Page 7 - Holiday Train w/ Holden McNeely

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

This week on Page 7, Jackie and MJ are reunited with Holden to talk about how that dirty fucking child from Christmas Shoes should learn to BATHE to stop illin' his mom, the tragedy of Rob and Michele Reiner, and it's time to dig into some feminine rage because Martha Stewart eats a bagel real weird. Dick Van Dyke made it 100 against his own wishes, happy bday! Holden's wearin' his cardigan as we dive into some quick Swiftie talk and share disappointment about her SILENCE, SKIMS got themselves an Ozempic Santa because of course they did, David Letterman keeps gettin' confused for Dick Van Dyke, so let that speak for his skin care routine, and Holden's enjoyin' the new Eras tour doc thing! Next we got our list and we're checkin' it twice 'cause it's a list full of NATIONAL LAMPOONS CHRISTMAS VACATION FAAAAAAAAACTS!!!!! Followed by Blindz Timez, with a Jackie's Snackies @ 1:15:30.608 and an MJ's Minute Munchies @ 1:23:09.000, until 1:25:40! All that and more on this week's Page 7! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Holden, if you interrupt me, I'm going to flip out. It's me the introduction bird. Holden, it's a solemn day. By the way, and I'm sorry about this episode. It's a solemn day. We're all sorry that you're on this episode. We're all upset that you're on this episode. And yet I am still starting with,

It was almost Christmas time. There I stood in another line Trying to buy that last gift or two Not really in the Christmas mood Standing right in front of me Was a little boy waiting anxiously Pacing around like little boys do We're not talking about the riders

And in his hand he yelled a pair of shoes Very important what he held this hand was a pair of shoes And his clothes were what an old, he was dirty from head to two. And when it came his time to pay, I couldn't believe what I heard him say. Sir, I want to buy these shoes for my barber, please. It's Christmas Eve in these shoes just a size. Don't you hurry, sir. Daddy says there's not much time.

You see, she's been sick for quite a while. No issues will make her smile. I want her to look beautiful when Mama meets Jesus tonight. I want to do look beautiful when Mama meets Jesus tonight. beautiful when my mom meets Jesus tonight. And no matter what happened horrific over the weekend, I wasn't not going to sing the song regardless of the thematic elements that you may think maybe she shouldn't have sang this song.

But I did. It was it too close. And I said, no, this has nothing to do with the tragedy that happened over the weekend. And she just said it was fine. It's different. Different tragedy. It's a different child. It's a different tragedy.

But I will connect it slightly here. I don't know if we need to. What if we don't? Is it the franting, like it's like a frantic pacing? You know you hear a song year in, year out, and then you finally notice like a new detail that makes you go, huh. Yeah. And changes it contextually for you.

This happens to me with this song every year. Now this child, a detail I didn't even think about, mother's sick in a hospital. hospital room, very sensitive, let's say, to germs and things. And a detail about the child. So dirty. So, this child is just waltzing into this hospital room. Covered in dirt and germs. Interacting with this sickly woman and we're not concerned?

And you know what I'm concerned about? And I'm looking at two fathers right here. And I'm concerned about why isn't the father that seems to possibly still be alive taking care of the child? Is he still my head? Daddy says it's not, there's not much time. Daddy's drinking. Daddy's drinking. Daddy needs some drinks to get through this ordeal.

There's not much time. I mean, wouldn't you? And regarding it more like this. So, I'm going to get her some shoes. Regarding the germs, Holden, this woman is obviously on her way out. I think that they're just like, let have that, let the germs in, you know. Yeah, but my thinking is, what if she's on death's door because of this dirty child? You think he brought the influenza that twat-dutter?

When you're really sensitive to your immunity and everything is down, and then you have a dirty child. And by the way, why is this child getting so dirty? I mean, it's, you know, what are we doing here? Aren't your children dirty? Don't they dirt about? I bathe my child. Daddy doesn't know how to give this boy a bath.

No. Mommy's in the hospital. Yeah, daddy's drunk. Daddy's too drunk to bathe the child. Honestly, it's probably for the best. This child didn't enter a store and purchase shoes. It was the 80s, I think. This child is not free.

Yeah, no, they didn't teach him how to wash himself, Holden. They taught him how to go and buy things for the home, because that's why you have children to have little soldiers to go out and do your bidding. Okay, if you're a child and you're listening to this, you have a sickly mother in the hospital, give it a bath, give it a shower before you go visit. Her immunities are down, and that's my fucking PSA. So you're talking to the dirty child. currently listening to page seven.

If you're a dirty-ass child, neglected child. Okay, okay. What's going on there? You're old enough to purchase shoes. You're old enough to not be dirty at all times. You're old enough to listen to this podcast. So I feel like at this point, go learn out of shower. Yeah, if you're a dirty child who's able to like figure out how to listen to a pop culture podcast,

you can fucking figure out how to bathe yourself where you go visit your sick-ass mom in the hospital. That's the bottom line because Stoneholden said so. I need everyone to know that we didn't know there was. going to be a tragedy that happened when we invited him on the episode. It was too late to uninvite him. But out of respect, I will save my talk about all the era's stuff that just dropped for later in the episode. That's nice.

Let's lead with the dead. You know, I'm sick. We lead with the dead here on page seven. We are making jokes, but I will say I spent, I think, a solid 45 minutes just crying to MJ this morning. It's just made me so sad. It's so sad. Deeply, deeply sad.

I think that everyone is. I think that all of, and I know we're not going to be talking about it a lot. It's just really fucking tragic and very, very upsetting. And I just feel, I can't feel any more for every person. I'm not going to start worrying about it. You are, though. I know I'm growing about it. It's okay.

You can let it out. Very, very upsetting. And I think that, especially, you know, doesn't help that it's during the holiday season. In a year of, I mean, in a year of, I mean, in a year. year of dead fathers. Yeah. That doesn't help either. It's really like, when will it in? When will it stop? I'm literally going to two passed away dad's funerals right

just in the lead up to Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, it's a tough time and you should cry and we should be upset and mourn this loss. We'll mourn even harder in the face of hatred and just, you know. And that's why actually I, you know, I've been seeing so many, you know, the horrible thing that was said about him that is being echoed but I also appreciate that so much is being echoed that is like the good that he did as well as like even the I didn't know this that like when Harry Metzalley is one of my favorite movies of all time I didn't realize and that

I guess spoiler alert if you have never seen when Harry met Sally that originally when he first wrote it Rob Reiner didn't have them get together in the end but he met His wife, Michelle, while they were shooting it, and he fell in such love with her, and he never expected ever to, that he changed the ending of the movie and made it this, which is one of the most iconic romances of all time. It's up there. I mean, coming of age movies, I mean, stand by me. And this is a great, you know, and by the way, as unchristmassy as these movies are, it's really fits right in with the holiday season. So many of these movies echo the themes of a great Christmas. movie, there's darkness, there's nostalgia, there's romance, there's love. So it's a perfectly

fine time to re-experience these films. You know what I mean? I'm going to go watch Stand By Me. It's been thinking about it when Harry met Sally as well, because these are amazing gifts that he gave us. Yeah. Yeah. It's so sad. And, you know, it's okay for us to talk about it and feel a motion around it. And pop on spinal tap, like there are ways in which that we can recognize what he and you know. Isn't a sequel like coming out soon? I think it just, it just had. Yes.

It's just, it's just so crazy the, like the, the spectrum of what Rob Reiner brought to our world. I know. All in the family, you know, going back, it's like some of the greatest contributions to. The American president? I feel like that's one of the smaller ones

and I feel like for me, I loved that movie. These are all, these are all movies too like it's such an important time and why it's so especially egregious the horrible shit slung by our you know current whatever um that you know these are all like incredible american specifically treasures too that remind us what makes this country so great and what what we can be so capable of you know what you mean when it comes to uh you know love and and um you know childhood and freedom and all those good things one of the points that i saw made about the trump attacks on reiner was that, like, so many of Reiner's movies were made when there was still a monoculture.

And so, like, it's not like the way that culture is so polarized now, but, but, like, everybody of a certain generation has seen Stand By Me. Everybody has seen when Harry Met Sally. There wasn't anything, like, politically divisive about those films. So, like, I think even though, yes, Rob Reiner was a very outspoken activist, I didn't realize until this tragedy that he was, like, one of the main, like, that he co-founded. the American Foundation for Equal Rights in 2008 to fight Prop 8 in California and so was like a huge leader for fighting for same-sex marriage equality

and like that he you know was this huge outspoken activist which is obviously why Trump went after him but also that he made these movies that are not political and just beloved and you know and so I think that and what you're speaking towards just represents the importance in this country of being able to speak out

whether who no matter who you're speaking out for, you know what I mean? And I think that's like the, what's such a lame-ass fucking part of that whole take is like, he just, he disagreed with you,

which we should absolutely welcome in this country. And that, of course, has been so suppressed publicly with Kimmel and everything, you know, it's just, but that's why I do love

that it seems to be universal everyone, being like, fuck! Yeah. I mean, it's just not, and it's right in the holidays,

too. It's just such a sad. It's just such a, just par for the course, but still somehow it surprises you egregious, close to a horrible year when it comes to that man and everything going on. And, you know, I think at least what's nice is, you know, it's hard when things aren't so black and white and there's gray area and we have to welcome varying ideas and have a complicated discussion. But what's nice in this black and white situation is he's a complete piece of shit for what he said. if you want to continue to support him and think what you said was he said was okay in that post

then you're an awful horrible piece of shit and I don't have to entertain anymore the concept of anyone you know maybe they're not a piece of shit you know what I mean so yeah that's kind of like one like nice line in the sand you can draw you know at least is just to be like

well at least I sleep comfortably knowing I'm definitely on the right side of history yeah you know because no, no, it's not okay. Yeah, and I mean, it'll just never be okay. The thing that, the tweet that I keep thinking about was like somebody posted, they seem like the type of people who would want us to grieve for their son too. And it's like, you know, like the fact that.

