Page 7 - Pop History: Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve

Episode Date: December 31, 2019

Happy New Year's! We celebrate the end of 2019 by exploring the creation and enduring legacy of Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve.    Chicago, Pontiac and Milwaukee, the party doesn't end on New Year's! Get your tickets for Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser LIVE, Jan. 9, 10 & 11.  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's Jackie Worm Times, Zabrowski, she's made of worms. Here to invite you to the Page 7 and Wizard and the Bruiser live show in January. We're going to be in Chicago. We're going to be in Pontiac. We're going to be in Milwaukee. So come out and visit us. You can go to Last Podcast Network.com slash P7 Live to get tickets. I think you might like it.

10, 9, 8. Guys. Everyone get your drinks. Everyone get ready to kiss Come on Just find a stranger What does it matter Not two

Right time not the right time What happy new year Jackie and Natalie Happy New Year holding And Natalie Jackie your kisses are very aggressive I know I'm gongongongongong Um

Honestly New Year's Eve really just makes me think of how many times I've cried at midnight Is that bad Oh, boy. I do that feeling, definitely that feeling when you don't have anyone to kiss and you're desperately looking for someone to kiss. That or the feeling when you're with someone that doesn't want to kiss you

and then you find them kissing someone else. When did that happen? Then it's like, oh, it's New Year's, it's New Year's when you're on stage. Whoa. When you're on stage performing and you kiss someone else and then like, I was like, but that's the first kiss of the year. You can't, I mean, you know, in New Year's, everyone kisses everybody and that's fine. But that's the first kiss of the year.

Who I got a punch. Who I got a punch. You know. Oh, I know it is. Did that really happen? Yeah. Who was the girl? Who was the girl?

Some flusy. Whoa. What? No. It was a friend. Let's you would rip my fucking dick off if I tried that. Right? And I didn't because I was very drunk and we were on stage performing.

Oh, whatever. That's bullshit. Yeah, that's super bullshit. So you guys. I hate New Year's. No, New Year's is nice. It's wiping clean. And now my life is much of a bunch of

better than it used to be. And these are the things we have to remember during the New Year's because today we are talking about New Year's Rock and Eve and how it came to be. Let's talk about Dick Clark a little bit and let's talk about how we feel. Can we talk about how we feel

about New Year's Rock and Eve? First question I have, is Dick Clark alive? No. Nope. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, very good, good to know, good basis. He's dead.

And that is, yeah, he is past. It's one of those funny things where you feel like this just always existed. So during this research this week was very fascinating to me because I didn't realize like he had to compete. Like he didn't,

this wasn't just a sealed deal for him. He was taking over from the old guard and that New Year's Eve was celebrated in a very different way before Dick Clark and his rock and New Year's Eve come on. Not only that, but you forget that there was a time

when people had to disdain for rock and roll music, you know? And that he was part of the reason why rock and roll became, became the standard. He made it okay. Wait, so you're saying Rocking New Year's Eve

was like a scandalous? It was good. It was like, it was cool. It was hip to watch it. It was hip to be a part of it. It was like a bunch of people essentially in the beginning, in Times Square,

I mean, obviously it's still getting hammered, but just a bunch of hippies smoking a bunch of weed and we'll get into it, but like three dog night is there. Like it's like, it was the hip music. It was the hip thing to do because now I see it as something

that was always on when we were raised. It was every New Year's Eve, we watched Dick Clark, and we went outside, and we would, my father would force us to bang pots and pans. So would my family. Really? You did that too? I think that might be a national tradition. Family is making potts and kids.

Is it? I didn't realize that that was a thing. So also to clarify a little bit, Natalie, I think it's more that the rock, by the time Rock and Eve started happening, it was a little bit more acceptable, but it was actually American bandstand that he hosted that was finally putting rock and roll music on a stage that was because he was so palatable to adults and the youth

adults and parents could see it in a way that made it not the devil's music if that makes sense and I think that he he essentially made rock more pop and more acceptable worldwide than it was up until that time and we'll get into the history of that and how that really how that all led to New Year's Rock and Eve. But honestly, it's kind of crazy that it was the hip thing for generations because, again, now I see it's something that it's usually on at a New Year's Eve party. You usually, I only pay attention until, like, you pay attention to the minute before,

or what we usually do at all of our parties is you have it on the entire time and you look up and go, why the fuck is John Mayer playing? And then you keep having your drunken conversation. Or who the fuck is that? I feel old now. I'm so old. I'm so old. I have no idea who these people are. And that is also until I started really digging in with page seven, that happened almost every single year. I had no idea who was on. And now that I think about it, especially after doing all this research, it does, as opposed to, I was thinking about it as opposed to the Macy's Day parade, where it is people, it is, you know, TLC without left eye that is lip singing, no scrubs, which like, why, we don't know why. You know, like that happened? Yeah, this year. Wow.

Wait, this year. This year. See, this is what I'm saying. No one wants to do the Thanksgiving Day parade. Unless you are in a big band or you're like in the cheerleading groups like all that stuff is cool or you're in Broadway. That's great. But New Year's Eve, it is still a cool thing to be a part of either New Year's Rock and Eve or one of the now affiliated New Year's Eve parties that go on around the world that are also broadcast. And it's not just cool.

it's like incredibly useful for musicians from a marketing standpoint because you're going to be put into homes that normally wouldn't view you because it is just such a national standard. And that's why it's like we talk about the gush doing the gush at the beginning of an episode. Well, this is one of those where it's like, it's hard to like, I can't even really think to gush about this because it's literally just the background of my life every New Year's Eve. It's like this gold standard that's not something I'm like, ooh, oh, I have so many memories of God, Dick Clark's New Year's Rock and Eve is on right now. And I remember when I was 12 years old watching the Dick Clark New Year's Eve,

it's not like that. It's literally just that's what is on TV every single fucking New Year's. And that is pretty unbelievable. It is just this normal, completely just like, oh, this happens at this time every single year. And this is what we watch. It's kind of wild that it became that. And I think that's what the story, that is the story we will tell today, how this became just such a background element.

An institution. Now, Natalie, did you also grew up watching it? I mean, the same way where I just associate it with New Year's Eve parties. Yes. It's like, it's just a staple, like, it's weird to not think about it being there like Saturday Night Live or The Simpsons or something that like we grew up with our entire lives. It was just a thing that existed. And it would be, it almost would feel like a void if it wasn't there even though I don't. sit down and watch it ever.

