Page 7 - Riverdale Roundup Vol. 16: Cheryl in a Barrel

Episode Date: May 24, 2018

Jackie and Marcus recap the season finale "Brave New World" and give their predictions for the next season. Also...Jughead's real name is Forsythe?? Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patr...eon! https://www.patreon.com/page7podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Episode, back to its roots of being one of the weirdest shows of all time, the season finale of Riverdale. Chapter 35, Brave New World, Season 2 of Riverdale in the books. I can't. What a wild ride it has been. I feel like I need to rewatch everything just to see, like, where did this all start? How did we get here? And I'm not talking talking head style. I'm talking Riverdale style. What happened? What is happening?
Starting point is 00:00:56 What's going on? Well, let me ask you first. First of all, how much did the opening scare you, the opening scene? I was, well, first of all, I was like, who's Forsyth? And I didn't realize that that is Jughead's real name. That's Jugheads, that's Jugheads real name. That's Jughead's grave. That's what they did is.
Starting point is 00:01:15 They opened with a grave. and then suddenly switched over to Jughead in the hospital bed, who is doing surprisingly well after taking a 10-person beating? I think that everyone is doing surprisingly well after what happened in the last episode. Also, I mean, not to just jump ahead just real fast, but also, fangs absolutely fine. Totally fine. Completely fine.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Shot in his stomach, like, what, two days ago, but now he's back and he's at serpent meetings. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. know they're good at covering up anything that happens for some reason yeah but Jackie in the end
Starting point is 00:01:54 they were just too many goolies it was like shooting snakes in a barrel why why why did F.P. say it was like shooting snakes in a bit I mean I know I get it I understand it
Starting point is 00:02:10 snakes man we've been waiting for a new snake pun for really long it's been like three or four episodes since the new snake pump because, of course, Jugcat woke up and he found that his sacrifice for going to Penny to get beaten was completely in vain because the goos and the gooies and the serpents still tangled
Starting point is 00:02:30 and the gooies outnumbered them and it was like shooting snakes in a barrel. Like shooting snakes in a barrel. You know, the thing is that I love FP and I love everything about FB but his acting is just so over the top in the show and I love it so much. I really love it too.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I love also that he always looks so tired. You know, it was definitely like shooting snakes in a barrel. I thought that they did a great job of just pretending as if almost none of that happened that they didn't have to show any of the fight. No. That it was all, like, it was just in exposition, which good on you. Yeah. We've seen enough rumbles lately.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Like, we don't need to see another rumble. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was, so there's a lot that happened. I was trying to put it all together as well. So it's like, so we knew at the end of last episode that everything was done by a plot by Hiram Lodge. Yeah. But then on top of everything, he also went out of his way to make a fake phone call to FP to say that Fangs was dead to push the rumble further as if the rumble wasn't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:03:42 But like, that's quite a detail to not overlook. You know what? Good for you, Hiram Lodge. You're really paying attention to the situation here. Oh, Hiram Lodge, he's a mastermind. He's absolutely a mastermind. Okay, I just can't wait to get to Hiram Lodge's supervillain team, but we'll get to that later.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I'm very looking forward to it. Mm-hmm, but of course, did we call, I couldn't remember, Did we call that the second black hood was tall boy? You, uh, you called it. Yes, you definitely did. Okay, I'm just, I'm making sure because I was, I was thinking that I called that shit. Yep. Second black hood, totally tall boy.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But also I like that they didn't show him or bring him back. Or is it? That's what I'm saying. Or is it? Because they just kind of were like, yeah, it's tall boy. Sure. And I don't know if I believe that. I think, I think that they were kind of right.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I think they were spot on that. It's either the sheriff or it has something to do with the sheriff. It has to. Sheriff's not big enough, though. And it's obviously a white guy, and the sheriff is not a white guy. He's of indeterminate race. He is. He's Hispanic.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Okay, he's Latino. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a beautiful man, but he's no good. When they did solve that mystery after they were at the hospital and said, There's another mystery to solve. Yeah, they were getting very Scooby-Doo, this episode, especially when it's like when Betty was just like,
