Page 7 - Second Helpings - Hang Dong

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

This week on 'Second Helpings' Jackie's got somethin' weight on her after season 1, episode 4 of 'How To with John Wilson', and everyone's excited for his new collab with Mamdani. Then we're hoppin' right into the 'Primetime' discourse after Jackie went to see it again, all for that Lipnicki dong. Julia Stiles got to stay on Dancing and Jackie's now confirmed Banana Ball fan. It appears they medieval up Lily-Rose Depp's face for WERWULF after all the iPhone Face complaints with Nosferatu. Elizabeth Holmes is still terrifying. Lili Reinhart is havin' a style moment on the press tour for 'The Love Hypothesis', AND SO MUCH MORE!!!!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome, welcome, welcome everybody to second helpings. My name is Jackie Zabrowski. And I'm MJ. The story of the week may have been Chet and Rita's back crosses, but your second helping of the week is that Jackie saw prime time twice. Twice, twice, twice. Did I see it twice? Yes, I did.

And maybe it's just because I needed to see the little boy from Jerry McGuire hangedong just one more time. I'm glad you brought that in. Of course, of course I brought it in because I was upset the first time I saw it. MJ because I didn't realize it was the little boy from Jerry McGuire hanging dong in the movie. Now a man. Now a man. Now a man. Now a man. Fully grown man. He is. In fact, you know what? Grew up, his face grew into the shape of his head, unlike Haley Joel Osman. So I was surprised about that. And really, the face to head shape was not as off putting as looking at his penis. I don't know if it was his real penis. or not, though. Yeah. I mean, you know, we talk all the time about how hard it is for child actors to

grow up. And it seems that one of the rights of passage for child actors to say, hey, everybody, I'm grown up now, is to hang dong. So look at this shlong I got. Yeah. Some people have, there's all sorts of different kind of ceremonies that we observe to celebrate the, you know, becoming an adult. And child actors hang and dong is one of them. Honestly, this is reminding me of, I was just rewatching some of the how-to with John Wilson. I don't know if you've ever gotten into John Wilson before. No. Oh, my God, MJ.

I, oh, my God, MJ. Start watching how to with John Wilson. You will love it. In fact, he has a whole episode out about scaffolding, right? And it is essentially putting together, he is the kind of guy like an old school hipster guy that has always had a camera on with him. and now like put stuff like stuff that's executively produced by Nathan Fielder.

I'll say that. So it is in that, at least in a weirder kind of environment, right? He's got a whole episode on scaffolding that he shot in New York probably like 10 years ago, maybe more than that. And recently, because Mom Donnie has been doing this whole big bid against scaffolding or reinventing scaffolding, John Wilson and Mom Donnie. Donnie put out this like trailer together that he's working with John Wilson about the scaffolding issue in New York. Fun.

That's funny. I love, I also just saw that Mom Donnie went, was, did a show with Jimmy Kimmel in L.A. And I thought about you because, you know, everyone's like, wow, look at everybody cheering for a mayor. This could never happen in L.A., you know, and it was, it was very sweet. Maybe someday, though, we're going to have our own mom, Donnie, everybody. and the reason why I'm bringing up how to right now was because, speaking of hanging dong, I forgot I wanted to bring up.

How to hang dong? Well, this man was talking about how to regrow your circumsized penis. And this one specific dude, he had created this weight system that you attach the weight to the outside of your foreskin that with the weight of gravity over time, you can regrow your feet. foreskin. And it's because in how to John Wilson, it kind of follows the story of where all of a sudden he's like, he meets this character and it takes him down this lane. And so a show that ends up being about something else ends up being about, you know, regrowing your foreskin and you had no idea. And there's just a whole section of shooting of this old man completely like taken off his pants, attaching the weight, showing him, how.

how the weight system works. And then he also showed how he can lay down in the bed and attach the weight to the headboard so that it can also yoink up on your foreskin while you're asleep. Even when you're lying down, you never take a break. Never stop pulling. This is so counterintuitive to me because I really feel like gravity is the enemy of private parts everywhere.

You know, so the idea of purposefully, not foreskin. Yeah. So you need like a harness for your balls, but a weight for your foreskin, you know. And that's the wait. You're going to have to wait for everybody because we can't show it here. And I bet you're all wondering, everyone that's watching the YouTube, why is Jackie kind of dressed like she's blayed? Or Space Man Jenkins?

Remember that? That's so sad that it was before we had YouTube. Dr. Spachemann? Remember I would hold it had some sort of like eye pupil dilation. Oh, Space Man Jenkins. Space Man Jenkins. Yes. And we had those big medical sunglasses on.

And it was the only people who ever saw it were you and me, Jackie. And I still think about how funny it was. It was just so funny. And now you're giving Space Man Jenkins. Thank you so much because I was grabbing my coffee this morning. And the young person behind the counter was like, I really like your sunglasses. And I was like, do you? Because Henry gave me these sunglasses for my birthday.

And when I first opened them, I was just like, thank you. And he said, they're all the rage. it's what all the young people are wearing. And I don't think that's true, MJ. I think it's just me and Henry. Because for those that aren't looking, I kind of look like these are the, you'd think that it would be like Star Trek

if it were all one shape. But it's not. Instead, it's a little bit lighter than Star Trek. It's a little bit more aerodynamic than Star Trek. But again, is that what the youth are giving? right now. The tough thing is that any time a young person gives you a compliment, you don't know whether they're being sarcastic. And this young person usually is very nice to me. And so I don't think that, like, he definitely was, you know, laugh at, like smiling about it. And I was like,

Tyler, tell it to me, it's true. Tyler, you look me in the eyes. And you tell me that I look good with these sunglasses on. And he did. He looked me right down the barrel. And he said, ma'am, I enjoy your sunglasses and I said don't call me ma'am ever yeah that's uh you got to the you got to call somebody miss is calling them ma'am implies that they're old is that why people don't like i guess but at the same time what is he really gonna call me miss i don't think so call me captain yeah i think i only want to be referred to as captain and i know i don't wear captain's hat no i'm not captain come on the s big cock hold in yeah we can't all be that sexually unfrozen out there on the seas. Yeah, well, you know, I know that you like to experiment with various trends that

the young people are doing. And I didn't believe you. Advanced accessories. Thank you. I didn't believe you when it was bucket hats and you were right. And I didn't believe you when it was Crocs and you were right. And I was right. Yeah. And also I feel like all this conversation the second we said the word glee, MJ, I swear to you, the earths parted. The, the earths parted. I know. The many earths that exist. They all parted. Every dimension went tipsy topsy because we said the word glee and now if we don't watch it, I'm worried that we're going to have to end up doing a whole other tour to unwind a curse. Or do you think that we are going to be cursed while watching glee discuss? Oh yeah. No, I think the curse is going to be, it's like the ring, like it's going to be passed to us upon watching it. But you're totally right. You,

Seven days. You were like, maybe we could watch Glee. And since then, it's like how when the algorithm, like your phone hears, you'd be like, I think we need to do Kitchen Island. But it's like all, and then everything's a kitchen island, but all of. But it's all like Jeffrey Epstein's Island and you're all just like, am I on Ellen right now? But it's not. We're talking that different kind of island algorithm.

