Page 7 - Second Helpings - I Think That's Nice

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

On this week's second helpings we got a newly hooded MJ back 'cause Gideon is just fiiiiine but was trapped in the ER hallway during Page Nerd of Mouth (for 62/64hrs total) but is now safely back home after a much more stressful version of "The Pitt". Chelsea Handler revealed her big 'ole ICK with Bobby Flay, Robert Pattison is gonna be play Chris Hanson in an A24 film about "To Catch A Predator", MJ says get off dat fence when it comes to "The Comeback", Jackie is not gonna spoil the movie, but she's recommendin' the upsettin' movie "The Coffee Table". MJ dove into the many true crime shows that have been put out regardin' the girl who drove her car into a wall to kill her bf and friend, Jackie's gettin' the Mothman Jellycat! MJ's here to let us all know Jackie's a trend setter, Travis Kelce chugged a beer at the basketball game like the frat boy he is in his Canadian Tuxedo and Timothee Chalamet is also always there, Spencer Pratt is STILL running for office, "Love Island" starts next week, Jackie started watchin' "Basket Case" for the first time, and SO MUCH MORE!!! Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Did I almost start with Dr. TV? MJ, Jackie. Yes, I, it's not that one. Hasn't been for years. It's because we didn't get to sing the Wisterialaniac song this week. You want to sing it right now? I feel like then that's just going to get everybody all keyed up for us not talking about desperate housewives. Blue balls for desperate housewives, yeah.

We don't want to do that to everybody because if you guys are noticing, MJ is back. I'm back, MJ. Back attack. Yes, and you're hooded. I am a hooded. And yes, it continues to sound like a cult ritual. Everybody I've told this week that I'm going to a hooding ceremony, everyone looks so scared. What? What is that? Like you're a mason, although that would be fine. It depends. I've spent a lot of time at the Dubuque, Iowa Masonic Temple. And I don't think it's a cult per se, but I would say it's cult-ish. I only know them because of like going to Mason's halls for like different events when people rent them out.

That's about all I know about the Masons. It begins and ends there. I'm sure I've talked about this on the show, but my high school chamber choir used to host an annual Christmas event at the Dubuque, Iowa Masonic Temple, called the Madrigal Dinner in which the chamber choir dressed up in medieval outfits and saying medieval. It's very scary. It actually sounds rock and roll, but I'm pretty sure this wasn't done in like a hell Satan kind of way. There was no hailing Satan. But there was a lot of like, it's essentially like a, you know, it's a medieval times cosplay with music, with choir, a cappella choir music. I mean, I love everything that you're saying.

Taking place in a Masonic temple and I was the jester because I can't sing. So I was the jester. And I juggled. MJ. Oh, wow, always the jester. So it started there. This is where the trauma began. Should we start unpacking more of this?

Because they wouldn't even let me sing. I had to be the jester. By this point I had come to terms. Me and my brother had both come to terms with the fact that we couldn't sing. And he, in fact, my brother created the gesture role because he was like, I want to be part of this event where we all get to hang out at the Masonic Temple. What if I teach myself to juggle and become the jester? And then I was like, I was like, I was like, you know. like pass your gestures hat to me.

And it was a whole deal. We had dinner and we sang and sang and sang and saying. And I juggled and juggled all at the Masonic temple. And we would... Wow, and we juggled and we sang and we cried. And then we died together all holding each other while I'm juggling and juggling, watching them all atrophy at the table. And that's why my favorite Christmas carols to this day are still like 12th century

medieval ones. Makes sense. And not just because you want to go back to simpler times. No. No, not because I'm pretty sure those aren't times for us, MJ, just to throw that out there. Yeah, no, no. But I'm just saying, you know, sometimes the cults get it, get it right. And a Masonic temple is... Sometimes the cults get it right. Yes. Lean into sometimes the cults are right. And we go, we yes and them.

And apparently the hooding ceremony, I learned this at my hooding ceremony. It used to be an in the 12th century. It used to be an actual hood that I think was meant to symbolize like, now I can focus on my studies. Good. Never look at anything else again. Yeah. And now it's not a hood.

It's just a little, it's just a special little scarf that they put on you. But you get to keep the scarf. Like I feel like, because when I had my college graduation, you just rented everything and then you had to send it back. You did. Yeah, you just, you did rent the gown and the special little hat and everything. No, I think I keep the scar. I think that the idea is, you know, I've never...

You wear it every day? I've never been an academic, but I've been, I went to college and my parents worked at colleges. And so I think that the idea is that you keep your special little robes. And then every time there's a graduation, if you're a PhD or a master or whatever you put on your special. Yeah. It's like your your special little outfit and you put it on every time, I think. But what if you just wore it on Tuesday? stays instead. Like, what if that, you're just like, this is my special Tuesday outfit now.

And you put on your, also, I got to keep my cords. I was about to call them my cords. Do you have the cords in college and like with all your different clubs or whatever? I don't have any cords, but I did order a special little extra thing called a stole, which that's like the people can get different stoles, like their identity, like, like Pan-African soul. I just feel like they could be making these words more fun. Like, I feel like it's like a store. It's like, all of this sounds so boring, but then I see you, and you're like, the drip is immaculate. You know what I mean? It's like, that's, can we call it the drip slit?

You know, it's like, I don't want to be an academic, but wearing the outfit, I was like, this is cool, you know, and then I'm like, maybe I do want to be an academic. And I'm like, no, I actually never want to write a paper again, but I like the outfit. Maybe we just need more special outfits, you know. I feel like you're not supposed to get into it for the clothes. I think your doctorate, you don't go after it just for. I think that's right. The drip, I'm pretty sure.

You don't pay all that money for it. Yeah, and I'll do all the work. But maybe the drip brings you in and then, you know, your love of the game makes you stay. But my love of the game is I'm not, I don't plan to get another degree. But I did it. And thank you. But you can counsel me any time. Do you want me to start?

I mean, I do come to you with my problems, MJ. So really, I've been preparing you for this moment for 15 years. Yes. Yes. I mean, yeah, now I am an expert in, like, talking to middle schoolers about what's going on. And that's a fun, it's fun. Somebody's got to do it, you know, and I want it to be me. You need to be teaching us more of their lingo, MJ.

Yeah. Now you're not going to be around them as much anymore. Well, it's as if the thing about counseling middle schoolers is it's as if you are, let's, I've compared it to, like, being. in a musical that you don't know you're in? Like at one point I was like with a group of three kids and they were talking about stuff and then all three of just all at once in unison just yelled low taper fade.

And I literally was like, are what happened? Can we stop the session? Are we in a musical? What does that mean? And they're like, it's a low taper fade. And I'm like, that's not helping. I need you to explain it.

And they're like, it's a haircut. I'm like, I understand it's a haircut, but why are you saying it this way? Why are you saying it in unison? And I'm like, can you name a kid at school who has a low taper fade so I can picture what you're talking about. And, you know, I'm looking at a low taper fade. Now I'm getting a low taper fade.

I get it. But that's the thing. It's like, it's one thing to understand the haircut, but it's another thing to understand the meme. And that's the problem. I've asked, all year I've been asking the middle schoolers to explain things to me, you know, explain it to me like I'm a child and they love it because they're like, yeah, okay, sit down, old lady.

