Page 7 - Riverdale Roundup Vol. 11: Women Were Sufferin'

Episode Date: March 29, 2018

Jackie, Molly & Marcus discuss Chapter Twenty-Nine: Primary Colors and all the twists, turns and...Bravo's Andy Cohen?!? Want to help the show? Take our confidential survey: goo.gl/forms/K1O5fuaUC...L8WlfOQ2 Patreon subscribers get even more hot goss! www.patreon.com/page7podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:01:00 You know what? You know what? Right up top. I didn't realize, I am a theater major and I didn't realize the Claudius thing was a Hamlet thing. Throwing it out there. Did not hit that did not hit me either. The episode that we're going to be discussing today, it's Chapter 29 primary colors. And some could argue this may be.
Starting point is 00:01:27 one of the dumbest Riverdale episodes yet. But, Markas, women were suffering till suffrage. So, till suffrage. Oh, that song was so embarrassing. It was so embarrassing. Molly, I would like your take on the feminist propaganda song. As a feminist, I do not endorse that song because it is not a high-quality song. Yeah, but they called out the...
Starting point is 00:01:57 what the 19th amendment right yes well i mean it was definitely about women's suffrage which is which is neat you know which happens in riverdale molly think of the suffragettes yeah but they're like opening the way this student council election it's totally opening the way like it's not it's i mean are they the first women to ever run for student council president it's otherwise it's not even relevant I don't know why they're making it such a big deal. I love how big of a deal they're making it. I also love that sophomores are running for student council president. Yeah, there does not seem to be a heavy senior presence on the Riverdale campus.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Absolutely not. Is Reggie also 16 years old? I guess. Yeah, I guess so. And I mean, I appreciate that, you know, I like Riverdale when it tries to, when it's like, oh, this guy is a sexist pig. Let's run against him. I was with that plot point. I was like, yeah, Reggie is a dick.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Let's run against him. But then the women were suffering until suffrage line. They did lose me. Yeah, but then Ethel comes in with the bomb of all bombs, bitch. She made photocopies. Yeah, I'm here for, like, James O'Keefe Ethel, like, you know, here to sabotage the campaign. I actually think it's great. And when, like, Ethel, like, out for revenge because of her wronged family, I love that
Starting point is 00:03:25 that point. I love Ethel's whole shtick during this entire episode. And by the way, Mr. Mugs was the name of Jim Jones's chimpanzee that died in Jonestown. Interesting. I wonder if that's what they're referring to. Get that chimp in at the prison. There are so many things about this episode that I love. And well, it might be a little bit too woke. I think Riverdale might have crossed the line into
Starting point is 00:03:52 too woke. I do appreciate that because they're building a private prison, the sides now are all these people being like, we don't want to live in a penal colony, and then there's fucking Archie, who's just like, I don't understand why everybody's not super in support of the prison. Because he has the wool pulled over his eyes, Molly.