But yeah, Ryan Murphy is everywhere right now. And thank you to everyone who reminded me of the various many offensive things he's done and the mistakes he has made. Oh, wow. They are plentiful. I can't believe. I forgot about the Dahmer thing. I mean, so many.

And gee, like we forgot about so many things. It's a prolific man. Yeah. Just really out there churning out the content. Yeah. I would say that. Yeah. I think that we have so much to learn on this journey that we're all going to go through

together because does that mean we're going to become Gleaks or are we going to be the anti-Gleek? No, I'm going to fucking love it, Jackie. It's musical theater for people who work in the aughts. Like, I, I, I'm afraid for, because nobody's going to want to talk to me about Glee in 2026. You're like, what you went through with Buffy is what I'm going to go through with Glee. This is the problem is that I feel like that's exactly what's going to happen, MJ.

You did Buffy, let's be real, you did Buffy for me. Yeah. And I know that I'm doing Glee for me. Vampires mean nothing to be but musical theater, but musical theater. And even though they are all in their 20s, I still, I'm probably going to struggle with the fact that we are watching still in my brain. You know, some people that can or cannot read sing while, you know, being in a school type atmosphere. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm either going to love it or I'm going to be furious because it will bring out, both of us did, you know, state theater contests.

and you either love what you see or you turn into a total little bitch. And you're like, they think that they can do that scene from rent and they can't. And I feel like I might become one of those too. So time we tell what we are. I think it's official. We can say that if you do want to see two people in their upper 30s to lowest 40s experience. Lowest 40s. Experience glee for the first time in 2026, that will be happening over.

at the page 7 Patreon, we have put several years, meaningful years into watching Buffy, realizing this whole extra dimension of life that we had been missing out on. It meant a lot to everybody, especially Jackie. Vampires, you know, not still. Vampires rise. Still about my thing, but I enjoyed many beautiful gowns. You know, I loved the acting. It was more than beautiful gowns, MJ.

We cried, okay? If we were in the same room, we would have been embracing each other. and we don't even like to touch. You're right. It was great acting. It was great storytelling. And I loved it despite it being about vampires. And I think that the writing and storytelling and glee is going to be much worse.

But it seems to be a foundationally important text to people. And that's what we're doing here at page seven. We are exploring the various texts that have shaped us. Yes. Oh my gosh. So many have shaped us. Like what prime time has done to the rest of my week. seeing it two times in a row.

I love this for you. One night after the other was really, you know, it was a choice. Like me when I saw Waymiz on Radio's at Radio City. Except, yeah, it was, it was a lot cheaper and a lot more dong. Yeah. But I mean, I guess maybe you get more dong for your buck then. And it depends on what you're paying for the AMC Stubbs for. And obviously, I'm here for the dong.

I'm happy I saw it twice. So we touched on this on yesterday's show that. that you saw it and that Chris Hanson also saw it, the subject of crime as portrayed by Robert Pattinson, the host of To Catch a Predator, and he then stood in Times Square and proceeded to tell people as they came out of the theater that that's not what it was like.

It wasn't realistic. And I've never seen anything funnier in my life. So we talked briefly about this yesterday, but I want to know what motivated you to see it twice. And then I do want to, I would love to talk more about what you loved about it. And even though I haven't seen it yet, I have a lot of thoughts about the cultural phenomenon of to catch a predator.

Yes. And that's kind of what I want to get into because I'm excited that in seeing it again, I saw it with a different group of people. So it was like the first time I saw it, it was just like, hell yeah, everybody kills the movie. And that is for sure. Like everybody in it, Merritt Weaver is. her name, Merritt Weaver, who plays the producer, who I didn't even, uh, didn't bring up

yesterday. Unbelievable. Like really, the acting is amazing. That guy from Righteous Jemson owns whose name. Skyler Gizondo is true. And I think that in watching it again, watching his portrayal again, fabulous. Yeah. Really, really, but none of the movie even touches any of the, any of the,

idea of whether or not to catch a predator should have been on the air in the first place. Really? It's more important of Chris Hanson as a mad scientist. But the characterization of all of them in this point of time of when reality was so much about the most disturbing, about hating something. When it becomes a beast that is not able to be controlled. controlled anymore. Right.

And I think that we see that so much. In fact, I was talking with Jeff a lot about how much it didn't get into, I would say, and how the one thing that I will definitely say in the second viewing is that such an abrupt ending to a point that it might almost lose half a letter grade for me. Really? Because they don't deal with any of it. And now, but then in talking about it, I also feel like it is also damning of the entire production by not saying what they felt in making the movie of whether or not they should have even have been doing this stuff in the first place. Damning of prime time to not engage with the merits of to catch a predator as a show, you mean? Correct.

Because I feel like part of it was to not say. whether or not they agreed with the show being taken off the air. If they agreed with whether or not Chris Hansen was doing that in the first place, if they agreed or not with the idea of a judge and jury, an actual using evidence to, but now you think like, but there is evidence, but there's no trial,

but they're not getting any kind of, there is no justice in this. Now, I'm not saying that as someone, it's like, of course, I'm anti-benefile. I'm not saying that. It's just the idea over whether or not it should or should not exist,

especially on public television. But also, I guess we're going to have to find out how you feel about that after this sponsored content. Yeah, I... Maybe it was for prime time and maybe it was for, I don't know, you know, trapping men and hopefully they turn into the boy from Jerry Maguire and then all of a sudden he's hanging dong. then all of a sudden he wants you to fuck your cat.

