Page 7 - Sad Dad Jazz w/ Holden McNeely

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

This week on Page 7, Jackie and MJ are joined by Holden McNeely, who's filled with (justified) hatred for the Star Wars prequels, Machine Gun Kelly has his aim set on nu metal as he drops a song with Fred Durst, and "Michael" makes some creative choices that leave out quite a large portion of his life. The Onion and Tim Heidecker are takin' Info Wars from Alex Jones and he's crashing out hard, Keegan-Michael Key's wife may have caused a massive implosion in his career, and they're actually gonna release the "Coyote vs ACME" movie! Then it's time for a list of celebrities who canceled their weddings at the veeery last minute, the blindz, and then a Jackie's Snackies starting at 1:11:14.057 that's a BETRAYAL ON ALL LEVELS, and then a savory golden MJ's Minute Munchies at 1:18:09.733 until 1:27:30.244, PLUS SO MUCH MOOORE!!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

roll going on in the tummy. Do you need to go shit? No, no, no. Do you need to go let it out before we start? We had some good. We had some chicken lettuce wrap kind of thing. Is that why? Too much fiber for you?

Is that what it is? You shouldn't be having this much protein? Too much of it, yeah. Well, Holden, I got to start the show. Okay, yeah, yeah. I feel like this song actually is coming. Sing us the song, the Jackie Woman. Thank you.

I appreciate that. But technically, I feel like this is coming to you from the prequels. Oh, Because we lost it all. Nothing lasts forever. I'm sorry. I can't be perfect. Now it's just too late.

And we can't go back. I'm sorry. I can't be perfect. Dad. Yeah, it's coming in from Simple Plan. And yeah, maybe my husband found me over the weekend, naked and lying in bed, crying, listening to Simple Plan. Yeah, you were a real, a real Anakin right then.

Yes, I was feeling, honestly, I think I was given Jar Jar. I think that was the problem. Misa said, yeah. Misa, weird stereotype thing. Yes, Misa Sad Binks. And I kept saying Misa Sad Binks. And Jeff just like, open the door and then immediately closed it. And it was just like, you know, I'm not even going to touch it. I'm not going to go anywhere near it.

And because sometimes my wife puts on the someone call a doctor because I'm sick playlist. Life the sage at that point. You got to let it go through you. The simple plan move through you. So do you think that maybe that's what was wrong with the prequels holding is you think it was too much simple plan? That was your simple plan to get naked and cry. I love that you call it your simple plan. Yes, it is.

And I don't need to call that because I think that also people are referencing the Billy Bob Thornton movie, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the epic perfect band simple plan. But I'm going to throw it out there. Only the one album. Only that one album. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately. It happens.

Yes. Hey, to make, by the way, to make one incredible album is so fucking hard. Yes. Yeah. It's actually a miracle when a group or a human can make more than one just great song. Yes, you're right. And also, hey, MJ, how are you? Oh, yeah.

No, I'm just over. I'm surprised that you chose perfect and not I'm just a kid, but, you know, I guess you're not just a kid. No, I need it because. The thing is that now I've changed because of Buffy. I'm just a kid and life is a nightmare. We have changed into I'm just a key and life is a nightmare, so I can't take it seriously enough for me to be crying through, you know? No, that is hard when a song becomes a joke song and not a crying song.

And sometimes it starts off as a crying song, and then it becomes a joke song, and then sometimes it goes in the other direction. And Dawn is still crying, even though technically she's not a key anymore, but she is always a key. Yeah. By the way, so we were just, it just was brought, I came in kind of ranting about the prequels. I will just say this. If you're a nerd of mouth listener.

The prequels of Star Wars, by the way, unrelated to anything topical. Totally. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, no. I think it's actually, we found how it's directly related to that Mormon documentary about the child brides. Oh, because of Jar Jarbanks? No, because, well, actually, honestly, probably. Probably.

We'll find that connection. No, the weird Natalie Portman Anakin, uh, uh, uh, the grooming. in the boy. Everyone would say, everyone's talking about the Star Wars prequels because of the child bride situation in Star Wars prequels. The Queen and the Boy. It should just be called the Queen has sex with the boy. That's what those, that's what they should be called.

Is that what happens in the prequels? Essentially so, so. Is that what Natalie Portman was doing? It's weird. It is weird. It's so, it's so, look, we don't need to break it down. I'm going to break it down in a future episode. I just want to give a warning to people.

Like, if you are, let's just say, complete. fucking moron idiot that likes the prequels. Probably avoid a upcoming episode of nerd about the mouth because I am definitely going to be taking a full shit on them after I've been revisiting them. I think that's the first time it's ever happened, right? I think no one's ever shot on the prehistoric. That's squirching new take.

The prequels aren't good. The internet, which I'm starting to realize the internet as a whole maybe has some kind of like fentanyl issue or something. Well, test it. You're always got to test it. They've decided the prequels are somehow like not bad. I'm not even going to say good. They're just like, they're not bad.

And so I've like been, I came in being like, maybe I'm misremembering things. I haven't watched these movies in so long. Maybe it'll like really kind of be shy. The only difference is I used to think the first one was like the maybe the better of the three. Probably the third one's the better of the three. But at least I didn't think the first one. was so bad and I actually think it's one of the worst movies

ever fucking made. And I'm just glad that we're getting these hot takes before. This is your prequel to the nerd of mouth episode. So I hope that you're supping this. I want to relax. I want to watch a documentary about child brides and play Super Meas Boy 3B. We just want to be watching Trust Me the False Prophet.

But I can't because I got to watch Jar Jar Binks fucking be racist. Let's talk about the Jewish flying buck, man. I think we can. I think we can table that. We don't. We don't know. for the Asian trade lore? I think we can save it for the nerd of mouth episode.

So anyways, my advice to you if you like those movies is find the donkey that kicked you in the fucking head and get kicked again. Well, I'm just talking about somebody getting kicked in the head by a mule, a desperate housewives. Yeah, you did bring that up. And speaking of desperate housewives, hold it was the early 2000s, everything was casually racist. It was just the, it was, we celebrated it. We were like, let's do some stereotypes. you know? Yeah, we were in a debate right now with my co-host about what's more bad, the Jewish pod racer guy who ends up with a fucking yamauga in the second movie, mind you.

What? Yes, he wears a little hat. It looks very much like a fucking yamaica. It's crazy. We're like, is this worse? Does he really wear a yamaica in the second? I don't know. It's worse.

Look at the picture jacket. It's in my text chain. Oh, my God, dude. I'm blown away by the wrongs of the past. And we're trying to sit here and fix, we can't even fix clear wrongs of recent times. How are we going to get rid of a statue of Robert Lee? I mean, seriously, look at this. That's not, that's bigger than it.

Oh, my God. That's not. That's a full hat. I held it up to me, even though I'm in a different city. He held it up to the screen. I can't see your photo. You're across the room on a screen. Why don't you send me, show me it, and I'll take a picture and I'll post it on the last pod.

This is the most boomer thing I think we've ever done. Oh, wow. Jackie's now taking a picture. of the phone. Okay, we can't be a pop culture podcast. Excuse me. Someone has to make social media posts, okay? And sometimes you take a picture of somebody holding

up a picture, okay? I can't believe or taking a picture of the phone. And Jay, I'm pretty sure Jack you's talking about herself right now. I can't tell. Somebody's got to make it, okay? Somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got to have ideas, all right? Yes. Yes. You do great and we appreciate you. Thank you. I think she's doing a bad job.

Thank you. I'll take it. As long as you acknowledge I'm doing the The recognition at this point is validation. So that's it. Thank you. I am sorry. Let me. Thank you.

I just want to apologize. So little reason to bring up the prequels in 2026. There's so many more important celebrity news and things to talk about. Yeah. Obviously like Simple Plan, which is why I started there. Because sometimes you got to take it back now, y'all. Honestly, the reason why I started listening to Simple Plan was because I saw some meme online that was talking about. It was a father.

driving his daughter somewhere and he's like, this is what I play when my 15 year old is pissed off at me. Because the whole song starts with like talking to your dad. Like, hey, dad, look at me. Think back and talk to me. Did I grow up according to your plan? No, because you're talking like a 13 year old. So I would say you didn't grow up at all.

And so that's why I would rather you be gay and trans than whatever you're doing right now. Well, I don't know what that means. And I feel like that's not what this husband, this father was talking about. And I just thought it was kind of fun because I just kept thinking about how annoying, man, you're going to be, Holden, when your teenager is so upset with you. I already annoy her now. I know. And it's just going to get worse and worse. I also think about this.

There's going to be a time when Holden's really fun when he's taking the kid to concerts and, you know, like all of that. and then it's going to very suddenly tip over into you just ruining her life just by existing. And that's going to come for all of us. Like I've been spending a lot of time with middle schoolers this year. Like I know that awaits us all, but it is going to be a special time. When Woody has the point to you would be like, that's my dad. You know, it's going to be real. I get actually really excited to, like, as a thought project or a thought exercise.

And something I'm excited to get to is what. music are they going to listen to their music that's alienating to us. Like, I'm so excited to hear that music because I love really shitty music, you know what I mean? And you're very good at loving pop music and keeping up with what's new.

But even weird or like weird stuff or like, I know it's not that weird, but like, you know, hyperpop or like, you know, mumble rap or any kind of, you know. I mean, you do like Machine Gun Kelly. I, oh my God, he just put out a song with Fred Durs. He's gone out of art. Oh, yeah.

He's gone new metal, ladies and gentlemen. You know what I say, MGK, keep your hands off my new metal. Thank you so much. I'm so into it. I'm so into it. I'm just, you're just, touching it. The praise is a new metal. But wait a minute, simple plan isn't new metal.

No, no, no, no, no. That's whiny rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's whiny rock. Yeah, it's a good call. Yeah, I'm saying. Pop punk back in my day, but Winey Rock is better. Isn't that also Winey Rock, though?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, you're right. No, no, Pop Punk was not Winy Rock initially. It emo invaded Pop Punk, and that's when, like, Paramore and, I mean, I guess my chemo, Romance. I mean, yeah, it's kind of a, they became kind of amalgamations of, you know, cesspools, if you will, of, but I love it. I mean, I love super overdramatic.

