Page 7 - High School Musical 2 WATCHALONG

Episode Date: November 3, 2022

Holden, Jackie, and MJ head BACK to East High School to enter the HSMU this week with a very special watchalong of the 2007 classic(?) High School Musical 2 WHICH IS NOT AT A CAMP. Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser are going on TOUR! Dates and links to tickets at lastpodcastnetwork.com Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

High School, musical. What do they do? They bounce basketballs. I forgot what they did. I have no idea. I don't remember anything. Not one single thing. Do I remember?

Everybody has things they're into. Things are different that they're into. I remember that number where it was like people are okay to be into, if you're a jock and you like baking, that's fine. I remember that from the first one. I also remember when you promised to M.J. that we weren't going to watch the next high school musical. That's my biggest memory, actually, as we said.

Yet here we are. And yet also so many people so hype when I mentioned, even on my own very stream earlier tonight, thank God people said, I give the blood of Christ because you guys are doing yet another high school musical watch along. I try. Can I just,

I just want everyone at home to know I tried to get us to watch a different movie. I pitched multiple movies. But this is the movie that, the team and meaning Holden because the squeakiest wheel gets all the cheese. The problem was it was Sophie's choice, I believe you suggested. And then it was, what was the other one? It was it was ordinary people. I lived to cry.

I just wanted to be sad. We can't. These are all. For real, do it ordinary people watch a long. That's such a good idea. We should make any time. All I ever think about is the time when Edward Larson, when we were living together, he went to a concert and he came home and he was trying to smash some human lady.

And I was watching ordinary people alone in the apartment. And he comes in and he's like, hey. And I was like, I'm Jackie. And she was like, oh, my God, what's happening in here? And I did. She left. And then Ed smoked me with me on the couch. That's my ordinary people.

So who's ready for high school musical to? Who's ready for it? High School Musical too. I guess I'm here. I'm wondering what musical amount percentage of the movie will be an actual musical. It will actually be a musical. Zero percent. I think it's going to be zero.

But also, Holden, didn't you say that this was in a summer camp because I saw on our Patreon that someone said, it's crazy that they think it's at a summer camp. Yeah, I thought it was a summer camp movie. Holden is our shepherd and he doesn't even know. He's just like on a trip on the track. He's like, there's like, yeah. We'll watch high school musical too, and then we'll watch the third one, and then we'll watch the show, and then we'll just...

They're in a pool. There's a pool scenario. Do you think you're only ever in a pool at summer camp, or do you think there's any other possibility? I just assumed they were going to camp. Like maybe a teen party in California? Do you think that's... Well, I guess we'll find out. Let's get into it because it's actually longer than I thought it was.

It clocks in almost two hours. Holy God. Oh, my sweet Jesus. No, it's not. That is unacceptable. Oh, I'm so upset. Oh, my God. All right, here we go.

It's so late for MJ, too. I want everyone to know it's really late for MJ. It is 9.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. So if you don't hear my voice at the end, it's literally because I fell asleep. Three. You were just so inspired. That too. Two.

Oh, you have to do a countdown. One. Play. Play. All right. we see a clock. Immediately we see a clock. It's 305.

That means schools letting out. School's letting out for the fucking summer, bro. I thought, I thought it was, I just assumed it was summer camp. Oh, man, coming in with a good hit's already. This is serious orthodontist office.

Lounge music. It sounds like a very special episode. It does sound like a very special episode. Why is it feel so antiquated when it was just made only about a decade ago. Lucas Grubile. I'm sorry, Grebeel is a very... Corbin blue, what is he, cordon blue?

Yeah! Yeah, we're here to make fun of people's names. They don't even have any control over that. Learning is never seasonal, and she is so correct. The, like, self-aware high school theater teacher thing, I go back and forth between loving it and hating it. as a self-aware elementary school theater teacher.

I don't think you wore this many danglies hanging off of you. No, I think I would age into this. But I also, I guess what I don't like about it is that it feels like, the writers of this movie were like, let's make a real funny theater lady. You know what I mean?

And she is hilarious. Oh my God, they want to get out of here so bad. The clock is getting bigger. That's why I thought it was a summer. So it's a summer movie, not a summer camp movie. Oh, shoot me. It's the same thing, right?

I mean, they're not going to camp. But yeah, they're not going to camp, but summer, summer, summer, summer. This is a summer movie. It sounds like they're all going to come or is what it sounds like, right? I'm sorry, a different kind of eruption. Ew, kissing the teacher without consent. party time.

I will say how excited were you every year when this was the vibe, right? When summer happened. Summer happened. It was somebody too. I don't know, man. I had this vibe every year, papers thrown around everything. And then it was just me alone for months, like watching TV and being sad. Like there was no, it was always like, summer's happening.

And it would be excited. And then I would just be like, just this sad, lonely. man for three months. But I convinced myself I loved it. I feel like I always had plans over the summer and not always plans that I wanted to do. Right.

I was one of those kind of kids. I was always busy doing something. And so it's like I either had honesty of the mind or I had volunteer work. I can't believe you brought up Odyssey of the Mind. So many people have been hitting me up is I brought it up on a Wisn the Bruiser episode. And people, but so you also did Odyssey of the Mind.

Oh, we've talked about this, Holden. I did the fuck out of Odyssey of the Mind. So good. You know I was so good. Dude. M.J., you would have fucking loved Odyssey. It was a combination of performance and, like, problem solving and, like, puzzles. And, like, improv comedy.

Yeah. And you work in teams together to, like, problem solved, but also be funny. And it is, it was by everything. But then you started it over the summer. So, like, I would hang out with my OM friends, and we would, like, practice for competition once a week during the summer. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

Also, I wanted to bang one of the guys on my OM team. Yeah. Yeah, you got to have that. You got to have your OM crush. Oh, my God. He was so good at making the props for all of our little theater things for OM. More basketball dancing. All right.

Well, of course. Yeah, it's a staple now. I think we should learn this dance. Yes, I agree. Why don't we learn this dance and do it at the live show? We'll do it at the live show. Can I just say, like, I was thinking, so this is the week that I'm getting married.

And I was like, so maybe we could watch like a wedding movie or something like that. And I'm watching high school musical. Maybe it's because I'm going to really feel as I want, while you're listening to this, know that I'm in my hometown right now. And I'll be thinking about all of my Thespian years. Yeah. I think that this really brings. us to the root of who Jackie is.

And that's what you want on your wedding week. Do I want to think about it? I am going to say this is bringing me in a lot harder, a lot faster than the first movie. I am in. The same opening number is it the first movie. I am in. I can't believe how much you love a high school music.

I know. Hold on it is the biggest. He is the least skeptical. Oh, God forbid we have fun. for five minutes of our life. God forbid we just enjoy a dance about with very specific arm-failing, leg-flailing motions. Yeah, they did it.

They're there. Uh-oh, the seal! I think what's shocking about high school musical, too, is how much it feels like it is of a different time, even though it's only a decade ago. Also, I feel like I agree. Also, I feel like the seal move was a foreshadowing of his jaw incident.

Uh-huh. A slide. All I can think about is every time I see him now, I see a man whose jaw is hanging off of his face. Same. Yeah, I'll never think of him the same way. So mostly the same cast as well, by the way. So far it's indistinguishable from the first movie. Yeah.

Everyone looks the same. No one's older. They're wearing the same outfits. It's the same school. They're singing the same type of song. Did I realize the name is Charpe, like the dog? Did we know this last time? Probably.

By the way, MJ, can you describe some of these outfits, like the last two outfits we just saw? All right. So we've got like a tight, sexy rugby shirt with like a deep V and like a three quarter length rugby. We've also got like a like a like a, like a, okay, a long. Yeah, what is that? The lacey see through. Short sleeved hoodies, long plaid Bermuda shorts, but like dressy Bermuda shorts. Please thank you. I thank you, MJ.

A lot of, um, button up shirts on girls that go, like, low-cut button-up shirts that go down below a tank top that is worn underneath the shirt. Oh, yeah, the layered look. Now he's giving her a necklace that says tea on it. Oh, my God, it's tea for titty. It's your titty necklace goes there. Oh, it's as in Troy. It's tea for totally in love.

Oh, I'm sorry, it's tea for Troy. I thought it was titties. Oh, I like this kid looks like an actual high school. I hate him. Punch him. How were you guys? I mean, I think you guys know the answer of how many people wanted to sign my yearbook,

but I also wasn't the one that forced people. It was such another weird social thing where you had to. The only thing I remember about signing my yearbook is my friend Cynthia who would come over and we'd smoke cigarettes together, talked about all the cigarettes we smoked and put under our porch and wrote about it in our yearbook

and then my grandmother took my yearbook and read it And then my mom found out about it because of that. So I got busted for cigarette smoking. You can't write about cigarettes in the yearbook. Yeah, I was like senior, junior, senior year. I know, right? It was like, come on, Cynthia. Don't write it down if you don't want it to be set in a court of law or read by your parents.

Dude, a mountain of cigarette butts. This is a weird thing about being a kid, too, is when you think just like putting them away from your sight makes them invisible. But it's like, no, there was like a mountain of cigarette butts. butts under our back porch because I just decided that's the way we could put out cigarettes. So like literally just if you went, even now, I feel like, maybe they excavated it when they redid the back porch. You know, I taught. But even now there might be a stack of high school or cigarette butts.

I taught early elementary and middle school and I noticed that developmentally they're the same. So you're basically, yeah, it's a high schooler hiding the cigarettes. You are like a three-year-old who's like, when I put it out of sight, you can't see it anymore. I mean, I want to throw up saying this out loud, but it was the same with like, maybe boogers behind my bedpost. I'm going to throw it out there. I thought you were going to say condoms. I was like, where did you put the condoms? No, but I managed to put my cum. I never, I did, I will say that. I was tissues, guys.

Why would you put it into a sock that's constantly in reuse? That's so nasty. It gets so crusted. Yeah, it's so great. You have tissue paper. You have. You have. Kleenex or tepee. Like, why would you reuse the same sock? It's so nasty. I was under the impression

that you put the sock in the wash afterwards. And then you get a new sock. You do, but then also the parent and get ready for this, by the way, MJ. The parent's the one who silently has to understand

that that's what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready for anything. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're ready for, fucking slime socks.