I mean it's the same thing. Yes, it's the same thing as a Christmas story. The 24-hour Christmas story that plays on TBS every year on Christmas Eve. I couldn't give a fuck about a Christmas story anymore. I have seen it actually, I believe, hundreds of times. You're going to shoot your eye out. Because we just have it on. The second it comes on on New Year's Eve or on Christmas Eve, we just, it is on the background.

It's just on the TV. And it does, it does lend itself to like the feeling and, like, like it gives you a feeling of nostalgia and love and you know the good parts of the holidays so you're not thinking about the bad parts of the holidays. Exactly and I think that it also it really does define a generation which was our parents and our older siblings

things like that that always have the television on. I think it's a kind of it is the generation that grew up without it and then the second they got it is the novelty and I feel it's the same way as we are with computers where in our specific generation where we didn't have computers when we were young, young, and now that we had them when we were in middle school,

in high school, we became obsessed with it because it was something that was novelty for our specific generation. And I feel like our parents always have to have something on. Our television, and every room of the house, there is a television on, the channel never changes. It is always on this. And my, because any channel you want, cops is playing somewhere. And my father is watching it. Right. Well, I'm with your father on that one. If I go to a hotel, now it's live PD, I believe they changed it. But every time I stay in a hotel.

Yeah, it's a different show, yeah. The first thing I do is turn on the television and find the cops and watch the cops for however many hours I'm allotted to watch the cops. But I will say this. Yes, if I go to a party and it's not on TV, I will like actually make a point. Oh, I'll ask for it. Yeah, I will put it on. Also, though, maybe it's not, maybe it's the background of our lives, but that makes me want to share a couple of fun New Year's Eve

shenanigan stories. So here's my first one. Yeah, please. There was the New Year's Eve in high school. I think it was sophomore and junior year where I took it upon myself to drink an entire big flask of Schmernaff 100, like, before the party even started. It's been like the entire night in

this was back when I just drank 100 proof vodka. Of course. Of course. As a plastic model of vodka. Whatever's the strongest thing you can find. Yeah, so that you can drink as much of it as possible and almost died. It was the most efficient way to get hammered, even though it tasted like death, and it made you feel like that very

quickly after finishing. So I remember I spent that whole New Year's in in the bathroom pretty much with hearing Dick Clark in the background while I vomited profusely. Welcome to adulthood. And then do you remember, so MurderFist used to put on New Year's shows a lot of times

too. Murderfuss was our sketch comedy group and we would almost always, usually we would try and shoot like, we're going to finish last sketch, we're going to jump off stage, and then we're going to countdown to midnight and it never worked like that. Do you remember the one

where we were doing the countdown at Garth who had did something similar with drinking leading out to that? A friend of ours, yes. Fucking projectile bombed all over like the first three rows that were in front of him.

Sitting and watching it and threw up everywhere. I didn't even know what happened. I just heard like, oh, and then just like a line of people to run to the bathroom of which there was only one.

And it was a bunch of girls. too. I mean, it's pretty on brand for a murderfish show, though. You guys would throw fake vomit on the audience. This is just like an organic version. Oh my God, it was so sad for so many people, including our friend Cap, who his whole night

was ruined. He had to just go home. Yeah. I was right during the countdown, too. It was like so perfectly timed. So anyways, those are my couple of memories. Do you guys have anything? I'm impressed that you have solid New Year's Eve memories because I don't

really, I'm trying to like go through the catalog of New Year's Eve's in my head. I'm just like, that's the problem is most of them are either traumatizing or sad, or I don't remember them. Most of them I just don't have any, I mean, I started getting hammered on New Year's Eve when I was about 15. And it's been that way ever since. Yay. But I can, I can recall the grossest things I remember for murderfish shows.

Oh, no, no, no. See, my problem is I was always scared. I was a very timid, quiet child. and the fact that our father would force us to bang the pots and pans out on the lawn You really did this? This was real? Actually, yes. I thought you were fucking around. That's a great man. Okay, so that's a legit. Why? Why?

It's apparently, I think, I thought it was just a way for our family too. I thought it was just a way for our drunk father to just, you know, torture us. No. No, my grandma started. Like, my grandma did it. My parents would make us do it, yeah. It's very upsetting. It's very, now as an adult, I think it's very funny. and I get it, but as a very timid. You're a timid child. Oh, yeah.

Really? Yeah, Henry always spoke for me. Oh, wow. Interesting. Huh. Hmm, therapy. Wow. Interesting.

I was very quiet. I want to get away from that as fast as I possibly can, so let's jump into the history. Why? Don't you guys like traumatic memories? Let's get into the Times Square ball and its history, which I really love learning about. I love to learn about a ball. I'm going to go in and throw it out. there, this ball is big.

I kept saying that to myself as I did the... I was like, man, that's one big ball. And I kept laughing to myself. Indeed, it is, Jackie. You know, we should have pretended we were hosts of time of the Rockeners Eve doing this episode. Oh, that's a big ball. Indeed, it is Natalie.

That's a big ball. You couldn't be any more correct. So the new Times Square ball is located on the roof of one time square. It descends a specifically designed flagpole starting at 1159 p.m. E.T. Eastern Standard on the dot resting at the bottom of the pole at midnight. Times Square in New York City became the destination for New Year's Eve celebrators starting in 1904. But it was in 1907 that the ball made its first dirty drop.

And what was that ball made of? Oh, fuck. It was made of iron and wood, you fucking piece of shit. It was covered in 125 watt bulbs weighing 700 pounds. Jackie said it. I literally just described how big it was, so I don't understand what it was. 700 pounds. You got to up the ante.

