Page 7 - Riverdale Roundup Vol. 27: Archie Finds an Orphan

Episode Date: March 13, 2019

Jackie and Molly recap "Chapter Forty-Nine: Fire Walk With Me" and discuss the Joan Jett of Riverdale, Archie's boxing phase and, guys, do we dislike Veronica? Every Patreon supporter is a daddy to us. Join in on the fun! www.patreon.com/page7podcast Intro song by Green Dreams https://greendreams.bandcamp.com/music Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oh, baby. Is it a Riverdale Roundup this week? Because it's again, we're doing the ramp-ups. We're in the ramp-up episodes. I was just thinking last week you were like, we're building to something. And then after watching this episode, I was like, whatever we're building to,

we still haven't, like, gotten there yet. We haven't had that very satisfying Red Palladon episode. Although, of course, the Red Palladon did come back as a theme in this episode. Oh. And actually, a lot did happen in this episode. Number one, I love the fact this amazing fan sent me a Cheryl's red serpent jacket. And the second, I love it. I wear it almost every single day.

And now the pretty poisons are trying to steal my life. Can I just throw this out there just real fast? Can I just say that the pretty poisons are trying to steal my life? They're all curvy girls wearing dark lipstick, wearing mesh. And now with the neon pretty poisons purple jacket? Yeah, I mean, that is your aesthetic. Me needs, how do I get to be a part of the pretty poison? Who do I have to talk to, Molly?

Get me on this show. I'm made to be a pretty poison. I'll chew bubble gum in anybody's face. Well, the pretty poisons got their first essential assignment this week where they have to scare away two extremely moneyed, armed, I think, at least Hiram is, I assume armed, drug dealers. Definitely armed. And essentially mafia bosses slash gang leaders. And the group of teenage girls unarmed is now the security at Veronica's club.

At Le Bonneau? You know, the pretty poisons had it pretty easy for a little while, just learning their archery and stuff. they're kind of being put to the test with Tony having them be security. And amazingly, the gang leader drug dealers who, you know, are owed money by Veronica, walked up to the two teenage girls who said, you can't come in. And both of them said, okay. And then they just turn around. Oh, okay, they turn around.

What are those girls going to do? They have no weapons on them. They're not even that big to intimidate. I mean, like, if you watched a fight between Gladys Jones and one, of those girls, Gladys is going to win. That's the thing. Like, I'm not saying that, you know, teenage girls can't beat the shit out of somebody. They can.

But I'm not sure if these teenage girls can. And Gladys Jones is probably about five foot three. And she could absolutely, she could fucking put, like, I'd watch a fight between her and Hiram Lodge. Right? And that's a thing. She could put you in the ground. She's a badass bitch.

She murdered Penny Peabody. Although, I mean, we assume. Because that might still come back. Oh, definitely going to come back. Right? I feel like something. we never watched her kill her. And I feel like there's a reason why we didn't watch her killer, but that's a whole other

thing. But also, we have to remember that the pretty poisons are obviously gearing up for a huge gang fight. The gangs in Riverdale have gotten to a point that is ridiculous. I know. And I don't want to jump to the end of this episode. But we don't get there yet. It starts off. It starts off with the showdown. between Cheryl and Kurtz and the farm right off, right up top. And then they all just get into a physical brawl, which, man, when Weatherby pulls Jughead and Titi into his office, it's like knowing that they are the heads of their respective gangs.

But also, do you notice that the farm was not involved in being brought into that, so he's not even including the farmies as a gang, even though they're a cult gang, and that's even scarier. I don't think that they're considered a gang in the school, but they absolutely should be. But yeah, I mean, Riverdale High is being absolutely taken over by gang activity, which in Riverdale means like clubs. Like they're not really gangs. They're like clubs with different interests. Well, except for the fact that all of these gangs are bumping it up because now, you know, the gargoyles are essentially leaderless.

The ghoulies are gone. Right. The gargoyles are now being usurped by the serpents. They're absorbed into the serpents. absorb into the serpents. Into the serpents. And although that's also going to come back to bite them in the ass. But then whether be what he's just like, one more strike.

