Page 7 - Second Helpings - Bone It Out!

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

This week MJ and Jackie are joined by producer Adams new pupperino, and despite his cuteness they still manage to bring you Second Helpin's! MJ thinks they might watch the new Charlie Sheen produced Charlie Sheen documentary, Jackie gives her feedback on KPOP DEMON HUNTERS, the Rapture happened apparently, but no one was saved, and MJ finally watched Thunderbolts and very much recommends it! Monster Fuckers rejoice! The trailer for The Bride has dropped and Jackie feels SEEN, Harry Styles ran the Berlin marathon under a secret name and sets a good time, but it just makes MJ and Jackie think of Holden's bloody nipz. There's a cute Martin Short story but it's also a bit creepy cause lip readers are the only reason we know about it, a man trying to serve T Swift papers in the Justin Baldoni trial got ARRESTED for criminal trespass at Kelce's place and of course, Hilaria is SO brave and misunderstood, and you can hear more about it on her podcast she's dropping with her 11 year old! Violet Affleck spoke at the UN about Covid, and GOOD FOR THEM!!! MJ is pumped for the new Priscilla Presley memoir, and Mariah Carey was asked on CBS Good Morning with Gayle King about how she and her kids navigate coparenting with Cannon since he's got so many damn kids, and even more on this Second Helpings!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The second time. Uh-oh, hopefully I'm not scaring all the pups in the room. And I'm not talking about your pups at home, but also I have heard that maybe some dogs, they either love my voice or they hate my voice. Boo seems to be fine with my voice. And I am talking about producer Adams' new baby is in the studio, and I'm just losing my mind because he has got a little tongue. And I want to hold him.

I want him to be on the show. show. Boo, do you want to be my ghost? No, all right. Well, he doesn't. He wants to continue sitting on Adam's lap. And that is fine. We are doing a show here. We're not just talking to a dog, MJ. We're not going to just be looking at the dog. Now I'm going to be embarrassed because Adam's baby dog is going to probably do better than my babies did because, you know, this is a family-friendly network. I was always allowed to bring my new babies to record as well. But they did not always comply. with sitting quietly as a podcast needs.

And I'm very impressed with Boo already. You're doing great, boo. And you're welcome to weigh in. Yes. You know, if you want to weigh out on who you think should have been eliminated or, yes, I'm talking about dancing with the stars, but we don't have to get there yet. Or, you know, how you feel about the new bride trailer or whatever, you know. Oh, yeah.

We need opinions around here. We need a different person or animals description of life. And I feel like we're not asking them enough, you know. Can't we just live in the dog's world? Yeah, does it all harken back to Grizzly men? Maybe. And did I also watch Wings of Hope, which chat told me to watch, which was another Werner Herzog about the woman, the only person that survived this plane crash, and she survived

in the jungles for a really long time. And, man, Werner Herzog was supposed to be on that flight and didn't get on that flight. And then, of course, he did a documentary about it. I am reading the description of this. I think that's a pretty good for her own her song. Thank you. I can tell you right now I am not emotionally strong enough to watch this movie. Really?

And that's just true of many. But she lived. Well, that's nice. I mean, her mom was torn asunder right next to her. But you know, she lived. Yeah, no, I can't. Nope. I mean, I know I need to be strong so that I can see.

movies that are of cultural import. But am I strong? No. Yes, you are. You're strong in many other ways. And that's why we love you. You know, sometimes we have to buoy each other when our strengths get withered. And that's why I watch these shows for us.

So you're welcome. I have been thinking about, I think that maybe by next week I will I will dip my toe in the Charlie Sheen documentary just out of curiosity. curiosity. That's strength. It's just that he produced it. Like, he was a part of the making of it. So I don't trust anything that is like, like, I feel like it's not done. I'm like, this is just Charlie's scene being like me a cool, but not really. I think the fact that he produced it is the main thing that's giving it, you know, that's giving it. Because I am, you know, I'm, I like documentaries about pop culture. Like, I love that stuff. And I'm not going to like not watch a movie just because I don't like the subject of it. You know, the main character or whatever. So yeah, I'm like, I'm curious. But the fact that he produced it is, it's like the peewey documentary.

Like, you know, like Paul Rubin's, I'm not saying it's like that in a bad way. I'm saying in that, in the Paul Rubin's documentary, there's so much exploration of like, can, can I be part of the making of this documentary? Can I be a neutral subject when the subject is me? And obviously the answer is no, which was such an interesting thing about the peewee documentary.

It was like, It was absolutely like amazing to see him argue with the filmmaker on camera about him being the subject of his own movie and him wanting to have agency over how he was presented. And yeah, I know that it's not exactly a comparable thing with Charlie Sheen. But I know that it is also dominating the cultural news cycle right now. And I can watch upsetting things. And we all have our different flavor of upsetting things we like to watch. Yes. What kind of upsetting have you been getting into?

Oh, you know me. I like a murder. Love a murder. Love a murder. Like just a small town murder. I will also say, someone's going to make me scared. Someone's been talking to me. Someone wrote in, and I had seen this, and I can't wait to watch it. Rebel Royals.

Someone told me to watch Rebel Royals, and I meant to tell you to also watch it. While I don't believe that it is a murder, it is apparently a really crazy story about Martha Louise of Norway. It's a princess and a like a. a charlatan shaman of sorts. So I haven't gotten into it, but I'm going to try and watch it for next week because apparently it's a fun story. And I can get into that because my problem

is that I haven't been able to be upset as of late. And I decided finally to sit and watch K-pop Demon Hunters. I was going to ask you if you would sit and watch it. I was actually going to suggest that you do it before Jake come on so that we could talk about it with him because I also know Jake watched it. Wow. I'm so happy to hear this, Jackie. It's everything, everybody told me that it was going to be.

And as someone that I love K-pop and my husband doesn't really, like, it's not that he's like, I respected, it's just not really my thing, which I completely understand. But he also loved it. It is a great, it's very well-written. Oh, my God, also a beautiful movie. The animation, I guess it's from the creators of Into the Spider-Verse, which makes sense. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's like the anime.

or I don't know if it's just the production studios. I'm not sure exactly, but I know that they had something to do with it. And it was so beautiful. The music was so good. And I will throw it out to chat on our Jack and Chat every Friday. They have been playing the K-pop Demon Hunter songs since K-pop Demon Hunter came out. And so I already knew a lot of the music and it made me love it that much more. That was my journey into it was that we were listening to the soundtrack all the time.

