Page 7 - I Feel Nothing w/ Carolina Hidalgo

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

This week on Page 7 Jackie Zebrowski and Jackie Beautiful are joined by Carolina "Renegade Driver" Hidalgo of "No Dogs in Space"! Jackie graces our ears with a preview of her choir parts and the fabulous news that she has applied for a "Special Moment" in her "woke" choir! Then they discuss how they WON'T be performing for a nation that's recently beheaded journalists unlike everyone at the Riyad Comedy Festival. HEARTBREAK DOESN'T FEEL GOOD IN A PODCAST LIKE THIS, Keith Urban has filed for separation from Nicole Kidman, Leonardo DiCaprio went on "New Heights" and revealed in the long ago time of the 1990's his name was considered too "ethnic" and he was asked to change his name to Lenny Williams, apparently Benicio del Toro was nearly renamed Benny Del, and Bad Bunny has been announced as the Super Bowl halftime show performer! Sherri Shepherd once went to jail cause she thought the rapture (not the most recent one) was comin' and stopped payin' those bills, Costco just released a giant 5 ft advent calendar filled with Lindt chocolate! Then it's time for a list of "Actors Who Got Brutally Honest About Their Wild Diet and Exercise Regiments For Movies And It's Making MY INSIDES HHHHOOIIIITTTT", some blinds that may OR may NOT be true, and a Jackie's Snackies at 1:09:06.878 to kick off this sp0o0o0o0okie snackie season, then this MJ's Minute Munchies at 1:14:23.920 til 1:19:22.300 courteous of a listener and Buc-ee's. All that, and even more on this week's Page 7!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Choir performance, it is not just yet. We are halfway through the season, and so I just figure since I was up this morning working on my parts that I would at least bring one of them in, and I thought it might be surprising that this is one of the songs that we're singing. When the sunshine we shine together, told you I'd be here forever, said I'll always be your friend, took an oath, I must stick it out to the end.

Now that it's raining more than me. never know that we'll still have each other. You can stand under my umbrella. You can stand under my umbrella. Ella, Ella, Ella, A, A, A, A, A, under my umbrella. Ella, Ella, Ella, A, A, A, A, A, under my umbrella.

Thank you. Bravo. That's my favorite one so far. Thank you so much. It has been scary to, you know, it's scary to sing. without your other lowers. You know, it's scary to really give yourself to the lower register. Yes, I am in the lowers with mostly other, mostly men, as well as some deep voiced bitches out there. And, man, Carolina, you were just talking about how if you need to be heard in a loud

bar, you're supposed to deepen your voice because your voice goes further. And so, you know, the lowers are very important. We got to stick it down. But what's important about the lowers is, is distinction of words. And so... Yes. Yes. Yes. One buck a sword,

please. Jackie, what do you want? It works. I guess I needed umbrella, sir. Yes, one umbrella. Give me another umbrella for me to stand underneath with my friend.

At least you get the attention. My umbrella. Ella, Ella. Ella. And you can start just asking that to people, oh my God, I will throw it out there. We are singing a version of rain by Casey Musgraves, which is, you know, I'm not even that huge of a Casey Musgraves fan just because I never really listened to much of her.

But I have cried to Rainbow so many times. And the lowers portion of Rainbow, I, it's, I don't know. I'll come over. Please come over. I need you. I need you with Rainbow. Rainbow. Rainbow.

Yes, I need you. Because it is very scary down in the lowers and we're going to have. And I have applied for a special moment. guys. Oh, that's what they call the solos. They don't call them solos. They call them special moments. And I have applied for a special moment. What kind of woke choir are you at, Jackie?

Oh, yeah. It's a special moment. I love, I mean, I'm not complaining. I think it's great. It sounds like a gender fluid. Oh, yes. All like linguistically inclusive choir. And I just don't let anyone else know about it. Because it sounds very special and it needs to be connected. It's very special. I mean, the first rule of choir is no, shaming.

anyone ever. And the second rule of choir is we leave it at the door. And we all together say we leave it at the door. And then we stand up and we shake it out and we leave it at the door. Because you know what? I'm going to guess that some of the people in choir, I probably don't want to know more about what their background is. I'm just going to throw that out there. But you know, not everybody in choir. And you know that I have an enemy, but my enemy won't be at choir tonight. And that's for the best. Good. Who? Casey? Oh, who? No, I mean, it does sound. I have an enemy in the choir. Oh, yes, it is. I'm not even, I mean, you know what?

Caroline, we're here to be positive. We're not here to talk about our enemies in choir. We're here to lift each other up because it's no shaming anyone ever even though, Carol, I shame you. But that's fine. I'm leaving it at the door. But you know what? That's that door. This door wide open. Bring it right in here, everybody. At page seven, you can break everything. What package are you bringing with you today, Caroline? Welcome to the show. I'm just a little tired, actually. I'm doing a great.

I'm doing pretty good. You look great. Overall, it's not that bad. I mean, of course, I am angry about everything. Oh, no, no, no. But I don't know. That's not new anymore. Very upset.

At our stasis. Yeah. But other than that, though, host of No Dogs in Space coming soon to you. Yes. Yes. Finally coming back. Hell yeah. What's going on with you, Carolina? Besides the everything, you know, anything positive.

Let's get some bright lights out there. Okay. You got any choirs you're a part of? Yes, is there a choir? Like, you certainly know it's not the Riyadh comedy festival. So it's like, oh yeah, I should cancel that. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, honestly, Gary-D him.

This is why we brought you here. It's been a hard month. I know, that LPN, man, I tell you, they begged us to go to that comedy festival in Saudi Arabia. And we were like, we're not big sand kind of people. Like, it gets into our crevices. We're too hairy. We're too big. It's just too much.

Too much of an inconvenience of us being women. That might be a hard part. And so, you know, we're just not going to go. We're just not going to go. Yeah. Yeah, we can choose. Everyone that was a joke. No one asks us and no one would ever want us there and it's for the best.

Yes. I will throw it out there. Shane Gillis was asked. He did turn it down, which is completely understandable. And then they said they doubled their offer. So if you're wondering what's going on with everybody out there and why some of these people are still saying yes, they're making a lot of money.

Which is nuts because I was telling you, like, why are they offering so much money? Are they making a point? Because this is crazy. Like, literal money that has dollar signs on him, I'm sure. Bags of them. Yes. If you haven't been following this controversy, you know, God bless you. And I would say start with Zach Woods's video because, man, Zach Woods' Instagram,

flawless. He has just been making like these absolutely. wonderful, you know, little videos lately, but he has one about the Riyadh Comedy Festival that is both very funny and informant as to the various, you know, human rights violations and journalists dismemberments and stuff that are informing the general negative feeling towards the Riyadh comedy festival and the comedians who chose. It looks like perhaps one person has maybe chosen to, no, it looks, as of recording, we cannot tell if anyone despite the backlash to this has chosen to drop out.

So, you know, it's happening. And it is a choice that those comedians have made. Yes. Yes. So we have choices. Until we don't have choice anymore. Until we don't anymore. As of recording, we do still have choices.

Right now, yeah. Right now we have choices. Who knows what it's going to be by the end of the week. But, you know, we're not even going to get into all of that because I just feel like a lot of this at this point. It's like, guys, I don't know if we. can, you know, do the shame at you any more than anybody else could. But that's what's coming from page seven. I'll throw that out there. I don't think it's a great idea. But unfortunately, man, it is really crazy no matter how much money you make, you still want to make lots more.

Is what I'm picking up what these guys are putting down. Yeah. And no matter how much you yammer on about free speech. that you are you don't give a fuck about it throw those morals out with the baby in the bath water throw all out of here and the baby goes

and you're like it's for the best blah blah blah free speech let's go to Saudi Arabia already but you know there's more important things happening in celebrity news everybody thank you to the many many people who sent me the breaking news

that the love is gone between Nicole Kidman and the person who we frequently forget she's married to. Yeah. That he does wear wrist guards all the time. And MJ, I know that you used to also wear the wristbands. Me too. And you used to, okay, we've got punk kid.

Yeah, yeah, I used to do it in college. Okay. People would come ask me if I was on my way to a tennis lesson. And then I eventually stopped wearing, but I used to wear two pink ones and a pink tie. Before, you know. Wow. Carolina, we would have been friends. We were more of a friends.

We are friends. We are friends, but we would have been then when I was annoyingly a Skah kid. Although I know you were a punk kid, so maybe you would look down on me. No, I was in, no, no, I never looked down because I would be looked down on because I would wear my Catholic schoolgirl uniform to, you know, the shows because I would be coming from school. Oh, I thought you meant because it was like sexy. No, like an average living situation. No, it was not a sexy. It's like one of those like real life Catholic school, you know, where you have to like tuck it in and it billows out.

Not like Rory Gilmore. Nothing is sexy. But I'm so wearing it. I think it is sexy. You never got like approached in a way of like, oh, little girl. Love you. Got any books you want me to hold for you? Only when I was wearing jeans or something.

