Page 7 - Massive Copyright Fraud w/ Jake Young

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

This week on Page 7, Jackie and MJ are joined by Jake "Loves Bitches" Young of LPN's own Nerd of Mouth, to discuss how to get around needing a Disney+ or Hulu account, James Van Der Beek who is fighti...ng cancer, made a surprise appearance at the Dawson's Creek reunion benefit, Danielle Fishel and the cohost of her podcast go on the road and their rider is almost exactly the same as P7's, Rider Strong got called out for STINKY broccoli farts but they claim this is a LIE. Jackie bought tickets for her and Holden to the full movie of the official release party of "The Life of a Show Girl", Robert Irwin continues to be a little ball of delight on "DWTS", and Matthew McConaughey says get a queen size bed for the sake of ya marriage!  Then it's time for a list of Terrible Co-Stars Whose Bad On Set Behavior Range From Petulance to Genuinely ILLEGAAALLL!  Then Blinds, and a Jackie's Snackies with a  fruit-ful moment of fate and much like a nerds cluster, this MJ's Minute munchies is INSIDE Jackie's Snackies plus Jake is introducing his OWN NEW SEGMENT INVOLVING DRINKS, running from 1:14:55.181 - 1:29:47.741! All that, and even more on this week's Page 7!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 You know that if we are to stay alive and see the pissing every year. I can't want to wait for our lives to be over. I want to know right now what will it be? I don't want to wear more lives to be over. Will it be? So will it be sorry. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Oh, I know your back hurts from working on the tree.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Take it up. Yeah, yeah, take it down, Jake. I will do the laundry. Yes. Well, you go have a beer. She's so mad about him going to have a beer. Oh, that's all you do. You go have a beer.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Where is my lonely ranger? Where have all the cowboys go? We're just going to go through the whole pollicle. All two of them. All two of the pollicles. All two of the poll. That's all we need. here on Babe 7.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Welcome. She probably had more than two. No way to know. Impossible to tell. Well, she looks great. I just Googled her and she looks fantastic. Oh, she looks absolutely fantastic. Welcome Jake Young to the show,
Starting point is 00:02:29 co-host of Nerd of Mouth right here on the last podcast network. You know, I've been called the Paula Cole of LPN. You know, I have thought that. I look you up and down and go, Paula, how'd you get in here? I feel like I would have had a few more questions before you got all the way from the door to the seat. Like, why are you here?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Why aren't you currently singing the Dawson's Creek theme song to me? You haven't even asked me where the cowboys have gone. I actually know. Where did they go? Utah. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You know, to be with the Mormons. And I understand it because, I mean, big fans of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives here. I will say that. And also Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. But we're not going to be talking about our Mormon shows right now. And don't worry, thankful for everybody out there, dancing with the stars,
Starting point is 00:03:14 on the evenings of when we record. So we can't talk about this week's Dancing with the Stars on this episode. You're going to have to wait until Second Alpings. But I will throw it out there and I am going to save this up top. I have already canceled my Hulu
Starting point is 00:03:27 and my Disney subscriptions. And I will throw it out there that Dancing with the Stars is on Hulu, but here's the thing. Also the dances go on YouTube for free. There are ways in which you can watch this for free in other places. We can be downloading them illegally.
Starting point is 00:03:42 There are other... It's like, I just... I'm there for the dances. So now I'm just going to be watching them on YouTube. There are ways in which to do this. I feel like a lot of people look down the barrel of how do I cancel Hulu and Disney. There's so many things that I still want to watch. We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:03:55 This is like when we discovered me and my partner, the beautiful Marie, that you can just watch the mass singer songs on YouTube. On YouTube as well. They just cut out all the bullshit. All the fluff. But also MJ does love the dance fluff. I know you love the dance. I need the fluff.
Starting point is 00:04:12 But I also know, I understand we need to boy. You know, Disney, Hulu. It's just a shame because Andor is on Disney. And if everybody would just watch Andor, they would know to stop doing all this fascism enabling. That's what they need. They need to what. Have you even heard of season two of Andor guys?
Starting point is 00:04:31 Like executives or whatever? I mean, they read the Bible and still like do what they do. So there's just no. I worship at the altar of Cassian andor, Jake. All right. As a nerd, you should understand this. And they, you know, he's a bit of a Jesus figure. They could just, you know, I have.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Change it to him. Diego Luna can save us. Can't he? Right in the way that I keep screaming for Superman to save us. Did I watch Superman again over the weekend? Yes, I did. Same. That's now, wow, coping.
Starting point is 00:05:01 That's hashtag cope, you know. We need it. We need Superman right now. And I did talk a lot about, I was sitting in a tattoo chair for many hours yesterday. And so part of, you hit like a different echelon of pain. at a certain level, you know, once you hit like hour six or seven, and it really makes you start thinking and getting into all these theories. And man, I really theorize at this poor, poor person for a long time about all of these things. But it's good. That's where we get it out.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And we leave it in the tattoo chair. Do you know what I mean? Remember the three of us all got tattoos together? I do remember that. Holden was there too. Yes, Holden was. I guess Holden was there too. And I guess, yeah. Oh my God. Your tattoo is all. Unbelievable. Jake got an amazing One Piece tattoo. It's subtle, but it's a, it is a Japanese Daruma doll, which is kind of this like a superstitious thing where you like set a goal for yourself and you fill in one eye of this like weird creepy egg man. And then you fill it in later when you've like achieved the thing. But it's also the gum gum fruit from One Piece. And thankfully, still no gations on the creator of One Piece.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So we're like, which for any sort of comics. Like, it's always going to be a problem. Always going to be just something you're going to have to, like, worry about. Oh, I am, I'm dedicating so much of my body to S.J.M. That I am, it's like, you better, you better never do anything bad. All right, because I'm going to be really, really upset because I've kind of like. Sarah Jessica Marker? Sarah.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Is that where she got the mold her face? Is that why? You're really struggling there. I'm sorry. Sarah J. Moss. Sarah J. Moss. Who writes Agatty's. The Moss First.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Present City. You made me read several butt-fucky things from her books. Yes, I certain. Well, not a lot of butt-fucky things, but I will say maybe if you're in there judging about people with wings or maybe I don't know what scenes you have read. Wing-fucking. And I am a monster fucker, and you know this about me, Jake. Do you judge me for being a monster fucker? No, I get it completely.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Thank you. That's all I know. needed to hear. And I wasn't, I didn't force him to say that everybody. I feel like we, it's not a, oh, gee, I wonder, like, it's not, I don't know, I've been giving way the game here, but like, man, I wish there was like a, like, a big, like, hulking dude that would talk to me, like, real rough and, like, a growly style, but it's like so inhuman that I don't actually associate it with, like, the actual danger, real life men present me in my day-to-day life. Like, it's pretty, it's pretty obvious what's going. It's, it's almost Yeah, no, you got to, and honestly, we talk about this a lot over on Buffy that sometimes the biggest monster of all is man.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Always. Those episodes always bring me to my knees. Fucking, we got, we're doing, the atrocity counter. We're fucking killing it out there. Oh, yeah. And by it, I mean, the innocent. Yeah. The worst, the worst episodes of Buffy, it's always just a normal man who is the enemy or normal life.
Starting point is 00:08:07 We're in season five of Buffy, and it's just like normal sadness of life is the enemy. me, which is also why we're singing the Dawson's Creek song at the top because we're all sad about James Vanderby. I don't want normal sad things in this timeline. I just want like, you know, it's like it's like, I just want to be stabbed by a vampire, you know, by a vampire's kiss. And I don't want like Buffy's mom to have, I guess I won't spoil season. No, I just want to live in the supernatural. I just wish it is every day I'm crawling more and more towards understanding, again, grisly man where he didn't want to go back to the human world. He just wanted to stay in the bare world. And I sometimes am reading my book and I'm like, can't I just live in the book?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Can I just be in the book? But you know what? We can't guys. We have to deal with our waking reality and our waking reality consists of the Dawson's Creek reunion. And I did say, I was like, what are they rebooting Dawson's Creek? Why are they doing reunion? No. It actually, this is just a, this is just a heartwarming story of they got together to do a Dawson's Creek reunion and James Vanderbeek did show up via Zoom and a lot of people didn't think. And for those of you that are unaware, he has colorectal cancer, I believe. Right. How you say it, colorectal cancer diagnosed in 2023.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And yeah, so this was like a benefit. Yeah, and they did a live reading of the first episode of Dawson's Creek and it benefited. That's sweet. Yes, the F-cancer organization, which and his own and also James Vanderbeek's colorectal cancer treatment and man james van derbyke has he's got a big beautiful family and i think that it really awoken a lot of people because the the way that james van derbyke looked in the zoom i think was very surprising to people but i also feel that it was very important for people to see what he is not that we needed that it was more of just a to put in perspective of what's going on
Starting point is 00:10:06 here and why this is happening. And it was beautiful. And Lynn Manuel Miranda stood in for Dawson's Creek in the reading of it. And it was just a beautiful supportive night. Wait, the character's name isn't Dawson Creek, right? That's not. No, no, no, no. I think they're just around the creek.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Okay. Oh, Lynn Manuel was like in the reading, he was Dawson. He was the James Vanderbink. Well, this is the problem. At first, I saw all these stories going around and I was, Like, I, you know, of course, was like I feel, you know, I feel empathy for James Vanderbake and his family. I don't have any particular emotional connection to Dawson's Creek because I did not watch it at the time. But then, of course, I watched.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You were more of a Felicity girl. I somehow missed Felicity to. What was I doing during this time? What were you doing? I think I was watching ER, late stage ER. Oh. But here's the thing. Also, no, you were being too cool.
