Page 7 - Execute Him w/ Holden McNeely

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

This week the ex-cheese lord himself Holden McNeely stops by after a week BURSTING with pop culture news as we're discussin' the $27m lawsuit bein' brought against comedian Learnmore Mwanyenyeka after... he made a viral joke about the "Lion King"'s theme songs true meaning, we're all transitioning to talk SERIOUS about Taylor Frankie Paul and Holden keeps callin' for women to be CAGED, Jackie's got nothin' but good things to say about "Project Hail Mary!" The footage of Justin Timberlake's DWI arrest has been released and "it's complicated", Jackie relives the death of the Buffy reboot, next it's on to the recent Chappell Roan drama involving an 11 year old fan, and then a list of celebs who spend a lotta money and 11 who are livin' a more fruuuugal life! The blindz, and then from 1:06:53.244 to 1:14:55.246 an extra cheesy Jackie's Snackies and MJ's Minute Munchies that got us ALLLL MIXED UP, plus even more on this week's Page 7! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:12 Oh, my God. Look, it's lions. Oh, my God. Look, it's a lost. Oh, no, no. Look, it's a lion. Oh, and it's a lion. And we're lying.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Oh, but we are lying. Are we lying? Who is lying? Who is lying? Who is lying about the lions? And it is the comedian that is being sued because they made a joke about what the beginning song of Lion King actually means. But welcome.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Olden McNeely to the episode. So happy to be here. What a week. What an incredible week of pop culture news. I've been engorged with news. Yes. It's been incredible. Thick with news.
Starting point is 00:01:01 We're all heavy with news. So I saw on the calendar my name on the studio when I was like looking to book something else. And I was like, are you kidding? This is, I mean, I don't think I've been so swept up in page seven specific. news. A little bit of Who's the Bitch news as well. Oh, there's a bit. The Roshaman of modern day pop culture drama.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's incredible. Who is the bitch and is it chapel? I need the security guard to speak up. We'll talk about it. We'll get more into it. I also think that Taylor Frankie Paul's situation is a bit of a who's the bitch hunt as well. There's many bitches. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I mean, everybody sucks here. Like it is. Everybody is a double bitch. I think that bitch. Sometimes this is a problem, MJ. Sometimes we find over on Who's the Bitch, which is my other show with Gara Clank, and you should definitely check it out
Starting point is 00:01:54 if you're listening to this currently. But on Who's the Bitch? Sometimes everybody's being the bitch. And I do feel that especially in the world of Taylor Frankie Paul, it's in the eye of the bitch older. Oh, it certainly is. It certainly is.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And they're all looking bitch look at two, and they're all just looking at each other, bitching at each other. And it's just... Where do we start? We're leading with Lion King, though? We can go back to that. You know, I started with Lion King because everybody, I was walking from room to room,
Starting point is 00:02:24 and everybody was just a hubbub with the Lion King news. So I think that I was just, I was heavy with Lion. And I, for those that don't know, I guess I didn't bring this up on the show. It was just a big thing in my regular life that I had reposted. It was a comedian talking about the, like the beginning. getting song from Lion King and saying and claiming that the lyrics actually were, look, it's a lion, oh my God. This clip went very viral.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I feel like, very, very viral. Before I heard about the lawsuit or whatever, I had already got caught wind of this. Because I thought it was just very funny. It was just something. It was the kind of thing that like I'm never not going to hear, look, it's a lion. Oh my God. It is just now immediately implanted into my brain. And it's just, it's wholesomely.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I thought. Yeah, that's the thing. It doesn't make the movie less, like, impactful either. I don't, I don't like this lawsuit man. Lavo, the composer of the, of the actual song, which is a beautiful, winning composer. He's a beautiful song. Beautiful sign. And what does it mean then if it doesn't mean that?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Wait, it's in the article. It means, it basically means like, okay, let me find it. Yeah, so the clip is. The clip, I know it. Look, there's a lot. Oh my God. That's what it's that. Is that what it mean?
Starting point is 00:03:49 No, no, no. The true meaning is all hail the king. We all bow in the presence of the king. And so the level of M, the... Wow, what a much more brilliant lyric. You know, the composer is suing the comedian for $27 million. $27 million. I mean, that said, Jackie, you just said you will no longer be able to hear the song.
Starting point is 00:04:15 without thinking. That's what he said that he has done. He has defamed his song, this culturally relevant song that has been in our... Here's the thing, guys. We've been here in this song for what? 30, 40 years. And guess what nobody's doing?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Saying what the actual thing that's being said of the song is, by the way. Everyone's just speaking like in a sort of ish version of it. You know what I mean? Well, it's a different language. Exactly. When anyone impersonates the song,
Starting point is 00:04:44 it's not like they're singing. the actual lyrics that were written. I'm not even going to do it because I don't know. Then people go, oh, hold it. You know, let's execute him. It just sounds so intense of Janassi's reduction to look, there's a line. Oh my God, it's not a simplified translation. It is a fabricated, trivializing distortion meant as a sick joke for unlawful self-profit
Starting point is 00:05:09 and destruction of the imaginative and artistic work of Lebo M. And I can't help but think about how to, it's almost the opposite, but there was just the whole Afro-Man thing with the cops. Which also throwing it out there, he is a trumper. A lot of people have come out. Let us know that he's a Trumper. I'm still happy he won against the cops. He's still anti-cop. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Let's take it. He's anti-cop. The lawsuit was still righteous that he won. And make him watch him fuck their wives. I'm still happy he won the lawsuit. Yeah. Absolutely. After allegedly having sex with all of their wives.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I don't. No, if he had sex with my wife. Yeah, so Jackie's talking about, I don't know if he talked about lawsuit. We did. We did. Okay, cool. So the letters are weird. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:54 But that's like almost an opposite thing. It's like a person making a song about stuff that's like not true or whatever and getting, you know, a lawsuit. This is this weird other thing where a guy claimed lyrics are something that I guess they're not. As a way to what is, what about? a, man, and you can just go on a pocket. Like, we're doing right now, guys. We could be on a podcast, I could be like, Abraham Lincoln's dick, it was question mark shape.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, and Abraham Lincoln's. And that's why they put him on a penny? Because there was like, why have a penny question? Why? Riddle me this. Yeah, whatever. I remember it saying that on the penny. Oh my God, wait.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Is Edmund Lincoln the Redler? He is Edward E. Newman. And don't say Abraham Lincoln's family. Don't sue us for defamation. She's been served papers. Like, we could just be on a pocket, say some dumb shit, pull it out of our ass. I mean, how many times have I said, oh, you know, I want to watch,
Starting point is 00:06:54 farther wash in, get dick fucked by John Madden or something like that. He's always saying that. And then John Madden's estate starts coming. Yeah, John Madden's estate comes after me and soon. I don't even know if he's dead. Yeah, he's dead. Yeah. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, absolutely insane. Absolutely. It's just, also, I just feel like, hasn't this man, Lebo M made in money off of this song. Like, I feel like he's done it. And he already did it. A comedian who is doing well enough to be on a, you know, a decently successful podcast, but this guy, this comedian, I do not think is bald.
Starting point is 00:07:27 He wasn't at Riyadh. You know what I mean? Yeah. It wasn't making the big bucks. And not to get into, like, the law side of this, but at what point, though, is it just satire? Like, when is it, like, why, how does satire slip into defamation? I do feel like obviously they were joking. Well, you know it's not that.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They were joking. Or like, or maybe we kind of believed it, but it made the song like, even better. More fun to us and lighten up to us a little bit. Like, can we have some fucking joy in this horrible swamp? Listen, if you're trying to understand the legal definition of defamation, can I point you towards a one Dime from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives who keeps saying that's defamation? That's the separation.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You're flat, you're flat, shining through. I just got to that scene, Jackie. Thank you for warning me. Yeah, makes me want to pick it up. So are we transitioning to this? Let's do it. Are we pulling an MJ towards Oh, pulling M.J.
Starting point is 00:08:30 We're transitioning. We're all transitioning to talk about Taylor Frankie Paul in the story of the week. We have to talk about her. We must. Now, okay, for those. let's just say blanket out the gate for those that are just, I mean, no, no, I wasn't going to say that. I was going to say for those that don't know what's going on,
Starting point is 00:08:50 I was going to give just a blanket idea of what's happening. Because I think a lot of people, I saw MJ, you posted the meme of like, you standing in front of everyone answering their questions, just being like me around anyone that doesn't watch Bachelorette or Secret Lives of Mormon Wives right now. It's Kendall Roy at a press conference with a bunch of microphones. Yes, it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And trigger, I will give a trigger warning for stool violence. Yes. If you are both stool, not the shit. Only the stool.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Trigger warning for domestic violence. Also, just I think we can say at the beginning that all three of us wholeheartedly against all forms of domestic violence.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yes. Can we just say? It's a no from us. It's a no from us. Yeah. Crazy. Ew. Ew.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah. We're like so not into it and we're not like the other. Yes. Really? Not fucking cool with that? Yeah, and we're different. We're different.