I mean, that's what I'm doing in my songwriting. My rules for my songwriting, I have four songs in is. I like, and yet, at the same time, the name of your songs are like, I love him. Yeah, but that's it. I'm in love again. I'm in love again. Well, that's my thing. Rule number one, do not try to be cool.

There's no being cool. And don't worry. Number two, if he's in love again with his wife, I asked him, he said no. No. So, don't know. This is based on the past. Not about my wife. It's based on when I first fell in love.

Oh, my God, Jesus. Why would I write a love song about my wife, Jackie? I'm a storyteller. What are we going to renew our vows? Yeah. You could. Whatever. This episode is coming out on the day of my 10 year.

wedding anniversary. Damn. Are you renewing the vows? No, we're doing nothing because life is, life is a nightmare. Yes, you're thank you. I'm just a 10-year wedding person and life is a nightmare. And I thought I was going to have a big, I was like, let's throw another wedding and let's renew our vows.

And now literally nothing. We will celebrate at some point. I'm just finishing graduate school right now. But like, we don't, I don't know if we're going on to dinner. You're in the last three weeks of grad school right now, by the way. You're in the last three weeks. MJ is in Govill over there. You're in the town of Govville.

Not in a mode of Go. No, no, just in the town of it. It's better than being in Whoville, because if you were trapped there, I'd be like, I've got to get back to the grad school. Right, yeah, it'd be tough to be trapped in Hooville. I just call it Criington, but, you know, Govroles better.

I love Cryington. I love crying to. I was right now when I write my songs, but that's the thing. I want to be unabashedly overdramatic and not cool. I don't want to try to chase any kind of preexisting genre or that's like current. Although one song I was like, this is kind of getting into Cameron Winter Territories,

the guy from Geese, his solo album. But other than that, even then I was like, but I like playing what I'm playing. So I'm going to keep going. I just want to be so uncool with my music. You will be.

And there's nothing. That's the thing. There's nothing you can do to be cool to your children. They developmentally have to get. disgusted with you at some point. Yeah, they're gonna be like reverse rap. You say all the words backwards. Well,

let me. What fun is? No, no, no, like, you know what I mean? Like they talk like a demon because if it's demons music, that's awesome. That just becomes metal. Yeah. What's it gonna be? MJ, we're not gonna know what it is.

It hasn't existed yet, probably. Like, what's it? And rap is like, I don't want to say it's like falling off, but it's kind of hit its peak and it's starting. So it's, we're usuring space for new. You think rap is fall. This is an online discussion. This is an online discussion.

Well, it hit, if you look at music genres, like, just like what happened with rock is what's happening with rap. It's kind of the same. It became the number one. Pop is actually taking back over in terms of the number one, like, most popular genre. Of the monoculture. I'm just talking about, by the way.

We're not talking about, like, anything else. Culture and on, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. But even in, like, on discussions on Reddit and stuff, people are trying to acknowledge, like, there's not a lot of, like new good faces in rap right now. Like we're kind of still, our top dogs are kind of the same as they have been for a while now.

Yeah. And sometimes, you know, these pop stars, they go up to the top and they remain there like Michael Jackson. And that is how, at least the movies. Everyone knows he released bad in 1988 and then. Done. And then it was. And then we're done.

And we're done. No need to pursue it after that. And it's over. I'll throw it out there. I wrote this down. This is from Kyle, who was a part of our chat. I did not say this. And I thought it was very funny.

And he said, great, I can't wait to see the OJ biopic only about his football days and his naked gun movies. And I thought that was very funny. So apparently, the Michael movie, they had a full third act that did get into all of the allegations. And then all of it had to be scrapped. What? All of it because of all of it. because of like the contracts that the family had signed with the victims, they weren't allowed to profit off of the story.

So they had shot a bunch of it. And then they had to scrap a bunch of it and try to rework. And I'm not saying this is a way of boo who I feel bad for them. It is just there at least was a reason. And then here's the thing though. They still put the move. Yeah. I feel like at that point, then you lose it.

I'm going to call that a bad Kevin Smith movie. It's a cop out. I think they're just hiding behind that legal excuse to try to, like, ease some of the... But they shot a bunch of it. Like, there is a bunch of it that had been shot. So, like, it was supposed to happen. But I do feel like, then you don't put the movie out. And I heard that they are...

But I heard they are in development on that. It's called Michael 2, colon space, Ihi. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. call his face, E-hee, yeah. And that's going to get into all the, you know, because they called it E-He because it kind of all the, bleep, bleep, he did to the children.

Is that the sound you think that, like, that's why he was. Yeah, that's what you think. That's what you feel. I think we have. Yeah, I would say it was like a squeaky door. Yeah, he sounded like a squeaky door when he was. Bleep, bleep, bleak. And these sorts of things.

Just so, we had, we had to get off the show holding. Get out of here. You're going to get E-heed right out of it. Edit it out. Yeah, get rid of that. Yeah, just do a big bleep over that whole of the last 45 seconds if you could. You know, we had from 2009, which was, by the way, eminently before

any sort of cancel culture. And I remember when he died, people were like, there was some weird stuff at the end there, but let's just focus on the music. So I feel like we had from 2009 when he died until 2019, when leaving Neverland came out, to be like, yeah, there was a lot of weird stuff.

But like, let's just focus on. the story and the legacy and the music. It was the summer that he died, the music situation in Brooklyn was fucking incredible. It was like, everybody was just like, let's just live in Michael Jackson music. Yes, we all know that it got real weird at the end, but at the time

I feel like it was... It was so important to so many people. Yeah, I'm with you on that, in Jay. And like the creepy stuff, it was like, you know, it wasn't like it, I mean, a lot of that stuff happened while he was still alive. So it wasn't like, oh, how could we know? We could. But then it, I feel like it really, it was like

leaving Neverland was just the nail in the coffin for me of like, and I remember talking about this on the political show that I had with my brother at the time where I was like, well, what does it mean? Like if someone's canceled, what does it mean? Do I like not put Michael Jackson's music on a playlist anymore? And somebody wrote in and was, I just think about this all the time with cancel culture. It was like, you can do whatever you want, but the question is like, will you enjoy hearing it? Or will you think about leaving Neverland when you hear?

And like, that's it for me. I'm like, I just, I fucking loved the period of time that everybody was like listening to Michael Jackson. It was so amazing and I loved learning about him. I had a best friend when we were young who was completely hyper-focused obsessed with him and all of that. And it's like all of that's valuable. But then I just got after leaving Neverland, I was like, I just cannot experience this the same way. And like RIP to that era, you know. And it's hard. And this is where I kind of like, it's what I love and is hard about Twitch chat is, you know, on Friday we had someone donate for a Michael Jackson video and probably also partially because of the, you know, the movie coming out, right?

And immediately, because I kind of forget, right? And I think we as a society forget, and this kind of bugs me about discourse online, right? I immediately start going in on the fact that this movie's been made with completely ignoring all the allegations. And on top of that, another cardinal sin that's not nearly as bad is that it's just a generic as all fuck, boring as shit, music biopic that just is a nothing burger, right? So on top of that, like I would already be eye-roly about it, right? Like without the just heaviness. And we're kind of going in on. People are being very blunt about, you know, the issues with him.

And there's a couple people in chat, including the person who donated for the song, just being like, man, this sucks so fucking much. This is a person who we just, I grew up like with my mom listening to this music. Right. Totally. And to kind of shit all over that. And this is what drives me crazy. And I feel like when I try to do this with Woody Allen, people are a lot quicker to be like, fuck you and fuck him.

And nothing drives me crazier to when something like this is going on and people are like, I fucking hated his movies anyway. And it's like, okay, but you didn't grow up. Like I didn't discover Woody Allen. His movies rather, thank God, because he might have, you know. But when I was a child. I just say, Michael, this is some of the craziest. PR fucking bullshit.

Michael, everybody is talking about this movie and talking about what a shit show it is. It is 38% on the thermometer. But then according to the audience scores, it's 97%. Yeah, don't worry, guys. It's number one. It's actually number one.

It's absolutely a number one movie. So don't you worry about the certain people upset about molestation and how fucking horrible it is. That's not. them paying for this. No, no, no, no, okay? Yeah, yeah, awful.

It is always easier when the person getting canceled is someone who you don't love. Yeah, I'm so sick of that sentiment. It's such an ignorant sentiment. It's like, you know, it makes me crazy. We're like, when a comedian's getting canceled and like, God knows I don't give a fuck about so many dickhead comedians getting canceled,

but I still pisses me off. You know somebody I don't like. When somebody goes online, it's like, I hated their comedy anyway. And it's like, that's not what this is. It really misses the point. It really misses the point. People can make really good things and still be really awful people.

And it's like, yeah, I think there was a way of being like, yeah, totally. This was when people are like, well, the canon of American literature, you know, was too white and male for a while, which is true. And then, like, I'm still thinking about the caller daddy interview. But it's like, well, then don't read those books. Okay. Like, I just feel like there's a way that you can be like, we can point out the problems with things that have happened and also point out that sometimes things that have happened that are problematic have also been, like, Good.

Bad people have made good art. And if it was, if it would be very, it would be very easy if every thing, if every person that was shitty never made good art. Yeah. But unfortunately, that's not, that's not the world we live in. I don't want my artists to all be sane, well-adjusted human beings. Right. And everything will be sports by Huey Lewis in the news.

And I like sports by Huey Lewis News, but I don't think that should be all of art. But also, Holden, I wish you would think about this for a second before you throw Jar Jar Binks under the bus. Oh my God, dude. Can we please separate the art from the artist? Holy shit. Not Jar Jar Binks' fault. You know, all I can think about is that...

Okay, can we please think about him. All I can think about is that poor actor that thought his whole life was going to be like the great, just this amazing... Is there a butthole cut of Jar Jar Bix? Holy shit. Is there? I want to see all of his asshole. Everything about that character is unappealing.