We got to shock this ball. Now all three of us have heard everything. High, height, that, ball! And also, I will say, before time, it was Times Square, Trinity Church was the place to ring in the new year. I think you're lying. I'm not lying. Trinity Church, so it's a big old,

it's one of those big old cathedrals like at St. Patrick's. I just remember that the kids I used to nanny for, there's still a very fancy school that is aligned with Trinity Church. Is it in Manhattan? Yes. And it's where a lot of, like, the celebrity kids go and things like that live in Manhattan. Burn it down. And so Trinity Church was.

the place to go before Times Square. Huh. Well, and then Times Square, it was, started off. There wasn't the ball or anything like that. And the only reason why it ended up in Times Square was because of a man named Adolf Ox, the owner of the New York Times newspaper. And it was first organized

for the launch of the newspaper. And there was no ball. There was just fireworks, which is stupid and boring. But no, it's not stupid. I love the fireworks. And they wanted to actually, they weren't going to do the ball. They didn't give a fuck about a ball. They said no ball. They said no ball.

They said they like the fireworks, but they, um, the city in an attempt to, I don't know, to ban the revelry, to not allow them to have fun. The city banned fireworks in,

on Manhattan Island. Ah. So that they couldn't put the fireworks off anymore. I mean, they also say they wanted to stand out more. Uh, it was actually the newspaper's chief electrician, Walter F.

Palmer who suggested they used a time ball. And a time ball is actually an obsolete time signaling device used by navigators aboard. ships offshore to verify the setting of their own clocks for accurate timekeeping and was first used by the ancient Greeks. You wanted to do this episode!

How did we do this? Ball facts! Ball facts! It was used by the ancient Greeks originally, which I do think that part is actually kind of interesting. It is cool. This is cool. It's cool. I'm sorry I snored through it. I actually read about time balls for a while because there are a lot of time balls

that are still in use and I think it's kind of cool. I'm like, I started out, I was like, just getting high in college. I want to do comedy, right? So I started working with these guys. We start putting up funny sketches. All of a sudden, cut you 20 years later. I've learned about fucking time balls. The fuck is even going.

It's even, what is this? It's fun. Are you listening to are you having fun right now? This moment is the pinnacle of your life, hold it. So enjoy it. It's all going down. Enjoy it, hold it. The ball was designed by ArtCraft Strauss.

This is actually, again, This is, we'll use the phrase, this is actually interesting. Yes, it is. He was pretty much the guy behind all of the signage in Times Square, which that phrase alone sounds boring, but if you think about it, like, he did the smoking camel sign where he had like the actual smoke billowing out of it. No, he did all the new inventive signs of what makes Times Square,

what makes New York so notable for. Makes Times Square so anxiety-reddled and so horrible to walk through. But it's beautiful. Yeah. Depending. Yeah. Well, and I mean, he did, I feel like it was a lot cooler back in the day because it was all mechanical. And it was all way, it wasn't just this like giant LED fucking psychotic nightmare.

No, it's like why the circus liquor in North Hollywood still look so cool. It's like those old school designs of just like, man, that's still up. Isn't that awesome? And it's also where a share was almost assaulted. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So Arcraft Strauss had a company called Strauss Signs. And he hired a Russian immigrant named Jacob Starr, who became the company's principal builder,

and that is the guy who actually built the ball, which has gone through many design changes and features computerized LED lighting and an outer surface of triangular crystal panels today. So there's these little triangles, and they're all crystally and stuff. You kind of know what, if you look at the ball, you can kind of see what we're talking about. And actually, yeah, there have been seven versions of the ball. We're not going to go into each kind because I was a, like, I started writing the notes of each, of how it changed and how it evolved over time. No, no, no, no. But I will say look up pictures because it is pretty cool because it is, it does show exactly how time has changed and how electricity is changed and how designing in general has changed, which I think is pretty fucking cool.

And the event is attended by at least one million spectators annually, which is closed off to traffic beginning in the late afternoon. The square is then divided into different sections referred to as pins, which attendees are directed to as they arrive, who have to pass through security checkpoints. And this is the part I don't understand why anyone would ever fucking go do this. But backpacks and alcohol are prohibited. Yeah, Times Square on New Year's Eve does look like what would be my punishment for like a terrible crime. Yes, it's a nice thing. You can't put me in the middle. You can't pee. You can't leave.

You can't move. You are compressed in with strangers. I can't imagine how. many robberies and assaults like happen in the middle of that fucking cluster fuck of people. It's ridiculous. I don't understand why anyone would do it, but at the same time, it is always special and always kind of wonderful to see it as a staple of New Year's Eve, that just this massive crowd in Times Square.

My mom told me a story. She went in the late 70s to ring in New Year's in Times Square. And she said, I was there and you had to get there. You still even back then had to get there pretty early to get a spot. and she was puked on within an hour of being there and then she wasn't allowed to go anywhere so she just had to stand around in the cold covered in puke.

At least they distribute party favors to the folks. Wow. Yeah, usually nowadays it's like, I think last year it was sponsored by Planet Fitness so everybody was just wearing like stuff that said Planet Fitness all on the top of it, which is pretty cool. Yeah.

This year it is Powerball Lottery and they're doing a big promotion to find out who will be the first millionaire of 2020. That is fun. Will the ball be a big power ball? That would be hilarious. Oh, that's kind of fun. Wouldn't it? Actually, which I thought that this was pretty cool.

There's only two years in the history of the ball that the ball was not dropped. And that was in 1942 and 1933 when the ceremony was suspended due to the wartime, quote, dim out of lights in New York City. Yes. Nevertheless, the crowd still gathered in Times Square in those years and, greeted the new year with a minute of silence, followed by the ringing of chimes from sound trucks parked at the base of the tower. Wow, fun. I think it's cool. Isn't that fun? It's wartime facts. Can you imagine trying to get the turds alive now to be quiet for a minute? No, my God, impossible. No. No. The drop is activated by a special guest each year by pressing a button on a small model of the

ball, which actually doesn't do anything. Somebody else in a different room activates it. Of course. And at midnight, around 3,000 pounds of confetti is dropped. dropped in Times Square, which is directed by Treb Heining, who I would like to learn more about. Don't worry, I got some Treb facts. Treb facts. This guy is just a brief overview. He is known for his balloon designs and confetti drops for Disney Parks, Natalie, as well, because you like a music park.

You like a music park, and you love confetti. Other notable big events. That's such a cool job. He's like Mr. Balloon and Confetti. You know what also Mr. Balloon and Confetti is in charge of? His confetti dispersal engineers, which is what he refers to, the people that help him throw the confetti for New Year's Eve by hand. See, that would be fun. He doesn't by hand.

