Page 7 - Riverdale Roundup Vol. 18: Prison's a Bummer

Episode Date: October 24, 2018

Jackie, Molly & Marcus recap season 3 episode 2 "Chapter Thirty-Seven: Fortune and Men's Eyes" and talk dubious doctors, mad dogs and brosephs galore. Want even more Page 7, bros? Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/page7podcast Intro song by Green Dreams greendreams.bandcamp.com/ Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to Riverdale Roundup. It was quite a week. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. My name is Molly Nuffalo. I'm Marcus Parks. Quite a week. Quite a week. Quite a week.

Quite a week. It was, so I know that I, I think I say this every week, but I wait until right before we record this to do, to watch Riverdale. because I watch it alone and because I have no one to talk to about it because if I didn't I would lose my mind to the point that I'm calling up my partner just being like, you don't even know, man, where this show is going, dude.

He's like, don't tell me, don't tell me. I'm in the middle of season two. I was like, you gotta catch up. Yeah, he's got to catch up. Because I got things to say. Yeah. This relationship depends on him catching up so you can talk about it.

I'm almost like get to a point where I can't talk to you. You have eight more hours of Riverdale or watch. Stop working and get your ass in gear. Yeah, because he really, he needs to know all about the Leopold and Loeb detention center before he can speak to you again.

Good Lord, which we didn't make even, we didn't even make mention of the name Leopold and Loeb, uh, detention center because you know what, it just makes sense. At this point, it's like, of course, they're trying to fit in so many references. I, I have to say, uh, I, this may have been the first,

Riverdale where I was like I don't want to use the word offended but I think appalled I think I'll use the word appalled appalled I was appalled at the prison riot scene we don't I don't mean to jump right in but I was appalled upon come on come on the cheerleaders are like oh my god a prison riot

it's just that this shit really happens and I was like I don't think I'm enjoying this Riverdale don't do this to me and then the next scene It was totally fine. Oh, murder still happens as well, and we still love that in Riverdale. It's true. It's true. That was the first time where I was like, I am uncomfortable.

Wait, were you uncomfortable because they allowed the 16-year girls to dance for them? Or were you uncomfortable with the fact that they shut down the football game? You know, I actually kind of dug the idea of the 16-year-old girls dancing just outside the fence for the prisoners. I thought that was kind of fun. Oh, you liked how they were, like, mock fucking the chain link fence? I thought that that was, it was a strange choice on Riverdale's part. And I was with it. I was like, all right, yeah, totally.

There would definitely just be an open field where people can just come and show their sexy bodies. Can come. But also, what would happen? I'm sorry, if any of those inmates got out of that chain link fence, what do you think would happen? Ladies, cover you so. What are you doing out there? Yeah, I mean, from the people I know who have worked in prisons, it's like many of them have quite strict regulations about making sure all your skin is covered before you go in.

Oh, yes, indeed. They look more like Veronica did when she was, what was her? Monica Poche or something. Monica Posh. From the Innocence Project. Topical. Topical, yes. And actually exists.

It sure does. I was like, okay, you're going to use a real organization. Oh, yeah. When they brought in the, it's like, have you? Have you heard of The Innocence Project? I was like, Barry Shack? Yeah, how? Okay.

Yeah, no, that was all I was down with. It was just the specific. I had to stop, like, for example, I stopped watching The Handmaid's Tale during the scene of the police violence, the really scary police violence scene. I just have a thing with police violence. And so the images of the, like, going from, like, I was, like, so into it, like the, you know, the jailhouse rock also, I think, a poor choice. But I was like, all right.

We're dancing to the jailhouse rock. I was enjoying myself. I was like, we're doing it. I love it when they sing. And then there was just like horrifying images of police beating prisoners. And it kind of upset me. But then we never spoke about it again for the rest of the episode, even though there was a prison riot.

When you're talking about, of course we spoke about it again. That's how Mad Dog died. That is how Mad Dog died. Slash, did he? The second that they introduced Mad Dogg, I was like, hello, nurse. Yes. Thank you, Mad Dog. Okay.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Especially as he's like listening to like classical music and he's like, uh, as he's working out. I was on board. Now Mad Dog is immediately dead.

Do you think he's really dead? No. No. Absolutely not. I don't know where Mad Dog is. I bet Mad Dog's going to come back in like adult prison. He's part of the fight club and he was an insist. He was the pawn of the commissioner, right?

