my face.

First of all, kudos to the design people, the makeup bag that they're selling, this ELF or ELF-EFL's face. Elf, yeah, it's elf makeup, yeah. Chipotle. The makeup bag looks like a wrapped up burrito in tinfoil, which is an excellent choice Because I love that part of it.

I'm so sad. I haven't had Chipotle. Absolutely disgusting. I mean, I feel like I may be having the hardest time dealing with things right now because I haven't had Chipotle since like well before. What do we do? It is the last time I went to New York into Manhattan. Chipotle would make you sick before we even had COVID.

That's the big. That's the thing. But it cleanses as well. What do you got to lose? You know, go get a Chipotle. It just seems like, now I don't know the names of everything yet. But it's like, sure, an ice cream-themed eye shadow palette, I get it. Lip-bomb, but it's like, I draw the line at burrito smear makeup.

And I don't understand why Chipotle teamed up with the makeup company. First of all, there's so many different ingredients that go into Chipotle. It's such a variety of stuff. None of them are ice cream. And the lip balm that tastes like watermelon, you definitely cannot get watermelon. What about like a margarita lip-blame? or something like you can get a margarita at Chipotle. The fuck's going on here.

Stay on brandy. I don't know, dude. I don't know what is going to happen with it. I just know that it makes me the opposite of how I feel whenever I look at Anthony Hopkins' social media presence. I have to bring this up because, again, I feel like I've begged. If you're listening to this, please look up. Anthony Hopkins, he's now just joined TikTok.

He decided to learn the viral. dance for Tootsie Slide. He does the dance, but then also, for some reason, very weirdly aggressively, is, like, is calling out Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger to also join TikTok and do dance battles with him. How do you not love this man? What's his name? Niblo, the little cat, when he's playing the piano and the Niblo comes, it goes, oh, Niblo's come to enjoy the festivities today.

and then he keeps playing the piano. I'm obsessed with Anthony Hopkins. And no, this time it has nothing to do with Legends of the Fall. And you don't think he is sort of losing his mind at all in any way? Who isn't, man? Who the fuck isn't?

Okay, I'll take that. It's very cute. Was he challenging them to a dance contest or was he not just like holding his fists up and being like, Rocky, Rocky! I don't, I mean, I think that he, he wants them to also join. I'm fairly sure.

Yeah, it's like, you're like, he challenged him to a dance contest. Like, I don't think so. I think what he did was he did a weird dance to that song. And then just over and over kept saying, I'll be back. Arnold Schwarzenegger. And then acting like a boxer just saying,

Stallone, Rocky, Stallone. Which I don't think he is maybe all there going on right now. I'm just going to throw it out there. How dare you? How fucking dare you? I don't know what. Honestly, I don't know what I'm going to do whenever he goes because I love, especially with this. I mean, he's just amazing. Have I told you guys about the movie Magic that he's in?

I can't remember if I've talked about it on the show before. There is this movie called Magic. It is from 1978. It's Anthony Hopkins. And he is a, what is it? He's a puppetman. He's a puppetman. What is they called?

This is great for, uh, mom's. Oh, the wheelhouse. Look at this puppet. I looked it up images of it. Wow. It's so weird to see him that young. That young. Anthony Hopkins and Margaret and Burgess Meredith are in this movie where he is a puppetman.

What are they called? Puppeteer. Puppeteer? He's a puppeteer. And he's like a professional puppetman. And he needs a great. He's a ventriloquist. He's a ventriloquist.

He's got his ventriloquist dummy. And so the movie is actually a psychological horror that where he goes like, The puppet wants to kill his girlfriend, who's, like, falling in love with, and he goes out to the middle of nowhere to get away from everyone, because he just needs a break from being so famous for being a puppetman. It's on Shudder. It's, we put it on as a folly, as a lark folly, but it's great. Is it scary?

Yes. Very, and it's upsetting more than anything. And not, like, it's not grotesque. It's not really that violent, if I recall. It's just very upsetting. Wait a minute. I'm so confused by this because Anthony Hopkins in 1978 looked like he's about 10 years old. Yeah.

What year was Silence of the Lambs made? Because it looks like it was made 1991. He looks five decades older. So it was like 14 years later. He looks so young and kind of cute. Uh, yeah. You forget how dreamy his eyes are. He's got a bit of like, he's got kind of like a hotter Mark Hamill.

thing going off. Yeah, I want to drink them like a hop tail. You know what I mean? I know you're really enjoying this right now, but I just want to say this phrase just to bring you back down earth a little bit. Five year time jump. Where are all the parents going to go? They've just created

all of these storylines. What is possibly going to happen? How are they going to possibly wrap up all of the storylines? Well, they're all going to go to New York, right? Probably. And I bet that... No, they're all going to different schools, so I get why they have to do the Time jump. I'm sorry, I shouldn't yell. I have no sugar in my body.

Is Jughead and Blondie still together at this point? Yeah. Yeah. I bet they will, at the beginning of next season, have been broken up for like a few years. Definitely. I bet that will definitely be one of the things, and then it'll be about them getting back together.

Oh, but then do you think it's going to be barchy time, Jackie? Oh, no. Well, they've already, so Holden, they have been flirting with Barchie and bringing back the Betty Archie. plot line. So it could be that maybe, you know, who knows. They're married.

