Page 7 - Second Helpings - Fleshed Colored Baby Choir

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

This week on Second Helpings, MJ and Jackie are back, and "Heated Rivalry" has Jackie drownin' in her own drool, but manages to save herself to tell tale of "A Newport Christmas" as well as other bizarre Christmas films. MJ watched Alicia Silverstone's new Christmas movie and def recommends it over Michelle Pfeiffer in "Oh. What. Fun". Jackie and MJ also discuss the stacked cast but somehow forgotten "Love The Coopers", Himbo Christmas is here with "Finding Mr. Christmas", Meghan Markle suggests wrappin' those Polly Pockets in silk scarves for the season, and Macaulay Culkin is showing his kids "Home Alone", but they don't realize it's him in them yet and it's helping him connect to his past work in a way he never has before. KJ Apa is gonna be Jimmy Stewart in a biopic film that's possibly going to be a weird Trojan horse Christian thing, Jackie and MJ got into a FIGHT during the watching of "Muppet's Christmas Carol" about them weird ass singin' baby Muppets, Ethan Hawke says he gets T bell for aaaaannnyyy reason and ol' Gooper called it a sickness to his face, and JLaw interviewed Leonardo DiCaprio for Actors on Actors! Coldplay Kiss Cam Lady broke her silence, and then we're goin' through a list of some of the top pop culture moments of 2025!!! Plus Josh Brolin loves "KPop Demon Hunters", and then closin' out with some "New Years, New Intentions"! AND SO MUCH MOOOORE!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I'll be there A second time You're damn right And usually, you know I'm not often kind of hung over In the middle of the week anymore But we did do a holiday jack-in In the middle of our week

And it's early in the morning the next day And I don't usually have to record Early in the morning after a jack-in and I feel like I'm insane. I can't believe I'm like barely hungover and I can't believe we used to be brutalized every day. No wonder we were in bad moods all the time. This is how I feel any time I'm even slightly hungover,

which is rare. I'm just the tiniest. I'm just like the tiniest. I know. And I'm just like, what, how did I do this? Like every day. For such a long period of my life, you know, even. just like I was, what was I thinking, you know, just there, I remember like the week, this is the most random memory ever, but like the most random memory ever. Sorry I'm saying your best Christmas ever. I should probably just stop myself. But I just, this is just. Wow. Oh. Now I'm curious about the random memory you just had. Well, I just often think about how many years of my life when we were young was just like I was just out and socialistic every night. And like I remember when the Boston bomber happened.

which I wasn't in Boston, did not, I mean, obviously everybody was like watching the manhunt, but like my friends and I were all, it was before group chats, so I don't even know what we, but it was like, we all got it, we got to go to the bar. We have to discuss this. We have to discuss it. And we were just always like processing everything in real time. And like December, the month of December used to be wild because it was like every night was a holiday party. And now the month of December is wild because I'm like, I'm going to disappoint my entire family if I don't buy more shit, you know. It's just a different type of wild. And at Z, I'm reflecting. This is why all of us out here are watching, all the things he's at, all the things he's at, right to throw my hat, right to throw my hat. And no, I'm not talking about tattoo. I'm talking about heated rivalry.

And I think that everyone is, because there are so many of those feelings, especially throughout the holidays, and it's like if you want the opposite of every holiday feeling, put on heated rivalry instead. And while it is cold, because there is hot, Yes. Yeah.

There is a little bit of that. Seasonal. Apparently, this, I guess it is, this club scene is like a pivotal moment in the book that a lot of people were very excited about. I have not read them, so I was unaware, but I will say my eyes were glued. And I just, we had to pause starting the episode because I wanted to watch the club scene again. And I just sat here silently, like mouth agape, just like, ugh, as I. watch them stare at each other across the clock. This is slightly like how you opted out of summer by just watching Love Island, but you have

also, it is, it is, it's similar. It is similar, but also you have watched a lot of Christmas movies. If you are not a member of the Patreon, I do encourage you, if you've been thinking about joining Join, just so that you can hear Jackie describe the plot of a Newport Christmas. It was maybe the highlight of my holiday season so far. I can't stop thinking about a Newport Christmas. In fact, not only Newport Christmas, but also the Christmas spirit, which was about Coma Ghosts, Coma Ghosts Saving the Town.

Yeah. And so there was Coma Ghost saving the town. And then Newport Christmas, which is a time travel tale, which is a homemark Christmas movie where a woman. Christmas Dane's more time travel. People have been saying this. She's from 1905. She, she's on a comet, ends up in a boat in 2025.

And she just keeps saying things like, women wear pants. And I love, also, if you listen to the rundown, the ebb and flow of this movie and where it goes and what happens with it, I think I have to watch it again. I've already watched Christmas Spirit again. I watched Tomah Ghosts again because I feel like I wasn't paying attention to Nicolette Sheridan's horrible, horrible accent character that she made. but I'm worried about watching Newport Christmas again because then I'm afraid you all time travel. Yes. And then I'm going to wake up in 1905. And I'm not made for 1905.

You would never survive. No, no. Although I will say with my visage, back in the day, technically people would be like, oh, she must be very well to do. This fat, pale woman that has shown up in our town. Wow, she must have de blooms for days. And I don't. And they're going to find out real fast. And I'm going to be talking at them about heated rivalry.

And nobody's going to give a shit. And that sucks. I think you actually are like pretty good at a lot of domestic labor. So you might, you might survive longer than many of us. Thank you. Oh my God. Thank you so much. And I did watch Alicia Silverstone's a merry little X-Mass.

I think that's what it's called. I refuse to remember the combination of words, X-Mass is the key. and my synopsis is that I enjoyed it more than Michelle Pfeiffer's, oh, what fun. And so if you are choosing between two slightly sad, trying to be Family Stone holiday movies, I recommend the Alicia Silverstone one, although I am continuing to threaten to Michelle Pfeiffer, my family, this holiday season, which no one in my home understands. But what if it means you come in, you do like these backflips and you're dressed like catwoman and then you start like whipping the family and you're like,

Mia! Yeah, right. Gideot will probably be like, oh, Michelle Pfeiffer, the family, that sounds great. That's great. She's hot. Please do. Wow. She's a hot candleman.

I'm like, little do you know. It means that I'm running away and not coming back. Yeah, no, I'm, oh yeah, no, this means I'm leaving. I'm sorry, you're excited, but no, I'm going. I dress like this to leave the family. Yeah. You know, I want to say thank you because I, Someone in our chat, in our fan base on our Patreon, I believe,

has told us multiple times to watch Love the Coopers, because I will, I'll give it to you. The cast is unbelievable. It's Diane Keaton. It's John Goodman, Olivia Wilde, Ed Helms, Alan Arkin, Amanda Seafreed, Marissa Tomey, Timothy Shamma Ding-Dong. Excuse me, 2025?

I never heard of it. Looked it up 19% on Rotten Tomatoes. Now, here I am, you know, MJ, an amount like a 19%, well, that does peak maculari also. Right. When I say, oh, no, I actually, that is what I want. The higher the score, especially for a Christmas movie, the more concerning. Oh, so you said 2025, 2015. 2015, that's what I meant.

Yeah, 10 years ago, 10 years ago. So not a current movie. Forgotten into the trash bin of history. I've never heard anyone mention this movie. Adam is all so shaggy. I was about to be like, I mean, Adam has heard. of every movie known to mankind, and this one also nothing? I've never heard of this ever.

The only interesting thing is the director is the mother of Molly Gordon. Do you know Molly Gordon? No. No. She's the love interest on the bear. Oh. Claire Bear. We should know her name, but we only know her as Claire Bear. Claire Bear.

Oh, wait. She did this story. No, that's, oh my God, Rob Reiner. God damn it. I didn't realize Rob Reiner also did the story of us. I was about to be like, man, I forgot. I really liked the story of us. Oh, this woman did the story.

No, another Rob Reiner. Another Rob Reiner for you. Sorry, we also, MJ and I decided last minute. Now, we had said on, I believe on page 7 that we were going to be watching Sex and the City movie for New Year's Day. I'm watching it on New Year's Day. But we're not. Because it's two and a half hours long, MJ. My great affiliation to a movie movie.

I apologize, but forever mentioning it. Please forget I said anything about the sex of the city movie. I'll never bring it up again. I've never... That is not true. We are going to watch it. I think next year we're going to have to watch it in chunks. I feel like we're going to have to take breaks.

Like we're going to have an intermission because I, that night, I just could, I didn't have it in me. No, but it was a bad night. We needed another New Year's Eve or New Year's Day movie. And I did say, when Harry Met Sally is a New Year's Day movie. So MJ and I, I was man, stone to the bone, and MJ is slurping and nerping, and we both got into our feels while watching when Harry met Sally. So that is going to come out. You can watch the watchalong on New Year's Eve. We posted that that's coming up on the Patreon, and you just have to be a member to see it, not a specific tier.