One more strike and then you're done at the school. It's like what does that mean? They're in high school. I mean. I mean, yes, if they're a part of gang affiliated and they're causing trouble. But you would know. What is he, what even happens in that situation? Do you just kick out the whole gang?

Well, you know, it's hard to tell with Riverdale because there's actually like, I feel like, in Riverdale he's like you just have like have a school with just rampant gang activity gang violence huge gang fights all the time and Wetherby's like with detention if this happens again right meanwhile you stop you know if this is like if we're talking about like a school and a low income community with kids of color those kids would be suspended and expelled and pushed out of school and arrested and all that right but in Riverdale obviously it's like I'm sick I'm sick and tired of all these gang fights happening in the hallways. I promise you, Shiv one more.

Oh, I, I, y, uh, one more murder happens in this school. I'm going to be upset about it. I'm going to take away your funding. I'm like, now whether they're stepping in. Yeah, these are like officially, like, didn't they make it so that they're both, like, literally after-school clubs? Like, I think they have, like, a budget from the after-school clubs. committee. They did that for a while with the serpents. They made it in after-school club. And meanwhile, you got people like Kurtz, which, how do we feel about Kurtz? So we've got

Kurtz who was the head of the gargoyles or was he, no, he was the head of, he was the gooies. He was in the goolies. Gargoyles, I think. No, it became the gargoyles. Yes, that's right. I get them confused now because I can't see them in the masks anymore. It's very confusing to have some of similar sounding gangs that aren't differentiated by anything other than masks. And their opposition to the serpents. Yes, and also that one of them looks way more like a group in the Warriors than the other one does. True. And, and, and, so I do know that. Kurtz is like, like, we established last week, he's, like, strung out on G and G. Like, it's not clear if he's strung out on drugs also. He does keep mentioning Jingle-Jangle.

And, and, let's, or he's making Fizzle Rocks. Sorry, Fizzle Rocks. What year am I in, Jingle-Jangle? Fizzle Rocks. Yeah, right? Jiggle Jiggle Jiggle's old news, Molly. Jesus new candy in town. But I think I'm hung up on the fact that Jughead, you know, I love him. But I'm still hung up on the fact that he got his entire gang into this precarious situation by being like, hey gang, don't deal drugs anymore. And this is especially relevant for the end of the episode, which when he saves his gang and we don't have to get there yet.

But I am outraged that Jughead tried to save his. gang by stopping him from doing the things that usually like makes a gang what a gang is which is like criminal activity outside of the legal economy because they don't have any other way to participate in the legal economy because hiram controls the economy in riverdale so they sell drugs so jughead for some reason is like we're a wholesome gang now and then his fucking community starts suffering he kicks a bunch of people out because he's drunk on power and then he fucks himself and now he's got these strung out people who are half strung out on drugs and half strung out on role playing, larping, and he can't control them.

That's why they're stealing things out of the chemistry lab. They're larping. They are through a larp, which I think that's my favorite part is that, like, they didn't steal things out of the chemistry lab. I mean, they did to make drugs, but also because it's a part of their role playing game, which is like, boys, do we not realize, I mean, let's put the cards down. for a second. But then between Jughead doing that same thing with the serpents of trying to make them clean and try to get them to listen to him, which how can you if you don't have enough to offer?

There's also Ronnie who doesn't want Daddy to be a part of the drug ring anymore, but casinos in using the prison for other ways to make illegal money, that's fine. Like, why? You can't choose which illegal activity. It's like this one is it, never, never, never. but this one's like, this one can work for me, Daddy. Veronica is 100% my least favorite character right now. She is, this episode, I mean, way more than Archie. This was an episode for Ronnie to just be like, girl, I know that Reggie is just like a hot, meaty sidepiece for you. But like, you're really letting his dumb brain get into your dumb brain.

Because you ain't, you're like especially not thinking right anymore. You know what I mean? She's not thinking right. But the thing is Veronica like has never, ever understood what she wants out of life. Like, her father sent her boyfriend to prison, Juvie, prison for two years. Two years. He framed him. He was trying to kill him.

