Page 7 - I Just Don't Get It w/ Kara Klenk

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

This week on Page 7 we're invitin' resdient Big Sis Kara Klenk to goss' 'bout all things dark, sad kid 90's alt rock and all them child kidnappin' PSAs, not to mention all the WAYS Fastball and her were two ships passin' in the night this past summer, then in SADDER NEWS Jackie was sittin' bitch when they drove all the way to visit their fathers headstone only to find out it was CLOSED on Mother's Day because who needs to mourn a MOM, Henry almost got kicked off the plane because his aisle seat plane buddy refused to stand and let him go to the bathroom for some unknown reason, worm man Nick Lachey said Jessica Simpson was in first class with her mom while makin' her kids and husband sit in coach with the peons, THE HORROR. John Tra has a new movie based on his children's book, AND a new hat. Nick Cannon made a gross post about spending time with HIS mother on Mother's Day because it ain't BABY MAMA'S DAY, and keeps just sayin' gross rage bait shit because that's who he is and he MUST BE STOPPED. Then we got THE LIST of "Movies That Were Literally SO LIFE THREATENING TO FILM I'm Shocked They Even Made It To The THEAAAATAAAAS", the BLINDZ feat. A SPOOKY NOISE, and then starting at @ 1:10:58.420 we got a user submitted CANADIAN JACKIE'S SNAAAAACKIES!!!! and @ 1:18:09.439 an oniony MJ's Minute Munchies all until @ 1:23:18.658, AND SO MUCH MOOOOOOOOOORE!!!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Going without ever knowing the way Anyone could see the road That they walk on is paved in gold And it's always summer They'll never get cold They'll never get hungry They'll never get old and grey And they're gonna see their shadows

Wondering on somewhere They won't make it home But they really don't care They're on the highway They're happy They'll take. Is that smash mouth or fastball? Fastball.

Fastball. Fastball. It's fastball, baby. I got to tell you, I had an opportunity to see fastball live this past summer. Whoa. This summer. This past summer, I went to go see Bar Naked Ladies.

Yes. With Sugar Ray opening. Are you kidding? And fastball opening for them in New York. Excuse me? In New York. I was at Pier 17. Oh, yeah.

And we were just getting a drink across the street and just missed fastball. We were like, well, it's fastball. You sing the way from across the way. and then you go to the rest of the concert. Yeah. So I missed it. Wow. I mean, the Waze was one of those songs that I remember I was obsessed with when I was younger.

And then when I found out what it was about, I was like, oh, my God. Oh, it's about like a missing couple that, like, the whole song is about this missing couple that was never found. It's like, they're like, they like, way without ever knowing the way. Oh, wow. They made up their minds and they started packing. They left before the sun came up that day. Oh my God, I literally just never listened to the lyrics. Is it to eternal summer slacking?

Oh my God. Where were they going without ever knowing the way? They're dead. At the end of the song, are they dead? I think, I guess. They said they wanted the highway. They're happier there today. And the outro is just like leaving it all behind.

They wanted to be on the road. So now they're buried under an underpass. And that's just what they wanted. just like a troll. They might still be alive. Also, that unlocked a memory of... What are you talking about Savannah Guthrie's mother? No.

Because I... No, I'm not talking about Savannah Guthrie's mother. I have preferred to not think about... I think about her all the time, MJ. I know, I do too, because she's always... Sad, Savannah Guthrie's always on the front pages of the celebrity newspapers. But do you guys remember the music video for Runaway Train? I was just talking about Runaway Train last night.

Really? my god, MJ, I was just talking about it with friends last night because I did live band karaoke and we were all talking about like different whatever and someone was like, what was that song about all the runaway kids? And I go, runaway train. Yeah. By soul asylum. Who I, at my second concert of all time, which was the spin doctors, soul asylum opened. Wow. And they sang runaway train. And I was in eighth grade and I was like, I feel this so deeply, all these runaway children. But my friends and I were talking. These runaway children just like them. But my friends and I were talking and we're like, those kids don't want to be found.

Nah. Like, those kids ran away because something bad was happening at home. Yeah. Most likely. It's, like, I'm sorry, in 19, like, 91, everybody wasn't as worried about, like, child trafficking and all that stuff. It was more likely that a kid was being stolen. It was more likely that a kid was like, oh, my uncle is molesting me, so I'm going to run away.

Sorry to bring it down. Well, also, though, this was the era. I was already screaming about Savannah Guthrie's mom. It was already brought down. It's the darkest page seven intro of all time. We've not said our names. We've not said our names. We've not set our names.

We've introduced ourselves. Welcome, Kara. Do you remember the book, The Girl on the Melt Carton, which was also a after school special movie? Okay, Jackie, do you remember the girl on the Melkartin? No. Because I feel like there was a lot of propaganda slash,

I don't know, if it knew public service announcements, whatever we'll call it, about missing children in the era of runaway trade. And thinking back, I'm like, why was there a whole soul asylum song about runaway children? I'm sorry, you're referring to the face on the milk carton? There was a separate book.

There was a separate book called The Girl in the Box that was literally about a girl. It was about a girl who was kidnapped and all she had in this dark cell, she couldn't see anything. All she had was a typewriter and she would just type little notes and put them underneath the door. And that was like what the book was. This is the kind of shape we were watching. This was everything we read about was you're going to get scooped up. You're going to be taken. And taken.

Yes. Or molested in your own home. Yes. It was just like you're never going to sleep in your own bed. You're never going to snuggle a teddy bear. Your life's going to be terrible forever. That's the thing. I feel like we just grew up at the time where it was like they're taking kids.

And I knew because of Renderway Train is like a, it's like a well enough written song that it is evocative of emotion. But I'm like, isn't it weird that I was like eight? and I'm just like, yeah, in my living room, feet, like, crying for a bunch of missing children. Like, it's a strange choice. It was also when the lovely bones came out. The lovely bones, when that book came out,

and I read the lovely bones, and I was just like, I'm different. I think about things differently. Between that and having a cop father, I mean, I was terrified of absolutely everything. I was just like, I will always be. And it's like, that's why part of me was like, it's good.

And this is a true confession of when I was a plus size young person. And I was like, it makes it easier for them to steal me. It makes it easier because there's more to grab. And that is actually... How it's not harder. You'd think because it would be difficult to drag me away, but then all I could think of was more to grab to drag me away. More.

Okay. Wow. Yeah. So I keep my hair short. I guess it really is all in the way you look at things. It is. Perspective. Some people are the glasses half easy to kidnap.

Yeah. And some people are... The glass is a little harder. But also high care, a clank. Welcome to the, welcome to page seven. I'm Jackie Zabrowski. I'm M.J. And yes, I'm so happy to be here again.

I'm so glad you're her. Thrilling that none of the three of us were ever taken. I did try to run away one time with my brother or my sister actually. Oh God. Like truly a stick and bindle of the most random bullshit. Really? An actual legitimate. Both of you brought an actual bindle?

I wasn't even upset. I just wanted to see if I could do it. Me too. I think that was it. And my parents were like doing. one unfair thing. And I was like, I'm out of here. This sack, this weekend. This Friday, that's when we make our move. And we had a really long driveway. We got to the end of the driveway and it was like windy. And we go, let's try again tomorrow. This feels like not the

right weather for it. And then, you know, we never tried again. So it was wind that kept you from running away. Wow. It's good to know that, you're really ready to overcome a lot of obstacles. I'm going to be honest, don't think we had a dollar on us. Don't think we were really prepared for the real world. Well, this was the parenting way in the 90s also, was, to be like, let them go. They want to run away? Yeah. Let them go. Let them go. The original Mel Robbins. Let them. Like the original Mel Robbins. I made it to the top of my hill. And then similarly, I was like, well, I guess I don't know where else to go from here.

And then I turned back. But yeah, I think it was, and I had fairly overprotective parents, but they let me. And so I think that that's also now, in 2020s parenting, if your kid runs away, I don't know if you're letting them, you know. No, you're not. I don't know let them find them. What's that podcast called that I write? It's called You're Wrong About. And they do a really great episode about child trafficking and how like, you know,

Nick Mick, which is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, like their numbers are wildly inflated. A lot of them are like foster kids that haven't checked in. And they'll be like that right now as you sleep, there's 40,000 missing kids in the U.S. It's like the numbers are wildly inflated. Like sometimes it's kids that came back, but like they haven't. read they haven't updated it with nick so it's like a i don't know it's a very interesting episode if you're interested in actual runaway child stats and stuff like that i mean we grew up in the time of moral panics you know i feel like and that's that's what and the girl who is the host of

that podcast is writing a book about the satanic panic yeah she i love i love that show she's great but i do feel like it explains perhaps why um millennial parents are so anxious because we were constantly being told that danger lurks and the apples and it it looks outside. And I've never pegged back to the way. There's crazy. In the balls. Hyperdermic gaitles in the ball.

There's a guy with puppies trying to lure you into a van. They always have puppies. How did I start a podcast about Law and Order SVU? How? You know? Why did I get so wrapped up in that show? That's why I was actually, weirdly enough, when I was listening to the way on the way over here, I was just like, oh, I wonder if they ever talked about this couple on

SVU. And I was like, Jackie, I don't think that the couple. Is it based on a real story? I think it is based on a real story. But what I do know is that it had nothing to do with the special victims unit. So I did know, I was like, why would Kara? It's like, oh, Kara must know every time a person goes missing or something happens. A regular couple of going missing, SV you wouldn't care about that.