And the kids were watching it. I'm usually, if my kids are watching something, I'm usually trying to use that precious time to do something else. Anywhere else. Yeah. And so, you know, I had to, and I, everyone, so many people from page seven, the page seven community were messaging me and me like, you got to get on this, you got to get on this. And I was like, I love the album, but I just hadn't sat and watch it. My kids were like aggressively. They were like, they were like hunting down individual family members to make them sit down and watch it with them. And then, yeah, once I watched it, I was like, this is such. a good movie. I feel like, I know, I know that if I recommend this movie to, like, people who don't have kids, they're going to roll their eyes and be like, what, you want me to watch Frozen? You know, but I'm like, it is, no, it's not, I promise you. It is so good. You will enjoy it so much. You won't regret it. And the music slaps. Also, interesting that you said that because I think that someone had said to me, it's another Frozen. And in my head, I was like, I didn't

realize, I'm going to throw it out there, never even sat and watch Frozen. Because I was so annoyed by the let it go song because it played so often that I was like, no, I'm good, but I don't feel that way about K-pop Demon Hunter. I just like the music more and more every time I hear it. I'm going to read a post by a one Jake Young, who you might remember from yesterday's show. I remember him. Who wrote, sorry, boo. Oh, was that, that pitch wasn't a pitch that boo enjoyed. Oh, I'm sorry, boo. All right. So K-pop demon hunter, Jake wrote in August, K-pop demon hunters proves that Hollywood needs to tell more original stories like Skinny Girl with long braid and superpowers sings insanely catchy songs about not being held back by their shame

anymore, to which he put a side by side of Elsa and Rumi from K-Bel's Demon Hunters. However, I'm over here consuming absolutely every meme, every Instagram post and every Twitter thread or whatever thread about this movie. And even though I appreciate Jake's point, and I also, upon first watching K-pop Demon Hunters, I just screamed, it's like Elsa. because, you know, there is a lot of themes of don't let your shame silence you. And once you embrace who you truly are, only then can you reach the greatness that you are destined for and all of that. But K-pop Demon Hunters is just so much more. I read a fascinating thread this week about how the way that, you know, that they show the like the way that it explores like values of.

like collectivist society as opposed to individualistic society, like Western society tends to be more individualistic. Eastern society tend to be more collectivist and the like the collective need to protect. You know, and it's just like everything I've read about this, every like it's just such a interesting. It's doing so many interesting things. So it really is one of those that if you're rolling your eyes because it is so trendy, which it is very trendy,

but it's good. It's one of those ones that's trendy because it's good. It's very good. And also, the voice actors had to act in English, regardless of whether it was their first language or not. And they did such an insanely amazing job. Like, that's so crazy to me because oftentimes they would bring in somebody else to just do, they would just dub it over with an English actor. And I, I mean, that is so impressive in and of itself that just check it out. It is like an hour and a half long.

It's in and out. I will say... It's a new IP. I feel like that's, you know, there's so much kind of like nostalgia and so much rebooting old properties and so, you know, and Holden used to talk all the time about how like there's just, it's just Marvel and do you know. And so I think the idea that there's this like new IP that's doing something that's so different and interesting. And yes, again, it is, there is a little bit of Alistithy, but like it's, it is, I think that there's more to it than that. Like her figure, you know, Rumi's figuring out her relationship with the things that make her ashamed. and, you know, figuring out how to feel pride in, you know, in not just her own past, but in like the generational trauma of it. There's really, like, psychologists are interrogating this movie. It's deep, man, it's deep. It really is, except my only hang up was those girls never saw her without a shirt on. In all the years that they're performing together, as someone that, like, you know,

I'm going to speak for Adam. Adam sees me quick change all the fucking time. Like, I've worked in sketched with Adam for 100 million years, how often I'm just changing, not like in an aggressive way, but, you know, if I just got to go from costume to costume, then I was like, they've never seen it. Or they just, I guess really it is also the when you're not looking for it, then you don't see it kind of thing. I know she wouldn't go to the bathhouses with them, but at the same time, you're in dressing rooms with them all the time. It's like you and me when we were on tour and I would always ask permission to be topless in front of you. Yes. You would always grant that permission.

Yes. I was almost always topless in front of you if we were in the hotel room. And I would say you don't have to keep asking me. My consent is eternal. Take that fucking shirt off, dude. I don't give a fuck. I think it's great. I might have a bit of internalized trauma that my chest that I'm very proud of is upsetting to other people.

I understand. My kids keep asking me if my actually is kind of interesting, a little conversation. one of the kids asked, they've asked me, like, you know, about why I choose to use the bathrooms that I use and, like, why, you know, they asked me different questions about my gender. But recent, like, last week, one of them asked Gideon if I'm allowed to go outside without my shirt off. And Gideon was like, well, what do you guys think? And they had a really interesting little exploration. What did they think? They were like, well, one of them said, I don't think so because, and then she pointed and mimed the scars, the top surgery scars. And,

was like, I think these would seem like too different to people. And then what a Gideon say to that? What did he say? I think he kind of just let that, like, and then one of them was like, oh, I think that that mama can go outside without a shirt on because it seems like the rule is that you only have to wear a shirt if you have breasts. And like, he just kind of like let them. Wow.

Talk it out. Hell yeah. I think it's technically not. I think that in New York, there was this whole thing about this with the Times Square topless ladies that I think you. you're technically allowed to be, you know, I'm sure Gidee went into like the municipal code. Like, I'm technically allowed to be topless even if you do have breasts. But it was like, it was kind of the first little hint that they're like, you know, understanding A, that I'm

different gender wise and also B, that there can be like social consequences to that, you know? Right, right. And I don't, I don't go topless in public because I am worried it will upset people. And that's something I need to work through. That's my own. That's my own thing. But it's also, it's got to be so liberating but also scary to have those conversations because you also are like, I'm also trying to figure this out for myself. So it's got to be so interesting to hear their perspective and seeing it from their eyes and what they think that I love that you guys are just asking those open-ended questions to them to have them think about that.

Yeah. And what is the difference between having breasts and not having breath, like in the scheme of taking your shirt off? And it's like, but then the nipples, the nipples. Well, I think a lot of human beings have nipples. So, you know, there's also that conversation too. And I try to, I yell on stream often. I'm like, Henry can take off his shirt, but I can't take off my.

We both have Zabrowski nipples. And that's all right. I still keep my shirt on for now, but that's, maybe it'll change in the future. Maybe it'll change. You be the change you want to see. be the change. You got to show the nips more. Thank you.

And, you know, there's a lot of things that I wasn't surprised about this week. The fact that I have nipples, the fact that I didn't get taken by the rapture. I will throw it out there. Yeah, the rapture. Although, I was thinking about this this morning, kind of fun, because I feel like if the rapture did happen, it wouldn't affect my life. I feel like I wouldn't come in and find any piles of clothes. I think I would just be like, oh, it makes sense. we're all still here. Let's keep working. I mean, the sinners need content too.

Yeah. I was... We need more fun content. I was trying to figure this because I remember the 2012 end of the world that everyone was talking about back in 20... Because I was riding the subway every day back then and there were so many people on the subway telling us that the world was going to end. Yeah, and then this one, I'm just, you know, we all live in our little bubble, don't we? And everyone's talking about the various bubbles we're in. And I didn't even know the rapture was going to happen until Tuesday. And I think it was meant to happen Wednesday. It was all... Yeah, yeah. But it was also, it was between two days because we couldn't quite figure out which day it was. So, you know, it would have been any one of the hours in those days.

I accidentally manned the eye, it lingers. I because I also didn't know about rapture. And I didn't know the rapture was happening this week. And I saw it on, and I was watching it because it was like, oh, why is the rapture happening this week, huh? but then I got just the algorithm just kept me in rapture talk and these just these people just kept shot and I'm like I don't care I don't care I don't sorry boo sorry boo but honestly boo I'm glad you didn't get raptured either I don't want to find your collar on the floor because that would just be very sad because you're an angel and there's no way that those Christians wouldn't suck you up into the sky bubbles I think is what happened. so, you know, who knows? Or maybe they were trying to just be like,

oh, is it Russia Shata? No, it's our rapture. I don't know what was going on with it. All I know is that I don't think it happened and I guess I'm sorry. That it didn't happen. Because I think they kind of wanted it to happen this time around. I think they were like ready for this one.

The way you're describing it is reminding me a lot of the movie Thunderbolts, which I just watched. Did you watch Thunderbolts, the Marvel movie? You know, I'm going to be, I'm going to make this real weird and uncomfortable. I watched Thunderbolts the day my father died because I, someone had told me, remember that day, you're going to align this day with memories for the rest of your life.

