Page 7 - Episode 364: Brit Brain

Episode Date: July 30, 2020

We goss about Emmy noms, Chrissy Teigen's tactless tweeting and Taylor Swift's new album.Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7PodcastKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License...d under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:08 Splish splash, I was taking a bath. All about a Saturday night. I took a bath over the weekend. I thought about this song. Rubbed up, just relaxing in a dove. I think it every day was all right. When I stepped down to tub, I put my feet on the floor. I wrapped a dollar around me, and I opened the door.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And then a splash, I jumped back in the bath. Where I was out of know that there was party going on. Did you ever dance to that? What is it? Not Dance Dance Revolution. But it's another video game dancing game that there was a, it was a crocodile and he had, and he stood up on his hind legs.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And he danced this song and he was in the tub. And then he would get out of the tub and then you had to follow his dance moves. Hey guys, welcome to page seven. What's up? I can't talk because I'm busy Googling this because I thought I knew every dance video game. There's some sort of crocodile or it's a or maybe I'm thinking of a, I just remember a crocodile dancing to it somewhere.
Starting point is 00:01:15 If you hear this and you know what I'm talking about, please let me know. It looks like there's some wee workouts and also just dance kids both have crocodile avatar. I'm not sure if that's what you're thinking of. I believe it's one of the, I think it is one of those. Could be a wee workout. Yeah, I think it was a wee workout that I used to. to do when like the wee workouts first started. I'm talking back in the day when we were doing, you know, like the boxing and I would
Starting point is 00:01:42 huff and puff because I was doing the boxing. Damn, you're making me want to play a dance video game right now. I mean, what are the go-toes? What are we talking about? Were you a dance-dance revolution nerd? Or are we talking more just like just dance and all the connects? You talking to me? Because I was the dance-dance revolution.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I didn't get to do it at arcades enough. But if I could have been, I would have been that. freak at the arcade that everyone turns their heads and is like, whoa, what? Well, I just like, just stop and flail my feet around. I was really good. There's only a few things I've ever gotten very good at in my life. Dance Dance Revolution. I can't imagine that's true, but please continue. I mean, like that thing where you're like, you start at something, you know, I tried piano, didn't get that good at it. I tried bass guitar, got, man, okay at it. I tried trumpet. I got really good at trumpet because of the ska interest.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And, you know, so dance dance revolution is one of those things. I started it. Wasn't that good at first. And I kept at it. And boy, did I get good at Dance Dance Revolution. I would invite my friends over. I'd ask him to play and nobody wanted to play with me because I was too good. Dude.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I wish. How did you get so good at it, though? You would just go to the arcades? No, I had an at home. It was a PlayStation 1 game and you could buy a mat that you plugged in. So I had it in my basement. And I had to spend hours playing dance dance revolution by myself in my basement. So, yeah, we did an episode on Dance Revolution for Wizard and the Bruiser, got the whole history of it and everything.
Starting point is 00:03:11 But what's most interesting about DDR is its community. I'm surprised you to have a guru. Because a lot of DDR is getting shepherded in by a guru because it's not actual dancing, would you say? It is not. It is not dancing. No, I've always wanted to be a dancer. I ended up as an actor, and that was really my kind of second choice craft. I was wanted to be a dancer, but I just never, it just never worked out.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And so that was my outlet. You got too confused by what dancing was by picking up a game called Dance Revolution and then not actually ever dancing. It's all really about just getting those tutsies on those pad points very specifically and bizarrely. I feel like you were talking about this as if you were not good at this game holding. I'm going to go ahead and assume. I'm fucking terrible at this game. Maybe I'm making an ass out of a meme. I'm making an ass, Mimi.
Starting point is 00:04:02 But are you bad at Dance Dance Revolution? I'm fucking horrendous at Dance Dance Revolution. I love to watch you try. It's crazy. And I've watched a lot of documentary, I mean, obviously in preparation for the episode, but also just out of a bizarre curiosity, because you watch these people, and there's these handrails behind them. And they lean back on the handrail,
Starting point is 00:04:24 and essentially their legs just sort of do this, like their legs act as two fingers. really just kind of poking around on these pads and they're all very slender I know that you did a whole episode on this but please just enlighten me if you could as some person that is I've only played Dance Since Revolution once
Starting point is 00:04:44 and I did definitely make a video of Henry's first time on a DDR in public and he looked like what do you call oh like a like a flamingo but after the Queen of Hearts has already used the flamingo for broke as the Are you supposed to use the pipe behind you? Kind of, or a lot of people do.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's definitely optional, you know, but I would say that it is a thing that, like, a lot of pros use because their arms and everything tire out completely. And, you know, or I'm sorry, their legs and everything tire out completely from being up on their feet at all times. They need to put some of that weight somewhere and have a little control. Also, they flinging themselves around somewhere so they'll fly right off the pad. It's very dangerous
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's very dangerous We didn't There wasn't in Dubuque Iowa There wasn't an arcade that had it And so the first time I saw someone play it I think we were on a school trip And I guess I'll call him my guru He was like a real fun nerd
Starting point is 00:05:43 Who was in the comedy The high school comedy group with me Who was like a real kind of Valour dragon shirt type of kid Who he was the first one who did Dance Revolution in front of me And he was like real He was the real deal
Starting point is 00:05:55 I was good at it But I was never like you know. Are you saying your guru was a Jamie Kennedy type? Is this where it all Arkansas back to? It might have been a bit of Jamie Kennedy's situation. And so I saw it in an arcade, but then I was like, I must have it. And then I got the home version.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But I never got to show off my skills in the arcade. It was just a private, you know, joy. I'm glad it was that you never actually did because I think that you may have, and I trust that you were skilled, Molly. But I think you may have been severely disappointed by the, competition. Whoa. You're saying that I wasn't that skills.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It's like when I play fighting games and I don't play anyone real and I'm like, wow, I'm really good at this game. And then I go playing at someone else and they're like, no, no, no. You are very bad at it. I don't think I could have been in a documentary. Yeah, yeah, exactly. If I play anyone in pool at a pool hole that is not someone I know, we are going to be reminded at how fucking bad we are.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah, but that's why. Everyone loves to play pool against me. If you want to look really good, no matter what your skill is, play pool against me. I am the worst. I am like laughably the worst pool player, but also very, very frustrating because I refuse to get better at it. And there was a time period when I was like, I'm going to be a pool shark. But I don't have the savvy for it.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And also I don't have the length for it. I know that you can get up and you could do sexy and you can side strut on the side of the pool table. But I've always been too fat and I was always too scared. that the pool table was going to fall over. Right, which would be quite embarrassing. I don't want to put half of my ass up there and be like, oh, let me just slide this big old meat patty up here. It's more than it then becomes a slide and you end up rolling off of the slide.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I think that's the embarrassing part, right? It's actually the awkward roll that you then have to make once it breaks and sprawl onto the floor. There's a lot of physics going on that just lead towards absolute 100% maximum embarrassment. It's also, it's hard to look. I think that it's like you can imagine that you might look, one could imagine that one might look sexy doing like a lean on a pool table, you know, or like a backwards or like a, but I think that it's actually,
Starting point is 00:08:13 I always feel like a small child trying to like crawl onto a table to get a cookie or something. You know, it's like your feet are up in the air, you're all splayed, you know, it's not actually that. And you're going, ah, ah. Which is essentially the sound I make like a little pig in my kitchen every time I need to get to one of the higher-up shelves. Because I refuse to get out the step ladder. So I'll hoist myself up on the counter. I just go, so if you hear that sound, you know Jackie's in trouble and she's hunting for truffles.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But other than that, you know, I feel great. And it is just dance on we that I was referring to. It is not the song Splish Splash. It is a different song. I was just dreaming of the crocodile in bands. You know, it's like I feel like dancing games can also be a fever dream. Like when you hear a song that was on rock band and it's like, oh, man, I remember I don't know this song anywhere else except for playing it over and over on rock band because I was
Starting point is 00:09:20 never good at rock band except if I was singing Fleetwood Max go your own way. Other than that, I was horrible at it. But I remember Holden the year that you had it set up in you and Ben Kissel's apartment. Yes. And you forced us to play every night. Yeah, yeah. There was just constant rock band. Our roommate Kep loved us for it too.
