Page 7 - Second Helpings - Live Más LIVE

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

Hopefully you didn't fill up at the Vow Renewal because it's time for a Second Helping! Jackie's Snackie's kicks off as Jackie makes the fabled trek back to TBell to get those sweet bday churros (after they both got too high and forgot earlier) and she's givin' them her GUSH of approval, it's time to catchup on OSCAR GOSS'! Conan was a great host, as expect, but the rest gave MID since everyone just decided to ignore the gendered elephant in the room, Adrien Brody should have just swallowed that gum, Jackie gives her approval to 'A Complete Unknown' after a very swaying Nardwuar interview with Timote, DEMI AND 'THE SUBSTANCE' WERE ROBBED, a highlight was Daniel Blumberg sassin' in their speech, and then Zoe Saldana put their foot in their mouth right after winning! And in non-Oscars related news, Chet Hanks put out 2 new pieces of media and we're all just waiting for the supercut of him from his new show (but he did get glowing reviews!) and this has Jackie waiting for him to rise from the ashes like the phoenix tattoo on Ben Affleck's back, each episode of 'The Baldwin's' is more upsetting than the last but MJ's decided they need to do some serious shadow work because the veneer is blinding and now everyone feels bad for Alec Baldwin and Hilaria is a villain, but it looks like the family of the WOMAN HE MURDERED haven't been swayed as they called their reality show 'SHAMELESS', Jackie's been watching 'Severance' season 2 with Geoff and it's sad but good, 'White Lotus' season 3 has them t h i r s t i n', 'Righteous Gemstones' is comin' back March 9th and Jackie wants to KISS 'EM ALL!, Jackie forced Geoff to watch 'With Love, Megan ' and it was so bad and so boring but Pam Anderson's is doing great, Flavor Flav is doing a 1-hour energy collab with 5-hour Energy for Daylight Savings Time, MJ's got some recs for a listener who wrote in, AND SO MUCH MORE!  Want even more Page 7? Support us on Patreon! Patreon.com/Page7Podcast  Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Page 7 ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We're going to do, give me one reason to pod here, and I'll turn my goss around. Okay. You want to count us, do you want to give us like a pitch pipe or a three, two, one? Oh, yeah. I guess, I guess I, oh, I'm sorry. Let me include my perfect pitch. Is that it? Nah.

April, we can keep all of this in. I think this is gold. All right, we're going to go in three, two, one. Okay. Three, two, one. Give me one real party, yeah, and I'll turn my gosh around. You can see me turning back. Is that it?

Did we just, oh my God, knock it out of the park, our brand new second helpings theme song, Welcome to Page 7, Selkhan. Second Helps, everybody. Second Helps, everybody. Give me one reason to pod here and I'll turn my goss around. Yes, this is bored of us looking at what songs are about second chances, as if this is our second chance. But we're going with it. I did lightly pitch the theme song from the movie Chances Are, but apparently nobody gives an F about the movie Chances Are, even though 1989 was a great year for films.

I also searched songs about Second Chances, and people suggested Peter Gabriel Saltberry Hill. And I love that song. They got my podcast up of you. I can hear the gossip. No. You're welcome. So whatever song you want, I'll turn it into a podcast song. I don't know if it's going to be good, but I can do it.

Please, page 7 podcast at gmail.com, if you have a suggestion or if you have, I guess, very strong feelings that it should be Tracy Chapman versus Peter Gabriel. The thing is, I think Peter Gabriel's out of my range, but Tracy Chapman right in there. Right in there. Oh, yeah. Too deep voiced. People just needing to be heard. That's what you get here on the second helpings. I think that we really, I'm going to be real with you, the Tracy Chapman is already stuck in my head. All right. This is it. I think, I think that's it. Let me one reason to pod here. We are here. This is your very first.

We can remember it by next week. I don't know if that will be the case. We're listening, we're learning, and we're growing, but we're also sticking with it. Yeah, growing horizontally. Yes, baby. I'm eating snacks. Yeah, I've been eating snacks. And I've been living.

I, you know, I have never said this into a microphone, so I feel like this is a really good place to bring my confession because I did confess this to my husband last night. And he did look at me. I don't think it would shame so much. as with like an impressed wisdom that he looked towards me. Now, I don't know if you know this about the Taco Bell Live Moss Live Live events that happened throughout the year. But that's where. I'm sorry, I just want to pause for a second on Liv Moss Live.

How do you know it's not Live Moss Live? Yeah. Spelled the same way. I mean, I guess I mean, I guess I just assume because of the phrase is Live Moss. How do you know it's not Live Moss live? that it's not But But

Live Live Moss Live Live You're right I don't know that it's that And maybe that's

what I came here to confess. Thank you so much MJ for giving me that opportunity. Live Moss live. Live. I'm going to now tell myself Live

Live every time I see it because the snack fluencers go I don't know if it's twice. year. I feel like they're always going to these live, moss, live events. It's an event. It's like a food and wine festival, but for Taco Bell? There's some sort of like stage where they go and they present these things. It's like what Apple does, where they go up and they're like, oh, let's get the lights going. Oh my God. It's an iPhone. They're changing the charge again. You know, it's like one of those.

