Page 7 - Riverdale Roundup Ch. 83: Veronica Bucks

Episode Date: March 12, 2021

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We got ourselves an episode. Welcome to Riverdale Roundup. What happened? What happened? We both watched this last night. And still, I had to re-look it up. I'm like, what did happen? Oh, a hundred million things?

Yes. A economics, baby. A real life lesson in inflation. Thank you, Riverdale. How do you feel about, let's start it off. How do you feel about the Veronica books that are now being printed by Veronica Lodge to save the economy of Riverdale? I honestly have way too many feelings about this, and I feel like it's going to be like on this week's page 7 where I was starting to write a PhD dissertation. I love it.

Oh, it's tough. So on the one hand, it's very mixed emotions because on the one hand, I love highlighting how artificial currency is. and I love the idea of just being like, make your own economy. Riverdale's cut off from everything else. Make your own currency. I think that is absolutely fantastic. But I also really loved when I think it was Jughead got paid in the Veronica

bucks. And he was like, what the fuck is this? This is my labor and you're paying me and money I can't spend anywhere or it's a peer. So I'm, and also, you know, I have to just be very skeptical of Veronica. And so I like a lot. of the new Riverdale currency, Veronica Bucks. I like a lot of it in principle. I'm not sure if I like a lot of it in practice,

especially because it's a bunch of high schoolers in charge of the economy, which I also like from a learning perspective. The educator and me really liked that. Sure. But it all does seem a little volatile, especially in the hands of a town that is still being run by Hiram Lodge,

even though it's not a town. It's a town, not a town. All of the things in Riverdale are not, what they seem. And now Riverdale is trying to be run with $50,000 of Veronica's own money, which of course she got by selling one of her glamourgeet eggs, because we all know, you take a glamourgeet egg into a pawn shop. I couldn't think of the word.

I wanted to see Thrive's store. You take it into a pawn shop. They look at it and go, of course that has resale value. In Riverdale, the town not town, everyone is Jones in their jughead gens, and to get in there and buy a glamour, J. Egg. And of course, he had $50,000 on hand. So Veronica decided to print her own money with her own cartoon likeness on it. And I guess go for ha. So she gives these bucks to her students, because remember, she's an ex-examination.

economics teacher now, and she does it to save Riverdale as well as boost, pops, and Le Bonnui, not Le Bonneux. So that's another thing that is perhaps bad about the new currency is that it can literally, I guess she doesn't own it anymore, but it still seems like there's a conflict of interest to create a currency that can only be spent at a place that you used to own. like that seems like a little that seems wrong but I guess she doesn't own it anymore so maybe that's fine

and yeah so she's backing it's so funny because this I make my brother explain how the actual economy works to me all the time and I have just a tenuous grasp on it so I guess she's like the Federal Reserve because she has the real money

and she is basically guaranteeing the value of the fake money that she has then created but her idea is then Well, right. It can only, she's going to pay her students for their work. Again, it all seems kind of ethically dubious. I think that that is bad, right?

Because she's like, take the money and you'll, oh, get A's. Like the school is now being run by 25-year-olds that don't have degrees in what they are teaching. However, I think that it is all a bit much. But go for it. I think that it is. You know, it's not even remote. the least official thing happening in this episode. I think that it's actually, in terms of like safety in the town,

I think that Archie's volunteer fire department that also is a pop-up in this episode, a lot of big dreams in this episode, big ambitions. I think that is perhaps even more unsafe than creating an alternate economy. Molly, is someone that is in grad school to work for schools. How do you think a high school would probably be? enjoy it if the children, I'm going to say children, they're teenagers, but minors, the minors that are in the RROTC, as well as being coerced into playing on a football team, as well as now being the volunteer firefighters of a town. Mind you, the only firefighters in Riverdale are all minors that are going to. to be taught by the guy that knows it all,

which is some fuckhead from New York that happens to be in the NYFD that comes in to teach the minors, although there's nothing to train them with. They don't have the hoses. They don't have all of the things because Archie is running the fire department out of the boxing gym that he owns. That's got to. be illegal, right?

Making the children be the volunteer fire department. The children ages 16 to 18. He says, you have to be at least 16 and you have to have a parental permission. So at least he's covering his bases. I like it when Riverdale gives like a nod towards the

idea that high schoolers aren't adults and they're like, okay, before you can become a unpaid volunteer firefighter in the town with no fire department, which is like a really dangerous job, so dangerous that all of your adult friends said that they didn't want to do it.