Oh, okay. That's good. But for some reason, the Catholic School Girl uniform just doesn't work or something. But it's not like I was trying to attract it. It's just that I got a lot of the older punks looking down on me. So I would never look down on MJ. All right. Because I was already getting that.

But I do remember. I did get rid of the wrist guards after a while. Why does Keith Urban wearing wrist wrist? I mean, I didn't know that was. He's sweaty. He's sweaty. He sells them at his shows. This is why I always remember that he always has the wristbands on.

And it must be an instrument thing. You guys play instruments, right? Does it keep your hands from sweat? Yeah, yeah. It keeps the sweat from going onto your hands. And you can use that to wipe your brow so that sweat doesn't go. your eyes. That's good.

Okay, that makes sense. I don't know if I would wipe my brow because, you know, you probably have makeup on. And you're like, oh, God. And then you start looking like death becomes her. Oh, my God. Oh, I love death becomes her. And then, but I would imagine it's so his hands don't get sweaty. I guess so, but, I mean, he ain't sweating right now as he walked out the door on Nicole Kidman.

Now, of course, we were looking into a little bit further into this story because it does seem that Keith Urban is the one that left her. Now again, we're recording a couple days before this show comes out. There's a blow by blow on BuzzSeed that we're going through, which I did read, but I'm just you don't even deserve to be in the same room with her, Keith Urban. How dare you leave her? That's what I'm my stay. I'm sorry.

I love this. And then every time I talk about how much I dislike Keither, but I do feel really mean because I know very little about him and his music. And so I am being needlessly mean. out there. If you were an urbanator, just hit us up and let us know. Is that real? No, no. I'll accept your score if you're an urbanator out there.

I love it. I'm like, I've heard Keith Urban songs. I've been on the earth, you know, for quite a while. And I haven't been impressed. I thought you were about to say Earpth, but, you know. You're on the Earpth, obviously. I know all about Keith Urban. I'm sure that I've heard Keith Urban's music before.

I know that I have. I couldn't, if you made me say it right now, I have no idea. I couldn't sing a bar. I don't know any, I mean, I know Carl Urban. And he doesn't sing. I love Carl Urban though. And maybe this is all a part of the same world, but I don't think they have anything to do with each other.

Only that it's always, I thought it was Carl Urban instead of Keith Urban. And then so he always ends up in this threesome. And now, even though he has nothing to do with any of it. Just because he's an urbanator. Yes. He's also an urbanator. Yes. I'm looking at a list of songs by Keith Urban and I can't sing one.

But they're both days, though. But I can name ten Nicole Kidman movies. So, hey, there you go. See, again, this is why they're in different leagues. Yeah. Heartbreak feels good. In a place like this, I, you know, out here in L.A., don't worry if you are curious, they do,

still clap after the Nicole Kidman adds much to Mike Lawrence's dismay. I love how angry it gets him. I love that he refuses to enter the movie theater until after it is over because it makes him so upset. But here's the thing. Nicole Kidman, right? She got out of the Tom Cruise. She got divorced from Tom Cruise in 2001, right?

She meets Keith Urban in 2005. And very openly was like, I am not looking for. anything. I am, I, I'm taking care of myself now, and that is all that I need. And that's how she went into this relationship with Keith Urban. And he slowly eventually kind of whittled her down. And, but I will say that a lot of people that are close to them have said that they have been drifting apart for quite some time. And then unfortunately, Nicole Kidman, I don't know if this is anything to do with it, did recently lose her mother that she was very, very, very close to. So I imagine there's a lot of like, as someone that has recently lost a parent,

I feel like it really changes your perspective of a lot in ways that you didn't intend for it to or really know that it could. And I do wonder if that is a part of it. There's also the fact that she was feeling all this way. And I never knew this until, I guess, Keith Urban was giving a speech honoring Nicole Kidman at the 49th AFI Life Achievement Award Gout. in April of 2024. And he became open about the fact that he really struggled with addiction problems. And even though they had gotten married four months in, because it doesn't matter if good things are going on in your life, addiction can just rip right through it.

He entered a rehab clinic. And this is also coming. They met in 2005, got married in 2006. She's dealing with all this stuff. He's openly saying that like they struggled a lot. and it has been 19 years and I'm assuming that, you know, they have very fairly different lives.

But I do wonder if her losing her mom had something to do with what's going on here. Right? No, that makes more sense because I did think at first, because I knew about Keith, Carl, Urban's addiction issues. Whatever the Urban is that you are a neighbor of. But then I thought it might not be that.

This is what I do when I'm like sitting alone, you know, before I have to get up and do stuff, you know, for the day. And then I'm wondering, like, okay, then he leaves supposedly. So what is Nicole doing? I mean, I haven't seen baby girl, and then I get upset again. I said, I haven't seen baby girl. What a button to put on the end of that.

Yeah. What if it was baby girl that drove them apart? I'm slightly annoyed that at a speech honoring her, he seems to have spent a large portion of it talking about himself. Good point. Maybe that has something to do with it. I wonder if that. I mean, he was, I think, building her up of like how strong she was.

That's five. What she went through? But it's a lot of like, oh, look how she took care of me. And look what she did for. Me. Yeah, exactly. It should have been more like she's, you know, wonderful. Wonderful.

And she's this. And look what she's achieved and overcome. Yes. Yeah. And again, I am speculating because over the many decades that they have been married, I have refused to learn about him. Surely this has come up before, but did we know that he's from New Zealand? Why is he an American country artist?

He's from New Zealand. He is. He is. Yeah, I did. I did know that. We knew that. We've probably talked about it. We have. We just didn't save.

I apologize. It's okay. But yeah. So, you know, I think that she, her career is just somehow getting exponentially more impressive with each day that passes, right? And she's always been an A-lister, right? I feel like in the last year, she's been, and the last five years she's had an amazing, like every, it just seems like her star is somehow continuing. to rise despite her having always basically been at the top. And I'm not sure we would use the same words to describe Keith Urban, not that you have to be

married to somebody who's stars also rise. But he has been on the top. And he has been like, at least in the world of American music. Yeah. American country he is. He's still a household name. It is weird, though, that I looked up Keith Urban because I was looking up to see if Carl Urban and Keith Urban were related because I've never thought about this before.

But weirdly enough, his PR is pushing. This is the day after. the divorce comes out, this PR story of like, you would not believe what's on Keith Urban's tour bus. Guys, he grinds his own coffee beans. Oh, God. Whatever. Carl Urban is also from New Zealand, you guys.

That's why I was wondering if they were good. They must be related. They're not. Are these stage names? These are real names. Oh, I don't know. Oh, is there an urban dynasty in New Zealand that we don't know about? There must be.

I don't know. And I wonder how often they get confused for each other. And I feel like there should be a lot more information on the Carl Urban and Keith Urban crossover. And why isn't there? It's all this AI bullshit. I don't want the AI bullshit. Give me the goods. Someone must have done the actual research into this.

Maybe to honor this breakup, I'll just watch a bunch of Carl Urban movies. Sure. Because I will watch the Boren Supremacy again. Oh, yeah. And then watch Judge Dred. It's really, really good. It's a lot of fun. Watch like the first two seasons of the boys. It's great. It is really, really great. I have the meeting to watch the boys actually. Thoracner Rock is great. It gets a little, the boys gets a little. The last one, I was like, all right, okay. Are we doing something new here? No? Okay. But that's okay. I hear that the graphic novels are really, really good. And so if I wanted to explore that more, I could in a different avenue. But I'm not. But, you know, speaking of stage names, shall we talk about what Leonardo DiCaprio?

Oh, does he want a little better genie? Oh, gosh, yeah. Oh, does he want a book, teeny? Lenny Williams. We're talking about Leonardo DiCaprio is his real name, right? And at first, when he was, what did they say, 13 years old? Yeah, because he got famous. He was so young.

Yes, or what's eating Gilbert grape or, like, you know, that kind of. I think growing pains came for, if I, if, my 1996 year of obsessing about every single biological fact about Leonardo DiCaprio serves me right. If I'm remembering correctly, I think it was growing pains. And then what's eating in Gilbert Grape? But yeah, so he was quite, quite young. And his real name is Leonardo Wilhelm DiCaprio, which is a very badass name. But of course, at the time, he was told he was too ethnic, which is very funny because he was still very blonde and blue-eyed at the time. But the name was too ethnic. And they tried to change it to Lenny Williams.

Lenny Williams. Laddie Williams. Indeed you were curious, it was Growing Pains was first, and that was the same year as Critters Three, which surprisingly did not, was not the jumping off point for his career. No, no, apparently he did leave Growing Pains for, like, movies, and I think Critters Three was just kind of a thing that just came out. Yes. Oh, that's what it was.