Starting point is 00:09:42 In the household, outside of the household. I'm sorry, I don't know how to not be a prick, even when talking about, like, serious things is very serious. It's serious. Holden, you think we don't know who you are by now? You think that we didn't think that you were going to come in with the right side of history over here? What are you going to say? What are you going to say, Holden? It's bad to go smack smack.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It's bad to throw a stool. Yeah, it's bad to throw a stool. Yeah, because Taylor Frankie Paul, who is like. Like the head, like the head bitch in charge of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She was on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. For those that have not watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, we have known that this woman has, is a domestic abuser since the beginning episode. First and ten minutes. She's the first scene of the show.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yes. And not in a man or woman cage. We as a society. She's a dog crate comes to be put in. We kept watching it. And we continue to watch it. That's it. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The show starts off saying we had to stop filming for eight months because Taylor Frankie Paul was involved in a domestic violence incident serving probation. So we all knew. Yeah, we're all like, ha, ha, funny. What a funny joke. I remember saying on the episode, like, it's amazing that she isn't even the villain in season one. She's not the villain of season one. It's so funny that Whitney is the villain after all the dust is clear.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So for those that are curious, and just like I've been hearing about this, the video that was released and what happened with it. So essentially they are releasing right now season four of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. We're all watching season four. Yeah. While this is being released, season five is being shot, although it has been put on pause because there was a domestic abuse or I, we think, incident between Taylor and believeably Dakota. And that is not the video of what just came out. No, the thing you have been sitting on like an egg since 2023. 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Like what's happening in season five, there's a new thing that has also happened that has stopped the current filming of that, of like the next season. Right. The video that came out is not about that. The video that came out is from the previous, the one that we saw at the top of the first episode of the first season. Yes. It is a video from that occurrence.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And it is a video that Dakota had been sitting on. And then he held it and sold it to hurt her at the biggest time that he could. I saw a theory today that it was actually a cast member. Oh, so it's positive. But then there's all, because there's all this conversation that the women from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives had gone to Disney previously. and we're like, we don't want, we don't think that we should be working with her anymore because they found out that in this video,
Starting point is 00:12:44 it showed, whereas a lot of people knew that there was domestic violence between Dakota and Taylor, that in this fight, one of the children got involved. And they got hit by something that was like ricocheting off of a person. A stool. She was throwing stools. Yeah, she was throwing stools and it ricocheted off of him
Starting point is 00:13:04 and hit her toddler. Yeah. And that, is where it seems the women of secret lives of Mormon wives, that's where they drew their fucking line. And that is fair. Is that when they found out that the kids were involved. That's because I have been.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Is what it seems. Without endorsing what Taylor Frankie Paul did, I have been over here scratching my head and being like, we've all known about this. We haven't seen the video. But again, in the first 10 minutes of season one episode one, we find out that she was the perpetrator of domestic abuse.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And obviously, the network, us as a mass audience and ABC all knew about this. This isn't new knowledge. And so I've been like, oh, why does ABC get to now that the video is out and it looks really bad, suddenly have a moral problem with it, even though it's not new information. But you make a very good point that the part where a kid got hurt is new information. And that does make it much worse.
Starting point is 00:13:57 For us. But if it's a new information for them, we're not going to know. because, or is it that ABC came out because whatever just happened in season five that they had to stop filming for is what happened and what the word, like the conspiracies on the internet is, is what happened even worse
Starting point is 00:14:16 than this video. And they're using the video as an excuse as a way to stop it now because at first, when I first heard about all this stuff and I was like, damn, Taylor Frankie Paul is going to get the shit suit out of her. But here's the thing. TikTok is now saying, actually, they think it's the other way around, because ABC knew all of this information.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Exactly. When all everything was signed for this Bachelorette. They knew all of this. The domestic violence thing was on her record. Like, that's why I think ABC is the bitch in this, in addition to Taylor Frankie Paul being the bitch. Oh, bitch, bitch. I think everyone, they are all this. Because also, you have to know, at least, to give you a little bit of solace and all this.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like Dakota sucks. He's a bad man. He's obviously a bad man. Obviously it doesn't absolve any of the, you know, that video is very one-sided. No one should be abused. But he is, it does give you a little bit of solace of like that guy is also a flaming turn. But this whole thing. And we're complicit, obviously.
Starting point is 00:15:20 We've been watching the show. We're watching it from, I watch every second of it. They're all horrible. They're platforming horrible nightmare people. Not all of them are as bad as to hell of freaking Baltimore. Sure, but I mean, all of it drives me insane. Every time I endure a mom talk video of them like doing some acting out some voiceover from some movie we all watched when we were in college, I want to gouge my fucking eyeballs out. It's the worst shit ever.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, but what do you think about dad talk? Because I think that the biggest crime of this season of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives is giving more of a platform to dad talk. who gives a fuck about any of these men? All the men are horrible. And I will say too, who cares. I give a live of him actually saying this finally in earnest, but I actually don't think Mom Talk is going to survive.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's going to survive this. Because there's now since been two divorce filings and another restraining order filing. So for everybody not following it to the letter, which, by the way, how fucking dare. you not follow this in the letter. I know as if, oh, what? Oh, are other bigger things going on right now? It's ridiculous. This, so. Oh, what? Oh, Iran. I'm seriously. I know. Honestly, this is realities Iran. It's difficult for us because I know a lot of people that were in Bachelors.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That didn't get the premiere of Bachelorette. They didn't get it. They didn't get what they need. They didn't get what was taken. Won't someone please think of the men who just filmed the whole season of the Bacheloretian? those poor bastards. Think of them. They thought they were going to be on TV. I was going to make the joke. Wow, Taylor Frankie Poff for that video came out, truly got the bad at it. But also, can you at least imagine the one guy that was facing down the barrel of like,
Starting point is 00:17:12 I think I got the bad at it? He's happy. And then this happened. And he's like, fuck, yeah. You still get to keep banging muff. But also, apparently, part, oh, part of you. So I had to show my disgust for what you said. That well dries up when you get the.
Starting point is 00:17:29 bad at it. How well tries up when you get the bad at it. Just disgusting. Now, part of the, part of the, part of the conspiracy train, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That is out there saying, so I was talking to Sherpa cast from Dancing with the Stars, also a Sherpa for Batch Nation. And we were talking about, like, because before all of this, I was like, oh, are they going to cancel the season?
Starting point is 00:17:53 They're going to cancel the season. And she was like, don't worry. They always do shit like this. They're always like, this is the most spectacular. secular season yet. You're not even going to believe it. And then it actually got canceled. And I was like, what do we do? And part of where there, like, I got direction into reading about was what if the season just wasn't good? Is it possible that not only this stuff is going on because we're on the street
Starting point is 00:18:21 is so we've already, I guess we have an inside in. And we do have an insight in. And it's like there's, I don't know how the NDAs work for the boys. Maybe. it's different if the episodes don't get released because the guy that she gets engaged to on the show has come out he's just like I'm just praying for Tyler I just want I want Tyler to go I'm gonna go for a run watch the SunRaz and I'm just praying for Tyler and he yeah so he went to yeah that was him and part of the the issue is that already the world knows she immediately left his ass the second the show show was over and she went right back to Dakota. So the narrative was already, now the narrative's done. So it's just, it's not going to be, it wasn't going to be a good show. There was like, they couldn't even pretend like, are they still together? Are they not together?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Because Taylor Frankie Paul is shooting and there's no way she's going to lie to that extent. I feel like that there's no, that's so much money though. That's the, that's what, ABC just let so many. Everybody's tired. Tens of millions. Everybody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about it. But everybody's talking about it, but I can't watch it.