Starting point is 00:04:11 God, it's just, this episode is just Archie proving himself to be such a fucking moron over. I don't know how many times I just thought, shut the fuck up, Archie! Archie's so dumb, and he's always been dumb. But in this episode, I was like, Jughead needs to stop being his friend. Although I got to say he was spot on with the fact that there was no way that Jughead was going to go through with a hunger strike.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I'm going to say that might be the smartest thing that Archie's ever said. And the other thing that I did like about this episode was, as I've been trying to say on Pastor Ridale Roundups, Veronica needs to figure out, slash maybe the writers, need to figure out what is Veronica's deal? Is she a good person or a bad person? Is she a protagonist or an antagonist? because her parents are antagonists. Yeah. But she's a protagonist, but yet she's working for her parents. And that actually all kind of came to a head in this episode.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. And I think they were trying to do something like really interesting with that, but I don't think they ever quite hit the mark on it. It was like actually making Veronica somebody interesting. Because when Ethel threw the strawberry shake on her, I loved it. Yeah. I was like, yeah. But then on the other hand, I also love Veronica punching Reggie in the very next scene.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Loved it. Yeah. Loved it when she punched him in the face. I was like, yeah, you go, girl, you get him! Yeah, I mean, I think, right, I think the problem is, is it that the character is conflicted or is it that the writers are inconsistent? And I think that, unfortunately, it's usually the latter. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I think it's hilarious that the biggest problem that Betty had about the shake was that Ethel brought it all the way from Pops. That's what she focused on. And Betty, I don't even know. Do we want to get into Betty yet? Or do we want to really just focus on the election here for a second? Because Betty's storyline in this episode is bizarre, to say the least. Yeah, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And the chick, Betty and Chick storyline, like a lot. Oh, my God. Well, one thing I do want to address, we're talking about, like, the very early part of the episode. Why was Veronica dressed as like a cartoon waiter with that gigantic bow tie? What was that? Yeah. I think it's just because she's from Society, New York, Marcus. Don't you see people dress like that all the time in the metropolis?
Starting point is 00:06:30 And also, what's with the Watch What Happens Live crossover, Flemstones Meet the Jetsons. Why? Why? What? Andy Cohen. Well, I didn't know. They just kept saying Andy Cohen and I kept saying to myself over and over again,
Starting point is 00:06:46 who is Andy Cohen? I had no idea. And why is he in their living room and no one else is there? Not even a photo op or anything. He's just privately in the living room listening to them have like a family meeting. But also how is that how she cajole Josie into being on her side? Was that, but I'll tell Andy Cohen about you. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I actually think Andy Cohen is very funny. But also, who gives a fuck, bitch? Well, but then we learned that Josie was just in it for the sabotage. Yeah, and that was a great turn. It was like, Josie's back. Yeah. Josie is back. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:21 As much as I was shielding my eyes from the suffrage song, I was very, very happy to see Josie have, like, be given a personality again, and to see some of that nice, you know, teamwork that we have seen in previous Riverdale episodes when, like, the girls team up together against a common cause, and now the common cause is Veronica. And that I'm totally insupportive, because Veronica has gone too far. She works for her criminal parents, and then she's like, why doesn't everybody like me? Yeah, Bronca can kiss my ass Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:52 I don't know I think that they wanted to kiss some asses When they were all brushing each other's hair At the sleepover What was with that weird hair brushing Daisy chain? That was so weird I think that we should start doing it Next time I come into town
Starting point is 00:08:07 I would like us all to sit Just back to fronts And just brush each other's hair soft In silence Totally how regular girls Sleepovers are And then You totally make out
Starting point is 00:08:20 I mean, I guess this actually is a teen thing where you make out with someone even though there's a lot of other people in the room. Yeah, it's definitely a team. So that was fine. Yeah, especially when they're laying in bed together. Hello. We were so close to seeing them kiss and they're all wearing their like weird, um, bigguiled outfits, which I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was hilarious about Cheryl's like, yeah, like beguiled. Why?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Have you seen the movie beguiled? No one wants to be in that. But I have to say, as much as I do love Cheryl a lot, I have grown to. love her but are we certain what Tony sees in her? I think she just sees how hot she is. She is hot. Yeah. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Not at all. But I think, I really like Cheryl in this episode because Cheryl has been caught in a murder plot most foul. Yes, yes. The whole Cheryl murder mystery thing is great and I totally did not get the Claudius Hamlet thing either and that's, I feel very
Starting point is 00:09:16 sheepish now. I know. I was very upset. I was like, why ever I thought about that? At least you didn't. I went four years of fucking theater school. You can't be? Well, on the other hand, we're not really trained to look for Shakespeare references in Riverdale. We're mostly concerned with, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:31 the song from Cruel Intentions. Like, that's what, that's the caliber of reference we're used to in Riverdale. But now I'm like, how many Shakespeare references have I missed in Riverdale, you know? Not many. Not when Andy Cohen is haunted about Riverdale. Is Bravo really that?