Starting point is 00:05:14 it's like, I'm supposed to be the detective. I'm supposed to be the one that puts it all together. It's like, girl, you ain't never was supposed to be a detective. You fine. The actual line was, I'm supposed to be this great detective. Great detective. But I didn't see what was right in front of me.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Girl, give yourself a break. You know what? You should probably go to school. Maybe go to school. And then there's Cheryl in this. episode Cheryl discovered that her mother and Claudius were working in conjunction with it's Hermione right or was it Hiram that was it was Hiram it was Hiram it was Hiram in the barn and I could not tell you how tickled I got by saying Cheryl in a barrel over and over and over again that's why I was like that
Starting point is 00:06:03 bitch got that barrel so fast so how'd you get up in there a lot of barrel talk in this episode. I love to that like, I feel like we keep joking around about how many episodes there are, but when she saw them in the barns went, hell yeah, we're all feeling it, girl. I know, she is, man, and she's getting so little red riding hood when she was putting the cupcakes in the basket to bring the TT at white worm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, oh, and there's so much that happened with the white worm.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Oh, but did you watch it live? Did you watch it actually on T, like on UPN? Is it on UPN or CW? Some CW, no, I, I, uh, DVR it. Ah, so you missed the horrifically bad 30 seconds to Mars commercial. Oh, no, I saw that. And that is, because it happened over and over and because I have to fast forward through the commercials.
Starting point is 00:07:00 And I pause it to be like, is that Jared Lido? It's like he didn't read. It's like, I watch it. I was like, oh my God. I didn't realize how much this band sucked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not good at it. No, real bad at music. Real bad at music.
Starting point is 00:07:19 But then, and then, of course, they bring back the student council election, which I thought they had completely forgotten about. Have not been talking about it. No one's been working towards it, but what I love is that they know that it is so important that they have to have the student council election, as well as the mayoral election in the same place. Good, good, good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:07:43 You're right, it's all the same. But how did Archie get nominated? How did he win? Well, Archie, okay, so it was Veronica and who was Veronica running with? With Archie. And then Veronica dropped out, so Archie went to the top of the ticket. And then Betty and Jughead were running, right? Which I love that too.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah, they were running and then when they're like laying in bed together, which also, how do you just rent a hotel room? Where do they get the money? I can't even afford to get a hotel room. There's quite a bit in this town, especially in this episode, that 16-year-olds are allowed to do. 16-year-olds are given quite a bit of leeway in the town of Riverdale. Yeah, they are that they're just able to just lounge in bed and not go to school.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And she's like, I guess we shouldn't run for student counsel. It's like, bitch, that's what you're talking about right now? Your father's a fucking serial killer. But I guess we shouldn't run for student council anymore. I guess not. I guess not. And then Josie and Reggie dropped out unceremoniously. And now are Jesse, is Josie and Reggie, are they together now?
Starting point is 00:08:46 They were getting pretty cuddly. His arm was definitely all up on her. But what about that, just quick sidebar, when Moose and Kevin started making out in the bathroom? Ah, yes. Oh, ma'na, ha'mana. But I actually, I commend Kevin for not taking it. advantage of his grief. He did good.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He did pull away at first and then men, he went in for the kill. Yeah, he did. He very much did. Well, also, Midge was cheating on him with fangs. So, you know, he's upset about a lot of things. So the student council, you have Reggie and Josie dropout. You got Jughead and Betty dropping out. You got Veronica dropping out.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So it's just between Archie and Ethel Mugs. and I'm thinking just give it to Ethel. Ethel gets nothing. Give it to Ethel. Let her have it. Let her have something. She's going to do such a better job. Archie's not going to do a good job. He's going to be off solving fucking mysteries the entire time.