And then the commissioner was like, Archie, you're my new mad dog. And then he was like, at the end, he was like, welcome to my fight club. And so Mad Dog was just a, I think Mad Dog was a double agent. I don't even know if Mad Dog was really a prisoner. Interesting. But yeah, Archie did get tapped by the warden.

Well, I guess I don't know what tapped means. Is this a politic thing? He tapped him. He reached down and went, tap, tap, tap. Excuse me. Does that mean he's like under protection, though? I think that the warden wants to use Archie to do his bidding. And you know Archie's going to do it because Archie is such a fucking idiot.

I don't know. Archie, he's, he's, he's, he's, learned his lesson about taking orders from powerful men. Has he? Has he? Has he learned any lessons? I wanted to punch Archie in the face when he's like, come on, guys.

Why do we get together to play a good old-fashioned American favorite football? And the winner gets my shoes. I was like, why? I was like, beat the fucking shit out of him. At that point, someone should him. Just to shut him up. Yes, he definitely should have been just. right that in there.

I don't understand. Why didn't they shave him when they took his shoes? It was just all these things where it was just like, there's no way that Archie would last even that long in juvie. Absolutely. Just saying. And also, when did Archie start calling everyone bro? Bro?

Yeah, bro. I think it's because, you know, he's a, he's a criminal now. Yeah, right. I think that's his code switching to try to survive. I think he actually did call. someone brosiff once. Oh, I think he called Mad Dog Brose. Oh, don't call Mad Dog Brosef.

Don't call anyone brosive. Yeah, Mad Dog just seems so... Mad Dog was like, I'm above all this. But it's because he's a double agent. Ah, yeah, but what did he go yet? And he's apparently going to prison for 20 years or something else. What is he going to prison for? Yeah, what is he in for?

But then why didn't they let him... Why couldn't he see his family anymore? And his girl. I wanted him to see his girl and I was like, I'll be a family. Mad Dog! But also, can we say, I think that all the scenes with Joaquin in the past were too dark, because his wolf eyes? Good Christ.

You liking Joaquin? Wow. Maybe I'm just lonely. I don't know, man. I was feeling it. I'm glad Joaquin is back. It's interesting. Yeah, we mentioned Joaquin last week because we were like,

what's his name? The assistant director of Carrie the music. Where did he go? You guys totally did call that. One of the fun things about watching Riverdale is that I just say, Markinson Jackie, totally called this the entire time, whatever you guys were right. And you guys were totally right about Joaquin coming back, and that Joaquin was like, rightly called Archie, you know, a total non-serposer.

Well, I mean, there's no reason why Archie should get shived, though. Well, no, nobody should get shivv. But if you were a real serpent and you would have been like out there, you know, living a hard life. You're saying Archie should have shived the googly? I'm no, but I'm just saying this. I think he should have. If Archie comes in, you saw Archie, a little pretty boy pampered Archie out in the regular world. Well, you're living your hard serpent lifestyle because you're poor and you're like been boxed out of like the legal economy by Hiram Lodge.

Then Archie comes in and he's like, oh, my best friend's dad gave me a. So now I'm a serpent too. Joaquin is like, get the fuck out of here. You're not a serpent. You're right. But that's no reason to throw him to the goolies. That's true.

There should be some solidarity against the goolies, but not before roundly, at least laughing at Archie. You laugh at him. Get the fuck out of here, Archie. You laugh at. You definitely laugh at him a little bit,

but just don't thrust attempted murder on the guy. Yeah. That's true. The goleys are bad. And also he didn't kill Mad Dog. And don't you say those things. That's just,

That was just a little bunch. Where does his little record player go, how do you, I just, I want Mad Dog to come back. But we all know he's going to come back and I'm excited about it. But also. Because if he doesn't come back, then I am legit horrified by the idea that Riverdale has a plot point where a kid was killed by prison guards. That's terrifying. I mean, is it any more terrifying than Dilton Doily being killed by the gargol king? Yeah.

Or Madge? Was her name? Midge. Madge last year? Midge, yeah. Midge was killed by the serial killer. A lot of people have been murdered. Definitely lots of terrifying things happen. It's particular, state violence scares me in a different way than random serial killers do.

But, I mean, the Gargoyle King has me both scared and extremely confused. So I don't know which emotion is like triumphing there. Well, what I am loving about the Gargill King plot line is just how cavalierly everyone is treating Dilton Doyley's death. Yeah, he totally died. No, because... A child died. A child. Nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit about it.

