Page 7 - Second Helpings - It's All PR, Jackie

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

Summer Time Sadness Jackie has started her solo journey into Love Island USA S7 a dawg in each hand, while MJ's havin' the exact opposite time and is descending into his Summer of Madness with two sch...edule free kids, The VERY young and VERY hip MJ crashed his brother and besties 20yr college reunion last weekend, and it had him realizin' that time does indeed keep on slip-slip-slippin'! They're already kickin' Love Islanders off for bein' racist and it makes you wonder what kind of vettin are they actually doing. Not to mention the interesting bestiality factoids another contestant was throwin' down, BUT THEY WERE WROOOOOONG (thankfully)!!!! Candace Cameron Bure is afraid of scary movies and Liquid Death beverages opening demonic portals and its absolutely insane AND there's audio proof of it! There's a cute Variety profile on The Gog and Aimee Lou Wood but everyone's tryin' to make it weird again, Katy Perry tried to be a Werner Herzog and brought a little girl on stage to confuse and terrify her by offering the child her shoe to eat, the Brooke Shields podcast interview that's causing a ruckus has been taken down without anyone saying anything. Olivia Munn says she doesn't like Ms Rachel 'cause kids songs are annoying and it blew up into something more, now everyone's having to be like 'STAHP.' Jackie and Geoff are havin' a literal Flag Day over the weekend where everyone's gonna dress as their favorite flag, which has Jackie feelin' Argentinean. Mileys all over the PR cycle for her new album, which Jackie says is more lowkey, but Miley is also now dealing with a dumb comment she made about Jojo Siwa as well. Tom Cruise got into the Guinness book of world records for the most burning parachute jumps from an individual helicopter, 16, but that doesn't mean all of them are worth watching...  Speakin of Cruise, MJ has spread the world of his fish fuckin' to a trusted friend.  A far too concerned mother shamed a man on social media for seeing Lilo and Stich alone, Jackie reports back that the The Phoenician Scheme is good, and MJ has begun The Rehearsal, all that and more on this weeks Second Helpings!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:10 A second down around. Yeah. Yes. As I just stare down the barrel of MJ's eyes, wondering which show we're recording and how do we begin and should I start singing and am I singing alone? But it's kind of nice because I think that like a brain fried is a great way to live a summer life. Yeah. Because then I don't need the sun to rot my brain this summer.
Starting point is 00:00:37 It's already rotten. And I'm fine with it. It's the opposite. You should be proud of how your brain and my brain can transcend technology and in a single moment of eye contact across a Zoom screen can have such a moment of connection. Yeah. And we feel it. Confusion and connection. Always confusion. Yes. And then circling back around understanding. Isn't that what life is all about? Isn't that friendship, you know, at its core? Wow. You know what, MJ, thank you for seeing me. Refram. Reframe. Wow. Beautiful perspective. Thank you. And welcome, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Get a little bit more. Yeah, you know that you weren't full up from the last one and we're glad that you're here. Because I know you're like, I know you started talking about having sex with predators, but like, could you finish the conversation? I won't. I'm not going to go individually through each predator and talk about which one I want to have sex with the most. Although I have been thinking about turning that into a full one woman show because I think I could. Oh, 100%. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Write down all your ideas, Jackie. even the ones that come up mid-riff, I think that's sometimes where the best, that's where the nuggets are. Oh, yeah, and you know I'm here to sniff out those nuggets, baby. Ow-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-because I got the sauce. But we are here to talk about other things. And, you know, right now in my life experience,
Starting point is 00:02:00 you guys know that I've been really trying to be, I mean, give myself grace. I'm trying to use a lot of self-care. And I will say, unfortunately, for me and my summer experience, what I've decided to really invest myself in is Love Island USA Season 7. And I decided that rather than experiencing summer outside of hot dogs, you know, I'm still going to be eating my barbecue meats. I'm still going to go from place to place and people are going to hand me hot dogs. Don't worry, that will still happen. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:35 But all the other smiling I've decided, is this? not going to exist. Smile-free summer. It's a smile-free summer. Only for me. I want it to be a smile-full summer for everybody else. And I want you guys to have more smiles to support my lack of smiling. But I will say I do have a big stupid smile on my face when I'm watching Love Island just
Starting point is 00:02:57 because it's watching the beautiful, dumb people, navigate, be. on camera 24-7. You know, I'm so glad that you're doing this because you and I are really going to have about as opposite of summers as to a very close friends can have. Yes, very much so. And I think it'll make for interesting, hopefully make for interesting shows because I want to hear all about these beautiful idiots on Love Island, U.S. I can't imagine how many hours they put into this.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Like, I know that there are so many episodes. there's so many hours, and I think it's great. But my summer is going to consist of just like, you know, the hard thing about summer when you have kids is that they, you think we all remember summers as like, ah, fun. But kids just, there's something about the lack of routine and the changes. Drives them mad. Drives them mad, kind of a Shakespearean level. Yeah. And so I will be gradually descending into madness.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I will be losing touch with reality increasingly. Bitch madness. Yeah. Summer of madness 2025. And you'll have your summer of sadness, 2025. Ooh, okay. Mad and Sads here. I love this.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It might be scary for everyone listening because they're like, guys, you know, you should shoot higher than this. But no, why? You know, I'm not looking to shoot for the moon and then you land among the stars right now. I just, I want to keep in the same. spaceship down here. I'm not shooting for nothing. I just, if anything, I'm hoping that maybe I can learn how to roll over in the spaceship,
Starting point is 00:04:44 like if I could stay down here. Yeah, shoot for the floor. And you'll land on the floor. And you'll land on. And isn't that kind of where we all want to be? It's just kind of laying prone. Just be it, just being out. You know, just don't, don't come at me.
Starting point is 00:05:02 You know, I love, you know, even in D&D, I love that when you're prone, requires an extra action to get up. And I feel like that's the most life-like part of D&D is that you're right. I do need a whole extra. If I'm all the way on the ground, yeah, I need a second. I'm actually going to jump up with my fucking battle axe and be able to cut the orcs head off. All right? Yeah. Multiple action. There's multiple steps to getting up at this age. And I know we do have some young listeners. For the longest time, I thought page seven listeners were exclusively our age. And we do hear from young people every so often. And so I am sorry to have become one of those old who's just like, oh, it's so hard to stand up now.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But when it happens to you, you'll remember this conversation. And you'll feel, you'll remember how smug you were with your lithe young body. So, man, I was on the treadmill yesterday. And then all of a sudden, I felt like a weird shirt pain in my hip. And then at night, I went to Jeff. And he's like, oh, is your hip okay? And I was like, no, I've got a new pain. And he's like, oh, fun.
Starting point is 00:06:02 He's like, do you think it's a new pain that's like, now it's just a new point? part of you and it's like, I think so. But we kind of get excited, you know, then it's like, oh, new fun. Like, oh, what's the new? Like, oh, now I always have this thing. Like, I've had a weird thing with my elbow, but now I always have this thing. And then it's just becomes a party. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Then you're just like, oh, it's my thing. And that's your feet. Yeah, my feet. Yeah, no. You're plant or fash. Yeah, no, no. I got to go to my, it wasn't even my 20 year college reunion. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I think I'm at 17 years since I finished college. Hell yeah. But I'm very. So I'm very young, but I did crash my... So I'm very young, by the way. I crashed my brother and my bestie's 20-year reunion last weekend, and it was so fun. But it really... Nothing like reckoning with the passage of time than to be around all the people you met when
Starting point is 00:06:51 you were 18 years old. Oh, they see the difference. Sitting in the same place that you used to, like, do so many drugs. Like the same physical, it was called the Great. It was like a little heating area. a vent by the laundry room and we would sit there and we would get so messed up. And instead, this time we're just like, you know, gradually lowing ourselves to the ground gently. You know, we're like making sure there's, it's right next to a staircase.
