Page 7 - Halloween Second Helpings

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

This week on Second Helpings, MJ and Jackie are conjuring up the spirit of Halloweens past, including Jackie goin' to a really spooky haunt in an abandoned mall and MJ's past trauma/fun from "The Haunted Forest" and MJ's kids keep goin' to the haunts, but Baby Michael Myers is not their cuppa tea, revelations were made this holiday season that have lead to MJ and Gideon takin' on more monsta movies, including the Swedish "Let The Right One In", PLUS DON'T FORGET TO CHECK OUT BLOODBATH ON YOUTUBE! It was Halloween Week on DWTS, which now leads MJ and Jackie havin' some questions about the DRAMA and Injuries!! GIDEON NEEDS TO CHECK HIS FACTS B4 COMIN' FOR BBY IRWIN as he got poocraved, despite everyone being saturated in Stranger Things merch, it ain't comin' back til AFTER HALLOWEEN, in November, but does anyone even want to watch Mr. Duane Reade Bagga Butt Plugs now? Jackie got to see "Bugonia", but she won't ruin it! "K-pop Demon Hunters" is doin' 1 more theatrical run THIS WEEKEND ONLY, and Jackie rewatched "The Frighteners" for the first time since she was a kid! Mariah Carey will be unthawing herself THIS EVENING to welcome her upcoming season, PLUS Jackie DESECRATED the Halloween season by making A TURKEY! - Happy Halloween Everybody!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The year is 2012. The setting. New York City. There are a thousand stories in the naked city. And this one is about blood. Vampires are reeled. They stalk the streets, feeding on the living. Nobody is safe.

Join me, Henry Zabrowski, along with Jackie Zabrowski and veteran TRPG player Ross Bryant for an actual play series set in the Vampire the Masquerade universe. from the mind of Game Master Jared Loker. The show will premiere on the LPNTV YouTube channel starting on Wednesday, October 29th, and will release on a weekly base. People will die, then get back up and bite you.

Will my character succumb to the beast within? Can Jackie navigate the Byzantine intrigues of the dam? The future is in the street. All we know is, it's gonna be a bloodbub. LPN RPG presents Bloodbath. Every Wednesday on the LPN TV YouTube channel. It all begins on October 29th. Enjoy the mysteries.

And it is difficult for us today to even have an episode where we're not talking about Dancing with the Stars. It is Halloween week of Dancing with Stars. We're not going to talk about it off the game. It consumes me. It's really, you know, because it's we all know what it's like down here. It's horrors. It's horrors everywhere.

Horrors. It's all horrors. It's not the fun horrors. It's okay. I'm not talking about Beetlejuice or Michael Myers. I'm talking about... Well, you've said Beetlejuice once and I've said it twice. So let's just be mindful of that.

I'm not talking about a fun, haunted playground like my children attended last Friday and got very scared. Oh, do you tell with their ghost children? It was... There were not ghost children, but there were like 10-year-olds dressed up as Michael Myers trying to scare the smaller children. Yeah. Which, honestly, I think is a part of life. Part of it.

This is when I become, this is when as a millennial, I become the most boomer where I'm just like, you'll be fine. And my kids are like, I hate it. And I'm like, then don't do it. They're like, but I want to do it. But I don't want that Michael Myers kid to be in there. I'm like, well, Michael Myers is how it is. So you got to, you can choose to not do it or you can choose to get really scared by

Michael Myers, and that's it. I love this for you, MJ. I feel like it's literally the only boom. freedom you allow in your brain is this specific thing. And I think it's great because the fear is most of it. That's what I mean, I'm going to a very scary haunt this evening. Fun. Haunt that I had been to many years ago that's in a big abandoned mall. And there is this space that you go to walk into and it just looks like two huge torps touching each other. And they're just

like, well, how am I supposed to get through? It's just like, they're like billowing and pressing against them. So you have to press your body through them as they're being blown at you. But then on both sides of your head behind the tarp, it's creepy people whispering and saying things at you and you hear it as you pass. I don't like that. That's what the inside of my head sounds like. And you've no idea how long the room is going to be and how long it's going to take you to get out of it. It's very upsetting. Ooh, I do like that. Yeah. Well, that's, and I, you know, that's part of the fun. That's the part of the fun. I do try to explain to, because I have one kid who's, who is more disturbed by, you know, the kind of general aesthetic of Halloween than the other. And I try to tell them,

like, you know, the, the idea of Halloween is that maybe it's a little fun to be scared, but only when you know you're safe. And you can have the feeling of being really, really, really, really scared, but also the knowledge that you're safe. And so I, you know, it's falling on deaf ears, but that's, that's fine. I do, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I have to figure it out. Again, we were millennials. And I, and I tell them every year that every year when I was a kid, we would go, um, because I didn't live, I lived in a, in a city, but it was close to the woods and to nature

and everything. And so every year there was something, there was something called the haunted forest. That is scary. Which I'm still traumatized by, um, which my brother wanted to go to. What happens in the haunted forest? Oh, it was like, I, it is, this is, this is, this is, this, this, this, again, this will make me the biggest boomer. I'm like, you think this is scary. You have no idea how scary it was when I was a kid.

Yeah. Because the haunted forest. We kids were being kidnapped off the street, willy-nilly. It was. And we loved it. We thanked them for it. You would go to the woods at night in the darkness. And there would be adult, grown adults dressed in terrifying costumes with fake chainsaws. Yes.

With fake chainsaws who jump out from behind the trees in the darkness at you. And I, we started going this. Three wheeling, there's no like track you have to follow. You're just like in the forest. I think there was a path. I think there must have been a path. But it, I, we started to go on to this when I was like six, you know? Whoa.

I was so, like, I, it is hilarious. And like, I don't even think my dad went. I could have stayed home, you know, like, but I, of course, didn't want to. I didn't want to be left out. Want to be a part of it. I'd go every year and I would just cry and scream and cling to my mom as if my life was truly in danger. hated the haunted forest and we went every year. And I love to say this to the kids because they're like, why did you do it?

I'm like, I don't know. But again, back then, it just, and I had very loving and attentive parents. They didn't make me go. You had an older sibling. You got to show up as a younger sibling. And it was just like, I don't know, we just did it. It didn't, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.

Like, you live in a, you children now, you live in a generation where we consider your mental health needs. And that, we didn't, the millennials didn't have that, which is maybe why we're so obsessed with your mental health now because nobody was and again nobody cared yeah nobody cared so I was so scared so I'm like you can have a little haunted playground you can have a 10 year old jumping out at you and a michael meyer's mask it's fine they're not going to touch you it's going to be fine but also mj I know probably not in the last seven years but when was the last time have you been to like a haunt as an adult I don't think I've ever been to a haunt as an adult that might I might I feel like

I remember trying to do like a haunted house in lower Manhattan like that there was like a big haunted, like a fun, you know, New Yorkie. Blood Manor or something like that. But I don't think that I have, to be honest. I've done the ones in the city before, and don't get me wrong. They are all, lots of them are fun and they are scary. It's just that any of the haunts I went to in New York, again, this was, you know, 10 years ago at this point, but, and also I had no money.

So I remember saving up to go to it and then being let down because I had no money. I had saved up for it. And then also, you just get out of the haunted house and you're on like six and 14. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's something missing in the fact that you're not in the middle of nowhere. Totally. You're not, but you're not in some sprawling place. Like, I feel like it's like the fear of living in New York and being attacked at all times.

Like, that's already here. So it's like, I don't need really that. That's, I feel like the adult version of a haunted house in New York is just like going to live blood and being like, okay. I'm in a warehouse. It's dark. Everyone's not drugs. I don't know anybody. I don't know where the exit is. Yeah. If there's a fire, we're all going to die.