If I had boys, I would have to, like, put my, like, a box of Kleenex next to their bed when they turn a certain age, just silently not say anything about it. You know, you got to, like, anticipate their needs before. Right, right. Are they eating a bunch of carrots? High school boys, am I right? Man, they come in their knee. Oh, they eat at a house or home with carrots.

Oh, I tell you, you can't keep them around the bottles of water and carrots. And water. This is the most healthy. This is the opposite. Early a late aughts. Whatever the fuck we're calling it, film? I tell you what, man, that's why everyone loves coming over to my house. My house, like, it was like termites would come through the house.

Because my house had all the good food and all the good snacks. And they would just, man, eat everything. My dude friends, they would just soak it all up. Oh, yeah. You learned the friends who have the good snacks. It was, I had the friend who had the good snacks and that's where we went. Now I'm the place with the good snacks. Like I always have dessert available in case you want it.

Yeah, you got to, you got to, you either parent the way you're parented or you. Or you buck. Or you buck and you buck. Oh, my God. I love this car. I'd come on a sock and throw it at this car. I would love a pink convertible that's a Jay-Z on the, run of it. Let's be real. So we're still in this universe where the villains of this movie are a

brother and sister who are kind of like, uh, the brother is like, clearly Paracelton, by the way, the evil. Right. The sisters got Paraselton. And then the brother's kind of like vaguely queer coded as just like a, like a sassy bitch who everyone hates. Yes. And they play golf. There's a lot. There's a lot of backlash to the who did I just, it was Hocus Pocus. We just did an episode on Wiz of the Bruiser for Hocus Pocus. Same director as high school musical.

Really? And I read an inner, yes. Kenny Ortega? Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if he did the sequel, but I'm guessing he did because it's so similar. But regardless, like, he fought for more queer inclusion in the movies.

And like, this is as much as he could get for Disney essentially. And in hindsight, he's like, I bet I could have gotten more in now, but like, I know he tried really hard because he was like, because obviously Hocus Pocus is incredibly gay without having any like overt

queer like stuff happening in the film, right? Right. And high school musical, we get the same vibe, right? Kenny Ortega is a mastermind of like infusing queer like vibes into something that refuses because it's Disney. and he refuses to actually fully allow it. That's interesting.

Yeah. Right. And this movie was 2007. So it really is quite a long time ago. And again, remember how different the country was at that time. This is pre-Britney Spears breakdown. This is way before any kind of acceptance. And yeah, not to mention pre-you know, gay marriage and pre-I think pre-Obama even saying he was okay with gay marriage.

It was really a very, very different time. And especially pre-anti-exam. Semitic Kanye West. So, I mean, we have so many things have changed. Yeah. Some for the good, some for the bad. You know, queer people can get married now, but also there's just fucking Nazis everywhere. So, you know, you can't lose some.

I will say there is something very fascinating about works like these that are like incredibly queer without ever being actually queer. Right. That is interesting. Do you think I could get Henry to dress as Ashley? Tisdale and her brother for Halloween. You should absolutely do that, Jackie. I would love that. Henry could be Sharpay.

I want to be Sharpay. All right, you can be Sharpay. Oh, that is not iced tea. And if that's iced tea, I don't know. Yeah, that's blue. It is blue. Ice team board of England is blue. The class politics of like the movies we grew up with are so weird because they're just like,

rich people are awful. And yet, it's like, there's no. And like everyone also looks rich. So like it gives you this impression of richness. Like everyone is like, you know, share from clueless. But there's like, I don't know, it's just weird how like rich people are always the enemy in movies from when we grew up. But. Well, because, but that's America in general, right?

I mean, like we're all trying to become, we're all trying to become the enemy. Isn't that fascinating too? I think it's that we all, I think, I don't know, I guess it's that there. there's a desire to identify as the underdog. So it's like the, the, if the villain, to make the villain the most villainy, they've got to be like rich bitches. Well, they do have a lot more control over a lot more things.

I like this. You know, by the way, I like this song. Yeah, I like this song too. I'll admit that. I would be the evil rich people. I guess what I'm saying is that, like, 90s and 2000s media gave me the impression that I would be going to school like a long sign

and very rich people, but those people don't live in my town, nor do they go to the public schools, you know. Here's where I come in, MJ. There is a scene in eighth grade where she goes to a friend's grotto pool party. I definitely specifically had that experience. Okay. All right. I went to, but it was because I went to private school. Yeah. But I wasn't like, I was on the lower end of the, I still grew up very well for sure.

I'll never say I grew up like hard. But when you compare yourself, I didn't have a grotto pool like this one in my backyard. And I went to a birthday party for a girl where that's what they had. Right. And then you're like, feel so out of your element. Right. I guess the experience of going to a social event that is way richer than you is a really common experience for kids.

It's so weird. And it's so like that scene in eighth grade was like perfect. my experience and and this is like a dumb oh yeah this bitch as she should as she should

oh my god Zach Ephron looks like he's like 10 years old to me I like to see him with his jaw hanging off of his face I thought she just said the C word for a second that would be great if they just dropped the C word like 20 minutes into the movie this fucking

carrot. I'm just so glad that the one kind of plus size person is completely covered up at the pool. I say thank God because I'd be scared. I'd be scared to see her in a bathing suit. Let's see if she's also the run of every joke. Let's wait and see if she gets up. I hope so. I bet she's alone.

Also, also, it's her pool and she's never she does not a swim. Bullshit. Bullshit. You have a pool in your backyard. It's going to happen. A white bathing suit. It's bold. I'd be so scared of wearing a white bathing suit.

Yeah, no, absolutely not. A high school girl would never. No. Maybe a broad, but by... Not even as an adult, I don't think. I'd be like, nah, I'm good. I'm just going to get mustard all over it. I just feel like the experience of being a high school girl wearing a swimsuit is to just know that you're doing something embarrassing, but you don't know what it is.

It's like, is it going to have to do with pubes? Is it going to have to do with periods? is it going to have to do with nipples? I'm going to show something that no one wants to see. That's all I know. And everyone is only going to remember that about me. For the rest of... I still remember everyone's like swimsuit transgressions

because it was like the teen equivalent of like learning about your body. You know, you're just like, oh, I guess we're supposed to hate this bitch now because her suit was too low cut. Too low cut. Uh-oh. Too much feet. Yeah, way too much feet.

Mommy's favorite! Too much feet in the situation. Too much feet because they were doing a headstand. I was also, so you sent that thing with Madonna for her new vibrating necklaces. Why does it have to have one of her weird feet in the photo? I just makes me so mad that shoot. And it's not a good foot. Like, she doesn't have a very good foot at this point in her life.

It's so interesting to me, Helen, that you like a high heel, but not a foot. I like a heel. covered heel. I want a horse situation, I think. I think I'd have a romance with a minotaur and like a past life or whatever. Oh, you want like a clompy, closed toe heel. Or not a minotaur. A centaur. Yeah, yeah, a horse. Yeah, centaur. You don't want a strappy sandal heel. You want a closed toe heel. Like a mom at work situation. I love a closed toe heel. Like that is my, it was so funny too. I remember early on I was talking to Lexi about heels. I was like, you know the heels I like, what are the ones with like the red bottoms.

She was like, um, you mean, what are those? Like, Louvitton. Lubiton. She was like,

um, you mean lubitons? Those are like thousands of dollars. Like, I was like, oh, I didn't realize like that was. I was like,

you know the heels I'd love for you to go purchase and wear it for me? You know, they're the most expensive heels. Yeah, the most expensive possible. That Sarah Jessica Parker wears. It's good marketing,

though. I mean, of course, what I mentioned, I didn't realize they were $1,000 heels. Oh, so they're all working. See, it's the opposite of Camp Holden. Wow. It's summer work. Oh, my God. Can we watch Adventure Time next?

That's my favorite summer movie. Besides, like, dazed and confused. It is, I also think it's funny that we're watching a summer movie. Not Adventure Time, I'm sorry, Adventure Land. Adventure Land, yeah. I mean, I'll watch Adventure Time whenever you want because I live to be sad. I live with you keep drawings. But I think it's fun that we're watching a summer movie in, like, right before Halloween.

So maybe in, like, the beginning of summer next year, we watch a horror movie instead. Sure. So we can bring a little horror into everyone's fun in the sun. Well, Jackie, maybe a scary thing might happen during this movie that'll make it a Halloween movie. I mean, you never know. Is it the fact that there's not going to be a musical in it? or do you think they're going to be musical? Yeah, there's that scary?

I was going to say we are, we've been recording for 24 minutes and there's no musical yet. There hasn't even been mentioned. There hasn't even been necessarily a delineation of what's happening. Like, are they in, they're just kids in the summer? Yeah, right.

What has happened? But there's a talent show at the end of the summer. What? That's not a thing. There you go. There you go. Always wins, I think. Yes, yes.

Talent show at the end of the summer. That's all we needed. Okay. Look at how. covered that mid-sized woman is so glad to see it. Cover her more. Where are they now? This is their summer job.

Some of them work in the kitchen. I agree with you. It has summer camp vibes. Right? Well, everything I saw was like, well, it's definitely a summer movie, so I just immediately put the word camp next to it. Well, and like, no one works. No one works with like all 20 of their friends at their summer job.

honestly, I did at the blue stove for a very long time. I did work with most of my friends. Yeah, no, you're right. But not as a teenager. No, I only worked with old people when I was a teenager and I was the young one who had to do all of the work at the Joanne Fabrics. You worked at the Joanne Fabrics?

Years, many years. I have to check in with you guys, though, is are the moves Zach Efron making right now would have maybe been titillating in a younger time in your life? First of all, we were just, Always going to be too old for Zach Gaffrot. Like, it would be like thirsting after Justin Bieber is just like not, even though...

Did you ever like that like bucket hair, like shaggy bucket hair look? I mean, because that's like the young boy, hot boy look, right? Sure, like anyone from Dashport Confessional, if you're talking like swept. Right. Yes, right. But we were born too old to ever like... I was born old. We were born too old.

Don't even ask me about it. I was born old. The only exception to this is to like the... of the kids who became famous, who they're not that much younger than us, but they became famous when we were older kids and they were younger kids. The only one who's come full circle

and we can be attracted to is Cole Spouse. Don't ask me why. I can't explain it. It just happened. But don't you see the zany scene? This is very zany. Yeah, this is very... Very stomp. It was the... It's very dance with the dark right now. If you're a fan of that,

tragic film. Where they're finding music in like, their general working situation. Everyone's always saying that. I think I read a thesis paper comparing high school musical two. To dance in the dark. York's famous. Lars von Trier.