Starting point is 00:19:33 But if it had come out, though, if it had come out and it was mid. It's the monster. You don't see how you can't see. Then it wouldn't that have been, because I guess word on the street is like there's been like the death knell tolls for the world of that. That's my thing is people are being like, is this a sign that this needs to actually maybe just end entirely? Well, I think that was why they chose Taylor Frankie Paul's. They chose to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 That was. Them trying to revive the show in a way, because they never usually pick like an existing reality star, you know, to come do it. Totally. They're getting desperate. They're bringing old, old men and women.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I thought you were calling Taylor old. I was like, why? Because she's over the age of 30. Every time they show Layla is 24 on the show, I'm just like, God, they're children.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. They're just children. Getting married. Getting married and throwing souls, man. Not even getting married. They just have so many children. She's like, Layla has so many kids for 24. I shouldn't judge to this.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I just, I forget, because every time I look at them, I'm like, I'm 38 and I'm barely an adult. And then I just look at a 24-year-old. I'm like, how do you have like a house and a family? How do you live? To be fair, based on the show, they're not doing a lot of parenting. Like, there's definitely when Jesse just keeps, I just, I just binge season three because I realized I hadn't finished it and I needed to catch up with season four.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And when Jesse just keeps leaving, because she keeps getting into a, fight with her husband whose name I can't remember Jordan. Oh, God. So they're the ones also, they are the ones that getting divorced. Well, they filed. Filed for divorce. And then I believe, I think Jordan got a, uh, a, um, a, or a restraining order, which kind of also feels like, oh, is that what Dakota and Taylor are doing?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Right. He should do same thing. Yeah, because he's irrelevant. He filed restraining order. Yeah, because he's got to get his name in the fucking news, dude. Or these women are. Animals, which I'm also fine with endorsing that concept, that they're actual animals. They need to be fully caged.
Starting point is 00:21:34 What are we doing here? Thank you. Thank you. Are you mispronaged? Are you mispronounced? Are you mispronious? Are you about to tell us? I've seen the video.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Taylor is scary, bro. And Dakota. It is crazy. Like, you couldn't write a more one-sided video of like a person being like, ah! And then the other person being like, please stop hurting me. Matt, but also not, and I will, of course, we're all our armchair psychologist here. It was interesting that the look in her face in that video was very reminiscent.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I used to have a roommate with borderline. And not that I'm saying that, because like also it's like it is like the look of of a drunk person as well. Yeah. But like I just remember her specifically when she would get drunk and then she like it would because she was like, it would really, really come out. She was not medicated. She was not treating herself well. And she would look at me and like look through me, like where she couldn't like, like,
Starting point is 00:22:36 she wasn't there anymore. And, yeah. And, like, in an extent of like, even just looking at her and it's like, was it that she was, like, is it that she's so drunk plus? Like, obviously, anyone that's going to be that big in reality television, they got something wrong going on upstairs. I mean, we're just, you know, we're just, you know, we're just. performers and the three of us got something wrong upstairs.
Starting point is 00:23:00 So it's like I imagine to get to that place. And also if you feel that you're not getting the support that you need, you're not getting, you know, the, it seems that she's continually in crises. Or maybe some fentanyl. She's got, also she's got, I don't know. Taylor, Frankie Paul has a horribly narcissistic mother. Also, she's got this horrible to her. I mean, Paul are stupid. saying really, it's just like really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 There's a lot going on for Taylor, Frankie Paul. None of that absolves her. This is obviously so fucked up. And the fact that the video itself is three years old and it's an incident that everybody knew about, the reason it came out is because there was another incident. So obviously this is an ongoing thing. Her and Dakota have this horrible, toxic dynamic. But it is, I mean, remember when the big scandal of season one was that Whitney did a
Starting point is 00:23:53 TikTok while her baby had RSV, you know, which is. Which is that. She didn't just do a TikTok. She danced. She did a dancing. She did a dance. Yeah, she learned the dance. And I do love for a game.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Let's just mention this too. So then Whitney, on the other side of things, I'm watching videos of her sold out run. They're having a party for how many tickets they've sold. She's doing great. And she seriously is like, you know, it might just be my time to step on away. This has done what I need to for me.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And it's so funny that she was the video. villain through so much of the show, and she is just crushing at life. It's amazing. And meanwhile, everyone else's lives are in shambles. Shambles. Well, except for also, though, Jen Affleck, who it is just coming out there is going to be, she's going to get her own spin-off show. I just don't see that being good. Yeah. Yeah. But then also said with like, and it won't be any of the existing other past members, but then they said something about like nine Nine new faces. Nine new faces.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I wonder because... Like, nine, ew. Good one. I'm gonna put a... I'm not going to say what I'm going to do. It involves a... What are you? We're going to have to bleep out somebody else on this show?
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm going to take it to... I told you. That's literally, that's what... I know. I want April to add beeps to that. I'm going to take it. Bigot! Two-A!
Starting point is 00:25:30 Thank you. Thank you, April. If you wouldn't mind just bleeping out. You know, you just bleep out every time Holden talks. Yeah. Every single line would be great. What am I, the Epstein file? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Redacting everything I've got to say. No, we want to hold you accountable. Yeah, no. We want to actually, yeah, the opposite. Let's highlight it. Bangin muff. Oh, my God. Licking muff.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Wow. So Muff is like, is, do we, are we supposed to like yell every time you say Muff? Like, is it the word of the day and nobody told us? Yeah, puppet cries. Just like Gene. Oh, don't even bring up puppets. Sorry. This is, you guys didn't see this movie.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I know that you didn't, but I just saw Project Hail Mary. And it is so fucking good. And then we got home and then watched a bunch of the footage of how they made it. And it's so cool because they did, for those that aren't, oh, where Ryan Gosling is in this new movie called Hale Project Mary that is based off of a book. And it is so good. And the alien that he's interacting with the entire time
Starting point is 00:26:38 was done while, of course, there is some CG to it. But it was mostly done with a puppet. And they liked, like, they're back and forth so much the puppeteer and Ryan Gosling that they use the puppeteer's voice as the alien in it as well. because they all like they just vibe so it's cool it's an unbelievable movie it really uh i'll probably get into it further on talking tv but um it's just thinking about seeing any kind of movie nowadays that if something is heavily done with puppet work i mean you know here we're pro puppet
Starting point is 00:27:11 here on eight seven and it it just makes it it just makes it it gives ryan gosling something to work off of and he is unbelievable in this movie and it's also made by the same guy that or it's written by the same person that did The Martian. And so I think a lot of people like, ah, it's just a Martian with a different guy. It's like, it's really not. And I dare say, I liked it a lot more than the Martian. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:27:39 More than the Martian, but people have been screaming about the Martian ever since. But did you like it more. People have been screaming about that movie at all. No, no one. I don't think anybody cares. I did love these. Sorry, what are you going to say? I'm segueing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm saying, did you like it more than the video of Justin Timberlake? like under arrest for a DUI. Another old video. It's complicated. Surfacing. It's really not complicated. It's not. It's not complicated.
Starting point is 00:28:06 We've watched this footage is so funny. What a wonderful week. What a great week for pop culture. Pop culture news. Gas is $100 a gallon. Yeah, don't go anywhere. Just watch stuff. Don't go to the airport. Jesus Christ, man.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Of course, I've got a, like, my one flight this year is in, like, two weeks. Well, you might want to get to the airport now if you'd like to get that flight. But Justin Timberlake isn't going to, he's going to have to fly places because I don't know if he's going to be driving a lot of places with this DWI. He, they released the footage. And apparently, Justin Timberlake had tried real hard to get this footage to not be released. And I think so did Jessica Beale. It sounds like she's pretty upset. Jessica Beal.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And it is, it's funny because as opposed to the Taylor Frankie Paul footage that we got, which is just so harrowing and so upsetting. Right. And triggering from any. Then there's the Justin Timberleck footage. And you watch an empty broken man get arrested. Come on, man. And he is.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And I watch. so much of the footage and it's so funny because it doesn't like you'll watch it and be like I'll never listen to a Justin too no no it's very just like wow he just kept like kind of joke like he joke I think he kept expecting them at some point to be like now we're just kidding oh yeah you're just gonna let you go totally get out of here and it and then in the end they bring him into the cell and and it's just a plank of like wood and he's like so you're gonna have to stay here all night and he's like oh not and like he laughs and the guy's like yep all night and just he I think was waiting for Ashton Coucher to come out in a trucker hat and he just wasn't getting punked it wasn't bad and he and the best thing about this video is we get a little bit of a we realize there was a little bit of a misquote when we first got it because we were we are we all heard at the beginning when this video came out you years ago that he said this is going to ruin the tour, the world tour. And in fact, what he said
Starting point is 00:30:29 was that what he was asked by the cops, so are you here visiting? He said, I'm on tour. And then he elaborated, a world tour, which is even muddier. What do you mean? He was like, it's complicated. I'm Justin Timberlake. It's hard to explain. Which is very, it is the like, what he was doing here, it's hard to explain. Say I'm a singer. Say I'm a performer. When you say the, and if someone doesn't know who you are, he just. is so he expects every single person know he is. I think that like it was that the cop was like born in 97. To be fair, like most people do know who he is.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Correct. It was a young boy cop. If you were the age of pulling someone over you, you probably would assume that that person would know. Justin Timberlake is up there with like a Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? It was so funny because the cops said, the cop's like, you're Justin Timberlake? And he was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And it was just so funny again because it was like, yeah. You mean the guy that looks exactly like Justin Timberlake that's saying he's Justin Timberlake? Yeah, the one that's busted. He looked, he did look rough. And it is very funny because at one point in the footage, he's just like, man, you just had one martini and drive with a lot. You did not have one martini. I was like, these tests are complicated. These tests are hard.
