Page 7 - How Dare You w/ Seena Ghaznavi

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

This week Jackie and MJ are joined by Seena Ghaznavi and Jackie wants errryone to play with 'er dingaling! The parents are celebratin' toilet times and teachin' chants that are STILL relevant to everybody, then we're talkin' 'bout different toilet times with COACHELLA NEWS! Which just proves those Krazy Kardashians are EXTREMELY outta touch, Jackie's opinion gets swayed on that very stripped-down $10mil performance by The Bieber that was clearly a ripoff of Jackin', Sabrina Carpenter did a great job headlinin' but made an UH-OH that was causin' discourse online. Katy Perry is currently being investigated for sexual assault allegations from Ruby Rose, heads up about readin' the description that was posted about it. Then in AN ABRUPT TURN WE ALL NEED, we got a list of "10 Actors Who Said "No" To Filming Sex Scenes, Vs. 10 More Who Have Gone Full Commando Onscreen", blinds that give a lil 2 much credit, a Jackie's Snackies full of gummy gaggin' @ 1:17:16.056 plus an MJ's Minute Munchies that reminds us why chicken is not pretzels @ 1:27:19.813 until 1:31:26.577, plus even more on this week's Page 7! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey everybody, this is Amber and Ed from the Brighterside Podcast. Yes, the team that has brought you HGX2. Boo-boo. We're coming back hard. Thursday, April 16th, 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Pacific. Ah! ha ha ha. YouTube.com slash at LPNTV. And just so you know, it's no longer live.

But there will be a live chat during the premiere. That's right. Are you ready to get your dome blown? It's HGN. X2. Watch it or die. We'll see you Thursday, April 16th, 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Pacific. It's going to be on right after a last stream left. You cowards!

We got ourselves a great old song today and maybe it goes out to somebody little that's getting a little bit of party training on. When I was a little bitty boy, my grandmother bought me a cute toy. Silver bells hanging on a string She told me it was my dingling My dingling My dingling I want you to play with my dingling

My dingling My dingling I want you to play with my dingling And that is not what the child You know what? I didn't realize it after Until after I started singing it That it sounds like the child is asking for that But I'm not, this is a Chuck Berry song

This is the song of a full grown man that I'm singing. But it's not... Wait, that's a real song. It's a real song. It's Chuck Berry's song. Oh, yeah. I like...

Oh, yeah, Sina. Reality is so much scarier than any joke. No, I didn't... Yeah, I didn't come up with this. You asked, Cita, can we talk about your son's body training? But you should have asked, can I sing the song, My Dingling? My Dingling in reference to your son's successful potty training that we were all experiencing. And I love that we all got to change.

aunt. I forget it every time. We listen to our body, peepie in the potty, right? Listen to our body, peepie in the potty. And we were all chanting that at Springsgiving. And Kota was just, oh my God, the smile on his face. Just killing it. You've got two in the toilet. And MJ you got two in the toilet. How are we feeling today, parents? It's a big milestone. I mean, might have been in the toilet for years now, but I'm very happy to see that. They've been in the toilet. They've been in the toilet. You've had your time in the toilet, but this is, this is a new, new father. Welcome to the world. And now, do you feel at all like it is, like entering a home where people have taught their cats how to pee using the toilet? Uh, no, because, uh, it's still chaos. He still

Oh, yeah. Like, he's still tearing things. He's still a two-year-old, so he's still a maniac. But he does not like the feeling of pee-pee or poo in his pants. Me neither. Is the best lesson that he can learn in his life where he's like, no, he's like, party, party, party. And he runs to the potty.

Get that potty. And it's fantastic. So you need to teach him how to push the penis down, which is I thought you were kind of referencing with play with my dingling. Oh. I'm like in the trunk of a. car with the hatch open and he's peeing in the little potty and then I'm like at the natural history museum and I got my finger down there pushing trying to push it down you got to aim it down you got to aim it causebo was like I got hit the face dealer down so you got to push it down

you gotta push it down does anyone remember anyone meaning Jackie do you remember the I feel like hilarious Baldwin said something like specifically disturbing about about all of having so many sons and how they piss everywhere. And I know I'm not doubting the experience of Hilaria Baldwin. I'm sure if you have five sons or whatever, there's piss everywhere. But I think she said it in a way where you're like, I think you got to do something about all that piss, you know, like at some point. No, no, no, she said, Dios, me, yeah.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No, see, oh, so this is, oh my God, she's not like the other moms. You know what she does? She lifts up the toilet seat. and there's a large sticker on the underside

that says keep calm and lift the toilet seat before you pee. That's all she has to do. Guys, that's it. She just puts one of those Keep calm stickers on it, guys. Ooh, the rage, the rage, I feel. Yeah, if you thought about,

have you guys thought about putting the keep calm sticker? He would be all over. Yeah, that's, then it's just a bull's on. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Because I hear that, that I hear that if you are able to direct the stream of urine, it really is the most fun to try to hit things with it.

So I imagine do you have any kind of bullseye in there that you got to have them aim for? With Hero, my oldest one we were doing it, I put a little cheerio in the toilet, and then we would pee together. Oh, so that was fun. That is fun. Oh, that's cute.

That is fun. Caps in the cradle of the surface. Pissing with my son. Yeah, on a cheerioa. And then Coda looked at me. Last week, he goes on spring break for two weeks. We went from, and now he's successfully doing it. But we're talking, we went a long way.

At one point, he was looking at me directly in the eyes and just peeing right in front of me on the carpet. Yeah. And he's just smiling. Hell yeah. The Joker. Yeah. Yeah. How about this one?

Papa don't pee because I'm in trouble. You know, we could do this. Wow. Yes. A lot of songs about. dads. Any kind of urine. Yeah. We're singing about it here on page seven. Yes. My dingling. Even though technically the song is about a toy, you know, and Chuck Barry was being a little silly with Chuck Barry's words. But I'm glad that we're talking about this piss house over here. Yeah. Because, you know, nobody's talking about teaching me out of piss in the toilet. And I'm sad about it because I want the memories of, ah, Jackie, when she pisses in the toilet.

Everyone cheers. I miss it. I feel like it's sad that we don't do this for each other as adults. Every time I see somebody to leave the bathroom, I think we should start high-fiving people. And maybe it'll be as a way to check to make sure that they wash their hands. But I think it also could help for other things. Now, before we get into our big topics this week, because we have a lot of things going on. Of course, we've got Coachella going on this weekend.

And I do always now want to complain. as an Angelino because they always pretend like Coachella is this time when everybody leaves L.A. It's a magical time. That's not true. It's still very, very busy here. I don't know why there's all these memes that are like, enjoy L.A. these two weekends. Why? Because all the youths are gone.

I don't know about y'all, but I don't spend time where the youths are. It's not like New York and August where it like truly does feel like disturbingly empty. Yes, exactly. Not like that. Yeah. Portos is still packed. Yeah. Oh, everything is still packed.

But don't worry. There's lots of people out there just live in their best lives. Now, Sina, you were saying this a little bit before we started recording. And MJ, have you ever been to one of these? Like, I've done Bonaroo before. Have you done one of these kind of big festivals? You know my answer, Jackie. I know your answer.

I've only been to warp tour. I know you've only been a warp tour. All right. Okay. All right. Listen, I don't come and piss on your interests, Sina. We're not your children. How does corn?

Corn, how dare you? Also, corn puts on a great show, by the way. I saw the family values. I saw the family values store and corn does great, all right? You want to know how corn is. You ask Jackie. You want to know how, I don't know, the Atari's were. Ask me.

Okay. But, no, I've never done a Burning Man or a Coachella. Although I am the person I never know when Coachella is happening. And then I just see the videos coming in. And I'm like, oh, fun. You know, and then I just enjoy it. I'm, look at them having fun. You know, Katzai and Huntrick sang together.

And I was like, oh, fun. And then there was a bunch of blinds about Katzai. And I was like, oh, okay, maybe not fun. I don't know. Oh, maybe not fun. But I enjoy the, I enjoy the Coachella. Coachella looks fun to me. But I hear what you guys are saying is that we're too old to go to Coachella.

Is that right? I fear that we're either too old or not billionaires. I think it's like you have to be one or the other because you're watching the Kylie Jenner. So Kylie Jenner did this, what people are calling dystopian view of like a whole run-through of the full estate that Kylie Jenner and all of her friends were having a field day at, at Coachella. And it really is crazy to me that celebrities think that there are.

like, you know what I'm going to do? You know what I'm going to do while nobody can afford gas and nobody can like, and like there's a war going on and everything. I'm going to put up a tour through my Coachella house. And it's just, I know, it's like I'm over here. I'm trying to write a cryptid fuck game. I understand. But it's like, it's not that I'm putting, you know, six figs into going for a week.

You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like it's, I know it has nothing to do with each other. It's just watching it happen, it makes me realize that's not a place for me, I don't think. We're six months out from The Hunger Games. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they are, like, they are, it's all related.

And yes, like, the weird thing, it's like, I'm sure for Sina right now, it's like the weird thing about life is like you're looking at whatever's close to you. You're like, my son's not pissing on the carpet. And then you look up. and as a member of the Iranian diaspora, you look up and you're like, oh, shit, you know. And like, all of us, it's like, we're looking at whatever thing we're working on in our life and we're like, okay, this is what's going on.