I'm an expert at this. But it's, the world goes too fast for us at the, point. I love young people trying to explain it to old people, too. So it was a meme. And there was this person that was just like, it started out with Eric Doa singing, imagine if Ninja got a low taper fade, which I think led to ninja genuinely getting the low taper fade. After that, the internet started inserting low taper and fade into every meme, and now it's low taper fade. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. And that's it. And we're in a kind of, hashtag pretty short hair. Hashtag for the shorter.

I do wish I was an academic because I think that we're in a kind of interesting philosophical post-meaning moment where if you ask a middle schooler what... You mean because there's no meaning and no hope? Is that what you're saying? If you ask them what the language they're using means, they'll tell you it doesn't mean anything. And I do feel like that's an academic intrigue. What do you mean? It doesn't mean anything. It comes from somewhere.

We don't know. So it is, it's fascinating. But it is like learning another language. and I love it and I'm here for it. So I am trying to bring the youth slingo to you guys, but it's moving constantly and they don't even, they can't explain it. So how could I, you know?

Yo, I think that you would look fire with a low taper fade. Well, that's the thing. I'm like, I think I've, I might have asked for a low taper fade at the haircut place. Yeah, I think that this is what you're getting. I forgot about this. This is how you know. I was like, they're trying to explain what the low taper fade was to me.

And I was like, is it the broccoli head, which is what Holden called? calls it. And I was, I don't know if anybody else calls it the broccoli head. And they were like, no, no, it's not the broccoli head. So that makes me think that they at least knew what I meant. But also, upon Google imaging, low-cap-or-fade, I think it is the broccoli head. Yeah, it does. Don't you think? Yeah, it looks a lot. I think it looks a lot like it. Maybe it's not as poofy. It's not as Brock on top. I think, yeah, the Brock on top is its own thing. But I was like, I'm going to bring a slaying that I think my 42-year-old friend might have

invented himself to the table. And I'm going to ask you if you think it's a Brockleyley's head haircut. And they understood. They were like, it's not a broccoli head haircut. But broccoli hair is like, that's not, Holden didn't make that up. He didn't invent that. No, no, no. That is, that is an internet. That is, you know, a way in which you can describe. I associate it with, I associate it with Holden because he, you know, who gets himself all wound up. He says it. You know what I mean? I just feel like it's the way his mouth says it. The way his mouth says words. Man, MJ, you missed quite a nerd of mouth den on page. Yeah, how was page nerd of mouth?

Tell me about it. Page nerd of mouth. I tried out to be angry Jake and I tapped out. I just couldn't do it. I was like, I don't think that this is, you know, they definitely, which is, you know, it's good. It's good, MJ, to remind yourself that sometimes people get together and, you know, they bring up stuff that, like, even though I work in media, I didn't know what the hell they were talking about. And, you know, it was just, it was good to be, to feel like, honestly, I felt like I was hanging out with two teenage boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, what's funny is that if my husband hadn't been in the ER hallway, he would have loved to be part of that conversation. Put Gideon in there as the third. Yes. He would, he's thrilled. Whenever he gets to talk to Holden or Mike, hours can go by. They share a language again, you know, but he was in an ER hallway for, I think, a proxie. Exximately 62, 64 hours. Oh, my God. Just laying in a hallway. Like, I love that he had an eye mask on as if that was doing anything. Like, did that do anything? Did he just not sleep for three days? I brought him the eye mask because he was like, can you find anything that could help shield the constant stimuli? And we had an eye mask. And so I was like, all right, I'm going to bring you the eye mask. You know, I think I think that he's probably gotten 20. minutes of sleep in a couple of like episodic intervals over the past.

Yeah, that's all you need. I hear when you're in a lot of pain. I hear that that's all you. You just need 20 minutes, a top or off. And when I say ER hallway, I'm not exaggerating. And, you know, each bed has a number. And he didn't even have a number because he wasn't in an area. He like didn't have an area.

He was in, he was like, he kept joking to all the doctors. He was like, I call myself 35 and a half. half because he was in between 35 and 36. But the doctors kept not being able to find him because he didn't have an area. He just had a hallway. And then they would come and they'd be like, you're still here. Why are you still here? It's been days.

And he'd be like, I don't know. You're the one who works here. So it was just like the pit. Just like the pit. Thank you everyone. Well, everybody knows your name. Bam, ba, yeah. And everyone was just like, Gideon when he came into the ER.

Yeah, I should have made, Jackie texted me how many Baby Jane Doe references have you made Wellst in the ER? And I said, oh my God, that's how you know I'm stressed out. I've made none. Nine. So, yeah, I really should have just been sitting there, baby Jane Doe. But thank you, everybody, for your kind well wishes. He is home.

And also to everybody who messaged me, it's just like the pit because you're right, but it's less attractive. Less fun and less attractive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm imagining more destabilizing than watching the pit. I think the thing about the pit is that they show doctors caring for people. And I think that was not the experience of my husband in the hallway for 64 hours. He got, I think he got approximately one doctor visit every 24 hours.

And I understand that they... We know from the pit it's not the doctor's fault. Not the doctor's fault. And like many things, you. You know, sometimes people will say, well, you can't just throw money at a problem. And I'm sitting here in the hallway and I'm like, you know what would solve this? Money. Money.

Lots of money. Money. I think more money might solve this. And then I know the pit has taught us. It's all about the profit structure of the hospitals. What about the bureaucracy? It's a systemic problem. So I never, ever want to express any anger towards health care workers.

Doctors are amazing. Nurses are amazing. Nurse tax. All of everything. You're all doing the law. Lord's work. But I'm just like sitting here being like, I think that this problem could be solved with more hospital. I think we need more doctors, more nurses, more hospital, more money. Has anyone tried this? There's got to be a better way. Yeah, but you know, somehow, they're just not being

enticed to go into it. I don't know why. Why? Because you have no support and you have no funding and why do you want to go into this field? And every so often, you know, you will. You will get a nurse that's like, at one point there was somebody trying to make their way to the bathroom, very clearly a fall risk. And, uh, stumbling to the bathroom, and a nurse just walks by and goes, you're going to fall, but it keeps walking. And you know, I'm sure they were on their way to something else, but, you know, you're going to fall. You're going to fall. You're going to fall. You're going to fall. If you call it out, then it's like, you know, at least, you know, they let them know that there was a fall risk. Yeah.

Yeah, I think you've met your professional responsibility at that point. You're going to fall. Small risk. It reminds me of edit. You know, it's just throwing it out there. You know, just to pepper it in. Yes. So, yes, I do all love to all medical workers out there.

Because, again, what the pit is about is that they also want it to work better. Like, they're all, like, we would love to treat more patients with more resources. And I think that that's, again, has anyone considered more resources? Yeah, I think. Some people have, but I think that, you know, the people that have all their piggy money don't want to give it. And you know what, speaking of piggy money? Oh, yeah.

I'm going to bring up Bobby Flay. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to bring up that movie with the little piggy fingers again. Remember? Give me them piggys. Oh, let me see what those piggyes tastes like. Oh, that piggy. No, no, no.

