Page 7 - Second Helpings - LEGALIZE ZOFRAN

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

This week on Second Helpings MJ fills Jackie in on how they have personally taken the Second Helpings lifestyle to heart, and Jackie is preppin' for the union of Friendsgiving and 4/20 on Sunday! Jack...ie reveals her plans for reeducation of the youth via Forrest Gump. Gayle King is now lord of space, and Jackie gives a rundown of the new season of "Black Mirror." MJ and Jackie are hackin' through "Hacks", and John Mulaney has a new live talk show on Netflix, and Jackie ponders why "The Accountant 2" got made. Jojo Siwa is doin' great despite the recent run in with a tattered leather jockstrap, which leads to a convo about pronouns, and Jackie gives a revew of "Warfare" and MJ asks for suggestions on what to see in theatre, and Adam pops in to help! Cameron Diaz shares some dirty secrets, Jackie gets spooked, AND MORE!!!Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:11 be better out of the round. Welcome to second helpings. Oh, mom, yum, yum, yum, yum. Oh, mom, I fall up. I need a little bit more. Come on down to second helpings, everybody. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:27 You know what? We at my home have done the last two Sundays, and it's been so great. What? We have had a bunch of friends over. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry. You're having friends over? Huge.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Huge news. but it's great. I don't know if you guys have heard about your friends and hanging out with them. Friendship is pretty awesome. It's so nice. So nice. But you know, life happens, as they say. Yes, you're right.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And so two weeks in a row, we have had friends over. And then, you know, what one would do if they had their life together a little bit more is you would probably work ahead of time before. Like what Jackie would do is make a lasagna, make a chili, something to feed everybody. We didn't. I'm childless, though. So I've got the time. to give while my womb sits empty and I just go,
Starting point is 00:01:14 oh, oh, to myself. So I've got to make a lasagna with these hands. But please continue. The tumbleweeds just blow you towards the kitchen. Yeah, I'm just like, I guess, I got to make a white sauce if you'll excuse me.
Starting point is 00:01:30 But no, we've just ordered, you know, ordered takeout, and then everybody gets their food. Everybody has a nice, big Sunday dinner together. And then everybody leaves their last. leftovers, if you will. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And then I, and me and my husband, who are not very good at feeding ourselves throughout the week, have several days' worth of second helpings, if you will, of all the leftovers from the big hall of, you know, delivery. And so it's not the most, my aspiration next time we have friends over is to make a big thing at chili. But even though, yes, it's not the most cost effective thing to order a bunch of delivery, I'm getting days of meals. So many meals.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And you're feeding everybody. I mean, it is my favorite. I mean, Springsgiving is coming up. Thank you so much, MJ, for bringing it up. Yes, Springsgiving is coming up this weekend. And, you know, one must start preparing early. I didn't think we were going to have a Springs giving this year because I thought it was going to be swallowed whole by an anaconda of 420.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Right. But together, the snakes have been mashed into one o'reboros of Springs giving where the adults will hide from the chivalry. children on their egg hunts so they can smoke copious amounts of weed. Yes. I'm so happy for you. We were really afraid you weren't going to have a spring's giving because all the people with homes were going to be gone.
Starting point is 00:02:54 They're all busy, but I found one. I scrounge one out like a little possum. I found a home to put it in. My home's too small. I was like, I need a home home, all right? This is more of like a hovel that I live in. So I need a place that's presentable, but this is what I do is I go to people with homes that I know and go, hey, I'd love to offer my services. May I host Springs
Starting point is 00:03:16 giving at your home? And I found one. Thank you, Sina. Thank you for allowing me to use your home and your family. Because Sina's like, please entertain my children. Yes. Oh, yeah. And also, I even offered to stuff all the eggs. And he was like, you're going to stuff the eggs. I was like, I'll stuff the eggs. Yes. Come to my house. Well, did Sina give you any directions for this is, I'm about to, this is going to. I asked. I want to say, I get Auntie of the Year award. I asked, do you want it all candy or do you want, like, dumb things that you're going to end up
Starting point is 00:03:51 stepping on? I know you don't want that. You know what he said. He's like, the kids would love it. He's like, if you would cut up just a sheet of stickers and put a sticker in a bunch of them, they're still at that age. That they can just, like, give them a sticker. And then they're, I was like, oh, okay, I'll do stickers.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I can do that. Great. question two, and this is where I really fear all of the, I'll get more excoriated than I've ever been for anything I've ever said. Are you going to delegate this, please, remember
Starting point is 00:04:22 not everyone has the same type of kid. Are you going to delegate some like, will the eggs have a color code or a label or a letter for, so that each kid gets an equal amount of eggs or is it every man for themselves? Oh, well, I didn't
Starting point is 00:04:38 think about that. I guess you have to make it so that it's all equal or else they're going to flip out. You might not. You might not. I'm not a parent. So I don't know these things. I don't know if the kids are going to flip out. But none of the siblings are close enough in age where it matters.
Starting point is 00:04:51 There you go. Because the little guy in Cetus family is not going to care. Don't care yet. He's going to get, he gets two eggs. He's happy. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't give a shit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. No, I think that's good. But the other ones, though, you're right. And I should be looking out for the sea. This is why you've got to talk these things out, guys. This is why when you're planning a spring's giving event and you're hoping, oh, that that turkey with Easter bunny ears shows up underneath your beds. I don't know how they got under there and I don't know where they got the bunny ears from,
Starting point is 00:05:19 but I know that they're looking great. And I'm like, I'll kill you. Jizzy, you get close to me. I'll kill you, Turkey. I'm just saying that, you know, again, you're listening and you're saying, MJ, you're the reason all the kids are soft these days. Kids got to experience disappointment. Kids got to compete.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And I'm- Yeah, break them for spring's giving. Yeah. And I'm saying I would rather not start. Easter morning with just screaming and crying and sobbing. And so for us, what works for our family is to have like a color-coded system where everybody finds their eggs. That is very sweet.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And then everybody gets in that way the scarcity complexes and the panic attacks don't set in. But again, some of you let like your kids find out the hard way that life isn't fair. And I love that for you. And I think that's great for you. And I aspire to let my children experience that level of disappointment. one day. Born hard, ready to be soft. But that's we got to just make them
Starting point is 00:06:15 they've got to break them to our image. Isn't that what we learned from the boomer? We got to make them no. Life's not fair. Get fucking used to it. Sometimes it's a sticker and sometimes it's a Three Musketeers bar. You don't know what you're going to get. You're going to sit and watch Forest Gump. That's what we're
Starting point is 00:06:31 going to do. We're going to strap the kids to a couch. And we're going to say you're going to watch all of Forest Gump. You watch that feather go. All right. You worry about his journey, okay? Yeah. Because you never know what you're going to get
Starting point is 00:06:43 and it's going to go all the way down. But we're going to end the movie at life as like a box of chocolate and never know what you're going to get. And so they're never going to know the end. Yeah. But they don't need to know the end. I don't think you know the end.