Except at these events, everyone is smiling and happy and not angry about the Chargers changing every single time. This is where you go to find out where the drops and what the drops are going to be for Taco Bell to start getting you hype. And baby, I am hype. I'm so hype, but it is sad how strictly I follow the live, Moss live events. because I want to go there and I want to be a part of it. I want to be the one that's telling everybody about the queso crisp taco. I want to be the one that's letting everybody know because MJ and I, when they were in town, we went to a Taco Bell.

We did. Because I wanted to try the birthday cake churros because it's a collab from milk bar. And I tell you what, MJ, I went there after you left because, yes, we were very stoned. And yes, we forgot to get the birthday cake churros that we went to the top. Taco Bell to get the first place. We did. But I did get them after the fact. And Mama Mia, here I come again. I want those churros in my mouths. They got the goosh. You know, if you follow me over on Jackie Snack, he said, Jack that worm that I live for the goosh. And, oh, it gave it to you. And you, you know, you're looking at me like you're scared and disgusted. But I'm sorry. I'm thinking about the gummies.

that you peel. We got them from the bodega the other day. Dreaming to peelers. Giving them out to everyone at the playground. What kind of peelers? What kind of peelers we're talking about? And so a kid pointed out, not as good as the nanners.

A kid pointed out, this is interesting because you don't eat the skin of a mango, which is a great point. And you don't eat the skin of a natter either. I'm glad that, well, isn't it good that the peelers are providing less waste? The pealers are providing those. Because the peels are the problem, and that's what they're not telling you.

Simulation of eating an entire. banana including the peel. If you've always wanted that. You can have that. You can have that. And it is almost as chewy and possibly unpleasant as it would be to eat the regular peel. And I think it's good because I think that we need to be humbled as a society. Yeah.

And maybe what the government is currently doing is not enough. So we need to be humbled even further. You know, eat that nanner peel. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you got your birthday cake trows. You have been talking about this for literally weeks. Thank you. I think that you should be invited to the live model.

Live festivals. And I know you're on your way to becoming a snack fluencer. So hello, Taco Bell, if you're listening, I think that that girl from Love is Blind with the Taco Bell tattoo is nice. And I think that Jackie should come to your events. Or maybe people are getting into my Instagrams. They're telling me, it's like, you knew I liked family, faith, and Taco Bell. Oh, my God.

You must be spying on me. I can't believe we're still watching. We're still watching Love is Blind. I don't mean to speak for both of us, Jim. Oh, we're still watching Love is Blind. And we're going to talk about it. that all I want to do right because right this is our first second helpings right which is a com which is now going to be a catchall of leftovers things from earlier in the week that we want to catch up on and talk about also TV and movies that we want to talk about and also random lifestyle things slash snacks that we want to talk about so there's a lot to talk about this week because of the Oscars because of course the page seven you heard yesterday was recorded back when I was in LA before the Oscars had happened.

And so I want to talk so much about Love is Blind, and I want to talk so much about the Baldwin's, and both of those things are going to happen. We're going to have time management today. But we do need to... Are you saying I shouldn't have spent eight minutes talking about the Live Moss Live event? No, if anything, I have more questions about the Churros,

but I think that maybe we could come back to it. I want to know what the goosh is. You know, I'm... Oh, okay. I'll leave you in shrouded and mystery instead. All right. Well, this is a little teaser. We'll find out what the goosh is.

flavored later on in the episode. But also there's these like rolled steak and Poblano like cassidias that are coming out. I will say the steak crunch wrap sliders even though very, very excited about it. A bit of a disappointment. Really? And that's where I'm ending it. I won't continue talking about the things I'm eating at Taco Bell. All right. All right. I am steering. Now I guess we can talk about the Oscars. I guess a lot of other stuff has happened that we haven't talked about the world of celebritydom. a la the cruise ship on Dr. Odyssey. I am steering this ship back over to the Oscars and we have to catch up.

I know it's Friday as you're listening. Somebody's a dojo. I'm calling myself a dojo because I'm a Don Johnson fan. Uh-oh, dojo's in the house where the Jojo's at. Rise up. I want to know what you think about this year's Oscars, Jackie, because I know it's Friday as you're listening, but also, you know, this regular show comes out on Thursday. So you're not getting your breaking news here at page 7.

but the Oscars is a big event for us. There's the outfits and there's the movies. And thankfully, Jackie has seen probably all of the movies. And this year, I've actually seen many of them. You have. I have some opinions. But as I've got some opinions. As I guess I want to ask, did, on a scale of borough snorro, one to 10, I guess 10 is the most borough and one is the least borough.

Yeah, that's a weird way to do it. But we're doing it. would you rate this Oscars? Now here's the thing. It's Conan O'Brien. So for me, Conan can do absolutely anything and I will watch it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That already takes. He was such an amazing host. He did such a great job being a host. They should never choose anybody else. But this is also coming from a huge Conan state. Oh, I totally agree with you. And I'm so glad that you started there. And I think that perhaps.

opens up where I feel like the disparity is, which was that the presentation, like him being the host was so great. But the actual results of the Oscars, I feel like were slightly mid. Yes, very mid, very mid. Or even mid, mid at best, bad at worst, right? I feel like there were some big disappointments in there.

