Page 7 - Second Helpings - Everyone's Been Talkin' About Chunk

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

This week MJ and Jackie unleash on the world that THE LOVE HAS GONE with it comin' out that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban's divorce is a lot more contentious than previously thought! MJ and Gideon are tryin' to find somethin' between a Hocus Pocus and Hereditary to enjoy for their 31 for 31 as true life horrors are just too much this year, Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco got maaaarried but all the news could talk about was Taylor Swift being there right before "The Life of a Showgirl" dropped, Jackie's in Season 2 of Hannibal and it's SPICY HAWT. It's FAT BEAR WEEK! JLO opened up about the DIVORCE and how the greatest love story ever told fell apart, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is havin' a 30th reunion and MJ is just TOO excited, and speakin' of 30 year old shows, Debbe Dunning from "Home Improvement"'s show within a show "Tool Time" has said Tim Allen has always been a fuckwad. Faith from Buffy, Eliza Douche, missed the "Bring It On" reunion because she was WORKIN', and in DWTS news HILARIA goes on and on and on and on about herself while GLEB just looks miserable, Robert Irwin took off his shirt to unleash some Australian Thunder and everyone asked him to put it back on, and even more DWTS chatter! Plus MJ and Jackie agree if ya ain' watchin' season 2 of Peacemaker, you better get on IT and even more!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast   Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You're damn right. It will. It's going to be even bigger. It's going to be even bustier because I'm growing extra breasts. Wow. Or, you know, I honestly, for the harvesting. I think this is, yeah, to make up for the cumulative lack of breasts now on my side, you're doing the heavy lifting for both of us.

And yes, I'm going to be harvesting for other people. Honestly, it's going to be a lot like Bay and Jay's womb farm. But it'll be, even though, again, you know when I envision that I just see, like, uteruses in jars and I'm not thinking about the like, you know, cattle that is used for it. This is a great way to start the show, right? I've missed the uterus far about us. It was a simpler time. Well, it was a simpler time when that was the craziest thing going on.

Yeah. But, you know, now we get to talk about other things instead. I have really been, I'm going to put this out there, losing a little bit of time and maybe spiral in. a little too hard while reading into this divorce. Oh my God. I feel like Keith Urban is leaving me personally right now. Dude, people has a whole vertical just for the divorce. And also, I hate to say this, but page six had a great headline, which was urban development,

which I'm so sorry to say is very, very funny. I love you. I love your post. You know, the Post has some interesting. thing takes. But man, those headlines, I tell you. I hate to hand it to them because they are a paper of repulsive bigotry. But in page six, urban development, very funny headline for the urban developments going on. And yes, an entire vertical at people. I just, you know what? I really thought when we talked about it yesterday that there just wasn't that much to say. It's like, okay,

I wish them well. But there's apparently a whole lot to say. Except it's not even like, I said that I just went, oh, no, as if it's really juicy. It's actually more just, seems like it was a lot more drawn out than people knew. It seemed like he really, really hurt the fuck out of her. Yeah. Seems like her openly filing for divorce now is the end of a long series. Like, she is now pretty much solo parenting their children. He was on stage, like, changing lyrics to, like, about songs that he had written about Nicole Kidman already.

Yeah. changing them and singing them flirtly. Singing them flirting with other people. I also saw that headline Keitherman suggestively sings to another woman. And I know that you're like, okay, well, Jackie, are you just saying this because in your brain, because you're an AMC Stubbs member, that you feel you have a better connection with Nicole Kidman where, yes, I do feel that way. Yeah, obviously.

But I will also say that the PR machine that is churning on Keith Urban's camp is annoying as hell. It is. It's a lot of like, oh, interesting. Oh, did they start having problems when she started being sexy on screen? Exactly. Whoa. Oh, is she too powerful and successful and sexy for you, Keith Urban?

I know. And this is like, I hate to be like, I know the parameters of this specific divorce because I've been alive on the earth and I understand how things work. I don't know exactly the parameters of this specific divorce, but it sure seems that he was having a, perhaps, given how the PR from his side is going, it seems that he was perhaps having a hard time with her success. Although, again, she's been Nicole Kidman for decades. Her sexy success. Yes, yes. But I mean, she's also been sexy since the beginning of time.

But it's like the barrage of extreme sexy films she has been making. If baby girl caused this divorce, I say, God bless it. But she's, yes. I just, you know, so yeah, it seems there's, that's, that's the spin right now, right? Is that Urban's camp is saying maybe it was, maybe she was just too sexy and too powerful. There is that. But then there's also the undercurrent of, and I think this is also part of personally, and this is where my trauma is coming in, that he was having a lot of difficulties with how upset she was when her mother passed.

and that she was very, very close to her mother and that he, there's also word on the street that he just fucking pieced. He was just like, I can't handle this. I can't. This is just what you support you. I know. But of course, you know, it's a lot of sources say, sources say,

of course. And, yes, again, we are all speculating. All we do here is speculate, right? We're not inside this marriage and we're not inside this divorce. But, right, knowing. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it's the idea that we're not supposed to sign with Nicole Kidman automatically. Right.

Like, of course I'm going to sign with Nicole Kidman automatically. Is that fair? I don't care. You know, like, yeah, at least as far as I can tell right now, fuck you, Keith Urban. But it's not even, I feel like it's so weird in this day and age to talk about celebrity gossip when, and like to talk about it in terms of like, like, like, even as I say, fuck you, Keith, urban. It's like, in comparison to what a lot of other people are doing right now, it really, I guess, isn't that bad? Like, it's like, oh, he just couldn't, he couldn't handle it. And there are a lot of relationships that a partner just, you know, you marry someone and you say, you know,

for richer, for poor, for sickness and health. And then sometimes you hit those parts and you're like, actually, nay, actually, I can't do this. And really, totally, you know, I still. You know, I still would be upset with someone for doing that, but it's also remembering that I guess he's a human being. Totally. Totally. And I do think we do strive, I think, here to recognize that like, I mean, again, we are technically here to talk about celebrity gossip and also technically this is kind of a private matter for them. So that's a hard line to walk. But it's true that people are allowed to break up and it doesn't inherently mean something went wrong and it doesn't inherently mean someone is an asshole. I will never forget, like, early in my 20s, a friend who was in her 30s was like,

whenever anyone tells me that they've broken up, I say congratulations. And I was like, what? And, you know, she was like, if a breakup needs to happen, it needs to happen. Like, that thing that has happened has happened. And it doesn't mean there has to be a villain. Sometimes there is. But sometimes it just means that the relationship needed to end. Maybe it will stay ended. Maybe you needed to break up and figure something out and come back. So like, I do, it doesn't necessarily mean that Keith Urban is the villain just because they are getting divorced, but I am going to say, if you ask me to pick a side, I will obviously choose Nicole Kidman. Yeah, I've obviously chosen her. I've seen big little lies. For me, I'm not even an

AMC subs member. It's literally every other work I've ever seen her in. And also my general impression of Keith Urban that is leading me to choose the side of Nicole Kidman and now seeing all of this like professional slut shaving of Nicole Kidman. Like, well, she did all these, she did all this on-screen sex and it's like yeah she is a very successful actress who is awesomely has spent the last like five years getting cast as like a milf you know like we love this for her but before she was a milf she was just a wolf she was just a woman i'd like too far like it's like yeah she just like i just want her and i love Nicole kidman i love that she's an ice queen and i love that you know i love everything about her yeah we have always ilfed ilfed her oh yeah oh i'd like

I'm illful. All ages, yeah. The problem is, it's practical magic. You know, for me, even though, like, I know it's practical magic is not a sexy movie to some. But again, hello, Sandra Bullock. Diane Weist, everybody, Dr. Kovach, this is soccer Channing? Yeah. And Nicole, I mean, this is good.

