Page 7 - Food Or Not? w/ Natalie Jean

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

This week on Page 7, MJ and Jackie are joined by everyone's favorite fairy aficionado Natalie Jean, talkin' 'bout weddins and why ain't there divorce-o parties!?!? Plus, Jenny Mollen continues to creep everyone out in new Substack posts, Netflix is bringin' weirdo Youtube family vloggers onto their platform on Netflix for kids, and sadly Anthony Head from Buffy has passed. Chamolamadingdong has a 1 year unlimited Chipotle, and it's got tinges of Dina Lohan takin' advantage of her daughters "CARVEL BLACK CARD", and rumor on the street is Taytay and her man are gettin' married at....Madison Square Garden... Then we got a Jackie's SLURPIES @ 37:42.132 before THE LIST startin' with one of the Guy Fieri Waterloos, and Jackie's comin' out against donkey sauce! This weeks list is SHOCKING celeb scandals from back in the day that everyone somehow collectively FORGOT about that they 100% SHOULD NOT HAVE! Then blindz, Jackie's Snackies starts @ 1:08:05 with MJ's Minute Munchies @ 1:17:58, plus even more on this week's Page 7! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Natalie Jean, this goes out to you. There used to be a graying tower alone on the sea, and you became the light on the dark side of me. Love remains a drug that's the high and not the beer. But did you know that when it snows my eyes. has become large and the light that you shine against. Are you sure you're going to film this? You can't hear it.

Baby, I'm going to be a darkest for the rose on the gray. Ooh, I'm all I get a yes, take the nose. Yeah. Now that your roses in bloom, it hits the gloom on the gray. 60 seconds. I wanted to, I couldn't, what are you just going to, what am I just going to do that? What am I just going to do the pre-chorus?

No. You thought you were maybe going to phone this episode and I feel is that out you're leaving money on the table because I just did dance. You did and nobody got to see it. And MJ can, I got to see it. Am I for you, MJ? Thank you. I feel that you are not in the room, all right?

And it's like you don't even exist, MJ. Wow. No, you saw the dance, but what did you think of the dance? I love interpretive dance. It is honestly one of my favorite art forms. You love Natalie Jean. And I love Natalie Jean. And I love your singing.

So it was a wonderful experience for me. Thank you for asking. Even when I went, remember that part? Remember what I did that? That, it's a high note. You know, we didn't think that I was going to hit it. Try one more time.

Is that seal? Oh my God. The seal is entering the room. I mean, it did sound like a seal. Seal, come on. Oh, ew, hew, ew, ew, ew, ew. It's the seal singing it. No, he's the singer of the song.

Natalie and I and Henry and Jeff, MJ, we watched Batman Forever on Sunday. Oh, that's why. That's why. And it is why. And also because Natalie was like, you can't leave until the end of the credits so that we can listen to Kiss from a Rose.

And so we did. And then are we saying it? Everyone left but me. I heard you sing it. I came back in. I checked on you. Yeah, you came back in. I sang with you a little bit. But also I will say, MJ, if you remember at my wedding, there also was, speaking of interpretive dance, there's many, many photos of the interpretive dance done at my wedding to kiss from a rose. Which originated at Ed and Julie's wedding. It became a thing that we started to do at weddings. But just those two weddings, yes. Well, nobody else got married. No one else said. We were the last to get married. So, It was the last two weddings did have big interpretive dances to kiss from a rose by all of us. And just because it's so sweeping, you know?

You can do it at the next, like, if there's like a divorce party. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Second or third wedding's coming up, right? Yeah. Right? Also, and that is the thing, too. I feel like people do divorce parties because there's nothing else, right? Because we have nothing else to look forward to, except for funerals.

That is that is misogyny I think Like beaten into it I like this Okay tell me Please tell me why I'm wrong Because femme people Are often told

Your big things are like this day Like that's why people go Talking about my tits Your tits You get one day You're gonna be yeah These big things over here I know you're not talking about my breasts

Yeah yeah yeah That too No you're right You are correct That we're supposed to have This big thing That's why people go into debt. That's why like brides have like these meltdowns and stuff because they're literally told their whole lives a lot of them.

And that's steep to patriarchy that this is your day you get. And then you shut the fuck up forever. Are you sure it's not because women are crazy bitches though? Because. Thank you, MJ. Because of hatred. Point, counterpoint. Women are only crazy bitches because of patriarchy.

It's because of that. They do this to us. Yes. I actually never. Was there a whole show called Bridezillas or was it just a cultural concept? Oh, there was a show called Bridezola. Because I watched a lot of say yes to the dress and the lead up to my wedding, but I did not watch Bridezilla, but obviously the concept is there.

Women being crazy. But again, when I planned a wedding, I was like, I understand why Bridezillas are born. They are not, they don't. No, they're made. They're made. They're not born. They're made. Yes, because it's like, oh, woman, you get one day to be important and you have to

plan all of it. Provide. Yeah. You've got to do it. Yeah. Your life is, your life is nothing and it's trash. Yeah. So enjoy this stupid one day that doesn't actually matter. That's all you get. That's all you get. A house with this money instead, but no, you get today. Yeah. And that's it. And you get the one dress that you can't wear again or unless you buy a podcast. There you go. And I have a, my dress is black so I could use it for other things. This is why, you know, versatile. But that's okay. We're, you know, we're not. You know, we're not. here just to think about our weddings that have gone by, that things, it's not that there's nothing to look forward to in the future.

Just think of what Jenny Mullen is going through. Think of when her children leave her and what she's going to do then, because she's not going to have any boyfriends anymore. There's so much to look forward to, like becoming a person in a relationship with your child. And yes, you might be saying, page seven, you already talked about this twice. But you know what? You know who else is still talking about it?

Jenny Malins. She is tripling down. It is crazy. People are like, you really should take some feedback from this backlash. And she's like, nope, nope, I won't. And the feedback she's taking is I'm going to like dig my claws even further into the supple skin of my boys. Well, it's a sunk cost fallacy of being an incest mom, I guess. Yes. Once you've established yourself as a person who wants to date her 12 year old. You got to keep, it's good money after bad. You got to keep it up. Yeah, keep it up.

So she did, she did respond. As of last second helpings when we recorded, she hadn't like full, she had had like one limited response. And now she has a whole new subs deck, you guys. It's called The Love That Breaks Us, which does sound like a headline Jackie would write. The love that breaks us. But I'm, yeah, I'm just talking about my birthday. It's like my birthday caption.

Yeah, that's just a caption. You write like, yeah. for like jacket on a Friday. Exactly. But the subhead is what strangers saw is scandal. I saw is grief. And I got to tell you, I'm trying my hardest to find out what she says in the substack without subscribing to the substack.

We were, you know we will not. We won't do it. But basically she's like, you guys, how are you telling me that I shouldn't want to date my 12 year old? I'm having a divorce. You know, I think that's kind of the thrust of it. But I think that the true things don't go inside. I don't call me crazy.

I think they actually call that like parenthification slash like triangle. There's a bunch of words. There's a bunch of therapy words that. And mentionment. About parent issues. Yeah. For sure. Mentionment.

Yeah. That when your divorce happens, your child becomes the surrogate spouse on either of all genders. And that's bad. Apparently. Apparently doctors went into some kind of science machine and said, Oh, okay. Ew.

You know, it's bad in there. And then they got to scrape out the muck. And then it's just the muck is the child. And then they're like, oh, how do I fashion all this muck into a child so that I can have sex with it someday? It is so... Sorry, I'm thinking about Jacob. I'm thinking about Jacob and Minesme. It is so verbose.

And again, I know I say this every time we talk about this, but I just can't believe that the man in the center of this controversy is Jason Biggs. Like, that's just as a layer of like, you know, it's just a textural layer to this. And he does not want to be. be at the center of this controversy. Is it exactly correct that this is the domino effect from American pie? Exactly. It's so funny. It's exactly what MJ said.

I'm just like, of course. He put us penis in a pie, yada, yada, yada, yada. Now his wife wants to date his son. And she wrote, yada, yada, yada in between there. She wrote that the photo was taken on a Monday night after he, the kid, returned from a weekend away. This is probably about maybe shared custody. There's something devastating about realizing your children can survive without you, that they can be content somewhere else, happy even, that the security you once felt being in their entire world was never, being their entire world was never meant to last. To which I say, stop.

But I also imagine that some parents feel that and understand, like, and do feel seen and validated in her saying something like that. Because that's not the real, that's not, I want to. That's not the issue. Yeah, that's not the main. And, you know, it's like that is at least like validating, I'm sure, to many parents and how they feel. It's just the, that I can only imagine my son's dating specifically, also assuming I feel a lot of like women with dead mothers. Well, yeah. She said specifically they're not going to be as hot as me or something.