So, so the, so prime time as a film doesn't engage with the merits of to catch a predator as a primetime show, but it's more about from what you said yesterday and today, it's more about like the, yeah, the mad artist of Chris Hansen creating this and kind of losing himself in it and also what its impact, what the show's impact had on the people who participated in it, like as actors. and also the impact slash lack of impact, like justice or lack of justice that was ever brought upon finding all these pedophiles, right?

This is exactly of like what happened to their lives or what happened to any of their lives. And I think that not dealing with it also does say that it is up to you, but then how do you feel about that? I do think that a lot of people thought that that movie was going to touch a little bit more on the ramifications or, you know, whatever you feel of the show to catch a predator.

Right. But I feel like I'm also glad that they didn't try to shoehorn it in there also. Right, right. A moral lesson about the show. It sounds like that's not what this was. It sounds like it was almost more of a character study. But like a slightly it sounds like an imagined character study, at least according to Chris Hansen being like, it wasn't like this, you know. Because if you watch the show, he is way more measured.

Like, this is definitely, I feel. It's a date line, you know, it's like so, yeah. Exactly. It's so, it's so rational. It's so reined in. That's why I feel like Robert Pattinson was also enhancing the mania that was going on inside of him. Which is so, so great. Yeah, I mean, I think, I understand why Chris Hanson is like, this isn't how it happened.

But also, I, I think artistically the idea of taking this, uh, this this this cultural figure and being like let's explore what what this could be like what could be motivating this person um but yeah i mean like i said yesterday i have i think that the biggest problem with to catch a predator is that it turned predation into entertainment and media and yeah and it was salacious i mean the whole again i grew up watching 2020 and date line i loved those shows and those shows that type of true crime. I was also thinking a lot about true crime because I did watch a killer story. And it provides a really alternate, I know we're not going to get too into that today,

but it provides an alternate vision of what true crime could be. Like true crime sometimes presents itself as the pursuit of justice, but is really the pursuit of entertainment. And then a killer story is like, what if true crime was, what if two people loved true, loved true crimes so much that they literally true crime. They true crime did real. Yes.

They're a defense lawyer. They true crime did real. They true crime too close to the sun. The forensic files to criminal defense attorney pipeline. But with Dateline, it's like what is the point of every week you tell a story about a beautiful woman who's murdered in the desert? Is that, is the point there to stop structural violence against women? Not really.

It's to kind of like make this sexy thing out of this, you know, kind of exceptional murder and do it every week. And I think that if you ask what was the point of to catch a predator, I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not against vigilante justice. We all know that the criminal justice system isn't very good at doling out justice. But I also don't know that the point of to catch a predator was to like make a dent in structurally in, in church. child abuse. It was to cherry pick people who were, yes, doing very bad things and then put them on a stage for kind of like a mass execution. It was for clicks. Yeah. It was literally for it was to get viewers and I like that this, that the movie really does play with the idea where I think that Chris Hansen truly thinks or at least he's decided that he was saving people. Right. He is a hero.

Oh, that's very clear. If you watch the Jesse Waters interview with him, he very much believes. He is a year. He did years worth of heroic work like a cop. I think he thinks of himself like a cop. I am finding perps out on the street and taking the perps off the street. Right. And also he even tells a story in the movie, like talking about this, you know, this assignment

that he goes on for Dateline in India and how. no one was doing anything about these missing girls. So he goes in there and it's like it is based on something. But he truly felt he was above the law bringing justice. And I think that that's what Chris Hanson is out there complaining about because they showed that Chris Hansen that it was mostly about like getting the whale for viewership. That it was not to take down like you said systemic problems. It was not to try to help people or like try to help.

them with like mental health assistance or or any other you know there was no there was no support afterwards for people this was not something he was doing to genuinely make change he was trying to become as famous as he could totally and and you know to bring it back to thinking about a killer story it's like there's true crime and there's journalism and true and and a killer story explores like okay there's like the true crime thing where again like forensic files is my kind of go to like this is an entertaining story about a murder. And then there's journalism. And what the journalist and a killer story is doing is like, again, trying to get to, trying to really get to the truth of something. And perhaps you could say that to catch a predator was trying to get to

the proof of something. It was obviously a huge cultural phenomenon. And, and, you know, maybe the extent to which it kind of like highlighted that there are predators out there. But what I really think it did was reinforce what I actually think is kind of a, is, if not harmful, is a very limited view of what predation is because we all know that the people most likely to hurt kids aren't in an internet chat room. There are people in a kid's, you know, a circle of family friends community, right? Yes. And so it's another way, actually, to bring it back to what normal date line is. Normal date line is like, look at this beautiful woman who was killed in the desert. How random. And again, what we really know about violence against women is that that's also more

likely to be committed by husbands, boyfriends, someone that knows them, yes. And what what this type of entertainment, true crime does is make these exceptional things, the scary thing, instead of the normal things. The most common, the enemy is the enemy is right here inside. the house, the enemy is not lurking in an alleyway, right? And I think that... Just like Buffy, the villain's always mad. Isn't it? And I think that what to catch up predator did did was, I mean, listen, we grew up in

the 90s. We had every adult telling us that every time you go online, someone is going to try to kidnap you and sex exploit you. And, you know, I was scared of having long hair because of how often I was told that that's where they grabbed you from. Why do you think I loved having really short hair as a kid? Because I was like, oh, this is great. I'm fat and I've got short hair.

So it's going to be really difficult for me when they definitely try to kidnap me. Yes, I was told always look in the back seat and under the car before you get in. Always be ready. Always be prepared to be assaulted. Yeah. And we now have a little bit more of an understanding.

And now we know that that is true and that that continues on as you get older. And I think like if you think about the impact of something like Me Too, for example, which was to say, sexual violence is not exceptional. Sexual violence is actually very normal and invisible. And what Me Too is doing is kind of rendering this normalized invisible thing invisible. And I just think that what did to catch a predator do? It showed us that the thing we were all told sometimes happens, happens, sometimes happens. And I'm not downplaying that. The internet is full of dangerous perverts.

And I don't want children to talk to them and I don't want them to talk to children. I'm definitely not saying any of what happened on there is good. No, MJ is pro predator, all right? And we're not talking about the sexy one from the other movies, okay? No, no, no. Only on to catch your predator, MJ. I am like

begging us to put all the teenagers in the woods without any Wi-Fi until their frontal lobes develop. Okay. You know, take the, I do not want any of these perverts online to talk to kids. However, I don't see... You think that it kind of

kind of gives a little spice, huh? What is... You like the minefield out there. What is the world before to catch a predator and what is the world after? Did you watch it growing up? Were you, like, or was that something that was outside of things

that you were enjoying at that moment? This is around 2006. This is around when we were... I was in college. We were just about to go, whether just going to college, we're around that time period. I think I wasn't watching it.