Starting point is 00:07:16 We're like, oh my God, this is so unsafe. Oh my God. We're so drunk next to the staircase. You think about that. Like there should be more signage about the dangers here. It was really a difficult moment. I mean, it was so fun and lovely. But also I was like, I am indeed older.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Like somehow, somewhere along the way it happened. Yes. And it is, you know, but it's good because then, you know, we're growing older together and we all connect in different ways and it's good. It creates a different sense of community and I try to see the positives. I'm trying to see the positives of getting older because I do like being this age. I would never go back. Yes, exactly. And also, you know, there's no alternative that's better.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So we have to just be unfortunately very grateful for what we have. Yes. And that's why I'm so grateful for Love Island. Because here's the thing. Yeah, tell me about the young, beautiful idiots on Love Island. It is great. They've already kicked off one of the islanders. I mean, they already have because of the process of the show,
Starting point is 00:08:12 but also because they found a bunch of racist tweets of hers. And I was like, wow, you really didn't check that, huh? Didn't check that at all? You'd think that we could find that early. And it wasn't even like one. It was like, oh. It was like, how did you not see this? But then I thought maybe that the villa also had cameras in my home, because remember two days ago when I was just talking about Christopher Columbus having sex with manatees?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yes. Sierra on Love Island, USA gets into a conversation about Christopher Columbus having sex with manatees, but then also claimed that chlamydia comes from having sex with koalas and that gonorrhea comes from having sex with cows. So she's really given all kinds of information. So you got to remember, they don't have phones. They can't check this stuff, you know. How could they know? Apparently that so she says on the show, did you know the STD's only form
Starting point is 00:09:14 because men couldn't keep their dicks outside of animals like chlamydia's from koalas? And apparently, according to this People magazine, the truth is, yes, a large portion of koalas are infected with chlamydia. However, as Tufts University points out, it's a different strain from the type That infects humans.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah. So I guess we're not sched up in the koalas out in the outback. So it's not from there. See, I worry that... I love the claims. I worry that Love Island would make me depressed for that reason. Certainly. Oh, there's a good helping.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Oh, it is good helping of it. Of knowing that you're part of the problem. And, you know, I feel this way. Every time we watch Secret Lives Mormon Wives, I feel this way when I watch Polly family, we are definitely part of the problem. but I am the exact demographic for it. And right now, I just need it.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I need to feel the pulse of the bombshells entering the villa. Yeah. And I'm so excited. Like yesterday on Wednesdays, they take the night off. And I was so sad because I'm trying to keep up with it. And they also have like an after, like I don't watch the aftersons where they do the talk back. Shear number of hours.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It's like you're auditing like a college class right now. How many hours? What's the time? It's every day. It's six days a week. So it comes out six days a week. What? Six days a week. Yes. So it is a lot. Oh, my. And I'm invested, everyone. I think it's nice. I do think it's fun to have a show of the summer because it makes the summer feel like it has a theme. It makes the summer feel like it has a story and that you're like part of something, even if the something you're part of is just staying home and watching TV. Like, I like that. I had a summer where I just watched so much so you think you can dance. And I like, I like,
Starting point is 00:10:58 I have like, I don't know what else I did that summer, but I'm like, oh yeah, summer up so you think you can dance, you know, so we all, it's just like we need the song, we need the drink, and we do need the show. So, well, especially because I will not be going on this journey with you. I know. And I, you're just going to unfortunately have to hear me. Huda and Jeremiah have been together from the fucking jump. And that is, you know, but then there's starting, love in paradise is difficult.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Uh-huh. And she is a mother and told him, and he took it honestly, flying color. was just like, great, awesome. But I don't think he quite understands the concept of a per... He even said, like, I'm not really going to know until we're out of the villa, but then all of a sudden, like, a week deep, because they're so... It feels like they've been together for such a long time because they have no phones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And they're just staring at each other and just make it out with each other. So, yeah, of course you can't think about life outside of the villa. But there's this one dude named Austin that is... He seems like such a good, nice guy, but I say that. No, I don't, I don't mean that. He's literally sent, he's quoted of saying, sending thousands of nudes by the age of 24. He's slept with hundreds of women. And he, uh, he's a pool cleaner.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And like, he just has the most canonically stupid guy voice. And he, but he tries to communicate. and he tries to be really deep. And it's just so funny. I love a hymbo. That's fine. I think it's so funny. A slutty himbo.
Starting point is 00:12:34 He is a slutty hymbo. And, you know, he thinks going after Shelley is smart, but it's not because she is like a hundred million and I'm sorry, Austin. You're like a 3.5. Wow. Yeah, I said it. Wow. Yeah, I said it.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I can say that about the washboard abs. Can I look up Austin from Love Island and find him? Just put in Love Island USA Season 7 cast. You'll find him. He's got two. cherubs tattooed on his chest. He's not a 3.5? Jesus. Yeah. He's an eight. Watch him talk for many, many hours, MJ, and come back to me and talk to me about him. It has nothing to do with what he looks like. Uh-oh, there's a Daily Beast article.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Maga has entered the Love Island USA Villa. Maybe that's the racist tweets in question. Oh, yeah. Probably. Probably. It's got to be hard to produce a reality show, honestly, with young people at this time because of the, you know, polarization of society. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, society's really been polarizing all about. And I ain't talking about the bears. No, I'm talking about Candace Cameron Bairay. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Let's talk about the demons. Man, we are going to be talking about the demons. Candace Cameron Boree, I mean, if we're going to be discussing people that, I don't know what's going on inside. of their brains. Candace Cameron Bray, obviously, will come up. I do love the fact that I sent you the, MJ sent me the headline of this, this morning, talking about Candace Cameron Bray believes, well, you know what, actually, can we just listen to a clip?
Starting point is 00:14:09 I'd love to listen to the clip. It's going to go and boy. Well, they make fun of me all the time. All the time. But particularly when I'm serious about a spiritual thing happening and then they're rolling their eyes at me like the portal. And I'm like, they laugh at me because of the portal. I'm like, you're opening up a portal.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Like, if you're watching this or you're playing this video game or whatever, like, that's a portal that could let stuff inside our home. Like, I don't even want someone watching a scary movie in our house on the TV because to me, that's just a portal. Listen, I'm in the film industry. I understand how it all works. I know that movie specifically has a crew of 200 people. people and they're lighting it and they're adding the sound effects and it's makeup and camera
Starting point is 00:14:58 people and actors. However, there's still something that can be incredibly demonic while they've made it. And I feel like it's a portal that gets opened up and let in. And that just reminded me like, you posted something a while back about liquid death. And you're like, so do you want to buy a product that is literally being... With death. Cursed. Cursed. All that's going out in the story.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Literally. Literally. Oh, is it literally being cursed? Can we also just say we are big, I'm a big fan of liquid death. And that is such, why bring them out. Like, get out of here, Candace Cameron Bray. What are you talking about? I know it's like a movie and how like it's fake and how I watch.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I definitely know it's all fake, but also like demons. This is my third time listening to the clip in the course of about an hour. And it really does. Like, is she saying, I'm in the film industry, which, first of all, debatable. Debate. Well, she is in her own weird, like, world of what is it called? Like, Christians only for Christians. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Great American homophobic network of Christmas movies. But she's like, so I know how it works. Okay. But still. So she's literally saying, like, I understand that movies are a fiction. And yet also, the demons are real. And I just think that that for a woman who, is in her 40s.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That is very special. It's special the word. Is that the word that we're using today? Oh, is that? Okay, yeah, sure. She's special. Oh, man. And then, of course, my algorithm, immediately upon, after watching that video,
Starting point is 00:16:37 fed me a video of sweet Stephanie Tanner, Jody Sweeten, who is doing like a pride stand-up show benefit this weekend. So, again, to talk about polarization. Polarization of America, look no further than the cast of Full House. because I do think that they have spoken about this. They've been asked about it. Like, how can you guys be friends? One of you is a rampant homophobic and one of you is not.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And I think that they're- And Jody Sweden I love is just like, well, not gonna. Yeah. And it does seem like, which I appreciate, it seems like they've probably amicably don't speak to each other according to the public. But you got to know that Jody Sweet has got to have a couple of fucking feelings about old Candace Cameron.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Well, and especially like, you know, like Eddie said when he was on. I think that the cast is a full house, yes, this is fresh on my mind because yes, me and my children are back to watching Full House, but I think the Full House cast is really so close. We're almost done, man. We just enter the last season.