Yeah. The old girl wasn't as hot as her. And she, right. Of course, the whole response is bad faith. She wrote this. It begins with last week, the internet called me a check. molester for posting a photo of myself holding my son. And yes, sure, of course.

I mean, parenting is a constant experience of elation and grief and loss. And so it's like, it's great. I mean, my kids are getting just. I hear it's rewarding. I hear that's the key word I hear. You know, it's like even my kids are getting older. And I like literally every time I, we are screensaver on the TV now is pictures, you know. Oh my God.

And you're just like, excuse to be my pleasure. Just like crying every day. Literally every picture. I'm like, how will they never be that young again? It is devastating. So, like, you could have completely Jenny Malin written a post about your children growing up. And also, I'm sure that shared custody is agonizing. Like, you know, you're missing.

I mean, I think some people, it feels great and it works out really well for everybody. For some people, it must be really like you're missing a limb. Like, I totally, like, if one of my kids is not with me, I feel like I'm missing a limb. I totally get it. But the difference is that doesn't make them my spouse. And I, yeah, so that's, I think she has, that is the lesson she has not yet learned. Yeah. In this response, yeah.

To me, it feels the thing that sticks out to me as a non-parent just watching her express herself, it seems like she's very centered on herself. And obviously, she's writing a subsect from her perspective. But you would think that in that time, the focus would be on how to nurture and like, take care of your child who's going through this trauma, not being like, I, but I might be, I want it. I want them to like be, I feel sad. I can't have this.

And they're not my whole, I'm not like the center of their universe now. It seems like maybe it should be like more concerned about are they okay? That's such a great point. Weird. The child's personhood, despite this allegedly all being about like how much she loves her children, the child's personhood is completely erased down to the fact that he is 12 and probably his friends have phones and are hearing about this. And that's got to be pretty unpleasant, you know.

Oh, my God, imagine. Oh, God, I never thought about, imagine how mercilessly he is being made fun of by his friends. Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that. Oh, my God. And they're all online. Oh, my God. Good.

I can't believe I didn't even think about that perspective of it. My God. We hear about, like, you know, keeping your kids off social media is obviously for safety reasons. But also, it is because. your child is being affected by every single thing that you post. So yeah, there are the fears of like child molesters and like, you know, stalkers and people become parasycial, but it's also that their private moments are fodder for any of their peers. Yeah. And that is, can you imagine, can you imagine your photo, your picture? What Linda would have posted about Jackie and Henry?

Imagine if Linda like straddled you and scissored you and then put it online. Honestly, then everyone would be waiting for me to become a comedian. They'd be like, oh, she's going to become a comedian at some point with these kind of issues. Oh, this bitch is going to be real crazy. But then what if your mom, imagine your mom trying to like connect and she wouldn't. Your mom is great. But like she scissors you and then put like happy pride. With clothes on.

But we were demonstrating. We were like so like your mom is so into pride. Yeah. It's about how woke she is. We were demonstrating. But yeah, you're 12 and you're just like, what, Mom? Why are they saying, what's scissoring, mom? Why are they saying that we're getting with the goo?

How is this a scissor? Oh, I get it. Yeah. No, it's so I was actually thinking about, I was thinking about you, Natalie, because I, I know you did a whole thing about, you know, family vlogging. And I have, I'm over here as a parent in 2026, parents out there, you know, I'm over here desperately trying to. to keep the monster of YouTube at bay, right? And I'm like, you could watch Izzy's Koala World and you could watch this dollhouse craft channel.

And of course, it's always expanding. And fucking, this is, I hope that this is relatable content for others that for me to just do this little mini rant. They are now putting on Netflix, on kids Netflix. My kids logged into kids. And I'm always like, thank God. If you want to watch something, yeah, not YouTube right now. Go to Netflix.

And because if you're watching a narrative show at this point, I'm like, we call that educational compared to YouTube, right? And so I'm like, go to Netflix, watch something. And they have now put a family vlogger show from YouTube on to Netflix. Which one? Salish Matter, which is like this 12 year old girl starts off like a 12 year old girl. Now she's 16 and her dad doing like, you know, shenanigans. And at first I was like, it was like, oh.

Is it the single dad one? Is it the dad and daughter? There is a dad and daughter. It is a dad and daughter. Because that one's fucked up. It's like, but it started as like, you know, oh, we're going to make a hot tub in my house. And I was like, okay, I guess this is fine.

And then it's just like gradually... Is that him? Is that the one you're thinking of? Yeah, I'm almost certain that's the one I'm thinking of. And now I'm like this, I feel like he, I feel like they invaded my home. Like, I like, the kids were like, it must be safe because it's on kids Netflix, you know? Oh, dude. It's just a, yeah, you know, it's a different media landscape than what we talk about here on page seven. but I just feel like the YouTubeification of, you know, every,

and just like you what made me think of it is like, okay, is it weird for my kids to be watching this content? Yes. And also, my biggest concern is for this kid, right? There's just everything about it is concerning. Like, it's, I don't want kids to be watching this weird thing. My God, especially now that you're like a guidance counselor to you're where you're just like, I can't with any of this.

And how do I explain to my kids? Like, I don't want you to watch this anymore because I don't think Salish is getting paid, you know, like they're not, how do I explain, you know? Right. For sure. And also just, yeah, you would think after TLC, we would have learned lessons, but apparently what we learned is that parents are like, oh, I can monetize my child's privacy, not like, oh, this is destructive and all of the Duggers are going to prison right now.

Right. Because, oh, man, just keep more and more of them keep popping out of there. Yeah. And they're like, wow. And then that one's, oh, that one's got problems on? There's more coming, too. And then that one's got problems on? There's more coming.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Financial crimes, too. Wow. So at least, you know, it is quite, they do have diversity in their crimes. And I think that that's good. It's the only place they have it,

but they do have it in their crimes. And I, man, I'm sorry not to bring the mood down from our YouTube talk and our child exploitation and all that. Giles is dead. And we need to bring it up. We need to bring up the fact that Anthony Head has passed. We need to bring up the fact that M.G. I don't think that we are cursed

the fact that we are bringing this to the world of Buffy that first it was Xander and then, well, first it was Michelle Tractonberg. We didn't even know Michelle Tractonberg in the show yet. See, this is Natalie, we, you know, MJ and I are huge Buffy stands now. Huge, huge, huge.

And, uh, but you know Anthony had from repo the genetic opera. Right? Oh, I thought that you loved repo the genetic opera. I have no idea what you're talking about. And when you put that in the email about today, I thought you were joking. No, I thought that. I don't know why I thought you loved Repo, the Genetic Opera, because Paris Hilton is in it.

So I don't know why I always thought because you like, but then you do like that other musical that's a funny musical that's not. Cannibal the musical? What was the one? Cannibal the musical? Maybe. Well, that's, that's my jam. That was Tree Parker and Matt Stone's original college movie. That's the one I was thinking of.

And I confused the two of them. Oh, so you have no connection to Anthony had. I don't care about him. No. Don't stop us about him. You don't understand. He played Frank N. Furder on the West End for a record. Okay.

Yes, yes, he did. I've connected through that. He was in Merlin, you know. He also, he was in Ted Lassow, which I'm going to throw this out there. I didn't even realize that was Giles. I watched Ted Lassow before. Pre-Buffy, right? We were watching Buffy.

So I didn't know he plays like the old me. gong, I get it. And I was like, old mean guy is Giles? And I didn't know until he's dead. And now he's dead. And what we are learning from his tragic death is that everyone who had a bad dad or an absent dad had Giles. Had Giles. All of these, because he is, he provides a model for Buffy of unconditional love. Over and over, Buffy makes mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes. He is always there for them. And like most of the tributes to him have. have been, I mean, all the movies from the Buffy cast are devastating. But then also just a lot of, I mean, also like random act, like this one actor who was like a demon on the show was like, I was having. He was like, I was having a really hard time with like the makeup and everything. And I was just like so discouraged. And he just like came over and talked to me and it always like stuck with me how he was like, you know, you got this. Like it's going to be okay. And then just a bunch of, I mean, people from the R. Page 7 community being like he was the unconditional loving father that I never had. Like it's. wild to see these tributes. I will throw this out there. Our amazing friend Jasmine, who is also a huge Buffy fan and has given us trivia along the way,

was telling me that Anthony Head's partner of like 40 plus years and like the mother of his children passed a couple of months ago, like just a month ago, and that of course there is part of that that he was ready to go. And it is, I'm not going to start crying

about it. I'm not going to start crying. I know. I'm not going to start crying. There was also a post, I wish I had all the names, but there was a post of an actor who's trans who was set, who had, who posted something like a years ago of like, I wish that I had pictures with, maybe it was a message to him. The actor was like, I wish I had pictures with you from when we worked together from one, from like my current self instead of before I transitioned. And Anthony Head was like, I'm going to cry. Anthony Head was like, come over and let's take a bunch of pictures. And they did. I love it.