And then you look up and you're like, oh, fuck. But, you know, and then you realize that everything, nobody, you know, everything is bad and, you know, nobody can afford anything. But whatever the Jenners are doing, you know, they just never look up. They're just like, we're, everyone will enjoy this video of us touring a mansion.

Like, why wouldn't they? And I find, I don't expect celebrities. I don't want the Jenners to weigh in on the war. No. It's so tone-deaf when everyone is struggling to pay their bills to just be like, come on my house tour, you know. Well, this is the problem where you don't have real friends and your friends are your employees. Right.

And when that ends up happening, you don't have anyone to actually say, Hey, this is a, this is a bad idea. Right. especially because it's not even like, oh, they rented this house. No, it's one of that many estates that they own. Oh, they moved that house. Yeah. So it's not even, this is, no, this is just one of the many estates they own out by Coachella.

Yeah. 11.9 months out of the year. Yes. And one of the homes that they have that ranges between three and 12 million dollars each. So it is so. you look at it and you just think, what is happening? And then everyone's like screaming because you just brought up Hunger Games. And there's a new Hunger Games movie coming out down the pipeline called Sunrise on the Reaping.

I have not read this. I'm not familiar with the story at all. But watching all of the pictures come out for it, what is the difference between what's going on with that? And everything that currently, that I was just like, I can't believe that there's still, wow. We're still pretending like all of that is real fake, huh? Okay, but you know, I know it's fake. I know it's fake. I'm not a crazy person.

I'm just kind of losing my mind a little bit, guys. Respectfully so, of course. In the future, the next Hunger Games would just be CNN. It's live streamed. Yeah. It's just going to be. I mean, really, it's like the Lucille Bluth joke, you know, it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost $10?

But, like, we are, I think that, like, even when arrested of all that was made, I think we have become so much more income stratified since then. So it's like, I feel it's like we're going to be at the situation where it's like, everybody but the Jenners is poor, you know? Like that's why it feels so different to be like everyone is struggling right now except for just this elite tier, right? Yeah. I had a burger and fries and a Coca-Cola, not even a diet. Oh, how dare you? Whoa.

Full cow when the war's, I mean, when in war. I feel like if you can't, you know, it's like if you're not going to be drafted, then you may as well have the calories, you know. I say pack it on. $42. Yeah. And I was like, I just started laughing. I was like, well, this is why. And I don't go out to, this is why I don't go out to law.

I don't go out. Especially with the kids. You don't go. It's just. So do you think that then in this case, do you think that it makes sense that Justin Bieber got paid $10 million to perform at Coachella to stand on the stage and play YouTube videos, MJ? Oh, okay.

this is where I'm going to be, my hypocrite is going to swing it on a chandelier and I'm going to say, Justin Bieber deserves that $10 million. I have no problem with that. I thought that Justin Bieber's, well, whatever, I don't literally mean, he could get less money. But I loved his Coach Ellis set. I thought it was wonderful and beautiful. And Jackie is a Scrooge McDuck. Yeah, I am.

She hates child, inner child healing, I guess. Quack, quack. Put me in the fucking gold coins, bitch. I'm going. diving. He played YouTube videos of his younger self and looked back at his younger self and harmonized with his younger self, Jackie. You got a problem with it? I just think that it's very difficult to watch people put on such a crazy show. And you're right. It takes balls to go up there just in basketball shorts and looking up

like the chat from Coachella to be like, what's the chat want me to play? Like we're on Jackin on Fridays. And it's just, it's the thing is, it's the $10 million part of it. That I think that is what

annoys me. Because I feel like there could have been so much of that like that could have been set up that like people could have been like bringing other artists like put that like those videos together and like making. And I understand he wanted to do something fluid, something real, something present.

And I know I'm probably going to get a lot of heat for this because there's genuinely a lot of people that are like, it was brilliant what he did. He's a genius. And then there's the me's of the $10 million to stand on the stage and look up YouTube videos. But I know that I'm a thousand years old. How much did Grimes get paid for her weird Coachella set where she couldn't figure out how to DJ?

Seena Grimes couldn't, like they were, like Grimes was having a lot of technical issues with their performance. And every time they, it wasn't playing properly and every time it wouldn't play properly, they would make this, like scream, guttural scream sound that was just so upsetting. It's just like, you know, that's not helping the performance at all. So you're right, MJ. And I don't know how much Grimes got paid for that, but at least that. probably not 10 million. But that was also something that Grimes had set up to be a performance that wasn't going well. And I feel like Bieber didn't.

I'm so interested in this take, Jackie, because, yes, I hear what you're saying about the level of, like, respect for the stage and the craft of performing and, like, that preparing a set is a part of that. But also, you are very familiar with the world of improvisation and that there is an intention to that. Yes. And I understand. I think it's hard because we Put him in Dynasty Typewriter. You want to do this shit? Like honestly,

do this shit in these like cool, like small spots where people get these cool, vulnerable experiences with you. You're on, you're being live stream in front of millions. It's like it, and I understand. And MJ,

I'm not saying you're completely wrong. I'm not like, that's bullshit. And I'm not saying that. Right. I understand the artistry of, of him doing this, I did like what he did with the, with the Grammys. I liked that performance at the Grammys.

I did like this lo-fi of what, and he's in the middle of doing this huge Netflix docu-series about him right now. So this is all going to be, and like why he's doing it the way that he's doing it, it's all going to be coming out in this show. So I'm fascinated to watch it. And I know that he's been through so much

because he's been, He's been through a lot of like health issues, a lot of physical health issues, a lot of mental health issues. Trauma. Trauma as well as like becoming a parent and lots of, lots of, lots of changes in his life. It's just a $10 million. How much would you have paid him? Because you don't know what he's going to do when you book him. Right.

You don't know. I guess in my brain, I know that he needs the money, but he sold his whole catalog. So I imagine they're doing fine. It's like a low, very small case need. Small case. Part of me is like, and I not to not, maybe this is just me showing me, but it's like, he could have donated it. Oh.

He could have like taken it and put it somewhere. Like it's like if you're going to be in the middle of doing this Netflix thing and like you're going to be trying new, like, I feel like that could have been an opportunity to do something like that. I, I, I hear you. You know? I mean, I think what we are all agreeing is that we want, we want to. Justin Bieber to like maybe be a better person as an adult.

And, and also we like maybe want, you know, the money that artists, the famous people get paid to be. But I just, I don't know, I think that given,

like, given, I don't know, I think that him looking, we, what we know now is like the fucked up adult Justin Bieber, who's like in the blinds every week for like drug use and is in like troubled, but still going marriage.

And we all saw him do his like, early 20s crash out and all of that. And I just think that the maybe it's nostalgic of me because I remember when baby came out. It was my first year teaching in New York City Public Schools. And those like, and he was just a kid. And I there's something about this man who has been through so much looking at the kid and singing with him and being. And so I don't know, I thought it was artistic. Yes. Oh yeah. No, no, definitely artistic. I'm not. I'm not. saying it's not our disson. Just not the 10 million worth.

I think you're going to, listen, we are in a world of strange capitalism. I like that he made this choice because it is the antithesis of the big pomp and circumstance that everyone expects of him. So it's one unexpected, two very vulnerable. And three, I don't think he owes anyone anything, frankly. He could just be, not to be all Freudian, but all his job is is just to be. And like that is all I think he needs to do. I would never in a million years want to trade places with him.

Oh, no. Never. Oh, no. And it's like, I can't imagine. Listen, let's also think about this for a second. He did a show where he had videos of himself on the screen. Would we rather have that or come to Justin Bieber's house where he has a amusement park with animals and a service? Yeah.

Yeah. Is that what you want? No. It's how I want. He'll donate his fees to the kids. To that point, to that point regarding him selling his catalog because there was a blind this week and I wanted to find out more about him selling the catalog.

But the blind says the north of the border singer has a problem. The buyer of his catalog wants him to sing those songs, his older songs that make him money. But when the singer performs them, it takes him back to the days of very bad things happening to him. Oh, okay. And so I thought, I mean, obviously, this is a blind who the fuck knows. But I thought that that was interesting. And just that, like, I don't know. I think from a, from a, like, from a mental health perspective, I think like the idea of being this traumatized adult who was traumatized in the public eye and then looking at your innocent self.

Like those YouTube videos before he was even famous. Right. And then when he did baby, when he sang along with baby, I was like, oh, okay, we're doing that too. But like, you know, when he was just a YouTube kid. And yeah, and it's also weird because now there's, I forget that he's like an adult now. And all these adults are like, I remember being a kid and watching these YouTube videos. And so, yeah, I just think that, that I think when it comes to Coachella, if what the best, especially with Coachella is when something interesting happens.

And like that was why. And we are talking about it. I mean, like, because Sabrina Carper did a bang up job headlining. I love that last year she literally said, and next, like, next time you see me, I'll be headlining Coachella and she is and I love that. I think that it is so many people are, which we shouldn't, are comparing the big spectacle of Sabrina Carpenter to what Justin Bieber did. But honestly, you both are changing how I'm feeling about it because you're right. We are talking about it.

And if he had just done a regular show, like what would that be? What growth would that have shown for him? And I do understand that. Yeah. I just, and I appreciate both of you sharing that perspective for me because you're right. He is an artist that has been like through so much and, you know, while seemingly dealing with many, many things. So it's like, so he has sold the catalog. The catalog, though, right?