Starting point is 00:11:03 These were the years that we were having out. Because oftentimes here. Sometimes, Jake, we do page seven rewinds where we go back to certain years. And if there's one thing that MJ and I both have really truly realized. And honestly, Holden, too, that we talked about a lot that there were time periods where we were too cool to like something like Dawson's Creek. Like that, that's what the way most like. I think I was like, oh, these stupid idiots enjoying this sweet show about high school, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Because it was right in our high school years. It's 1998 to 2003. And I feel like I knew a lot of people that love Dawson's Creek, but those were the people that I was like, and I'm not like you. I'm not a base. I'm not like the other girls. Meanwhile, I'm over here and I'm like, Michelle Williams was there.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I knew Katie Holmes and Joshua Jackson were there. And I knew James Vanderbeek was there. I also, I do remember at the time being not like the other girls because I did not think James Vanderbique was hot and that really set me apart from the other girls. And so I was a bit snooty about that, which again, it's just like, why did you need to do that? Like who, right? Like a picture of Noah Wiley up on your locker? Is that what we were dealing?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yes. Yes, exactly. And so I was needlessly snooty about it. But then I watched this video of the whole cast singing, I don't want to wait together. And I'm sobbing. Sobbing. Sobbing. Because I'm, you know, I may have been a snoot from the late 90s to the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But now I'm a snoot no more. I'm a snoot no more. And now I'm at the age where James Vanderbeek, he's in his late 40s. and we all know that that is devastatingly young to be ill. And it's also an age where you just love to see old friends get together. Yes. And they're all on stage up there embracing each other. And I'm not even thinking about how Katie Holmes is weird now.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You know, I just want them all to be happy. I know. And I just remember this time period because I feel like this was around the time when I was like, no, I like I'm older. I'm young, but I like I'm older. And it's like, oh, is this like a trauma thing, girl? Is this something you got to deal with? It's like I, at this point, you know, at this point, I wanted, you know, the striker. I wanted the Aragorns.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I wanted the, you know, my Legerless. I wanted someone that was going to go out there and fight. And that's not what you got at Dawson's Creek. Yeah, yeah. You said you just had Pacey in an affair with his teacher, I believe. Is that what happened? That was like a big plot line. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:13:18 That was the big thing. Whoa. I was going to say, I think at this time, my biggest crush in this exact time period was Toby McGuire, which, who looks a lot like Joshua Jackson. So again, I don't know what ground I had to stand on to be like of those. People aren't hot. Obviously, Joshua Jackson was hot then. He's hot now.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But that's the one. He was Pacey, right? And he slept with a grown-up. Correct. And I mean, I know someone that I still have crushes on. And that is the cast of Boy Meets World. And no, again, we're not talking about Dancing with the Stars, but I did want to bring up that. So they, Daniel Fissel, Writer Strong, and Will Friedel have a podcast and they go on the road with said podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Oh, my God. It's just like us. Just like us. It was like us, Jake? I mean, obviously the story when you sent it to me did resonate with our incredible whirlwind tour of these United States. That was maybe one of the most precious memories of my adult life. Yes. Same.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And their writer is exactly the same as ours, except the gummy worms. Which, I mean, in the future, I would be down to add chewy fruities onto the list if you guys would be down with that. Of course. I eat my twin snakes. It's my new fixation. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But their show called Pod Meets World, which we've talked about here on the show before.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I've listened a little bit. And it's really, it's wonderful. They've known each other for a long time. I think it's, I love their friendship. I love that the two of them have been coming out because Danielle Fischel is on Dancing with the Stars. And so they're coming out to support her. It's one. If I run Dancing with the Stars, would you come, Jake?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, of course. Thank you. Unless I was a big. Their friendship is really cute. Yes. It's interesting. I actually first listened because it was in the wake of that. one of the various documentaries about all of the horrors, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:05 And it was like there was, there's been Gatians floated around, obviously, the child star world and the Disney world, not towards the children, but towards like, you know, adults that were in their orbit. Don't you dare bad talk, Mr. Feeney. That man is a saint. Oh, no. No, I don't think, I don't think Mr. Feeney got Gatians, but, but it's interesting. I'm looking them up.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Mr. Feeney Gations. No, but they like, they have, I remember they talked about. that and they also recently talked about like there I guess there's some fred savage gations so it's interesting they like they they because there's also a full house a podcast that I have also listened to and what I again I had not listened to enough of pod needs world to really speak to uh to you know the whole thing as a project but they in addition to doing episode recaps which is what the full house episode the full house podcast does they also like talk about like the events in and around to the show and also like now, which cannot be easy, you know, because it's obviously like a very, like,
Starting point is 00:16:06 they're like, they're trying to kind of be like, we were kids at the time. We didn't know all of this stuff was happening. So it's like, but yeah. So it's just an interesting. It's interesting to see them, the three of them like age into, like well into adulthood. They're our age older. And they're like, okay, we can tell there's a lot of nostalgia for Boy Meets World out there. And also it's not the 90s anymore. Now we. we live in this time where we have to kind of also do like an audit of all these things that happened then. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And, you know, so it's like a, it must be a delicate line to walk. And when I saw that the two of them were there to support her at Dancing with the Stars, I did think it was really sweet. It was. And I loved it. And it was very cute because they were talking about their writer when they go on tour. And they were specifically bringing up because we also would always ask for a veggie plate because you got to get your fiber in there somehow.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You got to make it move through. your body, especially when the only other thing pretty much on a rider was a cheese pizza. And so if you're going to be bound up every night, you know, you got to get that broccoli in there. But it was cute because they were just talking about a story when they were on the road. And they mentioned Ryder, Ryder Strong and his stinky broccoli. And even though it wasn't his stinky broccoli, the broccoli was just stinky when it was open. You know I hate that word. But now they always refer to writer's stinky broccoli, even though Ryder Strong was like, it's not my stinky broccoli.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It was our stinky broccoli. I don't like the word stinky either. I know it's the word stinky that inherently stinks up everything that it's around, which I guess does make it a visceral word. But now they're just like making these cute jokes and it just made me think of us trying to get a pizza every. evening when we were on tour. And I just love the idea.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Honestly, I was just upstairs talking about there's going to be a dog being interviewed on last podcast. And the dog had a rider. And I was just looking upstairs about at the dog's rider. And I guess I feel like I shouldn't say the things you're not supposed to talk to the dog about, which is very funny to me. Wait, is this one of those like TikTok dogs that can actually like speak by hitting various buttons and so we can understand.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I'm going to be real with you, Jake. I don't know. I know that he is the star of a new horror movie called Goodboy. So he is a star. And I did ask, like, can I pet him or is that like a Weinstein's a tweet? Like if I, you know, he is an actor. So it's like, how do I get consent from him to make sure that I can pet it? Yeah, it's a lot of nonverbal communication.
Starting point is 00:18:54 You know, the thing about writer strong is that I feel. what's so weird about seeing Ryder Strong and Will Friedel, and the same probably could be said about Dawson's Creek if I had admired them at the time. Maybe Jake, if you watched at the time, maybe you feel this way, I feel like, but specifically with Ryder Strong and Wilfridol,
Starting point is 00:19:09 two of my earliest crushes, right? And I kind of had them up on this, like, pedestal because they were like the cool, you know, the cool, hot friends. And the cool older brother. And then we all know that as boy meets world went on too long, will transition from being the cool older brother
Starting point is 00:19:24 to being like the brother that desperately needed to make his own friends and move out of the house. He needed to go somewhere else. Like, he really needed to move away. But there's like, I feel like there is something that happens that is happening now to us millennials as we are all aging and watching the people who were once the like, like slightly older, hot people age.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And now we all just feel like the same age. And we're all just like happy to be alive. And it's like that thing that when you get older and you realize that people who are a few years older than you are no longer up on a pedestal and you're all just equals. And like in a way that realization is. freeing to be like, oh, just because like my brother is three years older than me doesn't necessarily mean he'll always be smarter than me. Like I can, I can like see us as equals, which, but then also it's kind of a loss because you're like, oh, I'm not, you don't have that kind of like childlike view
Starting point is 00:20:12 anymore of like, yeah, writer strong is just like the hot, cool, hot friend. And now I'm just like, he's just like, he's just so, there's something that's like kind of thrilling, yet dizzying and slightly upsetting to seeing the people you had crushes on as a kid be like normal people. They're still famous. They're still stars. But also like we're all just getting older, you know, like no one's the hot neighbor anymore. Yeah. And also staying in the business is a lot more difficult than it used to be.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Honestly, MJ and I just read Enter Talking Joan Rivers's first autobiography. And that was written in 1986. and even just thinking about, you know, the way in which, you know, we looked at celebrities so differently back then than we do now because they do, it's like it doesn't last. Even like friends, you know, the people that are in friends, they still make 20 million a year because of residuals and everything. And that just doesn't happen anymore. Right. So staying in the game is a lot more difficult than it used to be. to do a nostalgia podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. I have, okay. All right. All right. MJ, your actual, like, meditation on, like, time and friendship and, like, the ways that, like, past and future kind of combine into, like, a holistic present was inspiring. But I got two bones to pick about this story. Bone it out.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Number one. I worked an event in Chicago at this point. It must have been, like, nine years ago. Okay. And we interviewed Ryder Strong, and he was a real jerk, kind of, like, big-timed up. kind of like made us feel like this was beneath him and was just a jerk to our co-workers. Don't like the guy. Boom.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Maybe his newfound podcast money has like, now he has to be Mr. Parasocial and he's nicer now. I don't know. How people change, but I'm... How long ago was this? Writer Strong, more like chider wrong. That's what I am saying to him. I chided him.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Chider wrong, yes. You've been bad to our Jake. And also, Jake is the nicest person of all time. How dare you ever be bad? Damn. And number two, there is a quote in this article where Danielle is talking about the tour and the broccoli incident and how it's all related. And she says, most memorable are not the things that happen on stage. There's always going to be things that happen on our way to the shows, our way back to the shows, in the backstage. So first of all, I think I speak for all of us when we say, no, it's the listeners and the audience that has made the most impact on us. It is when we give our all on that. stage that is most important. Yes. And our fiddly little like, ooh, are you going to eat the hummus plate?
