Page 7 - Meowy Catsmas II: Lost In New York

Episode Date: December 22, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hi, I'm Jackie Zabrowski. And I'm MJ. And I'm Holden from the page 7 podcast, and we're going on tour! That's right, we're touring all up in this motherfreak freaking country. I'm fake cursing so whatever, Jackie. Just say the filthy F word already. And we will say the filthy F word when we come to your town. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We're coming to Texas, the Midwest, the Northeast, and then right back here in Cali, baby. For ticket links and more details, visit lastpodcastnetwork.com. That's right. Lastpodcastnetwork.com. Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser present. Release the butthole cut. Wait, that's really what we're calling the tour? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Release the butthole cut. For more information, go to lastpodcast network.com. Meow, meow, meow. Stop. Stop. For was a miracle, this stop. By the end of the chat, I was scream. Yes, we did pause up.
Starting point is 00:01:26 We did pause up. I was standing and just screaming the lyrics because I just welcome, guys. I mean, I want to say welcome to episode of page 7, but I think welcome to us talking about cats. My name is Jackie Zabrowski, and I am a kitty cat. And I meow, meow, meow, meow, and I meow, meow, meow. And I am searching everywhere for Holden but McNeely's not there. Yeah, Holden. My name is Molly Neffle and this is now a cats podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:59 There's no other content all year. You can't 2020. This is rebranded. Yes. We're just going to go deep on every aspect of cats there is to discuss because I know that one hour is not going to be enough. I am flabbergasted. Every boat in my body is confused and also delighted. I'm the happiest I've ever been and I'm the saddest I've ever been.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I want to say don't listen to this if you haven't. seen cats yet. I know. Honestly, the amount that I drunkenly talked at Edward Larson of the Brider Side on last podcast network, he was like, I'm not seeing cats. I don't need to see cats. You sit next to me for 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:02:39 and I can get anyone to go see cats. I want us to do, I would even potentially consider touring with it. I want, as soon as that DVD comes out, I need for us to do live... Live cats. Cats, like in the style of Rocky horror and we'll dress like dogs like we did for my birthday.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I am so on board with this. Even honestly, let's do it every year around the holidays. Sure. Let's do a big show. Let us know, guys, if you were listening this and you would come attend this and do this because I'm serious. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:12 This has to be, we can single-handedly turn this into a Rocky Horror Picture show phenomenon. And this will be our next live approach to a show. must be watching cats because I had so much to say I was just bursting forth with it and I couldn't speak in the movie theater because other people were the movie theater but also I think we were stunned I kept looking over you just being like
Starting point is 00:03:37 yeah that's who we go Molly was like two seats over like in between us was Lexi and on my left was Brooke and poor Brooke who I think was just being sweet to come out and just was just just so
Starting point is 00:03:53 everybody Did she have no idea what she was getting into so we were talking of course about Ben Kisselva's podcast on the left lady went with them
Starting point is 00:04:03 to go see cats Yeah and We had a big group We all dressed like dogs And you know I think First of all
Starting point is 00:04:13 Let's talk about Our different audience experiences Because that was a fascinating ecosystem Really half and half People around our age clearly set to get completely hammered in a movie theater
Starting point is 00:04:26 and scream with laughter at this movie and then like older people who actually and I'm shocked to say this went in with the expectation that they were going to see a movie they were a good movie going to enjoy I feel like now this is going to be something that forever it's like that where were you when
Starting point is 00:04:43 JFK died I will always remember my first cats experience and at one point at the end End of the movie, Gideon. Holden goes, shout out to everyone in the theater who is drinking White Claw, and the row ahead of us goes, Madello! Yeah, yeah, I, we were obnoxious and we definitely ruined a lot of people's day. Yeah. But that was because we were watching it.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Shame on them. Shame on them. I will, although I will say, all right, so let me set up my experience for you guys. I went with Goff Daddy, I went with my mother, and I went with Henry and Natalie. And we went at the 1 p.m. showing the day after Christmas in white, old people, Florida. So the theater was packed, but it was also one of those, like, it was like the big recliner lay down seats. It's the nice theater. So you can't really see everybody. You can just hear everybody in the theater.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You can hear you guys being like, oh! It was, I also had other friends. I had invited a friend of mine from high school who had brought six other of my old friends that were also dispersed throughout the theater. So we were kind of everywhere, but not all together. And the problem is that at 1 p.m. the day after Christmas, it's filled with old people that want to see a picture show. That's Angeloyd Webber wrote, didn't you know? And so afterwards, you know, we will talk more about my actual, the moments and how we were during the movie. But we were immediately called a woman pulled on Jeff's shirt and said, you know you're rude.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh, no. It's like, all right. Yeah. Sure. Did you see, do you know what we just saw was rude? It was fun. What we just saw was a rude every ounce of what was put by. making it showed a complete lack of respect for any human, intelligent audience member.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And also, I will say, it wasn't like we were going, boo, fuck your cat. Like, we were having, we were cheering. And every time, you know, it's like we were meowing. We were singing. We were laughing. It was, we were having a fun time. But I will say that another family came up to us afterwards. And it was like a middle-aged mom, her two teen daughters, and probably her mother and her aunt.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And she was like, I just wanted to say, was this, I feel like you guys know, was this supposed to be bad? I was like, no, it was it? Just like, I just wanted to say thank you because you guys enjoying it made it a fun experience because we thought this was supposed to be good. So thank you for enjoying it so much because it in turn and made us enjoy it. And I was like, thank you for saying that. Thank you very much. I like did not set it out to go to, I mean, admittedly we were with a big group of people dressed as dogs. But I was like, it is possible for us to not be.
Starting point is 00:07:48 We walked into the theater and there was a clear. There was one, the robot was just like, hell yeah, this is the way you got to see cats. I was like, good, okay, good. So I was worried about getting a bad reaction. But there were definitely, I could see it. I was just trying not to make eye contact with people who were definitely like, oh, fuck. Group of dogs. Group of dogs.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But despite being a group of dogs, I was like, it is possible for us to not be assholes. We're just going to sit and watch a movie. I think we were pretty respectful. By the way, I definitely said a couple things that like a few different parts. I definitely laughed, cackled throughout many parts. But for the most part, like, I wasn't trying to be Mr. Joke Man in the theater. I hate that guy. No, we weren't making any excessive jokes.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It's just that we couldn't stop laughing. Yes. Because it was, and then the most amazing thing was that by the end, the whole theater was laughing. Like, we were all laughing like we were all sitting around in a circle together, They're telling the best story of our lives. Like we were all like doubled over the row ahead of us, the row behind us. And so that is, I know it's like, I know it could, it's still rude. But it would have been impossible to see it in the theater without having the reaction
Starting point is 00:08:59 that we had. A hundred percent. And that's why I do look forward to future public viewings of this movie because it will be more, uh, everybody's in on the joke essentially. Whereas you could tell like somehow these people made it through the media cycle. of this film coming out without having an idea. I thought it was actually going to be good. Yeah, I was shocked.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And it was definitely older people who just are, you know, they're on their way. They're on their way out. That's probably what, I assume that's what I will see on my way out. Like, you know, what the after, like, what the white light and everything is like is pretty much. The Hesley's throwing fucking giant cards at me. Yeah, when I start to lose my mind in old age,
Starting point is 00:09:38 just play cats for me all the time. So, yeah, we definitely, that was the coolest thing definitely was like the bonding that happened throughout the film. Yeah. With, especially we made friends with like people to the left on the row in front of us and people to the left in the row behind us who were like way more verbal than we were, by the way. And I was high five and I was like cackling with their comments, their mean comments. But like we, you know, for the most part, yeah, I said the white claw line. We did pause up for Mastopheles, which was amazing. I mean, I did, yeah, I did stand up.
