Page 7 - High School Musical 3 WATCHALONG

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Join Holden, Jackie, and MJ as they head back into the HSMU and get ready to graduate with a HSM 3 WATCHALOOOOONG. Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser are going on TOUR! Dates and links to tickets at lastpodcastnetwork.com Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey guys, it's Jackie Zabrowski, and Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser are going back on tour with the release the butthole cut tour. We're coming to your town. Hold it. Where are we going? Salt Lake City, Denver, Colorado, Las Vegas. We're going to Portland, Oregon, Tacoma, Washington, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, and St. Louis, Missouri. Where can they find tickets, MJ? For tickets, go to Lastpodcastnetwork.com. What's that again? Lastpodcastnetwork.com. Hell yeah.

I can't believe this movie is two hours long. Jackie, you're supposed to start every episode with the song. No. I can't believe you wouldn't be singing a song right now from one of the high school musicals. I won't. I'm being forced. Bet on it. Bet on it.

And being forced to do this. I have. You're going to bet your ass. Oh, you're going to be watching two hours of pure. I've heard this movie's incredible. I've heard you're going to regret your words and deeds, Jackie, when you see this film and experience. I just finished the stream.

And I asked everybody in chat. I was like, I'm about to go see high school musical three. Is it good at all? And resounding, nay! No, everybody's talking about it. Don't watch it. No, they're all everybody. Everyone I talked to said everybody's who's everybody loves it and thinks it's great.

Yeah, there was a lot of demand for HSM3, which is what we are doing, despite the fact that I really truly thought we were going to do American Pie next. but here we are staring down the barrel of a two-hour, one-minute, 45-second movie called High School Musical 3. At least this movie's in no way rapey like that one is. Yes, I mean, American Pie is going to be a hard night

when we do it. Don't get me wrong. It's going to be wrong. It will be difficult. It's two hours long. Usually we do a little more fluff up top but I think we just need to get into this fucking thing, right? We got to get into it.

Ben on it, bed on it. We'd have all these tangential conversations when we start the movie. Yes. Yeah. I also need everyone to know I am already two tequila drinks in. So you have honest Jackie here today. I'm opening a bottle of Madjo family vineyards Cabernet Savignon.

It is a twist off. Bring it straight from the bottom. It's really a twist off because I was running out of time. And so I made sure I didn't even have to uncork it. So there you go. That's where I'm at. I'm a dad on the go. What about you, MJ?

I've got two little whiskey mules, which are my little whiskey ginger cocktails. And I do remember that the three of us were very upset for the last time we watched High School Musical 2. Yes. And today we're not upset. I mean, we are upset that we're watching High School Musical 3, but there's no like external circumstances. Last time we weren't upset about high school musical.

We just directed our upsetness at high school musical. I'm excited. I can't wait. I can't wait to see this film. I'm so glad. Honestly, Holden, we need that. Like, you are the one that is going to champion us through this. God.

They're actually going to do a musical inside of a high school in this one. Are they? Well, I believe it when I see it. I will also believe it when I see it. All right. We're going to do the countdowns. We'll keep this conversation going as we're watching. We'll do the countdown right now.

I'm going to go. What's your weird dumb rule? Three, two, one. Go? Okay, so you're going to say three to one, start. Okay, start. And you hit, you hit play at the beginning of the word. Start.

Right. Don't hit a man. Don't hit a woman. Hit play. Okay? It's very important. I can't believe they're only in senior year.

Can we just throw that out there? We'll get into while we're watching. We've all lived many lives. We're doing it right now. Do the countdown right now, everybody, if you want to sync up. Okay. All right, let's do this. Three, two, one, start.

Wow. It just gives you such, like, it's so smart of us to say. three to one start. You know what I mean? Yeah. So then as soon as you hear this. All right. I see the flag.

I see the little fireworks. We're at Disney's Castle. Is that where you guys are? Are we in Disney's Castle right now, MJ? Or am I at a law office at 8.30 at night watching Hick for Musical 3 by myself? You're not by yourself. You're with your two besties. You're right.

Mandatory besties. Well, I'm seeing Walt Disney pictures. Are we in the right? that? A three, high school, musical three. Oh, yeah. It is fun. I don't know. Everybody. Who's ready for it? Is that on that? Like, wait, for real, though, isn't it? He's so wet.

Oh, my God. He's so tired and playing basketball. He's so wet. And are you, Jackie? No. His jaw fell off. For the child? He's a child. How old is he in the? No, he's not. He's an age. senior year. And the movie, wow, look at that guy's hair. That's dumb.

He's got Bart Simpson air. That's dumb. Look at that goes here. It's dumb. What year are we talking here? What year is it? This is good, good. Yes, I should pull up like an IMDB.

Please do. Because we have to figure out who we can thirst after. If anyone. If anyone, if I remember correctly, his father is the basketball coach. Ah. Right? If you asked me to tell you anything about what happened in the first two movies, all I would say is three words for you. Bet on it.

Bet on it. 2008 is when this movie came out. Oh, that's nice. That's the right move to New York City. Oh, me too. Hey. Oh, they're sad. Oh, they really lost their game.

And also the coach has a really bad haircut. Yeah, why does the coach have a lot of bad haircuts so far? Although I'm a little bit afraid that. Was it like a... I have the same haircut as Zach Ephron right now, I think. No, you do not. No, you don't. You do not look like that.

I need you to know this, MJ. Also, people that young shouldn't wear that much white. You know, they're going to get like, I don't know, tire tracks on it. I don't know what people do, but I feel like... Heroin tracks. Yes, heroin tracks. This coach is, like, strung out. It's so...

His skin stresses me out. I know when I was watching his head lasso last night, and that's how you do sports for someone that doesn't care about a sport. Right. Of course, Friday Night Lights, I mean, my favorite, one of my favorite shows of all time. MJ, you were all about that life, too. I'm sure we've talked about it before. I didn't watch it at the time, but I watched it a few years ago.

Me too. Absolutely fast years in my life. I loved every season. Yes. Every season. Except for. The second season. The one during the writer's strike

where they made a lot of regrettable choices. I'm trying to remember. I thought, I'm pretty sure I liked it all. I don't think I was aware of a writer's strike. That's when like the murder was happening. Like when everything went off the rails. It became Riverdale for one season. Yeah, it did.

And then I got right back on track as soon as the writer's right. We've got music, ladies of them. We've got dancing. Uh-oh, it's basketball music! And the cheerleaders are screaming. The cheerleaders are adults. Did you see those cheerleaders? They were not children.

They were all in their 30s. They were like paying mortgages in that shot. Like it was crazy. Look at them. Man, I love a pet band. There are their 30s. I love a pet band. Were you a band?

Oh, yeah. Did you do? Yeah. And I really like watching basketball. So I actually did legit love pet band nights because I got to go play trumpet and watch basketball. Who doesn't love that? Yeah. I got to eat candy from the candy counter.

Yes, eating candy from the candy counter is huge. Yeah. Soda and candy. And then you just. have to sit through a shitty basketball game, but you got all that candy. What band instrument did you play, Holden? Man, well, I wasn't a band kid. I was friends with all the band kids.

I was in a band with the band kids, but not at actual high school. You did not play like a woodwind or a brass. He's determined, man. Guy's getting me pumped, dude. Look at him, dude. I'm going to throw it out there. I'm kind of enjoying this song. Wow.

We got Jackie. We got an attitude. I don't know if it's the tequila talking, but yeah. It's definitely 100% the tequila coffee, by the way. Isn't it nice? Tequila makes me nicer. It doesn't make everybody nicer, but it makes me nicer. I took a big gulp of red wine,

and I have a huge smile on my face all of a sudden. It has really changed things around for me right now. This is like the other day when both me and my four-year-old were really cranky and then we got pizza and we both immediately felt better. I feel like that's what's happening right now with us and the alcohol and the high school musical. Just a little bit of alcohol really goes a long way. That's right. a little bit.

Oh, it's about that. Vanessa legends. It is a musical in a high school. That's the thing. You need that. Yeah, that's all you need. That's all you. It's true.

You need that one beautiful woman to get up and be like, you're going to enter me the second you get off the court if you win this game. Do you think, yeah, she's going to suck his dick. Maybe. I would like the movies more if there was, I mean, if they were all, it was like college. basketball and they were all kissing. She's going to give his penis a dry rub, I bet after this.

No lube or anything. Just totally uncomfortable. Yeah. Teethy Beach and a dry rub age. Oh. It's where it's high school. It's authentic. There was this girl in my, I felt so bad for this one girl.

She, I think, just wanted to be cool with the upperclassman, gave a dude a beach in the back of the car, and then he told everyone I was teethy, and then she got the rep of being Tee. But looking back and I was like, she was doing that. I mean, that was such a nice thing for her to do. Yeah. There was this one sleepover where I fell asleep before everyone else. But that was the sleepover where everyone shared how many BJs they had given.

And I really missed it. Oh, man. Did they put your hand in hot water? No, I always fell asleep. It was like not even a novelty for them. I have a way worse one. In college, I didn't go to, like, one party. It was, like, the one party I sat out.

And a giant orgy broke out and, like, everyone fucked everyone. And, like, my crush was there. And she was all fucking... Yes. Oh, that's good. I was so annoyed. And I was just like... And I think that was actually the villain origin story of my sexual frozenness.

I think it happened. That was the beginning. It was that orgy-miss. I was like, fine then. I guess I just don't enjoy it because I missed that one night. Everybody just kept talking about how amazing it was. My crush was like, my back hurts

because I was just getting rammed. You know what I mean? I mean, at least if you think about it, probably none of it was actually good sex. No, I'm sure. Does that make you feel better? There's a bunch of acting students in college. You know what I'm saying?

I love giving a little what's up to Jeff myself. All right. Jeff with the pop-in cameo. Let me do a quick review. Zach Ephron is some jock. That boy with the curly hair is his friend or enemy. Yeah. And he's, I don't know.

They're friends. They're friends. All right. And Vanessa Hutchins is Zach's girlfriend. Girlfriend lady. Yeah, for sure. And that was from the last, yeah, they've gotten, because he was telling her to bed on it. Right.

You know what I mean? But what, I mean, I know that in the first one, nothing happened. I can't remember what happened of the second one because we were too angry when we watched it. Man, we were so angry when we watched it.

It was summer vacation. He told everyone to fucking bet on it. He worked on the golf club. Yeah, he worked at the golf club and it was just bed on it. There's no plot that I need to conjure up into my brain.

You're right. I can actually tell you what happened in the first one. Why can I not tell you a single thing that happened actually in the second one? Because we were all really upset when we watched the second one.

All right. It sounded like we were just upset to be watching high school musical too. Really, we were upset about something else. I think for you guys, it was a little bit of both. Now I'm happy because I know that we're one step closer to watching a different movie at our next watch along. You know what I mean? This is it. This is the end.

We are finishing it. We're doing what we set out to do. Yes. Watch young people kiss inside of a truce. inside of a tree house. That's what we're really here for. I'm looking up a synopsis of two. High school musical one.

They're putting on a high school musical. And with no musical, yes, we never see. He is a basketball player with the heart of gold that dreams of the stage. Yes, right, right, right. And he's in love with her. What's your name? Vanessa Lodgeens. The karaoke scene.

The karaoke scene. And he ends up being the star of the show, right? and they end up kind of having a love moment at the musical, right? And there's those bitchy twins, those gay twins that we all hate. Gay twins that we all hate. But it's not because they're gay. We love their gay.