Do you have Treb facts on how you become a confettist? There is a years-long list, and he has a whole company. So it is like they do lotteries within the company of people that get chosen. And then outside of it, there's years and years long because he says using cannons would be risky. Because if there was a loss of power, there would be no confetti. So it's better to do it an old fashion way. He says, I tell people, this effect is world renowned, but you are the ones that make it happen. This is him talking to is confetti dispersal engineers.

Your hands are what make it happen. Get ready. You're the ones who are going to make it spectacular to see. Okay, but does Treb actually, what makes him? A confetti specialist, does he chop up the paper and make the confetti? No, he is the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the enduistro of the confetti. Yeah, he demands, he doesn't cut, do anything himself.

He gets carried in a pillow. Does he choose the colors of the confetti? No, I think it's all the same colors, but I will say it was his idea that I didn't know this, in the confetti are thousands of wishes. Yes, wishes. From the Times Square Alliance, people write their wishes and resolutions on thousands of of multi-colored pieces of paper, and they put them up on the wishing wall,

which is set up the entire month of December between 46th and 47th streets, and you write down your hopes and dreams for the next year, you put it up on the wall, and they take all the things of the wall, and they include it in the confetti. Well, my hope for this next year is a better future for the nation's youth.

And maybe some gun laws in there. Yeah, I guess, but also, like, I want a pony. What if the, what if the, wishes are like they want all the juice to die. I mean, I think maybe they weed out those wishes. I mean, the confetti just worse than legions. You know, they're top tier. I hope so. I hope somebody's in charge of that.

By the way, so this is thrown by a team of 100 volunteers on the lining the rooftops of eight Times Square buildings. And cleanup is performed overnight by the New York City Department of Sanitation. They claim that they clear over 50 tons of refuse from Times Square in eight hours done by 190 workers. And it's literally shut down overnight. And by the time it reopens early in the morning, it is as if nothing ever happened.

And what's the normal amount of disgusting. Yes. And under by Treb facts as well, he's always surprised by the amount of people that take confetti home as a souvenir for their time and time square. That's not surprising to me. Yeah, so it doesn't help.

You know, it helps as part of the cleanup. Yeah. All right, that's enough about the fucking ball. Okay, let's talk about Dick fucking Clark. Dick Clark, you know what? Delight. And I figured he'd be an inspirational character. character of sorts. But man, just he's a, he's a stand-up gentleman. Oh, yeah. Born and raised in

Mount Vernon, New York in 1929, his older brother and only sibling was killed in the Battle of the Bulge in World War II. I always laugh at the Trees Battle of the Bulge, though. It is difficult. Have you ever referred to Sexist Battle of the Bulge? My grandfather, who's passed away on my mother's side, I believe, fought in the Battle of the Bulge, which is kind of fucking nuts. Yeah, but I bet it was a funny battle. It was a silly battle. Yeah, that was the battle where Benny Hill first wrote the song inspired by the sights and sounds.

Mr. Hitler, are you talking about Dix? That's what they kept saying. I'm sorry to make light of Battle of the Bulger was very, very terrible. We're all stopped. Baby people can't go to work. So initially, Dick Clark wanted a career in radio, and this is as early as 10 years old. He ends up

going to Syracuse University getting a degree in advertising with a minor in radio in 1951. You know, he said that he initially wanted to be in radio when he saw a radio broadcast done by Gary Moore and Jimmy Durant. Durante, I think. Durante? Yes. In an old theater, New York.

He said, this is what I want. I was 13. I got my first check in radio when I was 17, and I've been doing it ever since. Isn't that crazy? Like, when you're that young, like, this is what I want to do. And then you do it for the rest of your life. I do also, I think at that time, you were sort of forced into an adulthood very young. Yes.

Yes, yeah. He wasn't around to dilly dally, I guess. In 1945, Clark gets a mailroom job at an AM radio station in Rome, New York that was owned by his uncle and managed by his father. So I think a lot of the influence came out of that situation. It's a family affair. Exactly. He also worked at a country music station in Syracuse, but returned to WRUN in Rome to host radio programs under the name Dick Clay. And I think maybe he was trying to separate himself from the family name a little bit.

Parents, yeah. Just because they were so tied into the network, he didn't want to be like a daddy's boy. His first television hosting job came by way of a country music program again at a station in Utica, New York, and the show was called Cactus Dick and the Santa Fe riders. Yeah, that's a porn I'd like to say. Oh, yeah, right.

Jesus cry. I would not want to see a woman's vagina would get ripped to shreds by a cactus. Yeah, that's a... I just meant more like Cactusy in personality. Oh, you didn't want it to actually have spikes on the penis. No. on the penis. No, I want him to be like scared to love me.

Well, that led to a newscaster job, uh, Jackie and Natalie. Oh. And, uh, in the early, in the early 50s, he moved to a suburb of Philadelphia and got a job as a disc jockey at WFIL, which was associated with the television station WPVI. And this is how he ends up on American bandstand. It was like this weird conversion. So the TV station broadcast a show starting in 1952 called Bob Horn's Bandstand. And Dick Clark was doing like, the radio version of that show.

But he was subbing in for Horn on the TV show when Horn couldn't make it up until Horn was arrested for, wah-want-drun driving in 1956. Yikes. After which, Clark took over full-time. And not too long after that, I bet Horn is kicking himself because only one year later, ABC picks up American bandstand in 1957.

It was the first network TV show to feature rock and roll. So at first, right? Is that crazy? First aired nationally in 1957, and it ran until 1987. I didn't realize that it was on for 30 years. Wow. That now that you're also bringing that up, Holden, I didn't realize that it was just a continuation,

essentially, of a show that already existed. So really, if you think about it, Dick Clark was the fulcrum. He was a part of the fulcrum to take America from radio broadcasting into television broadcasting. Isn't it creepy to think about that started whenever around when our parents were born and then it ended about when we were born. That's crazy.

That wild. And that fucking nuts. So we mentioned this earlier, but just to reiterate, it really was Clark's ability to connect with the youth while also coming off as non-threatening to the older audiences at home, which allowed us to, like, and this is probably my favorite thing of the whole episode of research that we did, that he was really the one who bridged the gap because it really was a gap. I mean, you think about, you know, even when we did like our episode on Dungeons and Dragons, that was satanic, or viewed as satanic by adults.