I knew that it existed and I remember at the time being happy about it. Like I remember being like, yeah, man, show them off. I want everybody to see their faces, honestly. You know, with the algorithm with the Cornell 7. You know, it's like a lot of, now that we're talking about it, is that it's the showing of the faces that I think so many people, you know, have such issues with because this is,

but this is inherently the problem with it, where it's like, okay, they haven't gone through the justice system. There's no due process. I mean, yeah. There's no due process. I do, again, I do think that sexual predators, I don't think there's usually much wrong with shaming sexual predators, especially.

Okay. But, you know, one also thinks of times when there was huge public, you know, public mobs against stocks. Sexual predators. Yeah, that put him in the stocks. I'm thinking of the times that there was huge public, shaming public, you know, mobs against sexual predators that were alleged sexual predators that were wrong, right? Specifically, I'm thinking about the Central Park 5.

And everybody thought those guys had done it. And my friend who was the child of the lawyer who represented them, she made a film about her dad. And in the film, she asked, why would you represent them? Like, this is bad. Why are you representing them? And he said, you know, everybody who is accused of something needs somebody to represent them is just how this is like this is.

the system that we have. And it turned out that those guys were all innocent, right? And I, you know, I'm not, I'm not trying to go to bad for anybody who got caught on the Petty Predator. Looks like they were all doing real bad stuff. But I think that Chris Hanson taking the law into his own hands in his own image, that is not, that just can't be what justice is. I'm not saying the system works, because we know it doesn't. But Chris Hansen just being like, I will do it. Okay, you found 20 pedophiles in a chat room. What? Has this, is this journalism? No, it's entertainment. Has it led to any sort of policy change, structural change? Are there, look at right now with meta, is there any limits on how all these

perverts can talk to kids online? No. They're encouraging it. And so one of the things Chris Hansen said to Jesse Waters, it was so crazy as he was like, if they think I'm the enemy, what does that say about Hollywood? Basically implying like, Hollywood's the one full of pedophiles. And it's like, I mean, sure. Yeah? But. Yes, and we can improv that. You know, it's like we can yes and that. And to critique your role of playing judge, jury, an executioner is not to like endorse

pedophilia. It's to question, who are you? Why are you making this? And is it to make yourself famous? And is it to make child abuse something that is very, very marketable? Yes. Right. Yes, it is.

You know what I realize? He's also like the Bobby Flay of pedophiles. you know like you think you can do it I'll do it better oh I'm gonna come in here and I'm gonna clean it up I'm gonna be the one that like I know how to do it and I feel like he really is going into people's restaurants yes perverts homes and he's getting the perverts to admit that he can out pervert their pervert yeah yeah he's gonna make your Thai coconut curry better than you can make it despite the fact that it's your grandmother's recipe how many generations you've been working on the recipe for let Bobby Flee have a swing at it. And thank you completely for understanding what I meant with that, MJ. You knew exactly what I meant because Bobby Flay, he goes in there and he's like, oh, you'll make a clam chowder. I'll show you clam chowder.

And then, oh, he's got to throw down with them and go. God, just I hate Bobby Flee. And maybe all of my anger for Bobby Flay is just increasing the more we need to just at least tiny talk about how poorly Giata did last week on dancing with the stars. Like just we just need to at least talk about just how, wow, where she's like, a spaghetti,

huh? I'm shaped like a bird. Meatballs? Like, that was so bad. I have one thing to offer it. It's by Italian-Americanness. That's it. That's it. Is it offensive to Italians for me to say that I would assume that Italians have a more inherent sense of rhythm

than she does. Where is it? A lot there. It's a poetic people, you know, where is the, where is the poetry? It's a romance language. It's a romance language. It's just like, where is the romance? I've never seen, like, I know that I said last week that, you know, just because you're

beautiful doesn't mean you know how to dance and Giata really shows that she's just the stiffest. Like, I'm looking at the heart of the show, Guillermo. You know what I mean? You took that feedback and you went and you came back. with yacht. It's about growth, Guillermo. It's not about where you end up. It's about where you started

and then where you end up. And you know where Giata ended up in the trash where she belonged? All right? Put her in the trash with the leftover Marinar, okay? Because I don't want anymore because it hurts my belly.

I'm so happy she got sent home. I didn't want to look at her little bird frame anymore. It really goes to show that you can be on television for decades and really not have that much charisma. And again, if you've ever watched Beat Bobby Flee, you know that. I know I talk about how awkward the hosts on Dancing with the Stars are, but at least they have the excuse of it being live television. If you ever watch Bobby Flee, they have to just edit the shit out of that show to make it look like not profoundly awkward. To be

edible for a moment. Yeah. So a lot of people's lack of charisma really shining. But you know who I do really love still on Dancing with Stars is Julia Stiles? Because yeah, she fled from public life after becoming famous at such a young age. I get it, girl. I love this for you and now you feel so vulnerable and you're coming back. She's under a microscope

so that everybody can call out her every little movement and you can see how terrified she is all over her face. I felt so bad during that dance. I felt like neck down absolutely killing it. Her face showed how nervous she was the entire time. She was so, so nervous. But also can we give it up for Big Teeth Banana?

Whatever Big Teeth Banana is doing, I am here for it. What did I write down? I wrote down a couple of things. The casualness with which they referred the banana, Savannah Banana's guy who referred to with his partner, he's like, the Banana Fans have really been supporting us. Banana Nation is really getting behind us. And they just dropped Banana Nation and Banana Fans as if that was something we all know about.

And I know that the... Welcome to Banana Fans. And I just, I think I want to be part of Banana Nation. I know that you don't love the dancing baseball players, but I think I do. What do you mean? I'm, wag that butt around. Why wouldn't I be into it, MJ? What are you talking about?