We hate their hats, though. It's really the hats that are the culprits. Okay. It's summer break, this is two. It's summer break and the kids of East High are out for some fun in the sun. Unfortunately, they are all broke and must get jobs in order to be able to afford to enjoy themselves.

Troy thinks his problem is solved when he gets a job at Sharpay's family resort, but doesn't realize he has an ulterior motive for hiring him. Luckily, some of his fellow wildcats have jobs there too. And then he helps a woman get an abortion. I'm sorry, that's dirty dancing. Got lost in the sauce there in the last one. Did that help at all? I don't even think that helps me. Who's Troy? Is Troy is that Gaphron or is he the other guy?

Troy is Zach Ephron. All right. All right. See, now, all right. Now I'm sad. I don't need anything else. That guy's, Vanessa Hutchins.

We're good. So now, like, he's happy, but he's not happy because he's going to go, like, he won the big game. He's going to go to his dad's alma mater. But, like, is he happy? He doesn't know.

Yeah. Right. He's got everything a man or, and boy could need. but he's got looks, talent, money. He is 33 years old. Wow, he's 33. No, he's not 33, but I'm just assuming he's 303.

I was about to be blown away because he was 33. That's hilarious. I'm looking up how, what you're talking about. I'm also looking up. Okay. He was born in 87, so he's out. He's my age. Okay, so how old were you when you moved to New York? 21.

21. Okay. Yeah, 06 is when I moved. So minus 82, I was 22, right? All right. So Zach Ephron is 21 in this. That's fine. I don't thirst for him.

So it's not even like, oh, is he holding up to thirst for? Because I don't. Straight up, I think, and maybe I am, like, I have a horny problem. I think the real reason I don't like these movies is because I have no one to be horny for. Yeah. And I think that's a sad truth from Jackie Zabrowski right here. That's not a surprise to anybody who's ever listened to you. podcast. Yeah, totally. There's no monsters in this. There's no monsters manhandling women.

Like, there's no C-L-R.A. There's no Mormons. Yeah. Yeah. No grown-up, washed-up actors. There's no aliens. There's no like someone you think that are aliens, but in fact, they're actually just incest, uh, bastard children from an evil man that's already dead and they live in the woods and you think they're aliens, but in reality, they're just bastard incest children. Season four, season five. I think season four. Season four. And also I hate the Vanessa Hedges is wearing so much white.

Do you get it? Yeah. She's pure. Yeah. She's pure. I don't like how they make her. I don't like how they style her. I don't like when the protagonist is the girl I hated in high school.

You know what I mean? Like the lead character is the girl that I was like, oh, you're so perfect. You know what I mean? And no jocks were like this guy either. There was no jock that was sensitive and did the musical. They were all assholes. They called me the gay F slur. And it was not like this.

And it was because I did theater. You know what he means? Oh, they're up in his tree house from when he was younger. Was a boy. Yeah. And he said earlier, he said, you're the second girl I've had up here. And she was like, ah. And he was like the first one was my mom.

Ew. Yeah, weird. to where to say it. And look, here's his mom again. Mrs. Cock Killer. Mrs. Cock Killer. Jesus Christ. What word am I looking for? I hope to get Cockblock.

I want to get Mrs. Cock Killer on my breasts tattooed. Yeah, me, I'm Mrs. Cock Killer. Okay. So I was low-key reading what happened. I was low-key reading what happened. Is that Sharpay? That's Sharpay, yes. Ashley Tisdale.

It was a whole thing where Sharpey hired Troy at her fancy father's resort. Because she wanted to F him, yeah. Because she wanted to be with him, and it's all a whole, like, her trying to be with him and Gabriela is in the scene. And then there's this, and then there's Ryan who is, like, taking Gabriella away. It was a total, like, oh, but they're getting taken away by, these other people and then they end up like being in love at the end and it was a talent show at the end of the summer.

This fit is horrendous by the way. This is a really 2008 outfit. Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. Yes. The low-rise. Especially 2008 like hot popular girl too.

Yeah. Specifically. It's weird because I don't like high wasted things on me. But then when I and I so I feel like in my head I'm like, yeah, I guess I'm a low-rise person. But then when I see like true. mid-aughts low-rise, I'm like... Yeah, it's like way too much. No, you're not.

Yeah. She's jerking off her dogs. That's what I used to do. Ew, she's gonna put on it... She makes me think of like for the wedding when how many people were like, you're gonna wear a tiara, right? And I'm like, you know what?

I'm not gonna wear a tiara. Can I honestly, I know you guys weren't down for promposal, which I think is a travesty and I think you should be burned in the fires of the underworld for it. But what about the Jonas brothers? I think that's the movie I thought happened at a summer camp. We cannot stay in a Disney high school universe after this.

Okay, fine. Enjoy your rape films than MJ. That's it. I'd rather, I'd rather put on a Serbian film and do a watch-along of a Serbian film. We're just like, I can't believe they're doing that. Why are we doing this? So we're doing what? So you think American Pie will be our next?

I think a lot of people are scared of us of doing American Pie. I can't believe that was our high school movie. And this is like that generation. What a night and day. Well, I mean, I guess this is a middle schoolers high school movie. Yes, this is not a high schoolers movie. Yeah, this is not a high school movie. But even in, I don't know, I was watching.

But for me, it was like dumb and dumber and shit was what I was watching. still watching like that kind of thing, not clean-cut kids sing songs on a basketball court. Everything that we've talked about about the three of us in middle school and especially high school, we weren't watching.

We weren't like... Well, I was doing cocaine. I was cool. But you guys both were not cool at a book at a book release. Yeah, no, but Holder and I were both late to kissing, late to Late to kiss and early to drugs, though.

Oh, see, I was late to everything. You were late. I was late to the party. Well, I started smoking a cigarette since seventh grade. Really? And, but I didn't start drinking and I did everything else, like drinking. That's not true. I did Adderall before probably eighth grade.

Wow. Drinking, weed. Wait, did this year's theme is the last waltz? Like the, like the doc? No way. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with the doc. Yeah, it'd be like a massive. Esquerade thing or something.

These outfits. Don't you like her baby tie? The baby tie? Don't you love the baby tie? The baby tie is such a weird choice. The breast length tie. By the way, that turned into the tiny little thin tie was the, this came right after that.

Well, there was also the skit, like an actual men's wear skinny tie, I feel like was made popular by the swing, the Neo Swing. or am I wrong about that? I might talk about that. The Neo Swing movement. You know, the Cherry Pop. We talk about it all the time. Cherry Pop and Daddies.

Brian Seltzer Orchestra and Squirrel Nutser. Yeah. But I can't remember if skinny ties were a thing that they did. I think it was like fat, clowny swing dancer ties, right? They weren't baby. They were like long and fat like clowny ties. Yeah. No, you're right.

For swing. And then it was thin was hipsterville. Very thin tie was hipster. Oh, yeah, the vaguely lesbian piano player. I like her. Yeah. She's misunderstood, you know? She's so frumpy.

She wears a bandana in her hair and she has glasses and T-shirts. I bet she listens to bright eyes. I bet she does. But like the deep cuts. You know what I mean? I'll bet she listens to Indigo girls. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

And cranberries all my life. Tend you every day. She's just listening to that, getting finger blasted by some other bra in the back of a Camaro. And closer to find. Just doing Indigo girls. I would be friends with that. That's the only one I would be friends with.

Yes. Yeah, you get her to try cocaine for the first time. Yeah, and I'd probably be like. the book release party. I mean, I'll eat you out. You can ruin your life. I mean, I'll ruin your life for you. I'll do it for you.

Yeah, but also then like get really good grades. So, you know, I could just do it all. I like, most of my friends started drinking and doing drugs also in seventh grade. But I think that when I started teaching middle school, like I realized how young. How young that is. And yeah. And now as a parent, it's like a whole different. Like, that's not even that many years away, you know.

But I think that just means you got to talk to seventh graders about stuff like that before they start doing it. Oh, I bet you can't wait. How about both of you guys, can you not wait to be able to talk to your kids about these things? Yeah, about making good choices. Depends. Something as I am excited about talking to my kids about with that stuff or with Winnie about with that stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I want to be, I always say this. I know I'm going to like remember this time and laugh about it in the future. But I felt so like disconnected from my parents. I feel like so many parents are like, you're not cute anymore. You're not fun anymore. So bye, enjoy your weird shitty middle school years. And I want to be like very present for that time. Yeah.

Yeah, I bet you're going to be dressed like Charpe's brother. I'll be dressed like Charpe's brother and I'll just be like, doesn't it suck? Doesn't it suck? It's horrible. And what will piss me off honestly. genuinely what will piss me off is if she has a great time in middle school. I'm going to be mad about it. I'll be actually mad.

No, I just don't know how to be like, all right. So listen, you're going into seventh grade. Most of my friends started getting super fucked up around seventh grade. So let's just talk about how to be safe if you want to do that, you know. Yeah, yeah, totally. You never heard of Juilliard? What fuck are you talking about? This is why he doesn't know if he wants to go to his father's alma mater.

Oh, take a jog by a fountain in your house. No, don't hold in. All right, they're actually making a musical this time. It's for real this time. They're making a damn musical. Isn't that awesome? I mean, there was a lot of scenes on a stage and the first one too. I didn't make it a musical.

I can't believe how blocked my cock was when it came to not getting a musical. Not getting that musical. Mr. Cock Killer, 2020. Mr. Cock Killer McNeely. Good Lord, everybody. There's a lot of pro-cock violence on this recording. I don't know what's going on. What are we watching?

The Serbian film is going on here? That's next. That'd be so funny if we just like said we were watching Ice Go Musical 3 and then instead we watched Serbian. Just kept describing it. People were like, that doesn't happen. I think that happens. No, no.

thank you. I'll pass on that. There's definitely certain movies. I'm happy to just have read, actually not even happy to have read the description of what happens in that movie. I'm good on that. Number one, the three of us almost went to see women talking together right before our last show. I honestly, it wasn't

literally the day of a show. I was like, I can't actively sabotage. It was on Adam Wirtz's top, like, ten movies. Yeah, apparently it's amazing. I'm sure it is. I do want to see it. I do want to see it.

It's just like the idea of the three of us going in the middle of the day, Stone Cold, Sober, since we had a show later and then just being really upset. Oh, I would have been drinking. I would have definitely been drinking. Uh-oh. All right. Yes. What does it read on that marque?

She's a dry. You're a deli platter. Whoa. Okay. Yes, well, sign me up for that deli platter. I want a deli platter. Oh, is it a tie around the fedora that's happening here? I just feel a little bit nervous that I am a little bit like Charpe's brother.

Yeah? No, you don't wear the fedora with the tie around it. That's really where he goes wrong. Did you have a fedora phase, though? I had a boater hat phase. Would you do this fit with shorts, though? Yes, I like, I propose to my husband whilst wearing a button-up shirt with a tie and shorts. I like ties and shorts.

It is. All right. You might be a little bit like shorts. I might be a little bit like Charpeze brother. By the way, by the way, if this helps you become hornier for him, Zach Gaffron, he's 21. He's a grown man child. It does not enough. He does not enough.

Not enough. What about the gay guy? You guys want me to look up the gay guy's age? If Milfanner taught me anything, it's that I'm physically incapable of feeling horny for anybody under the age of 25. Yeah, what's the new age cap, 25, right? He was 24 in this. Ryan, by the way.

I think actually dating 27, I would say. Yeah, I would date a 27-year-old, but I would not. Sure. But I would feel it. I would still feel it. The difference. Yes. Yeah, you gotta want it.