Yes. Oh, not by five years from that. You're right. Marci married. Yes, you're totally right. Marchy married. You don't do a time jump. You know what's another show that did a time jump?

And I don't know if it really counts because it was an actual in real time jump. Fuller House. Is a real time jump. But you loved Fuller House, though. You love Fuller House. I do love Fuller House. I have watched the first three seasons of Fuller House have not watched season four. That's so.

different though, too. That is like, you can absolutely look at those as two different entities. Yeah. Whereas this is not that. This is like the same show just with a five-year, I bet someone, who do you think has a kid by the time, by the time this show picks up? Reggie. Right, yeah. I mean, but you're right, they're going to be married. It's the, the thing that full, the way, the reason I thought of it, the thing that Fuller House and a five-year time dump of Riverdale have in common is that they're trying to resurrect a dead body. You know, you can, Not, did I watch Fuller House? Yes, but is it a good show?

No, not that Full House was a good show either. But like, you just can't, you're just doing CPR on a dead person. You can't make it happen, you know? And that's what, that's what a five-year time jump in Riverdale is. There is no way to experience a five-year time jump in Riverdale without just admitting everybody is dead. Oh, that'd be amazing, though. Wouldn't it be great, though? If Cheryl and Tony were married and then they adopted the twins,

when they adopt Dagwood and Juniper from Cheryl's sister, who Lord knows where the fuck she's been. Certainly not around right now. I bet that Josie and Juggy. Josie's not even around anymore. You wouldn't even understand. Josie did a cross over. Is she going to be in the world?

She'll be in the world of the next show, though, because aren't they going to go to New York where she's a character? That's right, because she's in... I'm mad! I'm mad! I cannot believe we're going to have to watch this, Jackie. I'm so glad this got confirmed. Man.

This was so fun to break to you guys. Unbelievable. You're so pleasurably disappointed by it when I first broke it to you guys. And now that it's finally like most definitely going to happen. I'm sorry, but I'm going to put it out here right now. Don't start a show with characters who are in their sophomore year of high school. You can't do it unless you're planning on committing to ending it when they're seniors. I don't want to know what happens when they go to college.

I don't want to know what happens when they graduate from college. Do we remember Boy Meets World? Yes. Boy Meets World didn't survive the jump. It wasn't as good. It got very weird. It got so weird. Saved by the Bell tried to do college.

Absolutely. Save by the Bell, absolute shit when they went to college. Worse when they did the new class, but absolute trash. Same cast, absolute garbage when they went to college. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. We want high schoolers. We don't want people being.

assholy irresponsible college or young adult people. That's annoying to watch. And, you know, what's a good example of a show that did high school because they acknowledge that kids graduate, then you have to get new characters, Friday Night Lights. Friday Night Lights. Or, you know, DeGrozi did the time jump, but they started with the new generation.

They did that same kind of thing where the adults were the kids became the adults and then they had kids. It made sense. If you two are in the writer's room with me and you're pitching that idea, I would say there is no Riverdale without Archie. There is no Riverdale without Jughead. Like you can't, you can't do that with this show because the specific show centers around these iconic characters that you can't just replace. What you could do, you can do this. A like 20 year time jump and put them all in.

And they're the parents now. Yes, that's the thing. I would follow that. I would definitely follow that. I don't want to watch, I don't want to watch, like, Cole Spouse and, like, aged makeup, you know. Yeah, that's the thing. No, oh, no. You'd have to, you'd have to kind of wait at least 10 years, even to do that.

Yeah. Although I will say how cheeky Cole Spouse is, because on his social media, he had a picture where he shaved, and he has, I believe it's, like, a separated, I don't know what they're called. What is it called, but it's just a mustache and then the, uh, and then, like, a patch of hair on the chin. SoulPat. Where it's, like, kind of separate. A phogo chunk. A pho chunk. A pho.

chunk and he had a fogo chunk. And then the caption was, this is how you, like, divide your fan base, essentially, because he looks like a creepy villain. Yeah. That would be fun. Would him as a creepy villain? Maybe, I think, I think what I would pitch is some sort of actual time refresh. Or why do you even just say, the freshman again?

It's a new story with the same cast, but we're starting over. I like how you're like, you can't bring. in new characters because it's Riverdale and you need Archie, but we could just have them to regenerate in the same bodies and have new... Regenerate. Put them into some sort of, yeah, some sort of time

borg and then they're going oh wee, wee, we, we're making it like Muppet Babies. And they go back to them being babies. Riverdale babies. Riverdale babies. It's the baby version of them. Yes. We're still kissing on each

other. Those babies keep kissing. Make them stop. kissing and it's very upsetting. All these babies are already gay. I'm fine with it. I think it's great. They already know themselves and I'm proud of them. The best thing about Riverdale is how gay these babies are.

How woke those babies are as well. And how woke they are. Someone that is not a baby, he's a full grown man. Oh, wow. She is getting good at these transitions. Got to talk about Joe Mangonello. Yes. I have to. I have to talk about this thunderbird of a man who I just want to climb like he is the great wall in China. And he is just everything I've ever wanted.