Starting point is 00:09:42 He couldn't get enough of trying to go to sleep for his nine to five job and hearing us just so loudly playing the same songs over and over again. Fucking Mr. I don't even what behind blue eyes or whatever it was at two. in the morning. Oh, God. Do you remember the movie PCU when he's talking about David Spade's character and he's talking about how awful he was to have his roommate? And then there's that flashback where the real terror was actually him.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He would come in hammered and like make his life a living hell all through freshman year. Right? Yes. He's like, yeah, right? And, and I just, one, I need to send Kepa card, is what I'm saying. I need to send him a card and let him know that it really was. traumatizing what we did to him in that apartment because he definitely was very professional. Definitely got to work right on time every morning at 9 a.m.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, but isn't it fun when you can abuse the patience of a roommate? We partied so loudly. Think of all the years when you were young that you abused the patience of someone that you lived with and just going like, sorry. And you buy him a bottle of whiskey. We show up with like 10 people deep on a fucking Thursday, not, you know, on the clock at the morning. You're when the bars closed. I was always at your guys' house on a house.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Sunday because it was after roundtable but it was like yeah why not just stay at your guys's house till 2.30 in the morning on a Sunday night someone's trying to sleep usually someone trying to sleep it's so crazy it just chain smoking too in the living room and he had horrible asthma horrible asthma but he never cleaned so that's what they would even know guys I was the only one that clean I have a friend I have a friend who I need to also do send a card I I've been thinking about how I was the bad roommate. The two weekends in a row, the first me and my friend had made caramel apple tini's because we wanted to make regular appletinis, but we could only find caramel apple schnaps.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And so we were like totally hammered just making caramel. And this was in a dorm room, a college dorm room, my sophomore year of college. So very much a shared room. You know, I had my half. And we were just like, I guess, just very sloppily making caramel appletinis, getting caramel apple tini everywhere and so i got a call from her like i don't remember if it was that night or the next day she was like can you come clean up the caramel appletinis and then the next week the next saturday night my extremely uh weird actor friend had for some reason brought a pig skull um into the dorm
Starting point is 00:12:17 and for our pre-party and then we were getting hammered with the pig skull left the pig skull in the room went out and continued to get hammered and i got a call later that was like can you come get your big skull and it was just like gradually escalating. That was a real piece. At the time I was like, you're so uptight. And now I'm like, I need to send you a card. You're so uptight. Man, it is just, sorry not to go down reminiscent whole zone over here.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But it really, there are times when I'm just like, man, we used to be so fun. We used to be so crazy. And they're just like, man, we were horribly obnoxious. What a nightmare I was to live with. I would be out hammered until 3 o'clock in the morning and then I'd wake up at 5 a.m. to go to work and just always pissed off. Always angry about it.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Give me another appalatine. Carmelize it. That's what I started saying. Every time I get home from work to poor Jeff, Jeff, calmize it for me. Turn into the work witch. But I love that. Then, yes, we used to be horrible.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You know, I was thinking about this the other day because I've had an open bottle of wine for like three weeks in my fridge, which you're not supposed to do. But don't worry, it was a $5 bottle of wine. And I hadn't finished yet. And I was like, remember back in the day when I would look at a bottle of wine and be like, how did I not finish? Like, I sit down and drink an entire bottle of wine. And that's just simply not the case anymore. I was even just complaining because I can't drink White Claws anymore. I'm too old for White Claws.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah, I'm drinking a white claw right now and it's a real gamble. Half the time I drink a white claw, I feel like shit afterwards. Horrible shit, even after a couple. And yet, you know, we're just chasing the dragon, baby. Chasing the dragon in the same way, that Schitt's Creek was chasing an unbelievable dragon that they didn't think that they could capture. I don't care about the Emmys anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I will say that straight up. But what I am happy for is that Chits Creek got nominated across the board. Best comedy series. Also, all four of them got their own nominations. I just, I've never, I feel like it's the same kind of way. I feel when you're like watching Meredith at first sight and I see from the first season that they have multiple spinoff shows.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And I was like, remember you cried on your wedding day? Remember when you cried on your wedding day and now you got kids? You got multiple shows. And I look at Schitt's Creek and I go, oh my God, my babies. It's like my plant babies. It's like my little garden. It's like when I nurse my little peppers up to my nipple and I pretend like the peppers are a baby. And then I'm feeding the peppers.
Starting point is 00:15:03 That's a scary thing to say. But you know what I mean? I felt the same way. Also, what we do in the shadows also got some very solid recognition, which made me really happy. I felt like the great got a little robbed. It was only like one thing for the great that I saw. But either way, I am also so excited. I hope it's going to be more.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I feel like it's got to be more than just the noms that the show should. at least Catherine O'Hara, at least. Give me Catherine O'Hara up on that podium holding that statue, making that speech, and I'll be happy. Except not up on the podium, because it's going to be virtual. Oh, right. So from her home, it's going to be virtual now, which I understand. I mean, I get it. You know, why you have to move it later on at the beginning of next year?
Starting point is 00:15:46 But isn't this a weird time or am I being crazy? Has all of this been jumbled up, like, when they usually release this information? Oh, I have no idea. It always... Do I not know what month it is anymore? I'm just so unaware of when stuff should get announced and how all the awards happen. I'm always like, oh, they're tweeting about the Emmys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Oh, look at them go! I also love that Annie Murphy got the nom. So happy for... Daniel Levy not only got the nom for a supporting actor, but also for writing and other things. Like, specifically for an episode he wrote, I believe, the finale episode. also, also. I didn't realize that Eugene Levy and Captain O'Hara are considered the leads and that Daniel and that Alexis and I wonder if they did that in a way to make sure that all of them got nominated.
Starting point is 00:16:36 They all got nominated. I feel like I don't think that they are the leads. Yeah. I think that is completely a cohesive. It's an ensemble. It's a, they are a family. Yeah, they're all the leads or they're all supporting. Like no one is.
Starting point is 00:16:51 But anyway. I thought that was kind of funny, but either way, very happy. It is funny. It does feel like your child got an A on a math test and they're really bad at math or something. You know what I mean? Like, you're just... Yeah, or like you're milking the peppers from your garden. Yeah, when you put your nipples in the pepper's mouths.