Didn't we have a moment where I like, we were talking about the fun baseball players and you were like, that's a little too fun for me. I don't like it. Am I misremembering? And then I watched them, MJ. Have you watched the Savannah bananas? Yeah. Oh, those butts are.

are dusting up over every pitcher pile they can see. And while I don't care about the game per se, I'm more there for the stretch part of it in the innings stretch. And I would say to them, whatever you're doing out there, out there in the outfield, well, I just hope that I'm the fly ball. You're catching you mid. Yeah. Do the glasses work for things like that?

or do you think that that means I'm being more aggressive? Do you think the sunglasses are scaring people off? Do you think actually I feel like these sunglasses are exactly the kind of sunglasses that big teeth banana would wear? Yes, I agree with that. They're baseball men's sunglasses. Yeah, yeah, and his teeth are distracting.

They're veneers, right? Oh, he has openly said that they are veneers. I don't want to just openly judge again. veneers because I think that for some people, it's you, you got to have them. You know, sometimes you got to get rid of them. You got to remake it, okay? You got to get in there, rip them out.

It's nice to know that you could always have teeth. Yeah. Yes, and have good old chompers on there. But I do know that you can be like, torque it up a little bit bigger. And I do think that like, if I were to get veneer, like I would want to come in like I, you know, was putting in denters.

because if you're going to get them, go big. Go big. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Miley, I feel like make your teeth front and center, right? I guess I just always think of that tweet that was a picture of Kirsten Dunstan Dunstan Jesse Plemons that said, I can't emphasize enough how nice it is to see people who have real teeth. And yeah, I just don't want, I just don't want your perfect teeth. I know.

They were saying a lot of that, though, also with. Lily Rose Depp because Lily Rose Depp was in Osfaratu, remember? And everyone's just like, iPhone face, iPhone face, which I didn't really feel from her. In fact, I feel the opposite. And now in all of the trailers were Vervolf, which is coming out on Christmas. Oh, we got the new Eggers. And it's coming out on Christmas. Yon Verviervolf is coming.

And they made Lily Rose Depp look medieval as fuck. Oh, did they? And they were just like, they're like, see, and oh, we take your iPhone face and we raise it a Lily Rose Depp. And I mean, I think that is more just that she has no makeup on and that she was given a hairlet. But there's just, there's, I feel like she's made for Van Volf. Wow. They're like, Will, Hollywood loves nothing more than to do something very brave by taking a very beautiful woman and making her just ever so slightly ugly. Yes, and you know what's also very brave, taking a moment for this ad.

Hashtag very brave. Thank you. Thank you. Give it up for our braveness. We here at page 7 are brave enough to be sponsored. And we thank you. But also, are we brave enough to talk about Elizabeth Holmes? Because I'd really like to talk about, man, how excited I already,

I think that I'm probably going to end up seeing you can see everything twice, which is the three-hour long Elizabeth Holmes documentary that Nathan Fielder is making with, what's it, Lance Oppenheim. Every part of my mouth wants to call him Oppenheimer, but he's Oppenheim. You got to take that right off that time, okay? And so right, he's the same guy who made Primetime. So I'm happy to hear that Primetime that you liked it so much, that you liked it so much more than Chris Hansen because I am so excited for the Nathan Fielder, Elizabeth Homestock.

Like I said, I had issues with it, and I do understand, like, again, not even getting into any of the discourse around it. But final stance, I do feel that they were able to explore with those ideas by not having to say any of it. But I think it could have struck stronger if they had. Yeah, again, you know, what I now just find myself repeating over and over is like, as long as it's something kind of, interesting and different, you know, like what if we just tried to do something interesting and different, which is why I'm mad that the Generation Music Video Storm didn't win any BMA awards, but that's not what we're talking about right now. No, we're talking about you can see everything because at least they are making this

three-hour documentary. I can't wait to see it. I'm so excited. Now, how do you feel about Elizabeth Holmes? What if I was like, pro? Oh, is it a complicated question? Or if you were like, I love her. Let's get her out of there. Yeah, I mean, it's a no from me, dog. You know, I think she really, I think that, I mean, obviously the documentary about her was so perfect because it illuminated how dumb all of these wealthy, you know, Silicon Valley people are that they just want a very simple, quick fix for everything and they're not even going to think for 20 seconds.

Especially from a woman that talks like these. Yeah, like a thin, block. woman who says she can cure hundreds of illnesses with one drop of blood. Why think about it for more than 20 seconds? Why talk to a single doctor? Let's just give her all our money. Give her all our money. Because she's blonde. What is she lying to us? She wouldn't be able to. And I didn't know that much about Elizabeth Holmes before all of this. And now I've seen, and like I watched like a good solid dock on her to try to get because I knew of Theranos

but I to be real with you I didn't know that it was giving a drop of blood to do all like I didn't know quite exactly what was going on I just knew that it was a scam and I knew that it was a scam that had a lot of money wrapped up in it right but you're

right MJ when you first hear about it you're just like even I know that's stupid that's great I mean the original that's stupid the original Elizabeth Holmes documentary is the inventor Out for Blood in Silicon Valley, which was a 2019 HBO release by Alex Gibney, which is very good and just, again, shows the kind of like Harold Hill, you know,

swindlerness of it all for her to just come in and be like, I'm speaking the language of Silicon Valley and I've got a big, great idea. And everyone is just like, yes, yes, why look into it? And that is really good. And then also, what is the, there was a series about her, right, that was the dropout with Amanda Safreed, which is also fun.

But the 2019 documentary is how I learned about her. Yes. And it does a very good job of just like, like obviously the Nathan Fielder documentary is going to be a Nathan Fielder retelling of the aftermath. But the 2019 doc, if you're not familiar, will explain it all. But yeah, she's, he lives with her for like the final like two months or something before she gets put away. Yeah. And shooting with her all the time, like living with her, shooting with her all the time. And people keep saying it is like a documentary you've never seen before.

And I, with everything that Nathan Fielder has brought to us, I believe that. It's perfect, too, because it's like, you know, I feel like somebody like Elizabeth Holmes really, every so often you get somebody who really tests the limits of your prison abolitionism. And, you know, so part of me, of course, is like, this is really sad. She's, she has a baby. She's going to prison. But also that woman lied to the extent to which she harmed so many thousands of people just to enrich herself. If justice could work for anybody, it should be for her. Right.

And so, but what's so great about Nathan Fielder doing it is it's like, oh, you're going to get to know this lady. And you're going to walk away from this. film really having a glimpse into this person, which is so interesting. Or at least a point in time of this person's life. Totally. But fascinating. What you have a documentary like the Alex Gibney 2019 one that basically shows the the lie and shows the fallout.