We're all dead. That's the haunted house experience in New York. Live in life. So I feel that it does get a little lost in the city. But again, maybe it would be different now if you didn't have to save up for a whole year just to get the ticket to get into it. You know what I mean? And the woods really like, I'm sure I've talked to.

about this before on the show, but when I was in high school, the last time I remember, like, around Halloween being truly, truly scared was that, so when I was in high school, we watched the Blair Witch Project, and then we went out to, there is a park in Dubuque, Iowa that was a, like, a amusement park that got flooded and a bunch of people died in, like, 1905. Real haunted amusement park! And it is a haunted amusement park with like an... What amusement park is this, I need to go. I have to be there yesterday.

MJ, how have we known each other for this long? And you haven't told me about the haunted theme park? There is, I mean, it was, you know, it's a small town amusement park. So I think that they're probably back in 1905, I think there might have been like a merry-go-round and stuff. But what it is now is just like abandoned facilities. The scariest part is that there's just a big abandoned swimming pool that's still there. Which I find an empty abandoned swimming pool in the middle of the woods.

very disturbing. It's extremely Are You Afraid of the Dark? And so we It was called Union Park and it was We all learn about it in school and it was just like It was flooded in a tragedy and the ghost Still haunted. And yeah there's just like there's no like Haunted Ferris wheel or anything anymore. It's truly

just an abandoned grounds with like the like the sad relics of like what was once family outing event in a hundred years ago. So we went after watching the Blair Witch Project and I think that's probably the most scared I've ever bit of my life. Oh my God. That's so fun. See, this is the thing. I'm so real life scared of so many things. And yet, I love to be scared when I'm safe like you're telling your children. Again,

I think that it's the vulnerability of it. But while also, oh, at times being able to ride roller coasters, and I will say not that long ago, good friends of ours, Derek and Jordan got married in a haunted castle and inside of the suite because we were staying inside of the castle and we were in they gave us the haunted suite because we were the spookiest of their friends and there was a whole section that had a bunch of children's pictures and then a window that like went into the floor right and and and with like a chaise like a chaise chair and nothing else in the whole corner. and I tell you, I didn't go anywhere fucking near that corner

the entire time. And we were fucking all through that sweet. And I was like, you can't fuck in front of the children. No, haunted children are. I feel like if we fuck in front of those haunted children, something's going to happen. Yeah. No, I...

Or it's going to be great. I don't know. I couldn't do it. Yeah. No, you don't want to fuck there. I understand that. I do love a haunted child. We just watched...

Except I don't like those kids. I love a haunted kid. I love a haunting by a kid, but ghost kids, Blackbone 2? Lose me. You didn't like Blackbone 2. Gideon and I just watched the Swedish version of Let the Right One In, which is not a ghost kid, but it is a Amplah kid. Yes.

Oh my God. And Gideon watched it? Gideon loves Gidea. This is what we have come to terms with this season. And I want to thank everyone for reaching out with your gentle Halloween recommendations. Everyone was very thoughtful. a lot of people dealing with the same thing. Our anxiety levels and our baseline levels of upset are very high.

And it's like, what can I do? What can I deal with at 9 p.m. at night? And so we did watch Practical Magic, by the way. I need, oh, God. And I told you Jeff's never seen it. And I was like, oh, my God. But of course, like he's like, yeah, I was like in the same way that Holden talks about. He's like, yeah, it was at the time, it was a girl movie.

So I wasn't watching that movie. Totally. But how was the rewatch? I enjoyed it. Yeah, I like a witch movie. I really... Dr. Kovach's fucking... Dr. Kovach's...

Oh, baby. Yes, I enjoyed practical magic a lot. I really... And so, yeah, what we discovered is that that Gideon can do zombies and vampires, but no demons. No demons, no ghosts.

Zombies and vampires, no demons, no ghosts. I want to haunt it. I like paranormal activity. I like, you know, like the... Yeah. All of the, like, haunting of Hillhouse ones and the Blind Manor ones. I like, I love a haunted house.

But so he'll, he's fine with vampires and zombies. So we have done let the right one in, Swedish version. Can you do scary zombies or does he only like more chill zombies? No, we did 28 days later. Bro, okay. You're doing 28 days later. Throw a train to Busan in there. Train to Busan.

Okay. It is, I think, my favorite zombie movie. Really? And I'm not a huge zombie fan per se, but I'm trying to let zombies back into my life for a little bit more. I'm letting the right one in, but not a vampire this time. It's a zombie. It is a zombie, please, MJ.

And I think that he, you guys might dig it. It is a very, sometimes they feel like throw it out there. You know, I love a fast zombie. Oh, yeah. I think that's really what I'm starting to understand. I love a 28 days later. I love a train de bus on. I love, I love, like, rather than the, uh, uh, uh, uh, but,

like works sometimes. And also like this happens every time. I've talked about this on the show many times whenever I watch sci-fi and I like get it. I'm like, oh, like it's an allegory for politics and Gideon's like, uh-huh.

And then we watched 28 days later and I'm like, oh, humans are the real threat. And he's like, yes, yes. Do you remember? Haven't you been watching Buffy for a long time? Yes, exactly. Man is the monster. Night of Living Dead.

Oh, oh. Oh, it's about the monstrosities that humans can inflict upon each other. This is why people like horror. Oh, okay. All right. Now I get it. Now I understand. And are you going to continue? You guys saw 28 days later. Are you going to continue in the saga? That's what I was wondering. Is Killian Murphy there? If he's there, I'll watch it. That's what I learned. I'll watch anything he's in. Then keep going. He's in the second one, right Adam? He's not in the second one. No. No. So maybe don't keep going. I'm done then.

It is great, though. They are, they are great. Like, they are genuinely great. And like, they're doing this whole, like, they're in the process of a full three, I think trilogy, in this next section as well that they just released the first one of with old dick-sucking fines himself, but he's killing it. That does imply that he's the one doing the dick-sucking. He's just the one asking for dick-sucking. He's imploring for it. But again, we're fine with it.

Yes, but we're fine with it. Yeah, we are fine. We are rape fines with it. That's who we're talking about. We're talking about it. We talk about rank fines, yes? Oh, yeah. Just want to spell it out.

Yes. Thank you. But no, 28 weeks later is the, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. No, no. They are, not all of them are as good as the first one. Uh-huh.

I mean, how could it be? I think that 28 days later is one of my favorite movies. Really? So good. Yeah. Like, I mean, I guess I would say in the world of horror, probably top in, it's definitely my top 10 in the world of horror. But do you find that, and I can do it, but I find ever since the pandemic, I do not enjoy an

apocalypse movie. Oh, really? Because I feel like I lived through a bit of an apocalypse. And now when I watch an apocalypse story, I'm just, it feels very realistic to me. Like, I'm watching 28 days later and I'm like, this could absolutely happen. Oh, yeah. And, yeah, like I loved why the last man, but then I was like, I actually. actually think I need to stop why the last man. It was so good, but I was like I just, and the

apocalypse, it just hits. That was during pandemic. That was during pandemic. I was like, too much. Too close to home. I think I watched the first like four episodes that I was like, I can't continue. It is really good. But I do. I reference why the last man all the time because usually whenever norovirus hits our kids elementary school will get like a notification that was like, dear parents, 40 children had to go home today. And I always picture it like why the last man went like Oh my God. Oh my God. It's like, we don't need this.

Vampires. Oh, I can't wait to start sending you down the lane of vampires. Now, especially let the right one in. Wonderful. It's so good. Outstanding movie. And it is, and maybe some might not be into it if you know that they are child vampires, but maybe you'd be even more into it.