But also piggy fingers. Better watch out. Oink, oink. I just imagine every time you touch them, they go, oink, oink, if you have piggy fingers. What did Bobby Flee do? I was talking, I'm bringing up Bobby Flee because Chelsea Handler, which, you know, she is in the news for a couple of reasons right now,

but I'm going to choose to talk about Chelsea Handler revealing the bad celebrity date that she went on. Can you imagine going on a date with that fucking guy? She didn't even get to the date. She had such a big. big ick before the date. Let me break this down for you, which I thought you would appreciate this because she said that this was so, such a huge ick that she is calling him out by name because it would,

like she was so icked out. So Bobby Flay, like, she and all of her girlfriends were at a hotel together and they were there for some sort of function. Okay. And she was like, Bobby Flay knew that she was in town. and she said that I guess she had gone on a bad date with him already. And then they were talking on the phone and they were flirting a little bit. She said, I was at a hotel with some girlfriends.

He knew the hotel well and he wanted to order room service, food for us. He was like, let me order your food for you. I love that hotel. He orders me food and she says he's going to love this. And so when all of the food arrives, not only did the food arrive, but so did the bill. Because he didn't order the food and pay for it. He just ordered it and sent it to the room and then had her pay for it.

And she was like, that's so fucking cheap. Next. She's like, I'm very generous with my money. And I like people that are generous with their money. Next. I mean, even a not famous person, if they say like, let me get you. Let me send you some food. food, that usually

And you get a bill? They're not sending the bill. For even a normal person, but Bobby Flay, I think you can afford to buy some friends a meal. This is what I mean. I feel like Chelsea Handler wouldn't expect this from something. Not that I mean, I'm going to be, I can't imagine she would date someone that was completely broke unless I guess they were a really good lay. But again, I don't know this person.

So I can't really say that. But I'm assuming just because she takes such good care. of herself that I would assume that that's what she was looking for. So if you go on a date with Bobby, Bobby Flee, pay for it. Pay for the food. What are you doing? That is so funny to be like, let me order you food. I love that hotel. That'll be $70. You know, like, what? Because I already get an ick from somebody that orders for you without asking. Yeah. Like that, while I feel like some people would see that as like a, oh, move, good for you. I. I completely understand that for me personally.

Don't assume what I want, especially if we're just dating. Do not assume what I am in the mood to eat, especially don't fuck with my food. I'll bite you. There is an influencer that I follow who posted about how like her new boyfriend ordered her food and it was like so like it was like such a like yes from her. And that's what I'm saying. It's good for some people. I think that that's great. But then she like several times posted like, I just love that he orders for me.

And then like a few weeks later, just like a lot of vague cryptic posts about like, well, that relationship is over. I'm not saying it's because he ordered the food for her. But it's, it is a weird. I think it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, a venturous people, whatever. Like, you, you, you, you, or. If I was out for dinner with Bobby Flee, I would be like, you order for me. You can order for me. Sure, yes.

Like that, actually I get. It's offering the consent. Like, if you're saying, like, oh, please order, order for me. If you ask to order for me, and I'm saying yes, you go on. Totally. It's the, like, it's when you sit. I feel the same. I put the people that do that in the same category as someone that is on a date and holds the back of someone's neck as they were walking down the street.

You know what I mean? that's how highly I regard my food. You know? It's as if you're gripping my neck, if you choose what I eat. Get your hand off my neck. Off of me. Have you ever seen someone like guide someone via neck? Not via neck.

I've seen guiding via lower back, which can be nice. Again, with consent. Yes, but I feel like I saw it. Maybe it was just in Greenpoint. I saw it a lot. I don't know. There was something about a lot of, but like it was like, in a consensual manner, not in like a scary manner, but like just men that would guide their

women by the back of their necks. The hipsters or the Polish? Polish. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, not the hipsters. No, the hipsters, you know, they're too frail. They're falling through the sewer grates.

It is the Polish way. It is the point. And I say this is a Zabroski. I mean, the amount of times I would go into a Polish establishment in Green Point and they'd be so excited. They go Zabroski, and then they would start speaking to be in Polish. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. And I'd say daibushi dupa, but you don't say that because it means kiss my ass.

So I just, no, no, no, no, no. I am, oh, no. I got none of that going on here. But I wish I did, because, man, we loved playing the game of when, like, it's like with an older Polish woman walking down the street if you're walking behind her, and you could play the game in your brain of like, is she old? is she young? And then they would turn around and you would have absolutely no idea. Because man, they just keep it so tight. Yeah, that's true. Just such a, it's like such a, wow, you had no idea. And then sometimes they would turn around. You're like, wow, old. It's like an M. Night Shyamalan movie. How did that happen?

Old. Old. Well, you know, I think that we have already known that Bobby Flae, you know, some of, you know, in every way except for his love for cats. But I just, my favorite part of the story is that Chelsea Handler decided to name him. Usually I'm like, don't name, I'm pretty like keep your dating. Like, don't put people on blast, even if they were shitty and interpersonal relationships. I'm usually like, don't put people on less. Bobby Flay.

Put a, Bobby Flay. Get that guy down a pet. Yeah. He can be, and especially because you can tell, he sees himself as such a charmer. Totally. Totally. Like, yeah, I mean, again, if I found myself out to dinner with Bobby Flee, I would be like, you tell me what to eat. Because I know that his, the way that he approaches food as a aggressive colonialist is really annoying. But I also think he makes good food. And I think he probably has really good taste in food. But it is, it is such a, such an antisocial behavior to be like, let me order something for you. Now you pay for it. Yeah. Now you pay for it. That is, yeah, that's, he's, it's, it's pathological. And I guess like some people, I'm trying to think of the devil's advocate side of this.

Some people could look at him like, oh, it's like he respects her because, you know, that like, it's like, I'm trying to give him any kind. But I'm like, no, no, it's just annoying. It was room service. So it's not even like, oh, let me like get you this like restaurant that's nearby you that you might not know about. It's like, she probably would have thought to order room service from the hotel anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's in a hotel with a bunch of her friends. I imagine room service was on the table. You don't have to just order room service for them and make them pay for it. But two shift gears, Jackie. Now, forgive me if you already saw this or already talked about it, but I saw it this morning and I'm excited. Did you see that Robert Pattinson is going to be playing Chris Hanson in an A24 movie about to catch a predator? Whoa. No, I did not.

Yeah, bra. It's, I put the link at the top of the document to, but I would even say you can go watch the trailer now while I talk, but that there's not much to see. It's like a very, very, very teaser trailer. It's called Prime Time. Prime time. And it is all about Chris Hansen's, you know, journey from 2004 to 2007, making 20 episodes of To Catch a Predator.

And randomly, Phoebe Bridger is just making her film. debut. Whoa. In this movie, I was like, what? Robert Pattinson playing Chris Hanson in a, in a, A-24 film, each part of the sentence is more surprising, about to catch a for predator with TV Bridgers. Yes. Really?

Yes. And yes, I will watch. I'll watch it. And, you know, for somebody who loves to take himself very seriously, I actually think that Robert Pattinson is going to do great at being Chris Hanson. But I think that, I mean, to Catch a Predator is, we were just talking about it recently, very interesting cultural phenomenon. But I've always thought, I grew up watching those primetime shows.

I watched Dateline all the time. I watch 2020 every Friday. And I do think that they're kind of like unsurious shows. And so I think that giving it the Robert Pattinson, 824 Gravitas treatment is a really interesting choice, you know. I can't wait to see this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, man, it's going to be messed up.