There were some big head scratchers. There were some massive flops of speeches, not like catastrophes, but just like, ugh, you know. Yeah, like Adrian Brody. Looking at you, Adrian Brody. Definitely looking at you, Adrian Brody. And those people who sang from Amelia Perez, really anything involving Amelia Perez. The fact that they weren't as a song, you know.

And the fact that none of them brought up trans people and rights at all. It's like they were scared to, even though it's like you know that just because this trans person didn't have the opinions that you agreed with does not mean that, like, you're scared to. even though it's like you know that just because this trans person didn't have the opinions that you agreed with does not mean that like you can just throw it all away of all the goodwill. It's like as if because the trans star of the movie is having such a bad publicity time. It's like let's just not even talk about the fact that this is also a movie like about a trans experience that kind of uses that. dare I say, to put the movie in an Oscar direction, and then none of them said anything about the absolute onslaught against trans people. So yeah, I feel like there was that. Adrian Brody, just I have so many, and you know that I want to kiss that man, and I wanted

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live on air. Help us, help you figure out Who's the bitch? Adrian Brody, I, you know, I talked about going to see the Brutalist on here, on Talking TV a couple months ago. Oh, short. Oh, so short.

I was like, where's more movie? Can I have more of it, please? and Adrian Brody did his Adrian Brodyist. I don't think he should have won. And on top of that, I do really appreciate the op-ed we received in our email talking about the genderism of the Academy Awards winning speeches, which was very flagrant and very apparent during this goings-on. of the Oscars and I, man, I know I shouldn't just be focused on the gum thing. People are. I know.

I know I should remove myself from the gum thing. I'm shocked. But for those of you that didn't see, Adrian Brody had gum in his mouth and so he threw the gum to his partner from like the steps. Yeah. To catch because he had gum. So you swallow the gum. Yeah, what?

swallow gum. If the gum's in your fucking mouth and you are walking up to the Oscars age, you swallow that gum. I've never swallowed gum in my life. See, we were talking about this. I don't remember if this was me and my brother or me and my husband. And no, I don't usually confuse the two just on this one manner. And we were talking about gum and one of them is like, oh, I think it was Henry. Oh, I was well it. Oh, swallow it. I was like, it's going to get stuck in your asshole. Isn't that what happens? It stays there for seven years is what I heard. And then you could be farting bubbles. And they could be coming from your asshole.

I'm going to start calling you bubble hats. It's very confusing, too, because all of the headlines about Adrian Brody are like Adrian Brody's repellent, disgusting behavior. And I all thought that it was talking about him silencing the orchestra to play him off. Because I did think that that was very entitled and rude. Whoa, so you were not against, you were fine with the gum. I also think that the gum was disgusting. I just think it's funny how much billing the gum is getting.

That man just won the high. award you can get as an actor and all anyone can talk about is what a nightmare man he is for throwing the gum. But this is an onion with many layers. Because I did not even realize that the person he threw the gum to, who is his girlfriend, is the ex of Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein. And the children that he thanked for letting him into his life are Harvey Weinstein's children. And so now that's a whole thing. Oh yeah. And then also there was the whole long ass kiss he did with Hallie Barry, which everyone thought at the time wasn't great. But they brought that back.

They brought back that. And she brought it back in front of his wife or girlfriend, I guess, not wife. Yeah. So there is really a lot, but people are like, how dare you entitled man? And I want to caution against, I don't want to, we don't want to pathologize relationships too much from what we see, right? Like maybe that's fun for them, throw my gum at you, you know. But it is gross for the nation.

A lot of people are like mad at Kieran Kulkin for being like, my wife owes me two more kids. I thought that they're fine. It was very, very in love with each other. It's cheap. It's cheek. They're very happy. I don't think that was like coercive. Yes. People, you know, we like to put our feelings onto the things we see.

And I think people might, some people felt like that was not cool. I had no problem with Kieran Culkin being like, you said, you give me four kids if I won an Oscar and I did it. I thought it was very cute. and she was laughing and it was all fine and fun. I don't want to assume that Adrian Brody is an asshole in his interpersonal relationships because he threw gum at her. But dude, it is a best actor category.

He is, I mean, it is crazy how much I judge in my brain for him being with Harvey Weinstein's ass. Yeah, it is. That really, I was like, the whole thing in another. Why do I have so many feelings about it? I know. On top of the fact that I have so many feelings about the people that won the Oscar, like Kieran Culkin, I really enjoy him as an actor. Love him.

I seems like everything. I enjoy him in interviews. I seem like everything about it. It was a nice movie. It's a nice movie. Was I like, wow! Not really. Honestly, I just saw a complete unknown and I will be fair.

