Page 7 - Second Helpings - Everything Is An Ad

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

This week on Second Helpings, MJ and Jackie are servin' up another helpin' a haw goss', including Martha Stewart gettin' called out by her 14 year old grandkid made her actually be political, Neil Young giving Greenland the gift of Neil Young, and Barbara Corcoran faking her death with a funeral for her 70th birthday! DJ Fat Tony let everrrybody know what happened at that Beckham Peltz wedding, Jackie and Geoff watched "Atomic Blonde" and it's exactly what she wanted and MJ and Gideon started "Wonderman", then it's time for some talk about the current controversy with the Safdie bros, Gordon Ramsey and I Can't Believe Its Not Butter have a COLLAB, and Timothée Chalamet is saying he deserves the Oscar MORE THAN LEO, and MJ is starting "The Traitors"! Plus EVEN MOREEEEEEE! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

your damn right step by step slowly they turn coming right for you in your ears in your eyes in your mouths all right we won't be in two of those theme song but ominous step by step day by day day I don't remember the rest of the words I do feel like that is what we are all doing every second of every day. I do feel like, just step by step. We just got to make it through. Gonna get to you, girl. Ooh, it is ominous.

Ooh. Really, really want you in my world. Oh, but the song is called Second Time Around. Okay, sorry, I'm doing new kids on the block step by step. That's the ominous one. Second time around. Day by day, a fresh start over a different hand to play. The deeper we fall, the street.

Stronger we stay and we'll be better the second time around. Okay. It's not ominous. Not ominous. Actually, no, it's actually really nice, guys. It's nice. We should be bringing more of the step-by-step theme song into your daily lives, all right? Deepa we fall, the stronger we stay.

And we'll be better. The third world war around. And yes, we just need one more world war right in the pocket to make sure. Oh, we're really ready to live. Yeah, you know, I mean, what better time to talk about celebrities than this, because Lord knows, they're not saying anything. I will say I haven't seen one, you know, imagine there's no heaven. What's worse?

An imagine video or radio silence, right? I don't know. Because we, we've made fun a lot of the performative. solidarity, non-solidarity during the pandemic, J-Lo being like, oh, I'm trapped in the house, in my mansion, and imagine and everything. I am the disabled, remember? I am the disabled. Yes.

Maybe that's, maybe we just mocked them so much that they're like, you know what, fuck it. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. Because I know anything I say is just going to, but at this point, no, it is genuinely, God, it's just so dangerous right now. It's just so fucking... And you know what?

I know we shuddered about after the Golden Globes, but I'm going to shout out again. God bless you, Mark Ruffalo. I love... Mark Ruffalo is out on the red carpet, and they're like, Mark, what are we wearing? And he's like, they're fucking killing people in the streets. The president is a pedophile.

Yeah, just... Yeah, they're murdered her in the streets. Like, that takes a lot of balls, you know? Like, because, again, no one else is, except Martha Stewart, because she was called up by her 14-year-old granddaughter. Thank you, granddaughter. Well, has she, has she, like, been brought out of the, because I know that her granddaughter,

so Martha Stewart's granddaughter, publicly called her out for not saying anything about it. And okay, yeah, Martha Stewart gets political after urging from her 14-year-old granddaughter. Yep, she's getting political. All right. So I think, and this is actually like a pretty good, I actually think this is like a, in this Martha Stewart story, and you guys know, we love Martha Stewart. We love her for her turkey advice. We love her for her decorating advice.

We love her for her bitchitude as well. Her bickery is really what brought us in. And I thought that she went to prison, federal prison for like the bad type of white collar crime. And then I realized she was a total, you know, fall guy. And it wasn't, she's kind of, and now she's kind of a prison abolitionist. And I think that's great.

So I'm, we're team Martha over here. But I actually think this is a really good little playbook, what happened with the 14 year old. because I don't think it was a public callout. I think the fourth based on the screen check. It was a text. It was a private text. And her granddaughter said,

I'm not sure it's excusable to not be speaking up right now. Wow. I didn't realize it was a private. This is a really, you know, while I think a lot of people, it's like, a little fucking wait. I do feel that this is a good, like, microcosm of a way in which we can

discuss with people rather than being like, fuck you for not, which I do understand and believe me, anyone that is in my life that feels that what is going on is either fine or it doesn't bother them, I'm cutting them out of my life at this point. But I actually feel that this goes to show that there is a way of like, you know, maybe we can talk to some. Maybe we can communicate with some, where it's like she, like, obviously your granddaughter knew that Martha Stewart is against what is going on or else she wouldn't have said something like that. Right, right.

I think that's the tricky thing about this, about how to figure out how to talk to people and how to figure out how to urge people to speak out or whatever is, yeah, you have to determine who's reachable. And 14-year-old granddaughter of Martha Stewart decided that she might be reachable. And I also just think that this text is so interesting. I'm not sure it's excusable to not be speaking up right now. It's not like gentle coddling. It's not like, I wonder if you might.

But also it's not. A 14 year old too? Wow. Go off. Okay. But it's also not completely alienated. But it's not go off. It's also, it is.

It's direct. Yeah. It's just like, and it's declarative language, which is like kind of leaves it to the person. Like, I think it is not excusable to be speaking up right now. I'm just going to put that there. And then you get to decide what to do. do with it. And then she screenshot of the text, Martha Stewart's screenshot of the text and reposted it. My granddaughter wrote this to me yesterday. She's 14 and sensitive to what's going on

in our country, as we all should be. I'm just heartened and sad each and every day that we cannot demonstrate our sympathy for the beleaguered. We are told immigrants, you know, every time somebody does decide to like finally speak out, I do always wish that they are specific. Like I am laughing at the people who are just like, I'm solidarity. My heart hurts for Minnesota. And I'm like, I'm so, that's a great place to start. But what we should be saying is my heart hurts for the immigrants and people of color who are being tortured by federal agents in Minnesota. But again, we all have to start somewhere.

And also for the people openly being murdered in the streets. And the people who are trying to help those people and then being executed in the streets. Exactly. So specificity is our friend here. How about the, you know, the sensitive care detention camps? Guys, they're really trying to keep those babies in those camps. But again, Martha Stewart said she does even get more specific. She says even in peaceful demonstrations, we can be attacked and even killed by federal

troops. So I think we, I think that Martha Stewart... I do wish she said murdered, but that's fine. You know, it is, but again, we'll take it from her. You know, and I haven't checked Ina Garten's feed. I'm not sure she has spoken out, which unfortunately means that Martha has taken the lead. She's taken the lead. The INA versus the race that has been ongoing in our brains for the last decade and a half.

Yes. And I do feel that like it is now, I don't want to say this in such a cynical way, but I do feel that now the celebrities are seeing, oh, so before speaking out was going to hurt my money, but now not speaking out is going to hurt my money. That's 100% it. I mean, it is still, we all know this. It is all still about money. Like, I'm so happy that Olivia Rodrigo spoke out. I'm so, that is so wonderful. Chopperon's out there.

They're speaking out. And, of course, still absolute radio silence from Taylor Swift. But I imagine, you know, her team is really thinking about putting out an 18th edition of the last album that she put out. So she's got other things on her brain. And then reposting it, but like with like one of like the broken heart emoji, you know. She's all. Yeah, exactly. But she is also, she's planning a wedding, guys.

And we know that's difficult while World War III is starting. And, you know, it's like I, it's so hard because I also try very carefully to, like, direct my anger towards the right places and direct my energy upward and all these things, right? You're right. And it's, and this is not usually the place in which we bring all of this, but even we are at a point where it's like, it's difficult to not speak on. Yeah, it's just, you know, you get to the point, I had somebody tell me recently, somebody who was like, well, you know,

social justice is important, but don't get political. And I'm like, what's, what is a political justice? What do you mean? So like, if you're, like, if you're gonna have, just at what point, at what point?

A political justice, you mean like Neil Young, gifting his music to Greenland? Which I think this and that, there you go. You know, I'll, yeah, Neil Young, he's, he's been with it for a while. I'm down. Sorry, he's given, I didn't know if I told you. He gave free access to neil young archives.com to all of Greenland.