I love Let the Right One in. And you know how I feel about it. child stars. So it must be pretty good. It must be fine if you're Swedish is what I'm telling myself. Like, I'm like, these Swedish children. If you're Swedish and we can, right? We're still making that accent? I can say, it's a Swedish chef. It's my Swedish chef impersonation. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's okay to make fun of how Swedish people sound. They're very beautiful. I mean, they're beautiful in a way we could never even dream of being. So it's like, I feel like, we can make the joke. But let the right one in.

so great. I do think that it is interesting. Specifically, I always reference Let the Right One In and what it's American counterpart I think is just called Let Me In. Yes. And always interesting when they do almost like a shot for shot remake that something can be lost in translation. And I find specifically with Let the Right One In and Funny Games, these are two separate, very very, very different movies that I find. And it, oh God, the James McAvoy movie that just came out that was a remake. I'm including it as well. Speak No Evil, which is also a remake that I feel like loses something from the European

to American translation that is, like, it loses some of its freeze. It loses some of the tension, I feel like it's, it's, I find it fast. though. And I don't know how or is it just our sensibility. It's just in how it's made. I know. I was wondering the same thing. I mean, I'm sure Adam has a lot of feelings on this, but he doesn't have a microphone. He can't speak. He is silenced. Yeah. No, I also, because we almost watched Let Me in right after Let the Right One in. And then, yeah, I watched the trailer and I was like, oh, it's like a shot for shot thing. I don't know. There's just something about, I think, the way that I feel like Sweden plays a character in Let the Right One in. You know, it's like so dark and so cold. and so kind of like, I don't know, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's, I actually do want to watch it just to, to compare, but I was like, this is totally one of these ones where I feel like that, like, yeah, like where they are is, is intrinsic to the, to the fear. Well, and that's part of like with speak no evil. I'm not going to get, I'm not going down the, you haven't seen these movies. I'm not just going to talk at you about how I feel about these movies, but I will say the original speak no evil is one of the most like low key upsetting movies. I do not. You guys do not watch Speak No Evil. That is also the idea that it's very based in reality.

Okay. And I think about it all the time. Just one of those. And it's not even in a disturbing, like, image way, just the movie itself. So, yeah, I just think it sometimes loses something. But I'm going to start hitting you guys. But you guys did watch interview with the vampire at the show. We watched the interview with the vampire. The show, the movie. Yeah, we do a lot. Gideon's a real vampire boy. I'm surrounded by vampire people. You're a vampire person.

He is a vampire person. Yeah. Bamba! Check it out. YouTube.com slash at LPNTV. If you want to see me, live my dream of being a sexy vampire. Big, thick, sexy vampire. Man, I did.

I made a character. Excuse me if I've already said this to you on microphone. But in talking to Jeff, I explained what I wanted my vampire character to look like. And Jeff was like, you just made a vampire woman you want to have sex with. And I was like, yeah. So I feel like in TTRPGs, I've only created a character three times at this point. But every time I create a version of somebody I'd like to have sex with. And I didn't realize that most people.

don't. That's not usually what they're adding into their role-playing experience, but I want to feel sexy all the time, including when I'm also on the battlefield. I understand. I feel like this is like one of the interesting things about having fluid gender and or sexuality is your, is the, interesting tension of like, do I want to be this person or do I want to have sex with this person? Yeah, yeah. And it is, honestly, it's something that I love about being. queer. It's what of my favorite parts? I'm just like, I don't know. All I know is that I'm a lord in some fashion, which is actually, I mean, not to go down the vampire hole rovas, but like that's technically like what the Toriador clan is, which is what my vampire is. It is the like the romantic.

It is the like the Anne Rice sexy vampires, but also they go mad from beauty. Like they could lose themselves in things being so beautiful that they get so. so obsessed with it that they, that they're gone. That does sound like you. Right? Whoa. This is appropriate for you.

I know. I couldn't believe like, you, I was like, you thought I wasn't going to choose a Torridor? Like, I don't know how to,

like, you know, Ross is playing this vampire who is like truly demented and mad. Like the Malcolm, uh, uh,

Malkon, I can't remember the word. But they are the ones that are like, actually truly can go into someone's brain and break it. And he's so scary. And I was like, did you want to also fuck your character? And he also was surprised when I asked that question. And he plays TTRPGs professionally. So that's when you know you're made for it. You're bringing revolutionary ideas.

Thank you. Revolutionary ideas. TTRPG. TTRPG. Tabletop role play games. I just wanted to say for anybody out there that think that, oh, any of those things I would never be into it. There's probably one out there that's for you. Yeah. How about the fact that Dylan Ephron said that he loves a romanticcy? Did you explode?

I texted you right away. And I sent MJ a picture of the actual face I was making at the end of Dylan Ephron's dance, which was mouth agape. Like, I can't believe you couldn't see the drool coming from my fucking mouth. because it is Halloween week on Dancing with the Stars. We're talking about it now. You want to jump in already? I kind of want to, I mean, okay, listen, I, as a peruser of the tabloids,

Dancing with the Stars has truly taken over the pop culture news cycle this week because there's all this shit talking about Yon. And we don't need to talk about Taylor Swift. Don't turn off the TV, okay, guys. Don't turn off your phone. Don't turn off the phone. What, MJ? I was the oldest man thing I've ever heard you say.

Don't you turn off the TV. Don't panic. Don't your telephone. Don't you hang up the telephone on the rotary dial. We have a little squeeze toy that we got in the mail that is like a stress toy. We call him stressful Ken. And he goes, don't panic. Calm down.

Take it easy. So now unfortunately those phrases are really, have really entered the lexicon. Don't panic. Don't panic, calm down, take it easy. So everybody don't panic, calm down, take it easy. Take it easy. We don't need to talk about Taylor Swift, except to the extent that Jan Rovnik, Jan Rovnik, was a backup dancer on Taylor Swift's era's tour.

And a lot of people all week, if you follow People magazine on Instagram, God help you. The only thing they've posted about all week is Jan Rovnik's getting some shit from some other former Dancing with the Stars pros named Max and Petta. But isn't it like his brother? I don't think so. I think that that might be Russian discrimination. I don't know. No, no.

I thought I just saw the headline. I didn't look at last day. I didn't look at pictures. I wasn't looking at pictures. I thought that I saw that. Maybe. Maybe you're here. Here's the thing.

I want to talk about the Dancing with the Stars drama. But the problem is people who are in Dancing with Stars drama, know everything. And I, me and Jack, you're out of our element here, okay? The pros in question are Maxim Cherim Kovsky and Peta Murgatroyd. No way. I'm saying those names, right? I apologize to the Eastern European contingent.

I mean, I feel like Murgatroyd, right? We know that one, right? Do we? I don't know. They are talking shit and they're talking shit about Jan Ravnik. And they're saying that he has absolutely no business as a pro because he's not a ballroom dancer. Exum said there's, quote, there's zero foundation technique, quality, understanding of the partnership.

It is absurd. This is unreal. Because he's brand new because yawn is brand new. Fresh off the air is to her. It is absurd. This is unreal how blind we have to be. And God forbid say what's obviously there. And then Pita said that his connection to Taylor Swift is the quote unquote obvious reason why he landed

the gig. She said he's obviously a great dancer, but hiring a non-ballroom dancer to teach ballroom dancing to a celebrity as a job is outrageous. And again, here's the thing. You guys out there who are DWTS heads, you're over here screaming in your cars because you know, you know Max and you know Peta. And you know who's fucking who and whose brother is who because they're all brother. I was trying to explain this to Gideon. I was like, they're all either brothers and sisters or they're fucking each other. And he was like, what? But it's like all these pros, there's a whole world. No in between on dancing with the stars. You are related in some way. And so all these pros.

And if you talk, like I was messaging with an old co-worker today and she starts going off about Max. Max should keep his mouth shut about Yon. There, there I will. I'm even scared to bring it up, MJ, because the discourse is so heated about this. It is so heated. And it was so heated that Derek, who is a brother of somebody else, Julianne. Julian! Julian!

He on the Halloween night show was like, everyone's talking shit about Yon. But everyone needs to shut up. Jan, you're doing great. But are they doing that great? Because, spoiler alert, Jan and Jen were then kicked off the show. I am wondering, is it every year for the you dance heads out there, is it every year that they do make mention of the drama outside of the show? I need to know this too.