Yeah, I think this, that was one of those things where I saw this and I was like, this is actually something that I would, when it comes to like all the music rights and stuff, like I prefer Holden to explain. it to me. So I cannot speak authoritatively on that. But I also, since you brought up Sabrina Carpenter and you also included the other, she was getting dragged for a couple of days because her response to this

this audience member doing this Zagruda, yes. Zagruda. And you asked Jackie like, why did this disappear? But I actually think that her apology is actually a pretty good one. I think it is too. And I think that that

I'm hoping that's why. it disappeared, but you never know in the cycle of celebrity, you never know why things disappear and why they don't disappear and there's usually a reason for it. And it was just crazy because it was everywhere right after it happened. For those that are on, that are not familiar with what happened, essentially Sabrina Carpenter was hearing Zagruta's in the audience. She did not know what it was. I am paraphrasing right now, but while she was on stage, she was like, I don't know what that is. Stop doing that because she didn't know what it was. And found out afterwards because, of course, the internet was just like, you, like, you, how dare you?

That's so insensitive. And she immediately was like, I'm very sorry. I did not realize I was just on stage in the middle of performing and did not realize, and I'm very sorry. Now I know what it's a Gruda is and I apologize. And she also made a joke of it. She's like, I accept all Zagruta's and yodels of all kinds. And that's like fantastic. Because she thought it was a yodel.

She literally, like, it had nothing to do with the, like, with the actual culture of it. She was like, are you yodling? Why is the audience yodling right now? And so that was when she was on stage. But then it was like, this story was everywhere. And then all of the Bieber stuff took over this story. And part of me was happy because you guys know that the internet sometimes can choose, especially right now, there are certain things that, like, she would be.

ripped, ripped, ripped apart for for the next week. And she was getting ripped. And I do, yeah, I think it's like, I think it was, I think it was fair that people were upset because she did say, like, I don't like it. I don't like, people were yelling. It's like, it's culture. And she was like, I think she always said, I don't like your culture or something. She said, she said, that's your culture.

It's yodeling. Is this Birmingham, man? What's going on? That's what she said. That's so funny. But I think that, you know, as we've all been on stage with. She has come out and says, my apologies, I didn't see this person with my eyes and couldn't hear clearly. My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm, and not ill-intended.

I could have handled it better. Now I know what is the Gruda is. I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on. Totally. And we've all been on stage with lights on our eyes. And you're trying to make jokes. You don't know what's happening. She's headlining Coachella.

I mean, it's like there's a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. I think there was an, I think I understood why people were upset. Also, people can sometimes, people online, surprise, can have a very ungenerous reaction to something. And so yeah, I actually thought this was like this little tweet was a masterclass in how a celebrity can apologize. Acknowledge the harm. Say that you're sorry and then make a little joke about it and keep it moving.

And then you get to be like Sabrina Carpenter did great instead of Sabrina Carpenter was a racist at Coachella. Yeah, yeah. And maybe, you know, but I don't know if that is true for everybody that they can just apologize and move on. And I'm going to say that that's probably true for Katie Perry. I have to bring this story up. This is a When I first read it It was just like

Why? Because you know here on page 7 We joke around about Katie Perry quite a bit It's our man's why You know There's Katie Perry is really fallen

From society's grace She's even like All of the pictures of her from Coachella We're just like Her and Justin Trudeau And she's just like Look at us We're the happiest

I'm so happy That we're together You see I need never need Leggles again. It's like, yeah, I know. We know, girl. Yep, you're so happy with Justin Trudeau. Okay. Katie Perry's rep now is strongly denying what Ruby Rose has said. Ruby Rose has claimed, I need to read what happened. Yeah, should we read the... We're talking about Katie Perry, the robot, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The robot, yes. And also Ruby Rose, who there's been, you know, lots

of things have, Ruby Rose has been discussed for many years at this point. And apparently when Ruby Rose was in their early 20s, she said, I'm now 40. It has taken almost two decades to say this publicly, though I am so grateful to have made it long enough to find my voice. It just shows how much of an impact, trauma, and sexual assault takes. Thank you for seeing me. She says, I told this story publicly, but changed it to a funny little drunk story because I didn't know how else to handle it.

later she agreed, which is also part of this, after this happened, Katie Perry agrees to help Ruby Rose get her U.S. visa. So she kept everything a secret. And I'm sorry, I'm trying to find where she's like, I'm in the lap of, so I'm just looking for that line. The actual threads. And interestingly enough, she posted this on threads, which is like the Twitter of Instagram. And I didn't think anyone was on there. Any celebrities were on there. But Ruby Rose basically, right.

It was weird, too, because at first Ruby Rose kind of. of did like a sub-tweet and was like, oh, Katie Perry does sexual assault and everybody was like, what? And then she kind of went more into it and started explaining that this had happened 20 years ago with witnesses. She had, she has alluded to, over the years several times, she has alluded to not trusting Katie Perry, Katie Perry being, you know, having hurt her in the past. So this is something that there is like records for. But I think also part of the reaction to this was like, Ruby Rose, why are you, like, dropping all of this on threads right now, like, in people's replies.

Yes. But, yeah, she describes an incident where she is at the club in her early 20s with, like, kind of trying to get away from Katie Perry. And they were in Australia, I think. And Katie Perry is basically... Okay, found it. She saw me resting on my best friend's lap to avoid her and bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open

and I projectile vomited on her. She said, yeah, not interested in filing a report over this, not when I haven't even filed a report for the numerous rapes at the hands of grown men. So this is what she just was posting. Yeah. And Tina was not expecting that. Yeah. Yeah.

I wish this was a video podcast just so you could see Cina. Just the look of shock on Cina's face. Honestly, God, I thought it was going to be a more transsexual assault. No. A grove. Yeah, I'm taking a picture of Cina. Just, yeah, his fibers are gassed over here. It's a head scratcher.

It is a, it is a surprising thing to read. You're like, what? Because when at first, it's not usually the kind of story. We talk about here on page 7 necessarily, but with Katie Perry, it's just the fact that she said that she, shoved her disgusting vagina in her face that is shocking. Yeah. Yeah.

And I- That Katie Perry has a disgusting vagina? No, just the fact that she did it. And the fact in front of other people. The fact that she would do that in front of other people. And so in the course of these threads, again, it's just, it's very strange that this all, like, because it started with kind of like a vague post. And then Ruby Rose explained.

And then people were asking questions. And Ruby Rose is, like, responding to the question. like I like I actually now I'm going to the police station right now and like like there's other there's like a tweet from 2017 where she doesn't name Katie Perry but it was like in response to a Katie Perry thing and she's talking about bullies so there's like this like very like it's it's a it's just a a kind of like a surprising venue to bring this up I think and like every but also. Yeah, I mean, I don't even really know how to weigh in on it. Like, in these situations, we obviously, like, trust the accuser until, you know, we, like, that is where we lean towards. I don't think there's any reason that Ruby Rose would be, like, getting into this. Yeah, you don't make up that specific of a story. Exactly.

And she says there's witnesses and she says. Pictures. Who'd snap that picture? This happened in public. Right. Yeah, but also like 20 years ago, was Katie Perry, was Katie Perry already famous? Katie Perry's big album came out in like 2011, right? And not to be a nerd or anything like that.

20 years ago, the iPhone came out in 2007. So if there were pictures taken, we're talking about an old camera, like a digital camera or security cameras. So if she has footage, that means it's from very official places, not just someone. snap in one on their iPhone. And yeah, and she says that she has told this story before in public, but had changed it to be kind of funny to cope with it, basically. Sure. And also she said that Katie Perry helped her get her U.S. visa, so she felt kind of like,

you know, entrapped into keeping the secret. But yeah, it's really, Katie Perry, and, you know, Katie Perry's reps are like, well, actually, let's talk about that, because Katie Perry's reps at first denied, which is like, Okay, that's not surprising, but the statement from the reps is completely attacking the character of Ruby Rose saying Ms. Rose has a well-documented history of making serious public allegations on social media against various individuals. It is very damning towards Ruby Rose where it's like, essentially it's like, well, she's a liar. She's a liar. So if you're going to believe a liar, then you may as well go believe a liar. It is very hard in the bait.

but also MJ, I kiss a girl top the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 in 2008. Oh, there you go. Okay, yeah. So that is approximately 20 years ago. Wow, I kissed a girl was 2008. It does feel like a different era. But yeah, I thought that. It was.

MJ, we're just old. I had to break it to you. Yeah, it's just that we're getting older, guys. I mean, if you put out I kissed a girl now, the Zumers would be like, so. Here's a question for both of you. You guys tell me, why don't more celebrities just not say anything? In general? The news moves on.

Yeah. Right. You mean in this case, you mean if Ruby Rose made this allegation, why would Katie Perry's rep? You're Katie Perry. Just treat it like Ruby Rose is crazy and keep it moving instead of making a statement. Oh, you make a statement. You do the attacks. You add so much oxygen into it.

I'm not defending Katie Perry, obviously. I'm just asking you to as people that look at this space a lot of times, why don't you think more celebrities just, just. I think in this kind of instance, it's such a horrific allegation. I feel like that I imagine that her, I would assume Katie Perry as a human being would probably, like I feel like if someone said that kind of thing about me, I'd immediately go out against it, you know, if I 100% obviously knew that it didn't happen. And this got a lot of traction very quickly. even though Ruby Rose is not exactly like a household name, but I think this story got at Katie Perry is. The drama surrounding Ruby Rose, I believe, is usually not too far from any conversation about Ruby Rose.