I love it. And it's just, and Buffy's Instagram post just said, tell Giles, I figured it out and I'm okay. Well, I don't have it figured out and I'm not okay, but I know I'm the lucky one. Because I knew you. And she said, thank you to Daisy and Emily

who not only shared their dad with me, but with the world. Oh, my gosh. He's a girl dad, and it's adorable. And I bet he was a wonderful father. He was a relative. relatively young, right? 77.

Yeah. Like in the scheme of things, it's really not. That's nothing. Did he have cancer? It was pneumonia. Nomonia. Nomonia. Communications from pneumonia.

I mean, that's pretty young to die. I know. And that's why, of course, then it's, it is the like, he didn't want to be here without her. Yeah. So does that mean his spouse also died kind of young? Yeah. Yeah.

Natalie. She was a little younger than him, too. Oh man. So we're 60s? I think so. It's just devastating. Wow. Very sad. And I, you know, I'm trying to not because MJ and I, if you are following our Buffy experience over on the Patreon, we are currently in season seven.

We're on the final season. And I also, while all this stuff is happening, I am desperately not looking at anything because I, with all the reboot conversation, we haven't looked at anything. Because I don't want to know who's involved, who's not involved. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. Because of spoilers? Yes, because somehow Buffy is this old. It is 20 years old and it has not been spoiled for us.

Wow. And so we want to make it through the rest of the season without it being spoiled. But I thought with all this child stuff, I was like, I don't want to know, I don't want to know. I don't want to know anything. And I just feel like I've just been like a horse with blinders on. Yeah. And everyone was like, oh, Tren. It's a train.

Oh, on your side. I thought that was something wrong. My bad are. I live directly above the subway. It's a great place to have a recording studio. I mean, it's New York. Yay. Speaking of which, let me do it.

My mayor's Muslim, my bagel's Jewish. My Christian Dior. Nick's in four. Yes, it's not going to be in four. It is going to be in five. Oh, hey there, ball is. But yes, I did. I did watch the Knicks game on Monday night.

Did you know what was happening? You knew they went this way and then they went that way, then this is a ball, then he's taking it here, then this one's up over here. Here's the thing. I know that you, Jackie, know so little about basketball that you were enchanted to learn about the Washington Wizards last week. But I actually like basketball. I just never watch it. Yeah. I really enjoy. I only watch basketball like when it's the finals. And then I'm like, I should have been watching this all season. I really like watching basketball. But I mean, obviously, semifinals and finals are like incredible games. But yes, New York is on fire, and they had a Nix had a 13-game winning streak that was then broken less on Monday night, and everybody is blaming Donald Trump, who was there.

Of course. They're all booing him. He got booed. Oh, he's taking the picture of him asleep at the Knicks game. You know, it is, uh, and they're all like, boo, boo! He got booed in MSG. He had a perimeter around MSG so nobody could party in the streets. Boot out there.

And we're booing them here. Yes. All the street party. Bood him. But yes, Timothy Shalame is there and Tina Faye is there. And I was like, this is where all the celebrities are. They're all the courtside. The Knicks.

A bunch of people in the Epstein files. Howard Lucknick was there. Wow. They like that ball too. Different kinds of ball. Depends on what they're doing with them. So yes. But they like them.

And speaking of Chamalama, a ping pong. He's not just for ping pong. He's also for burritos. Yes. Uh, yeah. He is. I love hearing when rich people get free things. Get free things.

Although I will say, I think that this is actually genuinely very, very annoying, and this is the reason why. So, Timothy, Shamblima Bingpong, got, he got given, gifted a Chipotle, like a, the Chipotle card. And yes, I have likened it to the black Carvel card that Lindsay Lohan had, that Dina Lohan abused. Of course she did. We'll come back to that. We need to come back to that. I have the press statement from. Carvel about that pulled because it's so funny.

But yes, we'll come back to it. All the time. And so this made me think of it because they gave him a wooden card inside of a steel box that says, Timothy, Shamillais, custom made, handcrafted something, something, something, burrito card. And he, so they went through all of this to give him free Chipotle for a year. For a year. It's not forever. So here's the thing. The Lilo, we're talking Dina, we're talking Carvel.

they give you 75 years of free ice cream if you don't abuse the card. But Timothy, Timothy only got one year of Chipotle. That's all he gets. He shouldn't get any years. He shouldn't get any of them and he really, he definitely shouldn't. At least with Lindsay Lohan, was she given that when she was a kid? Well, how old is she?

She was a young adult. Yeah, like a kid, kid-ish. Where Timothy Chalmy is a 30-year-old stepfather, like who's worth more money than, an entire neighborhood in most cities. So just like, fuck off with this. Okay, she received it in 2009. Because it was the Carville's 75th anniversary. So in 2009, she'll be in her 20s.

Yeah, she's, I think, my exact age. And I already lived in New York and was starting my career. She was 23 when she got her Carvel car. Okay, that's young. That's young. I mean, you know, I can see that being a little cuter. she was a child actor and it's sort of just like a symbolic thing. I don't know why the Chipotle thing's pissing me off so much.

Is it because it's Chipotle or is it because it's Timothy? I think it's both. I think it's because especially because it is where the like world we're in right now. And maybe in 2009 it felt cute. Right now like people are like not doing well. And so the gesture of giving free food to a hundred millionaire. Yeah. This just feels yucky to me.

Yeah, of course it is. Yeah. It is ridiculous how much free shit celebrities get just in general. I mean, like, they just get, it's so funny that, like, they get the flights free. They get their, it's just like, really, could you share something? Could, like, any of it trickle down, you know? I'm not trying to sound like I'm like, you know, white nighting or something. Nah.

It does feel gross. Where is yelling? Because they get a bunch of free shit. And I, like, I, Timothy, I really have such a weird role. coaster about him because I feel like like seven out of ten days I'm going to be like fuck that guy and then even like with even the one thing he's doing which is being court-sighted every next game literally sometimes I'm like I love that for you and sometimes I'm like get the fuck out of here like I don't know why but I'm same I agree I do wonder if it is it just his face is it just his tight

face that it makes you want to be like hey how about you relax because the thing is that I feel exactly the same way and then I watch like his Nardwar interview. Yeah. Like I love Nardwar, the interviewer, like he he's really good at completely you know, really

surprising the people that he's interviewing and so the people that love Nardwar I feel like, it's like I saw Sabrina Carpenter's Nardwar, it's like I saw Baby No Money's Nard War. Anyone that's cool with Nardwar in my brain I'm down with. Yeah. And Timith Day's was a lot of fun because they're in a record store. It's like

He was talking about a bunch of music shit. It was right around like the Bob Dylan. Sure. I think that is that now, correct me if I'm wrong. Do we feel that a lot of this especially has like all these feelings came up when he started dating the gender? Yes. I think that's really what it is. I hate saying that because I don't, I don't blame her.

I don't blame her. I'm not trying to blame his girlfriend ruined him because that's what a lot of the internet says. It's more that anybody who associates themselves into that sphere, I immediately side-eye because I think They're not good people. Yeah, that's it. It's not, it's not that he has changed or whatever. It's, yeah, any association with the Kardashians is such a repulsive turnoff, you know. Yeah.

I know even Jacob Allorty now being connected with Kendall. I'm just more like, boner killer. Don't, just like, it really is kind of a boner killer for me. A little bit, a little bit. And like, that's fine. He doesn't have to be attracted to anybody. But I think that my, like, because I really loved him when he was like, you know, doing more interesting role.

Also great is Lori. I loved him even in my little women and he's great and do it like he's a very, he's an amazing, he's a very good actor, very good actor.

I even like that he like went and was like fringy and did Billy Wonka even though I didn't like it. Like I think it's, I can see it endearing him being like I'm going to not be sexy in this movie. I'm going to be like do do do do do this.

Yes. But I think it is just once you then lock into that world it's too there's so many dark corners. of that world that I can't get into... Trouted in shadow. Yeah, it really is.

But speaking of dark corners, we need to read the Carvel statement about the black cards because it is, please. Please. So funny. Okay. As part of Carvel's 75th anniversary celebration last year, we issued 75 black cards to celebrities. These cards were issued in the celebrity's name and require the cardholder to be present at the time of use.