Starting point is 00:22:57 I don't want the hummus plate. What's the deal with the hotel? Whatever, it doesn't matter. That's boring friend talk. It's the people that matter. It's the thrill of performing that matters. Yes, it's being up on stage. It's feeling the human connection.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And especially when you're a podcaster, because if there's one thing that we all as entertainers crave, it is human connection. You know what you don't get on a podcast? A lot of extra human. human connection. And that's why I love to go, why I want to be back out on tour. I want to be talking to people. I want to be mixing and in with people. Yeah. And you're right, Jake. No. That is annoying. It is, you know, it is, I think that the real weird thing about the pod meets world thing is that, yeah, to be a podcaster and to have that you kind of try to, I think that
Starting point is 00:23:42 they're trying to be like, yeah, we all remember the 90, like it's a nostalgia thing, right? But also, like, they're coming at it from the extremely unique perspective of having, been child stars. Like even at Dancing with the Stars, when Daniel Fischel danced, mind you, I think that this was very inappropriate, but one of the judges was like, I had, the first thing he said was just like, we all had a crush on you as a kid. And I was like, I wish you probably hadn't opened with that. I think that's a weird thing to say.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You make a really weird point that, like, my entire life, like, however many years I was actively watching Bullying Meets World, Daniel Fischel has been writing the I used to be Topanga vibe. Yeah, yeah. Through like since the, as soon as the show was canceled, she was just like, oh, she did, I think, like, a lot of, like, teen comedies to, like, prove that she wasn't, like, a squeaky clean sitcom star. Yeah. She's always done, like, a reality show thing. Like, she's always just been in the, she has made this insane career out of just, like. I was to pay.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Once being the hippie girl, the, the, because her original joke is that she lost eventually. I feel like she even grew out of that in the show. She was just like the, like, Corey, like, wife. character. Yeah, also, could we talk about how they were in too serious a relationship?
Starting point is 00:24:56 They wiped her up so young. Like, they really did put her into quite a, quite a place of her being like his keeper pretty young. I think this is the thing, when I think about this podcast, because I have thought about it a lot,
Starting point is 00:25:09 because I used to love that show. I was obsessed with Boy Meets World. I think we need a Boy Meets World like nostalgia recap podcast that's not hosted by the stars of Boy Meets World. Because I don't think they have any critical distance. This was the same thing that came up with the Dan Schneider documentary.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Like, they did talk about it, but a lot of it was them just being like, we didn't do anything, we didn't do anything. And there's, how could they have any critical distance? They were kids and they were in it, you know, but I feel like there's, Boy Meets World, there's like the early years where it was like, man, this is a good show. And then there's the later years where you're just like, Eric, you have to, you must move out. You must. Yeah, move on. You must. Yeah, move on. with these kids, you know? And so I feel like it is like that show lives, like it is, it did something to the millennial mind.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Like it really. We watched it every day. Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but I watched it every single day. Yeah. And it was really in our brains. Remember that episode where they just like killed Minkis on screen, like, a ritualistic execution? See, now that way.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I mean, then I'm a diehard fan forever because I mean, sometimes, you know, you got to get rid of the weakest link, even though he was smart and you was strong in other ways. But sometimes holding you back. Remember when they just changed who the sister was and never acknowledged it? Yeah, never, never got into that. Who needs it? You know, we don't need to know what happened to the kid. Just like, I don't know, do we need to see a full movie of the official party of Life of a Showgirl
Starting point is 00:26:35 from Taylor Swift in a couple weeks' time? And you both are looking at me currently with like a semi- disgust and I appreciate it, but I will say I did drunkenly purchase tickets for me in Holden during Jackin on Friday because he kept screaming that I wasn't supporting him enough and then I wasn't supporting Taylor enough and that he said that I had to get us. So I got us tickets to go. It is only, so it's the official release party of a showgirl and they're going to, I'm already making funny bit. I am upset with myself that I bought the tickets. So, Jackie, I have to tell you, the link you sent was just the New York Post's entire
Starting point is 00:27:21 Taylor Swift vertical. So I scrolled through like 900 stories. Yes, you sent us a link to it. I didn't know that they had a Taylor Swift vertical. It is every, it's like how when you go to the live updates that I accidentally linked to the live update. So it was just like, is she going to a Chiefs game? Is she not going to a Chiefs game? We think we saw it a Chiefs game. Yes. When you go to the New York Times, there's like the tab that's like Trump administration and it's like, you know, 24 stories of the day that are the breaking news about the Trump administration. That's this but just for Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And I can't believe both that you didn't read all of it. I cannot believe you didn't read every single update because there is someone that is hired at the post that only writes about Taylor Swift. So I apologize. This is actually talking about so she's got her fifth studio album coming out in just some weeks. And the new single is The Fate of Ophelia. and I guess that they're going to be showing a music video. And then what I am annoyed by is that I thought that this was a movie.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I thought that she had like made a movie. I wasn't really aware of what it was, right? Maybe a documentary, maybe a visual album, something. It says, so the fate of Aphelia, which is one of the 12 tracks in the upcoming album, fans also can expect to see behind the scenes footage from the music video shoot, new lyric videos, and never before seen personal reflection. from the singer on songs from the album. And I don't know about you guys.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I am immediately thrown into a rage at the phrase never foreseen personal reflections. She's your English teacher, Jackie. She's your English teacher and she's engaged to your gym teacher, okay? And it sounds like she's really leaning into that. And I was kind of whatever about that at first. And now the fact that she's going to be doing reflections on Ophelia, I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Reflections. It's going to be a personal reflections. Are we going to have to read Taylor, There's like five paragraph essays about Ophelia. I can feel. I will. Not interviewing from here. That's the weird thing.
Starting point is 00:29:17 No interview. Is it just going to be, like, is there, are they literally just going to scroll an essay like it was the opening to a Star Wars movie? I know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It could mean, ooh, it could mean rumination.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It could mean, actually. Oh, it's certainly good. Oh, it definitely could mean anything. I'm not. So you're going to be in a movie theater with Holden seeing. Middle of the. afternoon. Yeah, I told, I was like, I'm not doing this at night. I'm not, I can't handle you at night, loving Taylor. I can't handle you midday loving Taylor. Drunk as skunks. Yes. You know,
Starting point is 00:29:51 when I brought my kids to the, to the sing-along K-pop demon hunters in the movie theater, I really imagined it being like how you and Holden described the eras, you know, sing-along in the movie theater. We had an amazing time. Everyone was up and dancing and singing and drinking. And that was when I was picturing the K-pop Demon Hunter sing-along would be like, and everyone was just sitting quietly singing along, and I really wanted everyone to be drunker and louder. You got to be the change you want to see, MJ, and you got to bring that drunk. What do you think we're going to be doing at 2 p.m. at an AMC. We are bringing. I already asked Jeff if he could take us to the movie and pick us up from the movie. And he said, you could probably
Starting point is 00:30:35 take an Uber. I was like, no, no way. I was like, I don't even want to be in the Uber. in the state that I'm going to probably be in to go see this just because I thought that it was something different. And also, it's not a part of ANC Stubbs. So I had to pay for it separately. And I'm angry. And Taylor, okay, and I will say, Holden and I did get into a little argument because I was like, yeah, Taylor Swift always got to make as much money as humanly possible.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And then Holden was like, Dad, God, what's it, this? David, never. And I'm like, she keeps re-releasing. It's like, it's because. It's what the fans want. She's giving the fans what they want. And it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And what she wants is to be and maintain being a billionaire. And look, she's done it. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, Jake, but I am a self-hating Swifty. And I don't know if you're picking up what I'm putting down here. If anything, this is like, it sounds like it's going to be very content sparse. It's going to be just like a overblown commercial. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:38 for her, like, most dedicated fans. They were, like, enlisting you to be part of, like, a proto street team. They should be paying you to come see this. You're right. Yeah. No, I'm still struggling to understand what is going to happen at this movie. I'm looking at the page. It's a menagerie of feelings, MJ, and I feel like you're not giving that to tell.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's important that everybody come to a theater and just hold space for her. Yes, hold space for her. We are there. Exactly. we are there giving her. And that's why it's like at this point, is this some sort of like cult ritual that we are actually like giving her power in this?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Like it kind of scares me. Like literally, the only way this is worth it is if like the lights go down, like the entire theater quietes down and there's just like Taylor like appears on screen. It's like, oh my God, you actually showed up for this. You are my like Fayadine. You are like my holiest, you are my,
Starting point is 00:32:34 I will be your lease on. Al-Qaib. Whoa. Look under your seat. There's a loaded head game. Take to the streets. I know that, ref. I get that one. And because Lisa and Al-Gaibe is fun to scream.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It is. I mean, the movie really made it seem that way. Oh my God. He just, Jeff is always. I mean, Adam, I know you are too. Always a, I mean, we could put it on Dune. You want to, should we throw on Dune too? I mean, it's been a second.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I mean, he tried that with Superman, which is how we watch Superman again. He couldn't believe it worked. He's like, you really want to watch it again? Yeah, watch it again. And, you know, sometimes all you got to do is ask, guys. Got to leave it all on the table. I'm just saying that is the only way this makes sense. It's like, there's some posters and a loaded handgun.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Go my children. Strike fear into the heart of America. Tell them how wonderful the album is. And she's already sold a limited amount of her cardigans. And Hold'em was like, well, I know what I'm aware. I know what I'm aware because I got the orange sweater. And I was like, who gives a shirt? Holden did. Holden got the cardigan.
Starting point is 00:33:40 For a limited edition piece of band merch, I will say $70 is reasonable. Not bad for a cardigan? There's like appliquees, they're stitching. I'm sure the fabric is of decent quality. Like she could have really like milked you suckers, I mean Swifties for all their worth. And like I feel like that showed a little bit of restraint. A little bit of restraint. I'm glad Holden got the cardigan.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I want him to have the cardigan. Yeah. So I guess we want him to have the cardigan except he's going to lord the cardigan over. us in some kind of way that technically doesn't like I don't care I don't want the cardigan. You know at the screenings
Starting point is 00:34:14 there's going to be like a starbellied sneech like hierarchy in that deal between the cardigans and the non-gartenes you are so so right Jake it is going to be especially in L.A.