Because, like, there was all that batwoman conversation, too, that, like, there was a lot of issues that she was having on set. And again, I believe that none of the allegations ended up coming, like nothing ended up happening with it. But there was a lot of, like, he said, she said, it. So that's why I think that Katie Perry's people are like, say she's a liar, she's a liar.

When there's nothing to show that at all. Yeah. Attacking someone's character for a delegation like this, again, like to, like, I think that there is kind of a playbook for this and the playbook should be like We learn this with the Baldoni case. This whole thing with Blake Lively. We know that it was a character assassination.

Right. That they set up like these PR people set up bots to go do these character assassinations of these celebrities online. So it's not even like, oh, the internet. It's like literally, oh, the people paying the bots. That's what it is. And it's so crazy because it's so fervent and it's so everywhere.

And like even down to when I read book reviews that it's like there's so many of them, it's like, oh, these are all like AI written or or picked through to make everything. Look, and I'm just like, what is reality? And the chapel rowan security guard stuff turned out to be like 20. 20% of the tweets about negative tweets about her were bots. But yeah, I just think I think it would be. I imagine probably more than 20%. Yeah, I think it was, but it was like found to have been a bot-fueled kind of internet.

What looked like a grassroots reaction was actually bot-fueled. But yeah, I just think that there is a way. Yeah, again, like I think here we're treating this claim from Ruby Rose is totally credulous. I think there is a way for Katie Perry to be like that didn't happen without then specifically saying, she's. She's a crazy liar, which is what the denial is, which is just nasty and gross. And Katie Perry has obviously had a series of bad PR experiences for approximately two years now. And this is probably the last thing she wanted, but she is handling it horribly.

And that also speaks to her character. And then just on top of it, and they're like, but did you see, Trudeau? Did you see? Did you see them together? I feel like there is just so much of that words like. You like her? It's like, no, it really doesn't. Like, I don't want to call him only blackface Trudeau, but it's like it's difficult not to.

It's just like, in my brain, I don't know anything about Canadian politics, but I do know that one fact about Justin Trudeau. Yeah. So, but then, or am I just as bad as everybody else then? No, I think he didn't do very well in Canada. Yeah. No, I think everyone was pretty mad at him by the time he left. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now he gets to bang.

A robot. A robot. He gets all of that all to himself. Yeah, the, you know, we know that she's not real. We know that she's a robot. And thank you for reminding us. Yeah. Yeah, I forgot that she's a robot. I just always think of her as an astronaut now.

But see, I always think of her as Jean-Beney Ramsey. Yeah. So in my brain, she's also John-Beney. Yeah. Is it, no, is it just John-Beney? Is it Jean? I think it's Jean. John.

John. Yeah. And so do you, have you heard this that she's actually Jean-Beney Ramsey? I think I saw that something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that it's good to remind everyone that, you know, that little girl wasn't just killed. No, no, no, no. No, she's it.

Turned into a superstar. International. Yeah, she went to space, didn't you hear? Yeah. But I guess it's time. It is time for the list. Oh, who's on the list? Me.

Me. Got to have that list. List. Yeah, you do. Oh, do you? Ten actors who said no to filming sex scenes versus 10 who have gone full commando on screen. Oh, geez. Because to start Penn Badgley, now, MJ, remember when you were all wrapped up in you? Oh, yeah, you. Seena, did you ever watch you? No. This man, this friggin show, I feel like had its claws in us for a bit, but MJ really stuck with it for quite some time. But apparently, Penn Badgley requested fewer sex scenes during season four of you out of respect for his wife and marriage. He said my desire would be zero intimate scenes to go from 100 to zero to respect his wife and family.

I don't know why I'm making fun of Pen Badger for this because I don't know why I like this. I was waiting for the other side of this bit. No, I do. I feel like because season five marked the show's final. installment and the actor compromised on his no sex scene rule. He said, my desire is that least as possible, but if it's necessary, that's the show we all sign up to make. You know what it is, Sina, there's a bunch of fucking in the show. So in my head, the idea of like, I will stand up for what is right. Yes, it's a fuck-based show. It's a fuck-based show. Like, it's-

not coming for your Shakespearean monologues, buddy. They are not. I just, I feel, I think that's why I'm rolling my eyes. Yes. Yes. I think that's it. You started off as a kind of interesting show, and then I can't remember if it was season two or season three where it really jumped the shark and then I fell off. But yeah, there's just, this is perfectly fine with Penn Badgley.

I obviously support every actor's right to decide how, yes. All of that. But there is just for a show that's just like, fucking, fucking fucking. There's so much. Long production days, too. Maybe he just doesn't like being on like a cold set.

Yeah, with an intimacy coordinator. Yeah. You know, and I could see how, He, like, goes home, his wife's like, Honey, do you want to, like, connect tonight? And he's like, I have been slapping me for 12 hours, and I had chili at the lunch break. I can't.

That's all they had at the crafty. I can't handle this tonight. Just chowing down on a bunch of beans. Baby, I'm saving it all for you, baby. You know, they went to OT, 14-hour days, 16-hour days? And you know that, like, those, the sex. scenes, like, they do take extra time because everything has to be coordinated and everything has to be watched and taken care of it. Everyone has to feel safe. So I get it. But then there's

people like Robert Pattinson, who not only got naked, but actually jerked off on camera in little ashes. He says, my orgasm face is recorded for eternity. The actor couldn't fake it because it just doesn't work. He thought the unsimulated scene would ruin his acting career, but obviously that's far from the truth because he's been quite successful in Hollywood so far. You know, and I also hate this. So isn't that interesting? We can hate the crude one and this at the same time. And the jerky one, too.

I agree. I agree. I'm pretty sure it's called, wait, let me find the word. Acting. Yeah, I think it's called acting. Fucking acting. Honestly, Sina, I don't know if you've ever looked into or read Brian Cox talking about other actors. It's one of the funniest where he's just, it's called acting.

God damn it. He is so against Versilimitude or Veracilimitude. He's just so against it. I love it. I love that he's like, actors are made to act. God damn it. The fact that he's such a good actor and he hates method acting makes me so happy because when I was acting, I worked with a couple method actors.

And it was so unconsciously annoying to just, you know, you're like, that's not, not only is that not in the script, you've broken every single reality that I, I have attached myself to in the scene. And now I have nothing to hold on to. Yep. And so it's like, let's just not. You know, we don't need it. Also, the idea that you, I mean, it's been news to a lot of people that you can't fake an orgasm.

It's like famously something people fake, you know. Especially if you're just faking your face. Right, right, right. Yeah. You know, you can't fake the jizz part. But like, you know, people, if you don't need to show physical evidence, people fake orgasms all the time. Also, I didn't see that movie. I'm assuming they didn't show the goosh come out of him.

I feel like that would definitely take it to an NC17 if you're watching the real goose come out, right? No way. You'd figure what it's like a medium or close on his face and he's jerking, but like, what's the crew doing? Right. Is it just like a sound guy with the boom? I feel bad for them. Yes, that's inappropriate.

I actually, if anyone has seen Little Ashes and can, you know, describe this, I also want to know, is it a close-up, is it a medium shot? What are we seeing? And why couldn't you fake it? It's so possible to fake this. Krip goes home that day. It's like, how was work, honey? It's like, I had to light a guy jerking off.

Yeah, I had to make sure that it was glistening. And not just that guy, Robert Pattinson. I'm very upset. Right, yes, that's Edward. In Lashes? In Pileon, I'm upset because Pileon, I've been so excited to see it, and they won't release the N-C-Rexempt. 17 version for streaming, they'll only make it rated R.

And the two things that they changed, apparently, are the fact that even though it is not a real penis on Alexander Scars Guard, it is a prosthetic penis. They cut out the penis as well as, apparently, the cum glistened too much. Wow. And so they had to make it more matte to make sure that the cum didn't look too much. realistic. I've done that note before. Oh, yeah, your cums looking too real.

It's a little too glizzy. Can you take some of the shan off of that cum? Yeah. I think that drives me crazy. What are you talking about? Just release the movie as you made the movie. My God. Oh, my God.

That colorist had to do that. Someone had to go in. Colorist. That's a colorist job. Right? Adam, that's a colorist job, right? Yeah, for sure. It's a colorist job that has to take away the shine.

It's like, The Mr. Hollering looking at the fucking jizz is just being like, that's shine to it. Put that goop back in that dick. People don't understand how hard it is to make a movie. And the amount of just like labor and takes and the notes you get back on stuff like that. A caller is probably there at his home studio. He's like, I did a great job in this film.

Fantastic. Delivered, gets the note back. I have to do what? Yeah. Spend hours and hours and hours on the come. Yes. Yeah, no, that's incredible. You can't make it shine in too bright like a star now.

But what about Ben Affleck and how does he feel about nudity? Well, Ben Affleck did have some brief nudity when he starred in Gone Girl. He said this is a warts-in-all movie. It can have no vanity, he said, following a conversation with director David Fincher, you have to see the naked underbelly of this character. I'm, again, making fun of him, but I love Ben Affleck. And in my brain, he can do no wrong. I'm a fan of Ben Affleck these days.

Yes. And all of the, oh man, we didn't even get into it. We'll get into it in Second Helping's about he's just giving JLo the house. He's just like, go ahead, just sell it, just leave me fucking alone. Paying JLo. Paying her. She needs the money. Oh, I mean, there is certainly, there is so much.