Starting point is 00:06:52 They don't know this sequel. Not when you're three. No. They don't care yet. Come back to me when you care. I'm going to start saying that to the kids. Get away from me. Come back to me when you care.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I know you don't care about me yet. And that's all I need as an auntie is just desperate for the love of the children that are in my life because they don't have to hate me. I'm not their parent. Yeah. It's great.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I love being an auntie. Way more than I. Well, actually, no. I take back what I was about to say. I love the Gail King interview after her Blue Origins flight. And now we are going to continue to talk about this because we have to. This Gail King interview is so insane. I'm talking about one.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It was posting on Huff Post. because of course, we were talking about this on page 7, the Blue Origins flight, the 11-minute trip to space that the glamstronauts went on. Sexy, makeup astronaut, bitches. You can't stop us from going to space. We're rich. Yes, and also, Gail King needed everybody
Starting point is 00:07:59 who's anybody to know that, yeah, they keep calling an 11-minute ride. But if it was a male astronaut, would they call it a ride? Yes. I think they would. So many things are sexist, Gail King. So many things are sexist. So many things. And I support you're right on a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:08:18 But you know what? People don't hate this because they're sexist. People hate this because it's fucking stupid. It destroyed a bunch of fucking atmosphere. Resources. It destroyed a bunch of money for a glamour mission for Jeff Bezos. That's why people hate it. I'm sorry, Gail King.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It really isn't sex. Yeah, but what did Gil King said, she said, I was one of those people before I went on this flight and before I became educated on space saying, why are we spending so much money? Educate yourself.
Starting point is 00:08:51 When there's so much to do here on Earth. But MJ, she realized, MJ, do you realize that the goal of Blue Origins is that like, okay, it's a lot of money, right? But you guys, Blue Origins is going to take, which I need everyone to know, did not understand this. I thought that they, this was like an Elon Musk thing. I live in,
Starting point is 00:09:15 I live in the gutters. And you know what? I have a great time in the gutters. And I live there with the entire cast of Les Mis. And man, we're singing and we're dreaming. But this woman was just like, I feel like she's talking about space like it's an MLM where she's like, and then my question is, is, have y'all been to space? This is my favorite quote. Because Blue Origins, she said, go to space, or go to Blue Origin and see what they do and how they do and then come back and say, this is a terrible thing. Because what Blue Origins,
Starting point is 00:09:45 which is owned by Jeff Bezos, wants to do. Sexist. It's owned by Jeff Bezos. Okay. What are you? Sexist. How could you not like it?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Sexist for putting your wife into space? They want to take all the trash on Earth. Great. Round it up. Lovely. And dump it into outer space. What could go wrong? Why shouldn't we just burn
Starting point is 00:10:03 an incredible amount of pollution directly into the atmosphere and spend so much money that could feed literally millions of people, why wouldn't we just send the trash into space? I don't know a lot about space. You know, like, I'm not a Gail King on space. Like, I haven't been there. Yeah. I don't know a lot about space. I don't know a lot about space. But I feel like it's not a good idea. I know I'm just a simpleton. But I feel like we should probably be working on like the environment or sustainability or other things that we can control rather than Jeff Bezos being like,
Starting point is 00:10:42 they guys. Yeah, this is want to run up. I want us. And everyone's like, Jeff Bezos. Yes, Jeff Bezos. Thank you. Such a good idea. Thank you, Jeff Bezos.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Thank you, Mr. Sparty. No, I love this quote from Gil King because it is literally like weaponized identity politics. You know, online a lot of people will, I think, sometimes in bad faith, accuse. People have, like, use it like, oh, I can't say anything anymore because if I'm not woman, I can't weigh in. You know, it's like, that does. Like, weaponized identity politics does happen. But this is her literally doing weaponized identity politics.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Like, have y'all been to space? Go to space and then talk to me about why this is bad. Like, I've, as a person who's been to space, only I can speak about going to space. You have not been to space. So check yourself, check your privilege, has a non-space goer. And it's like, okay, Gail King. You're going to tell me to check my privilege, Gail King? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Another line is, is it expensive? Yes. But one of the things they're trying to do, if you get enough people who are interested, it doesn't have to be that expensive. Oh, good. What are you selling me Yankee candles? Yes. Like, I feel like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:11:55 It's like, guys, if we like all, I know we like can't afford to live or like feed our children or anything, but guys, if we could all go to space, like it wouldn't be that expensive. And this is, okay, this is, I love, I love somebody when they're on defense and they're really grasping at straws. And in this one interview, she throws out like five reasons why people shouldn't be mad at her for going to space. And that's how you know that you're on your back foot. You should be mad at her for going. Because in addition to the, there's first of all the identity politics of I have been to space. You haven't so step back.
Starting point is 00:12:27 There is the, there is the MLM aspect of yes, expensive. When I am in space, you are not in space. When I am in space, you are not in space. I feel like we definitely slap a Hilaria on there. Never been to space. I have been to space. You're not been to space.
Starting point is 00:12:41 God help us if Hilaria ever goes to fucking space. Oh my God. I won't. I have to stop watching the show if she goes to space. Where is Madem? Don't there's that. It wouldn't be expensive
Starting point is 00:12:57 if everybody does it. But then also a completely unrelated argument, oh, this is a different, this isn't Gell King. This is Lauren Sanchez. as wife of Jeff Bezos had a different argument for why no one should be saying that they're stupid and everyone's saying they're stupid. And she was like, I get really fired up. I would love to have them come to Blue Origin and see the thousands of employees that don't just work here, but put their
Starting point is 00:13:18 heart and soul into this vehicle. Okay. So you're talking about people's jobs doing this stupid mission that costs a bunch of money for no fucking reason. Okay. The people work here. And it's like, I am, I'm not trying to. Okay. people work there. People can work in all sorts of jobs. Jobs are good. The fact that you employ people doesn't shield you. People work at Amazon. And I think people who work at Amazon should have great better working conditions. I think they should have a union. But it doesn't mean that Amazon is good for the planet. What you have done is bad for the planet, bad for human beings. I'm sorry. Angie, they're going to take this trash and they're going to put it in outer space.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I don't know if you heard that section of it. Like, don't you realize what this is going to do? Like, it's going to, like, yeah, it's going to hurt the atmosphere like over and over again. But, like, think about, like, just how beautiful the trash is going to be. Think about that moment in American beauty when you saw the plastic bag. But in space. It's space. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:14:21 In my brain, I feel like, isn't it all going to jumble together and become a meteor? That's how little I know about space. but do you want this person going into outer space? Do you want me to be spending your tax dollars going into outer space? If you're a feminist, you would go. I guess it's private money. I don't know. You're right.
Starting point is 00:14:40 If I was a feminist, it's a woman's world and you're lucky to be getting to go to space, you fuck. So I will stop screaming about the space mission. I'm glad we'll call it a ride. You know, a Lord help us. It is. At first I was at, Gil King was my favorite because she looked the most terrified. And I appreciated that about her because I'm not going to space.
Starting point is 00:15:02 My goal in life is to never get on a helicopter, never get on a small plane, and absolutely never get into a rocket ship. And so I appreciate how much she looked like she didn't want to go. But I don't appreciate how much she's grasping at straws to retroactively justify it. Girl, it's a vanity mission. And I hope you get your, I hope you get to feel good about it because everyone's annoyed with you. In every conflict, there's at least one bitch. A huge bitch, a silly bitch. A little baby bitch.