That's what I'm saying. It's women and kids. Who cares? Who cares? That's for another. That's for another district. Man, there were lots of things that you want to just kick on down. the road and not deal with in present time. And for some of us, that is going to go visit your father's

headstone. And I am going to bring this story up because for those of you that don't follow me on Instagram, I don't know why the hell you don't go follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. Because I put a bunch of, you know, I got great snackies pictures up there. Where's that name come from? I never asked you. Yeah. I, uh, because it's like jerking off a dick. Got it. Yep. Because I am not that. I'm not That, you know, I thought I was going to be like, they used to call me the worm in high school. No. Blah, blah, blah. But no, I used to be the hammer, though.

Jack that worm. Well, my dating profile name used to be the hammer gets it because my name used to be the hammer. And I will tell you one thing. The hammer, it used to get it. Is it because when you're a hammer, everything looks like you want to nail it? Nail it. Yeah, man, everything's a nail. And that's what I'm going.

You know, it was a different time period. I think it's great. we were really told that like it's not scary if it's coming from a woman but now we realize that no that's also it also can be intimidating and too much but i needed to bring this up because i posted about it on my instagram and i got a bunch of feedback from people on it and i just thought it was so funny that i wanted to share that my brother and i went it was the year anniversary of my father's passing and we wanted to go see we hadn't been able to see the headstone yet so we were going to go see it as the family.

So we all shove into the car. I'm shoved into the backseat, which when was it last time? You were sitting, bitch, in a back seat. I was between my brother and my niece, my full-grown adult niece, and I'm shoved in the center of it because, quote, I'm the shortest, so I was supposed to be in the center. Glad to see the rules from high school still apply. Still apply.

Who was in the front? My sister was in the front and my mom was driving. So it was the three of us in the back. where it's like, we could have taken two cars. We have more than one car. We have access to vehicles. And we shoved it and we're like, Henry and I are literally,

our arms were touching the entire time. And we are, I am 38 years old. And the entire time, we're just like, oh, I hate that he's touching me. I hate that he's touching me.

Like we just were yelling that. And Henry just at one point was screaming, her flesh, her flesh is on my flesh. And just like, because we are that annoying to our mother. Oh my God. And she is weirdly.

It's not that she's patient. she just really has learned how to tune us out really properly. So we drive almost two hours to get to the cemetery. We show up and the cemetery is closed. It is a Sunday. I didn't even know that cemeteries could close. It was Mother's Day. And again, people are like, oh, I'm going to see your father, Moses.

Yeah, well, it happened to be the death anniversary. And I do finally also think that it is funny for my father somewhere that, you know, we're celebrating every father, every mother. Day that now he did celebrate. It's all about him, which I think is kind of funny. But I also think my father would have thought that it was funny when we showed up.

And I didn't think you had to call a cemetery first to find out if they were going to be open on Mother's Day. Who do you call? They all had like old-timey gates that lock with like a big cartoonishly. It was cartusely locked like and it was out front. Like my mom is like, we like parked and my mom's like, do we try to hop the fence?

We're not going to hop the fence into the cemetery mom. Cemetery feel like it's like a small crumbling stone wall that you could just step over into the cemetery. You know, this big, huge fence. And now I, and so, I've received so much feedback from people that were just like, I can't believe a cemetery can close. Now, I have found out. But also on Mother's Day when people are probably going to visit their dead mothers. How many dead mothers didn't get visited because they decided to, whoever opens up the cemetery

overslept that day or whatever. Right. A lot of ghosts are like, nice of you to not show up today. Reinger's day. Not even a flower on the headstone? Very interesting. Now, it is a veteran's cemetery. So some people have said that as like making it like Mother's Day as a holiday,

so it's possible that it was close to them. But then we looked into it. Mother's Day is not like a bank holiday. It's always on a Sunday. We looked into it. This cemetery is closed every weekend. What? And then I was like, Mom, did you know before we put dad into this fucking cemetery that we literally

can never visit him? What the fuck? You have to take a day off work. Oh my God, Jackie. It's also like, was your mom expected to check the business hours on Google? I didn't know. She chose a cemetery. Right?

For our veterans, we can't open it on a weekend. Right? Are there not veteran mothers that also would love to be celebrated? That weirdly sounds like it's like a staffing issue. Something. Of course, like they don't have people that they can pay. Like they don't have the funds to like pay people overtime to like open and close it or whatever. Did I blame Florida and the curse of the existence of Florida?

Yes, I did. And fairly so. Yeah, I think that's fun. Yeah, you got to blame someone. Yeah. When your arm is touching your brother's arm to enough that it was forming like a sheen of sweat between us. And it was the moisture of the skin to skin contact between a brother. Ew.

And then I just kept feeling how hairy he is. and then the moist and how very he is. Okay, wait, I'm looking up a very famous cemetery in L.A. just to see if the hours are on Google. Like our old cemetery is like this. Forest lawn. All right. I'll look up Greenwood.

Greenwood cemetery. You know, they're open 8 to 6, but they're open seven days a week. That's the thing. You should have some weekend hours if you're a say. And I didn't know I had to say this. And I didn't know that this was something that needed to be talked about, but I'm just letting you all know. But also, your mom lives in Florida.

Yeah. Has she gone to the grave since? No. Alone? No. She won't go alone. She was waiting for us all to go see it together. Yeah.

Which I understand. I understand. I was just wondering if she had done a little visit. No, she had it. And so that's what, that's what, and it was like on Mother's Day. So, and it was just one of those where it was just such. But it is. It's so.

It's so. Bann. It is. And it was after already, like a cartoonishly, like, Henry almost got like, like kicked off the plane because the guy that was sitting in the aisle of his, like of where he was sitting wouldn't let him get up to go to the bathroom. He refused. He refused to stand.

And Henry's like, at one point, essentially he's like, he first thought he was joking. And then he was like, hey, get. And he's just like, he looks him in the eyes. It was like, you can crawl over me if you want to. I'm not getting up. Wow. And I was just like, Henry, what did you? especially because Henry and I are both such hot.

Like we can be hot heads. And I was just like, how did you not explode into steam? He's like, we were in the air and I didn't want to make an actual issue. And so what ended up happening is wrong with this person? Right? I'm like, is Henry should have just called the flight? Did he call the flight attendant? So he had asked the flight attendant and then the flight attendant came over and the flight attendant said like, and he was like, you have to move like for him to use the restroom.

and he like was being very like he was getting it like making it be bigger and bigger. And so the, they just wanted him to calm down. So they were going to move him. The man was? The man was. What was he saying? Just say that he doesn't have to not get up.

I guess I guess he just didn't have to get up. So then like the flight dead walked away and Henry really had to go to the bathroom. So he gets up and he's like, okay. And then like not. Yeah, you want Henry. You're like hairy butt crack in your face? He's like, you want this? But then that's when the flight attendant came over had to physically, like, move the man because he was being such a problem.

Wow. This is. People should not be allowed on flights, these people. I should literally get punished. Like, you should, if you do something like that on a flight, you should get like a six-month no-fly punishment. You're not allowed to fly. Or, like, whatever. Just you cannot fly.

And the worst of infraction, the longer the punishment lasts. I love this. Yeah, this is what, Natasha Leon, just. just did a bad, she was just on a bunch of drugs on the plane. She's taking a bunch of sleeping bills and was definitely like not, which... Yeah, so for her she gets like two weeks. Yeah. Sleep it off.

You know what I mean? She gets like two weeks. You don't let someone go to... You clip your toenails on the airplane a year off. A year. You're not allowed to fly. Yeah. Yes.

You know? Wow. Yeah. At that point, I'm just wondering like maybe did the guy like sit on a brownie or something earlier in the day and he was too embarrassed to stand up. You know, did he have his period? Something. I'm thinking, why do you not?

what it is. Maybe that's what it is. I would have loved it. Henry's like, what are you on you? Period. I would have loved it. Henry's not the kind of man

that would ever say something like that, but I would love it for him to say it to this old man. If you're on the aisle, you could actually just move your legs into the aisle and let somebody walk by you. You don't even truly need to stand up.

You can just maneuver your body. Wow. 45 degrees. And so we just blame Florida. Like we just are really, you know, of course that person was heading home to Florida. That's, You know, you know that they're not an Angelino, you know.

But what about, but what about Jessica Simpson is flying first class? Thank you. Okay, tell me about this. Because I keep getting snatches of this in my Instagram and stuff where I'm like, what happened with them? And I haven't read it. I think the most important thing to know about the story is actually that it is coming from Nick Lichet, who is a weasel man when it comes to Jessica Simpson specifically,

which I learned thanks to your wrong about to deep dive into Jessica. Simpson's memoir. So this is coming from Nick Lachey telling. This is a full circle. It's a full circle. He tells the story. And I just think it's important to note that because he's not a trustworthy source. But he's on watch what happens live. And he says that years ago, he was on a plane with Jessica Simpson. And at the time she was still married to her husband, they're now separated. But he's on the plane. Eric shit bag is what we'll call him. Oh, not Tony Roe. Wasn't she married to Tony Roma? Not that one. Not that guy. It's a different guy. Eric Johnson. Eric Johnson. He's a Balman. And so Nick Lachey notices that Jessica Simpson is in first class and does not have her children

or her husband with her. She's just living her best life in first class. And the kids are in... She was with her mom in first class. That's right. I was like she wasn't even alone, but she wasn't with her family. And her three children and the husband were sitting in coach. And that is... And Nick Lachie has set the world on fire. Can we please give it a ball? Guffa. Gapha. To the max. I mean, like, men do this all the time.

Yeah, and also, the thing is that people, anyone that's going to say things, like, the kids were back there with their father. They're fine. Yeah. Maybe the trip was booked, and her tickets were paid for. And then she was like, I want the kids to come. And there was nothing else left in first. And so they threw them into coach, and that's it. Also, they don't need a first class seat.

