Page 7 - Riverdale Roundup Ch. 86: Sacrifice the Interloper

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

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What are we going to do on this mid-season break? Plots? That this, what about the palladium mining? The palladium. Oh, my, I'm so excited about this episode. I was, I had to watch it by myself, because my fully vaccinated husband went and saw friends for the first time in over a year. That's wonderful.

Super awesome, but I was like. But also, this is a. rough one to watch by yourself. It was. Because it was a lot. It was a lot, but it was also so funny that I was just sitting there alone in my house with this like, you know, shit-eating grin on my face, like laughing at the palladium. I mean, it was just, I even had a moment, I should have written it down exactly when it happened. I had a moment where I was like, Archie's kind of cute in this episode. What's wrong with me? Oh, no. I've never, ever thought that. I Again, I think KJ Appa is hot, but it goes away when he's Archie.

But there was something about in one of the conversations he was having with Veronica, I think. I was like, I was all over the place with this episode. Was it the war crimes? Is that what did it for you? Maybe it was what the New York Times called him. And she was like, I'm an investigative reporter with the New York Times. I'm here to ask you about your tour. And he goes, yeah, what about it?

Like, just like, yeah, I'll talk to you, whatever, New York Times. Yeah, goodbye. We on the record? All right, let's go. just like absolutely no obsec whatsoever in terms of loyalty to the U.S. military. He's just like, sure, I'll talk to the New York Times. It's just all over the place this episode. I don't, you know what?

I hate to agree with you about this. I think for me, it was that dark olive green shirt. The olive green shirt really worked on him with his ridiculous, every shade of red hair. And I think that that is, he was looking good. And also the fight scenes in, of course, after the prison break, when all of the prisoners were paid by Hiram Lodge to go and try and burn the high school down. During the prison insurrection, Archie was doing a great job of beating up all of those huge convicts

that were just going to come in and probably pillage the parents and the teachers a parent teacher night. I had such a roller coaster of emotions around the prison break because at first I was like yeah, prison break, yeah. And then I was like,

I know it's just Riverdale, but I don't love like the portrayal of like prisoners as like wild animals who just like go and descend upon the city to do crimes. But then it turned out they had been paid to do that chaos by Hiram Lodge and so then I think I came back around

to liking the prison break again. Yeah. That's a lot. That's quite a journey for one 42-minute episode of Riverdale. But it really was because last episode, if you remember, I thought that he was going to blow up Riverdale High School. But no. You were close.

It was close. No, he had, so Hiram Lodge had set up some sort of bomb that he had a cartoonish timer countdown in inside of Riverdale Prison because he number one paid off the prisoners to go and try and essentially burn down the town of Riverdale. Number two. So this is, this is the, we had quite a conversation about this. Did Hiram Lodge, you remember back in the day, further than seven years ago, he bought Southside High.

to demolish Southside High to put up a prison. Fine. He was making a bunch of money off the prison. Fine. Did he know then that there was a palladium mine underneath the prison? And that's why he built a prison on top of it? Or did he find it afterwards? And if he found it afterwards, how?

You know, Jackie, you know that it is a losing game. to ever try to make retroactive sense to make to connect okay have we ever heard of palladium before this episode no because I straight up thought I am a I'm not the smartest person and I know palladiums as a brand of shoe and I was like the shoe oh they're making shoes in the prison and that is what I said because I was very stoned also not very smart but palladium is a chemical element that apparently is worth more money than gold. It's like vibratium kind of, but for money. It's like a supernatural, it only exists under the prison of Riverdale.

You're right, because he built that prison. It's, oh, it doesn't make any sense. So now he has to destroy, right, he has to destroy like everything he's built because he needs to mine the palladium, which again, we have never heard. Leave it to Riverdale to throw in something not only that you've never heard of in five seasons, but on the season finale, oh, there is multiple plot points being driven by a thing you've never heard of until today. And that we are just left at a standstill because the palladium hath run dry under the prison. And so what's Hiram going to do?