Starting point is 00:09:50 big in this small upstate New York town? I mean, I guess so. I guess, you know, they are teens. Oh, man, you just said New York again, and I forgot about the cupcake and kisses party that Veronica had to. What? That was so gross. Wait, when was the cupcake and kisses party?
Starting point is 00:10:10 When Veronica was running for, she was campaigning for student body president, and she had that little booth where you get a cupcake from Magnolia Bakery, flown in from New York and you get a kiss. And then Archie is sitting there next to her like guarding, like making sure that the guys don't get handsy. But it's like, Jesus, Veronica, you're better than that. Archie's getting cucked also. Let's be honest. Hardcore.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Veronica is just, you know, she's doing her own thing. Archie is being played on every single level. He gave his blood to hire him Lodge. And now he has to betray his best friend. And his dad, he has to betray his whole damn family. and he's such an idiot that he never saw it coming. No, and at the same time, no, I'm very happy that Molly Ringwald is back and back to stay for a bit, I guess, because no one is defending Archie's father.
Starting point is 00:11:02 No one's doing anything. Oh, the whole town's going to get behind Fred now that he's running for mayor, called it. Yeah, of course you got. He had to run for mayor. Somebody's got to run against Hermione Lodge. Are you kidding me? But what I love about Fred running for mayor is that that dude has no charisma. Like, it's like the whole thing about Luke Perry being an actor
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's like he has no charisma He has a fucking wet sock I don't know I'd follow him If he told me to like yeah we're gonna get this town Back on track and be like You know what? Yeah, Brad Especially once he starts showing his plans for Riverdale 2020 Because man that is gonna
Starting point is 00:11:40 He's taking him to the top He got so embarrassingly played in last week's episode Where he was like oh I guess the lodge is wanting to run for mayor and now he's like, I'm going to run for me. I just, it's embarrassing. I'm like, ugh, dad, you know? It's like, he's just like an embarrassing dad. Was Luke Perry always this boring?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Like, even as a sex symbol, was he this boring? He's always got the squinty eyes. Yeah, I think he's always been a bit of a one-trick pony. Yeah. I think so. And speaking to, like, him and the conversations that he has with Archie, like, Archie doesn't know how prisons work. No, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No. Definitely not. Archie has no idea how the world works. And it's being put on a great display now that he's like, why doesn't everybody love this prison? Yeah, you know, it's just, you know, it's like prisons where you put like bad people and there have been like bad people in Riverdale,
Starting point is 00:12:31 like recently, like three of them. You know, like there's been like three bad people in Riverdale and so, you know, we build a prison and that's where we put them all. Yeah, if there was a prison, my dad wouldn't have gotten shot here in Pops. Idiot. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:12:45 There's a prison like. a mile away. Remember when they went with FP? There's a prison right there. Yeah, Shanksha. Shanksha. Yeah, shanksha. But wait, speaking of F.P., if we can pivot to Betty, we learned a lot about the Cooper family in this episode. And of course, we learned that Chip's DNA is not blossom DNA. It's not blossom DNA, but still, well, I guess what is, what is Alice? his main name. Interesting. I don't know. I got no idea. But there is a different father.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And Alice came right out and said there's a different father. But she staunchly denies that FP is the father. I love that she dropped that knowledge, though. Of course y'all banged. Come on. Oh my God. I just can't wait for tonight because I saw the next on Riverdale too. It's like, they're going.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They have to fuck in that episode, right? Well, also in the next on Riverdale, I think that that guy, who chick killed is gonna come back to haunt him because remember what like three episodes ago when he fucking killed the guy and then that plot point totally disappeared I think it's gonna be back well they mentioned a little bit in this episode when uh he's like your hair and your DNA