I am so curious because I think it's because I'm thinking specific. of Love Island when they showed that, that, you know, the still image that was like, hey, remember everybody on Love Island are real people. So if you guys could like, please stop with the like telling them to die and all that, that would be great. Thanks. It's about love. Yes, yes, yes.

And I'm thinking about this that I'm like, or is it that it has gotten to such a fever pitch that they feel the need that they have to bring it up? And I didn't know if that's a new feeling or if that's something that has been happening. I would also like to know. And also, Jackie, you are right. There is another brother relationship involved. The brother in question is. Thank you.

I knew I wasn't being Russian racist. You were being Russian racist. Thank you. I'm sorry for suggesting you were being Russian racist. I, you know what? Here's a thing. All right, MJ. If you saw the way that I was pretending I was Ross Putin last week while I was

dressed up as the Fendier prime for Crescent. City over on LPN Deep Dives Romanticy, and I made a lot. So it's like, it would be fair if you thought that about me. The guy, Max, who talked all that shit about Jan, he is the brother of Val Tirmikovsky, who is, who's pro, Alex Earle's pro, I think. Uh-huh. The brother. The brother.

So they are brothers. The brother. Okay. I knew I saw the word brother somewhere. Industry of siblings over there. I'm shocked. I'm floored. But every time I learn a new relationship between the dancing with the stars pros, you could knock me over with a fucking feather.

I'm like, they used to fuck. They're currently fucking. They're married. Their brother and sister. They're brothers. It's nuts. It's like. No wonder there's such insane deep lore about everything.

Totally. Also, while watching it last night, Jeff comes downstairs because of course he is anywhere except where I am watching Dancing with the Stars. and he comes downstairs. And I looked at him and I was just like, I think for the first time in my life, I understand why people like sports. I think I get it. I think watching this show,

I'm so upset because I can never watch it on Tuesday nights. I never have the time to watch it live. And I'm upset that I can't vote, MJ. It only took me what? Seven weeks. And now I went from being like, I mean, I would never vote. And now I'm watching just being like,

I would have voted for you, Jen. I would have voted for you. And I should have voted for you. I should have been here for you. I should have been voting for Jen. You're right. I'm sorry, Jen. Because you know what?

Last week we called for her to have a breakthrough. And I think that she did fucking great. It is though. Okay, as someone, again, only took a couple of weeks for us to become absolute critiques of dancing. And this is, I'm learning. This is what all dancing with the stars fans do.

Again, my old coworker is like going off. As far as I know she is not a professional dancer, but she's like, could keep his mouth shut. And I'm like, okay, all right, let's do it. Yeah, throw it out. Yeah. It is, though, crazy in comparison to, like, what Alex Earle and what Whitney are just

able to do. It is also, you have to think. And maybe I'm just looking at this as a shorter, curfier woman, that she can't properly, like, extend as like gracefully in the way in which because like Alex Earl and Whitney are I feel like more shaped the way a dancer is shaped and it it lends itself to the extension and yeah right and I I that bitchy judge Carrie Ann was like happy it liked a Topanga and Jen she was just like your guys just so too little tiny you got to take a mall but small but I understood exactly what she was saying to both of them like it is about, but it is all in confidence. I think if both of them had had more confidence, they would have stuck the fuck out of it. It's just that you can tell both of them were hesitant because they were stretching, because they were trying new things.

It is, it is, oh my God, it is confidence. It's like I, and it's, it is, it's Jen. I just Jen in a nutshell. It is, it is, it is, it devastates me. All the girls were there. I know. and I'm like, no, don't send Jen home when all the bitches are there. I'm going to say it, fine.

Last week, I was like, guys, don't. And now this week, Andy Richter, heart of the show. Got to go. I'm sorry, Andy Richter. You've got to go. He's got to leave. He's not good enough. Guys, I needed to know that I was explaining to Gideon how Jackie always calls Andy

Richter the heart of the show on the show. And as I'm explaining it, Kiry had an aba the judge goes, Andy, you're the heart of the show. Hard the show. And you are the heart. If I was drinking when I watched it, it would be a drinking. If I was drinking, I would have tanked my drink every time they say heart of the show because I do feel like they kind of slip it into every episode.

I think they, I think that they legit do. And it is now we are in this like Andy Richter trap where people love him so much. But he's getting seven. He's getting sixes and sevens. He's trying. He's doing it. He is. He is.

But now with the face and the priest thing. Like I thought that he really. brought it. I thought that he was really doing his best. Heart of the show. But heart of the show. He is now at this point. He is, there are multiple very good dancers that have gone home while Andy is still there. And everyone's like, but it's his birthday. He can't leave. This bitch was standing there. And if I hadn't, like, I feel like everyone should have known. But obviously they are shooting this episode for Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. because of course Whitney was being extra like, it's so hard for me,

it's hard for me. But don't get me wrong, MJ. Her having to be a mother and shooting Secret Lives with Mormon Wives and having to learn that fucking dance in less than a week, I mean. And Jen, Jen's kids are three, two, and baby. And barely existing. Yeah, Jen's kids are three, two, and newborn.

Yeah. And I do feel like that it's like, I can't imagine trying to upkeep all of that. Yeah. And especially like at least Whitney seems like she has a better, more present husband. Yes. Her husband got caught. Fucking Jen Affleck does.

And he got straight, you know. And he's been whipped. And I don't mean straight. And he has been whipped. And he has been whipped. And he has been whipped. No, no, he's definitely not straight. No, no, he's 100% definitely not straight.

But that's okay as long as he can make his peace with it. Yes, but a good husband who will not despise you. I do think that Whitney's husband seems to like like her. And I think that makes a big difference. Well, I don't know. Again, I'm not saying sexually. I think that he wants her to succeed. Oh, okay.

Like her as a person. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he does. And we know that Jen Affleck's shitty, shit-eating husband, Zach, does not like her as a person and does not want her to succeed. And I need him to be eliminated as a husband. Okay.

How about that? How about we bring back, Jen? And we say, you know what? We got the elimination wrong last week. It was Zach Affleck who needs to be eliminated, not from the earth, guys, just from her marriage. And then she can have another chance because, yes, and I do, I feel bad for Andy at this point because I think that he, he did say this week that he doesn't have survivors guilt. I'm not sure if that's the phrase we should have used, but we used it. You know, it's live. There's only so much you can ask. And he's like, no, I don't feel guilty at all. But again, at this point, buddy, I'm not saying Hilaria should still be there.

But at this point, although the pentatonic guy and Jen both better dancers objectively than Andy, but there's a conspiracy theory. Did a listener send this in? There's a conspiracy theory that Pentatonics had to go on tour. So, so, and the Mormon wives must have to go. I mean, new seasons coming out soon. They just dropped a trailer. So I'm like, how is it rigged is the question? And how is it rigged?

Is it rigged to benefit Pentatonics as tour? or is it rigged to benefit the Mormon wives premiere? I'm just asking questions. I'm sure they have a team of people that are making sure that they're making the most amount of money that they can make. And I think that that's what matters most. And thank God those people exist, you know? Don't you, do you think that with any of that money, they could like talk to Alfonso Ribeiro about like, is he okay? Does he want to keep doing this job?

Can we discuss Alfonso Ribeiro for a moment? I really need to talk about it. Was he on? Like, I feel like he was like, he had a crazy look in his eye. I felt like I texted this to MJ. He looked like he was foaming at the mouth. There was something about, I think the fact, and this is my, maybe my own conspiracy theory, is it because did you notice that he kept dropping that they are,

I mean, they're pumping it up for next week because Julianne and Alfonso are joining the dance team to also dance next week? Oh, fun. I do want to see him dance. he had shoved this information into like random interstitials and he was saying it in such like a maniacal way and he was like, but don't worry, we have been practicing. We've been practicing for weeks. And it's like, bro, Alfonso, are you okay?

I just want to know if he wants this job because I know he has been like a... And he has to take it. He has to have the job. I know he's like a great dancer. I think he's a, you know, is a champion. He's been the host. But him and Julianna, oh. Or is it Ribeiro, I'm sorry.