They're little. They have enough spit. Oh, my God. It's all that stuff. It's such a waste. see like a toddler in one of those like especially like lay down first class one time we got a flight canceled me and rosy and she was like four i thought you meant you got it canceled because of this i was like what why we went through a massive we made it rain at the airport yeah rosy it was it was canceled

and when i got on with delta they were like we have another flight we could put you on it's in delta one and I was like, I mean, okay. I have like the lowest status on Delta, like silver at the time, whatever, right? And we get into Delta One and the whole time I wanted to put a sign on her that was like, I didn't pay for this seat. This is an upgrade. Like, because I didn't want anyone to think I spent $3,000 for my kid who can't eat. She didn't even use the lie down.

Yeah. I go, honey, you know, you can lie your chair all their back. She goes, no, I don't like that. The whole seat. She's four years old. The whole seat is a lie down for her, you know? Yeah. So I absolutely know what you mean.

Like I would never. I would never. I could be so rich I'm not putting my kids in first. Never. I think this has actually come up with the baldwins as well because there are so many of them that I don't think they actually all fit in first class. Excuse me. Please refer to them as Baldwinitos. The Baldwinitos.

Thank you. Yeah. You're being culturally insensitive. Oh, God. Oh, please. Erasing their identity. Por favor, MJ. Por favor.

I think arguably, the only person here who has the right to complain is maybe Jessica Simpsons husband. But also, no, just do it. Sorry. Sometimes the dad has to do the hard thing and you have to sit and coach. I just flew home and I got upgraded to comfort and I was like, just you take it. I'll be with the kids because I knew they would just come bother me the whole time anyway and it would be like him texting me going, they're being relentless. And so we actually had a quiet. He got to watch. He had a nice old time. They fell asleep on me. They watched movies. Isn't that so nice. Yeah. You know, he can't handle it. Yeah. Sometimes you split up. Yeah. Yeah. And it's all good. Give them to Eric, whoever you are.

But it's like, what was Nick Lachey's purpose of telling that story? Being a little bitch. Yeah, being a little bitch. He is insane. You know what? Your face is so frozen. I feel like you can't see your own past memories that you could share. Is that what it is?

Yeah. Yeah, that didn't make any sense. But I said it. And I'll never unsay it. Did Jessica Simpson have to, like, answer to that? Like, did she come out with her side? Like, were there, you know, was there like, Jessica responds to accusations that four years ago?

she flew with her kids and coach. I think that she correctly assessed the situation as one that she did not need to weigh in on. Yeah. So that's, and that's a good for her. Yeah, I don't think that she has responded. Yeah, fuck, keep your, keep your ex's name out of your mouth, Nicolet. It's not your business. Right.

Shut up, okay? Go be with your, you know what? It's like, you're already, like, your whole thing was, oh, Vanessa and I host these love shows together. Now y'all don't even host those together anymore. It seems like you can barely even be in the same room is what it, I would assume, if you're married to a Nick Glacay. Yeah, I said it. And I will say another thing. And that is, wow, what Jontra was given in that hat. Yeah.

I have never so quickly. I have to, I think that I need to, I need to ask Henry if I can post the conversation Henry and I had with each other because, Kara, did you see the hat? No. Oh, is genre. So we've been talking about Jean-Rivolt. Wait, was this in the links you sent me? Oh, yeah. Oh, I must have to skipped over it.

Just, just Google John Travolta and you'll see it. Because it's everywhere. He's with the hat. The hat, the hat. Whatever. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, this hat. This weird little backwards beret.

Back when we started page 7 and around 2010, Kara, so Jean-Tra was in the news a lot, specifically in the blinds a lot because he was getting a lot of massages on planes from young men. He's also actively banging his co-pilot that everybody knew that he was banging his co-pilot. And so we were always, we would have our chantra and we would sing John Trauma. And so we are like low and high key obsessed with John Travolta. And now he's out with this movie that Adam says doesn't look very good. Wow, the trailer looks rough.

That's what he's at can for? Written directed by John Travolta. It is about the children's book that he wrote about him being a boy that loves planes. Dude, sorry. He has it in multiple colors. The hat? Yeah. When I'm looking, he has it in black and white.

He's a good, good guy, bad guy, you know. You gotta have your bases cover. He's a bad guy. And is he just like totally bald and like ashamed of it? I think that's it. And also it's the facial hair as well as the hat, Jackie. It's not just the hat. pout. It's the, he's given pout. Like, I feel like he thinks he looks so sexy in this hat, which you know what? I guess go for him. If you're feeling yourself, it's just, you're right with the facial hair and the like smize he's doing. And I'm just like, John, but this does come up to the reason why I brought up Henry is because this is Henry's year of advanced hats. And I don't know if you guys remember this, but I did buy Henry more advanced hats for his birthday. And he's been wearing these advanced hats.

And I took this picture of, of Jontra. And I was like, Henry, you got to step up your fucking game, son. That's an advanced hat. And we're talking about the very white, large wool beret that he's wearing now. It's the type of beret you'll find in a children's theater costume closet. He looks like he followed the pickup artists, like, closely. Remember when they said to put a hat on it? Remember when one, like, in the, like, in the,

the pickup artist, one of these sections of it was just like, put a hat on. What was the guy's name again? Wasn't it like mainstream? What his name was? It's not Chris Angel. Even though I'm sorry, Chris Angel.

The guy that was the pickup artist. Mystery. Mystery. Mystery. Mystery. Mystery. Wait, but has he had facial work done because he does look pretty young?

Jondra? He's got something. In the photos that I'm looking at, he looks like he's had some work. He looks pretty young for how old he is. I think something's going on with his face. I think it's, I think it's fair to say something was going on with his. Yeah. I mean, look at pictures of him. He's 72 years old. Wow. He doesn't look 72 years old. He looks like a 32 year

old that's making bad fashion choices. He doesn't look 72. He kind of looks like he saw a picture of bad bunny and was like, I can put this off. Oh my God. That's so funny, Tara. You know what I mean? Because like I feel like he's doing, you're right. Oh my God. Looks like he's doing a little bit of like a bad bunny cosplay and even the way he's posing photos and shit. I think he's like this guy is hot. This guy is the moment. Like he saw the fucking Super Bowl show.

And he's like, I could do that. He got activated and probably got a bit of a semi as well. Oh yeah. A bit? Yeah. A bit. Who among us? Right? Yeah. But definitely yeah. Yeah. He's got to, he's trying to do some kind

of Benito cosplay. I mean, listen, if you are 72 and you want to segue into like your look is distinguished older gentlemen. I actually don't think that this is the worst move. Like I think that it works for, he's wearing all black and some of them and he's wearing he's like kind of looks like a mime. What's wrong, Jackie? This is worse. I think it might, I think it might be worse. At first it was like, wow, jaunty berets. He's going through his beret face. Y'all know here I've had many a fashion phase. Sure. But no, he came out with the reason because everyone is talking about these hats so much. And he said,

The reason why he started wearing these hats, he said, I'm a director this time. You're an actor, so you play the part of a director, like an old school director. So I looked up pictures from the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, genre. And the old school directors wore berets and the glasses. And I thought, that's what I'm doing. I'm doing an homage to being a director. so I'm going to play the part of being a director. Wait a minute.

This might play perfectly into the theory of when you become famous, you stop aging emotionally. Wasn't he like 17 when he got in? What else do you think about it? In like disco or Saturday Night Fever? Was he like 17, 18? Yes, he's very young and also not to be like this. And I don't know however much of a beard their love was,

but like it did seem like in some science. Scientologist way he did love Kelly Preston. And losing, I imagine also losing, you know, just losing the mother of your children has got to be very, you know, untethering. And a child. He lost his son to. Well, to Scientology. I'm going to say to Scientology, he lost his son. Yes.

Weird. Yeah, this is the thing. Back in 2010 was when we talked about him all the time. And I'm over here in my head thinking, what happened since 2010? And yeah, it was a series of just kind of increasingly, like it went from. being kind of fun to make fun of him to us, I think, deciding like, you know what, this man needs some space. Like, yeah.

Yeah, it was like, obviously devastating for him to lose his son and then lose his wife. And now I think he's, I think he's debuting himself again as a character that he saw from Google Imaging. What does a director look like? What does a director look like? I mean, it's literally like, well, I'm going to Paris, so I obviously need a frustrated shirt and a red kerchief around my next. That's what I was like, that man is wearing a chappo.

You know he's not calling it his hat. Oh, yeah. Like, right? If he's in con, like, you know that it's like, oh, me and my chapeau will be there at six. Okay, wait. So, MJ, you remember there's a big comedy festival in Canada? You know about it, too, Jackie. But I'm sure MJ auditioned for it back in the day, as did I.

And there was a guy that would run those auditions who was a big hat guy, Fedoras, like whatever. So I met a comedy festival one time that's like a comedy competition in another city. and we're all going to this club afterwards for like late night. It's a bar, but it has a bunch of different rooms or whatever. Okay. And it's one of these places that they make you check your hat. And I walked in with him and...

Make you check your hat? They just are like, yeah, you got to check your hat. You got to, I don't know. There's like no hats. I think they're trying to be... They're like a no-do rags like kind of place or whatever. And they, and I go, are you going to come in? He goes, give me a second.

And he goes, you go ahead. Because I go, I could put your hat in my purse. I had a huge purse. I was like, I could put it in my purse. And he was like, no, no, no. And then he never came in. Yeah, don't separate me from my hat. So I'm wondering if there's any hat checks in can.

And if John Tra is like, I'd actually rather not attend the party. I know. I know this isn't a video podcast yet. But I have a bit of a history of being a hat guy myself. And I have several very nice hats. And I'm showing. I'm not going to take a picture. You better put that fucking hat on, MJ.