I was going to ask you, Gideon and I had a little mini meltdown yesterday, like a collective marriage. Do you tell. It was because we wanted to start Halloween movies, and then we realized that we're just too, like, upset about the world. Like, the world is just so upsetting that the idea of, like, and also he has a harder time with horror than me. Like, we always spend October watching horror, but then he has, he doesn't sleep for, like, a week after any movie that's scary. So I'm like, do we, we don't need to do this if you don't want to. So we like, we like spiraled about what we should watch like for 20 minutes. And then we're like, let's just watch Cheers.

And so. Yeah. Cheers is always there, you know. Sometimes you got to go where everybody knows your name. Yeah. I get you. I know. Are you in Cheers.

Just real quick sidebar. Dude, we're in season two. Where are we at? Okay. And I would die for coach. And I know what awaits coach, like the real life actor of coach. And I spend every episode of, I'm preemptively mourning coach in season two. Because I.

You definitely should. Love that man. I love coach more than I've ever loved a television character. MJ, you're going to be broken like a promise.

I'm just going to say this to you. I've already broken like a promise. I understand. I know. MJ, at least you had warning. I didn't. Oh, God. I can't imagine.

I had never won't. I watched cheers. I had no, and I'm not going to spoil cheers for everybody. So if you don't know what we're talking about, look it up. And you will find out very quickly.

And I think you can pick up what we're putting down here. But it is a very old show. The old man. in the show. I love him and I don't want anything that to ever happen to him. And what's really crazy about the show cheers is you're like, I'll never love again. And then Woody Harrelson comes, right? And then you meet Woody. Yeah. That's what Gideon keeps saying. He's like, but we will see Woody Harrelson. You have such a huge hole in your heart. Not that it will ever be filled. Yeah. But I will tell, I mean, Woody, he gets him.

I'm, yeah. I mean, he's a little. That's the reassurance. That's the reassurance I need right now. But all of this is a long way of saying that I think that this year is 31 for 31, given the horrors. And, you know, especially, Gideon has a very, the horrors of reality. Yeah, like a public-facing service job working with people who are really, you know, struggling right now. And so we need out there like saving the world and, you know, trying one person at a time. So we need to find a way to not be horribly upset every night in October, but still feel.

like we're celebrating spooky season. And I think that I need to find, I need to make a list of like fun, soft Halloween movies like practical magic. You know, you need The Hours. I was looking through Nicole Kidman movies. And I think the hours is a perfect amount of terrifying, but like in a different kind of way. Okay. And once you look into that, you'll realize how hilarious it is that I'm saying this.

I remember the hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that that's what, I mean, if you want to get it. into horrors that still persist. I mean, really, Nicole Kidman with a fake nose will do it for you. I tell you every time, every time. Oh, God, I forgot she's in the killing of a sacred deer. Adam, I love, I...

Virginia Woolf. Yeah. How dare you? Also, killing of a say, do not want... Well, killing of a sacred deer technically is also horrific. and not in a horror kind of way, oh, I'd be interested to hear

what Gideon has to say about the killing of a sacred deer. Now I'm just giving you Nicole Kidman movies to watch, so I don't know if this is what you're looking. I'm asking for Nicole Kidman movies. I'm asking for Halloween. Only can hear Nicole Kidman movies.

But have you rewatch Moulon Rouge? I'm not going to bring up any more of them. I need to get you You know what also is a good little, okay, bite size. Throw it out there something kind of new. The creep show show on shutter. That is so not creep show.

I mean, well, creep show, yes. Sorry, fuck, I wasn't thinking about creep show. Creep show, but also the creep tapes is what I was thinking of. The creep tapes are based off of creep. The creep one, creep two, which are great, like, found footage. Duplas Brothers. horrors. Those are great. Do not watch those with Gideon. I was going to say, I'm looking at this and it looks upsetting.

But the creep, I don't think you can handle the creep tapes either. Because the creep tapes are like, those. I think I'm asking the wrong person. Whoa. I love you, Jackie. Whoa. I guess, yeah, if you want to fall asleep, put on Lisa Frankenstein. No, Lisa Frankenstein was actually very cute. And I did enjoy Lisa Frankenstein. It was very cute to watch Colesbrow's Speak Less.

It's always what I'm asking for. But I'll let me ruminate on this. You know, I know that he can handle more than a hoax, right? He can do more than hocus pocus. Oh, yeah. He can do more than a hocus. I just, you know, we're not going to be doing hereditary. Okay.

All right. This is where our lines on. From hocus pocus to hereditary, we need to just find something in between Adam. Adam and I can start working on this list for you. You know what is really crazy. And it's so insane how the brain works. there's been so like this year's just been so truly insane that I saw Henry posts is 31 for 31. I was like, why?

Wow, already putting that out. And you bringing up 31 for 31. I was like, we are already, it's October 2nd, Jackie. I didn't realize it was October yet. So that's when you know that you're living in a weird vacuum of space when this is my favorite month and I didn't even realize it. So I guess the whole overwhelming of society is really working. Yeah. They're like doing a really good job.

Yeah. Yeah. No, this is your domain. This is technically your time to shine. But again, we are, no one's shining right now. No one is thriving. Everyone and everything is sad. So that's, you know, and that's why we have to cheer for Nicole Kinman.

And we say, you go, girl. You leave that man. And we say you go, girl. Yes. Leave that man. Get away from him. And also her PR machine is also churning and everybody's, oh, the whispers, the whispers and the wind, the whispers on the wind, what do they say, what they say? Younger girl, everybody's saying younger girl. And now that he's on the stage flirtily singing, he's flurtly singing with maybe a guitar player or something and everybody's seeing it. I know. Again, it is possible that they just, the love is gone. And sometimes the love is gone and that's okay. And, and, but he is, all these headlines about him flirtily singing to. another girl and I'm like, maybe he's just performing, you guys. I hate to defend

performing. Don't put me in the position to defend Keith Urban, but he might just be performing a love song. He might, yeah, you might just be. I do love that accusation though. I get somebody. He's you, flirting on the stage. He sang it lovingly. He looked at others last singing and then you know you super saying and then everything goes crazy

you know what is also insane we got through all of page 7 did not bring up the Selena Gomez and Benny Benny Beni

Beni Inez Benny Bravo Benny Benio I forget her last name Blanco yeah Benny Blanco

I forget his last name I just know that he kind of looks like you know the caveman that used to be

on those commercials but like in a like in a wonderful like he's a wonderful man to her and everything. Like, I love all their interviews that they do. The interviews they do with each

other is, like, they really love each other. And I, and you know, I love love. And I love their love. Yeah. I will throw it out there that I do think it's interesting that a lot of the articles that are coming out about Selena Gomez's wedding are about Taylor Swift going to her wedding. Yeah. And I think that kind of sucks.