He was following him across the country. trying to kill him. And Veronica is just like, okay, daddy, you can have your poker man come into the casino, but you better listen to me if I ask him to leave. Like, what the fuck is wrong with Veronica? You owe both of these two big rig criminals a lot of money. They own that place now. That's not yours, honey.

That's not how this works. If they want to come in and run train on everybody, in there, they can do that because you owe them so much money. You should be fucking lucky. Lucky, Ronnie, that they don't just murder your ass. I know. Like, Ronnie, I don't know why I've like so lost my patience with Ronnie so much so recently. It's been happening for a while.

Honestly, ever since the fucking murder trial of Archie, I'm like, Ronnie get her priority straight. But like she's, it's, and I'm sorry to get political, but it's privilege. She's just, she has no consequences for anything she ever does. And her, like, literally she's in like $100,000 worth of debt to two people right now, but one of them has her father. And she's just like, okay, daddy, if I do you a favor, knock five percent off my debt. Five percent off.

She's just like, she has no, like, I think Archie has no grip on reality, which is true. But Veronica has even less grip on reality because at least Arsdey, Archie, can fucking survive in the woods, you know? Yeah, Veronica. You got attacked by a bear, kind of. Archie somehow made it from Canada, like, back to Riverdale. On foot, with a dog. Like, you know, dude is at least able to, like, survive on his own, whereas, like, Veronica

is just the most spoiled girl. She has no values other than looking out for herself and what's good for Veronica. She is forsaken Archie. Oh, yeah. Threw him to the curve, dog. Over and over and over again to not cut ties with her daddy because she needs her daddy. And so she stays with him no matter what he does. Hiram is a murderer.

We know this. Yes. And Veronica is, is, is, is, is, is, sanctions it. And I just cannot abide by it anymore. Well, and especially when she's like, how do we make more money, Reggie? Oh, let's turn it into a casino. But what if we're raided? And it's like, we've made provisions.

And then it's just, close this curtain. I put this table in front of it. Yeah. No one will. If please come into there, Ronnie, you think they're not going to just like pull back a curtain? And see if this like big shutter door window obviously opens where you keep all of the chips? Yeah. That's what they do.

They're got to find it. That's not a good hide. It's not a good hide. But I'm a sucker. The things that make me happiest in Riverdale are the most stylized, like, choreographed little sequences like that. And so when they're like, we have provisions for that. And then like a special song plays and they show all their like Murphy beds for all of the poker things.

Like I was like completely into that even though it was so stupid because that's what Riverdale does best. It's just like, here's going to be. like a really stylized little sequence that makes no damn sense but it's going to look really cool. And also that goes hand in hand with like the weird whatever card maker, poker

card maker that Hiram brings into Labanui. So he's trying to get now, he's going to start making cards out of the prison and he's got this millionaire that's going to give him lots and lots of money so that the prisoners can make the cards so

everyone can make money. So he's trying to seduce him. And Gladys Jones, who is the, what is it, self-described Joan Jett of Riverdale, which, Molly, the second she said Joan Jett of Riverdale, I just went, yeah, you are, girl, yeah, you are. And I was like, oh, God, please, please, please, let Gladys Jones sing. And boy, does she. She does. Boy, howdy.

And I love that she uses that where it's like, of course, girl get on stage. You want to be on stage, get on stage. And it's just like, I'm just such soul and tangent so good. All I'll please, I'm not. And I love it because Gladys Jones is what I'm definitely going to, I'm going to keep sounding more and more like Gladys Jones in my head. Uh-huh. Because another one, I feel like if I could just meld the pretty poisons with Gladys Jones,

I would, that's what I want to be. Yes. That's what I want to look like when I'm the mom of a teenager, 100%. Can we just take just a minute just to talk about how hot Gladys Jones is? She is so sexy. She's such a wild card, if you will. And she's hammered all the time. Hammered all the time.

But I hope that she never falls into fizzle rocks because that would be upsetting because like she doesn't take me for a kind of woman that's going to get into like the G and G territory. No, because she's hammered all the time at her son's friends mocktail bar. Like, I still don't even know whether the fucking Bonneuese serves alcohol or not. I think they do. I think they do. I think they bumped it up to make more money.