Sorry, you said Phoebe Bridgers, and in my head for half a second, I thought of Phoebe Waller Bridge, and then I started thinking about Fleabag. And I just remember that on my Instagram, like, three days ago, I was, like, gagged midday because I saw just the, you know, sometimes on your Instagram, I don't know if you follow anybody that's like, they just show like sad clips from things. and I don't know if I even follow these people or if it's just in my feed and someone, you watch Fleabag right? Yeah. Oh yeah. They played the whole thing in between the priest and her

when he says, it'll pass that moment. Yeah. And I watched that moment and I was just like, ah, like I felt like Ralph like with the, uh, where my heart broke with the chew, two, choose. Like in the middle of the day of just watching the it'll pass.

And then I'm like, do I need to watch of Leeback again. Do I need to immediately watch it again? I, um, okay, so I've been thinking about him, Andrew Scott, because Gideon and I finally... Because he's so hot. He's so hot. He's so hot. He's so hot. He made us all want to have sex with a priest.

With a priest. But also, Gideon and I finally made our way through season three, all three seasons of the comeback. And he is in... in season three of the comeback playing like a horrifically sleazy, like, TV exec who, so, so, can I go on a little comeback, comeback info dump? Come back to me. Okay, so season one of the comeback, remember, started in 2006, and it's with Lisa Kudrow, and season one in 2006 is all about her being this watch of actress trying to make a reality show. So in 2006, reality was like the new.

medium, right? And it's all about that. It's like she's kind of stumbling her way. She knows the old guard, which is sitcoms, and she's stumbling her way through this new medium. And then season two comes out in 2016. And that one is all about her stumbling her way through like social media and like the new medium Twitter and like getting feedback online and like things like. So it's it's 10 years later and it's her navigating like another new media landscape. And then season three, which just came out this year, is about the same character, again, 10 years later, now navigating the world of AI. And it's the premise of season three is, again, she's a classic sitcom actor. And the premise of season three is, will you do an AI written sitcom?

And it's like right after the writer strikes. And so she has to choose, like, will, is this like a new frontier like the way that reality was for me or is this where I have to draw the line? and Andrew Scott is the like extremely sleazy pro AI. Like this is just the new world. Like we have to be ready for the world as it's changing. Oh my God. And he is so horrific. But it is, it ends up being like they stuck the landing.

This is, it ends up being an incredible show. As you know, I stopped season one because it was so cringe and painful and everything. Yes. But it ends up, you end up having this 20 year project with the same character navigating the rapidly changing media landscape of the last 20 years and ending up in this, like, the way that they finish and wrap the story is, Gideon and I were both, like, crying at the last episode. It ends up being this incredibly moving, well done kind of epic comedy. Like, I can't even really think of another example of a comedy that takes 20 years to tell the

story of, you know? over waves of changes in the industry. And it is, you know, I complain all the time about like, there's so many shows about the industry. But this, this is about trying not to drown in a constantly changing industry, you know? And somebody who always feels like there are a couple of steps behind as the industry is changing. And it just ends up, it's,

I don't know anything about that. Exactly. It ends, it is just so good. So if you've been on the fence about the comeback, I am here to tell you that I had. Get off. the fence. Get off the fence.

Get off the fence. And the first, the thing about the first season is it's like 20 episodes. That's more like a regular, like the old, again, the old, old way of doing sitcoms. Even though it's like, you know, it's not a sitcom sitcom. It's like an HBO show or whatever. But then the next season two and season three, I think, are only eight episodes. So you can get through it without it taking months like it did for us. And it is, it's beautiful.

It's really. And there's this whole confrontation kind of like between her, And like these writers that are like AI is going to kill us. Like you, it's like this moral. She faces this like mass. Yeah, I mean it's going to. Yeah. I mean.

But then she's just like, well, I need work, you know. So it ends, it's like, it's this beautiful like exploration of this horrible moral quandary that she finds herself in about AI. And it's, it's like an ode to to the sitcom and an ode to acting and to the entire enter to writing. to creating. It's, it's, it was stunning. It ended up being like a stunning show. So I just, I did want to come back here and make that recommendation and also Andrew Scott is there. And you won't want to kiss him because he's very pro-A-I, but you'll- Oftentimes you really don't want to kiss Andrew Scott. I would find. I think, I mean, besides the everything about his everything, it's just he's a very good actor. Very good actor. Very good actor. So he really can do, um,

whatever he wants. But then, you know, you put on all of us strangers. And, you know, you're like, oh, there it is. You and Paul Meskel, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing. Oh, the movie I went to go see by myself in the middle of the day? Yeah, it was worth it. Which one is, Paul Meskill is the one who's going to be a beetle, right? Beetle, he's going to be a beetle, yes. And he's dating Gracie Abrams.

Gladiator 2. I mean, I more, I think a lot of us dream of him because of normal people. Did I ever make you watch normal people? You've talked to being about normal people. It is, it's a love story that was based on a book, that that's when I fell in love with him. And I think a lot, like, it came out over a summer. Oh, it was in 2020. It came out of April 2020.

That's why. That's why. It was one of those. And I remember watching it and being very sad and me. And it was a time period when not everybody wanted to watch sad things. Yeah. Yeah, me. I say, pour them on, baby.

Yes, there's two types of people. People who are going through sad times and want to watch sad things and people who are going through sad times and don't want to watch sad things. I mean, speaking of sad things, can I just throw out there? I want everyone to know I am not about to spoil this movie because I knew nothing about this movie. And Henry has been telling me to watch this movie. Chad has been telling me to watch this movie as someone that loves upsetting movies.

I'm just going to say, I have been. told about the coffee table since the movie came out. Henry was really championing it on side stories. He was really talking about this movie a lot. And I knew nothing about it. Let's just say it's about a couple having a bad night. And that is an easy way to say it. And I loved that I knew nothing about it.

MJ do not watch this movie. It's 2023? Correct. Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only, it's not that old. Okay, okay.

But I had just not been able to take the time to see it yet. Uh-huh, okay. And I watched it with some buds. Rob and James came over and we watched it with some pizza. And I was like, oh, I love watching upsetting movies with my boys. And it really is the kind of movie. When you are 15 minutes in, I will throw it out there. It's fun when it's like a group of people.

When you're 15 minutes in where you're just like, may as well end your life. If you're like yelling that at the screen, it's one of those, you know? Yeah. I will tell you a short, a synopsis of what happens in this movie right after we finish recording. Okay. Because I'd love to see the look on your face because it's great. If you like upsetting things. Okay.

It is, it's Spanish. Is it in Spanish? Yes. Okay. All right. I do like upsetting things, but, you know, not always the same place. See, my way, my version of this is, well, Gideon was in the hospital. I just became one of those.

Yeah, with everything going on right now, the last thing you need is more anxiety, okay? No, no, this is the problem. This is how I did. Well, Gideon was in the hospital. I dealt with it by the, I became one of those freaks who, and I say this lovingly, I'm sure you freaks are out there listening. You know, when there's a true crime thing. and then everyone's like, I have to learn everything about this.

And so there's the crash, the Netflix documentary, which I talked about last week, about teenagers, being making reckless choices. Being bad. And also, I want to throw it out there to the Patreon comments that were like, also, apparently parents that were being really bad parents. I didn't even get into the parents being, yeah, yeah, parents need to make some better choices. A lot of people need to make better choices in this story. Definitely need to make better choices. But, you know, there was, I mentioned it's like, this is not a new story. There's been several, like, other, like, much jankier, you know, TV, true crime episodes done about this. One of which is mean girl murders, which I have talked about on this show before.