I agree. I also like, okay, that does suck because it should be about Selena Gomez. At the same time, I also think it is very funny that there are so many articles describing this as a Hollywood royal wedding. And to that, I have to say them, you know, specifically him. Like, she is Hollywood. Like, yeah, I'll give Selena Gomez Hollywood royalty. Like, uh, uh, yeah, or what I? Yeah.

Okay. Sure. Pop music. She's a star. She's an A-lister. And she's, especially with, you know, uh, bags, bags on the. on the ground. Murders and buildings.

Murders of the building. Oh, she's so good at murders in the building. I love her. She's so good at it. And Benny Blanco, but Benny Blanco did like produce, you know, diamonds. He produced Kesh and TikTok.

He's a big behind the scenes, man. He's a big deal. I mean, so I do feel that maybe Hollywood royalty, like that phrase, I feel like that is usually saved for like a brand gelina back in the day. That's all I mean, right. And I do completely understand.

stand and wow, oh, that's why Ed Shearin talked. He also worked on a bunch of Ed Shearin's music, too, because Ed Shearin and Taylor Swift gave a speech at the wedding. And I will say, though, too, on the opposite end of this, while everybody is a lot of, there are a lot of articles being like, Taylor was glowing. Did you see Taylor? Did you see Taylor? And everything's about Taylor. And this one person was talking to the media about seeing Taylor and gushing about Taylor and just being like, And when she walked in the room, everyone's breath stopped. And don't talk about somebody like that. On someone else's wedding day. It's like how you're not supposed to wear white on someone else's wedding day. I don't think you can be Taylor Swift on someone else's wedding day. You know what I mean? It's not that you can't talk like this.

Go tell all your fucking friends. But it's like you're going to go run to BuzzFeed to be like, and I get to talk to Taylor Swift. Like that's what you want to be known for. Yeah. Come on. I just feel like it's kind of a bad look, especially because Taylor is dropping her album tomorrow. So I feel like that, you know what? This is where my self-hating side of the Swiftydom comes from.

And this isn't on Taylor. It's not Taylor's fault that everybody's talking about her. Right. I maybe would have, like, I don't know, hid a little bit more. Or does that make it like more lucid? Like is that more like, oh, but then she's hiding at the way. Like I don't know what she's supposed to do. I know. I don't go.

Do you not go? It actually does kind of make me feel bad. Bad for Selena Gomez that all of the headlines about her wedding or about Taylor Swift. And also a little bad for Taylor Swift that again, it's just like just by being there, you're kind of ruining the wedding for someone else. Right. And that's not what I'm sure what she's asking to do. Totally.

Not her fault. Yeah, no, sometimes a celebrity is annoying because of who they are. And sometimes they're annoying because of all the discourse that surrounds them. And sometimes it's both. And I follow a couple of people who are big swifties on Instagram. And these people are, I mean, happy, you know, life of a showgirl week to all who celebrate. She put out a schedule. Did you know that she put out the time card of a showgirl?

Have you met Holden McNeely, MJ? I don't talk to even up anymore. Oh, my God. Yeah, no, it's the countdown. Yeah, there's all days and days. It's like we're going to like a college reunion and you get like an agenda, you know, and you're like, first you have to do this and then you go to the welcome center and get your name placard. Oh, yeah.

You know, it's like that. This is a whole like, yeah, we got to go meet all the TAs and get it's like a rush week, I guess, where it's like, but did you wear the cardigan today? We wear the cardigan on Thursday, you know. And I'm not even necessarily saying this. in a bitchy way. Like I, we all, I think that oftentimes as adults, we long to feel part of a group the way that you are kind of parts of groups when you're young. And so I think that's something to keep us going, MJ. I mean, I think. And I guess if you don't have anything else and this is what you have, then I say, you got to have something. At least it's music. It's like, nobody's getting hurt. Like, at least it's something that is just like, you know, that's for you. Yeah. There's no fascism as far as I can tell, you know, so that's nice. I don't know. We never know. It's like, do you trust a billionaire? I don't know. Right.

There is the billionaire thing. But yeah, yeah, yeah. But we know that she is good to people and seems like has a good heart overall. Yeah. And I do think that, yeah, I'm like, I, again, I'm a recovering hater. And I'm trying to let people have their month, their week, their schedule. And I do, you know, people, again, people get a lot of meaning from the groups they are a part of. And I am happy that people have found a group to be a part of with the Swifties.

And I think that we should recognize that when people have a pop thing they like. They get meaning from being in a collective with somebody. This is why K-pop Demon Hunters is so fun. My kids said the other day they played K-pop Demon Hunters on the morning announcements. And my kids were like, every single kid in the class was singing. And she was like, one of my kids was like, even the kids who don't like it were singing. And it's like I think that that's, it's like a collective, you know, we talk all the time on the show about like mass, how mass, there's no real mass culture anymore.

And I think that when there is, there's like a thrill to being part of something with a lot of other people. And I do think that that is what makes, like, Taylor is so good at that. Is it sometimes annoying because it's like you have to have a movie and a sweater and a record at another movie and a, sure. But like the thrill of doing something with a squad is something that we all long for. Oh my God, MJ, you even saying K-pop Demon Hunters, I completely forgot. So Natalie and I went to the Starfall Ball.

this last weekend. Yeah. And if you're ever intrigued in one of these fairy romantici events, definitely check out Fantasticique. Fantastique is the company that we like to work with. And they're really great people that are putting on really wonderful, beautiful spaces for people to come together and be themselves and dress up and make your own costumes and everybody support and everybody. But there was a moment when we're dancing in this big hall and we all have these gowns on and everybody's just decked to the nines and then golden starts to play and everybody lost but then even Natalie was like dancing and they're just like what is this and I was like it's game a demon and then I well like everybody just like lost their minds it was such a wonderful

pure like it's things like why I like to go to these kind of events besides the fact of it gives you a reason to go dress up and be with a bunch of people that like the stuff that you like. I mean, I was dressed up as the Viper Queen, which is a like smallish character in Crescent City, which isn't even the biggest of the like series out there. And so many people knew who I was dressed up as. And it was like that guy to think, I was like, my people, you know I'm the Viper Queen. This is great. I love that. I love that. And also Golden is a banger. But I love Natalie being like, why does everyone in the room know all the words to the song. And she's like, why don't I? Because Natalie also does listen to a lot of pop music. So she was like, is this a big song that I didn't get? And I'm like, you just haven't watched

K-pop Demon Hunters, which makes sense. I know that I think it's really is, man, it's that crazy stigma that it's like, it's 2025 guys. We understand that some kids stuff is great for everybody. Right. Right. And it's a man, the album is a banger. The whole thing. I'm sorry, I'll stop talking about K-pop being home. I know that we've talked about it enough. I just, I really was, it's every time when people are like, you're going to love it, just trust me, you're going to love it. And I'm like, okay,

all right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I, I mean, you know, I'm in season two of Hannibal and, and, whoa, man, the episode we watched last night, bo, bo, bo, boom. Sometimes everyone's right. Sometimes everyone's right. The, the eroticism, I, man, okay, I don't want to give

anything away, but there was just like the scene where let's say, like, he's, like, he's bad and he's got like crazy brain but then he finds somebody that like is could work for him and then they're also they're both bad and he's like helping him out but then he's like this nurse and he's this oh prisoner and oh it's like oh this is not oh but they're talking about killing and oh they're and i you know surprisingly like even just like a mads mickleson the guy that plays Will, I don't even know his name. I didn't out the gate find them attractive.