And on top of that, which I had no idea, I guess I was living under a hole. Yes, I am talking about Joe Mangonello from True Blood, husband of Sophia Vergara, very attractive man. We talked about him in the Pee-Wee-Herman episode, the Paul Ruman's episode, Paul Ruman's episode because he was very cheeky and delightful in the latest Pee-Wee Herman movie, but also apparently a huge D&D enthusiast. Not only that, but he's had a two-and-a-half-year campaign going with Vince Vaughn and Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Merello and also Game of Thrones co-creator D.B. Weiss. But to the point that he has built a dungeon inside of his basement,

where they play. He also has a clothing line inspired by Dungeons and Dragons. Isn't that, is he the ultimate nerd boy? Does this make you angry, Holden, that this is actually what a nerd boy can look like? No, not at all. I'm, no, whatever.

Your brother minded that. Henry was so mad. I said it to Henry and he's like, he's stealing my culture. No, it's so crazy to see in my lifetime Dungeons and Dragons, video games, all of these things. We were so heavily ridiculed for being into sci-fi, Star Wars. All of these things are now totally cool.

Everybody's doing it. Yeah, dog. It's kind of hard. I mean, at this point, I feel like many people have at least tried Dungeons and Dragons or a game of its kind at this point to at least understand how it works. I mean, it's amazing, you know? And this is super cool. The cool thing about this, I think, is like,

he has this dungeon where literally they can say anything. One example is like, a druid transforms someone into a weasel. And he's like, what color weasel? And they're like, uh, red with black stripes. And he goes and gets a little miniature weasel that's red with black stripes and puts it down on the table. And look at all his toys. I love him.

And his awesome maps and stuff. I don't get to play with any of that stuff. By the way, on Carly's stream, Carl's Badspeed on Twitch, we do a, we're actually doing it this Saturday. It's called Starfinder, but it's a sci-fi type of D&D sort of campaign. And check it out. We're having a lot of fun with it. But yeah, and if you're curious about getting into a game and even during quarantine times, check out roll 20, I believe.net, but either way, check out roll 20. There are communities out there. You can find games to be a part of or create one yourself digitally, and we do it via Zoom.

and we were doing that before this happened, so we're still able to do campaigns, and that's what they're doing now to observe social distancing, even Mangello's campaign. But I want to hang out in his dungeon, man, and I hope they get really high in there as well. How cute are they?

It's so awesome. I mean, what a dream to be able to build something. I mean, I even just wish for the place to keep a puzzle out at all times, but the fact that he can have this entire, space, which like, that's awesome. Live your fucking dream, man. He worked so hard for it.

Build that dungeon. And then it's like, you go down there, which is great. Sophia Vergara can still find him very sexually attractive because he keeps it in the dungeon. Yeah. And it was also really inspired. Like, everybody should do a version of this with whatever game. It doesn't matter is he was really inspired by watching his grandparents and their friends

playing Pinochle as a kid and just seeing them. have so much fun and it's such a community building thing and he wanted one for himself as he got older and just took to D&D but game nights are so important they they really are I think as just a way to maintain friendships and build strong bonds as long as it's like not mean see this is my I get scared I can't play I can't do it I can't do it yeah you too you get to competitive I don't like my whole thing is like I feel bad if I win you know what I mean like that's where I'm at I stopped liking games because I felt like I hate I hate people who are competitive I don't hate people who are competitive let me rephrase that I do not like the feeling

of competition and when people for example and every cooking show I watch they always say I'm a very competitive person anyone who identifies as a competitive person run yeah I feel that is my problem is that I immediately see honestly hold and I think that we because we do. I think that actually all three of us could probably play games together because as long as I'm with people that aren't shoving it in my face or putting me down or making it like if I know that it's like a like oh I'm gonna fucking beat your ass like that kind of thing I immediately get so angry so mad. Yeah yeah yeah. But it's like can't we just all get along? The difference you doing me, Jackie and how we deal with our emotions is that I just shut down. I just I just retreat. If somebody

is like like fucking peacocking about there, I'm like all right, we'll just forget it. I'm like, I've always, I don't like games and I've always thought it's because I'm the youngest in the family and when I was a kid and we would play games, I would always be the worst at them because I was the youngest because I was eight and I didn't know any trivia.

How am I supposed to play trivial pursuit? And so I would always get very, and also I had a terrible frustration tolerance as a kid as I still do. And I just got really upset and I would throw a big fit because I would always lose and then everybody would be like oh, relax.

And I'd be like, I don't want to relax. And so I just like have a really negative I do not like board games. But then, like, sometimes I'll play it. Like, I have a friend who's really into game night. And whenever she comes over, she's like, let's play Scatterories. And I always have a good time. But I do have a negative association with game nights.

Maybe that is what it is. Maybe it's because all three of us are the youngest, that it really is. It's just immediate upset. But if you have I will say, that's why so many people flock to D&D, because if you, unless you have a dickhead dungeon master or a bad egg in the group that just sucks and is trying to bring the whole thing down. But I mean, at this point, we're adults enough to hopefully you don't have those types of people

in your basic community. Either way, you're working together. It's a co-op game. I played that one tabletop game, and I loved it. Yeah. My name was Dorothea, and I had all the, I forgot what the word is, but no one could ever see that I was around

because it was an old woman, so everyone just assumed that I was a nothing, but I would sneak in, and I would go immediately, And it's like with my poison darts start killing everybody because everyone's like, oh, just this old woman, she's not going to bother anybody, but she was the deadliest. But I got to say, though, this Game Night crew does,

it's a real roller coaster. It's Vince Vaughan, Tom Morello, a wrestler named Paul the Big Show, right, who I'm not familiar with. The Big Show. Game of Thrones, co-creator, D.B. Weiss. But really, the real, roller coaster for me was Vince Vaughan and Tom Morello because I like Tomarello a lot. I think he's