What is he going to go try and find his other child that lives in Miami that's running the rum business? No, he's got to find more palladium now. Because how else is he supposed to put up? So, Dale, where is the palladium flowing? I don't know how he knows this. In my brain, I see palladium like the pink stuff underneath the city and Ghostbusters 2. That I imagine he followed the flow. And where is the flow of palladium?

underneath the maple trees on Cheryl's property. Yes. Again, all of this, all of this coming out of 100% nowhere. None of this was led up to. In fact, we were going on a lot of different journeys. Art Forgery. What happened to Art Forgery? That was not even remotely connected to anything, apparently.

I don't know. They might have to sacrifice the interloper, MJ. When they said, do we have to sacrifice the interloper, I laughed for four minutes straight. That was so funny. I was like, are they really about to kill this fucking bitch? And I'm surprised they didn't. But notice she wasn't around. All right, I have to immediately jump into the theories.

Okay. Because y'all are killing it. And I have to just real quick say that I think that I remembered the moment that I thought that Archie was hot, which is maybe the moment that the general who is engaged in some sort of huge military cover-up. War crimes. War crimes. He was walking around trawling the high school, which was admittedly being invaded by prisoners with a gun.

And Archie just goes up to him and goes, man, this is a high school. What do you do it? And I just love that line. Like, you can't do that around here. This is a high school. This is a high school. What are you doing? I think that that should be the tagline of Riverdale.

Not anymore because it's not so much. much in the high school, but I guess it still is because they run the high school. This is, this theory comes in from Corey. Thank you so much, Corey. So the actress who plays Minerva, who played a witch on Sabrina, we were talking about this last time. Yes. What if that she was a witch and if she's actually a witch and does, is there an undercircle

of witches in Riverdale? Thank you. Yes. But what Corey brought up, in the most recent episode of the show, the Blossom women pray for a storm. I'm getting like 20 miles ahead of myself. All right, long story short.

Hiram Lodge wants the maple tree land. So what does he do? He sends Reggie to go in and sweet talk Nana Rose. I thought Reggie was gonna fuck Nana Rose. He showed up in a suit

with flowers and she was like, oh. This was my favorite. When I texted Jackie that I loved the episode, She texted back, did you also think Reggie was going to fuck Dan Roos? And they didn't show it. And in my brain, he did.

Because Reggie is dedicated. Not really because he's a flip-flopper. But Reggie is dedicated enough to do what he needs to get done. Well, and he had to earn back the trust from Hiram because he had flip-flopped over to the high school audience. Because he went to the football team game. Yes. So, you know, Hyram needed to get him to come crawling back. sent him to charm Nana Rose, yes.

So that he could have control over the maple groves so he could mine the palladium. But Reggie got Nana Rose. We don't know how. Wink, wink, wink, wink, to sign away all of the Maple Groves to Hiram Lodge. What happened? Sherrill got pissed the fuck off because Cheryl was like, that is my ancestry. You can't give that away. And apparently years ago, which I will say smart on her.

her part, but scary in real world, she has already gotten Nana Rose be fit with a, not insanity. What is it called? Like mental incapacitated, senile clause that she can't sign any contract. She had her declared senile years ago. That scene did make me laugh a lot. Because I just love it when Cheryl's just in control of a situation, you know, that's like Cheryl Blossom at her peak. I love Cheryl.

You know what? even this weird version of Cheryl, I absolutely love. So they rip up the contract. He's like, you're going to have to try better than that. So what does Reggie do? He burns down the maple trees because he's like, yeah, what's she going to do now? Because she can't get the maple out of the trees. So now she's going to give us the land.

You idiot, never heard of insurance before. Wait, no, you're just going to give her more money. She's just going to plant more trees. But I digress. So while all of this is happening, So the estate is on fire. Right. We find out the estate is on fire because what are one of the people who got broken out of the jail?

Penelope Blossom. Mother Blossom is back and I am very, very excited. She shows up when Cheryl and Minerva are like sexy dancing in front of Nana Rose. And I just, poor Nana Rose. Can I just say it? So Penelope Blossom, she's. shows up and she's like, the trees are on fire. We have to pray for wind. There was a lot of praying in this episode. It did confuse me because I don't remember ever having any prayer

before. So this is why this is a great theory, Corey. Okay. So they show the blossom women pray, quote unquote, for a storm to stop their maple groves from burning down. Is it possible that the way we're getting a tie-in or crossover to Sabrina is because it turns out that Cheryl and or the Blossom women are all witches that don't know yet and need to be trained? That would be cool. That would be a twist, a last minute twist that they did not set up at all and that definitely came out of nowhere that they did not plan for, but I would still support it. But I will also say that we also had this same theory as well from old Apes McNeil.