Starting point is 00:34:27 at L.A. AMC of like who showed up in the cardigan and who doesn't have the cardigan I'm already annoyed and it's not even for weeks And this is what happens. Sometimes I get, you know, wrapped up in the McNeely charm. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's something. It's a force. Sweat. It's wet. Yeah. It is definitely. Yeah, I mean, sweat. No, but it is, yeah, it is sweat.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, it's a wet feeling of love. I'm happy for, you know, we. It's a wet feeling of love. I don't know if it's a wet feeling of love, MJ. Not to lionize your former co-host, but I will say, one of Holden's greatest gifts is an ability to commit to the bit in a way that is so full body and soul that you just want to get in on the bit as well. But he is still mad at you, Jake, because last, a couple of times ago when you were on page seven, you implied, you suggested that his interest in Taylor Swift began as a bit. And he insists that it was completely genuine and that that is a mischaracterization.
Starting point is 00:35:33 But, I mean, you know, it's... How do you feel about this, chick? How do you? Uh-oh. You have so many thoughts, and I can see them all running across your face like Forrest Gump. In the interests of maintaining the K-Fabe, I stand corrected. Okay. Holding has never once started...
Starting point is 00:35:51 He definitely didn't start liking Taylor Swift at the exact moment she was persona non-grada. Okay. As a silly bit. Okay. Only to be seduced by her, like, lean into... By her commitment to the... bit with the fucking snake queen shit afterwards. Yeah, he says it's the snake.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's the snake, which is still kind of funny because Lexi, his wife, is truly terrified of any kind of snake. And I think it is kind of fun that that's what he got snake charmed by Tay. I know we need to put a pin and talk about Tay because Holden is actually not here. But I did want to bring up Robert Irwin because we went a little crazy for Robert Irwin last week. You know, there was a couple other things going on last week, Jake, and maybe MJ also had COVID and we just, you know, we kind of got lost in talking about dancing with the stars. Has MJ apologized? MJ, if you apologized for having COVID and still working through it?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, I feel like I did actually apologize to a lot of people last week for ever. You did. I'm sure you did. I apologize to you, Jackie. Yes, you did. Because I did give it to you, although I should be apologizing to you, because I did give it to them through the computer. So it was, I don't know how. As long as you're taking responsibility for the things that were your fault. It's good to hear. I was just, I was also, I was just about to say, like, you know, even though there's, you know, all the taste stuff is happening, I was like, I feel like she hasn't been dominating
Starting point is 00:37:10 the news cycle, but then I remembered it's because other, other more horrifying things have been dominating the news cycle. Yeah, like Robert Irwin and his puppy interview. Yes, we're talking about his puppy interview. We are talking about Robert Irwin. So he came out the gate on Dancing with the Stars last week. MJ and I had never seen an episode about Dancing with the Stars. We have never, we knew nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:31 We are going in blind. I had watched the children's version, FYI. I had watched the children's dancing with the stars. And I would never in a million years watch the children's version of a dancing show. But I'm very happy for you that you found fun in it. But so we're all new to it. The reason why we're new to it is because this season has Robert Irwin. It has Corey Feldman.
Starting point is 00:37:52 It has Andy Richter. It has two people from the secret lives of Mormon wives. and they are now going to be competing against each other the entire time. It's got Daniel Fischel. They can't be sister contestants? They cannot be sister contestants. They're not that kind of Mormon wife, Jake. No, they are not.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Sister wives, they're enemy wives. Also, most or least importantly, Eladia, Baldwin is also on this season. Jesus Christ. So we had to check it out. And I want to say thank you to everybody that told us to check it out. We did immediately start enjoying it. But Robert Irwin came out of the gate with a delightful. I don't know if he watched any of Robert Irwin, which is Steve Irwin's son, who is, like, taken on his helm.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Wait, he's Bindy Irwin's brother? Yeah? Holy shit. I know. Crazy. Wait, did you really not know that? No, I did. I mean, I, obviously, I watched the puppy interview he sent me.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And I was like, who's this Robert Irwin guy? And then as soon as I saw, I heard his accent and saw his khaki outfit, I was like, oh. And his face. This is a crock of child. And he's wonderful. He is a car. urban copy of his dad. But yes, he is so wonderful.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And the puppy interview, I watched it with both of my children, and which was great. Highly recommend watching the puppy interview with your children. He's just a delight. He's just a little ball of delight. And also what I love. He loves animals so much. And you know how I feel about siblings. Like he and Bindy are like now working to continue this, like, all of the work that
Starting point is 00:39:23 see, and like they've been working, you know, nonstop. I mean, you know, also Steve Irwood's wife. they just kept going. I feel like Bindy was like just on TV, like within a year of Steve Irwin, like she just took up the mantle and they just like ran with it. Well, her, definitely his wife did
Starting point is 00:39:38 because I don't know how little the kids were because I know that like Robert Irwin was like a toddler. He was two. Yeah. Yeah. And so this is him also like trying to also connect with his father in a way that he never has.
Starting point is 00:39:52 But I will say I cried and cry. when Bindy got married and her brother walked her down the aisle, I had seen all, and like, his, like, her mom had said, like, he looked just like Steve walking down. And I'm just like, ah, then he had her brother to want. And I'm just lost. Like, I'm obsessed. And I'm not, not in a creepy way. Like, I really just like, I love their family.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm just so happy that they're still, like, you know, moving forward and being positive. and I think that it is something that we all, we just need something bright. Well, it's right now. He's so good at, he's really, he has like a politician's messaging. Like throughout this BuzzFeed puppy interview, which is, you know, something they do, the puppy interviews are super cute. And of course, he loves animals. So he's like, usually I'm with a crook.
Starting point is 00:40:42 This will be more fun. And it's like so sweet. But his messaging is just every single question he's like, what I care most about is conservation. So they're like, what, what celebrities do you like the best that he's? He's like the ones who donate to conservation. Conservation. It is all. How do you spend time with your niece, Bindy's daughter?
Starting point is 00:41:01 And he's like, we spend time at the conservation zoo that we run. He just is obsessed with, with, you know, protecting animals and protecting the natural world. And it is, and he said the same thing in his dancing with the stars pre thing. He's just like, I will dance because it looks fun and I will spread my message of conservation and protecting wildlife. And it's so sweet. and he's like, this is the first time I've ever seen somebody say, I grew up on camera and and have it like not be sad. You know, he was like, he was like, I was two when my dad died and all of my time with him
Starting point is 00:41:38 was during the show, Crocodile Hunter, so it's captured on camera. And he's like, I'm so glad it was. And then we continued to be on camera because there was a show with the mom and the two kids, crikey, the Irwins, I think it was called. Yes. And that's something like that, yeah. And so, and then he's, you know, continued, obviously. he and Bindy have both continued to be these public figures.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And it was just like, he was like, I've spent my entire life on camera. But because he's like doing it with this greater cause, maybe, I'm not sure why it's not upsetting and creepy, but it's just moving. He's like, I just want to continue my dad's work of protecting the natural world. And I will use my platform to do so. I was like, okay, buddy. I kind of found him a little too good to be true. I like, I'm a little wary because, like, he is carrying that, like, that raw, like, wonderful, like,
Starting point is 00:42:22 bravery but like joyful enthusiasm of his dad so perfectly in a way that like obviously I'm in a stage right now of my life where I'm incredibly nostalgic for the crocodile hunter for that era of television for just like a world where environmental conservation was just a agreed upon a value that was universally celebrated instead of like a thing you have to argue about at Thanksgiving now right um and you know he has this like perfect like soft uh gen z kind of like attractiveness to him. The fact that his dad, like, his life is defined by his father's tragic death, that he was raised on camera and seems not just like well adjusted, but like refined to a razor sharp
Starting point is 00:43:07 point. Like he's like the Zoran Mamdani of animals. He is the Zoran Mandani of the natural world. And that's, no, Jake, sometimes good things can happen two times. Did you get a little Bernie like this? A little bit. Bernie Sanders, Zoran, Mom Dani, and Robert Irwin.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I agree with you that he does give Too Good to be true in a way, but I refuse to believe that it's not sincere. He just emanates sincerity. And I think you're right. I think it was because his life has been shaped by this, God, my kids were like, so what happened to his dad?
Starting point is 00:43:41 And I was like, oh, no. Oh, God. Dr. Becky says, if they're old enough to ask the question, they're old enough to get the answer. But does that apply to a sting right through the heart? I don't know. Yeah, did you tell them how it, Hearsed his heart.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I didn't say that. I said he was, I said he liked to be next to dangerous animals and he was killed by a dangerous animal. Well, now we're getting into grizzly man territory. We know it's not the same. I'm not going to show them a Werner Herzog. I'm not going to show them Werner Herzog until they're older, okay. And good instincts to like not say the exact method because you still want to take them
Starting point is 00:44:16 to the petting tank at the aquarium. We don't want to like mess them up. We had a membership at the aquarium and one of them is already scared to stingrays, so I don't need to go into detail. Oh, God. Is it their little mouths? Is it the flat mouths? Because I feel like the flat mouths always kind of scared me. Oh, I think it's the big pointer, Jackie. I think it's the
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's the sting. It's the stabbler. That is scary. Yeah, I guess that's scary. I've always been like, there's nothing scary about stingrays. And now I'm like, let me introduce you to Steve Irwin. You'll get there someday. And you know what, they'll have to understand. This is a, you know, I don't think that he was
Starting point is 00:44:48 upset with how he died. That's the thing. That was why I felt comfortable telling them because I was just I he died as he lived you know oh just amazingly but also we're dying as we list it's time for the list oh who's on the list me it's jackey got to have that list do you jacky real talk yeah how bad do you do you have to have this list um I got to have it I mean you're in control of your own life like you don't have to like the list doesn't control I'm nothing without the list all I am is that the list, Jake. What was I
Starting point is 00:45:24 before the list? And what will I be after? I can't believe we didn't even have time to talk about Matthew McConaughey saying that you got to get a queen size bed to save your marriage. Bro, I'm throwing out there. I am in a queen size bed and I will say we are on top of each other. You know, it really does make you press up against each other, especially when your
Starting point is 00:45:39 husband's going through a bulking phase. So I will say there's not a lot of room in the bed. And maybe this is why. Maybe this is why we're doing so great. Nope. It's no greater sign of love than having to physically swim across an ocean of memory foam to get to your lovely
Starting point is 00:45:56 wife who is starfished all arms and likes to Kimbo radiating body heat with abandon Yeah but at the same time then I feel like when we are in a king size bed when we're I like have to I'm like where are you Where have you gone so I do understand What Matthew McCona is saying
Starting point is 00:46:13 But I do also I mean I'm not Living with a Starfish you know I don't I'm a curl up I'm a nestler you know Yeah MJ, how big's your bed? I've got a kid. I always wanted a king bed.