Just anything new that's like they don't understand. Yeah, we got, we fixed all that and everything's, it works now. No, we're afraid of things anymore. No, Dick Clark is the perfect, like, what is it called a psych? You know, like in the back of a theater that is a, it's a plain background that you use a bunch of lights to make it all be fancy. I feel like Dick Clark is that neutral background. He was referred to as... Good metaphor, Jackie.

Yeah. He was referred to as the world's oldest teenager, not only for his youthful looks, but also with how he was able to connect with different generations just by being himself. But also, this was not easy per se. Clark said, I was roundly criticized for being in and around rock and roll music

at its inception. It was the devil's music. It would make your teeth fall out and your hair turned blue, whatever the hell. You get through that. Yeah. I love it. And also,

Not forgetting, too, that American Bansan was one of the first national television programs where blacks and whites performed on the same stage and the live audience seating was desegregated. Pre-Clark, the Bansan show, had an all-white policy. It was Dick Clark himself who forced that to go away, which is really cool. Well, Dick Clark, bridging all of these gaps and bringing all these people together, wouldn't that be the devil's best trick of all? Interesting. So, is Dick Clark the devil?

Oh, yeah. I don't want to disturb you, Jackie, but I've looked at some old footage of American bandstands, and you can see in the background a tall redhead dancing seductively to rock and roll music with big black frame glasses.

Natalie! Who looks a lot like Natalie? What if I just disappeared in a cloud of smoke? He was like, well, and we never saw her again. What would I have to say to Henry? He would have me murdered because he would think that I killed you.

Natalie's an always person. She's always been. here and we think she actually might straight up. She's an Eternna beauty. You're an eternal beauty that's eternally around. I think that would make Henry more horny for me. Yeah, actually, I think he would just be way more. And it's just like waiting by the door like, she'll come back someday.

She's in an eternal beauty. She'll be back someday. Except you're never going to be back because you're going to move on. Highlander. What does it? No, Outlander. So the Dick Clark show debuted by the way. Oh, yeah.

Okay. So in 1958, there is also the Dick Clark show, which debuted on 8. ABC and it was an American musical variety show that was broadcast on Saturday nights and ran until 1960 for 136 episodes. He had musical guests that, quote, performed their songs, which is usually followed by an interview. I say quote, perform because a lot of times it was lip syncing. He also interviewed other celebrities between performances, which would give them a guaranteed sales boost because it had a viewership of over 20 million, which is unbelievable. Of course, it's back in the day when there were only three channels, but still. It was staged live in New York City.

did a review of the top 10 songs from that week's top 40 and go over all of them and stuff. And that started this thing like a trend of using top 10 lists. Apparently it even inspired like David Letterman to do his top 10. Hell yeah. It came from this. So it had musical acts like Johnny Cash, Sam Cook, Buddy Holly, the Isley brothers, the Shirelles, Fats Dominoes. And there's so many, Fats Domino rather, there's so many others. I couldn't even get into it.

So he moved bandstand to Los Angeles in 1964 to cater towards the new group of surf bands. Oh, my breasts. I'm grabbing your breasts. I'm sorry. I'm grab my breasts. I'm sorry. Well, here, I'm going to make you ungrab your breasts because I'm specifically referring to the Beach Boys.

You know when an ex-partner has an obsession with the band then he can never listen to the band ever again? Yeah. Enter the Beach Boys. There you go. It's dead to me. It's dead to me. So Bandstand ran up until 1988.

So yeah, I was six years old when Bandstand ceased. By 1990, over two-thirds of those initiated into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame made their television debut on American Bandstand. Nuts. Which featured over 10,000 live performances. Clark said, Damn. My talent is bringing out the best and other talent, organizing people to showcase them and being able to survive the order. deal. What I love is that he also included a lot of people that had never been on television

before, and some of the huge artists that he had their first TV appearances on bandstand was Buddy Holly, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, The Jackson Five, and Madonna, which isn't like their first TV appearances. That's so crazy. It's wild. It's wild. He said, I hope someday that somebody will say that in the beginning stages of the birth of the music of the 50s, though I didn't contribute in terms of creativity, I helped keep it alive. Hell yeah, you did. So through Bandstand, he is largely credited with creating a youth culture through that time where none existed.

And starting in 1963, Clark got into the game show host, Biz. He started off with a show called The Object Is, but the main one he was known for was the $10,000 pyramid, which I totally remember that show. Oh, yeah. You watched it when you were sick. Yeah. And of course. From school.

That was on CBS. in a premiere into 1973, he won three Emmys for Best Game Show host. And that show ended also in 1988. You know what I love about Dick Clark is that he never really, he never pretends to be anything that he's not, even though I think that he was almost too humble about how much he had to contribute for not only American music, but as well as television. And he had this quote that I actually really enjoyed.

He said, I've always dealt with light, frivolous things that didn't count. But I'm not ashamed of that because I think there's so much heaviness in our lives. Somebody's got to be the class clown. And I really like, I love that he knew his place of what he was doing and was fine with it. We not only liked it, but embraced it. I would argue that in a way that type of work can be more important in people's lives. Yes, a thousand percent. And I mean, it's times like, you know, with everything that's happening, we never get into politics.

I don't want to start right now. but everything is so rough out there that I like, whenever I look in myself, I'm like, well, what do I do to change things? What do I do to be a part of things? And it's things like this, that you have to listen to things that are like, you know what?

This just makes me smile. This doesn't make me think of the heaviness of things, and that's what Dick Clark brought to the world. And I, you know, he was one of the pioneers. All I hear is that sounds like the devil. Yeah. Yeah. The devil's play things.

Before. So this is probably my second mode. interested moment of doing research was before Dick Clark, Guy Lombardo and his Royal Canadiens was the show. Had never heard of it. Yeah, never heard of it. Did you bring this up to your parents? No, I should ask them about it.

I asked my mom about it and she goes, oh my God, I forgot about that. She's like, my parents used to watch. Like, my grandparents used to watch Guy Lombardo and his royal Canadians. He was a big band guy. And for 48 straight years, they did the New York. Year's Eve broadcast. And Guy Lombardo was the band leader, of course, and broadcasted a big band show from the ballroom of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel. I need to go back and look up actual footage, too. Oh my God, there is actual footage, too. It's nuts. It is the opposite of New Year's

Rock and Eve. Yeah, it's very hoity. It's like old person. It looks like the shining. Yeah. It said, it said the show pretty much never changed in the 48 years. It essentially was lots of elegant people dining and dancing with Lombardo, the Royal Canadians to play classic waltzes and other danceable songs. Oh, the Richies, huh? It was the Richies. Yes. And their richy upper class New Year's Eve.