Shout out. I love your emails. Keep them coming. Which I also like either they're witches or did not. And Minerva, who was the interloper that they were going to sacrifice, was Minerva the only witch and stopped it from hitting Thornhill. Yes. Okay.

Right. Because obviously something's been going on with Minerva, right? And we didn't get any real clarity on that. She looks great in that purple coat though. When they started walking through the forest, it was like, yes. Fuck under those maple trees. We have been wondering what seeds they're planting with Minerva because we know they're planting them, We don't know what they are.

She's involved due to the, again, totally forgotten art forgery. She becomes romantically involved with Cheryl. She's obviously a huckster of some kind. We don't know why. We don't know what kind of evil interloper she is. But her being a witch, I like that. I would be fine with the entire Blossom family being witches, but I think I like an interloper witch more.

Yes. But then it harkens back to this curse that Nana Rose keeps bringing up. The curse of the blossoms. So what is this curse? The curse is they can't be happy in love or else the maple trees won't produce maple syrup? That's what Nana Rose said in this episode, because when Cheryl goes to tap the tree, there's obviously another explanation for why there was no maple syrup, but we didn't get that either. Unless it was the palladium.

I don't know anything about it. I don't know. I don't know. In my brain, balladium is, like I said, it's either the pink goo or its shoes

or I, maybe it could be mined the way coal is mine. Also, how is there like a rich, abundant natural resource underneath Blossom land that Hiram Lodge knows about to make himself money,

but the very, very rich, all powerful Blossom family doesn't know about. Or else they, do know about it and they're trying to hide it but again i don't know enough about palladium to know why they would not that that has probably anything to do with why the riverdale writers chose palladium in the first place this is great god they just pull shit out of nowhere and it

makes me so happy and i know it should drive me mad but it doesn't it just makes me happier and happier. Yeah, it's making me a lot happier these days. This episode made me very happy, except when Tabitha chained a tripping jughead to the desk, what she's supposed to be his trip sitter. I screamed. Why would you ever, ever handcuff someone that is tripping nuts on maple mushrooms? Throwing it out there. Talk about the round the world. I have gone with the jughead. I'm in love with him again. You are.

It is, this episode really did it. Even with the facial hair? The vaginal hair is rough. The facial hair is rough. But if there's something about him, he's like, you know what I got to do? Because his fast talking right is agent while he's eating a dog, walk into the central pot, calls him up and was like, kid, I need, oh, they usually use Stephen King in this article. but today they want you to give us a segment from your new book.

Of course he doesn't have anything written yet, but the last time he needed to do something like this, what do you do? He tripped fucking face on some maple mushrooms, so that's what he decides to do again. I appreciate the fact that he asked his, uh-oh, they also kissed. He asked Tabitha. That was a good kiss.

It was a good kiss. He asked Tabitha to be a trip sitter, and she's like, no, I can't. And then the weird, I don't like her, bitch from New York that brought the maple mushrooms to him from New York, by the way. So if there was, God, you imagine? Hey, Speedy, can you bring me also $500 worth of mushrooms? That is what Jeff looked over me and he's like, it is funny. Either the Riverdale writers know nothing about drugs and how much they cost or it is more fun.

And I do think it's the latter. I think it's more fun to be like, $500. Like, that's not $500 with the mushrooms. Unless what kind of fucking mushrooms are in? They're covered in palladium. The people in the Riverdale Writers' Room are like us. Like, they're our age. They must know.

It's not like back in the 90s when there was like portrayals of drugs that didn't make any sense. I mean, although presumably writer's rooms and Save by the Bell were also like young people who probably know about drugs too. Yeah. But like, yeah, it's true. Why did they make it $500? Why did they make it like the most 90s-esque conversation with a drug dealer ever? When he's like, yeah, speedy, yeah, that's the stuff. I need the good stuff.