Starting point is 00:09:47 He doesn't care about the student council. Get over it. It's not fair. And also, he's a sophomore. Give it to a senior. But that's besides the point. That's besides the point. And I also have to ask you another commercial,
Starting point is 00:10:03 break came. Did they advertise the official Riverdale convention in Parsipney, New Jersey out there in L.A.? Because they sure as hell did here. Oh, yeah. Also, they just had a talk back recently in L.A. And I was very sad that I didn't go. But it's probably for the best I didn't go because it's probably just filled with a bunch of 13-year-olds buying for their attention. And I probably would have felt pretty bad about myself. But even though I'm not ashamed for loving Riverdale, I just couldn't bring myself to go to the talk back. I'm not sure if I can bring my... I was kind of thinking like maybe we should just put aside a little money and just have you fly out for the official Riverdale Convention and Parsipity because it's in like October, so we got plenty of time to plan this.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But I did check... Well, last podcast, we're going to San Diego Comic-Con this year. We're doing a show in San Diego, Duran, and we're also going to be doing adult swim stuff there. And I checked out of curiosity and the entire cast. of Riverdale will also be at San Diego Comic-Con this year. So I think I'm going to have to take a couple hours. And I think I'm just going to have to go meet all of them. We have to go.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Marcus, we have to go. Can we go together? We have to go. If you want to come to San Diego, I don't know. I'll come to San Diego. Who cares? I'll fucking take a train there. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:11:28 San Diego Comic-Con. It's going to be fun. And I'm ready. I am going to meet the entire cast of Riverdale. I just hope that the strapping conquistador father of Veronica Lodge is there because, yes, that is exactly what he is Cheryl Blossom. You are so fucking right. Why isn't he being referred to only as a strapping conquistador? Buenos dees, Veronica.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Buenos dee. That was, I thought, for a second, I was like, is that racist? Are she? Buenos Díez, Veronica. Cheryl Blossom, you fucking cheeky minks. She's so cheeky. So back to Riverdale High. Of course, all of the serpents get a letter saying that they're going to be bused two hours away for overcrowding.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And so the rest of the student body gets behind them. And let me ask you, do they have a storeroom of serpent jackets somewhere? I don't understand. Stand. So, but also what I love is that they all showed up wearing serpent's jackets and essentially Archie was just like, please don't get rid of them. And then the principal was like, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That was it. That was it. They didn't have to riot. They didn't have to walk out. They didn't have to do anything. They just had to ask nicely while everyone was wearing serpent jackets. And that's fine. That was all that they needed.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I think Principal Weatherby is just tired of it all. He's just like, fine, stay. Do your stupid sword and serpent. club. I don't care. Whatever. Just go to class. Someone go to class. Please. I feel like I don't understand why he's not begging on his knees at this point for someone to go to class.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And then there was the election. There's election day. And what Fred Andrews was doing was highly illegal, by the way. You're not allowed to have people in the room where people are voting handing out pamphlets. It's called electioneering, and it is highly illegal. Well, also, isn't it highly illegal to harbor a bunch of fugitives while acting like a short-order cook? What? Hey, he was a cook at Pops for a summer, all right? For a summer.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's sitting there with a griddle, just picking up pieces of bacon with tongs and running away from the conversation. I was like, where's he going with that bacon? What is he doing? He just made a stack of flapjacks for people. I don't understand what's going on. However, I'm going to go ahead and call that Hermione Lodge and Fred Andrews are going to team up in the next season. Oh, they absolutely have to team up in the next season. So Fred Andrews, he gives asylum to all of the serpents that are hanging out at the white worm.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Because all the serpents, because, by the way, Sunnyside Trailer Park got burnt down. Yeah? Except for John Hed trailer. trailer. But the rest of it got burned down. So they were all hanging out at the white worm. And then Mineta was going to do a raid on the white worm. Not sure why he was going to do a raid or what the pretense for the raid was going to be.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Lawless. How many of them 30? I think it was about 30 of them walked from the south side up to the north side, avoiding the cops. And for all given asylum sanctuary at Fred Andrews' house. and a cynical ploy to win the south side vote, I might say. Oh, for sure. But also, I didn't feel like they were being very surreptitious in their trek to the north side. A huge gaggle of people running from the law.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Just roam in their streets wearing their skins. You've got to shed the skin if you're trying to run away from the cops. How do they not find them? They're running the streets in a gaggle. But also, I do need to have a quick pause and just say, I feel bad for whatever makeup artist was the head of this episode. Because what happened to Jughead's face? Every scene he was in, his face looked different. He had bandages on different parts.