I put off watching a complete unknown because I was like, all right, it's, you know, it's just from a couple of years of Bob Dylan's life, I'm sure it's going to be good. here's the thing. Timitai, he did the fucking thing. Yeah? He did a very good job. He not only did a very good job, he like put the work in because what got me to go see this movie was I know that I brought up that interview that he did with Nardwar. Yeah. And just seeing how much work, like talk about the amount of work he put into that movie.

But he's not like, uh, uh, actually slapped with the guitar. and son of my assholes so I can fare the strings inside of my intestines, you know what I mean? Like he didn't have to do any of that. He just did a really good, solid job. It's definitely more of like a concert movie.

Oh, yeah. It is a lot of him performing. And he did a fabulous job, but you know who also did a fabulous job that I was kind of surprised because I didn't even realize I'm going to say it, didn't even realize who was in the movie, Edward Norton.

Edward Norton, which, and you love Edward Norton, you would fucking. flip for Edward Norton in a complete unknown because he's playing Pete Seeger and he does such a great job. How? Sounds like him, sings like him. I think he did a fabulous job.

Oh my God. And also, they did a fabulous job with Timitay and all these other people talk, oh man, a lot of this movie is a slip and slide alert. In fact, Timitay, even in my brain, I was like, he's a child, but I could see if I'd watch this 20 years ago,

I'd be like, I mean, there she goes. I slip and slide for a young Bob Dylan. You know, that's the problem. So like, but this is the best part about this movie is that this movie is not trying to show that Bob Dylan was a good guy. In fact, the one thing that you really come home with this movie about is that Bob Dylan, you know what he cared about? Make a music. That's literally what he cared about.

And that is what, that's mostly what drove him. He didn't care about the people in his life. He didn't really care about any of his partners. and that was a lot of things that we know about Bob Dylan. And I like that they didn't gloss over that. It wasn't like a, but actually he's a great guy. No, there wasn't that. He's not like a grabist.

He's not a badman in that capacity. He's just not that nice of a guy. And I like that that's what the movie showed. But I thought Ed Norton did a great job. And I dare say a smaller role and Kieran Culkin did a great job. But I think the, I don't know what I mean? I really like Kieran Culkin. I really enjoyed a real pain.

I just feel like, I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I feel like between seeing him speak contemporaneously and seeing succession and seeing a real pain, Kieran Kulkin has a thing that he does very well. But it sounds like perhaps not as much of a like acting stretch is what Timote did in terms of getting the Oscar and stuff. I got no problem with it. That was like the least one of the lesser upsetting. You know what's upsetting?

No substance. Come on, guys. That very, very, very, very ashamed of all of you. This is what I wanted to ask you about, about Anora and how Anora basically swept the whole night. I really enjoyed Inora. Don't get me wrong. It was a very, it's a very good movie. But the substance I still think about, like the substance rocked me.

That was such an experience. De Me should have. of one. I do feel like to me did such a good job. Robbed. That was I was upset. Yeah. Yeah. Genuinely upset. I'm very happy for Mikey Madison.

She did a wonderful job. But you can't go against me and that. The quote that I can't stop thinking about is that Mikey Madison winning, there was a tweet. Mikey Madison winning is very pro

substance if you think about it. Like, it is the plot. It makes sense. Yes, it makes complete sense. And even if she did it, you know, I haven't seen Anora. I do want to see Anora. I was too busy this week watching the baldwins and love is blind, okay? So don't come from me.

I will watch Anora, but I... How angry are you towards Aladia? Oh. That episode, I wanted to put her through the wall. I'm so upset. Each episode is getting more upsetting, which I guess we could have anticipated. I guess because I guess because I'm, it is about like,

a manslaughter trial. Yeah, I guess. But also, what about if Alaria, what does Alaria do? But what do I do with the children?

It's like, this is not about you, bitch. Unsung heroes of the Baldwin's show, surprisingly, Alec Baldwin and Carmen Baldwin Baldwin, the 10 year old. Wow.

Wow. Wow. I know. I know. Wow. That is, who is all, I was like,

it's hard being. the oldest because like you got to take care of all the other. It's like she is still just a kid, but I don't want to look at the kid. I don't want to hear from the kid. Yeah, no, the kids shouldn't be they should be. They shouldn't be doing this. That's the biggest takeaway for the Baldwin's. This just shouldn't be being made. It shouldn't be happening. But yeah, so I, I know that anora winning, it's not like an upset or anything. It seems like by all accounts, Mikey Madison did a great job and it was a great movie and everything. But Amelia Perez, I think, again, I'm talking out of my ass because I haven't seen it, but that speech

where those people started singing was really unbearable. And I really liked the guy Daniel Bloomberg, who was the guy who did the score for, what even did he win for, the Brutalist, and the bald, sad, Docman. The snooze list. Did you? And he was just like, looked like he had never seen the sun before. He looked angry to be invited to the Oscars, angry to be winning, and then he mocked the team from Amelia Perez in his own acceptance speech for singing, which I really enjoyed. That was a real highlight for me. But yeah, I just feel like it wasn't that the Oscars were bad or boring because you're right, Conan did an awesome job. It was just that like, I don't know. And I'm happy for Sean Baker because I really like

Sean Baker's work. And I am excited that Anora got like the traction that it did because it is a very good movie. Okay. But it, like, there's so much in this Oscars where it's like, I see what you were trying to do with like the substance and like I guess you were kind of trying, I guess, but it still just went back to like the Borough Snoro movies that win. That's, yeah. I guess that's what if like the substance is so not your typical Oscar movie, you know? And I just, I. I really, I just keep thinking about how much to me wanted it and deserved it. And deserved it. Man, she deserved it. Yeah. And, you know, Zoe Saldañas when her speech, her acceptance speech was nice.