It was. Send a runner. I imagine it's probably easier for quote-unquote teen television to make it be a little bit more not believable because then it's not like, oh, 80 bucks for an eighth? I could do that. You know, like that's, you're right. It's probably not good. to do that. It's better. It's like, no, no, no. It costs $500 for a satchel. Yeah, and Tabith

is a real prude about it first. I also went on a journey with this. I was like, Jughead, are you really a writer if you can literally not tell any story that hasn't happened to you directly? And if you can only write when you're fucked up, like only, only, only write when you're fucked up, he always has writers block. For years, the guy has has, He's like a Hemingway. Okay. He needs to be drunk and he needs to have a good time to be able to write when he goes down to his teen sex bunker. Can you imagine what the sex bunker smells like?

He goes down there and he eats a big old burger. I do appreciate that she cooked up the maple mushrooms on a maple, what was it called? It was like a Rivadale Fantasemburger or something. I don't think that's what it was, but it was something like that. And so he eats it down. And of course, so he blacks out. He comes back to and he's written something. And he's like, oh, that's so great.

And this was after, though, right, that she had come in and was like, that you can't be this stoned while trying to write. She handcuffs him to the desk. Horrible. Listen to me right now. Never, ever, ever do that to someone while they are tripping nuts. And also don't leave them when your only job is to watch them. Don't leave them in an underground bunker by themselves,

especially when they have been recently abducted by aliens because what happens? I think he gets abducted again. We think he gets abducted again. But also, question, he's tripping nuts. he gets handcuffed to the desk and who shows up the bad girlfriend, the bad ex-girlfriend she starts kissing on him

also yucky, yucky, non-consent fucking yucky. Yeah. And und does, but then he looks over and it's Betty from high school. And Betty from high school. Of course, old school Betty takes the hairpin out, gets him out of the handcuffs

and they're like on the bed about to make fuck which also did you notice all of his horrible fun tattoos? That's really what it was. It made me think of, like, how many dirty places I've had sex with people that you take off their shirt and you're like, what is that? That you had no idea where you're like, okay.

I usually remember someone, I shouldn't get into it. Well, you know what? I already said it. He had a vagina around his belly button. A tattoo. Interesting. That's one way you might want to turn back. I guess I'll keep going.

That's why I think I was attracted to truckhead in this episode. And then the moth men show up. We think there's a bright light. And when Tabitha comes in to check on him, he's gone, he's out of the handcuffs, and there's blood all over the manuscript. Much like there was blood when pop. Holly was probably also abducted by aliens on the lonely highway, right? Oh, yes.

Because I don't know why you leave blood when aliens abduct you unless they also, like, beat you up. But yeah, I was a little bit confused by this sequence because in, in Jughead's conversation with Tabitha, where he asks her to be the trip sitter, he's like, basically it was like, I had a really bad breakup with Betty. And meanwhile, we had kind of landed on like that wasn't that bad a breakup. Like it was fine. And he also said you're being a Betty. which is very weird to say to someone you're trying to, like, currently court, to say, yeah, you're being really a ex's name. Very weird. Very, yeah, don't do that. But then, right, and then the flashback, Betty is there.

And then at one point, he, I love sometimes when Riverdale is just like, we're just going to say the thing that we're trying to do. And Doughead goes, yeah, you know, aliens is a metaphor for trauma. Which was very funny. It is very funny. It definitely can be for sure. But is this them telling us? I don't know. Are they telling us that?

And then are we, I felt like that sequence had us meant to believe that like was the trauma Betty? Was it something that, like, or was the trauma bad girlfriend? Like, what trauma is Jughead trying to work through, you know? Or maybe all of the horrible, weird things that happened to him in high school. Right. All the trauma that we saw happen. But it didn't seem like he was talking about that.

Is it? This is a shout out out to Courtney who wrote into us. Again, you can send your Riverdale theories to page 7 podcast at gmail.com. But on to my Riverdale theory. I think the Moth Men's storyline is going to be related to secret military testing in the area. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When Jughead and Tabitha were interviewing Pop Tate,

he mentioned that he thought the lights and electrical disturbances were due to the military base nearby, which has never been mentioned before, has not been mentioned since. If I remember correctly, I think Hiram might have also mentioned a military base when discussing the plans for Sodale and alluding to some secret agenda being behind his plan to destroy Riverdale. Anyway, if there is a secret military testing going on, it could explain the disappearances slash people losing time, as well as Old Man Dreyfus's friends dying from cancer. As well... Sorry, you finish.