Starting point is 00:10:10 and clap and sing along with Mr. Rosambley. I will say I did that. But if you have seen the movie, you understand why. It's the crescendo. It's the crescendo. When, I'm spoiler alert, when Judy Dench comes in after that, I will say most of the theater went, yeah, because it's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:29 There was a point where it turned into a sing-along, specifically you and Lexi started singing, and I remember thinking, I can't believe we waited this long before it became a sing-along. And what, I can't remember, was it Mr. Mastafelis? Probably Mastavis, maybe McCavity. Yeah. McCavity, McAWitt. With Taylor Swift's turn. Carvities?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Not there. Um, just, and by the way, I want to issue a correction. I was like, oh, the two joky cats. I'm talking about the cat thieves, um, which is, is it, Rumtum Tugger? And I hate the other one's name. More than Rump Tum Tugger. It's two names. It's, um, oh, God damn it, I'll have to look it up.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm also trying to look it up because I know exactly what you're talking about but I can't remember their Briar Rose or something like I don't know but either way just just that was terrible but I guess actually let's take it back from the very beginning like initial concepts first of all I was upset because I wanted to see the title so that we could all bark at the title before going in but they didn't really show a cat's title they go and we eat we come right in oh they go right into it they jump right in the jellical cats which is definitely just please don't just say yeah Angelical cats Angelical cats And I think everyone was still giving it a shot A little bit at that point But boy, oh boy Do we just get right in there
Starting point is 00:11:49 With what's her name? Rebel Wilson Eating cockroaches I can't We have to wait to get to that Because that's insane But also their names are Mungo Jerry and Rumpelteeaseer Munga Jury and Rumpel Teaser
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yes And can I say That one of the most challenging experiences For me throughout the film was that I couldn't tell what famous person was what cat because it looked like their faces had been cut out and sewn onto a cat suit. I am so curious.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I'm cats level curious about the idea that you guys saw that they released a different version of cats because apparently Tom Hooper was working on, or like the production team was working on cats up until cats came out. Yes. Because there was such a reaction. action to the to the trailer and yet there was still like weird render errors in the initial cut we got the patched version of the film which i'm very disappointed and saddened by but it was still a complete fucking shit show
Starting point is 00:12:51 jennifer hudson saying the shit out of every moment she was on the screen and and i was immediately brought into it but it looked like her face had been cut a little a little cookie cutter of her circle like a serial killer sliced off her face sewn on to a virtual cat suit. It was absolutely nightmarish. I would find myself being so drawn in by her and then being like, where's the rest of her face? Here is the rest of her face, but also what I couldn't help but stare at. See, I will say during memories,
Starting point is 00:13:25 because we all know memories, I was silent and wrapped because Jennifer Hudson. They just zoom in and they're like, don't look at anything else. Yes, yeah, cats is ridiculous. But look at how she sings us. song. I went from laughing so hard I was crying to stopping and almost crying at memories. Right. Same. And going back to making fun of it. But what I couldn't not stare at was her full
Starting point is 00:13:49 human hand with fake nails that was in the screen while she's sick of cats. So that is one of the things that they fixed that we unfortunately did not get to appreciate. And I am so bummed out about that. We, they fixed that. I believe. Oh, so I did see. Oh, yeah. If you saw it. If you saw it, like, day after Christmas, I'm pretty sure you got the OG. It was supposed to be, I think, the Sunday after its release, it was supposed to be completely, which is insane that this is something that has, like, never happens. They very rarely re-release a movie, especially the same week. And I was reading this article about it that in, like, the last, because it's very, very expensive to do that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And that the last movie that they apparently done that with was in 1980 with Disney's The Watcher in the Woods. because they had to completely redo the ending. And yet still, that was re-released a year and a half after its release. Yeah, I mean, I cannot imagine them putting out this movie across the nation and then being like, ah, fuck, we forgot about the human hands. Right. Okay, so this is definitely, well, this is, if Hopper is really working on it to the last minute, I think it's definitely a case of, oh, he made that Les Mez that won a bunch of awards and everybody
Starting point is 00:15:02 watched and, like, a lot of people really loved. Let's just, Car Blanche for the next one. I will say Tom Hooper loves cats. I think that this is a man that loved cats and wanted to see it be as magical as he wanted it to be on the stage, on the screen. And you know what I will give cats?
Starting point is 00:15:25 What? The singing, I will give cats, the singing and the dancing is fantastic. My heart goes out to Francesca Hayward. Yeah, by the way. Ballerinas in there. Honestly, the performers did a great job. No one was terrible.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Maybe James Corden. James Corden. Yeah, but whatever. And kind of rebel a little bit there. And that's what we start with, by the way. But as a musical in general, that's the first mistake. That was his first error, my friend, was thinking that this movie, or this musical, rather,
Starting point is 00:15:57 is it all good? Look, people were crazy in the 80s. Coke was like water back in. You throw coke at the cab driver at the end of a cab ride, okay? That's the kind of situation Katz is coming out of. Right. This is not for any sort of value. And I think that that's the key.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And the Lay Miz comparison is such an important one because in order to make, listen, you can turn any musical into a movie, any live stage show into a movie, and it might be, most of them will be like fine. In order for it to be a good movie, I think it has to have a good plot. like Le Miz actually has a fucking story. This plot is so, any plot that involves, while most of it is introducing characters, is just period going to be terrible.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But I also appreciate too, like in the VHS, because you used to watch a VHS copies of cats, I was worried that Tom Hooper was going to put in a bunch of scenes in between trying to make it make sense. And I respect the fact that he is aware that it makes no fucking sense and that he just didn't even try and it was just song to song to song to song almost no acting only singing. But to your point, Jackie, I can imagine that this, that this, if there is value to be had
Starting point is 00:17:13 from this musical, it is value that comes from watching it as a live theater production with singing and dancing. Yes. Because we love singing and dancing. Singing and dancing is fine, even if the songs are dumb. But like what, like taking something that is specific to a medium of the line. live theater and then putting it into the medium of film and trying a la lame is to build this world around it when it's a fucking nonsense world.
Starting point is 00:17:41 All I could think was I wish there were this many cats in the real world in the streets. There's cats everywhere. But do you know? You'll get fleas everywhere. Yeah, it'll be horrible shit everywhere. But I will say this too, though, is that like I think that he tried to meet that middle ground that you lose with the live situation of seeing these live people dance and sing in front of you.
Starting point is 00:18:02 He tried to replace that with just a thick, heavy layer of special effects of UGI to try to make that the fun spectacle of it all? Yes, that was the biggest mistake of them all, because at least if I see a terrifying-looking human dressed like a cat in a theater, I'm like, well, it looks terrifying because it's a human, dressed like a cat. Human can only look so much like a cat. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But on screen to try to replicate the terror of the real-ass original costumes, but make it all virtual somehow so that you knew if you reached out and touch them, they wouldn't even be there. Yeah. It was absolutely nightmare. Just atrocious. And then also, like, we're not even mentioning, sure, sure, the cats themselves, you're, you're on that bent.