And another is killer cases. They're both on Hulu. They are the types of shows that are on, you know, back when I had cable, you just find them on TV at 10 p.m. at my favorite type of true crime shows. And so Mean Girl Murders did an episode. on the same case of Mackenzie Shirilla, who, you know, drove the car into the wall and killed her two friends in the car.

And killer cases also did. And so I watched both Mean Girl murders and killer cases while Giddy was in the hospital. And I was like, I think I might. Yeah. I was like, I think I might. I go in waves with true crime. Sometimes I'm like, this is all I want to watch.

And then sometimes I'm like, this is nauseating. And as I was watching this, like, I think maybe I don't want to keep watching documentaries about a, teenager who drove her car into a wall on purpose, but it is what I'm doing. You know, so if you're a person who copes that way, too, I get it. That's all it. But see, you're, Jackie, you're making more artistic choices.

We're watching Spanish black comedies. And I, I think that's nice. Yes. And I, you know, thank you. You know, and I'm also going to go see, I went to go see I love boosters. Oh, dude. I love boosters is so much fun. It's the new Boots Riley movie.

Oh, yay. I don't know if you've seen any of the trailers for it or anything. No, I haven't. MJ, it was so much fun. It is like he leaned so hard into magical realism. The fits, the everything. I mean, Kiki Pomp, I just, I bowed down at the fucking pedestal of Kiki Palmer. Lakey Stamfield, too, man.

Lakeith Stanfield is so funny. It's so funny. It's so weird. It's so unique. And just the colors, the way it's done, I was just sucked in to the way this was made. To me more as the like Anna Wintour bad woman is, she is eating it up. It is such a, it is the opposite of the coffee table. I just, I had a wonderful experience in a room with everyone watching this movie where we're all laughing.

Like I felt like it was just such a, it was a wonderful together cinematic experience. Cool. Oh, that's great. I mean, obviously I love Boots Riley. But no, I have, this has totally gone under my radar. I have not seen the previews for it or anything. Oh, or you, have you been a little busy? Are you busy with a couple other things, MJ? Not just out of your watching trailers at the AMC. I got to get, see, I don't have an AMC near me. Otherwise, I could dream of being an AMC. What do you, what do you call yourself?

We're Stubs. Stubbs. Stubbs. Yeah, we're in a Stubbs club and I'm sorry that you're not invited to it. You are invited to it, but you just won't take our outstretched hand. Someday. Oh, someday. But I am excited because I want to.

We were talking about this in chat. I want to, because I'm writing the cryptid fuck game with Jeff, I do want to rewatch Mothman prophecies. I have been warned by chat that it is longer than you remember. Do you remember the Mothman prophecies? It's Richard Geer, Laura Linney. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was 2002. See, this is good because this is the time. Like all of the movies that I've, I had a time in my life where I did watch movies constantly because I had a high school best friend who was just like, let's go to the library and check out as many movies as we can. You know, just spent like a summer like in her basement watching as many movies as we can. And yeah, this is that, that era.

But I don't, I don't know if I remember, it'll come back to me. I don't know if I remember them off the Man Propheasies. But yeah, this is a great. Laura Linney, Richard Gear, Deborah Messing. Okay. So remind me. about Mothman? About this movie about 2002's Mothman prophecy.

I mean, I feel like it's one of the bigger movies or it is the like big movie about Mothman and this is all we get. It's the text. It's the go-to text. Yes, I see. Well, you know, that they really, they stretched out the lore of Mothman a little bit more. So I'm intrigued with what they did with it because right now Jeff and I are also creating our own. Mothman character. Right.

And we're building him into this more of like an Edward Cisorhands type where he's plagued by visions and stuff like that. And so I'm just curious to see now that we're building out lore and worlds for different cryptids. So like since I know, I hate to break it to you, some of it is made up. So we're now making up our own versions of it. So I'm intrigued to see how people write about these other cryptids sexually. Even though I know Mothman prophecies, I know Richard Gere isn't trying to shove Mothman up his ass like he did those gerbils. But maybe he did.

Maybe he loved the flutter inside of the tubes. I don't know what Richard Gere was after in this movie. And especially in 2002, I do know, I think we were already talking jirbel at that point. Yeah, I think the gerbil was like in Richard Gere's heyday. Yeah, because by 2002, Richard Gere had already entered kind of like daddy, Daddy Richard Gere era. Yes. Yes.

But it is, it is, you know, based on the Mothman prophecies book. So that's why I got to see. I do remember Jeff did remind me of Japsdick, which is apparently what Mothman says when Richard Gear asked what's inside of his pocket. And he goes, Chapstick. And I'm... Wait, so have you rewatched Moth Man Prophecies yet?

Or this is on your wish list? No, I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm excited because, oh, just, oh, shout out to Weavered Weasel and chat because I'm getting my Mothman jelly cat. I hate how much I love the goddamn jelly cats. M.J., you know this.

about me. You know I'm not allowed to buy any jelly cats. You know that, and for those that don't know, jelly cats are just these little bean bags and have little faces on them. Trendy little stuffies. They're trendy. I will not buy any jelly cats for myself, except I did. I did buy this one, but I got it from a backdoor toy dealer. Sorry, Wayward that I described you as such, you just work at a toy store. And I was able to get the mothman because it sold out so fast and I could get a Mothman jelly cat? There's a moth man jelly cat. Why?

Is there a mothman jelly cat? I'm sorry because they knew I existed and they knew that I needed it. That's cute. Isn't it cute? I have to have it. Wow. Yeah. His name is Miff Mothman and I have to have it.

That's, yeah, that really I think shows you that the jelly cats are maybe made for adults and not kids. But that's fine. I mean, kids love them. I mean, at the same time, you think that your kids wouldn't think that Miff Mothman is cute? Yeah, I mean, they're, we, you know, we have like a little Cthuloo. We have a couple of, you know, different, we have cat bus. We have like some, we dabble in stuffies from the, you dabble in tentacles? Do I need to get some more monstrous stuff for the kids?

Is that what you're asking more? They don't like it. It's more like they, when Gideon was in the hospital, in fact, they gathered up little Cthulu Cat Bus and one of our giant snakes. You say Cat Bus like I'm supposed to, is this a cat that has been shifted into a bus, like a transformer? Cat Bus is a fictional character in the studio Ghibli film My Neighbor Totoro. Oh, my name of Todra.

And I, that cat bus. Okay, now I know what you're talking about. Now, it is a cat stretched out of it, but it's not like a titan. And we're not talking about like a... In my brain, you watch the shift from the cat as it went like, as it like shifts into a bus against its will. That's what I thought you were talking about. And I imagine it's sweeter than that.

Yeah. Yeah. It is, I mean, the cat bus stuffy is very sweet. I think these are, I think Lil Cthulu and the cat bus were stuffies that were given to us when our children were born because people know that Gideon is a nerd. and so they don't really mean much to me. And every time we do a stuffy call, my kids are like, maybe we should get rid of these, too.

And Gideon's like, no, those are mine. And so that's why they sent me to bring them to him in the hospital. Gotcha. But yeah, so I think if we did have a mothman jellycat, that's just, that's not the phase that my kids are in right now. But I did want to tell you, in terms of you being a trendsetter. Yes. My kids, they love miniature things.