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Starting point is 00:17:20 I'm spending thousands of dollars so I can fucking this little plane. Oh yeah. That's one more thought is that Jackie, as Jackie pointed out before we started recording, it's not like they're the first women in space. They're not, they're talking about this as if it was a historic one. It's like, I guess it was historic for Blue Or. for them to be doing this. For this private non-NASA vanity company. Women have been to space before, y'all. Sally Ride. You don't know who I'll call a ride, Sally Ride.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Damn. A pioneer in the world of women in space. But yes, back to... Throwing it down. I could not do the Mile High Club because I would be puking everywhere, so I'm sorry. Isn't that not what you could... You don't think that's not like a fun lube? It's like, oh, this is Sky Lube.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You know? Be like, you want to have like really quick, like high pressure sex while you have a headache and you feel like you're going to pee. Yeah, dehydrated and upset and uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Check, check, check. Okay. This is why I can never run for president. They'd have to get in a plane every day.
Starting point is 00:18:24 This is why. I have said this to you. I was like every other, like you, again, check, check. Check. Check that you would like you would kill it. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't want you puking on Air Force One all the time. Yeah, I would go up to the podium and I'd be like, I need a minute, like every time, you know, so.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah, you just need a little bit of emetrol. If somebody can give it. Oh, oh, the beautiful, you know, the Zofran. Zofran. Give me that soap. Man, for the forever puky people like MJ and I are, man, give me that sweet, sweet Zophran. If you don't know what Zophran, it is a magical anti-naugia drug that they keep from us. They have magic and they keep it from us.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I know it's not the only magic that gave for us. That's my presidential platform is legalized Zofran, but I think there's medical reasons. It's Zofran! I vote. I voting for M.J. Let everyone know legalize it, and I ain't even talking about weed. Surprise. We need Zofran and we need it now.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Or else, how am I supposed to drink coffee all day? It hurts my belly, MJ. What am I supposed to not drink iced coffee all day? Well, you are reducing your caffeine intake, if I remember, correctly? Or did you give up on that? No, I've been drinking decaf cold brew. I mix it with the regular cold brew. Good for you. I used to make fun of people that drank decaf. I know. I certainly did. And I was like, unless there is a medical reason that you need to drink decaf, I used to desperately make fun of people that drank decaf. Same. And look at me now, MJ. I know. Look at me now.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I know. You had to do what are you going to do. People have said you could drink less iced coffee. And I was like, it's my reason for living. You got to drink it before I start drinking. get alcohol until the point in the day where you switch over to alcohol, you know. Obviously, that or my big vat, my 80 ounces of water. You know, I usually have my 80 ounces of water bottle with me wherever I go. It's my comfort. I need to be hydrated. In the way that I guess I need to continue watching Black Mirror, I didn't watch the last season
Starting point is 00:20:23 of Black Mirror. I missed out on it. I don't know what I was doing. I think that, like, I watched a couple of them. But I this time specifically looked up the best episodes of what everybody he's talking about and I watched two of them. From this season. Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Okay. And one of them is a sequel to the USS Callister, I believe is what it's called, the one that with Jesse Plemons from a couple of seasons ago that was so good that everybody was talking about. Okay. And they have a sequel and it's very good. And then there's also an episode that trigger warning for everybody. It is very sad, the Paul Giamatti episode where he is asked about.
Starting point is 00:21:04 someone from his past and he is asked about remembering her and he's like yeah I guess I haven't thought about her a really really long time and it's this like not a society but it's like an app it's like a program that essentially is sent to you to look at pictures and they go through your mind and then in your mind you walk through a picture to like talk about the experience to like build out where you were at the time and remember and then it's like you're listening to the music of where you were and it's just bringing back all of these feelings about people that you haven't thought of in a really long time and it's what happens after they die it's like a service that can be rendered by loved ones so you can get to know their past more whoa very upsetting and then what i do miss about black mirror
Starting point is 00:21:55 is that Jeff and I sat and talked about that for a while. Like, would you want to do it? Would that be something you were interested in? Would you want someone to go back through your past and talk about their perspective of you in the past? And have that be what is passed on? I don't know if I would. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:16 You know, I just got a memory of the reason I've never watched Black Mirror was because when at first premiered, we were doing page seven. And I remember we were in that. with the basement, the basement, not basement number one, but basement number two. The dukey basement, yeah. That we would record in with Marcus and you both being like, MJ, you should not watch Black Mirror. I don't think it's, I don't think you'd like it. I don't know if you would. I think it'll just send you an anxiety spiral and understandable. But now, I mean, Laura, how many upsetting things have I watched since then, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:51 But I think the specific, I know it's not just, I can watch upsetting things, but it's, but it's, I can watch upsetting things. but it's the specific like aspect, the type of upsetting where it's like a political dystopia that's not too far away that is particularly triggering for me. Like I had to stop watching Handmaid's Tale because I got to a point in literally season one. And I was like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, no, can't do it. And I'd be happy to tell people what that moment was in season one, but I don't want to do any like Handmaid's Tale spoilers. But I just was like anything that feels specifically like a political future awaits us. that that's the shit that really gets me. I remember almost nothing,
Starting point is 00:23:30 but I specifically remember it was Marcus and I explaining to you the first episode of Black Mirror and you were like, no, can't, can't handle it. And I understand, I get it. And I don't want to spoil it even though I think it came out 14 or 15 years ago. I don't want to spoil that first episode if you haven't seen it, but it's a doozy.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I've heard about it. I remember. But you, But it's all, it's standalone, right? This is one of the ones where every episode is its own little universe. So I could just jump in on season seven and watch. Oh, yeah, you can watch. Oh, yeah, you can watch whatever, except for that one episode that is a sequel to another episode.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Okay. But watch both of them because they're both very good. Okay. All right. Well, yeah, I can jump in on that. Again, I do like to be upset. I'm fine with being upset. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I live to cry. I only want to be frowning. I think smiling actually, you know what? I hate how many more calories it burns to smile. I actually know it is frowning that takes more, right? I'm not sure if it's calories or if it's wrinkles, which it's one of the things that we're supposed to be afraid of. Oh, I think frowning gives you less. Can we just tell that to ourselves?