Starting point is 00:18:42 But what about all the other and bad shit, CGI shit going on with the fucking cockroaches that I brought up before with, uh, the Jenny any dots, like the entire Jenny any dot's song. Yes. Made me want to crawl into myself and die. I hated every. second of it. And that's like the first song, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I was so mad. I was so mad. So I also, I had to like 20 minutes in and be like, Jeff, you got to stop. Because he kept bringing up the disparities of size. Yes. Problems of like why this is so big and why this is so small. And he's like, but then it was finally when he's like,
Starting point is 00:19:24 why are the mice children and why are they smaller than the cockroaches? I know, Jeff. I know. I know, I know, I know. But you can't bring up every single thing that's on the screen or else you're going to be talking about the entire time. Right. What a continuity nightmare for whoever was doing that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 She'd get a non-award. Also, though, I feel like the one-two punch at the beginning of getting, first of all, you've got Rebel Wilson, and then right after that, you get the fucking, what's his fuck face? James Corden's number right after that was essentially like facing off against Mike Tyson. It was just, I'm lights out.
Starting point is 00:20:01 by the end of that. There's no coming back after those two numbers. Both of those numbers, ooh, his tail. How dare they with the tails, by the way? All that tail work. Whoever had to do that should be locked away in pervert jail. The bit where he nuts himself, I was like, oh, come on. Are we really?
Starting point is 00:20:18 Did they do that in the live theater? Or is this a fucking cheap shot, like, you know, animated film joke that everybody goes, oh, he nutted himself. I don't think the nut himself happened in the... No. We do not need a fat cat nutting himself dressed like James Corrid. Dress like James Corrid. And now at least it makes sense because I think we did see the non-patched version
Starting point is 00:20:41 because it did go back and forth in the same scene of him wearing the suit and the shoes and then him having regular cat person feet, cat hybrid people feet. So it kept going back and forth. And it's that in the tailwork of Jenny Annie Dodds, Rebel Wilson's character, She kept singing into her cock slash tail multiple times, and it drew. I just was like, stop doing that. Just stop. It's old hat.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And you're already, you've got all the, oh, God, the cockroaches. And the mice, the children, mice. The children mice made me so angry. I think the thing, all right, so I had a cat at one point that I kind of hated that I was sort of forced to have because my girlfriend at the time in college. And the thing I hated, the most about that fucking cat was it would run outside and grab it, the biggest cockroach you could find, and bring us the gift of it, and, like, play with this cockroach in front of us in my living room, and I just despised that.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Do not drag real cats into this whole thing. Real cats are wonderful. I'm just saying. Those cats have nothing to do with real cats. Those cats look like ferrets, if anything. Tall and thin. All I'm saying is, if you want to charm me, don't eat a cockroach in front of me. That's going to do the opposite, Rebel Wilson and company.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'm sorry. We're already lights out. It's done. Big laugh moments, by the way, early on was definitely, I think it's the first time you see Ian McKellon. He goes like, meow, meow, meow, meow. Miao. What was the fuck was that?
Starting point is 00:22:12 I wish I could have recorded the argument that Kissel and Henry got into last night because Kissel's like laid down the gauntlet of, I don't think that Ian McKellen, I think he was the worst part of the movie. And Henry's like, how fucking dare you? He's the only one on that screen that was attempting to be. cat and they're screaming at each other at a far last night about it because henry is he's gone in the deep end of cats because we all know that they had gone to cat everyone went to cat school apparently to learn how to be an act like a cat and it seems like i don't know if ian
Starting point is 00:22:49 refused to do it which would make sense but it also if you notice i don't know if his suit was digital fur technology because he had on a tailored coat with one huge button on it for no reason even though everyone else had normal size clothes and buttons on for cats even though some of them had pants on and some of them didn't which I also didn't make any fucking sense
Starting point is 00:23:13 and but him I would say the Ian McKellen shining moment I have never laughed so hard as I did when he was licking milk out of a bowl I've never seen such commitment And then Jeff stood up and went, that's Sir Ian McAllen. Liking milk out of a bowl.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I also would love to talk a few minutes about Idris Elba's six-pack fur. Mew! His intros and exits were the funniest thing I've ever seen. That was going to be my second big laugh. Was all of those. Look at every last one. Didn't know what would he go, Mesobony!
Starting point is 00:23:57 Or he went like, He said McCavity! He makes a gesture as he vaporizes into thin air. And he vaporizes into dust. Yes. But also, he has like a skin suit of fur. Like he has fur, but he also has like a sculpted chest with the fur, which nobody else had. Nobody else looked naked in their fur.
Starting point is 00:24:20 When he showed up, you could see his muscles under that fur. But was that? I found it to be a very uncanny. Horned up, yes. Everything in here was a misguided attempt to trying to make you oddly horny. It was like maybe they'll ignore all of how awful this plot
Starting point is 00:24:36 and the songs and particularly the names that the cats are if we could just make them an inch horny. A 5% hornier when they walk out of the theater. And I, you know, I love Idraselba and a listener tweeted at me that apparently it is recorded forever on this show.
Starting point is 00:24:54 that years ago I said I would fuck Idraselba in a Garfield costume. And so now it's put to the test. Wow. And, you know. Do you like, how do you feel about Mondays? I do not like Mondays. That is something that we have in common. Something you have in common.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But I'm not saying I wouldn't sleep with Idraselba as he looks in cats. But I'm also saying I do not like it. The fur chest, the sculpted fur chest was very disconcern. Because everybody else is just like a like a like a you know they they don't have like like Taylor Swift had like nipples. Right, right. Taylor Swift was the only cat with breasts. And I don't know if you noticed that, but she was the only cat with breasts.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Right. I believe and I believe there were more breasts in the trailer and that they actually do to criticism sort of maybe remove some of the breasts. You want less breasts? Yeah, I think they were so confused as to why people were upset. I need to write a sketch about the reaction to the trailer. You know what I mean? Because, like, I just feel like that room must have been fascinating.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Just, like, so confused is why people are so upset or not upset laughing at whatever they are about the trailer, right? Right. And then that meeting to fix the movie before it was released must have been fucking amazing. Heads will roll if we don't figure out what it is about this. That's wrong. It's the brass. Everybody but Taylor needs their breasts removed. You got to leave the breasts on Taylor.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I think it's interesting, though, because with the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, the outcry of hatred of how Sonic was designed was properly, and they threw money at it, fixed. Yes. Why did it, when all of the outcry and outrage that happened with the cat's trailer, that Tom Hooper, I don't know what he had been working on. I'm sure that he's very upset about it, though. I'm sure. Well, it's a good wake-up call for him. You know, I think it's due time. For sure.
Starting point is 00:26:51 The problem is, like, with everything going on, I mean, what do you? you, okay Jackie, how could you fix it? How do you, okay, Tom Hopper comes up to you, hey, I don't know why, but the trailer came out and everyone's like making fun of it. I thought I had like a really good musical on my hands with this all-star cast that was going to make me millions of millions
Starting point is 00:27:08 of dollars and get like Oscar Noms and everything, yada, yada, yada, right? Why is it bad? And what do we do to fix it before we release? We talked about, we actually had this conversation is that it seems like since everything was CGI,
Starting point is 00:27:23 every single thing with CGIed that they just couldn't handle the background the outfits, the face, that they couldn't hand, it seemed like, or they needed a lot more time to do it properly. Because I don't know if you guys stared at this because once I noticed that I couldn't stop staring,
Starting point is 00:27:43 their feet. Yes. Their feet, not that they even that they were human, but that the fact that they never touched the ground because they were floating the entire time because it was all fake. And I think that it was just that they needed probably, I'm gonna guess another year at least,
Starting point is 00:28:00 to properly do the CGI to make it all look right. So like it's almost like pick one. Go full digital with like the costume or go and leave these sets real. They do the Zubli Zoo effect. That's what they should have done. They should have done real costumes and have the real performers because they're dancers.