If I'm saying his last name wrong? I think we're both saying it, how they say it on the show, Ribeiro. Okay. Rubiro? He, they just both, it is maybe because it's live TV. And it is one of the things I love about it. I'm not complaining. But it is a profoundly awkward show.

And the two hosts are very awkward. I love it. Again, I'm not complaining. Julian has almost no, like, I mean, dancer. I know that she's a very talented dancer. It's just, you're right. I think they, did you describe it that it's like, Every time the camera's on her, she looks like she's surprised to be there.

It's like they have no one. Neither of them has any idea what they're going to say next. And I'm like, you guys are hosts. Get it together. You've been hosts for years, I think. Get it together. Why are you so, so surprised by your job as host? And it is, I love it because you don't see everything is, is edited and polished, you know,

except not this. It's just very awkward. And I'm, I, it's one of the best parts. I love it. It makes me so sad that I can't watch it live. Yeah. It makes me so sad. I need to just carve out.

It's like I forget every week. I know. I don't know how I'm surprised by it. I'm being Julian in my own life. That I'm surprised every time there's another show. Oh my God. Oh, there's another episode of Dancing with the Stars. That's what happens every week.

But can we bring up, oh, my God, Elaine's injury. It's the week of the injury. Also, question for you, dance heads out there. are there always this many injuries at some point? Two injuries. Two injuries. DeLan Fron got head butted by his partner. While also being robbed at the same time, MJ. That is not fair.

Not fair. He got a bunch of age and he deserved better. That bitch broke his nose days ago. So recently that he doesn't even have the black eyes yet. That's how you know it's recent. Because when you break your nose, you get two black eyes to accompany it, or at least that's what's happened to me every time. Yes. He didn't even have the black eyes yet.

Yes. It was that recent. Or less maybe they really covered it up. But even then, that's very, or maybe, yeah, maybe they're doing this. Have you ever had any, I don't know why you would have, but I've had to get my tattoos removed for shoots and stuff like that before. And they use this spray gun now to spray you down, like what they do. I guess some people get it for like their weddings and stuff. It's like spray makeup.

And it's unbelievable. It does not move. You cannot see anything underneath it. It's also very possible that they did that. Okay, well, I just, I've gotten my nose broken several times as a kid. And you look at, like, I feel like you look, I'm not just used specifically. I, when I got my nose, also, you look at it when you break your nose. Yes, and it's, and it hurts for a long time afterwards.

And so the fact that he had to do a dance with this woman, the dance, with a blindfold on, flinging her head at him. Flinging her head. And then the legs go up over, and I'm just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And also. Very scary. Jay, did you, it's understandable, I guess, if he didn't. But bro, did you finally feel it for Dylan Ephron this week in that dance?

Or does Halloween not do it for you? I felt it for him. I feel it for him when he talks. I did not like, let's go there. A global critique. Let's go there. Let's go there. I did not like, I liked Halloween as the aesthetic.

I liked the costumes, whatever. It was not my favorite theme night. I realized that I like a, I'm going to, I liked Wicked. good night like you know whatever but so it's where we differ mj it's where we loved you loved Halloween night you loved the theme loved it I hated the contacts the demon context because I feel like part of the of the interesting thing about both the dances and like watching the judge feedback is seeing their facial expressions and I missed the eyes took it away I thought that they all wore demon eyes every last one of them was wearing demon

But they're so cool. They are cool. They are cool. They are cool. And if I had them in my house right now, I would wear them. You'd probably have them on right now. I would. And I'd be like, no, MJ, no.

Demon MJ, I hate demon MJ as a ghost. No, don't get inside of my mouth. Well, I'm glad that you liked Halloween, the Halloween theme. Yes, I loved it because I thought it's sexy. I liked every song that they were sexy. Rob Irwin. It got covered in blood, honestly receiving feedback.

Can we also, oh my God, Robert Irwin was, and I felt bad because Alex Earle definitely was top of the pop, but he was so excited to be top of the pop this week.

And he really tried and he put himself out there and that dance was so sexy and he was so dialed in, but then to see him getting his critiques, covered in blood, and he has that big,

doofy grin on his face. And he was just talking. talking about how he's like, this is the most opposite of him to be. You know, it's like, you're right. This is the most opposite of you. You've ever been and you did such a great job. I was trying to explain to Gideon last night. I was like, I... They'll never understand MJ. You can explain to the cows come home. They're never going to understand us. I know. They're never going to understand us. But I was just like, I was like, you know, in a in a time when we're all so worried about young men and how young men are growing up, it's just, you just look at Robert Irwin and

I'm just, and I'm like, I promise you I have no sexual feelings for him, Gideon. I'm just like, I just think he's a lovely young man. What a lovely young man. What a great young man. If I had a son, I would hope that he grows up to be just like, and I, and I'm going to say it again, he is the Zoran Mamdani of conservation messaging. Every time he opens his mouth, he's like, I'll just want to protect the earth. Yay, yeah, and the animals. We love that.

We love that. He's perfect. You're our little king, and we love you for it. And I just love how much he loves his family. He loves his family. He is. Although, part of me. All right, I'm watching this. I'm watching his critique afterwards.

Why is he single? I know he's 21, right? So he can play the field and he can do whatever the hell he wants. But it's like, what kind of demons does he have in there? No, there's not a single. What is he hiding behind that doofy smile? Absolutely zero. This is because he wasn't raised here, so we don't have to worry about what kind of demons he has inside of him?

Did you see there was fake news that he wouldn't. that he wouldn't wear an LGBTQ pin at some event. And Gideon was like, I saw that he doesn't support LGBTQ people. And I was like, I don't even need to look into that because I can tell you right now it's not true. Bullshay. Just look at him and you just know the man doesn't have an ounce of hatred in his body. And then, of course, Gideon looked it up and he was like, oh, it was fake. It was not real.

Thank you for trying to spread lies and disinformation, Gideon. Fact check yourself next time before you bring that to the table, Gideon. How dare. It's because they don't want us to love. love. They don't want us to feel. They don't want us to look at that 21-year-old boy and fight on the inside and be like, I don't want to kiss him. I don't want to kiss him. He's a child. I truly don't. To me, I want to give him a little glass of milk and a cookie and send him on his way. Oh, even with the with the guy liner. Come on, MJ, you love guy liner. I could not possibly,

I could not. He is, he is as as a sexual a being to me as they come. Like, I wish him. well, you know. Although it was very cute. I saw, I had seen this like a random interaction like on Insta or something that it was Robert Irwin reacts to incredible Jonathan Bailey sending him flowers because he danced to dancing through life last week. And like, you know, Jonathan Bailey sent him a bunch of flowers. And the way he exploded with happiness of like, oh my God, he watched my dance.

Hey, look my dance. I couldn't possibly do it properly, but I love the amount of fake blood. Also, MJ, you know I'm such a bitch for fake blood. The morgue fake blood that is involved, I'm here for it. In fact, I love that the Robert Irwin bit, I know that he was dragged off and like ripped apart by zombies at the end of his dance, but you didn't even see all of the blood application really.

Yeah, he just like he just kind of showed up in the critique. Covered in blood. Covering blood. Yes. Oh, that's what I wanted to talk about. Oh, my God. M.J. the fact that we both brought up to each other.

Topanga's dance, great. She's really trying. Why? So in every one of these, so for those of you that don't watch, it's Halloween, so every single one of the dances is very like, you know, murder, and there's like a kind of a plot line. And for Topanga's, she chose for her male professional dancing partner to be the murderer in the dance situation.

So it just looked like a scene of domestic abuse. She was a bride and he was a groom and they'd get married. But then it turns out she's dead and he would, and killed by him. And I was like, that's not, that's not fun. Wait a second. That's just, that's domestic violence. That's not a horror.

No. We're just talking about a spousal murderer. So yeah, that did not hit for me. No, I really, it was just like, you kill him. You know you got to kill him. We all know that you got to kill him. Let's not have just a, yeah, just a husband murdering a wife. Too real to Panga.