You better put that fucking hat on. This is my... Take off the headphones. You put that on. This is my... Take off the headphones. You literally look like, um, uh, what's his name from Mary Poppins when they're in the barbershopper shop quartet in Mary Poppins?

Dick Van Day? Yeah. Yeah. It's, I love my hat. And if they try to, they can fucking pry it out of my cold dead hands, the thing I'm saying. It's a dolly holiday with Mary. That number, remember? Yeah.

I don't. They're all wearing red striped. You know, I don't know Mary Poppins? I don't know, you know, I don't know Mary Poppins. I don't know the ones with all the kids and the Nazis. Sound of music. I actually think that's kind of a fun hat. It's just, it's so stiff.

It's tough. You couldn't put it in your purse, you know. I like a little straw hat. It's, yeah, you would not want me to put that in my purse. For the listening audience, it's what is called a tambourine man, yeah. It's called the boater in the hat world. and it's my favorite. Because you throw it off the boat

and you never see it ever again. And then it's called a floater. And so then it's, it's just better out there. You look great in the hat. And also if you want to see a picture of MJ in the hat, I am going to post it. I'll post it on Jack That Worm and also on the last pod network. I'm just saying sometimes you don't separate a man from his hat, okay?

And I'm not trying to be a genre apologist here. Because I think genre's hat looks stupid. but I'm not anti-Nice hat. If you ever been into a nice hat store, it's so much fun. One time I went into a nice hat store with Gideon, and somebody working at the nice hat store was a page 7 fan. Whoa. So, you know, you never know who you'll find in a nice hat store, is all I said.

There's a nice hat store near my house that's by appointment only. Yeah. I've never been in. I've never been in because I've never been able to make an appointment. No. I just can't imagine a hat that I need so bad that I make the appointment for. Like, I'm just not a hat person. You're like, I got to go, I got to get my colonoscopy.

I got to make my appointment for my therapist. I got to get in at the hat store. Head measured. Like, I know that I, I know people do get their head measured. I say that like that that's not what happens when you, I guess, go to your hat appointment. I measured my own head and it's huge. I mean, I'm not real. I just look at it and go, I have a big head.

That's big. Yeah, no, and I got a little one. Excel. Yeah, we all, but together we make one regular size head. You do have a little head. I have a little head. That's what you should have seen when I had shorter hair and people were like, why are you ever going to go back to the really short hair and just makes my head look littler?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I got to have big hair. Actually, on my Google, I have an old picture of you from like girls or roommates time. How little's that head? Now that I'm thinking about it. Now you're thinking about how little that head is. That's like Beetlejuice waiting room little. Oh, it's a little head.

I got a little head on there. Especially I got a big old body. And the problem is that my, which is like my mom always just say, but you're always beautiful in the face. because it's like I never, my face never changed shape no matter what my body. So also as in any larger bodies, that it would just make my head look even smaller, you know? Boomer mother compliments. That's a trauma. That's a trauma, you know, and that's a thing.

You just throw in there every once in a while. But yeah, but it's because. Beautiful face, though. Beautiful face. And at least I have that. Yeah. And sometimes you just got to, you got to change. The face card never declines.

Yes. Thank you, Ben. But, man, Jontra is really giving it. And it is funny because Henry is out here trying to find where he got the hat. He wants a Jontra. And I was like, oh, a beret is what you need. It's just a beret, Henry. Also, you can get any beret.

Any beret. I don't know if page 7 is pro-white lotus, but the new season of White Lotus, the new season of White Lotus is at Cannes. And do you think Jontra's beret will make an appearance? Oh, my gosh. They have to get a step. white, he feels like he knows what's up. Oh, yes. You got a snap.

Just a passing shot of John Travolta and a minute of it. It would honestly be better to like never comment it just do a shot and a montage of like celebrities. Yeah. And just a lingering shot on him. That's all we need. With a beret. Please. Yeah. At this point he's transitioned to just a celebrity where he's just

a decoration. He comes out every so often and we have a laugh and that we don't engage further, you know, and that's, I don't think we're watching the movie, right, Jackie? No, I watched the trailer and that was enough. I did want to say, I know that we've got to move on to, wow, the list that I didn't choose. So we're going to figure that out in the next couple of minutes here because I forgot to do it after 10 years, 15 years of doing the show. So I'm going to find one of those, but I did want to at least bring up the fact that it's Mother's Day, not Baby Mama's Day, because I laughed about this for,

many minutes, especially when we were in the car trying to see my father's headstone because Nick Cannon, every, you know, we love to talk about his, the spreading of his seed and we loved, and we say this, not because of the children, we say it because that's how Nick Cannon talks about it. And he posted on Mother's Day that he was spending time with his mother because he said, quote, I'm spending time with my mother. It's Mother's Day. It's not baby mama's day. What a piece of shit. And he has how many baby mamas?

I think five or six. Oh, yeah. He's got quite a few. And it is, I just think it's such a, wow. A choice of what to say. I don't know. I was just told some information over the weekend from a friend of mine. Dish, dish.

Who is related to one of his baby mamas. Oh. Dish, dish. And I was like, wait, because like her husband goes, well, you know our connection to Nick Cannon, right? And I go, remind me. I was like, yes, it's in there somewhere. She goes, well, Blank's cousin is married to, not as married, is one of the baby mamas.

And I was, Ed, I was like, how many, and they have three kids and the names are so insane. And she said that they are getting a reality show. I'm, that there's a reality show, Netflix, I think, is doing a reality show on Nick Cannon and all his baby mommas. He's angling for it. Because he also, I I don't know if that was like information I wasn't supposed to say, but like I don't think anyone's scooping anything from me saying it on page six. He's doing a lot of media.

And he was in, last week he went viral because of this extremely stupid podcast where he was like, you know, his oldest kids are the ones he have with Mariah Carey are twins, boy and a girl. And he's saying that the boy. The twins. I called them the twins forever. The twins.

I was like, if you don't know who I'm talking about. The twins. They're the twins. And so boy, I think they're both 15, and boy is dating. And he said, girl is not allowed to date. And, you know, it was obviously like rage baiting. The people on the podcast are like, that's not fair. What do you mean?

Wait, the boy is dating, but the girl's not allowed to date. Rock is dating. And Ro is not dating. And he's, you know, and it's like completely typical, like, you know, well, a man puts his hands on my daughter. I'm going to jail. Well, that definitely sounds like it's. coming out of the same brain as someone who thinks that life is about spreading your seed.

Right. You know what I mean? Like if that's your top priority, you're also like saying that your girls have different standards than your boys. But it's like I feel like I remember years ago when very tragically one of his kids died when they were a baby and he like went on his show, his stupid talk show or whatever like the next day to talk about it. I remember Jackie and Holden and I at the time were like, I actually feel for this, of course, him grieving a child.

But like this behavior is so creepy. to come and then just keep doing your show and just kind of talk about it for like what seemed like for clicks. And now I feel like in the years past it's gone from like, oh, that's weird celebrity behavior to like this is actually like very sinister. And I. Oh, yeah, no, he's very scary. He's like, it's escalating. And now I feel like, yeah, he just wants to rage bait and he just wants to like say these misogynistic things all the time. And it's just like I, I, we got to figure out how to see.

He has to be stopped. Nick Cannon's got to be stopped. Yeah, but the people that love Nick Cannon love that he does it. I mean, who are Nick Cannon fans? Obviously, there's enough of a be. I mean, you say that, but look at other things that are being that are happening in this world.

Like, who's for this? Who's for this? I mean, I think there's also like people that, that like have fans and people that are just like accepted to be famous. Like, do you think people are like, I'm a Ryan Sechrest fan? Do you know what I mean?

It's just that Wilden Out was so huge though. Wilden Out. I feel like it's really like, Such a perfect thing. And now he's just such a host, though. Right. He's like America's got talent and like what mass singer. So like now he's just a host.

It's like I don't think. But I think that's why people like the every person is like, I love Nick Cannon. If they don't know anything else about him. If you don't stop and think about it too hard. Yeah. I think also Carrie, you're right. There is a news article about how he's getting a Netflix show. Okay, good.

So I didn't spill anything on here. Okay. I think, yeah, I think my question is just watching him, like, like recently, maybe more than usual, or maybe it's always been this way, leaning more into the, like, rage bait misogyny. I'm like, is he trying, like, who is his audience, like, more in the level of, like, you know, the creep, like the men who, who are bad on the internet? Or is it just, like, yeah, because to me, his audience is just like people, I don't know who saw a drumline 20 years ago and are fine with Nick Cannon. I don't think, I don't know if he has a bass. But now I'm like, is he trying to build a base by saying all this annoying patriarchal shit, you know? Because also the names of these kids are out of control.

They really, it really is. It's all over the place. And I also, I feel. He has 12 and I think the last one was born in 2022. So maybe he's done. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think that he's done. No, I don't think that he's done.

Oh, my God, you guys, one, two, three, four, five of them were born in 2022. Yeah. And from four different women. Big year. Big year. Big year. Big, big, big year. Big year. I just so get it. It's just, that's why, I think it's also a lot of fan base that have been fans of him for since forever. That have just never fallen off the bandwagon. But doesn't this just feel like cult leader behavior? Like, you're not just like, well, I keep meeting women that I love and I want to have babies with them. You're cheating on them. You're going back to them. You're, you know, you're impregnating them.

He has, he has said that he thinks he's a Messiah. I think. Oh, he has. has. I was going to say, it's like next step, it's branding on the vaginas. Yeah, no, he has a whole, it's a whole weird thing. But again, he's always, he's such a, like, Celess celebrity that has always just been kind of like a whatever. But it's just weird to see him doing these media hits like more and more now. I'm like, why are we, why, why? Why are you still having this platform, you know? And it's like, rock and row, because we're talking about it. Rock and row have Mariah's money. Like, who cares? Oh, yeah, they're going to be fine. But like the other 10 kids, like that's not like a small thing to keep 10 kids in a lifestyle to which they've become accustomed or whatever.