Yeah, yeah, Lars von Trier, Bjork, beautiful. Yeah, I would actually say this is straight up just, I feel like I'm watching The Answer in the Dark right now. I was thinking of that. Is there a blind woman in the movie at this point? We'll see. You know, I'm not mad at it. this.

I like it. I'm enjoying it. And what's her name in the middle? She's selling the fuck out of this. Vanessa Hudgens. Vanessa Hudgens is selling the fuck out of this as a background

person. Yeah. You kind of can't keep your eyes off or it's kind of amazing. Like you can tell the stars. Like they shine, you know? It's so like relentlessly positive that you can try to resist it,

but it's hard to resist it. It's so hard to. The stars they shine. So can you work it out? Next time I want to fucking blow my brains out over my own personal issues. I think I might put this song on. Yeah, man. Let it shine.

Can we work this out? You're just crying alone, grumbled up on the floor. Can we wake it? Trying to slap on things around you. Lex is just like, we'll watch Great British Baking Show with you, but beside that, this is not healthy. You know what I mean? You cannot be doing this kind of therapy with yourself.

Media therapy, right? They're like so together. I remember we have seen a clip from this movie on a Jack and with the Holdies episode. And I know that it happens out on this green. On the golf course, yeah. Ugh.

Yeah, that was so... That was so robotic. That was like if you would program two robots to feed each other, that's what would have happened. Oh. Yeah, it was just like, I love this summer. And that's what they are, though.

Ephron and Hutchins, just two robots programmed to be child actors. Yeah, and it's disturbing because they are selling it, but in like a dead behind the eyes kind of way. What do you do, MJ, Zelda Freddie? I want to get in a showbiz. I'm going to audition for commercials. Oh, my God.

I want to audition for film. What are you going to say? What are you going to do? I don't know. I have actually, I have actually, like, agonized about this hypothetical in my mind. I have gotten in huge debates

with Lexi about this. Really? So you are not far off. Yeah, yeah. And for me, it's even, it's, like, I hope that they don't even want to be creative at all. I don't really hope that. I want them to be creative,

but I don't want them to know the hell that is being, that is feeling the pressure of being a creative. I love this. Yeah, yeah. No, they actually, I can, well, it's too late. They are both incredibly creative.

It's such a funny thing to say, MJ. I don't want to be creative at all. You understand what I mean. It's hell being a creative person. You understand. Well, you don't want, no, no, no. You want them to be creative, but in no way put it to industry. Yes, exactly.

And no way apply it to industry. Yes. No, it would be a major bummer if they were creative. I mean, all kids are creative. But, yeah, mine happen to be very creative. But I don't. Well, would you want them to almost kiss Zach Efron in a high school musical sequel? Look, the water doesn't even stop their love.

Yeah, no, children shouldn't be doing this. Children shouldn't be actors. I'm sorry. I read... They're dancing on a golf course right now is what M.J. is saying children shouldn't do. They can be dancing on a golf course. I just mean, in general. We obviously know that Zach Efron's not doing well.

His jaw fell off. And I don't know how Vanessa Hutchins is doing, but children, I read, you know, the Jeanette McCurdy book, and now I'm convinced that child acting should be illegal. And I'm sorry. I mean, I'm with you, but we're also brainwashed by the Janem McCurdy book. I think we both went through something reading that. No, if my kids wanted to audition for high school musical 13 or whatever, I would let them. But I would talk to them about how terrible the industry is and how if anybody...

Jackie, Jackie, you have three kids. Roy, Joy, and Toy. Three kids, a boy, two, girl. Are you going to let Roy, Joy, and Toy, they all want to get into show business. No, it's not for a second. None of it. No, no, I'm going to discourage it at every turn. But if they want to do something, they can do theater.

They're allowed to do stage theater, but they are not allowed to get into the business. But here's that. Until they beg me to do it. I was going to say the fucked thing that I'm learning is that the more you don't want them to do something, the more that's the thing that has all the power. Right. No, no. I'm so mysterious, though. I'd say, do what you want.

Say it like that, and then they'll know they can do what they want. Man, there are a lot. I feel like we're really not giving enough attention to the jaunty hats in this movie. I know. That fucking fedora that the gay boy, the not gay boy was wearing, that is a crime. That was such a horrible. There's a lot of crimes happening via hat in this movie. And the pianist right now.

Yeah, I forgot about the gay, not gay pianist as well. Yes. Yeah, yeah. She is, that is terrible. Is this how you showed that a girl was gay and nobody liked her in 2007 was to put her in a hat? Put a hat on her. Unless you're in pretty little liars, then, I mean, that's just. Yeah, unless it's like a sexy hat.

And can you tell the difference between what will be a sexy hat and not a sexy hat? No, you don't know until you put it on. No. Now the singing starts See Jackie, you don't like children singing I'll tell you what I don't like Whatever the fuck this is Like

Oh you don't like breathy Yes Whatever this phenomenon That they're doing with their voices is It's very breathy And it's like What if I sing at the top of my register Always at the top of my register

It's the head voices. You hate the head voices. Yeah, you don't like a head voice. Then they all start fucking and sucking. That's what I want. I want the piano jams to turn in piano slams. That's where I'm waiting for. I think I'm going to be waiting a long time in high school musical world to get the slams that I'm looking for.

They are not working. Get back to work. See, this is the thing. In my summer jobs, I didn't have time to be gallivanting with boys, singing next to the pianos. I was working with old women at Joanne Fabrics. I'm just so excited by the fact that you worked at Joanne Fabrics. I didn't know. Yeah, I feel like these dresses were made from Joanne Fabrics.

Good, man. I taught craft classes for kids, and I also had to teach. I taught craft classes for kids. and I also had to go round up all of the shopping carts in the parking lot. That was my job as the young one. I hate that I am enjoying the song. I'm going to snap out of it. Why are you too into it?

But it's also this third wheel situation. And she has to pretend to be into it. She's like, yeah, I'm so glad these two people are wanting to fuck so hard. No, she's wet. She's slipping for it. Yeah, I know. All of the workers. Who?

What? What did they came from? And who works? The workers. They were just there the whole time? They're all their working. I kind of like this song. I like this song.

I like this. I like it. I like that I like, yeah, I like the song for sure. You're the music and me, MJ. I may end up putting this on. on a car ride soon. Wow, you have a scenario for which you're going to play every song from high school musical. Music and me.

Yeah, I'm scared. I think that Holden, like, genuinely loves it. I'm sure. I'm sure this is going to end up being another T-Swift thing, right? Where I'm looking like, it's, like, a good music video. I mean, that's just the way it is. You know what I mean?

Sometimes they come around, they make a good one. And then all of a sudden, I'm just like, yeah, my favorite first is first three and you are the music and me. Golden Throat is, I think, a gay term. I think that is a, yeah, I think that was a gay reference. Ew. No, it's funny is that it's definitely a reference to Deep Throat

from the Nixon Watergate scandal, but Deep Throat was the weirdest, horniest, fake name for a person just given information about leaking information about, you know, political crimes. I don't get it. This was a pretty deep throat. This was a time when no one was even acknowledging the rampant blowjobs that were happening around the country.

Uh-oh. Who's going to skip with through the kitchen? There's a lot more skipping in this movie. They're all prancing around. I feel like, I don't know how else to say it, but they just prance every. It's like, it's like they're all like, let's do a move. where we all act like theater kids and it's just and it just would have been the perfect thing for you

if it had come out when you were a theater kid. Yeah, maybe I don't like it because it hits so close to home. I don't know why. Because they waited till right after we were in theater school right after we were tortured. So I mean personally I was just horribly tortured. Yeah, if this had come out when I was actually in high school, I probably, I probably would have loved it.

I think I would have had to. I would have hated it. Yeah. But only wrongly because I would have ended up coming to it later. Right. Because I was weirdly, I rejected musicals and stuff. I rejected any, but it was also a masculinity thing, I think. I was ingrained to not show emotion and be the most masculine.

version of myself. So, like, being really into musicals and stuff, it's like a sign of me being even more of a outsider. Yeah, well, I remember we had this conversation. We watched the first one, like, who, like, I know from teaching elementary school that, like, little girls loved this, like, that it was not for high schoolers in the time, right? It was for, like, you know, 10-year-olds and whatever. But I do also, it's just so corny.

Like, I wonder how high school theater. kids and other high schoolers reacted to it other than to be like, this is corny. Like, did anyone, was anyone like, this is our anthem, finally, you know, because I think that even high school. I mean, there's got to be some people that thought that. Some people loved it, yeah. Like, saw it as like an answer until they discovered like Tegan and Sarah or whatever it was, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Mariana and the diamonds or whatever, you know what I mean? or what's her name? Yeah, it's like kind of before you discover that kind of pop music, you're like, I always just think that, like, unless I was really young, I always like things that were like too old for me.

So I feel like I'd have to be really young to have been into this. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, are they gonna bone? Are they gonna go to Bone Island? It's right.

I forgot Jackie's favorite movies were the Grumpy Old Man series because she was like, oh, I just love these old. Have you seen grumpy old men recently? I saw both in the movie theater with my dad. And one and two. They still hold the fuck up, dude.

They're great. They're great. The second one's almost better. Yeah. Uh-oh. No, yeah, I mean, we joke, but I was the same way. I feel like I always wanted to be more in with like something that wasn't made for me. Yeah.

was like older than my time or whatever. Same. Also, sorry Ashley Tisdale, but Vanessa Hudgens is like way hotter than you are. Wow. In the movie,

your characters. I don't remember Vanessa Hudgens' character's name. I'm going to throw it out there. I don't know anyone's name. If you ask me right now to name anyone, I could not name anyone. I know he's name is Troy. Troy.

Yeah. Yeah, what is who? Oh, they just said it. I have no one. Gabriel? You got. Gabriela. Have you guys ever played golf? No. I had a friend, my brother's friend when we were kids played it and we would sometimes get to be guests to like the country club.

And so I had like a few years where I quote unquote played golf. Yeah. Did you just get drunk on a golf court? That's what I wish had happened. That's the best way to go. Like I feel like that's the little known secret about golf is you can. If you learn the basics, you can get on a golf cart and get hammered and smoke weed for like an entire, just out in the sun. It's a beautiful day. You can play as much as you want. And that is the dirty little secret of golf, right?