It's like, yeah, Dilton Doyley's dead. Oh. It's not even a story in town. The death of a child, not even a story in town. Nobody's talking about it other than Jughead and Betty. Well, it's coming out because the town didn't know about it. But I just have that, because remember, okay, well, we can't jump all the way to the very, very end just yet. No, not yet.

As far as what happens. But the town's going to find out. Jump to the end. Jump. Sorry. The very last scene. Very last seat. But we can't get all the way there just yet. But yeah, Dilton Doiley, you know, found dead.

And Jughead doesn't care about it. Betty doesn't care about it. Fucking, what's her name? Ethel. Ethel doesn't care about it. Even the little boy, Ben, doesn't care about it. And the little boy that's in the bunker doesn't care about it. No one cares about Dilton Doyley.

Yeah. Sheriff Meneta doesn't care either. None of them care. I guess that's the real thing is that the sheriff does not care at all. He don't care. He don't care. Does not care. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Okay, so there's one scene I really want to talk about, read the Gargoyle King plot line, and I don't want to jump ahead too much, but I feel like we have to talk about the scene where all the grownups were sitting around talking about what happened when they were in high school. That's the very end. I mean, that's the very end of the episode. I went to myself. Yeah, so they got like an it thing going on now.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, baby. be. This is quite a mash-em-ups of genres that they are doing this season. And I am here also, we're not even making mention of, what is it called, griffins and gargoyles? Good, griffins. Yeah, gargoles and griffons, I think, yeah. The role player game that they are playing where Ethel is just forcing this child to be her boyfriend, obvious. I'm sorry, Princess Ethelene. Or is Ethel under the command of that shady girl who stands in the corner who's from the farm?

Evelyn. Evelyn. Excuse me. Evelyn. Evelyn. Evelyn. Evelyn Ever never. Yeah.

Evelyn Edgar Never. Edgar Ever never. Edgar Ever never. Uh-huh. Edgar Ever never. Edgar never. And who definitely caused Ethel to have what somehow managed to be an even worse seizure than Betty. Her little weird hands

A little arm thing That's what we call a horror movie seizure Like that's like Make it look as creepy as possible Stick your arm up Make it look all weird Yeah, that's scary Whereas Betty's seizure was more of a Jesse Spano

I'm so excited-esque seizure Oh yes Oh yes Now Betty's getting into She's getting in a lot of trouble Because we got a new character this week We got Evelyn Evernaver Evelyn, Evelyn, ever-never.

Evil and ever, never. Who's not there, they have the dog. Is it evil and never? Oh, she's always bad. So the central question of this episode, aside from everything that happened at the prison, is what is the connection, right? This is the question that Betty and Jughead,

only they can answer. What is the connection between the, Gargoyle King and the Griffons and Gandalf's game that all these kids are playing. What's the connection between them and Evelyn and Edgar Ever Never and the farm? Well, we do know that there's a three-way connection here because we've got, yeah, because we got the Gargoyle King

that's connected to Betty and Edgar Ever-Nover because of the seizure. The seizure connects the. those two. And the other thing that connects the gargle king over to the adults is the blue lips. And they all were very upset about the blue lips. Yeah. And you saw Alice was involved with the blue lips. She was in the room. So there are a few connections going on here. Uh-huh. So essentially, do you think that this is like a Jumanji where you play the game and you release the demon? But Isn't that the plot of Stranger Things?

Like, that's what I was watching this. Kind of. I'm pretty sure that we had said last week, this is kind of true detective. And then I was like, this one, I was like, I think that we just entered Stranger Things. I think they just kind of up-cycle the Stranger Things plot. Strangeing things, the little bit of it. Because, you know, they had the it reference that you'll fly to. You'll float to, you'll fly to.

You know, it's like, they're definitely doing a bit of cannibalizing in this scene. Quite a bit of cannibalizing, actually. It's more of a pastiche. But I kind of like how they're knitting it all together. I love it. Okay, okay, okay. All right, all these things are great separate. But what if we put them all in one show?

And now I think it's kind of like they're topping themselves of like, how many things can we get into this show? Yeah, because they've got a prison movie. They've got the occult. They've got, you know, like a cult. And then in the middle of all those, like, But what about the student body president? That's still there.

And then you have like the cheerleading scene. And you got all this stuff. We're just like, what? Yeah. I love. I think it's brilliant. Yeah. I think it's brilliant.