So MJ's right about what's eating Gilbert's great. This Boy's Life and What's Eating Gilbert's Great. That was both the same year. That was both 93. So we had that huge movie with Robert De Niro, had the fucking huge role of a lifetime in what's eating go grape. What's wrong with the Italian dates? Right.

I mean, it is, I do think it is funny that, you know, even then, so that's early 90s that they looked at. But Henry was also told to change his last name at some point. Really? To what? I don't even know if they gave him an option. They just wanted him to change. Henry Thomas.

Henry Thomas. It's already been done. Let's too late now. Get rid of their original. Henry Thomas Williams. Yes. Yeah. Honestly.

Or one of those Henry A. Zabrowski or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. A. A. It's like under his umbrella. Henry J.

Zabrowski, I think, would be better. Thank you. He should take on my name. Yeah, Henry Jackie Zabowski. Mind you, this conversation with Leo happened on the podcast that I cannot call by its real name.

I want to call it such great. Heights. It's new heights. Is that what it is? The Pauce Brothers podcast. Correct. Yeah. You did it. Out the gate. New Heights. New Heights. But he was in conversation with Benicio Deltoro, who also was told to change his name to Benny Dell. What are we? Benile.

Ben, Del. It's just such a Lenny Willey of this. Both of them, it's like, you guys didn't think for a second. Maybe this is because we were just reading the Joan Rivers memoirs. And at first, I forgot what it was. Her name was like, Flamenco, Julie. Juliet or something stupid that it was just like, what are you talking about? She's like, I'm just to use my first name and come up with a new second name. It just, you don't need to shorten both.

And it's like, no, that makes you more zippy. It makes it easier for, nobody can say, Benicio. Oh, my mouth is so tired by the end of it. Hey, but what about Benny? Well, I told you, I told you, Jackie, that I, as a kid, I knew that my last name would was to whatever to be a good stage name. And so, Caroline, I don't know if you know this about me, but I was probably about nine or ten.

I think it's the same era as my Leonardo DiCaprio obsession, honestly. And I had decided that my stage name would be Jackie Beautiful. Wow. Jackie Beautiful. Before they even met me, Jackie Beautiful has been on the scene. Yeah. And sadly, once I met you, Jackie was taken. and I couldn't, but, you know, I always knew.

I mean, Jackie Beautiful isn't taken. If you want to, if you want me to start calling you Jackie Beautiful. We can if you really, really want to. I still have time. There's Jackie, and there's Jackie Beautiful. Yeah. It will not be confusing. It will not be a Carl Keith Irvin problem.

No, no, no, no. And everyone be like, why? Why did they change their name? Like, they are also, like, they don't need to do that at all. We can just call them Jackie Blue beautiful if you want. It does make me want to say Jackie Blue, though. Oh, Jackie Blue. Blue. Remember that song?

No. No. Just me. That's fine. I like to live alone over here. And also I like to live alone while I go, yay, Bad Bunny, but I don't know if I'm alone in that for Bad Bunny. Yay. That's right. The headliner for the 26th Super Bowl,

I'm very excited for Bad Bunny. I'm very excited because there was a lot of talks that it was going to be Taylor Swift. There were then a lot of talks that was going to be Adele. And while, oh, I love me some Adele. Yeah.

I don't know if that Super Bowl halftime, yeah. And also, isn't she like really, really a stage? Fright, yes. And that's like the whole world is watching you. Why do that to yourself? Yeah, you're right. And Adele, I love, I love. But I don't know if we all want to just cry, you know, during the halftime show.

I mean, not hate to you. I mean, rolling the deep is good, but how much more can you take that? I mean, you have to just do the song and be like, that's it. And that's it. This is my only banger that I can think of that's not going to leave. She's got other bangers. That's terribly bad. But the ones that don't have breakups.

Yes, you're right. Yeah. What's play ball? Yeah, she like, humbs out. Who's someone like you? And everyone's like, I guess we're at a ball game. A ball game. Now, big news about bad bunny.

This is so, I think it's so fun and exciting. I've got a lot of friends who are huge bad bunny fans. And of course, you know, one of the big things about. him is that recently he had said that he doesn't want to do shows in the United States because of ICE. And also, he is an extremely proud Spanish speaker and often will go in English speaking spaces without speaking English, even he can't speak English, but we'll choose purposely to speak Spanish. And I think I'm surprised, honestly, that this is the choice that was made because obviously, Maga is freaking out. And I think it's really neat that this is what's

going to happen. I'm also surprised because there was a weird backlash of people that were like, oh, I thought you were protesting ICE. Interesting that you're going to get on the stage and do. But here's the thing, guys. If you had looked for a second, he had openly said, I'm not doing shows in the United States because I'm worried about ICE camping out in front of my shows and trying to round up my fucking fans. So I'm not even going to put them in that situation because you know that's exactly what ICE would do. So he, and it's like, ICE isn't going to be dragging people out of their beds at the Super Bowl. This is a great opportunity for a performer to get up there.

And actually, this is a statement. This makes it a statement. It totally is. And I am very surprised. I'm along with you, MJ, that very surprised that this is happening, we will see, I'll throw it out there. I don't know what we're going to get and what kind of like, protests we're going to get.

I don't know what this is going to be. It's, man, guys, it's a really interesting time to be alive. Yeah. It's really crazy. And I have to say, I listened to Bad Bunny's music for the first time on purpose yesterday.

It's fun, man. It is not for me, for sure. Understandable. But it does make me dance sometimes. Yes. And I was listening to the words and seeing like, okay, this is really good that he's going to be speaking, singing, rapping, or, you know, bumbling. I'm not sure what he does, but, you know, he does it well.

Bumbling. And he's going to do this in Spanish. He's like, I want to know, like, what is he going to be saying? You know, so I was like listening to some of the lyrics and it's just like, you don't call me no more. So I'm like, okay, well, that's good too. That's fine. That's fine.

That's so funny, though, because he's being received as this, like, I mean, he is a political artist because of the choices that he makes. But it is also funny that's like, yeah, it's like, these are love songs. Like, he's just, he's just, he's just so. He's just, he's political. because he's speaking out against ICE, but also people are just experiencing him as political because he speaks Spanish

because, you know, that's, that's, people are losing their minds over New York. You don't even know what to do with it. Whole-minded these people are. It's like, it's a different language. Guess he's against us. Oh my God, what is wrong with you? But we're not screaming about that.

We are screaming as, you know, I'm so happy for you, bad bunny. Go fucking kill it. So excited to see what you do with it. I hope that it is an opportunity that provides hope for people. I hope that it is something that we can really hopefully get behind and that it's not, that we don't just watch it all turn to liquid shit in front of our eyes. It's also just like he's so popular.

It makes so much sense to have one of the most popular and beloved musicians play at the Super Bowl. Again, yes. It shouldn't be political, but he's just like what that was what was last Saturday. he did his like live stream concert. And I swear every single person I followed on Instagram was like, I got to get home to get like people at first I thought it was, I was like, oh, is he in New York? Because everyone was like, got to get to the concert, got to get my friends, we're partying.

And then it was like, oh, it's a live stream. But it was just like everyone's so hype about, you know, about the show. And so I have really enjoyed the bad bunny discourse except for the, you know, the freaks. They can stay. Yeah. Well, the freaks are going to freak with their. tap tap, tap, tap, tap, oh, the second they see something, they're like, oh, good, another thing to tap, tap, da, tap, da, da, ta.

And, you know, it's like go eat a croissant or something. Like, go experience something in real life for just a moment. Go smile for a second because I think you might need it. And I don't know if this might be the story that puts a smile on your face because weirdly it put a smile on mine. Sherry Shepard once ended up in jail because she truly believed the rapture was coming and stopped paying her bills.

Yes. Now, I have a bone. Oh, I love. To pick. Is it because of the current, now, were you aware of current rapture talk? Were you aware that the world was about to end last week? I was aware of that, yeah.

I don't have a TikTok, but someone did tell me. Yes. And luckily, in time to see that there was no rapture. And that we wouldn't have been raptured anyway, and it wouldn't have been something that literally anyone in this office would know about or be affected by, Except Holden would probably lose his wife and daughter, but other than that, I feel like we probably would be fine.

Absolutely. No, but what happened, okay, so this is my bone with Sherry Shepherd. I used to watch The View when I was like young. Oh, God, I loved. And I met Sherry Shepherd because I went to go see a live taping of The View, and they pulled me to do the, like, next segment, like next up on the View. You did that? You were on the View?

That's so cool. And I talked to Sherry Shepherd, but now I wish I'd asked her, so $10,000 in moving violin. huh that you didn't pay because you thought there was a rapture? Now please, okay, what's the bone? What's the bone? I've known, I don't know this woman. This is how parisotally becomes when you watch the view, right?