Like, it's just a way for you to fucking get day drunk. I think that's true about all sports. Kind of. I mean, a little bit. Either to watch or to play, I guess, footballers don't get drunk right before the game. but the latchers. Football. I mean, yeah, exactly.

I was like, well, tennis, they don't really get drunk. Maybe afterwards. That's the nice thing about golf, though. You're just out in this, like, wilderness situation.

And with the great part about it, too, is you could just be like, I'm good on this whole, you guys, you know, you just sit in the court, in the cart. Just could fucking lit. You can really easily just be lit

and not playing a sport when you play golf. Like, that's, I think, the best part about it. Look at the devastation of that hat! Always this piano bitch with a hat. It's bad hats. All the queer people are only wearing hats.

Have you noticed? Bad boy. That's how it's queer coded. Everyone queer has wears a hat. Dorky piano girl gay hat. Also, no way those golf club parents would allow him to have a fucking baseball hat. on at that table. Definitely not.

Take that hat off. Ew. Oh, he's such a team player. Oh, they're the staff. Love the class politics. Ugh. It's just like the summer I turned pretty. Did I try to force you to watch that, MJ?

The summer you turned pretty? The summer I turned pretty is this show that I was, I'm far too old to have watched this show. I would have loved to have watched it in secret when I was 15. How interesting that you watched things you were too old for when you were young and now you watch things you were too. No, you watched things you were too young for before and now you watch things you were too old for. I just want to suck their youth out through the screen. I don't.

I don't want to be that age anymore. Why are these two together? What happened? She's trying to steal him and she's trying to get daddy to get him to get him, like, like, you know, to be able to play golf and do whatever instead of working there because she's also trying to smang him. And so it's very uncomfortable. Okay.

And it's not really with his consent, but also like, I mean, he's there. But he didn't have much of a choice. Remember, his boss came over and kind of threw the tie at him and told him to put it on. Yeah, I'm paying attention. I just keep thinking about how this was probably a movie that was put on during so many people's either first time getting really high or first time getting really drunk, right? Why? Because it's like such a young person movie that they've seen a bunch of times, but like they just got really high for the first time and they're watching it for the first time or they just got really drunk and they're watching it for the first time and they're like, it's so different this way, you know what I mean? I don't know.

Maybe that was, for me, it was the Matrix was that movie. We're like, we got really hot. We're like, we've seen The Matrix multiple times, but have you ever gotten high as fucking watch The Matrix? And we watched it. We're just like, it's pretty, it's the same movie. Yeah, and I feel like there's that thing with high school parties where you're like, this is a big raging party, but also sometimes we just put on a movie and then we all

just sit down on the floor and watch the movie. Right. Right. For some reason for me, it was, for some reason for me, it was Big Top Pewee was played a lot at, like, summer camps and stuff. And I never understood it because it wasn't actually a very good movie. And I think we all agreed as children even that it wasn't a very good movie. Well, it's a great movie. Big Top Pewee, it's good, but it's, I don't know.

Is it just a nostalgia play? We should rewatch it. All right, let's rewatch it. I think I love Big Top Peweewee. Wee. All right. Listen, I am bumping. But also, that's the one with Bernadette Peters in it, isn't it?

Oh, no. Yeah, is it? Right? We have to bump American Pie up to the next watch along list. Jackie has not seen American Pie. Which is insane to me. I got a boner to it in the movie theater when it came out. You know, so I mean.

It has to be next. Yeah, yeah. Whatever the fuck this is. I'm not watching the number of the third. I was thinking of the jerk, by the way. That's what I was thinking. Thank you. I was, yeah, the, wow, you were way off.

The jerk's amazing. No, I was thinking about Bernadette Peters. And I was thinking about that one scene where they were singing to each other. And I thought that that was peewee, but it was. That is an amazing movie. The jerk always holds up. Irracial implications, MJ. MJ, what do you have to say about the...

We're canceling high school musical. Oh, it's wrong. All right, we're putting on American pie, ladies gentlemen. representation of Hawaiian Indigenous people. Indigenous Hawaiian people. Yeah, yeah. It's a no for me, Doug.

It is uncomfortable to watch. And I'm going on Jordan Peterson's podcast tomorrow to defend it. That's not how I take things too seriously. I'm going on. I'd be like, Jordan, I saw, can I call you Jordan? Oh, Mr. Peterson. I'm sorry. I saw.

high school musical too. They were horribly offensive and I loved it and clean up your room. Yeah, Jordan Peterson would be like, I just love how clear everyone's gender is in the high school musical too. For that reason, it is okay with me. What is happening right now? Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is happening right now. I love this. Is this some sort of spontaneous talent show?

Again, there has not been even a mention of a musical. A mention of one of musical. I just mention a musical than in the number one. The, the. Oh, no. Yeah, the French. This is really wrong. They're saying tiki to tiki.

No. Jackie to ziki. Jackie, what do you got for us? I mean, in terms of the reaction of this. You know, I think they really look like fish. I think they're doing a good job pretending that they are fish. I'm scared of Ashley Tisdale What do you have to say to the indigenous people of Hawaii about this?

I'm sorry for Ashley Tisdale But also I think I'm sure Ashley Tisdale is also sorry for doing this as well Yeah No way she doesn't regret this as well Don't worry she definitely has on Tanner So Very scary Does she still work

Ashley Tisdale? Yeah she does things she came back from this I think this just skyrocketed her I mean this particular scene oh yeah I don't know why he's the Waku Waku King

Oh he's mad Uh oh so is brother Because brother wants to be her boyfriend king It is just so corny It's like it's gotta be made for like seven year olds I feel like I'm watching a movie for seven year olds What like you do with your basketballs, Troy?

Whoa, rather than professional singing, singing from the hot. She doesn't sing from the hot. It is just so heavy-handed. I really like the pineapple on her head. Why is he such an idiot that he doesn't know she's trying to fuck him? He's a jock, MJ. And, but he likes to sing.

He's jock with a hard goal. Jock with an infant, jocke with an infant sis on jaw. So he was hanging off his face when he landed on that fountain. Don't show the shoes. Don't you love a thong, sandal, holding? Yeah, on a child's foot. Yeah, yeah, it's so awesome in a movie. She is in her 20s, thank you very much.

Is this one of the creepy directors? Like, what's his name? Kenny Ortega? Who did Ocus Pocus? Did he also direct this? All right, cool. I think he's on the level. I mean, I'm assuming.

You were the one who just told us that. You told us that. All right, hold on. Yeah, Skinny Ortega. All right, he passes. He's fine. No, I never had a sexy summer job. What were your summer jobs?

They never had one sexy summer job. Blockbuster. That was about it. I didn't really, yeah, I didn't really have a. I had one summer where I was a balloon salesman on roller skates and a singing telegram. Why have that? That's not. I talked about.

before MJ. Excuse me. Tell me everything about this. Yeah, what? So you had to wear roller skates, you had to sell balloons. Uh-huh. Where were you?

St. Paul, Minnesota. There was a, there was a St. Paul balloon guy, and then there was a Minneapolis balloon guy. So you were just one of the balloon guys. I was the, I was the roller skater for one of the balloon guys who was in like a, like a love, like a toxic friendship with the Minneapolis balloon guy.

So you yourself were not selling the balloons. You were the backup skater for the balloon salesman. I was the, I was the, so he would, they, he would go. So it was the twin, you know, Twin Cities, St. Paul, Minneapolis. And whenever either city had an event, both the, also their names were Tom and Jerry. Whoa. Both balloon guys would go to the events, whichever city they were in. but then they would kind of have this like ongoing turf war.

But then, uh, the guy I worked for, he would fill the balloons. By the way, just like, just look excited. Our two bankers are in the pool right now. They're considering being together. Go on, go on MJ. Oh, they could get caught. They're, they're always just almost kissing. They must.

I just think it's how far we've gotten from like the thing that we're watching at all. I need to know more about this. Balloon salesman. Yeah, wait, go, please. Back to the balloon salesmen. So the Twin Cities has a lot of parades. So you show up to the parades and Tom stays at the van and fills up the balloons.

We're talking mylar balloons. You know, like nice, big balloons. Oh, yeah, you're talking mylar? Mylar. I'm talking Gortex. I mean, we're getting in there. We're getting in there with fabric types. Wait a second.

Wait, wait, can we just pause? Who's the daddy? Uh-oh, there's a daddy here. And he's, is that Troy's daddy? That's a little daddy. I'd like to be held down against my will on a tennis court by that guy. So back to you, MJ. Tell us more about the balloons.

So then I would like hold like hundreds of balloons in my hands and wear roller skates and then skate back and forth throughout the parades selling the balloons. That sounds a great job. Best job of ever hand. Yeah. I used to have a whole... Would you do it now or would you be scared? I would do it again. It was truly the best job I've ever.

It was like, I used to have a whole like storytelling like stage bit that I did about it because it was so hilarious like this, these two Minneapolis, St. Paul balloon feud guys. But in terms of the actual job, it was amazing. Like I was just, I would get, you know, blazed and I would have these roller skates on and I would be holding hundreds of balloons. And like the wind would just, if the wind blew it would just. It was like a sail, you know, so you would just take off on the skates. That's great. Incredible. Much better than working at Lava Springs.

I will say that. Although is it? Lava Springs, I take it back. Lava Springs seems like it's pretty chill. Is Lava Springs the country club where they're working now? Yes. You guys have to keep me on track because I'm not paying attention to this movie. She's teaching a water aerobics class, which is insane.

And then I think maybe there's a Love Triangle thing going on. Yeah, because Ashley Tisdale, Sharpay is pissed off because she wants him to be hers. And then Daddy just was like, keep your eye on the prize. It's not all about pussy. And he didn't say the word pussy, but we all knew he meant the word pussy. And Boss really wants Troy to be banging Ashley Tisdale. Or at least he's being coerced by, oh, oh, oh. If you are not stoned while watching high school musical two with us, you are not doing it properly.

Join us. I've got a thick fireball drink that I made a fireball. I made a spooky mistake. Come join me with my spooky mistake. And I showed up here half a J-bone deep because I was, I knew who I was getting myself into. Yeah. I don't even know why we're watching high school musical too. Holden is making us do it.