Give it up for Neil Young, everybody. Well, and what did he, why did he go off a Spotify? He went off a Spotify for some good reason that was political. I don't remember what it was. I think he hates all of it. It was to protest COVID. 19 misinformation. That's, I don't know.

Well, in any case, he is obviously a political guy. And that is just very, very funny to be like, Greenland. It's also days after Young went scorched shirt on Amazon and he posted a huge post called Why I Don't Use Amazon. Well, yeah, yeah. So again, these are ways in which Neil Young is deciding to contribute, which also, all right, yeah, man. Yeah.

Yeah. Love that. Love that for him. And yeah, you know, I just, I understand that not everybody's going to be a Mark Ruffalo or a Tom Morello, you know, but, or even a Bruce Springsteen. Bruce Springsteen put out a song yesterday, Minneapolis song. I'm governing dust and under a car. And it's just like, oh, this is the song you needed to put out, Bruce. You had to get this.

Oh, my God. Was I telling you about Queen of the supermarket? No. I don't know. I'm sure back in the day when the album came out that Queen of the Supermarket was on, Jeff, so it's called, the album is called Working on a Dream. It came out in 2009. Everybody knows that was Bruce Springsteen's heyday. That's not true. I do remember though when the album Working on a Dream came out and I really liked it. And there is this song on it that I became obsessed with. And it's called Queen of the Supermarket. And I, Jeff, I don't know if it's because he, like, was raised in the Bay Area, like, he's a West Coaster for life. He never really got into Bruce Springsteen. He's like, I, he's like, I do wonder if it is like, you know, because you're a New Yorker and you're just so, like, because he was. That's so funny. It goes with Jeff's aesthetic so well.

I know. He looks like a Bruce Springsteen. And he's never been into, he's like, I have nothing against it. He's like, it's just not really, I didn't grow up with it. It's not really my thing. Sure. And then I played for him queen of the supermarket, which is, like, I'm. the chorus is

I'm in love with the queen of the supermarket there's nothing I can say each night I take my groceries and I drift away and then I drift away

and it is all about how he goes to the grocery store and is in love with the checkout girl at the grocery store and how he goes to the grocery store to see the woman at the grocery store. And I think imagining Bruce Springsteen in 2009 being like, I got to get my ass to the grocery store so I can drool over this young, broad, bagging groceries.

And nobody cares about this song. But I played the entire very long song for Jeff. And he's just like, why are you doing this to me? Why are you making me listen to this? And I was like, because if you don't like Bruce Springsteen, then you have to listen to Queen of the Supermarket. Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you write a born in the USA, sometimes you write a queen of the supermarket. And one of the many things, I've said this before, but one of my, two of my favorite pieces of political art are laymise and a book called The Unbearable Linus of Being by Milan Kandera. And in both of them, like, I love that in Les Mizz, there's a whole song by Eponine, just about her crush. And it's like, girl, there is a civil war happening around you. And she's just like, but my crush, you know. And I'm like, actually, isn't that interesting?

Completely fair and real. And like life keeps going on. Think about what's going on in our lives, MJ. It's like, it's so crazy to be watching the atrocities that are currently happening and then be like, oh, but I got to make my fuck promo for my cats. Also everybody, cats watch along up on the Patreon. Cats watch a lot. That's why we all feel insane. And same with the in the unbearable eyes of being.

There's this beautiful passage where the tanks are rolling through the streets of Prague. and one of the main characters, Thomas, is just thinking about this woman that he loves and his relationship's all fucked up and he's like, I'm looking at these tanks, but I'm thinking about the woman I love and it's like, we all feel so fucking insane because we are surrounded

by nightmares and we're trying to engage, hopefully we're all trying to engage with how to help with the nightmare as much as we can, and then also we're like, and also I'm sad about my crush, you know? And also I'm sad. Also we have everyday things that are sad.

We continue to be human beings, you know? And so that's all to say that I think that Bruce Springsteen's catalog of work runs the gamut in a wonderful way. I love with the queen of the supermarket. Because he makes everything sound so important, you know? Everything. Everything he says. Just imagine him like massage in the eggs just staring at her and like, yeah. And he's writing the lyrics.

Yeah. Put me in the cot. Yeah. While we're on slight gestures towards politics, not that I think Bruce Springsteen's song actually is not a gesture. It was an actual, I'm so glad he did that. No, he did. No, that is good. It's not a queen of the supermarket.

It's not a queen of the supermarket. But talking about, I think, okay, Lady Gaga covered Mr. Rogers, won't you be my neighbor? All right? Oh, my God. And it's just, I love you. I, I, I, I follow. I think it's called the good movement or like the good, or so. Like, I follow multiple, like, Insta accounts that are just positive things.

And so many of them posted that yesterday. And I kept hearing the beginning of it and just being like, I can't. I can't deal with it. I had a huge kombucha girl meme journey about this because at first, because I'm a hater, I had an, I can't explain this. Please don't hold it against me. I had an instinctual negative reaction, which was like I was picturing. I love Lady Gaga's voice. I love her music. But I was picturing like, you know, like I think I was picturing more of a kind of like a Mariah Carey vibrato like, won't you be?

Like I didn't want, I just, I was like, I don't know if I want this. And then I saw it and I was like, of course I want this. This is great. She did wonderful. But then the only, then it was kind of a kombucha girl meme in reverse because it is a Super Bowl commercial for a real estate company. But that's, you know what? But sometimes that's the only way we get things is if it's a fucking ad. Everything's an ad. And I just have to. It's all an ad. It's time. Yeah, it's an ad. It's all an ad, MJ.

Everything is an ad. And that's okay. That is just where we are right now. But also do want to say real quick about Bruce Springsteen. I wanted to make the joke because it's that song that he wrote is called Streets of Minneapolis. And he also has a song called, On the Streets of Philadelphia. And I know that he didn't just reuse the song Streets of Philadelphia and put in the word Minneapolis.

But it would be funny if you click it and just on the streets of Minneapolis. None, no, no, no, no. And just like, that's the same thing. But apparently he did say, Bruce wrote the song on Saturday. Wow. Recorded it on Sunday, released it the following day. All right. He wrote this because of what he's like, I wrote this because in response.

to the state terror that is happening. So it's, thank you Bruce Springs, Steve. This is good. That's great. I'm eagerly awaiting whatever music will come from Craig Finn about this because, you know, the Hold Steady is one of my favorite bands. And he is,

he's, I think, one of the, I mean, so many great bands come from Minneapolis. So obviously, you talk to any Minnesotan for more than 10 seconds and they will tell you that Prince comes from Minnesota. Bob Doin comes from Minnesota. They're insufferable about it. And I love this for them. Husker do, the replacements. And, of course, the hold steady.

And so I am like, I've been listening to a lot of hold steady and crying. And then I got a text from my friend who I met in St. Paul. And he said, I'm listening to the hold study and crying. And I said, let's all listen to the hold steady and cry. And cry. And that's, you know, that's where we're at. All right. Everybody's got certain songs like that.

I feel like every once in a while, when I want to think about the X that is my city of New York, I put on New York, I love you, but you're bringing me down. Yeah. And just think about walking the streets of New York and finding the loneliness, but also being excited by the spirit of the loneliness of the city. Yes, yes. They're like, New York is a character in some of the best music out there. And then, yeah, interestingly enough, a lot of songs about Minneapolis. Maybe I'm just, my my amount of music about Minneapolis is.

viewed because of living there in college, living in St. Paul, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In college. But, yes, I, sometimes you got to just think about a city and be sad. And that's what I've been doing a lot lately. Yeah, I think, I think that you're in good company, though, MJ. I think that we're all right there with you. And, you know, if you're listening to this today and it comes out on the National Strike Day, hopefully you are able to join in with the city of Minneapolis and stand tall with them, but also if you can't, it's okay. It is okay. Do what you can.

There are so many ways in which we can be good, guys. And I know that's not why you come here to hear this. I just wanted to say. Yes. And that I love you all. We love you. We've got a wonderful, beautiful community, okay? We do.