Starting point is 00:17:35 We just watched the, also we just watched the season finale of the second to last season, which does take place at Disney World, and now my kids want to go to Disney World Oh, no! I'm sorry, MJ. I was like, how do I explain to you that Papa doesn't want to go to Disney World
Starting point is 00:17:50 because he's scared of the entire state. And then Freddie was like, I was like, well, the person in charge of Florida. You can go to Disneyland. Come out here. That's the thing. I told that I was like, the person in charge of Florida doesn't like queer people. And to which Freddie's response was, well, just dress like a man. And that way he won't know you're non-binary.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And I was like, well, that's a great. Thank you, Freddie. Thank you. And also I appreciate you. Thank you for looking out. And I love that. Dude, already an ally. I love it.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But not even on her radar that like two men. together would also be a problem to run to Sanchez, but that's fine. But that, yeah, I was like, we could go to Disneyland. I was like, thank you, MJ. I love that. Thank you. But I was like, we could personally have Eddie Larson as our shepherd through Disneyland, but we would just need to take quite a long flight to get there.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And both kids are like, no problem, fine, fine with us. So there you go. Come on out here. I do want to have you guys escort my family through Disneyland. I think that would be extremely fun. So anyway, thanks Candace Cameron Bray for your role in full house. I guess and nothing else. I'm putting the Disney seat into my mind.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But I do, you know, the fact that she really talks about portals to the extent to which that her children even roll their eyes at her about the portals, this woman needs to be in society less. Because here's the thing, you know, it's not even, and this is saying something, it's not even that I don't believe in portals. Your house must be full of portals, Jackie. I understand the idea of it, but just thinking of it as like, as only a way of demons coming in through the television. That's really where I roll my eyes.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And it's like, literally last week when I watched Hereditary, I was like, you know, demons. I don't really think about demons that often. I was like, are demons that big a deal? But then it's interesting to hear a Christian be like, I'm obsessed with demons. I'm terrified every day of demons. So I was like, okay, I guess demons are a big deal. Hell yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I got demons inside of me, everybody, and they're looking to breed. Get close to my mouth. Let me create a portals. Maybe my mouth is a portal. And everyone should be scared. And even you listening, you know what? Right now, portal, you just got portled. Every podcast is a portal.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yes, I just literally put a demon inside of your ears. And I hope that you carry me with you like I'm a worm that lives inside of your brain like your RFK. And I think that, you know, keep me with you. That's all insane. Yeah. And isn't that nice? It's kind of like I'm a tick, but like I don't give Lyme disease, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Burrowed into your flesh. Well, I want to talk about something that is actually nice, which is this really nice, extremely sweet and fun. And everyone's making it weird again, variety profile of Walton Gagans and Amy Lou Wood. Oh, man. They are, which, you know, all right, M.J. read through all of this. How are we feeling up top? So it's Walton Gagans, Amy Lou Wood. of course, everyone, if you were not following the story,
Starting point is 00:20:52 everyone thought that they had an affair while they were shooting. And then there was all the fallout where they stopped following each other. And then, you know, Walton Goggins' wife came out and was just like, I'm glad that my husband's a really good actor. Dug, you step off. And now they're coming out with this piece. Do you feel that it was all, I mean, obviously it's a PR thing. but do you feel that the emotions were a PR thing?
Starting point is 00:21:19 I don't know. Like, I know that I have the ability to be played by, like a fiddle by a PR if it's somebody that I like. Like I... Same. I will play me. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And I'm just like, I mean, everything with Timothy, Shamel, I'm a ding-dong, Kylie, Jenner. I'm just like, oh, look at that. Aw. Totally. So I just want to say that that, yes, I can, I will happily be played. But, you know, the, I think that this story is just resonating with me because it was so much about the parissocial projection from White Lotus fans onto them.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And it became this, you know, the way that social media works now interacting with real media is that there's just always these things like spinning, spinning off. And so it was like, you know, it started with him having, after the. the finale, having this nice post about her, and then people being like running with it and endless speculation about how they must have been fucking. And actually, I saw that this variety piece came out and I was like, oh, that's nice, but I don't, you know, I don't really need to read the whole long thing. But then in the blinds, there was a blind that was like, well, if anybody doubted they were fucking, the variety piece surely confirms that they were fucking. And it's just, it's just such a wild takeaway from it. And also like, so basically the, the,
Starting point is 00:22:44 variety pieces just like about them. They see each other. They like meet up to hang out for the first time like since White Lotus Ramped. And because he's been really busy on what show is he doing right now. He's in everything. I mean, he's just all over the place. So he like wasn't there with the whole rest of the cast to watch.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Oh, he's on fallout. He's been working 70 hour weeks on fallout. So he wasn't there with everybody to watch the season finale. And he just kind of like finished filming and then like went off. And so all of this like post white Lotus finale. Ali, you know, media cycle has been really, like, hard on Wood. And he was just kind of like, yeah, I mean, he's a more experienced actor. He's more seasoned.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So he kind of just, like, went off and didn't really, like, think about it. But then, so the piece really just, it's like them catching up and then, like, talking about some of the controversies. So, like, for example, there was this controversy that after the Saturday Night Live sketch that made fun of Amy Lou Wood, she shared that, like, she was hurt. by it, but then, like, a few hours later, he shared it and was like, how funny. How funny it was. And then everyone was like, oh, like, a lover's quarrel or whatever. And what actually happened was that, like, he hadn't seen that she didn't like it because
Starting point is 00:24:00 he's a very busy person who's not spending a lot of time on social media. And then he had just, he saw the sketch and he shared it. And he was like, oh, this is like a fun sketch. And then when he saw that she was upset about it, he was like, oh, no. And then he deleted his post. And he was like, I'm so sorry I didn't realize. And so then when he said yes to SNL, there was another whole thing of like, is it a fuck you to Amy Lou Wood that he's doing SNL? Amy Lou Wood must be so hurt. And she's like, of course he should do SNL. Yeah, of course he should. Yes. And her problem with the sketch wasn't like, she didn't, she didn't hate the entire sketch. She was like, it was fine and some of it was funny and like make fun of my teeth shouldn't have been the punchline.