Starting point is 00:46:26 We got one a couple of years ago. And then when I read this McConaugay headline, I was like, I think he might be right. I do miss my husband. I felt this way when I was pregnant too because I felt like my pregnant belly, like physically separated me from him. Yeah. You know, and then I had a pregnancy pillow, which he felt was like my new husband. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And then we got the king size bed. And so now I'm like, where are you? I live alone, you know? So it's... Yeah, you have to, like, roll multiple times to find them. I know. I know. But no, don't worry. We're not dealing with that.
Starting point is 00:46:58 We're not talking about the loneliness of the bed. We're talking about the list. Terrible co-stars whose bad onset behavior range from petulant to genuinely illegal. Genuinely illegal. Yeah, in some instances. Now, some of them, you know, they just really didn't like each other. Like, Julianna Marley-Ley-Leyes and Archie Punjabi on The Good Wife, apparently they got to a point where they wouldn't even film...
Starting point is 00:47:20 film scenes together. Oh, we've seen the edits. You know, and it's like, yes, and they're just kind of like placed next to each other in, I guess like in their final scene together. It literally you could see that they were not in the same room having this final scene. Oh, I missed this drama. That's fun. Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, this is also Paulie Perrette and Mark Harmon, also the same on NCIS. Their feud started after Harmon brought his dog to the set and it attacked a crew member requiring them to get 16 stitches. He then continued to bring his dog. on the set, which Perrette was unsurprisingly not a fan of. Was Perrette the goth girl?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yes, the hot goth girl. Even though the show was on for like 20 years long after anybody was like loud by a goth girl. Yes, because honestly, I used to be sent out for all of those tech bitch roles. I was said like it was that if you had any, it's like if you had a tattoo or if you could look like a goth person, you went out for them. But all of the auditions were so technical. You had to say all the big words and you had to know all the, I can't even make up big words.
Starting point is 00:48:25 You should have called me. I would have like serenosaicque. You're like, say that you're bypassing the date, the nanogate. But I keep putting on a bigger and bigger nose and you're like, it's not about the nose. You just got to put the nose off. I know the exact look you mean. You got to put on like a beanie and like a thick pair of glasses, you know. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And then just little bitchy. And then you're like a sassy tech bitch. I've never. somehow, despite my complete love of police procedurals, I have never once seen an episode of NCIS. No, if I could, I would go back in time and, like, arrange for you to physically beat up the actress who plays Garcia on criminal minds. I don't want to beat her up, though. I just want her to look at me and be intimidated and to just give it to me.
Starting point is 00:49:10 We can do, like, a showgirls thing where, like, you just push her down the stairs when no one's looking. Okay. Showgirls reference. Okay. I have been waiting for my showgirls moment. Thank you for opening this door. Your rival down the stakes.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yes, I am really. And then have a horrible sex and Kyle McLaughlin. There's a number of showgirls moments we could be referencing. I do have a nemesis in choir. So don't say this. Don't say this, Jake. Is it Gina Gersh. No, I, oh, God, I'd never be your nemesis.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I'd say, baby, how do we work this out? Man, Gina Gershaw still's got a fucking, ooh, vice grip on me. But she doesn't have a vice grip. I don't think on Shialabuff or Alec. Baldwin, they had so much tension while rehearsing for the 2013 Broadway show Orphans that LeBuff was actually replaced by Ben Foster. It turns out this tension was intentional on LeBuff's part. The noted method actor attempted to scare Alec Baldwin during rehearsals, saying later, my whole goal was to intimidate the fuck out of Baldwin. I was trying to take my mind off the play,
Starting point is 00:50:15 but I couldn't do it. So I would follow him from rehearsals. to his home, and then he said, I needed to have closure. I can't, okay. I'm against Alec Baldwin most of the time. You know, I think I have the... Yeah, no, this is a real, who do you say? It's like...
Starting point is 00:50:30 But you don't follow him home after... I am like so done with method acting. So done. Yes. Except for Jeremy Strong, I'm fine with it because, you know, Kendall Roy is... I guess, but then you hear Brian Cox be like, what a fucking pansy!
Starting point is 00:50:44 Just read the goddamn lies! Like, okay, I end, like, in the... 1940s and 50s, yeah, yeah, yeah, the war, patriarchy, like, yeah, like, actually emoting was, like, forbidden, like, it was some young adult novel called, like, no-no-feeling or whatever, like, and you needed to go that crazy to actually get somebody to give a believable performance. But, like, we don't need this anymore.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Just pretend, just do pretend. Like, anybody else, you don't have to terrorize anybody. You don't have to, like, pretend to be. This isn't the birds. Like, we're fine. You can get it in other ways now. There's so many ways that we can act it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:51:21 This is that crazy. You can almost, it's almost like you act. Well, I guess, or sometimes you're just there to be scared, like Charlize Theron revealed, that her feud with Mad Max co-star Tom Hardy got so bad. She asked for extra security on set. Jesus. Camera operator Mark Golnick said this happened after Hardy arrived three hours late to set, and Throne started swearing her head off at him, leading Hardy to charging.
Starting point is 00:51:47 up at her saying, what did you say to me in a quite aggressive manner? And Theron had a producer with her for the rest of the shoot. That's, like, get up, fuck. I mean, you shouldn't be cursed at for being late, but I'm assuming that this was probably a straw that may have broken a Campbell's back, a Charlize's back, maybe. Because I can't imagine being pushed to that level, like, for tensions to be that high just because he was late one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And it does seem like Tom Hardy has aggressed towards people often in the past. If you go on to the nerd of mouth feed, you can get the entire Wizard and the Bruiser archives, which was our kind of research-based, topic-based show. And we did a Mad Max episode and a Fury Road episode. And it was an incredibly fraught production to multiple delays, multiple relocations, long hours, insane stunt work, insane setups.
Starting point is 00:52:45 the studio was constantly like pinching pennies and like reducing the amount of time they had to rehearse and the fact that a movie as flawless as Fury Road came for that process is nothing short of a miracle. And because it's such a good movie. It's such a good movie.
Starting point is 00:53:01 One of those movies I've seen so many times that is definitely like if I see it on a flight I'll probably throw it on. Like I can watch it almost any time and it makes me so sad that it was so fraught and especially for Charlie's room No, she has so much trauma. I just want to take her and hold her against me.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And then she'll look up at me and be like, and you? And then like we kiss. And it just gets, I got lost in it. But you know, Bill Murray's a bad person in case you were wondering. Yeah, we knew this. But if you didn't know the actual stories, Lucy Lou and Bill Murray were not exactly friends on the set of Charlie's Angels. After years of rumors that Marie had been cruel to Lou on set, Lou finally called him out for his behavior in 2021, describing an onset incident. She said, as we're doing the scene, Bill starts to sort of hurl insults, and I won't get into the specifics, but it kept going on and on.
Starting point is 00:53:50 And I was like, wow, he seems like he's looking straight at me. I couldn't believe that the comments could be towards me, because what do I have to do with anything majorly important at that time? And I guess he was really coming after her. And she says, I literally do the look around my shoulder thing, like, who is he talking to behind me? I say, I'm so sorry, are you talking to me? And clearly he was, because then it started to become a one-on-one con-one, communication. She said some of the language was inexcusable and unacceptable and I was not going to just sit there and take it. So yes, I stood up for myself and I don't regret it.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Because no matter how low on the totem pole you may be or wherever you come from, there's no need to condescend or to put other people down and I would not stand down and nor should I have. Fuck yeah, Lucy Lou, but it also did make it more difficult for her to continue getting work. Oh, man. And it's like, and another one, speaking of Murray, Gina Davis accused him of making her lie in a bed while he used a massage device on her while they were co-starring in quick change together, despite her saying no multiple times. She also said he verbally berated many in the cast and crew, including Davis herself. She also discussed inappropriate behavior during the press tour for the film as well.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I just want to throw it out there, you know, I'm still, I love Ghostbusters. I love Vankman, but we, you know, there is a separation of the art and the artist, and we have to remember, he still keeps getting hired. I just saw that fucking Sean Penn is in the new Leonardo Gabri movie. And I was in the movie yesterday. It was just like, why is he still being cast? Yeah. What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:55:21 Why is this still happening in this day and age? Guys, can we not? Yeah. I mean, if there was a bunch of viral, like, epic Sean Penn memes around the 2000s internet, maybe I would understand. But yeah, no, Sean Penn is notoriously a shithead with like very little. Unambiguous with Sean Penn. And it's also unambiguous with Bill Murray, but for some reason,
Starting point is 00:55:43 Murray is just like, he's like, he's like the one man who can't get me to no matter how many stories come out. He's just like, I won't respond and I won't acknowledge it. And I'm just going to keep on plowing through. It's like, I mean, he's not the one man. Many men have been impervious to the allegations. So I apologize for that. But he just, it seems like with him specifically, there's just like hundreds, hundreds of stories about him.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And he's, he's still trucking, man. He's just keeping on going. He's just keeping on going. it on, keep it on. And unfortunately, one of a show that I started watching not that long ago that eventually now I really love it, community. Talk about Bill Murray. You got to bring up
Starting point is 00:56:20 Chevy Chase. And Jevy Chase is also another one that is notoriously horrible. And this is in 2012. He's on a hit comedy show and he used a racial slur on set. And he said when he left the show, he's like, no, I left because it wasn't that funny.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And that's why he left the show. But there was a lot of on-set tension, at least, especially with co-star Donald Glover. And according to Glover, Chase often would make racist jokes to him on set or ribbon with comments like, people think you're funnier because you're black. Jesus crazy. Awesome. Why do we still have him around?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Why do we still give money? Why do we still, like, it is just one of those that you just yell it into the ether and just go, why? And then you continue on, keep it on, keep it on. read it on a list just to remind everybody. Yeah, I know. The Chevy Chase thing, and that's also, I mean, that was like such a, it was like an open secret and then just an open, not secret.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And yeah, I don't know, again, I don't know. I understand Chevy Chase, Bill Murray, both have great, great catalog of films to their names. Does not mean that they should be, you know, bulletproof when it comes to the Gations. No. No, really shouldn't. But, you know. Guys, that's why we bring it up.