Starting point is 00:28:20 They should be able to have the freedom to dance without having all the things on them. Or maybe they couldn't dance the way that they were supposed to with the kind of costumes they wanted them to wear. But fuck digital fur technology. It's digital fur technology's fault. It doesn't matter. None of this matters because I'm going to go ahead and say
Starting point is 00:28:36 that what I've always felt from when I first saw this musical as a young child, a young child who loved tons of awful shit. This is probably one of the first times I ever went, you know what? That's not good. Was to this musical. I saw it live in a theater. Yeah, I saw it live and, like, my dad tortured us with these musicals.
Starting point is 00:28:57 He would listen to the fucking soundtrack of the musical all week leading up to it, all day leading up to the showing of it, too. It made me fucking crazy because, like, I would just, like, want to watch the musical just so I could no longer have to listen to it in the house because my dad would stop. That's so cute. I totally want to be the dad that's like, all right, kids, we're going to listen to cats for a whole week. Forever. And I remember afterwards being like, well, that was interesting. And my brother was just like, no. You're right.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, this is fucking bad. I mean, just fundamentally from a plot outline, you can't just introduce characters for a full hour and a half and then give us some rules at the end. By the way, put the rules in the beginning of the fucking day. I think... Judy Ditch wants to give us rules with five minutes left. A cat is not a dog.
Starting point is 00:29:43 There's an idiotic phrase. That end. I had to piss so bad. And I was like, shut up. Shut, Judy. Why are you looking into the camera and telling me that, Cats, I'm going. I don't cats.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Looking into the camera, God, that was really where I thought I'd lost my mind, actually lost my mind. I was like, is she looking at me? Well, I was so stoned out of my gourd, too, that I thought she was talking to. Yeah, that's the thing, too. I was on heavy edibles as well, and I think that is time to say that. Most of us were drunk, and I was, I poured a big thing of bourbon. I mean, and we were pre-gaming for this. This was my birthday celebration.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And by the way, and I feel like we're really doing a lot of time shitting on this movie, but I have to reiterate that this is still. still a movie you need to see. You just go see it. I enjoy it. It's one of, I'm going to say, one of my top movies of the year. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 One of my top movie going experiences of my life. Ever, for sure. I've never had so much fun. I've never had so much fun watching a movie. But Holden hits on the central problem or the central question, which is, is the film bad because the musical is bad or is the film so especially bad as a film
Starting point is 00:30:48 that in ways that aren't even fair to credit to the musical? See, I will say that the musical, not to be like this, but I think that the musical from a singing and a dancing standpoint was a success. How dare you? And I think of the actual musical because they, like, if you ever, you watch the VHSs, right? They dance their fucking asses off all they're singing. I love it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You said VHS is just how dated the. Well, because I had the double VHS and I would put. I mean, I'm going to say if just listeners, if you've never seen it, look up an image of it right now and you'll still just. be like, why? It is also scary. Yeah, very scary. And I will say that it's the anti-lala land of the fact that I'm proud that the lead
Starting point is 00:31:32 was actually one of the heads of the Royal Ballet. The person that, what was it, tapy taps on the railways, he's an actual Australian tap dancer. Yeah, yeah, he did great. And by the way, and my heart goes out. Skimble shanks. Very important. Everyone knows.
Starting point is 00:31:50 His name is skimble shanks. He hated so much. I hate it so much. And you know, Molly, I'm going to say this right now. I don't like cats and animal either. I'm biased. I'm biased. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:02 See, that's a separate conversation. This movie made me happy to be a dog lover, baby. No, cats? Chuck one for the dogs. I went home to my real cats, and I just stared at them and thought about how their proportions are so different than what I had just seen. Right. And even the choice of being like, okay. And they said this.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They were like, no. They'll be like humanoid cats that sometimes are on all fours, but other times they're just on their fucking hind legs standing fully upright like humans. We don't give a fuck. I'm all over the place. I wanted to go back to, I wanted it. What was I going to talk about? It just, yeah, the plotting of it is, um.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Is that, was it Robert Pattinson? Robert Pattinson. Was he Mr. Mistophiles? Who was Mr. Mistophiles? No. Mr. Mistophiles played by Lori Davidson. Lori Davidson. Because I was looking at him the whole time being like, like I said, I couldn't
Starting point is 00:32:52 tell who was who? I was like, is this Robert fucking Pattinson? Is Robert Patton's? Mr. Mistopoulis? No idea. Their faces look so weird. I thought Mr. Mesophilies, I thought he did a great job. Everybody honestly did a fair job. Lexi said Taylor Swift doesn't really have a voice for musicals,
Starting point is 00:33:08 which I kind of agree with, but I will say I still enjoyed her performance. I did not like the shrill sound of the singer's voice in the old VHS tapes, as we're referring to them. I thought, so I actually was more palatable me, for me, her performance, even though it was still, yeah, not amazing.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Francesca Howard's performance of her song, though, I really liked. A beautiful ghost. Yeah, she did a great job. The moments I appreciated. And yes, memories as well, but honestly, you're right. As much as I want to love Jennifer Hudson's performance, and I'm always going to fucking like her performances of songs, the face is just one of the scariest.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yes, definitely. What I was very excited about with Jennifer Hudson was the trailer. Did you guys have the trailer for Aretha where she's playing Aretha Franklin in the biopic about Aretha Franklin? No, did we see trailers? That was right before cats. And that made me very excited.