He even spoke out when the Charlie Kirk thing happened. He even was like, no one should ever expect, like that was a horrible thing that happened. Right. And no one should ever be killed like that. And, you know, you know, no matter where you stand, you know, so it just shows. the true hypocrisy and just the absolute like no it's really becoming pretty definitively good versus evil here oh yeah uh you know so it's wild but anyways this is a politics show yeah yeah yeah no it was already but you know it's just nice when you can be like no no no like no relative

in florida could have a take on this that's like you know what i mean no relative wherever says the man getting ready to go to florida for the hot i'll go to war i will fucking go to war i will tell you to your face if you if you have some shit to say I will tell you straight up I will ruin Christmas I will tell you go fuck yourself in front of my four year old child I will tell you to eat fucking dog shit

you know what I mean yeah no and they don't but they don't because they know they're wrong and they don't they avoid the uncomfortable because last time someone tried to say some shit and I was just like I don't support anyone trying to stage a coup on our government period As soon as that happened, I was out. So don't even try to act like there's some good things going on here.

Try to take over the White House. Then you refill the eggnut, you know? That was before the re-election, you know what I mean? But Holden, we did, I know that you have your Taylor Swift cardigan on. Yes. And maybe we made it a little chilly in here for you to make sure that you could wear your Taylor Swift cardigan. And I do want you to know, Holden, that you are being judged through this. episode.

Yes. So there is a naughty and nice faction to the end of this episode. So it really depends on if you are good during this episode or if you're bad during the episode. What's being bad? Like telling you your tits suck or something? Like, what's bad? Who knows what it could be? It depends.

I don't know. I cried for 45 minutes before we started recording. So it really depends on where I'm at today. Oh, I'm Dr. J's penis. Like, is that bad? That's fine. I don't know.

Who knows where Santa's going to put the naughty and nice for Holden McNeely by the end of this episode. Well, what? You want to talk about Taylor for a second? I feel like what's more upsetting to people? Rob Reiner talk or Taylor talk? At least Taylor Swift, we can put some of our anger. Like, I feel like I'd rather put some rage towards her. Put some rage out there.

Wait, no, no. Let's talk about like Megan Markle if we're going to do that. If we want to get our rage out, we could talk about how Martha Stewart eats the bagel. Oh, God, we can talk about how Martha Stewart eats the bagel. Oh, God. The Stewart eats the fucking bagel. See, I saw that and I was like, damn, I want to play to that. You're crazy.

Yeah, I saw that and I was like, damn. I wouldn't want to do it myself. So she breaks up the bagel into like little tiny, like, hors d'oeuvre chunks. Little chunks. Monaco. She says monocum of cream cheese. I thought it was a fair amount of cream cheese for each bit. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It was like a normal bagels worth of cream cheese for each bit. I would eat it. I think, honestly, my biggest problem is twofold. One is that I think a pro, I think a New Yorker. but I'd have some thoughts about how a proper bagel shouldn't be so easy to rip up into pieces, right? Because, you know, when locals do a whole, oh, it needs to be eating like this.

Exactly. It should be chewier. I just have to represent that. By the way, everyone yelled at me on my Twitch stream because Lexi came into order pizza and she was getting Papa John. She was like, should I get New York style or like other, you know, or this other style, like stuff crust, whatever? I was like, wait, what's New York? And everyone was like, yeah, it's like going to China and asking where the Chinese food restaurant is. What the fuck do you want for me?

It's different. You know it's different. It's dominoes. Yeah. It's going to be Papa John. So good. I love that. I think the most annoying thing about Martha and this bagel thing, honestly, is that she

says, well, just eat one quarter of a bagel. And that's just, I just would call that disorder eating. Yeah. You're right. I think that a quarter of a bagel should be illegal, especially, honestly, it wasn't even so much the ripping up of the bagel. It was that she served it with a side of lemon. I feel like the side of lemon for the bagel.

It's just like, okay, are you just trying to make it, Martha Stewart, or do you squeeze the lemon on top? No, she's got a glass of water off the image screen. Part of my problem with the ripping up of the bagel is my issue as a New Yorker of the scoop. And I know I feel like we've talked about this on page seven before, but a lot, you know, I think that often, you know, people that are, that get sandwiches on bagels. and I understand it makes the bagel easier to eat. And Jake, at a time when people are mentally struggling.

They're struggling. They're struggling. It makes it easier to eat. Literally everyone's father died this year. I don't know if not knock is there. Don't say that. Yours did it. Everybody did it.

Other people that are listening. Okay, not literally. That's how hilarious is, by the way. Literally. Literally, I have to be naked so that you can see my life. Oh, no, I'm talking. The lime, I think. was served with was she

lemon was squeezed into a like glass of ice water is what I'm guessing. Yeah or maybe there was capers just like the Nathan Fielder captioned like my friends are just outside of the frame laughing with me. Yes, laughing with me. There's capers just outside of the frame like waiting to make this

delicious. Yeah. Oh yeah. Just waiting for it. But you know I guess she's a poppy ass bitch and I see you Martha. We all know why she loves Poppy. She's probably sucking them down. Just hope yeah. who's waiting for that Ope, needs just a dope-a-ho. Now, you brought up some grievances.

I think mine is purely just looking at it and thinking about prep time. You know what I mean? That's that, to me, that's just so much work. I would never do this myself, but if someone served me this, I would be pretty thrilled, I think. Yeah, I like the little, just little bagel bites of it all. It's so nice. You know, I realize that I am such Queens trash. I was at this, like, professional meeting that had, like, there were, like, snacks.

And you were dressed like a sex worker. Yeah, obviously I was. And my pussy was hanging out, and I didn't even try to put it away. And I was like, professional this shit. Yeah, get those labias out of the rib. But there were all these dips, and the person that I was talking to, and I was about to go and dip my piece of bread into the dip. And she stopped.

And before I did that, she picked up a butter knife, took a piece of the dip, and smeared it on her dipping bread. You were about to be an animal. I forget that you're not supposed to just go in. I'm ready to go in. And then I watched to do it. And it was like everything in me, I had to stop and be like, oh, yes, I must grab the butter.

And I get it. I know COVID. We don't know these people. We shouldn't just be putting our mouths in the dips. I just felt like such. I was just like, I forget that I'm trash until I see a moment like this. And I'm like, I don't know how to do these things. I forget, you're not supposed to just dip.

If I had, no, I'm with you. Just dip it. I mean, what are we do? At this point, what are we going to let COVID? This is all very Seinfeld coded, which is making me think about Rob Reiner again. Oh, my God. There is a sign felt episode. There's a Spineffelt episode about this.

You may as well put your whole mouth in the dip. You guys remember. Yeah, yeah, I disagree. Oh, yes. I forgot about that. You say COVID, I argue the opposite. I say we're building immunities here. I think we need to be swapping spit more often.

I mean, I swear to God, I know a few people who regularly attend orgies. They haven't been sick in years because they're just, they're getting the calm and the piss and the spit. And they're playing with shit. They're putting shit on the walls and, you know, and they're not getting sick. Maybe that's Dick Van Dyke's secret. Oh, my God, a happy one he's doing with that dick, yeah. Wow, yes, happy 100 years he kept being like, I don't know if I'm going to make it. I don't know if I'm going to make it.

I guess he was worried it was going to be like a Betty White situation, but don't worry. He's made it. And I did, did I include this article that was talking about David Letterman. David Letterman keeps being misrecognized as Dickman Dyke. This is not too far off. I would feel a little. Little old. I'd feel a little old if I was being.

It must look like father time. I feel. It's one of those times where you're like, they're both old. But the difference between 78 and 100 is, it's. That is a pretty big. That is a big difference. But I will, and I know that I have said on the show recently that Dick Van Dyke is too old to go out in public. But I actually am looking at pictures of him.

He's still going to the gym. I'm looking at pictures from his hundredth. Piss play, shit play. And doing that's where he does his Piz play. I mean, he's not working out. He's got to keep it on the walls. He's putting it on the walls. He's making his wife smell.

He's making his house and Bill's house. The shit's in Jim's house. The Piss plays in Bill's house. I mean, his old age does make me uncomfortable, but I also, he does look great. He looks fucking fantastic for a hundred-year-old. Oh, he looks amazing. Centaurian.

I feel like you should get to, like, get, like, horses' hooves or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, but only in the back, only in the front. Yeah, yeah, just one or the other. Now, I do feel like I'm trying to be nice here, but looking at a picture between him and David Letterman, like he does, Dick Dink did look like a walking course. Yes, yes.

He does look. David Letterman looks like he has many years of life left in. True, you know? Yes. Yeah, Dick Bay-Dyke looks father time. Letterman looks like Santee Clause. Yeah. And I will also say that I'm saying this as somebody who would absolutely sleep with

young Dick Van Dyke. He could get it. He was, I think he's hot as the day is long. And we're looking at the 100-year-old version of him. And it's just funny as you're saying this. I know. And I'm just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. keep talking, MJ.