And I didn't know what to do with myself. And Jeff's like, you want to go see Thunderbolts? It was like, The Marvel movie? Yeah, I guess. So I was all just like out of my head. And I just like, just like, so stoned. So I did sit in a movie theater and Thunderbolts did play in front of me. But that's the extent of what I remember from it.

But I remember David Harbors in it. I remember that. Yes, David Harbour is there. And every time I see him now, I think, huh, married to Lily Allen. And then I think about all the blinds and all the scandals. Yeah, and I don't know if they are still married to each other. I think they might be separated right now. Yeah, I think she was making a lot of feet money.

And then I think he was upset about that. But David Harbor is there. Florence Pugh is there. And that's a, yeah, from. me, dog. Man. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I was looking at the screen. You know, I wasn't not looking because if Florence Pugh is going to have, you know, I like it because she plays that like kind of, excuse me, but I believe a Ruski of sorts. And she, I like that she's always, she's got a good butt on her. I like that she's kind of jokey in it. Oh, yeah. I loved her in it. And yeah, it is. I will say it is one of those, like my experience with almost every time I watch a superhero movie, I begin the movie.

thinking, I don't really care about superhero movies. And then three quarters of the way threw up, like, it's such a good vehicle to make a broader point. I loved Thunderbolts. And I know that this is not breaking news because it did come out in May. But it just, I think somewhat recently went on to streaming. And it's, I do highly recommend it. It's really, really good.

And, yeah, it's not exactly a rapture movie. But the way that, like, the way that you're talking about just seeing piles of clothes, it's, okay, if you haven't seen Thunderbolts and you are, interested, the way I would elevator pitch it is that it is, it's like a move, it's a superhero movie where the question is like, what if depression was a super power or a super villain? And it's like, it really, it's so powerful. It's a really beautiful, but it, exactly, it's a really beautiful way of, of using like the idea of depression and despair and the power that it has in a superhero movie. And like, what if, what if, what if you,

hardest all of the force of depression. And yes, it actually would be the most powerful superhero. And it's, it's, I was quite moved by Thunderbolts actually the way that I did not expect. About the first, again, three-fourths, I was like, oh, we're fighting. We're swinging in the air, whatever. Like I don't, right, right. But then when it really got to the, to the meat of it, I was like, oh, this is gorgeous. This is like a really surprisingly beautiful superhero movie. You get sucked in sometimes, you know? And man, just while we're talking TV real quick, I did go see the long walk in the movie theater, which is based on the Stephen King novella.

And I'm going to throw it out there. I think the long walk might be one of my favorite Stephen King adaptations. It was very good. It was much better. I knew nothing about it. I just knew that it was based on a Stephen King. And I, and I'm saying this as a Stephen King lover. please don't come at me.

I'm just saying sometimes the adaptations are not always the best. And also sometimes the Stephen King novel is not always the best. I've read almost all of his books. I think it's fair to say that his work is not uniformly consistently good. Yes. Yes. And but I will watch all of it. I love Stephen King.

I am always going to get into it. But the long walk. So essentially it is about like they don't get too much. into the history of it, but essentially that it was something that happened in a war in the days past. And everyone is not like they, they quote unquote volunteer to do this walk, which is like the representation of this walk that happened during the war. And essentially what it is is they have like 50 or I forget how many it is, but like they have young people, young men. I'm assuming that it's just young men that are able to apply or that,

are forced to apply. And they are choosing in a lottery type system. And they have to walk for as long as possible. And they must maintain three miles per hour at all times or they get killed. And that's it. That's it. That's the movie. But it is starring, I keep calling Hoffboy. What's his name? Cooper Hoffman. Yeah, he's the boy of the Hoffman. Yes, Hoff Boy is in it. Man, Hoff Boy, everybody is fucking acting their asses off. I see Mark Hamill is there. Mark Hamill, which also is just a cartoonishly bad guy.

I mean, he is a Stephen King villain. He is bad. There's nothing morally gray about him. He's just bad. And you kind of love, like I kind of love the simplicity of these boys are good. That man is bad. And what is happening is bad to them. That's the thing.

And that's it. I feel like Stephen King is just like, I'm very good. I'm not saying all of his writing is formulae, but he does understand a formula. Yes. And he can be just very good at it. Oh, Cooper Hoffman is Philip Seymour Hoffman's son. That's why I'm calling him Hoffman. That's why he's a boy.

I didn't understand that that's why you were calling him Hoffman. But now I'm sorry. Yeah, I was, I sometimes, you know, I speak in Jacanese and then I short hand and sometimes I jump too far. I do see the resemblance though. Look. Yeah. And he is, he's a phenomenal actor.

Really? Really. Yes. Was it Lickrish Pizza you was also in? I liked Lickrish Pizza in No, There was, it was a weirder plot,

but I still was into Liquorice Pizza and I think a lot of people had issues with the plot, but I still liked it and Hoff Boy did a great fucking job. He did a great job, and also David Johnson is, I watched like the first

three episodes of Alien Earth, the new Alien TV show, and I did fall off of it, but David Johnson was very good in it playing, well, I guess I won't say anything about his character, but he was very good in it, and I'm glad that he's doing well.

And throwing it out there, if you are usually iffy about a Stephen King adaptation, very Stephen King, but also good, and it sticks the landing. Okay, excellent. I loved it a lot more than I thought I would, and honestly, I think I'd watch it again. Great.

That's great. I also love, I am a sucker for a Stephen King as well. I don't do, I have not read like the longy, longy longs as much, but I like the shorties especially. I like his short stories, the novellas, and I'll watch whatever adaptation for sure. Reading The Shining blew my mind when I was like 11. I should read The Shining. I've actually, it's my favorite horror movie, but I've never actually read it. Bro read The Shining.

It is, I feel that that is, it encapsulates being, I think there's something about reading it and being alone in your brain that really, man helps the isolation take hold, I feel like, easier. Like, I feel like it takes hold of your brain. Also, there are parts of the book that aren't in the movie. Obviously, Stanley Cooper took a lot, you know, of licenses with it. And I love the movie. But there are also certain parts of the book that I actually think have scarier moments than the movie. Yeah.

And you all know I'm talking about the hedge scene. You all know I'm talking about it. And I was terrified of it when I was young. And I imagine it would still hold the same kind of water. We have a very large copy of Stephen King's It on our bookshelf. It takes up so much space. And I always look at it. And I'm always like, I should tackle that.

I don't know if that's the one you should tackle. Okay. I'm going to throw that out there. I loved reading it. I'm saying this to you as a person who is in grad school, who also has two young children. Not going to happen. Not even that. It's just, breathe the shining.

It's shorter. and you'll read The Shrine. Okay. I'll tell you more about the book, It, and you might not want, you specifically might not want to read it. Okay. All right.

I'll... I'll just say that. Well, I'm going to leave it there. And for those of you that have read it, you know exactly what I'm talking about, and I just don't know if it would be your bag, but I would hope that something else might be your bag. Monster fuckers unite everywhere.

Alert, alert. The trailer for the bride has drawn. and I tell you, I feel seen, I feel validated, and I need more movies like this. Maggie Jalenhall, writer, director. I'm sorry, Yilingula. Yes, Ian Hore. Thank you for going to be saying. Yelian Holi.