And so you can watch the actual movie, because weirdly enough, I had to subscribe to stars. I've already canceled it. Good job. So don't even worry about it. Good job. I had to subscribe to stars to get it. So if you don't want to subscribe to stars, and then, because you will inevitably forget to cancel it,

come watch it with us over on the Patreon. But if not, the audio version of the show will be available on the first. Yes, even if you are not a patron, that will be our New Year's watch along. And, man, it's such a good movie. I really do feel like everyone who feels the need to, like, grieve Rob Reiner by watching all of his movies. It's a great way to do it. The New York Times podcast yesterday did like a big deep dive

on Rob Reiner and played the scene from the Kansas Deli scene from Harry Met Sally. And I was like, really? New York Times podcast. Okay. We're all very familiar with the scene. Yeah. Yeah. But yes. But also, Jesse Nelson did I Am Sam. Sorry. I started clicking through

a Jesse Nelson who made Love the Cooper. I was going down a little worm time over here. I don't understand how a movie could be made with this cast. And I feel like... And no one's heard of it? Yeah, I feel like we're in a Mandela effect here. I've never once heard of this movie. And I like all these actors.

I have to watch it. Like, I do have to see it. Now that I know that it's 19% of Rotten Tomatoes, I have to see it. For their annual Christmas Eve celebration, Sam Cooper, John Goodman, and his wife, Charlotte, Diane Keaton. Welcome four generations. Yes, please. Like, I mean, I feel like Diane Keeney. and love her with Craig T. Nelson, yes, yes, yes, yes. With John Goodman, yes, yes, yes, yes. You know what I mean?

They welcome four generations of extended family, including son, Hank, Ed Helms, daughter Eleanor, Olivia Wilde. Yeah, but are they gay and are they deaf? This was before everyone, I don't think so. This was before everyone was gay in a Christmas movie. And I love it. The Alicia Silverstone try to do a little variation on how everyone is gay in a Christmas movie. Now, two gay dads, like grandpa dads and that's fun but then they also spoiler alert can I do a spoiler for Mary Little X-Mass you're allowed they basically blame the

dad at least his Silverstone husband pathology of like not being a good father because he had two gay dads and I was like I think you missed the dismount here guys he was like I had two dads and it made me have to prove a lot and I'm like uh that's not what we're

That's not. I don't know if this is, I don't know if this is helpful. Is this what we need right now? Marri the Lexmas. I do kind of like it because I feel like they were desperately trying to appeal to all of America with that. They're like, I mean, they're gay, but they're not good at it. You know, so don't worry about it. And what if there's a gay couple, but nobody likes them.

Same with. Same with, um, oh, what fun, who was it who messaged me about this? Was it Cass? Somebody was like the, no, it was Jasmine. I don't really play video games, who said, the problem with the Michelle Pfeiffer movie, Oh, What Fun, is that no one in it is likable, which is why I continue. Now, two different people, Jackie and Adam, have told me that Michael Schroelter directed it. I forgot both times.

Both times, yeah. Because he is so likable. How could you make a movie full of entirely unlikable characters? The gay sister is just a huge bitch for no reason. This is not the representation we are looking for I mean obviously you don't want all the gay characters to be perfect either But like it's just very it's if you I see every Hallmark like it's Netflix Hallmark movie now needs a gay family member

And I think it's great but it is such a everyone's like look at us being so accepting We're so accepting shitty gay character You happy now or you just have a town weirdo like Olympia Dukakis who you don't know why she's always weird is it because she sees ghosts all the time? Yeah. But I love this dressing down of Love the Coopers that I saw on Reddit that is just title is, Love the Coopers is the worst film I've seen in years.

Starts off, this film was absolutely atrocious. I consider it an absolute abomination to cinema. Nothing about this movie made me even remotely intrigued, interested, or invested. At no point during the film was I impressed by any of acting performances. and was tolerant of maybe two actors in the film. I thought, and Helms was okay. Wow, who is the other?

It's hard, I don't know, they don't say. It's hard, however, to pull off a good acting performance with terrible writing. Let's talk about the writing. And then they just go, it is, wow, somebody needed to sound off. It's because no one has heard of Love the Coopers. And so this person was just screaming into the darkness for someone to hear them, that they had given this investment of their time. to such a waste.

Wow. And I can't wait to watch it. I'm going to watch it. I see somebody in military fatigues. That's what I was trying to get to. Sam and Charlotte, that's John Goodman and Diane Keaton, are separating after 40 years of marriage. Wow. Stealing the plot from a merry little X-Mass much.

Wow. Well, this came first, MJ. I don't care. It's stealing from a Merry Little X-Mass because I like Mary Little X-Mass a little bit. Yeah, I, all right, I'll watch it. because I really do feel like the key to a Christmas movie is to have it, and I do feel this way about

Hallmark, it has to have one mid-tier celebrity in it at least, and I will like it much more, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I know that a lot of the Hallmark movies don't have that. They just have generic white woman A and generic white man B, but like... Are you talking about My Secret Santa?

I have. The movie that we watch that will be out next week for page 7? That's our Christmas watch along. But I just, I do feel like you need a brandy in there, you know, or you need a... I thought you meant the booze. Well, I was like, yeah, I mean, yeah, you do need a little bit of brandy to be getting you through these shows.

But that's why there's always finding Mr. Christmas. And I tell you, MJ, every time I introduce someone to finding Mr. Christmas, at first you watch them go, okay, yeah, I guess I'll watch this Hymbo reality show. You're really, everybody's shit in the bed this holiday. If you're not watching Finding Mr. Christmas, it is the. Most genuine reality show, it is just lovable, pretty boy men. And they are all desperately trying to be the next Hallmark Christmas leading man. And none of them have any acting experience.

None of them have really just any experience living. A lot of them is like one of them they had to do a talent show. And he's like, I could throw a football. And I laughed so hard. It's just like that's such a genuine, you know, they were. all like trying to get pumped up to get ready to go in and do this challenge and all of a sudden they were like one of the guys started doing like push-ups and he's like oh man I love your form and the other guy starts doing push-ups and like you can't like write this stuff they're all

like working out and like building each and they're like yeah bud wow good form and like it's just I like talk about you said that I'm love islanding my Christmas but I'm actually not I'm just I'm like hymboing my Christmas and in an extent that like I I I think I I can't have Christmas without hymboes anymore. I think I have to have hymboes to experience Christmas. I support you. And I, I,

I, I, well, I am skeptical of finding Mr. Christmas, um, for reasons that I can't totally explain, except that I did talk. I think you're scared. I think you're scared of how much you're going to love it. I'm scared and I'm just, I don't, I don't, as I've told you, I don't like self-aware hallmark. Like, I want, I want Hallmark to be oblivious to itself.

These boys are not self-aware. Okay. All right. All right. Oh, these boys don't know that these boys, they, they, they think that they're doing a great job. Okay. And they are, but you should see them trying to build a gingerbread house. Or they were given one of the challenges, they were given weirdly shaped things and they had to learn how to wrap them. But none of them have ever, these boys have never wrapped anything in their fucking lives. They're just like, oh, whoa, well, that's what the tapes for. You know, like, I'm surprised they're not saying that. But you can see it in their eyes. I used to be not the worst rapper in my family because my brother was the worst rapper in my family for years and, like, comically, like, he's got pretty messy handwriting.

He's, like, very, very smart. But, like, the one thing he's not good at is handwriting and wrapping gifts. And then when he moved to New York, the first year I moved to New York, when he was like Tempeng and one of his jobs was being a Christmas gift rapper at Cartier. Oh, no. At Cartier. How the hell can get that job? I don't know one knows, but he learned... No one knows.

Was he dressed like an elf, please? Tell me he was dressed like an elf. Please, I'd love to see journalists, like political journalist, John Neffold, just like, oh, you want me to wrap your watch? I don't remember, I should ask him, he ended up writing a short story about it because it's such a weird experience, but, um, I bet. What is he in madmen? Oh, my God, sorry.

They're always, he's like, oh, I've got my short story and published in a magazine. Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah. But now he is like such a good. good gift wrapper because you have to be a really good gift wrapper if you're wrapping Cartier gifts. So he was really, he was put to task. So now he puts you to shame. And now I'm the worst. How do you feel about that? Do you want to start working on it? You want to be a little bit of Megan Markle? Maybe you should get silk scarves to wrap everything in. Have you thought about going vintage thrifting and getting silk scarves and you can take every little polly pocket

and you can wrap it up in a silk scarf. I can't. I got a Michelle Piper in this conversation. Yeah, Michelle Piper. Backflip. Back, flip. I just need, now I need to get you a whip. Now I feel like I need to get you a whole, like,

I want you to be Michelle Fiver, but also, like, you show up, like, in the music video, two gangsters paradise. And it's like, oh, God, all right, now you've got to, like, give us the business. All right, now we're ready. Although that is kind of what, you're going to grad school for. You become Michelle Pfeiffer.