You know where high school musical shines? It's cafeteria musicals numbers. The cafeteria musical numbers is really where they get it, Right. Yes. And that's why two was a disappointment because it was not in a school. Yeah. Yes.

And also, why is it on a golf course? Like, what is that as like a setting for? Yeah, I was like a kid who went to a private school and had friends who had parents rich enough to be members of like private clubs where we would go drive golf carts around and get stoned in the middle of a Wednesday, you know, because that was our want. But for the most part, most kids don't have this strong memory of summers on. a golf course. Yeah.

I did not love a golf course as setting. It's not a rich environment the way that a school is. You know what it should have been? It should have been Adventureland. They should have gotten jobs at like a theme park, like a shitty theme park. Yeah. Or a summer camp. That would have been perfect.

You know. Or a summer camp. Make it like what had American summer, you know? I wonder if they didn't do that just because of the Jonas Brothers movie. I don't know when that came out, but that was such a big deal. Maybe, yeah. Because wasn't the Jonas Brothers success based on like that movie? being a huge deal.

Like, they weren't the Jonas Brothers without that movie, right? Or was it like a TV show probably to? Man, I couldn't tell you. You couldn't tell me, yeah. I have absolutely no idea. We missed out on that hole. We missed out.

Yeah. This is fun. This is fun. I like the song. I like the conga line. I love a rotating stage. Love a rotating stage. You gotta love a rotating stage.

Can't love lay Ms. Without loving any movie that uses a rotating stage. Oh, they uses a revolving stage. God, it almost feels a little too skimpy for all, what's her name? Is that Ashley Tithillo? Oh, the booty shorts? Yeah. Oh, see, now she's hot.

Yeah, she looks great. The piano player driving the taxi? Okay. Yeah. Wait, who's hot, the cabby? Yeah. Who is that? Is that the nerd girl?

That's the, that's the piano player. Oh, she is hot. Uh-oh, sexy French maid. What are we watching right now? What's going on? You just love French maid costumes. Yeah, but why would they put her in one? Because the whole thing is that they're famous and so everybody else is lesser than them and working for them.

Ooh, very Chicago. Okay. I have to admit, I really like this number. Yeah, it's a good number. Okay, minute by minute, I have already enjoyed this movie more than the other two movies. I'm telling you, I'm not lying when a lot of people said, The third one's the best one that that was the one that came out in movie theaters. There's a lot more production budget.

You know what I mean? Because, yeah, a bunch of kids who are 21 pretending to be in high school, singing in a high school and doing high school-y, like, things, you know, great. It's just that the first one, I was very much set in a high school. There was just not enough of the musical. I do appreciate that they're definitely just enough older to be like not totally children. I guess if that makes sense. Like they're still too young and their kids, but like they're not 18 or whatever. They're not 18 and also they're not like 30, like in Riverdale.

Yes. Although we looked it up the other day and KJ. ABA is apparently pretty young. I'm stuck. He's 25. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. No, it definitely doesn't. I legit thought that something. So he was 20 when he joined?

Yeah, but that doesn't make any sense. he did not look. He looked so much older. I honestly thought that the Wikipedia had been an error when I read that. Ashley Tishdale is 23 in this. Yeah. I was going to say she looks older than the others.

Ryan is three years older than Zach Ephron, so he must be like 24. I think Vanessa Hudgens is the youngest of them. She's 20. She's 20 in this. And it her and her, I'm just guessing here. Did her and Zach Gaffron have a real-life romance?

I'm just assuming they did. I think they did. I like that you're asking us as if we would know, but I am. You guys know some of that stuff. You guys might not know like Disney, you know what movies came out, but you guys know like romances and stuff that happened.

Yeah, I would assume Jackie would know that. But I guess he's not a werewolf, so Jackie doesn't have the whole timeline track. This is also, again, these are my dead years. I wasn't watching anything during this time period. They dated for five years back in the early 2000. Called it. They have to, right?

It's just, it's a given. It's like Lily Reinhardt and Cole Spruce. Totally. Totally. It has to happen. Like, if it's, you know, they do have chemistry, though. Yeah, they have chemistry for a... But I'm already liking, it's not good that I like Ashley Tisdale's character a lot more than

Vanessa. They stayed together through all three of the movies. Wow. started dating the second they started shooting high school musical the first one they dated until 2010 after the third one did he get his wiener wet inside her pur hole yeah and then it was a weaner whack a weener whack now he doesn't he felt yeah yeah yeah yeah no i was thinking of the um you know the lorrainea bobbit The jungle. The bussy.

Raina grabbed a knife. Oh my God. That's my father. That just completely, that is a my father thing, 100%. It is annoying that it's called the Last Waltz, and they're probably not going to reference the very famous documentary with that title. That is awesome. And the mood, make the music so much cooler if they did incorporate that as a theme.

Do you not know what that is, MJ? No, tell me. Oh my God, you have to watch the last once. Wow, yes. It used to be, we used to watch it every Thanksgiving because it was done on Thanksgiving. You know, you know the band, right? Yeah. It is the band's final concert.

And it was, it's a documentary concert movie. And it's like, Bob Dylan and Levin-on-Hell and like Scorsesey directs in. Wow. It's unbelievable. It's insane. And it's fucking, and it was directed by Scorsese. So it's amazingly shot. Wow.

It's incredible. This movie will knock your sock top. I just can't believe you're talking through their romance right now. I know. Their beautiful moment. You could actually see the top part of her cleavage. Yeah. I was going to, I thought you were saying that they like each other.

But that's also true. No, but you see her dress is ripped in the back. Did you see that? It's a little older. There's, you know, what's this rated? Did this get an X? Oh, this is definitely an X. He really did he is doing these lifts though

Yeah, he can't dance, he can sing I would love to see him do modern like musicals Like I know he's probably worked really hard to get out of the under the You know sheen of this but it would be cool Martin All right I'm your dad here Oh Charlie

It's a bigger sheen It's a much harder one to get out winning. Tiger blood or whatever. Remember that? That was the whole thing. Yeah. Look at the mountain in the background.

That's pretty. Yeah. It's a beautiful setting. I like the little, this little is a cute dance. Yeah. This is another good one. Oh, I do.

I'd be happy if Wendy's in this stuff like this. We'll watch musicals all day long. Man, I rewatch, because I did a podcast about it, I rewatched Sing Street, fell in love all over again. God. Fucking love that musical movie, man. Oh, there's a new one that just came out, by the way,

that's apparently supposed to be amazing by him. Let me look it up. I've never seen Sing Street. Oh, you would really dig it, MJ. Jesus Christ, like my favorite musical movie. It's by the guy who did once, which I also love. Have you seen once? No.

God damn, I want to stop this movie right now and watch once with you right now, It's so good. But we're not going to do that. We're going to stick with this. I'm enjoying this. They're dancing. Can we watch once? Can we stop this?

Oh, it's raining. It's May rain. It's been in my life. It's the best of the main game ever seen. Now I just want to watch once, man. I do want to watch that again after I saw it on Broadway because they turned once into a Broadway musical as well. Well, did I tell you about this?

I don't know if I told you about this. Lexi surprised me with tickets to Sing Street on Broadway. And then everything got shut down. No. And it just never happened. I'm sorry. It was right before. You've told me about this.

Believe me at the time period, you think you didn't tell me about this? Fucking sad. It was going to be so amazing. All right. I do want to give them props for having two kids who actually look like they're in high school. Ew, they're children. I don't want to see them with their shirts off. I don't like that their shirts are off.

I know they're in a gym locker, but like still yuck. Yes. All right. So the movie, the movie Flora and Son is what I'm talking about, came out this year, but I don't know if it's out out. Joseph Gordon Levitt is one of the lead actors.

And it's getting great fucking reviews. I think it did really well at like Con or something. And it's like getting huge good response. so excited. Flora and Sun. Flora and sun sounds great. How did you know the three words

with the ring of fate? Wow. That's Mushnik and Sun from Little Shop. Wow. Did you guys watch the one of my favorite musicals? The TV documentary mockumentary called American Vandal

where they're trying to It's a group of high school kids. It is a mockumentary. but the kids actually really, really, really seem like they're in high school. Like, they're really, they're young, but they're so funny. And it's about, it's like a kind of who done it, true crime style, but they're trying to figure out who's drawing dicks all over the high school. Oh, I have seen that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

I want to see that. Oh, my God. You would really enjoy that. It's a movie? It's a series. It's like a, I think it was either on Netflix or something like that. but it was like an eight episode series about... What's it called?

American Vandal. Oh, cool. I'm sorry. I'm so disgusted by what is happening right now. Yeah, why did they do that? And I feel like, this is really, like, weirdly upsetting me. This would be so fucking dramatizing. Yeah, do you want to describe what's happening just in case anyone's just randomly

listening? Oh, that Zach and Fron and his buddy stole the clothes of these children that I'm assuming are either freshmen or sophomores and they were running through the school. in their towels trying to get their clothes back. And they're like, they're in towels. They're children. You are ruining them psychologically right now. If this happened to me, if I was a freshman or a senior,

this is when, like, this is the type of incident when like your personality splits. You know what I mean? Like this is when it divides. Yeah, this is going to be something that they mention for the rest of their lives. They might tell it like a funny story. might not. It depends. This is the thing. And then they become the protagonist in the film split by Mnichamalan, I believe. So what happens after that? Wow, do we just get lost in the beautiful moment?

Yeah, we just have to watch what's happening. I'm mad about the trauma of the children. I love it, you know, because now there's two of them so they can trauma bond. Isn't that nice? And I mean, hopefully they just, you know, create some sort of trauma bond relationship and hopefully they go to each other. I just want the best for these children. That's all. Dude, I wonder how many. I know they're like young or whatever, but they're of age so we can talk about this.

I wonder, you know, they had to be so randy on these sets. I wonder how many times they, like, fucked the day they fucked the most times. I mean, it was like seven times. I used to think about this with Lily Reinhart and Cole Spouse because it's like, obviously, it's just such a bad idea to like. You just surround each other all the time.

It's like a huge recipe for disaster, but on the other hand, wouldn't it be awesome, you know, to be young and heavy. and on set together all the time. Oh, yes. Just reminds me how great it was even just to be around like my crush all night at the school play. Half of doing theater was so that you could do a school play with your crush, you know. 100% MJ.

That was such a huge part of it. Look, cock, cock killer. Is she deaf or was she just signaling a lot and not talking much? I think she's just signaling, signaling. Okay. It seemed like, I was like, wait, is that a part of? of the thing like the mom is deaf. No, I don't think so.

I would make sense in a movie like this. They'd do something like that. Whoa, weird seeing computers in a computer lab in 2008. A lot of Macs, that makes sense. A lot of Mac books and stuff. Yeah, those are pretty good computers. Yeah, well, they, you know, there was a while. I think there was like, isn't it now like you have to, like, bring your own tablet or

bring your own Mac or whatever, like, or laptop or whatever? To high school? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're going to find out soon enough. Find out soon enough. What are you got some time?

I got 10 years before I'll Oh, a decade, huh? Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And then they'll just be like, whatever, whatever, vape juice or whatever they'll say. No, I'm going to be just lecturing.

I'm going to be like, listen. Oh, yeah, that's going to keep them from doing it. I know. No, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be lex, but this is the thing. I'm going to be a cool parent. I'm not going to be lecturing them not. I'm going to be lecturing them on how to do it safely.

Fap juice makes you feel good and that's bad. No, I'll be like, listen, doing drugs and getting high is great, and I love it. And you've probably, yeah. I don't know if you're supposed to do that MJ. Yeah. Mama loves. Mama loves. And what Mama does is not cool, right?