Starting point is 00:24:41 She's like, make fun of me, but don't make fun of my, like, just the teeth. And she was like, the quote is, uh, I know for a fact a man wrote that. I didn't like the concept. Take the piss on me. Do the teeth. I've got the teeth. But like, and then Gagan says, you have the most beautiful smile in the world. You know that.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And she says, thank you. The punchline should not be how I look. That's what bothered be. Do the caricature because that's what SNL is. But it felt misogynistic. It felt like the punchline was a woman's appearance, which is not funny. It's not cool. And then Gagin says, here it is everybody.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And so he. It's just like, it's just a fun, like, having the viewpoint that we have of, like, seeing what, you know, the headlines are, seeing what the blinds say, but then also just seeing what the social media kind of response to things is. Yes. And what the Paris, like, what people want to put, like, there's such this desire now, I think, to, like, be the internet, the way that people talk about, like, people being internet detectives for, like, true crime stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Right. I think that there's also a little bit of that in pop culture, like, being internet detectives for, actually they are fucking. And I just enjoyed, and yes, of course this is PR. And of course they are carefully constructing what they are putting out in this variety profile. But at the same time, I just enjoyed like hearing it from each of them and hearing them talk to each other about it and being like, you know, right. One Instagram post now gets turned into this kind of days long speculation. and I just, it was enlightening having kind of watched the whole thing over the course of months and being like, I think that this is like literally all spin and and and usually spin means like media companies putting spin on it, but this is like organic spin.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Right. And like I don't know if that's better. I think it might be worse. Like the, again, the parissocial kind of obsession. And so I really enjoyed just this like accounting of the two of them like hanging out and chatting about what. what it's been like. I feel like honestly, what really screams volumes is even just the line when they're taking a break and they're going to go both step outside for a second. And I think it's like Amy Lee Wood is like, we can't start crying. We can't go out there and just start crying because
Starting point is 00:26:53 they were so happy to like talk and connect with each other. Because of what it seems like is that they are both very sensitive, emotionally communicative people. And when you get two people like that together. And I understand as someone who is also one of those people, and also many actors are that way, so it makes sense that they are both at that. Yes. And for them to connect in that level is such a deeper connection with already. You know, them talking about this where it's like, it's also a situation that not a lot of actors are in where they are shooting and it's not that they're shooting on a set and when it's not reality. They said that it felt like reality. living, yeah, that they're living in the space.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Totally. That they're also, because I was reading about how, like, Patrick Sorchenegger apparently loved to have, like, group dinners and big group breakfast. But they wouldn't go. And they would stay separate from everybody and just, like, grab food and then leave just the two of them. Totally. And Gagins likes to be, like, Gagins likes to be totally on his own.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And he's like, I'm not trying to be method. I'm not trying to be, like, annoying. But that's just what works best for me. But then Amy Lou Wood was like, you, I could, like, see you. you, like, if you were to stay alone and you would, like, enter, like, kind of the darkness of this character you were playing all the time. Again, not in, like, a Jeremy Strong way, but just in, like, a, you are this incredibly, you know, emotional, you know, person who is spending all this time and this space. And so she was like, so I didn't want to, like, leave you alone. And also
Starting point is 00:28:22 another interesting thing is, yeah, they all kind of potted off in, because of the filming schedules, they all spent time with the, like, the three women, the three women in their 50s on vacation together, spent time together, spent all their off time together because that was when their shooting schedule, they had their off time together. Same with the North Carolina family had all their off time together and then the Ratliff's, and then Amy Lou Wood and Walton Goggins had all of their time off together. So they did spend a ton of time together. Oh yeah. And yeah, it's, and my, my favorite, quote from the profile is Amy Lou Wood says, in watching all of the, you know, the kind of, insane spin after the show finale.
Starting point is 00:29:05 She says, this is an important moment for me because what I would usually do is see it and turn the anger inward. I thought, and she was also talking about the SNL sketch. So she said, I thought, I'm just going to say it so that I don't spiral. And Gagin said, that's self-love. But, like, I love that of her being like, usually if somebody's saying something bad about me, I just turn it towards myself and hate myself. But instead, I'm willing to just say outwardly, I don't like this. And then I can move on.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Good for you. And I, Good for you, bitch. And just to have beautiful goggins next to you being like, that's self-love, baby. Oh, my God. And yes, whatever, it's PR, but I do find them to be an absolute delight together. So got that gagin me, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Got that gagin me as well. Oh, baby. Man, everybody loves when I wear the shirt. No one is uncomfortable about it. It's just such a huge picture of his face on the shirt. but um and it's black and bright pink so uh it really it's you know it's subtle i think i need to get it every time you talk about it i want and he's not going anywhere i mean gagan's here just fucking stay so get that goggin and finally we have just a few episodes left of the previous season of
Starting point is 00:30:17 righteous gemstones which we are finally back on hell yeah finally finished severance after and or rogue one marathon that took way too long because i got falling asleep we have finished We have finished Andorra season two. We've finished Rogue One, finished severance. So now we're finishing the previous season of Righteous Gemstones so that we can get into the newest season of Righteous gemstones. Get back on the Gog train. And I'm so happy because I'm not attracted to Uncle Baby Billy, but I now know I am attracted to the man underneath him. And you know, honestly, you kind of get more attracted.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I feel like that because he's wild gogag, it's like, you wait. Once you get to Tienjus, I feel like then you'll be like, oh, I could fuck. Baby Billy. I don't know if I'd be able to call him Baby Billy, but I think I'd have to come up with something different. But, you know, that's just coming from one sweet Italian to a hot Italian. And yeah, I'm talking about speaking a merch. Okay, guys, yes, I have the most perfect husband in all the land. And yes, we are celebrating Flag Day over the weekend because I will say it's also Father's Day. So we're going to celebrate Flag Day over the weekend. And we, rather than having a time actually celebrating what Flag Day is about, which is the day that we adopted the American Flag,
Starting point is 00:31:39 instead, we are all dressing up as different flags and representing our favorite flags. I like that. And I am coming in hot, Italian flag. You know it. I've got my outfit going. I'm coming in hard. but Jeff was like, I actually got you something for your birthday that I think would really work with this outfit. So I'm going to give it to you now. And so he brought out gold earrings with script words on them. And it just says sausage on the earrings. And then he got me a script gold necklace. I mean, it's not gold.
Starting point is 00:32:13 You know, like it looks gold. And that says sweet Italian on it. And I did immediately open it and was like, oh, it was like, did they have hot Italian? And he's like, they were sold out. I was waiting for the hot Italian to come back in. He's like, but I figured you were, I was like, man, I would love to have both. But here's the thing. He got it from the Seymour Sausage site.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And Seymour Sausage has sent me in the past sausages before, just apropos of nothing, just because they're amazing. Just because you're a hot dog ambassador of the Southwesterns of the United States. And Seymour sausages, I genuinely do purchase them in my life. I love Seymour sausages. And apparently they also have bangin merch. But to the point that Jeff has said, I'm not allowed to look at the Seymour merch site. But he didn't say that MJ couldn't.