Because at first they only were going to serve mocktails. Like, so I think that for a while we were supposed to believe that all these fucking mob bosses are hanging out of the Bonnui drinking mocktails. Getting sugar highs. But now, yeah, last night, Gladys was like pouring herself, you know, from behind the bar. And she said Reggie makes watery drinks. And so there is now real alcohol there. But she's just, she's not just a drunk, which I appreciate.

She is getting drunk at the, at her son's peer friend, like good friend, like probably his like third closest friend. Illegal speakeasy bar, child bar. It makes, it just makes me so. The fact that also, yeah, it's the gang bar in town that. that everybody goes to no matter what. But that's why I'm glad that she's brought in the pretty poisons. So is that going to be then the pretty poisons new? Like that's their spot then?

Does that mean that they're not going to eventually let serpents in and that kind of stuff? So the serpents have their own HQ, right? And now they're going to start and creating their own, which we'll get into. Oh, my God, the whole sheriff's thing. And then the gooies are gone because Penny P.Body's gone. And then the gargoyles are usurped by the serpents,

but then, you know, Kurtz is going to come out of the woodworks at some point with a new, brand new gang. So I'm assuming now that the pretty poisons is going to be the serpent's white worm. Or, like, the Labanui will be the serpent, like, to the pretty poisons, right? I guess that's right. I keep wanting them to unite because it just is such a logical, but at the same time, I know that there probably needs to be a lot more conflict before that'll happen. Because I feel like essentially, like the pretty poisons can work together with the serpents.

They're just the girl gang, and that's the dudes gang. Yeah. In this world of, like, keeping those things separate. I don't believe in those things. I think anyone can be in any gang they want to fucking be in. You know what I mean? It's very grease, you know, like the... It is very grease.

It's very much, you know, you've got your greases and your pink ladies. And I think that that's what they're doing with this. Yeah. Which also, fine, if they all want to have an orgy, I want to watch it. So another gang element of all of this that is an important part of this episode that we haven't gotten into is this little mystery boy, Ricky D.

Who Archie finds because Archie's temporary interest in boxing, which is almost over by the end of the episode, thank God. It is, especially him when he's just like, you don't understand, Ricky. When you're in the, like, what do he say? So like, when you're in the joint and boxing is your life.

It's like, Archie, you weren't in Juvie for that. Like, boxing is not your life. Obviously, you keep making dumb boxing decisions. But honestly, boxing Archie now kind of growing on me. How do you feel about boxing Archie? Well, boxing Archie, okay, so I had the most amount of positive feelings I've had towards Archie in, I don't know, since season one in this episode. This was a redemption episode for Archie, for me.

And one of the things is I think Archie is so dumb. that he talks to everyone the same way, you know? Like he talks to, he's just like, oh, because, like, he always has the same. He talks to everybody, like, he really needs them. He really respects them. And, like, he just is, like, completely, he's just, like, cars on the table, like, completely mutually respectful relationship with whoever he's talking to. Like, which I, you know what, that's nice.

Which is why Archie is Archie. That is the central part of the character. Yes, right. It's true. Right. He's just, like, he can get along with everybody. and he's really sweet and open-hearted. And I really liked the way that he related to Ricky.

I was like, I love that they have a little kid here. I want more jelly bean. Like, I think that, you know, the teens are represented, and I think having the tweens represented would be really fun. And eventually, too, Ricky is living in the cubby hole in the boxing gym that Archie is now working at as well as boxing at. And so he walked in on him just founding him while like flicking a lighter.

Yeah. looking a lighter in the dark. So Archie finds an orphan basically and, and the orphan is like, that's what this episode should have been called. Archie finds an orphan. And the orphan is like, take care of me. Archie and Archie, of course, is like, sure, you know. Please. I won't call social services because you're asking me not to. And so he takes him home to his house and then he drops him off at pops the next day. But yeah, what I liked about Archie was that he did not talk down to Ricky at all. He was very respectful of him. They didn't, and the The whole show, the script, the writers, like, they didn't treat Ricky like a little, like,

where? Like, he was just like a 12-year-old who was like, I've been- He's a street kid. Yeah, street kid was like, I've been fucked up by these people branded me. And they marked me for death. And, of course, we remember that Joaquin was branded and marked for death and then die, was killed. And then Freddie was marked for death.