like very politically righteous and I cannot deal with Vince Fawn so I'm like so baffled by this little crew that he's got. Well that's the thing too though you you're not those people when you enter the dungeon you're your character. Oh huh, don the cop. I think that it's very very cute and I think it's very wholesome and especially with something like this where you sit around a friend hours, Jared Logan, who's a great comedian, great writer, he was working on this idea. And I believe that he still is, which is so smart. And Molly, I feel like it's something that eventually, obviously, the next like five years or so, it's playing these games with kids because it is such a huge, like, it's such a, like,

you can do whatever you want. You can, you just have to create these characters and create what's going to happen. And I never really realized that that's what these games were. that whatever you create, whatever you come up with can be. I don't know if I, I must not have talked about this on the show when it happened, but a couple years ago, a family friend of ours turned eight years old, and he was really into Dungeons and Dragons. And so he asked if Gideon could dungeon master a game with like 10, 8-year-olds for his birthday party.

And Gideon spent so much time on it. It was like, he was like up all night writing all this stuff. And he did not quite know, like, the attention span that eight-year-olds have at, like, a birthday party. It was, like, a 20-minute game. But he had, like, he had just, like, scrolls and scrolls of character development that he had looked up. I love it. But it was so, I was like, you know, I don't enjoy the fantasy. And so I was, like, a little bit, like, not super.

I was like, ah, I don't want to. Dungeon Dragon's not my thing. But, of course, I love hanging out with kids. And I love imaginative. play and it's a lot like improv as he has told me because it's a lot of just mutual creation it's a lot of improv and it was really cute to watch the eight year olds play they were like so so hype and it was actually extremely sweet to see uh like it's yeah it's like it's like a it's like creative writing improv collaboration uh all together like and so i totally get it mixed mixed with

game mechanics and stuff so you can be really you can be really nerdy and technical about it if that's your or you could just enjoy the storytelling and character stuff, if that's your thing. You know what you got to do, Molly. You got to bring out Charles MacArthur, right? Charles MacArthur? Charlie McCarthy. Charlie McCarthy.

I was close. My ventralicist dummy. I don't know if he would have... You think that he wants to play? Maybe you don't want to play, but maybe he wants to play, is all I'm saying. Although that is a great horror movie. You write that about it. It's like, oh, we were just playing D&D, but then the puppet became the character.

Yeah, it's a combination of 1978's magic and... And Dungeons and Dragons, very scary. Very scary. Is it as scary as this celebrity conspiracy? Who is it today? Who is trying to lie to us, Holden? And we could be 40, 40. 48 years old before we put out my masterpiece.

And he got me mini-grammys. Yes, that's right. Lord. That was great, Holden. I can't go ahead of the spot too. I didn't. Is Lord actually 48 years old? Yes.

At this point, maybe even in her 50s. Because these rumors started quite a little while ago. So here we go. Lord, right, releases the smash hit royals at just 16 years old. Or so she claims. Oh, my God. In 2012, this led to Grammy wins massive stardom. She claimed she was born in 1996.

Evidence says otherwise. Okay, so no, you, all right, so look up a picture of Lord if you're not familiar with her. She wrote that song that old, and was just parading royals, and she was so young. But if you listen to, what's melodrama, her last album? I love her last album. Oh, my God. I think it's one of my favorite albums. It's very good.

It's very good. And she's so talented. She's talented beyond her ears. Which is she 40 years talented. Is she? But wait, can I just stop for one second, a quick second to say, wait. Royals came out in 2012? Yeah, dog.

What? Yes, bro. Fuck me. Jesus. Eight years ago. I remember that like it was yesterday. Yeah, dog. I know you.

I would have said three. years ago. Yeah, Bree Bra. That's really gonna, that's really gonna fuck with me, Holden. Yeah, it should fuck with you a lot, dude. Dude, der. The song lyric from her song, team is interesting that I wrote down here.

I'm kind of older than I was when I reveled without a care. Very fascinating evidence. This is a really funny one. There was one time she was talking to a reporter for an online magazine called Rookie. And she said that the Virgin suicides, quote, really resonated with me as a teenager.

I mean, I am still a teenager. Whoa. Brian, what is that? When asked by a Vanity Fair reporter if she had seen the internet conspiracies about her age, she just said deadpan directly to the reporter, Hi, I'm Ella, and I'm actually 45. Her real name is Ella. Yeah.

Ella Marie Jalani. So here's a little evidence that she might actually be who she says she is at the age she said she was. A Jezebel reporter Emma Carmichle paid New Zealand $17.2 for a copy of Ella Marija Lonnie Yelick's birth certificate. And got not an actual birth certificate, but a birth registration data printout that showed she was born on November 6th. 7th, 1996. My wife's birthday, actually. But isn't that a really creepy fucking thing to do? Right.

To pay to get someone's birth certificate? That is weird, but there's a lot of rumors, Jackie. Yeah, if you're a celebrity blagger, that's a fun thing. Yeah, I guess. But this is the thing. This is an easily doctor document. She was also promised an actual birth certificate to be in her possession, like eventually, like in the next couple weeks.