Starting point is 00:33:07 So MJ, if you, you don't have to tell me what's going on on the Seymour merch site because I imagine I'm going to be receiving more things. But could you just like, you know, could we get like a promo for people? You know, I don't need, I don't need to push it. I just, it's such great meat merch. If you need your own sweet Italian or hot Italian sausage necklace or your sausage hoops, you're going to want to go to eat see more.com slash collections. It's spelled see more like seeing with your eyes.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And, you know, there is more merch, but I got to say, I think Jeff started off strong. I want more. I want more merch, even more. Give me more. See more. Give us more. I'm also saying this as a way to be like, if you put that hot Italian necklace back up there, I'm a, I mean, come on. We're going to sell them.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Well, you're in luck because, no, sweet Italian is still there. Yeah, hot Italian is sold out. I'm guessing that the cast of the Jersey Shore bought them out. I have to have. I hope they did. And if they didn't, they needed. I mean, the fact that, you know, you've got the inco-coccus. And if you can get a shirt this says, Inso-Coccus, with the situation as a cartoon on it, there's got to be.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Like, they must have every Italian merch that exists. Well, but to that point, I got my Incaucus shirt from the Situation Store, which has about 500 items in it. You will be shocked when you see how many items, Mike, the situation sells at the Situation store. But Seymour Meats and Veggies, you can tell that they're really focusing. on their sausages because, again, their sausage merch is not as abundant as the situation store. But that's okay because I think that they do something and they do it well. You know, and I do it well. And I do feel it's also important to say that originally I did want to dress as a flag from
Starting point is 00:35:07 Argentina. And that is because Jeff, of course, knows a lot of facts about flags. And I was like, Jeff, tell me about fun flags. And he told me about the Argentinian flag. And what's cool about it is that in the center, so it's a horizontal triband of light blue, white and light blue. And in the center, there is something called the sun of May, the Sol de Mayo, which is a golden sun with a brown border. But you know how we have to like properly fold the American flag in a certain way? With them, how they do it is they bunch up the flag underneath.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So when they're holding it, it looks like you're just holding the sun. Oh, that's fun. And that's what, and like that's how they, and that's how like it is given and shared. And I was like, that's awesome. So if I, I just didn't want to go buy a light blue and white dress or something because I just, honestly, it's just not really colors that I wear. So I just didn't want to do that. That was the only reason.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. This is tough because I do support celebrating this summer by exploring other flags besides the one of our own country. And I think that's a wise idea. not feeling the most patriotic right now in Los Angeles. Why? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But I also, it would be weird. Can we just say there are many ways to support, by the way. There are many ways to support besides just protesting. There are many ways that we can help and there are many and just. Bail funds. Bail funds. Bail funds.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And I will be posting more bail funds. National Lawyers Guild, L.A. or your local National Lawyers Guild, always right. National Lawyers Guild. Phone number on your arm. before you go to a protest. They are trying to round up. They are trying to get us to look bad.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah. It's just weak. I'm sorry, this is not the time. And remember there is, I just cheered this meme. It's not. A great post today that there is, this is not about good protesters and bad protesters. Certain protesters will be policed violently no matter how they protested. And so this is about how the, this is about the reaction to the protesters, not the protesters
Starting point is 00:37:12 themselves. No. But it would be weird if you started wearing. the Argentinian flag around, Jackie. I'm just going to say it. It would be weird. Unless you are Argentinian in a way that I don't know. I mean, we would be celebrating Flag Day.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And, like, I would be doing it, you know, like, in celebration. Like, and I would learn more about the flag. On Flag Day. You could, you could, you could, I just, I'm just saying, if you were to suddenly become, like, an Argentinian flag. Enthusiast. Yeah. I don't think that.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I don't think I'm going to go down that road. Like, if I start, yeah, I just start, get, like, every time. I'm like, but it's the sun. But look at me. And it's just. everywhere, but I'm not currently enthusiastic about my own government, so I haven't taken the Argentinian flag. Yeah, man, and you know, maybe it legitimately put a demon inside of me. Maybe the flag was a portal and I don't even know. It's a portal. Maybe every flag is a portal and we don't
Starting point is 00:38:00 know. So that's kind of fun. But do you think that Katie Perry opened up a portal when she had a child eat cotton candy off of her shoe? It's just what is the woman? Yeah, what's her thing? With shoes. What's her thing? Can we get hold of McNeely in here to talk about it? Because I know he doesn't like feet. I think that she presented, look, here's the quote, Perry presented the girl with her shoe, this is at one of her shows. During a show, by the way. During a show, which looked as if it were trapped at a hurricane of cotton candy. Want some? She asked, pulling off a piece of what did seem to be real candy. The kids stared back at her, confused and overwhelmed, unsure if she was supposed to eat this famous woman's shoe. This, after years after the fruit scented flip-flops, I
Starting point is 00:38:45 There's also, did you see this is a little sad? There is a story this week also about their divorce. Orlando Bloom and Katie Perry are spending much less time together. It is so, man, you know, oftentimes we love our japes here. And, you know, Katie Perry, we've really heaped in an honor. We have. Now it, now it has actually gotten to a point that I'm like, man. And also, like, imagine your.
Starting point is 00:39:15 While going through all of this, your partner is also like, oh. And I imagine it probably might not have anything to do with everything that's going on. But also, if I were dealing with what Katie Barry is dealing with, I can't imagine I'd be my best self in a relationship. Yeah. Yeah. And I imagine it's trying. You know, the exception to this does seem to be, to their credit, Hilaria and Alec Baldwin, who seem to thrive. They love it even more.
Starting point is 00:39:41 When I'm talking, you're not talking. When I am talking, you're not talking. And they love it. Alex loves being cucked by his wife. Like he thrives on it. And some people do. Good for them. And yes, he loves her to be upset and then to insist that she's not upset and use him in her
Starting point is 00:39:56 videos to show she's not upset. He's like, use me, baby. And I'm happy for him. They do, I will say that the Baldwin's truly do seem to enjoy being married to each other. They do. And yeah, no, this is, I, now I, because I felt absolutely righteous in, in making fun of Katie Perry this entire time. including and especially for going to space.
Starting point is 00:40:17 But the cotton candy shoe thing, we just needed to bring it up because we spent so many years screaming about the fruit flip flops. The fruit scented flip flops. And it's just what is up with you, girl? But also to invite, there's something about how, like I know that it's still like a cute thing, but that's got to be so scary.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Like think about a kid's perspective of being brought up on stage with Petty Perry and then something like, I would be mortified. I think that like, I think that... I know she didn't mean anything by it. No, it's totally.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's trying to be cute. I think that honestly, Tay with the hat at Erez did it well. Like one little girl per show gets like a really special moment. But she doesn't have to go on stage. You're right. And I'm not saying that she was like cribbing the Tay moment,
Starting point is 00:41:03 but I just realized that she's trying to get... Yeah. It's all PR. Jackie. It's all PR. It's obviously, it's a viral. She was trying to do something. like that where it's like the connection. But then it's just like the kid didn't get the hat.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But it wasn't the like magical moment that Taylor Swift gave every child at every moment of like her shows. You have to eat Katie Perry's shoe. Yeah. But then honestly, once I saw that Orlando Bloom headline, I was like, okay, I am silently filing Katie Perry into the column of too sad to make fun of anymore. So I yeah. Are we really?
Starting point is 00:41:39 Are we getting there? I think we're getting there. I can't believe that we. pushed it this. I mean, not us individually, but that that society, you know, I, yeah, I feel bad. We truly aim to have worthy targets here on the show. I know that we don't always succeed, but we try to really only make fun of people who we feel like either have done something worthy of scorn or are so, so, so large that it's, you know, it's like, you know, water off a duck's back. But, um, I mean, even, I will say, this is not anything we need to get into, but like,
Starting point is 00:42:11 down to going along with what you were just saying. I saw this headline says, Brooke Shields' podcast interview, criticizing Megan Markle, mysteriously removed. So it's also, you know, Brooke Shields was like, you know what, we went too far.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, I guess that sometimes you go too far or sometimes, like, I, and sometimes the mouth says some things that you're just like, why would I? So I don't know if that's necessarily the case or if it was something that, you know, that her people went out and forced it to be.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Who knows? Taken down. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. There's a, there's, you know, there's, I, I, we were talking earlier about parisocial things. You also included this link about John Mullaney talking about how people's, you know, obviously, everybody knows there's been lots of really strong reactions to Malini over the past few years
Starting point is 00:43:03 because he got a divorce. And he was like a wife guy before he got a divorce. And there was like, I think that was him breaking up with his. wife was or that breakup was the first time I heard the word parisocial. Like I think he's kind of like the ultimate example of like a parasit or everyone was like, but you're a wife guy. You can't get divorced, you know. And yeah, it's just I, we are in a, we're in an interesting, having done this show for so many years, I feel like we are now at this interesting time where like the fever pitch of like a parasycial response to a celebrity
Starting point is 00:43:39 is as loud as the actual PR that the celebrity is putting out. Like, I wasn't even going to bring this up just, but now that we're talking about it, the whole, like, Olivia Munn came out and said that she doesn't let her kids watch Miss Rachel because she's annoyed by Miss Rachel. Because she said the song, little toddler songs are annoying, which is her right.