Starting point is 00:57:42 That's why we remind each other. And that's why when I saw Sean Penn in that movie, I was like, fuck you. I'm not seeing this movie. I'm saying this aloud in the movie theater to no one but myself. I mean, it's, it's, it's, uh, Sean Penn, uh, in a Leonardo DiCaprio movie. Like, it's just, it's, it's, I'm gonna, it's, I'm just gonna say, um, I feel like we should live in a society where, uh, fame and money, uh, should not shield you from the agreed upon values that our society holds, thus enabling even those who could abuse their power to not do so,
Starting point is 00:58:21 but that would require actually enforcing our values as a society on people with money and power. Right. Ooh, that's a tough one. And that's the thing, because it's like this movie, one battle after another, it's a P.T. Anderson movie. I want to see it. Like, the trailer looks good, but now I will not give it money, and I'm just going to wait until it's somewhere where I can watch it. for free. I will. I'm not giving Sean Ben any money. We have to have
Starting point is 00:58:44 some boundaries. All right. I have to. I don't want to look at him. Jackie, MJ, and producer Adam, I know you're listening as well. Listen, we have this studio. We have, we pay for like corporate internet. We have
Starting point is 00:59:00 lots of computers. We pay for a lot of servers for all these audio and video files. Clearly, we got to do an LPN, like what's it called a Plex server? We just got to pirate all of our shit. Yes. Everybody gets in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And we just like stream and steal and just do massive copyright fraud as a community. This is a joke. This is a joke. Attention. To the federal crimes that Jake is describing. Now I feel like I'm in the long walk in Jay. Don't do this to me. And slap him.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah. I hear what you're saying. Slap him. That's not a joke. And Bob Cheapick Double slacks Whoa Maybe with a back of the hand
Starting point is 00:59:47 You know So not that we're saying We're enlisting any kind of violence What I will say is that we are Listeners absolutely already got a Plex server And they could just look at You could just share Send a Plex server
Starting point is 00:59:59 Because we want a select server over here You're like the tech girl from NCIS I don't even know what you talk about it We need you Yes And so we need you Jake So maybe you can bring this to all of us because, you know, we got to get a little more untethered. We got to hit them where it hurts, everybody, and that's not right here.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I didn't. I was going to punch Jake in the stomach, and I didn't. You aimed lower, and I thought I was like, am I back in sixth grade? Am I about to get nuttapped by Jackie? No, no, I was coming. I was giving up. It was a Fremunda chief. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:33 That's how Jackie got added to this very list. She'd nuttaxed me. Oh, you want to put me on the list? No, I just want to be just like Cardi B when she threw the pen at the person outside of her physical assault trial and yelled at the person, which, God, yes. All right, Cardi. Respect women. Respect women. Or else. I mean, that's what she, I think that is what she yelled as she threw the pen at the person because they were asking not very nice questions and she didn't fucking like it.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Okay. But that's a list. But that's a list. Yeah. A hole in my pocket, Jackie. You're done? Let's see. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Empty those pockets. All right. I think I'm going. Blind. items. Ah, we can't see them. I'm so excited to read this. I can't even speak.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Our bubbly A-list actress is gearing up to say good morning and goodbye to her splashy streaming drama. You might be able to guess what good morning streaming drama show is. This season is rumored to be her last in front of the camera, but she's not going to slip away quietly. She's planning a full force award season takeover for next year, complete with top PR teams and the kind of campaigning that makes voters dizzy. The sudden push is, well, despite all the hype, she hasn't managed to snag a single major award for this show in years.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And apparently that doesn't sit well with her. Word is she wants to go out with a bang and finally add some shiny statues to her shelf before she goes to focus on her other show, where she already has a lot of competition, and she fears she has no chance against her other very A-list co-stars. Okay, so we are talking about a beloved actress. Reese Witherspoon. Ah, you already know. How do you know? Oh, that Apple TV show she's on.
Starting point is 01:02:21 That Apple TV show she's on. I was going to say Kelly Ripper, but then you said beloved actress. Oh, yeah. She's not, I don't know if Kelly Rippa's his beloved, but yeah, there's been a lot of... Well, tolerated's figure. She, there's been a lot of talk of Reese Sper, Spoon, and she, there's been a lot of talk of Reese Spoon. Jen Aniston in the news right now.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Like, because Jennifer Anderson just found out that Reese Witherspoon's real name is Laura. And she referred to herself as Laura Jean. She's like, well, my middle name is Jean. And Jennifer Anderson was like, who's Laura? And she's like, me. That's my real name. She's like, Reese is a stage name. And Jennifer Anderson has known her for a million years.
Starting point is 01:02:58 They've been doing this show for a million years. Didn't know what her first real name was. And Jennifer Anderson, like, I liked it because the internet was heralding Jennifer Aniston because she's so not online. Like it's like, oh, we should all bow down to Jen Aniston because she's not online and she wouldn't know that. But I will also throw it out there. I think a lot of people that are chronically online also don't know or care about
Starting point is 01:03:20 Reese Witherspoon's first name. But please continue, MJ. Well, so, yeah, she's trying to get prestige for herself, which, and this tracks with a story that we did not get to today, but that we'll probably get to on second helpings about Reese Witherspoon's ambitions for her, like, serious acting career. But I just thought it was real juicy that she's going to join. Do you know the other show? No.
Starting point is 01:03:43 She's going to focus on. And the list of A-list co-stars who she's going to have a hard time competing with. Is it more big little lives? It is more big little lies. I mean, that's it. Jake is terrified. I am. You'll kill for that show.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I'm so troubled. I'll kill for me and Mori or not. I'll do anything. Give us the summer book. I feel like I'm like back trapped in a car with you guys in the middle of the backroads of Missouri. Hungover and me trying to not throw up on a bridge. Yeah, that was that. Big little lies.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I feel like Reese totally held her own in big little lies. If anyone has to be worried of big little lies, it's weirdie, weirdie, shaleen Woodley. Whoa, throwing it down, man. I mean, she's a great actor, but she's got weird. She survived cancer. How dare you call her weirdly? Shaving Woodley did? That was a joke about falling our stars.
Starting point is 01:04:40 That was the... Faulted our stars. Faulted our stars. I didn't hear that about her. That's another book I have read. But what did she... I don't even remember what she did. I just remember I put her on my weirdy list.
Starting point is 01:04:53 She's been... Yeah, there's been some weirdy things. Weirdly politics. But whatever. Yeah, I think Reese is going to be fine. I think people respect Reese Smith as a serious actress. Yes. She doesn't have any awards, I guess.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Also, it's like even cruel intentions. Like, she killed it and cruel intentions. I feel like that's the kind of thing that, like, even though that was not so much like a bad bitch kind of character, I know that she can. And she was great in Big Little Lies at all. No, I'm so sorry. Maybe now that you're in L.A. babe. Maybe you might. Oh, I mean, by the end of this recording, I will have been successfully bullied into watching it.
Starting point is 01:05:32 At least the first season, the first season. Laura Dern. Okay. And she's a pot. Do you love, like, stories about, like, high-powered bitches, you know? Like, do you love stories about how, like, moms are bitches? I always say, me, I'm like, oh, Jake over here? Jake loves bitches.
Starting point is 01:05:52 He's always screaming about bitches. I mean, I was, you know, I grew up with several outspoken women in my life. I have nothing but respect. Not going to say bitches? No, I dare not. Okay, yeah, yeah. They told me directly that's not how they would like to be. too.
Starting point is 01:06:07 You could call me a bitch whenever you want. I'm more of like, wouldn't be cool if a robot had laser boots. That's more where my... I mean, it would be. It would be scary if the robot's against you. Oh, no, I don't like that. I like it when he just is like, yay. And like, let me help people.
Starting point is 01:06:22 So like bicentennial man, but with lasers on his feet? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my body. I can walk with that. Yeah, my husband also doesn't live for big little lies. He also lives for stories about robots. So I understand. But I like that one.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Big Little Lies, the soundtrack is so good. It's just, Big Little Lies, the first season came out when I was possibly the saddest in my life. And I clung to it. You know, you ever have one of those shows where it's like, it was my life raft for being alive for a little bit? And I think that we've all been there before. So I feel like I don't know if you going back, because it is more, it's a northern California. so it's not, it's not necessarily an LA show per se. But I would throw it out there.
Starting point is 01:07:09 LA shows, I do, everybody keeps saying that I need to, when Severance comes back, bring back my Apple TV, because I quit my Apple TV because I refuse to pay for all of them. Bring it back, watch Severance real fast, but then also I apparently need to watch the morning show. And apparently I also need to watch. What was the other thing that you want me to watch? Not foundation.
Starting point is 01:07:31 No, although everybody keeps talking. about foundation. Not foundation. Weirdly enough, I feel like the production staff in the studio is evenly split. I've heard many foundation boosters while Adam is thumbs down. We're giving thumbs down. I was thinking of the studio. That was a studio that is very L.A.
Starting point is 01:07:54 that you might want to get into because it did win a bunch of Emmys. And I only watched the first two episodes and I forgot about it. So I need to circle back. But they were really good. Yes. Okay, blind number two. Serve MJ and Jackie your Plex server password. You loyal subjects of page seven.
Starting point is 01:08:10 They're flailing out here. That's too many streaming services. There's just, listen, they'll give you a lifetime Patreon pass. If you just like let them steal your already stolen content. Just do it. Let us steal it. I think it's better for all of us if we're getting it just, if we're getting it legally. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I, okay, blind number two. I still don't know what a Plex serve is, and I'm going to stay ignorant. Don't wait. No, we're going to ask. We're going to ask questions after a. The A-Minus List actress keeps trying to pretend she and her former co-star were friends. She hated her when they were working together because the now-dead co-star would constantly blabbed to tabloids and bosses and anyone else about the A-minus list actress. All right, so this is a bit of a saddie.