We are being held here against our will. Two hours long this movie is. We didn't know. It is fun, but really I just, I'm just so excited to do American Pie next because American Pie, we're, it's going to be tough. I don't even know if we should do an episode out of something. Someone told me that we should not do an episode with American Pie because it is not, because that's why. Oh, it's not going to hold up. It's going to be monstrous.

It was offensive at the time, Jackie. Well, I think that's why... We also say we like unleash, we unlock the toilet. There's no toilet flush. Like, we get to go off. We just get to scream. But like the reason I think we shouldn't do a, like a watch-along regular podcast episode with it, maybe a stream.

But like, I think that you actually have to listen. Maybe I'm wrong. I think you actually have to listen to a lot of the dialogue in order to get how... to get its deal, you know, whereas... There's a lot of humping. I don't have to know what they're saying. Definitely when it comes to us screaming over this movie, there's nothing they're going to say

that's going to make you be like, whoa, that sets gender rolls back 20 years. You know, there's other necessarily in this that's going to be that. But yeah, that's American Pie for sure. Well, we are almost an hour, and we are, that means we're roughly halfway through this film. I don't think a full-on rape

happen in this movie, whereas American Pie, I feel like it's very possible. We could be like, wow, that's actually just full-on sexual assault. Yeah, I don't remember anything about it other than that it was thing in whatever year it came out was to be offensive. And if it's- Them spying on the girl getting undressed with the camera, like, in her room. Yeah. That's probably, that's probably illegal.

You'd think that she'd match her balls to the fit. Yeah, right? I'm actually offended that she didn't match her balls to her fit. But that hair, it says, I decided on that. Yeah, it does. Oh my God, are these balloons making you feel triggered, MJ? It wasn't, listen, this is child's play. My balloons were much bigger and much better.

Oh, they were my lar balloons. Oh, I know how thick those balloons are. Oh, yeah. We're talking the good shit. We're talking 7, 8, 9-9 balloons. Oh, yeah. We're talking dolphins. We're talking.

Damn. How did you do on sales is my question? I mean, how did you even, you know. Great. I mean, he didn't only do parades. He also did events and stuff. But like when the roller skates really only came out during the parades, you know, if I'm just delivering balloons to a college reunion or something,

you don't need to do that on roller skates. That would be really weird if they forced you to deliver them. on roller skates, though, even if you were just dropping them off at an event, you have to, like, skate in, be like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, just like hitting you. I'm sorry, I just got to get to the, where's the cafeteria? The best thing about it was that to him, the skates weren't, it wasn't like a part of the branding. It was just pure function. He was on skates too.

Damn. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's just you got to cover a lot of ground. Okay, hear me out. This whole thing, right, this love triangle, Troy is not invested. Troy does not want to be with Charpe. And yet, he's certainly, do you see what the, keeping the hand on her lower back? He's a fucking clueless idiot.

I'm sorry, but that's, you're leading her on. Was that high school, though? I mean, high school, you were like, come on, man, like, show me, show me the goods for me. You say this as if I always had, like, yeah, I had multiple people that wanted to have sex with me in high school. Yeah, yeah, constantly. Yeah, it was always so difficult because everyone wanted to have sex with me. But you know how, like, in high school, were you like I totally would have been like

oh can you just show me how to do this golf stance? Right. Or how many like how many neck lick parties did I go to or I was like how much are we going to do this? We lick each other's necks and we Do you ever have to go to a lingerie party have I told you guys about my one lingerie party

that I went to when I was 16? I always joke about the one Henry went to in college where it was a bunch of schlubby people sitting around in underwear and like it was such a bust but I've never heard yours, Jack. Oh, no. Mine was the opposite of that. I showed up and I was the only fat person there and I had gone to like J.C. Penny to like secretly buy something so I could go to like all the popular kids invited me to this party and I was like I got to go. What the fuck is a laundry party? Everyone was just sitting around and lingerie. But every no, because our friends like her parents were a part of this country club. I went to a very rich school and we were the poor people because I was one of the small. people that got in via scholarship into the IB program.

So that's the only reason why I went to the school with all of these very rich people. So I got invited to this rich party. So there were no parents there and they had all of this booze. And we were on this like out on a country club. So it was like it was a nuts fucking party. And I just remember I was so uncomfortable day. I got so drunk that I just spent most of the night throwing up in the bushes because I was so. I was in J.C. Penny lingerie because it was all that would fit.

And it was a nightmare. And I remember that like that was. So did you get fucked a bunch at the party or what? No, but that was the time that like the boy that I lost my virginity with, he got outed at the party. And then it was just like, it was like, it was like one of the worst nights of my life. Oh my God. Why was everyone at lingerie? Because it was a lingerie party.

What that? Jackie, can I ask you if we could adapt it into a stage play and recreate it that way? I saw the stage play for sure. If you want, but you're going to have to include at the time we were reading the Stone Angel. And I don't know if you've ever read the Stone Angel before. It was a very boring literature book. And at one point, I remember we had a back and there was a ceramic angel that we destroyed. We're like, fuck you, Stone Angel.

Do you have to include the book Stone Angel into it? And we got in so much trouble because we destroyed a bunch of ceramic angels. In your lingerie, well, puking. This is, by the way, by the way, this is the high school musical to watchalong podcast. This is where we get to when we. This is the good stuff, man. Zach Hutchins is just, there's that fucking everyone's teaching Vanessa Hutchins how to play basketball. We're not missing anything.

I've done a podcast. There still hasn't been a musical. if anyone's wondering. I've done a podcast with the two of you for the like combined for like decades, right? And like, I've never heard that. You don't need a story before. And MJ's selling balloons on roller skates.

It's the best. It's the best. Shit. I'll get some secrets on these watcher logs. That's why if you're listening to you, I wish I had something like that for you. I feel like I've said everything. I don't have anything like that.

I'm surprised I haven't talked about the balloon stuff before. And I'm not surprised they don't bring up the lingerie party before because it's not my finest hour. It sounds like you did fine aside from the- Henry brings up his all the times. I thought it was so, I bring it up all the times. He was like, he was going to like a sex party.

But I knew all the people have fallen for really lame. So it's like this. And just the idea of a really lame sex party is so funny. And even like you walk in, you're like, everyone's dumpy and everyone's covered in laundry and just like, what do you want to do now? You're going to do to do? Yeah,

yeah. Everyone's just like, oh no, he's with all of the richies now. It's surely my own, like, body stuff, but I've like just never understood lingerie.

It's like never been part of my schema. And so the idea of like being around other people wearing lingerie and wearing lingerie, like I'd, like I'd rather be dead. Like, I just cannot. Imagine. No, you must have been so missed.

I wouldn't do it as an adult. I'd be like, no, thank you. I'd rather not. Yeah, I feel like if anything now, I could just be like, I guess I'll buy some nice boxers. Yep, pretty much. Yeah, and a silk robe that you keep open. Honestly, you look sexy as you're right. I will say something.

It is a way to blow your partner away a little bit if you did just as, yeah. That's what people say that into. My partner doesn't give a fuck about lingerie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, but I know that's, I believe me, there was like a portion of my life where I was like, this seems like something I really should figure out because it seems like something most people do and most people like, you know, like. Right.

But it's just like I feel like that part of my brain is just missing. I don't get, you're not when I see other women in lingerie. Dial in on what the significant other. likes. It has really nothing to do with anything else. So dial in on that. And if that's outside of your norm, that's something to jump into. But, you know, you have to know what they're, you know, because like I've always screamed this and it works like a fucking charm. I'm just, I'm a sucker for heels, right? So. I think that's, that's so charming. Yeah. Yeah. If you just do the thing, I'm done and I'm good, you know. So it's like,

They start banging on the baseball diamond. I would love to see that. The gay man and the other. Yeah. Well, he just said, he just essentially said something that was fairly homophobic that he's just like, he's like, I play, but I don't dance. And then the brother was essentially just like, you don't think it takes some game to dance. And then they got really close to each other.

I was like, are they going to kiss? They're going to kiss and I am right here. I know. I know. He's where they heels. Can you imagine if they just started fucking kissing that? How great was a 2012? Is this like a Twilight thing, by the way?

Is that what's happening right now? No, it's because Troy is playing with the rich people and they were a man down. And now the brother made friends with Vanessa Hudgens because Vanessa Hodgins is like, my boyfriend's trying to bang your fucking sister. Do you want to come play baseball? And in so many words, that's what's happening. Thank you for paying attention. How many?

and I mean this is kind of a little creepy but I have to ask the question how many dudes do you think like first time fingered a girl to one of these movies? I almost have been rampant. Are you kidding? I feel like it's not a very fingerable movie.

But that doesn't make people didn't try though. This song right here, this was a finger song. I'm telling you right now. This is my favorite song of the whole movie so far. I like that they're like

you can dance a little bit when you play baseball. Yeah, I love this. By the way, but by the way, it's like last movie, they had to have a basketball song. Right. Now they're having a baseball.

I think this is their way to try to combine like dude bros with ladies. Yeah, well, I'm still at that bad news for you, high school musical too, but I'm not sure if it works. I think there is it. Because the guys would be like,

well, at least it's baseball. Right? Like, what character is, do you identify the most as MJ? I was just unfortunately thinking that I like the terrible gay villains outfits a lot. So I think I gotta say him.

I mean, that's why I asked the question because I think I see you as the picture right now. I think of him for sure. I love his love his love of dancing and I love his outfits. And his ability to be really evil. And his ability to just be like a thriving bitch. Why, who do you identify with Holden?

Yeah, that's question. Probably Cosgrave. Troy? Or what's her name? The main lady. Sharpay? Who? Miranda?

What is her name? Gabriella? Vanessa Hutchins. Sorry, I was thinking of Miranda Cosgrave. Oh, so you're the Aquatics Pilates? teacher and you're the lifeguard? A little bit. Who do you identify with Jackie?

The fat one. The one kind of mid-sized girl that they keep showing up and she's like, they're like, put more layers on her, cover up more. And every time they show her, she's like, huh, huh, like frazzle. I'm alone. All right, this is some really good baseball

choreography right here, though. This is like the getting juiced. I'm loving this. This is the gayest baseball shit I've ever seen it. I love it. Yeah, yeah. I'm into it. But how do you feel about the crowd dancing in unison, though?