Starting point is 00:33:59 We didn't get, did we just not get, by that point were they so ashamed that no one wanted to put a trailer before it? That may have been the case. I think it started raw. I can't remember. Yeah, I definitely left to get water during what would have been the trailers,
Starting point is 00:34:13 but I didn't see any. And I was just straight fucked up. But like, yeah, going back to the whole thing of just definitely see this movie and see this with your loved ones and see this just celebrate this film because we don't get a lot of these a lot of times this movie could have come out and just been
Starting point is 00:34:29 boring or something like that this is boring it wasn't boring it is in no way boring ever I was captivated every so we were talking about this beforehand I had to piss for pretty much the entire film and I could not wrench myself from my chair I could not get out of my chair because I just had to see
Starting point is 00:34:45 the next ridiculous fucking thing happen on the screen the next weird choice that just was either corny or embarrassing or hilarious. And to our credit for like quote unquote ruining the movie for others, when they did make actual attempts at humor, the deathly silence in that theater. So I think the people who were watching it were on the same page at least a little bit in terms of that. I think that that's what infuriates me, though, are the people that went to see like an actual
Starting point is 00:35:13 like theater performance where did you never see cats? Right. It is fanciful. is not lay miss you're not going in to sit down to watch war-torn country broken up lovers people dying it's funcible that is the point of cats you know i feel like it's more that they were expecting to walk in and have something wash over them like an oxycodone trip you know what i mean like they're not gonna laugh they weren't going to cry but they were literally just going to like half smile and just have this thing sort of happen at them like a lazy river ride you know what i mean but instead they got like an
Starting point is 00:35:49 mushroom trip. Haunted fucking mansion fucking ride from hell. Can we please speak to the idea? Because I don't think it was ever really established on the VHS's because I've ever seen the theater performance of it.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But if you so is it? Well, we know that there are humans in this world. Right? Because the cat is dropped off in the beginning by a rich couple that abandons it. So you know that there are cats that are owned. And there was there there's cats that live in houses. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:23 But there's not any real, a true acknowledgement of humans in the film. Is there a milk bar that is the size made for humans? Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Is this a world? Is this the normal world and we are seeing the cat version of it? Or is this a world just for cat? And all I could think about was all of them with all that dancing and all that milk was just a bunch of cats puking up milk in the gutters. And that is what I couldn't stop thinking about. I couldn't stop thinking about how I wish that there was this many cats in the streets. That was really my central thought.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I was like, there's just cats everywhere. And I also was so glad I hadn't read reviews or really even refreshed my knowledge of the basics of the film because everything was a surprise. Like who in terms of all, like, I was like, I think that's Jason Dorillo. I know he's in it. Like, it was just like every scene that. came next was like a true surprise. That is probably the kindest review that a single person that I've read give this movie,
Starting point is 00:37:32 this movie, by the way, almost funnier than the movie are the negative reviews. Yeah, the reviews are really good. Please look up the negative reviews because it also, one of them was just like the only part of, the only review was, it was just one line that was like, the actors really tried their hardest. And that was it. Because they really did, they acted their asses off. And so many people I love, Judy Tinch, Ian McKellen, I really, Edress Elba, I mean, so,
Starting point is 00:37:56 and that's, again, what makes it so special and powerful is how great, the great talent they got to make this embarrassment. Yeah, I saw Brooke in the bathroom, we both left in the middle, and she was like, there is so much a talent in this film that will never, ever be able to be redeemed within this film. Like, there is nothing they can do to activate the talent that they have. I cannot believe that I actually saw Judy Dinch, like, in an embarrassing light. Ever in my life, did I ever think I would see her and be like, man, I feel bad for her. That's embarrassing as fuck. Especially, and by the way, one of the biggest laughs, big laugh number three, when she did the leg lift of approval. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Oh, my God. in her cat bed and she kicks it up while it's just like look at my pussy's pussy and I imagine that's what she said inside of her brain and she kicked her leg up sorry to stray from from the reviews uh did you have some good woods pulled up oh no I was just looking because someone there's a whole rant I think it's on vulture that is about just the butts of the cats and I forget because the butts were bulbous and and some of them had good butts and some of them had good butts and some of them great butts. And that is where I, when I saw a good butt, I could not stare, like Skimble's shanks,
Starting point is 00:39:23 the tap dancer, great ass on it. But also, why did he have pants on? And maybe it had something to do. Oh, and then, you know, I'm sorry, I just remembered the break dancing cats with the shoes with the high tops on for no reason. Remember the breakdancing cats with the high tops on? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Another surprise.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yes, another, unbelievable. Like, whoa, they can't get away with one number in this. To, you know, again, beautiful ghosts, I felt like was kind of done, but that was literally just her standing there, you know, belting it out. She had a beautiful voice. And also another, like, great moment in the theater for us was that when, so memory, as it appears, it appears several times throughout. And it's always Jennifer Hudson being there, like, sad and quiet at first, like,
Starting point is 00:40:08 memory. And I was like, I want her to belt it. And then when she finally got to the part where she's like, she like really belts it. Everyone in the theater cheered. It was very, very satisfying. That was awesome. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I love it when an audience comes together to be like, we are going to enjoy this. Yeah. Let's have a great time. And it was the cheering. Like I said, I've never heard the roar of a theater. Like when Judy Dench showed up after all of the singing of Mr. Mistophilies. Because it's great. It should be, again, fanciful.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Right. And, I mean, if you're going to wait and watch and see, witch cat gets put in a hot air balloon and sent up to the sky. You know, you have to cheer. That was insane. That whole end, that last scene with them, with surrounding Judy Dench, I think my favorite thing is what we've been doing in my household is cats listening to each other with like, it's the theater version where like I can't, you can't see me doing it right now. But my entire face is involved with listening to what you have to say. They did that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I couldn't stare at stop staring at everyone around Judy Dench in that last scene. As she's just, I don't know, singing about how cats are dogs. Right. Singing the rules. The rules, usually a good thing to say at the beginning of the music. I was going to throw it out there at the beginning. One of my favorite reviews or lines from a review was the evening standard who gave it two stars. but perhaps musical fans will love it anyway.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Perhaps they are one of the permanent mysteries of life. It, like, made everybody think way too hard in these weird ways. Like, everybody has so many weird takes on this movie, idiot. Like, they talk about, like, they were literally, it was like they went through some sort of a wartime torture story. You know what I mean? They're talking about, like, the horrors that they saw on the side. psychedelic nightmare that it was.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah, also evenings they're nearly as obscene as the human centipede. Everyone, there are, yes, there are people describing it as torturous. I've seen multiple things. Like, I think one of the dumb ones was like, it's the, it's the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs, which made me think of you guys. Yes. Of course. And another big one is just talking about all of the, they really pulled out every fucking shit cat pun.
Starting point is 00:42:45 They could. And it's like guys and those landed like rocks with the audience. Which again it made me feel at least a little bit better. I'm like, okay I heard one joke hit. It was a Rebel Wilson joke. I can't remember what it was and it had nothing to do with a shitty cat pun and it
Starting point is 00:43:01 made like three people in the theater laugh. Every other actual attempted humor just bombed hard. Are all the cast being held hostage? Who thought this was a good way to spend $95 million, including the most pressing, where are the buttholes? Why? Well, because absolutely Jack all happens in this film. Ludacrous, pointless, and simply not good enough. Bad. James Corden and Rebel Wilson are a unique form of horror at the best of times.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And I remember I audibly, one of my first things I audibly said out loud, which I think got some disgruntlement, the couple behind us, they walked out. I couldn't tell whether it was because they knew we were just going to be pretty loudly laughing at this movie the whole time, and they just didn't get why anyone would do that because they're joyless, soulless people. Or I think, though, what happened was that it seemed like the girlfriend dragged the boyfriend to see a movie, and the guy was kind of like, a dude guy. And he very quickly realized what this was going to be and was like,
Starting point is 00:44:00 we've got to go. Just like, you want to watch something else? He's like, oh, yeah, babe. Okay, babe. I saw another couple walkout not too long. after that. But I will say, yeah, when James Corden, when I saw the first image of him,
Starting point is 00:44:15 I literally just went, oh, God, oh, God. Because I was going through, like, kind of a fear and loathing in Las Vegas scenario. Right. got some people around. We were laughing at that. that Rebel Wilson unzipped her skin to reveal costumes underneath of also her skin. I did not remember that. I allowed went, oh my God, both times.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And then I said, not again. Oh, my God, that was disgusting. That was horror. And I need to, hopefully, things will be written about this. And I mean, obviously, eventually we should do a pop history on this whole thing. But I need to know the story of how this came to be and how this happened. Lee Hall is the script writer. But they did, what, War Horse, which is supposed to be really good.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Billy Elliott, which was supposed to be good. Rocket Man! I think she, maybe he, Rocket Man. I really think that what the problem, the main problem was, it's just, it's the editing and that they didn't have enough talk. I'm going to say source material. And source material, yes. And the approach
Starting point is 00:45:48 artistically, like the CGI, everything. And it's so funny to be, well, I guess Le Mez was fantastical in certain settings, but for the most part, it had this raw feel to it. And apparently, I guess people hated Le Mez as well because there was a lot
Starting point is 00:46:03 of, like, bashing both a little bit with the reviews for cats, but I enjoyed it. As someone that, I love Les the musical and I enjoyed the movie because I thought they did
Starting point is 00:46:15 what they could with it but it's also a huge story I mean it's a lot it is a lot but it had this vibe to it of setting and I know it's
Starting point is 00:46:24 cats and it's a real historical event so it's different but I felt raw and real and had this and I think maybe if you did have real costumes
Starting point is 00:46:34 and they all looked scruffy I just don't know because again I would I would not have seen this movie if it wasn't the shit fire that it purported to be with the first trailer, period.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So I don't really know what a world does look like where they don't do the CGI and stuff like that. I just don't know. I've been thinking about this a lot. Is it because I do think that musical theater can be done in the medium of film. But I think that perhaps there are some things that just shouldn't ever be,
Starting point is 00:47:02 that just exist in the medium they are, right? You wouldn't want to turn an improv show into a two-hour feature film. Exactly. You know, people try. But it's just, it exists in the time and the place.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And I think that if cats, if, and it's a big if, if it has anything to offer, it has something to offer in the halls of Broadway, you know, but not in a medium of film.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I do think Le Miz has something to offer in film because it's a great story. Yes. It's, you know, every song is good as opposed to. Beautiful relationship. and the songs are amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And if anything, I think the criticism of Laymiz was that it didn't do enough justice to the goodness of the actual original musical. Yeah, yeah, totally. And this was like, people were like, wait a minute, is this bad or is the original bad? Or is both bad? And I love how it makes everybody even reconsider,
Starting point is 00:47:57 like, what is musical theater as a whole as something that should be reexamined? Is this an indictment of musical theater as a hard for? It reminds me of back when I was doing a lot more live comedy, and I would see a comedy show so just atrociously terrible. It made me just be like, what even is funny? Right, right. What is the definition of comedy anymore?