And then thrown in a locker room, like a girl's locker room scene. Yeah, there were there brawes for no reason. Yeah. And then it's just like how slowly did Josie have to change back there? Yeah. It took her a while to put a shirt on. Just hanging out and bras in the locker room, which is definitely not.

what we did in my high school. We changed as quickly as possible. We would, you know, put on a shirt over the other shirt and then take off the other shirt and pull it out under the neck so that people wouldn't scrutinize our bodies. Well, Molly, you didn't go to the hottest high school in the world. That's true. And I do love how no matter what else is happening. Like literally Archie is in prison and Veronica and Cheryl are just still nasty bitches to each other.

I just love it. But they still, they come together. They keep coming back together. That's my favorite part. No matter how much they have come together, they're always shitty to each other. No matter how shitty they are to each other, they always come together. They have to. Oh, and Cheryl's still got a great lines.

You can't discriminate against someone because they're better looking than you. That was my favorite line of a lot of stuff. Oh, my God. That was. Oh, wait, I wrote down the other line. What did Ronnie say? Another one of Ronnie's, was it Ronnie's line of, if ever they were a group of guys who needed a pep rally. Oh God. That's so, that's so, what are you talking about? Yeah, you mean a bunch of prisoners

that want to go, hauga, hao-oh-oh-go, and a bunch of hot girls. I would also do that to a bunch of hot girls if I was that age. Yeah, like, right? Yeah, the hottest girls, like, the six hottest girls I'd ever seen in my entire life and I hadn't seen even a girl in a couple of years. Yeah, I'm going to go crazy you like fucking the fence too. Ronnie's like, you know what? Prison seems like kind of a bummer. I'll bet I could cheer them up. Dance to do the jailhouse run.

But also, again, it's like whatever year that the juvie is supposed to be in, it felt like I was watching the green mile. You know, or at the beginning of it. I was just like, what year is this? And then also that they did jailhouse rock. It's like, I don't understand what's happening in the whole prison, like aspect of this,

but it feels like there's two different directors doing each side of it. You know what I mean? Definitely. Yeah. No, prisons don't have bars anymore. It's just big doors. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it is, there's like. There's no style or like panache to a prison. No. Right. Right. And I was also, I was like going down a hole about like there's like a lot of changing

laws in the country right now about like what ages of incarcerated people can be housed together. And I was like, I'm not going to think about this too hard. But. Because we're at the Leopold and Loeb Juvenile Center for 25-year-olds. I mean, I'm just saying, Mad Dog, I don't think that Mad Dog is under 18, you know, and that dude is definitely a young adult. That guy has been working out for 20 years straight. He does not stop working out for 20 years. But, you know, I got to say, I think I do like the Gargoyle King movie a little bit better than the prison movie.

But the prison movie, as we predicted, might be over by next week because that, the, you know, Veronica's great disguise. Yeah. And her apparently also kind of acting as the attorney. I swear to God, if Barry Sheck makes a guest appearance next week, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. But I guess it'd be better than like, you know, it's like, we got the guy from watch what happens.

Like, here's high on Barry Sheck from Innocence Project. They should totally tell. They can get them. Riverdale can do anything it puts its mind to. including having the creepiest coroner of all time. Dr. Curdle Jr.? No, Dr. Curdle Jr. The son.

The son who, when they're like, do you mind if we record this totally illegal thing you're letting us do? He's like, I don't mind at all. Yeah. Come on in. Of course, take pictures of this body you shouldn't be looking at. You 16-year-olds, you juniors and high,

you kids who have just started your junior year and I school, take all the photos you want. Documented. You're evil. That was ridiculous. But also it's like not all coroners look like that, Riverdale. Come on. Definitely not named Dr. Curdle Jr.

Please come into my layer. I mean more. What do you do it? Why do you think it has to be, do you think that the actor who played Mr. You think there's an issue with Mr. Colonel the actor? Or do you think that there's a plot reason why they have the child? I think that they just couldn't get that actor again. And they were like, fuck it.

Let's make it a junior. Yeah, or he died or something. Yeah, and they just couldn't resist. And maybe, I don't know, they might have Dr. Curdle coming in as like a character. Yeah. And they needed someone like super creepy for it and someone young. Uh-huh.