Yeah. Oh, boo, like that too. All right, but you want me to start calling her Maggie Yigin-Wole. He likes it. It is a punk rock riff on. Is it a riff on bride of Frankenstein, right? Oh, yeah, baby. It is a riff on the bride of Frankenstein,

and it's like almost as if the bride is... Joker 2 failed so that hopefully the bride can do much better. The bride is, I feel, watching the trailer, is everything Joker 2 wished it could be, because essentially they are turning the bride and Frankenstein into like a Bonnie and Clyde type situation. and Jeff said this to me and I was like, baby, this is why we're together. He's like, man, if this had come out when I was like 14, this would have been my entire personality.

I was like, this is why we're married to each other. Fucking hard same. I would have been so in the paint for this movie because it is a sexy kind of like crime, kind of like. And just Maggie Jilling Hall, Yillin-Ule, is going to be directing Christian Bale as Frankenstein's monster. And then the sexy, sexy, oh God, what's her name? Jesse Buckley. Jesse Buckley. Jesse Buckley, who is in men, who is in a bunch of other, in Fargo, right?

She was also in the show in Fargo. Like, she is an amazing actress. She's playing the bride. Her and Christian Bell, which also, young me. But bbing, bing, bing, b, b, b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b. the amount Well, newsies. Wow, newsies.

Oh my little, for me it's also little women. Lori is in little women. Like that, that version of Christian Bale forever lives firmly in my heart. And watching him as Frankenstein, you know, not being able to stop from killing when people are coming at his bride. So which monster you want to fuck both? Both. You want to be the one that they saw across the bar. Spread me out on the bread me.

I want to be right in the middle. Let me, I'll be, you know, I know they don't have a Renfield, but like I'll be that for them. Put me in coach. I'm ready to help you guys continue to thrive. Now, Maggie Gyllenhaal, I know she makes, she does good things and she makes good things. Like, do we, how, how do we know how do we feel about her as the writer-director, right? I, you know, I'm going to say, I don't know. Adam, how do we feel good about this?

We feel good about it. All right, we're feeling good about it. I just trust Adam more than anything. I trust Adam more than anything. And I just have a perhaps illogical trust of Maggie Gyllenhaal because I feel like she almost exclusively makes cool and interesting things. But I just like, I think I also just like her. I think I just like her essence.

I think I just like that she is directing her brother in this. I think that's a lot of fun. I'm excited because Peter Scar's going. is in it and Penelope Cruz is in it. Oh, well, the whole family's there. Wow. Dude, it's, I, the trailer, I'm going to say, we don't know if it's going to be good or not. So, you know, don't hold us to that. But I will throw it out there. At least it's probably going to be fun and it's probably going to be sexy. Yeah. And as someone that I just want more people, I'd love it. If more people could open up their eyes to the world of monster fuckerdom,

I think there's a lot of sexy being left on the table that we could all really enjoy in. That it's like, don't you live for the escapism? Don't you? Aren't we intrigued by the other that either wants to be assimilated into society or doesn't want to? Like, aren't we all looking for something kind of supernatural or ethereal to take care of us? All right, maybe we're not all in that same boat. Well, I'm not, but I like hearing you say why you are. I think that...

Thank you. I appreciate that. I think that, again, I'm more of a man as the monster. You know, that's... I get scared by that. The other day, the middle schoolers I was working with were trying to figure out the name. They were discussing horror, and they were like, do you like horror films?

And then one of them goes, I like nonfiction horror films. And everyone was like, what the hell is that? And I was like, do you mean... I was like, do you mean true crime? They were like, yeah. That kind of horror. I was like, true crime isn't horror. And then we got into a big discussion of true crime versus horror.

But it was a big split, you know. I'm actually, I'm going into this weekend, Natalie and I are going to the fantastic starfall ball. There's a big romanticcy event this weekend. And I'm nervous because I'm coming in. We're doing like the only show. And I'm trying to explain to romanticcy lovers that we have more mean monster fuckers and romanticie lovers have more in common than you'd think. And I'm worried I'm going to be turned away.

Like, I'm worried that people are not going to agree with me and just be like, you're crazy. You're just a horny, horny scary. And I'd be like, yeah, leave me to be with the other horny scarries. You don't get any of it. I think the Romanticy world is kind of a bridge, right? Because my sense as a non-Sara J. Mosshead is that, like, I, from all of the, you know, just from looking at Instagram and also looking at, like, what is displayed in the, like,

you know, book of the month displays at the line. library. Like it is like the Sir J. Moss books are so mainstream, right? And so beloved. And like I think it's very, given how much I know, given how, how dirty they are, I think it's very funny when like, you know, the extremely wholesome mom fluencer who teaches you how to like make chocolate chip muffins is like, my reading material. And I'm like, you dirty dog, you know, so I think that it's like, I think that it's kind of fun that these books are so, they're like as popular as Harry Potter, but we all know they're smut. And I think that that's fun. And I think that it's normalizing, you know, sexy, sexy fantasy, fairy erotica. Yeah. And so, and I, I think that the people who go to

the Romantici conventions are probably people who go a little harder that your average every day person reading the book from the library. But I think that you can be the bridge from that towards the monster fucker world. And next thing you know, the chocolate chip muffin lady is going to be talking about monster fucking. This is, I just want, I wanted to be more of an inclusive community. Because, you know, we all want very similar things. And it just depends on, you know, I feel like a lot of people don't think that the world of the Thay is included in monsterdom just because they're more humanoid than other creatures. But like, bro, they're not humans, though. They're still other creatures.

They are still much more beautiful. They have usually, like, different abilities. They have, it's like, they're not human beings. So doesn't that also mean that you might be a monster fucker? But, you know, we don't need to get into all of that. Let's, I'll let you guys know next week if I get booed off the stage or people just are, you know, just like hurling insults at me, which is, you know, what your anxiety brain tells you is going to happen. But then you just push right through it and really hope that it doesn't.

I think it's great. I for one, am very grateful to Sarah J. Moss for replacing all of the, I feel like she has taken up, stepped into the, like, vacuum created by the change in reception to the Harry Potter books after J.K. Rowling became who she is. And I feel like that was like these, there was, there was so wonderful about those books, but it was like these series, the series of books that, you know, young people and adults were so excited about and like waiting out online on the bookstores and doing the, and I love, even though I didn't love the books, I loved that for them. And I feel like Sarah Chaymas is that, is creating that level of excitement about reading without all the transphobia.

the same, yes, for a lot of the same, you know, age group as well. And I think it's because now we've got a new Akitar coming out soon and there's going to, I mean, I kind of want to go back in time like what I did with the Harry Potter openings and, you know, rip some lines off the dashboard of my car and just get in there with a fucking cape and be like, yeah, yeah. I think it only hit different now that I'm 20 years older, though. I guess I shouldn't do that because I think I might get arrested. But that's, what a fun way to get arrested.

It would be great for the brand, you know? Like, that's how hard she goes. You know, she needed to really get amped for the new Akitar drop because we don't know, oh my God, MJ, you don't even know what's going to happen. Like, we don't even know. It's all the worlds. And there's a lot happening in the world of SJM. Okay.

And someday I'm going to ensnare you, but not yet. You've got Stephen King that you got to be reading. I'd rather you be scared than enticed. What does that say about our friendship? I'd try to be scared and aroused. Yeah, I think it's like, yeah, go get scared instead. It's more fun. But there's a lot out there that is not more fun.

And, oh, where is she going to go? I'm talking marathon running. I'm talking about Harry Styles, okay? I want to bring up that pop superstar, Harry Styles, runs the Berlin Marathon under a secret name and sets a good time. I immediately in my brain started making jokes of, if I ever even attempted to run a marathon, could you imagine how much you guys would have to hear me talking about getting...