Starting point is 00:43:58 She's like, if I don't want to watch it, then my kids aren't going to watch it. Yeah. It had nothing to do with all of the politics and everything. But it was, like, she did say it in a time that I don't think she knew or was aware of everything it's going on with Ms. Rachel right now. I wish she hadn't said that only because Ms. Rachel is under such attack, but she said it
Starting point is 00:44:15 in a very politically neutral way. And she's got very young kids. Maybe she's not keeping up with it. And maybe she did not know that Ms. Rachel just doesn't need that right now. And even Miss Rachel came out on and was like, could you at least talk about the great things? Like, I understand if you don't want to watch, could you at least support. But now John Malini yesterday put up a post that was like, the death threats to my wife and my children need to stop. Oh my God, really? This was not like they are, they are being ripped
Starting point is 00:44:43 apart, like that she is like whether or not she is pro the genocide and all of it. It's a complete misunderstanding. It has completely blown up and it's just, yeah, yeah. No, this was, and Miss Rachel was like, Miss Rachel saw the headline about Olivia Munn doesn't like Miss Rachel. And Miss Rachel was like, could you cover the things I'm doing like advocating for children? and then yeah and then now it's turned into this whole thing of like Olivia Munn hates Miss Rachel but because of what Miss Rachel is doing and getting all this all these smear campaigns and accused of being Hamas and et cetera so now Miss Rachel I saw it today Miss Rachel had a post that was like please leave Olivia and her beautiful family alone. Alone. She was like and she, you know, I think very gracefully was like she has every right to say what she said. I was criticizing the media coverage of it and every media loves to see a fight between two women.
Starting point is 00:45:38 and you're not going to get it. Olivia and I have spoken. We are fine. Yes, because even Olivia Munn, then they spoke individually but then also publicly, Olivia Munn also came out to Ms. Rachel and our fans. I hear and respect the passion mind of your support. I never anticipated the media would single out one
Starting point is 00:45:54 small thing I said and distort it like they have. My comments were never meant to diminish the joy, comfort, and impact she brings to so many families. Every parent understands the importance of finding meaningful programming that helps connect with our case. Why? It's just like, it was just an awful. Like, she's annoyed by Ms. Rachel. Also, I would never let my children watch Cayu. You know how I feel about Cayew.
Starting point is 00:46:14 The sound of Cayu's voice sends me into a rage. Everybody's got that. Every parent, anybody has watched kids, has that. Everyone is allowed to be annoyed by, to have their children's entertainment, you know, bitch eating crackers that they don't like. That's totally fine. It was just very unfortunate that because, but again, because Miss Rachel is embroiled in this absolute psychotic coverage of accusing her of being funded by Hamas because she had a three-year-old amputee from Gaza on her show. So yeah, no, there's a, it's, I, you know, I don't. And honestly, this other story that you said, Jackie, about how Blake Lively was, was shopping. And she was rude to the store workers.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And this was all, like, done by, on TikTok, like, this woman was like, I was just in a store. And Blake Lively was rude. and then that gets its own whole, like, you know, media cycle. And of course, it's all like page six and whatever. I think the Olivia Munn's story was people. And so I know that these are like what the rags do. Of course, tablets are also in me and Jackie's mind because we're reading Prince Harry's Spare. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I just, I don't know if you know this, but he was the spare, all right? There was the air and then there was a spare and he's very upset about it. Okay. And it's, you know, he has every right to be mad about how tabloids have treated him and his family. and that's, but like, we're just in this really, I don't know, I don't know where, I guess I'm, I find, we're at this moment. I feel like we're at this cultural moment where I don't know where the, what the conclusion is, where TikTok and social media have like flattened the distance between celebrities and regular people in this way where people's response to a celebrity is now as much of a story as whatever the celebrity said. And like I used to, you know, 10, 15 years ago, I thought it was good to have that to flatten those. hierarchies. And now I'm just like, where does this end? Like, I really, I really don't know. It's an open question. Where does it like, and I, you know. Because it seems like even what, like,
Starting point is 00:48:17 with this viral video of this woman talking about Blake lively, it does, and I'm saying, I'm not, you know, I'm not over here pro Blake lively or like, I'm not, I don't have her up on a pedestal. But it does seem like, it seemed like she was just asking for a private bathroom for her and her children, which, you know, she's in a very fancy store. I understand that like wanting something that is separate from everyone, I guess if you were in that place, you know. Yeah, I'm never, I also feel like everyone is so looking for her. Like, can you imagine being under that amount of a microscope that everyone's waiting for you to fuck up in anyway? Anytime there's a story of some random person observing a celebrity and then making a huge general statement
Starting point is 00:49:01 about how that celebrity treats their kids. Like this claim that Blake lively was ignoring her kids. I just, I get real skeptical about that. It reminds me of, and this is a real deep cut, but you remember that time there was that really funny, cute viral video of the little girl like bashing into her dad's interview on the BBC. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And then the mom reached in and like in a panic and like pulled her out. And there was this huge response cycle of like, it's an abusive relationship. That mom was acting, that woman was acting terrified of her husband. And like she was just like, I just didn't want her to interrupt the interview on the BBC. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:36 We're a loving family, you know. And like, so I don't know. I just feel like if you catch me on any given day in my neighborhood and you saw me like a parisocial weirdo from across the block and we're like, MJ's ignoring their kids. Like it's quite possible you might catch me in a moment where my kids are yelling something and I'm focused on something else and I'm not immediately responding to them. So like this, again, this like flattening. And I'm not saying celebrities should be above criticism at all.