Starting point is 00:24:41 At least for the next forever. I don't want to say four years, just forever. I was watching some other things that, man, upset me in different ways this week. Very surprised. Did I talk about hacks? last week. So I can't remember. We just glossed over it a little bit. I think not with Kara. We both watched it because Kara said she loves hacks. But then I think that on last week's We just mentioned that we both started it. So I know you have, you have jumped ahead. I'm still in
Starting point is 00:25:11 season one. And yeah, we realized that the young writer in it is Lorraine Newman's child, which is now hitting me. Like, as I kept watching it, I was like, oh my God. So the character she's playing is like a young person developing this relationship. relationship with an older comedian. And meanwhile, her mother is an older iconic comedian also. Like, that's a real trip. But, yeah, I know you have now zoomed through. And I would love to hear your thoughts because I know there's now season four is like,
Starting point is 00:25:41 is new and starting. So tell me. Correct. Yes. It is just season four, I don't know if it's the first or the couple first couple episodes just started dropping. And everyone has told me. It's the beginning to watch the show.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And now I am almost at the end of season three. In I think eight or nine days, I watched almost three seasons of a television show. And man, if that's not a review for you, I don't know what is. But I also don't know. I was key to, I wanted to talk to my mom about it. I kind of want to see how people feel about the show. I have a lot of feelings, but I'm also a female community. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 So I do feel like part of it, I know that we've talked about this with like the comeback and stuff like that that is a little triggering and is a little like, okay, all right, okay, it's getting a little real, okay, yeah, no, this hurts in different ways. And wow, so I'm so keen to hear people talk about it. I mean, obviously it's a beloved show and it's won a bunch of Golden Globes, but from a perspective of someone that's not a fee, like who has never been a female in comedy before, that has never, that like has never gone through that. experience to hear, like, did you think that that's what, like, did you feel that that's maybe what comedy was? Like, how do you feel about comedy after watching this show? This is so my- That's what I want to know. Absolutely. I would love to hear from people who love hacks too, because I understand, I completely
Starting point is 00:27:10 understand why comedians like it, especially understand why female comedians like it, right? But I also understand why they hate it. Yeah, yeah. I do also get that too because it is like the, I can't, I can't do this. I mean, in the way that we used to not be able to watch comedy because it was just like, I'm so envious that I'm not on the screen. I can't handle it. And I'm not usually in that place anymore, which is good. Yeah. Yeah. But like, but in the way that like I was talking about with the studio and like how I don't love like things that are just about the industry, I get, I think that as I've continued to watch hacks, I can articulate a little bit more on that feeling, which is it's not just like, oh, this feels like, you know, too much like thinking about, you know, my creative aspiration, like too much like work or whatever. But it's more that, yeah, I wonder. I'm so surprised by like the widespread belovedness of hacks because it's such an industry show. Yes. And I find it interesting as somebody who has been in that industry.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And I find the studio interested. I mean, I've never lived in L.A. But even my little connection to L.A. through you guys, like I watch the studio and it's like fun because I know people who want to make movies. And I and it's not like obviously, if you're not in the industry, you can still enjoy it. I'm not a doctor and I love the pit, right? But I guess when things like something feels so incitey, I'm curious to hear like what's really fun about it when it is so much a glimpse into this very specific industry. Whereas even though I'm not a doctor, it's like I have been in an ER before, you know, like I have, you know what I mean? So like a workplace, you know, a workplace show like that, it makes sense that certain workplace shows are really appealing to a broad audience.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And it continually surprises me that shows that are about the entertainment industry are so appealing to a broader audience. You know what I mean? Well, I think it's also like why we love The Pit. It's so much of it of a huge experience of so many people's lives that we probably, if you're lucky, when it comes to the pit, know nothing about. Right. You know, you just don't know about that side of the world. So that's, you know, hit us up patreon.com slash page 7 podcasts underneath this episode. Let us know what you think about hacks.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I'm just curious. I'm curious. It makes me want to go to Vegas. I'll tell you that. Oh, my God. I just always want to be in Vegas, baby. It is becoming a problem. I mean, it's not because I'm not always in Vegas,
Starting point is 00:29:34 but it's becoming a problem because I'm like, I could live in Vegas. I'm made for Vegas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really, really like Vegas. But then also, I'm looking at my list of what I'm watching. Of course, I'm still working my way through Severance. quite done with season two yet when I am. We'll come back. We'll have a big old season two
Starting point is 00:29:49 discussion. But I keep thinking about how Severance is like the ultimate workplace show because it is like this heightened terror. It's like what if you talk the mundane language of every office that any of your friends or you have ever worked for and you make it terrifying? Oh, yeah. Like this dystopian nightmare. So good. And that I've actually never had that type of office job, but almost all of my loved ones have. And it's so fun to be like office bureaucracy, stupid like workplace HR corporate language, but make it a nightmare. For your lives. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. But make it dangerous. Yes. Yes. Exactly. And so, yeah, I guess that's another workplace show. I guess aren't all shows workplace shows in one way or the other. Yes. But you know,
Starting point is 00:30:43 you just brought up L.A. and it is funny because everybody hates L.A. And I know this for a fact, because I started watching Everybody's Live with John Mullaney. And he has said multiple times that, you know, originally it was called Everybody's in L.A. with John Malaney. And it just kept testing so poorly. And the answer was, everybody hates L.A. They don't want to think about it. They don't want to know about it. They were, I think everybody, and he said, we tested after the city was on fire and it tested even worse. So they changed the name to everybody's live with John Malaney. And it is a live talk show that is, and I have been fairly against the world of Netflix kind of going back into live stuff. It's like, all right, that's what streaming is.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And now you're just going back. It's all a cycle. But I love what John Malaney is tried. over there. It is so fun to watch someone who is given an opportunity. Here's the thing. Late night shows are boring now. We don't really watch them. Our generation and younger, they're not watching them the way other generations did because it's so wrote. And while everybody's live with John Malaney is getting a lot of, you know, oh, this is really awkward, oh, this is, and lots of like some snide comments on the internet.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Sure. I see genius. It is so fun to watch because he always, like the episode that we were watching last night, we're watching them out of order. It was Michael Keaton, Joan Baez, Fred Armisen, and a personal finance columnist. And the whole episode that he wanted people to call in about, tell me his stories about lending people money. And they all had just awkward,
Starting point is 00:32:39 real life conversation that is not polished in the way that everything we see, we're so used to the YouTube that is like cut, cut, cut, cut, everything is so it's like, it is being made for the, you know, our generation and younger that have no attention span. But this show is going the opposite direction and I'm fascinated by it. They're doing, you can tell that he's obviously influenced by the like the anxiety and the tenseness of what comes from creativity live in front of many, many thousands of people. That's great. It's fun, man.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I know that I can't compare obviously to everybody's live, but even with like LPN Funhouse, I love it because, man, we've been planning it for months. Check us out May 1st, everybody, Thursday, May 1st. In a couple of weeks, we're going to be doing LPN Funhouse on Twitch.com. slash LPN TV. But it's fun because, like, it's live and we've got a lot of shit set up and hopefully it's all ready to go. We don't know how it's going to go. We don't know what order it's going to be in.
Starting point is 00:33:45 We don't know what's going to be gotten to. And for me, I love it. It's what I live for. I live for that anxiety. I live for that tension of what could happen live. And so I'm really enjoying. That's great. I love that.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Like the roundtable thing, too, it reminds me of like, the worst thing, well, I was thinking of real time with Bill Maher, which is a horrible, like, he is a monster of a human being. I realized when I was talking, I didn't clarify recently when I was talking about how I fell in love with Ben Affleck on Bill Maher. It's because he's calling Bill Maher a piece of shit. It's not because Bill Maher is good. It's because he goes, but Bill Maher is political, right? So they, so all, it's that roundtable, what will happen thing? But it's always, and he's an edge lord.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So he's like, it's like that, it's like what will happen. but with like who will say the most racist or Islamophobic thing. And that I don't like. But what you're describing is like a much more, you know, kind-hearted. Because Malini, what I love about Malini is he's just, it's like, he's not a mean-spirited comic, right? It's like so much more about, you know, it just seems he's community and building each other. He's supportive. Comedically, he's very supportive.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's fun to watch him try to include everyone in a conversation. Right. It's also fun as a host of shows to watch someone navigate that. I find it so interesting to watch how the show is built. Obviously, they do it like an SNL-esque. You know, they have a week to get to the next one. And they're writing the show and they're doing it all within that week. And, man, I understand if you watch it and you're like, I can't handle it.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It gives me hebi-jee-jeebies all the awkwardness I can't take. but I'm fucking all aboard. Sorry, you just said Ben Affleck, and I was transported back to my last evening because I saw, I heard about this movie, go with me for a second, called The Accountant 2 that's coming out this year, right? And I was like, the accountant,
Starting point is 00:35:48 wasn't that like a weird Ben Affleck movie? A while ago? I was like, why are they making another one? And Jeff was like, did you ever see the accountant? And I was like, no, why? And he's like, oh, God. and he put on the trailer for the accountant, and we watched the trailer for it,
Starting point is 00:36:04 and I was like, why are they making another one of this? Where essentially it's like, he's so neurodivergent that he can track assassins. And the trailer, which again, it is a movie that I've not seen, where it's a father that it's like, my son's disability,
Starting point is 00:36:24 he'll never be normal, he'll never be real, he'll never be. And then it's like, but he's got the mind. of a genius. It's like the good doctor, but for an assassin. Yes. I keep making good doctor references.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It's because there's so many good doctor clips in my algorithm right now. Why? Why? I don't know why. Why? It's so funny. It's so, I've never watched that show. I've only seen the clips and the clips are absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Oh, yeah. It's this 18 year old just being. It's up there with Reacher. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really, I don't think it's a well done. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not sure what the, um, nor a diverse community thinks of the good doctor,
Starting point is 00:37:02 but the clips I've seen are a bit ham-fisted. But maybe, I don't know, maybe the accountant does it well. I don't know if it does. And I, again, I'm saying this as a person I've only seen the trailers, so I can't speak for the rest of the movie, but I just really was like, why are they making another one? It's just, you know, this goes up there, you know, why do the Baldwin's have a second season?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Why are we doing certain things? And I love Ben Affleck. Not enough to watch this or to go and watch the accountant either. I think I'm going to miss them both. It's written by Bill Dubuque. That's my hometown's name. That's your hometown. Is it named after the guy that wrote the accountant?