And I know that this is like, this show is like an escape and it's fun. And also, again, I just, you get to a point where you're like, okay, if people are being executed in the streets and children are being put in camps, I also would like to say that and then try to distract ourselves and then talk about the traders and then we'll shift into a trader conversation. Real quick shout out. A lot of people have been messaging me about where to donate and I'm trying to signal boost. I have a friend in Minneapolis who I'm to signal boost.

She's just doing a lot of like specific like this family, this family, this family, but also Mirac, Minnesota, which is the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee, M.I. I-R-A-C-M-R-A-M-N-N.com. They are doing a lot of the, like, law, representation, and also organizing stuff. And so if you need a place to donate, but also, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, also, also see if you can donate to your local food pantry, see if your kid's school has a food pantry. If not, see if you could organize with the PTA to make a school food pantry and make a sign-up sheet for everybody to drop off food every week. Just things like the inability to stop this is in

itself a trauma. It's not the most important trauma. It's not the trauma we're going to center, but it is a trauma. And so whatever action we can do will help you feel better. It will help you feel mobilized. It will connect you to your neighbors. And it will put you in a better position to help if this happens in your city if you don't live in Minneapolis. And if you're in Minneapolis, I just want to say I love you so much. I love you. I love you. I love around this whole area.

You are showing the entire country what to do. And I'm moved by you guys every single day. Sending love down the well. We're sending love down the well. We're not just singing about it. But I guess you could be singing about it while you watch the cats watch along. Yes, if you need a break from everything. If you want the opposite, I guess it's not the opposite of what's going.

on because it certainly is also a dumpster fire to watch happen in real time. So that is the Cats watchalong and you can watch both watchalongs. Holden was so smart and he cut up the watch alongs into our first watch along and then also our second. Both of them are posted up on the page 7 Patreon. If you do not want to be giving money to HBO right now, completely understand. Come watch Cats over with us on the Patreon so you don't have to. And that with you. That And that'll stay up for you guys. You just have to, you don't have to, I don't think you have to be a paying. I think you just have to be a Patreon member.

So it's not. Right. So just go on over there, hang out with us, go break a curse for yourself. Yes. Because it is certainly four to five hours of absolute nonsense. I want to give a shout out to Sabine from our Patreon who wrote in, you know, just talking about trying to watch cats with their husband. They said, I literally have absolutely no feeling besides displaced anger. I'm just upset at how many brilliant creative people needed money to make projects.

And then there's fucking this. This has literally contributed nothing to society. I'm glad at least with you all it's funny. I'm frantically searching for logic in either metaphor or allegory. And I dot, dot, dot, I just don't know. And I'm with you. And I understand you. Hey, it contributed nothing to society.

What about our whole tour? We went on 25 shows. We did get at least. We got a tour out of it. We did create a curse. again, unfortunately. But we can break it. You just got to watch it in pairs. That's it. You just have to watch cats in pairs. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're we're going to break the curse. And yes, if you want distraction because the first 23 minutes of the show have been a screaming about reality, no better way to disassociate and ascend to the heavy side layer. But I don't mean death. I just mean, I don't know, a high of some kind than to watch cats twice. Yes. Yeah. Or, Maybe you fake your own death. I don't know if you saw this article that I popped into the list.

Barbara Corcoran's friends thought she was dead when she faked her funeral on her 70th birthday. I did read this and I was like, who's this bitch? Shark tank. Shark tank. Shark take is like my, it's not my Roman Empire, but it's like it's the opposite of my Roman Empire. I'm like, oh yeah, that show. Yeah, I never think about it. And yet, if there is a TV.

that has, like, I feel like it's up there. It's Shark Tank and Food Network. That's usually, there's something always on Food Network. And Shark Tank is usually on somewhere. And I feel like when we would be in hotels, usually it's like if you either find a shark tank or you put on food network. It's always on. And I'm always like, why would I want to watch a show about capitalism?

But then I'll literally see a product that says endorsed by Shark Tank and I'll be like, well, I trust those assholes. Oh, I mean, I know they're giving the right money. Yeah, exactly. So it's a shark take, it is just a real weird space in my mind. And this bitch faked her own death, including lying in an open casket. Open casket. So she finds out that her friends are throwing her a surprise party.

So she hears about it. She decides that downstairs from the surprise party, she's going to set up a full funeral, her laying in her own casket to bring her friends into. Absolutely. And she laid there dead for 10 minutes. She kept it. It wasn't like a surprise. Like when they came in 10 minutes, she laid there pretending to be dead in the coffin.

I also went into this. I was like, I've seen a show where someone planned their own funeral and did it while they were still alive. What show was it? And then I remembered it was the show smothered. It's always sunny. Oh. Well, sounds like both. And I just remember when Charlie did it.

I always think about it because when he played the memorial video of him, he played unwanted dead or alive, like during his montage as he's watching them at his funeral. And that, I think I laughed harder at that than any other bit on It's Always Sunny. That's very good. And yeah, this crazy, one of the crazy moms from Smothered, decided that she didn't want to miss her funeral because it sounds like a lot of fun. and so she planned it while she was still alive. And I think that that is a lot of fun.

I mean, it is fun. But do you want to hear, do you want to be laying dead? Because like even Barbara Corcoran said, it's crazy to hear what people say about you when you're laying in a coffin. I don't know if I want to know what people are saying about me if I'm laying in the coffin in front of them. I just, yeah, no, I don't want to know what people would say. And also, I cannot imagine how angry I would be. Like the complex, like if somebody who I actually cared about, if I thought they were actually dead,

and then it turned out 10 minutes later that they were doing a bit, like, I don't know what range of emotions I would feel. You know, I, you don't get to have your friends come back from the dead very often. So I guess I would be happy. I guess. But then it would be followed by rage. Yeah. Rage at making me feel sad. Yeah.

At a party. At a party. I know. but I... Also, I feel like then I'd forever be like, you're gonna tell me,

like, you're gonna let us know if you do pass, right? Like, we are gonna know not like this, right?

Now you've gone a boy who cried wolf your own death so that when you actually do die, everyone just rolls their eyes and says, oh,

she sucks. Oh, it's another birthday. She drank. You know, this must be for 75. Try to get her body out of the coffin.

Come on, wake up. Wake up! Mom, move your legs, Barbara. The bit has gone on long enough, Barbara. Stop it, Barbara. I mean, I don't know, man. My 40th birthday is coming up, and I got no plans.

Of course, I thought I was going to be real ambitious and do something fun, and I got nothing. Got nothing. So maybe I fake my own death. I, you know, it is, the problem is, coffins are so expensive. Big, what are you going to buy a prop coffin? I mean, I guess you can save it. You're going to use it, you know, eventually. Yeah, but like, do you have the space?

Where are you going to put it? Barbara does. Barbara. Barbara definitely does. You know that she's got, maybe she's got a whole, like, coffin warehouse. We don't know. I don't know how the skeletons live. They click and they clack through the coffin feels.

Yes. I mean, you know that if I had a coffin in my house, my children would find many creative ways to use it as they have found with our Halloween skeleton. We, I tell you what, MurderFist had a coffin in Holden's living room for a very, a long time. We had this big coffin because we had made the coffin so we didn't want to get rid of it. Of course. This was back in the day when we made all of our props and costumes and everything.

So when we would make something for a sketch and the sketch would go well, we'd be like, fuck, now we've got to keep the prop. So we had this big coffin, and I tell you, hiding in a coffin and scaring the shit out of somebody never gets old. It's always hilarious. You know what? Oh, my God. I just realized I've been Barbara Corcoran. Corcoranin. All over. Like since college, because we would like hide in, because in Holden's apartment in college, he always left the door open because his place was right next to the theater. So people would always be in his house regardless. That's why we were able to like play as many pranks on him as we could because he would always just let. Why would you let all of your friends into your house all the time? Like, why would you be good to us? All we're going to do is hurt you. And that's what we would do. But that's harkens back to a time in our youth when it was like, why, there was no private property. We truly lived communal lives. It was like our friend's apartment is our apartment. Isn't that crazy to think, though, that like now, even as I'm saying this, could you imagine if you just like, I knew you left your door open and I came into your house and fucked with all your stuff like at this age?