But were you a Mary Tyler Moore show person? Were you a Dick Van Dyke show person? My problem is I was a Mary Tyler Moore. Like I was more and I wanted Mary Tyler Moore. I love Dick Van Dyke show. Yeah, yeah. All that. I mean, we, we watched our fair share of like classic black and white television, the three of us, right? I mean, you know, Burns and Gracie, do you guys ever watch that? No. No, I didn't. George Burns. It was on. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. And it was so old, they would stop in the middle of the show and within in the show do like a demonstration of a kitchen appliance as the commercial.

Like it wouldn't cut to commercials. You would just have a commercial literally in the middle of the sitcom. Gracie would like be in the kitchen and just like show off some appliance then like the show would keep it. It was so, it was like a play. George, totally. He was the first like 100 year old because he also lived to be 100 and in

the mid 90s and he is the one who he's like I remember seeing him on 60 minutes or something and me like that's the oldest man who ever lived and my parents were like, you know, get some respect and like, showed me some old, you know, Burns and Allen clips, and I was like, oh, oh, okay, this is awesome. Yeah, I also, this is something I wish that our kids had, like, Nick at night, I feel like gave us literacy in the previous generations, you know, cult. I watched Bob Newhart, the honeymooners, you know, Dick Van Dyke, all of that stuff. And, yeah, I had a kind of a thought about

this. I forget where it popped in my head, but I was like, you know, I don't even understand this weirdness about the previous generation's musics because I remember listening to a ton of classic stuff. I mean, I didn't really have I feel like there's so much more of a divide between like what is to be listened to now, like for younger

generation, what's to be listening to now versus what. I mean, I see people with like Nirvana shirt. Yeah, I think it's coming back. Yeah. Nriba and Green Day shirts is coming back, but it is funny to me. I feel like there's this weird more of a divide than there ever was. I think just because everything is so impermanent. Right. And everything is so here today and gone. tomorrow that there's just this is definitely an old man thing i'm talking about right here but i feel

like there's way less of a general sense of going back and listening to older eras of music than then then there used to be that is true although wide leg pants are back like really wide leg like jinkgo white like oh oh they've oh they've been here for a minute and i really hope but at the same time as you say they're back but the midrift shirts and also low rise are also back mj so The bad things are back too. The bad is back as well. I've seen so many crazy mid-drifts. I know.

And it's that under-tit weird thing, too, where they're trying to show every part of the tit. Yes, but not the nipple, everything around it. Because, God forbid. It is always so fascinating to me to have, like, I've never had the kind of breasts that you can just show the shadow of the crescent of it. I don't know how some people do that. I feel like it is so that I'm just like

How did they just stay And then they just don't come out And I Because they're made of plastic But I feel like sometimes even when they're not made of plastic Is it like I'm so I get so heavy I don't know what's going on anymore

Now my horny Instagram feed I mean every third picture I go like That's an AI bitch So now I'm even being now I'm being tricked No the hornet lingers My horny My horny feed is now Half the time I'm like

I think that's AI And so it's funny now is I'm actively looking for women with, like, obvious flaws that you can't replicate. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm looking at, like, deranged, like, car crash victim. It is feminist of him. Yeah, I'm looking for, like, mangled women.

Wow. Yeah. So that I just know, for a fact, there's no way to be a guy. That's a real man. And I masturbate to those women. Because you know they're real. A woman who's just, like, her eyeballs, like, on her chin. Hell, yeah.

Because she fucking got hit by a motor. Yeah. And it just popped out of her face. That's what I fucking beat off. nowadays. Hell yeah. Her partner's got the, if you can read this, the bitch fell off, but she's just laying on the on the ground, like, oh, hold up.

Unzipped. Yeah, man, you get in there. Yeah, because I know it's real. By the way, again, I'm not attracted to the violence. I'm attracted to. So are you going to start being one of those people that chases the, like, it's like you go after? Is it crash? Crash. Not the, the, not the Oscar winning

film? What a stain on our, on the Oscar? What the fuck, dude? What in the holy fuck were they thinking getting that thing even nominated? I saw it in the theaters. What a betrayal? Wait, what is the other, is it also called crash? It's also called crash, but it's also called crash, but it's, that's a documentary.

Is it a documentary? No, it's, that's a movie. Yeah, Adam, Adam, come on in here. Cronenberg movie based off of a J.G. Ballard book. Okay, but it's, okay, but it's based on, it's a straight-up movie based people who get off on, on car crashes. Oh, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah.

It's very dark, very different from the other one, but also weirdly better. Adam, would you have preferred if the Kronenberg one had gotten the Oscar instead? Of course. That's the kind of thing I wished as a kid, but you just had to deal with the fact that the Oscars generally always suck. And the movie that wins the best picture, it's never very good. So you think it's going to be ping pong? Oh, I don't know. I think one battle after another.

I think one battle after another is going to win. Okay. All right. I'm calling it right now. I'm already excited because. it's starting to show that it's going to be streaming on, I think, HBO soon. Friday.

On Friday, yes. And I was like, I'm going to watch this again. Yeah, I'm excited to see it. I haven't seen it. Watch, yes, definitely watch it. It's as much as, oh, God, I don't want to give anything to Sean Penn. He's just so good at being

so yucky. Yeah. He's so good in it. And I hate that he's so good in it, but it's just because he's genuinely a yucky human being. I'm kind of bummed. I feel like the world would like Shakespeare and love a lot better if it hadn't won the Oscar.

Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I need to revisit it. But I remember enjoying that film. But I just think everyone fucking hates it because it clearly didn't earn, deserve the Oscar for best picture. Adam, yeah? I agree with that wholeheartedly. Right. I enjoy it, but it's not the best. Of course.

It should be nowhere near that. It's literally just in everyone's heads now. It's just not saving private Ryan. Yeah. Like when you look at the movie, all you can think is this isn't saving private Ryan. why did this fucking thing win that year you know I think there were multiple movies that year that were incredible right

they were all up for like every other movie than Shakespeare in Love should have won the Oscar you know including saving Private Ryan it was like banger after banger and they gave it to I'm excited to see Hamnet though I can't wait to see Hamnet so I kind of want to get Shakespeare again I'm feeling that's what is so I wonder if people do also I'm wondering Adam if you feel the same way

that when Crash one I forgot that it was up against broke back a mountain. It was up against Capote. It was up against. Much better movies. That's insane. I guess that is why everyone just like really truly lost their mind because it was up against such other good night, good luck.

Well, no, but Crash is also actively fucking bad. Yes, both. Like at least, like I said, Shakespeare in Love, I think people would have a much higher opinion on it. That honestly, and maybe even though I'll probably get crucified for this, maybe even also La La La Land for like almost winning and like doing. so well, but I don't know, that's a little different. I think, yeah, that was also, I'm sorry, but I'm thinking about Green Book, because that was

also, I mean, I love to be sorry. You always bring Green Book. 2018 up against Phantom Thread, the shape of water, Dunkirk, get out, oh my God, call me by your name, well, that's, I loved shape of water. Yeah, I like, I like shape of water too. Do we have to throw out called me by your name because of the cannibal? No, he didn't know. I don't think so, you know?

I mean, I'm certainly not watching it again. That's the thing. I don't think we can enjoy it the same way. I did love call me by your name, though. I did at the time. I really cranked it out a couple times to that. I'm pretty sure that apricot whole thing, I think, is going to hit a little different now, yeah. Then it did back then.

But I tell you, when that movie came out, I was jizzing in plums, jizzing and strawberries. I bet. If it's a stone fruit, don't put it near that stone fruit. Do not get near my penis head because I will fucking flick a jizz right into that. And ask like the, you know, my barb or anybody, I'd just be like, can you, would you eat this jib fruit for me? I forgot Crash was Holly Hunter and James Spader. Do I need to go rewatch the Cronenberg crash? Yeah, I, absolutely.

Yeah, you'd love it. Because we were just talking about Holly Hunter. MJ and I were just talking about Home for the Holidays over on the Celebrities Holiday roundup. Check it out over on the page 7 Patreon. We were talking about Home for the Holidays because I was trying to say to MJ that at, like, MJ has a very Gen X husband that I think, who also is not a huge fan of Christmas movies, but I feel like Home for the Holidays might be the right avenue of Gen X that he might enjoy. I feel like this turned into a different podcast where we just talk about movies.

We're very sad. We're studiously trying to not talk about something else. Surprisingly, guys, there was this crazy news story that turns out like everybody's talking about that news story. I just want to say this, okay? I want to get this as a preamble out of the way before I even say. He's talking about home for the holidays, which is a holiday movie. I was segueing back into the holidays, which is a current.

But what did you want to say? I just, before, I want to talk about Taylor for two seconds, but let me just take. You were going to be given the opportunity. But I want to take a toe from Taylor for, I do need her to say something soon. Wait, ew, wait, you're going to take a toe for her. Wait, that's a common threat. It's a Russian, Scandinavian free. Wait, why are you taking, are you throwing her on my fucking show?

You can't get out of here. It's a, it's not literally, it's figuratively. to take a toe. Hate feet. I hate feet. But you want her toe? What are you going to do with it? I'm not going to do anything with it.

It's a thing I made up. Not that I'm saying feet people are freak. I'm saying the fact that you want to take her toe. That's freakish behavior. What do you want from her? I do need her to probably say something soon because all I get, whatever she comes up, everyone's just like, she's back, go back! Which really reminds me of when everyone just called her a Nazi frivolously.