And now I am devastating. Like every time they're in a scene together, I'm like, Oh, yeah. Like just watching them and the tension between. It's nerds, y'all. Yeah, Beds Mickelson is a surprising crush. It really sneaks up on you. You're like, that guy, everybody thirst for that guy.

And then 10 minutes later, you're like, I understand. stands. Yes, dude. I really, because watching the first season, I know this is, this is a sad thing to admit. I was like, I don't want to bang either one of them. So I don't know if I'm going to get into this as much. But I said that they're Jeff and Jeff's like, I don't want to bang them and I love this show. And I'm like, I'm like, I mean, I like their homoeroticism, but I, he's like, that's not really the reason why you start watching Hannibal. But it's, um, it's upsetting. Oh yeah. Did Gideon watch Hannibal? Yeah, we watched it together. How did he? This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is the thing it's like there are a lot of very upsetting very very very upsetting I think I have a harder time with like the explicit violence like that and I think what really Gideon has a hard time with is like monsters like and ghosts and demons he you know we watched the exorcist and he like lit I would wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and he would just be like awake walking around he really gets very scared of like I get scared like I had to stop watching Luther,

Luther with Idris Elba because it was just too much like realistic violence against women. This was years and years ago. I don't know if anyone even remembers that show. Oh, okay. I don't like. Oh, I remember Louva.

I just don't like like realistic violence. Not that Hannibal is realistic violence, but like Gore is not my favorite. And I think that Gideon is like, okay. I don't think that that's what gets him. What gets him is truly is the spooky. And spooky doesn't like the extra, I can watch The Exorcist and I mean,

I get scared and everything, But I'm not like, I don't take it with me afterwards. But yeah, when Gideon was a kid, he would like. Especially with monsters and stuff. When Gideon was a kid, he would read like werewolf stories and scary, you know, scary stories and then just stay up all night in a panic. And that is still his relationship with it. Do you think it's maybe because maybe he's sexually attracted to them and maybe makes him make some weird?

Maybe I should introduce the monster fucking to him and see if that disarms. If he ever wants to explore, just let me know, tell me what kind of feel. Like if this is a way in which he could maybe work through some of these feelings, you know, maybe this is just a different way so that he doesn't have to be scared anymore. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe the tentacles are going to hold you up against the wall while you have sex with the shadow demon. Yeah. You don't know.

Like, he didn't even know he had tentacles to begin with. But what is, I feel like sometimes, I know that it's not a stretch all the Easter eggs for all the Taylor Swift stuff. I know that she plans all this stuff. But there are times where it's like, okay, she's releasing Life of a Showgirl on October 3rd. And everyone's like, it's because it's 10.3. And I was like, oh, it's because it's 10.3. And I had to look this up and it's like because her number is 13.

And I was like, oh, because it's 10.3. Okay, that makes it. And I was like, well, why not on the 13th? But it's 10. It's 3. It's 10. It's 3. But it has nothing to do with the year.

Year does not matter. or it's only the 10 to 3. So that is. And I find it interesting that a lot of people are like, and she released it early in Q4 so that she can, so it's a good promo. I'm like, who's talking about Q4? Get that.

Get out of here. I don't want the phrase Q4 in with my pop music discussion. No. I just, I know that's not the Easter egg that everybody gets excited about. It's just these are the things I see randomly in articles. I'm just like, what is it happening? Like, yeah, what's happening over here?

But sorry, I'll move on. I know that this is maybe just coming from someone that might be forced to go to the viewing party this weekend. I'm not sure yet. I hope you guys have a great time and I think it's going to be cool. I do wish hold of us here because I want to ask him about how Apple music, apparently there was a bunch of random capital letters throughout her lyrics yesterday out of nowhere, which is she loves to send a little message with her capital letters. And I do think that is so silly, but also totally fun. And I, you know, who am I to hate? You know, I think you want to send weird serial killer messages through your lyrics like that every time.

That's your thing that you do. Zodiac it up. Do it. Yeah, man. Get into it. Yeah, good for you, girl. Wow. Honestly, it is spooky season.

So maybe she's just trying to pull a little bit. She should start sending like really crazy, like cut out the letters to the newspapers. Yeah, she should escalate. And yeah, and start making threats. I know, maybe not threats, maybe like promises. Like you should call them promises instead. And it's just things like what will or will not happen rapture-esquely if you do or do not by the album. And I think that that's something that we should take down to the letter.

And man, if we're speaking about letters, that letter is F full fat bear week. It's fat bear week. No, I did not remember it was October, but I did remember that it was Fat Bear Week. It's Fat Bear Week. Give it up for Fat Bear Week, everybody. And we are, it is, man, the competition is steep out here this year, guys. They are bigger than before. But are they better?

And for those of you that don't remember, because I feel like I do bring this up every year. You know. Okay, good. All right. If I'm not bringing it up here, I'm certainly bringing it up in my everyday life. Because I, if there is a year we need it more. Oh, baby. Not since all the way back in 2020 did we have a year as bad as this year. So, you know, we need to be looking at these are the Alaskan brown bears that are they go to get their last rush of salmon before they go to hibernate. And everybody, you know, they're watched throughout the year. But then this is, we're trying to see who's the biggest one before they go hibernate.

Are you rooting for Chunk or are you rooting for Grazer? I'm sorry. It's very difficult because Grazer is the mother. And the mother, Grazer has won, I think, for the last two or three years. Last two years, yeah, Grazer is the fave to win. But everybody's been talking about Chunk. And they said, Chunk's coming up from mine. and he is hungry.

Chunk's got a broken jaw. He's got a, you know, a disability impacting his ability to fatten up, and he's still in the game. And I think that we should recognize that. Thank you. Let's lift him up. I raise that bear up. I want to hear him up on mountains.

I'll raise him up so he can go eat salmon. And he broke his jaw. Talk about an underbear story. Underwear! If that bear has underwear on, on, I've got a couple of questions. Okay, well, we can keep talking about Fat Bear Week if you want, but I am thirsting desperately to talk about J. Lowe opening up about the divorce.

This is me not. It's Divorce week here at page 7. Divorso. Don't divorce so at us. It might be Fat Bear Week, but it's also Divorso Week. And Jenny from the block is speaking out. about the divorce and she's saying that it's good and that it's you know she's fine she's fine she's a different person now and i don't know if you guys remember but jackie and holden and i did watch this is me dot dot now a love story but then what was the name of the other one the greatest

love story never told even though it was told it was definitely told in the thing not only did she tell but also it was a story we've heard before. Like it is. Many times. Many times. And that was the documentary. This is me now is the music video slash movie. And the greatest love story never told is the documentary about making the music video slash movie.

And that documentary is basically a documentary of why they got divorced. It's really like I think the three of us were really emotionally shaken by it. It's like Ben Affleck is just begging her. Please don't do this. Please. Like let's just enjoy our time together. You know, it's really a story of blind ambition. But again, you know, we're talking over here about Nicole Kidman's blind ambition shouldn't have been a problem in their marriage.

So you're right. Why am I citing with Ben Affleck over here? Because I saw the behind the scenes and I saw him begging her to stop sharing their private life in the movie. Please stop. Please stop. And she did not. And she wouldn't. But don't worry, she did it for a D-level experience.