Here's some more evidence that she's not. not 40. Deadspin reporter Ashley Feinberg follows up with Miss Carmichael years later. Miss Carmichael informs her she never did actually receive

that real birth certificate. Bum, bomb, bam! Yes. After that revelation, Emma went to the site Howold.net, how dash old.net, which we should actually mess around with.

Yeah, immediately going there. It attempts to calculate a person's age based on uploading a photo of them. Okay? It's not accurate at all. But she tested it, she tested it out on a bunch of different people from colleagues to politicians

such as Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz. Every single instance, the software underestimated their ages by at least a few years and by a decade in some cases. Except for Lord. Oh my God. In one photo,

Lord's age was estimated to be at 30 and another photo she was 36, and finally one photo had her at 49 years old. The photo claimed she was 20 at the time, which came out to an average of 40 years old. So do you think, so my mom has, my mom lost my birth certificate. She has my other siblings' birth certificates.

Do you think she was trying to cover up? Maybe I'm actually 21 years. Are you orphan? I am an orphan. I am a 21-year-old orphan. I should, I barely should have been drinking all of these years. I apparently drank, I drank way too early. Someone put me into some sort of rehabilitation home.

I'm way too young to be this beautiful and this, and this far along in my career. Well, unfortunately, Jackie, I will be ignoring your cries for help. No, Holden, please. I'm going to be the next, I'm going to have to be the next one. You're going to dig into my past, my past next week. Talk to the hand because the ear ain't listening. Oh, because I'm so young and you don't trust what I have to say.

I don't trust young people as far as I could fucking throw them across the room. So, ladies, I'm going to go and say this is the first celebrity conspiracy. I kind of think I might believe. Wow. I think Lord is lying about her age. Yes. What do you guys think? 100%.

I can see it. Talk about it. Time jump. Am I right? No, don't you dare. Don't you dare, Holden McNeely. You're getting to put into the ground bringing up to time jump. And what's so funny about that website being like overestimating her age is that the universal 100% experience of anyone who has ever looked at a photograph of Lord is to say, wow, she looks like she's 40.

Like, so she just does. She just looks like she's 40s. So it's hilarious at this website. How there's anything wrong with that either? No. She's beautiful. She's beautiful, but she just does look like she's 40s. She looks very, very much in her 40s.

I don't know what's going on there. Maybe she's in her 40s. Maybe she just has some weird jack-like disease, like the movie Jack with Robin Williams, where she looks like she's in her. Oh, I knew what she made. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, that movie is rough.

Very upsetting. Very, very upsetting. Very sad. Especially because there's a real one. So I shouldn't bring up the jack disease. But I'm just saying she does look like she's 40. No, she really does. I mean, we were just saying this about Anthony Hopkins.

Anthony Hopkins looks like he's been in his, he was 10 and then he was 55. Yeah. You know, there was no in between. Right. Right. So, all right, we all believe it then, huh? Yes. We all believe it.

100%. Give me her. Don't go on how old. Dot net, by the way, because apparently it's a, it's a bad site. It's a scary site. Is it a boring site? I opened it up and my computer was like,

you don't want to go here. And I was like, okay. Sorry. It's time for the list. Oh. Who's on the list? Jackie. Got that list.

So I went down. I definitely went down at work time about a list. which we didn't even get into, and that's okay, celebrities and their ghost encounters. Oh, fantastic. Well, I mean, Natalie brings up a celebrity ghost encounter almost every episode of pop history. She loves it. She loves celebrity ghost stories. She's always talking about celebrity ghost stories, which is a wonderful show.

And I recently saw that Christopher Maloney, which Yum, Yum and My Tom Tom, he is currently selling a haunted house. So I went down a little worm time. and I found myself a list, which is 23 celebrities who have had actual ghost encounters. And of course, who is number one on the list? I feel like it makes complete sense. It's Kristen Stewart. She says she talks to ghosts. She says, if I'm in a weird small town making a movie and I'm in a strange apartment,

I will literally be like, no, please, I cannot deal. Anyone else, but it cannot be me. Who knows what ghosts are? But there is an energy that I'm really sensitive to, not just with ghosts, but with people. People stain rooms all the time. And yes, that made me feel like that she's sitting in her own dukies and smeared it on the walls,

just like the Chipotle makeup. I've definitely stained some rooms, if you know what I mean. But Kristen Stewart has big, I see ghosts everywhere I go by us, you know. Hold'in, was that dukees or cumbies? Come, coms. Definitely cummys.

Definitely cummys. And I feel like another one. Make sense on this list? Helena Bonham Carter. Definitely. As she prepared to take over Vanessa Kirby's portrayal of Princess Margaret for season three of the Crown, which she is amazing. And Helena Bottom Carter sought approval straight from the late royal herself with the help of a psychic medium. She says, my main thing when you play someone who is real, you kind of want their blessing because you have a responsibility. She said, apparently, she was glad it was me. She said, you're better than the other actress that they were thinking of. They will not. who it was, it was me and somebody else. That made me think maybe she is here. Maybe that is classic Margaret thing to say.

She was really good at complimenting you and putting you down at the same time. So apparently she also said that, then she said, get the smoking right. I smoked in a very particular way. The cigarette holder was as much a weapon for expression as it was for smoking. Do you believe it? Yeah. I definitely believe she believes it. Yes.

I definitely believe she believes it. And does that, do you think that means that someday I will have sex with a ghost? Because I believe in it. I think you have had sex with a ghost and you don't realize it. Has Jeffrey been dead this whole time? No, don't six cents me! That's why he never talks. He just goes, oh, oh, my, now it makes so much.