Remember what Holden was getting ready for a marathon? All he did was talking about. He's like, oh, because, you know, I've got to get... Which I understand. Getting ready for a marathon is hard work. I understand you put a lot into it. How did Harry Styles do all of this? And he must have just been annoying to his friends, right?

I actually do think it's very sweet that he did it without any accolades. And I do, yeah, I mean, it's like marathon runners are so, they so don't do it for the, for the glory, right? They just, marathon runners are just, there's, I ran cross country in high school. You remember, I was last on the team. And there are people who just love running so much. They love running. They just love running. And they may as well be aliens to me.

They are in it for the love of the game. One of my best friends proposed to his now wife after they both finished the New York City Marathon. Oh, isn't that nice? And they just love to run. And I'm like, I'm so happy for you. But I feel like it's true that if you or I did a marathon, I would never shut up about it.

I would bring it up in every episode. I would be like, remember when I ran a marathon, I don't blame Holden for talking about his half marathon. I'm proud of him still for running an after marathon. him. It's incredible. I'm proud of him, even though he didn't put the covers on his nipples, and I always think about, yeah, I'm bringing up nipples again during this episode. I think about his bleeding nipples because he didn't cover his nipples and he knew he was supposed to cover his nipples. And then I, yeah, and now we're all thinking about Holden's bloody nipples. You're

welcome. You thought pot will be better second time around? Maybe it's not this year, this week. Okay, well, I was looking. I was looking. up Harry Stahl, because I also, I know we did not end up talking about how he is in a relationship. It was Zoe Kravitz and how we feel about that. But I just saw a headline, the clear sign that Harry Stiles is a series about Zoe Kravitz revealed after she supported him at the Berlin Marathon. And so it seems like she was, you know, there for him or whatever. And I think I might like it. I, you know, I think I might like it. After all of the don't really worry darling stuff, I was like, okay, Harry Styles, how do I feel about you?

And after he made that whatever, that acceptance speech, when he was like, this doesn't happen for people like me. And everyone was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? But other than that, like I really like that. You got like lots of legs up. What are you talking about? Like, structurally, this only happens to people like you.

But, but that said, I have always enjoyed his little gender bendingness. And I, listen, I'm a casual Harry, Harry Styles like, consumer. I really can't go deep into him, but I've always enjoyed him as a public figure, and I've always enjoyed Zoe Kravitz as a public figure. And I think that this relationship is kind of fun. Yes. And man, you know, Harry Styles is 31 because I was about to be like, because in my head, Harry Styles is still a child, but he's really not. Hey, it's insane how like when you start talking about someone when you're much younger, that that age gap means so much more. I feel like we started talking about Harry Stiles probably when he was in his like late teens and we were in our late 20s, which was so at that time it's like, oh, he's a baby now, but now I'm like, oh, he's 31. He's not a child anymore. He's a full grown human being, you know? I almost made a reference to One Direction at the middle school the other day. And then I was like, I don't know if they'll know who One Direction is, you know? Although we say this and a lot of things do come back around on like,

TikTok and stuff like that. So they are more aware of like Spice Girls and stuff like that than I would expect them to be. They're certain. And the people have spoken, by the way, and they, the young people do still know about Neutral Milk Hotel. So thank you to those of us who let us know. I appreciate that. And I'm happy. Yes. And hopefully you also listen to this year by the Mountain Goats over and over again. It's just because of our conversation about Neutral Milk Hotel, because I feel like if you know one, you know the other. So it's two great tastes. that taste great together. They do taste great together.

And I'm trying to look at this. In talking about Harry Styles, there's all these headlines like, did Olivia Wilde just shade Harry Styles? And it's just like, she just posted something. She posted something about like, I think, like men in general.

And it's like, yeah, well, I think she's just, I think she's just shaden. I think she's just throwing out a silly. I don't think she is probably up at night thinking about Harry Styles and Jason Sadega. or maybe Jesus Siddakis, but I don't know.

Maybe because all the, I think the don't worry darling stuff really probably. Oh, she posted, this is kind of funny. She posted, she held up a little little people figurine. That's clearly one of her child's toys. And it has like brown hair and a mustache and a worker's outfit and a backwards hat. And it says, I know some of you would fold over an MF like this. That's kind of fun. I got no problem with it.

It's just, it's fine. It's, that's what I say it. It's just like a little joke. If anything, it's about Jason Sadecas, though. It's a Jason Sadecas. Because he has a mustache sometimes. Yes. Although Harry Styles does too.

Yeah. All right. Withdrawn. Yeah. It could be about an, oh man, I miss those days, though. Don't you wish you could go back in time to the Don't worry, darling premiere. I would live that day.

If I'm going to get a list of days, I would live again. It would be that. It's a go to the movie kind of film. It's a good of the movie kind of film. And that was back when, because I want to talk about the lip reading story with Selena Gomez. That was back when a little bit of lip reading was kind of fun and everyone was trying to figure out what Chris Pine said to Harry

Stiles. Was it Chris Pine and Harry Styles they were trying to lip read? Yes. Can we stop with the lip reading videos? I know. It is so weird. It's really getting to a point of like just like people talk to each other. Stop. Yeah. Can we just stop? I know. It is. So the story from the from this week and it's from the Emmys, which is a week or two weeks ago now. But but yeah, this is there's like cute elements to it. But then it's totally, it's, you're so right, Jackie, that, like, the idea that you can't even whisper something in public anymore is so creepy and so panopticon and so dangerous. But there's elements, like, I understand why people want to make this because it's, so what, so what it is is that at the Emmys, Selena Gomez was, of course, sitting with Martin Short and Steve Martin. And there is, and you can see Martin Short just being the incredibly charming person that he is, is sitting down at texting with a big, smile on his face. Huge shit eating grin. That's enough. Just look that up and you'll feel just and then

stop because that part is so fucking cute. And what is cute about the story is that, you know, whatever the fucking lip reading experts that every entertainment news website hires now say that what is happening is that. So you see that Selena look over at Martin Short texting and then she leans over to Betty Blanco and says Marty's texting Merrill. And she did like a little. little like cute pouty face. Like, Marty's texting Merrill. And I understand the urge to like this story because the idea of Martin Short looking at his phone with a gigantic smile on his face while texting his sweet girlfriend,

Merrill Street, is the cutest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. It's so sweet. And also her friendship with them with those two guys is so sweet. And so I totally understand how sweet it is if this is what happened. And it does appear that this is what happened. that said, the idea that every public figure now, like really to the, it happens with Taylor Swift a lot. It happens with Selena Gomez a lot. Well, no, because this happened before with specifically Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift at the Golden Globes.

But what Selena Gomez had done. They were talking shit. They were talking shit, but she had covered her mouth. Selena Gomez covered her mouth, which is smart because now you have to cover your mouth to make sure people can't see. That's insane. But that is crazy, guys. That's crazy. Do we want to live in a world where at the award shows, if you're going to say something

that you don't report it on, you have to cover your mouth? Like, it is, I know, it is, it's bad. It's real bad. The, the lack of. That should be something that if you are, if you can read lips, that's for you. I feel like that's an inside of life that you get for having a skill that other people don't have. We don't need, we don't need to do this.

We don't need to out that. Like, we don't, like, it is, I will say it's a very cute story. I'm very happy for Martin Short and I'm very happy from Harold Street. But like, yeah. Just reading her lips, just God. And then there's also, though, there's so much of the swather of the internet that is like, well, she shouldn't be talking at that. It's like, so she shouldn't say anything. No, the idea that if you're in public, you should expect that anything you say.