But then there was that really big gap afterwards when she was asked about how Mexicans feel about the movie. And I think the exact quote was like, I'm sorry that you felt, it was one of these, I'm sorry, you felt offended. You felt offended. And it was just really, really awkward. But also, she can't be like, we are, you know, it's like, what is, that's got to be such a difficult line. Poor Zoe Saldanya. Right. Can we just give the, I know we shouldn't say poor her because she did get an Oscar out of it.

But I just feel so bad. She didn't make the movie. And I know that's such a scary. It's like you just won the Oscar and then you put your foot in your mouth. That, yeah, that is, that's a very compassionate way to think about it. Because I just saw that clip and I was like, oh, yikes. But it is, she didn't make the movie and being asked about it. But you got to know that this is a controversy.

She obviously knows. She's like, she knows, she could have known this was coming. It's one of those things where it's like, you might want to prepare an answer about how Mexicans feel about this movie without being like, I'm sorry you were offended. Why wasn't she prepped on that? Like, I feel like that should have been like a huge part, but also, maybe. she was and maybe there was so much going through her brain because that's a lot to be going on and to try and keep hold of and keep charge of and knowing the way you're supposed to say something PR-ally has got to be very, very scary.

Totally. Because I just said PR-ally, so you know that I don't have to work with someone that works in PR. She could have been a little bit more PR-Ly. But yeah, it's one of those things, you know, in her acceptance speech was fine. She was like, I'm the daughter of immigrants. and, you know, I'm first person of Dominican heritage to win, and that was really nice. Yes, yes.

I guess also I feel like this Oscars had a little bit, with the exception of, I'm going to bring it up. But I'm thinking about Adrian Brody's acceptance speech and how he was like, P-Nest. P-Nest. How he was just like, oh, don't play me off. I have more to say.

And then he said nothing for a minute and a half. It said, he said, with the exception of no other life. land was what I was going to say, both of whose acceptance, the two people who spoke, made extremely clear and eloquent points. Yes. He was like, don't play me off. I'm about to say something. And I was like, oh, interesting.

Okay. All right. I wonder, there's plenty of points that could be made this year at this time with this movie with what is going. Are you going to say something interesting? Adrian Brody. No. Dog shit.

What did he? It was nothing. His whole acceptance speech. He was just like, oh, it's a time of hate is. Bad. Love is good. Okay. Good job, Adrian Brody. Catch my gum. New thoughts. Catch my gum.

Bitch, catch my gum. I don't give a shit about you, Adrian Brody. I'm sorry. I have now sewn up shop for Adrian Brody. This ain't open no more for you. All of that gave me such an ick so fast. I was like, all right, well, I guess I don't have a thing for Adrian Brody anymore. Yeah, it's over. 20 years of a thing and it's done. That's okay. you, Adrian Brody. You're allowed to lose it over time. You know, our changes, you know, grow, things fade. It just depends on how you're feeling. And right now we ain't got a slip and slide for you,

Adrian Brody. Thank you, Adrian Brody. And to Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife for helping close, uh, ex-close that flame. Oh yes. It is out. It is covered in a flame retardant and it is not coming back. I am happy though that I did get a complete unknown kind of in under the wire because I felt like that was something that I really needed to do. But I do recommend it. It is a good movie, but it's going to be streaming soon. Yeah, I do really, really want to see it. I fear that I will really, really thirst for Ed Norton as Pete Ziger. I'm ready.

I can't out believe I didn't know that. I love everything about that and I can't wait. And one, I knew it a lot about Pete Seeger because I used to date a country musician. So I feel like I've heard a lot about all of these people. And that's also part of the reason why I didn't really want to go see the Bob Dylan movie because it was like, yeah, I know all about it. Yeah, I know everything about it. But it was worth it to get past that. But I will say what I didn't know about Pete Seeger is, at least according to this movie, he really loved his wife and his kids.

And I loved seeing how much he loved his wife and his kids. And it is talk about growth. Remember early, page seven, when I would talk about the things that I would thirst for. And now I'm just talking about, oh, maybe I want to F Pete Seeger more because he loves his wife and his kids, according to one movie. I love that folk singer Pete Seeger was a good husband and father. That's how we're aging over here at page seven. According to this one movie. According to this one movie.

Well, I just like him for his songs and his politics. So the fact that he's a good. man is even better. Oh my god, the Pope's not going to be at the Ash Wednesday service, MJ. He's not doing what. What are we going to do? The Pope. It's a big holiday for him. I feel bad for him. I know. They're going to have to conclave about it. You better watch out. What if Ray Fiennes comes in. I was like, all right, I didn't get the Oscar, but hear me out, hear me out, what about the Pope. And I'd be like, just get him in there. Then we'll start calling him Ralph. I'm making the joke that Conan made. We need to bring the Ralph out of him.