Because the crowd is also dancing in unison. And how do you feel about that? I'm into it. This is the best side of the film. Can't believe that made us wait an hour and ten minutes for this. This has been, yes, this is definitely the upper edge. Whoa! He jumped over up.

Right? Yeah, that was great. Now we're talking choreography. Listen, if you're going to make a thing called high school musical too, you've got to have some good choreo. And by the way, this baseball scene fucks the Twilight baseball scene out of the river, bro. It fucks it into the stratosphere. I can't wait to see the Twilight baseball scene.

I really got to see it. Oh, my God. You're going to realize what you missed, and it wasn't a whole lot. They killed it. Now, I feel I didn't answer that question truthfully. Which character do I identify with the most? I'm not sure, but I don't think it's our pitcher here because he's... You're such a sharp pay.

Yeah, I think you're a sharp pay. Yeah, probably a sharp pay. He's such a sharp pay. Yeah. Who were they going to kiss now? Oh. Did you guys watch a lot of baseball games or anything? Yeah, for the butts.

I like baseball. Yeah, he's looked at the butt. I also played softball, though, so I definitely was out, like, I was out on the field. By the way, we're going straight from sports to more sports. Yeah, right into a basketball scene. What in the fuck? Well, he's playing for the Richies. I feel like assaulted.

I'm like here to see musicals. I want to see... Not one musical! Not a one! Much less musical than last movie, which had zero musicals. You know what? Your it is, it's like they're ashamed. of their own craft.

Yeah. It's their ashamed of the thing they'd love. They're like, no, no, this is a baseball movie. And it's a, it's a basketball movie. It's a movie about high school. It's just like, no, no, no. Embrace it. And that's what I mean about the theater teacher.

It's also self-aware. It's so heavy-handed. Like, I'd rather it just be like, we're going to truly be really dorky, but I feel like they're trying to be like, wow, what if we were dorky? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I want to see someone like, yeah.

You're probably good up. Oh, no. I want to see like blades, you know. I don't want to see like slices, you know? Yeah, agree. Man, did you, so we had a really good swim team at our high school because, of course, was a very white high school. So we had a great softball team and a great swim team.

And they were always in their gear. They're always like, yeah, just got out of the pool, you know? I don't know it was just me. And everyone wanted to bang all the swimmers. Oh, yeah. And I had no desire to bang any of the swimmers. Oh, I loved the swimmers. When they would shave their heads, I'd be like, can I feel your head?

Oh, my God, you were so bad. Yeah, I was that. You're so bad, MJ. I was really bad. I thought that they were the hottest, the inverted triangle body. I love it. I was just going to say they always, but then they would always be like showing the top of their cum gutters. I always say cum gutters.

Are you not supposed to say cum gutters? What are, what is it? The cum gutters. I literally don't know what else is supposed to call. Underage people, so it's a little more upsetting. But yes, I believe it's cum genders. But also older people have the V as well. The cum gutters.

You're like flagging cum gutters as like a potentially canceled phrase in 2020. Is it possible? I don't know. I never, you never know that I'm like, Jackie, no one ever would ever call it cum gutters anymore. I don't know what it's called. I can't imagine any, like, structural oppression issue behind the word come gutter. So I don't think we have to cancel it.

How dare you say they have come sliding down the gutters of their pelvis? Why is it this kitchen crew? Oh, man. It's a class war. I love the class war element. I got to say, that is my other favorite part, aside from the baseball dancing. Dance it out, boys They do

Fucking dance this out Bros. And I want you to bring everything You've got to the table boys Yeah, and if you don't dance Him out With your dancing skills Then I will believe that the rich

Should have more control If you can't dance him out You gotta at least Give him a BJ Yeah, yeah, at least These are underage boys, M. Jammy These are 20-somethings, holding have you ever seen an actual teenager?

These people are much, much older. They are boys, MJ, please. I just like screaming the word boys. Uh-oh. Oh. Man, I feel like a song to be yourself, Troy. I'll be right back. Ooh, Pyro.

But MJ, what is he going to do? All he ever does is sing for fun. Not profession. Is that what we're supposed to? I'm struggling to understand Troy's motivation. Like, he's like, oh, I like to sing, but I keep finding myself next to the singing bitch because I hang out with her all the time.

She's always singing. But the singing bitch is the one getting him the better jobs and the better money and the better experience for the summer. I got you. But then she doesn't sing because she wants to sing. She sings for the fame of it, MJ. And that's not what his soul has.

Yes. So he's like, oh, do I sell myself out? he looks so uncomfortable it's just weird the fact that he is like dying on this weird hill of like I only sing because I want to sing when in reality it's all choreographed

Yeah it's like how is it any different Right and also right he's like He's performed He exclusively performs His singing with other people Like so Yeah if he was singing alone in the dark Like, I'd get that of like, oh, he only sings when he's sad and alone.

He's just righteous. He's like a Jason Robert Brown. Yes. He's just a self-righteous high schooler, man. But this skirt is rough to look at. Everything about the Ashley Tustill character really makes me wish I wasn't watching high school musical too. I will say she does a really good job of being something that is cartoonishly obnoxious. But like the atlet, could we just take a moment to talk about the acting quality in the high school musical too?

Because right now, Zach Efron's director was like, I want you to look like you don't like it. And he was like, okay. And so it's like the Mickey Mouse Club levels of acting. It's just like, I'm annoying and I'm scared. You know, it's like. I think that that is a big part of what we were missing that in our age group, we missed out on the. young adult shows that were not, like we have like things like Pete and Pete and all that and things like that.

But they weren't pretending like they were talking down to you. And I feel like that's what this, the high school musical stuff does. I feel like they're talking down to their audience. Whereas all that and what we had was more like, oh no, we're all in the same playing field. Totally. That's how, that's what I struggle with. I feel like I'm lost in the music, so I'm not catching any of that. That is exactly, though, what I'm struggling with with high school musical, too,

because I truly don't want to put on my old hate and outfit from when I was a kid. I don't want to be a hater, but I do find it to be like, right, like, and I know so many people, like, love it, and I'm happy that I'm pretty so many people enjoy it. Does that do anything to the genitals? It just feels like they're so muggy, but maybe it's supposed to be campy, and maybe people like it because it can't be and it's self-aware and I'm just not reading it. I think that's what it is.

Yeah. I think that is exactly what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right. I'm gonna take off my hat. And for the hats. The hats of the P&S as well. Yeah.

So many bad hats. I'm gonna admit that I've been wearing the face of a hater for the last hour and 19 minutes. And I'm shedding that skin. Shed your skin, MJ. Join us get. I want you to get wet with raw skin. I'm gonna get.

I want you to sidle up next us. I'm gonna put on fresh raw. non-hater ready to enjoy high school musical to the rest of it with an unjudgmental eye skin

for the last 40 minutes that remains of this two-hour movie I am proud of you and do you see they're becoming friends and Ashley Desdale is he owed

it does this is that this isn't a summer camp I don't know what a summer camp is you know what this is right when did the stage come out Center stage. Oh, yeah.

Remember with Center Stage? Oh, yeah. And her whole thing was it's like, you dance for like to be a ballet dancer, but we dance for the passion of dance. That was made in the year 2000. So I think this is popping off of Center Stage. Center Stage was made in the year 2000.

I'm dead by old hands. That is the ugliest fedora I've ever seen. It's woven, Holden. It's woven. That is the nastiest fedora. I might like it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I don't like it. I don't like.

I just need it to take a closer look. It's okay. I'll support it. I'll support it. If you want to go through a woven fedora phase, I can't be a fadora guy. No. I'm just like, yeah, I'd have an intervention with you, M.J, if you became a fedora guy.

Is it any fedora or just the woven straw fedora? I think it's going to be several years before the fedora is welcome back. as like a not a symbol of a depressing guy. And it doesn't do with you, by the way. I mean, it's... Yeah, no, it's just... It's just so associated with douchebags that, like, it's just you have to stay away fully.

No, it's a bad hat. Now we got bad hats. Whoa. Now we got bad hats. And you don't want to wear them. Now we got bad hats. And they smell like come. Ashley Tisdale is making it so the employees can't be a part of the talent show.

Oh, no, Ashley Tisdell. Bitch. All right, I better pee before anything exciting happens. Yeah, you better go fast. I miss all the musical number. I'm not going to take my time. We have 40 minutes left. Okay, you better hurry up.

I better make it happen before the movie's over. Holden, I think you should. identify as this guy. I would love to play this kind of part in one of these, but, but honestly, I'd play any part in one of these musicals. I'd like to be the fucking golf cart. Either this guy or the pianist. I would love to be the pianist lesbian, but I, there's no way it's going to happen,

but I, I would wear those hats with. Flap a hat on you. And you'll be like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to play the songs the way I can. and I'm just secretly in love with, you know, women. Yeah, that's you. And that's me. That's you and me.

Yeah, I love her so much. She is really the best. What a dumb bitch she is. I will say, though, there's no way this wasn't a fun movie to work on if you were, like, one of the accessory parts. Oh, they were all hammered and they were all fucking each other. They must have been.

It's like, could you imagine, like, the, because I had a lot of really fun hot times, like doing the high school musical, like the actual high school musical, like the high school play. Did you imagine doing it on this level where you're getting like paid tons of money and you're there all day?

I mean, these people were all fucking sucking and fucking. They're all fucking and sucking, bro. How did you feel did you ever have a crush on a girl that wore a short dress over jeans? Yeah, for sure. Well. Because we grew up in the 2000s. What if Lexi came out wearing a short dress

over jeans, what would you say? I'd be like, why are you being like that girl I was horny for when I was graduating high school? Would you say it or would you be like, babe, I love it? I might be like, babe, I love it. But also, you are Lindsay. You know what I mean? Whoa, you're at your old crush. Is that a good name for a crush though?

Lindsay. It's a good one. Right? Yeah. She was the glow up. She was the started one way summer happened. She was the one who came in sophomore year, I believe it was. And everyone was like, oh, fuck, you just began the hottest girl in the high school.

But you were nothing, but you were nothing the year before. She was nothing the year before. Wow. A summer happened. Her whole shit happened. Can I hope you say Vanessa Hudgens is actually pretty good in this movie. She went from dating a guy in my grade to dating a guy. senior year, like, within a month.

That's a big high school social elevation. The basketball guy, too. He was like Mr. Basketball. Oh, love basketball. Everyone was just like, oh, if I could get in one night with her. You know what I mean? We're all just dogs for it. Whoa.