Starting point is 00:14:00 is all over it I never touched that guy's like ooh good point check yeah until that is a good point absolutely forgotten that they had killed the guy and that Betty had called all the guy all the people in that guy's contacts oh it's speaking of the bomb drop of a Betty dropping the bomb that her and jughead or fucking, she brings out the wig. Like, what are you doing with this? And chick goes, she wears it when she has sex with jughead. Like leaned up over the table.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And then Betty totally fell for it and was like, how did you know that? And he was like, I was guessing. And I was like, obviously, Betty. Yeah, deny, deny, deny. Also, just because you have a wig doesn't mean you're sexually active. I had wigs long before I was sexually active. I also had a lot of things. I had clown costumes.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I wasn't banging in the clown costume. Yeah, and Alice seemed really, you know, kind of distraught that her daughter was fucking Jughead. But then, right, the reason that FP came up is because she was like, I know all about the charisma of the Jones men. In the same episode where she said, I'm not going to tell you who chick's father is. Hello. But also, of course, they're fucking.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Are you kidding me? Yeah. Of course they are. Yeah. Alice and F. I don't know what. No, no, Jughead and Betty. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, I don't understand why she was so surprised. Right. They're 15. They're proactive in the government. Everyone listens to them and not the actual paper that comes out in the town. Of course she's fucking him. He's got influence. Yeah, they're basically running Riverdale at this point.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But also, I got to say that I think that Jughead really like gave Veronica a run for her money of who was the most annoying in this episode. Doughead did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even when he was all, like, wet and tied up to that front of the high school that he went to for four days, which I thought was very funny that they dropped that knowledge as well. Yeah, he was just, he was insufferable. Yeah, he wanted to hit him.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, in that speech that he gave, because Archie brought up that same point. It's like, oh, you went to Southside for like four days. He's like, no, Southside is where my parents went to school. And the people that live in the South Side, they kept it safe during the riots. I'm like, whoa, what? The riots? I know, I was wondering about the riots. The Riverdale riots?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, were there race riots at Riverdale? But there's no, but there's like all of these, they like keep like juxtaposing all of these like historic civil rights battles into Riverdale without necessarily making it be about like black people. So they're just like, there were riots. We won't describe what the riots were about. No, Molly, it was about the tribesmen. Don't you remember Tony's people?
Starting point is 00:16:43 There was that too. Right. There was the indigenous uprising. And then it sounds like there was maybe also some civil rights era riots, but that involved the South Side Service. I didn't really say. They just said the riots. The riots.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Like everybody knows the riots. Yeah. And, you know, in this episode, I was like, I can't, you know, Jughead's righteousness is definitely getting annoying. But at least he has some thoughts in his brain, where Archie is just like, bring on the prison. And I can't cope with it anymore. And by the way, how long did it take the swords and serpents to finally have a meeting?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Six episodes, seven? Right. Which I find very interesting since, I'm sorry, I'm going to start calling her Titi, the way Cheryl calls her. Since Titi is joining the Riverdale Vexins, I mean, should she be allowed in the swords and serpents anymore? Good question. was a good dance that she did. Man, how about that dance? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It was a nice dance. Yeah, I still think she's the sexiest of them all. She's getting there. Also, can we talk about why the wrestling team was the one who had to cut the protesters off of the fence in their uniforms? Well, Haram was the one that suggested. He's like, I can't do it, but kids can do it. Get the wrestling team.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Send them out there. But why did they have to put on their swing? sweatsuits. Like, they're showing up in sweatpants, all wearing their Riverdale wrestling team shirts with a lot of bolt cutters. Where do they get the bulk cutters from? Yeah. Also, how over dramatic it was as he clipped.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Chains off a jughead. It was just like, dude, he's just lightly chained to the front of, what, a statue? It was very weird. It's symbolic, though. You're right. You're right. I forget. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And I think perhaps most of all. It's symbolic of perhaps a very, very difficult time in Jughead and Archie's friendship. This is a big betrayal. I don't know if it's going to recover. Yeah. I don't know if it is. But I don't know. I can see Archie coming back around because when Hiram Lodge keeps saying like, there would be consequences.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's like what consequences? Like what you're going to make is your daughter break up with them? You're not going to kill him. He might. I don't know. He might kill Fred. Ooh. Oh, he could possibly.