This is what we do. Yes. So I've been watching since forever, since school and stuff. And I remember every time she would say something, it would be like, not every time, but there would be some things that are just insane. Like she would say like, what are you talking about? The world's only 2,000 years old. And everyone would look at her and Ruby Goldberg is like,

Let's go to commercial. Because I got to set everything up into, I got to explain the whole world, the evolution of like a minute and a half. Well, you know. And so she's, and I'm not saying like she's awful. She's this. She's that. It's just, it was just kind of disappointing to be like, you put these people on TV and the

rest of us are just like in a basement. Yeah. You know, it was especially, thank you for bringing that up, Carolina, because I also watched the view at this time. This is actually something that Marcus, Jackie and I. all bonded about early days of page seven. We certainly did. We loved, like circa 2008 to the view. We should watch old episodes again.

I mean, I loved Wendy Williams. I mean, what was so tricky about Sherry Shepard is that she was often in conversation like with Elizabeth Hasselbeck, who was the conservative on there at the time, right? And often Sherry Shepard was right about like if they were discussing social issues, Elizabeth Hasselbeck would take the conservative side and very often. Sherry Shepard was, I mean, often she was advocate, she was like, like, also just having the perspective of being an African-American woman, even if not like a raging liberal, but she was more on the liberal side.

And but then also she was crazy about God and Christ. And so I was like, it was one of those things where it's like she would be completely the most reasonable person at the table, like 85% of the time. And then 15% of the time, something would come out of her mouth. Yeah, totally. What? The world is new. I know my coffee or my chocolate milk sometimes.

Yes, totally. I don't agree with you, Sherry Shepherd. Now, Sherry has her own daytime talk show host. Yeah, and I get, bitter. Yeah, and the fact that, you know, she got that off the view. And it is crazy that in her opening monologue, and it's because of all the rapture talk, she said, you know, she started following. She said, I used to be in a religion that told me that the rapture was coming. She said, they told us to get our house in order.

And I said, why? I'm not going to need a house where I'm going. I don't need these worldly possessions. So she stopped paying her bills. She said, I didn't pay my bills. I didn't pay my taxes. I did not pay my traffic tickets because why would I pay anything when the world's about to end? My registration had been expired for two years.

I had seriously $10,000 worth of unpaid moving violations. How? It's just like what was your, like this. She's talking as if like, okay, it's going to happen in the future, right? This is going to happen at some point. We're not talking like, oh, it's 2012. It's going to happen on this day. She was just preparing for, oh, it's going to happen someday, so I may as well not.

So how do you live a life where you go through all these things? You end up getting picked up and taken to jail for eight days. How was your life not over? You spent, like, you owed so much money. You were so behind. And I guess, I don't know, is part of this, like with the view and having her own talk show, does she have to to pay all this stuff back? But I guess $10,000 to someone like her probably isn't that much money.

She probably paid it back by now. I'm guessing. I would, but for anybody else, like your life is over. How do you afford to try to pay that back? Yeah. And that's such a crazy, I'm sorry. It's a crazy thing to admit on your show to be like, and then I just like, oh, crazy, got arrested for eight days.

and then I had to pay it back. That's another bone I have. It's like you just told the worst parts of the story. Like, if you lived a life like you were going to die any moment, I want to know, what were your days like? Were you parking on a lawn? Thank you. You know, like, what did you do?

Yes, like, let's toin it up. Let's do something new and weird. And it's like, all of a sudden, it's like, you know, it's like, why are you doing this? Oh, because the world is about to end. And that makes sense. Like, go get crazy. I don't know.

Is she covered the tattoos? cut your tongue into a roo? Like it's a snake's tongue. I don't know what you would do with that kind of information. I wonder if this was the 2012 rapture, though, when she was on the view, because I feel like you could only really accumulate that many fines moving violations if you are, you know, acting with reckless abandon. No offense to anyone out there who has $10,000 with the moving violations. But like, I'm sure that we all have unpaid tickets out there. And I definitely have been one to borrow someone's car, get a parking ticket, and then forget. to pay the parking ticket and have that friend get very mad at me because it was in their name.

And I've right, righted that wrong. Okay? So I get it. We all make mistakes. But I wonder, because remember, I know I brought this up last week, but 2012 was the last time, or one of the last times that there was like a really big rapture feeling. Yes. And she was in, she was on the view. I just remember it was really, 2008 was peak view because that was also when I was peak unemployed, newly graduated from college, unemployed.

And I watched the view religiously. And I just wonder if maybe she was. She was living large on all that view money, you know. And then when the 2012 rapture didn't come, she, that was when her chickens came home to roost. I'm not sure. I think it was before, to be honest. And this is me doing my view nerd. View method.

I'm just going to jump in. View method. Yes. Okay. Do it. Because I do remember her mentioning in conversation. And she's like, yeah, that's when I was arrested. And I was in jail for a weekend.

Anyway. And then everyone stops like, like, yeah, I got arrested. What? It was on paid parking tickets. Oh, she mentioned it on the air. She did. And I remembered that story, because I'm in the, I guess I hate Sherry Shepard Facebook group page now admin. We're not saying make one.

No, no, no, please don't make one. But it was, I noticed that because I have, I've never been arrested or even had a speeding ticket, but I did have a bench warrant once in college. How do you get a bench warrant? MJ, what's a bench warrant? If you get a summons or a ticket and you do not pay it. Depending on the offense that you can get a warrant out for your arrest, which means they're not going to come find you, but if something else happens to you, you have an outstanding warrant.

They will arrest you on the spot. Okay. And so it's because I had so many parking tickets. I eventually, I think I've told you guys this story, I had to sell my car to pay for all the tickets, and I have not driven since. Wow. I didn't realize that.

Ever since. I don't drive. I took an Uber here. I don't drive at all. And now is it the truck? Or is it just, you just decide. Don't let me your car. Don't let me your car.

No, I understand. It's because I just kind of wanted my life a little simpler. I get it. I understand, you know. And it's easy. And then you're living in New York, so whatever. Oh, yeah. We didn't go apple picking this weekend because my children are so vehemently anti-car.

They are, they are advocating for the world they want to live in. They imagine a future without cars. No cars. They were like, can we go apple picking by train without ever? getting in a car. And I was like, I don't think we can. We're in the wrong city for that. Sorry. And but yeah, so I, I love the carless society that I imagine. I mean, mind you, we're always dodging cars that are trying to hit us here. But we still imagine that we live in a world without cars here. So I support you, Caroline. I also, again, unpaid parking tickets, I understand. I only got

one speeding ticket in my life. And I did cry, which is very embarrassing. What do you mean? I cried every single time. And it got me out of most of the tickets. Well, you know, there's a lot of our privilege, interesting. Yeah. And that's why I'm embarrassed by it. I was like, please don't give me a ticket.

But they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes they will. But sometimes you can cry, cry, cry right out of it. Really depends on how much of a spiral you can really work yourself into, which man, I tell you. Mine is fast and it is tumultuous. But hopefully they're not referring to the new advent calendar as such.

Costco just released a five-foot advent calendar and it's filled with lint chocolate. Carolina, here at this show, big supporters of advent calendars. I really wish that every month or like every other month we could have an advent calendar. I feel like it's not, I'm not going to say it's something to live for, but I will say that oftentimes if I have an advent calendar gets me out of bed. Oh, yeah. issues get yourself an advent calendar. You got to get up.

Somebody's got to open that door. Somebody's got to look inside of that advent calendar. And I will say our good friend of us, Jasmine usually will get us fun, weird advent calendars last year. She got me, I'm really big into slime to keep my hands busy.

And she got me a great slime Advent calendar. So every day was a new scented. That is cool. Advent calendars have come very far, Carolina. And I don't know when the last time you had an Advent calendar was.

I don't think I've ever had one. I don't think I've ever No, no. Absolutely not. Well, we're going to need to change this for you, Carolina. Okay. Jasmine. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We'll take care of it. But I will say, I don't know if you want to start with one that is five feet tall. And I don't know if you want to start with one that is, how much is it? $190. Wow. Honestly, if you're going to spend that kind of money,

you got to get the whiskey one. Every year, I tell myself I'm going to get a little treat. and I'm going to get myself the whiskey one or the wine one, but they are like $200 because we are talking about 24 servings of alcohol. So I think if you're going to spend that much, if you're going to spend that much money on the Advent calendar, you've got to get the boozy one. But is it boozy one like a shot in a shot glass maybe or something? Yeah, it's like a little airport.

And go to work. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You definitely go to work right after you. I mean, that's, it's your Advent calendar. I don't know. I've never had one. You just do whatever you want with your advent calendar.

Right. Can I take it to the bathroom? Yeah, you do you. It's your advent calendar. Or, you know, sometimes you have to get two of the same Advent calendar. Like, if I get an Advent calendar for MJ's kids, you have to make sure that they both have the same Advent calendar. Like when they had the tiny. Polypocket.

Polypocket. I got them Polypocket ones. And that really was, I felt like I deserved greatest aunt of all time. But I haven't been able to top that. Oh, huge hit. You know what works? And I do this all the time because, you know, we have friends who have kids. And I have a niece and nephew.