And man, do they keep trying. I mean, not Freddy. Oh, God, Archie. I'm sorry. Just keep thinking about Fred. I know. I keep thinking about Fred. I know.

Well, it was really sad when Luke Perry comes in at the end of the episode. When he comes in, I actually like, I started to tear up a little bit. I know. I was like, oh, Fred, I know. It's really, it's really sad. But so, right, so Archie has been marked for death because he has the same brand. And so we spend most of the episode with Archie and Ricky's plotline being like, Archie's trying to help Ricky. Ricky's like, you can't send me back to social services. These guys are after me. My favorite part of the Ricky plotline is Archie leaves him at pops all day unattended. And then he comes at the end of the day to get him and pop's like, oh, you're looking for that little kid? A group of thugs chased him out. He left. He left. Group of

folks chased him out that way. He drew this terrifying ride. Pop, don't you have a gun in here? Pop, protect this child. Call the police. A group of adult criminals just chased a child out of your restaurant. I'm sorry, I don't endorse calling the police in reality most of the time. But in this case, I feel like pop should have called the police. Also, FP would have come in and a hunted these motherfuckers dad yes that's right fp is the sheriff so call fp yeah he's trustworthy and anyway pop is just like he oh yeah he got chased out of here by a group of adult criminals and very scary boys probably did i'm just like imagine him it was like pop pop pop get a hold of yourself and then he happened was huh he was drawn a little ditty on this piece of paper that he left behind it was just

like pop where you been at you're not seen you not read in the environment of river Dale right now. Pop, shit's going down. Yeah. And if a boy is drawing something like this. Satanic sacrifice drawing. Pop's just like, oh, you better find that boy. Oh, could be dead by now. Yeah. Pop.

Thank you. Jesus Christ. But so they find Ricky, he's hiding in the former gargoyle hideout, right? Mm-hmm. And when they find him, they also find a list of names of people who have been marked for death and Archie's name is on it and then Ricky's name is below. And so they're like, oh shit, Archie's been marked for death. We already knew that. Now Ricky's been marked for death. So you know, poor Ricky is the victim of, you know, the ghoulies are after him and we got to help him.

So once again, Archie takes Ricky back to his home. Jesus. Don't take him to your home. It's like, we can figure this out some other way. I just don't think that you're literally like allowed to take a strange child who isn't yours and take him to your home without calling the authorities like I don't think you do have to yeah right don't you have you have you have to call the authority yeah I think I don't know the laws I don't know the law kid in your house and be like I found him he didn't want I don't know I think we own him now he didn't want me to call anyone you know you can't do that like so archie sitting in the dark with Ricky playing video games and they're having a good time and then they get a call from miss

Weiss? Can you remind me who Miss Weiss is and how we know her? Social Services, bitch. Betty was like, oh, I'll call Miss Weiss. And everyone was like, oh, yeah, good old Miss Weiss. And I was like, oh, Miss Weiss. It's been here every step of the way. I'm assuming it is. I honestly don't remember. I really don't remember. It's one of the many. I was like, who is this. Anyway, they apparently have a friend in social services. They call her. She's like on it trying to find out who Ricky is. And then she calls Reggie, I mean Archie. And Archie steps into the further. darkness leaves the child unattended and uh and on the phone this wife is like his name is actually Ricardo DeSantis as in Joaquin desantis his brother which I don't really get why that's such a big deal because it's not like Joaquin was like like a ghost or something like he was just like a poor kid who was also like tortured by the fucking warden but at the same time I still did the when I found out because it was like oh because he was a saccharite and then they're going and it's like what is it about Because then I thought it was going to feed into a bigger, like, lineage generation. It was like that kind of thing where it's like they're killing families.