Starting point is 00:31:45 These tests are hard. That is not a man that has had one martini. Now, don't get me wrong. I do feel that like, especially for you. you to like I'm looking at two parents if you're on your way home like I'm saying that you guys definitely would hit that level of being so exhausted and I'm not you're just barely it's just he's not and I'm not that he's not busy he's very busy he's on a world tour yeah you know lord help him but he just I love that he took it so not seriously and
Starting point is 00:32:24 And then the cops took it seriously in a way that like not like the afro-man situation. Yeah. You know, where I'm not saying like, yeah, good for these guys. I mean, I just think it's kind of hilarious that, you know, all these cops are interviewing. It's like half the Sag Harbor police station is just in this room with Justin Dibberlake. I'm like, it's not making the cops look very good either. Don't worry, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But I mean, you know, this is I'm. Not excited to be, you know, team cop basically ever. But obviously, we don't love a DWI here at page seven. That's another no from us dog. And Timberlick is cloud. You don't have to drive anywhere. Get literally anybody to drive you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Anyone will drive you somewhere. Yeah. And he's... Or Britney. Or Britney. Oh, no. Don't do it. Britney.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Don't. But yeah, Jessica feels sad about it. But she was also, yeah, she was also. Yeah. glamenum and driving around and not. Why are you bringing her into this? Because it's important for the people to hear the angry words of men. I want to think about her crying on the ground as Justin's fucking playing his guitar at her in the bathroom while she's having a fucking miscarriage.
Starting point is 00:33:44 That's what I want to think about. How does it feel when the baby dies inside of you? And she's like, you're so talented. I'm so All the end Johnson See we bring Holden in for, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:00 the sensitive subjects And people wonder why We were happy To not continue watching Buffy with Hollywood You know, I'm glad I'm not watching Because I don't want to get
Starting point is 00:34:09 Deal with any kind of Spike scenario Yeah, I will at least throw it out there I prefer you know is getting spiked now By the way, MJ whatever something like that
Starting point is 00:34:18 Oh even though Yeah Isn't he hilarious? Isn't he such? hilarious MJ. But also we do need to bring up the fact that today's episode that dropped of Buffy was the first episode since
Starting point is 00:34:30 Zander died. Yeah. In your life, Zander died. Buffy and just getting, what a rough time to be a, what do you call your fans, Buffy,
Starting point is 00:34:45 the Vampire Slayer, I guess. Slippies will call them. What a horrible time to be a Slippie. Because Slayers is too good. You had to think of a worse one. Yeah, we're very... To be a slip, slip. And, you know, Sarah Michelle Geller has this whole long, wonderful interview that she did with people. You know, so there's all these clips of Sarah Michelle Geller coming out, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:05 and the presumably filmed in the lead-up to, you know, do press for the new Buffy. And, yeah, now you have... But also, she's in Ready or Not, too, as well. So I think that she's doing the press for that stuff. But there's, like, been so much Buffy nostalgia, you know, because of the reboot coming. And then, yeah, Nicholas Brendan. And I also, I saw a tweet that I thought was really nice that was, um, people, that somebody said, the, the Buffy cast is giving a master class and how to mourn a problematic person.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Because we all know that Nicholas Brendan did have a quite a hard time of it as an adult and, um, did some, you know, had some bad accusations against him. And with all of the cast's like, um, you know, tributes to him were like, you know, a tribute to who he was when he was young, a tribute to like the heart that they knew he had and like sadness for the struggles that he had. And it was, I just liked that idea that it was like everybody really like came up and was like, I know this guy was like, you know, a problematic fave. But like, you know, he was a big part of our life and we can still pay tribute to him, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And really sweet, some really sweet stuff. I read quite a few things. Just so tough right after the announcement of the not picking up the Hulu show and everything. It just, and then you guys watching that, that episode, apparently, it went. I hate it. It doesn't, except for season six, episode 19. I'm going to have that stitched onto my shirt. Is that also a musical episode, by the way, is that, come here, Gail.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Let me get a grab on you. Yeah, it's also a musical, Holden. Don't worry. Nicholas Brendan said he loved the musical episode. He said it was one of his favorites. I'm going to do something about in this bathroom. Can Slayers, can you go after him? Can you go get him.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Go get him. Oh, I'm going to have a bit of a bad thing happened. Holding made jokes about this episode to such a point that he genuinely pissed me the fuck off on Jack. I'm so sorry. You're not so sorry. I was just a fun revelation a little bit. My heart is broken. Eipsey, deepsy.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You don't understand. You don't understand. You don't understand. But you know what? We also don't understand. I know we have to get to the list soon, but we got to talk, Chapel.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Is Chapel the bitch? Is the security guard the bitch? What a fun week, bros. It's the 11-year-old, the bitch. Just kidding. She's not the bitch. Definitely the bitch. The 11-year-old is always the bitch.
Starting point is 00:37:36 How dare an 11-year-old look at a celebrity. How dare an 11-year-old think about a celebrity. Get away from the celebrity. She wasn't even near the celebrity. Well, that's the whole weirdness, though. Chapel wasn't technically involved in this incident. Yeah. Technically, according to her.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Allegedly. I'm sorry, I should say allegedly. I also, I did see her. She's like, I don't even know that was. That wasn't my security guard, right? But then the other person who did see was like, no, that security guard was definitely with her. So if she didn't know who this person was, that security guard was with her people.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I'm sorry, Jackie. I jumped the gun. If you're a fucking idiot living under a rock, Jackie will now explain you. Thank you. Thank you. Because Chapel Rowan and was it. She's in Brazil. And there is, it's Jude Law's child.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Okay? It's Jude Law's. Biological, bro. 11-year-old child with his ex-Catherine Harding, who is now with a very famous soccer player. Yes. And he is a Brazilian soccer star. and fucks like a jackhammer. He must. I mean, with the asses that they have and the thighs that they have, I hope that it's
Starting point is 00:38:53 better than a jackhammer, but maybe it's, maybe the ball handling is better for her, I don't know. But they were out. So the soccer star was with his stepdaughter and also the mother was there as well, Jude Law's ex. The 11-year-old had looked at Chapel Row and they were, in the same hotel. She was there to see Chaparone at this Lollapalooza in Brazil. Yes, there to see her. And Sarah, and then she went, like the 11-year-old, was wanted to go say hello. I don't even think she didn't she just walk over to see if it was her?
Starting point is 00:39:29 She literally, apparently, according to different sources. Yeah, and again, this is a last night earlier. This is the Roshaman of pop culture events. Everyone's got a different story. The 11-year-old stormed the table versus we were nowhere near the table. and the security card came out of nowhere. We were just trying to see if that's who it was. And so that is what they were like,
Starting point is 00:39:51 we didn't even know if it was her. We just were like, oh, maybe it is. And she was just looking. And so a security guard of her, according to the mother, of her people went over. And I will say according to the hotel. They just released the same and saying that was not our guy.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And so that it wasn't the hotel's person. So whose security guard was it? that apparently he then approaches the table that the girl went to go sit down at and extremely aggressively accused the girl of harassment. The guard threatened to report them to the hotel and she said, while my 11-year-old daughter was sitting there in tears.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And the soccer star was like, it was just a child admiring someone from afar without your fans, you would be nothing. And is saying this and is now coming after Chapel Rhone. Now then Chapel, because the soccer star put out a lengthy, thing that was like ripping her apart. And then Chapel puts out this like laying in bed.
Starting point is 00:40:49 She's like, you guys. I don't hate children. I don't hate children. I don't hate children. I don't hate my fans. I just have boundaries. I don't hate children. But also it was even like that wasn't even my guy.