Starting point is 00:17:06 So, wait, I have a confession. So recently we were faced with what show to watch next and we had it narrowed down to the series Hannibal or Schitts Creek. And Jackie, I know you identify with my... complete aversion to watching comedy. I don't want to watch comedy. I feel similar. I've seen enough. I get it. And so I was like, and I was like, I know
Starting point is 00:17:31 people love Schitt's Creek, Jackie and Holden love Schitt's Creek. People think it's so good, but, and both either now, we're like, it's a comedy. And so we chose Hannibal and Hannibal is a lot of fun, and now I've also, in the last week, watch Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon, and so we're on like a fun Hannibal
Starting point is 00:17:47 kick. It's been a week. You know. You know. You never in the horror world. Look at you. Once you pop the fun, don't stop Neffle over here. But I thought maybe for any listeners who have not watched Schitt's Creek
Starting point is 00:18:00 but are curious, but also might be, I mean, probably most people don't hate comedy like us because we just spent so much time in it. But like, what is so, people love it so much. Like, why is it so wonderful? Can I sell you on this? Okay, because I'm a person who does not like to watch comedy.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Okay? I'm the perfect person. to sell you on this. I think, all right, and also I'm going to throw this out there, didn't love the first episode, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:28 So I would say, just try, just give it a shot for more than just one episode, all right? So the first episode kind of had trappings of stuff that I'm not a huge fan of, right? Just people being jerks for no reason,
Starting point is 00:18:40 you know, and blah, blah, blah, right? So, so, but what I will say is this. It's,
Starting point is 00:18:45 though it has, is laugh out loud funny at points, it doesn't feel like it's in your face being a comedy. Like if anything, it's more interesting from a character standpoint. It's really fun storytelling. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:02 And it's more about like these little things that build up over time that you notice these little character details. But I just think it is to say that it's not just like constantly trying to make you laugh, in other words. Right. It's not a laugh a minute. It's a character build. Yeah, you don't feel, you don't feel
Starting point is 00:19:18 like you're being bombarded with comedy. Like, it feels like very well balanced. And honestly, when it gets really good, it's both tear jerky and funny, like, at the same time where you're almost like, is this even a comedy anymore? Okay. You know what I mean? There are many episodes that you don't laugh at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Which is why it's like things like why I love BoJack Horseman, with that immediately you look and you're like, oh, it's a comedy. It's like, that's not a fucking comedy. I've cried more to BoJack Horseman than I've cried to most television shows. And honestly, the same for Schitts Creek, because you love them as people, because of the way that they're created, you look at it and you're like, oh, it's just rich people, not rich anymore. Okay. Like, I've seen that a thousand times. It's so much more than that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. And I would also say for me and Lexi, it was our, like, I would almost call it like a lazy river show. Because it was like our end of the night, I just want to lay on an inner tube on a lazy river and just. coast through these lovely people and they're fun but never too upsetting conflicts. You know what I mean? Oh, I love that. Like it's that. That's a great metaphor, the lazy river.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, right? It's a great come-down show for Hannibal even. And it's also short so you can just jump in 20 minutes. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah. And I think that that's the way you kind of look at it.
Starting point is 00:20:42 This is my come-down show. And we really stretched it out that way. It wasn't something we binged. We would literally just watch one or two episodes at the end of the night before bed because it was the perfect come down from the day just to like kind of let each ease you into bed with something just lovely and with no true stakes. And much as it can be tear-jurkey, it's not because people are dying or anything. It's just sweet.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It's when people are really sweet to each other. Oh, yeah. I know. Teary-eyed. And also, and one other person that to add on to this list of people that also hates comedy, but loves Schitt's Creek Henry and Natalie man we finally got them and they were
Starting point is 00:21:22 they were just like we're obsessed with it they didn't want to be obsessed either it's great that's what's the best part about this show is I understand if you're not into it I mean I do get it but I feel like you wouldn't understand me as a person if you really hated this show because of I'm sure they're out there
Starting point is 00:21:39 I've literally never seen a person who gave that show a shot and didn't enjoy that show I've literally and I'm sure they'll let me know this week that they exist. But after me saying it, but I have not met a single person who said a single bad thing about the show. I mean, I say the same thing about my yacht rock playlist,
Starting point is 00:21:58 but I just want to give a quick shout out and a thank you to everyone that listened to my yacht rock playlist and talked about the things that it reminded them of because it definitely reminds me of someone that I lost in the past. And so when I listen to it and you're feeling those feelings that I put into it, I just want to say that every time you listen to it, feel the hug for me because I put hugs in the Spotify playlist. Is that dumb to say? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Jackie, I have to tell you, so Gideon is firmly in the generation of X. And so I've been listening to the Yat Rock playlist. And he's like, this is just like, he was like, today he said, just listening to this makes me feel like I'm mad at a girl for not liking me. Like it's this, he was like, this is like the back street boy is to me, you know, like this is transported. me back to that time. That makes me so perfectly happy, but I know something else
Starting point is 00:22:54 that's been making Holden happy that we must discuss. How dare you not let me talk about Taylor Swift? I am allowing you, I am giving you your set platform. I said I would give you your time. The mic is yours.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I implore your opinion. I can just see. Folklore. I can just see the thumbs hovering over that little like skip the next 30 seconds of this podcast. But then I'm about to launch it to my. Well, they'll have to edit it a few times. But either way, Taylor said, no, we don't even have to dig into it super long.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's just fucking great. And I love that she. Molly, you listen to folklore yet. No, but the first thing I wanted to do was text Holden, but then I saw him tweeting. And I was like, all right. And I knew we would talk about it here. But I was so, I was more excited for Holden than I was for Taylor Swift. We went and got champagne for it.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It dropped at midnight. You got champagne. We had a little listening party, Lexi and I. I immediately wanted to put it on again. I put on a few songs that really stood out to me, like as soon as it was done. It's that kind of album for me. I absolutely loved it. It's like this kind of weird, almost indie approach.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Obviously, the people behind it. She did 11 of the 16 songs with a guy from the national. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. And how many did she do with Bonnie Vair too? And Bonnie Vair is on one of the tracks because the guy, Aaron Dresner from the National. And Jack Antonoff also did some work on it as well. He's, you know, the one that she's been collaborating with since 1989.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But either way, yeah. So apparently she just like, I think actually she met Joe Alwyn. Sorry if I'm getting this wrong, but she met Joe Alwyn, I believe, through mutual friends at a national concert. And you're talking about her current beau. Yeah. And the national, I've seen a couple times. I've never been like a huge national fan, but I've always appreciated their work and everything.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I saw them once in Bono and I saw them once open for arcade fire and they were great. And, um, but she just hid him up with a text according to him saying just like, hey, do you want to work on some music together? And then sent him like a, and he had a bunch of stuff he was working on. And one of my thoughts going into quarantine,
Starting point is 00:25:03 one of my like, well, on the brighter side thoughts, I was like, well, at least maybe a bunch of my favorite artists will put out a bunch of cool work because they're stuck at home. and what do prolific artists do
Starting point is 00:25:14 but put out a bunch of cool work when they're in a situation like that. Or put out audiobooks of Modeland and Rebels City, the story of Lex and Libya that almost no one is asking for. Yeah, this is what we do. And in my case, just pump hundreds of hours
Starting point is 00:25:28 into a bunch of mindless video games that I'll never remember in five years. But either way, she ends up sending him, I believe, a fully recorded voice memo of all of the lyrics for the song Cardigan. and I think it kind of started there. And that was, if you want to say something, it has a lead single, that would be it,
Starting point is 00:25:47 even though it really isn't a single album. It's like an indie, low-key kind of, I mean, and I think that also speaks towards, like, the way they had to record it, which was super remotely. So a lot of the songs are very stripped down feeling and very simple and very small and very quiet and delicate. It's a very, it's a very back of the day, like OG indie sound. that honestly, I was straight up, I was cutting my peppers that I had just taken out of the garden
Starting point is 00:26:17 and the wind was going through the house and I was cutting of the peppers and I was listening to folklore and I was just like, and I still had my big sun hat on and I was just like, this feels so right. And then I was just like, Jesus Christ, Jackie, what are you doing? Go, ugh, go break something apart.