That's what I immediately thought. I was like, oh, my God, they're killing families. That's why they, and I paused it because, again, seeing myself, it's like, that's why it's like, they're going after Fred. And then they were going after Archie. And I was like, but because, you know, I know that that's like a general thing, but I thought that's where they're going with it. Okay.

Then we find out that's not where they're going with it. what they, he's violent. Get out of the house. He has a history of violence and self-harm. And so then Archie goes and looks for the child in the dark, finds him with a knife. And Ricky says, I'm sorry, but this is the only way they'll let me join their gang. And he said he wants to hurt Archie so that he can slice, slice him.

And so that he can be welcome. He starts slicing him just when hero Luke Perry, who, man, I did not know how much I would Miss Luke Perry until he was gone. I'm, I already, it's like he needs him. He needs him in his life. Heartbreaking. And so he comes in and he saves him. Yeah, and he saves him.

And I feel like, I think it's kind of fun that even the like the G&G heads or the gargoyles at this point, I love that they even know that a nine-year-old can play Archie. They're like, you know what? We don't need to get like a full grown dude after this guy. You know, we need somebody that's on the same level as Archie. I know a kid. Why don't we get to bring this kid in here and this kid can fucking dupe him? It's like, man, they just really, the second that they were like, he's violent and like whatever, I was just like, oh, man, a kid's going after Archie?

Because honestly, he got pretty damn close to kill it, Archie. of all the things, like even when, oh, because that's what it was. So Joaquin was the one that had stabbed him in prison as well. Joaquin had been charged with killing Archie, but basically to save himself. I still have nothing but sympathy for Joaquin. I love Joaquin was just in a bad situation. Yes. But then does it have something to do with the fact that they're brothers?

Like, is that something you're saying? Or am I mean, I just could be being a crazy bitch right now, which fair I usually am. I feel like I was very confused by the plotline of their brothers Because like I said, I felt like that was supposed to be like a moment But again, it's not like Joaquin was inherently evil It wasn't like he was a blossom or something Like he came from a family of criminals Like Joaquin was just a kid who had been tortured by the warden

And marked for death himself and was trying to save himself And so yeah, then this kid is trying to still essentially trying to save himself By killing Archie so that he can be part of the gang And And Archie is so hurt. He's like, you were playing me? You were playing me? I know, which actually was kind of sad because then it was just like Lenny

killing the rabbits. You know, it's like he didn't. I mean, you can't blame little kid too, though. You know, you're put into a situation. What are you going to do? And he had to kill the red paladin card. Yes. Which they find on the floor in the end.

He had been given the task to kill the red paladin. Everyone in Riverdale is just doing what they got to do to survive. Except for Veronica, who's doing what she's got to do to get to get, to get. rich to get her stuff. She's trying to get rich. Yes. But you know what? Money gets you everywhere. And you know what we haven't even talked about yet? Betty. Alice Smith, now the fact that Alice is going by Alice Smith, which I called in the very top of this. I was like, bitch going by Alice Smith. I see what you doing? And then when Betty is just like, oh, you're trying to sell the house. But what about this serial killer? That was fun. My father that showed us the snuff

films right here in the living room. And I love, I was like, yeah, Betty. That's fun. I really love when Betty is feeling sassy. Oh, and she's being very sassy right now. So Alice Cooper's trying to sell the house, which she does end up selling a house because of anonymous buyer, which I didn't know that could happen. I don't know anything about like adult things. Well, we're going to find out who that, I guarantee you that anonymous buyer is. It's Edgar Ever Evernever. It has to be. Yeah. Or Hiram or somebody. It's somebody, you know, she was like, oh, it's very Riverdale. It's anonymous. So it's obviously. got to be a villain of some kind.

Yes. Yeah, she finally sells the house despite Betty trying to sabotage that. Also, Betty is kind of trying to sabotage Kevin's relationship with the farm, but, like, clearly doesn't have a strategy. The only thing Betty knows how to do, I'm sorry, I love her, but the only thing she knows how to do is write articles in the school newspaper. And so she's like... And she's madlin.

She's like, I'm going to write an article in the school newspaper. And then Farm bitch and Kevin come and they're like, oh, you can't do that because we know all your mother's secrets about how you fucking killed a guy and had F.P. Dissolve him would lie. Fair, dude. I mean, very fair. Super fair. She should have been prepared for that.