No, I'll just put on sleeping with the enemy if I want to watch that. But, you know, it's like I wasn't looking for that kind of experience this evening. Yes, but she did, a lot of people saying that was her best dance. That was fine. She did a fabulous job. It's just, I really was taken out of it because why would you choose to have him murder you? Yes. And this Halloween, let's remember that, um,

if you're going to do a spousal murder, have the woman kill the man. Come on, please, if it's heterosexual, and if not, I mean, y'all can just kill each other, you can do whatever you want, you know? Totally. Because, yeah, wow, it sounds like I'm being a Robert Irwin

over here, and I'm like, oh, just, oh, go ahead, lop, lop, lop all their heads off. But I guess we are finished with Dancing with the Stars, right? Yeah, we can move on. That's fine. I'm glad that we gave it the time. Andy Rector's got to go. Andy Rector, you got to go.

He's got to go. And I think that, oh, also, Jordan Child's dance, which was like an athletic contemporary. I thought it was cool. Wow. I thought it was real cool. I like contemporary. But as the other dancers, would you look at that and be like, but she's a fucking Olympian. That was when Gideon just kept saying he was like, that's his like, gymnast dance.

I don't know. You're right. That's what part of me was like, could you imagine the other ones? I'm like, I am like learning ballroom over here. Yeah. And you're doing your regular fucking. Inflicts? You do a great job. This is not dance. This is gymnastics. No, it's athletic contemporary. That's what they called it, Gideon. It was, I, I'm a sucker for a contemporary

dance, apparently. It does make me feel a little embarrassed because I think it is a form of dance that people like to laugh at. But give me one of those big fucking leaps across the stage. Yes, please. I love it. And also, I'm really learning Argentine tango. You like the Argentine tango. I like the Argentine tango. I like to watch them. Just slide across the table. I love Dancing with the Stars. Me too. And I don't know. It's like, do we go back and start watching old dancing with the Stars?

I don't know. I don't know if this is our future. We'll have no purpose. Well, by the time Dancing with the Stars is done, I think we'll have a new season of secret lives. Secret Lives. We'll have more Secret Lives because we've skipped right past Love is Blind. I started watching it. I got into the second episode, third episode,

and I was just like, I don't know if I can do this journey again, but I did start watching Married at First Sight Season 19. I did see that that's... Well, that's kind of random, but it's because they started putting it out on peacock. Oh, that's why. And it's now a peacock show.

Because I'm getting ads for it. I was like, what is it back? So it's like almost like a reboot, but this time, which is what I have also asked for. Now, while they canceled the queer ultimatum, and I do think that that was a misconduct. mistake. I think that your ultimatum

as one of the greatest reality shows. It was a mistake. I don't know why they canceled it. I think it's a huge mistake. But on Married for Sites, season 19, they're starting to include Olds. Oh. Oh. And I love to watch olds falling in love. And one of the couples is like one of those like where she is

in her 60s and she is full life and ready to fuck. Okay. and wants to have a great time, and he's down too, and watching the two of them together. And there was at one point where she was like, it was like on their honeymoon in the beginning. And she went to him and she was like, I feel like you're talking about yourself a lot and you're not asking any questions. And I just like to bring that to your attention. And he at first was like, oh, okay. No, that makes sense.

And I apologize for doing that. And then he started asking her question. And then literally, that was it. That's it. It was like, that's, watching them communicate. like, that's what you both learned from your life of experience of all I've got this issue. I'm sure to bring it up and see how they take it. We're going to talk through it.

Great. Now it's done. Thank you. Love is blind. Can never. Love is blind could never. No, that's fine. I'm all for bringing in the old.

I just, um, I like, to briefly go back to dancing with the stars, I find it very depressing how they talk about old people, specifically Elaine Hendricks. They're just like, she's, she's dragged herself up. out of the grave to dance one more time. Oh my God. Who is not dead? Yeah. That is that exactly what it was, Jackie. When Alfonso Ribero was like, she'll be back next week if she survives the voting.

She's good. She's not dead. Because for those that don't watch, Elaine is in the hospital because she, God, it was horrible. She had, I don't know, a muscle under a rib or something. Like, she literally was in the middle of dancing and just was like, ah! And just really hurt herself. And don't worry.

They've been cleared. What kind of doctors are they finding to clear these celebrities to continue on with dancing with the stars? I know. Elaine, she's bleeding at the bottom of her titanium fucking foot. Didn't even know you could do that. She's got a hole in her steel foot. And then, yeah, she just like breaks a rib well dancing. And they're like, keep dancing.

Send her back. And then Andy Richter is still on the show. I know. But I just, and I just, Elaine is doing a great job. I'm not criticizing. She's doing a wonderful job. It's just that the way they talk about her is very depressing because they're like, this bitch is so old and we're just so happy.

She's still alive and still trying. And I can't believe we didn't have to puke ourselves to death because she was on the show this evening. Don't worry. She's not here. And everyone. Oh, thank God. So brave of you to be so old in public. And so hot.

And just so, yeah. That's all the feedback. They can't handle it. I'm so inspired by the fact that you're an old woman and yet you're not hiding, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like you should, you know, it's almost like they say it every time. So surprised that she gets out of

bed every day. Yeah, yeah. There is like, that's like, there was a while, um, where people kept telling me like how lucky after I came out, the people kept telling me how lucky I was to have a husband, um, who like didn't leave me. And I was like, I'm not sure this is the feedback you think it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. I think that says a lot more about you than it does about me. But that's, you know, that's, I guess, thank you for saying that. Thanks for thinking you needed to say that. And it's like, yeah, because I'm the same person. I am lucky.

So I guess I wanted to actually circle back to you talking about, now, it's ghosts that scare Gideon, but what if it's kind of zany? Zany ghost? What are we talking? Yes. I'm talking about how zoo, which is also called house. It is a 1977 movie that is a horror comedy that I, we had a friend of hours that had to put down their very beloved animal. And we went over and he was really sad. And I had made him a chicken pot pie.

And he was like, do you want to watch something scary? He's like, I can't handle anything that's too much. So we put on House because he had never seen it. And it is a very, very weird ghost movie about a bunch of young girls that are taken. into this aunt's remote mansion and the mansion is haunted but that is such a very plain way

of describing this movie it's silly it's like there's one of the girls that they just call her potato and they keep telling her how fat she is even though she's like not at all it is one of the again 1977 but it is very

silly it's all very like prop like it almost is like haunted mansion ask kind of movie. Fun. And I think that you guys might like it because it is not taken seriously at all. Okay.

Yeah. He just, Gideon just can't handle, um, really it's demons. Demons. It's demons. Okay.

Demons he can't handle. This is fine. This is, you know? I think this will be fine. I think this will be fine. Very cartoon, any horror that,

like any gore is cartoonish. I, I suggest that I, I really want to watch I know what you did last summer. to get ready for new, I know what you did last summer. Do you really need to spend the time to do both of those things? Well, I would know.

I won't because my husband refused. I don't know why. It's for the best, I'm like, why don't you want to watch hot, hot Sarah Michelle Geller? We rewatched it not that long ago. And I'm going to say, didn't hold up. Watch cruel intentions. You want to watch hot Sarah, Michelle Geller, watch cruel intentions. Cruel intentions is better than I know what you did last summer.

Yes. Oh, really? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I fell asleep in trying to rewatch. I don't really... I was supposed to say I don't really play video games. Jasmine, I would never fall asleep while I'm watching you.

You're an amazing friend and a wonderful member of our cat. Yeah, I definitely fell asleep and woke back up and was fine to go back to sleep. Like, I wanted to go back to sleep. Really? Yeah. They weren't... And also, you know what it is? I think the last time I had seen it, I don't... I keep watching it.

I was about to write it. I don't know what you did last summer. I know. I definitely know what you did last summer. The original version of it. Now, the last time I watched it, I was more their age. Well, I was only 10 when it came out.