To never say anything? And, you know, it used to be, oh, somebody said something with a, they forgot. they had a body mic on. And that was kind of fun. You know, like the jinx. I mean, it's like, we're going back. Like, give me jinx days.

Please give me that. Totally. Like, that is whatever. Like, if you get caught, if you forget you have a mic on, that's kind of, especially if you're a professional entertainer. Yeah, you got to figure that out.

But no, it is, it is bad that, that the invasion of privacy now advances to whispers to your partner without a microphone. That's bad. Yeah. That's bad.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. But it's also pretty bad when, you know, you get arrested for criminal trespassing while I guess you might just be trying to do your job. Yeah, I'm talking about the person that was arrested for criminal trespassing on Travis Kelsey's property while allegedly attempting to serve Taylor Swift with deposition papers on behalf of the Justin Baldoni trial. This just broke. Did you guys think we were ever going to say Baldoni ever again? Don't worry. It's come back. I know.

It never went away. Throwing that out there for anybody that looks at celebrity gossip, there is, you can still find a Justin Baldoni article almost every single day because they just keep trying. Man, his PR machine is trying so desperately to churn it, to still keep churning it, and this shit just keeps getting thrown out, thrown out.

And now, like Taylor Swift has openly said, I'm not getting deposed. and also her representation has said I have nothing to like Taylor Swift has nothing to do with this case so it is so that's why this story just dropped we don't know if he was actually trying to give her

the summons right just dropped it I'm so interested because yeah it's one thing for her and her publicity team to be like it couldn't have been that she was about to be served papers because she's not getting deposed I don't think that I mean that's you don't really you might get you might not

think that you want to be part of a case, but you can still get served, right? You can still get subpoenaed. And I would not at all be surprised if she's subpoenaed because she's mentioned in so many the documents. Yes. So I don't totally buy her PR, her public relation management of like, that there's no way that I'm going to be part of this lawsuit. I don't think you can, you, you know, you can't just be like, nope, not me. Like, if you get served, you have to do it. It's worth noting that the date of arrest was three days after a judge denied Justin's team's extension to deposed Taylor. This means that after a judge ruled that Taylor would not be deposed in the case,

a man still went on Travis's property and seemingly attempted to serve her with papers. So that's why this is all- Had said. And ruled that she's not going to be deposed. All right. So that's different because I was like, if she just doesn't want to get served, that doesn't mean you ain't getting served. And I would love, I just love, I'm just laughing because you hear all the, you know,

there's process servers, the people who have to. serve you when you're getting subpoenaed. They like have to hand the papers to you physically. And there's so many funny stories about what people will do to like get it in their hand, you know? But also I imagine so many horrible stories of what they've had to do to get it into their hands too. Definitely. It's just such a weird rule that you have to hand it to them physically. And so I just think it's very funny to think about like how would you serve a resistant Taylor Swift papers because you can't get close to her. So what do you do? So I think that this is just a very funny thing to imagine that he actually was a process server and that he was climbing the fence.

And wasn't told that he wasn't supposed to do the job. Like it was like on his list of things to do and he had to go and do it. And so you got to get it done. You got to get it done. I feel bad. I hope that it was a mistake. I hope it wasn't a stalker because there was also like, who's like Taylor just, I think, put another restraining order out for stalking for so.

So it's like there's all. That's why this story is so up in the air of like, is it another stalking kind of thing? Was he actually trying to deliver? Like, yeah. that stuff, then it gets scary. But honestly, even you talking about people giving court summons makes you think of, I met a repo man in Tallahassee, Florida. And I will tell you, a repo man in Tallahassee, Florida has some scary stories.

Oh, yeah. I remember drinking with him. And I remember specifically at the time, all of these memories are coming back. I remember at the time being like, why are you talking to me about this? I remember sitting on my porch smoking cigarettes and he was just walking by. And so I thought, I was like, I know he's not repo and none of mine because I got nothing. So, I don't know, because I was so young, was like, I don't know what he would take. And he just was talking at me.

And I think he just was having a rough day. And he decided to just talk at somebody sitting on a porch because that's what happens when you're in Tallahassee. I met lots of people sitting on my porch because, man, when you're sitting on your porch in Tallahassee, that means it's an open invitation. Have a conversation. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think the best, that's where the best conversations in Florida happens. It's not. It's usually just because I wanted to smoke a cigarette back then. But, you know, just want to be left alone for a moment. But why not talk to random strangers walking by? But anyway, you know what? Thoughts and love go out to that repo man somewhere. Your day to day is better. I hope. I understand that the subpoena was withdrawn and whatever. But I do think that I want like a Gwyneth Paltrow ski trial, but for Taylor Swift. I think that that would give us a lot to laugh about. I lost a half a day of skiing. Yeah. I want to hear. I wish you. I wish you.

I want to hear the sound by it. Yeah. I wish you will. You know, she would, I think she, I'm not comparing Taylor Swift to Goop. Okay. But I do think it would be similarly hilarious to see her. You know, it wouldn't be as entertaining as Cardi B in a courtroom. It would be differently entertaining than that, differently entertaining than Gwyneth Paltrow.

But I would love it. But, yeah, I think Baldoni seems to be like losing most of his court battles. Yeah, yeah. It seems like they really keep trying and there's really not a lot. A lot of shit just keeps getting thrown out. And, man, there are certain things I'd love to watch get thrown out of society. And I'm not saying that Hilaria Baldwin is one of them. But I will throw it out there.

That M.J. Hilaria wants to be brave. This bitch. Because it can be uncomfortable. And MJ, it can be, I'm sorry. It can be uncomfortable. This bitch. But you wants to be brave.

Did you have you watched this week? Is that better? I mean, it is more difficult with a fast turnover because I have to wait for the dances to be put onto YouTube. Yes, because you got rid of Hulu, which is. Yeah. Yes. But I've watched, like I saw, I know that Corey Feldman, I watched the robber Irwin, like the tango. Oh, he did great.

Oh, my God. My God. Wow. That child is doing a wonderful job. So he did great. that yes, it was another, it was, yes, you can watch all the things on YouTube if you have canceled Disney and Hulu and clap, clap, clap if you have. So, hilarious, right.

So this story that you're referencing is her being like, I, it is such a challenge. And yet it is, I am so brave. And it is so, why, bitch, why are you saying about, I have to be brave? What, we can see through this, you crazy, crazy bitch. But what's even... You're a trained dancer. She's a trained dancer. Yes, we got an email suggesting that she might not even be qualified to compete

and that she is downplaying her previous dance experience because you're not supposed to compete if you have been like a professional dancer is supposed to be for amateurs. And she was a high level dancer before she got her hip injury that she cried about last week. And so her being like, I'm so brave, I'm so brave, whatever, predictable hilarious behavior. But I've got a bigger bone to pick with her, which is that... Oh, bone it out. Since, so the episode is live on Tuesday nights.

And then on Wednesday, she's all over social media saying, how dare they? How did they do it this way? Because what they did at the end was that they named six people who were safe and sent them to the safe area. And then they named another six people, I think, six couples who were safe and sent them to the safe area. And they left three couples out. The three couples were Corey Feldman and his partner. the other person, yeah, the NBA guy that got current. Baron Davis and his partner.