But what really excites me that I didn't even realize is that. she doesn't sing in Selena! I have to remind myself that she doesn't sing in Selena every single time. I get excited about something else J-Lo is going to be in because she's about to be in the adaptation of Kiss of the Spider-Woman. This is exciting. I think it's very exciting because I love Kiss of the Spider-Woman, and I am, I shouldn't be hopeful.

I shouldn't be hopeful about it, MJ. J-Lo is good in movies. Sometimes she's had enough. And when she's had enough, I will watch it. I love J-Lo in movies. I love our music also. I'm pro-J-Lo.

I just didn't like the greatest love story never told, or this is me dot-da-d-not-now a love story. But I think that she's going to be great. She needs a project that doesn't involve Ben Affleck, you know. And so that's why I have high hopes for this. Yes, you are very correct. And I hope that this is a new, like, shuttle for her. And it's not going to be like the shuttle that Katie Perry took up into outer space.

That also led to divorce. Although I guess they weren't ever married, which I keep getting wrong. I keep calling that a divorce, but I think Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom were married. I feel like when you have that many like assets together, I feel like even if you're not governmentally divorced, you have to divorce all your things. It's going to be expensive no matter. I feel like I just hear the word divorce and I just hear, oh, you're going through an expensive, upsetting time. And that's what I. all I know about divorce that it's expensive, and I imagine this has been a very expensive year

for both Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially with Katie Perry losing so much with the tour and everything. And it's just like, oh, man. I think I'm having a rough year. And then at least, at least I'm not on a platform in front of millions and millions of people doing that choreo, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. No, that's true. But General Lopez is having a tough time. She's having to give it up for her. But also she's okay. And she's saying that she's a different person now. And I guess my follow question to that is, are you a person who would respect your partner's wishes for privacy? I think that we know why they broke up.

And it was that. And so that I think that's really the key question. But also maybe she should just be single for a while. Maybe she should just be single for a while. And I do appreciate in this, like in her now starting to get back into the PR circuit because Kiss of a Spider Woman is going to be coming out eventually. So we're going to be hearing more about J-Lo right now. So she just went away and was lick, lick, lick in those wounds and now is going back in the circuit. But I wonder if she did learn more since the last time all of this happened because I feel like she's not dragging him as, you know, I feel like what we did.

see in the documentary was she really wished that, or that he wished that she wouldn't share so much. And it seems like she's not sharing that. Like she's just talking about herself. She's just saying I'm a better person. I'm not even better. I'm a different person. She says it was the best of times and the worst of times. Every moment on set, every moment I was doing this role. I was so happy. And then back home, it was not great. It was like, how can I reconcile this? But I guess that's not really a dig at him. She's just talking. And also it's not giving details either. Yeah. Yeah. She's not reading his private love letters. They got divorced, so I mean, obviously, they weren't having a good time.

Yeah, no, you're right, you're right. It's okay for her to talk about her own internal struggles, of course. It was the problem was that she kept sharing his internal struggles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was not nice, but. No, but we're happy for her. We are. And maybe J-Lo and Nicole Kidman can get together, have a Kiki and start really like, let's build each other up.

And not in the way that the tool time girls were not expected to do. Wow, was she talking about home improvement? Yes, she is. Why is she? Is it because she did send, ew. Not that I was excited about it, but I did make a lot of jokes because I saw that. Everybody loves Raymond. Don't worry.

They're having a 30th reunion. MJ, I know your jaw is on the floor. Calm down. It's going to be coming out in just a little bit. Calm down. Stop being so excited about it, MJ. So I think that it's really good that home improvement talk is, also coming up.

Because this I included, obviously, because we just read the memoir. We just read the Pam Anderson memoir. Yeah. And we did discuss in celebrities talking about Tim Allen showing his dick to her the first day on set. Piece of shit then. Because he's like, I saw yours. You should see mine. Letcherous piece of shit now.

Like, we know that he's just like an awful person now. And yeah, Pam Anderson's memoir confirms he was an awful person. then. Yes, yeah. And even just that snapshot of him. It's just like, wow. Okay, really says a lot about your character, no matter how old you are, which I think he was in his probably 40s. So really not a whole lot of excuses. But this was just a story that probably most people don't care about. It was, if you guys remember Home Improvement, Pam Anderson was the tool time girl on tool time. And like, she was the one that was just like, here you go, Tim, and would walk out and give him a utensil. What are they?

Tool. Tool. It's a tool time. The utensil. You know, the chopsticks that he uses. And she was, of course, Pam Anderson moved on fast because her star was rising. They brought in Deb Dunning to replace her. And that as Pam Anderson got bigger, literally they went to this poor woman who was being the tool time girl.

And was like, yeah, I think we're going to bring, like, Pam in everyone. in a while. Just, you're not really doing it as well as Pam Anderson. That's hot as Pam Anderson. I know. And she cried. And she just cried and cried. And so she's talking about this now.

And I feel, I just wanted to say this story just to be like, that sucks. Can you imagine replacing Pam Anderson? And then every, not only do you already not feel that great about yourself because you're replacing Pam Anderson. And no matter what, it's Pam Anderson. And then for them to be like, well, we're just going to switch you out. once in a while. So, fine with you.

Also, she had just had a baby. Yes. So she's like, oh my, like, which even if you aren't feeling profoundly insecure for not being Pam Anderson, you're like, you know, emot, your hormones are making you psychotic. Yeah. But she had just had a baby. She's like, new in this job. And they're like, we really desperately miss the hotness of Pam Anderson.

Yeah. And this is like a scar she carries to this day, you know. So I never, I missed. missed home improvement. I was not my, it was not my, like it was literally on before, say by the bell, I think, or before one of the ones I would watch. Oh, and you still didn't. I didn't care. I was like, I don't care about tools. No. I don't like this guy, Tim Allen. I watched, I've seen every episode a thousand times. I think that it was just one of those shows that my mom liked. So every time it was on, it was usually on one of the televisions in the home.

And, yeah, and of course, JTT, that was, you know, I feel like we were, we had to watch it. I, you know, I'm going to throw it out there. JT.D. was never my thing. you, the older brother guy, the other guy, was he? There was a number of blonde boys there, weren't there? You know, I'm going to be real with you, MJ, and I'm not just saying this for the shock value. I think I was really intrigued by Wilson Wilson. And Wilson Wilson, if for those of you not aware, was the neighbor character that you

would never see his face, you would only ever see his eyes. Oh my God, is this why I'm inter Hector that lives in the vents and date everything? Hector that lives in the vents and he won't show himself to me but all I can see are his hands and I hear his beautiful voice and I see his eyes and I'm like, show yourself to me

show yourself to me and I will say I did play through it I'm not gonna spoil anything and undate everything but it's all coming back it's all coming back to me now I it's Wilson Wilson all right and maybe that it was

I dare say even like the smatterings of the beginnings of Monster fucker dumb because it's like, what was he? Yeah. He was just a human. He was a human neighbor. What was he? Oh, this is, I don't share this with you, but I am happy for you.

He was so sage. Like, I never wanted to have sex with Mr. Feeney either, but now that I'm older, it's like, or, I mean, was he the greatest teacher? It's also like, where's your life? Yeah. Yeah, no. Mr. Feeney needed more boundaries with the students. I mean, I know he lived next door, so it's hard to, like, maintain those boundaries.