Don't want to do it. And also, Molly, remember, this is the same universe where three episodes ago, a minor owned a bar, a minor owned a gentleman's club. So, you know, this is the same. I guess they've got different rules for minors. And every time I say minor, I do think about old man, Dreyfus, but we're not talking about the moth men yet. because he was a minor of a different flavor.

No, we're still talking about these sexy, not sexy, because they're children, firemen, that are going to be running Riverdale. They're not children, they're teenagers. But they're also not teenage. So they're going to do a sexy calendar, and should you be uncomfortable about that, sexy fire fighter calendar featuring minors? 17-year-olds?

In the Riverdale universe, yes. In our universe, no, because none of those people, are actually minors, I assume, because it's Riverdale and most. They're probably all the same age as Archie, you know, so it's fine. But it's okay because don't worry, they're not doing anything to develop any of the high school characters. It's as if we just don't give a fuck. It's just not a show about high school anymore, even though it's set in a high school. And that's fine. I don't need to know anything about those people. But they're just kind of, they're just kind of like faceless blobs now.

Yes. I honestly don't look at them that much. And I assume that they are the same actors from the previous episodes, but if they were completely other actors, I would have absolutely no idea. I do not look at them in the face. I just absorb what is happening in the episode. So how is Archie paying for the fireman? Of course, it is Veronica Lodge. Veronica Lodge comes in because he wants to start this fire department because Hiram keeps trying to burn the city down literally. He keeps every episode, what is this? The seventh fire in the past two episodes.

Because he tried to, remember last episode? He tried to burn down Archie's house. And now he tried to burn down, oh God, how funny. I'm sorry. The funny is not the right word, but when the homeless man comes into the boxing ring, asking what all of these young men were doing in there because they are starting a fire department. And he's just, he comes in, he says,

whatever, whatever of quote unquote trying to move the plot along, even though what he said was absolute garbage, like nothing happened in that whole scene. It was like, why is this man still talking? But now we know, it was set up because he lives in the building next door that Hiram sets on. Fire. So it'll be the first, the first effort of the Riverdale Minor League Firefighter team to go in.

And the number one thing that they were being taught is you don't do anything alone, that you always go in with a partner. You never try to be a hero. And what does Archie do? Fucking guy. He runs into the building without a hose without anything to put out the fire because he knows that there is a homeless man inside, which, okay, preach, Archie. But is that the leadership we need in a firefighter team? No, you don't just run it.

That's the whole thing. You work together. That's the fucking point. I was so mad that that immediately happened. And I was like, no one's going to call him out? No one's going to call him out that he just ran into the fucking building. This is the problem with Archie. He ruins everything by making it all about himself.

I'm sorry, that's harsh. but he needs to fucking stop. He's like, he's just, it's, don't pretend this is about stopping Hiram from setting the town on fire, Archie. This is your own personal vanity project. Yes, the entire town. And you know what? He's going to wear himself out too thin. And I don't think it's going to be wearing himself out by having sex with Betty, which we saw none of this episode.

I want more sex. You set me up for a buffet of sex and you give me nothing. Not only was there not enough sex with Betty in this episode. there was, I can't tell yet if this is good or bad, but there was a setup that he's going to absolutely want to bang Ronnie again. Because in the end, when she drives that old fire truck in, he's like, thanks Ronnie. And he was obviously the boner.

So there's going to be triangle, not triangle, is back to being triangle. I am completely fine with that because we heard nothing from Ronnie's husband that lives in New York this episode, but we know that he's going to come a call in because she's going against Daddy and using his money to run a town that doesn't exist. Not only that, am I allowed to say something that I saw in the next week on Riverdale?

Please. Because I watched it on actual TV and I saw it like when it was actually airing and I finally... Yeah, I never get to see those. Tell me, tell me, tell me. Yeah, so there was a scene in the next week on Riverdale where Chad, Chadwick, Chadwick was there with Veronica and they were at a party.

and I think that all the Archie says, it's Archie confronting Chad and he goes, hey, keep your hands off her. And Chad says, excuse me. So I knew, I told you that Archie was going to kick Chad's ass. But the question is, is he going to kick Chad's ass and then fuck Veronica? Oh, and he's going to be upset about it. But she's too busy looking for her possibly dead sister.