So don't touch the stuff. Now, where are my thick nugs? Oh, they smell so good. Why does he have the word greensterer written on a shirt? Is that like a popular brand? such a weird waste of a shirt thing on a shirt in a movie. Oh my God, the plaid shorts though.

I had a lot of plaid shorts. Yes, they were hot at this time for sure. 100%. They might need to look up the age of the nerdy introvert girl because I'm starting to be starting to be into it. Or is your penis stirring? No, Jackie, please.

Come on that works. Good, God. Oh, is it just, or is it the tiny ties and the little... Jackie, you know this about it. You have to pull on that thing for like 45 minutes before it even starts to be like. Yeah, before it even just twitches at all. Yeah. Before it even realizes it's what it is, you know.

Oh, I'm a penis. And then it starts to, you know. You have to remind it it's a penis going, hey, you're a penis. It thinks it's an old man. It thinks it's a dying old man. Oh, you're a penis. Please get hard. You're being a real greenster right now.

Yeah, what is? I'm kind of pissed about this greenster situation. That could have had anything written on it, anything that would reference the movie or musicals. Oh, so it's all about trying to get people to go to senior prom. This is Promposal, Holden. We're watching Promposal. Yeah, we're doing it.

I would love to watch Prom Pazel after this. Thank you for saying you would. And also, I mean, you guys only dealt with this with Sadie Hawkins, but I remember it being so, I mean, I've told my trauma story. my prom date to prom. Oh, you did? Yes. It was not unheard of for the girls to ask.

Totally. Not unheard of, but usually, you know, it was the other way around. I was terrified. I was terrified. I remember the look of disappointment in the girl's eyes who I asked to senior prom. Just that moment of like, I guess this is my last year, what I'm doing. You know, that kind of that, you know what I mean? Like, she's like perfectly fine to go with me, but it wasn't.

but it's no longer going to be magical. You know what I mean? It's no longer going to be this, like, special night for her because she's got to go with me. And classically, I was the first of all of my friends to ask someone to a homecoming freshman year, and she turned me down. And she said, no.

I wonder why. Jackie, did you ever like? She said yes later in the day, and I should not have taken her up on that. But yeah, that was a terrible, awful day in my life. That was such a bad day. Did either of you ever, like, go to a dance with someone you had a crush shot, like someone you liked? No.

Brutely, yes. I mean, I know that I've said this story probably too many times. But my senior year, when I was up, when I won prom queen, I was with the boy that I had had a crush on for six years. And I got up Mike the courage to ask him. He was a freshman in college. and he came back to go to the prom with me. He was one of my good friends, and I won prom queen,

and I couldn't find him. And then you have the dance when you win prom queen. So I danced by myself after I won prom queen. And of course, I, like, did it up. You know, like I had a blast, just dance in the middle of the floor by myself. Nobody stepped in to dance with you, though. Like, that would have been nice.

Nobody stepped in to dance with me. And then I found out that he was busy hooking up with my friend in the bathroom. And I was devastated. Oh, I know, I bet. How do we prepare our children for these devastations. I'm telling you, that's the thing I want to protect them from the most, just other kids. I don't know what to do. And like he was within his, like, he never.

said that he was like there with me with me like it was never you know like there was that that was never I guess established but like it was I was like you came back from college to go to this with me I like I've been waiting to ask you on a date for six years oh my god and he broke my heart this is a little questionable here this I don't know I'm liking this number this the nerdy girl though Geez Louise. She's cute, man. It's because she's gradually becoming a sexy librarian. Yeah, so they're getting lower and lower on her nose.

Right. Well, now she's all, but look, I mean, she's totally, you know. She's all that. She's all that. Yeah. I like how much choreo there is in this one. Yeah. I feel like there wasn't enough choreo.

This is far better than the first two. Yeah. Yeah. Then the first one, I think the first one had some pretty good choreo. It did, but it didn't have enough. musical in it. Yeah. No, it didn't.

This already has more songs. It had some good cardio. I really feel like they kept the heart rate up and just really prolonged it. This is a good, this is a good number. It is good. Wait, MJ, you're getting drunk, right? Yeah, I mean, slowly but surely.

Of course. Okay. MJ's complimenting the movie. Are you kidding? I'm just making sure I'm not like alone over here. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, you're good. It's tough.

I really haven't been drinking much at all lately. And so my body really is very surprised when it encounters alcohol. Yes. Oh, yes. I got to be like, hurts the stomach. This is an old friend of yours. Yeah, after I took the month off, I had to like retrain my brain.

Like you don't have to swallow the first glass of wine and then pour a, you know what I mean? Like, take yo time. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm taking my time. Ooh, I like, see this is the problem. I like the brother's tie. It is a sequin tie. Ooh, a sequel tie.

Yeah, but how do you feel about the tan suit? I hate the tan suit. Or is it baby pink? Like, I can't even tell. I think it's a tan suit. Like, remember that time Obama wore a tan suit and everybody lost their mind? Yeah.

Oh, that's her assistant, by the way. That's, um, Sharpay's assistant. That little guy? Isn't that the little guy who they stole the? No, that's, no, I was talking about the, the girl that handed her the dog. Oh, okay. But that little guy is the guy whose clothes they stole, right?

Yes. See, if I was like 11, this skinny 14-year-old boy with the bangs at his eyes, that was the type of boy that I liked. That would have been it. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. With like pants so low that it's just like obviously not at his waist. And a shirt that goes just to the level of the belt, this really is bringing back the aughts for me. this is actually how they missed. Like, how did they do that?

That wispy long hair that ended up being all the rage at this time, I've never understood. Thankfully we missed that. We were already too much that. It's very like anime to me. It's very like. I think Bieber was first, right? Yeah, it was kind of led by the bebes for sure.

Because this is post-bebeam? No, 2008 is pre-beam. I'm wrong. It was Zach Ephron who started, who was maybe Zach Ephron was the pre-Bron. was the prototype. Because Baby came out, I think, in 2008 or nine. Yeah, but is that when he broke?

I mean, he broke on YouTube, like, way before that. But I think that Baby was his first, like, national. I mean, well, what do I know? Well, you should ask somebody who's 10 years younger than me. They'll know. Yeah. 2009. Was Baby, right?

Yeah, but what was his first hit? First hit single one time released in 2009. Was baby, right? Yeah. Because that was a great. You know, it's called one time. Oh, okay. I was teaching elementary school.

That was my first year teaching in elementary school when baby came out. And it was so cute to watch a bunch of elementary schoolers fall in love with Justin Bieber, including the boys. Like, they just everybody loved that song. It was very special. That is why I, one of the reasons, one of the several reasons why I'll always have a place in my heart for Justin Bieber. Fuck yeah. Luda. Oh.

Oh. Sharpe is sabotaging her college admissions. Yikes. Wow. Who? Is that the gay kid? She's deleting her college application to Stanford? I'm pretty sure there's no way for her to do this.

Right. Sexy piano player, Holden. That's your girl. Too young, though. I mean, come on. She kind of looks like, what's her name? name from the office. Jen.

Jenna Fisher. Mm-hmm. Right? Does she look like a young Jennifer? She looks too young in this in this scene. Just a little young.

Are these guys about to love because they're both gay? I would have... I hope that's what's about to happen rather than trying to shoehorn them into a relationship together. Are they not explicitly gay? I thought they were both explicitly gay.

No, it was 2009. They probably were... Not explicitly. No, I think we talked about how like it was a bummer that... Did we want... watch like the first one on a stream and record it? Because I feel like people were talking about how like that was the bummer is that like they

never like fully were just like he's gay. Yeah, I know. I feel the same way hold. I feel like we watched it with an audience. But how could that be? We might have streamed it and recorded it. We could have done that. I'm pretty sure they are trying to shoehorn the two obviously homosexual characters.

Yeah. Wow. Really don't appreciate it at all. This is wild. This shows you where we were in 2008 that both of these characters are so obviously gay and yet they're trying to make them into a heterosexual romance. Wow.

I like this. That's a cute song. Yeah, this is two gay best friends hanging out. By the way, this isn't the type of children singing you despise, right? It's more like the, like a Matilda style. If they were singing like that but also 10 years old, that's when I can't. Well, Matilda, which I loved, by the way. I thought that Matilda music.

You saw it, right, MJ? No, because I wanted to watch it with my kids, but then people said that's a little too scary for a four-year-old. There's a lot going on. That's why I like about Ronald Dolly, like goes kind of hard. That movie is kind of intense. I think you're, I think maybe a little bit older, but I think it's one of those, though, where kids will fucking love that though. That's like kind of intense. I really, really want to see it.

It's awesome, man. I mean, the choreography, talking about choreography. Holy shit. Yeah. It's fucking goes so hard. You're like, I can't believe these kids learn this. They're like thrashing around and like insane, you know. I have a crazy shit.

A soft spot for kids dancing. I love kids doing the day choreos. But it is a lot of singing like, I don't know what I day. Like it's very kids singing. I don't mind, no, that's the thing. I don't mind kids singing. I do mind when they sing like this. Oh, yeah, yeah.

When they do it. Kids singing in a musical like their kids in a musical. It's fine. It's kids doing vibrato that you don't like. Yes, that I can't handle. Yeah. Oh my God.

I played the Love is Blind song on Cup of Ho this morning so that people can experience it in person. The Wapin'Hsack sing. Oh, make a man. I forget how he sees it. I love you.

It's so bad, man. I have been meaning to tell you, Jackie. I've been impressed with you all week because I was trying, when we were recording Riverdale Roundup, I was trying to describe what the music on Love is Blind like is like, and Jackie just spontaneously started singing a song

making fun of the love is live. Love is risk. Will they kiss or will they not? Yeah, yeah. I've had my heart broken. But I was trying to do it, but I couldn't do it the way Jackie did it. My dreams are in the moon with you tonight.

It's just something that kind of makes sense, but absolutely doesn't. But also doesn't at all. It's so derivative of like any other artists you could think up. There was one song where I was like, they owe Chance the Rapper like money for this. Like it was such a Chance the Rapper. Yeah, you mentioned that Chance the Rapper. I just don't even understand how that could be because Chance to Rapper's songs are like good and complicated. Because he was just rapping about the game.

But he was like, rap in about, you know, he kind of had that like positive outlook voice. But he was rapping and the music was kind of like. vibrant and it just was chance. It was totally a chance song. Yeah, Jackie and I should get together and write like an album of Love is Blind, Married at First Sight, like fake songs. I would love that. I would love that job. You're both really good at making up songs and you're both really good at singing and I

think that you actually should do this. It's a great idea. And like you're like a Foley artist, but instead of like slapping meat to make like sound effect noises, you're just writing an endless array of like, songs based on some dumb moment in a reality show, you know. Lies, lies, lies, you're telling lies. You know what I mean? It's just based on whatever's happening to the scene. If you know that they just go,

we need a song for the scene where she's telling lies. I'm not sure if we are together. Exactly. See, you're going to do. Once you lean in, man, you just kind of lean in. Singing badly inside a pod. Yes. Good God.

Wimble and End. He just said, I just want my future to be my future. What's happening? Why are they at this dump truck? Because that boys! I think it's like a Transformers thing. I think like Optimus Prime's about a pop out

or something. Megan Fox's going to show like butt crack or something. Maybe even whole. Don't you see he's very versatile? He can do so much. He could be in the field. with a ball and he can also be on the stage and he can also take a car apart.

Oh, now the two boys are shaking to each other in the car yard and I like it. Oh. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So silly. Bump your chest.