Starting point is 00:41:02 That wasn't even my security guard. She said no one came up to me. No one bothered me. I was just sitting at breakfast in my hotel. She said they do not hate people who are fans of my music. I do not hate children. I'm sorry to the mother and child that someone was assuming something. She totally throws the security guy under the bus.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Under the bus. And I don't like that look. I think that it is completely invalidating the entire situation. I feel that in, like, but then I guess, do you feel? Well, at first I was going to be like, well, hey, if it's not that guy, it's not her guy, it's not her guy. I mean, that's what she's saying. If that's the truth, then that's totally changes things. But then the hotel.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Then the hotel is saying it's not. not our guy. So who is that guy? We like children. We're fit. Oh, just some guy. But then... We like children a little too much, if you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Don't say that. It was weird. It was a weird hotel state. I think that they are trying to get Chapel Roan banned from the festival. And I don't know if they have... Well, Rio de Janeiro, the mayor of Rio de Janeiro, right? Just said she's banned from even being there. She's banned from Brazil.
Starting point is 00:42:10 She's banned from the city. She is banned from the city. She is banned from the city. City, yes. She is, uh, so he, so he plays soccer for the Brazilian club Flamengo and, uh, sorry, let me read, uh, I was, uh, drink man piss, uh, liked to come. You literally could talk about anything. You could talk about, I'm trying to read through the article. I'm drinking come. You both can discuss anything. Megan the Stallions on Broadway. Oh, Barry, that's fun. And Barry Keogan is so tired of everybody
Starting point is 00:42:42 calling him ugly. Exactly, yeah. I mean, I will say my quick take is always the same on that. It's like, if I was on his level, like, I just wouldn't even fuck with social media anyways. He basically, yeah, he's not banned from Rio de Janeiro. She is banned from performing at Toto Mundo No Rio a series of popular concerts in the city during the tenure of the mayor. That is what he has made illegal for her to do. I mean, I don't think he could.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Stand on one foot at three o'clock on a Tuesday. I didn't ban her from Rio de Janeiro, so I'm happy that he had, you know? Well, you know, I've always said that I support chaperones disdain for the press and the tabloids. I think that that's fun, that she hates the press. I mean, not the, I like the press. The entertainment press is different. She doesn't like the red carpet. She's setting boundaries for, yeah, poporots.
Starting point is 00:43:35 She's setting boundaries. She's setting boundaries. Yeah, operandi and aggressive press people. I will say, though, you know, I do think a. pretty, I'm sorry, MJ, what were you going to say? Well, just that I don't think that it's cool to hate your fans, and I don't know if she does, because I honestly don't know. I mean, it sounds like maybe she did all these things because there's corroborating info,
Starting point is 00:43:55 but she really was like, I swear to God, this, I don't know what happened. I don't know. So anyway, I think hating the paparazzi is cool, but hating children, less cool, less cool. I saw a video of her looking really grumpy, and I'm going to throw it out there, and frumpy in an airport. Wow. I'm glad that you're talking about what she looked less in her body at the airport. I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It hurts. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. Put any work in. Yeah. So she's looking real grumps with a security guard.
Starting point is 00:44:23 It's the perspective of someone filming her with their camera, right? And she's walking through the airport. And you just see her like, look at the security guard, like, that right there and, like, points out the person filming. The guy's like, hey, hey, put the camera down. Like really aggressive and shit while she kind of, like, try. tries to act like she didn't do that or like sort of or sort of just acts all kind of innocent. And that kind of footage makes me be like, oh, it seems like for, by the way, for better for worse, you might just be the kind of like, dude, I don't fuck with this.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And that's just the way I am. And I'm just going to be like that. Like she's, but she's allowed to be a bitch. I feel like what's funny is like the, the sassy, at least I, on Twitter, like the sassier gay community that like maybe hates kids a little bit. they're on there being like yeah fuck this kid like she's my fucking diva she's a diva ass bitch So you got your finger on the pulse of the queer community online
Starting point is 00:45:22 So this is like three Twitter accounts This is why we bring olden end Not even online on X on Elon's X But it's still being like I don't give a fuck Who gives a fuck about this fucking kid? Well there's some people who I think are such chapel stands That they will kind of defend her Whatever whatever and I
Starting point is 00:45:41 I think I would count myself like on the number line of hating chapel to loving chapel. I'm certainly towards the, you know, I'll stand and I'll apologize for her. But this, if this actually happened, you know, it's the I. I just think it's funny that there's always a different stance like we saw with the slap at the Oscars. Like there's plenty of people out there just like, I don't give a shit. I want her to not like kids. That's my girl. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Like I want her to be like this. Like she's an icon diva. She can, it's like making music for like the queer community. Like, fuck off. Yes, but a huge portion of her audience are 11 year old girls. Sure. I totally agree with you on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I think there's a little bit of a difference between like the way Taylor and that's right, I'm invoking your name and other artists in that are like, we love kids. They go, yeah, they go to the hospital and see the sad ones. And yet she won't say anything about the child that runs this fucking country. Hey, shout out to fucking Miss Rachel, by the way, going after her. tension facilities. Yes. Ms. Rachel's fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:46:44 She's just like, no, no, I'm genuinely trying to change things. Every time she does it, it's like, yeah, and come at me because I'm fucking trying to fight for kids. I don't give a fuck about any of this other shit. I'm trying to advocate for children. You have no leg to stand on. I'm advocating for children being treated poorly.
Starting point is 00:47:00 See, we should be lifting up Ms. Rachel. We shouldn't be lifting up Taylor-Fraggy Ball. But you know what if Ms. Rachel had a reality show? Yes. Let's give her. Put her on the bachelor. Slur. Even though she's happily married to the guy.
Starting point is 00:47:12 She's happily married. She does the songs with. She's amazing. Yeah, that guy seems awesome. We're foolish, but awesome nonetheless. Again, also talking about loom, so not hot enough for you. Well, he's talking about the looks of both men and women in this episode. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It's okay. I guess it's good. Can I say this one thing I liked that I read online was somebody was like, when Dolly Parton doesn't want to be recognized, she's not. There is so much shit you can easily do. to not be recognized. Yeah, but that's not her being herself. I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:46 I mean, it's just fucked that. And Rose Mary's granddaughter. She's been an image of my five. What is that? You remember that horrible song? When the day is done, my mama's still my biggest fame. Not mine.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I don't know. You decided to write a children's book. That ain't happen. I know that there are like four people out there that heard me sing this song. I was like, I know that song, and I know one of those people's I don't really play video games from our chat. Because we've talked about that song before.
Starting point is 00:48:16 But now, we've got to talk about the list. Oh, who's on the list. Jackie, got to have that list. Celebres who spend a lot of money and 11 who are living a more frugal life. I'll be talking about Red Man on MTV's cribs. I hope we get there because first off, we're starting with Paris Hilton because she bought a 300 $325,000 two-story mini mansion for her dogs. Oh, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 $325,000. They do weird stuff like that. What? That's crazy. I felt very bad for her when her house burned down because I thought... That was the pet house burned down. She's a human living... No, not with the pets inside.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yes, with the pets inside. Oh, you're being a Jesse Buckley right now. Yeah. No, that's an eat the rich. We got to eat her. Sorry. Yeah, but well, we're not eating this rich. Warren Buffett is one of the richest people in the world, but prefers living a frugal life.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah. He still lives in his Omaha, Nebraska home, which he purchased for $31,500 in 1958. Close to the draw is just to hoard money. What a cool thing. You hoard that money instead you don't give it nobody, don't let nobody use it. Could you imagine? It's just none of it makes sense to be like when you're getting that, trying to be that rich and stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And then on top of that being like, but I also don't spend it. That's how cool. What is what is it like? I just don't want other people. have it. Yeah, I still want other people to have it. Yeah. But then, see, that's why, but then are we more supportive of the Kim Kardashian's that spend $150 million on her custom private jet that's dubbed Kim Air? Yeah, I wouldn't know. 150 million dollars for Kim Air. Yeah, I want her to... Kim Air. Um, yep, I just, you don't. Talk about a tiny cage. Okay, you have to now call for a man
Starting point is 00:50:06 to be put into a cage because you've called for several women. to be put into a cage and the husbands, the husband's from Mormon wives, because I'll go in a cage as well. Oh my God, all of Dad Talk. Can we put them in one tiny cage? But the nine are making videos in the cage. They will.
Starting point is 00:50:22 No, no, I don't want them to be able to move in the cage. I want it to be like, you know, what they do to unfortunate animals. Melted down and connected, like a body horror, like kind of thing. Human centipede style. Human centipede. Yeah. Oh, God. And then at least they would just be one entity.