Remember last episode? They found a body. Don't worry. It's one of the 22 missing women that have gone missing from Riverdale and around Riverdale for the past seven years. It's amazing that a small town like Riverdale can not only just have hundreds of abandoned children living in the woods at all times, but also 20-some missing girls. In a span of seven years that are all from a small town. Small town. And no one has accounted for them. And I get that this like does happen.

Like, however, usually we're talking about a bigger city, bigger stretch of time, that serial killers can target like sex workers and whatnot and have all of these people, people, a lot of people disappear without anyone taking notice. You're talking about the town of Riverdale that has, as far as I can tell, 25 people in it. And now we're talking about 22 missing girls in seven years. And so they, of course, so they go see still and forever the creepiest character from. the Riverdale universe. Dr. Colonel Jr. Mr. Curtle Jr. who was just, man, I

love, I need to look up this actor. The actor kills it. Yeah, he's great. What a horror show of a fucking morgue runner. Yes, I said morgue runner. I couldn't think of the word. And he, so he, of course, they pay him off. They find

out that it's not the girl. See, this is where, with all of these women gone missing, we see it, Unfortunately, time and time again, that when people, when young girls and sometimes linked, and oftentimes linked to sex work that go missing, but a lot of times they don't have family to go after to like follow up with police and things like that. And unfortunately, that's the kind of people that people prey on. But in this instance, there is a woman whose daughter went missing.

She had a sick-ass jacket on. I must say it had fur, it had cow print. It was a jean jacket, but also had a zipper on it. It was a great jacket. And we had to pause it so Jeff and I could talk about the jacket for about five minutes. Now, I just really feel, so the body that they found is not her daughter, but her daughter is still missing. And I just imagine that usually in these kind of universes, you don't go after someone as family. because my mom would have been sitting in a police department every day for the rest of her life, if I ever went missing.

Like, there's no way that she would ever let it go. She would dog it down until she was dead. But all this woman did was go talk to the guidance counselor at the high school, which, of course, is T.T. T.T. doesn't know anything about any of this shit. Why are you talking to Titi about it? You can start a T-T, but you've got a lot more steps to go to go try and find your missing daughter. Well, don't worry. There's only one cop in town at Sheriff Keller.

And she did say, you know, Sheriff Keller, he tried, but he's just one man. And it's like, did, right, you had so you, and then you talked to Tony, who's, I get, and they said she was a social worker. So she's both a social worker and a guidance counselor. That can make sense. I guess maybe she worked for like a Riverdale, like, did she work for? for like a community-based nonprofit before? Or was she still the guidance counselor? Just moonlighting is like a victim support social worker also.

There's just like so, they get so close to things that are real. And then they just, I, it's like a 10-year-old writing a story. It's really great that it's just like anything can happen. But you're right. I didn't really catch because she was a very sympathetic mother character, but she did not try very hard. You're right. No, no, but she really didn't because,

now, of course, they're going to start finding all these bodies out in the swamp that's right outside of Riverdale. Which, again, where is Riverdale that there's all of these things plus just a swamp? Yeah, just a big... Out in the middle. A big swamp that, interestingly enough, in all of the different murders that have happened in Riverdale, the swamp has never played any sort of plot line before. It certainly has not. Now there's this swamp in Hiram and...

and Reggie are protecting the swamp because it's going to be their highway to Sodale. And so Hiram won't let the real police officer, Sheriff Keller, along with intrepid journalist Alice Cooper and Intrepid FBI, not FBI, Betty, search the swamp. Although Betty did take out her fake badge again and say, this is FBI jurisdiction now. And Hiram saw her bluff and was like, yeah, right, no, it's not. And so, but then, Reggie, why is Reggie being a double agent? Because Reggie was like, Hiram, maybe you should let him search. Why? Why? I don't know, double agent because Reggie also said, because he was like, hey, Betty, well, this isn't that other missing girl, but I did find another body.

So he gave her another body. We can't tell Hiram Lodge about it. But of course, Alice Cooper writes about it in the paper. So Hiram Lodge finds out, is there a. another serial killer in Riverdale. Is it the trash bag killer? Because now we know the trash bag killer. Because remember, Betty's FBI boyfriend called her and said the trash bag killer is back.