Now, all right, not to, I feel like I'm zigzagging, but there's a lot. It's a zigzaggy type episode. It's all over the place this episode. So they find the bunker, right? Ethel's supposed to meet him at the bunker. Ethel does not meet them at the bunker because she is the Gargoyle king? Not sure. But what I found interesting, so they drank the fresh aid.

Fresh aid. Fresh aid. Fresh aid, sign night. Nice little reference, Riverdale. Got to give it to you. We get it. I get it. I get it.

Yeah, I get it. Get it. But, so they took it. So, essentially, let's say, let's put this in the terms of I'm also playing an RPG, right? now and maybe this is going to happen to me. So what they send you, so essentially what their goal was, was to drink the cyanide and if they died, that meant that the gargoyle king loved them? Yeah, I got to say the gargoyle plot line, the gargoyle king specifically is, I don't

understand what is going on. I understand the dark woods and Betty and Jughead walking through the woods and and Jughead being like, Betty, you're so stressed out. You should have told me about your seizure, which is another fun plotline. And she's like, Jughead, it's okay. I'll be less stressed out if we hunt this gargoyle king. But I don't understand what the gargoyle king actually is or does or what the cyanide has to do with it. I don't think we've been giving enough information just yet.

I'm being patient on the gargoyle king. I figured they've only given us a couple of crumbs. We're not supposed to know what's going on just yet. Okay. So I'm reserving judgment on the gargoyle king right now. But I do think it does have something to do with Evelyn. I mean, it definitely does. So it has to do with the cult.

So, again, which we called this last week, of course, Alice Cooper is just denying that anything happened in front of the fire as well. But of course, no one's going to make mention of the fact that she threw out her entire wardrobe and is now only wearing long, flowy dresses. Fine. But, so, do you know, definitely? But like, what do you think is going to happen with this cult thing? So are there like classic?

Like, so we have not met Edgar Ever Never yet. No. Which can you imagine when you got, though? If I got a script that I was like, really? Edgar Ever Ever Never? I got to say Edgar Ever Ever Ever Never over fucking over again. Did we know that the twins were named Juniper and Dagwood? I don't know if we did.

Maybe they said that once. Dagwood sounded familiar. But I was, again, I was like, what kind of crossover hell are we in? I mean, at least they're not blondey in Dagwood, but Dagwood is a real specific name. Yeah, Juniper as well. Yeah. I kind of like their names, though. I think it's kind of cute.

But they definitely flew, but I guess they're going to say it has something to do with the seizures. What I don't understand, too, is that why are none of the doctors being like, hey, seizures aren't infectious, which is an actual line because seizures are not infectious. So how long is it going to take for something? morning in this town to be like, hey, excuse me, I think something's going on over here in Mitterdale. All these kids are having seizures. It just happens, you know, hormones.

I guess you can slap a hormones on it. Ethel had her seizure at school. Yeah, she did. And it was a pretty bad one, too. Yeah, there was no incident report about that. Don't worry. I mean, I think that it's evil in that's making the seizures happen because she was the one that was over to the side, staring.

matter as she's having a seizure. She was at the bonfire, so she also made Betty have the seizure. And then you cut over to, oh, that's where I was going with that question, though. So why did Benjamin Button, also his name was Benjamin Button, kill himself.

Yes. Because he wanted to be with Dilton. With the Gargoyle King? No, with Dilton Doily. Isn't that what he said? We were right before he jumped out. It's like, I'm going to go be with Dilton now. Yes, but then isn't Dilton with the Gargoyle King because that's why he took the fresh aid?

Was Ben, did Benjamin Bunn say something like I wasn't supposed to survive? I was supposed to go with Dilton and so he needed to like finish the job. Bad thing, maybe that was it? Yeah. Because and who carved the runes? Betty, I was researching runic symbols earlier. I didn't see that one. That one's not a runic symbol.

Okay, Betty. I forgot. I don't recognize it. That one's weird. I'm fully familiar with the entire runic characters. And I can definitively say that that is not a runic character. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess he was supposed to go with the Gargoy King,

but he was, yeah, finishing the job. And now, and remember, you said, you'll all fly too who flew de babies. Uh-huh. De Babies. Ah, okay. But, okay, but so what does the farm people have to do with the teens playing their game? Because the teens playing their game were in Stranger Things land.

And then the farm people were in True Detective land, I guess, like controlling. I think it's more Jonestown. Jones Town, also Jonestown. Jones Town, True Detective, I mean, the flavor that are Fiat. Fresh Aid, please. Excuse me. Freshade. The fresh aid, yeah, the, the fresh aid, yeah, that's the Jones Town vibe, definitely, but that's a gargol king thing.