Although, I guess she wasn't a guidance counselor. When was the last time you watched that movie? Catwoman? No, I was referring to, oh, gangster's paradise is in the movie. Oh, oh, oh. Dangerous minds. Thank you, Adam. It's in dangerous minds.

And I just remember the music video. No, the music video. Is she a guidance guy? She's just a teacher. She's just a teacher. I just don't remember. She's just a well-meaning. I'm sorry, I didn't put you to that.

It's fine. You don't remember. I think she's a teacher. I feel like that's always held up as the like kind of ultimate like white savior teacher movie. But I don't, I have not seen dangerous minds in quite some time. Yeah,

I'm sure it. I'm sure it doesn't hold on. I think Carrie Fisher did heavy rewrites on it or maybe she just straight up road. Oh, okay. Well, I can't say anything bad about her. And MJ forgot that Carrie Fisher was even in when Harry met Sally. I was so thrilled to find Carrie Fisher in when Harry met Sally. God, I would do anything for her.

But I would love to talk about a feel-good story, which is McCauley Calkins' evolving relationship with the movie Home Alone. Oh, my God. I think it's very sweet. It's so cute. As we learned in Tim Curry's memoir, well, Tim Curry was obviously in Home Alone, too. And he talked about, Tim Curry, you know, had a bit of an alienated relationship. with his own childhood and as a result he always felt like he had a kind of a hard time connecting to kids and also especially a really nice way of saying he obviously hated children but yes he really

had a strong dislike for children is what it seemed and he was like really like kind of skeezed out by child stars because he was like I find fame to be so uncomfortable myself I cannot imagine a famous child and so therefore I'm just going to not really talk to them but he talked about McCauley Calkin and like so all the whole cast for Home Alone 2 was all staying at the plaza and McCauley Calkin was like staying in a hotel room by himself like staying up late watching movies much like Kevin McAllister and it was fun to hear about because you really don't hear obviously we all remember like what media coverage of McCulley Coulcan was like in the 90s and then also in the 2000s when he was growing up into a young man and he had just like a very the media coverage of him was so brutal and so terrible and he while he was also being like not treated well at all, right? Bad daddy manager. Yeah, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. So he was also like so young and having to deal with already so much more than a young, I mean, like at eight years old. I mean, that's insane. And I think, I think that for that, for many reasons, we have not really gotten a lot of, like, McCauley Calkin insight into McCauley Calkin, right? He's kind of only just

emerging now as like, you know, in his 40s, married and with two little kids, and he's doing a little bit more media and talking a little bit more. And so in this interview that he just did this past week, he's talking about showing home alone to his kids. Showing home alone to his kids. It's so cute. They don't know that he's Kevin and they refer to Kevin as Kevin. Yeah, they don't know it's him. And he has not told them because he doesn't want to like ruin it for that movie, which I think is so, so funny. He's just like, eh, they'll find out sometimes. Especially because his wife, Brenda's song, was in all of the, like, Disney show.

So the kids know that their mom is in the shows, but they don't know that McCulley Culkin is also in the show. And like, Home Alone is their favorite. They love it. It's just like, which is just, and so him seeing the movies through the eyes of his kids are, like, showing him what he gave to the world. Yeah, he said he never had a relationship with the movie before. He was like, it was just work. It was just a gig. I've never, like, had an emotional connection to it, like not really reflected on it.

And now seeing his kids experiencing it, he's like, I can finally see what the movie was to people, which is so beautiful. Yes. And also, weirdly enough, in that interview, I feel like for the first time, I was like, oh, McCollie Culkin is very attractive. But then I think it's because I think he looks so much like here. Culkin and I'm attracted to Kieran Culkin, but I've never been attracted to McCauley Culkin just because of we know him so much as an eight-year-old that it's never really been at the

forefront of my horny brain, you know, it's not like a heated rivalry over here. Yeah. I'm not awugaing at the home alone, which is for the best, unless I'm talking about Catherine O'Hara. And yes, I still a wuga for her. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, no, Home alone, not an especially horny movie. And I cannot comment. I know, we got to say it ever. You know, some movies. just ain't that horny. Although, Castro O'Hara, yes. But I can't comment.

And Joe Pesci. Yeah, come on. Come on. Put them in a little hoagie together. Every time I post a picture of myself as a child, on Instagram, everybody's like, were you McCulley Culkin? And I'm like, I understand.

I do. I get it. And I'm not saying that to be like, I'm also attractive because I, it's uncomfortable. No, but you have the same beautiful, like very distinct eyes, though. You have very, like a similar shaped eyes. And I feel like you both are so emotive through your eyes that I feel like that is the connection.

And also, I mean, the mop of the, you know, white, blonde hair, I imagine. Like, when I was a kid, I was like, oh, yeah, McCauley Culkin is like, my brother looked exactly like and I looked exactly like him. And so that gave me a different, maybe a different relationship to Home Alone. I was like, I really identify with this person. But I just like, it's so, it's just so nice. I've always loved Kieran, Culkin, obviously. is an actor, and I've always kind of wondered how McCauley is doing, especially because he got such brutal treatment by the paparazzi as he was aging, I mean, as a kid, and as a young adult,

and as a medium, but not young adult. And it's really just now kind of seeing him emerge and seeing him be like really happy. Working on himself. And I hope that it seems like he's in a great place, seems like he's happy in his marriage, seems like he loves being a dad, and I love all of that. Yeah. And in the opposite of, you know, actually what happened to McCauley Culkin, I would love to do to somebody that always doing a biopic. The way I'm day when we know our biopin

Now we gotta make sure that we are doing that The party's not in my house Such in Chim's house And French house If you can do an impression of Jimmy Stewart Then you too can be cast In the Jimmy Stewart biopin Because KJ EPA. Is it a joke?

Is it a dark comedy? We saw Rob Wrigal Okay, everyone, if you have not watched the teaser trailer for the KJAPA Jimmy Stewart biopic that is going to be coming out and he's doing, you know, we all know what Jimmy Stewart canonically sounded like and I don't know if that's it it's what Jimmy Stewart sounded like it's just okay I have so many questions one is this real two why

is it real and is it is it supposed is it gonna come out that it's actually darkly comedic like if this is funny like if this is in any way funny masterpiece and I'm gonna fucking I'll lose my mind I am so scared and listen I love KJ Appa I love Mr. Fantasy

My biggest question. I love Mr. Fantasy. I love Mr. Fantasy. However, my biggest question is him? Why is KJ. Appa being cast to play one of the greatest actors in film history? Is it was no one else picking up the phone? I don't know what you're talking about it. I heard of their films.

And I thought, oh, my God, Jimmy Stewart, he does walk again. And I know we've made biopics about people with unique voices before, you know. And I know they can be good. Yeah, we watched what Tom Hanks did to the colonel. Yeah, we heard it. We dealt with it. Tom Hanks has done it. Yeah.

But like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if you're going to make a Jimmy Stewart biopic. And he has a great fucking story to tell, by the way. So, like, I'm so scared that this beautiful story is going to be told so poorly based on the trailer. I need to say that I don't know if it's just that I, I, I, I need to say that I don't know if it's just that I radiate empathy.

Like I just feel like part of me is like I mean he is really trying. He is really trying. Like he really was getting like he is given it

the most he can and I it does seem like in a lot of the articles of what people are saying it's like it seems like he's focusing a little

too much on the dialect and that it is so it's seat and we just saw a snibbage of it. We heard him say like 10 words

and I'm still haunted by it. He is, and I'm not saying a Kiwi, couldn't do a Jimmy Stewart. No, of course. I think that, honestly, I'm sure he could probably do it. Like, I feel like accents are better, like can be better done with people with other accents. I feel like they're so used to hear. It's like, you know, I watched some interview talking about like Millie Bobby Brown where she like holds the different accents in her mouth. And I find that very fascinating. As a voice actor, I think that's really cool. It's not that he's not capable of it. It's that why did he?

Anybody say, hey, why don't you, why don't you take like 20% off the top? I think, how do we just take it down just a little bit? I don't think you can do a Jimmy Stewart biopic without doing some kind of... You've got to do the voice. Nod towards his voice, but whatever this is, it sounds like someone who's drunk at a party in a Jimmy Stewart impression contest. It's like, who can do the most Jimmy Stewart impression? And KJ. Apple won the contest.

And they're like, okay, you've been an actor before. You get to be in this movie about, again, one of the most important actors in film history. Am I biased? Yes, I think that it's a wonderful life is one of the best movies ever made. But I'm terrified. I'm so scared. I'm so upset. I'm scared.

Adam, did you find out something about this? I feel like you were nodding as if something made sense. I did a quick little bit of research. And there's a couple points real quick that made a lot of sense. Please, please. Okay, so the director has never directed anything ever. He's only been a producer. Excellent.