Starting point is 00:48:16 I can't tell because of what I've just seen, what my eyes have just beheld, and that is definitely what Katz does for the movie-going audience. Yeah, for the entire genre. But you know what? This makes me think, I want to see a film treatment, like a Christmas blockbuster of like The Sound of Music redone. Do I?
Starting point is 00:48:32 I don't know if I stand by that. But, like, it could be done. I'm sure that it will happen at some point. It could be done. But again, that's real. people in a real situation and they have relationships with each other. I mean, that period. They have relationships with each other.
Starting point is 00:48:46 See, this is what I want next is I was talking about this with Jeff. I want to see the big blockbuster doing of Starlight Express. And if you are not familiar with Starlight Express, it is a musical that is about trains and their relationships. And everyone in the cast wears Rollerskin. and the entire stage is built into roller rinks. And so as they're singing, they're roller skating and because they are trains. I want to see that blockbusters.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And that is an Andrew Lloyd-Weber as well, right? Oh, it is. I believe so. I think that's arguably his worst. If Katz isn't his worst, then that one is his worst. Have you ever seen clips of Starlight Express because it's mixed? You know, Andrew Lloyd-Leod Weber is a master of what he does. But some of it, I just can't believe.
Starting point is 00:49:37 that he gets away with it. Well, it's the same thing that Hopper thought he had, which is like, oh, I can kind of just pop out any crazy, dumbass idea, and people will enjoy it, and things have changed largely. I implore you, though, to look up pictures right now of Starlight Express. Oh, I've seen them before.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It's fucking completely insane. Oh, I'm talking also to anyone listening right now. If you are able to, please look up pictures of Starlight Express. I just thought we were having a conversation. I didn't realize, oh, right, we're recording. I didn't even... We're also recording. This is just because we've been talking about cats for so many days.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And I said this to Molly before we started recording. I feel like I'm pregnant with cats. And then I'm about like if I don't get this, I need, we needed to record this episode. Yeah. I can't stop thinking about it. I can't stop talking about it. I needed to get my opinion out to the masses. And it's hard because I feel really alienated from anybody who hasn't seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You know, people in my normal life for like, how was it? Oh, there's a great divide of people who have seen cats and people who have not seen cats. Yeah, I'm like, how do I even? right side. I can't even talk to about it. You know, like, how do I talk to about this experience? There's no way you'll ever understand. No.
Starting point is 00:50:43 It's also, like, Jackie, does Henry like the movie? What do you mean? I don't know. After he saw it, he texted me, like, it wasn't that bad. And then you're saying he loves the movie. Okay, he loves it. Like, legitimately? He loves it in the way we love it.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Okay, okay. He did also say it was in his top films of the decade. I think it's because it, we, I really have not laughed that hard at a movie in, I don't, I'm sorry, I'm just looking at a clip right now that's on silent and they're all running, but their cats running with their arms swaying behind that. Henry keeps walking, like running like a cat from place to place with his shoulders moving back and forth. At the bar, it was very, very funny.
Starting point is 00:51:31 He was being very funny. I'm only sad in that I was saying to Molly, because you pulled a notebook out for a little bit, right? I did. I forgot to bring my notebook. And in the middle of the movie, I've never done this ever at a movie before. But I was like, I have a notebook in my bag. I need to like take my notebook out of my bag and write because I'm never going to remember all the things that are going through my brain right now because my brain is firing on all
Starting point is 00:51:52 cylinders. But my brain has felt a little bit like numb after all of the crazy life experiences I've been through in the last two years. And I felt like I was coming alive again watching cats. And so I got out of a notebook, but it was so dark. I couldn't see anything. So I was trying to make notes like, cats are ferrets,
Starting point is 00:52:10 and I didn't bring my notebook, and I haven't even looked at it to see if any of the notes make any sense. And didn't you realize we've been talking about this for 50 minutes? We did the whole episode. We got to the list. You didn't even need the notebook.
Starting point is 00:52:20 We got to the list. We did the whole episode about cats. I have other things to talk about. I can't. I knew we wouldn't get to anything else. There's so many little things, though, that I will need to go back and I will need to take notes and do,
Starting point is 00:52:35 and we'll do, well, this is, this will never be the last time we talk about this film. No, this is the beginning. But, but yeah, in a way, it would have ruined my, that was my birthday treat, and I was really out of it on, on different elements. So it was sort of just, I needed to sit back and just enjoy what that thing was doing. Yeah. But there were so many tiny things that I know I have a thought about and have feelings about that I cannot mention yet.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Some might say you've not lived until you've seen Taylor Swift head to toe and for Dame Judy Dentch sporting a ginger beard Henry the 8th would be proud of and James Corden dressed as a fat cat in spats others would say they are images you'll struggle to erase for years to come. I think at one point I leaned over to Lexi and said that Judy Dench looks like the cowardly lion. She does.
Starting point is 00:53:28 She had like a beard. Yeah, it looked a lot like the cowardly lion. But the coverly lion isn't like, it's kind of scary. But not so uncanny because it's just a human in a suit, you know. So you're like, ah, that's a weird suit. But it's not the same as whatever this was. Oh, my God. Oh, James Corden's weird.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Oh, airbrushed body. I can't. We have to, I guess we should do a list. I had, we had other decade things to do. This is the end. This is what closed out the decade. And I think that that is very, I think it's very important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:59 This decade that we have, we have grown in a lot of ways as a society. We've been pushed back a lot of ways. society. A lot has happened in the past decade. But the one thing that I think a higher power for is that Katz is what took us out of this decade. Yeah. Yeah. It really is the best of times and the worst of times. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'll always just remember the first time I looked over you, Molly, and we just mouth the gate. But with glee in our eyes. Yeah, right. We were like scared and amazed. Stunned silence. Just speechless.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Fuck, man. It was very special. So hopefully we'll be showing cats in a city near you. I really want to, I feel like we could actually tour with it. But for now, let's definitely plan some kind of public viewing for the second the DVD hits. Yeah, got too. And we can't wait for it. But I guess, well, let's at least roll through some of the list, right?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Oh! Sing it to me. Who's on the list? Jackie! We got to have that list. Sorry, I almost forgot the list song. Yeah, you almost did because you're so thinking of, ever, ever, ever,
Starting point is 00:55:14 A cat's so clever as magical Mr. Mustafa. I'm really, like, I'm getting to a point that if I don't get it out of my head, I'm worried for myself. I'm worried for my sanity. I desperately tried to get other songs in my head, and I can't do it. It's a fucking awful. I've seen a lot of social media people hit a song. saying the same thing.