Starting point is 00:26:37 You're smiling too hard right now. It is definitely something that gets into your soul. Yes, and makes you like, but it's got some really beautiful, really harrowing. I love the song Elicit Affairs, which is about cheating, and it just paints that picture so well.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And by the way, don't worry, guys. I think, I'm pretty sure T. Swift and Joe Alvin are still perfectly okay. These, these breakup songs, these breakup songs are fictional or folklore. They are about fake. They're about fake characters. stuff like that. Also, last great American, well, I love Last Great American Dynasty, but also the song
Starting point is 00:27:16 Cardigan and the song, um, uh, Betty. Number One is really good, too. The one is amazing, but the song Betty and the song Cardigan, like it's, it's similar, it's the same characters even doing callbacks and interwoven. Some are saying that the whole album centers around. It's like a whole steady album. Yeah, yeah. It's got, yeah. And again, you bring up, it's like this, I hate calling it indie at all because it's not fucking indie it's Taylor Swift it's not an indie off. No, she's a huge pop star but this is definitely it's not her usual sound
Starting point is 00:27:48 yeah but it's not as bright as her sound as her sound because I like her usual sound but also I love you know it sounds like all the things you're describing make me think of like I'm wide awake it's morning and like you know like that sounds nice it's very nice and and it's very much like well Lexi
Starting point is 00:28:07 even always said it you know she she's like man every time it's just her in a guitar or just her and a piano like in concert or whatever it's always so much at least for lexie's so much better right i love her big pop stuff too though but this is an album of that which i think people were really wanting like since red you know essentially where red was this in-between point of her more stripped down or her just with the guitar or whatever and her big pop stuff that she would get more and more into and this album's just in general like a more even album is what i'm seeing from the glowing reviews across the board, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Everyone really is digging it too. It is the first T-Sway album that I've listened to multiple times. Wow. The weekend that it came out. Wow. Yeah, I think Molly you'll actually legitimately like this album. I had another friend of mine. Shout out to Garon who was like, I guess she posted on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So like, I guess I'm a Swifty now. I just like threw on the new album out of curiosity and like all of a sudden I'm like crying. Yes. It's a beauty. It's like, you know, and we can move on and whatever, but I just, it's such a cool thing. And the other thing I'll say is just how her own label didn't know she was dropping the album into like hours before. She usually makes this big fanfare about her albums. You slowly get tricklings of like, you know, there were like months of two singles getting released in music videos before lover dropped.
Starting point is 00:29:32 You know what I mean? And I just love that she just said, fuck it. Here's the album. Here you go. You know what I mean? So shout us, shout us to Charlie X-EX. She put out a great quarantine album.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I love these people who are taking this time to bring this kind of joy and this kind of work to the world. And it inspires me. I'm like, where's my screenplay? Like, that's crazy. Like, I should have had a screenplay by now
Starting point is 00:29:56 and these sorts of things. Well, there's been a lot of tracks. Yeah, it's a pandemic. It's been a lot going on. Yeah. We have to be okay. No need to be productive. Totally.
Starting point is 00:30:06 But I love that some. people are and it helps me when I get something new during this time when I'm watching a lot of old movies because there's no new movies and I'm catching up on old video games because you know what I mean? So to get something new is just so special right now, you know, when it feels like the whole world is stopped. And so I appreciate it. Also, yes, and talk about soul smiling. We talked about this on our episode of talking TV this week, but Molly, again, I implore you. Love on the spectrum is a... Yeah, that's what I've heard. It's a beautiful. I love it. I'm so mad. It's only five episodes. We finished it last night. We watched four of the five
Starting point is 00:30:44 episodes the night before. We were so addicted to it. We stayed up. It was the show. We were like, we were like, fuck it. We're just going to stay up till 3.30 in the morning. I have to see that, like, I have to watch this. Jeff thought something like big happened because I came in and I had this huge smile on my face and then he thought the smile was for him. And I was like, no, it's not. It's for love of Spectra. Get away from me. I'm smiling for their love. Not. hours. I've been a Kremlin. Okay, guys. And then there are times, because you know what, he's had to deal with me for now, week three of going through the Britney Spears stuff and talking about towards him every time he comes in the room about how I feel about that. And then there
Starting point is 00:31:26 are times he comes into the room. And I had just read about Ryan Reynolds, who, you know what, everything you read about him is very feel good. Sometimes I get concerned. about how feel good someone is because I have a problem trusting people sometimes. But this is actually a really beautiful story. And I got through it because I was reading about Taylor Swift's album. Because apparently there's some sort of word out that it is possible that Taylor Swift leaked Blake Lively's baby's name because of the song Betty. But this was because, like, so I clicked on it because of it.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Talk about Wormtime that Ryan Reynolds. stepped up to help this Vancouver woman tried to recover a stolen teddy bear that had, oh God, I was sobbing about this. I'm not going to cry right now. That it was, it's one of those builda bears that has the recordings inside of it and her mother was dying from cancer
Starting point is 00:32:27 and before she went to hospice, she recorded in the bear, I love you, I'm proud of you, I'll always be with you. you and then the bear got stolen and it was the last memory she had of her mother. He is definitely crying. Now I'm crying just watching you talk. It's very moving. So it's really take it away Holden. So she had had this recording of her mother on it saying like I love you and all this stuff. It's like this recording that she has and you're saying it nonchalant. You have to say
Starting point is 00:33:03 it with purpose. Yeah. Someone stole the bag. which is very upsetting. And then, you know, they were just like, give us the bag back. And it got a lot of attention. Ryan Reynolds then offers $5,000 to get the back. I don't know. So today we wake up and there's a video, there's a very tear jerky video of her hugging the bear
Starting point is 00:33:22 and saying mama's home. And, you know, that was. And so she did get the bear back. I don't know if the person, I don't know the nature of the person giving it back, though. I don't know if the $5,000 got paid out. I don't know. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:34 I don't really. Also, Zach Braff, take her, leave him. I know that a lot of people aren't a huge Zach Brak fan, but he also said that he would add $5,000 to the return of the bear, which again, I know there are much bigger things that they should be putting their money towards right now, and I'm aware there are much bigger issues right now. But there's just something about the small thing of somebody looking at anyone saying, hey, I can help you at least get the word out. And that kind of thing that really does bring a smile to my heart that we need right now, even just these little microcosm stories.
Starting point is 00:34:06 of positive things because again what we all need to be doing is trying to be mask face of trying to like put positive energy from eyes to eyes to other people. I feel like every person I see I try to like make eye contact with and do like the eyebrow smile. So they can see like I'm just they can feel my positive energy and I'm trying desperately to put a little bit more positive personal energy out there. So it's these kind of stories that we need to remind ourselves that Everybody is just people. And me on your screaming about the idea of celebrity culture, they are still just people at the end of the day. And this was a nice thing to do.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah. Agreed. Absolutely. I should also say, if we didn't exactly say what it was, love and the spectrum is about people with autism on the autism spectrum trying to date and trying to like figure that out. And it's just a very sweet, it's very, it's hard to describe why it brings so much joy. Because it's unscripted. I think that it is part of it that I truly, because it's also, it's a British show. Yeah, they're so genuine.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, it's an Australian show. Or also, I think about what didn't have that charm with the dialect and everything too and the cutciness of the way this show. But also, it doesn't feel exploitative per se. That's really what it is. I think it's because it's not American. It doesn't feel exploitative at all.