Do you imagine doing this? Did you imagine doing, like learning this and doing this? This is so funny. Will Smith and Bobby De Niro? Ha! The boys are back. Oh my God. Wow.

The boys are back. All right. Oh my God. Yeah, dude. The boys are fucking backed. I love this one. They do a lot of like crotch slaps. And then they start kissing.

That's cool. What is this kill bill? That's cool. I love this. Man, Zach Gron jumps a lot in these movies during these songs, right? They always have them jumping. It must have been fun. I'm sure that now he's like, oh my God,

I'll forever be known as Troy, but like it must have been fun when you're 21, you know? What a fun-ass time. Yeah, to be like a heartthrob, learning. Are the cars coming to life? The cars are coming to life. I told Transformers. The cars are talking.

Man. I do feel like this is the exact same song as God. I can't believe there's another hour and five minutes left of this movie. I didn't really just set that. Crazy is that. Shut up. We're only halfway through, guys. Not even.

Go get a snack. Maybe there's 20 minutes of credits. Well, you have to sit around for the post credits, though. Thanos makes an appearance. Oh. Oh. Pretty lady. This is fun.

I would have had a love to this. This is fun. I want to be in a musical movie, like, so bad, dude. I want to be in. Me too, but I can't sing. Oh, car boys. Uh-oh, a bunch of scary car boys. What is this the foot clan?

What is that happening right now? Do they go to school? Do they have homes? I don't think so. What's going on? Yes. Are these just like, oh, this is around the time of stomp, though.

Remember when stomp was here? So stomp. Yeah. So stomp. How many times have you guys seen Stomp? I think I've seen it twice. I wish, man. I only saw it once.

I would love to see Stomp. Stomp. By the time I feel like... Oh, you would love it. Yeah, I feel like by the time I got to New York, I was like, fucking Stomp. And I was like, anyone would have got to stomp? Oh, Stomp is so much fun. Yeah.

Why are they tiny boys? Ew. Why is it them but tiny? Why are they tiny boys all of a sudden? Ew, why are they tiny boys? What? This is so crazy. Why did they shrink into tiny boys?

I wish I was in the movie. Do you imagine seeing this in the theater? Now they're big again. Why would I see it in the movie theater? Oh, that's cool. Look at that tire work. Yeah, these tire choreos tricks are cool. Yeah, got flips.

I'm loving it. It's like make them laugh, you know? This is great. It's like the basketball secret musical number from the first one. I love them trying to make musical numbers like badass for the guys in the audience. Yes, totally. A masculine. It's so funny.

Corio. I was very into that. Yeah. Man, tequila really is the great unifier. And I think it's like that is the equalizer for all people. And let's be fair. You also threw it a bong rip or two. That all affected as long.

I was clearing it out. I was getting it ready. Yeah. Yeah. I think I might follow you in the last like half hour or whatever. We got to pass the halfway mark. Yes. Yes.

I'll get too tired too early. Because if people are trying to like listen to this while they're going around during the day during their errands and we're just gradually becoming too high to talk. Well, I hope not. Hopefully they're watching the movie. along with us or else. I don't know if it makes any sense. I don't think it does.

There's so few horror musicals, right? There's just like Sweeney Todd. There's Carrie the musical. That's kind of cool. Is that good though, or is that just like another musical adaptation? Yeah, it's fun. And Heather's the musical.

Heather's all the ones Riverdale. These are all adaptations. I mean, I want, can we get, we got to get something, a new IP would be fun. Yeah. That could be cool. I can see that. I should try that.

I should try my hand at that after I'm done with dogs. Technically, Rocky Horror picture shows. I was going to say, wouldn't we put Rocky Horror? We'll put that in the category. Yeah, yeah,

we'll throw it in there. It's camp. It's done kind of, not at all, but it's camp. We'll count it. We'll count it. It has all the horror elements.

And Little Shop of Horrors is also. Oh, and Little Shop of Hors is sci-fi horror. Why is she sorry? She didn't get into Stanford. It's because of it. Yeah, because,

Our pay was fucking with her application. Unbelievable. Oh, or no, she's sorry because he's going to a different school. Ah. That was always so awkward this time. If you were with someone and you were going to different schools, you just had to be like, well, that was the beauty of not being in a relationship.

I was like, I don't do your shit. Yeah. Yeah, me neither. I was so excited. I remember I had this, like, fantasy the night before I left for college of like, I'm going to like hook up. up with like this hot, blonde, like, FSU, which never happened, by the way. But like, I was like, it's going to have.

I think it's like, sky was the limit. My whole life was going to change. God, reinventing yourself. How many times you get to do that? I know. The optimism. You only get to reinvent yourself like four times in life unless you're fucking, you know, a bad person.

Yeah. The optimism and hope that I felt upon getting my one foot out the door my senior year and being ready to go for college. Was it like, did it turn out? to be that for you or was it disappointing? No, it was great. I was so happy. I mean, I had a great time in high school. I had fantastic friends and, like, as much as I, like, complain about my child that I had, like,

a totally fun, lovely, you know, my hometown was very small, but also great in many ways and whatever. So I had a really fantastic arts program in high school. I did so much theater and I was so lucky. But I was just, like, you know, I just, like, I was angsty and I wanted, like, more and I wanted bigger things. I was so happy when I got to college. I definitely had no romantic anything going on and through high school.

So that was a huge deficit. That was a void that I wanted to fill. And I was so, I was screaming about this early because everyone this morning was like, I forget what I was talking about, but I was definitely playing the heel and everyone was reminding me a lot about how I went to private school and how privileged I was growing up. And the one thing I said about it, though, I was like, I graduated with 90 people and just imagine being typecast.

in sixth grade and going your entire middle in high school, like shoved into a box of who you were. There are a bunch of people that have like 20 people in their graduating class that they've been typecast since they were in elementary school. Yeah, it sucks. Like, it sucks. Good Lord.

If you look around and like no one wants to date you and like they decide you're this thing, you're just that thing and you just don't have any options, you know. I can't believe. people, most people go to a high school, they don't, will never, in a million years, know everyone in their high school, you know? Yeah. And like, that's awesome, because you could like meet somebody out of the blue that you, you know, like or whatever. Because I always think, from my, from my time teaching, like, I've taught in big middle schools and small middle schools, and I'm, like, really

pro small middle school, because it's just like, if you can get everybody, like, caring about each other, you know, and invested in each other, they take better care of each other, you know? That is true. Small schools, I always thought were kind of good for that, but you're right, Holden. It's like, if you feel trapped by the time you're in seventh grade, then it's really hard to get out of that, you know. And you're like, there were only like a couple of new people in a, every year.

Yeah, right, right. It just was so stagnant. Yeah, and people don't always take good care of each other, even if it's a small community. And first of all, I believe in the dream of this moment of this movie right now. I know. It was funny for me. it was incredibly disappointing freshman year.

And then everything got good sophomore year. But I had to get through. I had to deal with like everything not being that for me for the first year of college. It just being so bummed out and being like, oh my God, we're just going to do it again. We're just going to be like upset and like not, you know, reinvented. I was still very unlucky in love almost all through college. I didn't. I got a boy in my senior year.

Yeah. But I was just so happy with friends. I was just so happy. I was like just thrilled. Was there a particular boy in college? What was his name? I mean, I pined after many boys. I didn't get out of my pining.

You know, I pined in high school. I pined in college. MJ must have pined like the best of them. Yes. Classic piner. You know, my problem was I didn't feel confident until in college. In high school, I got confident, like, I felt good at trumpet and I felt good at improv, but I did not feel hot. Yeah, you didn't feel hot being good at those two things.

You didn't feel attracted to any point? Yeah, no shit. Let's not bring apart that sense. Did you play the trumpet while making up annoying characters on a stage or were they separate? How did you miss out on all that lovemaking? I didn't feel good. In college, I felt less good at improv because I was with all these older, funnier kids. But then my sophomore year, I found my confidence again.

But it wasn't until my sophomore year of college that I felt hot. And it wasn't until later that I actually was hot. But I started feeling hot. As long as you feel hot, that gets you so far. Yeah. But it was a lot. In retrospect, I'm just like, yeah, that's a lot. I didn't ever feel hot, ever, like in high school or college.

And, you know, so I think that contributed to the pining. I just didn't think I could. I never went for it with anybody because I didn't think that I could, you know? I get that dude. I don't think I felt hot until I was like 21. Yeah. Like for the first time.

Yeah. And that wasn't like, that didn't stay, you know. Right, right. Yeah. I don't know if I'd ever say felt hot. But, but that first year of New York, when I was like just barely able to afford any food. I can't believe I ever didn't.

realize like you're skinny right now. You just are. Like, enjoy it. Have fun with it. You know? Live it up. I wish I could go back and be like, hey, man, you're in the best shape of your life. Like, you should really embrace that and dress for that and like know that. But was there a moment. Like for me, there was like a moment. Like my friend, it was my best friend. And he told me he was like, you are hot. You can act like you're hot. And for some reason, I listened to him. And I was like, oh, he's right. And like, from then on, I was like, I can go into parties. And if there's a boy that I think is hot, I can, like, flirt with him.

And I never felt that before, you know. That's awesome. What was that college or New York? Yeah, my sophomore year of college. Like, it was my friend told me. And I think it took a little while for it to sink in, but I was just like, he just sat me down and told me. And I was like, it made all the difference.

It's so funny how many people need to hear that, right? Need someone to just tell them that. There's so many people like that. And I still remember what? I was probably 19 when he told me and I'm 37 now and I still remember it. And I could have used that. Yeah. I was someone that told me that because I think I always felt like the friend zone guy.

Yeah. Like always carried that for the longest time until I started kind of going wild, you know, sophomore year college and stuff. I started kind of going wild. But I still always would like find that crush, that unrequited love to keep me in that mental place. Yeah, right. Right. Because when you get in the habit of it, you're like, oh, no, my habit is to pine, you know. Right. Yeah. I haven't done any pining this book. Like, what is going on? Wow. They're in love. It's beautiful.

But it was, you know, a lot of my friends did find love in high school. And actually, a number of my friends are still married to people that they met in high school. And I really, like, felt, I was so scared that I just, you know, So many years without ever having a relationship that I was just so afraid it would never happen for me, you know. Yeah. But I'm, and I'm sure it's awesome if you did meet the person you ended up with in high school person listening who did that. But I'm kind of glad that almost that didn't work out for me because I enjoyed getting that strange, smelling that eerie, you know, lifting up that dress and seeing something that. But also think of how much of that. of that too made you feel sad, you know? Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

No, I think about, I have several, like, friends who are high school sweethearts, you know, married in high school. It was, like, fairly common, I would say. And then also a couple of college friends, sweethearts who married and are still together. And yeah, it's fascinating to me. And I was always very, you know, jealous and admiring of that love. And now I'm like, I live like 30 lifetimes between now and then. so the idea of being the same person now

and then it seems wild to me. I can imagine, I don't see how, but if you can grow together, that's the thing. If you both give each other's space to grow together, that's so beautiful. Yeah, and I do, there is a part of me that does find it incredibly, like, romantic still to be like, you're still with this person, yeah.

It's beautiful. Like, what if Zach Hutchins, Zach, whatever, Efron and Vanessa Hutchins were still together, you know? Because also when you, when you, go like hang out with a high school friend or something, it brings you back there.

So could you imagine just every day waking up with someone that has had that whole time with you into college, into, you know, is so. And like I've enjoyed reinventing myself, but also what an anchor it must be, right, to be with somebody who you've known for a really long time and who's always known you, you know, the way that I'm like. Who knows every version of you.