And by the way, he's got great energy and he was trying his best. I love you, Baron Davis. But I don't know anything about you, but I like you on the show. And then Hilaria. So there was three couples standing there left. And then, you know,

they were going to see who were the two to be sent home. Total normal reality show competition behavior. You build the suspense and you draw it out. And then Hilaria has the audacity to go out there and do interviews. afterwards and be like, my children were crying. My children were crying because they thought

Mommy was going to be eliminated. Let's not do that again. Like, she's like scolding the shows, producers, because she was, she had to stand there and be afraid she was going to be eliminated and her children were crying. That's reality television. That's what happens, man. Like, that's what happens.

I'm sorry that you were upset and I'm sorry that your kids were upset, but this is literally how competition shows are structured. And I didn't, I was like, I was watching this like the Zabruder film, like trying to figure out exactly why she was the one that was the third up there. But I think it might be because she got low audience votes. I'm speculating on that. I don't know because they were like they had the three of them left up there. And then there were like the three of you left up here, you know, the combination of audience votes and judges' scores are going to are what have you standing here.

So I was just like, why is hilarious there? Because obviously she's a very good dancer. She's getting good scores. And so I was like, is she there because she got the lowest audience rating? Or is it just that they ran that they just had another non-elimination couple there? I don't know. And I'm sorry for not knowing. I really was trying to figure this out.

But she's mad at them because she had to fear elimination. I'm like, the rules apply to you, girl. Yes. And also the narrative she spins in her brain is like, I bet therapists have a field day with this bitch because she was in. I was, yes, yes. And there's this. post article that says,

Hilaria Baldwin omit, she feels very misunderstood by the public. And she, so many times somebody has said as we got up the stage, like, don't worry, a little bit longer, and people will be able to see you. And, you know, I've heard that in so many things. And I feel like the past 15 years,

I've been tap dancing in all different ways, in all different rhythms, and just being like, do you see me yet? Do you see me yet? Do you see me yet? And then it continues. news. I never want to not be grateful for the world that I'm in because I'm so blessed. And I live my life with gratitude every single day. But there are really hard moments where I feel

misunderstood and I feel taken out of context and the people misconstrue things or completely make stuff up and that is very painful for me. Yeah. Um, think about how painful it is. Do you see me yet? Do you see me yet? Girl, go talk to a. therapist. Sorry, boo. And we have... It's Hilaria. Put all that ire towards Hilaria. We have read her book and we know that Hilaria has taken no accountability about her long

journey of pretending to be from Spain. And she's mad that people still keep bringing it up, but she also hasn't like done anything about it. She just keeps saying in the book, all she says is I have ADHD. And that's just an unrelated, that's just an unrelated comment. But all of her videos, all of the clips of her. comments. You know, that's why. It's all that ADHD. That's why she's doing all this. That's just unrelated. But so there's all of these comments. Why the accent? The accent, please stop. She's from Massachusetts. Why is she talking like a toddler? Still trying to sound Hispanic. Stop it already. The fake accent is like nails on a chalkboard. There are news stories now about how all of the, and I'm not saying, you know, the comments are always newsworthy. Oftentimes they're not. But it's just very funny that she'd, did this thing and then kind of unrelated to the thing, the thing she was caught in 2020 for the

accent, and then the rust thing happened, and that superseded everything. And she kind of just never was held to account for the fake accent. And then when she came back after the rust thing was, quote, unquote, resolved because, you know, he was, because of the way that the trial was resolved. Then she just spent her whole show and her whole book being like, it was so mean of everyone to make fun of me and my accent. I have ADHD. And so there's just like, so now she's trying to be a public figure, but there's still no resolution on the fake accent and the fake claiming to be from Spain. No, but don't worry, the first episode, oh, we've all been waiting. We've all been waiting for the child podcast she's doing. Growing up together with Carmen and

Eladia. Guys, the first episode is dropped so you can go listen to what an 11-year-old is thinking when she's forced to do a podcast because not only did she have a book in her, she has podcasts in her. And that's insane to me. And she pulled all the kids out of school to move them to L.A. so that they could be with her during her dancing with the stars. I'm torn on that. I wouldn't want to like be away for eight weeks. And so I guess pulling the kids out of school and bringing them to you is like, I guess I'm, I guess I will reserve judgment on that. But, but yeah, doing a podcast with your 11 year old, I do, I do have judgments about that. I can't wait till your kids are old enough to start forcing them to do content.

When is it? Oh, yeah. We got two more years? How many more years? Six months? I'll bring them on tour. I'll bring them on tour. Please, get them on stage.

I'll make them talk to everyone. Yes. And I think that's going to be really good for their psyche. I think, man, I've got a lot of memoirs that you can check out of child stars that were fine. Yeah, they're fine. It's everyone knows that, you know, putting your kids in the spotlight constantly, it turns out totally fine. Yeah.

Yeah, there's not even, I'm trying to think if there's other Dancing with the Stars highlights. Not really. You know, Corey Feldman needed to go home. He needed to go. It was just, that was all, I mean, I think we all just wanted to see what he could do. And we saw it. Yeah. And it's, we will throw it out there that everybody, I'll also thank you for the many emails of

Corey Feldman is the bad man. Don't feel bad for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got lots of don't feel bad for Corey Feldman's. But, I mean, it's also just, you know, well, it's also a lot of trauma. I feel like there's a lot. But there's also lots. There's lots.

And we shouldn't. We shouldn't forgive him. And we shouldn't watch him on our dance with stars. But don't worry. He's already eliminated. We don't have to worry about it anymore. Robert Irwin was in. I didn't get a chance to see the Mormon wives.

Did they also hold up this week? I didn't see Whitney, but I saw Jen. And she did great. I'm proud of her. She's a little Papa Sunshine when she's up there. I tell you what? Like I feel like I think she's going to give it a good pizzazz in a way that she doesn't. Well, I'm going to say,

she doesn't have in the reality show, but no, I kind of weirdly, I weirdly am rooting for her in the reality show. I will say that I watched this episode of Dancing with the Stars with my beloved husband who extremely did it to do me a favor. And I'm very grateful to him. Yeah, no, Jeff really his favorite show. Grieved the sigh of relief. And he's like, oh, you're, oh, no, you have to watch it on YouTube now. Oh, wow. Yeah. I get a lot of that. No, we watched it together. And Gideon was really not, I was like, you know, when you're watching something with your partner and you're like doing an active, extremely excited commentary about it, you look over and they're just on the phone and not even have any idea what you're saying. So I was trying to explain the Jen Affleck thing and I was like,

she's really been stifled by her abusive husband. Gideon was like, are they apart? And I was like, no, he's there. No, he's right there. No, in fact, they had another child together instead. Three other three. And he's like already looking at his phone again. Yeah. But she's like, what, seven weeks postpartum, you know? Yeah, she's eight weeks postpartum. Like, that's insane. Yeah. But, yeah.

Delano is fun. Also continues to be a little, you little cutie, a little bite size little, little, oh, I just want to chew on him. Yeah, no, he's, he's fine. Everyone else is fine. Speaking of celebrity kids, do you see that Violet, um, Affleck spoke at the UN? Yeah, dude.

About COVID. Violet Affleck has been doing a. lot of work because Violet Affleck, I believe that they have an autoimmune. I'm not sure what it is. I haven't looked quite far into it, but I know that they have some sort of immune issue. And so that's why oftentimes when you see pictures of them, they have a mask on. And now they're really working to enact change. They are a Nepo baby that is trying to like from a young age actually use their name to do something. She's 19 speaking at the UN.