Starting point is 00:55:36 They're having the same torture in their life. It is torture. We're going to go through some of the feud, fights, and felonies, the celebrity gossip that defined this decade. You forget, man, so much. Beyonce, Solange, Jay-Z, and $1 billion in an elevator. Yeah. Do you guys remember the elevator incident?
Starting point is 00:55:56 That was something that we thought that we would never forgive Jay-Z for. I've never loved Beyonce or Solange more. Or even Jay-Z. for being like, you know what? Yes, you can beat me up in this elevator and we're just going to keep on, keep it on. I think that they all handled it well. It always will make me think of how many times
Starting point is 00:56:14 I've had weird experiences the second the elevator door closes. And I feel like that's something you need to remember. It's like, think about all the times you have a weird experience in an elevator. And how much do they have to hold it together all the time, you know? And then when the minute they have a few seconds, not in front of other people, it's just like, let me just fucking up. or in front of millions of people like Kim Yeh versus Taylor Swift. Of course the classic.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And all of that happened this decade as well. Big one. You know, that was like one of her big, I'm going to say F-ups, but she's gone back. She's reoriented it, re-explained it. I will say it reminds me of definitely some drama I've been in before. And everyone's going to hate me right now because it sounds like I'm a Taylor Swift apologist. But you know what I am? I love beautiful ghosts.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I think it's a good song. I think she performed really well in magical misdemeanor. You know Beautiful Ghost wasn't a very good song. McCaffney. You all know it was boring. It was forgettable, but it was not cheesy. Like those other fucking songs in that musical. There was it ever a cat's so clever as magical mess.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's a real mess. I just see Angela and Weber just covered, just getting blown, surrounded by mountains of cocaine. And he's just like, you know it'll be a great, fuck you musical for all those fucks out there. Yeah. And he's just coming all over the place. Yeah, he's doing the fucking monologue from Deadwood as Sweringin and just fucking talking about how cats or, you know, what idiots need. And we came home and we were all a hubbub of like talking about cats, everything.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And my father's sitting there, he's smoking a cigarette. He's like, he's like, cats. Like the musical? I was like, yeah, like the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical. He wrote a new song with Taylor, I spent for the movie. He goes, he ain't still alive. And then smokes a cigarette, puts it out, and he goes, fucking hate cats. And then walked away.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Thank you, Dad. Thank you for this prolific review. I wish I'd see it. But anyways, yeah, Taylor Kim Yeh, that was a big, that was a big, nasty one, man. Oh, yeah. Kind of illegal to play recording, to record people who call you on the phone.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, I think that, but other people, I mean, Mariah Carey and Eminem, that happened in that song, so I guess that's... I think it depends on the state. And I think it also depends, it's the fuck you money that they have, that they can just be like, Yeah, I'll just pay that off in the courts.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, some states have one party, like, consent and some don't. But, I mean, it's definitely, you could say it's unethical, you know. Oh, yeah. I don't know about illegal. And thinking of all of it, which I actually don't enjoy that this list just says the deaths of Amy Winehouse and Whitney Houston, because we also lost so many greats this decade. Prince. We lost David Bowie. We lost Tom Petty.
Starting point is 00:58:59 We lost Robin Williams. Oh, yeah. God. Yeah. It's insane. We've lost so many people. Who can never forget? Paul Walker.
Starting point is 00:59:08 That was this decade. Yeah, I just realized as I was walking here that Michael Jackson was the previous decade, right? Because it was 2009. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. That makes you feel old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Time is going by, but then at the same time, it's insane to think of what has changed in this decade as well, where I was another list that I had pulled up. It was like talking about how Netflix, like the House of Cards was the first. streaming show just for streaming service that happened in this decade. Isn't that crazy? Wow. Because I feel like it's a feel like almost our entire lives we've had the streaming services, but it's only been in the past like 10 years.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Not even. House of Cards was like 2013 or 14 because I remember because it was like recently enough that I was like living in my second apartment with Gideon and we were like a Netflix program just on Netflix. How interesting. A what? It was not that lot. It feels like fucking two weeks ago to me.
Starting point is 01:00:02 No, and it's insane. I guess, you know, time just keeps on going on going on. But it is... I don't know. Never has it ever. Get so clever as magical Mr. Mistopolies. It's all I can think about. And I hope that if you are listening to this, it's all you can think about.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Because it's time for... Oh, God, I think I'm going blind. Is it because of the cats? Yes. Oh, God. After seeing it. that film. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:35 My lights, my, the cones are all scrambled in my eyes. They're butt holes. All my weird cones. I think I'm going. Blind.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Items. We can't see them. Yeah, that's right. You can't fucking see them. Only I can see them. I'll be doing these blind items as various cats. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Skimble shanks. Wee. Ah. I'm not. I'm not gonna do it. My ears already, I can't. This A-plus list mostly movie actor moved into his wife's family home
Starting point is 01:01:09 when they got married. He wants to install a gun range, a gun range that joins a playground of the apartment building next door. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. This is like... Wait, an A-plus what? It is an A-plus list,
Starting point is 01:01:23 mostly movie actor. His wife comes from a celebrity family. His wife comes... Her father is a big deal in action films, just like her new man is kind of now... Chris Pratt. Yes. And Catherine Schwarzenegger. Wait, he wants to put a gun range?
Starting point is 01:01:42 They're getting weird. They are getting weird. He reportedly has a 30 to 40 gun arsenal. They are getting weird. Chris Pratt, man. I would... What a weird flip. He's taken with everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah, a lot of people have really had a glow up across this decade. Maybe Guy Fieri more than anybody. But Chris Pratt, man. Pratt has done as one of the rare glowdowns. Like, made, like, he, how beloved? I mean, not that he's not still fucking beloved, but I mean. I guess, but, like, for me, I
Starting point is 01:02:09 definitely, yeah. Right? From Parks and Rec, glory days. Yeah, no. Right. This, yeah, I give him two rairs. Squared. That's another problem, though, is I keep going, meow, meow. Mew.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Remember when he performed and afterwards, all the cats lightly patted the floor and went, as their applause. Again, Ian McKellon, meow, meow, meow, meow. And that was like, that was early as fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I could even tell you when anything had, like the whole, it's like time, it's a flat circle, yeah. I thought that it was going to be like a halfway intermission. I was like, all right, we're still, and then I was like, it's over? Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Stockholm Central, you think you're just like, yeah, this is my life now. I sit in this dark room. This is my life now. And I watch this. This A-list. mostly movie actress sent her actor ex some poster-sized photos of them in bed together
Starting point is 01:03:05 naked in various positions. They were taken while the couple were together but never developed. The thing is, the actor is married and while he will occasionally hook up with the actress, his wife was not thrilled at the site of the gift. Okay, so let me give a couple more hints. So it's an high profile, not as high profile as she once was actress.