And Marcus has nieces and nephews as well. And it works every time, all the time. I don't even bother with anything else. It's either cash or if you're young enough, this is the best part, stickers. Whoa. Stickers? That's it. That's it for kids.

Oh, yeah. That's all you got to do. Honestly. I throw a bunch of stickers at CNA and Cosmos kids. Like, here, make a pizza with this. Yeah. Oh, it's true. I got a bone to pick with stickers right now because my...

We have more bones. Oh, my bones in the pipeline. That's good because Carl, Urban's David in Star Trek movies was Bones. Whoa! Urbanators herb! No, you know, okay, so I don't even know if this is going to make sense to people. You know, when you get a letter and the letter is like, you have to, hey, welcome, now you're in my club.

You have to send, anyway, my children's friends are sending them sticker club letters, and they say, welcome to the sticker club. Now you have to make a copy of this piece of paper. Send it to 10 people. and include a packet of stickers in each one. And I and my friends, my kids' friends, parents texted me and asked me for my address. And I was like, I'm not doing it. No. No.

I was like, I'm going to give you my address because I can tell that you're, I know that like you are currently texting me from the table where you're sitting down with your frustrated child being you're realizing you don't know any of your friends' addresses because that's not the world we live in right now. And so I was like, I'm going to tell you my address so that your child has something to write on the envelope. I'm going to tell you right now I'm not doing it. That stack of letters about the sticker club stayed on my like to-do pile for about three weeks until you know what I did this weekend?

threw it away. I left it and released it and I threw away. Brimized back into the wild. I'm sorry if you're a parent of one of my kids' friends and you're waiting on the sticker club. I'm so sorry. I don't have the bandwidth. I'm not going to do it. I'm just not going to do it.

But I love the idea. I hope this is how they find out. I'm sorry. But yes, you are right, Carolina. Stickers are currency for children, but I'm not doing a chain letter. I love, and yes, snow mail is fun. Yes. It's a great idea.

I can't. I can't. You know what, for Christmas or for the holidays, I'm going to give MJ a PO box and never give them the key. I think that's right. So you can never get any of the mail. Sure. You could send me anything you want. Send it.

Send it. I'll just grab it, put it in the trash, close it. And say, thank you. Not even do that. Someone else is going to have to do it because they won't even have to. have the key. No, I'd be like, MJ, are you busy? Sorry. Good. I'm glad you are because you do not want to receive this package. Thank you for letting me get that. I felt so guilty. You got to let it out. I just kept looking at that pile, a sticker, I got to do this, I got to do this. We absolve you.

I don't. No. I don't have to do it. You don't. And I'm not going to do it. Because you know who's not doing it? The children. And so no one else? Yeah, they're not doing it. Yes, that's the thing. It's like, you should be receiving 36 packets of stickers if everybody does their shit. No. This is a man. It didn't happen. You're just like throwing back to how many projects I remember my mom would like look at the paper and be like, this isn't a project for you. This is a project for me. This is for me to do most of the project.

And you are just going to go in and be like, my mom glued this thing on this thing. And it's like, yeah. And then you have to like lie about it as a kid, even though everyone knows you weren't using the hot glue gun. Somebody had to you do it. That's true. Actually, my mom used to draw. I couldn't draw for shit.

So my mom would draw for me. Get in there. And you would, and I remember one time they're like, okay, here's a pen, do that again, and I could. And I'm sorry. And I'm sorry. Shame is. What's huge. What's huge back of the day.

Oh, yeah. I mean, to this day, oh no, you can shame me into most things. But now finally I've deadened many nerves that and, you know, stand up, working with children. I feel nothing. That'll do that. That'll definitely do that to you. But hopefully, you're. going to feel what's on the list.

Oh! Who's on the list? Me! Jackie! Gotta have that list. Actors who got brutally honest about their wild diet and exercise regimens for movies, and it's making my inside hoi. Another one of these. Is it just Christian Bale for many different entries?

No, there are a couple of other ones on here. Don't worry, there's Zach Efron thrown on here. No, we're not talking about him slipping on the Mar-Ebron. marble floor and hitting his jaw on a marble fountain, which is why he got jaw reconstructive surgery. And no, Carolina, he did not get anything done to his face because he chose it. Every time someone's like, what work is Zach Efron getting done? Zach Efron goes, I'm not getting work done. I had to have my face reconstructed. But anyway, we're not talking about that. No, we're talking about his physique in Baywatch during a 22

interview. Zach got real about his extreme diet and exercise, which involved waking up a at 4 a.m. every day to train and taking powerful diuretics to look extra lean, and they actually damaged his health on a much deeper level. Surprise, the big watch look, he said, I don't know if that's really attainable. It's just too little water in the skin. Like, it's fake. It looks CGI. I started to develop insomnia and fall into a really bad depression. Something about that experience burned me out. I had a really hard time re-centering. Ultimately, they chalked it up to taking way too many diuretics for way too long and it mess something up. I believe that.

That is, and like these, I know that we do talk about this on here a lot, but I feel like every time I get into this conversation with Jeff about like Jack Reacher and like the idea of the male gaze and like it really is so crazy to think about what Kurt Russell looked like in the thing, like what Kurt Russell looked like in, you know, big, big little China. He was built, but he had an attainable human body. And now it has been pushed to such an extent that people have to actually hurt themselves to be able to play these characters, which is like, guys, in this world that we now have so much that we can do to not have to do that, why is that still the ideal?

Like I almost watched train wreck on the liver king last night, which is this crazy fucker on TikTok that only eat, oh God, what did he call it? I forgot what he said that it was like the way he only ate like liver and beef and no, nothing green, nothing, like no vegetables, only meat. And he claimed that he had no steroid use when in reality he was using upwards of $15,000 of steroids a month to look the way that he looked. But anyway, sorry, I'm not talking about that. Advent calendar.

Yeah. Yeah. Just pieces of liver and that's how you get big like the liver game. Oh, the steroid advent calendar. Oh, man. Now a steroid advent calendar. Yeah, drug out. Advent calendar would be fine.

A little taste. And then you're hooked by the end and then you got to go figure it out for your own damn self. It's like I've given you a hobby. Well, Beyonce honestly has talked a lot about the ways in which she is strict before going on tour. It makes sense. She is Beyonce. But also for Dreamgirls in 2007. She was so young.

For a role in Dreamgirls, Bays said she lost 20 pounds in two weeks by doing something called the master cleanse. Oh, yeah, I remember the Master Cleanse. Not healthy. It is just lemon juice, cayenne pepper, and maple syrup. And for how long that everyone knew about the Master Cleanse, this was something that was just like,

oh yeah, you want to drop it fast? Master Cleanse. That is, and then now we at least have lots of dietitians. We've got lots of science. that say that that like cleanses, things like that, really aren't do. I mean, sure, I guess if you want to really hurt yourself and lose 20 pounds in two weeks, I guess it does the trick. Why did she have more than two weeks?

Did no one like say, call her or put it on her calendar? That's crazy. Yeah, can't we? We can't figure this out. I can't even gain 20 pounds in two weeks. Like, I could try. But how do you lose it? I don't know.

Sorry, I am mystified by this. I have heard of this cleanse. I have heard that cleanses can be good if you do it for like half a day or something or a day or let like a whole cycle go through. But you're not supposed to do this like for a while, right? No. We're supposed to eat. Also, Beyonce's dancing too much. She needs the calories.

She needs calories. She's working out and she's chasing after kids. And also it's like Dreamgirls. It's like you're doing a full musical movie. So it's like you need a lot. of you. And when you're not feeding yourself, your body is not running off of anything. Yes. And your brain is a little slower. You're not reacting. And she's mad. She didn't get that Oscar nod. You should, if you put some food in your brain. Maybe you'd have it. Maybe.

Yes. You could have gotten a little closer to that short list. Yeah. Or, I mean, you know, who also didn't get any kind of accolades for it. Chris Hemsworth in the heart of the sea. Don't remember this movie at all, but don't worry. Oh, yeah. Chris Hemsworth had to lose 33. pounds in four weeks. He said he ate nothing but boiled eggs salads and nothing else. Why don't they just say like May, May, may be like this. Is that or? Yeah, I know.

Are you alive? Do you have? Like, are you like, can you do the lines? Or get an actor who fits in the costumes. I cannot believe. I know that a lot of these movies are from the past, but we're so still doing this. There was a article from a couple weeks ago that we talked about. Maybe it was

Christian Bale. The rapid like losing and gaining and losing and gaining. And it's just like, can we leave this in the past? Can we recognize that this just like professionally proud disordered eating and steroid use and whatever it might be? Just does not something, it's not, we're not making Philadelphia anymore. We didn't need to do it then. We didn't need to do it then. We don't need to do it now.