Many celebrities have enjoyed their cards at our Carvel ice cream shops, shops spelled S-H-O-P-P-E-S. and have shared their excitement with being included in the celebration. Unfortunately, the Lohan family has been abusing the card. Well, the card was issued in Lindsay and Allie's names only. Even also in Allie's name? Yes, she was allowed to use it. Their extended family has repeatedly used the card without either present.

At first, we graciously honored their requests while explaining that the black card was not a cart blanche for unlimited Carvel ice cream for the extended low hand family and friends after more than six months of numerous and large orders for ice cream

we finally had to cut off the card and take it back. Guys I need you all to know she had it for less than a year. She had the card for less than a year

and it was taken away. It's an allegory for a stage parent. Oh. Yeah. Because it was taken. They take. Oh, it was.

And it's so funny because Dina, they take the card away and she immediately calls the police. Calls the police. God, that woman is awful, awful human beings. I'm calling the police all the time. The ice cream store took my unlimbed, my daughter's unlimited ice cream card away. Give it back. Police, you have to make you give it back. And it wasn't even Lindsay Loham, which is, you know, why I have sympathy for her sometimes, you know.

Oh, yeah. Dina's so nasty, dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She is, this, and this story is, I know, it's just so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny to me. Carvel did not pull any punches. And I just, they're good for them. Yeah. An extended statement about the low hand thing. Slap Tina down more. Slap her down, not physically, but. No, just emotionally. Emotionally, please. Yeah. I mean, this is quite the slapdown. When you take a bitch's ice cream away. Yep. Oh my God. Yeah. Of course she called the police. I'm surprised. she didn't bring a SWAT team to go get it back.

I, and you know, but Timothy, I guess enjoy your Chipotle. It's like, I'm not saying Chipotle's cheap. It's not. But you can get a good like meal for 10 bucks at Chipotle.

And if Timothy really needs that for free, then go enjoy Timothy. You're fucking dating a Kardashian for God's sake. Yeah, go get on your PJ real quick and then head over there to get your free breedo. And I'm not even saying like, this is Timothy's fault. No, because he didn't ask for it.

He was giving it. We're like, fuck you, Timothy. It's just like with Chipotle, it's just like, read the room right now, bro. Like, are we kidding? Yeah. What if we, Chipotle could go out fucking directly outside MSG and give out a hundred of those cards. And everybody would be like, fuck yeah, Chipotle. This is great.

Like the streets are filled with thousands of New Yorkers. Or you just give it to the one celebrity and let them do the PR for you. And then you don't even have to do anything else. Because the thing is that poor people would actually use it, MJ. And that's what they don't want. Totally. They don't actually want it because they know that Tim Faye is only going to really go to a Chipotle, what, once in the next year? And if that, is he going to be the one buying it?

I don't know. Well, because he was pictured eating a burrito bowl. And they were like, oh, no. Oh, wow. Wow, really? Give him more. Well, now I understand completely why they would do that. Just like us.

Like us. Oh my God. Just like Tay, just like us. You know, there is word on the street. And everybody who's anybody is already saying that the word on the street is a lie. It's all falsitudes because the word on the street is that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are getting married at Madison Square Garden. That is so gross. That's true.

The grossest choice, because everyone's like, it makes sense the security that people can part. and then they come in and they make, but it's just like, guys, do you really think that at this point, if we all thought that and the date was out, you think that, do you really think she's getting married at Madison Square Garden? She could rent an island. Right. Why would she go to the middle of New York City at Madison Square Garden with thousands of people? Like, why would she do that when she wants privacy more than anything?

Why did she do that? I say this is someone who got married in Manhattan, but the idea of getting married and then walking outside onto 34th Street is like so unpleasant. Yeah, so unpleasant. Just urine everywhere. Although I loved it at your wedding, MJ,

because it was really great. Yeah, and then, oh, God, we just had to take the train there. You were the only wedding I'd ever been to that I just had to take the train to. Yeah, yeah, I mean, getting married, you know, if she wants to get married to Manhattan, there's many lovely places to do it. And MSG is a great Manhattan.

I've actually, haven't seen a basketball game or a show at MSG. No shade MSG, it's obviously a historic venue. I guess part of me is like Taylor Swift getting married at a concert venue might be kind of cute. But I also feel like there's just the idea of like, I don't know, are you going to have guests and many guests as fit the, what? It's inherently flawed concept, you know? It doesn't make any sense. We don't.

We could have Sebastian Man Oskalco there doing them. Whoa. What is got come up next? We like, in our home, we like to do our Sebastian Madaskolco bits at each other of, oh, what? We can't say nothing anymore. We're just, you know. You're going to come off the subway? She's going to ride the subway out there.

We were talking about our family's love of Sebastian Metascar. Our extended family's love of Sebastian Manckelco. But, yeah, you know, I just feel like if this information, was real, she would have changed it by now. So I do feel that this is a lot of like them seating. They're like, let them keep thinking that so that nobody's actually looking at anything. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

Because it's this, isn't it supposed to be like June? It's already in June. What is this wedding happening? They're saying July 3rd. But I thought that, I thought the whole thing was at like 13, but 13. Yeah. So I, you know what? I don't know.

I don't fucking know. I hope that, to be honest, I'm not like a. Taylor person and I she's obviously got many issues but I hope they do have a chance to just like secretly do it a little bit. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Let them have their wedding. Yes. I hope that they get their time that is just for the two of them. If that is what they wish or if all of it is. Oh, just a stage. You know, life is a stage. Natalie. I if they're actually in love, I hope they have like maybe this is all just to like keep deterring people from whatever's happening, you know. Yeah. Well, everybody who's anybody who's anybody. is saying that, well, obviously they're in love because Taylor's not talking to any of her friends anymore. And all of her friends are like, where's Taylor? She's 20 feet up, Travis's ass. That's what everybody at page six is saying, because you know they still have a Taylor Swift correspondent.

So they got to have some kind of publications coming out. Okay. Great. Taylor Swift correspondent just wakes up every day and bashes their head against the wall. And it's like, let's get to it. Now, I know that I got to get on over to the list. But before I get to the list, I do have a couple of snackies that are slurpees. We've got some Jackie's slurpees. I might have brought a Jackie Snacky. What? Oh, my God, are you trying to be all up in Jake?

Because Jake is the only other guessos. I'm always trying to be up in Jake. I know. Don't tell Marie. Uh-oh. We're going to have a showdown. I mean, the drama. Can you imagine?

Can you imagine? the real drama that happens here. Now, I wanted to start this because I was excited because I found these two flavors and I, you know, Natalie, I know that there are certain things. I'm never trying to bring yucky stuff to Natalie. So these are, I think, positive things.

Thank you. Now, we love a Waterloo and Waterloo has been coming out with Guy Fieri flavors. Yeah. They have been for a minute. Yeah. They have just released more of the Guy Fieri.

We have. Wravers, yes, and I have two of them here. Oh, shit. And now which one would you like to start with? Because I figure we'll start with one, we'll try it, and then when we get to the snackies later, we'll do the other one. Okay. And then we'll get to your snackies.

Now, which one do you want to start with? We have a Waterloo root beer float. So root beer. A salter? A seltzer. And then we have a seltzer apple pie a la mode. Oh, God. Oh, wow.

I am fascinated by both of these choices for Guy Fieti. Well, especially because the last ones were kind of... They were not mad. Very good. So which one do you want to start with, Natalie? I will start. You want to try the apple one first? Yeah, let's try the apple one first.

Because I feel like the root beer is just going to taste like root beer. I feel like it's just going to taste like root beer without any sugar in it. Yeah, I imagine because it's a water root beer. Hi, Jackie, I thought you were going to bring the, uh, a Love Island seltzer that I saw you trying on Instagram. Only bought one of them. Can I throw this out there? That olipop was disgusting.

Love Island has its own... It's called like Love Pop or something. And I try to sip of it and it was disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. I fully poured all the ali pops that I had for some reason in my fridge down the drain the other day. Really?

Like an alcoholic pouring out booze. I was like, goodbye, Ollie Pop. I'm not doing it. Okay, Natalie is having... Natalie doesn't know. The root beer? Nope, it's a no. It's an apple pie.

I'm going in for the apple pie. Okay. Ooh, apple pie and a seltzer. And I'm a water... I love a waterloo. Yeah. These are not good. Both of these have creams involved.