Starting point is 00:35:28 You root for these people. And I would say maybe someone could make the argument that it is exploitative or whatever, but I will say it made me one. to go learn a lot more about autism. So, and I think it does serve that purpose. And you really root for them and you want them to find love so badly. And it just also reminds you like, God, dating is so fucking hard. Now let's get these people to date who have horrible social, uh, cue issues.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Awareness skills. Or people that have had to work hard at having social awareness skills. And you see how, God, how hard it is. Dating already. It sucks. It sucks. And then to see them and there. And I,
Starting point is 00:36:08 you know, I don't use this word off to these people misuse it all the time. But like, these people are fucking brave, man. Like I don't know how to describe it. Like you just feel like they're just so incredible to, to, to have the,
Starting point is 00:36:21 the courage to meet a person in public and through their disability still attempt to get to know each other and try to find someone that they can share a life with. You know, and, Yeah, and you also meet amazing parents and family structures that make you want to cry and stuff because there just seems like such incredible people. Because it's difficult. You work with kids, Molly.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I mean, it's like, I know that you're aware. It's like it is something that, well, sorry, we talked about this on talking TV, but Molly, you should definitely watch the show. I think that you would really enjoy it. I think that it would bring a smile to your soul. So I just wanted to explain to people what it was. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, for sure, for sure, for sure. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I'm excited to watch it and also, because I think there's been a generally, like, pretty terrible portrayal of people with autism on TV shows, you know? Like, it's all just kind of, like, magical and, like, really dehumanizing. Or very one-sided of, like, you just can't talk to them. It's like, that's not, right, right, right. Yeah. No. And there's, like, yeah, there's so much, like, yeah, there's so much, like, depth there
Starting point is 00:37:30 that should, that I think, you know, stories that could be. told in a more kind of like equal way. Every story is different. They're in a different part of the spectrum too. And I think that really you see that when they're forced to get to know each other as strangers. And you're just like, wow, there's so, yes, this is all the same kind of thing. But there's so much nuance here that people don't realize. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Cool. All right. I'm putting it on the list. After Hannibal. There you go. After Hannibal. What a way to end Hannibal. And something else that I do, I've been meeting to discuss on the show, and I think that it's something that we should talk about is the incident that happened concerning Megan the Stallion that happened a couple weeks ago, that is something that is not really being discussed very openly right now.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And I think that it's something that we should really bring up of the fact that Megan the Stallion was shot twice, right? Yeah, and her feet? A couple, yes, earlier this month. Yeah. Yes. So rapper Tony Linnez allegedly shot at Megan the Stallion and her friend Kelsey Nicole after the three argued at a party. This was in L.A. And there's no information out about the incident that had occurred until they, so people were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:38:56 People were talking about it. No one was bringing it up in, like there's no. huge articles about it. No one is. It's not at the forefront of any discussions right now. And until now, Megan the Stallion came on Instagram live to openly talk about what happened to her. And she said, I was shot in both of my feet. And I had to get surgery to get that shit taken out, get the bullets taken out. And it was super scary. And she's crying in this Instagram live video of talking about what she had to go through and what she went through. And essentially being treated as if, well, what did you do to deserve it?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah. Well, it's coming from it at a point where, no, this is such a bigger conversation, especially with the social changes that are happening right now, that this needs to be a part of the conversation. This is violence against a black person that no one is even bringing up. This is on top of the fact that we have all of the memes with, you know, arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor, which that even hasn't been dealt with. I know we should. didn't get too far into this because I do want to, I want to talk to you guys about this and hear how you feel about it. Yeah, I think, you know, if you watch the Instagram video, she's in tears. And I think the big thing, too, was that people not just were like saying stuff like that to her, but also trying to make a big fun joke out of it all. And making, yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It was like, treated like it was a laughable. Making jokes. about what happened, which like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Right. It was like this laughable thing as opposed to like violence against women, like you said, Jackie. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And violence against black women specifically. And it just clearly was not a funny situation for her. And yeah. Yeah, and Chrissy Teakin, she apologized afterwards, but she had put out it to me of like, I have a Megan the Stallion joke, but it needs to be twerked on. And it was about the situation that had happened. It's like, a woman was shot.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Yeah. A human being was shot. And all you're doing is making jokes about it. And I think that maybe being embroiled in all of the Britney Spears, I keep call it my Brit brain right now, of looking at how the media portrays things that occur in celebrity culture and how it is either chosen as something that like, oh, well, we're going to put this into the let's joke about it category.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Or let's not discuss it when it comes to the conservatorship of Britney Spears. or, you know, things like that that are being brought to light now that have never really been talked about to an extent. Where it's like they even bring up the idea of Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown's relationship. And it's like, what about what was happening to Whitney Houston all those years? Right. What about all of that that everyone knew was happening? But nobody did anything to save her. And it is, but there's also the point where it goes so far to the other end of social justice warriors online that think that,
Starting point is 00:41:59 what they are saying what they are doing matters the most and that's not enough or it's pushing people into a whole of like free hashtag free brittany which we'll talk about on our last episode next week of brittany spears it that also your ideas of what you think are helping i don't think are and it's scary when you have we have this wealth of knowledge on the internet now that we think we know everything that's happening in every situation. And we don't. We don't know these people. We don't know what Megan the Stallion was going through when she got shot. All we knew was that someone was shot and that the person should be held accountable that did it. And it shouldn't be a joke. Bringing up Whitney is a good point though, because I think especially with pop culture stuff,
Starting point is 00:42:48 like I think that there is like a kind of the intersection of like casual racism and casual sexism where it's just like, oh, this rapper got shot in the feet, L-O-W-W. and it's at or you know like oh Whitney Houston what a mess L.O.L. Bobby Brown L.O.L. And like like the kind of yeah and the kind of like just very like gradual and casual dehumanizing of certain celebrities. I mean all celebrities you know we've been talking for the last few months about like we don't have a ton of tears to shed for a lot of celebrities right now because they're like super
Starting point is 00:43:22 rich quarantine in their wonderful homes with their lovely staff. But but then I think that like the Megan the Stallion thing is like the other side of that where it's like this woman just got shot. It's violence. Yeah, exactly. Right. And Chrissy Teagan's like, ha ha. Like a rapper got shot.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And like so I think that there is like a very good. I think that that is a very cogent connection to make between her and Whitney. Not knowing. I don't know much about Megan the Stallion at all. But like I think that what they have in common there, right, is like being black women whose like pain isn't taken seriously. Right. That or Hayden Panetteer who was openly and did it was something that.
Starting point is 00:43:57 we had been reading about for years in a physically, truly brutally, emotionally and physically abusive relationship with the man that the dude just kept getting arrested. Everyone's like, man, she's getting beat up again, huh? Yeah, right. Yeah. What do you mean? And like, honestly, even though, like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:15 I think the Rihanna thing is like maybe in a different category because that obviously did get a lot of attention, like the Rihanna and Chris Brown thing. But it also got memed, right? I feel like as soon as something gets kind of like, You know, things just kind of get one-dimensional after it's like, oh, Chris Brown, woman beat her. Yes, and also really what it was is they made jokes about her
Starting point is 00:44:36 for getting back, they're getting back together with him. And it was the jokes that were made. It's like, that is an abusive cycle that she was trapped inside of. There's a fucking difference. Right, right, right, right. Watch sleeping with the enemy, for God's sakes. Not to describe, not that that is the same thing. But sorry, I don't really have anywhere I'm going with this.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I just wanted to bring it up. Please read into what happened to Megan the Stallion. And it is just... I will say for the record, Taylor Swift is also a victim somehow. Sure, sure, I would like to throw that out there. I know professionally, her songs are... Somehow, I'll figure out how she is. But she's...
Starting point is 00:45:20 But yeah, definitely check out that Instagram post, I think, for Megan the Stallum, because she really shows her emotion there and shows her true self in a lot of ways and puts it in perspective. And also, I really dug her music before, but I never really looked into who she was as a person. And she's fucking fighting every day to do what she wants to do.