But, like, you should. not be that involved with your students last. So did Wilson Wilson and we never saw his fucking face. So I think that we could take a page out of his book. Thank you, Wilson Wilson. Yeah. It is, what a, what a cruel joke to name your child's first and last name, same names, you know? I feel like there's a couple of, no, I was going to say there's a couple of good examples of this and then I thought humbred, humbert from Lolita. And that's not a good example. So, um, great example. That's not a good example. That perfect example.

I think it's a perfect example of, you know, maybe it did something too, yeah, to have your first and your last name, be the same. Maybe it changes the course of your life in some manner. Yeah, I would assume that would. Okay. I really want to talk about dancing with the stars, but also maybe since we're talking about reunions, I just want to give a quick little shout out to this. I think this story is so fucking cute that Eliza Dushku, who you. may know as Faith from Buffy and also, of course, from Bring It On and just being like the general

hot girl in like every good movie from the late 90s to the early 2000s, like a stellar career on Elijah Dushku. And she just went to grad school and became a licensed behavioral therapist and counselor. And so she missed the Bring It On reunion because she was at work. And I love this for her. I love this for her. I love this for her. love this for her, this second life. Yes, maybe because I'm in grad school to become a counselor, but that's not even it. I just, we always talk about, like, what if famous people just, like, did acting when it was fun for them and made that money?

And then maybe they just, like, don't have to keep doing it. And they could do something else that's meaningful to them. And she's just doing something else that's not only meaningful to her, but, like, important to the world. And she had this Instagram post that was like, have fun, guys. I miss you, sending all the love. So happy to be part of this movie. but I just started my new job and I love it.

And I just think that that is so wonderful and so rare to see a star that's like, I'm just going to do something else. Yes. And honestly, it is good. It's so wonderful to support that because I feel like life is long. And there are many stages of life. And I think that when you're in a certain stage, you think that it's going to last forever. But if there's one thing that is constant in life, it's change.

Honestly, I was just thinking about this just yesterday because a Lil Nas X song came on one of my playlists. And I was thinking about him. And I was so set that it's like his star rose so fast. Yeah. And now for those that are unaware, he had been arrested. And it seemed like it was some sort of break. I don't know what it was brought on. But I have not, I don't really know.

Yeah. And he was a treatment now. Bad case of criminalizing what was obviously a mental health need. Yes. And, yeah, justice for Lonezax. Yes. That was, he got, he's, he's been done dirty so frequently and so many times. But yes, this is a good, he was so young.

He was catapulted to fame so quickly. It's obviously been like really challenging for him. He came out early in that process. Right. You know, it's, but yeah, yeah. It's so, that and also it's like the, I don't know if you're familiar with Lola Young. Lola Young is a one of the huge hit song messy. You've definitely heard the song messy before.

Lola Young just released another album. I really liked, I really liked her music. I loved her vibe. I loved everything. And we watched her a lot on Jackin. And she just recently collapsed during a show. Yeah, I could see this. And then she now has put out publicly that she's taking a break.

And she's canceling her. tour and she's like, I'm so sorry. I need to go take care of myself right now. Nothing else was really put out about it. She just straight up was like, I can't do this. And hopefully I'll be. And all I could think in my brain was, I hope she finds her way back into the cycle of, like, of music celebrity dumb, or just of people listening to her music because we know that we're told so much in this business. that it's like, once you get it, you better keep going or you're going to lose everything. And it's people like the Tom Hollins out there that now is like going on more of like a PR circuit.

But he's like desperately trying. He's like, I worked straight for like six years without any break. And then I'm going to take some time for myself. And I'm going to do what I want to do for a while. I'm going to go hang out with Zendaya. I'm going to go do what I. And he publicly was like, so. I'm in a piece for a little bit.

Yeah. And now he's coming back around, which he's a huge star. So, of course, he's going to come back around and he's not going to go too far because his star rose so far and also maintained for such a long time. Yeah. But I guess I don't know where I'm going with all this. It's just to say that remembering that there is a season turned. Totally. Yeah.

And like you don't have. Yes, totally. And there is this language around like being washed up or like being a half, you know, just like I feel like to be Eliza Dushku's age, to be to have to have become famous at such a young age. And then, you know, there's just, the way we all talk about this is like, oh, what did they, where did they end up? Like, what did they do? Like to keep producing, keep producing. And I just really love when a star is able to be like, I don't have to keep producing to be like worthy of love and worthy of being a human being. And what does that feel? Yeah, right. If I could get a little bit of that. I saw this great Instagram reel that I shared recently that was totally different context, not talking about celebrities at all, but it was about like people with disabilities with high support needs and somebody had said something awful about like people who don't contribute to society and this person, this like autism speech therapist and advocate

who I really like was like, we're not on this earth to produce. We are on this earth to be and we're on this earth to live. And like, that's it. We don't have to judge somebody based on what they contribute to society. And you're calling me out right now? Yeah. And I'm glad you brought up Lil Nas X because we hadn't talked about it. And yeah, Matt Bernstein, who I just absolutely love, had a great post about this on Instagram where it's just like, you know, Lil Nas X has been under this tremendous pressure. He's financially responsible. His dad is saying, like, that this health crisis was probably brought on by his being, feeling financially responsible for his family. Put on him, yes.

And he's so young, you know, and so yeah, I want him to take and think. And he was charged with like four felonies from this mental health episode. But yeah, right now the- Well, he was having the episode, so he was resisting arrest. Right. Like, it was actually not that far from where I live. He was walking down the middle of a very busy street in, I believe, underwear and boots. And he was, it's very, it's very.

It's very upsetting. It's the whole, I just wish him so much luck. I just hope that he's surrounded by the right people and that he's going to get the help that he needs. And I hope that he knows that he doesn't have to do anything except just keep being alive and taking care of himself. If we could all take a page out of the fat bears books, all right? All right. All they're thinking about is, oh my God, my jaw is broken. How am I going to eat all this salmon? All right?

That's what we should be thinking about. But you know what hilarious is thinking about Jackie? Because I'm pretty sure. Stop me if I already complained about this. I know last week I complained about the fact that they put her in with like the bottom three. And she was like, can we not do that again? But then I think this happened after we recorded, which was that there was a inter, it was still from two weeks ago, but there was like an Instagram real that they put out of her being interviewed after the show.

And she is just going on and on and on about how the fans demanded her and everything. And Gleb. Demanded her. Gleb looks like he wants to KHS. He looks so upset. Someone told me to start saying he looks like he's requesting his bathing

toaster. Oh, rather than as I do. And I've been trying to, you know, we're trying not to say KMS anymore. So what do we do? We'll just get more creative with it. Bring me my bathing toaster. And I now say that to Jeff

whenever I'm upset about something. Bring me my bathing toast. Gleb looks so upset. And maybe Gleb just has like a bitchy neutral face. It's possible. But it is, I shared this real because it was, she is just talking and talking and talking about herself, talking about herself, talking about it. He looks so annoyed.

Although I need to get more information from our friend Cass. Cass is my inside baseball and dancing with the stars because she's watched it since the beginning of time. And so like I didn't even real, like I didn't understand that there was like themed weeks. I didn't even understand like. And I was like, oh, okay, so this is a TikTok thing. But apparently, Cass was saying like, man, if you ever get into the blinds of what celebrities were banging what dancers, oh, it is thick. And apparently Gleb is a big part of that.