I imagine there's a lot in the blinds to, MJ, because. I was going to say, I didn't. to find this blind, even though we will talk about, we will talk about this more on second helpings, just to give you a sense of what's going on, Sina. What does this A-list everything in her mind's celebrity have on her actor-director X, that he is just willingly giving her $30 million that he doesn't need to give, which that makes it sound like Ben Affleck is in the wrong, which I really doubt, but they both own the $60 million house together. And he's like, if you just, if I give you my chair of it,

will you leave me alone and I never have to talk to you again, which is pretty dark. I bet it is still a big chunk of change for him, but I bet he literally wants to talk and interact with her that little that he's willing to take the hit. I think he's sober. So it's like, I got no, I got no, I cannot relapse from J-Lo. No, no, no.

Two, he just sold his company to Netflix. Really? So, Adam, you probably know that he's probably sold it. It's like $700 million he sold it for. So that's why. So that's why. Thank you. That's exactly why he's doing this.

He doesn't need that money. And he doesn't want to talk to her. Man, isn't that beautiful? Can you imagine being able to write off a net? Like, think of that. Like, I don't know if you guys have ever had to go through this, but I definitely have trying to get a security deposit back from an X. from something that you've moved out of when you're like,

I need the money so bad that I have to go after you to go get this money. And maybe this is more of a 20s issue, at least for the two people that I'm talking to right now. But I remember being there and being like, God, I would do anything to not ever have to fucking talk to you again. But I need that $750. Oh, do I. It's a sign of financial security.

I remember people talking about this in 2008 around the financial crisis where it was like the first news story that was like the majority of Americans didn't have, you know, $400 in case like a personal emergency happened. Like they didn't have that to spare. And I do think there's like, in my head, there's a sign of financial success where you have enough financial stability to just like, okay, this, I'll just pay to just not. Everyone has to think about this again. Just not. And that's, this is his version of that. Yes. Humble brag, I'm on speaking terms with all my exes.

Wow. That is nice. No, that's a green, we call that a green flag. That is. Don't look at mine. I'm all red flags, baby. Oh, I'm a scorched earther, unfortunately. And really, I let it all set a flame.

Not a friend in sight that I've been in a relationship with. And, you know, it's okay to confess these things. But Sina, that is a green flag. Thank you. Okay, good. We do appreciate that here on this show. I think my wife now, though, is definitely like you, Jackie. I think there's like dead bodies strewn across the United States.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to know. And I can't explain because this is going to sound very gendered and sexist, but I feel like when I talk to a woman who says I don't talk to any of my exes, I'm like, girl, I get it. And when I talk to a man who says he doesn't talk to any of his exes, I'm like, you're the bad one.

You know, and I know that that's hypocritical. Because honestly, it is the case. regardless of whatever kind of gender they're in the relationship with, you feel like it's like you understand it. And it's just there's something about, there is something about it where it's just like, oh, oh, you hate all of the women,

oh, all those women were all the problem. Exactly. All of your exes are crazy. Oh, all of your exes are crazy. Sure, one of those. You were this vulnerable and trusted them. They like saw you naked, all this stuff. Like your face was on all their places.

All their parts, you know. It's like weird to just. be like never going to talk to you? I don't know. That, for me, always seemed strange. I'm proud of you. It sounds like you just had like nice, not horrible breakups, though, which is... Yeah, I guess so.

I mean, some of them were, they were difficult. You had a couple. You had a couple. I remember. We've known each other for quite a bit of time. I remember a couple of rough ones in there. You know, they're all rough when they're happening. They're all rough. It's how you figure out the landing, which also, congratulations, Artemis 2.

Artemis 2 made the great landing. Oh my God, did you see the video of the astronaut with the dog? Oh, I was thinking the dog. I'm sure there was a daughter one. I guess there was a daughter one. That was probably great. I'm thinking about when she saw her dog. And the dog was really excited.

Comedically aligned. Nope, no. I'm talking about the dog. Jackie only cares about the dog's reaction. to the astronauts. But wait, what happened with her daughter? The one daughter was, like, doing a dance about how proud she was.

Her father was, like, piloting the spaceship around. And I was like, that is the coolest fucking thing ever. Like, my dad is an astronaut. And not only that, I'm gonna, like, tell people, he's doing this thing. And you're like, it really defeats the, like, my dad's a lawyer. It's like, my dad shuttled a piloted a shuttle around.

Yeah. You see this rocket plunging back to Earth? into the ocean. That's my dad. Yeah. Then that's, that is unbelievable. But I guess,

you know, I was thinking more about the dog because all I could think of was I wonder what she smells like. What? The astronaut. I wonder if she smells like space. I feel like she made,

what if she, like the astronaut's wife, what if she came back different and what if only the dog can smell it? Do you get like a funk when you're in the space? I imagine. I think it's a human funk from probably not showering.

But I also, my kids asked, my kids were like, well, I could imagine being an astronaut, but I don't want to, like, go out of the spaceship and explore space. And then I was thinking of Sandra Bullock's gravity. And I was like, and I was like, I don't think that you usually go out of the spaceship to explore space. But, of course, they did in the moon landing. So then I was like, I need to look this up. I think probably often, if you're up there, you stay in the car.

It depends on what you're doing. because now Artemitt there's going to be many more Artemis. Sure. And they're going back up and they're putting boots on the ground. They're making ourselves. We're getting ourselves a moon base. Oh, yeah. They're going to be outside.

They're going to be all over that moon. First thing they're building is a podcast studio. Yes. And we are going at first and LPN. It is from the Netflix to Moon Pipeline. Yep. It's going to be us. And I can't wait to be on the moon.

taken page seven. Oh my God. People are going to be, it's going to be out of this world. Come on. Fuck you, Katie Perry. Not in the way she was out of this world. Last but not least, after becoming a mother.

See, this I understand. After becoming a mother, Kira Knightley isn't comfortable filming sex scenes if a male is directing them. She said, I don't have an absolute ban, but I kind of do with men. You can use somebody else because I'm too vain and my body has had two children now

and I'd just rather not stand in front of a group of men naked. And honestly, get it. Yeah, great. I get it. Yeah, I understand this. I get that too. If I was there, because she's also a director. Yeah.

And so she knows exactly, like, the tendency of what the director is going to view through their eyes. Right. And I think you just got to trust the person behind the camera. Also, we talked about Ben Affleck doing the David Fincher nudity. David Fincher historically does, like, 45 takes. So it's like, that's another problem with, like, a new. See, so imagine that. Like, if I'm Kieranightly and I'm doing a David Fincher movie and he's like,

we're going to do a sexy. I'm like, absolutely not. No way. So I'm not going to be here for three days. Because it's choreographed like a John Wick fight. Like it has to be choreographed to that extent. So you do have to also on top of that practice. Yeah, you can't riff.

No. There is, in fact, that's a lot of what the issues were in the Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively case. I mean, there were many, many issues. But it was him ad-libbing and improvising. and improvising in the sex scenes and in like the kissing and in the vulnerable moments

where Blake lively is like I thought we talked about all of these things and you're kind of going off the cuff and so we didn't even get into this last week because all of it, a lot of it got thrown out but a lot of it got thrown out because of technicalities and not because of things that did not happen.

Because of how she was employed yeah as we should have brought in brought in lawyer Sina for this. Lawyer Sina for this. I just want to remind everybody because this was a fact I only learned a few years ago and now I can't stop thinking about it that Kira Knightley, well, there was no nudity in love actually.

Kira Knightley was only 17 in love actually. Which is just so upsetting to me. And there's just something about her saying, I won't do nudity that I'm like, yes, reclaim your agency, you know? She was dressed like a much older woman, though. She really, like, she really was. She, it, it, it, perposes that, like, inappropriate. Yeah.

But it was the 80s, right? It was the 80s. Oh, uh-oh. I don't think so. It was a post-9-11 world. Which we know because Hugh Grant brings up 9-11 immediately. At the top of the movie. There were no messages of hate going out.

Only messages of love. Only messages of love. She was 17. 17 is disgusting. Yeah, man. Well, two adult men are warring over her and she's 17. Gross. I had no idea.

Yeah. There will be no white flag above my door. We were just talking about the Love Actually soundtrack. I had the Love Actually soundtrack and it rocked. Yeah, a little bit of dido, yes. The best soundtrack from that era was, if you were a little school girl, Well, yes, that too, but also my best friend's wedding. Oh, oh.

See, I'm thinking about CDs right now because last week on Jack and Kara came to come co-host with me because Holden was out of town. And Kara brought her old huge case logic. Oh, yeah. Binder that was all in alphabetical order that, of course, of course, Kara. Yeah. With all of like the different, like, with all the, you know, the cover art. and all the things behind it too. The liner notes and everything.

So we were like pulling out the liner notes. We really went down a soundtrack, worm time. I tell you. And you are correct. It is a great soundtrack. Also, so is clueless. There's many great soundtracks that Kara and I both were obsessed with.

But anyway, moving right along, that was my list for you. That was your list. Well, that's great timing because I seem to be losing my eyesight. I think I'm going. Blind. Items. Ah, we can't see them.

All right. Cina, you remember this part? I'm going to give you little clues. And you're going to do some little guessing. Okay, blind number one. The A-minusless actress is not the first actress the killer actor had fired from a job. Usually it was because they showed no interest in sleeping with him, though. Oh.

This is the actress. There's two people in this blind, an A-minus-less actress and an actor. who crucially is described as a killer actor. Matthew Broderick. No, that's a great, yes. I'm trying to think. I was like, what are the killers? Is it in that vein where it was like an accident?