And so they're not allowed to watch many YouTube channels. But right now their YouTube channel that they're obsessed with is like a lady who builds like miniature houses for Barbies and also gets like very good fashion for her Barbies. Like really trendy, like homemade. Like Kiki Palmer of Barbies? Like Kiki Palmer of Barbies. And so she's been talking a lot about bucket hats for the Barbies because mini brands, which is, one of the many surprise balls that are trendy for kids now. Oh, those balls.

Those balls. You open them and they have little shoes, tiny Nike shoes in them. And so one of the mini brands has trendy bucket hats. And so now my kids know about bucket hats and they know that bucket hats are trendy. And today we were talking about the Richard Scary Books and specifically my favorite character from the children's book, Richard Scary Children's Books, Mr. Frumble, who is a little pig, who wears a green suit. He's always chasing his hat. Oh my God, you have to get the tattoo.

Yes, I mentioned Mr. Frumble because I identify deeply with Mr. Frumble. He's constantly chasing his hat. And the narrator is just like, catch it, Mr. Frumble. And he's trying so hard. And he just can't catch it. But today, as I'll describe Mr. Frundt. Sounds like a lot of anxiety. It sounds like Mr. Frumble is a lot of anxiety.

It's like, it always made me think of Eeyore. Like, it always made me think of like, it would be so upsetting to lose your tail every day. Yeah. It would be so upsetting. And no one's helping. Mr. Frumble. He's running. So deregulated. He's just running through the whole town. Someone help him get his fucking hat or he's got hooves. Everyone's just watching him going, wow, Mr. Frumble. He's still like that fat bastard trying to get his fucking hat.

But Mr. Frumble, the Richards Gary books were written, I think, in the 1950s. He's definitely wearing a 1950s daddy hat, like a fedora. But my child today described it as a bucket hat. And he was like, she was like, Mr. Frumble's chasing his bucket hat. And I was like, that's how you know a trend. Once a trend has made it down to the six, seven, eight-year-olds, that's when... That's when you know it's dead? That's when you know it's dead. But you were at the front of the bucket hat trend.

We all laughed to you. And we said, what are you talking about, Jackie? Buckingheart's on back. I'll still wear my bucket hats out. I wear them out in the field. Yeah, yeah. But so you were right. And now, you know, they did their trend cycle for several years.

And now... Thank you. Can you say that again so I can get that down? I was. You were at the front of a trend. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a trendsetter.

Thank you so much for recognizing me in what I've brought to the Richard Scary world. And yes, I did go back in time and inspire Richard Scary himself. So if anybody out there is an artist who wants to draw Mr. Frumble with a bucket hat, I kind of just want to say, I feel like maybe that should be my tattoo.

Because if you do Google, Mr. Frumble, it is, it's not a bucket hat. but I understand why she thinks it's a bucket hat. It's a daddy hat, you know. It's a daddy hat. It's a daddy hat from the old days. Oh, they're published in the 90s. Wow.

It is really cute, though. Mr. Frumble's so fucking cute, and he's trying so hard. Is Richard Scarry really from the 90s? Let's see. Richard Scary. What era? Because he's very, the books are very old-fashioned. What era are you, Mr.

No, 1949. Okay, thank you. In 1890, it was when it started. Okay, okay. He started putting out the Richard's, scary books. Okay, that makes sense. Damn, you put out over 300 books. Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, worm cars to draw and cute little neighborhoods to... Oh, he was drawn all of it, too. It was all him. That's a lot of work. I fucking love Richard Scarry. If you have not read

a Richard Scary book, I highly recommend it. I always loved it. My favorite part about Richard Scary books, I remember I would open up like the really big books, and I like to look at it because of all the details. Yes. And I remember that I used to love to look through and try to find new details that I hadn't seen before. Totally. It's like an early childhood visual encyclopedia.

Like it's like, this is the kitchen of the cat family. And so there's a story going through the whole book, The Cat Family's Day or whatever. But also it's like everything is, everything in the kitchen is labeled and like everything at the grocery store. And yeah, they're just, they're wonderful. And I love them. but Mr. Frumble in a bucket hat. That's what I got.

Is that what you're referring to Travis Kelsey as? We had touched on it, of course, a little bit because Holden was on the episode. Yeah, I wanted to know if we talked about this. But Mike was also on the episode, so we didn't really talk about Taylor Swift very much. Can we just throw it out there that, like, that whole frat boy chugging a beer and, like, like, like, like, frat boy in it up for everybody. It is charming to some extent. I feel as someone that I'm about to marry, I'm not quite as charmed by it.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I also... But he was just being fun and so maybe I'm being too much of a wet blanket. But I was just like, God, and he's just like, admit, but you know what? Jackie, maybe she just has fun with him. Maybe they have fun together and maybe I need to give them.

that just the benefit of the doubt. Well, yeah, so they're at the basketball game, and he's wearing a very, like, Justin Timberlake Britney Spears VMA outfit of denim, all denim on top, denim on bottom. And he's chugging the beer. But I think all the, I think what also annoyed me about this was all the framing is like, oh, Taylor Swift is so embarrassed by him. And I don't like, like, performative, like, oh, my, my dumb husband stuff, you know, like, I don't like that.

Although, this is funny, though, because I'm looking at this line. from him because he was talking about it on his podcast, of course, with his brother. And see, but then this part is funny, where his brother was yelling at him, calling him classless, being like, you can't chug a beer in front of everybody. And then he said, it was a classy chug, Jason. I didn't spill one drop. He said, I didn't crush the can. I'm on a hardwood floor in an NBA game.

It could have gotten messy. It was a smooth, classy chug to get the people going. And you know what? Never mind. That made me like him again. Well, then that's endearing then. Okay, but how did, all I can see is pictures and all of the coverage is like, Taylor Swift must be so embarrassed. Was she cool about it?

Was she, or was she like, oh, my stupid husband. She was definitely doing the like, oh, boy, you know, like, yeah, yeah, kind of thing. But it was cute. It was cute. Okay. Yes. Yeah, you know, I, it really, talk about depends on the day. It really depends on the day.

Sometimes they are enraging and sometimes I'm like, oh, look at you guys having fun. fun. I know. And I think that we are about to start getting enraged because I think that this is the lead up to the wedding. So I feel like things are going to either she's going to drop out of sight or we're going to start getting really annoyed because everyone's like, who's going to the wedding? What are they wearing? Right. What about the wedding? What about the wedding? What about the wedding stuff's going to be annoying. I think, yeah. And I want to be annoying. It's going to be annoying. It's going to be annoying. And the thing about I really find myself wanting to not like the Kelsey brothers. But then I do find myself being like, I think that this might be a healthyish model.

of this type of masculinity. You know? Like, I think that it might be, I think they might be fine. I don't know. I'm so scared to say it. I don't know. I might be so wrong.

MJ, I feel like we're about to work. We're going to get just like law essays of how wrong we are, which you know, we'll learn. Well, it was like when I said that Kylie Kelsey was seemed magacoded and a bunch of people were like, she seems megacoded, but she's like actually very nice. The textual examples of how she speaks point towards her

being like a pretty thoughtful, not maga person. And I think that that's the thing. I think that the Kelsey brothers seem like toxic masculinity, but I have yet to really see them projecting toxic masculinity. And I do like bros, and I want bros to be, make bros good again, you know, like I want bros to not represent the worst things on earth. And maybe they always have, but also I've always known good bros, you know, there's always been good bros out there. And I'm just feeling like I want the Kelsey's to be like good bros so that the other good bros out there don't have to go into, you know, the, with Louis Thru and the Manosphere. They could just have nice healthy bros, you know?