Oh, my God. What do I do? Every time I do. How's L.A.? How are you doing these days? No wonder he has, he's just like the invisible man. He's always all wrapped up so I can see him. And he's always wearing trench coats.

And I'm like, Jeff, it's too hot. Take the trench coat off. You know who else is scared? Kendall Jenner. Yeah, whatever. No, not because she's actually. She is a fright, a horrifying human being. Go on.

I will say she's very scary. She looks otherworldly, I will say. She does. She does. She's seen something. Yes. And she says in the house my mom lives in, Kylie and I would always hear footsteps on the roof. No one was home.

Maybe it was Santa Claus. Kylie's shower used to turn on all the time. We never knew why. So yeah, I'm convinced it was a ghost. Have you guys ever heard a ghost? When I hang out, when I was a child and I hung out with friends, like when I was like under, I'm going to say 11 years old, and I hung out with friends who very much believed in ghosts and I stayed at their houses. it was spooky and I would believe in ghosts during that time.

And then I would go home and get my head right. And I would be like, you know what? I was just in a strange house in a dark nighttime at other people's homes and they were getting me all scared. And so I've been there where I'm like, bloody bear is here. But I don't think I have truly interacted with a ghost. But I'm open to it. I've been scared before, of course. but yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say, I think,

and I've talked about this at length with Lexi, who's a lot more open to the spiritual world. I personally, I think I am too logic-brained, and my head is too closed off to even the notion of it. So, like, I don't actually, I've never actually experienced anything. Yeah, be open. You got to be open. You have to, if you want it, you got to be open,

you got to feel around for it. I definitely believe in ghosts. I believe in energies. I'm all into that kind of stuff. I'm definitely a scully more than a molder, but there have been a handful of times where I, like, where I, like, that I felt or experienced something that I was like, I truly feel like I did experience an energy there and I don't, the scully and me does not know how to explain it. Right. She wants to believe, but do you want to believe Lucy Hale? Because Lucy Hale says she has a ghost in her house.

I'm talking Lucy Hale from Pretty Little Lires. Everything. You skipped over, Gigi Hadid, Chloe's a thing. Oh, yeah. I'm skipping. I'm skipping over because I wanted to get right to the juice. Because Lucy Hale says doors close, not slam, but they close. And I have a motion sensor that lights up in my apartment, and I swear it lights up sometimes

when there's nothing under it. And my dog barks a lot. I don't feel threatened, that threatened, but it definitely freaks. me out. I will say, Henry's current place of living, the apartment that he lives in, is definitely haunted. There's something

in there. I don't know what it is. You creeps me out about Henry's apartment, too. We both slept there. There's a weird feeling inside of the house. Yeah, sometimes I get a weird vibe. I mean, I will say, I'm going to call out your brother and say he's not the best at interior

decorating, so I think that in certain ways, it just feels off because you're like, why is the table here? Why is there a chair over it? You know what I mean? That'll make it feel haunted. Yeah, feng shui is not his number one thing. Yeah, it just makes it feel off a little bit.

Like, why is everything like just not in a conducively sort of laid out way for comfort? Was this the place you live, Jackie? Yes. And I never so, so now whenever I watch Wendy, I sleep in the living room and I sleep on a blowup mattress in the living room and it's weird in the living room. Like, I actually told him, it was like, I can't stay there. anymore. I had to start bringing Wendy to my house. So what, what, yeah, what were the experiences that they had had and that you had had?

Like, they were actual legit stuff. Henry swears that he calls it the Gremlin. Things move in the house. And he also, which I will say that I, I can support this notion. And I don't know if it's just because he's a bit of a tornado of a human being. But he puts his keys in the same. place. He puts his keys in the same place every day. He always puts his keys in the same place. And there was one time he couldn't find the key. Like to the point, he's just like, I have no

idea where possibly the keys could be. I have no idea. And he'll lose them every once in a while. But they were zipped up in a suitcase that he hadn't touched in like two weeks. That's cool. And he's like, I didn't put them in there. There's no reason. I left the house yesterday. there's no reason why they should be in there. And they feel a presence that they feel like that they don't, the presence doesn't want them there anymore. But also I'm not going to get into the whole thing. But we've talked to neighbors before and a dude that does not believe in spirits of any kind

has told us about this one presence that he has seen the outline of multiple times in the parking garage. And he's like, it's crazy. He's like, I was walking and I heard footsteps why. like there was someone behind me. And I looked back and there was nothing. And then I turned and I walked back again. So it was the kind of door where you have to unlock it with a key because it locks automatically. And he heard the footsteps again.

So he had a bunch of stuff in his hand. So he held the door open because it's obviously someone was coming right behind him. He turned around, nobody there, but then he felt something go through his body. And that was it. And he's like, I don't believe in this stuff. I don't know what it is. But whatever it is, it's unhappy. Wow, yeah.

And hasn't, and haven't other neighbors corroborated this garage thing? Yes. Yeah. And not in the same conversation either. In different conversations that we had had with people, someone had left, had moved out twice, and for some weird circumstances, moved back into the building twice. And all three times of them living there, because they had to. to move back to that specific spot, they were, like, terrorized in this place.