Right, right, right. Yeah. But also this is sad. because she's going to college and she has to leave him. But where is she going to college? I thought that her application got sabotaged. I know. I guess it didn't.

Whatever. Nothing matters. I guess it just fucking didn't, man. I will say, too, that this is actually my get me a little bit here at the end because I mean, that was such a big crazy. I mean, it is for everybody. Like, that's so insane when you leave high school. You feel, you know it too.

You feel it so heavily. Yeah. How big of a change that. is. I just remember my mom still brings it up. She brings it up a lot about when she dropped me off and she's like, I cried for a week straight. And she's like, well, how upset were you?

And I think it was so funny because I remember. You just slamming fucking beer balls. Just hammered, partying. Like the second, I remember her driving off, I was sad for about 25 minutes. And then I realized my life was my own. Yeah, just getting your own life and space and everything. Unfortunately, like my, again, my freshman year's situation was kind of dog shit. So it was a bit of a slow burn, but especially sophomore year.

When I moved into my own apartment, I mean, I got naked and danced around the living room. I mean, I was so, I couldn't believe I had that in space. Oh, yeah, no, I shared a one room place with three girls for a year and I still was tap dancing on my way out. Totally. Isn't that crazy the dorm thing? It's so, looking back, I'm like, oh, my God. Can you imagine that we lived that way? But honestly, it's so smart, though, because could you imagine living alone at that?

Yeah. If you immediately lived alone. No, it's being with other people that are going through the same fucking thing that you're going through. And so you're able to talk about shit and deal with it together, even though, like, I was very different from the three girls that I lived with. Because I was an honors dorm and they were all three were so wrong. All right, T, girls. But also, hopefully you learn maybe a couple of better habits. Because, like, you don't know, I didn't know how to do everything.

I mean, I did get roofied at a frat party and almost got assaulted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost got bed on it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bed on it. That's Kellan Maloney, murder fist of, of. Oh, wow, really? Kellen Maloney.

He saved you? I had, he was the only person. I only had Henry's number and I had Kellyn's number. and we had barely know each other and I called him and I was like and like he's like where are you? Where are you? And he figured out where I was and he came and he fucking saved me.

Oh my God, that makes me. Yeah. And that was the beginning of our friendship of 20 years. Oh, that's so sweet. I love Callan. Callan of course does the money pit every week with us and he's they're doing a really cool D&D stream on Drew's Twitch channel. Everyone check out the rooster on Twitch. it's really fun.

My roommate, man, my freshman year roommate, it was such a per, I got so lucky. She was so, she was like a global citizen. She was Baha'i, so she had lived in like 10 different countries. Whoa. And traveled around, like her parents were these like Baha'i, like, I don't, like, it's like this, you know, tiny little religion, but they like traveled the world. And she didn't drink smoke or.

have pre-barrel sex. And I was like, I am here to drink, smoke, and have free marital sex. But we were just like the perfect match. Like we just had so much fun together. And she was like, when I saw that my roommate was from Iowa,

I was picturing you wearing like a farm dress with pig tails. It was so, and we just like, we just loved each other. That's awesome. I was so lucky. But I never had to worry about like getting sex aisle, you know. My freshman year roommate, I hated.

I ended up, we eventually ended up trading, and I ended up living with my friend in the apartment complex that I was in. It was dorm style apartments. It was weird. But yeah, I hated. My roommate, he only wanted to, like, listen to the same Nas album and play Madden, and he would get, like, Gumbie's pizza, like, all the time, and he just ate, like, an animal. He was just so, like, slovenly and just gross and, like, not fun because he would, was hard.

He was from Jersey. You know what I mean? It's the kind of guy where it's like he can't express joy or fun because that would be like, I guess, gay or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, just live, dude. You don't have to front this gangster.

He's upset and he's angsty and he goes to the high school and he puts on his basketball jersey to really decide does he want to go to his father's alma mater? He still hasn't decided where he's going to school. Boy, all your friends have already left for college. You've got to figure this out. This, though, I did. In high school, I felt it very unrelatable to the people who were like, I can't leave my glory days here, you know.

Like, I feel like a lot of people were like. That's why I'm really glad my glory days weren't in. I have a friend who I'm sure she feels differently now, but like she was like my best years for middle school. Yeah. I'm so happy that's not my truth. Yeah, that would be hard. College was way more fun to have my best years at than fucking middle school.

Can we just talk about this ridiculous? Zach Furn is in a gym, there's a strobe light going and there's about 100 basketball. There's so many basketballs. But he stresses angst. They're digital. Also, is this in 3D? Because that was definitely, it feels like a 3D. Yes, it does.

Oh, the floor is sitting. There's obviously a bigger budget. in this movie. Yeah, this is fun. Yeah, I gotta say, I'm luckin this too. I'm enjoying this movie. I am too. Again, I don't know if it's the tequila or if it's the movie,

but I have a smile on my face. Yeah, dude, I'm rocking out then. He's really good at parkcoring. Yeah, he's really good at it. We should really count how many times he jumps in these movies. He jumps so much. Drink every time he jumps. It's like a way he shows how badass he is.

They're like, you should do a cool jump right here. So that'll show how masculine you are in this very girly musical film. That was a nice little spin, like a little tour. Oh, yeah. But can we talk about how every song does sound about 85% like the same song as before? Yay. Oh, yeah. Oh, they all, the songs themselves, I'm not saying, are that good.

But the set pieces, the dancing. Yeah. And, you know, at least the energy of the songs are fun. And he is selling it. He is actually, I actually am here to say that Zach Affron is doing a great job. Dude, he keeps having to do these and like every movie has to have a bed on it. It's got to be so exhaust where it's just him angrily pontificating about his future. Oh, big jump.

Everybody drinks. Big jump. Everybody drank. Huge jump. Everyone drink. I can't believe that he would later go on to lose half his space in a fountain. In a fountain accident. If you're going to have a fountain in your living room, don't jog.

Like, don't jog inside your house. Like, it's just that simple. Is it him singing or no? God, he jumps so much. He just did another big jump. All right, yeah, if you're watching along retroactively, you have to take a sip every time he jumps. Wow. Whoa.

Yeah. That was, man, that was a lot of feeling. That's teen boy angstom. right there. She doesn't know what to do. It's confused. If only we can teach teen boys to sing when they're upset. I know right rather than go to fisticuffs.

Oh, why is this lady here, though? It's a little weird. She's watching him sing, Holden. But what? Now, do you think, like, and I'm assuming, right, like, that musical number made a lot of, like, girls going through it, like, really into it, right? They were, like, really hot and bothered.

by that probably like do you think and also think about like all the drama teachers when there is when it's the week before a show that drama teacher is going to be there's a reason why she's there because she's because the lead is now gone and charpe has to play the lead so she's got shit to figure out i love how seriously high school or even middle school like drama teachers take the school play every yeah oh yeah they're all flustered we don't have the choreography we don't have Oh, then you are talking to me. I put on an elementary school play for my entire adult teaching career. And I was...

And you just turned into a nightmare. All the other teachers knew they were like, oh, that's that time. Like, I was like... I was like the teacher who was, like, famous for being, like, pretty patient and, like, not yelling at the kids and ever losing my ship. But then come springtime, I'd be like, it's play season, people. Get it together. And I loved it. It's like Amy Poller in a wet under...

American summer, like, when she, like, freaks or freak it out, whatever. Day by day. Day by day. I love it. Man, he's still so wet. He's very wet in this movie. Yeah, he's always glistening.

Oh, my God, she's at college. Why is she at college? It's spring. I know, wait, isn't it? I think that she's very smart, so she got in in this, like, yeah, I think that she's got, like, For like a class to go in early, it seems like. Right.

That is a thing for sure where you get to take, you're in a special program and you get to take some early college court, like entry level college courses. Yeah, they're fudgeted. Oh, she's trying to kiss on Zach Efron. His heart is broken, Sharpay. I do miss the like, God, I miss that backstage horniness of the high school play. Yeah.

Fuck. It was so fun. It was so good. And I was so good. Hey, you guys know it. We've talked about this, how good I am at Green Rooms. I developed that at the high school way. I was amazing at the backstage. That's where I thrived.

It was like I refound myself. And that's where I would save it all up. And then I would go back there and just have the time of my life because the rest of the time, it was like, wait out, nay, now. You know what I'm marching and step and like. eating gray water for lunch, you know, whatever it was. You're just describing what it felt like to be in school. You're not describing the musical you were in.

You're describing. No, no, no. I was like, that was my day to day. But then I'd go to the play and I'd be backstage and just laughing, joking, get touch, groping, laughing, joking and groping, man. Joking and gropin. That sounds like quite a high school experience. Oh, we had some real pretty ladies who like to do the play.

This is the thing. theater, every kid should do theater because it really is so sexually charged, you know. It is a great outlet. We just got, we need to talk. Uh-oh. Yeah, I was going to say, if you were a boy and you were struggling so hard with that kind of stuff, try it want, do the play, man, holy shit, it will change everything. Because it's a totally different dynamic.

The ecosystem completely changes in the backstage. To be a straight boy in theater is to be in a good position for sure. Such a good spot. I mean, you have to be performed, though. You can't be backstage crew. That's different. You're not doing anything. No one's touching anybody.

Everyone's bitter. That's why I love that episode of Penn 15, the theater episode. God, the theater episodes of Penn 15. So good. One is the performer. One is the stage crew. And that dynamic is ex-so. They nailed it so hard.

My brother always tells a story about, so in high school, he was a straight theater boy. and he was one of the leads in Midsummer Night's Dream, and we had a, my school had a tradition of doing classroom scenes where they would have, whatever the spring play was, they would have like, you know, some of the actors go around during the day and go into classes and do a little scene. But you can imagine a lot of the general population of the high school

was not always so psyched to have kids come in and do Shakespeare, like in the middle of, in the middle of, in the middle of the day. And so John was doing a scene from Midsummer Night's Dream with his friend. And it was two boys doing Shakespeare during a class. And in the middle of the scene, one of the kids in the audience just goes, gay. And then the two boys, John and Matt, keep going. And then another kid just goes, you're gay.

Like it was like a clarification It's like not just this is gay You are gay Yeah you are the mid The boys on the stage That is hilarious You're gay You're gay

That's so good You can't I mean Yeah That was the thing Being a straight boy who did theater in the early Oats I think you know You got called gay a lot But in exchange, you got to be around a lot of...

What was so funny, it was about is like, I'm surrounded by hot girls and we're feeling each other up as a joke. And I'm getting... You know what I mean? That was the other funny part about it. I was like, I'm hanging out with all the chicks. Yeah, it was a great place to be. By the way, Gabriella and Troy broke each other's heart just now, Jackie.

No, why are I? Oh, but he's in the tree. Oh, my God, but he's in the tree. He is in a tree. Oh, it's a prom night, but he's in a tree. Why is she wearing the same dress the entire movie? It's got to be white. Oh, it's a shirt now, not a dress.

Yeah, it's one of those shirt dresses that everyone wore back then that were weird. Yeah, really get those in the Delius catalog, couldn't you? Oh, yeah. I could never fit into the Delia's catalog. I'm sure that the Dealia's catalog was not size inclusive because I think it was probably a driving force in my own disordered eating at the Delia's catalog.

I also really, yeah, I think that to the, the, and I think this is on anybody's body type, the cinched right under the tits dress never is a good look, I feel like. Cosmo would always be like, do you have a tummy? Cinch your shit under your boobs. Why? That would make it worse.