Because like I'm decimated by a hymbo. I love him. I love a big, like, it's like, I'm married to one. Like, I like, you know, we're just like, oh, they mean well. Oh, like, you just want to like rub on their face like they're a big bulldog where you're just like, like, ah, laugh. I mean, I think, Jeff is, uh, did a different category. than Travis Kelsey in terms of him, but he's very smart and thoughtful.

He's very smart and very emotionally intelligent. Not that I don't, I don't know if Travis Kelsey is, but I'm just going to say, we don't know. Yeah, no, we don't know. And I appreciate you saying that because you're right. It's not the same energy. It's not the chugging a beer energy in front of everyone, but I just, I love a big, gentle giant that, you know, but just because.

I have weird sexual feelings wrapped up in the world of Iron Giant doesn't mean that I that needs to be splurted over my every perspective of media. Yeah. Yeah. And also, you know, I, you know, when neither of us are sportsmen, but obviously, and I have been zero percent following the Knicks, but obviously all of New York City is is screaming and drinking in the streets. Happy ball for you. So happy ball. Happy ball day. Is it done? Is the ball done? And you have the ball forever? Is that what happened? I don't know. Some of my best friends are obsessed with the Knicks. And I'm like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. They're in the playoffs. And they haven't been in the playoffs. And like, I think since the 90s. And so everyone's so happy. It just was funny that a friend of mine who's also from New York was just like, he's like, man, good day for New York.

And I was like, and I just literally like, Mom, Donnie. And I just just assumed. And it was funny because he was like, you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, right? I was like, Mom Donnie. And I just keep saying mom. If I just keep saying Mom Donnie, then I just assumed. No, it's like in the giver, spoiler alert for the end of the children's book, The Giver.

Whoa, when they put the babies down the shoot? No. When did he realizes that you can see in color and he's been seeing in black and white his whole life? Big spoiler. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

If there's any fifth graders out there listening. Content wording, okay? But when people, whenever there's this realm of culture that people immerse their entire lives in that I never once think about, I always think about the giver. I'm like, oh, there's like a whole color I don't see, which is loving basketball, you know, like, loving the ball. Loving the Knicks. And so there's, yeah, everyone in New York is living their entire lives around what's happening around the Knicks right now. And I don't know. But I know that everyone's having a good time.

And so that's why I'm like, yeah, Travis Kelsey, have a good time at the United States. NBA Eastern Conference Finals. And I'd rather look at you than Timothy Shalameh and that Kardashian on the floor because Timothy Shalame is there. And he's always. He's always there. He's always there. He's always there.

And you know who's not sitting in the front? Zoron. Zoran's sitting in the back with the people. And Timothy Shalameh is sitting in the front. Whoa. Did you know that there was a basketball team called the Washington Wizards? I did know that. Yeah.

That's awesome. I wouldn't be on the Wizards. Bazing, bazing, and that's me with my wand, and I'm going to say, ball in the hoop, ball in the hoop, and that's, and then they're all, why aren't the wizards winning every time? This is the difference between our brothers, because I do have, like, a little bit of sports fluency from growing up with my brother, and I don't think you got that good.

Not a second of it. Not, not for a moment. I didn't know, I genuinely, I didn't know that's awesome. They should all be named after, yes, like a different, like, oh, yes, you know, mystical menacers. Yeah, yeah, the C. Sorserers. Ooh, and everyone's

wearing cloaks and everyone's got clitter on. Yeah, I did know about the Washington Missers, but I'm thrilled for you to learn

about them today. Bazing, buzzing! Oh, my God. They should win all the time, and that means that their magic

isn't very good, which means we need to go out and clap for them so their magic gets stronger. Yeah, yeah. Is it like a

tinkerbell thing where it depends on how many people are rooting for them of how far they go. I don't, I don't, I didn't, didn't, didn't, didn't Michael Jordan play on the, somebody, some famous person played on the wizards for a while. That's the only, was it Michael Jordan? I don't know. Um, I don't know much about the Washington Wizards, but yeah, Michael Jordan was on the Wizards. Oh, I'm sorry, you met Wes unselled. Michael, I'm sorry, I, I just looked up Washington Wizards famous players and I've never heard of. Oh, it does say Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is there.

But they start off with Wes Unsell, just saying. They're throwing that out there. They don't start with, they're not leading with Michael Jordan. So I'll tell you this. If you're going to work in a middle school or a high school and you're going to talk to any boys, it is going to be helpful for you to have some conversational ability around basketball. I was counseling to 17-year-old boys. this year, who just wanted to talk about basketball.

And it was as if they were speaking in a different language to me. And I was just like, uh-huh, uh-huh. Oh, wow. Wow. That is tall. Yeah. And they go, quick, quick, quick, like, I just always am thinking about the sounds that the shoes make. And I'm just like, put the sounds of the shoes make, huh?

And most people aren't focused on that, which blows my mind. Yeah. But, yeah, New York having a really good time with the, with the Knicks. Did you talk about all the fun Colbert goodbyes with Mike and Holden? We did. Yeah. We did. And then they more made a lot of jokes about comics unleashed because that's the, that's what's taking over the time slot for Stephen Colbert.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. So we shit on that quite a bit. I say this as former comic. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, no.

It's really. And this is, you know, as, you know, Mike. currently writes comedy. And even he was like, oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. So it's, what a loss. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're really sanitizing any kind of ability to have any kind of jokes or fun. The thing that Colbert and Letterman did where they were dropping stuff off the roof brought back such happy memories. Because I used to, in the summer, I would stay up late and watch Letterman with my dad. My dad was a Letterman person. And the things that they would do were so funny. They would throwing things off the roof. They would have, who is that guy?

Biff, his like helper guy would sit out there on the street with like a giant block of ice and just wait to see how long it would take to melt. And like so much weird experimental shit. And I, yeah, I was just watching Colbert and, you know, watching all the different highlights of what Colbert has done. So I was kind of anti-Colbert. at first because I was like Colbert is a character and it's going to be a really weird transition for him to be like what a late night host is but he obviously did so good and then realizing that I had never really thought about him as like trying to carry on some of like extreme weirdness of what David Letterman did. But yeah, watching them throw the shit off the roof together. I was like man, this really is like obviously late night is never like high art. But what Letterman did was like so creative and so weird. And Colbert brought some. such cool stuff.

Such fun energy. It is really, it is a profound cultural loss. And I know that culture changes and I know we're getting older and everything changes. But like this is like, this is not like a thing's organically changing. This is like a millionaires are slamming the door shut because they don't want creative intelligent people to have a microphone anymore. And that's, that's, that's, that's why I'm sad.

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's good and scary. And that's why like here in L.A., we've got Spencer Pratt still running for the LA mayoral election. I know. I keep thinking about it out there. Reminder, LA, to vote this week.

You have to, have to, have to vote. We cannot allow another fucking reality start. Like an even way dumber, actual way shittier. And I'm just so fucking sick of seeing his name anywhere. I'm so sick of it. And I remember like when the fires were happening and he was, It's like, man, we lost everything in a fire. And I was like, that's sad.

Like, you're, yes, that's. Yeah, because he's a human being. Because you're a human being. But now, you're not, you're trying. Now, no. Now you're not a human being anymore. And I'd like you to go the fuck away. Yes, you have lost.