Fake ass John Krasinski FBI boyfriend. Who is that actor? Is he somebody? Every time I see him, I'm like, who are you? You look like fake John Krasinski. He's another one that I've never really truly looked at that if he was a different person every time, I would have absolutely no idea. I am really starting to do that with shows.

I'm like, I see, I don't know, you are just person A. If I don't need to know you and your existence, because so much happens in Riverdale that you're trying to piece it all together, that I ain't got fucking time for that, boy. It's like a cognition test. Your brain has to like make quick decisions about what information is important to retain and what is it. And what to keep. Yes.

So, right. So, okay, yeah. So I actually hadn't, I said, I can't strategize about, or hypothesize about what comes next or what might be happening during Riverdale because my brain is struggling so hard to just comprehend what's in front of me. But what you said makes me think

is, are we probably, this is, also another thing that happens with me when I watch anything that's like a mystery is I will make an observation. Like I just had a really good idea and Gideon will be like, yeah, it's obviously that. Like I'm like always like 20 steps behind. So is it going to be that the trash bag killer

has been the serial killer in Riverdale the whole time. Probably obvious. I guess, but at the same time, we've already had multiple serial killers. So, which, oh, praise be, Riverdale. The fact that I have, I think that we've been screaming about when are the aliens going to come to Riverdale

for a couple of years at this point? Answer to our question, it is not. The mothmen are here. The moth men are here. And also, forgive me if I am mistaken, but didn't you last time say that you thought that Nana Blossom had something to do with the moth men? Me? Did I say that? Didn't you say that or did I say that?

I don't know. Neither one of us say it, and I just said it aloud to myself. That would have been cogent of me. It sounds uncharacteristically predictive of me. I just like, you know what? I'm giving it to you. I'm giving it to you regardless because, or maybe it was someone that wrote in. Oh, it might have been someone that wrote in.

Oh, now I feel like a bitch. I'll take it from them. I think it was someone that wrote it. Because I've been reading all of y'all's theories and it was someone that wrote in. And also, mausel to this person that wrote in because Nana Rose was there. When Pop Tate saw the fire in the sky. It is the name of the episode when the moth men came before. Because remember the miners, not the fire department.

I'm talking about the actual miners now. Because, yes, in a town where you have a swamp, sure you can have a bunch of mines as well. I don't think that that's how the foundation of the Earth's surface works. However, there is a miner, and the miner, remember last time, all the miners, were taken by the moth men, but old man Dreyfus didn't get taken by the moth men forever. All of his friends did, though. Yes. So back then, there was another time when the mothman came and Pop Tate was there for it.

So they interview Pop Tate to find out what happened that night. And so they saw the bright sky. It was the moth men. And all of the electricity started acting up, except that so did the bubble. gum machine, which requires no electricity. And so did a monkey with symbols that were on the counter, which also was not run by electricity. Maybe it has something to do with the batteries.

They were all, and also, the moth men prefer listening to chances. I don't know what happened the first time they came. But they came again, Molly. they've come again. The first time they came was the time that Pop tells us about, right? And then the second time they came is at the very end with Juggy. With Juggy Jugs, because he wants to know about the Mothmen. But why did the Moth Men come again?

Because Nanna Rose preserved one of their bodies in syrup. Because Nanna Rose has a Mothman corpse. in a barrel of maple syrup. I laughed so hard. It was like a fucking course she does. I love Nana Rose, man. Don't sleep on Nana Rose. She is a fantastic character.

She is the clinch hitter of this season. I think that something else, more has to be coming out because with Nana Rose. Because he also thinks seven years, bitch ain't aged. I don't know how. but she looks exactly the same as she did seven years ago, and so does Pop Tate.