And you're so right because then it's like, or you show up and you think you're doing what they want you to do like Ryan Gosling did with the lovely bones. And he got the lovely bones. and they believed that the character should be 210 pounds. So in preparation, he began drinking, melted Hagenas ice cream whenever he was thirsty. When he eventually showed up to set 60 pounds heavier than his usual weight, he was fired by the film's director, Peter Jackson. He said, oh, we had a different idea of how the character should look. So he showed up on set, fatter.

Oh, my God. Much fatter. And then was immediately fired. Wow. Oh, Peter Jackson. It's just like... From New Zealand, by the way. No.

I wonder if he's an urbanator, but I know that Peter Jackson looks very different than both Carl and Keith Urban. This is... No, this to me, I mean, I have been spending, like, a month. It's been, like, living in my head. I'll think about this every now and then, because I read an IMDB when I was watching Castaway with Tom Hanks. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. You know, he had to do this.

Yes. He had to do a whole transformation. IMDB trivia. He said... And this bothered me. He said, I had to give up French fries for a year. And I was like, that's it, guys, that's it. That's it.

I mean, he also had to work out like four hours a day. Of course, but still. But the French fries for a year really drove me crazy because I'm like, and so now I haven't been on French fries for like two weeks, by the way, guys. Wow. I used to eat French fries a lot. Really? Yeah, they're really good. Yeah, they are delicious.

But I will say are French fries your favorite preparation of potato. Yes. Wow. Really? Yes. And you're awful. More than a chip. More than chips. Yes. I like french fries so much. When I get chips, I'm like, do you have French rice? Wow. Yeah, no, it's great. Anyone could eat them. You know, you can eat them all day long.

But now you're not great for you. What are you going to do? I've been eating chips, actually. Wow. Interesting. So you're replacing what you're. How is that making the health? I don't know. How is that? Is that helping? I was like, this is just salt. It's just salt. And then I have to eat fruit now or something. I'm not top. I'm not top. I'm not I remember whoopi Goldberg in the 2008, the view cast, Whoopi, said she can't eat, she can't keep potato chips in her house because that's her like Achilles heel.

Whoa. At the time, I thought maybe I should stop keeping potato chips in the house because it's also my Achilles heel. And then you realize what kind of a life is that? Exactly. What, you never want to smile ever again either? Yeah, but I understand it is hard, like a chocolate. I can never just leave it there. Like, I know people who will take a few bites and then put it there.

Like Marcus, like my husband, Mark, and he'll let it sit there for like a week. And I'm like, well, then it's like, you can't do that. No. No. No. In like two days. Yeah, you've got to get it in. You have to, it has to be over.

And then you have to just like finish the whole thing. And then when you get more, you say, I'm going to like let this one, you know, kind of ride out for a while. But then you don't. Or you don't. Or you make sure that you always have extras and have backups. I mean, you know how I am with twin snakes. So if I need my snakes and if I'm at snakes, you don't want to be around me.

I'm running out of snakes, but I also wouldn't want to be around Natalie Portman while she was shooting the movie Black Swan. Because, of course, she said there were some nights I thought I was literally going to die because she was eating so little. But what she did say, that, like, it also made me think of past eating disorders was her talking about, like, during Black Swan, she smoked cigarettes.

And so she's like, so you know what you do? You smoke a bunch of cigarettes. That's what you do. And then you don't think about how hungry you are. You just smoke cigarettes. She did say, I don't suggest anyone do this. But, you know, cigarettes will really help it slide right off. Maybe we should pick it back up, Carolina.

Nah. No? No. That is Guedith Paltrow's secret, too. Really? It's that she has always smoked even through all the goop stuff. She was still smoking. Not constantly, but smoking.

smoking was how she managed to maintain her eating disorder. Oh, yeah. Same with Judy Garland, right? Same idea. Or it was just to make her voice raspier or something? I mean, that too, but also just like, I'm sure keep her awake and keep her going. Yeah, yeah, it is a stimulant. Yeah.

But last but not least, I'm jumping back up. In the opposite way, Austin Butler, to become Elvis, said he would go get two dozen donuts and eat them all before every, you know, before every time he would. go on set, he would just eat a dozen donuts. And he did take inspiration from Ryan Gosling, drinking microwaved Hagenas ice cream, and did that as well. So it's, you know, this is why I want to talk about these things. Guys, don't do that.

Yeah. Don't do that. Maybe we don't do this anymore. Is there a way that we could not do this anymore? He should have been eaten the Elvis sandwich. Yeah, man. He's method. Yeah.

That would have been good. You know, like if you're going to be method and you, you know, at least eat what Elvis was said. Get into it. I've seen it. I've seen the, I have some recipes, some Elvis sandwich recipes. They are amazing. Some of them include like an entire thing of cream cheese as one of the things. Like it is crazy. Hell yeah. And that Elvis would go like get on his plane and fly and get like special sandwiches and stuff. And oh man, I was obsessed with what he ate. Yeah. Are there books on just what he ate? No, but we're going to start one. I got that.

Please, I would love that. Well, the Priscilla Presley memoir is coming out soon, and we are going to read the shit out. Oh, we are going to be. I am interested in finding out. Yeah, I want to know more about that. Well, Jackie, I heard that your list is done, and suddenly I'm having a hard time with my eyesight. I think I'm going blind. Items.

Ah, we can't see them. I can't see them either. All right. I've got a couple. Together also side by side. I cannot see them. We cannot. I've got a couple for us here.

I think these are going to be fun. Now, this first one is for Jackie, but Carolina, hopefully you'll get what I'm putting down here. This permanent A-list comedian hasn't been seen in a few days. Must have gotten bruised up again. This comedian hasn't been, oh, Jay Leno. Correct. What's going on with Jay Leno?

Jay Leno's missing. No way. Carolina, have you followed anything of what's going on with Jay Leno? I will say the last time I blamed Jay Leno for something all of L.A. became on fire. So I don't know if I should blame because I blamed the windstorm on Jay Leno. And the windstorm is what created and started and made the fires much, much worse. And Jay Leno is always, every time you go over to all the AMCs that are in Burbank, he is always has at least one night that weekend performing at the googies, gig. giggle giggle bots, goggy, goggy to village.

Whatever I always, is it the giggle hot? It's one of those. It's one of those. And I see it every single time. He was there the one time I went to an AMC movie with you, Jackie. He was there. It's always up there. It's always up on the thing.

And I have been joking that I'd like to go see J. Leno perform every time I go to the movies. I'm like, oh, Jay Leno's performing and I have to bring it up. We see Jay Leno all the time in just he's around Burbank. I've seen him. Actually, when he's, his car broke down and he was on his phone. Dude. Like, I think I said everyone pictures because I obviously took pictures of Jay Leno when he was having a really bad day.

But was he covered in bruises? No, but he was pissed. Oh, I'm sure he was pissed. But recently there's been a lot of stories because he keeps like, at first he like fell down a hill and then he had all these bruises. And then he had he fall going to a guy, I don't know, on birthday cake, and he was in a car accident. He was in a car accident. He was in a car accident and then that's why he was more beaten up and then this happened and this. There have been a lot of J. Brie's on the internet that maybe he owes people money and that he keeps getting the shit beaten out of him.

I don't think that's true. No. You'd think he'd sell some of the cars. Yes, exactly. Take all those cars. Take three of these. Have some of the cars. He's looking rough, man.

Do not Google search J-Let-O right now. He is looking, he is not looking his best. Not that I'm never going to say that he was ever like on. Yeah, but it's like, oh my God, this picture where half of his face is covered in a bruise and he has an eye patch on. Yes. Oh, okay. I see this. Okay.

So I hope everyone Googles this. He does look like the subject of some sort of medieval painting of a man was about to die because his children's bones are around him or something. Early days, he just keeps falling down hills. Yes, Carolina. And now he's missing. He's missing. He probably fell down another hill, guys. Have you checked Burbank?

Have you looked under every seat? We got to start to scour in Burbank. We're just going to be like, Jay. Jay, where are you? I will check the bathroom on my way out. Please. He's got to be around here somewhere. And also, guys, I don't fact check the blinds, all right?

Sometimes people get mad at me for what the blinds say. I am not confirming that Jay Leno is officially missing. So if you find him, let me know. But take it up with the blinds. Take it up with the blinds. I also need everybody to know that all of this I find very funny. And I do feel the need to say, I don't support Jay Leno's politics. And I don't support Jay Leno as like a, I don't think he's hilarious either.

I just wanted to throw that out there. I don't want people thinking that like, why do you? It's like, I just think it's kind of funny. Well, at this point, yeah, why not? Why not go find out? He'll find out. Plus, he doesn't, he's not going to do anything. That's the thing. He's like, he's not going to do anything to you. It keeps falling down hills. I know. If you tried to take a swing at you, he'd fall down another hill. He's not a threat anymore. He's been disarmed. We can, we don't have to really care about his politics anymore because he's too busy falling down.