Wow. I thought they were so hot that I didn't, like, I wasn't thinking about that. But now you watch it and their children. So you're not as brought into while, yeah, you can say that with cruel intentions as well, but it's such a fun, hot movie. Okay.

So this is, I feel like it, it, uh, I'm only saying this to you because I know you have a very small window of time in which you can enjoy media. And that's why I'm protecting you. Yeah. For those like, uh, like, like me out there, like if you're childless and you want to watch them both back to back, fucking have that. I'm just saying for people that have a small amount of time, it's not really. it's not really worth it. All right.

I'll trust you. Those two movies are very grouped in my mind for obvious reasons. I guess Sarah Michelle Geller being the most obvious common denominator. But yeah, it was like they came out when I was in middle school. I kind of like wasn't really allowed to see them at the time. Oh, especially cruel intentions. Yeah. But that was just like, ooh, they're like mysterious and sexy.

And I suggested both of them to my Jen X husband. And he was like, why would we watch those? But I will advocate for cruel attention. Did you yell, you're too old to understand. Nice of you to crawl out of the grave to sit with me and watch a movie. What do you want to watch Duke, Newcomb? What's wrong? Oh, is that all that exists?

Oh, the 80s stopped all ended in the 80s? Has stranger things come back yet or not yet? It is coming back in November because I have, I will say, Jackie Snacky's update, there are so many Stranger Things collaborations. It's insane. It comes to a point where like, we get it.

The show's coming out. I know it's like, this is like your big splurdy end, but I'm going to throw it out there. I thought the last one was your big splurdy end. I am someone that is not continuing to watch it. I ended in like season three. Yeah.

So last I remember was run it up that hill season, which I think was season four. Am I caught up? I don't remember. Yeah, maybe I didn't watch season for. What was running up that hill season? It's, yeah, I do feel like it is we are a bit saturated with stranger things. I'm excited for it to be done. I think I do want to watch it, though, but that does that mean I need to-

November 26th. Okay, all right. So maybe I need to make sure I'm caught up. But also, yeah, now we know David Harbour is a piece of shit. I don't want to watch it. I don't want to watch it. I'm high. Maybe I don't want to watch it. But also, MJ, if you do, and you come here and you let us know, you know, It's always helpful. I try to be like a bit of a completest.

Like if I start a book, I want to finish it, you know, and I kind of feel like that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you got to just cut, cut and run. I kill those darlings, baby. Who's got the time? Cut it out. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like with all of this discussion is interesting because David Harbour just not.

Oh, I meant to check in back in with someone in our chat was going on Jack and was going to a show. a show that David Harbour was supposed to be at and performing at, and they didn't know if he was actually going to show up or not. So I'm going to find out probably on Jackin. And I am curious to see if he is, is he hiding? Dwayne Reed Bagg. Is he pretending like this isn't happening? Like are we, yeah, you know, like what is, I am curious to see how he's going to navigate this or is he just going to like, I'm going to say it, like most.

dudes just kind of rip through it and be like, who gives you shit? They're going to keep hiring me. Yeah, yeah. It's probably what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, but he's definitely having a bad week. I'm glad he's having a bad week. Good.

He should have a bad fucking week. Also, the Lilly album. It's great. It's so fucking good. It is so, it's just, man, and he's got to be so, so annoyed that the album is so good. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess if you're, if you're, you know, if you're talking about, Like if your ex is talking about your Dwayne Reed bag of butt plugs, do you not listen? You know? I guess you probably don't. And you hope it's bad. Yeah, well, it is all the feedback we've gotten on the album so far is that it is people agreeing with Holden that it is fantastic. So, yeah, I think I'm going to listen to Lily Allen for the first time. Yeah, dude, come on over.

And I don't want to say too much because I did get to, oh, my God, I got to go to the movies this week. Yay. And I have a minute of the movies. It's so fucking long. and I went to go see Bologna, and it was fucking great. Is that the Alexander Scar's good one? No, it's Yorgie. It's a Yorgi, Borgy.

I love my Yorgos, Lundamos. And don't worry, Adam. Adam hasn't been able to see it yet. I'm not going to talk about it too much. I'm not going to say anything. But I will throw it out there. It was kind of great. Walking out of, so it's Emma Stone, it's Jesse Plemons.

Stavvy's in there for a bit, has got a little part, and he kills it. And then this person that I am not familiar with Aiden Delbus. And essentially, it's Aiden Delbus and Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons for an entire movie. And they, wow, Aiton, Aiton, Aitin. They're at the fucking buffet, dude. It was so great. And walking out, one of the people working in the theater came up to Jeff and I and were like, what do you think, top five, Emma Stone?

And I was like, definitely top five, Emma Stone. Really? Really? I wouldn't say number one, but I would definitely say top five Emma Stone. Wow. She, uh, I knew, I went into this movie knowing absolutely nothing. I would throw it out there that maybe you should as well. If you are into a, I will also remind everyone it is your ghost Lantamos and he is not for everybody. So.

And Ari Esther is a producer. It was also, also not for everybody. It is, it, it's great. It's very, um, very well written. Yeah. Very well done. All right. And it was one of those movies that it's two hours long.

And I was like, it's, oh, wow. Whoa. I was sucked into it. Even Alicia Silverstone is there. This movie has everything. Oh, yeah. And it is a, it's a dark comedy. Okay.

And it's based on another movie, which I did not know. And Jeff told me afterwards, but then it was great because Jeff had seen the original movie and then discussed how he felt. Uh-huh. So, and that is all I will say. and now I'm kind of curious to watch the original movie that it was based on. Did you like it more than poor things? Hmm.

Yes. Emma Stone really is like a Yorgos Lanthamos muse now, eh? Oh, yeah. I mean, it seems like they are making some fun shit together. And I did really like poor things. I mean, did you hear how long my moment of silence was? It was a lot. People were looking at their phones making sure that their headphones did go on.

Yeah, just being like, is she sick? Does she, I was sitting in fear of you, MJ. And while I will throw it out there, you know, sad lack of Willem Defoe and sad lack of Mark Ruffalo. But Bognia was awesome. And I can't wait to see it again. Wow. Okay. Yeah.

I'm definitely going to watch this one again. But also, I'm a Yorgie baby. Yeah. And I've seen, I've seen a lot of the Yorgies. I mean, killing of a sacred deer, I think is. is one is up there for me for one of my favorite movies because it's so,

I think it says a lot about me. I don't think it's for you though, MJ. I don't know enough about Yorgie to know whether I'm a Yorgie yet or not. I think certain kinds of Yorgie you'd be into. I think certain other kinds of Yorgie, I think like a dog tooth, maybe not for you. But I think you definitely could like live in the world

of like you'd love the favorite. You'd love the lobster. Okay. You'd love, I think you'd love kinds of kindness. Okay. All right, I'm going to write those down because I do have to do.

Some Yorgies are more intense than other Yorgies. I do, my goal this year continues to be to spend once the Halloween movie season dies down and then we're sad that, and then there's Christmas movies. Thanksgiving movie season is beginning.

Yes, thanks you for remembering. But we all, we talk about every year, there's not enough. There's not enough. And then this year it'll be Christmas. movies and I'll watch the Family Stone and I'll cry even harder because Diane Keaton's really dead. Oh my God. Oh no, MJ! I know. I know. Oh my God. I can't. Oh, no, I can't do it this year. No, you must. That's why

we must watch the Family Stone this year. Oh, no, I must. That's why we must. But then, and then I I want to spend January watching all of the, like, Oscar films. We're going to have a Yorkie January? Maybe a Yorkie January. Maybe that's how I guess. through my seasonal depression. Make it even more bleak. But what I really want to do is watch all the Oscar films in January so that by the time Oscar season happens, I have seen them. This has been my goal for several years now and I haven't gotten it done.