Uh-huh. That's not a farm thing just yet. But that, that Evelyn is, is, is always there, right? She was there for Betty and she was there for, uh, for Ethel. Ethel. So why was, and she was, Ethel was about to talk, right? Ethel was like, oh, I don't know if I should tell you guys about our secret game. And then Evelyn was like, and then she had a seizure.

So Evelyn was trying to stop her from saying something. That is true. And, of course, she is the daughter of Edgar Ever, Never. Edgar Ever, Ever, Ever. I think that they make Princess Ethelon, which I will only refer to her as Princess Ethelon now. I think they make her seem so pathetic. And that makes me sad. I don't like that either.

I don't like how they've always made her super pathetic. There was a couple of times when she seemed to be like kind of, you know, getting, a get in a bit of an actual like three dimension to her, but she's always just kind of been like the simpering put upon girl. Yeah, I don't like that either. They're like, oh, this girl could never stand up for herself. No, but you know who was standing up for himself, which we haven't even got into.

Hubba, hubba, hubba, Kevin and Moose joining the RROTC, baby. You know what? I got to say bad on Kevin here. I think bad on Kevin. Because he's doing it just to like get weird with Moose in terms of, yeah, and just to get closer to him so he can spend more time with him. Yeah, he's being, he's being obtrusive and he's making Moose uncomfortable. Let Moose get to deal with it on his own terms, and Kevin's trying to force the issue.

And I think that's kind of unfair of Kevin, honestly. I completely agree. And I love Kevin, but I don't think that it's the right choice. I'm a big fan of Kevin as well, but I think he's pushing too hard here. Well, and also, Kevin never really seemed to give a shit about Moose the last, like, two years since they hooked up. So what's, why the sudden? Because they hooked up all summer, just like fucking. Everybody did, apparently. Apparently, everybody was just fucking all summer long.

Ethel was fucking Ben Button. No, only in the game. She's lying. She's lying everybody. But, you know, yes, but continue. Sweet P. and Josie, remember they had their summer thing going on? Yeah. And now, you know, Moose and Kevin.

Although, to be fair, Kevin, I mean, Moose kind of ghosted Kevin in public. And so I feel like Kevin feels kind of wronged by that, which is fair. And I also feel like if they just go and make the ROTC meetings, just the like gay as hell. I feel like that'll be kind of fun, you know, but yeah. Like, I was like, where is this going? Are they going to just turn, are this going to start fucking during these meetings or what? I think it's just going to, it's just going to be a whole bunch of like uncomfortableness. And yeah, but I think Kevin's encroaching into some territory that he hasn't needed to encroach on. But I think he'll learn an important lesson about forcing people to be okay with themselves.

They got to do it on their own terms. Because something is going to happen with that mean RROTC daddy. Oh, yeah. Luce's daddy is on the scene, and you know that's not going to end up well. But I think that it would be fun to watch Sheriff Keller beat the shit out of RROTC daddy. You know what? I bet that's going to happen. Yeah, I got a feeling that's definitely going to happen. Yeah.

And I will watch it. Even just the beginning, I know there wasn't a whole lot of Daddy Brigade in this episode, but when the three of them were just like, we're going to figure out, we're going to figure out how to get him out. I was just like, oh, Daddy Brigade, Johnny Brigade. I ride the horses F. P wearing his little neckerchief over there at the end. Hubba, hubba.

Also, just throwing it out there where in the street is. Tonight's episode is when the honky tonk starts. Between FP and Alice? Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, because things are going to start coming up about that summer.

And whatever they saw in high school. What did they see in high school? What happened? I totally realized what's going on here. What's going on here? I have no idea. Zero idea. Well, as far as like potline goes, because I think tonight is supposed to be the flashback episode, right?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, tonight's the flashback episode. And all of the Riverdale cast are playing their parents in the flashback episode. That's going to be great. So are we really getting? Alice and FP or is it going to be a bedian joke? Hmm. I mean, the pictures that they had both posed.

They were in bed together. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I haven't figured out anything. I am down to what, but at the same time, I would be down to watch them go back and forth between like, quote unquote, young FBI and Alice and, you know, it's like,

I'm down. I'm here to watch it, especially with, where it's like she's not even wearing her, like, sexy serpent clothes. right now, but she's a serpent underneath because a serpent never sheds it. Sam.