Yeah. Number two, the cucumber celebrity is desperate to stay on the network reality show. She thinks it will get her another season of her own show. Or at the worst, she thinks she can be a housewife. Oh, a desperate one? A desperate one. Dear, I mean, oh, yes. And don't you, if that bitch becomes a real housewife, I will flip out. I will flip out. Because does that mean she would be a real housewife of New York? Wait. Yeah, I mean, she could never.

Or Spain? Thank you, yeah. Once we get real housewives of Spain. And then they're all real, like Spanish. Actual Spanish women, yes. Real housewives of Mallorca. Yes, please. And do, what do you?

And then she goes, K'i? And then credits. Cucamba? Yeah, exactly. And then done. Unseen. And that's about it.

That's all because she's recently. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. We'll be right there. Just lose 20 pounds and three days. To lose 20 pounds. Keep dancing, bitch. Because she is currently on Dancing with the Stars.

We've been watching, MJ and I are watching Dancing with the Stars for the first time ever. We've never seen anything before this season. But it's because specifically there are two reality stars. on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives that we really like, well, really like, but we are watching. But Hilaria is also on Dancing with the Stars, which is technically we see week to week more and more not fair because you're really not supposed to have that much dance training. And she is a, she does train. Is she a dancer? Yeah, she was, she was, like a very experienced dancer and has spoken out publicly before about how in the past, how she wouldn't do dancing with the stars because she was too qualified. But then she had an Instagram video this week about how everyone just kept the fans just kept writing and the fans kept writing in.

They need her. And she was so organic. It was so organic that it just happened. But yeah, so she is so in the news right now. And I know that I'm Carolina. You have to see Alec there. It looks like he's got a gun to the back of his head. And he's just sitting there like watching her dance.

Oh, wow. And he is there with some of the older children and he is watching her dance. And I'll watch it just for that. I mean, I love how unhappy he is. It really, it floats my spirit. He's very unhappy. Okay, so I was trying to decide between two for this last one, but I'm going to go right to the big one because I think this is fun.

And we did mention it on last week's show. It wasn't the A plus list singer that was going to be served. It was another person present at the scene. Okay. What? Carolina. Someone got served? Yeah, but it had nothing to do with like, you just got served.

That is still a classic. Yes, always a classic. It is more to do with a trial. This has to do with the Justin Baldoni Blake Lively trial. Yes. And someone was arrested on Taylor Swift's or was it Kelsey's property?

Was it her property? Was it his property? Good question. I believe that it was her property. Sorry, I'm looking it up. The blind is suggesting that it was not she who was to receive the papers. It was Travis Kelsey's home, which would make a lot more sense because it was at

Travis Kelsey's home. She was like, I'm not getting served. I'm not going to testify. They weren't giving me a subpoena, but it sounds like maybe they were trying to subpoena Travis. And wouldn't that be fun? For what? Wouldn't we love to see a deposition with Travis Kelsey? I don't really like him. I'm sorry. I don't really like Travis Kelly. I'm not sorry. This is what the show is for. You're allowed to add. No. You know what he is?

To me, he is the new Keith Urban. Wow. That's fine. That's fine. I love it. On mismatch, you're trying to be a power couple, but you're not matching your power vibes. I understand.

We're not here for your odd takes. We need this because also I actually do think Taylor could do better. Holden nearly stopped speaking to me when I said the same thing. So I did walk it back for the sake of our friendship. But you, I think that you and Holden's friendship is going to survive no matter what. I won't tell him that you said this. I'm going to march upstairs right now. I won't. I should not tell him.

You're right. Don't tell him because I will say, is it this? Oh, yeah, it is this weekend. Holden and I do have tickets to go see. Travis Kelsey? I mean, I don't know if he's going to show up. I, because I was on Jack-in and we found out that, so Taylor Swift has a new album coming out,

and she's got tickets to some sort of listening. It's a movie experience. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a listening event. or whatever. But it's a new album. We don't really understand it. It's a movie.

It's in a theater. Is it a movie? It's a music video. It's a movie. This is Me now. Jay-Lo's music video. I think it is a lot like this is me. Dot, dot, dot now.

Colin, what is it the life and love of Jennifer Lopez. It is a lot. I think it's going to be a lot like that. Okay. And I will say last week I did say, this is coming from a self-hating Swifty that I'm going to go see this,

but all the non-self-hating Swiftys were like, Jackie, don't go into it with this fucking perspective. Put a smile on your face. You know you like Taylor Swift, and that's okay. You know, it's okay to accept that I like Taylor Swift's movies, not movies. Oh, God. Yes, because apparently she has movies on albums? Movies on albums.

And I'm not here for like the Easter egg stuff. I don't care about the other. Like, she wore a necklace and I have it needed. You know, like I don't feel any of those things. I just, you know, I'm sorry. I know, I'm just a basic-ass bitch on the inside that likes, you know, a getaway car kind of song. Yeah, man. That's all.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, why not. Yeah, that's why I feel like I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift's music or like it's okay. I know why it's good. But I actually think her as a person, like the same things. I think we all relate. We're all basic bitches who just enjoy this kind of dress.

Who cares? Right. We could all love the basic bitch that lives inside us. Yes. Exactly. You're right. Exactly. Exactly. And we can see it. I can see it. Wow. Allow room for. Also, I will sort of vision.

It might not be your kind of tea music-wise, Carolina, but I will throw it out there. It wasn't my husband's cup of tea music-wise, but he did really enjoy it. We did watch K-pop Demon Hunters last week. Yes. And the music is unbelievable. That is good. Okay. So great. I didn't know if it's like, I know that you guys. I'm 2,000% on board with this. So good. It's so good. I just know that you and Marcus have like a, which I understand, you guys are having high. rubric for music. Oh, no, actually, I mean, I do like music, but I've never, I mean, I know, obviously, from No Dogs in Space, I spend many years and stuff, and liking what I like, but I don't really have that kind of knowledge. It's only like, I like what I like, and I like anything.

It could be whatever I, Carolina Adago enjoys, is that like, what's good? Or whatever. Even good shit, like, let's say Taylor Swift is good, and it is well made. But I just won't, I, I'm not going to play. That's okay. That's not a big deal. So that's, I think, the difference of it. But I also, like, Ed, for my birthday, so sweet.

Eddie gave me a record of third eye blind because he's like, I know you like a song for this. And I'm like, yes. That's so cute. And so sweet. I remember Holden made you like a pop girlie list last year. Yes. And you like chapel.

I wrote him like a two-page email about like what I'm not into, what was good for what, how many times I lived. listen to it and how I, it's, it's, I saved it in my drafts for a reason. And Amber Nelson giving me that slap pop, uh, Apple, uh, music, uh, playlist changed my life. So seriously, pop does change a lot. Yeah. Hey, hey, you can take that. You can take that.

Okay, we'll take it. We'll definitely take it. Thank you so much. Carolita. But before, you know, we're not over yet. You thought I wasn't going to have a snacky or two. Yes. Uh, you damn right.

Uh, I'm taking it back. Sorry. April hit it. I've been a snackie girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl.

Snacky. I've been a snacky. Snacky. Snacky. Is somebody going to eat those chips? Is somebody going to dip those dips? Is somebody going to try those candies? I got seminar.

They say I'm a snack lead. Okay. Now, Carolina, I had a lot of, I know that you're my chocolate bitch. Yes, I am your chocolate bitch. You're my chocolate bitch. And I just hope anyone just like Googles a photo of me. first. Yeah.

Go ahead. Now go. I'm in a chocolate fish. Because you love chocolate. Now, I, you know, I know that, obviously, it's a good thing. I didn't bring any chips because they're not your favorite potato preparation. I have a lot of chips right now. Now, this is a new flavor that, you know, it's probably like, Jackie, that's not that

big and different. But I am curious to see if there is a difference. They just started releasing. Oh, I'm excited because I hear the crunchiness. Honey roasted peanut. Eminem's. Okay, there you go. So I don't know.

Okay, so I love a peanut Eminem. Mm-hmm. Do you think that the honey-roasted part of this is going to come through? Now, I want you to try this, but I also brought a drink for you to try because I thought this was a little basic bitch. And I understand it's very early and if you don't want to drink this, you don't have to. No, why not? Get a couple of bottles of Chuckie's Punch, which is the Chuckie-themed. Fanta.

And if you would like to try the Chucky's themed, it is red and it is it's given the shirt a little bit, you know? I like it. Please hand me the Fanta. The Chucky Fanta. It's not alcoholic, isn't it?

It is not, no, no, no, it's just It's not, you know what it is? I was all of the sugar, all the soda. Anytime I can consume a soda, I only ever get the zero sugar kind. I understand that it has fake shit and I get that. But in my head, this is full sugar, so I'm like, prepare your mouth.

Because I feel like if I have a sip of a full sugar soda, I'm like, whoa. All right, we're getting into Chucky. Wow, that is a Chucky Punch. How Chucky Punch? Now, do you feel like it's like the punch of blood? Like, do you feel like, or do you feel like a small hand? Yes, I do feel like a small child taking robitussin. Ooh, okay.