Starting point is 00:37:45 The founder of Dubuque's name was Julian Dubuque and he was a Canadian. Well, poor Canadian, not a penny in his boot. In fact, I could sing the song, but I won't. Not a penny in his boot, you say. He settled in Dubuque, started. and digging in a bluff and out came some lead all dirty and rough. I'll stop. What was all dirty and rough?
Starting point is 00:38:07 Lead. And then you go, lead, he said, Debutte Gold. It's sung to the tune of the Beverly Hillbillies song, but it's an educational song about the founder of Dubuque, Iowa. Oh, so it's a current thing. I think my third grade teacher may have written it herself. I'm not sure if this is a song that other people know. I understand. And I sometimes, you know, I was in like the choir for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And every once in a while songs will pop into my head. And I'm like, is not a real song or did some bitch make that shit up? Because it's like, it's the easiest thing to do. And it's very contagious too. So share a little laughter, share a little love. And it'll come back to you. I don't know what that is. Just came from my toes, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah. Yeah. No, I know. There's a song. There's a Christmas song that just some lady in my town wrote and we sing it every Christmas and it's a good song. No, it's a town and it's got the Christmas got a big ass for Christ. I feel like Dubuque is really coming out with some hitters recently. You should move back, MJ. Have you thought about that? I should be back. I should move back and find all the composers. There's so many songs. I mean, Dubuque is really selling itself way better than Gail King. King had sold the Blue Origin flight reasons. I will say, get your ass back to Dubuque. Get back into that corn. And I know that I've been talking about corn boys a lot over on Buffy.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And that's because my brain is overrun with Iowans. And I apologize, MJ. I never knew I had to say that in my life that I was frustrated by an Iowin in my life. I usually love an Iowen. Yeah, well, right. Riley on season four of Buffy is giving Iowans a bad name. and, you know, that's, we'll talk more about that on Buffy. Oh, God, we haven't even talked about Jojo Siwa.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I was going to say. I was going to get into warfare, which is going to be a really sad conversation. And this is another sad conversation because on second helpings, yeah, you're full up, but you need a little bit more. Sometimes it hurts your belly, okay? Yes. And we got to talk about Jojo Siwa because I'm happy for him. Or them, or him.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And I love it because they have now opened up their pronouns. They've expanded their pronoun acceptance. Man, there are not enough of us with rapidly fluid pronouns representing out there. And I appreciate Jojo for this. Yeah, so there's a couple. There's three Jojo updates, okay? One is that Mickey Roark, he's out. He's out.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Man, Mickey Roark, can we never hear about him ever again? Can he just go away forever? You're done, buddy. You done. Outs. Yes. It was good that you apologized in the moment, but you have, I think we, this is an example. of somebody who has just done too many things,
Starting point is 00:40:56 meant too many times. There's this whole Bella Thorne accusation against him. Yeah, we don't even need to get into that, but very upsetting. Very upsetting. And yeah, the entire thing with Jojo on Big Brother UK was really, really bad. We talked about that last week.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Because I feel like Mickey Rourke does stuff that is horrific, but can be gotten away with. And that is so much scarier. And the fact that he can still get away, with the fact that he's so homophobic and disgusting is so shocking to me. And I, you know, it's times like this that I love living in my coastal elite Angelino liberal bubble that, like, I just forget that there's so, I mean, there's just so much hatred. Well, yeah, I actually went into a bit of a spiral after we recorded last week's episode thinking that maybe I was like didn't, that I wasn't like hard enough on him.
Starting point is 00:41:50 but it was because, and this is the case for not the Bell of Thorne accusations, but there's so much, so much of like what people now describe as cancel culture or like, you know, like a lot of the Me Too allegations and just general what people describe as wokeness. So much of it is a response to behavior that was seen as so normal for so long. For most of Mickey Rourke's life. Then you feel, if you spend enough years feeling like you're the crazy one because you think it's not. funny to say stuff like that and you spend years being told that actually you're the annoying one for not finding it funny or that you're the buzz hill for saying that a man shouldn't do that to a woman or whatever it might be that it's it's like I think so I was afraid that when we were talking about this last week that what and I was talking about Jojo and what a hard position she was in I was
Starting point is 00:42:40 like you know yeah it's true that she should have just been like fuck off but it's it's not so easy to do that right and you are you don't not when you're protecting a community not when It is also that unfortunately is on her shoulders as well to properly not shut down the conversation. And that sucks that it has to be on her. Right. Now people are going to say this is what this group of people is like. Exactly. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And so I was just, I was really thinking about this conversation a lot. I was like I, you know, fuck Mickey Roar. Fuck that guy. But also I like so under like it lives within me the urge to be like, how can I smooth this over? How like, you know what I mean? And so it was watching that that conversation happened on the show was so interesting. And especially, yeah, again, the, what in the education world, we would call the upstander of that British guy who was like, can't do this, mate. But, but then this has led to more Jojo talking about her own identity and her own experience as a queer person. And so, yes, she has said there's an extremely cute clip of her that thank you Astrid for sending me on Instagram of her talking about her. her gender and saying, I've met a lot of people in my life that are non-binary. Well, she says, I've met a lot of women and I love women. And I know a lot of men. And she's like, I don't feel like a woman exactly. I don't, I know I don't feel like a man. But the people I feel the most
Starting point is 00:44:08 like are non-binary people. But then, yes, in terms of pronouns. And I know I'm myself and right now talking about her being pronoun fluid. Jojo said, my pronouns are anything. Anything you feel on that day, whatever I look like, you can call me. And even seeing this in practice was interesting because the article about it on Yahoo uses both she pronouns and they pronouns for Jojo. And I just, I really like this. I think that it's really great that there's been an effort to get people's pronouns right. And for me, I feel like pronouns are hard, harder. Like, I find pronouns way harder than changing my name just because they are something that
Starting point is 00:44:52 I don't know, it's like there is when I was in grad school It's so based in society? Yeah, anxiety. Everyone would start a class by giving their pronouns which I like because then everyone's giving their pronouns and then you're not the only one giving your pronouns but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm not sure if this is a common experience for people. This one was excited about Jojo. I was like I've literally never heard anyone else say this about pronouns which is how I feel. which is like, yeah. But that's awesome. Do you feel it's like, is it, I mean, like in real time actually seeing, you know, representation for you?