Starting point is 00:50:37 and that reality show, I would watch. And if Dad Tak's going to survive that, I don't know. Let him have it. I don't know if they are. Yeah, man, I guess. I guess. Human said to Pete Dadtack,
Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't know if Dad Talk's going to survive them. No, what's on? We're not going to. We're talking what our viewers do. All day, looking at a content. They're doing this. They're eating shit, DJ. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And Nicholas Cage probably is also eating. shit. Now we know that he's got lots of crazy things like, you know, like a $276,000 dinosaur skull. And it's just, I think that when I think about I see, that's a problem. Yeah. Nicholas Cage's stuff like, like him trying to
Starting point is 00:51:23 buy a pyramid, you know, it's like he's got it. He has. He still has it. This is my problem. Then why do I, like, I look at the Kim Kardashian and I'm like, oh God, Jesus Christ. But then I'm like, I mean, if you're buying dinosaur skulls. Yeah. You know, it's like if you're, you know, I, you know, I, we have a lot of taxidermy, we have a lot of like vintage taxidermy in our home. And someone that works, Jeff has friends that run estate sales.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And we were offered to purchase a human skull. Wow. Do you buy the human skull or do you think it's cursed? Cursed. A hundred percent cursed. So I got one buy, I got one cursed. Yeah. So maybe I should just buy it because it's cursed.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Buy it, mail it to MJ. I'll give it to the kids. Give it to the kids. This is a real human skull. Can we lick it like a lolly? Yes, you can do whatever you want three licks to get to the center of that brain. Lady Gaga spent $50,000 on the ghost detector that she purchased to bring from hotel to hotel that she has to scan. To make sure that the ghosts stay away from her when she's in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's insane. But you know what's something I love about Buffy? Sarah Michelle Geller, avid coupon clipper. Love that. I guess the coupon game's weird to me. It's just so much work. I live a coupon lifestyle. Yeah, you're all about that.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm a coupon bitch. Your inbox must be. Your spam must be out of control. Oh, it's, you'd throw up if you look at my email. And so many people are like, don't you have like a separate email for that? So all the emails. And I'm like, how am I going to know when the sale is on? How do I know when there's a sale?
Starting point is 00:53:07 I'm a true capitalistic queen. I think this is Linda living in you. You know, it just seems like such a, it's like such a... She's inside of me! Got our own! Such a thing for like that generation to sit at the kitchen table and clip coupons, you know? Clip them and get them together and bring them in and then stand there while a whole line of people seeds. I think that's my problem is like I've been so annoyed being behind the coupon person that I don't
Starting point is 00:53:35 want to be the coupon person. If they're fast, I think if you're up there like, oh, it's never fast. But here's a thing that'll hold in, a real coupon bitch knows what they're fucking doing. They get in, they get out, they know how to move it fast. You can spot a non-coupon bitch fast because they're moving slow. But also, a lot of real coupon bitches are very old. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Very old women. Ouch. And they have crinkle hands. Ouch. I put SPF on my hands. And they're just like, I just want. someone to talk to today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Oh, yeah. What do you, Mrs. McCluskey? Sorry, that's a desperate housewives. Anyway, Ashton Couther spent up to $200,000 to be a passenger on the first ever Virgin Galactic flight to space. He ultimately sold the ticket after his wife
Starting point is 00:54:22 had concerns that it was not a smart family decision. Oh, my God. She later had regrets saying that she had been feeling selfish. Babe, babe, I'm going to space. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Bab, I'm going to Spence.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I bought a tiki. No, babe. No. No, can I please? No, can I please? No, babe. Can I fuck you, Mila? No.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Sorry, I said no. I was being selfish and hormonal. Mila, please, let me see it. Let me just look at it. I just hate the dynamic of later on being like, I'm sorry I told you after you spent a bunch of our money without asking me. I was just being a hormone monster. I hate that. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I hate it. No, you're wasting our money to right now. That's what you're fucking doing. Rip you in half and terrifier you. Don't. I'm getting lost in my own violence. Yeah. Fantasy.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I feel like... Very visceral today. Do you need therapy? Is that what it is? Actually, my therapist told me that I need less. Less therapy. They said, you need to stop because it's making you worse. And I've never, I've never recommended that to any of my clients, but it's literally
Starting point is 00:55:31 making you worse. So this is why we brought you. you hear because this is an intervention. There's no sex in your violence. Remember that song? That was Bush, right? Stop talking about my coin. Gavin. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Did you love Gavin? I just remember Glissorraine. Did you love Gavin? I wasn't a Gaviner. I never really got into Bush. I just remember specifically Glaser Rain. I think I was a little too young for Bush at the time. What about no doubt at the sphere?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Are you feeling a draw? to that? Are you like, ooh, I wish I could be there? Sorry, I'm not, right now I'm not going. I don't want to say that no. Oh, that's what you made me do? Look what you made me do, holding. MJ, that's my list. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Excellent. Well, I... Oh, wow. Can you stand to get with a little more fucking feeling, MJ? I know what is happening right now? You guys are on a roll, and I, I'm like it on a Friday morning. Yeah, we're in kind of a free association karaoke over here.
Starting point is 00:56:40 It's hard being a girl in the world. It's not just me. It's holding to. No, it's both of you. You're feeding off each other. It's a dynamic, okay? Yeah. We talk a lot about dynamics on Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, but I digress.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I think I'm going. Live! It's items. Oh, we can see them. Everyone assumed that the Utah wife and the reality star slash podcaster have hooked up. Today confirmed that. So Taylor.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Mm-hmm. And the podcaster, what was the description of the podcaster? Okay, did you, so. Nons. We got nuns. Just podcaster? Reality star slash podcaster.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Okay, that was what I needed to remember. Reality star slash podcaster. So this is like a little bit. Christian Bell. Is it the vial? Is it? Yes, Jackie. Well done.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I was going to say this is kind of a deep cut if you're not super in this world. But basically what happened was the Vile Files, who is also the host of age of attraction because he has a 20-year age gap with his wife. Because he has a 20-year age gap with his wife. But age is just a number. And we really learn that with every episode, age is just a number. And we have heard from many listeners that Nick Vile is vile, if you will, that he is like a really gross, not cool guy. but he apparently was a big champion of getting Taylor Frankie Paul on The Bachelorette
Starting point is 00:58:09 and has kind of taken credit for it in the past and has done a little bit of like clout chasing. And then Taylor Frankie Paul reposted a real making fun of Nick Vile saying like Nick Vile showing up to work after taking full credit for her becoming the Bachelorette. She reposted it and said Nick is my hype guy. Now, I'm not sure why writers of this blind Adam thinks that that confirms that they hooked up. But that is what we are being led to believe. She would be positive over him, like, championing her work to get on the show, I guess. So it's like the fact that she's positive about it must mean that she's pork in it. But I don't know if that is the case.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And also before when you said Taylor, all I could think was Taylor Swift. And I was just like, because it's like, she's going to go fuck another podcaster. you think usually one is enough. Oh yeah, because Taylor Swift is fucking a podcaster. Yes, she is. Totally. No, it's... She's totally fucking a podcaster. Yeah, where are you going to?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Well, yeah, no, just that it's Taylor Frankie Paul. And I think that the idea here is that, you know, that Nick Vile was a bit of a fair weather friend. Like he was all about her and took a lot of credit for her being on The Bachelorette. And then now has kind of slunk backwards into the bushes because it didn't go well. You reminded me, by the way, of another page 7 news story. Did you see the Call Her Daddy, Miley Cyrus weird trauma? Oh, with Chapel?
Starting point is 00:59:38 No. Miley Cyrus is like, what's the deal with Caller Daddy? Do we have any good relationship with them or something that I should be worried about? I think we're Call her Daddy neutral. Oh, yeah, no, we're neutral. I don't want to, I, this is so, like, the host of that, I forget her name. Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper is, like, obsessed apparently with Miley Cyrus.
Starting point is 00:59:56 it literally lives next to her and Miley Cyrus was like, yeah, I think it's really creepy and I think she's creepy. Whoa. Which could you imagine like your neighbor, not only your neighbor and you're their like number one fan apparently. And Miley Cyrus is like, yeah, I think she's really creepy. They don't like that.