Anyway, but to go back this really quick. Oh, yeah. One thought I had that was funny to me that I don't think I said out loud, though I would have. I'm saying it in this microphone now is, well, if I can't have Woody Allen, then you can't have Michael Jackson. What's a thought I had? Which I think is so stupid. And then at the same time, I want to acknowledge, too, because we are three white-ass people talking to a microphone about Michael Jackson.

There's also a lot going on with. That has that we are not a part of that conversation. And I know that there were. There are dimensions. We just don't. And I know that the people in chat were people of color. And I felt like a real dick had sitting here being on my high horse. being like fuck this guy, what fuck this movie,

because it just goes so much deeper. And I'm not saying like anybody's right or wrong, but it just is more complicated. It's not good and evil. It's not a pure, it's not always so simple, which is why I feel like the longer these conversations have gone on,

the harder it has been to be like, well, just never include anybody who's cancelable. And it's like, well, then we're going to have a lot of quiet. We're going to be losing a lot of people. And what's tough is, and I think this is what's tough, is what I've noticed in discourse online especially is it can just be, people can just make very black and white,

pun intended, I guess, kind of like statements about things that are like really hurtful to other people to just be like, he's fucking sucks, he's a child molester, fuck this guy, and it's like, yeah, yeah, you are right, technically, but you're really like not regarding this other person's lived experience at all. Right.

And not trying to be at all sensitive towards their lived experience and where they're coming from. You know someone we can all collectively get behind, though? Alex Jones. And how much we can get behind throwing him off of a cliff. Can we just throw that out there? I love it, man. Some things are clear.

Yes, this is very black and white. Or rainbow colored now, thank God. Yes, because the onion has officially purchased Info Wars and it is everything you would hope it to be. And people like, oh, they've tried to do that in the past. You're right. They have. But they've officially, because Alex Jones, as he should be, is being destroyed financially because of the lawsuits with everything with Sandy Hook and everything.

Because he owes the families, I think, billion or like at least a billion dollars, which. Ah, yes, as you should. And now they are taking Info Wars, which for those that don't know was Alex Jones's show. It was his platform that he spewed all of his disgusting vitriol as well as just absolute garbage lies that people, I mean, don't get me wrong, way back in the day when they were like, there's fetuses on the Pepsi. I thought it was funny. You know. Yeah, Hillary Clinton smells like sulfur. Yeah, I thought it was funny.

You know, but then that's the point is that so much of this rhetoric went from being funny to being in charge of our government. So, like, we watched it get very scary. But I have been making the joke, which is. I think that we are talking about this on chat that it is weirdly Alex Jones versus Alex Earl versus Alex Cooper. I'm glad we brought that in. We got to talk about the Alexes.

Throw them all into a pit. I want to see what happens. I want to see those girls rip him to shreds. And I know that he's always walking around like trying to pretend without a shirt on. Just being like, I'm Alex Jones. I just want to watch them just like with long fingernails actually legitimately like the,

like the cenobites would rip him apart for their own pleasure. Yeah. There's, I mean, I'm still, every, a couple of weeks ago now, Jackie brought up the Alex versus Alex feud. We were like, oh, we'll get to that. Can't really bring ourselves to care deeply about this. And now it's still there. And now there's a time, there's a TikTok timeline on Cosmo,

Alex Cooper and Alex Earle's feud timeline for everyone. And I'm over here. I'm like, this starts in 2003. Oh, yeah. And it's a long. They've been working together for a while. And also, I want to say it further makes me feel not as old and, you know, just not with it as some other people. Because before Holden, when MJ and I were first getting into Danza with the Stars, we kept, like we were kind of confusing Alex Cooper and Alex Earl.

And I feel, and it's not just blonde white woman blindness. It is also the fact that they work together. And at least that made me feel a little bit better. Although, would we have confused them? Regardless, I think the answer is yes. Well, and then that begs the question. Wait, where do they work again? What's their thing?

Alex Cooper is the one that's in charge of, like, unwell. Like, she's the one that she just call her daddy. She's like, she's created her own full company of... And apparently it's a kick and Michael Key situation with her as well, with her husband, right? With what? Well, that's what I think what... I just saw blind about this. Alex Earl, oh, let me...

Let me see if I can bring it up. I thought she was schup and Tom Brady. The call her daddy, one of the call her daddy ladies has a very toxic husband that's involved himself in all of her business dealings. This is the blind. Apparently the podcaster who spells the first name incorrectly is about to throw the husband of the podcaster who spells the name correctly under the bus. So that for those lost Alex Burrell. That's judgmental of how they spell their name. It's thought up to that.

I mean, yes. I mean, it's not. But Alex. But also the husband, Matt Kaplan. Yeah, Matt Kaplan. Apparently he, all the rumors swirling, he is a very toxic, a workplace person, causing all sorts of issues, which is so cool when you worked so hard to build things up. And then your partner just completely sabotages them from within, as if they shouldn't exist at all.

That's, because however you feel about Alex Cooper, which how I feel is completely neutral, a static, a flatline, if you will. It's not up or down. But however you feel about her, she clearly is like an ambitious, successful, you know, public figure. And to have it be... Successful just nothing. Successful just... Whatever she does.

I guess she seems to be very good at it. Well, she's created a whole media company. I mean, she's very successful. No, no, for sure. No, no. She's very successful. I just don't... I think we're all having the same thing where you're like, oh, this just...

What does she do again? And I listened to call her daddy recently. And I was like, okay. Sure. I guess you can do that. I guess that's how you can do that. And just be extremely successful. Now, Holden, do you want to talk about the Keegan Michael Key situation?

Because this is a new, this is a pop culture kind of fresh one that just came out that we're all kind of catching up on. It's a fresh. Yes, I do want to give a shout out to the new upcoming, what's the name of Alex Jones's station? Info Wars. Info Wars. Products, they're all rainbow colored. and partial money from purchasing them is going towards the Sandy Hook victims as well. And everything, all the merch is now like pro trans coded and rainbow colored and everything.

They are immediately trying. And who is it? Like, are they working with Tim and Eric? What's the same? Yeah, yeah. Tim Heidecker. It's going to be so good. Alex Jones then went on a tear trying to like take Tim Hidecker down, but he was using only like, he used like a mugshot from a Tim and Eric sketch.

He used like, like, see. from Tim and Eric and tried to twist it like he's like evil and like that's like yeah those are sketches those are comedy sketches yeah he did too in his 20s but even then it's like I don't even think there's anything necessarily like so offensive about anything that he did

God if you could travel back in time to like 2007 I know the guys from Tim and Eric are going to be instrumental in like taking down Alex Joe's but God yeah it is what the fuck it's just beautiful to watch I do love it and I you know we don't get to see everyone that we want to see fully canceled. We don't usually get to see it happen. And I really

think that we're going to watch this happen with Alex Jones and have him really, really, really, really lose everything. I mean, the only thing that makes me worried about this is it's such a fun, big move that I just hope it doesn't somehow help him. You know what I mean? Because everybody's talking about it. Because like if it just went away, he would probably have a better chance of just going away. Yeah, but everybody was talking about him. I feel like everybody really got to know him through the Sandy Hook loss. Yeah. Like, I feel like that is. For anyone that didn't know about him, I think they've learned about him then. It's too much fun to not do it.

So, like, whatever. All that fear aside. Like, it's too fun to do it. It's just, what noise equals noise, right? Like, so. And Alex Jones is genuinely evil. Like, we can all collectively, again, get on the same side of, fuck you, Alex Jones, or at least anyone I would ever want to be around. Or the effect that Info Wars has had on society is all is extremely negative.

And it's like, we all want comedy to, like, have a. a gigantic impact on like social change and sometimes it does and sometimes it just kind of like we just kind of like wish it could or it kind of feels like it does but in this case it did but i feel like in this case this is just like a material like materially the onion being like we will take the thing that you enriched yourself off of by hurting people and we will take it and we will make it and it just feels like a very like tangible way that comedy is being like you're that's not yours anymore it's We're taking this back. Yes.

That kind of happens politically as well and all that kind of stuff. But hopefully, Kegan Michael Kee will be able to take back something now that, so they are still together. Do you have the storyteller's name is the only thing? I do want to give credit where credit is due. This was kind of floating around really recently online. Akela Hughes. Akila Hughes. She did this storytelling show where she got up.

It's called an open Hollywood. The actual video. Let me open it. Oh, sorry. She's super funny too. I followed her forever. She's really really. It's under their name, Akela, obviously, and I believe it's called Hollywood is run by Maniacs, is the 12-minute-long video, like a storytelling video that she puts out.

It's just essentially in a nutshell. Go watch the story. It's a lot of fun. And, you know, she really makes it obvious. It's Keeg of Michael Key, even though she uses, like, stuff, you know, I don't even know if that gets you out of getting sued because she literally calls, refers to the comedy duo as Locke and Banana. I mean, technically, that could still be viewed as parody. know there are ways that you can get around things, but essentially do you want to give us a TLDR?

Yeah, just the TLDR is that she was like getting hot, getting heat in, you know, New York goes to L.A. Where the land of opportunity in Hollywood connects with this, with Kegu Michael Key on this show concept she's developing. And he helps her like- Oh, she's got crazy eyes. Oh, she's got crazy eyes. And helps kind of get it shopped around and stuff like that.

As this is happening, weird things start happening, which essentially starts with like this woman who is married to Gika Michael Key is all of a sudden just magically attached to the project as an executive producer. And then she starts like meddling and like, the big thing is she joins this like Zoom call and makes everybody alienated. And she starts getting word that like people do not fucking like to work with this one. Some of her comedy suggestions because she was in there giving notes. Yeah, she came in with notes.

And she went into Disney and said the wife suggested, quote, comedy comes in threes. the letter K is funny and give the audience candy. And her gut told her to like stop, her gut told her like maybe we should reset or like refigure out this kind of development situation. But, you know, she was just writing that momentum and stuff. And then she runs into, by all accounts, the way she makes it sound, Jordan Peel's wife, who is Chelsea Pready, correct?