Like I feel like if I'd dame in and like one time, I know I've told you a story before, like one time we turned everything. in Holden's apartment around. We turned all the, but then we put all of his bedroom furniture into the living room and all of his living room furniture into his bedroom and then turned everything else around like all the photo frames, everything was turned around in the house to make the house, I don't know, inside out. And he was out on a date and he came back

with the woman and we were all out on the like porch in the back so he didn't know that we were there and he came in he was so upset and the girl, he was so angry that the girl ended up leaving

because he was so angry at all of us and we're all like watching it happen through the sliding glass door laughing and laughing and laughing and could you imagine as an adult like I think you'd have me arrest

if I did that at this point like with your kids like I'm fucking with your kids Like I'm fucking with your kids stuff. And then you can't find the polypockets. And you're like, Jackie, I will burn you to the ground. I wouldn't need to have you arrested. I would just have you deal with my children's feelings about moving their stuff.

And then you would. No, I'm out. No, no, no. I'm right out of there. I'm jumping out of it. That would be punishment enough. That does get, I have one of my, like, most, like, positive memories from this time when we were just, like, collective grungists, you know.

I was staying in a loft with like 12 other people. And it was like a shoebox loft where there was like, there was like four little cubes stacked on top of each other that the four main boys lived in. And then the living room was always full of people. And one of the boys in one of the cubes had been trying to like reunite with his like long lost college girlfriend. They had been apart for a long time. And there was like, it was this like high stakes situation. And then in the morning, we're all, you know, like hung over and we're like,

I wonder if you made it happen, man. Oh, I wonder how. and we just hear a woman's voice from inside one of the cubes and she goes she goes he made it happen and we're all the living room we're just cheering like yeah and long story short they're married and they have two kids so he really did make it happen it is so funny um like a friend of ours had been with now his wife and mother of his child but was not like she was someone that was like in the group and like a friend of ours for a while, and so they would bang on and off. And it is so funny that someday I'm going to look at that kid and be like, man, I've heard

your parents bang so many times. Like, we used to, like, make jokes about the sounds that they would make. We knew so much when your parents were having sex. And I don't think this is a story. You're going to tell that to them. I'm going to tell. I'm going to wait until they're like 25, 26. I'm going to Brooklyn Beckham them.

And then I'm going to show up at the wedding and be like, I'm sex. Jackie. Look at me. I'm sexy. Jackie. And then I'll start making the sounds like in Forrest Gump when he makes the sex sounds

that Sally Fields make. And I'm going, uh, except I'm also going, ah, because it was so performative and we all knew there was no way he was that good at it.

But, you know, at least he was good at it enough to eventually wife her and they've got a kid. And isn't that a beautiful story? It is. It is a beautiful. beautiful story. You know, there's, I want the Beckham goose to keep on given, but all we got

this, this since we last recorded was all the siblings shading Brooklyn. And that's kind of sad. You know, I think they know where their money bread is buttered. And I think that they don't have girlfriends as rich as Nicola Peltz, or excuse me, wives, as rich. So I imagine. So I imagine. they're being like, oh, hell no. We started with my man dead. Because we walked the books. Yeah. Oh, and I guess you also did include the story of the DJ

describing how. You talk about DJ Fat Tony? DJ Fat Tony. Are you talking about DJ Fat Tony right now? Not just any DJ Fat Tony. Thank you. We're talking about DJ Fat Tony because DJ Fat Tony was there to tell everybody. Because also there is the DJ Fat Tony story,

and I didn't include another story that was also another hearsay story, but it was all from the butler. And the butler said, but and then the butler came, but also they didn't obviously name the butler, but they just kept saying the butler so many times and I was like, okay, Clue, I hear you, I see what's happening. I didn't think Butler was still a job. I know. It is, and they bottle and they get paid for it and that's good. It's not a Mr. Belvedere situation, which did Mr. Belvedere get paid. And I think that that is something that I ask every time comes around in Mr. Belvedere, but... Yeah, I don't think he was in it for the houseman, though.

But it's a job. I guess it is. I guess he was just a live in. I don't really remember Mr. Belvedere. I just remember in my head the man reminded me of Teddy Ruxbin. Yeah. Yeah, we grew up with a lot more Butler imagery than this job. I think the hired help has been made more invisible now, you know, I think than when we grew up. Wow. He really came in here and took care of the...

this whole family. His name was Lynn. Wow, Lynn came in. Who the Beckham Butler? And he was like, hey, oh, you got, you got these kids? Let me take care of them. I don't know if I'd trust Mr. Belvedere. Oh, Mr. Belvedere did that. Yeah, I think if he walked in, I'd be like, no, different one. Next, I'd next bust the fuck out of Mr. Belvedere. Am I saying a name that, like, no, but like, is everyone too young to remember Mr. Belvedere? I don't know if people are too young, but I think it was one of those shows that even at the time, not many people watched. 117 episodes. Do you think that that means people watched it?

Yeah. Yeah. I think that there were belvers out there. And it's like, maybe they, I love a hat that says I only eat belvers. And people be like, does that mean like beavers, but you don't eat beavers, you eat belvers, like Mr. Belvedere? And if someone could make that connection, that's a friend for life. If you could figure out why my hat says I only eat belvers.

Yeah. That's somebody I want to get to know more. 1985 to 1990. I mean, we did, on our tour, we met, I think, exactly one couple who were older than millennials. They were Gen X. I know we've heard from other Gen X listeners, but I always remember that, remember that one couple in the Hawaiian shirts? They were like the most fun people I've ever met in my entire life.

And they were like, we're a little bit older than you guys, but we love your cultural references. And I was like, you guys are fantastic. Fantastic. I absolutely adore you. Yes. Oh, my, yes, I do remember. Oh, my God, yes. And so whenever we make a generational reference, I think of that.

We have older siblings that, and also we were raised on television in the same way that also Gen Xers were. So I feel like there is a lot of crossover. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. With the being raised by television aspect of our lives. Definitely. That I feel like that's also definitely why, I mean, besides the fact that I don't know if a lot of youths are listening to 38 to 40-year-olds, but I imagine that we're talking about lots of things that, you know, the nostalgia is there for the youth, but not quite there for the consumption of media, I feel like.

That's not like YouTube's. Right, right, right. Yeah, it's different. Right. It is, there is, we would get culture, we would get previous generational, like, cultural feedback because we were, yeah, we were watching show in the, in the early 90s as kids, we were watching shows that were on in the late 80s because they were on syndication after school. Like, say by the bell, I wasn't watching that on prime time. I was watching it in syndication after school. And then also we had Nick at Night, which was showing stuff from the previous generation. And so there was, there was like a literacy with the previous generation's cultures in a way that now,

I do know that that happens because like young people know about, but young people know a lot. They know about millennial culture, but I do wonder how, like how do you, if you're not coming home after school and watching. And also because there's so, you know what it is too?

There's so much at all times coming out now. Like the flood, the flood of media is incessant. So it's got to be so much harder to go back to watch older things because there is always such new shit that everybody's talking about at all times and it's got to be hard. Like even trying to genuinely go back to watch Alfred Hitchcock movies, like, I keep forgetting because there's so many other things in my face, in my face, in my face, and I'm like,

oh, I got to watch that, oh, I got to watch that. Oh, that doing something like that is a choice that's almost like, and I know it's silly, but it's like, I almost have to make it a project if I want to sit and watch all of Alfred Hitchcock movies. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a worthwhile project. I know it is. And I definitely wrote down rope, which I believe was your favorite. And I didn't write down Adam's favorite, but I wanted to, I need to get his because I want to watch both of those. Because instead we put on atomic blonde last night, which, man, Jeff, like we were both, you know, I think a lot of us are a little over and undated in the brain. And we were going to put on a movie. And both of us were like, I just really can't with a lot. right now. Yeah. And so we put on, and Jeff asked me if I'd ever seen Atomic Blonde because we were just passing it on an app.