So there you go. Okay. And they are all like roundabout weird Trojan horse faith movies. Oh, no. Yes. Yes. So he's like the Candace Cameron Bray of Jimmy Stewart. Oh.

So now it makes sense why it has that weird like vibe from the trailer. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird faith-based like. Yeah, it's got that film that, like, Seventh Heaven had, you know? Yes, hopefully without the dad. Maybe this, you know, this Jimmy Stewart, I, oh, no. That's so bad. Oh, no.

I wonder if they wanted anyone to see this teaser trailer. I feel like this, like, because honestly, Mr. Fantasy is doing so well that it's like, did they think Mr. Fantasy was going to do this well, that everybody would be weirdly also still talking about KJEPA? Did they think maybe, oh, this will fly under the radar? But it's just so exploded in such a negative way. And I am, I mean, I can't wait to see it. You know we're all going to go and see.

So it's like a visceral pain. I cannot even explain the pain. I bet. I bet. in my chest when I think about this. Oh my God. Did it, did it make you feel that way when I sent you the JoJo Siwa dancing the Dick Van Dyke dance? And I was like, oh, Jojo's going to keep him alive. That's it. Yes. And who was that? I had, it was a whole part of our live show. Was it, was it, what's his name? Ryan Gosling wanted to be Jean, wanted to do a Gene Kelly

biopic, despite Gene Kelly saying, never do this. Never. Please don't want it. Please don't do it. And, you know, maybe, I don't know if anybody ever asked. That's Jimmy Stewart, but I imagine he'd be like, my voice is so iconic. He wouldn't want to have to do that. The guy from Riverdale. The guy from Riverdale, CW show. Surely, there's got to be someone else available. Make a couple more phone call.

Although, if you pitched him Mr. Fantasy, do you think he'd be more fine with it? Then he's like, oh, I mean, that guy. No, I definitely want that guy to give me a shot. This is the thing. I don't want KJ. Epa to tank all of the goodwill he has built up. No, because we love Mr. Fantasy. We love Mr. Fantasy. I just, he doesn't look anything like him.

I'm like, I'm over here. Like, I don't know who you cast to do, to do, to do a, who do you cast? Like, who, who, who, like, who, like, is it a shamelam a ding dong? Like, do you get somebody like that? No, no, it has, Jimmy Stewart was like, you know, six, three or something. Like, like, like, I, I, yeah, yeah, big old, big old oak of the man. There's no one else like him. No.

Was he bad? Not a bad, not a bad, not a bad. No. Only fine. Sorry that I assume. I assume all of them have a couple of skeletons in the closet. I just don't know if we know about the skeletons or not. I'm saying no with great confidence, but that's just because I've spent a lot of time learning

about It's Wonderful Life and Jimmy Stewart, and I've never heard anything bad about him. That doesn't mean it's not out there. We all know that Debbie Reynolds said that Gene Kelly wasn't a very good scene partner and that he wasn't very nice. And so, you know, I guess. But also to be fair, she was like 16 years old. was terrified of the whole experience. I'm not trying to make excuses for Gene Kelly,

but I think a lot of men back then weren't very nice. And again, that's not an excuse. Sorry, I forgot also Jason Alexander is in it because in the teaser trailer, in the Jimmy Stewart biopic, I just screamed George Costanza. But that moment of Rob Riggle really was, I was hoping that we were going to find out it was darkly comedic.

I really thought, like that would be, if we're all talking about this, And then we found out in like six months that it's actually a dark comedy, I really think we would all lose our minds. But now knowing that this is a faith-based producer directing this movie, I think that we can throw that out. I guess we don't have to worry about excited about it. I think, I don't know. I think I need Jimmy Stewart to kind of like come back and maybe haunt this director. You think we need a haunting?

I think we need a haunting. We got to sprinkle a little haunt on it and that's what's going to do it. But then what if it becomes, you don't, you know, you send a ghost over to me. That's my hall pass. It depends on the ghost. But like, Jeff and I have told each other, you know, you don't have to ask beforehand. But if a ghost wants to have sex with you and you want to have sex with that ghost, that's our hall pass. That's our marriage hall pass.

And I know that you're not as like a disciple of its ownerful life as I am. But like, you will want to have sex with Jimmy Stewart. Oh, yeah. He's a incredibly attractive man. By the light of the moon. Yeah, I do. Of course I do. Yeah, I definitely, I want that young one.

I want the younger one. Yeah, yeah. That was back what he loved. Yeah, before his spirit is broken. But I'm going to watch that with Jeff this year because Jeff has never seen it. And every year we always, I'm like, this is the year. I'm going to make you watch it's a wonderful life. But you know, it is a hard get because not everybody wants to be sad at Christmas time.

I love to be sad at Christmas time. But my husband doesn't. It doesn't usually choose sadness. Okay, but it's okay because, and you know what, it's less long than sex in the city movie. I was going to say it's long, but it's two hours and ten minutes, which is just a wrong as long as the sex in the city movie. I'm going to think about why there's no need sex in the city movie to be two and a half hours long. That should be illegal. What else?

What do they have to say? That's why we need to watch this next year is because I have to see. why is it two and a half hours long? The most embarrassing part is that I've never noticed that it's a long movie. That's how engrossed I am in it when I watch it. That is the greatest confession I think you've ever said on this show. If you asked me, is the sex of the city movie long? It flies right by.

I don't know. I just slurp it right up. I didn't even notice time was going by. But you guys, I do, in lieu of watching whatever this KJ. Apo movie is going to be, if you have not. sat down with It's a Wonderful Life. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Yes, Jeff, it is, it gets sad. And I did, I do have a friend from college who said that it's a wonderful life is a story about how capitalism creates such despair that the only way of surviving it

is divine intervention. And that is true. Yeah. That is what, I mean, most Hallmark Christmas movies say that it's like, there's no point. It's like, you can hope for the fucking Christmas magic to do something. But if not, you're kind of fucked. But it is also, it's, It really nails the landing and it ends up being extremely wonderful and happy at the end because of divine intervention. And that's what we can all pray for this time of year. You know, speaking of prayer, I'm going to send a prayer up for MJ because this prayer goes out to you because we got into an argument. Well, we watched him up at Christmas Carol yesterday. And I feel like we need to bring this up publicly, MJ.

because MJ, we've watched Muppet Christmas Carol together. I think every year, I don't know what, for seven years. At least. And this is the first time that I, I guess, talked about. There's a moment where they go, yeah, gna, yeah, yeah, gna, yeah, gna, yeah, gna, la. In the middle of, it is a old man, baby-face choir. The little children.

The little children. that are they little children? Yeah, I think it's a little children's choir. There's a little choir that is singing during the Ghost of Christmas present song. During, which it feels like Christmas. It feels like Christmas. And they are by far the creepiest Muppets in the Muppet world because they have these weird baby, bald baby heads on these little body. and I don't see them as kids.

I see them as full-grown Muppets. But sometimes I feel like the flesh-colored Muppets are used against us. I don't think we're supposed to like the flesh-colored Muppets. I think those baby people things are creepy. And I wrote down this drunken quote from Holden yesterday while we did Jackin that Holden said those are only utilized as annoying or upsetting. And they said they make people on the fence not want to have kids. is what he said about those babies. Those Muppets. Yeah. He said that's what is, that's what's taking away. That's why I might choose to be childless. It's true that is because my feelings about the, and you were very upset with me. I did. I accused you of hating all children. And then I was clarified that you actually love children. You just hate it when they sing. I hate it when they sing. And I'm not a Tim Curry.

You're not a Tim Curry. You're the opposite of a Tim Curry. You love kids. You're lovely with kids. You just don't want them to sing. They open that trap. Oh, oh, once it gets, honestly, in about 40 minutes time, oh, no, I'm working through Winnie's choir. Oh, no, I'm so sorry, Winnie. I love you, Winnie. I'll go to every little dance fucking recital. I get all this stupid sponsor things that I got to get for all the fucking your Shalely lessons or whatever the fuck you're doing. I'm not going to the kids singing show.

I'm not going to it. Although I'm going to text you. My littlest child loves to sing. And when we sing the brohote every night for Hanukkah, she is like the Mariah Carey of the brohote. It's so cute. She's really like, she's like, barracotta don't night. Like she's real.

It's like she's putting her all into it. And I really love that. Don't you want to just shake that confidence out of her though? Like doesn't part of you just want to be like, you're never going to be accepted? No, I'm like you, I love that you're singing the brohote with the same emotion that you sing Pink Pony Club. I want you to keep that feeling.

But I understand the general idea that flesh-colored Muppets are uncomfortable, except to which I bring up the counterpoint that Mr. Jackie wants to fuck him himself, the Ghost of Christmas Present, is also a skin-colored Muppet. A white, a Caucasian, I should specify. He's a ghost.