Starting point is 01:08:58 We're not talking about the same people, are we? We are not talking about the same people. A minus list actress. She's always described as A minus, and I always kind of roll my eyes at that a little bit. This girl is controversial, and she's in the news. And her co-star is sadly... Euphoria. Zendaya.
Starting point is 01:09:18 No. No. We don't like this person as much as we like Zendaya. But that person has passed? The person that we don't like has passed? No, no. We like the person who died. The person who's alive.
Starting point is 01:09:29 We don't like. The person's live we don't like. Okay. So we're talking to people. The A minus list actress is still alive and her co-star has very tragically passed in the last, about in the last year. And apparently she was always blabbing about the various controversies surrounding this A-minus list actress. Oh, she's riddled with controversies. She's making cocktails in a can.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Okay. She's making lawsuits. Oh, Blake Live. Yes. That's why we always get angry at the A minus list. A minus. She's not. She's not a minus list. She's not an A minus list actress. Give me a break. But she's married to A plus. So like doesn't that like even out? It averages out. I would say then a minus recognized name. I would say like I would feel her name is at A minus status. But I wouldn't say her acting chops are at A minus status. Or even her credits. Yeah, and man, there's a word on the street that we are all watching the Ryan Reynolds downfall. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah, I'll keep you guys abreast of that. Everyone thinks he's finally been driven mad by her, according to the blinds. But who is the dearly departed actress who was always talking shit about Blake lively? I was talking shit about Blake lively. I didn't realize famous people could die. I know. I'll give you a hint, Jackie, and it is Buffy Season 5. Oh, Michelle Tractenberg?
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah, she loved to talk shit. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly loving to talk shit about Blake lively, and that makes me love her even more, you know? I think that's kind of fun. Oh, rips. Rips go out, man.
Starting point is 01:11:11 So young. So young. All right. Blind number three. This is just a silly one. The foreign-born celebrity offspring of a permanent A-lister sure does Coke, just like her mom. And hot. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Oh, all right. Well, yeah, they're all right. It's a Coke-doing family. Hell yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I just thought this is so. I don't, and you don't have to know the name of the child or the aunt. Just guess the celebrity, the main celebrity in question. So it is, so it is a parent. So they are nepo baby that's doing the Coke. It's a nepo baby that's doing the Coke. I don't think any of a, I mean, maybe people know this person. Like, I don't think she's a household name. No. The mom is a household name. And I will give you a hint that will. give it away. But I feel like for some reason we had a blind about this person. Last time Jake was on the show, I'm not sure. We had a blind order recently. And the hint is that she is just so famous for saying, like, the worst thing you could ever say about weight loss.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Oh, goop. No, no. But, okay, so it's a lot of competition. Maybe that doesn't narrow it down. She has, like, one sentence that launched millions of girls into. disordered eating. Oh, nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. That's the one. Oh. Who said that? Who said that? Kate Moss. Oh, I didn't realize that was a Kate Moss quote. Isn't it? Last time I was on, it was that Kate Moss was
Starting point is 01:12:41 was stealing the daughter's boyfriends. Wow. How do you remember that? It was you. How could I remember the sexual incesting treat? Yeah, weird. It's such a, it leaves no impact. It immediately leaves my brain. I don't remember anything. What could I? possibly remember about supermodel of incest injury. Yeah, I guess it kind of sticks in your brain. Yes, and I remember last time I, you also were like, that was Kate Moss and I quick panicked. Didn't, wasn't that Kate Moss? Wasn't that?
Starting point is 01:13:12 And just like I just did. And yes, it was her. And again, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my brain. Also, French toast actually does taste better than skinny feels. That quote is alive. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're damn right. A crope madame.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Oh, my God. Honestly, just a straight up like Belgian waffle with a bunch of bottle, a bunch of Oh, shit. No, she's gone Cajun. Yeah, man, I need it. Uh-oh, it's all the Sooky Stackhouse I've been reading. And also, I'm sorry for you, Kate Boss, that you've never eaten anything that is not as good as Skinny Feels because I hate to break it to you.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I've eaten quite a lot. That is a lot tastier than Skinny feels. An Oreo that's been left out in the break room just a little too long. Still, that's better. Are you talking about my Reese's pieces of Oreos that I left up in the kitchen last time? Maybe. Yeah, they weren't, that's good, but I will say the cups, the peanut butter cups with the Oreos, like that. Very good.
Starting point is 01:14:04 That's how we should start ranking Jackie's munchies. Did these taste as good as skinny feels? On the case ma scale. Honestly, I kind of love that because I realized, Holden even said he's like, you should start asking everyone because whenever I have extra, I like to leave Jackie Snackies in the office for everybody to try. And Holden's like, you should really write down like or ask people what they think. Yeah, I'm like to write out what out of what. It was like, you write, I do need a ranking system. Oh, yeah, that would be fun to a ranking system.
Starting point is 01:14:32 As close to skinny feels, how good does this taste? I'm excited because I feel like that needs to be added into the Jackie Snacky's theme song in some capacity. I just don't know how. And that tastes as good as skinny feels. Except these snackies. Is it these Snackys? Are you back to the land of the seeing? I can.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I can see again. Welcome back. It is a miracle. And I, you know, I know that we're getting, I had so many snacks to share with you, Jake. But we're also getting late in the episode. So I know that we've got to wrap this up here. So I'm just going to choose one. Well, I'm going to choose two.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. Snacky. I've been a snacky.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Snacky. Snacky, snacky. Is somebody going to eat those chips? Is somebody going to dip those dips? Is somebody going to try those candies? I got seminar. I say, I'm a snack lead. I want to say thank you so much to Amberry from our chat,
Starting point is 01:15:37 who had sent in some wonderful Asian treats for us to try. And I got excited because I knew that you were a fan. Oh, I am an absolute core for H-Mart. I'm just going to say that right now. Oh, yeah, you must be so happy. I am in the promise land. Yes. Now, I will, I guess I'll give you an option.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Now, I'm going to throw this out there. This is not from Amberry. This I got from Costco and I was just intrigued, but I have so many of them. I thought maybe you'd want to get into it. Have you ever had a Rambutan? They're like, yes, I have had a Rambuton. Really? Well, I'm sorry, you might have to have a Rambuton again.
Starting point is 01:16:13 It's like a light-ee kind of thing, right? It is a bit of a light-chi, and I have never seen them. The Earth is like fuzzy, but like not the way a... It looks like an alien. It looks like the outside of... No, it looks like the spiky things that, like, fall out of oak, not oak trees, maple trees? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, the little circle things that fall down that have, like, seed pod. I think there are seed pods.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And it looks a lot like that, but I did look up how to eat them, and it's kind of like pushing a ball out of a ball sack. The sensation we're all familiar with it. Yeah, and I think that everybody... Thank you for laying that perfect. feel like this, I would assume that that's what it is. And I didn't know if you wanted to try it. But I am a little scared to squeeze it out like it's a ball sack. Now, you're supposed to cut one side of it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Jesus Christ, you got a scissors the size of a psycho. Oh, no, Jackie is wielding a blade right now. Is it a blade? Jackie is wielding a blade. A black chicken, a kitchen knife with gold accidents. Yes, so if you want to squirt that now, it looks like a really big eyeball. that you're squirting out. Yeah, give it a little, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to need to record this and probably put it up with the page seven over on our Instagram. And there's like a seed in the flesh, right? There is a seed in the middle and don't eat the seed.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And it's supposed to be... Wait a minute, what are these called? Rambuton. I don't know. I think I might have found some of these in my fridge last night with a label, don't eat the seeds. Whoa, with the label,
Starting point is 01:17:46 don't eat, you're not supposed to eat the seeds. I need to text my husband and find out why we have rambutans in the, in the, I just, as you were describing it, and as I was looking at it, I was like, that's the mystery fruit in my fridge. Wow. I'm inside of your fridge. What if I took it out of your fridge? I went to New York, took it out of your fridge, and brought it here this morning. These are delicious. Delicious, refreshing.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Tastes as good as being skinny feels? Oh, definitely, taste is good. But also, you know, I know that you're not always looking for the most sugar. That's why I wanted to give you these options of the two. Now, these are coming in from Ambry. This is delicious, by the way. And I think everyone should check it out if you like a Lichy. If you like, it is like more of a,
Starting point is 01:18:27 it is like a really large grape. Lichies are so weird. I'm just going to run and get these and show them to you just to prove that. Please do. Please. It's fucking Providence. It is fate. The fucking stars have aligned and it is pointed us towards Rambutans.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Now, also, Amberry, I know you weren't throwing us into the arms of Rambutans, but I did want to say thank you so much for sending in Snackies. If you want to share some Snackies with me, you can send them in. Jackie Snackies 4804 Laurel Canyon Boulevard number 378 North Hollywood, California, 916.07. I just show you guys this. I have a, I don't know. It's just a wrapped in like a paper that appeared in my fridge literally this morning with pen that says don't chew seeds. And this is it, right?
Starting point is 01:19:14 This is a rubber towel. Yes, you've got off a towel. God damn rambootes. Why is there unwrapped loose fruits? Weird. Loose fruits.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Loose exotic fruits in your phrase. Because also I got these at Costco, but there's so many rambutan. I've got so many of them now. So now, but it said don't, no, you just said don't eat the seeds. Yeah, get in there.
Starting point is 01:19:39 You got to like slice a little, and then you squeeze it out like a ball sack. I don't know. Is it out like a ball sack? You're scared of it? I just saying, I feel like it's just, you're pointing to cock and ball torture as if it was just a very accessible thing that everybody. Squeeze it out of a ball sec. I think that everyone.