I get that she's taken some sour company. recently and it's it's not great but they did lose the playoffs so it's been a bad year for both of them now which is great because her her album I'm sure she's not thrilled with how her album Can I just say take a toe is not a phrase

I did okay I just need everyone to know okay good good good I was really getting lost in I was like if there if it meant something I'm gonna start I'm gonna create it in a year it's gonna be a thing but to your point Holden the problem is And every time we bring up Taylor Swift,

people are like, well, why won't you condemn her actions? And then I say to myself, but what actions? And then I look and I look. And it's a lot of a lot of completely reasonable speculation that she's magacoded. She is megacoded. I cannot figure out if she's done any macadocoded. And that's the thing.

It's like until she comes out, but I am, I think the thing that the breaking point that made me sad was when the White House is using her music and you got to live here Iatrigo and Sabrina Carpenter and, you know, all these other people really taking a firm stand and they were using songs from the new album too,

which already the new album is like getting hate. Yeah, and she never said like, hey, fuck you for using Opelite, fuck you for using, you know. And I, that's the one thing. That's the one thing I personally at least can point to it. That's very concrete. It's pretty big thing. It's very un-her.

It's pretty big, though. Yeah. Although the things that I've heard, because I asked my big, big, hardcore 50 about this, because I trust her to not apologize for her. And she was like, I think that most of what people are identifying correctly is vibes. But she was like, I haven't figured out any like, because she doesn't say anything.

She's so avoidant of everything. She hasn't said anything explicit, but she hasn't. But at times she hasn't been. And in the past, I mean, the only thing I can say is like, it would be a really shocking 180 for her who, and very un-her to just be like, yeah, I'm Maga now. even though, like, the head of that movement has publicly declared that he hates me. Right. And, like, I've never, there's never been, but I think the one thing I do, I would wish from her. But, again, she's her own person.

She can do her the fuck she wants is that, like, I wish she had said, like, don't use my fucking music. Yeah, yeah. Especially because she's been so protective over her. It's just the only reason she's not is because it affects her money. I think that's right. And that's what makes it disgusting. And that's where it's, like, because she doesn't want to lose her mega fans. I think that's, I don't think she had a lot of MAGA fan.

She's been very, I think she does. We've been with the LGBTQ plus stuff, and the public hate that they've had with each other. A lot of people don't read about celebrities. Like, a lot of people aren't, like, they don't know it. They just listen to the music. And they don't know anything about, and they just like her. That's also unlike her, though, actually. And maybe they assume that she is a part of them because of the everything about her.

It's just a weird, it would be, it's a weird, like, reneg though on what she was already had already the damn she had already broken by getting it all political not very long ago you know so it'd be a weird thing to go like psych I'm actually not political at all and I'm too afraid of saying anything because of I'm worried about the fans when that was

the opposite of how she felt with you know miss Americana out of his fucking mouth yeah she should have publicly decried that I feel that that is a huge huge I mean I think that's an identifiable change from

the previous, from the time you're talking about when she actually was willing to say something. Yeah. And yes, she did like endorse Kamala in 2024, but like in a single Instagram post that kind of said it at the end. And it was fine, but it wasn't like, she's not an activist, right? And which is why I always say like, well, I don't expect her to be, but I think that the, I think that the company. And she gives a lot of money to charities and the difference.

Sure. Like, I'm not saying that she's not. Worker as well and everything. And all that's, I've always been like, this is there, to me there's always been, I've always been either there's a bit enough kind of hash marks in the neutral or positive side to balance out what I do think is her trying to not alienate maggot people because she's never done as again I've been trying to figure out has she done anything affirmatively like signaling to them because a lot of people say there's all these like signals it's literally just the company

she keeps and that is right and that's right and that's at this point maybe that is enough right enough, but that's such a, it's such a hard one. It is. I'm about to be around MAGA people for the holidays. Right. And I'm not going to, and I did say I would ruin the holidays. I'd say you were going to ruin the holidays. But I generally have to kind of like, but in general, I will have to just sort of swallow it and get through.

Yeah, but you're not in like a private box with them at the football game. Right. And I would say to anyone that does have to go through that through the holiday, just make a, like make a mark. Maybe it's like the opposite of a drinking game where every time you hear something. something that you feel like, oh, I'm going to really set the whole Christmas on fire if I come add. I mean, eat edible and also write down, and that's going to be another $10 that you can donate to a, you know, it's like look up different places where you can donate your money that people need the money and people need the help. And rather than trying to change their mind,

which you're probably not going to do on Christmas Eve, actually help the people that you can be helping. And if you feel you're not going to get through to that. them. By the way, I'm not going to be like, it's not like how I just described. It's not like this overtly, like Sydney, Sweeney's families for the July party or whatever. You know what I mean? It's not going to be hat wearing and shit. But you know, you just generally have a sense. Yeah, but I certainly hope Ozempic Santa shows up. And yeah, we are, we need to at least bring up Kim Kardashian's beige, what the internet is calling Ozempic Santa because skims, how dare they, has brought in a Santa for people, they're like, come in, take pictures with

our Santa. And the Santa is wearing, he is, he looks like Dick Van Dyke. He does look like Dick Van Dyke. He does look frail at least. Not in a David Letterman way. At least he's not like jacked. That would be so obnoxious. I'd rather it was a big hymbo. Give me like, I want like all the boys that are competing in finding Mr. Christmas on Hallmark. That's what I want to see. If he's going to be wearing beige, no, this is literally does look actually like Nick Van Dyke in a beige Santa outfit. Yeah, and like a stupid white. This is the same.

And Holden, you said this before we started recording, but Jackie sent us this picture of Jada Pinkett Smith's holiday tree. And I just- Yeah, they're one and the same to me in the same category of duchiness. I didn't realize that the Santa is wearing the skim's body suit in Sienna. So they're forcing Santa to wear skims. And it's like the aesthetic of the chair is all like white and Jada Pinkett Smith's tree is all velvet. And I just feel like- It's this red velvet drape over a cone with a star over it.

And you know, as much as I just want to be like, ugh, it's just like, you know, I don't know. I'm rolling my eyes at how try-hearted is to be different looking, you know what I mean? I'm not rolling my eyes at how different it is. I'm rolling my eyes at the effort to try to be so different. And it just never, to me, it just never really works, you know? I'm like, no, both of those things. I'm like, both of those, both of these aesthetics make me weirdly, like, depressed. They're very depressing.

Oh, very much. And if you look up Jada Pinkett Smith's Christmas tree, it just makes me think of, I think it was a couple of years ago, it just kept popping up on my feed of someone, I believe it was a sex psychiatrist that was making jokes at the target being like, don't put that up your ass, don't put that up your ass, pointing at all of the Christmas tree things. Like, don't put that up your ass. This looks like something you would be, find it at target. And tell, and someone should tell you not to put it up your ass.

Yes. And I feel like, don't put this Christmas tree up your ass. Yes. Yeah, you shouldn't do that. Like, make sure you get an actual butt plug. Red cone and there's no, there's no ornaments on it. So it's just, the whole guys. There's no happiness.

The point of the tree is like to have it kind of be like covered in a bunch of memories that your family had it and stuff. It's like, it's not supposed to just be the stylish thing. Holden, did your mom, because I, because Jan is so, like, she's so good at having control over things. Did your mom control the Christmas tree and the way, where the ornaments had to go? No, but, but it was, the ornaments were extremely well organized, dated. Whoa, oh, yes, yes. Very, like, we all had our own ornament box. They were, and they were very, very, like, it was very curated and organized with, like, very, you know, every, you know, and that was all very deliney.

It was just toss. into a box it was but and in general the same like ascetic approach every year it was like it was a real tree we used to have a really cool my dad would do a train at the base oh that's awesome and it had like metal it was like a really cool that's a thing that kind of went away uh is just the toy train thing yeah also i used to be so much bigger with a grown men and children yeah i really want I really also want to go back. I threaten Jeff every year that I'm like, someday we're going to have this space,

and I want a Christmas fucking village. Yeah, it's so fun. I want all the stupid little things, and I want them all to have stupid little hats on, and I want all of it. And I know someday I'm going to have it. It's all like a little miniature thing. Get a train in there, man.

Oh, I'll put a fucking train in there. We have a train museum in L.A., and I've taken Winnie a couple times, and there is a section where there's just these cute old men like an overalls with this gigantic model train set that they're constantly

like curating and adding to and you can just like watch them work through glass and like they're just it's so cool and I'm like god that's a fun hobby

I love that shit there's also if you are a New Yorker in Grand Central there's always like a holiday train like display in Grand Central that's pretty good

but yeah Jackie I fuck with a Christmas village I've been building up my Christmas village slowly but surely each year that's the kind of the crazy I am. I also remember this,

I remember this Christmas party back in college where there was this really horny lady who's dressed all in Christmas clothes and she went to the back room and we ran collectively a holiday train on her and there were men dressed as reindeer and Santa Claus is a man dressed as a present and the cock is at a candy.

Yes, as a cheer yes. And we ran a beautiful holiday train on her. Oh, were you all going, chew, chew, chew. Yeah, yeah. Coco coming through. At the end, we're like, is it snowing outside what's going on? It was like, no, this is just the collective jizz that has hit the walls. You put it out on the firescape for a little bit so it gets all chunked up so you can make it more like snow.

Oh, God. She was just a husk by the end. I've never seen such dead eyes. They were like a doll's eyes. I'm glad I was worried that he wasn't going to make it to the naughty list. We called her college jobs. You know, she had the dead doll eyes. He's been so good this entire time.

And I was just, I was, I was nervous he wasn't going to make it. Well, I love that. That's my favorite holiday song. Ding dong the Christmas train, running it on the lady. Yeah, I forgot. Are you going to sing that with all of the family in Jacksonville? Roger showed up and Hank showed up. Started at the first funeral, work shopping at the first funeral.