And I was like, no, I haven't. And he was like, oh, girl, you got to love Atomic Blonde. And I did. Charlie's Theron is there. It is Charlie's Theron. Just fuck it. It is her. And also, there are a couple of really good.

Safic sexes. Oh, okay. That are really good. and also a lot of killing. And it's just one of, it's just an action movie. It is, it is just, it is during the Cold War and very much like, she is a spy and she's got to kill. And she looks really good. That's it.

Hell yeah. And it was great. It was exactly what I wanted. That was, I really, I finished his and hers and I really enjoyed it. And I have no idea whether it, whether or not is critically acclaimed. I don't care. It was exactly what I wanted. It was just like a really fun thriller that had kind of a batch hit crazy, you know, but fun.

And I was just like, this is fun. This is what I want. And now we're watching, let me be nerd alert, nerd alert. Has Gideon got started Night of the Seven Kingdoms yet? Not, I don't know if you started Night of the Seven Kingdoms. I'm going to say it loudly and see if he'll come and tell me. But we started Wonder Man, which is a new. Wonder Man, take me by the hands.

Superhero show, which is very fun and good also. I get a thriller, he gets a superhero. I get a thriller, he gets a superhero. And back and forth a big go. Wonder Man? Tell me about Ben Kingsley. Marvel TV show, Ben Kingsley. And what do we know him from?

Candyman. Oh, the new. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. He's great. I'll watch him do anything. Yeah.

Okay. He's great. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, I was like, I know I just watched him

in something that was really good, which is Candy Man. He's also was at Aquaman and watchman also. But he's great. And so, yeah, it's just, it's a new superhero.

It's fun. Haven't heard about it? Yeah. Don't know anything about having, just, this is just one of these Marvel. You know, Marvel is always putting out more.

Yes, and we will watch them all in my house. And, And yeah, it's fun. Gideon struggles to have anything to say about my thrillers, and I struggle to have anything to say about the superheroes other than, like, it's nice and fun. Look at that superhero.

I was upset because, so Jeff was telling me that he asked me if I saw Jason Mamoa because he's going to be playing this character named Lobo. And I, he's like, did you see Jason Mamoa's Lobo? And I was like, oh, I don't know if I can look at Jason Mamoa as Lobo because in my head, Lobo means wolf in Spanish. So I thought that he in my brain, he was going to be a big fucking wolf man. And I didn't know if I could handle that as Jason Mamoa. It does, this part of works with my husband. So I don't want to do this to myself.

Right. But Lobo, and then Jeff was like, Lobo doesn't, he's like, no, he's not a wolf. Man. And I was like, oh, I had a whole narrative created in my brain for this character that I know nothing about. Lobo has nothing to do with Wolf, I don't think. He's going to be Lobo who's the bad guy in the new Supergirl movie. Oh, fun. And did you, you watched The Last Superman, right? We watched The Last Superman. Yes. I loved The Last Superman. I loved the Last Superman. And in the end, the Supergirl show up. Yeah. So it's going to be her movie and Jason Amoa is going to be the bad guy in it. That's fun.

And everybody that is familiar with Lobo says that he looks fucking great and that they are very excited about it. So that's, I'm just, I'm just saying that from the Superman world of what I heard from the worlds of super. And that's what's going on over there. Oh, the Seven Kingdoms is the one you were talking about last week about the other Game of Thrones show. Yes. But it's about the collection. And you said, you're like, that sounds like the opposite of anything I would want to watch, but it might be something. Gideon would want to watch because it is like a small, it's almost like a collection of stories about this hedge night that are all put into one.

That's right. Gideon, are you watching the Night of the Seven Kingdoms? He has not yet begun, he says. So we'll put it on his radar. Put it on his radar. I think that it is, it reminds me of, I guess I could liken it to what. when you play, I guess I can't see like a Baldur's Gate,

but what's the other one with the horse, Red Dead Redemption, which is like an open game where they're just on a horse. Yes, yes. Doing a horse with a map. Every video game Gideon plays has a, it's just a map.

I'm just like, is this entire game just looking at a map? It's an open world concept, which is what the phrase is. And it makes me think of more of that rather than, you know, there's going to be big fights

and big battles and stuff. But this, I feel like, is more of, man, look at this hedge now. He's really trying to be a good guy. Well, I think Indian might have just said, you want to watch it together, which I'm going to pretend I didn't hear. Yeah, I just pretend.

Like, I like it, but I do, it is well done, I feel. And also, he big. Yeah. I mean, he's big. He's not, but he's not, no, because he's very, he's weirdly sheltered. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. That's right.

Big Irish guy. Yeah. It's all coming back. It's all coming back to me now. Yep, I'm putting it back in that brain. And I know I brought up sentimental value yesterday on page 7. But did I bring up no other choice? I can't remember if I did. I know that I was talking at you about no other choice before the episode. But I don't know if I ended up talking about it on the show. But I am going to bring up no other choice. choice because I went into this movie knowing absolutely nothing. I just knew it was from the same director as Old Boy.

Yes. And if you've seen Old Boy, definitely, you like, I think you're going to like no other choice. It is funny. Adam even said he's like, he could have been torqued up. He's like, if it's the guy that did Old Boy, it could have been torqued up a little bit more. but it's all about essentially this man that has worked loyally for this paper company for 25 years. He's got a wonderful family. He's got the two kids.

He's got the house that he worked so hard for. The house that he had, like, was born in. He wanted to come back by the house. He's been fixing it up. And then at the beginning of the movie, he loses his job. And he cannot get another one. And it's all about the shame and the spiral of losing your place when you felt that you had stability and what he gets pushed to. Yeah.

And it is, I thought it was fabulous. And it really is a scathing look at capitalism, right? Oh, and just at all of it. It is just such, it's so tongue and cheek. It's so genuinely funny. It's so darkly comedic. But then there was one kill that I've been thinking about since I watched it, that I can't get out of my brain.

So he's just so good at making pictures in your brain. And I just, it was just, just the kind of movie that is two plus hours, it didn't feel like it at all. And in the end, I was like, and I'm just as angry as they are. Yeah. I'm angry too. I'm angry about all of it. Does it, it's like, isn't it crazy that there's no infrastructure? Isn't it so crazy? And I know that they weren't even talking about America. But it's just like looking at it and thinking about. Yeah. I, I, our country right now. I love a movie where, you know, what we talk a lot during Buffy is like is Monster the Monster or is Man the Monster, but sometimes capitalism is the monster. And I love it when capitalism is the monster. I love those movies. It is. It's, it's really good. I really liked it. Now, we had mentioned, I think, on yesterday's show, this big story about the Softie Brothers, Safty Brothers. And I don't, it's not that I don't want to talk about it because I want to avoid talking about hard things. It's just that I don't know if I

have any insightful analysis to offer? I do. Okay. Because I was talking about it with Adam afterwards, after the show, because I, also for those, usually Adam is around and he can, the reason why I'm speaking for Adam is because he's not here right now. Right. So I was talking with Adam about it after the show because this scathing story came out about

the Safty brothers. Yeah, which basically describes Josh as. Like as part of their kind of like realistic, like, you know, the autour in him is like I cast people who have recently, you know, gotten out of prison and I cast people who aren't actors and all of that stuff. Regardless of what the crimes were. And like, because here's the thing. Yeah. We are not here. Like, I am not here saying that like ex-cons should not be able to get jobs.

I love the idea. I'm hiring people out of prison. I think it's great. Is it the fact that the Safdi brothers don't do any background checks. So it is, there is, it's literally they are trying for the, God, I said it wrong yesterday. Veris. Verisimil, verisimilitude. Is it verisimilitude? Oh, Lord. I was sure. Veris, I forget what the word is. But they just want it to be so. Yeah. So real. Right. Yeah. So real. Yeah.

That they don't really care what the actors have to go. In fact, even there were these little articles out about Timothy. Shamma, Ding Dong, talking about Josh Safdi having people on set that were even like kind of threatening him at points of just like a, you don't want to fuck with me, kid, kind of thing. Yeah. And Timothy was like, yeah, that's kind of crazy. And so like that is, yeah, so that's, but. Because also if you're wondering, Josh Safty is the one that did Marty Supreme.