This is getting deep. Yeah, by the way, I'm the Zach Ephron, bitches. Yeah. That's what I thought you said. And MJ, I told Holden that he was actually the snooty boots boss. I'm not. I'm this Zach fucking Ephron, bitches. I, well, this is that, I'm sorry, Holden, but that's like when you ask people, like,

who are they in sex in the city and they say they're the carry? Even if it's true, you're like, oh, wow, so you just identify as the main character. Okay. So you're the hero in your own story? Oh, wow. You're just the center of the story and the attention, I guess. it. But you are, Troy. Thank you.

I'm the Grotto pool is what I am. And I was like you're the Charlotte. Everybody knows that Holden's the Charlotte. Who is Olden the Charlotte? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're the you're Kim Katrall, MJ. Yeah. Oh, thank you. That's the nicest thing.

You ever said to be Samantha. I would have wanted to be Samantha. People would say, you know, who are you? And I would say Samantha, but also in my head, I was like, am I the Carrie? And I was like, no, I only think the carry because I'm the carry because I'm self-centered. I'm really the Samantha. I think you might be the carry.

Or no, you might be the Miranda. That's my fear is that I'm the Miranda. And who is Jackie? What a fascination. I went from a Samantha into I think I'm a Miranda now. I don't know. It's from Samantha to Miranda, the Jackie Zabrowski story. I'm not going to write it, but I wouldn't be upset if it got written.

I think, and you're so fashionable. I want to say, are you? us Samantha to a Carrie. Honestly, Jackie, I think you're a Mr. Big. Whoa. Not in real life. That's for damn sure.

He's a bad man. He's a bad man and sex of the city life, too. You're right. I feel like we're evershadowing this song right now in this song's a moment. Vanessa Hutchins is walking by a lake. Take it, Jackie. I gotta go on.

Oh, he's running. Oh, my God. bitch. Leave his ass. What about everything we've been through? He ain't treating you right, bitch. You gotta go. Never wanted to hurt you.

Take it, MJ. What about me? Yeah. What am I supposed to do? I gotta leave, but I'll miss you. Oh, they're all. What if I put my hand on your face like that, MJ, without upset you? I'm gonna cry, like Fidexas.

What do you have to? Hands on the breast. Hand on the breast. Yeah. Wait, did she give her back the necklace yet? You're like, you can't put it to my breast. I had top surgery. Yeah, I dare you.

But at least for now. I was at the right time period for this movie. I would have cried during this song. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Come on. If you're seven years long hair.

Or like one. It sounds like also like 25. Like I know, I don't. A lot of our listeners have been deeply moved by the high school musical series. And I want to respect that. This is raw, though, getting picked up by, like, your parents after having a really traumatic mammoths. Oh, look at his sad crying face. The titty's necklace.

Now she ain't got titties no more. She gets the titty's necklace back. They're by tities again, Zach. I mean, Troy. Good for you, bitch. Is this midnights right now? Because I feel like I'm in midnights right now. Forget my parents.

That was so much fun. I listened to it on my while. I had to walk to about like 15 minutes. to get to the office to get my recording equipment. And so I listened to it. What you think of the initials? I know, right? It's nice.

Yeah. I don't know, you know, I only know the hits with Tatei. And so it was, I don't, I don't know enough character. Lavender Hayes is a nice little intro. I feel like it gets you in. Maroon is nice. I like Maroon a lot. Yeah.

Yeah. Maroon gets you into it with, like, I feel like the way she at least can make you feel something about a relationship or, you know, about like thinking about relationships. I think she does a good job of that. Yeah, like, I think she writes a good love song. I saw people being like, wow, she's been in a relationship too long to write love songs. It's like, what do you want the girl to do? People get in relationships and they continue to be musicians. What do we think about in our day to day? I mean, we think about our love situation. We think about our career. We think about Seinfeld shit. Right. You know, and family.

Right. It's like, what do you want to sing about fucking, just like, The end will happen in 2026. The end will happen in February 24th, 2026. You know what I mean? You're just like, what else you're saying about the fucking apocalypse? I mean, what are we doing? Ooh, Daddy.

All right. So we're back in the country club kitchen. Zach Efron's getting some food, but all the pores are like, you are a class traitor. And now... Yeah. Fuck this guy. Yeah, they all hate him because he's a class traitor.

It's all a class traitor situation. And she's always got the hat on. Got a new hat. It always matches her shirt too creepy. I want her to be like butcher. You know, I feel like they're trying to be like, oh, she's a little but she's still like, just let her be gayer.

Yeah. Yeah, full on. He did say, I will say, because I studied this, there's an article with him and some, like, queer publication asking him about that. And he was like, I tried really hard

to make this characters as gay as possible. This is the big song. This is his big song. This is his big song. I'm talking. This is the one day more of my high school musical too. Yes.

So, one. Actually, I think it's more the on my own. No, not more the on my own. I think it's more the, Two, four, six Oh, what? Gonna stop that's who I am. I'm my own, man.

On my own is probably my favorite song on the whole musical. Take it, Jackie. You guys just sing some bars for us. Bet on it, bed on it. Right, this is the way. To drum my life around today is the day. Am I the type of guy who means what I say?

Bet on it Bet on it Bet on it How will I know If there's a path worth taking Oh Should I question it For move I make

But how would you even know You're walking through the rocks Sack Ephron I don't want to make The same mistakes Oh my God He wants to have sex He wants to have sex

From the essence Argens He'll never blame you Try to live a lie again Scam I'm laying it my way. Whoa, isn't he the underdog now? He's Captain America.

He's Iron Man. I'll give you all I got that is my plan. Yeah. Bed on it. Bed on it. Bed on it. I love the way. It's just the chorus is just repeating the same like two word phrase eight times.

He's doing a lot of high jumps, though. What I say? Bed on it, bed on it. Yeah, I got to say, I got to admit. I don't want to. admit it, but I will admit that Zach Efron is holding his own. He is carrying this character

in the musical. He's charismatic is what he is. This is working for you. I mean, I don't know. He's doing what the director is telling him to do, is what you're saying. It's like a movie film, Holden. It's a movie and a film.

It's a go-to-the-the-in-a-film. I just feel like he is acting in this movie and he's dancing in this movie and it's happening. What about this weird reflection moment? This is bad. I guess what I mean to say, even if he's not really carrying it, he is committing to it.

So I guess we can say that. He is committing to it. He's splashing that water. Apparently Ashley Tisdale had a hard time during the golf scenes. Every time she swung a golf club, it gets on slipping out of her grass. Oh, my God.

Oh, am I looking at trivia? Yes. Please. I don't know if you guys know this, but Vanessa Hudgin said her favorite scene was the one where the sprinklers suddenly turned on one Troy and Gabriela are dancing together on the golf course. I remember that. I remember that scene. I'm going to say, by the way, his running that we just saw, I could kind of see this banana slip fountain jaw scenario. I'm glad that you can't watch the high school musical series without. constantly trying to find the, like, the secret of what happened to his jaw.

His horrible jaw scenario. You know, which, you know, we were talking about the shooting of this film and how much fun it must have been. It turns out the country club pool was where everybody hung out when they weren't shooting. So it was kind of just like the movie.

So it's suspiciously like a list, Jackie. And you are just as intrigued by it. Yeah, well, the producers purchased 500 lanterns for this film. Ooh, what trivia. What is she going to say next? It's a way of disengaging with the actual film, Jackie. Look at her new, look at the piano bitch's new hat. Oh, yeah, we're going to add this bitch got.

like a newsboy hat but pink and sideways. Oh, Ali, Ali Oxenfree. Oh, there's the lanterns that they bought. See? This is why I bring you the trivia. I would never have even noticed them if you hadn't mentioned that. Look at the lanterns. See, I am giving you such a filmic experience you couldn't even imagine.

Now, this is the musical that I guess that we're getting from this, which is just the talent show. We should call it a high school talent show. High school talent show. High school talent show. High school summer, not even in high school, because, you know, like, summer talent show, they should call it. Because if you think about it, when had American summer, right, did do this world.

Yes. And I hate to say in a, like, 600 times better than this world. But also, it's just because it's a very different audience. Yeah. I think we can safely say that what a hundred American summer is just a categorically better film than high school

film. It's a better film. Yeah, I would say. I'll agree with that. Just coming back in on this. Bet on it. Bet on it. Bet on it. It's a banger. But also, but also, ask me if high school

music, wet hot American suburbs is a great movie. Is it? Is it? American Summer great movie. Bet on it, bed on it, And there's no songs Getting our brains

For Wet Out American Summer Agreed. When on American Summer, they have that It's like a hot song To open up the credits To our party And by the Campfires

One of the best openings To a movie ever Lots and Fots and crafts I couldn't tell you how that song goes. Yeah, you could Oh my God, look at them. Oh my God. Look at his jaunty hat.

I like everyone. catering outfits in this scene. Yeah, they look good. Why is her name Charpe? Charpe is just me and middle school, though. Yeah, what if you're not the Troy, but you're the Sharpay hold? And I know we explored it, we moved past it, we landed on Troy, but I want to bring Charpe back to the table.

Yeah, I think it might be Sharpay. I think you're a mixture of Charpe and the boss. Sometimes a Troy, sometimes a Sharpay. Yeah, it depends. If you can't enjoy me at my Troy, you don't deserve me in my Sharpay. Both are horrible, by the way. So if you don't like me at this one awful state of being, you don't get the worst version. Whoa.

You're so not a Troy, Holden. You don't think Holden would sacrifice himself to help a rich person not be embarrassed? Yeah, I feel like Jackie, you misunderestimate the amount of vaginas that I have moistened in my day. I mean, I have really... I don't know. I've known you for about 20 years. There are many shadow vaginas. There are many, like, shadow vaginas, secret vaginas you haven't known about.

I don't know. You can bet on it if you want. Absolutely. Bet on it. Bet on it. Bet on it. put on it. Whoa.

She's killing the camp. Yeah. Yeah, it must be It can't be that they act this way for real. It must be... That hat. Yeah, she changed hats in the last 10 seconds. It's a rough, and it's still another rough hat.

She changed to a worser hat. Yeah, the hats, every... Whoever the costume person, I have to look this person up. I mean, honestly at this point. I also think we can claim to some extent the year 2007. Sure.