But there's no cream. There's no cream. There's nothing. It is just... It's, man, kiss from a rose, kissed by an apple. I feel like they had... They put an apple somewhere close to the vine. vicinity of an open,

regular sparkling water, and they just left an apple and they were like, maybe if we leave the apple in the room long enough, it will permeate through the hydro molecules. And I think that's what they did to get this flavor. I'm just really not sure how they're saying it's al-a-mode at all.

It just... There's no olive. It's lightly apple. I think it's because there's a slight hint of cinnamon in it. That's probably how they're kind of like framing that. Oh, my God, you're so right, Natalie. You're so right because it isn't just apple. It's a slight cinnamon.

You know what? It's so weird. It tastes like you have an air freshener in your mouth a little bit. And also, the Guy Fieri one specifically don't have a lot of flavor where I, as I feel like Waterloo does actually usually have a lot of flavor. Which is surprising because I'm going to say it. And I am going to say it. This is divisive. It's almost as bad as his sauces. Wow. I've said it. I've said it. I've come out against donkey sauce. I'm against it. I don't really like his sauces. I keep going to these Guy Fietti restaurants and they're like, it's the chicken shack. You put a bunch of shit on a chicken. And I'm like, great. And it's just not. And it's not very good. Yeah. You know, we come for the look and the vibe and we leave for the politics and the sauces. And all the food. Yeah. From the food.

Side-diding him pretty hard these days. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, when he was in the pictures and he's like, it was just pictures. I didn't know. He was a sex trafficker. I had no idea. He was just pictures.

But, okay, sorry, I needed to start there because, you know, we'll get into our root beer float in a little bit. All right. So holding out hope. Yeah. Oh, what, for the root beer float? I don't know. You got one more chance. Oh, I don't know.

Fietti. Fiatty. Yeah, because even last year he was like Blackberry Cobbler. That one sucked. Not good. It just wasn't good. Like Huckleberry Cobbler. Oh, that's true.

It was Huckleberry Cobbler. Yeah. Not good. It's time for the list. Oh, who's on the list? Me. Jackie, got to have that list. Shocking slub scandals from back in the day that everyone somehow collectively forgot about

that they 100% should not have. Uh-oh. And interestingly enough, maybe the reason why I chose this list was because Lilo was at the top of the list in a bizarre scandal, because I did. did forget about this, even though it wasn't that long ago. I cannot find enough people. I find not enough people know. Lindsay Lohan came under fire in 2018 after live streaming her attempt to, quote, unquote, rescue what she claimed were, quote, unquote, Syrian refugee children,

on Instagram. In the video, she could be seen approaching a family on the street, potentially in Russia, but it's unclear, trying to convince the parents to allow her to take the children to a hotel so they can watch a movie. The parents repeatedly refuse and seem confused, so Loanne starts getting abrasive, criticizing the mother for failing to take care of her children, and accusing them of child trafficking. The family tries to leave, but Lohan follows them and tries to take the hand of one of the children, at which point the mother seems to push her.

It's hard to tell the video. The whole incident was bizarre and uncomfortable. That was not that long ago, but I remember, and I remember at the time being so confused, but, like, I did forget about that. I do think this is partly her journey to sobriety. I'm not making an excuse for her,

but this probably was her rock-bottom area. Yeah, she was going through a real rough time at this. I totally forgot that whole era where she, like, moved to Dubai and everything. Oh, yes. With the accent and everything and just, yes. The idea of trying to rescue children from their own parents and then attacking the parents for not letting you kidnap their children. Yeah.

Yeah. It's fascinating. And don't worry, yes, the Carvel black card is number two on the list. So I just wanted to, we're really rounding it out here. Good, good, good. It led to this. That is the domino of how she ended up trying to steal a child. Yes.

And this is how you know that we have been podcasting since before the era of podcasting, David Hasselhoff's Cheeseburger video. MJ, do you remember going through this Cheeseburger video? Oh, yeah. I remember on the show. On the show. From 2000 and I guess nine, eight. I think, well, we started page seven in two.

in 2010, but this says that the video was from 2007, but... But it came out when we were doing page seven. It came out when we were doing page seven. It did, because I then asked you and Marcus, are you familiar with his music videos, jump in my car? And then watch the music videos. Jump in my car. Still, absolutely terrific.

And then also he does hooked on a feeling as well, which is also very good. But yes, this is... Oh, my God, I want to stop the show and watch this video. He's shirtless. He's yelling at it as much. laying on the floor, eating a cheeseburger. And she's telling him not to drink that night. Oh, that's kind of sad.

Yeah, no, it's a very sad video. It actually is back when page seven, we used to, it's like, it is technically, if it was us looking at this video now, we probably wouldn't be like, oh, this fucking drunk. We're going to be kidding a chicken burger. I think that we would look at it with different eyes now, maybe. Different eyeballs. We might have different eyes.

But, you know, This is, I think that, I think that this is, it's good to remember where we, where we've come from. Yeah, look at that. A full circle, is he sober? He is. Great. That is the word on the street. And it came up, maybe we talked about this on the show because it came up at his roast

in 2010. That's probably what it was. And he was able to. Yes. And his daughter took the video in an effort to like shame him into sobriety, which is, you know, I think was quite, quite a good move apparently. Which is why, yeah, I think it didn't immediately come out because it wasn't for social media. I think she was like filming him on a camera.

Yes, yes. And I was trying to show him what he looked like in that moment. Yeah. So now I just brought it down. I hope you're happy. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Well, don't worry.

Other people are doing sad things on this list. But this one was, I guess, a funnier one. This is another one where, you know, maybe we think about it differently. In the wake of all the Justin Bieber's 2010's controversies, people are always seem to forget this bonkers one that occurred when he visited the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam in 2013. Before leaving, he wrote in the guest book, truly inspiring to be able to come here and was a great girl.

Hopefully she would have been a believer. Oh, yeah. Which is what he wrote in May. Jackie brings this up so frequently. I can't even remember if we ended up including it in the October 2023 show that we did because we were like, is this controversial if we say? I think it's bad to bring it up on it. I think, you know, I bet she would have been a believer.

I wish that she would have brought. He should have brought a hologram of her up on stage for that song. Yes. Like he did to Billy Elish. Oh, my God. Yes. Oh, that's nice. That's nice.

I mean, yeah, she was a, give her a thrill. A tween girl. She probably would have been a believer. Yes. But would she have been a monkey believer? Remember Justin's pet monkey, O.G. Malley? The same year, Justin made that. comment about Anne Frank, he tried to bring a capuchin monkey to Germany on a European door.

Customs there confiscated the monkey and put it in quarantine, despite Justin claiming he had the right papers, giving Justin some time to get the correct paperwork and pick Malley up. Except he just didn't. He left the monkey there and they sent it to a zoo. Justin said the whole debacle, people are always like, why did you get a monkey? If you could get a monkey, well, you get a monkey too. Well, he's a kid It's about a trillion dollars

I understand as a child Why you would just be like Why can't I bring a monkey with my arrow? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have a personal antidote. Antigote. Ooh.

Antidote. Antectote. Antectote. Antiquot. Thank you. Is it the cure to something? Yes, it's a cure to your sadness. When we went on our honeymoon in Tulum,

there was like, we were at like a resort thing and they took us out to like see the ruins around there with like a private guide because your honeymoon was fancy and it was these beautiful grounds these ruins are just like you're overwhelmed by it

and then at one point our tour guide was like see this here and of course everything's roped off you can't walk into these ruins you can just look observe them and he said yes once Justin Bieber came here

and he walked over the ropes and he peed inside of this Justin oh Oh, Justin. He was like, they're already ruined. So, I guess, you know. So yes, he may as well put a zipper down and he peed right here inside of these roots.

Wow, did you feel special? Like, you were like, wow, he peed right here. Yeah, and it's like, finally something to be excited about on this ruined tour. I claim to fame is that I stood where Justin Bieber peed. Aw. Right all over the ruins and the history of this place. I think I guess, you know, know, I think I guess that's my list for you.

Yeah? That's what I'm providing. All right. Well, that's wonderful because I seem to be losing my eyesight. I think I'm going. Blind items. Ah, we can't see them. Okay.

So I have a couple of, I think this is going to end up to be three. I have a couple of different blinds that are two different blinds that go together. Ooh. And so this first one. Like grease? Yes, we go together. So this first one, I'm going to do. as a one. This first two I'm going to do as a one. This A-list writer-singer producer

once got dumped by a celebrity offspring of a-lister because of his small endowment. Now, I'm going to go on to number two. Oh, little peepie club. So the guy in number one, that guy with the little peepie, is free to do what he wants and be with who he wants because he got dumped. So this permanent A-list singer comes along and wants him so she can cuck her husband. Then She sees his size and rejects him. Wow, double rejection. Yeah. So your task is to figure out who's got the teeny weenie, who is the celebrity offspring who didn't sleep with him, and then who is the celebrity who wanted to cuck her celebrity husband.