Starting point is 00:45:43 She's also talking about how in that Instagram story, she's like, I lost both my parents. I have to fight for myself so fucking hard all my life. And this shit, and I have to deal with this shit from people. And then people making fun of her. When I was getting, like, while I'm in the middle of getting, like, surgical operations done on my fucking feet,
Starting point is 00:46:03 I got people online treating this like a meme. Oh, okay. And then also you have to go to the hospital in the middle of a fucking pandemic. So on top of everything else, when L.A. is a fucking hotbed of nightmare right now. Yeah, whatever. Like, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 But whatever because. This bitch needs a hot dog. Whatever, because Louis Tomlinson's baby from one direction is it not real, apparently. What? This is the dumb. This has always been in like, I'm starting to hit some, uh, a bit of a bedrock here on the celebrity conspiracies, but this is one that's... I like, I like what you're scratching up, though. This is listed in all the main, like, these are the kinds of celebrity conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's like, I get it, Katie Barry Jambini Ramsey. But, but, uh, apparently Louis Tomlinson, his baby is considered by many to not be real. So let's get into it. Louis Tomlinson is an English singer, songwriter, and television personality who rose to fame in the boy band One Direction,
Starting point is 00:47:04 which was formed after he auditioned for the singing competition, the X factor. And he didn't win as a solo, but they put them together with these other boy toys and the toys, they like to make noise. And then the boy toys like to make out sometimes. There's a long-running fan theory that he is in a relationship with Harry Styles.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It is a rumor they have both heavily denied. They refer to the duo as Larry Stylinson. And it's a real thing. We'll watch the tape though. I definitely watch the tape. But either way, in July of 2015, it was reported that Tomlinson was expecting a baby with 23-year-old stylist Brianna Youngworth.
Starting point is 00:47:41 On the 21st of January in 2016, they welcomed their son, Freddie Rain, into the world. Or did they? Dun, dun, dun. That's my kid's name. Right? Oh yeah. So you're the one who has the true baby.
Starting point is 00:47:57 That's my baby. Fans believe that... Do you want another one, Molly? Is that what you're saying? You want another baby? That's my baby. My children are Freddy, Freddy and Zelda. Fans believe that Jungworth is not real
Starting point is 00:48:13 and that she was created by Tomlinson's management team, which they based on her Twitter activation date. They believe she's actually a blogger, named Rose Ellen. All of the couple's paparazzi run-ins are believed to be pre-planned to sell that they were dating. Jungworth confirmed her pregnancy
Starting point is 00:48:31 before the 12-week mark. Most wait for five. That's when you know she's a fake human being. The tattoos on some of the photos of Tomlinson with his son don't seem to match up. What about the tattoos on the baby? Do the baby have any tattoos?
Starting point is 00:48:48 His ex marks the spot on his stomach is still on there. Okay, all right. So the baby is real, just the mommy is fake. Exactly. No, no, no, they say the baby is maybe a doll. Also, they claim that Freddie looks all too similar to a lifestyle YouTuber's videos and that his eyes are closed a lot and his feet look rigid.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Therefore, he must be a doll. Wow. And the picks are in black and white to cover up the Photoshop job, they say. But this is the most damning evidence right here. Are you ready for it? Yeah. Yes. Not long before the birth.
Starting point is 00:49:21 At a live show, Louie's on stage, you see him, he's got a baby doll. He apparently throws the baby doll into the audience and screams, It's not real. Going back just that. Oh, my God. It has to be true. How do you deny that as being absolute evidence? How do you deny it?
Starting point is 00:49:52 It's not real. I will say to go back to the Megan the Stalion issue situation. This, of course, is made Louis and Brianna incredibly upset. Of course. They've both spoken up about how upsetting it is that a bunch of people think their baby isn't real. They're very, very, very, very. But at the same time, there's no violent, like, unless the baby, if the joke was the baby was real that they throw into the audience, then we wouldn't be. joking about it.
Starting point is 00:50:21 But it is, this is dumb. Like, this is just dumb. This is so dumb. The difference is also, right, not only like individual violence,
Starting point is 00:50:28 but like structural violence, right? Like, like, with Megan the Stallion, we're talking about racism and sexism. With this, it is like, celebrity gossip is terrible, but this is just, like, funny and not, not connected to any larger,
Starting point is 00:50:42 this is just dumb. I love that it's also just based around the fact that they, they refuse to believe that he's not gay and with Harry Styles. Like that is father, that's the real basis of this. So she must be fake and the baby's also fake.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Like they're so mad that he's not Harry Stiles's lover. They just can't handle it. Like I understand. I'd also like to watch the tape. But I'm not going to force anyone to love each other. Right, right. So what do you guys think? I mean, I think the baby doll in the audience and screaming it's not real to a bunch of fans.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I just, I can't deny that. I think this baby is a do-da-da-da-f fake. Fake. I think also I'm putting the fake stamp on my jury papers, and I think that the baby is also fake. All right. Molly? I got to go with all babies named Freddie are real in my experience.
Starting point is 00:51:35 So I got to vote real. All right. I get it. I get it. I understand. There you go. You wait till you meet my baby pepper, Freddie, and you're going to be like, well, Jackie, that is a jalapeno.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I don't think it can nurse for me. your nipple and be like, Molly. Wait, Jackie, don't put a jalapeno on your nipple. Have you ever chopped jalapenos and then taking your contacts out? Oh, my God. I still, my problem is, I don't think I touch my crotch that much until I slice a hoban hero. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:07 The second, and I'm just like, how, why am I touching my crotch? I need to put more underpants on if I want to touch my crotch this much. Yeah, yeah, PSA, also, there was a very hilarious tweet about the same thing happening with somebody who had been to a protest where there had been pepper spray and then she went home and masturbate it. Oh my God. I'm in terrible pain. Don't do it. Oh, no, that would definitely happen to me.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It doesn't because it doesn't matter. You can't get it off. What is it, Cyan? Cineson? Yeah, can't get it on. Capison? Masturbate responsibly if you're protesting. Well, that is a great PSA.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And also, again, you know, I refuse to put little gloves on though when I'm chopping up my hop in euros. I refuse to. I'm going to kill my own babies and they're going to feel my flesh. But now it's time for the list. Oh, who's on the list? Jackie, you got to have that list.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Ooh, this one's got some fun ones on it. We're talking 31 famous people who have unknown talents. Uh-oh. I was immediately sucked in because this beautiful picture of Shaq. The Chack is a trained police officer and has been a deputy in just about every city he's played basketball for. He's also a part of an Ohio task force protecting kids from pedophiles and travels back and forth when he can to help catch online creepers.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So I was thinking about this because we didn't get to this article about ICP joining forces with the dude that hosts to catch a predator to catch the shitty fucking DJ predator together, which made me. we really smile and realize, oh, no, are the true, are some of the true heroes of this quarantine, ICP, which I'm scary to say. So I actually, what's funny, Jackie, when we were having tech issues before a pop history recently, I was, I ended up watching this podcast while I was waiting for you guys to get stuff to go. So I was like that keyed into it because it was live when I watched it. Like I was.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Oh, the Chris Hanson ICP thing? Yeah, yeah. And also, you're talking about Davey Vanity. from the music group Blood and the Dance Floor and that actually has been a worm time hole I have gone down this was years ago we've known about this and I
Starting point is 00:54:25 like to explain a little bit more like the music itself is made for like 13 year old girls yeah that are gonna have it you know it's like it's made for 13 year old girls that are like having their bad girl phase and it's tailored to some of it even made me I was like I'm too old to be
Starting point is 00:54:45 so gross And I don't even want to say what he's, I've watched videos him on stage, trying to get girls in the audience to flash him saying really gross sex stuff. It is a room filled with just young girls. So the whole thing is disgusting from it's not even just like he makes music that's one thing and then he's doing. No, no, no. Like his whole effort is around like grooming like and it's so obvious. It's so out in the open and everybody, or not everybody, but so many. people who were fans of his, you can't be a fan
Starting point is 00:55:18 of his unless you're like a young team. Like it's music it's just not music for people older than that. Like it's really immature. It's really like it's just made for for that demographic. And you and and all these fans have stories.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Like it is mind-numbing how many people have. And now the FBI is researching it and that is so anyways just to just explain what's going on with that a little bit in terms of because I have read I have just gone deep on this one and that was like a long time ago
Starting point is 00:55:49 and just sitting I remember I went way deep on it back when I had a day job like that long ago and I'm just sitting in my office chair just being like who we gotta get this guy like why is he still performing is he like everyone has a story
Starting point is 00:56:06 like there's no one it's not you know it's insane and so yeah it is just so and just the guy is so gross And the band is... What is his name again? So if you want to go down your own
Starting point is 00:56:18 horrible, disgusting quarantine worm time, what is this dude's... It's so obnoxious. Davy Vanity, but it's D-A-H-V-I-E. V-I-E, right? And the group is blood on the dance floor. And it is just the worst. And it is just so...