Benny Safty is the one that did smashing machine and the curse. And they both did Uncut Gem. and... Correct. Because they used to work together with this third guy who's a producer, like a producer guy.

Right. And so... It seems that like the producer guy was at least seemingly the worst of the three of them. Uh-huh. And that getting,

like taking him out of the equation really did help. But what Adam said and why I wanted to bring the story up was because Adam said this story came out when they, they shot the movie.

Right. And the story in question is basically without getting into the harrowing details that they hired a 17-year-old who then had a really horrifically scary, violent interaction slash threatened assault from one of the other non-background checked actors. During a scene, while she was playing a sex worker, while, and like actively uncomfortable, not having a good experience. Terrifying. knew that she was terrified. Yeah. And it kept going. Yeah.

Until it got to a point that they were worried something else was going to happen and then it was stopped. Yeah. It's really, it's a deeply upsetting story about the safety brothers doing something that is incredibly reckless and irresponsible for the safety of the people working on their set, whether or not they are official actors or not, they are working. And so the 17-year-old was put in an incredibly, incredibly dangerous situation.

But yeah, so then the insight from Adam is that this is being reported on page six now, but this is actually not new information. It's been public. And the reason why they're doing it now is because of the Oscars. And that's wild. And that's why it's dropping now because they're trying to fuck up the Oscars and fuck it up for the Safdi's. So whoever is, whoever's PR team or whoever, and you know now the Safty PR team, is churning, churning, turning, trying to stop this from all getting drudged up again because it is like,

it makes specifically Josh Safdi, who made Marty Supreme really not look good. Yeah, yeah, really makes Josh Safdi look especially bad. Especially bad. But yeah, as you say, this is not, it's, first of all, it's not like a, oh, this only looks bad in like the light of Post Me Too. Also, did we say it was during the movie good time? during the movie Good Time,

which is a, it is a great movie. But if you've seen the movie Good Time, you'll know what we're talking. Like, it is, you know.

And so they, and they knew it was, they knew enough at the time that it was controversial that they removed the scene before it premiered at Cannes in 2017. And so, I just meant that you'll get like the energy.

Because, you know, everyone that's seen a Safdi movie, you know, it's that like, always going, oh, and good time, was a,

another one of those. It was, I believe, I'm pretty sure it's a predecessor of Uncah, Angajon. So it was that, like, it was even like a more rough version of the intensity of Angagha. You can't say it properly. Like, you're not supposed to say it properly. You got to say it in the Julia Fox Boys. But, yeah, so anyway, so that story. I only included this story just because, like, I didn't hear anything about.

And I, it unfortunately makes a lot of, and maybe this is because I've been adding more Alfred Hitchcock into my life. But it's like, it's so crazy to watch people that are like, this is my art. Yeah, like. And I will do anything to make the art the way I need to make the art made. Yeah. It's like totally. I'm an autort so I get to torture my actors. Yeah, this should have stopped with Alfred Hitchcock.

Why do you have to be 17? Of course. Why did the person in the sex scene have to be, like, have to be someone that had no background check? Like, I get it. This is like, Good Time was a much smaller movie. It was back when they had a lot less. So it's like, I even understand, like, not being able to, I guess, afford like an intimacy coordinator or anything like that, anything to help. But why did she have to be under age?

And why did this person have an aggressive past? Yeah. It's, it's, this is, again, this is, because this movie was, it premiered in 2017 and the, and the, and the Weinstein stuff and the Me Too stuff has, that's, the wine scene story broke in October of 2017, which is I think when, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I think that was when conversations about, you know, intimacy coordinators and stuff like kind of started to emerge of like, ethic that making more ethical, you know, sex scenes. But this is, again, you did not need a fucking gender studies degree to understand that you shouldn't have a 17 year old in this situation. And again, I am absolutely all in favor of hiring people regardless of their criminal history. I think ex-cons should absolutely have a path to employment and I think it's cool. But the fact that you're doing this very vulnerable thing with a guy with a specific criminal history that specifically shouldn't be in this situation. With a child. With a child.

Is that's a very, again, you don't need to be, this is not. you know, because of woke, we can't make art anymore. You know, this is like very obviously something that should have been done. And like that makes Josh Shafti, again, who is big, you know, Marty Supreme, big Oscars favorite this year. It makes them look really bad. Real bad. But it is, it is, you know, I don't know. I don't know what to make of the fact that this story has been public and now we're just seeing it in a new light during Oscar season.

I don't even know how to process that. It's like, what a weird. Oh, we have to sabotage. Like, who fucking cares about Marty Supreme? What about the fucking 17-year-old girl? You know, I don't know. It's a weird, wild industry this is, right? It really is.

And I mean, and who thought that we would see the day that Gordon Ramsey, and I can't believe it's not butter, would have a collab. Yeah, that's where I'm so, I can't believe it so much that I can't believe it's not butter. I can't believe it's not butter. I, yeah, I am saying it's up there with the safeties. I'm saying that, Gordon Ramsey. I'm saying you collabing with I can't believe it's not butter, you're a turncoat. And now I saw this and I think the 11-year-old in me atrophy.

And maybe it's because I was raised and I know that we bring this, I feel like I do bring up the fact that like diet culture as someone that was raised as a fat person and lived as a fat person. and lived as a fat person for most of my life, diet culture was just so traumatizing to us when we were kids that all the snack wells and the devil's food and everything. And we were just sold this narrative that you can eat as much, I can't believe it's not butter if you want.

And I'm saying that narrative, I'm not saying it was sold by the company, I'm saying it was sold in my home. Because they're like, it's not butter, so you can eat as much of it as you want, which is that, that, that's not true and I'm

proud of Gordon Ramsey I guess for collabing with I can't believe it's not butter because they're trying to elevate it this is so okay because you're right

in the 90s it was like what if we gave you like processed air chemicals that looked like a cookie right and you were like okay and then we had this swing towards like Michael Pollan wrote a book and everyone's like

use the real butter Use the real butter. And then now we're in this like protein frenzy. Everybody is like trying to kill themselves with protein. And so it's like, no, no, no. Instead of using the real butter, I want you to eat this thing that looks like a cookie and it has 65 grams of protein in it. And so we're like back to the, it's like this, it's not snack wells because it has high

protein. And I'm like, and I'm not even, if you eat this way, I'm truly not trying to shit on you, but I'm talking about the marketing. No, because I leave a high protein household because my husband has been trying to get swole. So it's like I, like my life, all I do is talk about protein, but there's a reason. All any of us do is talk about protein. But I just think it's like we, we, it's like, it's just whatever the, the, it's whatever

the aesthetic, the marketing, it's like, oh, well, it can't be, it has to be like low fat and low calorie and that's snack wells. No, it can't be that. It has to be real butter. Eat the real butter. Eat the real butter. Kill the chicken yourself. And now it's like, now we're back to like, no, no, no.

It should be fake butter, but it should be enriched with a bunch of vitamins. And you should eat this protein bar designed by Mr. Beast. And I'm just having like, I'm just having, again, I'm having a hard time processing all that. That's a bit of a roller coaster. I am trying to, sorry, you just said something that ignited in me. There is this YouTube page called How to Make Everything. And this guy, 10 years ago, went viral because he made a chicken,

he wanted to make a chicken sandwich from scratch. Uh-huh. And so he made a chicken sandwich. Took him six months, and he made the full thing of scratch. He decided for the 10-year anniversary to not only make the sandwich from scratch, but to make, literally down to making,

like every single, so he wants to make a pork sandwich, and so he goes to Texas to kill, one of the, you know, the, the feral hogs. The bad pigs that are out there. I'm sorry, they're not pigs, they're hogs. And so, but he individually goes around the world to make the gun to kill the, he makes every single bowl that he uses. This is like Michael Pollux's book about more, right?