No, no. The test could expose the subjects to radiation or could potentially be something along the lines of MK.K. Ultra. Military aircraft slash bases could also explain why people think they're seeing spaces and possibly where Polly is being held. One could also assume that this testing may have been shut down in the past after the, quote, Mothman sightings became too noticeable. But if it was started up again recently, that could also explain why the army wanted to restart

the RROTC program at Riverdale High, after so many years I'm not having one. Ah, this email was written before this episode that also involves a military cover-up? Yes! That's incredible. This person, Courtney, you totally called it. Yes!

Because there's obviously a military cover-up going on with a general, you know, shoot-em-up that is making Archie trying to be part of his cover-up. So this is, this is the, this is it. This is the theory. And also the fact, like, also with like how his, the dude that he saved in the war crime is also back in Riverdale. It's also. And then if you think the mercenary uncle daddy that is also now here and in the picture.

Yep. Yes. Totally. That guy. Courtney, can I just say? Yes. Mazel. Yes, this was written before this episode.

And I just got to say, wow. Yeah, yes. It all pieces together, right, because that guy who Archie saved is obviously sketchy as hell. There's something going on with him. Yes. The general is obviously trying to cover up a bunch of crimes. Something happened where Archie was given this order that ended up with all these people dying. It's totally, even though he was abroad, not in Riverdale, it's all going to be connected.

He probably was supposed to die as well. Uh-huh. Right? Uh-huh. Yep. It seems like he and his friend were both supposed to die. Yes, they were all supposed to. You're totally right. Archie's always supposed to die, but he never does.

He's always supposed to die. Oh, remember the red paladin? Also, I, well thinking about how excited I was about this theory, I got an incredible jolt of excitement, realizing that we have not yet talked about the murder. The pincushion, man. Man, we haven't even, we haven't, this is, it's just, guys, a 42 minute long episode. so much happened insane the twins

and we have been over here speculating about what was going on with those twins for a long time and we were wrong we were wrong they exist they do exist however

they also have the serial killer gene and how do we know that because they pushed a child down the stairs and he broke his shoulder and was just like he's like incapacitated

And they're all just like, yes, we're going to eat our cake. Because they're little psychopaths. So now we've got two new serial killers in the Cooper family. And who joins the two new serial killers in the family? The two old serial killers in the family. Yes, we are talking about Charles and Chick. Yes, did they get out because of the prison riot? Yes.

Did they go to the Cooper household? because Alice Cooper secretly got ordained and has been seeing Charles in prison so that she could marry the two of them? Yes. Yes. Inexplicably, it seems that Alice did this before knowing that there would be a prison break, right?

She was going to marry them in the prison. But then conveniently, there's a prison break. And rather than terrorizing the rest of the town with all their other fellow prisoners, they come to their childhood home that neither of them grew up in his children. that they have both reclaimed, the family that they have both reclaimed, and make Alice marry them, and then make one of the twins, ask one of the twins to stab the guy who is writing his thesis,

the FBI guy who Betty was banging, is writing his thesis on the serial killer gene and the Cooper family. He, that, I don't like him. I don't like him. I'm glad he got stabbed. So yeah, dumb fuck Glenn shows up. He says his dissertation is titled Family of Darkness, varying displays of the serial killer gene in the Cooper family tree. But he was using getting to know her family as a guys to get to know her better when in reality he was writing a dissertation about her family. She slapped him eventually, but she should have slapped him even sooner. Because I was like slap him harder. I was so mad. You've been in a relationship with this guy for like months. Like that is, talk about, I mean, she's already got fucking trust issues. Yeah. But that is just like add it to the fucking pile.

Jesus Christ. I know. And also, can we give a shout out to chick's wig? Yes, Chick's hair. Is it a wig or I don't know what it was, but I love it? Chick's hair, his entire vibe. Like, obviously his vibe when he was on the show was like, I'm really creepy. You never quite know what I'm up to.

And his vibe today was more like that, but also like, hey, had had a lobotomy. Like he was just totally like, hello, Alice. Hello, sister, Betty. He was so creepy and like dead on the inside. But yet, I guess him and Charles are still very happy together. Charles used to be, you know, Mr. Slick, FBI, not FBI, serial killer, not serial killer.