Take it to the second funeral. It is nice. That is a nice thing about funerals. It's kind of an open mic, you know? You can really get up there and do some material. They let you take the floor. You can say whatever you want. I'll be like, yeah, I remember Mark pretty well, but also, there was this college party.

Yeah. You guys know Christmas trades, right now. They all used to be at the base of the tree. I had to figure out how to set it up quickly enough. I think you figured it out. Right, right. I think that's it. I think that's the set up. By the way, we had a whole preamble about like why I'm upset with Taylor, but that was

literally something I was trying to get out of the way, just to very briefly say, I love the new Ares doc series, and I'm really enjoying the new Final Ares show. We don't have to harp on it. But the funny thing was that was actually the thing I wanted to get to was the positive, which is, I think it's great. And me yelling after Jack and as Holden was drunkenly forcing me to watch the new version of eras and then me understanding as I'm drunkenly watching it. It's just the same thing again. It's just the same thing again. With the torture poets department, you text out.

And what was the text? The dancer who danced with Jen Affleck from Dancing with the Star. Yon is featured in the documentary during Fortnite. And now I was looking out for Yon as I was watching it. And now I pointed out Yon to you. I left and I got home and I got a text say cut to me minutes later crying to Enchanted. It's because Enchanted was playing. I got the receipts.

It was the end of the night. I got the receipt. You could have hit the off button after I left. You could have turned it off. You easily could have turned it off. So anyways, I did. I know people hate the tailotalk, but I just wanted it very quickly. It was because I was crying with anger.

She's so angry about it. There is a switch she could flip for me, definitely. And, you know, but I have learned time and time again, give it some time. And usually she comes out with something and makes you go, see, she was the whole time. You know, this has happened before. This is not the first time. I'm willing to have some patience. I understand why people are mad.

But also, I am enjoying the new offerings if you want a little positivity around the I love some positivity. I guess it's nice. We do. People are going on it. People, man, it's fun, too, though, to see them not have a good, like, they're both didn't have a good year. Chiefs are now officially out of playoff contention for the first time since 2014. 2014.

And that's crazy. And then Life is Showgirl, I'm sure she's not thrilled with the reaction, the response to that, you know. You know, she's too busy destroying other people's wedding days and really trying to go after the BTS Army to make sure. sure that the day is hers and not theirs. Please give me money to fucking move my wedding, to give me millions of dollars to move my wedding day. That would be the best situation

you could ever be in. If Taylor Swift wants your venue, you could literally be like, okay, give me $500 million. You know she's not going to give you that much, but also imagine having to deal with your wife after you've planned the wedding and then you've got to plan it again. I say take the bag and leave.

I felt bad for that until I realize that whoever booked that venue is already so rich that, like, they'll be fine, you know. They're fine. They're fine. So I don't need to feel bad for them. Or I'd be like, okay, bitch, give me a fucking invite then. I get to go.

I get to go. I get to go. Put it in a contract. And don't put me at a bullshit table. I want to be there with Jack Antonoff and Margaret Kuala. Let me at the good table. Do the best man's speech. Oh, my God.

And then hold them's talking about the Christmas train at Taylor's Wedding. I get up, I get up, yeah. I'm so happy for these two lovers. I know it's months after the season. You guys never seen a train going around. Remember the trains? It was this woman in college. It was this woman in college and she was opened up by the end of that thing.

We were like, we can see right through her. I can look into her pussy and see our earth for her. Can you believe it? Who's on the list? Me. Got to have that list. Okay. The problem is that I was so obsessed with the facts about Rob Reiner list.

We're not going to do the facts about Rob Reiner. I'm not just going to get sadder. This actually might be a list nobody gives a fuck about, but I do because it's National Lampoons Christmas Vacation Facts. Everybody's going to love this list. I watch it every year with my dad. It's like my dad a nice movie. I literally wore a sweater, a Christmas sweater at the Christmas party last Sunday that says,

I don't know, Margo. And Lexi had a sweater. that says why is the liverroom carpet wet, Todd. And MJ, you love National Ampoon? I love National Lampoon. I can't wait for this list. I told you I want to show it to my kids, but I'm worried that the Malikaliqqqqa see is my ass.

It's going to be too weird. It's fine. It's fine. Okay, great. Okay, they can do it? I think so. Or you can always fast forward. Yeah, it's fine.

I think it was maybe an age where we fast forwarded through some stuff. I don't think I was able to watch the speech until a certain age. I think I had to like. shit. I had to like leave the room. And by the way, making your kids like leave the room for a dirty part of a movie

is part of the memories of making. Of course it is. It's part of the nostalgia. And then them eventually getting to watch it. And then you're trying to like sneak around the corner so that you can watch it. But part of the fun is the mystery of what's in that scene and in that moment. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember the horniest being the, when at the mall, that chick at the mall. Oh, yeah. And you can't see the lines. Yeah. Oh, God. That's why it's such a good dad movie because there are those awkward, like, sexy parts, and that's part of the weirdness of watching movies, like,

with your parents, you know what you mean? Yeah, no, it kind of has all that. It's totally, like, a family-friendly movie with just weirdly horny parts, like, two or three times, and that's probably, yeah, it is. Yeah, we're going to make it happen. I actually did, this is a good promo for, for Nerd of Mouth, the podcast I do with Mike Lawrence and Jake Young. The episode won't drop for another week or so, but we just did an episode on What Makes a Good

Christmas Movie. Oh. And I took all of the important elements. you know, magic, nostalgia. We kind of broke it down all the different elements that make a darkness, of course, romance. And I came to a conclusion

that besides dirtiness, which I do think is good in Bad Santa and Christmas Vacation. I do think it, but it's kind of an impossibility to have every single possible element. Right. But I did give the award

to Muppets Christmas Carol for being the best Christmas movie of all time. It's got it all. It's got it all. It's got songs. It's, it's got heart heart it's got uh darkness it's got romance uh with the love is gone it's got oh yeah it's got all of it all of it everything and and and based on a classic story it's got

every single thing it doesn't have the hybrid of pigs and and frogs that we wish it's the one we need it's uh it's got a redemption arc it's got you know it's every every little thing that that is in a great christmas movie besides maybe that besides the what i called it in the category of families they're just like us which is Christmas vacation, I think, takes the rest of it. You're damn right now. I think that do, I think a lot of us are aware that Mayquestel, who played Aunt Bethany in the movie, was her final movie, but also, I don't know if you're aware that she was

also the voice of Betty Boop originally. And that is the one that sings, you know, that does like, bye, everybody. Bye, everybody. It was her, and that was her last film as well. Now, although Jeremiah S. Chichick directed the film, the original director was salated to be Chris Columbus, who you probably know for the movies like the first two Harry Potter installments and Mrs. Doubtfire, but he quit the project since Chevy Chase was so reportedly known for being challenging to work with. And then Christopher Columbus

went on to direct the equally classic holiday film, Home Alone. One year later, wow. Yeah, yeah. I will say, though, I think that it was a better fit for that other director. I think, I mean, you nailed it for sure. Yeah, we know of any. Is he a big director, the national, like the guy that did Christmas vacation, Adam? I actually don't know who the director. Do you know the name? Jeremiah S. Check. Check. No. It's, it sounds like, because apparently Chevy Chase went out to dinner with John Hughes and Chris Columbus.

And Chris Columbus was like, afterwards was like, I cannot fucking stand this. Dude, there's no way we can make a movie together. Really? So just not knowing that director at all and hearing that name and having no clue about it, I feel like it was definitely like, well, let's just get somebody who will get it done. and won't cause an issue with Jeffie. And he's going to let Chevy do what Chevy's going to do. Yeah. It's probably someone that just was probably walked all over, I would imagine. I think so.

Got it. Here's another fun. That makes sense. Here's another fun director fact. Terry Zweigoff was originally offered Elf. He turned it down and made Bad Sanna, which came out in the same year. Wow. So by the way, we had a giant fucking drought for years.

And then in 2003, Love Actually, Elf, and Bad Sanna all. all came out, which was like a perfect trifecta of Christmas movies. You're so right. Which led me to believe, why did 9-11 cause the greatest year for Christmas movies of all time? It was all the sadness. It was all the sadness, right? Well, Hugh Grant addresses this in the beginning of love, actually, what he brings up 9-11 immediately. When the planes eat the does, I know about I think about it.