Um, is the Pope, the Pope is having some like horrible gastrointestinal issues, if I remember correctly. Yeah, I think it's like bad. I think it's no good Pope-wise. But I just saw that it's Ash Wednesday and I just, every time I'm like, oh, yeah, I got to go smear. I got to go get my smear on my head. And he used to call it my smear. And usually I would end up in, when I lived in New York, I would go get a bagel because I'd say I'd have to go get my smear for the day. And I wouldn't get the smear up here. I get the smear down young. Oh, I should have warned Gideon that today is Ash Wednesday because as a person who is not Christian or Catholic specifically, but just in general, he's always like, you got something on your face. He will like reach over to help someone get it off. And I have to tell it like, don't do it. People will have stuff on their face today and you leave it be. It's important. Give me one reason to hop on here. It's in everybody's head. I guarantee it. It's not just trapped in mind. I know it. I know it to be true. What about Gene He has? Hackman. Yeah.

We can't not. I know we have to. It's so sad. We have to talk about it. How like the Oscars when Morgan Freeman was just like, we will not remember him for this weird way that he died. We will remember him for his work. Right? Right.

We're not going to remember like the phrase mummification, though. I can't not. Think about it. I really feel like the entire segment that they did for him at the Oscars was an effort. to be like, can we, can we not get too stuck on this extremely weird thing? I know that there's... But how can we not? Like, he was still, like, doing Pilates and biking everywhere at the age of 95.

Like, I feel like that's also way more. I was like, I want to know more about that. I also want to know more about how he was still living and still going. And, I mean, I will say he looked very scary. But I think that most people that are 95 kind of looks scary. It's what I saw what Bob Dewart looked like right before he died. I was like, I wish I hadn't seen that. Wow.

Sometimes the human body is just meant to stop at a certain time. But yeah, I, this is what's frustrating about this story is that if you try to read any of these write-ups about what happened to Gene Hackman, nobody knows. and all of the people who are like sources claiming they might know are not at all remotely connected to the investigation. As we are recording, there is no information

except about the various timelines of that he was dead for a while and the word mummification. And do you think I don't like that? The two dogs that were left alive, do you think they did it? Now that's the celebrity conspiracy theory

that I want. I want people writing in. Let me know how did Those two dogs pull it off. All right. They got rid of one of the other dogs. They got rid of the two of them so that they could run the house. Right?

And I feel like this is something like an all dogs go to heaven, but it's like a reverse. Like they're finally trying to like flip the script on it of like maybe not all the dogs go to heaven. Yeah. If the dogs did it, that's honestly a best case scenario. So I think that we're rooting for that. I guess. Or do you. Do you want?

the dogs to have come to a place of evolution where it's time for them to flip the script. Um, again. MJ, have you been treating dogs properly? I think this, everyone look to the dogs in your life. I bet everybody's looking over at their like, well-loved part of the family dog right now. And just look at that dog. Maybe that dog's thinking about killing. And you should start thinking about how is that dog going to kill me?

Yeah. And you should prevent it from happening. I mean, the thing is I know my cats would kill me if they could. They would kill me and eat me. And I'm, and I've just, it's just part of the deal with the devil that you make when you live with cats. But yeah, this is just. Just knowing that they're waiting for you to go so that they can chew on your toes. Yeah.

Yeah. I just, I feel bad that Gene Hackman has a 95-year legacy and that now everyone's just going to be like, do you hear his wife turned into a mummy? Mommy. It's just a sad way to go. I said, I'm more into daddy. Sorry. Oh, come on.

People are dead. Is it time for us to talk about the Baldwin's yet? Oh, yeah. We can talk about the Baldwin's. I was going to start talking about, I mean, you know we're going to talk about Chet Hanks at some point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about Chet Hanks. I can't believe you want to talk about Chet Hanks.

I don't believe it either. But there's two different good work. products from Chad Hanks this week. So funny. A music video that is not him rapping and a show that is him apparently being very appealing. And it is too bad because I did watch

the trailer for the show. You're talking about the show Running Point, which is a Kate Hudson show that came out, I believe, on Netflix, not that long ago. And it's something, something, something, something. Yeah, he's a basketball star. He's a basquist in there. And I

I am just waiting for the super cut of Chet Hanks. Yeah, because I don't want to watch the show. I don't. However, I thought it was a movie. I didn't realize it was like a television show. I was like, oh, this is far too much for me to give, to watch Chet Hanks as a sidebar character. But if anybody, like, if you find a YouTube or a TikTok, that's just all the Chet Hanks portions of this show, send it over to page 7 podcast at gmail.com.

Love to hear from you. The reviews, the reviews of his performance specifically are glowing. They are so positive. And I want that for him because you all know how much we at page seven want to like Chet Hanks. And then we had to walk that back because of all. Because we really can't. Oh, the petois. But the problem is that Henry and I forever, anytime we see anything about Chet Hanks, we send it to each other.