Starting point is 01:00:13 It's like a fucking sidebelt episode or something like. I love Miley Cyrus so much. And she just did a whole Hanna Montana thing. Oh, they're having a whole. Oh, there's a whole thing going on. I feel sad because I feel like I don't know, I never watch Hannah Montana so I have no connection to it whatsoever. But for the people who did, it's a lot going on right now. They're very happy. There's a lot going on. Did you imagine being like a big fan and like a vocal fan and being like, it's hard to be a fan of a pop star right now, I guess, man.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Yes. Yes. I think that's, it's hard to be a fan of anybody right now. She's creepy. Because she's like, she moved in next to me, which is creepy. I think that's fun because Alex Cooper is like on top of the world right now. Call her daddy is. so popular and everybody wants to be in her good graces. So I think it's... That's why I asked first. I was like, should I even bring this up? Yeah. No, I think...
Starting point is 01:01:06 Miley Cyrus has like, fuck you money, if you will, you know, that she can just be like, I don't care if the caller daddy person likes me. I think she's creepy. Oh, yeah, she doesn't care. She can do whatever she wants. She's Miley Cyrus.
Starting point is 01:01:17 She's Miley Cyrus. Okay. Anyway, it started to derail, but it was just very page seven century. We're here to get derailed. If you will. Ew, M.J. Now he's drinking semen on the podcast. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:01:33 That's not why I showed up to work today. Like a Brazilian soccer player. Just a jackhammering. I don't need to be derailed. I'm happy with my situation. I make love. I don't get derailed. They don't need to be railed again.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I'm reeled plenty. I'm real plenty of T. Why don't you keep that? That's just one personal podcast. That's crazy. Oh, well. Speaking of those dad talk guys, the one that filed, the one filed for divorce because his wife hooks up with guys like it's her job. Jordan and Jesse.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah. Jesse. Well, he's cheating too. And there was another couple, or have we said all the couples? There's two couples that filed for divorce. Oh, yeah, Michaela. Michaela. What a fucking mess this is.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah. The whole point is that their wives. I think what we should learn is that reality TV. he is good for relationships. I think this is what we read. Really good. It's love is blind. All that good stuff. Yeah, I can't believe, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:02:35 the only ones now that are married are Whitney and Jen and Macy. And meanwhile, Whitney's husband, I now like him the most. I know. He's like the one that I'm championing. Who also has a horrible past, but it's just like, I feel so bad. Like, look at him truly just supporting her.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And not like the other stupid husbands. She's making all this, yeah, exactly. Who's wife and my money? Me. Me. But what about me?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Because I mean, even with dad talk, they literally are just trying, they're just taking money from mom time. And just kind of like being like wives, huh? Yes. Okay, 1992 called. They want their fucking content back.
Starting point is 01:03:16 But I also can't. But also the mom talk shit, I just don't understand why people like the shit, man. I mean, I like the show. I like the show, but the actual product they got them to show. It's just so dumb and corny and lame. And their faces.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Right. I'm talking about physical stuff again. Wow. It's just like. Well, there are cases have changed a lot over the course. Yeah, let's just say.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Their faces have magically changed quite a lot. I do think that they, I think they are all suffering from different cases of body dysmorphia. I have a feeling that it's like, especially with the people that they're around. Body dysnorphia, dude. It's not going to sound late.
Starting point is 01:03:54 asleep. Right asleep. Let me look at their faces. All right. Line number three. Our holier than thou, celebrity, loves to talk about how important her faith is to her and her family. There's nothing wrong with that, but there is... Faith Hill. There is something wrong. Candice Cameron Bray.
Starting point is 01:04:11 With being a hypocrite. You see our gal and her husband talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk. Not only have they both had extramarital affairs, but they have a terrible reputation in their neighborhood. derailed for being nasty neighbors. Our gal was recently caught on a home security camera keying a neighbor's car. They were fighting about picking up dog poop. When confronted with the evidence,
Starting point is 01:04:38 she begged for forgiveness and wrote a big check to destroy the video proof. She didn't want her reputation being ruined by unholy behavior. And yes. If your last name is another word for a French hat, I don't fucking trust you. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:04:53 At all. It is, Candice. Cameron Bray, of course. She's key in cars. Yeah. She is key in cars. They all do. They're all nightmares.
Starting point is 01:05:01 These people who try to proselytot, you know? She's just such a screech artist. Like, I just dislike her, everything about her. Some of those that join forces or the sign that burn crosses. What is that? Who is that? Who just visited us? Which I feel like I'm reading, what is it, the many?
Starting point is 01:05:24 My name's Larry. Oh, Larry. My name's Larry, scary Larry. Oh, just scary Larry. Is he a good part of the podcast or is he a bad part of the podcast? Some of those the key calls are the same that go to churches. He's wise. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:43 So he's a wise version of Holden. Would you like to see me butthole? Pearls of something. Yeah. Would you like to see me? Put on me. Drops of comes. you disguise. It's me. It's Grokney. Get out of your
Starting point is 01:05:57 Grunky. You are never invited to the show. But if you like, see my bottle. We never want. No. I will be in the corner. Showing it. I don't know if MJ can see your butt hole. Unfortunately I can. It is. My eyesight just came back. Oh, no. Oh my God. Bad timing. Mad timing. Now, usually we go right from the blinds into a Jackie snackies. What usually? We know that MJ is
Starting point is 01:06:22 MJ is going to have to get out of here pretty fast. I got to go to a kid's piano concert. They've got to get to a kid's piano concert. Winnie's been taking piano lessons as well. Oh, well, this is just... We should pit them against each other and see which kids better. Do you guys want to do that? That's over Zoom.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's a good idea. So, MJ, do I get to go first? I'd love it if you go first. Wow. Yeah, I'd like, if that's okay. Of course. I don't want to shake it up too much. I don't want to scare everybody.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Well, I'm so glad because I'm very excited about what I found at the bodega today. Oh, do tell. Minute Munch. This is rap snacks, featuring little baby. Nice. Little baby. Barbecue with my, what does that say? Barbecue with my honey heat.
Starting point is 01:07:41 So it's a barbecue honey? There's a variety of rappers featured on the wrap snacks, potato chip. Oh, I love a wrap snack. You've had rap snacks before? Oh, I've had a rap snack before. They got great flavors. But it's fun because it really is. You're always like,
Starting point is 01:07:56 searching for the different flavors because they always have different kinds. Yeah, the flavors are exciting. So who's baby? Whose baby is this? Little baby. Little baby, okay. Little baby, yeah. Baby Jane Doe.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Little baby Jane Doe. Big, back. It's not pickle. It's a chip. Oh, yeah, it's good. It's great. Ooh. Great.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yeah. Now, we're talking, we're talking honey. We're talking heat. We're talking, you say barbecue? Barbecue. Honestly, it just tastes like a, like, a really good, like, kind of lays barbecue chip. It's not a kettle chip or anything. It's just a really.
Starting point is 01:08:26 good potato chip, but it's great flavor. I will absolutely be buying more wrap snacks. Does it say on the back? Why, little baby? Why little baby? Okay, there's a quote. No matter what you are going through in life, remember, family is everything. Stay solid, stay woke, and take
Starting point is 01:08:41 advantage of every opportunity that is provided to you because, like they say in life, nothing lasts forever. What did you say, stay what, stay woke? Stay solid, stay woke. Stay solid. Like hard. That's how the kids say, get erect, you know, essentially.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Stay solid, yeah. Stay solid. So they like edging. They don't, they like that kind of stuff. Keep it solid. Keep it safe. Very inspirational chips. Thank you, little baby.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Oh, my gosh. Do you feel like you're going to, like, do you need a passie? Like, I feel like I'm worried that if you're too inspired by a little baby, that I'm worried you're going to go back in time. But not before we get to Jackie Snackies. Oh, back to the future themed Jackie Snackies. Snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky. Snacky. Is somebody gonna eat those chips? Is somebody gonna try those candies? I got seminar. They say I'm a snack lead. I wish. Although there is a bit of a swap happening. Okay. I don't know. I remember last time whatever you gave me, I was burping at the rest of day. It was horrible.
Starting point is 01:09:51 This I think you're actually going to like. I was thinking of this is a, this is a, this is a bit of, this is a bit of this is a bit of. This is a, this is, a positive one for you. And usually I like to give a holden things that he's not going to like. But this time, I have been looking. They've been doing these. All the snack fluencers are talking about them. And I've been looking for one. And this is the only one I've been able to find. There are certain of the big chip companies that are doing flavor swaps with different chips. But here's the thing. And different kinds of carriers like a Cheeto. This is a Cheeto flavor swaps. with sweet Southern hate barbecue. So MJ, we were all living a little bit of a sweet Southern hate today,
Starting point is 01:10:33 and you had no idea. So I guess, but I guess my question is, are they still cheesy with the barbecue? Or is it just, are they barbecue corn chitos? And we are about to find out, hold and get in there. Wow. It's a Madison beer. Oh, Madison Beer. Yeah, it's Madison Beer's Cheeto Swap.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So it's a chip in disguise as a Cheeto. Is it a happy noise? Oh. Wait, Madison Beer makes chips. I'm confused. I believe it's like a little baby. It's a little baby. I believe it's a little baby of a situation.