I feel like as a ghost Muppet, that's a different category. Ghosts. Ghosts on the scale. Because it's the blush of life Because we know that he has to put on that blush of life Like Vampire the Mascarade To even present himself

And he chooses that exterior To make Michael Cain feel more comfortable Yeah, okay, that's fine I thought that you were going to yell at me For confessing that I also sometimes fast forward Not only through The Love is Gone But also that song Tiny Tim sings That's so slow

It's like you don't even like the movie, MJ You hate all who gather here. Why don't? It's cute. It's fine. It's tiny Tim. And here's the thing. I may be against the flesh-colored baby choir, okay?

But I love it when Tiny Tim sings. If it's a little frog or if it's a little fucking pig, I'm going to love to see him sing. Yeah. But you're against little frogs singing. Well, I've never confessed that. I'm not, and I don't fast forward through it now. But upon watching it with you at Holden last night, I would. I do think that that is going to be the point at which I lose my children's.

attention. I think they're going to leave the room at that time. Because I know you don't play the full theatrical version with when love is gone. I know you don't. I know you don't. And then do how do you explain to your kids why Rizzo and Gonzo are crying after the fulcrum of the movie if there's no fulcrum of the movie? How do you explain it? It's too, you know, sometimes there's things where you're like, I know that if my kids can tell how much I want them to like this, they're going to have an instinctively reactive like revulsion to it. And I'm so afraid of that. happening that I try to present it like neutrally like oh look at this movie because if I'm just

happened to find it but sometimes it's the opposite sometimes I'm like this is important to me and they're like okay great it's important to me too and then sometimes I'm like this is important to me and you know not just my kids all kids are like you know double middle finger and it's like and then you're like oh oh no and so I have to see how it goes but I just I'm just saying that I'm so glad they're not screaming fuck you at you yet like at least hopefully that's a couple the years off, right? Does that happen? What? Is that around? That's like nine, ten, when they start doing that. Parents sound off in the comments. My understanding is that it is the tween slash teen transformation. And then I'm going to be like, kids, come watch Bup at Christmas

Carol. And they'll be like, I don't want to spend time with you. But, you know, and again, that is fine. It is part of their identity development. And I'm prepared for it. All right. And I can't wait for this for you. Now, I also can't wait to go to Taco Bell with Ethan Hawk. I am bringing up as someone that, you know what, I was not in a great mood yesterday and I got a little Taco Bell to cheer me up, throwing it out there, they're bringing the casarito back and they're bringing the cheesy dipping burritos back, Adam. They're both coming back starting today, Adam. And I'm very excited about these things. And yeah, maybe that is a great, maybe that's a great will to live okay but maybe we need a little bit more Taco Bell special drops around the holidays and this is what keeps us going and Ethan Hawk I completely forgot I forgot that Ethan Hawk and Gwyneth Paltrow dated but it makes sense I'm assuming when they were in great expectations I think that's probably around that time we learned this like two months ago Jackie when we read the damn book no you be what knowledge what knowledge goes in here and what sticks

Oh, the only thing I remember is that I call when love has gone the fulcrum of Muppets Christmas Carol, and that's what I hang my hat on. I forgot about that, but that's okay because I was so busy getting excited because Ethan Hawk was talking about back when they would be together. No matter what good news he gets, he goes to Taco Bell. If he's having a good day, he goes to Taco Bell. Ethan Hawk is another Taco Bell snack fluencer out there, and I just want to, God, I'd love to hear his thoughts on the Casarita. and the cheesy dipping grito's coming back. So this is a little conversation between Gwyneth Paltrow and Ethan Hawks sitting down together

and chatting. It's not actors on actors, but it's like it is Vanity Fair. So maybe is it? I don't know. Anyway, they're chatting. And she brings it up. She's like, do you still like Taco Bell? Which, of course, she brought it up.

And he's like, oh, I love Taco Bell. I loved it then and I love it now. And then at the end of this little clip where he's talking about how this is like a fun thing he likes to do, what does Gwyneth Paltrow say? She says, it's a sickness. it's a sickness This is also the problem And it's just like forever

Forever my biggest problem with Gwyneth Paltrow Is the problem is she's a funny bitch She is a funny bitch But she's a funny bitch It's a sickness Just saying it's so deadpan Like such a like she's never smiled before Oh she means it

Which is crazy The bitch that put ozone therapy Up her asshole Says Taco Bell is the sickness Yeah you know what's a sickness Gwyneth Paltrow, Jade eggs. Jade eggs. Yeah, yeah, man. Porris, did you know? Yeah, he is so great, though. Leave us with our Taco Bell. I'm just so glad to be underneath, like, again, you know, I think it was a couple of weeks ago that we were talking about Ethan Hawker last week.

There was like, I hope that he is as good of a guy. And then I did kind of go into a worm time and everybody's just like, he's great. Yeah. We love Ethan Hawk. Yeah. Everybody loves Ethan Hawk. I'm so glad. Also, while we're talking about actors sitting down together, we got to talk about Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer. for Lauren's actors on actors. Oh, baby. Is this like our new thing? Like, is this, I feel like, it's been around for so long. You hear the echoes of what happens on the actors on actors, but now we've kind of just getting, we're getting wrapped up in.

It's good fodder. I mean, this one is especially good because Leonardo DiCaprio, and I say this, you guys, if I could have gotten a tattoo when I was 12, I would have gotten a tattoo of Leonardo DiCaprio's face. I went through a massive. Thank God we can't get tattoos when we're 12. Oh, my God. Do you imagine the full legoless back piece I would have?

Oh, my God. I was in a full, at least year-long obsession. I have seen, this is why I kept bringing up the basketball diaries during when Harry met Sally. I have seen every movie that Leonardo DiCaprio ever made up until 1997 when this hyper obsession happened. So that's not that many movies. But I have seen all of them.

And I loved that man. And to watch him now in conversation with Jennifer Lawrence, he is just the biggest piece of shit. He is so insufferable. And she, I know we like, laugh at her because she is so relatable. But she actually is relatable. It is very, I mean, again, she's another, but she is just a genuine, seems like a good hang. Totally. J-Lall seems like a good hang. And I feel like it's, it sucks. And especially in watching this interview, it sucks that

she got the like, not like the other girl's treatment. Because even though she is not like the other girls, that wasn't coming from her. Like, that narrative wasn't coming from her. She's just, it seems like a fun chick. Totally. I feel like. Honestly, I do, I do remember how people have I said chick, lass. I feel like, but she is kind of disgrunt. She's a chick. I wouldn't call her a broad. I feel like she's a chick.

Totally. And there was something. Now, forgive me, guys. You guys told us that she did do something that was kind of like between on the spectrum of cringe to cancel. It was somewhere in there that was like insensitive about the way that she spoke. I'm so sorry. I don't remember what it was.

So in other words, there was, I think some of the criticism that she got wasn't just like I don't like your vibe. but a lot of it was, I don't like your vibe. And I was watching her with Leo and I was like, I do like your vibe. And he has no vibe. He is, and Adam said before we started recording, it's like, when you are that level of megastar, like you can't develop into a proper human being, you know. And so she is, and like her skill is being like, I'm a megastar, but I do sound kind of fun.

And so like she's talking about, I think it's very funny part of this, actors on actors, where she's talking about how she was, he was like, do you ever watch your own work? And she was like, no. Or he said that he's never seen Titanic. That's what it was. And she was like, you've never seen Titanic. It's so good.

Like, you should watch it. And he's like, I don't really watch my own work. Do you? And she was like, yeah, one time I got wasted and put on American hustle to see whether or not I was a good actor. It's a good actor. Which is very relatable, I think. Except I'm more in the Leo kind of count.

It's like, I can't. I don't listen to anything. I can't watch anything. I have to just pretend when people are like, yeah, but you talk all the time into a microphone. I'm like, but I don't remember what I say. I don't remember any. Like, I feel like if I do, then I start getting all hung up in it. And then I start thinking about it all the time.

I go, it depends on how fragile my psyche is. I go like. Yeah, it depends on the year. You know, this year, no. Sometimes I will try to watch my work or listen back to it to improve, like to reflect and improve. Right. They're definitely point. You have to listen to your craft to be like, oh, I'm saying that a lot or I'm doing that a lot, and I should change that.

Yeah, but in 2010, I was in a stage show that was videotaped, and I guess we did have to watch it. But I was like, I'm too, I'm not strong enough to look at myself, you know, but I did think it was very funny to put on American hustle and get wasted. But yeah, he's like, he's just so, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how you go about being Leonardo to California. But he, it's, it's, I don't know, it's just kind of a bummer to see what a like, I think he just got famous too young. Yeah. I think he's, I think he's one of those. I think he just, he got famous too young. He's not a person.