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, yeah. Like I've just never figured out exactly what feels right for me yet. And it's been years now, you know, I came out in 2021. And my, I just was talking to some family, some family members, one who's non-binary and one who's trans. And they were like, what are your best pronouns? And I was like, man, I, like, there will always be people. in my life who call me she and I just am like okay with that and like she is not like actively
Starting point is 00:45:55 wrong it doesn't hurt me the way that it might hurt some people they is close but they is never quite right either so it's just I just it was I had literally never seen anybody else talk about pronouns with a kind of like I don't know but I'm just trying to be who I am the way that Jojo did and so I'm very happy for them yeah I really and just like I'm and also for those that don't know, Mickey Rourke did get kicked off the show. He's done. They finally got rid of him. And good riddens, hopefully we never hear from the bastard ever again until they find him,
Starting point is 00:46:27 you know, alone. And it'll be like one of those corpse situations where you're like, oh, my God, no one cared about this person. Yeah, yeah. And I feel that's just how it's going to go, man. And you're going to go live your sad, lonely life. And meanwhile, Jojo's doing great. So, dude, killing it.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Absolutely killing it. Yeah, love it. I really, I feel that like working, like talking with chat so much in like the world of stream, I just refer to any, because like, because it's all usernames, I don't know what anybody identifies as. I just refer to everybody as they now. Yeah. It's like if you don't know at all, if you, it's just use they. It's really not. I mean, once you switch it in your mouth, it becomes second nature.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And I think that it's just something you have to get used to. And I think that pronouns do cause a lot of anxiety for other people. And again, I've talked, I've talked before about my own fear of creating a huge part of my own fear is creating discomfort in other people. And that is a pathology. I'm not proud of that fear, but I have it. And so there is something about expecting people to change their pronouns with me, especially if I don't think that they will succeed that I have a fear of. but of course built up anxiety for so long how could you not right right but then what i love about this with with jojo and and not only i'm not saying it's like better or worse to if you have
Starting point is 00:47:56 pronouns that feel good you should say them and people should respect them right and i but i think and i'm always thinking about like well what about the people i'm always thinking about the people who don't understand this or who might see this and be like oh my gosh everybody's a everybody can identify as a building now or whatever and it's like no no no that's not the point and the point isn't that everybody's going to be mad at you? Although the Chrysler building, I'd look really good as it. I mean, just all sparkle up top. Like, I feel like it's like showy up top, kind of hides the bottom.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You know what I mean? I feel like I'm given Chrysler. And people are so upset about how many non-binary people there are and how gender fluid the youths are. And people are like, oh, it's gone too far. It's gone too far. Or can't you be a tomboy anymore or whatever? And the whole idea is just like, it's just what if you do. didn't have to have only two choices with a very limited set of behaviors within those two choices.
Starting point is 00:48:49 What if we just... Like, what if we just open it up a little bit? And yes, and of course you could still just be a boy who likes dresses. I talk about this with my kids all the time. I'm like, just because somebody likes dresses and they might, we think they're a boy and they like dresses, that doesn't mean they have to not be a boy anymore. You can be a boy who loves dresses. You can be a girl with short hair. You just also, you just have, you can, you can be whoever, you know, and like that. You do whatever the hell you want. You can really just, it's just about giving people the freedom to be who they are. And, and who knew that here I would be a year after karma saying that Jojo, Jojo Cooa.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Damn, Karma's a bitch and you should have known better. I should have known better. We were the bitches. Yes. Yes. Jojo lives. Good for you, Jojo. We're here in support of Jojo Siwa.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Man, wow. How far we've come 15 years of time, how much we've changed. I mean, Georgia Seawell was a child when we started this show. So it is a little nuts to think about. Now, I did want to bring up, you know, I have to talk about warfare. I know no one wants me to talk about warfare. I don't know if I should be talking about where my brain went while watching warfare. Warfare is a movie that just came out.
Starting point is 00:50:10 one of the creators of it is Alex Garland, who did 28 days later, did Sunshine, did that show devs that I was obsessed with that I don't think ever went anywhere. But I just, I think it was one of those like FX things that lives in my brain. And I don't know if anybody else ever watched it or if they loved it as much as I did. But, you know, there's a lot of shows that are like that in my life. Yes. How many shows I watch all of that I don't even talk about on this. Yes. because it's not that my existence is sad.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's just that you have to fill it, you know. You have to fill, you have to smile doing other things. And it's certainly not while watching the movie Warfare. It was very, and also directed by Ray Mendoza. And it was based on Mendoza's experience during the Iraq War as a Navy SEAL. And what I will say, if you like war movies or if you have people in your life that enjoy history or war movies, this is a great one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It does not. You know, Jeff and I often, Jeff is a big history buff. He really, he likes watching historical movies, likes watching, you know, war stuff. But something that always irks him is how often war is romanticized. Of course. Oftentimes, you know, many, you mean, anytime they're talking about war, it is glamorized of this like, but they give up their lives. And it's like they're trying to make it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 This movie does. not glamorize war. This movie, man, at the end, I was just like, what was it all for? And it was just one day. And it's the actual, like, they worked with the people that were still alive that went through this day. So they brought them back to the place where this happened to shoot it. And it is just one of those. Everyone is doing the most.
Starting point is 00:52:03 The acting is like, man, Will Pulte. is in it, he's fucking killing it. We get a little bit of Reggie in there, a little bit of Charles Melton. Reggie? He's fucking kill it. Reggie? We got Michael Gandalfini. He's fucking killing it. But this movie, it is an hour in like 25 minutes, and it is so brutal. And it really is just like, oh, this was just a day. This is just people that are like, oh, those are the bad people. We have to kill. They don't know what they're doing there. They don't know what they're doing there. They don't why they have to do this. They just have to get these things done and this is their mission and they need to do it and you're just watching a bunch of people senselessly die. Wow. And it just shows
Starting point is 00:52:48 where it's like for nothing to achieve nothing. And I don't know enough about the movie, about, about, I haven't seen enough of the of the war movies that have come out in the last 20 years, but I do feel like the Iraq War is in this interesting cultural place where it's in recent enough memory that I don't know how much cultural revisitation there's been. And even though, you know, there was so much anti-war sentiment and, like, that was like led to the rise of like Obama, there was also so much, so much of the narrative was that to criticize the war was to was, was not only unpatriotic, but was that, you know, to not just support the troops. And there was all this erasure of, you know, the groups like Iraq veterans against the war and stuff. So I, it's not
Starting point is 00:53:29 something that I, um, know that as a, as a culture, we have like really, like, re, re, very, like, revisited the way that there's obviously so many movies about name any other war, right, including the first Iraq War. And maybe there are a bunch of movies about this Iraq War that I, but it's interesting to hear about about one that takes it on because it does feel like it's something that is more delicate to revisit in culture because all of those, you know, the people who are still alive are still our age, you know. Still a lot.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I mean, yeah, or exactly. And while, you know, I am also, you know, I am also, you know, I. I don't know a lot about war and things like that. When I say for nothing and it achieved nothing, what I mean is that in the movie, if it did achieve something, if it was for a specific purpose, soldiers didn't know.