Now he, they just embraced Charles as like absolute lunatic. He was like a terrifying, maniacal. Can I throw it out there? Sexier than he used to be. I think prison made him sexier, and there's very few people you can say that about. He looks really good. I kind of like the wild in his eyes. Yeah, he did look a lot better.

I did not like him. I did not like him at all before, and he was a little bit more compelling in this scene. Although he does force Betty to stab Glenn so that the child doesn't have to. No, he doesn't force her to stab. They were playing a game. The game was called the pincushion. man. I was like, this is like genuinely creepy.

Having two murderers be like, now we're going to play the pincushion man. Trying to get a child to put a knife into a full-grown man was actually genuinely creepy. Yeah, that actually upset me. I was really, really hoping that the little evil serial killer child didn't do it. You would have been fine with it? I think they would have been fine with it. They would have been fine with it. You didn't completely fine with it.

So, of course, Betty's like, I'll do it. the kids go upstairs and she knows, you know, because she's trained in the FBI, she knows exactly where to stab Glenn so that it would, would miss all of the vital organs inside of him. And then she, snap, snap, snap. And she goes after them because also we forgot to mention when they sit down at the child birthday party that they broke into after breaking out of the prison, they just put their guns on the table because they all have guns. Right.

I don't know how, but maybe they dug them somewhere. And so she gets the guns out from the two of them. Alice Cooper shoots Charles. And so now Charles is in the ICU at Shanksha. That's right. Alice shoots Charles and she's very sad because that's still her son. Still her son. But it was a big brawl.

And what are you going to do? And now Betty is going to become a trucker to become undercover effing. be I to go kill people on the lonely highway? Is that what the, is that what the expectation is at the end of this episode? I was unclear on what's going to happen next with Betty because her whole thing was like working with Glenn. And now she stabbed him.

And he's not even working, he wasn't even trying to work with her at all. He was just trying to get to know her family. So, right. So she, now she's like the lonely highway has 200 miles and I'm going to explore it. Right. I don't, she's going to go back and forth. looking for Polly on the entire length of the lonely highway. And I imagine tying up innocent truckers to trees and menacing them to try and go find

her sister. But we're not going to fucking find out until July. So I guess we've got time to think about it. Unbelievable. I can't believe how much I loved this episode. And now we have to wait until July. July. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself.

What is higher I'm going to do? Also, we didn't even bring up the Veronica and chat thing. I don't give a fuck. No, that was done. She's trying to get, she's now being blackmailed by her husband. And also yucky, because he blackmailes her to get her to go to New York. She goes to New York and he's like, I signed the papers. She's like, thank you.

And so she bangs him one last time. And then he doesn't, he didn't sign the papers because he's blackmailing her blackmail on top of blackmail. It's Black Males Square now because he signed up her new Uncut Gems Jewelry store. He opened up fraud things. I don't know anything about economics. She was doing insider trading, I think. And he- The She-Wolf of Wall Street.

Because she was the She-Wolf of Wall Street. And so he knows that she was doing insider trading. And then he also did something like illegal, it will look like she did it with the jewelry store. And we learned all of this. We learned amidst all of this, we learned that Veronica doesn't just kick him to the curb because she feels like bad that one night they got into a fight

and she wished that he was dead. And then he crashed their helicopter. Accident. And then the only interesting thing about this storyline to me was kind of that. And then when she was like, did you crash it on purpose? Because that's some real, like he,

I knew he was an abuser. He's obviously in a controlling abuser. And I wouldn't put it past him to have crashed it on purpose. I think that he did. I think that we're about to find, well, in July, we're about to find a much darker side of Chadwick.

He's not just a boring piece of shit. He's definitely like a terrible, terrible, dark psychotic abuser. I am worried that it's going to get to a point that he's going to become physically abusive and then Archie's going to kill him. That's 100% what will happen. I would bet my money on it. And I don't want to, I don't want to watch that. Personally, I would rather that there's not domestic abuse in this, but you know, at the same time, there was gay bashing the last episode. So who knows? I mean, I also don't, who knows where it's going to be?

I wish it wouldn't. I agree. Can we just keep it fun, sexy? But I also do want Chad to die. So if that's how he has to die, then I guess, well, I guess that's what has to happen. I know. I've been wanting the vigilante justice against Chad from Archie. I don't want it to be about, yeah, like domestic abuse, but I think you're totally right.