And we keep each other very abreast of the goings on of Chet Hanks because we've been waiting for him. It's like, can we just get rid of the patois? If you just get rid of the petua. Can we just not be doing this? Like, you know, you know, you shouldn't be doing that, all right? You're a fucking, Tom Hanks's son. Okay, can we not? A lot of celebrities have a cultural appropriation phase.

They listen, they learn, they get better, they move forward, and then they stop. We're still, I mean, we're still listening to old Gweny, you know, and she went through her weird fucking appropriation time. Many, I mean, many, many, many celebrities had, I mean, not as intense as Jenner. by the way, I just shortened it to Gwen. Oh, yes. I was like, I'm sorry. No, you look very confused. No, it's Gwen Stefani.

Gwen Stefani had that whole, you know, it's like that was... I feel Japanese. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that is. Because I was thinking about like Miley and Ariana Grande, who were both, you know, at younger times in their careers, you know, accused of cultural. But again, also, even with the Ariana's stuff, is that, was that her choice? I will just throw it out there just as a devil's advocate.

Or was that people controlling her television? her what she can and cannot do. I'm just throwing that out there. She was a DC kid. And I legit don't know the answer to that question. Me neither. And I feel like Miley, maybe it's just because you know I'm an extreme Miley enthusiast and perhaps an apologist.

But I feel like Miley took that note and changed and like really took the note. And I think that it's possible to this is why when people talk about cancel culture, I'm like it's fine. Sometimes you just need to like hear a little feedback and like adjust course a little. And you're like, oh, sorry. I didn't mean to be like that. Yeah, I think it's fine. And I think that Miley's a better artist for taking that note and adjusting course, right?

Obviously, what Chen Hanks is doing is a little bit more intense because he routinely speaks in a Jamaican accent for some reason. And he like also says about how like it's his right, which is it's not like not at all. But I will also say when White Boy Summer, when mad multiple summers ago, he was very angry about the fact that. the alt right took it over, although I don't know why. I didn't mean that. I don't know why he didn't think that was going to happen. But, you know, I think that right there is a snapshot that goes to show maybe he's not thinking through all of it. You know what I mean?

It shows you what you're working with. That when he was like, what I named white men specifically, I didn't expect white supremacists to be happy. And it's like, that is so sweet of you to not think that that might happen. He's like, I was talking about Jack Harlow, you know. So I do think that Chet Hanks might have good in his heart. But, you know, his actions are what matters. And apparently his actions on Running Point are great. And this music video that I did watch and I'm not going to listen to the song again.

But I will say it was not. I listened to it the one time. And that is, Chad Hanks' band. It's called Something Out West. It is a country song. He's trying to get into the country sphere. And it is. Taking a note from Posty.

He's taken and known from posty. And honestly, if Chad Hanks puts out a kind of Oreo, you know I'm going to track it down. I'm going to find it. Because maybe it's like, oh my God, if it's weedios, please, Chad Hanks, give me some weedios. I hate that I follow his career. But I am just, I'm waiting for the Phoenix. I feel like we are going to get the Ben Affleck's back tattoo from him. Yes.

He's a fascinating person, and I've never been ready to throw him out with the trash fully. And so I just want to see what's coming next from him. And maybe we have to watch this show. I don't know. I don't know. Watch the trailer. And I was like, maybe I can watch this. And then I watch the trailer.

I was like, there are just so many other things to watch. You know what I mean? I'm not saying it's bad. It's just not for me. Yeah. And that's, I didn't, I don't want it. A cheeky basketball show. I don't care.

about a cheeky basketball show. Sorry. Yeah. Well, if you've seen it, Patreon podcast atchymd.com. Yeah, let us know if we're very wrong and maybe we should be watching it and that maybe we're going to absolutely love this show

and I'm just going to eat my hat. But you know, oh, baby, shove it down. May it be bucket. May it be, I can't think of any other hats. Top, you can put it in there. Yeah. Top hat would be a big. Okay.

All right. So also stuck in your head? The Baldwin's. Okay, yeah, we can talk about the Baldwin's now. I'm sorry, I'm just putting it off because I was filled with such a rage when I watched it. I really need to like enhance my own self-awareness. I need to like meditate or something before I watch the Baldwin's because I'm learning about myself that I am extremely susceptible to the charm of Alec Baldwin. And it's upsetting me.

You know I have been speaking negative things about that man for years. on this show. I really, I did not like the way that he did Trump on SNL. Even before he killed somebody on accident, I was over Alec Baldwin. And I, I know that a lot of people really liked his Trump. And if you did, that's totally fine. I just feel like it was like, I was like you were, it felt like him. You know, he's just such a, but I think that what is so interesting about the show and maybe that's why Jack Donaghy is so good. It's just like also him. I mean, I know he is a very talented actor,

but he's just such a blowhard and that blowhard personality seems to be seeping through into all of his work for the last, you know, decade at least. But then you watch this show and I don't, everyone's saying he's just turning on his charm for the camera. I don't know if it's, I just, I really feel bad for the man.