Yeah. And Chelsea Pretti is literally like, I should have warned you about her. She reminds me of Phil Hartman's wife. Like she's going to, and she literally said like tingles, like went up her spine when she was telling her this. You realize it was like that horror movie moment of like, I'm fucked because of this person who I didn't even have any involvement with connecting to this project. And it's just, and then essentially they end up. Well, also it seems like after she gave her notes to Disney, they end, she ends up. And again, I'm just reading like a short like notes of someone wrote down clip notes on the Reddit.

because I only watched it once. That essentially that she sued, because Disney wasn't taking her seriously, she sues Disney. And eventually they get, so it ruins anything Keegan Michael Key was doing. Absolutely ruins it. And they're like,

okay, fine, we'll pay you off. And now we're none of, and also we're a parent company, none of the companies that we own are ever going to work with you ever. And fuck him. And she,

she like restarts, gets Key off the project. But the strike happens right then, and then new management comes in. Igor cancels all the projects on Disney, and she just gets fucked. And this is probably a dime a dozen story in Hollywood in this kind of situation. And it was also reading about, like, Kegan Michael Key was married to Cynthia, I don't know the last name, like Blaze. They were married for 19 years, and they, like, they broke up and he was engaged to L. his current while like the crazy wife was engaged like very very quickly and which also makes sense

of like this woman moved yeah yeah went right after yeah and it is and you're right that everything you read and heard about phil hartman's wife too was a fair you know of like pulling him away from everybody and if you notice like his career is just very notably like Jordan peel is yeah you always kind of wonder you're like why he he seems so talented he's so talented It's so attractive. You know, like... Why is he doing, like, kind of these commercials while, you know, this commercial work while... Yeah, and all that kind of stuff.

And it's just crazy with this whole thing, too, because there were anecdotes about her in the Reddit chat. Now, this is all very alleged, right? This could be just people making things up. But I liked one story, someone said, of, like, she was at this restaurant, and she complained about, like, she started freaking out and having this, like, allergic. attack because of the certain kind of plant that she was seated by until she was informed that

the plant was not real. And then she quickly, yeah. She's that kind of crazy person where she has a lot of allergy sensitivities and so she's my wife. I'm just really talking about Lexi. No. Lexi has real allergy. Lexi has real allergy sensitivities.

She like is clearly just one of those. There's a Reddit post from three years ago discussing I think I'm looking at the same one. In podcast, fly on the wall, which is hosted by Dana Carvey and David Spade, which I didn't know that existed. And that sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, it is a good. It's a fun show.

And the Reddit post is the headline is Keegan Michael and Elki episode. Anyone else find it unlistenable. He is likable and interesting. And she's- She talks over him the entire time. Oh, I can't wait to watch that. Oh, I love episodes like that of podcasts. And so everyone, this Reddit post has 103 comments of people talking about what a nightmare she is. from three years ago, because I was saying, like,

kind of wild of Akela Hughes to tell the, like, a very scary moment to be a public figure and being like, I'm telling this, like, open secret, but I'm actually, like, not naming, but naming it. Like, and so now it's like, if you look up, Akila is in, like, you know, news results, like, now this is a whole thing for her. But, like, that's very nerve-wracking

to be like, this is a story that I'm putting someone on blast about, and now, like, let's see where that goes, you know? Yeah. Just kind of scary. Yeah. I mean, I feel like it's going viral enough, right? It's like hitting.

So I wonder how it affects her life. I hope that she, I hope that like Elle doesn't, I don't know, singer-flying mom's like she's really like sue happy. I mean, you could only just hope that she's just done it so much that she's not really acknowledged anymore in a wall. Or maybe she's destroyed enough of Kegan Michael Key's legacy that like they can't maybe or maybe they shouldn't just go and sue her. But comparing her to Phil Hartman, Amelia, makes me like, afraid for the man's light. I know. I mean, that's a comparison that I don't think any comedian would like make lightly.

Make lightly. Especially, yes. Not at all. Pretty. I wouldn't. And, you know, again, and I get that horror movie moment as sending chills up her spine when she hears this, right? Because she knows it's true. Oh, God.

Terrified. Your whole life. Like, it's not your whole life. Like, life will move on. The project falls apart. You're talented. Life will move on. But especially in that moment and in general.

role, just fucking your life up. Yes. This person you never has to be involved. I mean, that's so Hollywood, though. I mean, there's no way to avoid, you know, outside people. Like, it's, or at least extremely hard to be in a bubble and, like, not have some influence from some character in the production or whatever that, like, you don't want. You know what I mean?

Right. Like, in a Hollywood, I'm talking to Hollywood. Like, obviously, if you're keeping things small, you can avoid that. But yeah, it's just awful. I mean, and that's why so many things don't happen. I mean, that's why I was just about to bring up Coyote versus Acme. I was just about to bring up because I wanted, like, I know that we have to get over to the list, but I wanted to,

because you guys, you did a nerd of mouth episode on Coyote versus Acme, right? The whole episode about it. We just remember you, I remember us talking about it. We talked about it a lot. We've talked about it a lot. Yes. I think, you know, what it was was Jake actually kept bringing it up on our, like Patreon bonus stuff for Nerd of Mouth.

So we had started like following the story. Because also it was shelved in 2023. That's what it was. We did do an episode. We did an episode on like Warner Bros. And the new, because there was that new Looney Tunes movie that came out. The Porky Pig, Daffytoe movie, which I still recommend the day the earth blew up. It was so fun.

I got to see it in the theater and I loved it. And the death of, you know, Looney Tunes and Warner Brothers and all the finit things going. all the Kagan's wife meddling happening. That's what we're going to start calling it. So apparently originally, Coyote v. Acme did get originally canceled because essentially the studio could take a $30 million tax write off. So even though it was made and completely done,

they decided to scrap it anyway. And now essentially they are putting it out. And we get it in August. We are going to get the Coyote v. Acme. But this is huge. This is something that they've been working towards. like I know that Bill Heders, but all of them been working towards

four years of trying to get this movie released and I am genuinely excited about it. Yeah, that looks awesome. I was excited because it comes out around-ish my birthday and I was like, maybe we all go for my birthday and Lucy Coyote for Zach me! What a celebration of something that

was really dire for a while and I know it's just a movie and whatever but it genuinely made me sad because by all accounts, everybody was like, no, it's like really good and we're really happy about it and and it's the kind of fun movie that's like not space jam too that's not like Avengers the 18th movie you know it was just like this new this interesting fun idea right right involving old IP but like you know kind of and and god I think we all were lit up by who framed

Roger Rabbit back in the day right I know I was like oh my god I still will throw it on at any time I mean, it's just, it's such, and the way they made it, it is a brilliant, it's a genius movie. Also, I do want to say earlier, I said Bill Hader, but I meant Will Forte. I'm sorry that I confused them. He was out there a lot being very vocal about like, I think this movie's really good. This fucking sucks. Yes. Yeah.

Because he's, you know, one of the leads of it. And so he's been really championing this for years. And then he went bleep, bleep, bleep. Yep, and then they canceled that. Then they canceled it. We've been bleeped over it. No, we just, we've already bleeped toys. We're going to have to bleep that out there.

Yeah, yeah. We gotta go bleep, bleep, bleep. Sorry, April. But thank you, Jackie, because it's time for the list. Oh, who's on the list? Jackie, got to have that list. Celebrities who canceled their weddings at like the very last minute. I love this list.

And I always hate the list. I love you. I know you love this list. I like a canceled wedding. So, yeah, that's the thing. I love what does it call? on brides, maybe it's like wedding drama on

Reddit is like one of my favorite. All the wedding drama subredits are like some of my favorites. This is one that I think about too often. I know it's been on other list, but I'm going to bring it up again. Julia Roberts and Kiefer Sutherland was set to marry in June of 1991, but Julia called off the wedding just three days

before it was meant to take place. Do we know why? She, apparently that she was worried that Kiefer had cheated on her. And he probably had based on what we hear about him in the blends. Isn't he also like a big time drunk? Yeah.

Well, what is his thing? I think so. I know that there was always something in the world of Kiefer. But it is crazy that apparently on the date of the wedding, Julia was reportedly spotted having lunch with Jason Patrick, Kiefer Sutherland's best friend who was also meant to be the best man at the wedding. And then Julia and Jason dated for a brief time afterwards. My best friend's wedding, Jesus Christ.

It was so funny. It was just, who someone just, they confused another Julia Roberts movie and they thought that it was the, and I started talking about my best friend's wedding. That movie was nuts because I, I've seen that movie 100,000 times, and you always were pro Julia Roberts. Yes, and on a rewatch. Wait, did we have this shared experience? Did we watch it together?

Maybe we did. Where we realized, like, actually Cameron Diaz's character is like so nice. Nice. And not awful. And Julia Roberts hot piece of ass that she is just comes in with her belly shirts. And like she's the only person that could really properly wear the belly shirt. And she just, oh God, that Hunter Green man. That fit really did a lot of me.

I just remember loving that movie so much and not having any thoughts towards this. Or Cameron Diaz. Carriott's character got so fucked. She was like a nice person. But it's a great movie, great soundtrack, just throwing it out there. throw on my best friend's wedding again. But regarding Kiefer, just real quick, he's got drunk driving charges on his own.

He's a drunkie. He's a drunky, okay. He's a drunky, all right. Headbutted a fashion designer at a fundraiser, and that was back in 2009. And then just recently, January, 26, he was arrested in Hollywood after allegedly physically assaulting a ride-share driver. So he's got a lot going on.

Oh, a ride-share driver. Yeah, like an Uber guy. Yeah, go for it. Go for his keeper. So wait a second, Kiefer. You're in an Uber and then you're going to attack the, like... Okay, but to be fair, was the guy like, hey, remember 24 hours? Remember 24?

You're 24? You know, that's like... Maybe he called it 24 hours. Yeah, that's why you got to say. How dare you. It's not called 24 hours. You're thinking of the movie 48 hours. I'm in a TV show.