I think that that's where they're going to take it so that they can justify that Chad's going to get killed by Archie, but then Archie's going to be tortured about it. Oh, my God. He's going to feel so bad. Is he going to become physically abusive? and then he and Hiram are going to, they're on again, off again, relationship,

are they going to team up and go kill the fuck out of Chad? Which, you never know. That I would watch. I wouldn't watch it. And then Hiram and Archie kiss. Hiro! That I would watch.

Hiro! He is just, I love that he doesn't have to pretend to be nice anymore because he's not even Daddy anymore. It is just he is solely a crime lord now and still sexy as fuck dude still sexy although i miss him in that football sweatshirt

from last week yeah yeah he just turned 50 mazzle but can you imagine wait hire him or marconsoilo marconsoil's okay can you imagine i don't even look that good now and i'm 33 he's just good lord i mean i think that he's a paladin of mine oh i want to get in there and go Pick, pick, pick, pick, pick. Oh, I just want chunks for myself. Uh-oh, is it creepy? Maybe. But is Riverdale going to be burned to the ground?

Can the one firefighter in the town control all of the fires that are being started in this episode? I didn't even think about the fact that Archie is the only firefighter. There's no firefighters. There's a firefighter. What about all the trees? There's a forest fire. Lord knows, I don't think it's rained in Riverdale in a minute. What's going to happen?

And there's not even any prisoners to force into labor to put out the fire like they do in real life in California. Nope, they can't even do that. No, they were too busy using the prison labor to mine palladium and burn down the town. So they can't use them to fight the fires as well. Maybe the boys that live in the woods happen to have just like big hoses. And then they'll come out and be like, we are always here ready to fight the fires. And then, man, where are the boys who live in the woods?

Where are the boys that live in the boxing ring? The boys that live in the boxing thing. The ganglies. Who are they? The ones living in Archie's house? The gooies. Goolies. But also the ganglies works as well.

And now we know also at this point in time, I imagine a lot of this and what it seems, this huge break, is because of they had. extra pandemic record like shoot issues as well as now Tony just went to go have her baby in real life so I imagine a lot of things had to get put on hold so we will be back but I will say I mean what the fuck else is going on in July yeah no I'm I mean I can't wait that they now that they finally got me back in I did when when Kevin goes I love exposition in Riverdale Kevin goes, well, Tony's not here because she's on bed rest for her pregnancy. It was just like what I went. Thank you.

Aliens is a symbol for trauma, as a metaphor for trauma. I just, I love it when they spell it out. I'm like, sometimes I want you to spell it out for me. Tony is pregnant in real life. She's having a baby. Remember her pregnancy bed rest. Pregnancy bed rest. And what about the serial killer jeans?

Oh, also real quick, he did, Glenn also did say that the Black Hood did not have the serial killer gene. Yeah, I didn't notice that too. That was a surprise. I thought that he did. I thought that's where the serial killer gene came from. I thought that was like the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah.

He was like, oh, he didn't have it, but he became a serial killer. And you do have it, but you didn't. I think they all got it. I think every single one of them has it. Right? Yeah. I think that's the point. Right, but, right, but also the twins, right, because the twins have Cooper blood, but they also have blossom blood.

So those twins, they might be, they're fucked. Yeah, they're fucked. They might be witches. They might be cursed. They might be serial killers. Who knows? Who absolutely knows. They are definitely, that is a product of incest, though, right?

Yeah. Yeah, because they're cousins. They were first cousins, right? Yeah. Yeah. So who knows what's going to happen? Oh! Oh, thanks, Riverdale.

We needed you. You came in like a Caped Crusader and saved this last portion of the pandemic. And you'll be back and we'll be fully vaccinated and hopefully we'll be smiling for other reasons by then. And we're going to completely forget what happened by the time that July rolls around. If there's one thing I know about Riverdale, it's that when we start recording Riverdale Roundup again, I'm going to be surprised about everything that I learned. Oh my God, do you remember everything was on fire? And I can't wait for it.

Thank you guys so much for joining us today on this episode of Riverdale Roundup again. We will be back in July. But this was our roundup about season five, episode 10, the pin cushion man. And you know what? Almost little sad that there weren't more pins than that pincushion man. He deserved it. He did. He did.

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