That's mushy. I don't know how to answer that. I don't know how to answer that question. Was it an accident? I keep thinking Tom Cruise, but I know it's not Tom Cruise. He surprisingly hasn't killed anyone. Courtney Love. No.

He's the killer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would anyone describe Portie Love as a killer actor? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, right? Give it to me again. Okay, so the A-minusless actress is not the first actress that the killer actor had fired from a job.

Usually it was because the actresses showed no interest in sleeping with the actor. Okay, so the actress was in the news last week making headlines. She was like making a whole bunch of claims, speaking, doing like interviews and stuff, she was promoting something. I don't remember what she was promoting, but she was in the news a lot. And she makes this claim about this very famous actor

who we do talk about quite frequently here on the show. Jamil O'Jemiel? Nope. Okay, people maybe are screaming. So the killer actor claims it was an accident when he killed the person. A lot of people think that this was a very preventable death. that this actor is responsible for.

And perhaps his family is profiting off of the controversy surrounding his accidental killing of somebody. Perhaps his many children and his crazy wife are benefiting. Oh, Alex Ball! Oh, God damn it! Killer, murder, killer actor, killer actor. Killer actor. Who's the actress?

Man, I was right. That was, my brain just went into weird. places, man. I'm sorry you had to think about all the various actors who've killed people. Who've killed. Yes. Okay. So, all right. So, all right. Back in, we're back into it. A minus actress. A minus actress. A minus. She is claiming that he got her fired from, that he blocked her from landing a roll on 30 Rock because he didn't think she looked old enough to play his love interest, which is very funny. Very funny thing for Alec Baldwin to think. But so this is an a minus list actress. this would have been at the time she was like a big rising star she

It's not Zendaya It's not Zendaya Because she's not A minus No It's this is she's firmly in the How do I give a hint about this? Not Jennifer Lawrence No she's a

Not Jennifer Lawrence This person was kind of a rising star In the comedy world at this time She got a job on a comedy show She was the first One of the first women to be on the show She is now married to a median and everybody that was a lot of controversy.

Yeah. Wow. Yes. Olivia Munn. You know what? I'm going to say it. I'm going to say this. I forget about her existence.

I forget what she looks like. I forget which Olivia it is. It's like the hundred for me. I don't think about you at all. I don't think about you at all. Olivia Munn barely exists in my life. Does that make her less than an A-minus? I feel like it makes her less than a five.

No, you know what? That's my biggest umbrage taking. She's not a fucking A-minus. No way. No, no, no, no, no. She's not A-minus. I'm gonna say it, C-plus. Wow.

I'm gonna say C-plus. I'm gonna say recognition B-plus director at this point, but I'm gonna say C-plus actress. I think that that's, what grade do you give C-B? I was gonna give a B. Oh, B. You're being nice. Maybe because I'm, you know, Iranian. A C is like an F in our house.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, higher standards. My mom doesn't even give Bs in her class. Higher standards. She's like, it's not right. She says if I give less than a B to the students, their parents save for their college. I think that Olivia, I think describing her as a minus list, and I don't mean to discount her work as an individual,

but I think that if she wasn't married to John Malaney, I don't know if they would be describing her as an A-minus. And I think that that's disrespectful to Olivia Munn. I think she has her own career. But I think that she has now associated with John Malini in a way that I think actually unfortunately kind of erases her as a person who has a totally separate career from him. Yeah, from right along too.

I mean, this is like from such movies as X-Men apocalypse. And, you know, it's like there is, she's so many things. She was in newsroom. She was in the Daily show. She was in the Newsroom. She was like the first woman on the Daily show, wasn't she? Or one of that, I mean, Samantha B was out of it.

I remember writing about this at the time because everyone was like, a woman, a woman on the TV show. And I know, you're right. You are correct. But I don't, again, I wouldn't say A minus. I wouldn't say A minus on it. Being on the Daily Show 15 years ago, it does not necessarily an A minus me. Because right at the time, and you're right, you are correct.

And that was a big thing for us, you know, China havers out here. And it was certainly. It was still back in the days where people would just write articles that said women aren't funny, right? Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And, you know, now they just think it really hard and they try to think it into your brain instead. All right. Olivia Munn.

Olivia Munn. Thank you for going on that journey with me, both of you. Okay, blind number two. Sure, the studio footed the bill for the star, but it's no coincidence that zero co-stars from the 90s medical drama or the reboot showed up. Like the showrunner even said how ridiculous it was that none of the new cast came. The actor is just not liked at all. Noah Wiley. Yes.

Wow. Nobody came to his walk of fame thing. Nobody came just his wife and his kids. I remember back in the day no one liked him. Somehow I have that in my like memory that he was a dick on set or whatever. It was like people. And I wonder if it's just that he's so into, like do you think it annoys them where they're like, hey, bud, you know you're not a doctor, right?

You think that's what it is? I felt that this whole run, which I think I've expressed my disdain for the pit, even though I know it's technically a good show. There's not a single yinzer in the whole show. You're upset about the Pittsburgh part of it. It's not. You're right. It's just, it could be anywhere in America, which is fine.

But I think he also got extremely resentful of George Clooney and the success of other people. And that, like, you're just not fun at parties then. Yeah. You're like, why don't you put me in your movies? Like, buddy, just get a good financial advisor. Invest your money from ER, like, in a better way. Or like, have a family, have your life. You know what I mean?

I don't know. Like, don't be such a dick. Yeah. I think George Clooney just wants to hang out with people that he likes to hang out with. He made multiple movies with people he likes to hang out with. Yeah. And that's the thing. And honestly, a lot of the word on the street, especially, like, George Clooney is a good hang.

Yeah. That is, like, he's a fun time to be around. He's one of those where it's like he's not. like a Leo, you know, he actually genuinely is, even though he's George Clooney, that he does at least put off an air of like he's having a good time. He married up.

He married up. Oh, he married up. A good Persian girl. Oh my God. She is a lawyer. Oh, my gosh. She, oh my God. Yes, and very, very, man, he... He married up. Married. There doesn't get much up, more up than a mom. No, no.

No. Like, that's what it's not. Honestly, I Read about the way that they, like, raise their children where they immediately whisked their children away. Like, they're, like, raising them in the countryside in France. And it's like, it makes you want to roll your eyes. But honestly, everything I read, I'm like, good. Oh, it's great. Get out of here.

Yeah, it's the best. Oh, guess who you're not going to see getting $1,000 of Nobu at Coachella. Exactly. A little Clooney kids. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Oh, my God.

And also, their role model is Amal Clutie, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but all the Northwest stuff at, at, I forget that Northwest is so young. Oh, yeah. She's just a baby. And she's at, like, she's at Coachella doing on. And there's all this, like, popping circumstance around this child.

And I'm just like, what is going to happen to this fucking, I mean, all of them, but especially Northwest. Northwest is just, it's not, it's, it's, I'm, I'm nervous for. Look at Will and Jada's kids. I, it's, you know. Yeah. I like those kids because they're so weird, but I, yeah, I think there's no, I mean, we've been talking a lot about parentification because we're watching Desperate Housewives. Desperate Housewives, yeah. In the early 2000s, the parentification was wild.

Yeah. But, like, I don't know. I just think that the way that Kim Kardashian treats Northwest, like she's like a, like a peer to hang out with, that is like, oh, I get to like make another famous person for this dynasty of. ours. That's the part that's the most disturbing. It's not even like, oh, she's 16. She's a she's 12. Well, it reminds me of what parenting ends up being for your kids and the kids just copy the parents. And so you have to give them something worth copying and that is going to be for better or for worse. And who did Kim copy? It's just going to copy her mom. And who's this kid going to copy? It's going to copy her mom. Yeah. Like that's like, I mean, hopefully she's

copy yay. But it's like. Yeah, right. Between those two. They're making music together, but they're starting to make music together. And that's probably the best, best part, you know. Yes. And it is, which I, you know, again, we don't usually talk about the little ones, little ones here. But I just saw her on all the Coachella and she was like talking to some of the Love Islander people. And I was just like, just stay away from her. Just a child.

She's a child. Not that they're even bad people. It's just, she's just. I think it is worth talking about though, because I think, we. We talk about it in the cultural sense, but I think we should also remember that these young people are going to be coming into a huge amount of wealth, which means they can have a huge impact on our lives specific. Yeah. Right? They can have an impact.

And there's a generation of these young people that are going to come in and just be like, oh, I'll start a company that just like is a bot farm. And then I'll move, I'll move information and do this and that or a crypto scan or whatever. Like these people are, we should have a role in talking about them because they are going to have a huge impact on society. Now, the Clooney kids, I don't know what they're doing. They're not outside being crazy and stuff like that. I think we can respect that because they want to live a private life. But it's like if you're outside and you're doing all this stuff, if you're in the culture and you're doing, you have availed yourself to some notes. Yeah.

Yeah. Because now, you know, it's like we're dealing with, we're looking at like the Apple Martin. I feel like it's even in this conversation, it's like that. But then there are the other ones that are just genuinely out there trying to nepo and just be a good little nepo, you know? It takes all kinds. But also George Clooney's kids, they're only nine. So I hope that they're going to hold off for a little bit before they start becoming tyrants.

Yeah. I got to find out where they are so my kids can become friends with them. Yeah. Oh, my God. Those have got to be cool kids. I mean, your children already. are way smarter than I will ever be. Like they already speak more languages than I speak.