But at the same time, what I immediately thought of was like, girl, you are a journalist, quote unquote. And you should know just because they know that information, where is the proof? There's nothing they can do about it. Just because somebody knows you did something, if they have no way to prove it, they can't prove it.

True, but that's a big gamble to be like, I definitely know that this happened where it's a definitely happened. An abundance of evidence. We were talking about it at pops all time. FP, you know, at that point, you're just relying on the fact that

FP was able to 100% dissolve his body with the lie. And that is a gamble. I mean, I just feel like Betty has to, Betty needs to, I know Betty's trying very hard. and I support her. But I also feel like she needs to think completely outside the fucking blue and gold box.

I'm sorry. You can't school newspaper your way out of this because they have inside information on you. You have to try to take them down from the inside. You cannot reason with Kevin. He's been absorbed into the clothes. Which also when she picked up that Farmy's meeting flap and saw Kevin with his hand over the Bunsen burner and then all of them were standing there with their hands over the Bunsen burners. And I was just like, I immediately was.

Like, what are they going to, obviously they're going to do something with fire. We get it, you know, rebirth and, you know, starting over rejuvenation. La, la, la, la, la. But does putting your hand over a Bunsen burner really make you ready to walk on hot coals? I don't think that it does. I think it's more of a mind over. I know it's a mind over matter thing. But like, that's a big jump of just like, okay, Kevin, on Monday, you started with the Farmy's.

On Thursday, put your hand over Bunsen burner. Because Friday night, you're walking on. on coals. Like, that's a lot to ask. Like, at least they took months of absorbing Alice Cooper before they tried to drown her at the baptism. Yes. I mean, they have their process. And my, they have quite a process. I really love the lack of supervision, adult supervision at Riverdale High activities. Just go in the chemistry room. No adult needed. Use a bunch of Bunsenberg. I don't know what, you know what, hey, they, They're tiny pyros.

You don't think other gangs, because that's the whole thing. The other gangs are the problems, but the farmies are running that fucking school. Yes. They're going to take over, dude. They're running the school, absolutely, and they're the most dangerous ones by far. And you notice every time you see Evelyn, she's with more and more people. They're just getting more people. But then so you got Edgar Ever and Ever at the top getting all the adults, and then Evelyn getting all the kids, which is that going to be some sort of like marriage?

thing that comes down the line that's going to end up being, I mean, well, let's not think about that, but I feel like something nefarious is happening, maybe between Edgar Ever and Evelyn, throwing that out there? Like a creepy father-daughter thing? Maybe? Uh-huh. But I also, you know, it's just, I've read a lot about sister wives.

But I think that, so then at the end, you see Alice Cooper, now all of a sudden trying to become a mother for three minutes of like, Miss, you better start boxing up these boxes. It's like, Mom, I literally just saved your life. So get off my fucking back. But she had a candle and she was putting her hand over the candle. And when she goes to meet up with Jughead and Archie in the end,

when they're like, this is going to be the new Serpent Sheriff Hybrid HQ. Did you notice the glassy look in her eyes? That bitch is getting farmy, dude. She did look glassy, but I assumed she was glassy because she had just set her house on fire. and she was happy about it. I mean, she did just set her house on fire and she's happy about it, but do you think that down the line,

do you think that she's going to get inside of the farm to get more information about the farm and that she's going to get swept up on the farm? Sabotage it from the inside, a la what she did of the Sisters of Quiet Mercy. Right? But then she might get actually swept up in it because it seems like, obviously they're using G&G,

and it doesn't seem like they're using any kids. candy involved unless they have their own version of candy or unless it's just like, you know, psychological takeover from the farmies. But it could be more than that and I feel like she's going to get accidentally taken it. Yep. Because what do you think, like burning down the house doesn't solve your problems? It doesn't. She just did that to stop her mom.