I just want to know what all of those adults experienced together as teens that brought them all together. All of those, the lodges were there. You got Fred, Hermione, Alice, F.P., Hiram Sierra McCoy. Oh, yeah, baby. Sheriff Keller. And Sheriff Keller.

And Penelope Blossom. What did they experience? What did they do? Well, I mean, you got to ask you, I mean, it would be the same question of, say, Riverdale, if we had like a Riverdale, like, 2042. Uh-huh. Riverdale, 242 sounds awful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then it'd be like, because you think like, oh, my God, these kids, what, caught a serial killer together?

And then there was a gang war and a riot and, oh, yeah, cult. I think these kids, they did these adults. They had the same thing back in the seven. Is it the 80s? I guess it would be? I guess it would be 80s. Yeah, 80s or 90s. I am just, I'm really excited.

I hope it's kind of like the end of actual it with the orgy in the sewer. And that's really what I'm hoping for. But maybe they can't take it straight from Stephen King. But I feel like if Stephen King watched Riverdale, he would give it the okay. You know? Yeah. I could give it the A-O-K. Why not?

Oh, my God. Imagine watching them all just torque it in a sewer. I would be on a book Because then it makes so much more sense of why Sierra McCoy and Sheriff Keller are in a relationship Because like they've known each other forever Yeah So it's just easy and like Mayor McCourt

I mean ex-Mair McCoy She's her husband is In Iraq No he's a jazz musician He's a famous jazz musician Jazz musician that's what it was He's an absent daddy jazz musician Pretty Little Liars

And Daddy is in Afghanistan Afghanistan. Afghani daddy is not Josie's father. It's different than... He's jazz daddy. Josie's father, yeah. It's like a distant jazz daddy. Yeah, and she's never going to be good enough because she's not jazzy enough.

Yeah. Oh, but she's so high and tight. She's getting them all together and they're going to go, I'm going to assume in my brain, they're going to put the gargoyle king back into his puzzle box. That's what I think their goal is. Oh, yeah. I think they released the gargoyle king back when they were kids. And then they released it again because they probably found the game inside of the bunker.

And that's why they played inside of the bunker. There must be some sort of rules of how you have to play it inside of there. So it's been hidden since the adults were kids. And so now the tomb has been reopened and they have to close it again. I think that that's brilliant, Jackie. Yeah. They're going to have to try real hard to not make this flashback episode like goofy as fuck. It's going to be goofy.

It's going to be a bit of a Riverdale musical situation. I think. I think we should be prepared. Have you seen their outfits yet? No. Oh, yeah. They're not wearing like poodle skirts or something, are they? Are they doing?

I hope that they're not like totally off in terms of the timeline, you know? They're probably dressed like they're in Greece. It's interesting. It's certainly interesting. They, um, I just, I'm on board. Guys, I know that we're all on board. Because we know what Skeet-O-Rick looked like as a teenager, right? Like, he should be wearing what he wore in the craft.

basically what he wears now as F.P. Yeah, he's been a bad daddy since he was a bad teen. Well, we'll check it out next episode. We'll see what happens if this is the flashback episode, which I believe it is. And maybe after that we'll see if Veronica's speakeasy ever gets off the ground. We'll see if we'll ever really find out who's running pops while Veronica is at school. I don't work here. Cheryl, I love this restaurant.

I feel like it's going to be such a big thing. I'm like, because she keeps saying like, no, no, no, I own it. I'm not just working here, but you're right. What about when she's pretending to be Monica Posh over at the Innocence Project? Well, there was one woman that was working there named Dolores. She should hire, wait, is Pops dead? No. No, Pops skip town.

Pops got the fuck out of this. She should just own it and still let Poppe pay Pops really well and let Pops run it. Well, I think Pops was ready to skip town. He was over it. He was over it. He was ready to get out. I think he was probably traumatized by all the murders that happened. Probably all the murders that happened in his restaurant.

Yeah, yeah. There was like three within a span of like a couple of weeks there. Yeah, I would get out of town too. Yeah, you get the cost of Papa Poutine in your place. Oh my God, you don't want it. No coming back from that. I can't wait until tonight's episode. And I can't wait to talk about it next week.

Indeed. All right. We'll be back in another episode of Riverdale Roundup next week. Chapter 38 as above. So below. Yeah, baby.