It's a robertussin flavor. May I try it as well? Please do, please do. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm going to get into a little, I'm going to get into a little slip here. Remember Robitussin-Tessin, it's that that pink kind of cough syrup that the kids, your parents would just give to you no matter what happened. Oh, man, if you like Fruit Punch, if you like Hawaiian Punch, get the Chuckie's Punch.

This is Hawaiian Punch as a Fanta. That's what this is. I'm looking at the bottle. It looks cute. I like the design. I like the design. I like that the outside of it is, you know, the cover. It's like is his shirt design.

Now we're getting into the honey roasted. Carolina, what have we got to say? I'm going to say. It didn't need the honey. It did not need it. I think it didn't need it. It's just a little extra sweet. It could make you nauseous.

You can't finish the whole bag. Bro, it is just a little extra sweet. How am I going to finish this entire bag? You're so right. You're right. You're so right. You're so right because it, wow, weird. Because it doesn't taste like honey,

but it does, you can feel an extra sweetness in it that is completely unnecessary. You're so right. I do like my nuts to be crusted with sugar, honey flavor, but then they don't also need to be covered in chocolate. I can choose one or the other. I wonder if the nuts themselves have like a, I'm biting into half to see. Ness, please, we need to know because I want to know are the nuts, are they married to the honey? Wow, no, it's on top of the nut.

You can see the regular honey roasted peanut wrapped in chocolate. I personally, unpopular opinion, I think peanut Eminemes are not good. Oh, okay. Are you more of an almond or you more of a... I don't really love Eminems. And if I'm going to do an Eminem, I'm going to do either the pretzel ones or the peanut butter ones. Okay. Yes.

This obviously... I'm sorry. Yes. MJ is correct. Look at the inside of this. Yes. You actually can weirdly see the honey layer outside of the nut. You're right.

Now you can. Weird. Yeah. So it is in there. MJ is totally right about the peanut butter and totally and pretzel really good with the little bit of the saltness. I love the pretzel ones. But you're right. Eminem's overall, usually, you know, we want to put them into cupcakes or chocolate chip cookies or something.

Go for it. Some of the different ones, like I really like there's like a caramel cold brew one that are more chewy than your average Eminem's. And those I fuck with. So it's like a little caramel, a little coffee flavor in it. Okay. And that's my jams. I'll give me a shot. All right.

Just throwing that out there. Get me a cup of that and I've totally eaten it all. Give me a cup of that. Give me a cup of that. But don't worry here. MJ also is going to have their snackies. MJ, bodgie. Ooh.

Everything they taste. MJ's been it, Bodies. Ooh. Everything they snack. What is it today? Shout out to Tinderlla from our amazing page 7 and, uh, Jack and Chad, Jack and Chad. Hi, Indirlla. Hi, Indirlla. I haven't received them yet. I can't wait to get them.

Tinderella knows that we here at page seven love Buckees. We went to Buckees, the big old Texas, like roadside extravaganza when we were in Texas on tour and we absolutely adore Buckees. And Tinderella not only sent me a whole box of snacks from Buckees in Texas, but also a hat. And I am so excited. And so I'm going to have Bucky snacks for a couple of weeks now. So these are, not exactly the bodega snacks that I usually do, but everybody knows I've been trying to work my way through all the spicy snacks. You're damn right. Tinderlla sent me sizzling crackers, bold and spicy from Buckees. So, you know, you cannot recreate this unless you got a Buckees near you. You got to go to a Buckees. Have you been to a Buckees, Carolina? No, I've not been to a Buckees, but I know of Buckees.

You know of Buckees. And Buckees is quite the treat for those of y'all, Texas. I don't know if it's just Texas the Buckees. I think it's just Texas? These are great. They're like oyster crackers. And then they're just covered in like a bar spice. Did either of you guys ever go to high-fi, R-Fi in the East Village?

Yes. Yes. Yes. You know what I'm talking about. I do know what you're talking about. Best happy hour snacks in the world. They always had a mix of happy hour snacks. But I was like an Utt's party mix.

But I don't know what they, I don't know where they got. It was spicy. It had like fritos and pretzels and crackers and it was so spicy. I loved it. It was so good. And they had the best. It was a $3 well drinks. Happy Hour.

I. IP, hi-fi. It's not open anymore. Really? But the sizzling crackers from Buckees remind me exactly of the

Happy Hour snacks from hi-fi. It makes me want to have a very cheap gin and tonic right now. Well, it is early, but you know we wouldn't judge you here if you need one, MJ. Also, we were very wrong. Buckies are in Texas, Alabama,

Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia. Oh, I was so confidently wrong. I apologize. I'm so sorry, everybody. It's allowed to sell. There you go. Yeah.

You know, it's just, I guess it just creeped up there. I don't know if it's ever, something tells me that California and Buckees, I don't know if they're quite the same spirit. But if they do migrate, we will go to the first Bucky opening, Buckees opening in California. You're damn right. We will cut that ribbon. We will ride that pig. And it's not coming to California anytime soon in 2025 and 2026. It is starting in Arizona, Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio and North Carolina, but nowhere. near here.

So. Well, we're going to keep writing to them. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Please send me some jerky. Love Jackie.

Not jerky. I'll just to the southerners who had to scream in their car that we were very wrong about fucking Texas. Texans are just so proud of it. Yeah. But they should be because it's great. Because it's really, really great. And I think that it's like, how dare they?

We are the OG. And to be fair, there are a lot of locations in Texas versus the amount of locations in the other states. So Texas, don't worry, baby, you still reigns supreme. Oh, yeah. Well, thank you, Tinderella. I love these snacks. I'm so excited to eat the rest of them next week.

So, so excited. And Tinderella, I literally just received a, you just received a package at the UPS store. So maybe it's that. And I'm very, very excited about getting it. So don't worry. I'm going to be in here with some thick old bucky snack soon. But you know, I'm glad that I tried the honey roasted peanut. I've been seeing them everywhere and I really wanted to decide if it was that different.

And, you know, if you just thought maybe these peanut M&Ms could be a little bit sweeter, well, they might be your bag. Yeah. And if you love Hawaiian punch and you want it to be like it's a little hand covered in blood, get yo ass some Chuckie's punch. And I go, oh, God, it's just a doe. I shouldn't be scared. And then I think about MJ and your puppets.

And I think, well, I've been scared since the beginning of time. And I'm just going to continue doing that. Not that I'm saying that your puppets would ever do that, MJ, it just, I don't know. I'm going to bring the puppets into the frame again. I like to brandish them at you. You do like to brandish them at me. MJ does not lock up their puppets. No, no, no, no.

But also, God forbid. The puppets are always within arm's reach, Carolina. God forbid. That's a cool puppet. Hopefully a demon never goes inside. Looks like it or like the soul of an evil criminal hopefully doesn't live within them. I don't know. You have to just turn, put the off switch.

as we know from the Simpsons reference. Exactly. You just keep it off. Have you unplugged it? Oh, I haven't. Not enough. See, this is why we have Carolina on the show. Thank you so much, Carolina.

Yeah, thank you. For coming and hanging out with us. Where can we find you, Carolina? Oh, you know, Instagram, Carolina, Danger, Hidalgo, that will post stuff, no dog spot pod on on Instagram as well. And we'll start updating people pretty soon as things are moving along, but they are starting to move along. And it is fantastic.

I can't wait. And all I have to say is, you know, we're going. to just go forward and we're going to put it out where we can't. Hell yeah. That's what I love. Damn the man. Damn the men. Yes.

And my name is Jackie. Or at least seven or ten men. Yes. But go to damn some men. Damn some men and damn some other people. My name is Jackie Zabrowski and you can damn whoever the hell you want. And you can come damn them over on my Instagram at Jack That Worm. Come hang out with us over on our page 7 Patreon.

And yeah, I am zooming right into book three of the Sookie Stackhouse. novels and y'all shit is getting point up real fast over there i i didn't even ask if i should go into book three i just went right into it and i hope that you guys are enjoying your experience over on jacky's book club because i know i sure as hell am and i'm having a blast with mj watching buffy we are in season five of buffy right now and i think about it all the time i feel like my brain even though is currently here i'm actually just thinking about buffy but i think that that's what everybody goes through as they watch Buffy. I think that you kind of get lost in the world of it.

And I highly recommend Carolina. Okay. For your future. I think I'm going to jump on this. I think I need to. I think you need to. Correct. You won't regret it.

MJ? Yes, you can join us over a Patreon. We're also doing our Celebrity Memoir Book Club over there, celebrities. We just finished Joan Rivers. We're going to figure out what we're going to read next. You can email us, page 7podcast at gmail.com. We love getting your emails.

Thank you for them. And we will see you tomorrow for second helpings. Thank you so much, Carolina. Come back soon. I will. After I watch a bunch of seasons of Buffy, I will be back. Yeah. Yeah.

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