Starting point is 00:56:35 It's so weird and gross and horny. And like, but for young people... It's just so... Everything about it's so bad. But also, speaking of weird and gross, and horny, vanilla ice was the sixth
Starting point is 00:56:50 fastest jet skier in the world. This is a talent, though. Did you like my lead? That was a great lead in. I feel like Shaq being a traveling cop is like a job, but not a talent. This is a true talent.
Starting point is 00:57:07 True talent. This was in the 90s after his ice ice baby fame had died down. He attained his rank quickly and landed a sponsorship deal with con with con was six. Soki. Now, this is also as someone that has watched way too much of the Ice, of the Vanilla Ice Amish reality show that really, I watch it only out of hate. And I'm mad of how much that I watched it because, but you know what? He's still going. And I guess good for him. I've
Starting point is 00:57:35 never really read anything bad about him. Yeah. I don't know if we have canceled Vanilla ice or not, but I'll give it a tentative good for him. Let's have a tentative good for him. Let's have a tentative good for him, but also one that is another tentative good for him is Vin Diesel, who is a game designer. That's a full-on good for him. I love Vin Diesel. I think he's fantastic. Big old nerd. Big D&D nerd.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And I've known this for some time and made me like him a lot. He has played D&D for over 20 years and opened his own gaming development house to create a Riddick-based game. Now, Holden, you're a game person. have you heard of any of it's said because I know that Riddick that's from the triple X franchise correct? I don't, Chronicles of Riddick
Starting point is 00:58:22 I do know it actually had a video game entry that was surprisingly good considering like it was Am I wrong? I don't really know too much about I don't think it may be in the triple I don't know I haven't seen those I love Fast and Furious now but back when those movies were coming out I was like a big old snob about
Starting point is 00:58:40 that kind of thing I would totally watch triple X today. I would totally watch Triple X today, but I know Riddick is like a sci-fi thing, so it's like a sci-fi. Oh, no, triple-I'm sorry. I apologize. Triplex is very different. Yeah, very different. I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Riddick is... All I know about Vindiesel is my sister had this huge poster of Venn Diesel over her bed from Triple X that because she thought the Venn diesel was like the hottest dude of all time. And I'm saying this when my sister was in her late 20s, early 30s. Yeah, Jess, I'm calling you out right. now. You had a poster of Vin Diesel in your room way too late. I should I should put a poster of a guy in my room. Who's in your room? No, I don't, but I'm in my early to mid 30s. I can put a, if it's not too late, I'll put a poster of Jason Statham in my room. Who are you going to put up? Jason Stathen.
Starting point is 00:59:29 There you go. You're going to do Jason Statham? In the, in the style of Vin Diesel. Oh, please, please do. But I don't know if maybe you might want to pop a picture of Roger Ebert up there. Because Pulitzer Prize-winning film critic Roger Ebert wrote soft porn screenplays. He partnered with Russ Meyer, a man known for his sex exploitation films on Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, Up and Beneath the Valley of the Ultra Vexins. That's great. That's got to be so much fun to be able to have, like, because he's got the money so you can do whatever he wants to do. and I would love to write softcore porn screenplays if I ever took, you know, like a screenwriting class
Starting point is 01:00:17 or like knew anything about screenwriting, which I don't, I know it's very difficult all on its own. But he knew so much about movies, why the hell not put it to good use? Yeah, that's a big old good for him. And Russ Meyer is like a renowned classic. Like it was like back when porn was it all trying to be given like real attempts at legitimate filmmaking.
Starting point is 01:00:38 and Russ Myers has got some fun stuff. And I'm going to pop down for our last one because I was just talking about Mike Roe the other day. Are you always obsessed with Mike Roe, dirty jobs? I like him. I got nothing against him. I love his whole deal, you know. Dutty, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy.
Starting point is 01:00:56 He's a dirty daddy and he likes to do the work. But he also likes to sing because Mike Roe is an opera singer, Piedrade. He wanted to get into acting but needed to do it. join the union, but couldn't join the union without acting experience. Opera was his solution. This is the thing about, like, a lot of reality stars are actually, like, very sadly, like, aspiring actors, right? Like, the main, I'm thinking about the property brothers. They're both aspiring actors. Of course, but also, again, if you are listening to this and you are putting
Starting point is 01:01:29 together a reality show right now, let me know. I will be on it. Please, I will throw away any kind of dreams of ever possibly acting in anything. I would love to be the host of a reality show. Can I just throw out this entry, though? Country music legend, Kenny Rogers, was the lead singer for a psychedelic hippie band called First Edition. So in other words, not only was Kenny Rogers a musician,
Starting point is 01:01:52 he was also a musician. A musician. Well, condition, not condition, museum was in. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a great music. I, you know how I feel. James Lipton? from inside the actor's studio wrote the theme to Thundercats?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Now I've heard how. I think I'm going to circle back to this list because it's got a lot of fun stuff on it. It's got some fun stuff on here. But that was the Kenny Rogers one can go fuck itself. Whoa. Well, I was skipping around. Some of them are not as much fun.
Starting point is 01:02:31 You know. Wait, I'm having a hard time seeing the list anymore. What? Oh, no, wait, I can see it. No, wait. No, I think I'm going. Juke. Blind.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Items. Oh, we can't see them. Oh, my God. I just, I thought I was holding a pencil and, and I, all right, what, no, I don't, I'm not actually dropping that. Okay. What are we doing? I'm so, I'm so, it's, it's that part of the podcast when we're so hot that we have
Starting point is 01:03:02 no idea what's going on anymore. I was going to make some weird joke when I like broke my penis. but I was like, what am I talking about? What does that mean? Why would I say that? I'm still a lot of always. By the way, by the way, I will never do the celebrity conspiracy that is on every list that is Stevie Wonder could actually see because that is. I just think it's so.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It is so true. Like, it makes me so angry. That is, that is offensive. I think that that part of it is offensive But also if he is If he can see, good on them You're fucking killing it if you can't see You're like look how good he's able to walk to the piano
Starting point is 01:03:50 In this one video You're like, that's not a thing He's professionally blind His life is professionally blind All right but either way Here we go, we'll talk to other blind items The tall illiterate model is really taking advantage of the success of the A plus
Starting point is 01:04:09 Lister's record sales with these new photos on social media. A literate model. Model. Who's the person who just released an album? Taylor Swift, but that's not illiterate. Now here's a celebrity conspiracy I definitely
Starting point is 01:04:25 want to talk about next week. And that is that Taylor Swift had a relationship with a model, an a literate model. Do you know who I'm talking about? That's two vowels, right? No, no, a literate means both their names start with the same letter. Like if my name was Holden Hick, Mealy.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Ah, literative. Yeah, yeah. So. I think I was thinking of consonants. I don't know, do you, how well do you know your models? Do you know your Victoria's Secret models? Do you want me to just tell you the name of the model? It is...
Starting point is 01:04:55 I don't know my Victoria's Secret Final. Carly Closs, and this is like, dude, talk about... Never in my wildest dreams. Wildest dreams are... So... So there is such a worm time hole that you can go down when it comes to the speculation about these two having a relationship. They're very touchy-feely in like photos and videos and stuff. There's many songs purported to be written about Carly Klaus.
Starting point is 01:05:24 They had a big falling out at one point. But hours after Taylor Swift's album announcement, which features her, the cover of which features her looking up at a very tall tree, Carly Clause posted a picture on her Instagram of her hugging a very tall tree that looks exactly like the tree in the photo with the caption, Happy Place. And people think that that is another signaling to a tip of the cap to their lesbian relationship.