Wow. I love this for her. 19. Hell yes. Yes. Hell yes. You know, we got to shout out the good nepo babies when they come around. You're right. And I appreciate you for saying that because we, you know, we're so often looking at the negative neps out there.

But we got to sprinkle on some good ones. Negative neps. Well, we don't have to end the show on a sad note. But we do, speaking of negative neps, I cannot wait to read this Priscilla Presley memoir. Wow. Yikes. There is a little, I went deep into this profile of it. It's called Softly as I Leave You, Life After Elvis.

And it is, Priscilla Presley is 80. And it is mostly an accounting of, yeah, her, I mean, she famously met Elvis when she was 14. He was 24. but it really is an accounting of Lisa Marie and Lisa Marie's struggles in life. And I am going to read the fuck out of this book. We're going to read it for celebrities. Something tells me, now I will say we're in the middle of our Joan Rivers journey right now, but something tells me right over the peak of this mountain is going to be this Priscilla

Presley memoir. I think that it's going to be juicy. It's going to be sad. Yeah. And I, you know, if we're talking Elvis, I do want to throw this out there not to pivot right into Jackie's book club, but next week, not next week, the week after, we're starting book three. And I will say, oh, they're my Elvis impersonation. It comes back. And it is that good.

And I do continue doing it like that through that episode. So I've honed that. And I know you just thought Elvis had entered the building, but no, it is me, Jackie Zabrowski. And I did it for Jeff yesterday. And he looked at me with such shock and he went, that was supposed to be Elvis? And he's like, it's really given John Travolta got hit in the head. And it's like, yeah, it's, you know, it's given a couple of things. But honestly, I contain multitudes.

Yeah, yeah. No, I heard your southern accent when we were. We were talking with Jake, and I was impressed. Thank you very much, yeah. I thought it was hunting wives. I found myself being disturbingly attracted to the accents and hunting wives. Oh, yeah. Oh, those rich bitches.

Yeah, yeah, I know you shouldn't. It's like the moneyed conservatives of Texas. And I was like, hello. Not usually my wheelhouse. Just the accents, to be fair. Well, how about this? This is a fun little page 7 story to end on. Did you see that Mariah Carey was.

my God, yes. On CBS, good morning with Gail King. I'm curious, how about you? I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed about it. I'm embarrassed about how many children he has. She was asked, I'm curious how you, regard to Nick,

you and your two children, talking about Nick Cannon, how you navigate, because you're co-parent with Nick Cannon, how you navigate co-parenting when his life is so public. And she responded, hmm, I kind of feel like it's best

if I don't talk about him because he can be just in his own. world, no offense to him. And I think that no offense to him is perfect. No, that is such a, I wish you well. I wish you well. But that is all offense to him. And it is just like, even just the slightest amount of a drag is by everything. I don't want to talk about him because he lives in his own world. Because no offense to him. No offense to him. Mariah. I love her. And of course, Mariah is making her rounds because she is being de-iced from her crypt. Yes, don't worry, Mariah Carey might be coming to your town to be wheeled onto a stage

to stand very stoically and sing Christmas music at you. And I, am I going to do this every year? The will she, won't she, of looking at, do I actually go to this show? I feel like I need it. I feel like I shouldn't because I can't imagine what the ticket. I haven't even looked into it, MJ. I feel like whatever she's selling the tickets for for a limited edition show, or maybe it's much more affordable than I would think.

Here's what you should do, Jackie. Fly out to New York will go to the Rockefeller Christmas tree lighting where she always sings. They wheel her out. They wheel her out. She often can't really sing that well because it's cool. cold. Yeah, it's cold. Yeah, and it's cold outside MJ. And she's expected to sing. And then, no, no, no, no, no, no. You stay long enough so that we can finally realize our dreams and go to the Mariah Carey Black Irish liquor holiday hop on. God, it is our dream, isn't it? It is our dream. We got to see her perform live. There's all these, it's like all these Vegas tickets, but, oh, she's going to be at the Hollywood Bowl in November. Oh, no, that was 2024. I shouldn't be doing this right now while I'm in the middle of the show.

I shouldn't be starting to look for tickets for Mariah Carey in the middle of trying to talk during show because we've reached the end of our show. We have. And I do hope that. Christmas in Vegas, only 80 bucks. Only 80 bucks. The tickets aren't open yet, but that's what it's. Oh, the tickets aren't open yet. They are listed right now for 80 bucks.

Oh, is it only in Vegas? Maria Carrey's Christmas time in Vegas. Wow. Only. Wow. this fucking bitch, last year she went from city to city and this year she won't even let them come to me. Oh, there's no way. I'm not getting in a private plane.

I'm not going to different cities. No, they're going to come to me. Extremely relatable. You will be out on that same stage every night. I don't give a fuck. Well, if it's in Vegas, I mean, you got to go. I got to go. All right.

All right. God damn it. Sorry, Jack. I don't know if you wanted to see Mariah Carey, but now you might have to because your wife's a beautiful nightmare. And that is where we will be leaving you. And maybe you will find yourself in Vegas this holiday season.

You should find yourself in front of Mariah, where she's like Hannibal Lecter tied to a, you know, what are those things called? Like a package gurney? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The gurney. I like picturing her as Hannibal Lecter. and so whenever you describe wheeling her out and propping her up, I think of Judy Garland and it makes me sad.

Oh, no, I only think about it like Cannibal. Okay, that's much better. I think she's fully stood up. Like, she almost looks like a mummy, like arms are crossed in front of her. Like she can't even like, because she can't even hold up her own arms. I'm thinking more that. Okay, I love that. Yeah, that really helps.

That really helps. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not making fun of other things. No, no, no, I just wonder. I just want her to, you know, I want her to give me just a little. And maybe it's because I'm in season two of Hannibal. Jesus Christ, I haven't even brought up the fact that we finished the first season of Hannibal. We're in the second season of Hannibal.

It's so gay. It's so gay. And I just, how many seeds are just like, and then they kiss. And then they start kissing. Yeah. Oh, but there's glass there. But then they start kissing. How do they kiss through the bars?

But they make it work. But it's just, no, but instead it's just a game of cat and mouse. Yes. But it's the ultimate. And then they kiss. show. Like, oh my God. I'm just like vibrating with it.

I'll bet you. I just, I wish I was in the room with you while you were watching Hannibal. It is the perfect show for you. Bobbo, Bobo. I'm in trouble. But I will say not every night is a night that I'm like, I can handle a Hannibal. Oh, God.

It is, it's just really heavy. It is, and it's upsetting, especially in the second seat. The second seat, I'm just like, what's going to happen? Yeah. I'm trying not to give anything away. So I'll just leave it at that. But I will say it out there for all you, what is it, Hannah Stans? Hannibalians.

I forget what they're called. There's a name for you guys. I don't know. Bulldozers? I like Hannah Stans. Yeah. All right. You, Hannistans out there. I just want to say thank you so much for your continued support. And thank you, M.J. for another wonderful episode with us today. I hope you guys got all full up on your second helpings. and we yelled a bit. But, you know, there was also some smiling in there, too. Yeah.

Yeah, we're trying to smile. You know. Go watch K-pop Demon Hunters. You won't regret it, really. Like, you will feel, and then you'll feel a part of something. You'll feel part of this, like, collective joy we're all experiencing. It isn't that nice. It'll be the human connection we all so desperately crave.

Through the screen. Shall we sing the song? All right. I guess, yeah, we're going to get out of here. Yeah, let's sing the song. But it'll be better. A second time around. This show is made possible by listeners like you.

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