Starting point is 00:15:44 He had like a big slice on one side of his face that just moved to the other side of his face. That was immediately gone. and sometimes they would show him and it looked like he had nothing on his face and then other times it would just be completely black and blue it's like they came from the whole like Penelope Blossom school of getting better and it just
Starting point is 00:16:03 what happened? He just got the shit kicked out of him two days ago. Yeah and it was a horror like such a bad beating that his father had to drag him limply out of the woods. Yeah and Miss Peabody said that he wasn't breathing when they were done with him, which also not true. Bitch, you didn't check.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And that's it. You can't pretend like that boy was dead. And then all of a sudden like, oh, I don't know what happened. He came back to life. And then two days later, he's in a hotel room banging his 16-year-old girlfriend. And so next plot point, Betty, Betty here in Riverdale going and visiting her father in the Riverdale Police Department's Hannibal Lecter basement. Hannibal Lecter? I was just like, is he Hannibal Lecter?
Starting point is 00:16:55 What just happened? They definitely pulled that from Silence of the Lambs with the weird like air holes in it too. Like what? What? Why does Riverdale, why is this town of what, like 30,000 people have a Hannibal Lecter basement cell? Also, if you have a Hannibal Lecter basement cell, don't build another prison.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You've got enough prison. It's fine. You're taking care of everything. You're doing okay, dude. Yep, the prison is, I guess, all in the background now. But, I mean, I guess the prison is back on now that Hermione, because Hermione won the election. She got elected.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But that bitch is going to turn against Hiram. Of course, she is definitely going to turn against him, and I can't wait to watch her fucking comeuppets. Oh, yeah, because she found out that Hiram hired Tallboy to take a shot at her during the debate. He is not good to his wife. And I think all of those, like the threats he gave to Veronica when she was saying like, I want it, which also very selfish that she's not doing good for the society, that she basically wanted Pop's chocolate shop back so she could have it as her hangout. So she threatens to sue her father to get the million dollars that she essentially stole from a family. And then so she gets the million dollars, buys the white worm, then asks her father ever and,
Starting point is 00:18:20 exchange to be in control of the chocolate shop instead, even though that gives her father the upper hand of the south side. And when he's just openly like, then you get no more money, then essentially you are cut off. She's like, I don't want your blood money. Bitch, how are you going to live? How are you going to live your life without that blood money? She's going to live off pops. She's going to live off of the profits of pops. And this high school girl is going to learn all of the wonderful ends and of running a business and also running a speakeasy out of the basement? Speakiesie out of the basement. How is she going to get a liquor license?
Starting point is 00:19:00 I know. How are you going to do these things? How is a 16-year-old able to buy a bar? I don't know. I don't understand. And also, yes, it used to be a speakeasy, but wasn't it essentially a speakeasy with, like, Papa Boone and they had their, like, mob hangout in there at night?
Starting point is 00:19:18 So there's also Another speakeasy underneath, Pops? I guess. I guess. And also where she, she already spent million dollars. Where is she going to get the money to renovate that To turn it into a nice speakeasy? I mean, there's no way the white worm was a million dollars, though.