Starting point is 00:50:01 shouldn't be. But like, I don't know. I just don't like the, like, care, like, let's, let's accuse Blake lively of being a bad mother because I saw her in a store. Like, I just, I just don't think that that, I don't think that there should be whole multiple news cycles about that, you know? No, and it's just, it gets, like, especially, when you see so many headlines that are just about the reaction of the internet about what's happened, like to a moment. Yes. Just, just, just like an off-handed thing and how it spirals.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And it's just like, there's so many things going on. You know what I mean? That like there are certain times you can go down the worm time of following of like, yeah, I bet she's rude every worker. I'm going to find every TikTok about it. It's like, yeah, we all, you know, get on little witch hunts by ourselves,
Starting point is 00:50:52 but it's what you do with it, you know? But I do that by myself. We love a late night private witch hunt. Yeah, we don't need to make it other people's problems. No, we don't need to make another meal. like you would do it by yourself sure oh no i mean i'm guilty of that for sure absolutely especially with everything that's been going on with my lee because right now mylie cyrus is all over the PR cycle because she just had an album drop and um something beautiful and it is a it is a great album but it really isn't
Starting point is 00:51:19 i guess i was looking to it because the gaga album really got me like in my craw that i was like all right new myley let's fucking go dude it's pride month let's fucking like let's get like let's get some fucking dancey songs in here and it is more of a low key album oh yeah like i feel it like i mean i love mylie cyrus so i'm down and i'm going to continue listening to anything that she does yeah but i was watching this speaking of going down a worm time by myself talking about like i guess it's not a conspiracy theory but like the theory of that mylie's music is so much more bumped up when she's going through a tumultuous time period in her love life and how that, you know, is represented in her music. And of course, that's not like
Starting point is 00:52:06 a new concept. I understand that that's something that songwriters have been doing since the beginning of time. But again, we were talking about the Weasel Boy earlier this week. And I'm just like, he's fulfilling you enough. Get me a bangers. I wanted other bangers. Yeah, she had this whole, this. More plastic hearts. I'll take more plastic hearts. This story about how she like put herself. She was like trying to put herself in a box after when she was with Liam to be like after bangers to be like everybody thought that I was so crazy and so sexual and so like shameful and there was so much bloodshaming that when I did younger now, the album, the quote is for younger now, the album I, the reason I like played into this innocence was because I think it was a way to keep
Starting point is 00:52:52 and a way to stay if I'm younger now that I'm less awake as this sexual woman, sexual woman publicly. And this is going to be the way I can keep a happy home. So she was like, I think Liam Hemsworth wanted me to be like less like loud and slutty in public. And honestly, if you don't like me at my loud and slutty in public, then you don't deserve me at my young house. Yes. Yes. You know, fuck off Liam Hemsworth. Slice, lies, lies, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Don't be with Miley Cyrus if you can't handle her being loud and slutty in public. It is a part of her. Yes, it is. And don't make her feel small. It's an important part of her. But you see, don't make her feel small. But also, Miley, don't make other people feel small either. It kind of, like, I understand that she was joking, but it's just like, man, we don't need the joke of, like, making fun of Jojo Siwa for, quote, unquote, going back into the closet.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, yeah, I don't like that. It's just, come on. Like, I know that it's, like, obviously coming from Miley that just. Well, and Miley identifies as pansexual, doesn't she? Yes. She said, enjoy coming out of the closet if this pride is the time for you, have an amazing. pride. All right, I'm going to get a, I'm going to get some more pretzels and find JoJo Siwa and bring her back out is what the, and it wasn't, it's not, you know, devastating. It's
Starting point is 00:54:10 not a devastating. Like, I'm not saying she tried to burn her to the ground or anything like that. Like, I don't think it was trying to come off. Like, I think it was just supposed to be a joke. I think if they were, I think you could make that joke about like your best friend that you're both pansexual and you're both dating a man. And that could be a joke that you're both in on. Like, oh, we both like, you can both do that joke yourself if you're both. in on it. Which I was hoping maybe it's like, well, you know that like they must run in at least kind of similar circles. Yeah, similar. But then Jojo Siwa came out and no, they're not. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. And it's her feelings for her. And it just, it sucks. Don't do a,
Starting point is 00:54:42 don't do a, don't do a, we don't, we don't, we, we, we, we, especially, it's like, especially, with everything going on, come on. Like, we got it. We have to lift each other up. Especially. We need to support each other. Because I finally got so much shit when she came out as as pansexual. And I was so proud of her. So why are you going to do that to someone else? Yeah, no, I know I did an accidental bi-arasure on Riverdale Roundup, and it haunts me. And I live in with a mission now of not doing a bi-arasure. And so, Miley, you don't, you have been bi-araced. Don't do it to someone else.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah, I think that's a joke that you could share with a friend if the friend is totally okay with it and in on it. But it is not something you can do. And poor Jo-Joe, she's having, she's very much now in our column of not making fun of her because she's just getting there, just getting too much shit. Too much is happening to Jojo. Let Jojo fuck around like a 21-year-old shit. I can't imagine trying to figure all this shit out in front of it, millions and millions and millions of people. You know, just like, it's already so difficult trying to find yourself and doing it in front of so much. Like, I know, I know, I know, I understand that we can't replace all child actors with AI. I know that it's bad. I know it's bad. I know it's bad. I know
Starting point is 00:55:56 way bye is bad. You know I know it's bad. It's just I feel I can't imagine, not only can I not imagine going through it. I can't imagine encouraging my kids to want to go through it. Just, even just like we experience on such a small scale. And even that. God, could you imagine? No, I keep thinking about this Jeanette McCurdy quote from her book when we read it for celebrities where Jeanette McCurdy was like, the very nature of youth is that you are. are supposed to move through it and not stay there forever. And that's the fundamental tension with a child star is that nobody can deal with, everybody wants to put them where they are and have them stay there.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And so as they change, everyone freaks out. And it was like, I hadn't heard it articulated that. It is to be a young person is to be completely in conflict with having a public image. Because to be young is to experiment, is to make mistakes, is to try on different identities. it is not just something that's okay to do. It is, you must. Yes. Part of it.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yes. And then, but then it's like, oh, well, look at you now. You're doing this weird, twerking with Robin Thick. And we should have been mad at Robin Thick about that. We shouldn't have been mad at Miley about that, you know. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And, man, remember how much we talked about her tongue?
Starting point is 00:57:15 Remember the tongue wagging? Like, we really, we were, man, we've been doing this a long time. Let her stick out her tongue. Yeah. Let her stick out her tongue, man. Yeah. Let her stick out her tongue, man. wild as Tom Cruise
Starting point is 00:57:26 getting into the Guinness Book of World Records. Oh my God, he's like such a jumpest and he's such a parachutist. And like, wow. I just, I was talking to Adam who recently rewatched all of the Mission Impossible movies leading up to the newest Mission Impossible, the last Mission Impossible.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I did ask, you know, should I do this? Is this a journey? Should I go on this? Because you know I'm willing to go on it. You're willing to put that much time into Love Island. You're willing to watch all the Mission Impossible. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Adam, what did you say? Don't do it. Yeah, so that's the word on the street is that apparently it's don't do it. Don't do it. Just with this latest Mission Impossible or with all of them? Should Jackie have like a Mission Impossible athon and then stop before the newest one? It's too much. I got really angry at the end.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I was just like I could have watched so many other things. Yeah. I get too much about like completing something. you know, in total. And it was a bad idea. I just don't like them. I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I, I, I, I, I, I, the thing is that there's no one in this world whose opinion on movies I trust more than Adam. Yeah. And that is, because it's like, if it was fun, like, if you, if it's given, like, I was, I've only, I think I've seen the first one. It was fine. You know, that's all the one. But there's like a million of them.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And I, you know, I had such a blast with fast and the Fast and the Fast and the Fast and the Fast and the action franchise. I love an action franchise. I love. of an action franchises, especially when it starts jump of the shark, which, of course, speaking of shark, you know I'm going to go see dangerous animals this weekend, which is a shark serial killer, but I tried to explain to MJ earlier. It's not a shark that is a serial killer, is a serial killer that enjoys sharks. So why is it called dangerous animals if it's not a shark who's a
Starting point is 00:59:10 serial killer? Sounds like the human is the dangerous animal. MJ, it sounds like the human is the dangerous animal and I can't wait to watch him feed women to sharks. But this apparently is not the case. And that, uh, I guess, I guess, the plot really wends and weaves in a way of with Mission Impossible that is difficult to follow. And like if it's a, because the thing is, Tom Cruise, we know, top of his craft when it comes to stunts. And if it was worth it to see the stunts, I would also watch it. Yeah, I mean, he is, the story is he has officially set the record for the most burning parachute jumps by an individual after jumping out of the helicopter. 16 times with a fiery shoot.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Set him on fire again. I say he just, anytime he leaves the house, we set him on fire and see if he can make it to the car. But like, in a phone, obviously he's used to it. Like,
Starting point is 01:00:05 you're going for the gold of a Guinness Book World Records. Like, you should be doing this all the time. Yeah. I had a fun moment yesterday with some playground dads where they were talking about Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 01:00:15 And I was like, did you see a meat and popcorn? Ah, yeah. And so I think, if anything, I hope that page seven can at least provide you with like a fun little joke for some playground dads.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And one of the playground dads was like, you bet I saw I'm eating popcorn. And so we had a laugh. That's such a fun dad laugh. Yeah, it's about as good as it gets, you know? Yep. With Tom Cruise. Oh, but you don't bring up the fish fucking. Do you directly enter into the fish fucking?