Starting point is 01:05:53 They've got the time, don't they? People just have got the time to be like, tree. Also tree! I mean, it's a pandemic. We can't do anything else. Who's taking photos of trees? It's the same day. But anyways, they have a lot of,
Starting point is 01:06:13 there is crazy documentation on this that I might bring in for the next celebrity conspiracy. Either way, moving along. Did I ever tell you this story about the Coke mom from about a decade ago? She had to wear a wig for almost an entire year after her hair caught on fire from a candle as she was bending down to do some lines of Coke.
Starting point is 01:06:32 She didn't even notice her hair was on fire until she finished the three lines. Her hair is on fire. I will say as someone that smoked very heavily for a long time, I've definitely burned the fuck through my hair many times about noticing. Oh, for sure. But we are talking, we're talking a movie actress.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We're talking a TV actress whose show did recently get a revival, I believe, on Netflix and had some drama surrounding her and her, a castmate of hers. that I think we even talked about in a blind item. Kirstie Alley? No, similar kind of vibe though a little bit. Lisa Kudrow. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Don't talk about the comeback that way. She's so thin. I just, I don't know. No, it's not Lisa Kudrow. It's her, she's in a show. It's about her being fun with like a gay guy, which is fun. And everyone. Deborah Messing? Yes, Deborah Messing.
Starting point is 01:07:30 That was a big. Big hint. She's mean and everybody knows it now. She's got that cocaine energy, so I believe this one. She does have cocaine energy. Big cocaine energy. She's got big cocaine energy. She's got big cocaine energy. I shouldn't even say that she's mean, but my problem is that I've definitely gone down my worm times of her relationship with Megan Mulali. Yes, that's what I was referring to. I get very upset because I'm just like, and in my brain, which this probably should, I shouldn't even say this aloud, Megan Mulali could can do no wrong because I'm obsessed with her. I don't. And her husband. Megan Malali over reprimassing. And her husband.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I just don't see them being the bad guy. You know what I mean? Whenever you're like, you're a friend of two different couples and you're hearing each side of the story because they're having an issue and you're like, yeah, but just this couple just isn't fucking shitty. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:18 But you guys are kind of shitty. You know what I mean? Yeah. Any couple that can do a Broadway show together as just the two of them, they've got to be good, not only good people fucking get along. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:08:31 They're doing great. Yeah, I just, I don't buy it, but who knows? Everyone's secretly an asshole, right? She's a cokehead. Either way, enough of these filthy cokeheads. This is a funny one to end on. I feel like I do too many on this person, but this was a funny one. The permanent A-list, everything in her mind, did her best.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Do you know who I am routine? But it didn't do any good. She even threatened and begged, but still did no good. People standing up to a celebrity is a good thing. she yeah I didn't really give you anything she's from the block oh you are so anti jalo you're you are anti jalo why do you hate jalo well she's she's Starbucks but either way this is just really not Starbucks honestly I'm starving for good for good ones and it's all just like Kanye it's because nobody leaves the house it's like the same or it's too dark or it's fucking
Starting point is 01:09:28 you know, what's his puts, the guy who didn't kill himself. It's all that stuff. And like it's like, God, this is a funny one. But yes, there was an article, Jennifer Lopez looks stony-faced when she is left stranded in the
Starting point is 01:09:44 Hamptons after her dune buggy gets towed away for failing to have a parking permit on the beach. She and her entourage parked three vehicles without permits at Mechox Beach and Bridge Hampton. Lopez and her family all allegedly drove straight past attendance. who were checking permits and parked up.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And then they towed her ass and she was like, but I'm J-Lo. They're like, yeah, but you need a permit girl. And so they towed her dune buggy. And I think it's very funny. I love J-Lo,
Starting point is 01:10:09 by the way. I'm so sorry for her being. I think it's because all of her fucking blind items are like innocent and funny. So actually it's a testament to how great. No, it is very fun. That she's not like a man tied up in her workout.
Starting point is 01:10:21 You know what I mean? It's all like the dumbest and the silliest. So I, how about this? oh my doom buggy's all I have Dune buggy is what you had baby girl Now it's getting towed You'll be in that dune buggy but too bad
Starting point is 01:10:38 I love it's a dune buggy too I don't think it would have been as funny if it wasn't a dune buggy Right that's kind of what makes it Yeah she deserves it probably Yes I'm sure it's like I feel like it's either that kind of stuff Or back and forth of like she must be a vampire or or doing It's like, because there's also those conspiracy theories like, yeah, she looks too good. She's too hot.
Starting point is 01:11:03 She's a witch. She's just been really rich for a very long time. It's a different thing. I'll also say in her defense, if I was as rich and famous with her as her and my dune buggy was getting taken away for something as dumb as not having a permit, I also would be like, yo, what's up? I'm holding McNeely from the, you know, the podcast. They would just tow your buggy even harder and faster. Be like, oh, the one that thinks J-Lo is Starbucks? Time away, boys.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Also, yeah, if that didn't work, I would even get meaner. I'd be like, I'm going to kill your fucking family if you don't. No, hold it. I'll say stuff like that, too. You're scary now. Yeah, I need a conservator. I definitely need a conservatorship. I'll get into that.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Baby, girl, I'm what you had. Nan, Molly. I'm sorry. You got St. Elmo's fire in my head for the week. All I can do is get that J-Lo L. cool jay song in your head dude though fucking straight up how great is saying almost fire how great is that song is a pump up song it's such a sleeper like i didn't ever i'd heard it a million times but then i when i'm listening to it i'm like key change you know it's just yes oh also i did have a song pop in my head the
Starting point is 01:12:16 other day for this part of the show so let me do that i can see again i can see again i can see again i can see again. I was blind for a long, long times. But now I see again. I'm feeling fine. I can see again. All right, I'll stop. Anyways, I'll pop to my head random.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I'm also mad at Jackie for getting, because of your damn yacht rock list, getting my love reinvigorated for the song. It's all coming back to me. Who knew that that is such a moving song? It's so good. I'm excited. Actually, I forgot that there was another song that I've been truly obsessed with off of my yacht rock playlist. But I'm going to start next week's episode by singing it because it's becoming a problem.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Like, I'm so obsessed with listening to it. Yeah, I'm teasing. All right. But that's the end of our show for now. Yeah, we're done. That's it. I love you guys so much. Thank you so much for coming on board listening to our Hem and Han. We are having a great time. We are smiling in between the. frowning, but then sometimes you get in the bath and then sometimes you milk your peppers with your nipple
Starting point is 01:13:32 and I'm just obsessed with this image and I'll never let it go. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm and this is the week that we're going to be rounding up our Rebel City of Indra, the story of Lex and Libya audiobook on
Starting point is 01:13:48 our Patreon. However I will say it is our final decision and you guys helped make it and thank you so much for voting on our Patreon that I will be starting soon on the Twilight audiobook. I have never read it before. I've never seen any of the movies before. I know almost nothing about it except for like the memes. And I'm really excited to just start this journey with you guys. It's beautiful. And I am excited to let you know about my Twitch
Starting point is 01:14:19 stream that I actually take the week off from this week. But normally Friday nights with Jackie 6 p.m., jackanese, Twitch.TV forward slash holdnators ho. Check it out. Also, patreon.com forward slash page seven podcasts. I'm just going to say it. That's it. That's it. And my name is Molly Neffle. I am MJKL Kat on Instagram. We love you guys so much. Be safe out there. Be well. Put a smile on your face and we will talk to you next week. Bye. Bye, everybody. This show is made possible by listeners like you. Thanks to our ad sponsors. You can support our shows by supporting them. For more shows like the one you just listened to, go to lastpodcastnetwork.com.

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