Starting point is 00:19:38 No, no, no, no, no, no. And that's been the basement of a diner for 60 years. I worked in a very clean pie shop for years. You know what the basement was? A grease trap den of disgusting rats and cockroaches that live in the basement because that's what happens. That's how it goes. Yeah, that's what basements are. The basement of a restaurant is disgusting always.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Especially if you just have a griddle that you're making burgers on, where do you think that grease goes? So I can't remember. why did the serpents have the mid-afternoon keg party again? They had their mid-afternoon keg party. I think it's just because they were hiding out, right? Well, they were celebrating something. I can't remember what they were celebrating. I guess getting asylum.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But also, that mid-afternoon keg party looked like so much fun. It did. I think, or was it because it was it asylum or was it because they didn't have to leave the high school? It was because they didn't have to leave the high school. I think that's what it was. They were so excited and so all the high school. schoolers got to get drunk in the middle of the day again instead of going to class.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Good on him. And that's when FP comes up and says he's retiring. For real this time. So, but also, again, we, I'm forward thinking, I am just hoping so much that the rumors are true that it's going to be Neff Campbell that is Jughead's mother because he's threatening to go to Toledo, right? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Oh, yeah, I forgot. I forgot. Yep, we're getting out of here, Jug, we're going to Toledo. We're going to Toledo, baby. Pack light. We're taking the bikes. Which I would definitely watch that whole side show of them on their bikes going to Toledo, definitely. But there's no way that they're not going to incorporate Jughead's mother and what's her name? Like Snick Snick Snick?
Starting point is 00:21:34 Jelly Bean. Jelly Bean. Jelly Bean, which is Jughead's younger sister. That's definitely going to be in the next season. It has to be. Has to be. So he gives up. He's not going to be.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He's not the serpent king anymore. No. He gives it to his 16-year-old son instead, which fuck all the people that have been there for a really long time. And I know a lot of them fled. However, there's got to be somebody that has a bigger tenure than the 16-year-old Jughead who took a beating. And is also allowed to buy, like, cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:22:06 You know, something. But I guess if they're opening up a speakeasy, there's nothing that they can't do. What? My biggest question, was, was that he brought him up on stage, gave him the red serpent jacket. And I was just like, fuck yeah. I was like, why has an FP been wearing a red serpent jacket?
Starting point is 00:22:25 Is that what the serpent king wears? And then he gives it to Cheryl Blossom. Yes. Why? What? I was, I was so, like, I had to pause it and rewatch it because I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Huh? Yeah, because I was watching it, and I noticed him, hand him the red serpent jacket.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I was like, well, first of all, Joghead's going to look weird in that. And second of all, that jacket looks tiny. Like, that's a woman's jacket. Yeah. So Cheryl is a serpent now. Does Cheryl get the special red one because she's rich? Or because she's a blossom and like, that's her thing? Did she make that herself?
Starting point is 00:23:09 Did she give them a red leather jacket that she already had and have them sew the serpent, patch on it and who's making all these serpent patches? I don't know and also it's like, does it have something to do with the fact that now she is like legally separated from her mother? But I don't know if the serpents have ceremony for a child who is legally immense, who is no longer guardian,
Starting point is 00:23:33 beholden to her mother and now lives with her grandmother. And then also just happens to be fucking someone in the serpents. I, um, It's just, why didn't she have to use a serpent dance? I don't understand. Where is, where are the rules anymore, serpents? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:23:54 So now she's just an honorary member, I guess. Although, sidebar, can I please buy that jacket, please? It's a great jacket. I want it. I want to have it. You look great that jacket. Wouldn't I look great that jacket? It's hard to pull off red leather.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I do have a red leather jacket and I feel like a two, if I just sew one of the patches onto it. Yeah. I feel like I need to earn it, and I think that I need to do some sort of serpent dance to get it. Should I just do that? Should I just record it and post it and be like, okay, I did it? Just find the prop master for Riverdale and do a serpent dance for him.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Oh, my God, I'll fucking do it. I'll fucking do it. So now Cheryl is in it. I was so upset because when the serpents showed up to do the whole, like, stand in or whatever to get the Southside servants to not be kicked out of the high school when she and T.T.T. held hands. I was just like, kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Why didn't they kiss? Kiss. Why didn't they kiss? Every time they're in a frame together. That's the only thought. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. I want to watch it. I want to watch it. Very upsetting. Although I do follow all of