Right. And and especially when when they're popping them out that fast. Like he is rich, but like 10 kids to private school, 10 kids to college, 10 kids at the on help, like the doctor, all this stuff. I don't know. That's like a lot of fucking money. Yeah. I mean, you know, that's why the Baldwinitos struggle. And like that's why like we're not thinking enough about the Baldwinitos right now. That's right. I mean, and the baldwinitos, there's a lot. I mean, and the baldwinitos are. only seven, right? And it's all in one place. It's got to be cheaper if they're all in one spot rather than having to keep them all over in place. But anyway, I know way too much.

No, I just know way too much about those fucking kids because I still follow Hilaria on Instagram. And she just she'll post pictures of them with their fucking camp shirts on, identifying what camps they go to. Hilaria, please practice some internet safety. Oh, that's so stupid. Yeah. I literally had a thing where every time I went on Reddit, which is not that often, I'm not subscribed to this subreddit, but the first thing it would show me was that Hilaria Baldwin subreddit where they just rip on her. It's fun. And I would just like, read, and at first I was like, this is fun.

And then I was like, wait, these people are like a little unhinged. They're crazy. Sometimes she does nothing. And they're like, look at this dumb bitch. Take your kids away, CPS. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. She is a dumb bitch. Don't get me wrong.

But calm down a little bit. But even at the same time, I brought up the poodle man a couple of weeks ago, and I was talking about the poodle man because I was being... Kianis. I was going... It's not that I was being sought after, but I was playing Scrabble with a stranger and this picture popped up of who he was. And he was being embraced by this poodle and he had this weird hat on. And even when I posted the picture of the poodle man, I even covered the poodle man's face because I felt bad because still, this is just a stranger I don't know. And I'm not actually trying to put him on glass.

But I wanted everyone to see the embrace of the poodle as well as the tartan scarf and the hat. Makes sense. So it is over on the page 7 Patreon if you want to check it out. But I covered his face. Even then, because it's like have at least a little bit of respect. I even have respect for the poodle man. Yeah. Yeah.

You have more respect for poodle man's privacy that Hilaria has for her own seven children. For her own children. And you know, remember that when we're all watching the next season of the Baldwin's, because it's going to start at some point and we're going to watch it. Also, MJ, coming down the pipeline, dancing with the stars is going to be coming back soon. And, wait, Kara, I forget,

I'm sorry, this is so embarrassing. Are you a Love Islander? No. Remember, I don't do fuck life? That's right. And also, over the summer, you're too busy to keep up every day. I just don't do fuck life. I don't really care about romance. Gotcha. In terms of...

Oh, there's no romance. Well, you know, like fuck life. Fuck life, yeah, yeah. But the islanders are coming back to the villa soon. and I, that's when my summer begins. If I was going to watch it, I think I would watch the British one because I like the way that they're all like, are you gang in McCone?

Oh, you know, I don't know what they're all. Yeah, I like those little phrases, but I don't think I would watch the American one. Snoggin. Yeah. Banta, we got good banta. Remember? June 1st.

June 1st. And also, I do. And is it on every day here? Yes. And I will say, oh, no, that's Love Island, UK is June 1st, which maybe that we do need to get into. And I do want to throw it out there just for everybody that I do agree with you that really Love Island probably should be banished. There probably should be a lot more rules.

There probably should get a lot more help. But until that happens, I'm going to watch it. So I'm part of the problem. And, you know, if you guys don't want to be a part of the problem, I understand I'll still talk about it every week. Don't worry. I got you covered. But now it's time for the list. Who's on the list?

Jackie, got to have that list. Movies that were literally so life-threatening to film. I'm shocked they even made it to the fiddhauls. And now a lot of these ones we know about, but there were a couple on here that I was not aware of. We remember Wizard of Oz, bad for him. Bad for the wicked witch because she was suffering burns to her hands and face when a stunt went wrong.

She was also like very, very, I think either allergic or greatly affected, buy the green makeup and it was really bad for him. Oh, I think that was the tin man. Well, the tin man. Also, he had to leave nine days into filming after having a severe reaction to the toxic aluminum dust used in his makeup. Jesus Christ. He was treated in an oxygen tent in a hospital for two weeks afterwards.

Jack Haley, who replaced him, didn't escape injury himself. His eye became infected because of the tin man makeup. Maybe it's because it was filled with metal. But, you know, how else are we supposed to make a metal? Childhood classic, what can I say? Meanwhile, the cast had asbestos dumped on them to represent fake snow in the poppy scene. Then there's the extreme pressure Judy Garland was put under, especially regarding her looks at just 15. She was placed on a diet of chicken soup, black coffee, cigarettes, and pills, which I mean, what 15-year-old doesn't doorkly for that.

Dorothy Gales ripping a butt and chugging a coffee? Oh, my God. I just can't. It's just, she's got to get through it. I just got to get the Munchand. I don't wait for me, Toto. I'm allergic. I did just start Liza Minnelli's memoir, and I was.

will report back. But yeah, I think she's going to have a lot to say about old Judy Garland and what she went through. I'm pretty sure they had, I'm going to guess, an interesting relationship. But also, we know that it was an absolute disaster. If you know anything about Titanic, you know that the shooting of Titanic was a Titanic disaster. Multiple 20-hour days, Kate Winslet described it as an ordeal and actually nearly drowned. She also ended up covered in bruises.

a bone in her elbow and developed hypothermia and the flu. And of course, are they not even going to bring up all the L.S? No, the PCP, yes. Another time while filming the present day scenes, someone spiked the cast and crews lunch with PCP. And they all ended up in the hospital. Did you not know this, Kara? I have never heard that in my elias.

Oh, dude. What? Wild. Yeah, this has come up a couple of times. Who's given away their PCP? Right? Right. Why would you do that?

And no one knew what had happened. So everybody, there was just like a mass, you know, not a mass casualty event, but like a mass drug mania event on set that nobody understood why it was happening. Yeah. Titanic got more. Wait, so I wonder like the first person that started to show symptoms. Right. They were like, what the hell is going on with Frank?

And then it just started like an epic, that must have been wild. It was in the chowder. It was in the chowder? Yeah. For real? Yeah. It was in the chowder. You know I would have gotten dosed.

I love clamble. chowder. Oh my God, which one's your favorite? New England. Oh, yes. I'm New England. I'm a New England. I'm a chowder like any chowder. I do love, uh, I love a New England clam chowder, but I'm not a Manhattan clam chowder, but I'm not a Manhattan clam chowder. All the tomatoes gives me Agaida. Because that's the difference, MJ. Manhattan clam chowder is the tomato one. I know. Wait, what do you mean the tomato gives you adjada? Oh, because it's all tomato base and it gives me, it gives me like bad heartburn. Oh, heartburn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all the acid reflux.

Yes. It's so good. I've had to cut back on red wine. I haven't, but I'm supposed to. But I've been thinking about it. You know, talking about it. Yes. I mean, sometimes you can't just make these decisions overnight.

Yeah, I just have tums by my bed now. And I get those chewable ones. They're good. They're good. Especially, oh my God, during Christmas time, if you like the mints, if you ever like mince stuff, I always stock up on the chewable peppermint tums because I like those tastes better. And I feel like it helps. don't like the fruity ones, but I like the, but they only have the minty ones during the holidays.

Isn't that crazy? That is such a crazy thing. Is everyone asleep? Wake up. Wake up everyone. That's so funny to be like, you did. You need to seasonally treat your acid reflux. Yes.

With mint. With mint. But you don't get to do that in March. I'm sorry. No, sorry. That's why you have to, you stock up on that. That is nuts. Snowdrop every, you know, every.

Like it's supposed to be a medication. It should not have, it's not the shamrock shake. I know. That's crazy. But if like, what's his name, Mick Grimmis? But if McGrimmis were trying to shove, I don't know, whatever pills he makes out of his gullet down my throat, I guess I'd say yes. Who's Mick Grimmis? The Shamrock Shake, like, purveyors.

Oh, he's Mick. Oh, my God. Sorry, I did not get it. It's okay. Pira, just to say, what you're picturing about the PCP dosing is exactly what happened. Like, there's an other's a vulture article about it. And it's just one by one, this, like, this grip starts. A 6-4 grip says, do you guys feel okay?

I don't feel like I'm okay. And then, like, they all just, like, were taken by, like, a PCP mania. But they didn't get to the bottom of it? Was that, like, a PA with, like, who just wanted to see what would happen? I don't think they ever found out. I don't know if they found out who did it, yeah. Like, what's the chain of custody with the chowder? Right.

Who had access? Who had access? This is your Law & Order SVU training. This is my SVU. Wow. We got to find out who dose the chowder with PCP. Then we'll find our perp. Yeah, wow.

I was just trying to see, I want to, like, I was just trying to see the difference between. Dude, so Leo and Kate Winslet were both PCPed up. Or was it a bunch of extras and stuff? Because it's like, I feel like that would have been a, or was it not, yeah, was it like not the main cast? It happened. The clam chatter. Was Billy Zane fucked up? Happened on the film's Halifax set where Cameron filmed the, uh, the scenes with Bill Paxton.