Okay. So first of all, does anyone have any guesses? Take it to the bridge. I absolutely no idea. I could possibly So all right Maybe we start With the celebrity

Offspring All right You know We're talking I'm through Kate Hudson I'm You know

Because all we have to go on Is celebrity Celebrity Child Like what generation Are you talking about I'm I

I'm okay About the Not Not Not Kate Hudson Okay Okay Okay

Okay In terms of the teeny weenie person, I'm just going to say I feel so bad even saying this because this is somebody I really admire. He's a musician, hugely admired amongst our generation, man of many talents. Bruce Springsteen? Younger. Okay. And the celebrity offspring, I had actually never heard of her, but her dad is very famous for being a very old rock star who loves to do Kaokine. Oh, well, that's, I mean, really not narrow.

narrow it down. No, really doesn't. A Rolling Stone? Yes. Okay. But you didn't know it. She existed, so it's not, you don't know,

you didn't know this child existed. I just, I don't think that his, I don't think that this person's child is a household name. Gotcha. He certainly is. And he's often in the blinds for all the co-kind he's doing.

Is it, I forget who's the Rolling Stones. Does that Mick Jagger? Jagger? Yes. Okay, good. You got it. So Mick Jagger's daughter, Jade Jagger,

is the one who, dumped the writer singer producer for his teen ween. Teeny ween. Okay, so we still need to find the singer producer with a teeny ween. I do feel bad because that's not a moral flaw. No. It's not. I know.

I know. I just believe all of the other. No, I understand. We have to know it. We got to know the teeny we. We need it. I agonized over this because all of the other blinds are literally about OSMPIC or you know, P-Ditty. And so I have to find the ones that are not about a Zempeaker P-Ditty.

So I think that the reveal at the end of who has the T-D-Weedy is going to be, I think we have to save it for the end. So who is the one, well, I don't know. Is it better to know who wanted to cuck her husband? Or is it better to know who has the teeny we do? I guess I want to know who cucked the husband. Okay. All right. We talk about them pretty frequently because Jackie had a brief time where she thought the husband was attractive. Ew, Blake Shelton. Ew, Gwen Savani. Yes. It is. is Gwen Stefani, but... Don't judge me, Natalie. It was a long time ago.

I used to be different. I used to be... It used to be different in my brain. Used to be a Sheldhead? Yeah. In a surprise twist, in a surprise twist, the husband listed in this blind is not Blake Shelton,

but Gavin Rostale. So that's not her husband. So we think that this maybe happened a long time ago. Because also, Jade Jagger is pretty old. She's 54. So maybe this whole thing happened quite a long time ago.

I mean, which is interesting. Because I honestly saw Gwen Stefani and I just filled in Blake Shelton. But it was when it was Gavin Rossdale is listed here as the husband. So fascinating though because I would definitely take more of the, it would make more sense if Blake Shelton were the one getting caught. I don't know, man. Much more sense. Like, oh, that makes sense.

I was on a plane once with Gavin Rosdale and he gave me a weird vibe. He did not look good and he gave me a weird vibe. Oh really? Not in a like not in a slinky way. No. No, there was nothing slinky. No. He was with a very much younger sort of like only fans looking woman and he looked like he was like on drugs or something. Mm. Okay. So who has the teeny weenie? This guy is like such a respected musician. Um, he was, he is a, a, a one-man performer, but he also was part of a group in the 90s. He's in his 50s, but he looks very young. I have a hint I could give.

He's won so many Grammys. His songs are like very, very, very popular household names. I know you wouldn't speak this positively about JT. I know that you're in. Not JT. A million times better. Is it a rock person? No.

Pop? No. R&B. No. More hip-hop. Hip-hop. Slash. like a kind of like yeah I'm going to say in the in the hip hop realm but also he kind of like transcends genre in a way

oh my god who is this okay I'm just going to give you a big hint which is big hat big hint big hat you remember who used to wear a big hat big hat my god you don't you don't remember his big hat um okay what else what other hint can I give about him one of the initials Oh, now I remember his big hat. That's what you bring. Farrell? Farrell. That's what you brought solid.

That's even. You bring up the big hat? The big hat? No, what's thinking about Farrell Williams. Well, now I am. Now we remember the big hat. Now we remember the big hat.

Yeah. I mean, I don't, I could have. Yes, his group was a phonetic spelling of a word. I don't know. I was bad to say Jamarquai, but I'm glad that I did it. Because if you're talking big hats. I mean, T. D.D.

teeny big ads. I don't know. So it's not generic why. It's Farrell with the teeny peony. It's, Ferrell. Is that why he's happy? I don't think that's why he would be. Or maybe he likes it because his pants fit better. Yeah. So I just, I just, I, I, um, I don't even know what to say about this because I admire Ferell so much. I saw him, um, at Brooklyn Bowl one time in like 2010. It was like a terrific show. And I don't care that he has a teeny weenie. And I hope that his wife doesn't care. because yes, he is married since 2013.

So I think that this blind must just be an ancient. I feel bad that he was going to get, that he was going to be involved in this cuck-cold situation with the Rostale-Stefani's. I think he's better than that. I know. I know. You're telling me no doubt went to NERD to catch a cucking situation.

And now they're bad-mouthing for L. Williams' endowment. Keep his name out of your mouth, Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rostale. Oh, yeah, go back to Hallow. Go make some money on your prayer app. Yeah, you wish you're an AARD. Yeah. So, yeah, that was a weird one. Okay, so number two, our international superstar is having a real Sophie's choice moment involving one of his children.

He doesn't talk much about his faith, but he's deeply religious and doesn't approve of homosexuality. Oh, God. He's smart enough to keep his controversial beliefs private because he doesn't want to alienate his fans, but behind closed doors, he's a religious. zealot. He recently discovered that one of his children has homosexual tendencies, so he tried to convince them to undergo conversion therapy to pray away the gay. His child rejected the radical idea, and now our guy is completely estranged from them. And a little bit, we don't have to actually even, I don't know, okay, so this blind was written by someone who doesn't understand the LGBTQ Umbrella and this kid, it's not, it's not, I don't know whether they are gay or not, but they are, uh, they have done some gender stuff.

Like, uh, they recently changed their name. Um, and they use they then pronouns. Uh, uh, uh, wait. Uh, well, I know that didn't, uh, one of Angelina's kids just. Yes. Come out. I think that I, uh, you, I don't know about that, but this is a, we're talking that level of famous. This is a, a, this is a, very famous person's child. So the mom is extremely famous. We talk about her all the time. And the dad is the person in this blind item. They are not together anymore.

These children have... It's not goop. These children have unfortunately been in the news a lot just because of who their parents are. And who their mom... No. Who their mom was recently in a very public relationship with and then had a big old flame out divorce.

from a different, you know, a, not the guy in question here. I feel like this is right on the edge of my brain. Yeah, it's because there's been a bunch of, again, unfortunate, I think, spotlight on this kid who, again, just changed their, announced that they're changing their name at their high school graduation ceremony.

Oh, God, I just saw this. Who was it? I also just saw this. I remember. But the mom just did a subway, subway hot takes thing where she said that, yes, yes, yes. Wait, so J-Lo is religious?

No, the dad. Who is? Mark Anthony. Yes. Mark Anthony. Yes. Mark Anthony. Yes.

Who's the dad of Jaylo's children, Mark Anthony. So allegedly, Mark Anthony is not supporting their child who is now going by Oscar Muniz and who I believe uses they-them pronouns. And so, again, I think it's funny that the blind writer was like, gay, it's gay. It's like, I mean, it's gay. But is it is. Yeah, we don't know if it's gay. It's not the same. Don't know who they're attracted to.

But yeah, apparently Mark Anthony. Maybe Mark, maybe Mark Anthony doesn't know if it's gay or not. But he's not supportive, allegedly. I just, man, at this stage, I'm not saying people are closeted when they do this, but I immediately assume you're hiding some weird secret. If you're actually acting like this at this point in time, what is your problem, dude? It's people that it's people that live. under a rock that's people that don't understand other people's life experiences and it's a close-off

shit way of living a life. Enjoy it. I hope I never speak to you. And God, can you imagine being a celebrity kid? It's hard enough to be a celebrity kid, right? We talk about this all the time. But then to be like...

Also exploring your gender as well while you're having like all these pictures be taken of you and everything on top of it. And then you're also on top of all of that, gonna fucking act like a piece of shit, Mark Anthony? It's just like that guy. I have no patience for it. I've none. It's just like it just it yucks me the hell out.