So it started on radio in 1928, and it moved to CBS television from 1956 to 1976. The TV show featured coverage of the Times Square ball drop, but it didn't exactly take place there. And it was known for, he was known, this is my favorite thing. I did not know this. he is actually credited in his band for the reason why we sing Aldenang Sign every year at New Year's. Because he played it.

Yeah, it was because they would play it. And that's why we do that as like an absolute standard every New Year's Eve now. And so Guy Lombardo is actually referred to for all this time as Mr. New Year's Eve. And he started in the Roosevelt Hotel in 1929, which is he was another beginning of bringing it from, he also helped in bringing a radio broadcast to television.

and he was the pioneer that Dick Clark needed to fully change over everything. So Guy Lombardo was the actual start of that happening. Yeah, and that show ended with his death in 1977. In fact, Lombardo had even joked that he planned to take the holiday with him when he died. But he didn't, but he didn't take the show with him. He didn't, but he did take the show, which left the doors wide open for a new New Year's Eve special. So, Clark, feeling Lombardo specials were outdated, decided to create a competing special for younger viewers.

And New Year's Rock and Eve was chosen as the title to show said contrast. The first one featured Three Dog Night, which is why it was called Three Dog Nights New Year's Rock and Eve. Which I love, it was not only called Three Dog Nights New Year's Rock and Eve, but also was hosted by George Carlin the first two years, which there is also clips of that online that I implore you to look up, because it is cool to see it's such a vast difference. from what Lombardo was doing.

So you have to think, this started in the end of the year, 1972. So there were five years of overlap between Lombardo still doing the end of his show and then Dick Clark, not getting that many ratings, not getting that rainy ratings, and desperately being like, I am going to get the youth to watch this show

and pulling out all the stops. And it was every hit person that could be on this show was on the show. And of course, in the first couple of years, didn't really have many viewership until Lombardo died. He knew he could never take over Lombardo while Lombardo was alive. So he was essentially just setting the stage to take over as soon as Lomardo passed away, which is very smart. That first special had Al Green.

It had blood, sweat, and tears. It was, you know, and by the way, those performances all took place in the ballroom of the Queen Mary, which was a retired British Ocean liner in Long Beach, California. Still there. Still there, yeah. Is it? Yeah, you can still go. Oh, really cool.

So Clark did, while this was happening, Clark is doing live coverage in the style of a reporter in Times Square before and after the ball drop. There was no countdown the first time. It's so funny to watch it. Did you see that? He's just like, they're like, you watch the ball slowly drop, but he's not counting down at all. And then he just goes, it's now 1973. As of now. It was like so underplayed.

And it was just him on a ladder joined by just his wife and the camera guy and the sound guy. That was it. And then all these years, there's so many interviews of people that are like, I mean, you must get hammered while you're doing this. You got to do this. But actually, Dick Clark was sober his entire life. And so was his wife. He never drank. And especially on New Year's Eve, he never drank.

Also the trick a devil would play. Interesting. Also at this same time in 1974, after ABC lost their broadcasting rights to the Grammy Awards, Dick Clark created the American Music Awards for them so that ABC would have their own music awards. Gotcha, of which Taylor Swift just got named, Artist of the Decades of the decade. All right, all right.

The show then moves to ABC in 1975 and was then, at that point, set in Chicago. I believe Chicago, the band was like the headliner that year. After Lombardo's death, though, in 1977, CBS was never able to recover with the New Year's Eve show and Dick Clark's Rockin' show took over as the most watched special during the holiday. Dick Clark hosted every single year from 1973 to 1999. Then there was like one year where they did something different for the year 2000.

In the year 2000, not one person hosted New Year's Rock and Eve because ABC presented a day-long telecast called ABC 2000 Today that presented coverage of international and U.S. festivities celebrating the arrival of the year 2000. Dick Clark was still the correspondent from Times Square. I remember watching that, but we were all terrified because we all thought we were going to die at midnight. Yes, everybody thought we were going to die because of Y2K. But did they, they still kept Times Square open? They did. They did the whole thing. I couldn't remember. Yeah, he broadcasts from there. There was also Peter Jennings, Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters, uh, involved, among many other broadcasters. They just wanted to make a bigger deal out of the holiday. It was like

a day-long event because it was, you know, the end of the millennium or whatever. Also, I did Like, I saw this in a couple of places. In 1997, Dick Clark went on Oprah Winfrey, and two female audience members complimented Clark for being single women's dates on New Year's Eve. And Oprah Winfrey replied, you're right. As a single woman, because I remember all my years in Baltimore, that's what you do. You turn dick on to help you through the night. And then everyone lost their minds because Oprah is usually much more composed than that, but it's a fucking dick joke. And that's great.

That's awesome. I mean, there were also a bunch of different co-hosts throughout the years. You had cast members from Happy Days in Dukes of Hazard, and hanging with Mr. Cooper, Margaret Cho. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. Steve Harvey, who would end up going on to host his own New Year's Eve event, Stacy Dash and Donald Faison from Cluelas, among many others. Also, performances over these decades included, I mean, there's too many to name. I just have a few here. Barry Manilow, Blondie, Kiss, Melissa.

Why do you say Barry Manelow like he's nothing? I don't know. Very, I don't know. Very metal. Salt and Peppa, Weird Al Yankovic. Yeah. The presidency United States is America. Oh my God.

I do love Presidency, United States. It's America. Is that? Oh, the band. That was one of the first concerts I ever went to. We should do that. We should do that as a pop history. Isaac Hayes, Lou Reed, Joan Osborne, and Noddy by Nature, just to name a few.

Clark would also make special guest appearances as his Rock and New Year's persona on Friends. The Simpsons. And Forrest Gump actually has in the scene at the bar. Oh yeah. It actually has footage of the very first Rockaneers Eve that he's hosting from Times Square. But, I mean, he did a lot of special guest spots, Futurama. There was a ton of that stuff. Clark said that he started the day at around 5 in the morning promoting the event on radio.