Starting point is 00:19:13 kill Fred. I find it interesting that Hiram Lodge's only guy is the 15-year-old, though, right? He's got nobody else to turn to? Yeah, and do you think Hiram Lodge, like, this mobster, and ever envisioned that he was going to be saying the word jughead so much? I mean, he did say Papa Poutine for generations, so. Yeah, because Hiram's like, I heard about Jughead's hunger strike. It's like, why are you so up in this 15-year-old shit. Also, that hunger strike seemed to be entirely private.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Like, the point of a hunger strike is like... Especially, and he immediately broke it too. Anthony Brodha Berg is like, yeah, you're right, I am hungry. Like, I don't know if he was advertising his hunger strike. It doesn't seem like it seems like he just
Starting point is 00:20:03 told Veronica Archie and Betty about it. You know, that's just not the best politics, political strategy to do a protest that no one knows about. However, I wonder if he's going to use it in his new campaign to run for student body president. Dun, dun, done, done. That was a dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. I mean, that was pretty dumb.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, we knew that was going to happen. Yeah, although I really want Veronica to get what's coming to her. She's really been trying to have her cake and eat it too, and she's been working for her criminal family. And it's about time that that comes back and bites her. Yeah. And I'm thinking now that Mama Andrews is back in town, Molly Ringwald, I'm thinking maybe Archie's going to start coming around, especially with that wonderful speech that she gave about,
Starting point is 00:20:53 you don't talk to your father like that. That was nice. I like that a lot. I mean, somebody's got to put the motherfucker in line, right? But still, you know, Junkhead running for student body president, like, how does he think that's going to help in his fight against Hiram Lodge? because the municipal government and the East student government
Starting point is 00:21:15 seemed to be intertwined. Oh yes, they work very closely together. They work very closely together. Just like the city newspaper and the school newspaper. I mean, at the same time, the biggest story that the register has right now is that Hermione Lodge knows Andy Cohen.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So she's not just a housewife. She also is a housewife that knows Andy Cohen. who walks in and says, Hi, I'm Andy Cohen. And that's it. And that's it. Bravo's Andy Cohen. But we do, we have to shift back to Cheryl.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah. And number one, how she is going to be killed. How Nana did not die from falling down the stairs in her wheelchair. Oh, she's a lucky bird. She's very lucky. Honestly, the whole family is fairly lucky. the fact that like Penelope Blossom did not be, she's not dead after being burnt almost to a crest.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Half melted trollop. Ten cent, trollop. Oh, she healed so well. And honestly, I never thought about that to the point that she's a very, she's very good at being a town prostitute, which I'm surprised because her body must be very sensitive and covered his arms, right? Yeah, because it was, it was what,
Starting point is 00:22:45 three months ago that she was involved in a fire at which she got like third degree burns? Over 90% of her body, yeah. She is the town's, she and chick are the town's only sex workers that we know of, but she is. She's like Wolverine. Fully covered in burns. Oh, and speaking of a chick, what, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin! What are you doing? Kevin is on a chick's set. Oh, if we talked about this a few weeks ago, we were like,
Starting point is 00:23:17 are they just going to have several gay characters? And they do now. They have three gay principles, which is great. Yeah, that's great. But, you know, what is, what has Chick done? That's what I started thinking on this episode, because we don't actually even know that he killed that guy. It might have been Alice that killed the guy.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So really, all in all, chick has never done anything bad. Except for cut pictures. They've been riding this chick's creepy. He does cut it. They've been riding this chick's creepy or chick has something to hide, ride for like, what are we, like, an episode like 13 of this season? They've been riding this for a while. Like, nothing yet has happened. You're right.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yeah, six, seven episodes they've been riding this thing. Yeah. And, yeah, nothing. It's just Betty being super weird. Like, with the lighter thing, that was weird. The lighter thing was great. That was really weird. Flick, flick while he's laying in bed crying
Starting point is 00:24:11 And the sheets pulled up to his chin Yeah, and we're supposed to be so scared of chick And he was just like, a zippo! And then he was like cowering with the rest of the next. Fire! I mean, immediately burst into tears. Yeah, and I just can't take Betty seriously as like, You know nothing about my darkness.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It's like, all right, come on, Betty, you put on a wig twice. Yeah. And that's it. Betty's darkness is bad. You stepped on that guy when he was in the hot tub once. Yeah, and poured syrup on him. Imports syrup on them.