Starting point is 01:00:40 I have brought up the fish fucking at the playground. Really? At the playground. What do they think? Only with a trusted, with a trusted playground parent, you can bring up the fish fucking, but you got to be careful. That's scary. You got to really know. You got to know your audience. I feel like trying to debut.
Starting point is 01:00:53 you the fish fucker theory to a new friend is a leveling up of a friendship that are like, are we ready for this? Like, can I do this? Like, will they understand me? But also, though, is that not a great test to find out if someone can handle you or not? Yeah, that's the thing. If you can joke about the fish fucking with a new friend, you know you found like a new person for your inner, your inner realm.
Starting point is 01:01:16 You're welcome. You just got a new litmus test. Start using it in your life and start testing the waters. I would say don't do it with like, I don't know. know, like a boss or something. You know, that's, don't start there. No. But just start at the playground.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah. And if you don't have a kid, just show up at the playground. Start talking to people about Tom. That, I guess that's a little bit of a pederasty. You'll be removed by security. Removed from the playground because we're not supposed to go to playground. It is very funny because. Technically, it's illegal to go to a playground without a child in New York City. It's very uncomfortable because we oftentimes will go.
Starting point is 01:01:50 It's like we have a couple of friends with kids and like I'll go to. to like have coffee and I'll meet up with my friend, like with the kids at the playground. So a bunch of us will like, we'll bring like snacks and stuff. And then it's just, you know, eight people that don't have children with the one child and we're all just like playing with the one kid.
Starting point is 01:02:11 But then of course we end up like adopting other children in the play. And then the parents are just like, take them. Yeah. Then you sit with my coffee. Take them. All that the parents are thrilled. My brother is always in such a panic. If I ask him to meet us at the playground,
Starting point is 01:02:23 and he gets there first because he's like, I'm going to get arrested. No, it is. I'll bet that all the other parents are like, how nice that adults are having a nice time. This is just like that story that you sent about the man who saw Lilo and Stitch alone. Man, and everybody was upset about it. A mom went online to complain that a man was seeing Lilo and Stitch alone. Again, can we let people live? Now, listen, there is a very good reason that adults are not allowed alone at playgrounds. That completely understand.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You know me. I don't, there's not a lot of laws that I love, okay? But I understand the reasoning behind this law. You should be able to know that when you're going to a playground, everybody, every adult who's there is there because they are with a kid. I think that's a reasonable baseline to set. I don't think that that, first of all. I do like the line.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Man watches film alone whilst eating snacks. Normal. Someone goes to the cinema with their child and sits on their phone bitching about the other cinema goers. You're the weird one. Yeah. Yeah. This mom was like, saw this man at Lilo and Stitch alone and posted about it and was like, am I the weird one? Am I the weird one?
Starting point is 01:03:31 And the answer is, yes, I think. Especially with Lilo and Stitch, which is a, you know, I always forget, it's not a reboot. It's a remake, the remake, live action remake. Yeah, live action remake. And it has a whole fandom. But also most, like, lots of the people that love Lilo and Stitch are now adults because the other one came out when we were much younger. Totally.
Starting point is 01:03:51 So of course there's going to, oh. So besides the fact of like, even if it was just a kids movie, like, it's also a beloved movie from people that are also older. From a generation ago. So why are you going to freak out? You're so right. What is wrong with you? I get.
Starting point is 01:04:04 And I think that if there was a man alone like at a Miss Rachel live concert, maybe you would be like, that's a little strange. That's a little strange. But, you know. I would judge. You don't want like a man alone at like your local library story hour, perhaps. Like, I understand. I understand skepticism.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Unless they're reading the story. You know, and then it's fine. And, you know, like, but, yeah, like I understand. You don't want creepy adults in your children's faces. Totally makes sense. But I do feel like they're, you could just let the man live. He's not bothering you.
Starting point is 01:04:37 He's not being creepy. He's just watching the movie. He's just eating his snacks. If it was like the guy in Love Lies Bleeding, yeah. You know, if you're surrounded by a bunch of blocane and you're fucking jerking yourself, off to sleep, sure. Get back, I get down. Don't do a love lies bleeding at live action
Starting point is 01:04:54 Lilo and Stitch. That you should post about if you see that guy at Lilo and Stitch. He should not be allowed to go to Lilo. I can't be the only person that thinks about the love love. I think about the love lies bleeding guy almost every single time I go to the movie theater.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I think you, me and Holden are the only three people who remember that guy, but I'm glad that you guys bring it up so frequently. Well, because now I'm worried because Sidney Sweeney is coming out with the also the wrestling movie that she got all like buff for which oh, oh baby I can't wait to see it
Starting point is 01:05:27 but it's like, are we going to have another? I mean, I hope Holden doesn't get inspired and I will be making sure his own love lives and sleeping at the city. You got to make sure. Got to make sure at least that he doesn't fall asleep with his dick in his hands. You know, got to at least rouse him up
Starting point is 01:05:41 and be like, don't fall asleep. He can bring the fireball, but he has to keep his dick away. He's got to keep his dick away. So at least, you know, know, these are the kinds of contracts you make with friends sometimes and there's nothing wrong with it. But I guess we got to get out of here unless there was anything else you wanted to bring up. I'm trying to think through my, I did see the Phoenician scheme. It is great. It's up. I feel the same way outside of like, you know, Royal Tenant bombs, like, you know, all the original
Starting point is 01:06:11 West Anderson. Like, I like his style. I like that it's so, so exact and precise. and it my problem is it was good yeah and that's all I have to say about it yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:06:26 it's well done it's well acted it's well written it's good yeah all right yeah I get that I feel like
Starting point is 01:06:33 I often yeah after Zigo West Anderson movie that's another genre where I'm like I need to talk about this and read about it stylistically beautiful
Starting point is 01:06:40 yeah you know and it's like not everyone can be the Grand Budapest hotel and that's okay right and it was
Starting point is 01:06:45 it was cheek you know it was cheek G. G. G. And I'm not going to scream about how hard I tried to watch the show Sneaky Links Dating After Dark, which is the new Netflix reality dating show,
Starting point is 01:07:00 where sneaky links, I guess, is another way. They say that that's what young people call it. They call hookups sneaky links. What? And so they brought, they surprised them and brought these people's random hookups to the house. And so they're also trying. trying to fuck other people, but then their hookup is, I watched the first episode. I was like, I don't, I don't even think I can, I don't, I don't. It wasn't. And you know I live for this stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And if I'm not drawn in by the first episode, you can bet your bottom dollar. I don't think a lot of other people will. But also, though, if you continue watching sneaky links, anyone out there and you're like, Jackie, it is unbelievable. Let me know. Okay, yeah, let us know, because I am all caught up with Polly family. I'm all caught up with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. and I did start the rehearsal, so I will report back next week after watching more rehearsal. I mean, obviously I'm blown away by the first like 10 minutes I was blown away.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Although I will say, and thank you for your email. Heard on the street, bad tipper. Bad tipper. And you know, I, you know how I feel about a bad tipper. I know how Jackie feels about tipping. Oh, baby. She's the anti-bad tipper. She's the best tipper I've ever met.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And you've taught it to be, and it is one of the greatest gifts you've given me. I appreciate that. It is, and it really, it makes me judge a person. Yeah. Especially if, like, they're coming in late at night with a bunch of, like, people and you still don't. I mean, he tipped, but he didn't tip well. So, just throw that little judgment in there.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Just a little sprinkle of a judgment in the end. And we got to get out of you. I hope that you guys are full up in your bellies, but not to a point where you're feeling queasy, but just enough that, like, I could go get some pie. And bitch, go get you some pie. I hope you have a beautiful rest of your week. Thank you, everyone, for joining us. We will be back next week with page seven, and I can't wait, and I'm already excited for it.
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