He's not a person. Exactly. He's just not a person. In watching the interview, it just feels like he's so used to handlers and being brought from place to place. And I feel like it's like, and being put into a chair and being like, this is what you're doing now. and not having, I imagine the not having any real control over your day-to-day life will drive you crazy eventually. Like he's not a normal fucking person.

He seems alienated from his own self in a way. And like it's not even like when I think of like a Justin Bieber getting famous so young and we've seen him like struggle or even McCauley Culkin. You see him like the struggle of like being a child star and like transitioning to an adult. With Leo, I know that he was a child star. and, but there's just something about, it's like he's on such a different level of fame, you know, like being

that level of like a box office star where it's just like, yeah, he does, he just seems like a little man made out of clay in a way that's kind of sad, you know? Yeah, I just want to squash him. Like a little gallows. I don't want to squash him. I don't. How do you, Adam, how do you feel about Leonardo

here's the thing? I feel like I have so many feelings about him, but then I go see one battle and I'm like, but he's fucking great. That's the thing. Dude, he's still a good actor, right? One battle was my favorite performance, and now I officially like him. I have been in a slow motion trying to love him and embrace him this entire time. Okay.

He just had too much of a baby face to me, and I couldn't fully believe him ever. And each year, he's gone a little bit better and a little bit better for me. Honestly, I mean, but at the same time, I did love a lot of the movies he was in. You know, like, the Romeo and Juliet movie for me was gigantic. You know, more so than Titanic, you know, for me personally. I think it is, I think it's even better than Titanic. But it's been a gradual thing almost, I mean, you guys were talking about it earlier, but like a little bit like Ethan Hawke, it's been a gradual thing where I'm like,

when you're a young boy and there's this hot, handsome dude, you just, you immediately want to not love them. Right. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. In a bizarre way. Especially you, like, coming from a director's standpoint of like, oh, you're just, you're the hot. And like, I'm sure the kind of person you would probably dislike work. with on a set because he shows up and it's like all everything countows to him. It's all based around

what he can do. It's all based around him. That's got to be also an annoying perspective. Yeah. But I feel like honestly, at the end of the day, he's put himself behind a lot of movies and helped get things made. And, you know, I mean, he's probably a ridiculous person. But in terms of the actual work, I think he's getting better and better. I like him as he's aged more. Okay. I forgot about this boy's life. I loved that movie. I watched this boy's life. The one with him and Robert De Niro. I remember. He was a young one.

That was back when we were all obsessed with him. Yeah. And I really, oh, baby. I also, though, my issue was I loved what's eating Gilbert Grape so much, and I had seen it so many times that I would, and I was so much more obsessed with Johnny Depp because of what's eating Gilbert Grape and Benny in June. In my brain, I felt like I had, I remember being young and feeling like, I can't like them both. And so I chose Johnny Depp instead, and which is such a weird, I'm just uncovering

this now. It's like, I remember actually thinking that, being like, oh, but that's like his younger brother in that. So like, I can't like them both. So I'm, I'm a Johnny. And I chose Johnny instead because of Edward Cisorhands. I mean, like, you know, that's, I'm a, I'm forever goth. I'm forever goth, maybe. It's very funny to me that you have seen, um, what's eating over grape so many times as a Leo head, but not the basketball diaries, which, again, I did keep bringing up during When Harry Met Sally because of when Harry met Sally and I have not seen the basketball diaries. Billy Crystal's best friend in When Harry Met Sally is Bruno Kirby, who also plays the basketball coach in the Basketball Diaries. And spoiler alert for the basketball diaries.

He's bad. He's a bad man. Not a good guy. Not a good guy. And MJ could not get past it when Harry Met Sally. I was having a very hard time with Bruno Kirby and when Harry Met Sally. But, you know, this was early. Can I watch Basketball Diaries now?

Like, is this, like, as someone that I, like, we are far too old to, oh, Lorraine Broncos in it, never mind, I'll watch it. I think it might be too. I don't, I shouldn't say that. I was going to say it might be too upsetting for you, but you watch extremely upsetting movies all the time. I love it to be sad. You told me to watch the first 40 minutes of Hereditary and see if I liked it. So I think that you'll be okay.

It is upsetting. That is one of my better gets. I do feel that's a pretty good. get. I'm still recovering. So, yes, yeah, you know what? Go watch the basketball diaries. Still recovering.

Watch it during the day. See how you feel. Watch it right before you have to pick up a kid and see what it does for you, the way that I watch hereditary. You'll certainly put those windows up. I'll tell you what. You'll definitely put the child lock on those windows. We're not talking about a redditory.

It's the holiday season. Holiday season. Did you see the story that I just put in the document, which is that the cold play kiss cam lady breaks her silence? Why? It is to say the following. Why not? Wait, what do you, is it, is she going through a div? Is she getting a D-I-V-O-R-C-E?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, so definitely. So this is her first interview with the New York Times since this happened, which is what, four months ago, five months ago, she said, I made a bad decision and I had a couple of high news. and danced and acted inappropriately with my boss. And it's not nothing. I took accountability and I gave up my career for that. That's the price I chose to pay. Oh, yeah.

So did she divorce so? I couldn't get past how funny it was to blame it on the high noons. It's the high noons. You know, when a bitch gets a couple of high noons in her, all of a sudden hands her around waist, we're kissing. Like it's just, I don't know what happens. Once I start hitting those mild alcohol. exceltzies, although I guess the high noons

are the liquor ones, right? Those are the ones. Yeah, those are like the vodka ones. So, all right, fine, I'll give it to her. But it is weird that she's doing it now. I'm wondering if she got paid. I'm hoping that she got paid, I guess, to do it. To give the interview?

It's total denial. She's like, I thought he was a good looking guy. She had a little like work crush on him. I don't think, and she was, you know, I guess she was already in the process of getting separated. I don't think my separation would have come as a surprise to him, but his definitely did for me. To have someone else going through it at the same time as you that you can talk to

was an amazing support. So I think the story is that they were both going through to little divorceo times, and then they had a couple of high nudes, and they started rubbing on each other. Oh, you get handsy. Yes. Okay. And this interview is just very, very funny because she's just like, it just happened. She's like, oh, he was there. We were in the middle of an incredibly an amazingly amicable separation. I, um, and then, you know. Not amicable anymore, huh? I don't think it is.

And she says she has a couple of high noons. They start swaying together. And then she goes, oh my God, he's my fucking boss. This is a bad look. Boston's not a big town. And, uh, and then, uh, and then, uh, and then the kiss cam found them. So blame it on the high news. And we all started talking about cold play again.

And it's crazy. Cold play's just out there still cold playing all around. Yeah. And still selling out. Oh, I don't know if they're selling out. I can't speak for that. It is, I pulled up a list just, you know, this is our, we are, you're still getting all your episodes for the next couple of weeks, but this is our final MJ and I, you know, for our holiday

episode. Yes, we worked ahead for you guys. You're getting new stuff next two weeks, but yes, yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. But this, you know, I just want to go through some of the big pop culture moments of this year because it is crazy. Oh, yeah. I think that my brain has been so weird and warped

that I can't believe all of this stuff happened this year. I mean, the fact that I did remember that Katie Perry went to space this year and all this stuff. It is weird that Katie Perry is, like, I think one of the top people we talked about this year, which is nuts. And I don't like that.

It goes to show what her PR team has been doing nonstop, it's considering like her. tour failed, the space trip failed, she's dating Justin Trudeau. You know, it's like, what a weird, like, I thought I had a weird view. Look at Katie Perry. At least our year wasn't Katie Perry's year. You know, lost a parent, but at least you didn't have Katie Perry's year. Good Lord, I know she got to go to space, but I don't know if that's, I don't know if that

was worth it for all of this shit, because I also, it's funny on this list, it makes me think of an hour white elephant that we were playing. Adam included all of the press release packet, all the, which also, how did you get all of this stuff for Amelia Perez, which was this year? That was this year? This year. Adam, where did, Jeff opened it first. I was so happy. Where did you get all of the stuff for all, for Amelia Perez?

Your white elephant gift was a press packet from Amelia Perez. It was like a vinyl. It's the script. The soundtrack, the script. It was like little postcard. It's so much Amelia Perez crap. It's so funny. And I was so happy to see Jeff immediately go for it.

It was wonderful. Oh my God. It was so funny. And every time people will go for a gift, Jeff would be like, Amelia Perez, full press package. You get, I mean, this is, I have a feeling that this is going to be the gift in our friend group now that's going to continue coming back for every. White Elephant because who, but where did you get it? Oh, well, you know, I mean, Ed just keeps leaving crap in the studio. Oh my God. Oh, so he just had all this shit.

I ended up with like a stack of stuff every year that I end up throwing out. And I'm just like, oh, whatever. I mean, that's what white elephant is for. Yes. Okay, this is what I. Yeah, that's how I feel. I feel like you shouldn't be for White Elephant, we shouldn't be buying shit. Nothing should be.