Like it's like your children need to be friends with the Clooney kids. I feel like they need to be. They're there's a few. I believe the children are our future. Yes, they are our future. And thank you both for having them. Okay. You guys, I'm sorry, but things are about to get a lot dumber.

I've got my final blind is a food network specific blind. Sena, are you a food network fella? I was just going to say, no chance of getting this one. Okay, that's fine. Jackie can do the heavy lifting. Just come along for the ride. Unless it's Bobby Flay. That's about the only answer. Is it Bobby Flay?

Let me read the blind. Oh. This A-List celebrity chef is doing some juggling. It was not that long ago that he was hooking up with this long-time A-List celebrity chef, a different one. So we're talking two chefs here. Guiana. She got tired of being- She got tired of being-

Tina, you were right, by the way. You were so right. How dare you. No, dear. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. Yes.

Oh, God. I just spilled my tea. I spilled my tea. I got so excited. I can't believe it. You're immediately, immediately right. But come along for this ride, okay? Okay, okay.

And yes, the person he was hooking up with was indeed Gia. She got, do you know Giazza? Big, big, beautiful. She's got a bird's face, but a beautiful bird. Beautiful bird chef who does make good Italian food speaks. And she's one of these who, she is like Italian American, but anytime she's talking about any ingredients, she's like, Matarra. Urgare. Cucumber.

Okay, got it. She got tired of being cheated on. But at least she is Italian. She is Italian. She is from Italy. Valera is Spanish. Yeah, yeah. She lived there.

I'm sorry, Hillary Lynn Thomas. Yeah. Okay. So, Giata got tired of being cheated on and finally just moved on. They did get back together a bit. No, they fucking did it. But she caught him again. One of the people he cheated on her, one of the people Bobby Flay cheated on Giata with

is the same person he is with now. But she doesn't know the whole story about that. She can't really say anything, though, because she was with someone else at the time, too, and was also cheated. Whoa, were they at the cold play concert? The person she does know about is the 20-something year old who thought she was going to be the one and probably would have been,

except she definitely either wanted a kid or marriage to lock it in. That wasn't going to happen, so now she is creating a big fuss behind the scenes to get some kind of payout. Now, so yes, this is Bobby Flay, who was famously Shdipin Giazza cheated on Giazza

with another famous chef whose name is Brooke Williamson. How fucking dare you, you piece of garbage? Brooke Williamson is who is Bobby Flay's current girlfriend. Now I said

I have maybe completely unjustifiably negative feelings about Brooke Williamson that stem from her one season of top chef because I think she beat a chef that I like

and so last time she came up on the show I was like fuck Brooke Williamson and I realized in retrospect that I might have gone too hard on her. But I... No, but now I think the fact that she chooses to be in a relationship with Bobby Flay, I think that we could...

It's a poor... You know... Yeah, I think that reflects a poor judgment of character. But so Bobby Flay cheated on Giata with Brooke Williamson. Brooke Williamson was also cheating on somebody else. But now the mystery here, because sometimes the blind doesn't name everybody, the mystery is, who was the 20-something who Bobby Flay was also Stooping, who wanted a kid or a marriage and is now trying to make a big fuss, quote-unquote, and get a payout.

She's not named. Is she a chef? Is she a celebrity? Is she just some 20-something-year-old? I need to know. Please, listeners, if you have theories, please let us know because we only have the names of Bobby Flay, Giata de Laurentis, and Brooke Williamson here.

Who is the mystery 20-something trying to extort Bobby? Whoa. And good luck. And good luck. I bet is it Jojo Siwa. That would be great. She's really laying in hard and love. paint right now, by the way, Jojo Siwa.

And she really wants to, what is this? It's like, tippy, tapy and tuti, whatever her children. She's single? No, she's in a relationship, but she already has the names of her future children tattooed on her body. It's Eddie, Freddie, and Teddy. That's what it is. It's Eddie, Freddie, and Teddy, and that's what are the names of her future children. But I think tippy, tapping, and to-they-and-tut-and-they sounds.

And they don't have children yet, I'm guessing that. No, they do not have children yet. Not yet. Not yet, but she is, she's like 22 and counting, though. She's like, I thought I was going to have a baby like three years ago. Like she's ready to have a baby. Oh, heaven. See, this is what I'm saying, people.

Like, JoJo, she's going to have kids and they're going to be out here and they're going to be wielding millions of dollars. No, I don't think Jojo has that much money. I think that unfortunately Northwest is going to be holding dominion over Jojo. kids. Northwest is going to be Senator Northwest. Yes. Yeah, exactly. I will say one thing. 15th birthday. About Bobby Flee, I don't know if you guys know this, he does not wash his rice.

Wow. And I saw, it was like a social media video where they were like interviewing about different things and he said, do you wash your rice? And he said no. And I bowed through my phone. You know, weirdly enough also this article came up when I was looking at Brooke Williamson. and Brooke Williamson's son called out her boyfriend Bobby Flay for not having this common kitchen device, and it was a rice cooker. Yeah. Is Bobby Flay just against rice?

I think Bobby Flay is a white man. Yeah. Who thinks he can do everyone's culture better than them. See, this is why we hate Bobby Flay. We canonically hear on the show hate Bobby Flay because of Beat Bobby Flay where he goes to your restaurant to be like, oh, you make the best grilled cheese, anybody you ever see? You wait until I Bobby Flay And then it's like So it's coming into people's restaurants

To be like I do what you do better Fuck you Bobby Flay Get the fuck out of my restaurant Yeah But also he's mean Yeah except he does like cats But I'm not gonna let that That's not enough

That's not enough Not gonna let that cloud my judgment But I my vision is no longer clouded I can see So thank you both Thank you Welcome back And it's time

I guess So you're seeing right down the slide as we all the way down into Jackie Snackies. Snacky, I've been a snacky girl, snacky, I've been a snacky girl. Snacky, I've been a snacky, snacky, snacky. Is somebody going to eat those chips? Is somebody going to dip those dips? Is somebody going to try those candies? I got seminar.

They say I'm a snack lead. I wish you could hear the theme song, Sina. There's a really great theme song that it's just, it's beloved. It's very good. And this, you know, I'm, I was excited. I was hanging. Well, you're another one of my chewy fruities. Yep.

And thank God. Because I've got some butthole fruities here for you today. I've got different kinds of, all right, I want to just say to everybody, to everyone that enjoys a Jackie Snackies, I want to say thank you. to anyone that has reached out to me to tell me to go to the store Five Below to get my Chewy Fruities.

I didn't realize that Five Below has a whole section donated two Chewy Fruities. Yes. I lost my mind. I'm so upset because in particular I'm going to go back

and re-get them because there was this candy that I brought to a party over the weekend and I ended up making a bunch of friends because I forgot that this candy existed and they're called satellite wafers and they're essentially communion wafers stuffed with sprinkles.

And they are horrible. And it's like a northeastern tree. And so everyone at this party, we're all SoCal people and they're like, what the hell is this? But then everyone put in their mouth and be like, oh my God, it tastes just like a communion wafer. And anyone that was raised Catholic knows that a communion wafer is the worst thing you could ever

put the body of Christ is not season. It's plain. And it is very, oh God, it sucks all the moisture on your mouth. But anyway, very dry. I got some weird chewy fruities. Okay. From the five below, here to share with Ysena. Wow.

Yeah, I at one time took communion at my grandpa's funeral. Even though, no, my brother took communion in my grandpa's funeral. I took communion at a choir event at a church, not knowing I was not supposed to take it because I wasn't baptized. Oh, no. you got that, you got Christed. I visited a Baptist church because my friend's dad was preaching there and I took communion. I had no idea what he was had. I was completely, everyone was getting up and walking.

Exactly. And I was like, oh yeah. Everybody's sitting. Next thing you know, you're condemned to hell for eating the body of Christ. And then I asked my friend, I was like, what was that? And he's like, that was the body of Christ. I was like, come, no, come on. What was that?

No, for real, what was that? No, these people think it's the body of Christ, this whole. horrible week. You'd think make it a chocolate chip cookie. Make it something delicious. If I'm going to be eaten Christ, make it delicious. I was 20 years old. I was like, this blew my mind. I was like, I can't believe this is for real. And I was like, and then the wine is the, oh my God.

Yeah, yeah, body of crap. Now, how do you feel about those wax bottles? I hate those wax bottles. You hate the wax bottles. I think they're fun until you eat them. Yeah. See, I like to chew on the wax. I remember there were always kids wax bottles.

chewing. Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm one of those. And right now, you're going to be one of those. These are from the brand Wax Yums. It's just called Wax Candy. And it says, bite it, sip it, chew it. Now, Sino, would you like strawberry, orange, blueberry, or green apple? Strawberry. I love it when trends bring back something that everybody hated, you know. Everybody. But I loved it. I mean, again, the novelty. You're, you're, you're, You bite it, you sip it. But I think my theory is the people who like to chew the bottles where the people who would go on to like really go hard on substances.

And interesting, you are correct, MJ. Jackie is my sample of one. I am. Oh, wow. This is a weird feel. I was a pixie stick snorter too. Yeah. explains a lot of my life.

I think this feels harder than the wax than the wax. This does not feel like food. No, no. In fact, it is very funny because on the satellite weifers, multiple times it said edible so that you knew that they were definitely edible, but this doesn't. All right.

Oh, it smells like horse hooves. I don't know. I can't. Oh my gosh. Oh, my God. What consistency is the liquid? Is it viscous? It's so hot.