Like, I feel like she did it to, right. I mean, she's definitely created more problems. But I feel like she just, she was happy because she was like, my mom had her plan and now I sabotaged her plan. Okay, so you don't think if there's anything deeper there? No, there certainly might be. I mean, I like that Betty is like the last holdout. I mean, none of the fork, you know, Betty, Jughead, Archie, Veronica, none of them have been supped into the farm. But like, and Josie has and thank goodness.

So like I like that those kids are all still holdouts from the farm. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's certainly possible. that, I mean, I think that maybe, right, maybe Evelyn's not Edgar's kid and she's just an operator from the, maybe she's his wife or something, because she definitely is just in Riverdale to recruit people, you know, in Riverdale High to recruit people. Yeah. I mean, certainly none of them go to school. So that whole school part doesn't really matter. Although we did have a nice scene of them all hanging out in the student lounge again, this class, this episode, which I missed. Which was very cute. Yeah. It was very, I do, yes, I do miss, I miss them in the lounge having their gab fest. And then, oh, Kev walks by. I won't even acknowledge them.

I know. Because he's in too deep and Betty's the only one that has the time to care. And also, we just have to throw it out there that now all of the serpins are going to be working with the sheriffs, which I don't. They're going to be working with FP. Yeah. And so that's why they're getting their HQ. So that means that they're going like, I feel like that's too close to, like. They're going to be a cop gang.

The fucking cop gang. Drughead said stop selling drugs because we want to be like legit. and now they're going to be like a rogue illegal fucking vigilante wing of the Riverdale Police Department. It's awful. It's absolutely awful. And they're like, and I love the FPs.

This is this like gang of kids who like literally live outside. And FB is like, you can get a little bit of money and some credit for college applications. These guys don't even go to school. None of them go to school. They don't care. And they're like, he's like, who's in?

And they're all like, yeah, all right. Yeah. I'm into, you know what? I do want to go legit. It's like, yeah, it's like, what are you talking about? They have, they are not the Cheryl Blossoms of this school. They are not thinking about moving upward and outward. They're just getting by, man.

They're trying to survive. Yeah, like, yeah. They have been boxed out of everything legit in Riverdale for their entire lives, which is why they are a gang in the first place and why they've existed. And now they're like, let's be the fucking armed wing. I mean, not armed, the unarmed, I guess, wing of the fucking police department. part. I'm like not, you know, I am not thrilled about the servants becoming cops. Not thrilled at all. No. No. And I don't think that this is going to, and you know I love FP as sheriff, but this ain't going to be good.

No. But what do you think is going to end up? I feel like they're going to get, something is going to happen that they're going to, it's going to, I know what it involves the prison. I don't know what it is yet, but it involves the prison, that they are going to be some sort of clash about them trying to take down or it's just, going to be gang v gang violence and that's what the problem is. But if they're not going after the violent side of it, because then you've got wild card Kurtz over here that almost killed bangs in the hallway of the school and yet still didn't get kicked out of school, you've got him that he's going to come in with a new pack of wild rabbits looking for play. Yeah. Yeah, I said the wild rabbits to play. That doesn't mean anything of what I wanted to mean, but with context clues,

you get what I'm trying to say. I know the feeling of what you're trying to say, for sure. Thank you. I don't know what's going to happen, but all I know is that I am excited about it. There wasn't as much kissing in this episode, but you know what? There's a lot to get through.

There'll be some kissing because I'll bet you that Betty's going to move in with Juggy. Oh, she's going to have to. And I'm wondering if there's going to be some sort of, like, what, the FP Alice thing has got to come to ahead at some point, but I know we're going to watch some sort of drunken kiss fuck between Cladis Jones and FP, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's going to be some dirty, dirty sex. Ooh, and it's going to be like rife with the emotions of like, you had my children.

and it's been so long. Yeah, that's going to be... I get weak. That is going to be my all-time favorite sex of the entire series. Very, very much. So thank you guys so much for joining us this week. We're going to be back next week, and Lord knows, I think it's going to be a big inn.

I think it's going to be a big in. And I think that's next up, Farmy's big plot. Yeah, we're building. Oh, we're building. We love you guys, and we will talk to you next week. Bye. This show is made possible by listeners like you. Thanks to our ad sponsors, you can support our shows by supporting them.

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