It should be, but it could still be fun stuff. Like, I mean, like I brought up the vibrators that I brought. brought from Bolesa because I have a collab with Bolesa and they sent me a bunch of free vibrators. And I didn't need all the vibrators because I already have them. So I got to give away to my friends white elephant vibrators. Yeah, that's a great, that's a great white elephant gift. Yeah, dude. I mean, I'll tell you, Holden McNeely's wife is 100% happier than she was last week. And it's all because of Balesa. Not that I'm saying she needed it the most. I'm just saying And she's up there.

You're like nudging it to the front when it's her turn. This one. That's one. She was, someone else had opened Rob, producer of last podcast, opened it. And he is a single dude. And he opened it. And it was a purse. I put in a haunted mansion purse and a vibrator.

And he opened it. And he was like, well, I hope I have someone use this with someday. Yeah. There was a lot of single dudes with vibrators for a second. And when it was Lexi's turn, it was like, Lexi, take that fucking vibrator. He was like, you need that vibrator. Rob does not need the vibrator. And Lexi was like, no, I can't.

I was like, bitch, you take that fucking vibrator. Also, the purse was a haunted mansion purse, and it was purple. And purple's her favorite color. It's like, it was designed for her. I wrapped it thinking of her. I thought about you. Not while I'm using the vibrators. Don't.

I'm not trying to break up marriages during the white elephant. I'm trying to encourage the lust of marriages. But also, Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley, I feel like we've been making jokes about them being together for at least two years. Oh, my God. He over-dies his beard so desperately. Sorry, I'm just looking at a picture of him right now, and it's so comical how dark his beard is.

But they only got together this year. Yeah, I remember. I remember that. It's a bad year. It has been. The Bezos wedding was this year. That, yeah. I remember that Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman broke up this year because I mean, I'm going after her.

I tell you what, it was very funny. I saw some Jane Fonda did a parody of the Nicole Kidman AMC, but I forget it was all about like making fun of corporations and being like, oh, yes, don't we want to go see what the billionaires pick out for us to watch? Oh, you know they get our sensibilities. And it's just, Jane, man, Jane Fonda's just, oh, bitch. I love her. She's 87. I need you to hang on for another 10 years, Jane Fah. I need you to Dick Van Dyke this shit, okay?

Yes. And I love that she, because even, like, the Nicole Kidman ad, no one's even really talking about it anymore. Don't worry, in L.A., people are still clapping. Yes, they still clap for Nicole in a lot of screenings. Most of the screenings I go to, actually, I have started wanting to clap. for Light is our hero, the section before the Nicole Kidman section, when AMC sucks itself off because it feels like it has brought the concept of light to human beings.

And it really is just like, AMC, you better get on your knees, you fucks. You've never seen a movie before this. And that's the commercial I want to be championing. But yeah, they broke up this year. God, the Gene Hackman thing, that was, yeah, there's a, there's lots of upsets. I know. Many, many upsets this year. So many.

Yeah, the year started with, Cindy Sweetney bullshit, all the jeans shit. L.A. setting on fire was the start of, it was the start of this year. Insane. And then, you know, yeah, we've got Lily Allen, Jojo Siwa. And it's so funny. Holden has really been trying to hold down the like, I'm still going to watch Violent Night. I think David Harper is fine. I'm separating the art for the artist and was like, he's like, just because there was one bad

album written about him, I was like, I think there's more than that. Yeah, I mean, I do know that he's listening, he's listening to that Lily Allen album a lot. So I do, at first, I was like, if he can still like David Harbor, given how much he loves that album, then maybe we could trust that. But he also is, I think, carefully not looking into any of the other gations against Harbor. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Violent Night when I saw it in the movie theater, but I'm not, now, I'm not going to watch it again probably. You know, that was, I'm good.

Yeah, is Violet Knight a one that you need to view several times? No. It doesn't seem like that. Yeah. Watch Die Hard. You want to watch, you want to watch it, you want to watch an action, Christmas movie? And I'm not saying don't make more Christmas action movies because I enjoy them, not read one, but I do enjoy other ones.

But, um, yeah, just watch, put on gremlins. Do we, do we talk about how McCulley Culkin also got booed when he said the diehard's not a Christmas movie and everybody booed him at his own event? he is doing, I wish I had gone. He was at the theater near my house doing his, like, he's doing like a home alone, like watch back and talk back, like the John Cusack thing that I saw. Oh, cool. Yeah.

And he is like, he's, it's another part of this like little McCauley healing experience he's having. He's like, yeah, like getting to like watch it in the theaters and like see everybody's reactions to all these parts. Oh, that's always just been work to me. But, but yes, he said die hard's not a Christmas movie because it could. take place at any other holiday and still be the same movie, which I think is a good definition of what makes a Christmas movie.

But it is still holiday part. It's still Christmas. It's still Christmas. It is still, but it's not. It's not. It's like how I say Sex and the City. It's like saying when Harry Met Sally wouldn't be a New Year's Eve if it just didn't have the New Year's Eve in it. You're right. It wouldn't be. But it does have New Year's

even. Yeah. Like Sex in the City movie is a New Year's movie to me because there is a single scene that takes place at New Year's. And when Harry Met Sally has two scenes. that may take place in New Year's, which makes it officially... Two pivotal scenes. Yeah, and New Year's Eve is a character in the movie, so therefore it's a New Year's Eve movie. Yes, but also thank you for including the link that Josh Brolin loves K-pop Demon Hunters,

because I also think it's very cute. I love that he loves K-pop Demon Hunters, and Josh Boland, while I don't think we should be looking into the work, Josh Bowling, I think, but I am happy that he likes K-pop Demon Hunters. He said that he had to take his kid home from a party and a party. his kid was really upset. And he said, okay, well, why don't we watch a movie together? We'll watch K-pop Demon Hunters. And he said, he sat down on the couch and he was like, God, I don't want to watch some kids movie right now. Like, this is going to be so boring. And then by the end of the movie, he was sobbing. And he said it was one of the best movies he's ever seen.

So good. I love it. I love it. I am the Bad Bunny. I'm like, people are talking about movies. I like K-pop Demon Hunters. You're talking about music. I like K-pop Demon Hunters. I am bad bunny. Hell yeah. I love this. I only also, I wanted to include, this article because I'm becoming obsessed with Robbie Hoffman and I know that Robbie Hoffman just released I think she just put out an hour, a special as

well and it's just I am obsessed with her and I every like clip I see of her especially talking about her marriage I love that she talks about like like because she's married to Creshell

from selling sunset also from traders and Wait, wasn't Chris Ler married to G-Flipp, or am I mixing up? Oh, God, am I mixing them up? Who's married to... No, you're right, Jackie. Are you right, okay, okay. Who's married to G-flip?

Crishel. Who's married to G-flip spouse? Robbie Hoffman's spouse. Gabby Windy, who is also on... That's what it is. And from Bachelor life, I'm sorry. I do love Creschelle from Traders And I please excuse me everybody

But I also fucking love Gabby Windy And I'm very I knew it was another couple That I enjoyed them together I love G Flip and Grishell And I love Robbie Hoffman And I love Gabby Wendy These couples have a very similar like vibe They are yes, it's a cool fun

That like I would love to be a part of their relationships I just want And I think that Robbie Hoffman I keep seeing these clips talking, like, her talking about, like, discussing that, like, the life of a husband and what it is. And, like, and she was just like, I, my, like, my birthday was like, husband's birthday? She's like, dinner.

You go out to dinner. That's it. You don't get a party. You don't have to go and do a, that's not for a husband. That's not, that's not a husband. And, like, Robbie talking about herself, like, about, like, we don't want those. I just want to go out to dinner with my wife. That is a, that is a husband.

husband's birthday for you. That's good, because that's all I'd do for my husband. But, like, it's just all of this, like, these hard truths, she's so fucking funny. I, uh, I just, I was, so we brought up this article talking about, she was talking with Josh Peck about where to put the menorah during Hanukkah. Oh, yes, yes. That's, I just, I only use that as a way for me to have a platform to say, I really like Robbie Hoffman.

Okay, yes. Thank you for putting, for connecting those dots, because that article. was very funny about where to put the menorah because, yes, you're not supposed to blow out the candles, which was an adjustment for me, because it was very anxious. I was like, we can't leave these candles unattended. And we got cats. They're going to knock them over.

So to answer your question, Jackie, we don't cover everything in tinfoil the way that you have a memory of you? I brought up in this article because I remember my best friend was Jewish growing up, and I just remember in their kitchen, the mother would like cover everything in tinfoil.

She wanted to make sure that nothing would happen to the gate. And she's like, nothing gets set on fire if there's tinfoil. And nothing gets set off it. If there's tinfoil, nothing gets set on fire. And she just, and she covered everything around.