Um, and Kate Winslet and Leo were not there. but Bill Paxton did get PCPed. He got P-CPED. RIP, RIP, BEL P-PXIN, P-C-PED. Oh, man, speaking a Twister, John DeBont went on to do more dangerous projects as time as a director for Twister. He shot the movie on location

in the middle of tornado season and had his crew and stunt workers chasing actual storms. What? Meanwhile, cinematographer Jack N. Green was hospitalized when a set designed to collapse was mistakenly activated while he was inside. The stars also experienced

injuries, with Helen Hunt reportedly getting a concussion after being struck in the head by a car door while her stunt double cracked rib. Helen and Bill Paxson were both temporarily blinded by powerful electric lamps. My God. I mean, is it worth it for Twister Jackie? I know that's one of your favorite films. Yes. Was it worth it for Milo and Otis? Yes. And those are the two that I will do. Do I bring up Milo and Otis every week? Maybe I do. Do you know how many dogs and cats died while the filming of Milo Notice. Oh my God. I think they were like 19 puppies and like 20 something

Katie's like they were just throwing them in the water. How were they dying? Because they just because they were like, oh, that one died. Get another one because they had to shoot the movie, Kara. Yeah, but like Milo Notice didn't have like big stunts where like you have to like cross a ravine. Yeah, but sometimes yeah when like that there is a scene when they both get like swept away. And I think that's when a bunch of them were dying. And they're like, I'm just throwing them pile.

Oh my God. Another thing. Back in our day. And there was no animal oversight on sets. Kids were getting kidnapped left and right. Faces were on milk cartons. You young kids could not live a day at our time. No, no.

They couldn't know with all of our public online diaries. Remember that show that Don Cheadle was on, I think? E.R. And, well, the one where all the horses died. Lucky. Oh, I don't know that. There was a set, right? Adam's nodding.

Don Cheadle fan, but I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, like, yeah. They had to shut it down because all these horses kept dying. Yeah. Dustin Hoffman, David Melchie was his follow-up after Deadwood. Oh, yeah. Oh, third horse dies on the set of luck. Three horses, and they shut it down.

Milo notice is like, once we get to 25, we'll reassess. It'll be fine. Dime a dozen when they're small. Checking you're going to kill you. You know, just sometimes. I, you know, I think that I guess I'm finished with this. Is that your list? Okay.

That's my list for me. That was a list. My lawyer was not on the list. But, you know, always on the list in our hearts. Always, always at the front of Jackie's mind. It feels like it really could have been on the list. Really should have been on the list. Well, something should have been on my list of eye doctors because I think I'm going.

Blind. Blind. Items. Ah, we can't see him. All right. Get ready. My favorite thing. Do not.

I'm listening. I'm locked in. Okay. Lock in. Do not believe the hype. The former red swimsuit wearing. is not hooking up with the pint-sized actor. Would the celebrity cult like to strap her into an e-meter and find out all of her secrets?

Yes. Will the pair ever date? No. Pam Anderson, Tom Cruise. Correct. Oh, yeah. That's nice actor is so shady and funny. We call him pint-sized actor in the blinds all the time.

He's like five-seven, right? It's like not that. Yeah, that's their code for him. Because he's so, like he has such a stick up. He's so sensitive about it that I think that they love to roast him on it. So lots of rumors that Pamela Anderson is dating Tom Cruise. Did the Liam Neeson thing not worked out? Didn't.

I know. We liked it too. But it appears to have perhaps been PR or perhaps just a fun little trist. We'll never know. Pam Anderson said that it wasn't PR afterwards. She did. I know. She did say that it wasn't.

But then people accused us of being, you know, Marks by believing her. Yeah. Yeah. Pamis. But apparently she's not dating Tom Cruise. So that's a relief. Now, this one. is wild and I want to ask you guys if you know anything about this. The speed runners have caused

chaos within the celebrity cult. It just exposed a bunch of long fractures in fights for leadership and there is a huge coup attempt going on behind the scenes. Have you guys heard of this? Wait, the speed runners? Speed runners. What is that? Okay. Like video games? What is the celebrity cult church that that that that in question? Scientology. Yes. So this is, okay, this is, the headline is Scientology speed running trend has L.A. a buzz and church unhappy. And this is a guardian article. This is not even like the weird websites that the blinds link to. Oh, is this where people break it, try to see how far they can run into a Scientology center? Yes. It is a TikTok trend, apparently, where kids are breaking into the Scientology Center and running around and filming

themselves. And the Scientology leaders are like, get these kids out of here. And they can't figure out how to stop them. The thing is, I don't even know if they're breaking in, I feel like they're ringing the doorbell or whatever, and then they're opening the door and they're running. Like, they're not like breaking and entering. So it's like, what? I don't know how we can arrest these kids. What are they doing?

Entering too quickly into a structure. Exactly. That's what's so fun about it is it's like, right, it's not, it's like they've figured out kind of a way to use the open doors of the Scientology Center to that. And then they break. I mean, I'm surprised, I don't know if they're getting charged with trespassing or whatever, but yeah, this is apparently now everyone's... And I've seen some of the videos

and the kids look like they're having a really good time. I bet it's a bliss. I bet. They really do. I love it. Yeah. So that... I just went to dinner somewhere near, you know,

you drive past Scientology stuff all the time. But I went to dinner at a place right next to the big blue building. Oh yeah. You know, and I had to walk because my... The parking is a nightmare around there. I had to park my car and walk and I just walked the whole length of that center. He's eerie.

Every window is shut. shut. Oh yeah. Every door is shut. Like, it's so creepy. Yes. Yeah.

Like, it just gives you, it doesn't, like, I'm Jewish, but I can pass a church and go, wow, that's a beautiful church. Oh, yes.

I don't, I pass the church of Scientology and a chill, which is evil. A chill races through my blood. Yes. Yeah. It's actual,

and as someone, I'm from, you know, I lived for a while in Clearwater, which is, God, the birthplace of Dienetics, baby.

Ground Zero. And so it really is, like, the way, going from Clearwater and then also living Los Angeles where there's another

obviously large population of people that are Scientologists, it's crazy to see anyone looking at it and be like, but that's not a religion that's a cult.

Like there are difference like that's great. It is a, well Jared, because Jared will try to say to me, it's no crazier than Judaism or Christianity

yeah, it is. Yeah, no, it really is. The E-MET is in everything. Yeah. Okay, buckle up, guys. because blind number three is a big one.

Okay. This foreign-born A-list actor, I will say this late foreign-born A-list actor was in bad shape. He was doing so many drugs he could barely figure out where he was most days. He was filming a movie but needed a break. One of his big secrets was who he was hooking up with at the time. She also loved drugs. She also loved the idea of being with an A-lister.

She was an almost a-m-m-a-list actor. at the time. She hooked up with a lot of A-listers and even A-plus Listers, but they would only do so in secret. Pretty sure that is why she left her list to be found. She wanted to go, she wanted to out the A-listers who would only hook up with her without anyone knowing. Anyway, she really wanted to take things public with our A-lister. So we're talking about two people so far, right? Actor, a late actor. Foreign-born, late actor.

actor and a a minus at the time list actor who was hooking up with him. Our actor takes a holiday break from filming, tells the actress to go overseas, let's go overseas together and spend the holidays on a boat. He wanted that so no one would see them together and not see him doing drugs. He tells her to bring a friend that will be into sex and drugs too. So our actress brings this actress, now a third actress that has entered the chat, who has been making the rounds this week. That is this week, the week of May 18th.

The third actress has been in a lot of press this week. We know her version of the events. We don't know the version of the actress who brought her, and we don't know the version of the actor because he was dead three weeks later. Oh my God. Okay, who is this dead foreign-born, born, A-LIS actor? Older?

No, he was a young man at the time that he, that he died. Very beloved. It was really sad when he died. Everyone was sad about it. Matthew Perry? No. Younger when he died. I didn't know if maybe a Canadian.

Yeah. Sometimes there's a Canadian in there. Does the person have an accent? Did they when they were alive? Okay. Okay. So he, and he was in many great movies. Let's start with the third actress.

The third actress who entered the chat. Okay. She has been making their rounds this week because she has a memoir out. And the memoir is very messy and spicy, and she's had a very messy life. The new, the one that just dropped a memoir? The one that just dropped a memoir.

Oh, God. Lena Dunham? No. No. Oh, because that is, that her memoir is everywhere right now. Yeah. Yes, but the other, this is,

okay, she was in Lauder to SVU as a kid. Okay. Kid actor grew up, had a really rough time of it. Payton Paneteer. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay.

She's the third one in doing. the chat. So she has been telling this story about, she has been telling this story this week about something that happened on a boat that was like kind of, it's a, it's, I've only read the articles about it. I haven't read her memoir. But basically, like, like, sketchy things have happened to panic. She is.

Yes. It seems like some. I mean, if you guys heard the rumor that she, like from, actually this, I used to go on this blind item site at work when I worked at MTV like 15 years ago that was called like crazy days and nights or something like that. Do you remember this blog? And they had this whole big, long blind item about a young child star who had been like basically like passed around the Hollywood scene in an abusive way. And everybody speculated it was Hayden Panetteer. I think that it's, it's devastating because I think she was an incredibly gifted child actress. And then I think she had a

really, really rough go of it. So the story she has been telling this week that is in her memoir is that she was on a boat and an actress put her in bed next to an undressed actor who was very famous and that it was all everybody was kind of druggie and then she fled I think before anything happened wait when did this actor die is it recently no a long time ago is it heath ledger yes okay so who was the actress who brought hayden paneteer I'm confused by all the a minus I thought if you weren't on the a list you were on the B list, and if you weren't on the B list, you were on the C list. Not anymore. There's a minus.

You could call this actress A. I think it's a, it's not an important distinction. But yes, so Hedon Panacheer is now telling the story that this actress brought her onto the boat, put her in bed with a naked Heath Ledger. She fled before anything happened, is my understanding. Again, I have not read the memoir. But who's the actress in question? Now, let's see.