Starting point is 01:03:25 This actor, he started out he's one of those shitheads who tried to be in a band for a while and he was mad that no one took his band seriously enough even though like he got big being an actor they were sort of trashy together a little bit even though she's like Hollywood royalty and then she sit her next husband after that is also Hollywood royalty
Starting point is 01:03:48 big names in Hollywood right now we're talking about she has too many kids that she I think adopted Angelina Jolie Yes yes and Billy Bob He sent naked pictures to whom? No, Brad Pitt's not married. Who is the other one? Billy Bob Thornton.
Starting point is 01:04:03 We just fucked. Billy Bob Thornton. We just fucked in the limo. Remember that? Oh, my God. Fucking red carpet interview and how gross that was. Cool. You guys just said sex in the limo.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I think that is kind of cool. I think that's bragging about it. It's the bragging about it afterwards. I hate how attracted to Billy Bob Thornton. I am especially I just watched Love Actually and I was like, damn if he isn't the most attractive guy in this whole movie. Right. Yeah, I could see that.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Not his character, sexual harassment. Not his character because he's gross. But I really, like, I would watch that tape. Oh, yeah, sure. I would definitely watch Billy Bob Thornt and Angelina Jolie. Because you imagine how sensual their fox must have been? Or look at those poster-sized naked photos would be fun as well. Wait, I want to make.
Starting point is 01:04:48 See, that's the thing. I bet they look great in those pictures. Can you imagine would a picture of you with your partner naked in bed would look like? I don't want to see it. I barely want to, like, I can be, I gotta move the mirror. I mean, that's not true. Sometimes I pull out the mirror, but that's in a flat. That's a flash in the pan.
Starting point is 01:05:06 That's while you're having sex, because you're not really like staring at the crevasses. I'm not looking at the man in the mirror. I'm looking at the moo in the mirror. So I'm a fucking cow. Don't you say that about yourself. I'm going to work on it. I got ring fit adventure for the Switch.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I got the Nintendo Switch workout game. I'm going to start. It comes with like a Pilates ring. I'm looking at the moon in. the mirror, moo. I do kind of like, I'm looking at the moo in the mirror. That's okay, it's motivation. It's motivating. It's motivation. Motivation. Motivation, moon bays, which is our new podcast we're coming out with where we dress, we act like cows and we fucking talk about workout stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Wait, wait, wait, movie pitch, cats, but cows. Oh. And we'll call it moo. And by the way, we'll call it movie. Movie. Mo, moo, moo, moo, moo, that's how they'll do their jazz hands. Billy Bob did a recent interview with US Weekly, or Us Weekly, rather, in which he recently told and said him and Jolie were talking. He said, we're good friends. We've been friends for years and years and years.
Starting point is 01:06:13 So we keep up with each other. She's not in town a lot. So we don't see each other much, but we talk. Also, moo-moo, I'm a cow. Mo-moo, I'm a cow. So they still fuck sometimes? Is that what the blind item insinuates, but who knows? He got married to a woman named Connie England in 2014, so for her sake, I hope not.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Your final blind item of 2019 awaits. Oh, what's it going to be? Shall I lift the curtain? Yes, please. I feel the moment. Oh, well. Never one gets a good. Mr. Mustafa.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Hopefully you find this fucking clever. I feel the momentum building. A writer for a weekly tabloid says they have a cover. story ready for a slow week that says this permanent A-list actress is set to marry this A-plus list mostly moving actor who is also her ex. I am sure we can
Starting point is 01:07:09 expect then expect numerous baby stories. They don't care that it isn't true. They know how many copies they will sell. And this is actually, even though this might be too much if we get away, related to the last blind item. Brad Pitt. And, and Angelina Jolie
Starting point is 01:07:25 are going to get remarried? No. Even dumber. Jennifer Ann. I want every blind Adam you ever read. I always want to say Jennifer Aniston. And now it's the one time I don't say it. A source told us weekly, Brad and Jim have a wonderful connection that might seem flirtatious at times. They dig each other's sense of humor and have an infectious energy when they're together.
Starting point is 01:07:48 But they insist things are purely platonic and nothing more than that. Have you guys looked at the tabloids? They have been greasing this up for the past like three months. months of just being like, do you see? They've been seen in the same place during the same week. All right. Okay, they're not fucking each other.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Just because they're friends, does it mean that they're fucking? I've got lots of friends I don't have sex with. That we happen to be in the same place at the same time, many times. I hope that Jennifer Aniston has a better decade than this past one. Sure. Maybe she is totally fine in her life.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I think she's doing great. But she really gets a rough one in the tabloids. I mean, she is, I think, sexier than she used to be. Like, I don't know how she is a vampire and she's so attractive. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah. And she's not even my type, but still, there's just something about her.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I think it's because it's the carefree look of someone that doesn't have children. Yes. I think it's really what it is. I think if you get to that age and they're like, well, I never had kids. So I've been loving. I've just been like working on me. for 49 years, so she looks great. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I would gift my lust to her. Except you're looking at the moo in the mirror. Me, you need to stop working out. You're not a moo. You're not a moo. The more burgers in 2020. Self-love 2020. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Self-love 2020. I got my workouts off. January, I'm going to try to kind of hit the ground running and be good. But this is bad, this is the bad time right now where I'm like, ooh, I only have a couple more days so I'm just eating burgers, slamming IPAs, like it's nobody's business. We're trying to do, except for our tour dates.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Yes. Well, never mind. It's like, I'm trying to be good, but then that's a problem is that instead of going to the gym this morning, I went to Denny's. And that's what I did on my last day, like last day of the year. I'm like, oh, am I going to be good tomorrow?
Starting point is 01:09:52 Right. Oh, I ate a slammer. It was like some sort of slammer. sandwich that had like five pieces of cheese on it had every meat in in there you never want to order like violent sounding food it's never going to be good for you but everything at denies is is called the slammer though you don't have any other options the ballistics missile that's what I ordered like that's what's happening in my intestines right now yeah breakfast ballistics thank you guys so much for joining us on this predominantly cats episode and the last
Starting point is 01:10:26 episode of page seven of the decade, you will be listening to it as the first episode of the decade. And I just want to say thank you guys so much for joining us on this journey because we started page seven in the beginning of this decade. Wow. We sure did. In 2011. Wow. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So this is the culmination. You weren't there for it, Holden, so you are exempt. Never ever congratulate Holden. But Molly and I have been there since, don't you move. And I just want to say, thank you. Thank you guys so much for joining us on this beautiful journey of growth that we have all had. And I wish you, I'm not going to start crying. Yeah, why?
Starting point is 01:11:07 And by the way, journey of growth? Journey of growth, is that really what we're? I don't know, man. I'll fucking know. I'm thinking about cats. I was going to say, are you getting ready to fly away in a hot airboat, Jackie? Because it sounds like you were trying to get picked as the gelical cat. Please send me to the heavy side layer.
Starting point is 01:11:26 ready to fucking go. Suit up the air balloon. I'm a go. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. You can follow me on Instagram at Jack That Worm. My name is Holmignily, Twitch. tv, Twitter, but more importantly, $5 for an extra bonus episode a week.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And that's on patreon.com forward slash page 7 podcast. You're very good at it. All right. And Molly? I'm Molly Neffle and I'm on Instagram at MJK LK. And congratulations, Molly.
Starting point is 01:11:52 You have, you've become a mother this decade. I sure have. Twice. I've become a mother in the last breath of this decade. And it has been a journey of growth. Put me on the hot air balloon. Journey of growth. All right, you get the hot air balloon.
Starting point is 01:12:08 You get it. You got to go. The kids have to go with you because I can't. I am not ready to raise children. I love you guys. And we'll, uh-oh. We'll talk to you next year. You fuckers!
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