Starting point is 01:19:54 They're delicious. They are delicious. They're like, like, really refreshing. So if you see these little alien fruits out there. Or if they're just like, like, you're having to be in your fridge. Or if maybe you've got kids that like like grapes, maybe they might like this. Or, you know, what a delicious fruit. And thank you for, thank you both.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Oh my God, through the computer. We're trying this together. I can't believe this. Now, this probably won't be the case. But now, Jake, I've got Skittles Cotton Candy. And then I also have this Korean spicy ramen flavor chips. Ooh, I will have to go with the Squid Game branded. The Squid Game branded.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Ramian flavored lays. And is this, I don't think this is like from Korea. Is this Chinese or Japanese? I'm not sure. But it is, I'm opening it up. And I want to say thank you so much, Amberry, and I appreciate you sharing these with us. Definitely has that, like, hit of, you know, what's it, gochigaru, like, chili flake. Ooh, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Has the, I don't know what else I'm supposed to be tasting. I'm just going to give it a shot. Oh, that looks good. Mm. Ooh. Oh, these fuck. Looks good, sounds good. These are good.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Wow. Big spice hit. Big spicy. If you're familiar with like, um, bulldoch ramen, I'd be like they're going more for a bulldog, like the extra spicy, uh, Korean ramiyan, more so than a shin or a shin black. But, but the spice is the most four things. Wow, it's spicy. An unctious, kind of chickeny, something is happening underneath, a little bit of like green
Starting point is 01:21:43 onion. Yes. But, uh, and then just like that, whatever that, whatever that, generic chip flavor flavor is. Where, like, you know, cheddar and sour cream and everything just, like, kind of like... Kind of mixed together. But, like, yeah, if you took, like, a ramen seasoning pack and then just dumped it on a bunch of potato chips, it would sound... From Taiwan.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Taiwan. Great. Nice. Thank you so much, Amber. And I will... I probably eat the Skittles Cotton Candy, I would imagine. Probably on Jack and I'll make... I'll get Holden's mouth on.
Starting point is 01:22:13 That's what this snacky section is missing, Holden's mouth. MJ, you grabbed a, was it, MJ's munches? What is the, what is yours? Yes, let's sing the song. Ooh, everything they munch. Emj's bidded munchies. Ooh, everything they munch. What are you munch?
Starting point is 01:22:32 So this one, last week I did a jacky snacky chosen by one of my children, which was the peanut butter balls. And at the same exact time, my other child was at the organic food store with my husband and saw a food that was a spicy cheese, and she said, Mama likes to eat spicy foods on Jackie's Snackies. Let's buy this for them. I love the kids. The kids are thinking about the snackies.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Honestly, that is such a fun thing to have. It makes me so happy. I had an almond mom, so this was an impossibility. Oh, yeah, yeah, you weren't getting, yeah, snackies. Or, like, yeah, mom's not eating snackies. No, we were eating snack quills, devil's food cake cookies that were just plastic. We can be cycle breakers, guys. We can not be almond moms.
Starting point is 01:23:17 You're right. My child picked out for me the hot pepper cheddar block from Vermont hot cheese. It's just cheese. I love a hyperjack. I love a spicy cheese. It is, yes. Does Zelda know that you were going after more like spicy chips? Oh, she does, yes.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Okay, so this is. You're diversifying. Yes, she makes me buy like Flamed Hot Cheetos all the time now. She's like, you love these. And I'm like, I do. I don't need to buy them all the time. While Gideon said yes that I can eat the rambutans, but I still have no explanation.
Starting point is 01:23:53 They came from a court clerk. All right. They came from the New York City Courthouse. So they gave a bunch of lucies of rambutants. Maybe they also got it at Costco and we're like, what am I going to fucking do with all these rambutans? Like, what do I do with them now? All right, here I go.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Mmm, hot cheese. Now that's a review you'll take to the bank. But does it taste better than being skinny? And you are one of the skinniest people I somehow know. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Does it taste as good?
Starting point is 01:24:27 As being skinny feels. As being skinny feels. Much better. Wow. I'm so glad. See, we are breaking cycles here in more ways than one. I would like a new cycle to begin. What would you like?
Starting point is 01:24:39 If you would like, if you may, please, please take a moment. Sometimes you got a thirst. Wow. What's good or what's the worst. The worst. A liquid treat for you and me will taste it like a family. Yes. It's a new segment on the show.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yes. If I come back, only God knows it's a thing we're going to call Jakey Slakey. Jakey Slakey Thirst. Wow. That's right. We're moving on to beverages. Wow, we're moving on to beverages. It's Jakey Slokies, and this time around, I have brought you a special summer flavor from the 99-cent kings at Arizona.
Starting point is 01:25:26 You brought one for me! This is the Arizona whipped pineapple orange. Oh, how whipped are we talking? So I'm not mistaken, they are trying to capture the ephemeral taste of the classic Disney treat, the dole whip. Oh, the doll whip, okay. On the can, you can clearly see a dough whip. Oh, yeah, you're right. Wow.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Now, does that mean they're going to try and make this creamy? Does that mean they're just, is this just going to be a canned juice cocktail? I feel like if you throw whipped on the outside of a drink, it better be criny. You've been watching too much hunting wives, Jackie. You're saying whipped way too well. Honestly, it's not that. It's the true blood. It's all the true blood.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Jackie, if you can describe the color and, like, texture of this liquid. It is definitely milky. It looks like. like milky pineapple juice. It definitely looks like a milky pineapple juice. You even brought cups? Jake,
Starting point is 01:26:20 other person is years. Jakey's slakes. I love Jakey's Slakies. I have never tasted this. I have no idea. I just desperately wanted to know. Cheers. To Jakey Slakies.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Awful. Underwhelming and awful. Too milky, not pineappily enough. It feels like somebody watered down melted jamba juice. Yes. It tastes like a dole whip.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Honestly, it is more like a not so much a dole whip. I do feel it is more in the Orange Julius category. But yes, after it had been sitting out for a long time and all of the ice had like melted into it as well because it tastes like they poured kind of milky water into a bunch of pineapple juice. Yeah, very underwhelming.
Starting point is 01:27:12 There's nothing whipped about it. I will say that. I do like that they tried to add some kind of creaminess. If you like to drink pineapple juice, you'd probably like this. But I will also throw it out there that it's not as pineapple-y as pineapple juice. So I guess if you like pineapple juice and you're like, I could have this. Then this is the drink for you. They bring out of pineapple juice, but you don't like pineapple juice.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Yeah, but like not that really, you know, then you might like this can of juice. I want my seem to taste better. but just a little. There's a little. I don't want her jones and for it. You know what I mean? I don't want nobody going after me. But this is, I, you know, I am sad because if this were really good, I would have been excited
Starting point is 01:27:57 to have been excited to my husband. Like, I know that this is definitely his kind of jams. He's a juice baby and I try not to, you know, we try not to keep a lot of juice in the house because it does, you can't be drinking a lot of juice, you know? Unless you're in steel magnolias, then you got to drink your juice. Oh, drink your juice. Drink the truth. I mean, I do also bring up Steel Magnolia a lot over on the Sookie Stackhouse books.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Oh, you got nothing good to say. Come sit by me. And I say that a lot. And sometimes it's like two pigs fatten under a blanket. And that's what I say every time I look at a big juicy ass dancing on a dance floor. I'll stop quoting Steel Magnolias. I made the episode go too long. The segment has Jackie, like, she's turning into a pumpkin in real time.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I'm turning into a whip on apple. I'm going to be scared. This happened because of the single word whip. Such Jack into a tailspin of seeing how southern she could get. It's because of the bell floors. And so the bell floors over on true blood.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And now they talk not more on this, you know. And so I feel like I've been getting a little bit more rooster with my life. And thank you. I would rather be skinny than drink this. I'm just going to say. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Okay. That's where it is. You are damn right. And yeah, I also would just say, say, get pineapple juice. If you like pineapple juice, just go get some pineapple juice. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:29:18 And thank you, Jake, for joining us. And thank you for Jakey's Slakies. I feel renewed. And I can't believe that we got the Rambutan through the entire wires. Yeah. No, I can't. I'm so shocked.
Starting point is 01:29:33 As you were describing it, I was like, that really sounds like the mystery fruit in my refrigerator right now. Crazy. Is it Rambutan season? And we had no idea. This is,
Starting point is 01:29:42 I didn't know. This is what you came. year to page seven to learn about, but I guess it's what you learned about today. Jake, would you like to plug anything else? You know, check out the brother podcast of page seven, nerd of mouth with me,
Starting point is 01:29:58 holding a comedian Mike Lawrence. We've done a bunch of really cool episodes. I think you'll love it. Check me out on Twitch, twitch.tv, TV slash puppet Jared. Hell yeah. I do a fun little stream on Thursday nights called The Cartoon Dempster where we watch weird,
Starting point is 01:30:12 bad cartoons from the 80s, 90s, in 2000s and just have a blast, just ripping it to shreds. It is a wonderful time. I feel like if you enjoyed the pop culture insanity of page seven, you might enjoy what I'm throwing down there. Thursday, 7 p.m. Eastern's Twitch.tv slash puppet Jared. I think you might like it. Yes, you will.
Starting point is 01:30:32 And thank you so much, MJ. I hope that everybody here, you know, my name is Jackie Sparowski. You can follow me on Instagram, check that worm. You can come hang out. Oh, my God. If you want to hear more southern accents from me. And I know what you do. Every Monday, Jackie's Book Club, over on the Patreon.
Starting point is 01:30:48 We've got, I am just, we're just finishing up with the second book. And I'm telling you, I'm sailing right on to the third. You can't stop me. I love this story and I can't wait to keep reading it. So come hang out with us. We've got our Buffy Tuesdays. And we've got our celebrities Wednesdays that we were talking about. We just read Enter Talking by Joan Rivers.
Starting point is 01:31:08 And next week we're going to be reading Still Talking by Joan Rivers. And so we're in a bit of a river. over here on the Patreon. River wide, river deep. Whoa, stop talking about me like that. MJ? Jake, we love it having you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Thank you, listeners. We love your emails, page 7podcast atchumel.com. Thank you to everyone for writing in. And we will see you guys tomorrow for second help. Your damn right. And also hopefully we'll see on YouTube.com slash at Who's the Bee? Thursday, Thursday. Today, if you're listening to this, the day it comes out, Thursday.
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