And then I think sometimes then those figures kind of disappear and you can, especially if they're caught, then you can kind of conveniently be like, okay, thank God. Don't have to think about it. what Nathan Fielder is going to do is going to be like, what if you kept thinking about it? What if you thought about what it means for this person who is horrible to be getting ready for, you know, to lose her freedom and with a baby and what's all this going to be like? It's just, it's going to be incredible. And I'm not even saying like, oh, good, humanize her.

I don't think that, I don't think that she needs to be humanized. But what Nathan Fielder is going to do is just like make her, I don't know. I don't think Nathan Fielder brings human. anybody. I'm pretty sure. I don't think that that's what he's known for, like, disarming people. You know what I mean? Right. It's not, it's like whatever, how could a documentary do the opposite of humanizing someone yet also still, like, show them and their vulnerability? Like, even like the, but also in their absolute psychopathy. Like that 30 second clip of her talking, everyone's like, I'm still scared. Like, she has like such a, such a terrifying. The new, the new trait of,

In the end, she says something like, I've never let anyone see me cry before. And then she just open-eyed, just looks at him, and then slowly, robotically, tears up. And then the tears, as it's like, you're watching a robot that learned how to cry, cry on command in front of somebody. Yeah.

It's, I can't wait to watch this doc. It's fascinating. It's perfect. It's like, because we don't need to necessarily humanize a villain like this. But Nathan Fielder's like, well, what if we just kept looking at him and see what they do? See what they do in this fishbowl. Why about we just see what happens? And that's why I love Nathan Fielder so much where it's like, what if I did a television show where I got my pilots license, you know, like for a bit?

What if I? And it's like those kind, you know, you were talking about earlier, even and Amber was saying yesterday with Buzzkill of like we just want to see. different things, which I think is very funny that Amber was saying that about Buzzkill, because looking at it, it did just look like a sorority girl slasher movie. And I don't mean to make fun of Amber. Try something new, Jackie. I did think it was funny. And I will make fun of her in person. Don't worry. Because also, if you're listening to this before Friday, come hang out on Jackin. We are having Amber over on Jackin. And we're having a new. metal night.

Oh God. Come hang out on this week's episode of Jack and Twitch. dot TV slash Holdenaders Ho. It's going to get, uh-huh. I hope. But also, um, I didn't mean to jump away earlier from dancing with the stars because

we didn't talk about what we were made for. We have to at least say you're right about Tatiana Ali's journey. I love her. I love her. Because everybody. has told her that she was wrong for the camera since the beginning of time. I know. I was going to say that she and Julia Stiles should have like a support group. And I think that they could find a lot of common ground. But of course, Tatiana Ali has the unique experience of having been a black girl.

A sister of Alfonso. Oh, yeah, yeah. And a sister of Alfonso-Riber, not entirely unique experience because there weren't there some other siblings in there. Oh, yeah. But different Hillary. Hillary, right. But for her being a black girl in the 90, these on television and she just talks about how relentlessly she was told that she wasn't good enough, she wasn't pretty enough, she wasn't enough. And so she, Julia Stiles is having

her own self-esteem journey from becoming very famous you know in a very young age and then being very, she said she was kind of like excited and terrified of it and so she fled and Tatiana Ali is having an experience of you know she's she has

young kids and she's coming back to herself and her Oh, she's getting her pink back. Yeah. Oh, God, do not say getting her pink back. She's getting her pink back. Oh, Jen, couldn't you have thought about how that sounds? Yeah, she's getting her pink bag by getting pregnant again, MJ.

How else do you get your pink back? Is that when the men grow in the belly again? The saddest part is that I, it's a nice idea what Jen is saying that, like, after, you know, you have to come back and find yourself. It's just that, unfortunately, getting your pink back, it's just too evocative for me of, like, the phrase two with the pink one in the stink. I don't know. Is that just me? It's just, I'm sorry. You're thinking of the flush of a vulva? I don't know. I just get I can't. I can't with the phrase getting your pink back. Maybe I'm the pervert. Put me on to

catch a predator and publicly. Shame me. Who's the pervert now? Perv? I'm sorry Clay Clem Pervert. I didn't realize there was a pervert edition. I'm sorry. I'm a pervert. I'm a pervert on the internet. God. I'm somebody better to catch an MJ. No, I'm gone. I did see that clip from Jen Affleck and I and I politely moved on and I did not continue to engage. Getting her back. Okay.

I would rather invoke. And maybe it's the flush of her vagina, but I don't think it is. It's not certainly not coming from Zach Affleck. I would rather invoke Billy Eilish as we have done ever since that song came out and any of us feels any ounce of self-doubt. We start to sing what was I made for. And I was so thrilled. to see Tatiana Ali have a big comeback this past week. I love her and I love her relationship with Alfonso.

Speaking of I love her and I feel like I've been trying to talk about her for weeks and I haven't been able to. And if I don't talk about how much I love Lily Reinhart, I'm going to explode. I love her. I love her. I love her. My algorithm is all the Cornell 7 and just in terms. interviews with Lily Reinhart. That's all my algorithm is right now. And dances with,

and Julia Stiles dancing. That's it. Yeah, yeah. I've got a lot of Cornell 7 and a lot of dancing with the stars. And it's jarring. That's why pepper some Lily Reinhart in there. If you could just get the eye to linger on all of her different interviews that she's currently doing for the love hypothesis, which has just dropped. And now for my romanticcy heads out there, This is big for us, okay? It's an Allie Hazelwood. Now, my problem is that, it's not my problem, but I have not read Love Hypothesis, again, because there are human beings inside of it.

Now, I have read Allie Hazelwood's Bride, and I really loved that. But that, again, is more in the world of Monsterdom. Okay, I've run all about this, Jackie, and I feel like the lady of doing the math and the math meme, because I'm like, I know that it was a story about, Kylo Ren and Ray, and it's cool because the actor in it is married to Daisy Ridley, who plays the real-life Ray. But then I'm looking at the synopsis of this movie, and they're not talking about Kylo Red and Ray.