I think L.A. is one of the most haunted cities. I think L.A., New Orleans. Yeah. Chicago, like, more even so than New York. L.A. has a vibe to it. There is just so much shady shit happening behind closed doors in L.A. That I feel like that's what makes it just so damn haunted, you know? It's a city of secrets.

Oh, my God. Wait, there might actually be a ghost in this apartment. Something appears to be covering up my eyeballs, closing my eyelids against my, or maybe I'm going blindly. You can't. Yeah, we didn't do that, right? I forgot how to do it.

Thank you so much for joining me for blind items, listeners at home and Molly and Jackie. Today will be a real doozy. It's actually not that much. Thank you. It's very normal. It's very normal. I'm excited for it, babies.

This first one's a lot of fun. Apparently, this permanent A-list, mostly movie actors, said something to his publicity team because they reached out to everyone who wrote about the actor's new movie concept. They were not reaching out, though, about the project, but rather the photo everyone seemed to be using, which was never approved by the actor

and is one he hates. It makes them look at least a decade older, and you have to squint to realize it's him. So you... And it's not Lord because it's... Yeah, it's a guy. not Lord. It is a hilarious photo. I did look it up and it does make him look

older. He's a guy that does his own stunts. He's a very daredevily. Tom Cruz. Yes. Oh. That was almost too obvious. Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. And it's so funny. Look up Tom Cruise talking about it because he plans to shoot a film in outer space

with the help of NASA and SpaceX. And if you look up like an article like I think mine was TMZ, it is a pretty terrible photo of it. It's like from below he's got like an extra chin it's like so hilariously like he's like hasn't shaved in a few days

like he just looks good he just looks a little rough rough you know he does like that bad you know because it's still Tom Cruise of course not he's still Tom Cruise he's completely made up at all times it's so funny like it's

I just love that that would be a thing but like hey can you not use that photo it sounds like a curbiour enthusiasm for this you know what I mean it's also it makes me think of like when Beyonce was like get rid of all the pictures of me that makes me look bad. I don't even

know if she necessarily said that's probably a PR person that did it. But when they like scour the internet to take down forever pictures that are bad of them where it's like, can you imagine I have thousands of bad emotions with me. Yikes. So many of them.

For me, every one of them. Next up we've got... That's not true. You got a couple nice pictures. Whatever! Even her own publicist has no idea what to do any longer about the strange world in which the permanent A-plus-plus list singer resides. We are witnessing in real-time what happens to someone when the powers that be decided your

time is up and the celebrity melts down instead of going away silently until some lifetime achievement award in a decade or so. Madonna. Yeah, you got it right. It's Madonna? Oh, I thought it was going to be Maria Carrie, my bad. No, she recently attended a party in person after saying she recently took a test the other day as she is quoted to say, and I found out I have the antibodies.

and also that she planned to, quote, go for a long drive in the car to breathe in the COVID-19 air. The COVID-19 air. She was seen hugging celebrity photographer Stephen Klein in videos, which led to a bunch of criticism for not following social distancing guidelines.

After she said she had, like, gotten it and stuff, it's just, she's just, she's not being smart about the way that she's, but she's, she's kind of been a disaster since MDMA, I feel. She's been falling apart for a while. Yeah, she's been having a rough one. And I feel like it's got to be hard to be a celebrity who thrives on constant, like, events and, like, you know, confirmation of how awesome you are.

You're Madonna. Oh, my God, Madonna's here. It doesn't matter if you've been mediocre for a while. And thriving on constantly reinventing yourself successfully. Right, right. So when you start doing it unsuccessfully because you're maybe, I don't know, getting a little out of touch. Right. Getting like not embracing the fact that you are getting into older age.

And, you know, that's its own phase in life. And that doesn't mean you can't reinvent yourself in old age. But I feel like she's she's trying to do it in the ways she used to do it. And you got to find like different new ways to do that. But also right now you don't have an audience. You know, if you're used to having an audience by going people where, like, if you're used to having an audience by going places and having the kind of high that comes with that, then it is hard out there to be somebody who needs the eyes of a lot of others to see you

in order to feel fulfilled. For sure. Well, I imagine it's also probably fairly easy to be like, I'm older and I'm an icon. I can say whatever I want to say. Right. But in times like this, it's like, you really can't. Well, this is the funny paradox for the celebrity right now. You thrive on attention.

You thrive on an audience and things. things like that and therefore love to say put things out into the ether and have people look at it and respond to it. And at the same time, essentially if you're living in a mansion right now, you really don't have, there's really nothing you're going to say that's going to be like go go give money to someone. Right. But there's nothing you're going to do or say on an Instagram post right now that's going to give you, get you anything other than like for the most part like criticism and stuff, especially when you're trying to like talk about the pandemic.

I mean, if you're not talking about the pandemic, or you're doing whatever, but it's when it's, when you're trying to say some profound shit about what's going on, it just, it is like a deflated basketball. It's just like a dirty, you know, uh,

shit in the sub, in the tunnels of the subway. You know, it just plops down in the ground. The bird might pick at it, but nothing else is going to want to get near it. Ugh, it's just, it's a smear, man. It's just, you're just shitting all over the place when she's in her

Tub talking about the great equilibrium and how it's just making us all equal. Now get fucked, Madonna. Dude, you're done. All right, final one for the day. I hope it does not curse you for the rest of your lives. I also hope it doesn't. Lots of celebrities are on this personalized website to interact with fans and make a few bucks. This back in the day, B-plus list actress from an entertainment family also has ways fans can get up

close and personal with her on video or in person. They just have to send her an email and express an interest in being her, quote, sponsor. Sponsor like an AA sponsor? I think like to sort of give her money for some sort of sexual exchange, I think. Oh. No. Is it Lindsay Lowen? No, that's a good obvious guess.