Whatever is in the water in Riverdale is, oh, can I have some? Can we hawk it at Sephora? So the mothmen came back. We don't see them, but they did take the corpse back. Because Jughead, so Nana Rose speaks to Jughead and his new investigative flash fuck partner Tabitha, and she's like, oh. Not yet, but I can't. wait to watch it soon yeah and she's like oh i kept one and i preserved it in maple syrup you want it

and they're like yeah sure and so she drops it off somehow i don't know how that the logistics of that dropping off this barrel of maple syrup but she drops it off at pops they take it to the back room unsanitary and then they put the corpse out on a on a kind of mortuary table that they have for some reason in their back room i guess it could also be like a chef's prep table and they just leave it there unattended. I mean, I guess he was there working, but like, you know, I think that this is a lapse of responsibility on drugheads part. You have a very important artifact, which is a literal alien body, and you're just going to be like, I'll just leave this on the prep counter while I drink whiskey, like a sad boy. You don't, you don't unearth an alien corpse at the top of a shift.

You do it at the end of your shift. We don't have time for. We don't have time. that shit, we've got people to serve coffee to. And if that is anything that as someone that was a manager of a coffee shop for a long time, that's one thing that I know. You don't unearth a corpse at the top. Wait till later.

But they're the only two people that work there. So I guess they can't be investigative journalists together because they're always working and getting paid in River dollars. Which has got to be very upsetting. I can't believe

that Nana Rose had an alien corpse. And I love that she's like, ah, I gotta go find that. So what she meant is that she wheeled her ass out to one of the many sheds filled with maple syrup barrels to go find it. Alone?

I don't think so. I don't fucking think so, Molly. I don't think that she's alone in doing this. Do you think it's a setup? What kind of setup? I don't even understand what the... Don't know. You think she's trying to trick him?

I do. I guess we shouldn't trust her. There's no reason to trust her. I don't trust her. Yeah. I certainly don't trust her. But at the same time, Jughead was definitely taken up into the mothmanship. What?

Okay. So, right. Was he? So the light comes down. The light comes down. And then that's the end? No, it cuts to, remember he, like the, uh, his. And he tells her about it.

His Sunday fuck buddy came in and was like, no. And then I woke up and it was 6 a.m. So he was gone for hours and knows not of what happened. Okay. Right. So he's not abducted, but he was maybe gone. He was gone. Okay.

He was gone. And something, I'm sure, happened to him up there. Yes, that's right. Do you think it's going to be like an astronaut's wife? Do you think that they implanted a mothman inside of him and something is going to be birthed from him? Now I'm remembering that as we were watching this, Gideon was like, there's something in his butt.

It's in his butt. Yeah. So that, right. So the light came, he saw it. And then when he tries to tell Tabith about it, right? She's like, were you drinking? And he was like, I mean, yeah. And then that's when they discover that the corpse is gone, right?

Yes. Yes. And that is. I mean, what do you think happened to him up there? I don't know. But in all of this talking about Nana Rose, has me really thinking about the importance of us not losing track of the Cheryl T.T. plotline and especially the danceoff between Cheryl and T.T.

And high schooler number A, who knows what this child is? Random high schooler who, Cheryl insults. Cheryl's like, you look insufferable. Love to be a 25-year-old and just fucking just dream out of high schooler who literally did. You're allowed to do that because how did Titi get Cheryl down from her castle? She, remember last time, reopened up the vixen hole. So, of course, Cheryl comes down in her most Cheryl way and said, like Elton John likes to say, the bitch is back in town.

and then try to like dance off with Titi of who will run the vixens but Titi's like I'm pregnant so a minor comes in and dances

sexually towards Cheryl while Cheryl is sexually dancing back towards her how did you feel about the dancing? See I always worry that it's going to be like a save the last dance kind of thing where I'm watching it I was like, I think that that's a really good dancing, but I don't know anything about dancing.

So I never know if it is another save the last dance situation. I also don't know anything about dancing. And I love all choreographed dance scenes in everything ever. And so I was very excited. And I also just have, I just, I really liked how T.T was like, yeah, I obviously can't dance because I'm pregnant. And since she's really pregnant, I just thought that was like a fun thing where she's like, nope, somebody else has to do it for me. Not doing it. But I liked it because I.

I like the dance scenes. The Cheryl Vickson choreographed dance scenes have always been one of my favorite parts of Riverdale. So I enjoyed it. But I don't know if it was very impressive. It felt like TikTok dancing to me, you know? Right. And I also don't know.

I don't know. I just don't know. Yeah. So then that's so they dance dance. They decide to share it. But of course, then they're just budding heads because they don't really want to share it because Cheryl wants to be the head of it. And of course, this leads to them just, again, hanging out in the common room area where they used to hang out in the high school as teenagers.