This is like a 24-hour situation pretty much. He spends hours outdoors in the cold. And he's done it. He's done it sick. He's done it well. He's done it every single fucking year. And except for the one. year, but he was still a correspondent.

And then the show did return after the year 2000 and expanded into prime time. So they started at 10 p.m. instead of like 11 with additional segments and pre-recorded musical performances. And then he also said of the 2001-2002 celebration, he said that was the most nerve-wracking due to the 9-11 attacks. But they still... Damn. I mean, now that's when all of the security was put in

and there was nowhere near as much security before then. And that was, I forgot it was like 700,000. Like it was, the number was astronomical, the amount of police officers. But in 2001, they kept everything open. Yeah, and it was right after too, which that's scary. That's crazy. I would, yeah, I would not have been caught dead at Times Square. I mean, ever usually and on your seat, but definitely that year would have been risky.

I guess that would have been the best year to go, though. Yeah, because nothing's got less people. Yeah. And so in 2004, sadly, Clark was hospitalized after suffering a minor stroke. and Regis Philbin ended up having to stand in for Clark very last minute. Because, yeah, the stroke was like two weeks before New Year's too. And he kept saying, like, I can do it, I can do it. But he couldn't do it.

And he did return for the 0506 festivities. But this is when he is joined by American Idol host Ryan Seacrest. I think it is funny, though, when he is referred to as the world's oldest teenager, that he happened to have found another vampire almost that looks at the world's oldest teenager. Another person that does not age. That is like, how do you have something against Ryan Seacrest

because if he was in front of me, I wouldn't realize it was him. You know what I mean? Not that I'm saying that in a bad way, it's just he could get away with whatever he wanted to get away with because like, that one, I don't know. The other guy was a trick. Yeah.

The greatest trick. Another devil, if you will. So also, I can't believe it took until, the 2005-2006 festivities for them to have their first actual live performance inside Times Square. And that was done by Mariah Carey. I don't believe this was the infamous one. I think that was later, right?

No, the later one, yeah. That was just like two years ago, wasn't it? Yeah, it was in 2016, but we'll get into that. Oh, yeah. So, Dick Clark's role was limited. And at one point, during the broadcast, he said, oh, this is so sad. Strokes make me so scared. He said, last year I had a stroke, it left me in bad shape.

I had to teach myself how to walk and talk again. It's been a long, hard fight. My speech is not perfect, but I'm getting there. I remember that year, too, because it was very upsetting and very sad. Because, again, it was a staple that you had grown up with, that it was almost like, well, what do we do if Clark's not on New Year's, you know? And it was after the 2006 edition that Ryan Cicrest agrees to remain host going forward with Clark's role reduced further and further.

He just had like little bits right before the countdown, all that kind of stuff. They got him in there, but it was like as much as they could, but they couldn't do a lot. And it was in 2009, the special was officially renamed Dick Clark's New Year's Rock and Eve with Ryan Seacrest. You also have Ginny McCarthy coming into the fold. She started what would become a decade of correspondent work

for the program in 2010. She would notably kiss a police officer at midnight that she grabbed randomly, and that changed after she got married. So that officer, Bekeem Bakash, he was age 26, and they had actually, I remember seeing this and was like, wow, Jenny McCarthy just grabbed that cop and didn't ask and just sucked on his face. Oh, I'm sure he was. The staffers went and asked him beforehand if she could, if she could kiss him. And his response was, who wouldn't? And then he said afterwards, she fell into my arms and we had a kiss.

I thought it was just going to be a little peck on the cheek, but it was a more lengthy kiss. The steamy smooch scene around the world appeared to last at least 15 seconds with McCarthy grabbing the back of Bacaja's cap and kicking up her leg as the 9th precinct cop clutched it. Well, I'm glad they asked him. Yes, they did ask him, which I think is good. But I will say, I know she gets a lot,

she's kind of gone down in like, God, I can't use my words right now. People don't like her as much more because of the vaccine stuff, but I will say that I have J-O'd. Of course you have. Yeah. Obviously, I think everyone has.

I have, yeah. And I had, I even had to look it up I was like, I just Googled like Ginny McCarthy's sexy because I hadn't,

you know, to take a little walk down J.O. Memory Lane. Yes. Remember the years and all this little, there was a montage play to my head of me just pulling that

hand soap out and, you know, just slowly kind of just masturbating as I grew older. Yeah, as you grew older. As the seconds ticked on with your. It was a very like big mouth style moment for me where I just had like a hilarious montage.

I remember the days when she posed for Maxim. And then she posed for Playboy Yucket. Did you, I don't even want to know if he jerked off again to it. No, I didn't. Oh, okay. Wow, that's nice. No, I would have been, yeah. I guess I did want to know.

I guess he did want to know. Yeah, you can't anymore. She's bringing about another plague. Yeah, that's not sexy. That's not sexy. I couldn't do it for the children. So let's get sad again. So Lucy Hale, by the way,

so Jay McCarthy would do, would host for a decade. Lucy Hale of Pretty Little Liars is taking over for her. Oh, yeah, she is, which again, world's oldest teenager. I feel like it is. They're just picking another person. It's like, all right, what other young person can we put on

that will never, ever change through father time? Who does like, who would be like in Peter Pan's coven? Yeah, essentially. It's Lucy Hale. So Lucy Hale, pretty little liars. She's one of the worst actresses I've ever seen on a TV show, and I'm very excited to see how she's going to handle the event this year. It's going to be great. She's affable.

Dick Clark's final appearance on the program was in 2011, the 2011-2012 edition. He died after suffering a heart attack in April of 2012. ABC celebrated him with a two-hour tribute special. New Year's Rock and Eve celebrates Dick Clark, and that was followed by the 2012-2013 edition of, the special. The ball itself was engraved with Dick Clark's name how I mentioned the little triangle crystal triangles. So they took one of those crystal triangles.

They engraved his name in it. They presented it to his widow and she like licked it or something and then they put it on the ball. I don't think she licked it. Of course. Yeah, yeah. It's a licking stick. I'm sure. Yeah. But she did she did, yeah, they then put it on the ball and it now rests there today. I'd rub it on my pussy. Yeah. Just for him. Yeah. I'm sticky. Just for my hug. Talk about a devil's trick.