You're right. There's something wrong with you, Mark Anthony. It's like, allegedly. You know Elon's kid Vivian? Yes. She is incredible. And the fact that Elon has written her off as dead is so pathetic. And just like, oh, but you were in the Epstein files.

You are such a piece of shit. and you're acting like your daughter is like this horrible person. She's brilliant. She's smart. She's clever and doing no harm to people. And yet you're, look at your fucking shit. She's amazing not only because, yeah, she's been, she's just for being herself, but because she is also not scared to go after her father.

And no publicly. Yes. On earth. And publicly screaming about it, which, keep doing it. I love her. And our last, and then just a little, a little two, two a bonus is that there another blind suggesting this A-list, everything in her mind, celebrity didn't like the way she looked on her subway thing. She wanted them to change it or edit it or use a different

filter and she was upset and that is of course J-Lo. Of course it's a J-Lo. People understandably were like, this shouldn't be for people who don't ride the subway. She will never be seen on the subway. I know. And yeah, her take is fine, whatever. But like I was like, J-Lo, is that you on the subway? You look out of place. even though I know you are from here. But she didn't, she wanted more filters. But one of three. That's absurd.

I do just keep thinking about that clip that came out. I think it was like six months ago where she like went back to her, like went back to the Bronx somewhere like the street where she lived. And she's like, who are you? She's like, my name is Jennifer. And he's like, oh, he's like, Jennifer Lopez. And she kept waiting for him to be like, wow. And he just was like, why are you here?

What? do it right you here. That was my house. With cameras out front of his fucking house. And he didn't know who the hell you were. It's just so funny where she's just like, can't believe he doesn't know who she is. Jayla's like obviously stunning.

And you know, and the subway thing, she looks beautiful. It looks amazing. The idea, that has to be some kind of like body dysmorphia thing. Of course it is. I know. She can't even think about being on a subway without having lights like change her appearance. It's like the Mariah Carey taking her own lighting everywhere she goes. It's like,

yeah, the subway lighting is subway lighting. She's like, I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. She will not be on film if the lights are not right. For some reason with Mariah, it feels funnier to me. Like it's a cartoon. Like she's doing almost just like, she's almost like doing drag everywhere. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just it's such a cartoonish way of love of being. All right, a quick little number three. This illiterate, illiterate actress is trying to move the feud from just a feud to actively trying to keep her former co-star from getting work. So two actresses. It is.

Yes. And Sydney. Yes. Sydney is being a bitch. Oh, it's Sydney. Of course. I was like, I hope it's Zendaya, but you know it's not going to be Zendaya. You know fucking wouldn't be.

Of course it's going to be Sydney, sweetie. Exactly. And I bet this is all because there's, I don't know if you saw the. pictures Natalie when like the euphoria like all the PR was going on. Yes. That Zendaya like actively avoided Sidney-Sweeney, refused to be seen with her, refused to be in pictures with her, was just like, does not support her whatsoever. She's dating Scooter Braun.

She's dating Scooter Braun. It really is amazing like that you start with euphoria, all these young, promising actors, and then, you know, you fast forward a few years and you have whatever the fuck track Sidney is on. And then you have Zendaya who is just like... perfect. She's perfect. Classy.

She's a perfect. Making really good movies. Like, exuding just like a delightful public celebrity. Like everything that they talk about, like they genuinely love each other. Just like a star. She is just such a star. And Sidney is dating Scooter Braun and going to the Bezos sweating. Oh, yeah.

I forgot about that too. Yeah. And now I can see. what she thinks she's doing. It's not doing, it's not helping her career. I don't know what she's, she's saying,

it's not hurting it. I think she just found her, her, her, her thing that makes her special. But her, like, her movies are not doing well.

It's like, she's not making money for companies. But then the problem is, but then there's the ones like the housemaid where like the housemaid really did pop the fuck off.

Well, that was kind of good. I know. I enjoyed it. That's the thing. Is that like, but it wasn't because of her, I know, what's her name?

It's because of Amanda Seafree. Amanda Seafree. At the same time, she is still getting, like, even in euphoria, while she, you know, it's like, I think a lot of people didn't watch season three. Unfortunately, she's very good at playing a spoiled, crazy fucking bitch. And I will say, besides the bitch part, because I can't speak for that, but I do think that she understands this angle of life. I don't have, I don't really have Umbrinch with.

her acting. I actually really liked her weird horror movie. Immaculate. I did. But that was also before, now I, like, now I refuse to go out of my way to watch her absolutely anything. You know, I just, yeah. Yeah, I really liked her in White Lotus and I defended her for a long time because I was like, okay, she's like a young actor. She's like, a lot of people are like projecting a lot onto her. Right. Totally, totally. A beautiful woman, you know, and people are all weird about it, you know, but then she chose to go down this. For sure. And also it was like her family was MAGA and you're like, well, it's not her fault.

And then suddenly you're like, oh, I guess you are kind of also the same. If you are, there is your fault. Yeah. And that's my blinds and I can see again. Thank you guys. Welcome back. Welcome back to the land of the seeing. Thank you. But too bad you cannot enjoy the land of the

slurping alongside us for you see it is time for Jackie Slurpees. I've been a snackie girl Snacky I've been a snackie girl Snacky I've been a snackie girl Snacky I've been a snackie Snacky snackie

Is somebody gonna eat those chips Is somebody gonna dip those dips Is somebody gonna try those candies I got seminar They say I'm a snack lead Is that I should just do that over the song And then Would you call that a slurp?

Oh no Oh wow the mouth sounds people are very much. Sorry. Sorry, April, if you could put in when I'm making my mouth sounds, it would be great. You're going to keep going. Okay. Yeah, I mean, now that it's now the, you know, once you pop, the fun can't stop. We have to get into this root beer float, whether you want it or not. I mean, I want it. I'm curious. Bring it on. A root beer flavored salt. Let's have a Coca-Cola flavored seltzer. Like, you know, I don't mind. I also don't mind. I have had some of the soda. seltzers before and they're really not too bad. Oh, okay. Natalie, will you pose for me?

Posing with my root beer seltzer. She's excited. Thank you. What smell? What smell is it? You're doing like a wine tasting. Do you have a little swish? Does it have legs?

What about the, yeah, the tannins. Is that? Legs is when it's drippy on the sides, right? Yes, I believe so. I honestly, is it dripping on the side? A bottle of wine. Yeah, we're not doing a lot. a leg in.

I almost feel bad if somebody spends a bunch of money. I'm like, you could have just saved the money. I wouldn't know the difference. Cheers. Now, I'm very curious. Better than the apple pie or worse? I think better. I'm also going to say better.

I think, again, I can see they're like adding this weird tangy thing that's supposed to be the cream. They're really trying to get that cream in there. They're trying to just. It doesn't really work. No, it doesn't. it tastes just like, again, light root beer. But with the weird aftertaste of almost sour cream?

Yeah. I think this is like the problem with the everything bagels had like an after, everything bagel pringles, excuse me, had like an aftertaste of cream cheese that made me want to puke. I was tasting it the rest of the day. I was so upset. You don't want that in a hard, crispy chip flavor. You don't.

You don't. And in a soda, you don't want a dairy aftertaste. I'm going to venture out there. No. And yet, though, there are some of them where, like, where I've talked about, like, with specific Oreos, whenever they have, like, oh, they're adding, like, the ice cream. Like, I feel like they do weirdly get it. Yeah, actually, there's one brand. I forget what branded is, but they do an orang-sical, um, seltzer.

And I actually really like it. Oh, that would the, and it's like orange vanilla. Yeah. I think it is a waterloo. It might be. It is a delicious flavor that has a good cremcicle aspect to it. But I would say, unfortunately, like your. sauces, Guy Fieri.

These are fairly tasteless. Whoa. More like Guy Ferry, not good. Yeah, Natalie. His original last name is Ferry, and it's not Fieri. It's Ferry. It's just Ferry. Are you kidding me?

He should have kept that name. That's a great name, Guy Ferry. Guy Ferry, no, he changed Fierty to sound a little bit more. It's a little more masculine. Yeah, he wanted to be more masculine. And don't you feel that? Don't you get that from all of his his outfit choices? Yeah, there's fun shirts.

I don't want to cut you off MJ because I know you might have a snack, but I just, I got these at Kenny Wood, which I wanted to give Jackie these. I love, well, first real quick, explain Kenny Wood to MJ because MJ you would lose your freaking mind. What's Kenny Wood?