That's kind of how, you know, I guess it depends, but that was, they really tell you to do that in Cosmo. Also, Cosmo is always telling you, do you have an apple because all your fat is in your tummy? or are you a pair because all your fat is in your ass? Your ass, you ugly. No matter what, you're an ugly fruit. Of course, I was always like, I'm both, you know, because, you know, you're 13.

Yeah, what if it's in every part of my body? Every part of my body's bad. Wow, it's prom. What a pretty prom. We definitely didn't have this. Right. Look at what this girl is wearing with the shirt underneath her dress. At least that is in a gym.

though, so that's realistic. You gotta have the stacked bleachers in the background. Uh-huh. That is nice that they did that. It's not in like a fucking mansion, you know. Yeah.

Backyard. It's not at the Biltmore House. Yeah. All of our dances were in a gym. Ours, actually, prom was at a space. Like a... Yeah, ours was at a venue. Yeah.

Ours is at a venue, yeah. I think maybe one, maybe like senior prom, junior senior prom was at like a like the college gym or maybe the college some space in one of the colleges but all the other ones

was always in a gym What do you guys think about this little memo? The fact that I know that they kiss I feel like it feels like a real kiss because I know that they kiss off camera they actually kiss off camera no open mouth

yeah I wish that he fucking stuck his tongue down at the rope yeah I thought too everyone was really hot this movie because he like fingers are at some point. You know that seeing the movie. Yeah, the finger blast. Yeah, isn't there a finger blast on a roller coaster?

Yeah. This is very cute that he showed up at Stanford. All right, we got 30 minutes left. Is that mean we start smoking weed? Did you just put a bunch of edibles in your brown? That was like a huge edible. That was like an intense edible. That was unbelievable.

Listen, it's not even the king get before this movie's over. Yeah, exactly. You're just going to turn this off and be so scared to, like, say good night to your kids. They're all, listen, it's 10 p.m. I'm in a law. Yeah, your kids are asleep. Like, I have no responsibilities. I'm alone in a law office.

Yeah, get high, dude. And I've stopped. Remember the time we did the scream stream and then I had to walk home by myself? It was really scary. That's the only risk. But I'm not going to be scared walking home. by myself after high school musical three. Are you sure?

Yeah, I'm just going to be walking walking through the streets of Brooklyn going, bed on it, bed on it, bed on it, bed on it. I love that you wouldn't sing a song from this high school musical movie. I can't hold it. None of them are memorable enough. Yeah, I will say that's the one thing with this one

is there was no highly memorable. But to be fair, the only reason why bet on it is memorable is because they say the same thing for three and a half minutes. It's so nauseating. Why do you keep just screaming it? And again, we were so upset and we weren't paying attention to the movie and then we got to bet on it. And we were all just through all three of us just like, bed on it, bed on it. And that's why I'm going to say, hey, cheers dies.

We're all in a better place. Yeah, we're all in a much better place. We got a whole new tour coming up. We're so saying. I'm so excited for the second. I'm packing my bong currently. Go for it. I'll get my vape after.

I'll grab my vape then. Hold on. Cheers, you guys. Cheers. Bet on that. Reserve for Juilliard. Juilliard.

Giuliard. Juliard. What he said he's never. Oh, so that's his whole thing. He wants to get into Juilliard, but also that would be like upsetting his father. Right. Right.

His head. Meanwhile, have we even seen his dad? entire movie. What do we care what his dad was? He has come back. They've had some like, Dodd scenes. There was,

I think there was one or two. Oh, we're getting, we're getting a fucking musical, bros. Look at this pianist's outfit. We did it. We waited three movies. Wow, it really is a musical.

She's the one. She's the ace in the pocket hole over there. They are really trying to push their love. And that pisses me off. Yeah, are they, is that what's going on? Or are they just, Or is this like, we're both gay, and now we're going to be close buddies for the rest of high school so we can get through this together.

So I definitely saw plenty of that go down. Gotta be. Like, right? Because they're not saying they're romantic. They're just like buddies, right? Or they really trying to sell it. I know, but this is also like negative PG. So, you know, that's as close to being in a relationship as they can get.

We just saw them lock. No, no. They'd be kissing and stuff. Zach Efron kissed what's her stupid name. Yeah, but I think there's a longing that we, that you're missing here. They're at least queer coded, though. So they must be like, they must be just, I don't know, it's very hard for me to figure out what's going on with these two.

And they just put a fake basketball court on the stage. So we cannot leave the basketball gym. Why? Get us out of the basketball gym. We don't need to be there. Yes, they love it because it's the basketball players. It's a musical about basketball? By the way, this kind of insults me because the whole thing about the high school play

was that you got away. The basketball team was all, and the football team were always over glorified at school. And the musical or whatever was your one night to fucking shine. And now they're like, nope, bring in the basketball players. I don't know. I always wanted more intermingling, you know. Yeah, it would have been cool.

I think I've talked about this last time we watched this, but I am so jealous of the grade just below me. Because I had friends in the grade just below me. And they were like, yeah, we all like, it along. The jocks are really cool. They're really nice. Like, we all, we all party together. We have a great time together. I was so pissed. Oh, it's a reprise. Nice. Oh. Love it.

I guess I want it all is the bed on it of this movie. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. I was hoping it was saying bed on it. He just repeats, I want it all over and over again. Oh, my, okay, so you know how, all right. So in this dance scene, all the girls are girl dance outfits like with high boots and short booty shorts and he's wearing like a boy dance outfit and when I was a kid I took a dance class and I was so excited to dance tap dance and all of the girls had to wear like girl dance outfits and there was one boy he was like the son of the dance teacher who got to wear like a dandy boy dance outfit no not fair I was so jealous so yeah of course at the time I didn't understand that and now I frequently sometimes

I'm like, huh, interesting that I just was really jealous of the one boy dancer. The one boy, you just wanted to wear the boy dancer. The only thing I, main issue I have with these movies, I think, is there's like such a vague sense of conflict. Because even at this point, they kind of want you to like Ashley Tisdale's character. You know what I mean? Like, there's just no conflict. They keep the stakes so low, right?

So low. What do you mean? What's the conflict? She's at Stanford. and she's not the lead in the musical. I don't even think she cares. She said Stanford. She went to college.

Yes, she went to college. Yeah, the villains are so cartoonishly villainish. Like the Ashley Tisdow character is like not even remotely a well-developed villain. No. Well, at this point, I think she's like charming to so many people that they're not even trying to make her villainous. They're like, you remember her and you love her. The stand-in, the young boy. The traumatized boy isn't on stage.

He's in trauma. He can't. Our lesbian pianist is also the conductor of the pit orchestra for some of that. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot on her shoulders. My God, I've got a bit of a lesbian penis. Oh, shit! He shows that.

Yes, I would have fallen in love with this boy if I was. This boy reminds me of good Charlotte Gabriel from Milf Manor, though. He does. Except, again, 11-year-old me would be into that. but 35-year-old me very much not into that. A lot of peacocking, lot of nagging. Perfect mix of the two, you know. But also like very like,

like gender fluidity. Yeah, he's wearing a pink, sparkly hat. Yeah. And for 2008. Yeah. I needed some renewed musical motivation. This makes me want to get back into the musical writing and everything. Oh, God, are they going to halfway?

through pitch hitter switch and go in as the leads? Oh my God. I don't even know what... How does that... How much money have their parents spent on flights in the last two weeks, I ask you? Who's this British bitch? Her assistant. And now she's playing Chau Pais and Chaupe is upset.

Wow. Look at Jackie's being the only one. paying attention after all this time. Yeah. I'm kind of paying attention. Yeah. You're good at it. Kind of paying attention.

You were good at it. Oh my God. She's such a bitch. You can tell she's a bitch because she blinks every 2.2 seconds. Yes. And because she has a brittar shaks on time. What a bit. See, I'm telling you they did set her up to be.

Okay. So that wasn't even me. That's not even them being bad at it. That's they did set her up. up to be not they're bad at it, bad at it, bad at it, bad at it, bad at it. Oh shit, pitch hit her. Why are they even, but why is this happening? Is the, is the gay boy helping sabotage the musical?

Maybe. Or maybe they just knew they were so much better than the understudies. He's played, he's just hammering on the piano. That, oh, they're the Julio. Well, that is Troy Boatten. The gay boy's having a hard time is he tried meth for the first time at a house party the night before.

I get it. I get through it. He's trying to get through the night. Start doing the poppers too, loosen up that asshole. It's not going to work. She's going to leave you for someone at Stanford. That is how it goes.

I appreciate that they're doing this whole like going to college. they did not do a very good job of coming up with a good villain. There's no villain. Kind of it's the assistant, but like, she didn't even... No, the villain is the circumstance. The villain is time. External. The villain is the passage of time.

An external conflict. We love to see it. I just don't understand because this seems like the end and there are 23 minutes. You know, one time there was 20 minutes of credits and maybe that's going to happen again. Also, I just... I just want to see MJ at the play being like, do it again. The corns and the pumpkins are not, no way.

They don't know the steps. I mean, we've been over the step. How many times? Three steps. I was. Parfe, parfe, parfe, chante de lae. Over again. Don't cry.

There's no crying in elementary school plays. I know. It was me. But the play was always good. So isn't it worth it? I'm sure not. No, we had a good time. But, you know, I was, it's hard to teach elementary school kids and even middle school kids.

Yeah, rehearsal sucks. Practicing for a play sometimes sucks. The most fun part is when you're being loud doing what you're not supposed to do, you know. Yeah. Actual. No, rehearsal sucks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're eight. You're not meant to do the same thing over and over and over. I think we have enough. I think we're finally towards the end enough that I can start hitting this bomb. Yeah, if this isn't the finale, I'm going to fucking jump off a bridge. Like, this is clearly building up to... No, I mean, there's still 22 minutes. We got to start a pool on how long the credits are.

They got to be at least 10 minutes. Ain't no way. They have to be at least 10 minutes long. No way, there's 20 more minutes of movie happening at this point. There's like one of those more visual credits happening at the one... Oh, shit, Sharpie! Yeah, this movie ends in like 10 minutes. The budget these departments have, mind you,

all the plays that I ever put on is a theater teacher where in New York City public schools were just like in the cafeteria, you know? Oh, yeah. This is a clever dance sequence that they're like doing fun dance together, but they're competing with each other, but they're like also doing it insane. This is a better movie than the other two. Yeah, this is definitely a better movie than the other two. I can agree on that.

For sure. I feel like too, every time you guys say that it's like, there's a very noticeable production thing that's like, yeah, they had way more money. Way more money. Yeah.

Sinking stage and like all this crazy like lighting effects and stuff. Yeah, it's so much. The, also the, I would even say everything's about like the costume design is better for a lot of this stuff, I feel like. Yeah, it just looks better.

And then being a little bit older. too. I think it really helps. They're all really dialed in. You know, like, God, did you imagine being that young and playing a character like that for like three different movies? I know. And then having the rest of your adult life be shaped by it.

Hold on. There's like an impromptu graduations. Everybody in the middle of this high school musical. I identify so deeply with the wacky theater. teacher. Oh, yeah. How does that make you feel? Do you think you need to talk about that in therapy?

No, it's good. I would be very happy to end up just like this lady, you know? Hell yeah. And have you ever made a child cry with your, let's just say, like, direction approach? Or do you think? No, I think that the reason why everybody thought that I was especially intense around play season was because I was usually very, like, calm and patient. Much more a calm and patient.

teacher than a calm and patient parent, honestly. I anticipated being a calm and patient parent because I could be that way as a teacher. But I had a lot of moments as a teacher where I also lost my shit. Don't get me wrong. But no, I don't think that I ever made a kid cry. I hope not. I mean, the kids would always want to do the play here after year. I think we have fun.