Starting point is 00:54:18 They were just getting a directed. So you as the audience don't know. And it really, like, it does make it so, like, it's almost, I mean, you don't want to say laughable because it ain't a, you ain't laugh in a mile a minute during this one. But it is laughable that. like of the senselessness to like it is such an extent of just like wow and people's so just a bunch of people died and this and that's the opposite of most war movies right like the whole you know there's
Starting point is 00:54:51 the whole why we fight thing and it's like for the country all this all these values we're protecting her values we're fighting for freedom and that's like the vast majority of war Brotherhood. Right. But then it's like, it is that like, but it's like we should be supporting and it's like, I am down to glamorize. I mean, I guess glamorize not the word, but like support how hard the soldiers were and how much they have to go through to give up their freedom for what for us like that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 How much they should have. Yes. Support them. They should have especially mental health care and they should have their physical health care. They should be supported in every way that they can be supported. Right. especially by our government. And it's like, those are the things that that's what I take from this, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:33 because they're people, they're human beings. Yes, totally. Yes, yes, of course. Okay, Jackie, this leads me to, I just got a text. But I'm talking about war, MJ. This is where I shine. I'm not changing the subject. I'm going with you.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I just received a text from a friend. And, you know, I don't make it to the movie theaters. I hate it when you have friends. I have other friends besides you. And this is the friend who I went to long legs with in the theater. And that's the last time he and I went to a movie together. And he texted, want to go see a movie this week. And you know, I don't see that many movies.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And so he gave me these choices. Mickey 17, Warfare, Pride and Prejudice, Black Bag, Snow White, Minecraft, Marie Antoinette. He then even said, even the friend or Death of a Unicorn or Sacramento would be okay with me. I literally don't know any of these movies. except that I know I'm not seeing Snow White. Huh? The 1995 Pride and Prejudice? It must be one of those three.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Oh, it's what are they just doing? Or they do what are we doing here? I was like, is there a new Pride and Prejudice? Must be they do throwbacks, you know, some of these, the Nighthawks and stuff to throwbacks. So what's it? Mickey 17. So let's take Pride and Prejudice off the table. Mickey 17, Warfare, Black Bag, Snow White.
Starting point is 00:56:51 We're taking that off the table. You're taking Snow White off the table? I don't want to see snow whites. I will say, if you are going to get. super zooted. Word on the street is, it is fun to laugh through. I'm just throwing that. I will say it would be the opposite watching experience of warfare. Opposite of warfare. Yes. Because from this list, warfare might be the most appealing to me, but I don't know anything about Mickey 17 or Marie Antoinette. Mickey 17. I talked about this on here because I was so excited to see it and was not as good as I wanted it to be.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Okay. And it actually, like, I know it's because I was so excited. I think it was because I was so excited to see it. Sometimes you guys know I'm a big woman with big feelings. And sometimes when I get over excited. Oh, yes. The Bongtoon Ho one. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Okay, you did talk about that. And Robert Patton's, it is great in it. And I think it would be fun for you to watch because it is a fun conversation movie because I feel like there were a lot more missed opportunities. and there's got to be something that happened in the making of the movie that something got lost. Because it's like there must have been either something else that had been taken out or that they had to be rushed or something because it is, I was more surprised. Yes, right, because Bong Joon is so good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I think you will really like warfare. Yeah. Black bag looks fun too. One of his beloved... Black bag is supposed to be fun. What his beloved wife, Catherine is suspected of betraying the nation. Intelligence agent George Woodhouse faces the ultimate test. loyalty to his marriage or his country.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Fun. You love a thriller. See, for me, I'll watch a thriller. For me, I'd prefer if there's a lot of action in it or if it's an erotic thriller or if it's a comedy thriller. It's like, I think I need a little bit, I need more adjectives when I'm watching my thrillers. Got it. That's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And I think that, again, Marie Antoinette, they must be talking about the 2006. one, this must just be Nighthawk having some throwbacks. Oh, it's Nighthawk having a Nighthawk of it. Having a Nighthawk of it. Because they're always, they're always showing old shit. So we're going to take the old ones off the table. Everybody's saying it's good. Adam says it's good.
Starting point is 00:59:07 You see it? It's the exact same creative team as Presence. Oh, Presence's the... Horror movie. The horror movie. They did two movies in a year. Same writer, same director, same everything. Did you see it?
Starting point is 00:59:20 I did. I liked it. It was like weirdly, it was like a not-d-d- Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Ooh. The show or the movie? The movie. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I did like the show more, but I actually like this more than both of them. Wow. It's like kind of a defense of having a good partner. It's a very strange like monogamy, or monogamy movie. I don't know. Okay. That sounds great, man. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:59:46 BlackBad. I love having Adam just pop in every once in while because if there is anyone, there's no one I trust more than Adam on when it comes to movies and television. And that is quite an honor to give a person. At this network where you guys have all seen probably thousands of movies betwixt you all. Yeah, Adam is the ultimate authority. All right, Adam, you sold me. He's the ultimate.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yeah, it's like a John Lecar spy thriller. Great. Okay. That just sounds fun. All right. Maybe I'll go see Blackback this week too and then we'll talk about it, guys. Fun. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I love this for us. What if we called it a sexy thriller? Would that do it for you? Is it? Adam, is it erotic at all? Huh? Kind of. Sotaberg's not the sexiest fellow on the planet.
Starting point is 01:00:35 He never quite goes there. But it gets really close. There's one or two moments that I really liked in a romantic way. But is it going to be mean? Like, you might be doing that the whole time. But I will say, I know who would love this movie. And that is my beautiful husband, Jeffrey. so I will go see it with him
Starting point is 01:00:55 because I did like Presence. I like Presence. It was weird and definitely was making choices so, you know, I'm down. All right, great. And it's the whole same team, Adam? Same writer, same... Well, Sotomberg does literally everything on this movie, so it's Sotomberg
Starting point is 01:01:11 plus same writer. And it's, you know, again, like Presence, hour in 25 minutes. I love that. Yes, in and out. I mean, even with Warfare, thank God it was short because it was just, man. there is just a section of it that's just 25 minutes of guttural. Ah! And so there's a lot of that.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah. And also, I didn't mention that Jeff and I were in the second row of the movie theater, which is usually not that big of a thing here, but we were at the crappiest of the Burbank movie theaters, so it wasn't that great. And so we were just, man, it was huge. I was just like, wow, they're really feeling it, huh? Wow, this Iraq war, huh?