It is to such an extent of, it took him 10 years to make literally every, I mean, like pouring own bulls, like, poorly, everything himself, the butchering, the processing of everything, everything himself, the smoking of everything. And it was over an hour long. And Jeff started playing it, and I was like, rot watches us for over an hour. Cut to an hour later, MJ. And I was like, damn, that's crazy. How to make everything. He really, he really goes there. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. My kids are watching some guy who cooks on YouTube right now. And I'm like, wow, you guys don't eat anything. You want to watch a guy who cooks? Go for us. That's great. Maybe they want to start cooking. Maybe they'll get them into eating more. Yeah. I mean, this is a food they already eat, which is

mangoes, but they saw him do like the fancy cut mango and they were like, we need to do the fancy cut mango. And I was like, have that. It's like, maybe you'll be inspired to eat something. Here's some knives. Go at it. Yeah, we did. They got it. Hell yeah. Kid-friendly knives, but yes, they're kid friendly. They did go at it. Um, Well, before we go, should we... Sorry, not to turn away from Gordon Ramsey. I just feel like... I understand in the world for butter alternatives

and going in that direction, but I guess are they trying to make margarine specifically better? I don't know. Like, I don't know if it is all just a ruse that they're slapping Gordon Ramsey on the outside of it, or if they're genuinely trying to make, rather than just making vegan butter, which I specifically use like an oat milk butter that is really, really great.

But margarine's a whole different ball game. And I'm saying this, I don't know what the pros of margarine are. I'm sure that there are. I don't know what it is. I'm not a food scientist. But I just know that I was, I think up there, it's up there with Molly McButter, but I do believe, I can't believe it's not butter. I think it traumatized me.

Yeah, I don't know. I used, I can't believe it's not butter in high school when I went vegan or what I used one of the margarins that was, it was vegan. So again, no judgment. Was it country crack? Could have been, we had definitely had country crap. Honestly, we always used country crock. And then it was country croc family. Country croc with olive oil, you know, and all of that.

Oh. It just feels very, I don't know, this Gordon Ramsey being like, no, it has vitamins in it. It just feels like very, it feels like very like supplement protein coded to me. Like everything is a supplement. Everything is protein. And, you know, next, I guess if the cycle continues as usual, soon we will all be in the woods killing our own feral hogs. And that's, making our own, you know, forging all the metals. But also just last but not least, I just saw this article.

It is from the Inquirer. So, you know, of course, we're taking. all of it with a grain of salt. I do just think it's funny. Timothy Chamalais, telling everyone and everyone he deserves the Oscar more than mentor Leonardo DiCaprio. And I'm sure he's not, but I love this narrative. Pit them against each other. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Really, go ahead. Let's make him even bradier inquire. Okay. Yeah, that's, I'll go along that ride. Pit the old hot against the young hot. Yes. Yeah. And then, And then we got the above generation hot, which is like the George Clooney hot.

Yeah, that's fine. Let them go at it. I still can't believe the fucking Oscars aren't until March. I thought they were like next week. We have to do it all the whole month of this shit. It's the race, man. It's the beginning. I mean, well, technically, in the meantime, we will have the Winter Olympics.

But we'll just have to see. But it's also crazy. I've brought up the Winter Olympics to multiple people. And they're like, that's this year? That's happening. I'm like, America, we're all so. Everybody's got a lot more. Everybody's so.

That it's just like, the Olympics, what's happening outside of here? Yes. Well, I can't, I can't see. Yeah. I can't see the forest for the trees right now. Exactly. I don't know, man. Yeah, but the Olympics are happening.

That's, that's fine. Have a good time. Again, I said this last week, but I'm going to say it again. Connor Story and Hudson Williams are the only people I want to see happy, the only celebrities I want to see happy in public right now. And they do look like they're having a dream. And even they are. They are now openly being like, and everybody just keeps bringing up our butts and our love, lot.

Oh, no, really? Are they having a rough one now that it's, that makes sense. I think that it is, of course, you know, we can't make, we can't keep anything nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We always have to go too far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot, that's a lot for like two young actors to be thrust, if you will. Whoa, sorry, I just got an invitation, not as like an influencer just as like a ad.

for another Bridgerton experience. I can't believe they're still trying to make the, like after Willie Wonka, and I'm saying this is someone that went to the Gilmore Girls experience, but that's because I knew it was a full good experience. Like, it was vetted. Like, everybody said that it was great

and that they only made it better this year. But I don't know. You don't want an experience? I feel like the Bridgeton experience, specifically right now, it's like, I don't know if I'm, if I want to even cosplay as upper class right now.

Like I don't even think I want to pretend right now. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to like the Dreamers and Readers Festival, don't get me wrong. I want to live in a fantasy world. I'd like to and also check out, you know,

we're going to be at RomanticiCon in L.A. And we're doing like a monster fucker show at the Rip Bottis February 25th. But I feel like at least there, most of them are like battling for their lives in some capacity. Yeah, yeah. You know? And I just feel like the Bridgeton for me and where I am right now.

I'm just like, shut the fact. Shut up. Shut. Yeah. I know for a lot of people for whom that is their escapism and I love that for you. And I know when it is. And I know Bridgeton. I know that the new, and I get why it's happening. And I get why you would want to go to it.

I just see it. And I'm like, I'd rather. be a battle warrior. Like, just let me be a witch that rides on a wyvern, and I put iron teeth in my mouth, and I just want to destroy. Or you go to a castle in Scotland, and you try to destroy the traitors.

Whoa. I know. We talked about it yesterday with Mike. We don't have to talk about it a lot. I know we're at the end of the show, but you got me, Jackie. I am enjoying it. Yes! I like it. Yes. I knew.

I knew once you got to know them that you would. Still a lot of people to keep track of. I still, my absolute favorites are Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir, who are just silently best friends. Best friends. And no one knows because no one cares about it. Nobody cares. No one.

And they're just like, and we're going to win it bestie because nobody knows that we know each other. I love, honestly, do though. I love the perspective of nobody knows who we are. So we should really use it. Rather than I imagine being in that situation, being a reality. star if everybody doesn't know who you are has got to be very nerve-wracking. Like, you know, I feel, I would assume, and I did, I, of course, I felt bad after saying all the stuff about Ron Funches and because Mike, I know that they are good friends, but I just,

not good friends, they are friends, but I, it's just, if you don't like talking to people, it's just the opposite show that you should be, they really, you shouldn't. And maybe that was the fault of his representation. Yeah, but what Johnny Weir and Tara Lepensky are doing is just like, they're just kind of like a long for the ride. And I, and I just love that they're like, no one is noticing us. Nobody gives a shit. Everyone keeps saying Tara Lipinski's name wrong. Yep. They don't know who she is. They don't know who she is. They don't know who she is. All they know is that Michael Rappaport is gone and that's all that matters. That's all that matters, thank God. Which is good because now I feel like, okay, now we can actually play,

I think everybody hated Michael Rappaport so much. They could barely play the game. Like, I felt like it was getting to that point. It was a total distract. That was a thing. It was like, I think that they had him there because he's like, oh, he's annoying. That makes for good TV. But he was like too annoying, you know.

It was like nothing else could get done. And now we could focus on the real enemies. I keep seeing in my, in my traders inundation on my media, on my social media feed, which is all just the destruction of our country and the traders right now. really, really kind of hurt in my brain. And Alan Cumming was saying that one of the, and it's all PR and that's fine. I'm fine with it. That he said genuinely, one of the greatest things happens in an episode. And apparently, according to this headline, Alan Cumming promises most incredible moment of trader's history in tonight's episode. Wow. So I don't know what that's

going to be, and I am excited about it. Oh, that is nice. I'm having such a good time with him. Do you think Lisa's going to be found out? I think Lisa's going to be found out. I think Lisa's going to be found. I love that like Candy Ass is kind of, I thought that she was really going to shit the bed. No, she's handling everything very well. And I love also because of Kara, I only refer to her as candy ass in my head. I know. I know. But Candy Ass is the only one handling this of like Rob, Robby-Dobby. killing it. The iron grobs killing it. No, no, you're right. Yes, you're right. He is. Look, he's looking out for number one.