It doesn't feel real. No, the wax is so crumbly. Oh, crumbly wax. He's spooking. He's spooking. Oh, he's gone. He's gone. You don't want the wax to crumble.

The only is, there's not enough juice in it. It's only wax. Oh, my God. That was terrible. I have to talk about the straight of hormones later today. Talk about this. This is a different crime. This is a different war crime happening right here.

Jackie, we went the last time I was on the show, you presented me with the greatest pack of candy I have had in my life. And boy, have we really, we have really fallen off. Wow, that was really, really bad. And I honestly, I was starting off with the better one. I was starting off with the better one. There's another one? Yeah, yeah.

This one's called Guppers. It is called Guppers. P-P-E-R-Z Guppers. It is gummy liquid-filled Poppers. Poppers? Yeah.

Yeah. That's another flashback. Yeah, yeah. Some poppers here. Once again, I wish the listeners could see Cina's face. Be intrigued at poppers, but you're not going to like these poppers.

Yeah. These guppers are not going to be good. This is another wax thing? No. This is just a juicy, This is just a popper. This is juicy. This is juicy gummy candy.

I'm going to give you this green one. Jackie, here, let me take a little picture. It's candy. Let me do it. What does it look like? You're too far away for me to see. It looks like the shape of a little boba tea.

It's like in the full shape of an actual full boba tea. This is plastic and I open. I don't eat the plastic, I'm guessing. The plastic is not going to put. No, ew, this smells like caramel. Oh, that is not what I expected at all. Oh, this is weird. Oh, you got to rip it open.

Cina's about to eat the plastic, Jackie. You got to give them some guidance. Oh, my God, it feels like a slime. Oh, they come in different, like there's one that's shaped like a strawberry milk carton. There's one that shaped like a pickle. What? Popping pickles. Ugh.

Gummy liquid-filled poppers. We're chewing. This is, you know what it feels like? Oh, my God. This is horrible. You know what it feels like a memory thumb. Like, I'm eating a memory from. foam mattress.

Like a flavored, like one of those people on that A&E show that just eats the foam. Yeah. Oh, I can't. Oh, this is a two, a two trash can day. Wow, it's a two trash canter. It's a two trash canter. Wow, I thought that the wax skating wasn't going to be that bad. And I thought guppers was going to be worse.

But then guppers ended up being worse. What is that smell? Still worse. This smell is, uh, the, um, the smell of the guppers? Yeah. This is horrific. I don't think it's safe.

This is, we shouldn't have put this in our mouth. Oh, this was the match flavor. I'm sorry, guppers fam out there. I don't know if there's a lot of, a lot of merch. Yeah, yeah. I don't know who's going after the guppers. Who is this for? So it's like, oh, you squeeze the edges and you pop it open,

then you sluck it out of the plastic. Oh, did you eat something that wasn't edible? I know it's surprisingly it doesn't say edible on it but it is candy this is horrific wow both of them really really bad so go to five below for your horrifying sweets that tracks also have a lot of really great stuff too that I did eat I just didn't bring any of the good stuff free now listen I love five below and I will go on big five below sprees you know before holidays for my kids and stuff but I do think that there is a, somebody's got to come up with the word for shopping at five below.

It's like a mix of excitement and disappointment at the same time, you know? Oh, certainly. It's a, it's a very nice dollar store. And so you know that whatever you're buying is going to break. And it's going to be weird. And that's fine. This is what the problem was. The one I ate was milk tea.

And that's why that's not something that you have, like, and I love like a Thai iced tea. And I love like a milk tea. Like I love like a boba milk tea. Yeah, you love the Thai people. I love them. I love them. I love them. I don't love their guppers.

They can keep their guppers to their fucking selves. Guppers employees sound off. The last time I've got. I had bad mouthed to candy and we did hear from someone who works for that candy company. And so I'm wondering, do we have any guppers staff out there? Frankly, I'll go to, I'll take them to task. You. I might make this my life's mission to make sure this company goes under.

Guppers. No, yeah. I'm glad that last time I gave you good ones and this time I gave you bad ones and next time I'll give you a good one. Yeah, yeah. That was, oh, wow. All right. That was crazy. Is it my time to shine?

It is. Oh. Oh. Yeah, why I see you and out to the Vegas where I mean. I never know what I'm fine. Try something new with my flow my mind. Hello, spicy. Hello, crunch.

M. Mama, Mimimum. Hello, Dill, you're my wild thrill of dunges. Mama, ma, ma, ma. Midd it munch, mini munch, mini munch, mini munch. Okay, you might remember last week, you might remember my buffalo wing-flavored combos. This week, I bring you buffalo wing flavored pretzel. Whoa, all across the board.

I did go to the 7-Eleven and buy everything that had buffalo wings for a flavor. Was it just because you were intrigued? Like, you just want to have, like, the, like, against each other. I've already explored all of the normal spicy chips, and I like buffalo wings. And so I saw several Buffalo Wing themed crunchies, and I thought, all right, let's go down to get in it. Get in there. I still have the combos. There's also now a nice tradition where my brother comes over to hang out on Friday nights.

And so I get the MJ's Minute Munchies earlier in the week, and then whatever they are, I give them to him. And so it's kind of a second experience of. taste testing. The poor boys that play D&D with us are the ones that usually either the studio gets it or I also have so much that I make the D&D boys eat. You had nerds last week. Yes, and I took them. I was like, yeah, Jackie.

Even though apparently, you know, nerds not looking so good in the carcinogen department. But we're not going to deal with that because apparently you're only allowed to eat. What is it? I think it's like 46 a year. for your carcinogen levels? Well, I should have died by the age of seven. Yeah, man. Sorry, not going to happen. But what do we think in, MJ?

Okay, so these are the pretzel pieces. I don't know if you guys are equally obsessed with the honey mustard pretzel pieces. I love the honey mustard pretzel pieces. Love them, love them. This is like that, but buffalo wing flavor. And I think they're good. I think they are better than the combos, even though you know, I'm a combo loyalist. And they're not as good as the honey mustard pretzel pieces, of course.

but if you like buffalo wing flavor and pretzels, it's weird. Are we getting any ranch in it, or is it only buffalo wing? It's, it's buffalo sauce. And I think what's weird about it is that really essential to the flavor of a buffalo wing is the chicken or the cauliflower or whatever. And I think that the fundamental mistake here is to try to, you don't want chicken flavor. Put it on a pretzel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but I bet they'd be good, though, to, like, dip into some kind of, like, a ranch dip or something. Yeah, there's no ranch. This is just, like, hot sauce, kind of hot sauce on a pretzel. It's confusing because you want there to be chicken, but you don't. Yeah. You know. Yeah. So it's, I'm not going to say it's a glowing recommendation, but okay.

If you're curious, give it a try. This is why we do this here, you know? It's very important what we do here, the work that we're doing. This is important work. To make sure that nobody's out there. buying guppers or buying any of this wax candy. And again, if you want to know which ones to definitely never purchase, come follow us over on the last pod network. I always pop up the pictures of the snacks that we try because I want you to either know how to find them or how to avoid them at all costs for the rest of your life.

And that's what, you know, that's sometimes the snacky goes that wacky here on page seven. And thank you all for, I imagine that now we've, we've supped, MJ. I'm done. Are you all sated? Don't make me eat anything else. I will not. And Sina, thank you so much for joining us this week on page seven. Where can we find you?

I'm at Sita now on all the socials, the foreign report show. Hell yes. every Thursdays now. And sometimes Grant Gordon and I will play Slay the Spire late at night and live streaming. We did that randomly this last weekend. That's very funny. And we'll talk about some politics. And then Fronters is going to start recording, I think, in May next month.

Great. New season of that coming up. Hell yeah. Well, I hope that we have you on before that pops out. And we love having you here, Sina. Thank you so much. And seriously, it is such a break and a relief from the disaster that I have to deal with every single day as far as the war.

So thank you seriously for having you. Thank you so much for coming and just, you know, we got to laugh, guys. We got to keep on laughing. And my name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram of Jack That Worm. Coming out with us, this is the big week over on the Patreon. There's lots of convo going on over on the Buffy watch along. So everybody, prepare yourselves.

Remember, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to watch it. But we do have a rage. talk back after the episode and it is that episode from season six. If you are a Buffy fan, you know exactly what we're talking about. But come hang out over there because we

even though we are devastated, we are also having a blast and we've got our Suki Stackhouse on Mondays and we've got our Buffy's on Tuesdays and we've got our wisteria Laniacs every Wednesday get your desperate housewives. Honestly I am living for

desperate housewives every week come and join us, MJ? Yeah, Desperate Housewives will really give you a reason to keep putting one foot in front of the other. So, yes, join the Patreon. It's so much fun. Thank you to everyone who's there. Thank you for your emails, Page 7Podcast at gmail.com.

We really love them. You guys are so kind and wonderful. And more than anything, we love you, Sina. Thank you so much. We really, really love having you here. And I'm glad that you get to not think about the straight of Hormuz for about 10 seconds. And then you can go back to it. If you want, you can bring the wax candy in with you so every time you want to get upset, you just put one of these wax candies in your mouth.

I think if we threw that bag of wax candy into the straight of four moves, that would be the blockade. Everyone's just like, we'll do whatever we can. Just make it stop. And we will see all of you guys tomorrow for Second Helpings. Bye everybody. Bye. This show is made possible by listeners like you. Thanks to our ad sponsors.

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