And I just remember, and I thought that all Jewish homes did that. I thought that was a part of Hanukkah was putting out the tinfoil to make sure that the house didn't set on fire. So that's why I liked this article so much because they were talking about where do you keep the menorah? If you got to keep

the lights on all the time. Josh Peck puts it in the sink, which I do think is hilarious. Yes. And Robbie often obviously does not like that. But we do not put it in the sink, but we light them. And then I like carefully assign an adult to watch the candles until they are out. And yes, we do put a lot of tinfoil down. I love Hanukkah, man, except that I always forget to get enough gifts.

But I am so happy to have married into. So many days of it. Yes. So many days of it. so many days, but I'm very happy to have married into Hanukkah. And happy Hanukkah to all of you who are celebrating. Happy Hanukkah to everybody. And also, I did start falling in love with Robbie Hoffman in Hacks. If you're watching season four of Hacks, that's, like, I, I only knew her because I was following Gabby, Wendy, from Traders. So I had then had just been seeing

Robbie Hoffman. And then when I saw her in Hacks, I started falling in love. Yeah, I should Watch your special. This is a really cool story, like being like formerly Hasidic and coming out as queer. That's why I kind of want to just know everything about, I want to be best friends with her. I'm putting this out into the universe. I'd like to be best friends with her. I'd like to meet her. I think that we would get along. I think we'd have fun. Just, you know, you got to put out your intentions into the universe, MJ. You never know. You never know. You never know what if someone's listening. It's like, I am, I'm cousins with Robbie Hoffman. You know, great. Not to put any pressure on you, but as we close out this, this says,

Oh, God, what are you going to do, MJ? What are you doing? Not if you have any, like, I was going to say reservations, no reservations. No, what do we call them resolutions, but not a resolution, but like an intention. Your intention is to get to know Robbie Hoffman more in 2026. Do you have any other intentions? You had a very difficult 2025, Jackie, and I wish you a much better 2026. Thank you.

Thank you so much. And that's the thing. you know, I have made the joke on a Jackie's book club, got to get your fix, 2026, and I don't even know what that means necessarily, but I keep saying it to myself. And I was like, I think that I've got to like go after new things that I start to get addicted to. Like, I think that this is like a, okay, let's start working. I also really wanted to be 25% more of a bitch this year. I was too busy grieving and I didn't get to. Oh, yeah. So I feel like, I don't know, catch up on that. Do I be 26% more of a bitch next year? I don't know. I also want to be adding more accessories into my life. Okay. I really, I've tried with hats in the past. They never stick. Yeah, was it 2022 bucket hat? I have so many bucket hats and I forget to put them on or I lose them. I have to strap them to my head like I'm a little kid with mittens. Like I can't, I just, I lose them. So I'm, I want to try more things. Now,

MJ, what do you want to bring into 2026? Man, I'm living moment to moment. I should, I should have intentions. I have been, I'm grateful for 2025. I had an okay year. I am really, really, really grateful to be. You went back to grad school these years. You had, this is a big transitional, large, this is a big year for you. Yes. And I just finished my semester and I've been, so I've been reflecting on that a little bit. I'm deeply thankful to be working with kids again. and it's been a very meaningful experience. Six, seven to you. And so, yeah, you know, I think I often reflect on what an incredibly meaningful experience tour was for us.

And like, tour really brought, like, tour made page seven real to me in this way that is, like, impossible to explain. And it's something that I think you and I both always hope to get to do again, you know? Yes. Yes. And so, yeah, I'm grateful that I got to connect with this other part of myself, which is the educator part. And, yeah, going into 2026, I don't know, man. I just hope that I hope you have a better year than you did 2025. I hope we all have an okay time. That's my intention going into 2026.

I hope we all have to- scrounge up some hope, okay? Yes, hope. There you go. We need that's what we need. Hope is a discipline. We need some light. We need some bright.

We need to be working towards positive things. We need to try to add some positivity into our lives. And you know what? If you struggle on that, that's okay. to. Yes. Let's just go into it with the intention to try. We'll try to be positive. And isn't that wonderful? Don't be the Goop. Be the Ethan Hawk. Be the Ethan Hawk. It's a sickness. And it's a sickness I've got and I'm not looking for a cure. Thanks, Goop. I'm certainly not coming to you for a cure. That's for damn sure. Now, thank you so much, MJ, for this wonderful

year. You know, I meant to get into these Jackie Snackies because I've been meaning to bring them because I'm so worried, you know, I'm not supposed to get into the snackies before I bring the snackies. And I'm going to say it, I got into the snackies that someone sent me and I feel that I need to bring them up before they're all gone. And then I forget to bring them up because MJ, these are from Dubuque. Hello from Dubuque. What? I've been a snack gate girl. And it ain't ended anytime soon. Please enjoy the pride of the Midwest. Fine, the pride of Eastern Iowa, squirt that bird from Lisa in Dubuque. Is it a turkey and dressing sandwich?

What could it possibly be? No. Have you heard of Betty Jane? Oh, my God. They sent you Betty Jane. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Bro. You've been sitting next to a box of Betty Janes this whole time. You didn't tell me? I've been a snacking girl. This is why. Oh, baby. And I'm so, when I had read that they were from Dubuque, I was like, oh, God, I need to save these when, like, MJ,

comes into town, nope. No, you're going to eat that. Oh, baby, you hit that bong. When that bong along comes a call along. And I was looking at these betty's bites. I was looking at these gremlins. And I was like, I got to see what this is all about. I need everyone.

If you're looking to, I'm assuming this is also shopping small. Yes. And if you want to send somebody candies, look up Betty Jane candies. Raw. The shit's insane. It's, Betty's bites are these like, okay, you know, it's all right. It's like, oh, it's chocolate covered like caramel pretzels. Fucking what?

They're so good. Like, I was like, oh, I've had stuff like that before. And then I bit into it. And it has such a good. So it's pretzels, caramel, chocolate. And it's covered with thick chunks of sea salt on top. So it's just the combo. Oh, my God.

The combo together is just, I think there's two left in this bag. Jeff and I, we couldn't stop. I lost. I blacked out. And when I started the gremlins, there are like two gremlins left in the box. I'm so sorry. That makes me so sorry. Lisa, that I couldn't wait for M.J.

I'm sorry, MJ. This person asked me, should I send Jackie Betty Jains? And I can't believe they did it. I'm so glad that you did it. I'm so glad you're experiencing. Betty Jains had a little, a little freestanding store, but they also had a little place in the mall. And you know that feeling when you're walking around the mall? and then you smell the like hometown chocolate store.

I can smell it still in my head. Oh, man, that's so, that makes me so happy. That truly does. That makes me wish I was going back home. I'm coming home tonight. Oh my God, I think you might like it. No, we're at the end of the episode. So just go look up.

I think you might like it. Obviously. Oh, and agent, it's a wonderful life. So you should probably listen to you. I think you might like it before watching It's a Wonderful Life this year. So you can also watch the teaser trailer again to remind you of maybe, possibly it's a darkly comedic take of Jimmy Stewart by KGEPA, but we all know it's not going to be. Wow, it all comes together. Yeah, John Revolta's son has different eggs than Kelly Preston.

You've been following that's where we don't have to get into it. Anyway. Different eggs. I don't know how to say Riley Keog's last name. Oh my God, Riley Keog was the eggs of the baby. They're at Riley's eggs. Elvis's granddaughter's eggs. Elvis's granddaughter's eggs.

But yes, go watch. I think you might like it. And tis our holiday, tis one of our many holiday traditions. And, yeah, that's 2026, Cullen. I think you might like it. That's where I'm going to leave it. I hope we do like it. I hope we might like it.

How about that? I hope we might like it. I think, yeah, that's something good to settle on for this holiday season. We are wishing all of you guys, best, the brightest, the patienceest that you can be. And again, you're not missing any episodes over the next couple of weeks. We will just be off for the holidays. So we are sending so much love, but you will not miss a goddamn thing. Also, get over to the Patreon. We are being punished for our horniness catholicly on Jackie's Book Club on Monday because I think it's like the book

knew that it was Christmas week and wouldn't allow us to be horny. So I get very upset during that. So definitely check that out. We are in the beginning. Every episode of Buffy, we're like, oh, this one's not going to be sad. And then we cry.

So check out Buffy. Is that a pitch? Is that the pitch that people want? But also check out our celebrity holleries that we've got of us screaming about holiday stuff. Everything's over on the Patreon. come hang out with us.

You're not going to be lonely over the holidays. We'll make it through together. And don't forget, we're going to have the movie watch-alongs with the full movie illegally on the day before the next two Wednesdays over on the Patreon. So check that out if you don't want to have to pay, you know, Netflix or anything to watch. Yes, I see you little exit surveys on Patreon. I joined for the Adams Family Watchlong. Thank you and goodbye. And we love that for you.

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