And I'm like, what happened to the Kylo Ren and Ray inspiration? They just took that idea and put it onto two regular people. It was an inspiration, MJ. Yeah, it's not about them. You know, that's not, like, fan fiction is inspired by shit. Okay, all right. You know, so this is inspired. And also a lot of Ali Hazelwood's writing is involved.

in the STEM world. So she also involved the world of STEM into it. And everybody has been very excited about this drop. Now, of course, I have heard from my Romantic C readers out there that there are some differences. There are differences between the book and the movie. Oh, people, you know, book lovers love when that happens. And we understand. But I want to bring up the fact that I love Lily Reinhart and Interested.

reviews. I recently watched Forbidden Fruits and I loved her in Forbidden Fruits as like essentially like a mean girl's the craft kind of mash up and she was like the head bitch in charge. So she was essentially like the Cheryl in Forbidden Fruits and she killed it. And I'm excited to watch The Love Hypothesis because you're right, MJ. So that's part of the reason why so much of the community was so excited about this. drop because it was originally based on a fan fiction about Kylo Wren and Ray. Right. And the man that plays the lead man in the movie is married to the woman that played Ray in the movie. So everyone was just like, but then on top of it, Lily Reinhart has been on this PR circuit that almost nobody is talking about. I know. She's unleashed. staring at because every single moment, every premiere, every interview, everything that she did,

what she was wearing was an homage to other rom-com looks. And there were, like, her stylist and she have been working tirelessly to be inspired by these rom-com looks from all of our upbringing. And it's just making me, like, fritz out in my brain because I love Lily Reinhardt so much. And then on top of it, MJ, Lily Reinhart has been talking in interviews because she says that she's got a lesbian vampire novella that she's obsessed with that she's been trying to get made. And she says everybody's scared of it. And I'm out here to say, I'm not scared of it, Lily Reinhart. And we're here to support you, okay?

We want more monster fucking stories out there. And we want more based on novellas. And I love that she's out there calling everybody out and being like, you're all scared. You're scared of lesbian vampires, aren't you? And they are, MJ. So many things to say about Lily Reinhardt. The rom-com homage is really cool. My favorite of which, of course, was her doing Britney Murphy and Uptown Girls

because the uncanny resemblance that she bears to Brittany Murphy is really worth highlighting. and yes, the lesbian vampire stuff is cool. But my favorite part of her media blitz is that, of course, these poor Riverdale actors now, years later, are unleashed and everyone is asking them what they think about Riverdale. What they think about Riverdale. It's so funny. It's so funny.

The way they're like, I remember, like, what was that? Was that when there was the time jump or was that the second time jump? Like the way that they talk about it? being so frustrated with it. Her ranking the seasons and she goes, well, obviously season one, that was the good one. And then she looks like, I should not have said that. I just not have said that.

The one good one. And I also think that season one was the good one. But I know everyone says season three, gargoyles. And Jay, I will make you watch Riverdale again. Don't make me. We'll all watch Riverdale again. I know. Because I can make us at any time, okay?

But it's very... That's not true. this is a partnership. I'm not going to make you watch Riverdale again. But I did love, in one of the interviews, too, Lily Reinhart was talking about someone asked her, what is a green flag for you no matter what?

And she was like, you know what's a green flag for me is somebody that enters a room and whenever they leave that room, everybody around them was just like, man, that person's so nice. God, what a great person that is. And she's like, you know, know who is that to a T?

KJ. She's like, KJ is, she's like, it's crazy. You watch him, she's like, he knew everybody's names on set. He knew every crew member's name. He would talk to everybody. Every time apparently he leaves a room, everybody's like, God, he's such a nice guy. What great guy he is.

And that, he's my Mr. Fantasy, baby. He's my Mr. Fantasy. But is he going to be coming back? for Archie I know we've got this Archie Afterlife drop which I am being which is Roberto Aguirre Sicasa which is. Yes it is

it's Roberto Aguirre Sigasa. That's important but I'm reading these press materials about it and they're not, the cast is not announced yet. Is that what we're working with? That is true. That is what we're working with and I don't think it's going to be the same cast

but it is going to be it's Afterlife with Archie. it's going to be a mashup with Sabrina. And they were already obviously... In the same world. It's, well, they're neighbor worlds. Because what is it? It's Riverdale.

And then I think it's Greendale, I believe, is the Sabrina world. Right. I should remember, I watched the damn show, but I can't remember. But this is going to be a crossover, so I don't know if it's going to, like, I think it would be really funny if they tried to, like, bend these. mid-30-somethings into high school roles again. I mean, I would watch it happen. That's why I'm looking. I'm like, listen, all these Riverdale cast members have been out here in the press.

They're old now. They're old and they really are embarrassed by the many years they spent on Riverdale and they're really trying to do other things. And I saw this, that it's Roberto Aguirreira Sikasa, that's going to be that Riverdale and after a zombie apocalypse. And the comic books already exist, which is also a Roberto Giroz. Gary Sikasa. So lots of green flags here, but I was like

there's no way they're going to bring back these this group of humiliated actors who have now, in part, moved on to bigger and better things. What if they bring in Dillon Sprouse? Now that he's a father, congratulations. Barbara had the baby. But what if they brought in Dillon Spouse,

but he just kept talking about hops and beer and we're like, not the, oh, go smoke a cigarette. Yeah, the good one. I mean, it'll be fine. And the Stakes are lower, but what I fear is that we'll be like, State by the Bell, the New Class. And it's like the same set, but different people. And you're like, no, no, no. And speaking of which, RIPP, RIPP, DRAPS for you.

Principal Belvedere? Principal Belding. Belding. I think that. Not like Mr. Belvedere, which again, creepy and premise. And did we trust Mr. Belvedere? I'd fucking did it. Mr. Belding, what would I say he's trustworthy.

He really blurred lines of what was appropriate with the students, but that was going to happen. Like in what, like a grabby way, but just like, turtle, turtle. No, not in a grabby way. That's what he's doing, Elisa? No, he's just like at their house, you know, or they're in his office all the time. It's like, oh, but so is Mr. Feeney and he was on Dancing with the Stars. I know. I know.

I know, and everybody loves Mr. Feeney, so I'm not going to hold it again. Mr. Belding walked so that Mr. Feeney could be wheeled out. onto the stage of dancing with the style. I'm proud of you. My understanding for poor Dennis Askins is that I just think it was, once again, hard to recover from Saved by the Bell. And I don't think he was capable to. Oh, so he was just, it was all 30 years that he's just been lamenting so hard

that he lamented himself into a finely aged grave. I mean, have you heard of him or thought about him since? 1995? No, but you know, maybe he made enough money. You know, that was back when syndication, you know, that was getting the big bucks. So that's really something that you could live off of forever. Yeah, I hope so. I mean, yeah, he had a couple of, he was on Fallon with a couple of the other, same by the bell people.