Starting point is 00:25:06 them on Instagram and I love that they are all actual friends in real life as well. And she and T. T. very good friends and there's constantly pictures of the two of them and I'm just like, please kiss unreal I have to. Is that creepy? Is that creepy thing to ask? So Archie, so Hermione wins and Archie, Archie comes around in this episode. I actually like Archie in this episode. Really? I actually do.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I have, because I, well, okay, first of all, he's still dumb. Because I did notice this episode, one of the things that Archie says, says the most is he loves saying that other people are right? Yeah. He looks like, Veronica's right, Betty. Betty, I think Mr. I think Mr. Lodge is right here. My dad's right.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Archie loves. You know, he's putting it off. But also, I don't know how he was right in identity. Just also, when he had to go in and identify Hal as the Black Hood, how dark was that room that he had to identify him in? I was like, how does he even see the, The eyes in the mask, he can't identify him. He's far away, and it's very dark.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And yeah, that's the sort of thing that needs to be extremely well-lit, identifying someone as a serial killer. Yeah, it's supposed to be stark, you know? You got to be able to see it. So Archie, I did like, when Archie went and talked to Mr. Lodge, I liked that a lot. You know, because he goes in, and he immediately throws it in Hiram's face that he used to sneak in to fuck his daughter. Which is awesome. However, I thought it was really dumb that he went into his house and told him exactly what he was going to do. It's like, play it a little cool, dude.
Starting point is 00:26:50 You don't tell a person your plan because then what happens happens and come up and... But I like how stupid Archie is. He's so stupid with the knife and he puts the knife in the desk. He's got to go bury his bones. He's got to make his bones with high lodge. And make my bones Bove with you Hiram, I tell you
Starting point is 00:27:17 What I do when I figure out How to do it, I'm gonna do it Boss, and you go see Boss, and then you get Fucked, dude, why did you do that? It was dumb. It was so dumb. And then Hiram Lodge Gathers up his supervillain
Starting point is 00:27:33 team at the White Worm He's got Cheryl's mother, I always forget her name. Penelope Blossom, yeah. Got Penelope Blossom running a brothel. You promised me a brothel. Yes, I'm sorry, Madam Blossom, which he refers to as, which perfect, perfect.
Starting point is 00:27:54 The goolies are the muscle. Yep. Claudius is taking care of the drugs. Yep. And Penny is. And you got the sheriff. And then you've got the sheriff who's taken care of all that stuff. And Penny is logistics.
Starting point is 00:28:07 She is a She's gonna get hers She's a wild card And you can't trust that bitch No you can't No no no she switches sides as fast as she can So they're going to probably turn the white worm Into a brothel's what it seems like
Starting point is 00:28:23 Seems like it Or some sort of weird headquarters For his overall takeover of Riverdale And I feel like It's just too much There's no way there's no way that they're all going to be able to work together. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:28:43 In theory, yes, you're going to use all these things and run the drugs through the town, and that sounds nice overall. You're not even really talking about the prison anymore, but I know that the prison's going to come back, which something I just thought of, though, is remember, so we also have Polly Cooper back on the scene. I was going to bring Polly Cooper up, definitely, yes. And she's looking, I think that Betty's so we're in,
Starting point is 00:29:07 about having the evil inside of her, I think Polly is the one that's got the evil inside of her. Yeah, I think, well, I think Polly, is she trying to get Alice into a cult? Because that's what it sounds like. Yes, there's something, like, whatever mastermind, which makes me very excited for the next season. So it's like, okay, we have a serial killer this season.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It sounds like next season is going to be cult-related. Which is really fun. Fucking awesome. Are you? kidding me? Yes, please. And like, she just seems so evil and Alice Cooper is beside herself with everything. She's starting to lose her mind. And I think Polly's going to be a much bigger part of this next season and it's going to be bad. Oh yeah, Polly's into it. And you know, I very much appreciated the Alice Cooper without the makeup. I thought that was really nice touch and she still looked hot. She's still, I, that's exactly what I thought of when she was like in her robe and in her PJs. and she's all distraught. And I was just like, I fucking wish I looked that good now.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And she is much older than I am. But also, sidebar, follow her on Instagram. Her children are gorgeous. Have you seen her kids? I have not. They're probably, I think they might be, I think, I'm fairly sure they're twins, and it might be like 16 or 17,
Starting point is 00:30:31 and I just, they love their mother so much, and she seems like such a cool mom, and they're fucking, hot as shit. I'm not allowed to say that because they're too young. But they are attractive and I hope that their future is bright. And of course the whole episode ends up. Archie wins the election.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Fred loses, Archie wins. And because he went and threatened Hiram Lodge and told him all of his plans, Hiram Lodge sets up Archie to take the fall for the murder that Andre committed out at the lakehouse. But I love that because it's like, how is he even possibly going to make that stick? I know. You can't make that sick.