She was also. It's not Michelle Williams. It's not Michelle Williams. No, it was someone he was embarrassed. Is it one of the Olsons? You're so close. You're so close. It's the same exact generation

as the Olson's messier, messier time growing up. Also a child actress. Also had a horrible time of it growing up. I know who killed me. Oh, Lindsay Lowen. Thank you. Lindsay Lohan.

Lindsay, Wow. Allegedly, Hayden Panette. I was getting lost because then I was thinking that she was supposed to also be foreign born, which is, oh, okay. So allegedly, Hayden Panette here. Yeah, let's go through.

Yeah, let's go through this. So Lindsay Lohan and Heath Ledger were hooking up, secretly, hooking up and doing drugs. This was in, obviously, during Lindsay Lohan's real druggy time, right? And so allegedly they're hooking up. He wants to keep it on the down low. They're doing a lot of drugs. He says, let's go yachting.

And he brings her yachting and whilst yachting, Lindsay Lohan brings Hayden Panetteer onto the boat. And then Hayden Panetteer finds herself in being put in a dangerous situation with Heath Ledger and then flees and it's a boat so, you know, difficult to flee. Can't to flee. And so that is the alleged story from Hayden Panette. Was Hayden Panadier like underage at that time? You know, I, how old is she?

She's in a, I think, I don't know what the difference in age between her and Low Hand is. Because I feel like this one, when Lindsay, Lonesie Lowen's about my age and when Heath Ledger died, we were young adults. She's 36. Hayden Panetier is 36. So in 2008. that's 20 years ago, minus two,

18 years ago. Yeah, we're just too young. Low hand, 39. So they're three years apart. Okay, three years apart. Too young. She would have been a, perhaps just of age,

or quite young. Quite young. Yes, this was a, this was a one that I kind of debated bringing in because I, you know, I have compassion for Heath Ledger. But it's just crazy

to have a blind that's now trying to fill in a story that a living actor is telling a memoir about an actor who is no longer with us. And then another actor who has not spoken on, who has not been named and has not spoken on what Hayden Paneteer is describing. I didn't know Hayden Panetteer had a memoir out. I bet it's why.

I'll bet it's just dropped and aerobotid talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, I'm even, yeah, I'm just like quickly even reading through, I guess the words are highlight. I don't know, the, the, the, the, the bombshells of, of, of, It seems like a rough read. I think it's going to be really rough read. I think it's going to be a rough read.

It's like both of those two must have just had parents that were just, I mean, we know a lot about Dina Lohan and Michael Loham, but I don't really know anything about Ayn Panetteer's parents, but it's like there are, look at Taylor Swift. Like there are people that like achieve success. I mean, it don't have all this like trauma from their parents. Right. Like whatever.

It's always to me whether the parents are like in it for the fame of it. Or not. I know that I'm not saying that all parents, because I'm saying there are, I'm sure, many ways in which you could do it that is not as traumatizing for your child. But Aidan Pantier seems that her parents signed her up with an agency at eight months old. So I feel like not that again that anybody that does that is, it's just that that's out the gate. Wow, you really are. Yeah, like, it's one thing if you, if you like know someone that's like, hey, we're shooting a commercial.

Like your kid would be perfect for it. to do what really wants to do something really... You do one commercial and now they've got a college savings account. You know what I mean? Like I have friends whose kids have done one-off commercials. It's another to sign them with an agent at eight months old. When they can barely hold their head up. By the way, this is her book is called This Is Me, colon a reckoning. And this happened when she was 18. She spoke about it on on Jay Shetty's podcast and is, I think this is going to be perhaps a developing... Do they not scare you? Yeah. Sorry, there was a big thing. Sorry, there's a big sound

and it scared us. Oh, sorry. Everybody is. Please continue. What is this? Law and Order SVU? Well, so yeah, so she was 18. This might be a story that's changing throughout this week, because it sounds like this is kind of a story that people are latching on to. Yes, and trying to figure it out.

Because I also see some people referring to the person as a British singer-songwriter. And so... I cannot emphasize enough here that this blind item, site that I get the blunts from is, I have... We should not take these as facts. It is not factual. Right? What's interesting is that Hated Pianatir has been on two SVUs, one in season two, where she plays the daughter of a famous couple of musicians.

Yeah, I've seen that one. Because they're on the road, they're touring Europe. They're super, super famous. And she sort of is, like, hurting herself or, like, trying to get attention because, like, they don't give her any attention. Then she grows up. And when she's older, like, she's in a way later season episode where she basically is having sex with men for. money, like for my purses and stuff. Whoa.

Like a sugar baby situation. I mean, yeah, get some purses. I think she really, on the list of child actors who really, really did not have a good time, I feel like she's at the top. Top. Yeah. Top. Yeah.

Like this story goal was going around forever about like, there's this kid that like, essentially it was like before Epstein stuff. Like, oh, there are these cabals of men. Like, there was like this story that there's a young actress that like just gets passed around to all these. And then you realize there's not just one of them. And there's actually many of them. Yeah.

And the only rumor it's like ever come across is my desk is Kate a Bidette. Like it's never like, oh, it could have been Candice Cameron Bray. You know. Well, I certainly hope that it's somebody who's not Heath Ledger, but that is just what the blind is and I wanted to bring it here. And this is a weirdly developing story. Thank you. Thank you for bringing this.

I can see again. Welcome back. I'm so sad when the lines are over. But are you so sad when the snacks come out to play? Uh-oh, it's time for Jackie. Snackies. Snackerrific. I've been a snackie girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl.

Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snackie. Snacky. Snacky. Is somebody going to eat those chips? Is somebody going to dip those dips? Is somebody going to try those candies? I got seminar. They say I'm a snack lead. I was excited. This is a user-submitted Snacky that we've got today.

And I want to send so much love out to Ainsley in Canada. Oh no, it's Jackie Snacky's Canadian edition. And I just want to say thank you so much. I mean, Ainsley's been listening since the Marcus days. And I just want to say thank you so much because Ainsley did also go on to say that love the rotating guest hosts, love the different vibe for every episode. I want to say thank you so much for sending in your love. And now, okay, now to the Snackies.

Thank you so much, Ainsley. Ainsley said thank you for the amazing content and for being you. And that also goes out to you as well. Thank you, Ainslie. Oh. There was a little PS that says, Incar is my favorite one of the rotating. And Kara who's also my favorite. Now, Jackie, I saw these Franks gummy bears and yes, Frank's Red Hot and thought of you.

Maybe you've already tried them, which I haven't, but you said we often are behind the times up here in Canada. but have you ever tried moose gummies? Now I, okay, I brought in two very different things because I know you love gummies. The reason why I chose Ainsley's package specifically for you, Kara, because there's gummies in it and also there are, and I'm going to say it Ainsley, I already ate a bag and there's a reason why I brought them in. There's these thing called Cheezys that are like the Canadian version, and I'm sorry, that's

a bastardization, but like a Canadian version of a much better. crunchy Cheeto. Oh, of which I am a massive fan. I know you are. So that's why so. This is exciting. Do you want to start with the cheesies or do you want to start with the Mises? You know I like sweet and salsy.

Can I just have like both and I'll kind of alternate them? Yeah, of course, yeah. So I'll let's start with the Cheeto. Let's show with the Cheetos. I also love Cheetos and it makes me feel like a fifth grader for some reason. That you're not going to get any of the. Oh my. My God.

Because I'll say from the jump, the color is alarming. They're really, really orange. Oh, will you show me? All right. I need to Google it. Canadian Cheezys. Canadian Cheezys. Cheesies.

Oh, wait, we turn the package around. I'm sorry. Oh, wait, sorry. Very important. Yes, bitch. Yeah, Canadian Cheeses. Oh, yeah. They're very orange.

Oh, dude. Welcome to the Cheezzoom. because Ainsley, you were so right. They're like a little saltier. Dude, that's exactly what Aalty says. Oh, my God. Okay. Oh, yeah, we're talking Hawkins.

I'm sorry. Is it Hawkins? Yes. Hawkins Cheezysys. A beloved, so A beloved or deeply despised Canadian snack. You might think, oh, these are just crunchy Cheetos. And you wouldn't be completely wrong, but you would also be far from right. They're far more dense.

That word is dense. And salt forward with cheese notes. They are not dangerously cheesy. So it's like a hybrid of a chip and a Cheeto. And they are fabulous. Yeah? And I also, I feel sad. You know what I'm going to say it?

For you Canadians out there that are anti-cheasies, I feel sad for you. I feel sad that that's what your life is. Here's a thing, though, Jackie. These are good. They're very salty. I can, like, plow through a bag of Cheetos. I don't think I could do more than what's in this little baby. Yeah, the word dense.

Maybe that's good. The word dense is staring me. Yes. Because regular Cheetos, it's like, it's everything about American food. It's addictive. It's just like more, more, more. Whereas this one, it's like, whoa, that's enough, you know? I think that that's why it's like, isn't that maybe not, like, not how maybe food is kind of supposed to be?

Like, it's like, oh, that this, at first I was like, these little bags of cheeses. And I, it took me a second to rip through this bag of cheeses as opposed to crunchy Cheetos. And I'm just like, I hoover them into my mouth. Yeah, yeah. I just ate four and I'm like, I got to take a break. I got to take a break. And if there's like Cheetos, I'd be like, I've eaten half a bag. So I take a break?

Wow. Interesting. But also, I do like that it says, Vre frommage chadelle. It has the, it has the, everything in French. It's like Jean-Shapeau.

Yeah. You know, in French, fat is lipid. Oh, that sounds nicer. It sounds not nicer. At least when you're looking at how fat, how much fat is in the food. I got about it. I guess it's also like lipids, though.