That's right. That's what he said, right? He needed her like a doth. She was like a doll's eyes. We had done running that tray. Did you see how that? Jay Woz. Snots, Eddie's dog, wasn't just a random dog hire, it was actually Beverly DeAngelo's real-life dog, as well as Aunt Bethany's cat that gets wrapped up as the present. Also, Beverly

DeAngelo's real-life cat. Wow, that's kind of fun. And I think that is a lot. I love that. She's like, well, I've got animals. You want to just bring mine in. You can bring mine in. And I feel like you can't get away with something like that anymore, but I'm happy that nothing that, you know, we're not reading on the list, and then seven dogs died during the filming. You know, it's on Milo and Otis situation. But apparently-

Or all dogs go to heaven. Oh. How many dogs died to make that movie? I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. That's why they tried to do the live action and people just got too upset because they were just murdering all these dogs,

you know, to turn them into ghosts. Yeah, you've got to. I thought it was a fun. riot of a story when I heard about it, but I guess people are sad about it for some reason. Now, Aunt Bethany and Uncle Lewis were married in the movie and this is, of course, the guy that goes,

The Blessing! And he was also from My Blue Heaven, specifically that I remembered everything. You wanted you God. Yeah, yeah. He was only 62 in the movie National Lappoon's

Christmas vacation. And his wife, who, Questell, played was 81 in the movie, but isn't it crazy? 62 used to look so different. Yeah, and it looks way older. It's so crazy to me that he was actually, in real life, 62. I don't think we realize like how much the rampant use of cigarette smoking and like drinking, drunk dry, like it was just so constant and everywhere, you know, it just

it was crazy with skin stuff and stuff. And I don't know, I, you know, I have not looked into just because I'm finding this out on the list as I'm reading it. I'd love to look further into this because we all are familiar with shit. Lindsay fuckingham song, Holiday Road. And yes, that is Lindsay Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac and fuck Lindsay Buckingham. But Holiday Road is a great song. We know that song, but it is not in the movie Christmas Vacation. and now apparently the filmmakers offered Lindsay Buckingham

the opportunity to write the movie's theme and he declined. So instead they brought in Mavis Staples singing, Chris a vacation, which I'm so glad that we have. I love that. That song like just gets me right into the spirit. Also, it's one of those movie intros that I feel like,

like it has the whole like cartoon intro session of it. I loved that. Yes. I miss those fully animated. It was like a mini, it was like a short right before your movie. You got this like little awesome animated sequels. They used to do it so much back around this time of movies. And I feel like that...

And I thought it was always so effective. And it helps. I feel like when I was a little kid, it helped bring me in because... Yes. Yes. Yeah, it took me a few years before I wanted to watch this movie, like, before I felt old enough to really enjoy it. But I do feel like those little animated openings kind of kind of bring in. Brought you in.

But also, Adam, it makes sense that you brought up John Hughes, because I don't. didn't know. So the whole movie that Clark watches in the attic is labeled Xmas 59, which is also the name of John Hughes's short story that inspired the film, which is Christmas 59. Yeah, because they're like, they're all like little essays that he did for National Lampoons that he turned into movies, basically. Oh, wow. Oh, I didn't even realize that he wrote it for National Ampooh. I did read the Christmas one at one point, but I barely remember it to be honest. I should go read those, I love that shit. Yeah, I would love to get into. That's such a fun side of these movies that I'd love to get into. That'd be something cool to give my dad if that's, like, published somehow.

Is that, like, published an edition? I would be willing to bet it is. I would be shocked if it wasn't. Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd actually be a really cool Christmas gift. It really is, but, you know, I, uh, so cast members, so just, last but not least, cast members not on screen for Clark's rant, the famous rant at the end, who were facing Chevy Chase, each had a sign hanging around their necks with one word on it. Some of these were adjectives Clark would use to describe his boss during his infamous rant. So it was literally like little cues for him to be able to pump out. Like as somebody that we all have acted many times, I love that as a little cue to be like,

oh, I can spew off that word. Oh, I can spew off that word. But I love that they encourage that in this scene. You know, it's amazing. You know, almost more than the speech that I have a memory of like not being able to it until later is the planes trains interaction god uh i remember like my parents would make me like leave or they would fast forward it and and again though do that because the kids you know as much as it might bum them out or whatever it like adds this fun mystery and memory you know that that

memory sticks out to me more than the a lot of the movies yeah oh yeah like large marge like having to hide by and they got like when the movie becomes like interactive in this weird way yeah yeah oh yeah yeah because it's it's kind of like what i feel like they use to do with like smell o vision like what john waters used to do in that kind of stuff where it's like yeah it involves you a little bit more yeah yeah but that's my list for you guys so that's your list well nice uh-oh something's happening with my eyesight i think i'm going wide items we have we get some fun ones for you holden okay the years haven't been incredibly kind to our former teen heartthrob once he lost his boyish good looks his career pretty much nosedive

He has landed a few projects here and there, but his level of fame is nowhere near where it was during the peak of his career. To cope with his downward trajectory, our guy has turned to illegal drugs popular in the gay club scene, most notably GHB. He was originally turned onto the gay party drug by one of his more flamboyant friends, and now he's hooked. A reminder that I do not write the blind items. His only connection to the drug is a gay dealer who will only give him his fix if he paid. him in sexual favors. Wow. I was originally going to go with the oldest brother from him improvement recently got made the news for going to jail again.

Ah, yes. I think he was with his like girlfriend or wife or something. He did, but that is not him. This is a much bigger star than that. Okay, much bigger star. Who lost it? Mel Gibson. No, he's a former teen.

God, wouldn't it be great if it were Mel Gibson? Oh, man, wouldn't that? I'd be like, wow, GHB, huh? Much younger. Not Macaulay Culkin, right? Younger, much younger. Teen Hart, the former, like a recently-ish teen heartthrop. I guess we're talking about a guy here.

We're talking about a guy, and this is a person we have discussed. I mean, I wouldn't say he's like top, top 10 people we discuss on page 7, but we have discussed him a lot. Subway, Jared. And you know we're always bringing him up. He was a former teen. His face has changed a lot since he was a teen heart threat. Yeah, so that's the big thing to go on. But I'm so,

and remember, this is a reminder that. I always love that. Zach Ephron. Yes. Zach Ephron. He slipped on the sock with the marble fountain. You know, I couldn't bring up the fountain. That would give it away.

Is this because, is this all having to do with dancing with the stars and maybe that's why he wasn't around enough? Maybe he was too busy doing sexual favors for GHB. Wow. Dude, by the way. He's using the GHB on himself. Yeah. Yeah, he's just getting high off it.

People love it. I will say, that was one of the most disturbing things from the Puffy Doc series that I watched recently was that he was putting... Oh, good, I was hoping you were going to talk about it. Apparently, he was putting GHB in the baby oil. So he was drugging all of the people

he worked with and they'd wake up and be like, what happened? I know, I can't believe I haven't turned on that dock yet. I know it's crazy. And it really adds such a darker tone to the whole baby oil thing. He was literally putting drugs in the baby oil. You know what I'm going to say?

I didn't have a real positive light about the baby oil in the first place. No, but I mean, you're right. It took that thing that was already disturbing and made it somehow even more disturbing, isn't that? That's like 20, 25 in a nutshell. It certainly is. You know, like Trump's tweet with Rhylin's, it took an already disturbing thing and somehow made it even more upsetting.

But anyways, yeah. All right. Zach Abron, I hope you're having fun out there. I have a good time out there. I hope you're doing good. Dude, I had the weirdest. I think my neighbors are having a drug problem right now. Uh-oh.

Yeah, I got in. Okay, so I guess this is the new thing. Have you seen this on the news? They're like, they're like whippets or nitrous, but they're these giant like... Canisters? Canisters with the big, like, tip, and they're like really crazy. Well, they were like going into the elevator and when he like ran into the elevator kind of fast and I like followed behind it.

I was like, oh, sorry, sorry. And we got in and we were just standing there and they were like, actually, we need to get off on one. We have a package. and then they got off and it was a guy and a girl and the girl had one of those and she was hiding it

and she was doing a terrible drug person's job at of hiding it hiding a giant whip it and I was like you're fine and then like the elevator doors closed and I was like

oh yeah that was like by the way if they had just stayed on the elevator and just went to their floor I never would have seen the thing I never would have even

see the thing but because they're being like drug-brained they like pulled an audible for no reason and got off of the floor and explained to me

why, like, I care. Sorry about our giant can of nitrous. Oh, wow, you could just get them at vape shops. Yes, because it's a loophole. It's these crazy, right? It's that big, it's like these, and that's like what all the kids are getting into, I guess. Yeah, it's nitrous, yeah. I mean, the kids have been into nitrous.

It's a special, it's a specific, it's a specific packaging because they're trying to, like, I don't know, hide it or whatever. Anyway, just a fun story. So, so I hope that was, I don't know. You write in and let me know which story you prefer the baby oil, Puffy story, or that story. Let me know. But yeah.

Now I'm worried, like, now I'm worried they think I'm gonna call the cops on there for something, you know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm cool, I'm cool. I'm cool.

I'm cool. I'm cool. You're like, have fun. You're like the dorky dad does I have fun with your drugs. Have fun guys. Just don't try to kill me

in my fucking family in a drug-fueled rage. Oh, God. That's right. Okay, this next blind is also fun. He's not a darned or. He's naughty. He's naughty. He's naughty. It's just the year.

Our unlucky and love, aging heartthrob, thought that he found love again in his twilight years. Although he's usually very private, this time around he didn't hide his feelings for a younger and very attractive woman. I'm just going to say right at the top, this is somebody we talk about a lot and recently. And he can't be anti-vax. I am so, I'm waiting for this. Are you talking about Liam Neeson? Yes. Now, I saw a headline that was like, Liam Neeson in, out, like new anti-vax documentary. And I was like, I can't deal with this right now. So I'm going to circle back to this later.

Okay, well, yeah, we'll come back to that. I don't know if it's real. I need everyone to know. I did not look colored. We've got pubs out of the oil. We've got my neighbors. You're the one that brought them off. We've got Liam Neeson.

We got GHB gay drug child star. I was about to say this is this is not depressing, but it is. So let me finish. Okay. Oh, good. Oh, does he talk about his dead wife? He's usually very private.