So, yeah, Seacrest signed after that a multi-year deal of unspecified length with Dick Clark Productions to take over full-time as host moving forward. And I will say that I thought that in doing this research that I was going to find a lot of other years with like secret flubs or all this drama. And it is because Dick Clark not only had run such a tight ship, but also worked with such respect for everyone that was on this show and the fact that they lip synced for as many years as they had that why nothing had gone wrong. So it really wasn't until, so I started looking into the flubs or what had happened because of course we're going to talk about Mariah Carey.

But it wasn't into, the first thing that people talk about is was in 2014 when Idina Mansell was there to perform, let it go from Frozen. And I wrote, and this is very funny, and that wasn't the only thing that was frozen, it was her vocal cords. Her vocal cords were everyone, everybody knows that everybody knows that if it's very cold outside, it is

difficult for your voice, since your vocal cords cannot stretch the way that they should, or something, something science. You can't hit the notes that you usually would be able to. And that's what happened when Idina Mansell could not hit the top note and let it go. And it was because of the

freezing temperatures. Now, apparently, this is according to this Billboard writer, Menzel did hit all the right notes when she rehearsed at Soundcheck before the performance, but she he also said, she may not have hit the big note, but she hit all the emotional ones. Young kids in the audience

were all so joyful singing along with her. And of course, the internet still ripped her apart, but it was like nine degrees outside. Yeah. And it happens. It's a live performance and that's also why people lip sync, which is again what happened in 2016.

with Mariah Carey. So Carrey, this is the first time that there was a screw up. And of course, by the way, we do tell this tale on our Mariah Carey episodes, which I would also recommend you check out. Yes, please.

Is she a human? So she doesn't hit the note, as we all know, and she has technical problems, and she immediately stopped performing. And, of course, the song kept playing because she was lip-sinking. And the line that she said,

I want a holiday too. She improvised while the music played on. Can I not have one? I'm trying to be a good sport here, but unfortunately, her evil, evil manager, Stella Belalcichinoff, who now we all know is evil, but at the time, she is evil. She is terrifying. She's absolutely evil. And she blamed the network saying that they screwed it up on purpose, that they acknowledged that they knew her inner ears were not working, and they did not cut to a commercial, they did not cut to the West Coast feed, they left her out there to get ratings.

So that is what the publicity for Mariah Carey had put out. So as we all know, she comes back and then the following year to redeem herself, but this is the infamous when she had asked for tea and she did not receive her tea to make sure that her vocal cords were warm. And she said, Happy New Year, Miss Carrie said, addressing the crowd.

Just want to take a sip of tea if they'll let me. They told me there would be tea. Oh, it's a disaster. well, we'll just have to rough it. I'm going to be like everybody else with no hot tea, but we're trying to do this one for you. She is just like everybody else. She is just like everybody else.

And the only other flub that I had found was that in 2017, Britney Spears was ripped up hard online for lip syncing, even though they knew that people had started to not lip sync as much anymore. But she also was singing toxic with gum visibly in her mouth the end of time. I kind of love that. To really bring it home of like,

I am not singing this song. Yeah, yeah. That is so funny. I think Brittany needs that sometimes because there's so much pressure on her. She has a lot of pressure. Sure. She has a lot of fucking pressure.

I know. I really do. I've said this before, but I stay away from her on blind items because I feel for her. I love Britney's beers. She's been battered to the end of the years. And if you follow her on social media,

it really is like you see that she had never gone past being 15 years old. No, she wasn't allowed to. She was fucking abused by all the adults around. We'll do a pop history. Oh. We'll paint her in a good life. Yeah, that will be a great pop history. Oh, yeah.

Do you have any other moments before we wrap this up? No, I don't. That's what I said. Like, they kept a pretty tight ship. Yeah. And I think it makes sense, just like with the Thanksgiving Day parade, keep them lip-sinking. We know the songs.

Yeah, who fucking cares. Unless they're doing the live performances or the other performances, which you know how now they cut back and forth to other shows that are going on in other places. And those people are actually performing. but also they were pre-recorded. Well, you're not watching those shows to, like, scrutinize what you're not supposed to be. I guess people just love to rip people apart. But you're watching it just to hear the songs that you know and like in the background when you're dancing around in a party.

Yeah, you're talking about over it the whole time. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's the whole point. So this year's special will include performances from Alanis Morissette. I love that she's having this big return. I want to see the Jagged Little Pill musical. She's on tour. And she's on tour right now, too.

Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah. know with garbage endless fare. I got to go. We gotta go. Post Malone, Paula Abdul, Green Day, Duolipa, Megan V. Stallion, I love the Jazz. Salt and Peppa.

Cheryl Crow. Usher. The Jonas Brothers. And then a ton of acts I've never heard of before because I'm in old. And but also because they've got their ear to the ground, which is what now that I know that this is what New Year's Rock and Eve, or Rock and New Year's Eve?

Rock and New Year's Eve? I've been saying it wrong. New Year's Rocken Eve. New Year's Rocken Eve. Now that I know that this is what they are attempting to do, and I never realized that, that it was just like, it's like, what are we all listening to this year? I thought it was just whoever they could get. And now it makes so much more sense.

So now I'm actually going to pay attention to it this year. Yeah, why not? And performances will happen from Hollywood, Miami, New Orleans, and Times Square. And I mentioned already the Powerball thing. Powerball's involved, and they're doing a promotion to claim the first millionaire of 2020. So buy those tickets, y'all.

You got to do it. Or don't. And also, speaking of buying tickets, this is our last reminder before this new year that we will be on tour hopefully in your town. Yes. The pop history crew, me, Holden, and Natalie, will be in Pontiac, in Milwaukee, in Chicago.

Yes, the 9th, 10th, the 11th, and Chicago Pontiac in Milwaukee in that order. Please join us. We hope you will be there. Check out tickets. You can find tickets at Last Podcast Network forward slash P7 live. We love you guys so much. I hope you guys had a great New Year's Eve.

Welcome to 2020 because that vision is perfect, baby. Don't worry, I'm going to keep making those jokes. And it's not funny. No one cares about 2020 vision jokes. And I'll never stop. What about the show 2020? Sure. We'll make jokes.

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