Starting point is 00:24:44 No, guys, she holds her fists so tight that sometimes her fingernails cut her hands. Guys, the darkness. Oh, the half moons. I forgot. And then she put on a wig and fucked a drughead. And that's her darkness. Darkness. I mean, technically for a 15-year-old, I guess that is fairly dark.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Right? I guess it's not, I don't know, I guess. I mean, she was involved with the serial killer, and I did forget that she brought down Clifford Blossom. I did forget that as well. And I also forgot about the Sugar Man. I forgot about the Sugar Man, too. But that's not really darkness.
Starting point is 00:25:23 She wrote an article. I mean, right. The darkness is that she's been tangentially involved in like four deaths, which is admittedly dark, but that's not coming from inside of her. That's just circumstance. That is true. Yes, she's been tangentially involved in nearly half a dozen deaths before the age of 17. Yeah. That's pretty dark.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You know? I think at that age I was just smoking weed and dreaming about sex, you know? I was writing poetry and graveyards. I mean, that's dark. That is dark. You're just like Betty. And finally, at the end of the episode, we find out that Cheryl is being sent to what seems like. gay conversion therapy making this the episode where Riverdale is dancing real on a
Starting point is 00:26:13 they're dancing on a real thin woke line right now yeah oh yeah and I'm really afraid that they're about to go over the deep end with a uh an election and see over like an election arc I'm real afraid of that too woke yeah too why why did she have pigtails though yeah you know I mean Maybe it was like a Harley Quinn reference or something. Why, did she go through gay conversion therapy as well? No, she was in like a mental asylum with the pig tails, maybe. Well, they're going to put some kind of juice in her, and apparently it's not good. Is it the same, like, nunnery that Polly got sent to?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yeah, is it like the sisters of mercy? Yeah, they just, Riverdale tends to solve all of their problems by just sending girls to Catholic institutions. And I'm just not convinced that that nunnery would do gay conversion. I want somebody who actually knows, like, do Catholic nunneries do gay conversion therapy? I'm not certain that they do. Like, sending girls away to nunneries when they get pregnant, I feel like is actually at least a historical thing. Yeah. Whereas I don't associate gay conversion therapy with, like, nuns.
Starting point is 00:27:29 But I might be wrong. I'm not familiar with any sort of gay conversion therapy. Yeah, I got no idea. Or maybe they're secret Mormons, you know? Yeah. You never know. I feel like I find it very interesting that I, that they are taking quite an anti-religion stance, you know, woke. Too, too woke.