He didn't have his feelings this time around for a younger and very attractive woman. Things who I think you know who that is. Things heated up quickly, but they fizzled just as fast and now we know why. Again, this is a reminder, I do not write the blind items, okay? Our guy is basically impotent. So he now enjoys watching his partner have sex with other men, especially men. of a different race. While the woman is anything but prudish, she found this entire scenario too much even for her. So she decided to end the promising romance quickly, especially since

she was already talking marriage. And he was already talking marriage and was ring shopping. So how do you feel about that, Jackie? We've been singing the praises of this PR couple. And it turns out he likes to cuck. He just loves to cuck. But at least he doesn't love to not vaccinate. I will. I immediately looked it up. He's the next. narrator for a new documentary called Plague of Corruption, which does express skepticism towards vaccines and includes discredited science, but he claims, he's like, I'm not anti-vax, I just did the narration for it. Fuck off, Liam Neeson, that's a stupid excuse.

Yeah, I feel like as you're reading it, I feel like, as someone that also does narration work, I feel like as I'd read it, be like, this is, wait a second, I don't want to be reading this. It doesn't sound like the kind of high, high quality gig that would pay a lot. Or maybe it does, because maybe it is, you know, who knows? Like a big property, yeah, rich persons. I think it is one of those. Yes.

I just can't believe we're still talking about vaccinations. Like, like, move on, guys. I don't know. But you're too distracted by the vaccine to notice this unhinged blind item, Jackie. He has a cuck fetish. How do you feel? He has a cuck fetish. I just feel like it's fine as long as everybody's consenting.

It sounds like everyone didn't love it. She didn't love it. So she left. But I don't think I think she was consenting until she decided she didn't want to do that anymore. And then she left. I'm fine if he wants to cuck again. As long as he wasn't like, and I'm going to cuck you and you will fuck while I cut. Like it's like then, yes, we strike him off the list and we never talk about him ever again.

I know. It's the same thing I have recently with people being like, oh, I can't watch David Harbour in anything anymore. I'm like, he was just a shitty husband. Like, you could still watch shit with him in it. I think he also is a shitty person. I think there is a lot more. I think it's outside. If there's more out,

I know there was the Millie. Okay, so maybe I don't know about some things, but if it's the Millie Bobby Brown stuff, like that stuff got kind of apparently cleared up. There was also some others that, yeah. There's some other stuff. Okay, if it's just based on the Lily Allen's shitty husband stuff

is what I'm basing on. I'm like, you can be a shitty husband and, you know what I mean? It seems that that is helping people put other things together. and other things come to light. And I'm no stranger to that sort of thing. Whoa, it's not a stranger thing to you. Come on. It's not a stranger thing to me.

Come on. Of it being like, no, it's like a cumulation. Accumulation of things. Yes. Yes. It's like a lot of things that add up. So it's hard to hit it hard. I'll look more into it.

So don't email anybody. I'll look more into that before I have that take. Yes. But Liam Mason, it's like, aside from his peeing problem, which we have discussed extensively. Him and Pamela seemed so wholesome, and I was just surprised to see a cuck item. But, you know, there it is. He's tired, MJ.

He just wants to sit back and watch it happen. Yeah, all right. You know, sometimes you just want to jerk off in a chair, like holding. Yeah, I don't really do chairs off. No, you jerk off into the toilet. We all know this. I do Superman pose. But what I was like to say, I like dink.

Your arms are out? Your arms are out and your legs are out. When I'm actually jizzing, this is like, it's going, and I do that. You get it going. And then you get into position. And then do you float? Like, is it like the Superman kiss? Like, do you also float?

Yeah, Superman jis. I don't know. I'm tired. Blind number three. This is for you, Holden. I guess one of the ways you avoid fighting is just to sleep in completely different locations when one of you had a very bad night. Oh, oh, Travis Kelsey. I love, I love the Kylie, Kelsey.

I love the joke of, which we'll call it, of, of, yeah, if, if, if my, my fiance's, if our combined wealth is $1.67 billion and her share of that is $1.6 billion. I think I'd be pretty fucking chill, too, and not gauzny fights. Yeah. But that said, yeah, you posted that clip, I guess they got back around to talking about that whole kind of silly statement. I feel like it's an amateur. It's a relationship amateur statement,

in my opinion, to say, oh. For those of you that are unaware, it's that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift claim that they've not had a fight in the couple years. It's two and a half years, right? They've been together. Which, like, because they were talking to George Clooney

on the Heights podcast, and George Clooney keeps saying this about him and Amal, and it is the only annoying thing about him and Amal that they keep saying this. And then, yeah, Travis was like, oh, yeah, me neither. And then Kylie Kelsey was like, me and my husband fight. And, yeah, we fight plenty. Yeah.

And, but, you know, but then she was even like, we don't fight too much just every now and again, and we don't yell. I'm like, uh-huh. Yeah, I saw how he handled that, like, guy, you know, taking, filming him on the street. I'm sure he never gets heated. And also, Travis, one of the biggest red flags of me is when I see him screaming at that defensive coach. and that's multiple occasions

that I'm like this guy might have some shit going on that's going to be make a marriage maybe a little scary at times for sure

but yeah I was in a relationship for three years and we never fought and that was why we broke up broke up yeah that's why you broke up

like she like refused to fight and we like you know just didn't have you know we never like had these kind of breakthroughs that we needed

in communication right you kind of have to have some time by like scrapping it out a little bit by oiling up, oil GHB in there and grappling and grappling each other and grappling each other.

That's what we should be bringing to the holiday season. Holiday train. I bet it might help the holiday train, I guess. I ran a holiday train on a woman in college. Notice I say woman to not be confused about that point. We all know you didn't. We all know the. I did actually, you're right.

I literally, like, the one night, an actual orgy broke out in my, like, in the theater school. Yeah, you weren't a part of it. It was like the one party I didn't go to. And there was, there was, there was, there was, there was, you don't even know if there was anal. There was. I heard all about it. You don't know.

You don't know that. I heard all of, yes. Just because it's Florida, and maybe some people are trying to keep their virginity. You know what I mean? I'd love to see the confirmation. I just feel bad. for my neighbors, but it was like the middle of a day on like a Sunday. And they were like sweaty and stuff. And I'm like, oh, this isn't good. I know that they weren't like this

before. Well, and Lexi was like, yeah, I saw them the day before. And they were like so glazed over their eyes. And apparently it's, like, are you talking about the, the, the, your neighbors again? With the nitrous. Yeah. And apparently it's a new girl he's with. So I'm thinking maybe that was kind of a new girl. She's bringing the nitrous around. They're just getting, they're living that crazy life that always blows me away. Like, how do you not have? that moment of clarity where you're like, I think this might be a bad idea. I feel you're becoming like a rear window.

I'm worried about like what you're creating in the world. I gotta keep my head in a swivel. I've got a girl on a train right now. You're getting like this is all very scary. It is giving girl on a trade. Thank you for that reference. Holden becoming girl in a trade for his nitrous using neighbors. It's crazy.

It's crazy. Everything's crazy right. Everything feels like that right now. Everything feels like a neighbor. Everything feels like a neighbor. on nitrous like the world feels like a neighbor on nitrous. You're right. That's true. That is true. Wild shit. And happy holidays, everybody. I hope you have a real jingle jangle jangle fucking time. Yeah, man. I'm going to be miserable. Yeah. Jackie did hold holden, um, I could see if I was a teacher and I was giving him

his glows and grows today. You know, I could see him trying. He did try. Trying hard to to do try to approach this show after this horrible celebrity tragedy with gravitas. Um, and so I I'm wondering, did he stay on the nice list or did he slide down to the naughty list? I'm feeling, come, come, comey and doing some anal too. Yeah, he's on the naughty list. I know it's a surprise everybody. It is a surprise everybody. Coming up, coming up, coming up, come it up, let's go, let's jizz in the snow.

Let's make it off whitening, let's go. Yeah, so, you know, there, you know, honestly, it has nothing to do with the running the train. I wish I could remember exactly the one joke you made about. I think it was my neighbor's murdering me. I wasn't even a joke. It was a real fear. I was fine with that. I was fine with all that.

It was you threw in the word Reiner at some point while you were doing it. And that is what put you on the naughty list. And by the way, if anything did offend you, it's because Jackie did a poor job of controlling me. So let her know. Yes, please. Let me email her, let her know how bad you was it controlling me. And, you know, she'll really love seeing that. in a year of tragedy that she's faced.

She'll really like getting a shitty email from you after this really difficult year she's had. So please, please, right in. You know, but also, you know, Conan's also having a bad year, too. But I, it's time for Jackie Snackies. Oh, interesting. I've been a Snacky girl. Snacky, I've been a snacky girl.

Snacky, I've been a snacky girl. Snacky, I've been a snacky, snacky, snacky. Is somebody going to eat that? those chips. Is somebody going to dip those dips? Is somebody going to try those candies? I got seminar. They say I'm a snack lead. Yeah, and you don't even get the song. You wish you could hear how sexy the song. Have you ever heard our themes to the Jackie Snacky's theme song? Oh, I bet. It's really good. I'm good. Yeah, it's chips. Chips. I bet it. I don't want to hear the song. You guys sort of do it. You already heard it. I need everybody. Okay. And I'm sorry, Holden. So,

some of us in this studio, meaning me and Adam, are going to be this is a soft blob. We're doing a soft lob today because I get really excited. I know I'm not like the other snack fluencers. I get really excited when the little Debbie Christmas cake trees come out. And for those of you, I know you know exactly the ones I'm talking about. This is like a snack fluencers craze. They go nuts for them. People take these, the little Debbie Christmas cakes that we all grew up with, and they take them, they turn them into like cake pops and they do other things with them and they get obsessed with them.