What those big old snake tattoos? That boy? Oh, I want to eat like a bowl of chowd. It is making me reflect on how I would do as a traitor and I'm like, I would be such a horrific. I would be Lisa Rina. Like, me, me, I'm not a traitor. What are you talking about?

I am faithful. She is hilariously bad. And I'm absolutely loving it. Also, can we throw it out there? What's the name? What's his name? Cole. Cole Clayton?

Is that what his name? Clayton, the guy who's who we said. Who is bad? He's bad. Like, everybody, I just want to say thank you to everybody who has written in to explain a little bit more about the situation. Colton. Colton Underwood. But wait, also, just because he's bad, we weren't wrong to say Michael.

Rapaport was bad to say he's a liar because he was closeted. Correct. So I just want to clarify that. You are correct. But Colton's bad, yes. And also, Michael Rapoport shouldn't have been like, you're a liar because you were in the closet. That was a fucked up thing to say. Because here's the thing.

Michael Rapaport, you know, like, we did, we like look into pop culture got, and like, because, like, the Bachelor and all that is not in our radar, we didn't know, meaning me and MJ. There's no way Michael Rappaport. Rappaport knew about any kind of background or other gations or anything about this dude. No, that's not why he said. You know the only thing he knew about him is the other big secret that he had. Of course. You know that. Michael Rappaport is a bigot.

We can take him at his word. Yes. He's a racist piece of shit as well. Exactly. But also Colton Underwood is also a piece of garbage. Bad, bad. It has nothing to do with his sexuality. Yes.

It has everything to do with the allegations that are against him. So it's, like, honestly, we should have been reveling in the fact that we should have watched them destroy each other. And now all we can hope is to watch the downfall of that little weasel. Can we say what a fucking weasel when he thought that Lisa was a traitor? Right. So he goes to her and he's like, hey, I am. know you're a traitor. So like, why don't you help me out? Fuck you. Get the fuck away for me. And also, now you got to go down. Yeah. You got to go down. Yeah. No, Colton's got to go. He tried to be a little

weasel boy and I hope it doesn't fucking work. But it did lead to, again, a wonderful moment where Lisa Renna had to be like, me, a traitor. I'm not a traitor. I just, I just love her. Like, you could see the whites of her eyes. Yeah. It would, uh, 100% be me. I have been a performer for my entire life. And if I was a traitor, I would be so obvious. I would never be able to hide it. I would be absolutely awful at it. So solidarity to Lisa Rina. But yes, I just want to thank you for those of us who told that Colton as a baddie. Also, by the way, his ex-girlfriend and former Bachelorette co-star filed a restraining order against him, accusing him of stalking her. And that claimed there was a tracking device.

in her car. She is really. They're just, yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not good. You got to background check

these people before you put them in front of a camera for cats. But you know that they won't and they don't because look at what we're talking about because here's the thing. Now that we,

like all of that is getting reminded and you can tell that Colton came on as a way to like rebrand himself. Yes. And yet everybody's like, no. wasn't that long ago.

Yeah. No, no, no, no. I don't. And I feel like he really wants to hide behind the fact of like, yes, but like my journey of being able to accept myself. And yes, that's beautiful. That's great. But that does not forgive what you did.

Yeah, your journey is separate from your gations. And if you want to redeem yourself, you got to acknowledge the gations, acknowledge the heart. There's a path forward. Even if you got gaitians, you got to acknowledge the gations. You acknowledge the harm. You apologize. and you, you know, like what, like, I mean, some, some Gatians, irredeemable, some Gations, there's a path forward.

I haven't looked into the level of Gations he's got. Sounds like it. They're pretty bad. But you can't just be like, oh, no, but I, I had a journey. Like, too bad, you know, you got to still, you got to acknowledge the harm that was done. But, yeah. God, man, just reading through Reddits and stuff like that of people that are in Bachelor Nation that know a lot. that know a lot about the story.

This isn't like a if I did it, you know, not by OJ Simpson. Love that reference. Thank you. This is not. This is a he did. He did it. This is, yeah. Okay. And regardless of, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Of, yeah. I'm looking at the red. Post. You're talking. Oh, there's lots. There's a lot of people really don't like it. Yeah.

Okay. So got to get out. Got to get out. You got to get rid of him on the traders then. I guess we're going to have to shuck him out of that shell. Go work on yourself, Colton. Go work on yourself. Go repair your harms.

Yes, we need to end the episode. But Guy Fietti did change his look? And yes, did he do it for a Super Bowl ad? Yes, he did. And of course, and he just keeps me like, but guys, did you see my new look? But guys, like, yeah, it's a Super Bowl ad. Yeah, we saw it. It's a Super Bowl.

It's a Super Bowl. Yeah, we get it. Okay, so Super Bowl is February 8th. So we got another week before we'll be the... Who even know? Do we even know, like, is there, is there, I don't, I know bad buddy is performing. That's it? Well, yeah, Bad Bunny.

I remember Green Day, but not even in halftime. We learned last week, it's going to be like an opener, which is fine, whatever. Yeah, it's just going to be Super Bowl ads coming out. And I'm sorry that I got mad about Lady Gaga's that lovely song being an ad. I know everything is an ad. And she did lovely. She did great. I love her.

And I love Mr. Rogers. And it's a plinky, planky version. It's nice. And obviously it's a nice. It's one of these celebrity things. things where you're like, I think you're vaguely trying to say something really good here. You're not directly, like, she doesn't say like fuck ice, but you're saying like, we should all be friends with our neighbors. And that's good. And that's nice. And she did a very nice, lovely

thing. And that is nice. It's very nice. So good for it. And it's, at least it's not like on a level of an imagine. It's not an imagine. Like not even close. It's the, it's, it's, it's an affirmatively good thing, even though it is an ad. Well, at least they didn't even. get paid actually. Yeah, no, it's kind of maybe not that. It's not, she does get, she get paid to do it. It is an ad for a Galgado didn't get paid. Thank God to do that. I don't think. Not only did she not get paid. I'm pretty sure she got paid less in the future because everybody was like, what the fuck is this? But, um, but yes, we'll be living in Super Bowl and World for the next two weeks. And, and we're ready to talk about it. Thank you guys so much for joining us on

this week's episode. Thank you for navigating through. us, you know, and we just needed, we need a little, it was a little grumble pot up top. But I tell you what, we are steering around it because we just live keeps on ticking, ticking, ticking into the future. And we are just going to continue to be there for each other. And we're going to continue to be as good as we can. And it's okay if sometimes you cry when you're making the calls to your senators. And that's okay.

It's okay that sometimes you just need to stare into the middle distance and take 10 minutes for yourself. It's okay. It's everything we're going to keep soldiering forward. We love you guys so much. Yes. And be safe this weekend. Do what you can do what you're able to. And no matter what, we love you and be good to yourself and your other family members. and everyone in the community. That's it. I'm Jackie Zabrowski. You follow me on Instagram. Jack that worm. And you can come hang out with us over on the page seven Patreon

where we are ripping through Buffy. And yeah, maybe we're crying every Tuesday, but like it's good to be crying about Buffy. And I'm so upset because I was getting tattooed yesterday and my tattoo artist was like, where are you in season six? And I was explaining to her what just happened

and she just went, oh. Uh-oh. And I said, why did you say it like that? She went, nothing. And I said, why did you say it like that? Why did you say it like that? And I guess we're going to find out soon, everybody. And come hang out with us.

Romantici Khan, L.A. is going to be at the end of February. We're going to be doing our monster fucker show, February 25th, at the Rip Baudas. Also, if you like to play dating sim games, go, download Dorian. I'm working for an app called Dorian. and there is a sequel coming out to their game called Slashvick. Start playing Slashvick if you want to bang killers that are based off of IP killers. And my killer is going to be in the sequel and she's not based off of an IP. She's my own creation.

So if you want to romance me or be killed by me, start playing the game and the release of the game is going to be Friday, February 13th. It's going to be the first episode of our game. So get ready for that. And yeah, I'm already working on the cosplay of my Harlequin Clown character. Hell yes. So you'll see me as her soon. Hell yes. And yes, thank you guys.

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