Call 24. Yeah, I guess if the Uber driver was talking like that, yeah, I guess you'd have to punch him, right? Or like 20 snore, right? Kiefer, he just starts using his fucking head as a fucking, I don't even know, I was always into him because the Three Musketeers, that was always my thing with Kiefer Sutherland. So, but I mean also in Oliver Platt. Anyway, Brad Pitt and Gwyneth Paltrow. God, I love Oliver Platt. He's so good. No blinds about him, right? Better not be. Never read them to me, MJ. I swear to God, if you read a fucking Oliver Platt

blind, either one of us. And you know he's hot in the blinds. He's always hot in the blinds. We're gonna do some kind of criminal act towards you. You say that like Oliver Platt is off of the map. He's in the bear. He's in one of the hottest shows. I'm not saying he's not. I love, no, I genuinely love him. I'm mad at MJ is all.

I haven't done anything. Well, you might. The possibility that you could. I forgot to bring up because Holden was angry with us because MJ and I have not made any of the recipes for murder. I was so mad about that. It's half the point of the book, MJ. Dude, I know.

I want to make the cool whip laying. You're a couple. Content creator. Making one of the damn recipes. Okay. All right. You're right. Okay.

I have to finish grad school first. And then I'm going to put... And then I'm going to put... So many layers of whipped cream. That's not whipped cream. It's cool whipped. It's going to be cool whip on top of a pudding, a dry pudding mix. And then on top of more...

It is such a sad mom book, right? Because they're just like reading this book. Plurial. Books. They're just reading this book and they're just like dumping these recipes. Dumpin. Dumpin. Datshally trying to ignore their food.

family while like servicing them at all times, right? With these recipes. I should want to throw this out there. This came up because MJ and I did a watch-along. It's going to come out in a couple of weeks from now. We did a full watch-along of the first murder she baked a chocolate chip cookie mystery. We had to research which one came first because there are so many murder-she-baked movies on Hallmark. And yes, we did record the full watch-along.

So we are going to pop that up on our Patreon so that you don't have to subscribe to Hallmark and forget about it like I am eventually going to do. Page 7ometer? What are we giving it? Well, Hannah Swenson, she's old and she's fat and she's going to be single forever. I just need a number. Out of what? But the tomatoometer is out of 100.

I would say, I'm going to say 87. I'm not giving it to 95, man. I enjoyed every minute. Oh my God. It's a Hallmark movie. It's a Hallmark before it's self-aware. It was 2015 before Hallmark was in on the joke. So it has everything.

It has a, it's, yeah, an actress who is like, she's a Hallmark Hot. So she's like, fine. But like everyone's just like, you fat ugly, you know. Yeah. It's great. I had a great time.

You fat ugly. Her mom every time she sees her is just like, oh my God, it's the big as the moon. But don't you miss being able to say these things to people? That's why we love Burger She knew. But don't worry. Not next week, the following week. We're going to get that at you.

I miss when someone would show up to work and be like, you look like a fat idiot. And everyone was fine. They'd be like, thank you. That's why I still work with you. That's why you still speak that way to me. I still speak that way to you. You can't speak that way to you.

It's been a live. Yeah. Brad and beat you over the head with a crow bar before you came in this morning. Talk about Brad Pitt and Gwen Paltrow. All right. Because they had been together for two years when their plan in 1997 wedding was meant to take place. But the pair broke up instead. Gwyneth, who is nine years younger than Brad, was only 22 when they met.

And leader said of the split, I was too young and didn't know what I was doing. And it is crazy because MJ and I read the Gwen Paltrow. We read the book about her life. And it really is the way she talked about Brad Pitt was just like, I was with him because he was Hollywood star. And that's why I don't even care. Sedated on pills the entire time.

That's the thing. I read that book a few months ago and I don't remember anything. Anything because God she's boring. Did she talk about the skiing? Not much. No, not much, really. I bet maybe that has something to do. I'm going to guess lawsuits.

I'm going to guess they couldn't really get into that a lot. But did you know, uh, usher, even though now on tour with Chris Brown? It astounds me. Talk about Michael. It's shocking to me. Because, and again, I want to remind everybody, like, look at his rap sheet. It wasn't just Rihanna, even though that's absolutely enough to end his career forever. It should have been.

And then he continued after that. that to be violent up to this day. Yes. He's had incidents. And he's had an incredibly successful career. People just adore Chris Brown. And also continues to be successful. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Still. Fucking mind blowing. I mean, at least like, because you also don't see him like on a Coachella or something like that either. It's like he does it in a very Louis C.K. way, I guess you could almost say. Like he's sort of like just still packing out stadiums, but weirdly flying under certain radars.

It's so, I just don't understand it. Well, Usher. is then pregnant partner Tamika Foster reportedly only decided to get married two weeks before their July 2007 Hampton's wedding was set to take place. But they called it off the day of allegedly because of Usher's mother,

Janetta Patton, who disapproved of her. And Usher from another mother. Yes, and I do kind of love, I know that like I wouldn't love it, you know, in my every day. But man, a mother coming in and throwing down the gauntlet of like, no, not going to. marry. I don't care if you're usher. I don't care. You're not going to marry her. And while, you know, I think a lot of people would probably say that's toxic, I think it's kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

and it looks like they did go on to get married and they eventually got married. And then they got divorced. Mom was right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That I feel like maybe she was picking up something and maybe it wasn't just that she hated the woman. But, you know, we're never going to know. Yeah. Oh, we're never going to know. But oh my gosh. of Margot's got money troubles, even though we're not at all, but there's a lot of wrestling talk in it. And it is, this show is great. I really like this show.

I was hearing mixed things, like, maybe some people liking it. Nick Offerman. I mean, it's, it's El Fanny, Nick Offerman, Michelle Pfeiffer. Oh, the cast is insane. Also, I saw, like, we're in, I think, like, the fifth episode, like, the episodes are currently coming out. I think that we saw a glimmer of a, of a still, that I think, and I don't want to look it up because I'm going to get there, but I don't know if it's this episode or the next episode.

I think Nicole Kidman is playing a wrestler. Yes, she's in it. I've seen the shot. I've seen the shot of her in the life. Yeah, still, I think, and I was like, I think that's a goal game. I think she's all a little video clip, but she looks hot as shit. Oh, I love. Did you guys already talk about the, because now we're getting finally only fans in like,

uh, like mainstream shows, right? Uh, with Margar's got money troubles, like the premise is largely predicated around right, her being. like deciding to become an only fan's content creator, right? So then you also have Euphoria Season 3. Have you guys talked about the Sydney Sweeney stuff? No, no. I think one of the things that really grinding my gears,

we don't have to talk about very long, is she does like a baby fetish thing as an only fan's creator, content creator, right? Oh, we've all seen the clips. I mean. So like, I think it was Sophie Rain, who's like this... Seen the pacifiers, yeah. Extremely successful.

Really clear in the only fan. like TOS, it completely forbids that kind of thing on OnlyFans. So I guess it just kind of pisses me off when you're going to make a thing about sex work and just completely like ignore or not even look into what the regulations. I mean, obviously they were going to do it anyway because Sam Levinson's going to do what he's going to fucking do. What's the idol song? You guys keep, we're always singing back in the day. All I remember was the coming noises after they.

Oh God. And I sing it all the. a time to myself. Well, hold on. Oh, what was it again? Oh, God. Sorry not to put you on the spot. By the way, you're about to mind fuck me right now because that song gets stuck in my head and I can't remember it anymore.

Oh, I hate it so much. I literally was dropped in my head like two days ago and I was singing it and nobody cared. That's how both memorable and forgettable the idol is. And we can't even Google it because you guys were doing it as an inside joke. So it's like, I don't, it's like, this is the thing where you need to Google an inside joke and Google doesn't know. Yeah, well, while she works on that, I just, I guess it just really pisses me off

It's like, okay, fine. And apparently they're handling it better on Margo has money problems, although I don't know, there's maybe a little bit of controversy around it when it comes to actual sex workers. I'm a freak yeah. And you know you want it bad. Oh. So you guys just fucked in the studio, recorded it and put it over the song, and now we're supposed to be like, think it's art. Yeah.

He just talked to me. No, wait, this is the part where he gives me lingy. But Jackie just, we just had this on a list because Axel Rose fucked somebody, fucked the drummer's girlfriend and then used that on a track. Oh my God, it's real. So maybe Sam Levinson drawing from. Wow. I don't know.

It just annoyed me with the baby things. It's like, I don't know. Because it was something that the terms of service of only fans would not allow that. And so to have it be a plot point just doesn't hold on. Just disregarding that. It kind of like just, you know, I think there's. been a lot of progression when it comes to like sex workers and you know uh kind of the us kind of treating it in a more respectful way or at least a little bit more of a realistic way of like what it is

and right and everything and then just to be like no they let they let grown-ass women pretend to be babies it's like no that's like so fucked up and gross and like that's really not i mean it's similar to like why the lash out of like a 50 shades of gray and how technically dangerous is is like about the world of kink. If you're not properly writing anything about the kink world, you're just, like, it is all about consent. It has nothing to, like, it is just, there's so much that media gets wrong because they think,

oh, what does it matter? Why? They're just sex workers who gives a shit thing. What are you talking about? No. You're edgy, degrossi. So let's be honest, it's a lot of kids watching this shit. You know what I mean?

Like, it's not made for grown-ass adults, even though I'm a grown-ass adult that normally watch it. I haven't watched season three. I feel like I will at some point. I've got a big flight coming up and I'm just like, I'm just going to absorb it all. You want that to be on a screen on your flight? I want to see if I make any friends on the fly.

It reminds me of my screen. It reminds me when that stripper movie with J-Lo came out. Oh, yeah. I just happened to be flying. I think we were touring is what it was. I happened to be flying a lot right around that time. And so just on multiple screens in the airplane, you just see like full off like strip scenes.

Hustlers. Yes, it was like one of them. main featured movie. So I was just looking around and be like, that, that person's just got tits on the screen. That person, like, there's children. Hell, yeah. Who's hard on the plane? Yeah.

And everyone just feeling so physically uncomfortable around their people they're sitting with like all over the airplane. Now, I was just, you know, just to round out this list and then we'll be moving right on to blinds, just because I brought up wrestling, Nikki Bella postponed her wedding to John Cena just weeks before it was meant to happen

in May 2018 due to different. desires around having kids. They briefly broke up before reuniting to work on their relationship. John reportedly agrees to have his vasisectomy reverse so they could try for children, but then the relationship ended up ending for good eventually anyway. Whoa. So it is that, you know, I'm just bringing this up because I'm just thinking about Nick Offerman.