But now they are faculty. And I would be very weirded out if the faculty was just like sexy dancing and chillaxon where I usually went to study. But I guess that's outside of anyone's worries right now. also I did want to bring up the amount of time that Kevin the word backdraft was said multiple times in this episode because Kevin remember that when he's like he's like watched back draft a multiple times like we get it he's gay we get it yeah we get it Riverdale yeah yeah but what about the backdraft and something we also haven't talked about

which we accidentally skipped over or maybe on purpose is Archie's wartime buddy that showed up that calls him Sarge and now he's an entity of chaos that is now added into I feel like in my head

they're doing with him what they wanted to do with Uncle Daddy the mercenary a couple of episodes ago that this guy shows up he's got nowhere to go he's gonna go

like to some that halfway house but he has nowhere to stay right now so he shows up at Archie's house with a rifle and a tiny duffel bag. Yep. I, that was fun for Jeff where all of his family are military men.

He's like, man, there's nothing. Military dudes are always calling civilians, civilians, and always constantly talking about. And also, they definitely are not allowed to something I learned, which I didn't really know, that you can't take the guns with you when you leave the army. That's not how it works. And you certainly can't just have it slung over your shoulder

when you're walking through a town that you don't know. But what ends up happening, this is, he is chaotic because he doesn't like what's going down in Riverdale. He doesn't trust Hiram Lodge. Yeah, fucking get in line. Yeah, right. You're right. It's total uncle daddy too.

Yes, where it's like, okay, okay. So he's like, going to go kill him. Hiram Lodge, bitch, you don't fucking work that way. We have tried to kill him many times. What do you think we do here in Riverdale? Yep, he's an outsider to the ecosystem. Yeah, I didn't trust him, and I couldn't tell if I was bored by him. I think I'm bored by him.

I know we're not supposed to trust him. I think I'm bored by him. Yeah, I'm just like, okay, you're like, are you just a foil to, like, set up Archie more as like this war hero? Or are you Uncle Daddy, too, which was a connection I hadn't made, but that's totally what he is. It's just like, oh, Archie thinks he's got a friend who he can rely on, but he can't trust anybody. He can't trust anybody.

And we all remember the bearer. He can't trust anybody. And I don't like this man. He's a hothead. And he doesn't have a leg. And he definitely uses that, which we didn't need another, like, it's like, sergey's what I would have been left out in the field if sarged. And it's like, okay, Lieutenant Dan. We don't, like,

We know this. It's a bit heavy-handed. It's a war hero. It's a bit heavy-handed, yeah. And I, this is like... Remember when we were over there? I love that they're always saying over there and not referring to where they were or what skirmish they were involved in or what went

down, but over there. And he goes, I thought a war that didn't change anything. And I'm like, this could be like actually profound, like a profound observation if we had any idea what war you're talking about. Like this just nameless, faceless war, countryless war. I like it. What even is this war? But it is a pacifist sentiment, I suppose.

I guess I was just like, Riverdale, you are so confusing sometimes. Like, and I, it's one of these things where sometimes they invest time in a plotline. And I'm like, is this time well spent? Is this going to turn into something? Or is this not going to turn it? Like, I just have no, like, I don't know what's going to happen with Jug. head in the aliens. I really have absolutely zero predictions, but I'm so excited to find out. I don't know what's going to happen with this guy, and I don't care.

I like it. I like your fervor against him because I also didn't know. I was like, I think I hate this character, but I don't, because you never know. You also could just be gone next episode. We never know with Riverdale, which is part of its beauty. I don't know if it actually means anything. Will it be tied to like brother, not brother from three episodes ago? who knows, like, because we do know that you got to remember. We have Charles, we got Chick, we've got Penelope Blossom in J. And the Black Hood. They're all, it's Black Hood finally dead.

Blackhood's dead, for real, right? Yeah, he lost his hand and he wasn't dead, but then I think he got really dead. And then he actually got, and then he did get dead. And then, so you have to remember, they're all cooking in prison somewhere. And I feel like they're all going to be working together. I think that there's got to be some sort of spider web over all of this to make it all make sense, but also in turn not make sense. And I do need to bring up that the AV Club included in their article a little picture of, remember. Oh, I forgot that Cheryl got caught for forgery as well.