Oh, I'm a theme park adult. I would label myself. And so the original place that got me to that position is Kennywood, which is the Pittsburgh's amusement park, which is 115 years old right now. They have some of like, they still have like a dark ride there that was originally put up in 1899. It's been changed a bunch. Some of the most amazing rides I've ever been on, I will say MJ. And I don't, you can speak to this, Natalie. Have they started selling water?

They have. Okay. Because the last time we were there, they didn't sell water. We were very homeover. There was absolutely like when I took you guys there, there was probably like 2016, 2017, there was zero places you could purchase water. It's like Spirit Airlines. Yeah, you couldn't purchase water, but we were so hungover and you can buy all the soda you want.

Oh yeah. And we just kept trying to drink soda, but we're just so like, I just remember just kept like throwing up soda in the trash cans. But at the same time, I still think about. about that, like, I was so brutally hung over. Yeah. And I threw up so many times that day. And it was one of my greatest theme park experiences of my life.

Wow. I love Kenny Wood. It's good one. They got a Noah's Ark, Dark Ride. Oh, it's so weird. It's so bizarre. But it's also from, like, I think the 60s that it was put up. And you go into the arc and, like, a terrifying Noah, like, follows you, like, through

animatronics inside of it. It's not supposed to be terrified. but it really is. Okay, I'm sold. These very generic, I think they're probably, they look, I think they're edible. They're a little fast food globs. I like, I think they're edible.

I have a snack for you. I think you can eat it. Oh, wow, these are squishier than I expected. They are slimy. I mean, just remember, why are they so wet? I did buy them two weeks ago in Pittsburgh. And took it by an airplane.

You said fast food globs. What is the, what words are? on the package. They're little mini burgers and fries and drinks, but it just says, they slapped a Kennywood sticker on it. Okay. Yeah, it just says three,

I like it. It doesn't intimate that this is actual food. It just says 3D gummy fast food on the back. Okay, you should make sure it's food because also, you know, Squishies are very popular right now. It could be erasers.

Maybe it's a razor. It could be so wet. Why are they so wet? My kids literally have a bucket of gummy fast food as well, but you don't eat it, you squish it. See, that would be very confusing to me as a child. I'd want to lick it. I love the gummy burger.

Remember those like 25 cent gummy burgers? That's what this is. I love it. I love those. Oh. It's food? Oh, it's food. This is also one I found there that's just a random gummy.

Oh, Bob's. Thank you for Bubbs. You're welcome. You're welcome. Bubs are making, are the Swedish candy that's been making the rounds recently, and definitely you can get them at five below, and I love me some bubs. These are horrid. Do you want to try one? Yeah, Pennsylvania's finest. It's not as good as a gummy burger? I will, do you like your gummy burgers? This doesn't taste like candy. It doesn't taste like candy.

I think it's candy. The real gummy burgers, yeah, I love them. I'm worried it's an eraser in that I'm in the middle of eating an eraser. No, it does say, it does say it's, I think. I think it's food, but I am currently eating it and I don't know if it's food or not. It's not good. It's like really, really bad. You know what it tastes like? It tastes like something that would be like in your box of like new shoes and it's like, don't eat this. Don't eat this.

Yeah. Like a silicone package. And they're all wet. Why are they so wet? I, again, you got to be careful because squishies are very trendy these days. They're not expired. It says to 627 and we're not there yet. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Just on the edge, though. I'm pretty sure all of that is made out of plastic and I think that it would last until the dinosaurs come back. I think that they would find these. No, I'm never shitting that out. That's a part of that little burger is now a part of me forever. And you know what? Thank you, Natalie.

Can you imagine eating that after being so hungover on one of those rides like two? Oh, my God. especially the dark ride MJ, I remember specifically they are known for their spuds, right? The potato patch fries. The potato patch fries. I love that those are great. No, they're going to.

I was so long over and I was like, I'm completely empty. I just need to put food on me before we go on this dark ride. And what Natalie didn't tell me is that the dark ride, you get shoved into it. And then there's a bar that's a exterminator. They're exterminator. They're shoved into your stomach.

And I remember just being like, who, who. And then I was like, oh, oh, oh. It also spins you incredibly fast in the dark. Oh, man. This is the only thing about small amusement parks, which I also love for the atmosphere, but most of small amusement parks rides go in circles. You know, like I can do a roller coaster if it goes forward,

but I cannot do any of like the Gravitron or the Pirateship. The dark rides ain't for you then. I will say that. No, puking in the dark. That one's essentially a wild mouse that is pitch in pitch black that like, goes around the edges, but spins you at the same time. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Well, speaking of once you pop, you can't stop. I'm back with more novelty pringles. They're back with more pringles. Wow. Wow. I see and I want to snout. Down to the Vegas where I mean.

I something new. It might blow my mind. Hello, spicy. Hello. Crunch. J. My mama, mini munch. Hello, Dill.

You're my wild thrill. It's down jays, ma, ma, mama. Minute munch. Minut munch. Minut munch. Last week, it was the everything bagel, pringles. And it was the first chip, I think, that I've ever tried on the show that I immediately threw in the garbage. It was.

Really, they really, really disliked it. And it haunted you. Yeah. You had burps all day, he said? Yeah, no, it followed. So this is the seven-layer dip Pringle. Oh, boy. I'm worried it's going to fall into the same issues that we were having with our drinks where

is it too many flavors to try to get on one chip? Almost certainly. Almost certainly. And the stakes are high because, again, I love seven-layer-diff. I'm afraid of the cream after effects on this one too. Because that's the thing. You've got to be scared of the sour cream. And like, is it given tomato?

Like, are we getting the pico on there? Wow. Yeah, there is Pico in a seven-layer dip. I'm getting beans. Gets very refried bean forward. I'm getting, I am getting like some salsa. And I think I'm getting some black olive. Wow.

Wow. And I don't think I hate it. I might also be getting lettuce. I swear to God, the lettuce thing, like the late night Dorito tacos, when they make it taste like lettuce. Oh, my God, and they weirdly get lettuce in it. It blows my mind. Yeah, I don't hate these.

Natalie, does it scare you to eat shit? Like if you, if it's like, this is a pork and beans chip, are you scared of eating that because like, because you're a veggie? Well, a lot of times they have, they're not vegetarian. Right, right, right. So I don't. So I wouldn't eat any of that. But if I could find one that was, would you get into it? I'd try, I'd lick it.

Okay. Like the buffalo I need. I tried a lot of buffalo wing flavored items that were not meat. technically, but they gave chicken in a way that I think might actually be pretty disturbing to a vegetarian. Yeah. I think a lot of times the meat stuff will, like, have a smoky flavor, which I don't mind at all, but I don't know if it, like, I bailed on the turkey Oreo, remember? Yes.

Yeah. Oh, well, that's, you're a sane person. Yeah, that was, that was completely understandable. That was really, that was a horror show, for sure. But yeah, these are good. You know, I kind of want to really go wild and make a seven-layer dip and then dip these in seven-layered dip and have like a seven-layer dip, you know, matrix situation. Oh, my God. I love it. Also, we've been adding Jackie's snack box into Jackin, which is, yeah, it is supposed to sound as

disgusting as that. And I was making Holden, a positive thing. I mean, I did make him eat the guppers from last week. I did make him go through that. Also, just for everyone to know, after the huge debacle that we had over Olivia Rodrigo, we now have instilled mouth jail for Holden on Fridays. So if you want to come and donate to put him into mouth jail, you can so that he has to be silent. And then I start a timer and he has to be silent. And the problem is he tries to get into the chat

and he tries to talk to me through the chat. And he's not allowed to do that. But I bring this up because we were eating putteen chips that were from Canada. And they were also given great words. It's like it got all of the butteen. It was crazy. But I did have crazy burps afterwards.

Yeah, that would probably, I feel like it wouldn't be sexy to eat that and then have. You know, there's not a lot sexy about drinking a bunch of fireball and sweating with Holden in my office. You don't really go have sex right afterwards. You know, not usually. Usually I have to shuck Holden out of my house like he's a clam and not in the fun way. Throw him out on the street like a vaudeville performer. Like, you know, get and stay out. Exactly.

Like beans, the fresh, the fresh prince thing. Yes. We throw out of Jeff. You're right out of here. But no, it's beautiful and it's wonderful. So don't worry, guys. Snacks are infiltrating everywhere. And even Natalie, you were thinking about me.

You can make hold and eat these. Oh, my God, I can make hold and eat these. I am going to save them for him. He erasers. Yes, I'll be like, oh, that's a fun segment to do of where I give him food. and then I make and then give him food that's not food and he has to guess which food is food and which food is not food. That is, yeah, food or not.

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