Dirty dog. Hergies might be a bit of a dirty dog. But maybe not with Hilaria. Maybe he's like, this one I won't, though. Alec, you can keep her. I'd rather her be further. away for me. Oh, it's so, and she, I am completely conspiracy

pilled on Hilaria now. I, I, she should not be there. She's too experienced of a dancer. She did great this week. And she's like, and all the judges were like, she's really trot, man. She's just, with the plastic smile on her face. And just like, the way, it's just, she, you know,

this is surprising what I'm about to say. We know that Whitney and Jen Affleck from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. We know they both want it so fucking bad. Oh yeah. Whitney is ready to kill for it. But I will throw it out there. Both of them, fabulous performances.

Fabulous. I'm shocked by how good Whitney is. I'm shocked. Oh my God. I don't. I don't even like hate Whitney anymore, but I'm just like, I'm upset. I didn't even hate her after season two of Secret Lives and Mormon wives, but I am upset with how good she's doing. Like, I don't know why.

I was happy for her the week one. And now I'm like, how are you this good? But it's fine. She's doing great. She danced to shake your ass. And then they like, it was honestly, very, it was impressive what they can put together in a week. And I will throw that up there. It is impressive.

I just, I love dancing with the stars so much. I watch it with Gideon and I'm just like talking through the entire thing. I'm like, look. It's like, I'm so excited. And again, he's silent. He's looking at his phone. And he's trying to be encouraging. And he's like, yeah, is this good?

At least you have that. That's why I've been texting with Cass because I'm just. I'm sitting there mouth agape being like, how do I feel about Dylan Ephra? My God. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. With the smooth moves, Jesus Christ.

But I've got no one. And we're not trying to talk about Dancing with the Stars every episode, every second helpings for 20 minutes. I know that. That's why we saved it till the end. But we must. We got to. There's many stars, okay?

This is a celebrity gossip show and there are many celebrities there. And, but yeah, hilarious, she's too good. All the feedback was like, you're basically like a professional dancer, so we're going to give you feedback like a professional dancer. And then she's still cried. She cries all the time. She's just like, you know, sometimes you just see someone and you hear them talk and you're like, oh, you're crazy.

We already knew this about her, obviously. We know she's crazy. But every time she talks, she gives crazy girl at the bar. You know, she is that. She's got Nancy from the craft's eyes. Oh, yes. You know, when somebody is so attractive and then you just like make eye contact with them, you're like, oh, I see what's going on.

And there, whoa, windows of the soul. How about we get some shutters? No, thank you. But then also Robert Irwin danced with his shirt off. And I think, I'm sorry, I got to say it here. Robert Irwin is a fundamentally non-sexual being. I think he is just a sweet alligator-loven man. And you can take your shirt off, buddy, but it doesn't mean you're sexual.

And I say this with love. I did love the performance. It was a great performance. And I think that he has got the zaz. He does. And they were like, keep your shirt on. You don't need to do any gimmicks, you know, which I agree with. You're right.

But there, you know, we said this after watching the first episode, that now that we're in episode three, and I'm like, oh, my God, with the rigidity of his arms. And oh, my God, the length of that leg. And oh, my, and just how quickly you now, now I know everything about dance, even though straight up And now with the samba, and I'm like, I don't know what the difference is. I feel like all the dances are the same. But I know that they're not. Oh, please don't yell at me.

I know that all the dances are obviously, you're not the same. I can hear Natalie screaming at me. I know that they're all the same. I'm doing the same thing. I'm acting because I love dance. And there are certain types of dance I know about ballroom is not a genre. I know anything about. But I'm over here being like, this is, I'm talking to Gideon, like, this one's really

technically expert. And I'm like, what am I talking? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where. where all the different stance, you know, they all have different countries of origin. They all have different things that are important about them. And I don't know it.

And I'm acting like I do because I just love the choreo. I'm in it for the love of the game. But I don't have the knowledge. Also, not fair that Andy Richter was all the way at the bottom. He is getting better every week. He is. All right. He is, okay, maybe he's not as talented dance-wise, but he is, like, and he's trying in a way, not like Hilary is trying.

He's trying, like, Hilari is doing it as if, like, she's going to rip out her own teeth when she doesn't win. Definitely. Andy Richter is trying to have a great time. And you can see that he is, like, I mean, a different kind of zaz, a different kind of fun. It just puts a smile on my face. And honestly, I do agree with you with Robert Irwin. He is a child in my brain. So even watching the dance, but I tried, I did definitely, I mean, I watched the dance.

dance two or three times. I didn't, you know, I definitely watched it a couple of times. Well, did you see that there's a lot of people watching the end over and over because they think that Whitney from Secret Lives and Mormon Lives was not sad enough when the person from this week went home and she went up to... The woman from Fifth Harmony. The woman from Fifth Harmony who also, I am going to say, she was robbed. I think she did a great job. Robbed. Robbed. Robbed. Totally robbed. Bring her back. Not fair. Not fair. I will say before she got kicked off, I had no idea. she was. Same.

Didn't know that she was in Fifth Harmony. I didn't have to look that up. I don't know Fifth Harmony very well. But she danced to a Fifth Harmony song. How sad to get kicked off when you're dancing to your own song and all of her bandmates were there and she got totally robbed. But Whitney from a Secret Lives of Mormon wives was not sad enough. And she went up to Daniel Fissel, Topanga.

And allegedly, Topanga gave her like, how dare you? And like pushed her away because she wasn't sad enough. Hell yeah, Daniel Fischer. Fuck yeah. This is the shit we come for, okay? I want to see who's fighting silently in the live performance. Also, can we just, I'm sorry to just blatantly only thirst for Jordan Childs, but wow. Oh, yeah.

Wow. She's great. Just all that strength. I forget what, oh no, it was the Dylan Ephron thing. There was this thing where it was like a leg where the leg went up over and then he like flipped her with the whole. It was, they're so strong. And they can do so much that I can. could never do. And dancing is so cool. And they learn such hard dances in such a short period of time.

I'm sorry, but dancing with the stars, it's a great show. And it's, it only took us till the 34th season to start watching it. And it has the great, just like, awkwardness. It's so halting. It's like, it has the, like, kind of poor production that you want in a live talent show, you know, like, Alfonso Roberto, bless him. He's, he's, he's great. I'm going to say watching it on YouTube, I don't really miss the Alfonso there. I'm fine with the losing the interstitials. Like a surprisingly uncharismatic host for how long he's been and how funny he is. He's obviously, and he's a talented dancer. But I'm just like, why are you acting like this is your first time hosting a show?

And same with the other girl who's there. The judges are crazy. It's just everything you want. Again, it's bringing me back to the old days of just like an awkward live talent show. Yes. It really scratches a deep itch. I just think of how nervous I would be. right before. It's like, how do they hold their arms? Like, how are they, I feel like I would just be

shaking everywhere if I was asked to do something like this. And if you're Andy Richter, you've never done ballroom dance before and now you have to do these like pretty, yeah, he's doing, this is what the show is for, okay? It's for people who can't dance and they're coming and they're learning and they're like experiencing this joy. And what Hilaria is doing is acting like she is a professional dancer, getting professional dancer feedback and he's crying about it. And she's definitely going to make it to the end. I'm already annoyed. But you know, it's good because the annoyance,

it really keeps you coming back. Although I don't need to be annoyed to keep coming back to this damn show. I know. I know. Hooked us. It has gotten us. And again, if you don't have Hulu anymore, you can watch pretty much immediately. They pop up everything.