Starting point is 00:31:16 There is no proof. He did not do it. There are people that, but at the same time, Andre did it. Andre is dead, so I understand that. So he could blame him for that.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And everyone in the town saw him like, get up in this dude's face because he was going after Veronica. But there's also his three cohorts that were there when they took over, like when that got, what's his name, like Cassidy? Cassie Bullock. When he, when like he and his friends came in to rob the house,
Starting point is 00:31:48 technically it would probably just be even self-defense more than anything. Yeah, but then he chased him down and killed him in the woods. But he didn't do it. Andre did it. That is true. That is true. But he still chased him down. Can't do self-defense if it happens in the woods.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But on the other hand, what happened to the body? Right. Yeah. There's no way this is going to be able to stick. I know he's got the sheriff in his pocket, but they've got Mayor McCoy who just at the drop of a hat will do anything for these teenagers apparently. Yeah, and I don't think, and that's the other thing too,
Starting point is 00:32:22 is that Shadow Lake is not in Riverdale's jurisdiction. Yeah, it's going to fall through. There's no way that it, like, I felt like of all the things to end on a moment, that was kind of lackluster for me. It was. I was a little disappointed. pointed in that one. I was a little
Starting point is 00:32:39 that's not really much of a cliffhanger. I really was hoping to watch like like walk in on FP and Alice banging just because I've been begging for it this entire fucking season. It's going to happen especially now that well I don't know if
Starting point is 00:32:54 if Jughead's mom's coming back then maybe not but then maybe we're going to be introduced to a love triangle here. I bet FP and Alice start banging and then that's when Jughead's mom shows back up. That or Alice Cooper gets caught up in a cult and FP has to go and save her. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Or Alice and Fred start banging. Fred is such a fucking fuddy, man. Yeah, that is true, but I love Fred. Fred's such a good dad. I know. I know he's a good dad. He's a good dad. But at the same time, you know, FP is going to be the new bar manager of a speakeasy underneath.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So he might not have the time to save Alice Cooper from the impending cult. Who knows? Yep. Taking orders from a 16-year-old. Oh, man, but all I know is that I am just so jealous of Betty being the serpent queen. If someone could just please refer to me as their serpent queen, please. I just want to be a serpent queen. Is that too much to ask?
Starting point is 00:34:03 It's very little to ask. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. on myself. I'm very excited. I'm very excited about next season. I don't know what to do with myself. It's going to be so much time until it comes back. Yeah. I think it'll be less time because network shows come back sooner than like HBO shows or anything like that. I imagine it'll probably be back in the fall. Yeah, I would imagine. I'm very excited about it and I hope that
Starting point is 00:34:30 everyone feels good about the rest of this season. And all I know is that I'm about to start watching 90210. So you guys are going to have a lot more to listen to about what I feel about teenagers having sex with each other. Sounds beautiful. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I love you guys. Good luck. Good luck. Dealing with your lives without Riverdale. We will prevail. Everything will be fine. All I know is that, man, Jughead looks so. good holding that baby, it made my uterus quake.
Starting point is 00:35:11 When he was holding that baby, I was just like, I'm going to have children. We're having children together. That's going to be great. Well, tune in next season for Riverdale Roundup to see if Jackie made that wish come true. Love you guys. We'll talk to you next season. Goodbye.

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