Only took one episode for her to get caught. That was nice. I appreciated that. There was a lot in this episode. But before she got caught, there was this picture that she must have painted that is her as a fox, but like her body and her hair, but the face of a fox. And someone asks the question, is this a self-portrait of Cheryl's persona? And I don't know what, I really hope something with this. Just look up Cheryl Blossom and Fox painting from Riverdale.

I bet you can find it. Very, very weird. I really don't know what's going to happen with the art forgery either. Yeah, the art forgery is another plot line. I don't care about it. I don't not care about it the way I don't care about that army guy. But I also don't understand it. I just have no predictions, absolutely zero predictions about what might happen with the art

forgery. I don't know why they're doing it. I don't know what purpose it's serving. I don't know what character development it's doing for Cheryl other than to have her be like this recluse. I liked the Elsa frozen reference that Veronica made. Elsa finally came down from the mountain. So I know she's like her reckless or whatever, but I still don't understand why Nana Rose is making her do these forgeries. I still don't understand why it was a painting of her dead brother. There's so much I don't understand about this plot line. This might be the plot line I understand the least. Yes, I would say that I do agree with that. I don't know where they're going to go with it, but maybe it's a way for them to make some fast money, or maybe it's

going to send Cheryl to prison, and then she's going to start cooking up schemes with her mother in prison. Who knows? That would be fun. I would like a... Or is that woman going to employ her to start making more forgeries, and then she in turn is going to be rounded up in some sort of bigger art forgery scam later. It's totally going to be that because she was like, ooh, I have a mating to take with you. She wasn't like, it was obviously like you're in trouble, but it's Riverdale, so it's not going to be like,

you're in trouble because you did something wrong. It's going to be like, you're in trouble because you did something wrong, and I like it. And I like it. You're going to make me money from it. But I think that that's all we have to scream about Riverdale. That's it. All 30 of the plot lines we just talked about, that's it.

But we know what Riverdale does. They have these episodes where they set up all the dominoes, and some of the dominoes might fall next week on the next episode. Who knows which ones, though. Yeah. I'm glad that they didn't change that at all in this new time jump. It's still just throwing shit to the wall and see what sticks. See what sticks, baby. You know I'm here for it.

I love it. I love the moth men. I don't know where it's going to go. I love it. I hope that maybe Jughead is going to start, or maybe he's going to go try and find it, so he's going to try and get the moth men to come back so that he can do further investigation.

But I just, I wish him all the best, and I'm really excited. And if there is not more fucking next week, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know what I'm going to do. There better be. You hear me, Riverdale riders, there better be. They'll be.

Listen, make us see both fucks with Ronnie and Betty. Make it happen. Oh, yeah. And then everyone's going to be upset with each other. And I can't wait to watch Jughead banging that hottie. We got hotties in our future. And also, please, more Kevin and Bangs. I want to watch them kiss more.

Yes, please. Yeah. Yes, please. Yeah, more. New characters, fine. At least develop the new. characters. They haven't really done much to develop Tabitha's personality whatsoever. Same with Army Boy. I couldn't even remember her name. So give us more of the existing sexy characters kissing.

Yes, please. But also keep up the great work, Riverdale Riders, because again, we know you're listening to this. And we love you guys so much. I'm excited for next week to see whatever dominoes may fall. I hope that you enjoyed this week's episode, Fire in the Sky! And we will be back soon to discuss whatever the fuck goes down. And I'm excited about it. Any parting words, Molly? My parting words are that even if you think that you shouldn't go it alone and you've been trained not to go it alone. And in fact, going it alone might hurt many other people like running into a burning building. You know, I think you should just do it.

Just follow your own selfish heart and do exactly what everyone is begging you not to. that is the Archie Andrew's way. It is the Archie Andrews way. We'll see you guys next week for Chapter 84, Lock and Key. And when I just looked that up, I did see a just a big old picture of Archie with a fireman's helmet on no shirt and Fireman suspenders. And you know what? He's not usually my bag, but y'all know how I feel about Fireman.

We're going to get a montage. We're going to get a montage of that calendar shoot and that's going to be fun. Damn, fucking straight we are And we will cover our eyes When they are showing the montage of the 17-year-olds That will be in the calendar And that's all right So we'll see you guys next week

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