Starting point is 00:27:50 They're getting way too woke here because they can't, they already, they definitely proved with the song that they are incapable of doing it. And also what I liked about Riverdale is that like it was progressive without putting it in. bold letters, we are progressive. Like, it was like, everything was treated like very, like, just casually. It's like, yeah, Kevin's gay, his dad's the sheriff, and he's totally cool with it. Right. Like, oh, great. It was normalized.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Just normalized. Exactly, normalized. But now it seems like they're starting to pop more into the We Are woke phase. And I don't like it. Well, and I'm concerned, I'm just actually concerned that they're not going to be. I feel like a conversion therapy is actually such a real intense thing that really ruins people's lives. and I'm not certain that Riverdale will be able to handle that correctly. And I feel like, right, like in the first season, they were like,
Starting point is 00:28:40 it was like teen drama with like a woke flavor. And now it's like wokeness with some teen drama. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah. I think that Tony's going to come, I think she's going to come save Cheryl.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. I'm throwing that out there. Definitely. Oh, yeah. Because Penelope Blossom told her that she was sent to a boarding school in Switzerland, which is obviously not true. and I think that she's going to figure out she's going to talk to Betty
Starting point is 00:29:05 Betty's going to be like I bet she's at the nunnery and I bet they're going to go to the nunnery but how are Betty and Titi going to talk to each other what's going to Titi That's Titi Or it's going to be It might come about once
Starting point is 00:29:21 Betty moves in with a Jughead Which I guess is just going to happen That's also going to happen Yeah Betty's going to move in with Jughead Titi's going to come over Because now Betty's going to be a Southside girl And so yeah she's going to be and T.T.'s
Starting point is 00:29:33 orbit quite a bit here. So. Betty's going to be a sassy. A T.C. makes me laugh so much and so disgusting. It makes it like, you want to suck on my T.T.? It's like, no, thank you. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Oh, and I loved the subtle K.D. Lang reference when Cheryl and T.T. were in bed together. When Cheryl goes, I just had a craving. Constance Cravings. Oh, I didn't even realize that was a Katie Lang reference. You're completely right.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I thought it was at least. No, it totally is. I think you're completely right. And she was really craving a solo sleepover. She just invited all those other girls to just be on the floor brushing each other's hair. Man, I need to get one of those weird mesh robes with the fur at the bottom of it, I guess. And then wasn't there a scene like right after that sleepover that both Josie, and Veronica were at where in the next scene
Starting point is 00:30:34 Josie was like I'm trying to remember who it was but two of the people at that damn sleepover one of them was like I don't really know each other that well and I was watching it and Gidey was like weren't they just in a sleepover together yeah but that was just their inner circle Molly there's like four girls in this damn school they're all best friends
Starting point is 00:30:51 yeah there is definitely I mean this is definitely a school where there are many background characters and they you know they pull Ethel to the front every once and a while. I love it when Ethel comes to the front, honestly. I love Ethel. Apple's great. She's great. Ethel
Starting point is 00:31:09 Mugs. It's a horrible name. Terrible name. It's a really, really bad name. Yeah, they gave her a nice name. I also felt sad when I think Betty was just like, yeah, she needs a wide berth. And I was like, whoa, are you? I don't think that they were trying to make fun of her for being a bigger girl, but I
Starting point is 00:31:26 still thought it was funny. I don't think so. Betty said that? Yeah. What a bitch. I know. Speaking of Cheryl, as her mother was driving her home from the hospital, after they found out that Granny was poisoned with Tannis root. It's like, and Cheryl's sitting there in the car, and you can like see the wheel slowly turning in her head,
Starting point is 00:31:47 like, I think I figured it out. You gave Grandma the Tannis route and then pushed her down the stairs. It's like, Jesus, Cheryl, how long did that take you to fucking put together? Like 45 minutes? Yeah, I thought you figured that out back in the hospital. Yeah, I assumed that you'd figure that out long ago. She's not the brightest, you know, but her lips always look great. They do, they do.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So we'll be back next week. We're still, Riverdale's still on schedule, right? We up, March 28th, it's still coming up. Actually, no, it's tonight. Oh, my God, it's tonight. But we'll be back to talk about Chapter 30, the Noose Titans, next week. Uh-oh, get rid of that school, bitches! Put in a prison!
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah. Prison time! Just build a prison there. So far. He's so dumb. We'll talk to you next week. Bye.

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