Starting point is 01:01:51 No fun. I didn't yell that through it because no one would have heard my screams anyway over the screams that were happening on the screen. Wow. Well, I do kind of want to see warfare, but I very rarely see war movies for all the reasons that you just articulated about most war movies. But it sounds like this is a real good one. Also, 1917 was another really good one that I genuinely enjoyed that also it's like doing a spin. Ooh, it's a spin on the warfare. And I, you know, he's like, yeah, wow me with the war, everybody. Come on, give me something new.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And it's like, what if you're, oh, they're killing everybody with rubber chickens. Baccah! And it's like trying to shove it down. You're getting get it down their throats. I'm going to explode you. And that would just be like a zany way of making a Molotov cocktail. Put it in a chicken. Put it in a rubber chicken.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah. Yeah. Like as you're trying to throw it, like, stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. No one needs to know that I'm sending the Molotov cocktail over there.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I've been dreaming about Molotov cocktails because Jeff has been working on a stained glass piece of a Molotov cocktail. Wow. And so just I've been thinking about them a lot and just, you know, how do you create a Molotov cocktail out of glass? We've been having fun with stained glass guys. That does sound fun. I Doesn't it? You don't think it's fun
Starting point is 01:03:22 Don't you lie to me You don't care about my stained glass Nobody cares about my stained glass Well there's just one more But if you do hit us up What do you say? But if you do hit us up Patreon.com slash page 7 podcast
Starting point is 01:03:33 I would always like to talk about Stained Glass I support your stained glass journey There's just one last fun thing I want to shout out before we go Which is that even though we did hear The Blind Item that he has some light gations
Starting point is 01:03:46 Christopher Maloney and Mariska Hogarty were out in public being friends and whenever that happens I just want everyone to look at the pictures because it's... They're just trying to make us home. It's very special. They did it. It's very horny.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I was horny while looking at pictures of a basketball game. I know. And I don't know. I mean, I have if I'm looking at the players but if I'm looking at the audience I'm not usually getting horned up but just that little...
Starting point is 01:04:12 But it did give me, you know, it was just... I feel like I'm triggered by like Justin Timberlake. Like, remember when they were holding hands and he was definitely cheating on Jessica Beale? But I can't believe that the story you didn't bring up was Cameron Diaz's many X-rated confessions about her love life because I meant to bring this up in front of Holden because he is canonically sexually frozen. I was even like, wow, girl, and I am fairly open about my sex life. This, yeah, you, everyone who is even on the remote horniness level that Jackie is, if you like Jackie because you really relate to her horniness, just run, don't walk to read about Cameron Diaz shares x-rated details on her sex life. It is, it is everywhere these stories. But you know how, and I want to say this with absolute love to Cameron Diaz, you know how you just look at her and you're like, I'll bet you go crazy. And she just looks like someone who has a good time.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And it turns out. We're right. Like, what is it about her that looks like she's great at sex? You know, it's not just hotness. It's an extra thing. It's also crazy to me because I've never really been sexually attracted to Cameron Diaz. But reading this interview, I was like, oh, my God, am I sexually attracted to her and Diaz? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Because she even, like, said things that I surprise, because this was in the Daily Mail. So this is a UK article. And talking about and like not being, she's not being judged for what she has said. And I am surprised because she said things like, I'm always traveling for a cock. You got to go where it is. And then she also confessed, ah, ah, ah, ah. Sorry, what was that sound? Sorry, some weird thing loaded up on the computer.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Sorry about that, April. You can take that out. No, I say leaving it. I like how that was my reaction to hearing something. I didn't know what it was, just going, ah, ha, ha, helplessly screaming. Apparently, I had an email that had music attached to it. Oh, in case you wanted to spice up your email ad. I have a little spice on there.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I know you're just getting, you're just getting click horny over here while we think about Cameron Diaz. She says, I'm primal on an animalistic level. Kind of like bunk me over the head, throw me on your shoulder. You man, me, woman. there's something about moonlight on the body and things happening sort of free and open. So she's openly talking about wanting to be bonked on the head, like, consensually just being like, you take control, take me, I'll travel for the cock, you do the rest. And then they have quotes from decades, 2014, 2010, 2012, just all these quotes of her just being like, I'm horny, I love to have sex with women, I love my vagina, I love my vagina, I love.
Starting point is 01:07:12 It's like she's out here pioneering sex positivity for... Why haven't we been talking about this since the beginning of time? I had no idea that Cameron Diaz was like such a person up on a sex pedestal for me. I didn't know that she's who I needed as a celebrity to talk about sex. It's because every time I think about her, I either think about the mask or I think about, you know, there's something about Mary. And it turns out that she was probably the best person to be in. There's something about Marion to be associated with this like, you know, kind of bedrock movie about sex jokes because she loves sex so much. Good for her.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I'm with women sexually and doesn't, I'm just, she doesn't necessarily identify as a lesbian. And she's openly like, why do I have to? It's like, I'm not saying I'm bisexual. I'm not saying anything. Jojo of who you want to fuck. She's like, you can fuck who everyone. Of your sexuality spectrum.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Yes. Don't put a label on me. I'll fuck who I like. I mean, it's why I genuinely have just gotten to a point that I just say, what's my sexuality? I fuck people. I'm attracted to people. That is what I'm attracted to. Yeah, what's my gender? Person. A person. Exactly. It's like, it's talking about these things. It's like, yeah, we can open up these spectrums. Why can't we open them up a little bit more? Why do you have to say, if you identify as something, hell yeah, fucking say it loud, say it. proud you can do that. But if you are just in a place where it's like, I fuck people. I think we should be allowed to say those things. That you've got an icon in Cameron Diaz.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Yes, we do. So hopefully, you know, maybe you didn't have her as one of your sexual icons and now you've just gained one today. And you're welcome. She's hot, man. She's hot and she just got hotter. Dude, this has made her so much hotter. And that's insane because she is very physically, very, very beautiful. stunning. Wow. Those lizard eyes? Yes, please. Oh, yeah, oh, baby. I don't know where she's looking at me from, but I don't want to come. I'm not trying to be mean, by the way. There's like, we've read, we've read a bunch of stuff that describes her as having, like, lizard eyes because her eyes are so far away from her.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I also have talked about her breasts have being like lizard eyes as well, and that was back in the day when I used to make more comments on women's bodies, but I do specifically remember. I think that's why specifically iguana comes to mind. Okay, so maybe that's what I've, well, at any way case, I think that her beautiful, lovely, different eyes, respectfully, I like them. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You, I mean, look me up. Look me down.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I'll just take the look. Thank you, everybody, for joining us on this week's episode of the second hairpins. I hope you're all full up. I hope that you're not so full that the tunnels are trying to shoot the chew right back out your lips. Wow. If they are, suck it back down, baby. Because that's what you need. We're here.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Oh, is that not what? Is that not a, like a beautiful way to end this show, MJ? No, I want everyone to think about that what you just said next time they feel like they're going to puke. Think about me, guys. Every time you think about what it does. Think about legalizing Zopran and actually voting for MJ for president so that we can legalize it. And thank you, everybody.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I hope you have a beautiful rest of your week. We will be back next week, and I'm so excited. I believe that we will have the one, the only. Edward Larson next week on page seven. So come and join us. And my name is Jackie Zabrowski. Come hang out with me over the Instagram, Jack that worm, I'm eating snacks. I got to make more videos because, man, I am out here eating the snacks,
Starting point is 01:10:58 and now I got to make content. Because Jackie, a snack fluencer, is not just eating snacks in the shadows. You got to eat snacks out in the sunshine. So join me, everybody, and join us over on patreon.com slash page 7 podcast. Jackie's book club is getting lit, y'all. I am falling for silky stackhouse. And we've got celebrities. We've got so much going on.
Starting point is 01:11:25 We've got buffers over there. Come hang out with us. We've got buffs. We're about to start Julia Fox's book. Which everyone says is so good. We're finishing Heather Gay. book. We're having a great time over there. Unfortunately, we will be reading the Hilaria
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