People are getting that information onto the YouTube. So you just go over there. I'm listening to the podcast. There's a fucking podcast. What do you talk about on the podcast? I mean, do they just do what we just did? Yeah. They're just like, this dance was great.

And they're like, yeah. But is it like technical into like the pops and the wily jigs? Yeah. And then I'm Googling what does it mean to, what does a frame mean? You know, yeah. So I am trying to learn. Is that an arms thing? It has to do with how they hold each other is my understanding.

I just know. Yeah, I'm listening to the podcast. So MJ, I'd like for you, then I'm giving you a homework assignment. I want to find out what are the ones where you, your bodies are pressed up against each other. What are those dances versus, I know ballroom dancing is the one where you have to have like the extended arm and you're like barely, you're never like touching each other. You're almost like, it's almost like you're a globe and you're spinning on in like an axis.

Jackie, there are so many dancers who are just screaming right now. I think that ballroom is an umbrella category within which there are many different subcategories such as samba, tango, cha, uh, you know, um, the one where they kick and they're jumping. Fox Trot, quick step. There's many,

I think all of that falls under the category of ballroom, but I can already tell that somebody is mad at us for how we're talking about this and we welcome your feedback. This is my first time watching even like a dance kind of show,

so I'll take your ire. If you need to get your ire out because we don't know what ballroom dancing is, you know when at this point, I'll take it. Just send it over, page of a podcast, GM.com. You got to get it out. Don't put it at your family. Well, we can handle it.

We all need to scream at someone. Oh, right now, we all need to scream at someone. I wonder. Find someone worthy to scream. How much, if you work at a break room, like, you know, a break everything room, I'd love to hear from you. Are you like, are your sales skyrocketing? Like, is this like, I keep thinking, I'm like, do I need to go to one of those rooms and take a bat to a bunch of shit? And I know that I would if I could.

But I can't. So I guess I won't. I know. Just a quick shout out to Bad Bunny, who, despite him said, you know, he had said that he doesn't, he's doing Super Bowl, despite having said that he doesn't want to do shows on the U.S. mainland because he doesn't want to put his fans at risk of getting targeted by ICE. And so ICE, the Trump administration said, well, fuck you. We're going to send ICE to the Super Bowl. To the Super Bowl. So, yeah, sometimes we need to scream.

My kids have said that they wish, because we talk a lot about, you know, emotional regulations. and feelings are okay, but we can't, you know, we have to figure out what to do with those feelings, and they have both expressed. It's like you're talking to me. Yeah. They have both expressed a wish to have a place where they could just scream as loud as they want as much as they want. They should get into podcasting. That does sound great.

Like, we have neighbors, so you can't scream as loud as you want as much as you want here in New York City because everybody can hear you, you know, and we have to try to not do that. We have to be thoughtful of our neighbors. Do they scream into the pillow? Do you ever do the scream into a pillow? suggested it, but that doesn't do it for them. When they need to scream, they just need it. Get it out. They need the world to hear. Soon they'll get into breathing regulation and that will help.

Once they get to that age where they learn, oh, I need to like breathe through this. Oh, many kids, their age can do it. But if you even suggest a deep breath to my children, it will enrage them further. And I'm upset because if you tell me to call down, yes, if I'm upset and you tell me to call down, I'm getting angry. That's a thing. It is getting them to the age where, like, they choosing it because, no, you telling someone that is in the process of spiraling to calm down or to just get over it or take a deep breath? Yeah, no, they're going to pop the fuck off.

And I was like that for many, many, many years. But now I know I need to take myself out of the situation. I need to go regulate myself because I cannot be controlled in front of other people sometimes. And I need to excuse myself and go to a restroom and breathe into a mirror. I'm mentally ill And I can't wait to be this kind of mentally ill Auntie to your children When they get to that point

There is a Simpson where Homer says If you'll excuse me And then he just steps away And then I can't If he can go into his car or a shower stall And he just screams until the windows fog up I do think that is what we all need right now We all just need to step in to excuse ourselves

And then just scream And scream and scream I just wish we could rip a time thing You know, like if we can rip into another dimension that we could pop into, this is the problem when you're reading so much, you know, romanticie when you're watching. It's like, like, if we could peacemaker, oh my God, that was the other thing I wanted to talk about. Peacemaker. Fuck, we're out of time. Let's just say.

Peacemaker, bro. Peacemaker, man. If you're not watching season two of peacemaker, get on it. Get on it. I want to talk about the reveal and the most recent episode of Peacemaker more than I want to talk about anything else. It's great. It's a great show. So good. Peacemaker is so good. Thank you for bringing up Peacemaker, Jackie.

You're so welcome. You're so welcome. We're not going to spoil it, but everybody, start watching Peacemaker. It's a lot of fun. Maybe next week we could talk about it, because I feel like it really is, it would be a fun conversation to have. If you think you don't like superhero stuff, you might like this. It is, you know I don't give a shit about most Marvel things, but. Same. Not, I don't even know if it's Marvel. I said that. Is it, is it DC? It's DC. It's DC. Oh, obviously Superman. I just heard Jeff from another dimension. Maybe that's where he is. He's another dimension watching to make sure that it's like,

You know Superman is D.C. It's okay. You know, there's a lot of information out there. And guys, you think we're supposed to remember all of it at every point in time. Sometimes you've got to be a Jojo C one. Kick somebody out of your show because they're wearing a hoodie you don't like, but we don't need to go down that road. Because there are a lot of TikToks out about it, and it wasn't that interesting.

She was at Dancing with the Stars two weeks ago, just sitting in the background right behind the hosts. And just smiling directly at the camera. I know that dance. Yeah, get me out there. Well, get me an empty bottle of fire. I'll sound going to the best of them. This is what you miss when you only watch the YouTube recap. You are right.

I do miss a lot of the people that are hanging out. And I do, is Alex still there every week looking so upset? Oh, he's there. He was there with Chris. Jenner this week for some reason. Why was she sitting with Alec Baldwin? I just want to see like a, if someone afterwards, if we could make like a cut, I just love a clip show of how upset Alec Baldwin was every time the camera was on him and dancing with us. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be preferable. All the kids are there. Oh, I bet they are. I mean, they did move the

entire family here so she could do this. So pull them out of school. Everyone's pulling their kids out of school these days. Who needs school? Honestly, with what they're teaching. And, you know, maybe pull them out. Let's get, you know, put them into trade school. If they could start trade school, if we could get them started younger, that would be great. Yeah, something tells me the Baldwinitos are not going to be going to trade school. But I might be wrong. Wish they would.

Anyway, we got to get out of here. We did talk about Dancing with the Stars longer than I expected. And it might happen every week. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry. It is celebrities. I'm not sorry either. Okay.

And every other, all the news is sad, except the bull. ballroom dance. And we think about the rigidity and the flourishes and the shirts on being unbuttoned. But it's not about that. It's about the dance. And this podcast is not about everything that's horrible. It's only about wonderful things. And thank you, everybody, even though, yeah, there was a lot of divorceo talk. There was a lot of, there, I guess, are some other things going on. And we are with you. I stand with Nicole Kidman. I'm here for you. I will do anything for you until, you know, something gets unearthed and then we all have to turn our backs and, you know, who knows when that time will come. But it's not today, babies.

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