Starting point is 01:11:17 She is everywhere. I shouldn't be shocked considering my chips are also made by a musician. Here's a crazy thing. it has, it still has the mild cheese flavor of the actual Cheeto. Okay. And it is, I think it has amazing southern flavor on top. Like, I think they do really get the heat. I think they get the sweet.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I think they get the barbecue. Weirdly enough, do you want another, you want to try it? Oh, sure. Weirdly enough, what I want to say is, this is crazy. It tastes like I'm eating barbecue chicken because, of the way, like the corn chip and the crunch and like in it. Yeah, and it's almost like, yeah, it's like,
Starting point is 01:12:00 it's like a breaded drumstick where it's almost like it's, and I know that some people are like, you're like, Jackie, what the fuck are you talking about? But right, is it kind of fucking with your brain a little bit? Yeah, well, I was gonna say I just, I just I don't get super down with heat on my, which I've been
Starting point is 01:12:17 called racist for that in the past, but I don't. It's me in a picture. He's posing. Actually, you look very cute. Audio listeners. But yeah, I'm not big on the heat in my snacks for some reason. I like heat on an actual breaded chick. I like in a wing or something like that. Okay, so you're not into these. Honestly, as far as they go, they're fine. I'm just not going to personally want to opt in. That's just not my snack as a, which is so funny because I like heat on maybe more. I think what it is is like I don't want to just chill and snack on heat. Yeah. I want to eat. I want heat on like a specified meal.
Starting point is 01:12:54 or something. Okay. Yeah, I tried to finish the taki kettlers that I had tried last week. I tried to just like enjoy them with a beer and I was like,
Starting point is 01:13:03 this is unpleasant. They're too much then they're made for a dip then they're made for a dip to cut the heat a little bit. I think that sometimes something and I think that like God, I love that.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I do really like, because honestly, usually I'm not a barbecue chip kind of fan. I am. And I know you are. That's why I got these specifically for you. I do not like,
Starting point is 01:13:21 it's just the, it's just the heat part If there was no heat, it's like I would snack on it. I also think it's good, just not for me. Okay, all right, great. This is honestly, that's really... I just don't like a heat on a snacky, chippy thing. I just don't...
Starting point is 01:13:37 I do hope... Flaming hot, you know? I'm just not a flaming hot guy. I hope that they play with more flavors on the Cheetos, though, because I like this. Like, it's interesting. You don't realize how much cheese comes from the dust. That, like, it's not so much cheese. from the chit, like the actual, like,
Starting point is 01:13:56 stick itself. It's like all dust. Yeah. Which is, no wonder we love to suck on a thing goes afterwards. Yeah. But I mean, and Holden, I do completely get what you're saying with, like, the hot on things, especially recently, I know that
Starting point is 01:14:12 I'm like a year and a half behind the snack world, but I've really been leaning into hot honey and I've been putting hot honey on everything. I've been smearing it on everything. I think I want my heat. in like a sauce form. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I get that. Hot sauce, hot honey. I get that. You know, if it's like a, uh, uh, something, uh, wings are put in, you know, saw, a wing sauce. Like, I just, I don't know. I don't want a hot powder. I don't want to dry heat.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, you know, yeah, I come from the swamp. Yeah. Yeah. You do, yeah, you're wet, man. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know if the heat is a part of it. I think it's just, I think it's just wet. I think of that it's just moisture. I think you're just moisture. Moist.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Moist man. Especially, we won't get into the very end of just Holden really truly thoroughly disgusting me last week on Jackin because don't worry, MJ, if you were wondering if Holden has been recently drained and I'm not talking about his front and talking about his back.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And the guy literally even said, and the guy literally even said like, this would make for one of those, like one of those good TikTok videos. Yeah. Because it just kept coming out. I'm so bummed I didn't film it for last stream with my lap.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Because I absolutely would have loved. love to send that in because apparently it, yeah. It is, it's like a divot now. There's like a divot. There's a cavern. And now it's like a divot and it doesn't stink anymore like a weird cheese. Yeah, so he doesn't vaguely smell like rod. Because the pressure was pushing
Starting point is 01:15:37 yeah, dead cell rot like kind of through the skin pores. So is it not doing that anymore? Is it nice that he doesn't smell like that anymore? Yeah, and he rained it right out of me. It only costs me a hundred dollars. People are trying to drive. It cost me a hundred dollars. They just drained it all out.
Starting point is 01:15:51 But I still have to get it fully removed. at some point. Hopefully if I reach my... Cheaper to drain than to remove. Yeah, if I reach my deductible, hopefully I'm gonna remove. Right now it costs me $500 to remove it. So drain it five times and then you can...
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yeah, but I don't have to use my special scented soap and scrub brush anymore. It just doesn't have that stench anymore. I'm really... I'm happy for you. I'm happy for your wife. I'm happy that she didn't have to be there. You be happy for my sheets, my bed sheets?
Starting point is 01:16:16 Oh, yeah. Because I feel like your sheets... Be thrilled for my t-shirts of my bed sheets. Your sheets were just waiting for it to burst all over them, so they're probably just relieved. Just kept coming out. We are going to end the show now, and I just want everyone, I want everyone to say aloud, thank you, Jackie.
Starting point is 01:16:33 He was like, this is a big man, this is a big one. Thank you, Jackie for ending this show right now. At least we're doing it at the end of the show, and I just, I had this weapon the entire episode. I could have said it at any point. Well, guys, thanks for having me. We love. Not.
Starting point is 01:16:49 No, thank you, Holden. I was about to say we love having. you. Yeah, I'm doing it. Thank you so else. Not. Well, then where can we unfortunately find you
Starting point is 01:17:00 underneath rocks? Somewhere very, very far away. Find me on the motherfucking streets, dog. If you're not out there fucking saying what's up and calling me loke or whatever, then I don't give up.
Starting point is 01:17:11 I don't fuck with you. Yeah. Nerd of mouth is fun and we're doing lots of fun things over there and everyone's like, yay! And then Twitch. Attv.4.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I do a stream with Jackie every Friday, Friday, dude. And really get out there and check out LPN TV. We got some new hot stuff coming at you at the end of this month. HGX2 will return and some other fun surprises after that. So come come catch me in it and beat me in it or whatever. Catch me outside.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Catch me outside in it. How about that? Yeah, but anyways, that's pretty much it. Thanks so much everybody. And good night and good luck. Whoa. Well, don't. I mean, I'm still here.
Starting point is 01:17:51 but, you know, it goes good night. You could love to everybody. It's me. I was thinking about you. Ew. I hope you fucking weren't. Or maybe MJ was while they're getting derailed.
Starting point is 01:18:05 My name is Jackie Zabrowski. Crazy, dude. Follow me on Instagram with Jack that word. Come hang out. I mean, we talked about who's the bitch today. If you're not listening to it, you are behind. You guys have to cover the chick is the travel's the most Who's the bitch pop culture thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Really truly. because it is kind of crazy because there is so much nuance to it because it's like there's a goof guffahas and there's all videos and stuff there's all these videos everyone's like we got to get the security guards video now we'll like complete the circle complete it all maybe then we'll have egg on our face but not until then so check out who's the bitch over on it's right here on the last podcast network and soon and on youtube who's the bee on youtube yes youtube. YouTube.com slash at who's the bee go check it out and we're going to be having, we're getting ready, we're gearing up. We're going to be having a great summer bitch-a-thon in June, so start gearing up for that. And we want to hear from you. Go to who's the bitch.com to get in more information. But also, don't forget, if you're going to the internet, go to patreon.com slash page seven podcast. Go get your goods.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Go get your nut. I mean, it depends on if Holden's there or not. It depends on where you're getting your nut, but it might be there. And it could be on Mondays where we've got Jackie's book club. It could be on Tuesdays where we've got Buffy. It could be all Wednesdays where we got our wisterialaniacs or Thursday where you got page 7 or Friday where you got second helpings, MJ. Holden, come back soon. We truly do love to have you in spite of all of everything.
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