I'd like you to go away. This is not funny anymore. Especially with everything at our country. It's not funny anymore. I mean, what's it like in L.A. Are there a bunch of, like, is it, is Spencer Pratt everywhere? Well, we're about to explode. I mean, we're about to explode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got other, we got some things going on. Yeah. over here. Yeah. So it's, that's why then you see like, and I'm just like, why is Spencer Pratt still even being disgusted? Like, I, I get filled.

Sorry, Jackie, you're yeah. I get filled with such a rage. Yeah. Yeah. About it, because we're all seething right underneath our skin. And so I just see it. And I'm just like, can we? Yeah.

Dennis Quaid endorses Spencer Pratt. That is Quaid. Just because your house also caught on fire doesn't mean you need to endorse Spencer Pratt. Maybe that's what he thinks it means. Maybe he thinks he's getting on board for like people against the fires burning down their homes. Maybe they just are misconstrued. You know, they think they're a part of an anti-fire coalition. Man, what a, what a mess.

Yeah, what I guess a vacuum that is being filled by the worst people on earth. Why do you think I'm just like, yeah, Mom Donnie? He's like, we just have to keep saying Mom Donnie. Like if we can just keep saying it, maybe we'll lather up another one. Like if we could find another one in the rough somewhere. Yeah. They got to be out there. Shake them out.

Yeah. No, I do feel for you that we got Mom Donnie and you guys are, you know, he's trying to get Spencer Pratt. And when I was texting you that I, you know, the Giddy was in the hospital that I wasn't sure if I could record. and you were being, of course, immediately very helpful and supportive. And then I was like, oh, by the way, are you under an evacuation order for that chemical plant? And you were like, I say let it burn. And so I'm glad that you didn't have to evacuate because of the chemical plant. But for those that, yeah, that were not aware of what's going on.

Because, you know, I feel like the dissemination of information in this country is so all over the place. That there was this huge, like, chemical leak that was happening. happening here, like in Orange County, in SoCal. Right by you, yeah. In SoCal. And it is, uh, it, it was literally like, we're all just going about our work week. And it's like, well, we might all explode. Well, I got to get this deadline.

And it's like, it really, it's such a, we're in such a disjointed reality right now that it's just like, all right. And then you're, then I keep seeing Spencer Pratt's saying, I'm just like, okay. All right. We're just, ah, hey. I feel like, you know, like, I feel like I'm in a Twilight Zone episode. And, like, it's just called gaslighting the Twilight Zone episode where I'm just like, everything is, oh, oh, uh, uh, and I think that we're all, it does make me want to restart watching the Twilight Zone just from the beginning just to just sit in it through

the summer. But we know that we can't, you know why? Because Love Island starts next week. Thank God. The reason for the season is beginning next week. I am hoping I have a whole other summer where I can pretend like it's not summer. The sun doesn't exist. I don't go in a pool.

I'm just in the villa with bombshells. Jackie, that was your grief summer. I know, but I think that maybe this is my every summer. I think I loved it. I just want to read the text that Jackie sent me when I asked, are you guys okay, read that chemical plant thing? And she said in all capitals, oh, who cares about a sploty chemical plant? Let it ride.

I'm ready for it to be over. Which is, you know, that's the energy that we need to bring to every. Let it ride, man. Every crisis. We just, we got to keep going. We got it. We just, we can't. Because if you're inside watching Love Island, you might be more likely to survive the chemical plant explosion.

The chemical explosion. You're right. Maybe I'll get less side effects. I don't know. Maybe I'll still, I don't know what's, what's going to happen. I'm just like gripping my iodine. And I'm like, will the iodine help? Chernobyl? Will the iodine help? And it's just like, no, the iodine doesn't help with this. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't watch Chernobyl the miniseries because I was like, too sad. Don't want to know. Yo, it's good. I honestly was trying to get Jeff. I was like, let's start it again. I need Chernobyl. But that's how Werner Herzog. I'm confusing because there's the Chernobyl. documentary that we're where that the Werner Herzog one and he always is

Chernobyl and I so that's why I have to say it like Werner Herzog saying Chernobyl every time I say it uh and not to be confused with the mini series with uh Chernobyl yeah yes Jared Harris maybe yeah I don't remember oh yeah Jerry Harris oh yeah yeah oh man swing swing swing he's one of those when you know you're getting old if you want want to bang Jared Harris. Extremely. That is the sign. That's it.

You got to start putting money in a Roth IRA if you want to bang Jared Harris. You should have done that 20 years ago if you want to bang Jared Harris. Okay. But he's so hot, dude. Yeah. And I've been watching Mad Men and he's hot in Mad Men. This is my problem. It's not me.

It's Mad Men. That is Mad Men. Mad Men will make anybody hot. Even though now I'm looking at pictures of older him, and I think I'm even more attracted to him currently than I am in Mad Men. Well, it's because he's got the beard. And so he's got, like, he's going to let the, like, the beard grow in. So he's not as clean shaven as he is in Mad Men.

I forgot that I thought he was hot at Mad Men. I was too busy thinking, obviously, all of them were hot, even though. But then that's the problem with Mad Men forever is that you're like, oh, they're so hot. You're like, oh, but they're so bad. Oh, but they're so hot. Oh, they would treat me poorly. But they're so hot. Yeah.

And it just goes back and forth. and, you know, until you find yourself, I think we're in season four. We're so bad at finishing shows. We're just so bad at it. But then you see, you know, you see John Satterley. We were at a protest and John Satterley was at the, Slatery was at the protest, like, holding court with a bunch of hot milfs. And I was just like, John Slaughterly. Oh, John Satterley is out here too.

Even though I'm saying Satterly, continuing, even though it's. slattery. All right. It's time to end the show. We got to end the show, even though, you know, I'm not going to get into watching, throwing it out there. I watched Basketcase for the first time and don't tell my brother because Basketcase is one of his favorite movies of all time. And I, uh, I just watched it for the first time. And I can't believe that that was my first time. I knew so much about it, but I'd never actually sat and watched it. It's a great fun, dark, it was like a dark comedy. It was because of the coffee table.

So I think we were just looking for more other like dark comedies. Oh my God, I get to tell you about what happens at the coffee table in about five minutes. Okay, let's end the show. Let's get out of here. Thank you all for joining us on this week's episode of Second Helping's. MJ, I'm so happy you're back. I'm happy to be back. I'm so thankful to...

Never leave me with the nerds ever again. I am thankful to you and also to... Holden and Mike for holding it down while I was gone. I'm also very, very thankful to all of you incredibly wonderful listeners who reached out with Well Wishes for Gideon. He is home. He got to make it to the heading ceremony and he is, you know, on the path, hopefully towards healing after, you know, we're not totally out of the woods yet, but really, really... You're not out of the woods. You're not out of the woods. You're not out of the woods. We are, in fact, Into the woods, but that's okay.

Into the woods. I mean, come on. If you're going to say it. Into the woods. Into the woods. But yes, thank you. Thank you, everybody, for being so sweet and thoughtful. And Jackie, I'm so happy to be back and I cannot wait to talk with you more next week.

But for now, shall we sing the song? Let's get the hell out of here. Yeah. Pot'll be better the second time around. Bye, everybody. This show is made possible by listeners like you. Thanks to our ad sponsors. You can support our shows by supporting them.

For more shows like the one you just listened to, go to lastpodcastnetwork.com.