And he's really in the ring in, like he's, oh my God. And he's going to be wrestling with Nick. Oh, can't. It looks good. Yeah, it looks fun. And he's such a, oh, and he's always, oh, God, he's a, he's a good man, but he's fun. Drink that milk from the bowl.

It's nothing to do with baby girl, but if it did, I would watch. And Nick Offer, I just did, like, I literally didn't think Nick Offerman could get any hotter. Yeah, yeah, you're getting off on him. Yeah, like, it's crazy. It really is crazy. Nick, I'm getting off on him. Yes. Well, Jackie, is that your list?

Yes. Well, that's great because I'm having some trouble. I couldn't even watch hustlers if I wanted to. I think I'm going. Wine! Items. Oh, we can see them! Our guy starred on a top-rated TV show for years,

and while his co-stars stayed in the spotlight... Bill Cosby. He chose to step away from the limelight. He still lives in Hollywood, but suffers from agoraphobia and refuses to leave the house unless absolutely necessary. Thanks to the show, he's financially set for life, but his loved ones are worried that he's going to become a Howard Hughes-like character and a complete recluse. He goes weeks without showering and spends his days playing video games and ordering in food. Sounds great.

That was me, editorializing. His loved ones are secretly planning an intervention. Oh, good. So he's happy and they're trying to make him sad. Got it. Go on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rip him away from the video games.

David Schwimmer. I'm sorry, my TV is talking. Oh, oh, no worries. David Schwimmer from Friends, right? I was going to guess him. Right? That or Matt LeBlanc, because I always feel like you're saying what I'm saying. How did that happen? Weird. What did your, what was your TV saying? The TV was reading the blind item that I just read. Weird. What? Oh, it has like a record feature. Not that I knew of. That's fucking weird. So your TV is listening to you. That's horrible. You should move the television from out of your bed. Yeah, I see a red dot on it every now and again too.

Oh my God, MJ. Yeah. Okay, okay. How is it reading what's off of your laptop, MJ? I think it was listening to my voice. Yeah, the voice. Listen, I'm scared. Okay, it wasn't David Schwimmer or Matt LeBlanc.

Let me finish the blind. His loved ones are secretly panning and eventually no longer attends family events either. Even one of his exes has agreed to help, which is shocking because their split was anything but cordial. Okay, go ahead, hold it. David Schwimmer or Matt LeBlanc? Matt LeBlanc. Wow. Wow.

Kind of figured it was one of them. Why do we both go to friends? Because at first I was like, well, MJ said leading man So that could be, I was thinking maybe It's probably not that because that's more of an ensemble. You have to think of somebody that is still getting enough residuals That they can remain,

Remain living off of it. And Friends is one of those huge shows that we all know They still make millions off of just the residuals every year. Like, maybe we would have guessed like Jason Alexander like If, but like that, I feel like that is not spoken up. Like I feel like even, and I wonder why. Do you think that it is because somewhere and this is, I'm just shooting from the hip,

Is it let somewhere in people's brains they think that like, oh, well, Seinfeld deserved the money they got for being like a groundbreaking genius show and Friends didn't even know technically. Right. That's just a, that's. The cast of Friends money that they made was like a huge topic in pop culture. And it was. It was every. Because they all like fought to get the same. To get more.

Yes. And so it was just such a big story. And that really never was the case with Seinfeld, you know. I wonder why do you think it's because Do you think that Jerry Seinfeld got more money than the other ones? Because like when he was in his 30s, he was picking up his girlfriend from high school.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. You know, he was putting his underage girlfriends in cars, not just comedians. But, you know, I don't know. But that's crazy and that's sad for him. And I'm sorry, Matt LeBlanc. And, you know, I try not to choose blinds that are just like, this is just a sad story.

But today, this was one of the least set. ones. Wow. Okay. And by the way, I'm sure if they feel it's that big of a problem, it really is a problem. I hate to be like that. Oh yeah, no, I'm sure. I hate to be that annoying addict enabler by being like, oh, it sounds like you's living the life. Like, I'm sure it goes deeper than that. But it doesn't. It, as a, as a very active father, husband's, uh, job. Oh, you dream of it. Job worker person. When you describe a person who gets to just order it and play video games all day. I will say this, though, I do kind of do that when my wife and daughter leave town like they did recently for a week and a half.

And after one week, it really starts to get both weird and sad. Yeah, because if there ever comes a point that Lexi and Winnie leave for good, we probably would have that in integration. It gets to a point. Very quickly, it turns into sad. So, yeah, I get it. Sad dad jazz is going to have a jacket. Do it for three days. Do it for three days.

I've been living in the world of the comeback, too. And so I also have been thinking a lot about friends because Lisa Kudrow's character in the comeback is, you know, very similar. Yeah, I need to watch that. I never saw the first season. Bro, you will love it. I know, I need to watch it. I know it's so good. She is just so good.

I like awkward comedy. I like awkward, you know, British office and whatnot. Blind number two. This illiterate actor is saying all the right things about his wife, but he isn't even living with her. So what do all the words really mean? It's not, couldn't be Tim Burton. anymore because they broke up, right? Oh, it's alliterative to

Tim Tebow. It's not Tim Tebow. Did you pull that from when we were in Tallah? See, like, who gives a shit? An alliteration with someone with a team. What are you? Where did that come from? What is it called?

Let's just start naming names and alliterative last names. Michael. This couple has been in the news, in the celebrity news, quite a lot over the past few years. I would say they used to be a bit of a knit couple. They have really fallen from grace. And people might say that it's her fault. Those people might be partially right and also might be being huge assholes.

Oh, no. Wait. She's the illiterative or the... No, he's the elitrative. She's the one who a lot of people think sucks. Damn it, because it's Michael, but it can't be that. I know. That's why I mean it that.

And then I thought Dax Shepherd obviously can't be that. Ryan Reynolds. Yes. Oh, that makes so much sense. They're not living together. And everything that, like, after the whole Baldoni case fell through, which it wasn't on her. It was, it just happened to be just because of, like, her producer credits. Like, it all fell through.

And Ryan Reynolds was, like, barely saying anything. And finally, he just, like, came out with just like, she's brave. And she is my wife. Gun to his head kind of statement. Yeah, it was one of those. So I was wondering why that was happening. But I don't think the kids are fully grown yet. No, they have like four young kids.

Yeah, right? I feel, yeah, I mean, I feel bad because everyone obviously was just like, Blake Lise is a bitch. And then it like, yeah, like, I feel like Ryan Reynolds got dragged into it because he had like been a producer and everything. And it just, it's really like it's. Well, he rewrote some of the scenes. It's hard, though, because all, everything we're talking about is based on PR smear campaigns that have gotten so good. Yes.

And so you don't even know what's real anymore. We have no idea what's actually real. They pay the internet now and they do it from like, the ground up. Yeah. And the Blake. The Blake lively thing was bot driven. Just like the Chaparone thing was bot driven.

And it feels like a grassroots thing. Oh, I'm actually glad to saying it didn't. I'm sorry we even speculated that she had any part in that because it was so even obvious back then that this was fucking bullshit. And I feel like bad that we even went like, well, if she is, I'm not, I think that I think that she can be any boundaries she wants. And I want her to be more of a bitch. I want to be more of a bitch.

And people are awful to her for. a million unfair reasons and all of that. I saw this online and I agree with it. If we keep this shit up, she's going to fucking quit and you're not going to get any more fucking music out of her. She's going to stop. We can just stop over at the Olivia Rodriguez song. I was a little hurt.

You betrayed me. Why? Because it just sounds so chapeless. It just sounds so... It's the same producer. It is a good song. It's the same producer they've always had, I believe, that producer. That's not like she was like, I need Chappell's producer. Like they've been connected for a while. It's just this specific so. But you

I'm excited for the rest of the album. I'm not judging the rest of the album. I'm not judging the rest of the album. I love you, Olivia. You're being a real Dax Shepherd right now. I am not unless I'm going to start openly threatening you via anniversary of course. To be a real Daxe right now?

I'll start threatening you. Do you imagine if your name was Dax? I mean, his life's great, so whatever. Is that what his problem is? No. Wait, have we not examined how stupid anyways? Everybody loved it back then. Okay, final blind.

The reality family wants to drag. This is a bit of a contingent. from a blind I read a couple of weeks ago. Jackie, you remember it? I don't think you were here. Is it short for Daxton? I looked up what Dax is short for and it said, Hey, this is AI.

AI says, Dax is a common name. Is it commonly short form of Daxon? Is that true? That's AI slap, right? Yeah, that's true. Right? I know there's Jackstons and Paxton's, but there's no way there's a Daxon. There's no Daxon.

Daxons, please call out. We're going to get an email from somebody named Daxton. Sorry, Dexton. Sorry, Dexton. This is a follow-up blend. The reality family wants to drag the awful pay cable actor into their world. They are doing everything possible. He will regret it because the bad things you know about are not even close to the worst things he has done.

Everyone will start digging. Whoa. Okay, so I talked about this blind because a couple of weeks ago, after the Oscars, there was an event, There was a blind that was like, this family wants to drag this guy into their orbit, but he was resisting and he's running because he doesn't want any part of it. And now it's the different, they're singing a different song. They're trying to drag him in still. And now this blind says, oh, well, if he, if his profile rises, we're going to find out more bad things about him. Wait, it's the Kardashians trying to pull him in.

And it's not timid that. It's not being wrong. No, no, I forget who it was. It was, oh, I remember who this is. Were you here when we did this last one? Was it via Kylie? It is via Kendall. Kylie, I don't remember.

No, not by Uncle Be Jordan. I remember Michael B. Jordan there was something about like, a Kardashian making a pass in him and him being like, fucking nope. No. You're not going to ruin another black man's life. This actor has had a big year. He's on a show that we were just talking about a few minutes ago.