And I guess, you know, that is not as. How many lipids are in your food? Oh, how many lipids are in my Monty Moose? I'm going to throw it out there. Just open it up. Love the smell of them. We got a good old-fashioned fruity-chewy smell on these guys.

Now, these are their toty-frutty wildberry fruit gums. And their Monty-moos, please. I just wanted to have a smell, like, because you were bringing up the smell. Oh, they're so cute. So these are just Canadian gummies? Hell, yeah, they are. You say just. They're shaped like...

They're shaped like a little moose. And it has like little nose, like little big nostrils and eyes. I love them. Rigid moose ears. Antlers. Let me get into these meses. Moose munchies. Okay.

All cheesies for us mooses. When you're Googling Canadian moose, they do not think you're going to be googling about candy. But in Monty Moose. Monty Moose. Okay, got it. Monty moose. Monty moose. And these are good.

Is there a flavor? Like, are they cherry? But I think they are. That's what I'm getting. I like it. I feel like I'm getting like cherry. So what's crazy is that it's like the clear gummy as the antlers

and the cloudy, the cloudier puffy or puffier gummy as his face. And I feel like the face is giving strawberry and the little gel fruities are giving cherry. It says a tootie fruity and wild berry fruit flavored tree. Yeah, I feel like it's all over the berry spectrum. We're getting a lot of berries. Yeah, man.

Is there anything they can't do in Canada? There's nothing they can't do. See, now that I've eaten the little sugary spot, I'm kind of like, I think I can do one more cheese. I can do one more cheese. Yeah, I can get another cheesy for pleasies in there. My nightmare is somebody eating crunchy Cheetos into the bike, so I'm really trying. You're doing a really good job not doing that. I really don't want anyone to have to experience that.

But don't worry. We know that April always make sure that the timestamp. are in the captions so that if you don't want it, you don't have to have it. Okay. I am taking it. All right. What's going on in your world, MJ? You take your photos.

Is it my moment to shine? All right. MJ's Minutem Munchies. What wild flavor of Dorino have you brought us this week, MJ? I see an O2Tegas where I'm... I'm something new. It might blow my mind. Hello, spicy.

Hello crunches. Mimmy Mama Minimunch. Hello, Dill. I'm a wild thrill of this. Ma, ma, ma, ma, ma. Minute it munch. Midd it munch. Minut, munch.

Okay, I have a couple of different flavors. I wasn't sure what I was going to do today, but I'm actually changing chorus based on our conversation earlier about chowder. Because I found... Oh. Wait, is this... Are these the oyster crackers? These are wavy French onion soup.

Oh, my God, I also got those that I was going to bring in at some boy, but I don't have them with me. Should I should. Should I save them and we do them together? I need to know if they're great. I need to know. That's interesting, man, because I freaking love French onion. I do. French onion soup.

And I think onion, I eat onion bagels. Like, I do like onion snacks. Like, and my favorite thing to dip chips in is French onion dip. French onion dip now, but the thing is French onion soup. Very different than a French onion dip. Absolutely. So is it giving the cheese on top as well? Sorry, I'm hiccumbing us.

I don't even know how to describe what it's giving, but it's working. It's giving and it's working. What is it, though? I will say that it is very onion-y. It does not taste like the beef broth of the base of a French onion soup, nor does it taste like the greer cheese or whatever the fuck they put on top. But it's just like the general, it tastes like how French onion soup smells, which is good. You know what I mean?

It's like very- You know it, but it is more the soup than it is. Like, it doesn't, it's not cheesy. Question for you, does it just taste like you've dipped the chip into French onion dip? No, it's not giving dairy. It's like a savory rich onion. That's the difference. The dairy is the difference.

Because there's cheese in French onion soup, but it's not like the base of the soup. This, yeah, this is like onion umami forward. I would not say cheese is a big part of the flavor. They're fucking great. I'm going to look like a psychopath by French onion. soup chips because it's just a weird embarrassing flavor of chip to love, but I love these. How does it differ from a funnion?

Much better. I don't like funnions. It's just like it just tastes like onion powder. This is a much richer, more complex flavor. Wow. The flavor profile is much more complex. Are all of us anti-funion? But I'm so pro

onion flavor like you were just talking about, Kara. I feel the same way, which is why I got the French onion soup chips. But sometimes you know, it's so over-pacem. But it's like, it's not so overpowering that you wouldn't continue to eat it, MJ, because I see you, you're already eyeing down

the bris of that bag. I've never seen you look at chips like this before. I love them. I want to eat more. They're so good. Yeah, and you could do a dip. You could dip it in a French onion dip, and it would be great.

Like, it's, I fucking love these, Jackie. I cannot wait for you to eat them. They slap. And especially because then it gives more of a structure. My problem with the funion, I never like that they disappear to the extent, even though it's like, but that's crazy. You love cheese puffs.

You're right, I do. It's not the same as a funyon. Yeah, there's just something about the very specific flavor of a funnion that does not do it for me. And this is, yes, I'm just like chugging water to replace it in my system. The cheesies or the moose is. Oh, the cheesies. I finished all my cheeses. And it was just like, it's so funny, though, because at first it was like,

oh, these Canadians with their small serving sizes, but this is the amount of cheeses one should be used. Don't give me another cheesy, but I did finish the little package. I'm going to eat this entire bag of wavy French onion soup plays. They're so good, you guys. It's so weird, but it works. French onion soup lays. God, we need to get in on.

Where's the profile in Vanity Fair on the Lays, like, flavor team? I know. Because they're honestly psychotic. I mean, the things they're coming up with. It's why I started Jackie Snackies in the first. please, not just because I'm a little fatty girl that loves snackies, but it's just because so many crazy

flavors exist that my original thought was I'd love to try them and let people know of like, oh, don't worry about this one. Oh, you don't have to try this one. But then you find these diamonds in the rough because they do these international flavors of chips and sometimes

huge bust. But then at other times you get a bangor of a French onion suit. It's a banger. It's a banger. I would eat these with French onion soup. I would eat these with onion dip. I would eat them in a box. I would eat them with a fox.

Fuck yeah. Hop on pop. Green eggs and ham. Oh, it's green eggs and ham. Oh, it's green eggs and ham. Hop on pop. Different. Excellent.

Sorry. I was so busy thinking about how I couldn't hop on my pop last weekend. But he's in the cemetery all alone. They wouldn't let me hop on my pop. And I just wanted to jump up and down on his grave. And they wouldn't let me. Did you guys have plans? going to like say words?

Yeah, we had like a whole, we had like a broad things that we were going to like bring and like we had like things that we'd all like written to say and every, none of it. None of it happened. And it was funny because you'd think like, oh, let's like still do it like in the back. We did it. We're like, fuck that. We're not doing it there. We're not doing it at all.

We're not celebrating him whatsoever then. And you know what again, he would have been fine with it. But thank you so much, Kara for joining us on this week's episode. Always a blast. Really, really love having you. And Kara, obviously, we know where we can find you, but where can we find you? You can find me on Who's the Bitch right here on the LPN Network. New episodes every Wednesday.

That's messed up. New episodes every Tuesday about Law & Order S-F-U. And I'm Kara Klank, K-A-K-L-E-N-K on Instagram. And thank you, everyone, for joining us on this week's episode of Page 7. Again, you can get more me and Kara over on Who's the Bitch? Definitely check out those first those. like all filmed episodes over on YouTube.com slash at Who's the B? Check out those fully filmed episodes.

And yes, down the pipeline, page 7 will also be getting filmed soon in the future. So that is something to look out for. But again, we thank you for hanging out with us last week during our watch-along for Murder She Baked. And if you... Wait, is that a lifetime or a heart? We are going to... I'll tell you all about Murder She Baked, but you can check out.

the full watch along over on patreon.com slash page seven podcast. We've got all of that up there for you. And also, I want to say thank you to all of our new patrons that maybe were brought over from, I popped out a couple of chapters of me doing Twilight, the Twilight audiobook that I did during quarantine that I did for our Patreon. We popped out a couple of those episodes last week. I just for my Patreon, for that's messed up, just watched the first Twilight movie. Nice. We need to have a full talk. back. We need to run. It was like how I didn't learn about Jesus until I was 17.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, I was like, this is what you guys are believing in. And then I like watched Twilight as like a person in my 40s and was like, wait, what? I mean, I can totally see why it hit for people. But I was telling my husband, because he was sitting there, I was watching it, go, you know, Jackie has a tattoo of this movie. And he was like, really? Like, he didn't know you were so into it. But do you, that's a thing. I'll give him the whole diatribe of why and what happens. in the end and why I'm obsessed with it. Okay. So I only watch the first one.

I don't know where it goes. So this is why. Once you find out why, you'll be like, oh, because again, I also read Twilight not knowing anything about it as I was reading it. And you're a monster fucker. I think it all makes sense. I'm a monster fucker, guys, even though I didn't want to fuck really either one of those monsters.

But if you want to talk about monsters, you do want to fuck, definitely come hang out over on our Discord for Monster Match. which is the cryptid fuck game that Jeff and I are currently writing. I've got a link to our Discord over in my Instagram profile. Jack that worm and now you know it's about jerking off a dick

and yeah, if you always wondered if that's what it was, you were correct. So go check that out over there because we are trying to get our finalizations in for what our characters are looking like because we're going to have a demo out here pretty soon for people to play. So we'll see how that goes.

So check all that out, MJ. You can email us, page 7 podcast at gmail.com. Thank you for your emails. Thank you for being here. We love you guys so much. And Kara, we love you. Thank you for coming back. Thank you for having me.

It feels like a warm hug when I come here. Thank you. We love you, Kara. Bye, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. On Second Helpings. Bye. This show is made possible by listeners like you.

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