There's nothing funnier to me than like that dynamic. Like, it just, the Amy Pollard's character in Wet Hot American City is so funny. I've chosen basketball, but I've also chosen theater. Wow! Yes, standing ovation. A double major who knew he could do both. You can major in basketball? Offers me both.

Why are you talking like that? Is this still the same musical? You don't talk like that. Why are you talking? I see. It is a literal high school musical. The whole musical that they are doing is just high school in a microcosm. It took us three movies to get here.

All of a sudden he's talking like he's King Arthur or something. Right? It is high school theater voice to be fair. All of a sudden he's like gallant and like noble. Like, oh, what are you talking about? Holden. Yeah, I don't even know what to think anymore. So I kind of feel like it's very neon genesis Evangelian in the sense that like it's breaking.

it's breaking the barriers of like, is this, what even is this? Are we watching the anime? Are we watching a boy's dream? Are we watching a musical? Are we watching high school? Just like the Dionysus Evangelion. This very, very similar notes to the series finale.

All he knows is basketball. But also theater. So he's going to sing while he shoots a hoop. He just walked off the stage into the gym. The audience is still there. Sir, the show is still going on. You would be. beside yourself.

Yes, if I was the director. Troy, what are you doing? The show is back going on. I love to see MJ run into the basketball court right now. I'd be like, what is, what are you doing? What are you just walked out? There's a whole play going on. Here's what I'll say.

Listen, there was plenty of times as a teacher, moments as a teacher where I wasn't proud and where I wasn't as patient as I wanted to be. But also, there was some times where I like nailed the pep talk. You know, I would take someone aside and I get it. You're fighting with her. She used to be your best. friend and today at lunch you guys had a fight and now you can't talk to each other anymore.

But I need you to go out there and I need you to sell it. You know, so I do. Yes. Let it heal you. Dude, I remember getting a couple of like, yeah, intermission like, oh, fuck, the director's pissed. We've been fucking up. And now that I think back, I'm like, you were a grown man.

We were children. We had like a bad night of this play. Why are you so upset? We didn't give a fuck. You know what I mean? It's not like, I don't know. It's because they want you to succeed, Holden. Yeah.

Or at least hopefully. There was definitely a part of me that wanted to fail, so I feel bad for him. I was like very, I had a great high school theater teacher who like 100% shaped my entire life, you know. So I would strive to be like her as a theater teacher. Mine was great in some ways, but not great in others. Yeah. And he definitely had a fucking anger problem. Mine was very mean, but also we were very good.

Right. You guys were like the evil theater troupe that we have to beat in the competition. Yeah, we're the evil ones. Yeah, I love how you were just really good at high school. Yeah, yeah. You were like a rocky villain theater troupe, you know what I mean? You were like the Friday night's team. Yes.

Of theater, right? Like you have the, except Coach Taylor was nice. So you didn't have a coach team. No, my theater teacher was not fuckable. Yeah. What happened? Wait, why is everybody excited? They're graduating.

Okay. Oh, that guy with a bad hair is his dad? Yeah, that's his dad. And he accepts the fact that he's not going to his alma mater. And he's going to play basketball and he's also going to do theater, which is almost absolutely impossible. But you know what? Good for him to have a little bit of hope.

I didn't even think about how that's actually completely impossible. than in high school. Yeah, I wonder if there's, I'd have to look it up. There's anybody who, like, got a basketball scholarship and ended up doing a ton of, I'm sure it exists.

People did a ton of theater as well. Whoa. Go. What animal was it? I don't think, did I ever do a ceremony? I guess I did high school. I definitely didn't do college.

I didn't walk. It was like, why? You lucky bastard. I was forced to. Yeah, I was like, why would I do that? It seems awful. My parents are the, same way, they're like, don't, we don't bother with that got to stop.

I was forced to. It was hours long. Yeah, right. I was hopped up on Adderall and trucker speed. And then I was crashing down from a high at the end. Did you party like really hard the night before or something? Oh, yeah. I was out until like seven o'clock in the morning.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing that's so funny. But anytime you see very young people doing something really important is that like half of them are hungover, you know, hungover. This is kind of a by the numbers dance

here at the end. And the billowy gowns, I don't know, really works for this. I bet it was very annoying to dance with, though. Yes. I gotta say, I am here to tip my hat to Zach Efron. He really sells the shit out of this. They all, I think Ashley Tisdell does a great job

with her character too. Yeah. Yeah, Ashley Tisdell. And in general, I mean, this will look back at all three. I think I have actually a lot of respect for Ashley Tisdale. I hate to say this, but the gay kid, he's good. Ryan.

Ryan, what's his real actor name? How come he didn't go on to, did he go on to do it? His name is Lucas Gray Beal. I'm sure he works. Like, he's too talented to not just work. But I don't know. How come he's not a household name? Guys, I have to pee so bad, but I can't miss anything.

Look at what's happened to me. Now I'm invested. How do I not have to pee? We've been doing this for two hours. He doesn't have a great career. He doesn't. He does not? No.

Oh, no. Maybe, well, he also might have, uh, if you get into it that young, you also get to make the choice to walk away and go do something else of your life. You don't have to fucking be an actor. Oh, he did a lot of voice acting. He did a lot of voice acting. Oh, even better. That's great.

That's good. Better quality of life. Yes. That's actually great. Yeah. Oh, this is cool. I just said that because like all of it's like the IMDB. It seemed like it was it, but then you go underneath and.

it's all the voice acting. So he's been, he's fine. He's doing great. Yes, got the brass in there. Got the strings. Yeah, man. Where's my high school orchestra movie? Let's make that next. I know. High school band would be a great musical. That would be a great movie, actually. That's kind of a little Sing Street. What I love about Sing Street, it's a kid in high school who is bullied at school and he's like having a hard time at home with his family. and he just sees this beautiful girl who's like a little bit older than him and out of his league and she's like, I'm a model and he's like,

well, you should be in my band's music video and then he has to go form a band. Oh, that's great. And it's set in the 80s so it's all like post-punk like... You would really like it, MJ. It's all like the cure and stuff like that

that all the music's based on but it's just about a group of kids like forming a band. It's so good. Holden explained it to me like that and I was like, all right. And then I watched it, I was like, oh, no, this is amazing. No, I understand why.

I mean, but also you haven't seen once. So, I mean, do yourself a favor and watch once in the next couple days. Once we'll knock your socks off. Once we'll blow you away. But so did this. Iiscoll musical. Look, we are almost at the end and we've got 11 minutes of credit. Jump one final time.

Yeah, jump one more time. And now he's always in the air in our hearts and our minds. How beautiful is that? Oh, no, he landed. mind they landed them. It's still going. I thought it was done. Still going.

I think it's done. Yeah, but well, we have kind of a soft credits before our hard credits, so we kind of have to watch those a little bit. What is this? Yoki eggs? Like, I just feel like it's too much.

Yeah, why are we zooming in on everyone's faces? I don't want this. It's too sincere, high school musical. The whole thing is sincere. You don't need to end it. I love it because they did it. It's the three. movies and it's over.

Could you imagine them too? I know. For them, that is nice for them. They must be like, holy shit. I do up their friends. This is the problem though. What's up to my boy, Kenny Ortega? When you do this shit in high school, you know, it's like a fun bonding experience.

But when you are famous, it's probably like comes with a lot of trauma. Did Kenny Ortega do dirty dancing, actually? I know I made that reference earlier, but I think he did. I know he did. He did hocus pocus, right? That's what it was. I just saw a giant cockroach guys. Ew!

Welcome to New York. Thank God. He happened at the end of the beginning. I think he may have done like choreography on. He did newsies? Yeah, dude. No shit, really? Yeah, yeah, totally.

He did a 2014 version of dirty dancing. Oh, that's what it. No, no, and dirty dancing. dancing. He did the original choreography. Oh, the choreography, not directed. Only choreography. He also choreographed a Ferris Bueller's Day Off so that

iconic parade sequence. Wow. Damn, what a career. Yeah, he's had an amazing career. Also, I can't believe you didn't mention this. He did the choreography. What's the choreography in St. Elmo's Fire? Oh, my God. I don't know. Is there dancing? Is there like a dance scene? I don't love the movie

St. Elmo's Fire. I love the song. Oh, I thought you like, I thought it was tied to the love of the movie. No, I've only seen the movie once and it's actually kind of, it's very sad. Yeah, yeah. You're talking about Ferris Bueller,

Newsies, and high school musical three. What a journey. Yeah. And he does a lot of concert tours. He did, for one, Michael Jackson, he did share,

Gloria Stefan. Can I also just say these bloopers are very bad. Yeah. Yeah, we were really starved for behind the scenes back in the day. What movie had the best bloopers? Because I used to love the bloopers that at the end of a movie. Me too.

But I don't think that it was because they were good. I think it was because we didn't like see actors being real, you know? Right. So bloopers were fun for that reason. Sharpay's dog boy, manly little pickles Ortega. Oh, so it's getting Ortega's dog. Yeah. Which is pretty cute.

Do you have to go kill that cockroach, M.J.? I have to, well, it's interesting you say it because I have to pee and I have to avoid the massive cockroach I just saw. What will I do? And also I have to, you know, continue to be on the show until we end this episode.

I don't think we need to watch all of these horrible. I think we have to watch all these bloopers. I don't know what you guys talking about. I don't think we need to watch another eight minutes of bloopers. Is the episode over? Can I piss? Or should I leave you two to talk whilst I piss

and come back in the night? I'll report back. You are free to leave and we'll go up a P and we'll wrap it up. I'll wrap up the. I'll be back. If I don't come back, it's because a cockroach ate me. Yeah, yeah.

Just real quick, get the P out and then we'll close it out. So Jackie, I mean, I can't believe we've been through this together. High School Musical 1, high school musical 2. And now,

I mean, I hate to even say the words because it means by the end of that word, it'll just be over. Can we end it then? Does that mean we can end it? Is that mean, that this is over?

Does I mean that we can stop it? High School Musical 3. Where do you land? I mean, it sounds like you think the third one's the best one. I think the third one was the best one. Oh, I can't believe it's over. I feel like a journeyman.

I feel like what I kind of went through when I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy for the first time. Oh, is that how you feel? A little bit. I feel. It's like one of those. We laughed.

cried. I don't know whether to, yeah, part of me is like, do I just start the first one over again, like right after this? You should go do that with your wife. I think that's a really good. And just see what she thinks. Yeah, I think it's a really good way to end your night. I think you should watch all of them tonight.

Stay up. Watch all three of them and come back to me with your review. I love it. Only thing that would make it better is like maybe some T-Swift. I do think, I wish I could go help them write their songs is the only thing I would say. You think you could write best. better songs than that. For sure.

Wow. Fucking smoking weed for the first time in 10th grade. That's not one of the songs that they would use, though. I'm back. I survived. Let's close it out. MJ, favorite 10 moments from the trilogy.

I'm kidding. We gotta get out of here. We gotta get out of here. My favorite moment of tonight was how we weren't all upset when we did. Yeah, that was really nice. We're all in good moods. And that was really nice. Yeah, for sure.

I had a blast. This was it, but we'll be back with more watchalongs. Thanks so much. Have a good one, everybody. I can't believe we did it. And I can't believe you did it. Bye, guys. Bye.

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