She's definitely fallen from Grace as of late with issues. We mentioned her in a pop history episode, not. too long ago because she is in a movie we talked about. Is she in the same generation as Lindsay Lohan? Yeah, I think so. Maybe a little older. A little older. And we mentioned her in a pop history episode.

Yes, we did an episode about a very fun movie. Was it clueless? Was it, yes, it was clueless. Oh, no, Steve Ced dash. No, it's Stacy Dash. She was currently selling videos. She's great, dog. Yeah, she's been very bad.

She's crazy. She's bad. And she's been selling videos to fans for $50 on cameo, but apparently you can get some other sort of funner videos, some might consider, by emailing this. I mean, she's beautiful, but it doesn't beat out the crazy that lives inside her brain. Oh my God, I can see again, and I see my friends, and I never, ever, ever want the show to end.

But of course it will because it's an hour 10 and that's around the time the show ends. But first I'm just going to do, I've got just a couple shoutouts that I want to do. And thank you guys so much for hitting me up. I love hearing from you guys. And oh, I forgot that I was going to talk about Mary Kate Olson and Olivier Sarkozy's divorce. But you know what? I didn't even see it coming. So I guess that's all I'm going to say about it.

When you marry a full-grown man, you kind of creepest at this point. But I do want to send a shout out to Wonderful Sophie. Your sister Kim wants to say, congratulations on graduating college. This is her second go-round of going to college because her mom went through a lot of bad health stuff. I'm not going to get into it right now. But she took time off, had a rough time. She went back to college. now she can't get the proper graduation, even though she's worked so fucking hard to get it.

So I just want to say that we here are proud of you and your sister Kim is also proud of you, Sophie, for killing it, for just for doing the most, for going through a divorce, for getting, for working through all of it and getting your congratulations here on page seven. And we love you. And that's so fucking amazing because I will say I didn't deserve the graduation I got. I'm going to throw that out there because I think a lot more people are not getting graduations this year

because I definitely just drank my way through college so by the end I was like, I guess I got my theater degree. Yeah. I also want to send a birthday fun time shout out to my friend, your husband hit me up. His name is Daniel

and I wanted to say happy 30, well I shouldn't say, I just can't say somebody's age. Happy birthday to Tara who is thick. with child. She is thick with a child and she is going to be having a baby in July and your husband loves you so much, Tara.

And he just wanted to give you a shout out because, you know, also, Molly, you understand. You just had your first Mother's Day where you weren't thick with child where you could have celebrated and then you couldn't because of the global pandemic. So, you know, again, and I propose this. I don't know if I've said this on this. the show yet. I really think if you have someone in your life, especially through the bad times, if they had a birthday,

have another birthday for him. I've given Jeff the opportunity. He could choose whatever date he wants. We'll have another birthday where we can go out and spend time with friends and have fun things to do. And, you know, we just have to look to the future because the sun is shining and good

times are ahead. I can feel it. No sugar and a five-year time jumps. Again, you know, no, right. Get used to it. I need. Someone get me a soda and a piece of candy. I made it through, though. I barely yelled at this episode, guys.

Yeah. You really found your inner not hungry person. Thank you. You found your inner, not hungry person. Man, you want to talk about hangary. Oh, man, I have been frowning. I'm working on my frowning skills. All right.

This is good. your time jump. So we'll talk to you guys next week, no sugar. And, uh, yeah, until then, um, we don't have a sign off. You were about to start singing talking TV. I could feel like, though. I know, I was about to start singing and talking TV. But you don't get to hear that song unless you join our Patreon. Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash whizbrew. I'm sorry, Patreon.com on page seven podcast. How dare you? You traitor? But check out that other podcast on here. Another Patreon as well.

But also, yes, no, please, page 7 podcast on Patreon. It is at least, at the very least, an episode of talking TV a week with Jackie and I for just $5. But Jackie's adding a bunch of extra stuff on there, too. So it's fantastic. I do want to give myself a shout out right now because, guys, today, I just recorded the last chapter of Modeland by Tyra Banks. Wow. We did it. We did it.

We did it together. How did you like the ending? We did it together. It is the end of a book. And we did it. And I'm so excited. And you can listen to the entire audiobook on our Patreon page. And guys, I'm just going to go ahead and say it now.

I've decided that the next audio book I'm going to do is Rebels City of Indra, the story of Lex and Libya. by V-1s, the only Kylie and Kendall Jenner. I am excited about this journey. Come join me on the journey before I get a season to assist. And I'm going to keep going until I get one, though. I'll tell you what.

Keep it going. Until then, you can check us out Twitch.com. Holdenadershoef. Jack and I do a stream at 6pm every Friday, and it's always a party. It's been so much fun these days to hang out with everybody.

And we need to be hanging out right now. Molly? I am MJK LKat on Instagram We love you guys so much Thank you for joining us And you know what? I'll have sugar again someday I will guys

Just one more week and a half And I'll get back to it It's gonna be great Five years time jump Bye Bye shows like the one you just listened to, go to lastpodcastnetwork.com.