Apparently he's got a lot of skeletons in his closet, but he didn't. He played a monster. The week. Oh, Jacob Alluredy. Jacob All right. I forget. Our big softy.

Our big softy bear. Yes. Well, not according to this blind. He will regret it because the bad things you know about are not even close to the worst things he has done. Yeah, sure. I bet he's pissed on a, like a, like a dead woman or something. Don't. I'm sure that's fine.

Save that for the Sydney's Sweenies. I feel like that's what she's doing. Okay. Yeah. She's pissed on dead. Put it on Jacob All right. They all are. You know I'm going to eat my hat.

I'm going to eat the fucking Yamika and Star Wars the second prequel. I know it because I feel like all and everyone's going to be like, Jackie, you were wrong. Why did you like this sim, this gender giant? I now need to rewatch the first, I need to actually go track the racial stereotypes. Because I know you got the one guy in the spaceship at the end of what the first one that's got an Asian thing going on. Are you asking me about Star Wars because I don't know. So I'm just trying to think of the problem. help you.

You're going off back. Okay. Apparently Jacob Lurdy was accused. This is from Fomois two years ago. He was accused of, I'm sorry, I'm laughing. She brought up the Yonika. She brought up the Yonika. Jacob Alorne was accused of grabbing a reporter's throat when he was asked a question

that he didn't like about salt. Oh, yeah. And I'm sorry, that's not funny, but it is. It's kind of, oh, my God. It's betrayed me. Not for the reporter. Yeah, it's not awesome or whatever. Holden's nice.

Don't you dare insult salt. burn, you know, that's kind of... Yeah, yeah, for sure. Where's my fucking snack? He couldn't get to crafty. That's what it was. I could... I think Holden's talking to you.

I can see. Yeah, yeah. So, uh, you gotta get... I have no snack of my fucking hand, Jackie. Where's my snack? He's ready for a snack. I want my fucking... All I do the show for is the snack.

Is that... Is this what we've gotten to on page seven? Hey, up. All for the snackies. The what? The snackies. The what? The snackies, MJ. Oh, my God.

So, K shots to MGK. Ew, no shout out to MGK. It's time for the Jeky-Snacky song. I said MGK earlier. I was like, you're talking about me, MJK? Oh, you should be M-J-K. That's your new thing. That's your new thing.

That's your new thing. Oh, my God. You guys, I have another announcement. Because I'm a jokey transversing. MJK. M-J-K. You know, I'm not joking about being trans but I am joking and changing.

They're not joking about being trans and take that extremely seriously. But there's like eight asses. It's time for the Jackie Snaggy's theme song, please. Who's on the Snacky? No, that's not the theme song. It gets played. You have nothing to do with it.

Okay. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky girl. Snacky. I've been a snacky, snacky. Snacky. Is somebody gonna eat those chips? Is somebody gonna dip those dips? Is somebody gonna try those candies? I got seminar.

I say I'm a snack lead. Now, I did bring, it's not Jakey Slakies, though. I did bring in a drink for you because I wanted you to try it. Now, this is, there's a lot of, a lot of names in this, Holden. So go with me. This is a Dr. Pepper, creamy coconut, zero sugar. How do you feel about the world of coconut? I'm going to be honest.

It was like a coconut cake when I was a child that I was extremely upset by. Not a big coconut guy. I feel like it's all different with coconut water, though. I'm talking about more of those coconut flakes. Yeah, I like those flakes. Yeah, I've never been a big coconut guy, but I don't think that's necessarily going to harm the chances of this, me enjoying this, because I don't think it's going to throw me too bad as part of the flavor.

I was genuinely more curious because Dr. Pepper is such a specific flavor that I was wondering if you're going to be able to taste the Dr. Pepper over the coconut or if it's going to be too much, too coconut forward. Often, often, they overshadow. They're artificial flavoring overshadows. So that's why, because I kind of feel that way about some of the other Dr. Peppers. I think there was like a blackberry doctor's pepper that I was like, all right, you're really trying with this. But I was curious. So let's dig in.

Yeah. I feel like back of the day there was a diet cherry vanilla Dr. Pepper. and I was like, isn't cherry and vanilla kind of already the flavor of Dr. Pepper? No. No. No. Yeah, it's coconut. I'm not a big coconut guy, so.

Hold up that can for me, Holden. Give me a hold. Wait, you have to show me the can, though. It's part of it. Pose. He's posing. He's posing. Work.

And he looks sad. Yeah, because I'm, I'm... Why are you saying? I don't know if I'm that sad. I guess it's too coconut-y? I'm just sad. because I thought you knew me better. Wow.

You were looking forward to a Dr. Pepper. I'm more sad about our friendship. Well, this is not all I brought. Okay, because it made me sad about our friendship a little bit, because I thought you knew that about me that I'm not a big coconut guy. Well, this is all I had. I know you're more of a savory person.

My problem is that I didn't have anything savory. I like sweets. That's good because you're getting sweets. Great. I want sweets. I'm cool with sweets. Well, these sweets are coming in. These are sent in from Moira.

Oh, I know it's not Moira Rose, but I do want to say thank you so much. Moira. And Moira said, I know you were talking about regional snackies a while back, and I have the perfect snack for you. I do part-time social media and design work at a tiny cooperative bakery in Windsor, Vermont, called Covered Bridge Cookies. With four worker members, we produce about 4,000 boxes of cookies a month, which are distributed all over New England. One of our most popular cookies is called a hermit. I'm originally from Indiana, and I'd never heard of a hermit cookie until I moved to Vermont.

Hermits are a colonial era soft spice cookie made with cinnamon, allspice, clove, raisins, and molasses. I hope you love them as much as I do. Oh, that sounds good. And I'm very excited, but also Moira did send in Maple Shortbread cookies,

and you did say that I should share them with the rest of the LPN crew. And I'm worried after I opened them today. I might not, because you say Maple Shortbread, I say how fucking high, dude. I'm looking at this website right now and it looks fucking delicious. That reminded me of the...

I love... I love a small company. Thank you so much. The name, Moira, of course, reminds me of Moira Rose, as you mentioned. And I do want to give a shout out to Dan Levy recently did Coneon O'Brien's podcast. And they talked about Catherine O'Hara. And he spoke... Oh, yeah.

And he just spoke so eloquently and passionately and beautifully about his, you know, relationship with her and how much, you know, of an impact. And just all the things you ever wanted to hear about. about her as a person, just reconfirmed by someone and how big of a loss it was. Holden's Hermits. Thank you. It's Olden's Hermits. And it was fun because earlier I said Holden's Hermits and I said to Adam, you know, it's

crazy. I was making like a joke in my mouth making it about Hogan's heroes. But I don't know anything about Hogan's heroes. And then Adam continued to tell me horrible things about Hogan's heroes. So if you want to go down a warm time of. Some horrible stories. You can just check out Hogan's Heroes, but let me try out this hermit. Delicious.

I love this. Horrible because, oh, yeah, Colonel Klink. I learned about Hogan's Heroes via The Simpsons because that's how I learned about everything. There you go. And I smiled for that picture, Moira, because I love this. Thank you. Oh, that's good. You were sad for the Dr. Pepper, but smiling for the...

Delicious. Small business cookies. Yep. I'm interesting that it's like a colonialist recipe. Oh my God. And it's so delicious. Honestly, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say this, Moira.

At first, the description, I was like, oh, no, what if I don't like it? What if this is not my thing? And yet, I don't know why I thought that because I'm a chai baby. And I love all of these spices. I think that it scares me whenever, you know, I'm going to confess. It scares me when there are raisins in a cookie and there's no chocolate. It scares me that I might not like it. cinnamon.

This is so soft and delicious and good. Definitely please check out covered bridge cookies because I'm assuming, MJ, if you're looking at them, then we can buy them online. You can. And they look really. Yeah, Moira, these were so good. These were so good. And what I wish for you is if you are into men and sexually active that you find some

incredible pound machine that just takes you to town. Moira, I want you to know that wasn't from me, but I guess I do hope. that you go to Poundtown if that is your wish. If that's your want. And I do want to say thank you so much, Moira. Thank you. Thank you for sending in a snackie. And you can send in your own snackies to Jackie Snackies 4804 Laurel Canyon Boulevard number 378, North Hollywood, California, 9-1607. And I would love to bring them in. And also, if you want me to save something for a specific person, let me know. I can do that too. Thank you so much. If you want Jackie to save it for what Holden's on the show and then he can wish you a trip to pound town.

Bless you with that. Yeah. And MJ has brought computer paper. Interesting. So let's see what MJ thinks about the computer paper that they brought. I have a snack as well. And I'll bet you'll be jealous, holding, because it's savory. Because my snacks are almost always savory.

All right, there goes, let's do the MJ's minute Munchy's song that you can't hear. Hello spicy, hello crunch, it's MJ's. Mama Mama, Mama, mini-munch. Hello, Jill, you're my wild grill. It's M-Majer's. Mama, mama, mitty munch, mini munch, mini munch. So are you also a preference for savory as well, MJ? I am generally going to choose.

If I'm having a treat, I want it to be savory. But I do, that said, I like, I very much enjoy chocolate, and I very much enjoy chewy fruity. It's also a time of day thing. I'm more of a, you know, at night sweets, like, person. Honestly, same for me. I do drastically, it's... Yeah, fascinating, too, that I realize how...

Especially with sweets, that, like, this is a delicious cookie, but I can actively put it down. If I were at home and I were smoking my weeds, I just like, oh, yeah, and then, like, I look down and I'm like, oh, no, all the hummus. Cool. Yes. My mom heard the person, the page seven listener who sent Betty Janes, which is the wonderful candy shop from Dubuque, Iowa.

Yes. My mom heard that somebody had sent you Betty Janes. My mom ordered Betty Janes for me because that's so good. And then my husband discovered how good they are. And then he ate all my Betty Janes. And so now he needs to order more. You need more Betty Jane. He needs to order more Betty Jains.

But not today. Today I'm eating Doritos Golden Sri Racha. Ooh, it's like a golden ticket. Sri Racha. Surracha. Sri Racha. Some people say it. There's different ways of saying it.