Oh, yes, fully. What is that hat on the pianist? That's why I'm saying. Yeah, that one's worse. Well, I was distracted by the fedora. It's like a sexy train conductor hat. Dude, the chef hats are like way better than I would way choose a service hat

over what they're in. The crop short sleeve. Cardi. It's just too much. They're trying to make her butch, but they won't put her in actual masculine clothes. So she has feminine clothes that are like, I have buttons and cuffs, but they're all ruffled. It's too much. It's too much. Uh-oh. Oh no. Uh-oh. Switch songs. We're at one minute and one hour and 41 minutes, if anyone is keeping track. It is a long film. We have approximately 20. No, look, only 17.

Oh, never been so happy to see the number 17. Oh, man. In lifetime, there's no second chance. Oh my God, this is going to be a big moment for him. I can feel it. Why is he dressed like he's dead? At his own funeral.

Because he's an angel, MJ. Right, right, right. I don't know if that's. true. Is he? I don't know what's, I'm not sure what's... I mean, there's a sky background. I feel like he could be an angel. Yeah. I don't know. It's not a musical. It's just a fucking review is what it is.

Yeah, I hate the seat covers. And someone has had to look at many a seat cover recently. I don't give a shit about seat covers. It should be called high school song review. Yes. So that's really what it is, right? Yes. It should be called mid-August. song review. No one knows what a musical is anymore, I think.

Everyone forgot what it is. I can't believe there's, there is, I can't believe that they're counting this is a musical. At least the number one had the promise of an eventual musical. This second one. The songs are better in this one. Yes, agree. The songs are better, but the plot is nothing.

Yes, agree. There was a plot in the first one. So I wouldn't even say the plot is worse than this one. I'd say the plot is gone. Like, there's, it doesn't exist. It's so weird. The plot is absent.

Yeah, it's like grownups too. Can you imagine watching two 16 year olds act like this, dress like this on stage? I'd think that there was solo like, they must be on drugs. Let's have fucking hope they're on drugs. Don't get me wrong. I love the high school talent show.

It was like the best day of the year. Except I did just, I bust out my thriller dance a couple nights ago because I was, have whoever forced and or encouraged to learn the thriller dance because of, uh, talent shows? The high school town shows the best day. I hope that it was when all the hot boys and bands came out to play. Yeah. What are you laughing at that? It's a hot boy day.

I just, I guess I was mortified by all. Like one of my friends did this whole thing of like juggling to, I believe, a thing called love. And it was just like, it was either just people doing weird shit or boys being hot, you know, what's not to like?

I did, I, I guess I was one of the boys or something. So I just saw it as like work. You were one of the boys trying to, I didn't do a lot of talent shows. I realized we didn't really. Yeah,

we didn't do a lot of talent shows. It felt like it was an opportunity to have some, to like have a, your little day of being like a charismatic famous person. Have your moment. Yeah.

I found my moments in different weird spots like throughout the weekly assembly was where I found my spots. Yeah. And I had a couple. I had the prom song, which I've talked about last

high school musical. We should have had talent show. I would have liked more talent shows in my high school. I mean, it was also an opportunity for me and my ska band to perform. So that was part of why it was. Love it.

Do you have an actual recording of that? Of my ska band? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you got to find, I'll play mine. I have Varanis. Okay. My buddy Ben can hook me up with Vrain in my high school, or middle school band, pre-high school.

I'll also play my high school band, which is even worse, I think. If I can find it, I'll let you know privately before deciding whether I want to share it with the world. This is not a good performance. They're just in a circle with their butts to the audience, by the way. Yeah, it's like they're playing that big summer camp game, like when you're. Wait, why did the enemies join? Because the song's just that good. Because it's like fucking community holding.

So it's just the song's good. Circle summer camp game where everyone goes like, you know, I said a boom chickaboo boom. That's basically what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That are the ones where they have the big thing where you all like throw it up in the air almost like a mylar balloon.

Yeah, the big parachute. The parachute. Bit every day. Oh my God, I love this. I got to say it. I just said this earlier. It's like it makes you think a little, it's a little Christian rock.

Little Christian rocky, yep. I mean, I hate to bring this down on you guys, but we just did our episode on Ghost for, Who's the Bruiser? And there were multiple moments where I was listening to Ghost and I was like, this is Christian rock, but they just replaced Jesus with Satan. That's why a lot of people get mad about it.

It's just glam rock. It's Satan glam rock. It's Satan glam rock. Sometimes they go, full like inspiration Christian rock but they're just like I love you Satan which I think is great by the way I think it's fun as shit

yeah oh my god they both got it they both got it what happened wait they both got an award for nothing how did they get an award that was a I don't know how they got the performance I don't know they got the award why are they awarding single awards for an ensemble performance

I have no idea I don't well they wasn't supposed to be an ensemble look the lanterns We pretty much just been having nothing but side conversations. So I have no idea it's happening. That hat is a travesty. I hate the hats in this movie. This movie should be called. They should change the name of this movie to hateable hats.

Hattable Hats, too. I like the songs, but those hats. Look at that hat, deplorable on the penis. High school hats. Because like the clothes even, I would be like, yeah, it's of its time, but it's not terrible, but the hats are just offensive. Shut up, Zach Efron. It is just, it makes me feel as awkward as a high schooler. So in that way, it's very well done.

Fireworks. I feel like we're geared up towards an end here, guys. I can't believe it's coming to me. Have we always been watching high school? musical too? Is it going to keep going? They're at least able to kiss now, thank God. Did they not kiss in the first one?

No, they've been almost kissing the entire fucking movie. I'm not going to lie, if this went for another hour, I'd be entertained. I'm highly entertained by these dumb fucking. Yeah, I am way more. I'm way more entertained by this than most structured films. Cats, that's why I love. Cats. That's why I love... Yeah, don't get me wrong. I'm looking forward to our annual Holden's birthday viewing of cats.

This is... It is so nonsensical, though. It just... I just... I can't stop watching. And people are dancing at a pool party. Keep it flowing, man. Tiny boys playing drums and guitar. Remember this when growing up? This is fun. Oh, yeah. We always did this. I like this. This is like those...

50s beach movies, you know? Yes. And now they're all friends. This is fun. I do like this. This is fun. I do want more like beach booky movies. Yeah.

Now it's like I like these moments because it's like we know that we're being like self-aware, you know. Yeah. They know what it is. Now, I would, I kind of wish they. leaned it and I wish this was the whole movie, right? Where they're being like in a dumb band and stuff. I wish it was more classic like old school musical.

It really could be like lay miss in the sense that if they never stopped singing, I would be fine with it. I think I'd actually be happier. Totally. You know. I would actually be more into it. Let's, I mean, honestly, I think at the end of this, we have to write one. I'm not going to lie.

I think the three of us sit down to write one of these. You're the music man, Holden. So I'll, I'll write the music. I'm taking piano classes again very soon. He's a what? He's a what? He's a music. Lex and I have decided Lex is taking classes.

I'm taking piano classes. We're going to figure it out. Nice. Began. Summer's just begun. What unit of time just passed? Oh God. For another hour left of the movie.

I thought that was the whole summer. Was that just like a day? No. Summer just began. We just spent the long movie. movie. We have to watch this movie three more times for the summer to end. To break the curse.

We have to break the high school musical. To break the curse of the summer. I love it. I mean, oh my God. I love it. His pants are rolled up. I wish this is the whole movie to be out.

Every time they do shit like this, I'm like, yes, this is, I'm in. Look how many people are dancing. It's like an old peanuts cartoon the way everyone's like. Yeah, it's totally like this. Everyone's moving in an insane way.

It's just like the Charlie Brown Christmas dance party. Yeah, you're like, why is that guy doing this? Also, this song is going on much longer than I expected it to. So long. Oh, man, so long. Gun. I hope we live in this forever. I hope Jackie MJ has to be.

be in this moment just here with me. G. Jackie and MJ It's almost 11.30 where I am, but we're gonna keep summer again. The summer's only become MJ.

You've got so much more summer to celebrate MJ. Your work day is never over. I heard the third one. There's actually a musical. I'm just going to throw that out there. Don't you fucking dare say that. I've heard the third one.

There's actually a musical in it. Absolutely. I will never find out. I'll bowing that right here right now. I will never find out if it has a musical. What I love is in the sequel, there's not even the mention of a musical. So in the first one,

they're at least auditioning for music. How you have so much less musical than a movie with zero musicals. Don't ever even suggest there will be a musical. And the second one, they don't even talk about a musical. It's so crazy. That was a movie. That was a real movie. Wow, that was a film movie.

The one that you definitely don't want to go to the theaters to watch. I did not watch it in the theater. I don't even think it was released in the theater. I think the third one's the only one that was theatrically released. Really? That can't be true. They were big deals. I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure the third one's the only one that was released in theaters. Wow. This was all Disney Channel affairs. It just blew up. Oh, I don't want them to make us watch reels of them having fun. Yeah, we don't need to watch the bloopers. I think I'm okay without the bloopers. No, we're watching all the bloopers.

No, it's just, I'm kidding. We can. And then they're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, but actor. It's almost done. It's almost never. I just feel like every time I see Mylar balloons, I'm going to think about you on roller skates now, MJ. I want you to.

It was really a formative experience of my life. I can't believe it's never come up before. I can't believe that Holden's banging us while. He went to turn it off and then he said, well, it's almost done. Extreme dad vibes, Holden. To just be like, oh, you know what? Let's just keep watching it. What are we just keep watching?

Now it is finally done. It is finally over. We did this for you, Holden. Wow. Thank you. I can't wait to watch the third one. I can't believe we have to watch another one. Happy wedding week to Jackie.

Next time, by the way, next time will probably be for a funeral. So that'll be kind of fun. So this time it's for a wedding. Last time we did one, it was for a break. I think next one is somebody will, yeah, have passed. So we have to get an episode out. Then it would be really bad. I would totally blame you if we had to do this because we all had to go to a funeral.

I'd be like, Holden, you did this. You made this happen. happened to all of us. We were just like crying the whole time watching Ice School Musical 3. And Holden's like, no, but isn't it kind of funny that I predicted this? And everyone's like, whoa,

no, it wasn't funny. Wasn't funny then and it's not funny now. Thank you for giving us this gift, Holden. Yeah, thank you everybody for joining us. Thank you. We have spent two hours together. Next time we'll do American Pie and porkies and meatballs. We'll do all of them.

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