But I was also really excited because I feel like this is the first time I've ever seen it. They're doing nutty buddies from the North Pole so it's the outside of the Christmas tree cakes, but the inside is nutty bodies. Great. And I need everyone to know I've already eaten an entire box of these. to go out and buy more, and that's because they really do just taste like nutty buddies. And, spoiler alert, I love nutty buddies. But unfortunately, Holden, you made, you know, the eye lingered. Oh, I don't get a fucking snack if I don't.

No, no, no. Oh, you're getting a snack. The eye it lingered too much. You know what? I'm going to say it also has to do with the AI that you've been really getting into, like the AI, the horniness that you've been experiencing. Now, a couple of weeks ago on the show, we got into some Thanksgiving-flavored Oreos. Okay.

And there were a couple in there that we didn't get to yet that I'd love to try. But there's one that we did try that I'm going to let you know I saved it for you. Okay. Let's just lay it on me. And this is because I made it to the naughty list. Yes. It's because you're on the naughty list. Which was an impossibility for me to make it on the nice list.

Yeah, we all knew this to be the case. She had this whole scheme from the beginning, Holden. Yeah, so, uh, so I'd like you to eat this cookie here. Right. Can you tell me what it is? You're going to, I think you'll, you'll find out. Yeah, I can already smell. Yeah, what do you smell? Yeah, what do you smell? I think it's gravy?

It's given a little gravy-ish, yeah. You should get him a little nutty-buddy Christmas tree to chase, Jackie. Do you want a chaser, Holden? Uh, yeah, I guess. You want a nutty buddy chaser or do you want a Christmas tree? Yeah. He's nutty buddy, normal. North Poles look cute as hell.

All right. We ready? Wait. Hold. Okay. Sorry, Holden. We, you know, what an educator would do is set you up for a success instead of failure, but we're not. Yeah, exactly.

I feel like this is completely a con job. I mean, I'm here to literally destroy the show. That's what I do here. Okay. No, this was a con job from the beginning. Yes, no, we're all ready for you to try it. And now this is, Holden, this is turkey and stuffing. Oreo.

Wow, he has it in his mouth and he is chewing and he's not running away. He's not heaving. He's not heaving. Wow. Holden. Did you go back for another bite? Oh, my God. With the smell, you're fine with it?

No. It smells like another bite. The most putrid. Can I have another one? You, no, you're lying. You're going to be so upset later. Wow. When you are burping this up for the next two days straight.

Because what you don't know about this cookie. He ate the entire cookie. What you don't know is that Holden, the problem is not when you eat it. It's later. It sounds like the problem is when you eat it as well. At least it was for Jackie and Natalie. I feel like it's really truly horrific. And he's trying to, because he's on the naughty list, he's trying to pretend like this isn't horrific.

He ate the whole thing. I think COVID took my sense of pain. Can you not taste how horrible that is? You go walking the apartment and be like, it smells awful in here. And I'll be like, I don't know what you're talking about. I cannot smell it. Like, we'll walk in fresh to the apartment. And I'll just be, I think I just COVID completely, I think between that and just smoking.

What, you can't, I just diagnosed. All of my taste is back. I stopped smoking years ago. You are a nightmare person. It sounds like you're attacking. Sounds like you're attacking. Yeah, do we have another one of those? Wow.

No, you don't, no, you get a different kind. You, you're supposed. with the cake. Oh, now he gets the little Christmas cake. Now he gets your little Christmas cake. This is better. This is better.

I mean, obviously it's much better. The Christmas cake is what you want. Yeah, I do think. I think COVID took my, which I don't mind. Yeah. Which I feel like I smell worse things than like, like bad things I smell more than good things

to a point where I'd rather just not deal with it. I just, Adam and I are both actively, like, disgusted just by being in the same room as it. I can't believe. This is my life. Yeah, and it's horrible. It really smells like rotten dog food. It is so horrific.

Another great thing about having long-term COVID that kills your taste and smell. I can just live on dog food now. I just eat it now. I can also like to try. Now, this one is we've got, we also have caramel apple pie. You want to try sweet potato? Because I feel like sweet potato might not be as obnoxious. Excuse me, noxious.

You know, I'm good. I don't think I need another entire candy thing. I think you might want to try the sweet potato. Just to make sure. I just want to make sure that maybe the sweet potato, maybe that's what. Oh, it smells very sweet, though. Yeah, I'll bet it's fine. But you can't taste anything.

I don't even know why I'm giving this to you. If you're just a dog. This smells stronger to me than the other one. And that one you're not going to finish, but you finish the turkey one. I didn't fool over here. You fucking plowed me in the sweets. What am I? What are you?

Battening me up for the fucking turkey dinner? Maybe in the end we're going to stick in a oven. Did you hear about my butter injections? I'm going to put the GHB oil in it too. And you're not going to feel a thing. It's lunchtime. And I'm eating a bunch of candy. You're not going to feel a thing.

I, you're all also allowed to have if you want one of the nutty buddies. I don't know if you're in a fan of Nutty Buddy. I'm good. I'm eating three. I don't never try. I'm trying to plump you up. I don't ever do that. Let me plop you up.

I don't even, I'm not even much of a dessert guy in general. I know you're not. I was going to bring you chips because I know you're more of my savory boy. But these, you know, I love the Christmas tree cakes. Next time bring me burgers, damn it. I'll bring you burgers next time. All right. Well, thank you for having me.

Love to the turkey. No, MJ. Is it my turn? Oh, yeah. Eat it up. Everything they stack. MJ's in my cheese. Ooh.

You know, when. Jake comes on, Jake brings us Jakey Slakies and brings us drinks. He kills it. I mean, he's really, he's doing a really good job of like attempting to just be a permanent third. He's doing a very good job. He's like making a play.

He's doing a very good job. I thought I was, hey man, if you pull this off, that'd be, I won't be upset at all. That's incredible. This is, I am eating the Cheetos Flaminat Lemon, but baked. I thought they took these stupid baked chips away in the 90s because they were full of a toxin, but they're back. I think you

grease shit them out, but also I feel like in RFKs, America, like, isn't that better than the alternative? I guess I'd rather that. There's like a specific chemical in them that was making everybody very ill, and now they're back. Oh, I'm sure they put even more in it now. It's probably got extras dusted with it. I was like

thinking, like, yeah. How is the limon? Is the loom? Like, is it just giving citrus or is it actually giving? I mean, I've had the flamen hot limon of the regular Cheetos, and they're great. You get the, it's like more like a taki. But I don't know what is happening with these, but they taste shitty. Give me the texture. Like, is it a similar texture because they are baked?

The crunch, they look like a Cheeto. They're crunched like a Cheeto. They smell like a Cheeto, but they taste wrong. You know, that's kind of how I feel in general about stuff that gets labeled baked. I mean, it's never like as good as, you know, like the, the real thing. You're right. Yeah, I want it to be. I wanted to be, but I was really rude for those. It like numbs the, it like numbs the taste or something like it puts the snack on like opiates or something yeah but at the same time remember the snack wells i feel like i know i bring up specifically the devil's food cake snack wells but like that i remember i felt like we ate them every day and it was and it was like the reduced fat you know but it was kind of like eating like flame retardant like packing peanuts you know and so you know

i mean i feel like it is very yes um it's like is this better now we know they weren't they were not Good for you, yes. Maintenance phase did a deep dive on snack wells and on baked chips and both of them. Oh my God, did they really? Yeah, yeah. And I think both of them turned out to be bad for the health. But again, they're back. But they're back. They're back and they're bad. So don't get them. Yeah. Hell yeah. Sounds like a bunch of big scary boy dogs. They're back and they're bad. And now we can thank Holden for being here. Yes. Thank you, Holden. Check out of Her To Mouth and my Twitch stream, Hold Nader's Ho. I mean, if you're real, is this come out on Wednesday?

If you're real on top of it. Thursday. Okay, there you go. Well, I'm going to try to get these two to do a Cats Watch along with me. So we're going to do that, hopefully, when I get back in town. We may. I love to figure it out, but also Holden producer of Bloodbath over on YouTube.com slash at LPNTV. Check it out every Wednesday.

I'm so proud of how it turned out. You guys crushed the. the final couple episodes as well. So we stuck the landing, I feel. So, yeah, please worry not about getting invested in it because I think it really fully lands it. And you guys are going to be pretty happy with the outcomes. Hell yeah.

Please check it out. And thank you again so much, Holden. Sorry that we all knew you were going to be on the naughty list regardless. And I guess I'm sorry to everyone that he's got a bad mouth and he didn't suffer from it. Um, so I love all you guys so much. Don't worry. We'll be back with second helpings tomorrow. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram. Oh, Instagram. Yeah, it's only my legs. Yeah, you got to go over to Instanese if you just want that, ooh, that cap, goodage. But, um, you can follow me at Jack, that worm, but also come hang out on the page seven Patreon.

Because we've got our holiday roundup over there and you've got to hear. Oh, my God, guys. you've got to hear me pitch the movie Newport Christmas to MJ so go check that out over on the page 7 Patreon it is bat shit and please also check out bloodbath every Wednesday

we've got new episodes and I you know not to suck my own neck over here but I feel like we did a pretty great job and I think you guys I think you might like it oh my God you're going through the entire don't worry we'll do it in second helping Okay.

I'm going to say we have to do think you might like it. I'm going to plan for you. I think you might like it. It's called a holiday train. We love reading your emails, page seven podcast at gmail.com. We love you guys. Holden. We love you the most.

We miss you. Thank you for coming back. Come back soon. Thanks so much for having me. Yeah. And we will see you guys tomorrow for second helpings. Bye. Bye, everyone.

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