And I'm stretched more thin than ever, so I don't know if it's going to happen, but I am going to try. No, then you're definitely going to do it. I love add more to the play. Add more. I want to be stressed out when I'm sitting down to relax at the end of the night. But I will say I am excited because this weekend, Halloween weekend, K-pop Demon Hunters is getting another theatrical release for just one weekend only. And are we going again? Yes, we are going again. Oh, my God. So MJ, you and Gideon, right? It's just you and Gideon that are dressing. Oh, we are, as the Sajab boys. Yes. The kids are not dressing as Huntrix. We are going to be Sautjewy. I love this. I love it's just you and Gideon as K. Bob Demon Hunters. I love that you're sticking with it. I love that when you tried on the hat in front of you.

me not that long ago that you definitely look like a pilgrim. And I think it's so funny. I know. That you look like a pilgrim, but like a sexy pilgrim. It's sad because I really wanted to have B Sajaboy from the soda pop. From Soda Pop. And I instead have to be Sajaboy from your idol. And I can't wear that.

I'm working at a middle school on Halloween, which I'm so excited about. I haven't been working at a school on Halloween in a long time. And it's the best. It's the best best best. It's the only time of year that really makes me think that like, should I have kids? It's like, Jackie, you can't have kids just because you want to take kids that want to dress up trick or treating. Like, I want, and also, I go with my friends. I was going to say, go with their kids.

My brother and my sister-in-law always come with us trick-or-treating because it is. Kid Halloween is so fun. But I don't think I can wear the your idol costume to a middle school. And I wanted to be so. So I think I might just wear the baby. I'm baby Sadra, obviously. I was Baby Spice in middle school. Spice your baby Saja.

So I think I might just wear the baby Saja wig and then normal clothes because I don't have baby Saja clothes. It's very sad. I should have gotten it sooner. But all of the cave-up team and it's almost like you're in grad school and you have two children. I haven't even, I didn't even talk on the show about how I had to search the entire borough of Brooklyn for pumpkins because I forgot to get pumpkins on time, guys.

I thought about you yesterday as I walked into my, I thought about you as I parked my car and walked into the grocery store that was just filled with pumpkins. And I just thought about how you had to search so desperately. And then I started thinking about, I'm like, man, errands in New York are just so difficult to do. I had to search so desperately. And I had to go somewhere that was so far away that I got on my scooter and I went on my scooter. But then I couldn't get the pumpkins. You got a whole multiple pumpkins?

Couldn't get the two giant pumpkins home on the scooter. What was I thinking? And so then I had to take a car home with the scooter and the two pumpkins. And then all that was too. Oh my God. That was two days ago. And then all yesterday, I was like, I think I have like a tumor in my pelvis because my hips are so painful that suddenly painful. What is happening to me?

Why am I in so much pain? And then I realized it was because I had gone scooting in search of pumpkins. You scooted for pumps too long. Because, yes, errands in New York City. Or nightmare. When you don't have a car are a waking nightmare, especially when you're looking for two pumpkins. But also, if you have a car because then you have to try and find Perkins. So it's like that's, I don't want a car.

I don't want a car. I did have to scoot, scoot for pumpkins. And then I hurt myself just by exercising. Also, I do love this real quick Sherpa Cass update. I had texted Sherpa Cass because I had said right before we started recording, I was like, maybe Rob is too strong of a word, but I really think that they should have given Dylan F on a higher score. Bitch just broke his nose and he still did that sex-fueled Halloween waltz.

And she did say in the end, sorry, I know you're recording, but I know why Dylan didn't get full tens. He needs head back, butt in, shoulders back, chest forward, and toes more engaged. His form was bad. His form was bad. His butt was out. His nose is actively broken and he's scared of her hitting it. The fact that he was able to do the waltz at all is insane.

Take it up with Zach Ephron. Who's not there. Not there. He's not supporting his brother. No, he is. That was a whole other news cycle. No, it's another. Man, it's all over the news. It's all over the news, guys.

But it is every year, though, MJ. Every year, we have avoided Dancing with the Stars for this long. I don't even know how we did it. I know. I know. It's really, it's like, once you see it, you're like, oh, this has been everywhere, and I've been missing it. Yep, we've been missing it, and we've been keeping happiness away from ourselves, and that's sad. And we're not really missing out on other celebrity gossip guys.

Every fucking other news story is about Sidney-Sweeney or Kim Kardashian. And we here at page 7 have decided that, we are not trying to do that. So instead we talk about the various effron's. Yeah. You know, well, we throw a Kardashian in there every once in a while. We do. You know, they say stupid things.

Yeah. We like to make sure they're, you know, represented every once. And right now they're on the new circuit because the new season of keeping up with the Kardashians. So we're going to keep hearing more from them. But you're also going to keep hearing more from us, but not today. Not anymore. Unless you go over to our Patreon. And if you need more of us, there's a lot more of us to go get.

So you can definitely go get that or run the Patreon. Patreon.com slash page seven podcast. Thank you guys so much for joining us on this day. And we did talk a lot of TV. But honestly, you know, I think it's good to go back to. I miss a talking TV. Yeah, back to our TV roots. Because it's, again, this is a Halloween.

We're, you know, we're not getting 31 for 31 in this month. But we are getting our horrors in. And not just the blind. finding ones from reality. But I did watch the frighteners last night. And I haven't seen the frighteners since I was a kid, which is a Peter Jackson, like Zemeckis, Danny Elfman does the music. It is like a dark comedy from the early 90s or mid-90s with Michael J. Fox, like his last starring movie role, I believe. And Jeff had never seen it before. And it's just, it's another, it's a fun, dark comedy.

that I really didn't get when I was a kid. And I thought that I was, I thought I was scared of it, but I also didn't like it. And then I realized now, I was like, oh, you just didn't get it. And that was okay. It was too young. And this is, you know, I feel like for me, even though a lot of the movies you talk about, I know I'm not going to watch, I do feel like it gives me a little bit of like cultural literacy when I hear other people talk.

Like, so, for example, when I hear all the middle schoolers talking about how they love terrifier, I'm like, I don't know if you should be watching that. And then I feel like I'm in the know. You're right, because Art the Clown is not for children, but I will say the theatrical way in which, I mean, MJ, if you liked Gore and you liked slasher films, you would love Terrifier because he's, he is also like a trained clown. Yeah, you know, I love a Comedia del Arte. That's why I think you would act because the way that he is so animated in between the ridiculous kills, like I thought that I was. was going to hate Terrifier until I sat and watched all three of them. And I was just like, I love this. So if you had watched it, you would get why they are talking about it. Okay.

All right. Well, I love that. And also, you know, this is what middle school is for. Again, I didn't get to watch. I know what you did last summer in middle school. They're watching Terrifier. But anyway, that is our Halloween second helpings for you guys. I hope you have a great time trick-or-treating or Halloween partying or whatever you guys do when we come. into. When we, you know, Mariah Carey's going to unfrost herself tonight and unthaw herself tonight. And when we come back, it will be full on skip over turkey season. Oh my God, I can't even believe up. I made my first turkey last night. I can't believe I didn't bring it up until the end of the episode. When we didn't even talk more in depth about your special moment at choir, we'll have more

to talk about next week. We certainly will. Jackie's going to be talking about, we're going to be talking turkey. TV. We're going to talk turkey. Talk turkey. Oh yeah, baby. And it's going to be great. You can email us page seven podcast at gmail.com. We're We love hearing from you over at the Patreon. You got something every day. You got your Monday Jackie's book club. You got your Tuesday, Buffy. You got your Wednesday celebrities.

And then you got your shows Thursday and Friday. And speaking of our shows, we'll be back next week with page seven. And we love you guys so much. And Jackie, I love you so much. Happy Halloween, MJ. I love you. Happy Halloween, MJ. And happy Halloween, everybody.

I hope it's safe. I hope you have fun. And I hope you eat so much candy that you start talking like Alfon so rebiano and working at the to don't worry about Julianne and I guess we're going to get out of there soon

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