He had brief cameos and a couple of other things. But yeah, and, you know, again, maybe it's a Julia-style situation where he just wanted to step back and be fine. I hope so. I hope that he had a very nice life. Sorry, speaking of Depangong, dancing with the stars, how do you feel about Taylor Hansen? I feel like I want to be his number one champion,

but you know I'm like up, like I'm up there with the Ezra's and the Guillermo's, but really fast. How do we feel? I feel like he's a little tin man. He's given tin man. Right? Like a little bit?

I did not think so. I was impressed with Taylor at the time. I thought he was like, I am sexy. See, I have so many kids. I am so tired to be sexy. Oh, many kids. I imagine he's so tired to be sexy.

And I know that I shouldn't keep comparing him to James Vanderbeek in my head. I know they're not the same. But I just keep looking at their beautiful families. And then I'm like, oh, from the 90s. And then I'm like, but James Vanderbik is dead. He's dead, MJ. It's not James Vanderbeek coming back from the grave, okay? I have a good friend who, um,

like was and remains like an active fan, like a really active fan of Hansen and their new music. And I actually think it's still putting out music. Yeah. And I actually think it's really fun to hear from about, from this friend about it. And so there is, because of, because of my good friend, I'm reading for, uh, for Taylor Hanson just because I'm like, good for you, buddy. Everybody was real mean to you for having long hair in the mid 90s. And you are right. You know, that was needless. And, you know, you guys can sing. So, but, but that said, listen, I know nothing else about them. So if they're weirdos, don't come for me. Okay. But I, but I guess. Let us know. Are they weirdos? I don't think that they are. And I think that it is another thing like you were just saying where I haven't, I haven't thought about Hanson in 20 years, 20 plus years. I don't think.

So I didn't even realize they were still putting it. We talk about pop culture and we don't bring up. And we talk about millennial pop culture and we don't bring up Hanson. Well, yeah, I don't know what their listenership is like. but I think that they're out there doing it though. Yeah, they're out there doing it. And they, I mean, this is a thing, this is one of those things where when you look back on something from your childhood and you're like, oh, everyone was so needlessly bitchy about

that. It's like, Hansa, they were really good singers and everyone was just like, fuck those boys with long hair, you know? And so I kind of feel, again, like, neutral to positive about them because I'm like, they were fine singers and I think it's sweet that they're brothers and they sing together. And I know nothing more than that. And I feel fine about it. I feel positively about it.

The Hanson Tour right now, they're going to Prior Lake, Minnesota. They're going to Northfield. They're going to Carterville. Yeah. They're going to Gary Indiana. It's a Midwestern Tour. They're going to Coutousa. Yeah.

I think that they have a... I've never heard of most of these places. But listen, like for real, like in earnest. But they're out there doing it. They're out there doing it. And it's like I... But this is, I'm saying that I'm not even trying to make fun of them. It's like, that's like, that's for the first.

fucking love of the game right there. Totally. That is straight up like, it's like, let's do one more bop of a time. Totally. I'm, fuck, yeah, you do you, boy. And especially they have to wait to come back till after, you know, they don't know how long. How long Taylor's going to be on there. Yes, yes, Taylor. Yeah, I do think it's nice that they're still in it and they're in it for the love of the game. They just love to make music and sing together. And yeah, I mean, what, what is,

Mbopping with brothers, man. I mean, I work with my brother. I get it. Yeah. And what is better than this fractured, a lot of bad things about this fractured media landscape. But one good thing is that, like, fandoms can really sustain.

Maybe that was true before, but fandoms can really sustain people who are like, listen, I'm not trying to be famous Mbop Hanson again, but we want to do shows and sing together. And, you know, we here at page seven love to do shows for our beloved, Certainly do. Beloved people who love us. And hopefully we'll be back out there, especially, oh my God, once we get cursed by glee,

I think we're going to have to get back out there. So we're going to undo what we're about to do. I can do more amateur dancing on stage than I even did at our last live show. Oh, we're going to up that dancing 100%. Now that we're dancing with the stars head people. Yeah. I mean, you can't take it away from us. Yeah.

But, you know, I did want to at least bring up before. getting out of here. I didn't get a chance to see Practical Magic 2 yet, but I did get my husband to watch Practical Magic for the first time, and I hadn't seen it in a long time, and I was worried whether or not was going to hold up. I will say, for the magic

that I think he saw pour through me as we watched the movie, I think that was magic in and of itself, but I did want to share that right afterwards, Jeff looked at me and said, I get it. It's Robocop for girls. And I

Oh. Okay. And he's like because everyone, you know, all boys, you wanted to be Robocop. You wanted to be in Robocop. You wanted to be like everything about Robocop. And he's like, and I watched you feel that. He's like how when the second Midnight Margaritas started. He's like, how often have you done Midnight Margaritas? I was like, oh my God, more times than you could ever fucking cat. Like he could see how he's like that for y'all, like anyone that identified. as a young woman would be, and if you liked magic and wanted to be magic, that watching this movie makes you be like, I am them, we are it and I am she. And I wanted it so desperately. Yeah. So it made him like the movie through my eyes. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I made Gideon watch it last year and both of us were like, that was nice. But it's just not especially either of our powerful women's magic is something I admire deeply, but it's not something that really animates me. It doesn't animate you, and that's okay.

That everything has to be for everybody. No, that's what the music man is for, and that's why you, and then, oh, once you get, this Dandia dancing, I tell you, you can't get them to stop. But you can get them to stop the show because this is where we get off. It's our phone. Oh, oh, what is this prime time? Come on.

What am I the little boy from Jerry McGuire? He's grown up, everybody, and his dick is out of his pants. Thank you all for joining us on this episode of Second Helpings. I sure'm all full up, and I'm so happy that you guys were alongside us to hum, hum, and all down together. And also, weigh in, sunglasses, yay or nay. So cool and relevant, or something else? Or very yucky and old.

Those are your choices. I mean, listen, at this point, everybody in my life has surrendered to the clip-on sunglasses that you put over your regular glasses. And I spent my whole childhood being humiliated to be seen with my parents for their clip-on sunglasses. And now I'm like, where do I get those? You know, so. I'm sorry, some of us big kids are getting transition lenses. Oh, yes. I know.

I used to be like, I've been thinking about it. Transition lenses. And now it's like one pair of glasses for the light and the dark. For the light and the dark. Terrific. We can't do it. Although everybody says they're convenient. We got to get out of here.

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