Did people say Sri Racha? I don't think so, but it was funny because... Don't think so, MJ, I need you to know that the other day, Jeff said queso, and then he was like, he was said, I did it. He's like, I do that for MJ. And I forgot, I don't know how I put it off in my brain that you say queso. I say things wrong on purpose and then people think I'm serious. I see Ronde view. And people are like, it's pronounced Ronde.

Rundee food. I know. Amber Nelson says melee, like melee, like, you know, fighting with like a knife or whatever, melee. She says it like, Malay. And it makes me both insane and I love it at the same time. Because it's like making, it almost makes it like fancy. Like, I'm going to try some Malay.

Melady. MJ, why do you hold up that? Regarding place. So, the other thing is the problem with being a long time comedian is that oftentimes I'm referencing a joke that was in a sketch from 2008, you know, and nobody knows what I'm referencing. Also, MJ, you always look so upset when I take pictures of you. It's because I take them while you're talking and it's my fault.

So let me take one of just an actual one. I'm posing. I'm cute. I'm happy. And the TV. You have to stop talking, though. You have to stop talking. It's a podcast.

Stop talking. Stop talking. Stop talking. I have to take a picture. All right. It's counterintuitive to stop talking. on a podcast. These are great. I don't know why it's golden saracha. I've never seen golden saracha. Dude, I also have no idea why, and I don't know, and please come at, because I don't really, I genuinely don't know that is it like, because it's like a different kind of

pepper, like is there, I didn't know specifically, like, I've had like specific hot sauce, like, I love Scotch Bonnet hot sauce. I love different, like, I do love, that's why I don't know anything about the phrase golden saracha, but I've had, but I've had, had the golden saracha Doritos before, and they fuck. They've got good flavor on them, but in my head, I wouldn't say, oh, that's a saracha flavor. Yeah, it doesn't really sing saracha, and I don't know what golden saracha is. Saracha, it's got to be tough to translate to like a powder in that way.

I don't know why, but it is, it's kind of... I guess it is just inspired by yellow and green saracha sauces. Interesting. I haven't seen those, but yeah, the only information I'm getting about this flavor is on the back that it says this bold twist on saratra is pure gold so i don't know what that means like and it is flavor profile but it's delicious it is also fascinating over the weekend we were playing d and d and i got the the naked dorido chips because they they are now which oh thank you guys they now sell some chips that you can spend like four more dollars for for the same bag for less

chips and they keep out all of the artificial dyes that you don't need oh please And so you can pay more money and then they're like, see, and you can get some of it without all the toxic stuff in it. But don't worry, they keep the toxic stuff in some of them, even though it tastes exactly the same. But it's crazy because it's not bright orange. Okay. And it is just like a regular tortilla chip. Yeah. And it was delicious.

Cool. Yeah, yeah, I think that would be disorienting. But yeah, you know, I've never met a flavor of Dorito that I don't want to eat again immediately. So, yeah, I recommend these. They're great. I really am. I'm a Dorito ho. They're so good.

It is, I guess, DeRee Ho. You're a Dorita. But Holden, you only like the nacho cheese, though, right? I feel like I've tried to give you Coor Ranch before. I'm very basic when it comes to chips in a lot of ways. Like, barbecue, sure, but usually, like, I'm a sea salt bitch. Interesting. I'm a Ruffles with Ridges bitch.

And, yeah, just the default. I don't think it ever gets better than that default. D's flavor for me personally. Like, I just know what I like, you know? Yeah. I'm the opposite of my wife. My wife goes to a restaurant. We've been eating at for forever.

She's going to order something different every single time. She wants to experiment. She wants to play around, you know. She wants to have some fun in the restaurant and the bedroom. It's only fun. Yeah, no, it's only in the bathroom and at this one restaurant. Yeah. But for me, I go in.

I get that same sandwich every time. I love to just, like, want something so bad and get it every, single time. That is what I like. When I go to Taco Bell, it's blasph for me for pretty much everybody who normally order to talk about. He kills me. I get three soft tacos with beef. That's it. That's it. I think this is a neurotat. And a Coke. I think it is a yes. I believe. Oh, oh, is it that? Is everything, you tell me my wife for that. Everything's a diagnosis. Everything's a diagnosis. Some people, some neurotypes seek novelty and adventure and some seek routine and some seek both. And then you have to figure out which part of the is seeking one.

today. Well, I like to, let's say, okay, but I'm also not the kind of person who wants to play the exact same video game for the rest of their life. Right. There are people who just play Fortnite, just play League of Legends. Right. And I, that baffles me. I'm like, the way most people like order from Taco Bell, I play video games. I want new experiences. I want to play, like, I love to. And I go to Taco Bell for my experience. I love to start to you. And then we watch the same shows over and over. I think I've just been burned. Nothing bums me out more, like playing a shitty video game and falling off of it is one thing. Going, being hungry and going somewhere and like taking a swing and being severely

disappointed by the result is so fucking disappointing to me. Oh my God. That or God help you order food and you don't get the right food and you're just in the bad and you're like so hungry. And then you get it. You're just like, ah! Yeah. It's not even the same.

When it comes to food, I'm pretty quick when I go, I like going to new restaurants and stuff, but I'm pretty quick to find. the thing I like the most. And I try to experiment. But I just, nothing's more enjoyable to me than being like, I crave this very specific sandwich from this very specific place and then getting it and eating it. I love this. I love this for you because my neurotype is that I want to do that also, but then I get

the same thing and I shame myself and I say, should have tried something new. What's wrong with you? No. You always get the same thing. You have food foam. Yeah. Yeah. So shame is my neurotype.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. It's all the shame. It's all the Catholic guilt. Just, MJ, just remember MJ. Remember this scenario.

This happens, I want to say about 70% of the time I go out to eat with my wife. I get this. 70%. Wow. You know what? I'll be more generous. 50%. I'll give her a little bit more.

Okay. I will get this thing I know is going to be good that I absolutely for sure is going to be good. She gets squid eyeballs. And then immediately is like, oh. And then she's eating off my plate, which I'm completely. fine with, but I just laugh and I go, why wouldn't you just get the thing you know is going, the thing they can't fuck up? You know what I mean?

Say to that, boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. Sounds like a boring husband's response. Hey, and it took me forever, too, to get into stuff that I should have been into for forever, like sushi and stuff, right? It took me a really long time because of this kind of thing. But we all get around to it eventually, and I'm proud of you for trying new things. This is good.

This is growth, guys. It's why we have Jackie Snackies and MJ's Minute Munchies. And we thank you so much. And Holden, I know that you do it all for the Snackies. What? Thank you. I won't continue. But I want to say thank you for showing up here today.

What? What? And MJ, thank you for showing up here today because I had a wonderful episode. Me too. I love it when you're here, Jackie. And I love it when Holden's here. I love it. And when I'm here.

No, that's grunky. I don't know. Honestly, I'd watch a Gronky biopic faster than I'd watch the micro-competic. So, thank you. Unless I'm honest about the sexual assault. And you're honest about how much you love your butthole. But thank you

so much, Gronke, for making just the tiniest of appearances. Holden, where can we find you? All right, here it is. One more time. I showed you, and I leave. Okay. Thank you. One more butthole. Bye, Gronkey. Please check out. I think my number one, I want you guys to check out is... What's your number one? What's the number

one. HGX2 on LPNTV. Please check that out. Give it some views. People seem to be enjoying it quite a bit. And it's a show that just gets better as it goes on.

Jackie is in the first episode as well. So please again check out. Oh, interesting. So it gets better as it goes on. But I'm in the first episode. You're in the first episode. You're in the first episode. You're also in the, it gets better.

Very interesting. It gets better. Jackie's the kind of guest on a show that's like when you're gay in high school. right? It just gets better. Yeah, later in the season. Much later. It gets better.

You're in it. You're in the whole throughout it. Anyways, Jagu's in the first episode. But skip that one. Maybe jump to the later. Yeah, yeah. But I am in a later one too. So.

And yeah, nerd of mouth, of course. Hold Nader's Ho on Twitch. Thank you so much. And congratulations, Bloodbath. Episode one, season one, just did 100K. Season 2. Yeah. No, season 1.

Just hit 100K views. So please, Audrey gave you. Please keep watching. Please keep watching Bloodbath season one. And as we are currently filming Bloodbath season two. So, enjoy that. We are going, we're looking forward

to all of it. And also, don't worry, every Friday you can find Holden and I, and we're usually jacking over on Twitch.tv forward slash Holdenators Ho. But this Friday, and we're also going to have off a couple Fridays, I guess. So you're going to have to circle back to us and come find us.

I am going to be streaming in the next couple weeks, honestly, in the next months, because I'm working on the video game that I'm writing this cryptid fuck game, and we're hopefully going to be working out kinks and talking about stuff. Jeff and I are working on this game together. So we're going to start streaming together.

So go on over to twitch.tv forward slash, oh no, it's Jackie. That's all one word. And give it a follow so that you can find out when we go live. again, that is Twitch.TV forward slash, oh, no, it's Jackie. And I will be over there streaming a bunch more. And I think, I don't know.

That's definitely going to be where we play the demo of our game for the first time. And, but definitely, if you want input on the cryptid fuck game, get on over my Instagram, Jack That Worm, hit the link in my bio, and go on over to the Discord channel because I'm popping all of every picture I get, version I get right on over there because I want to hear from you guys because I know I'm not the only one that wants to kiss a cryptid. MJ. Thank you guys so much for being part of our Patreon. Patreon.com slash page seven podcast.

We love you guys over there. We are having such a good time with Desperer Housewives and with Buffy and with Jackie's book club. And always thank you for your emails. I have not been able to respond to many of them because of aforementioned grad school and all the crying. but we do read them. You guys are wonderful. And we love you so much. And Holden more than anything, we love you.

Thank you for coming back. We love you. We're rooting for you. You're almost done. Almost done. We're almost done. Three more weeks. You got this.

You're going to kill it, dude. Thank you. And we will see everybody tomorrow for Second Helpins. Second Helpins. Talk to you guys soon. Bye. Bye. This show is made possible by listeners like you.

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