I feel like he was part of a horrific accident tragedy that has ruined him completely. He is a shattered soul. He is a, there is no him left. But is that not what the show is trying to do? I know. That's what I'm saying. I'm getting had.

Headline, headline just dropped. Helena Hutchins' family demands Alec Baldwin testify in wrongful death lawsuit calls his TLC show, shameless. Oh, no. Okay. It is, yeah. So apparently he didn't testify. And now they're trying to get him to.

testify. Yeah. All right. This is it. I know I'm being played. I'm being played like a fiddle. I just, he, he does, he seems. Sorry, I'm struggling. Because he. I know we're struggling because we, they are doing the job of what the show is trying to do. Is to show him as a sympathetic character. She is genuinely, I think evil. I actually think she's evil. I actually think she might be evil. It's like, this is a thing. I feel like people can be like, how can you make fun of and hate Eladia so much, but then also be like kind of fine with Chad Hanks? I do feel that there is a difference between her level of evil. I think Chet Hanks is very stupid, like very stupid. Yeah. I said stum because I was going to say stupid and I was going to say dumb. And so who sounded the stupidest me? But Chet Hanks is a simple man who might do some more. It's a simple name. Yes. And I'm not saying that that is not dangerous in its own right.

But Hilaria is a level of, like, if you're watching the show, and again, let us just watch it. You don't need to watch it. Don't watch it. Let us let you know that this whole second episode was her lamenting over and over again to different people about what is Hilaria going to do? What is she? Also, I don't know if you noticed, but her accent got a lot more distinct when Alec Ball. when Alec Baldwin is not around. Very interesting how it ebbs and flows,

her, how biracial she is right now, which you're not. But I think that this whole episode was so much a me, but me, that it was so excruciating. It actually was a difficult episode to get through. It was very difficult to get. And when I say that I'm being charmed by Alec Baldwin, when I really, I hope that people know I'm not trying to excuse the absolute horror.

It's just what the show is doing. It's just what it's trying to do. Right. And it's just a fascinating thing because this is like he is a cultural figure who we've all known for 30 years. And he was gone through this weird, you know, arc of like marrying this woman 25 years younger than him and then having a bunch of kids and then having this horrible tragedy happen that was already kind of a time that his career was kind of like sunsetting. and, you know, I remember, I've said this before, and I'm saying it again, at the time, I remember hearing that the tragedy on Rust had happened and being like, wow, as much as I hate Alec Baldwin, like just as a person, I feel so sorry for him that this happened since it was a mistake. But then as we learn more about his role as a producer and his responsibility and the many safety violations that were happening on the set, it felt less easy to feel sorry for him because it felt like, okay, wait, this was an accident, but it certainly looks like it was a very preventable accident. So perhaps there is less sympathy to go around here.

And what the show is doing, I think trying very hard to rehabilitate him and perhaps successfully, because I do see that a lot of people saying he is being humanized by the show. But she is really, she is really, I am just the, I don't think it's like a reality villain edit. I think it's just everything we know about her. He's just in reality a villain. She is the most, she is such a self-centered, like fame hungry. She just wants, she just wanted to be an influencer, mommy blogger, and this accidental manslaughter really got in the way of her plans. And now she's like, or did it? or did horse them into getting a television show, MJ, which is exactly what I think.

She did. She vaulted this horrific event and is turning it into a reality show. It is insane to watch in real time. This is making me feel so much. Is it running man? I think it's a running man that I'm getting from this of like a, I know that I'm watching this because I feel like I should for what we do and for the. comedy of it, but I can feel a portion of my soul dying.

Yeah. Like more so than Milf Manor. Oh, much more. And that's saying something, guys. This is, I think, the worst reality show I've ever seen. Yeah. And we've seen two seasons with Milf Manor. And we're going to keep watching it for you.

I don't want you guys watching this show. Obviously, I'm not here to tell you what you can to get out to. You know, obviously, if you're already paying for Max, it doesn't really, you know, change anything. But I'm just saying, if you don't want to give them the click. Right. I understand. Right.

And I mean, we'll let you know if there's something you should check out. In this episode, he just talks openly about how he can't get any work anymore,

you know? Yeah. It's, I just feel like if he were to sever himself from her, he might be. Whoa, severance. He might,

some sort of redemption might be possible, but because she has wrapped herself around him like a boa constrictor and he is convinced that he has no reason to live other than,

it's so, it's, it's, It's bad. It's real toxic. It does. The mind goes to dark places when you watch it. It's really rough. Yes. And especially because weirdly that you did say the word sever, and I have been watching the second season of Severance. And it is especially we watch an episode of Severance right after the Baldwin's. And I was making jokes in my brain of like, this is really what he needs. He really needs to just cut it out. And by cut it out, I mean his whole life and his current reality. And I think that maybe he needs to be. be severed. And then they could start sending them to movie shoots again, you know? You won't know and nobody

else will know. But also the second season of severance, remember when Holden was screaming about it. And I just want to say thank you to everybody for the feedback that the reason why there was so much time in between was because, like, you know, there were some like, uh, some upheavals in the

world of the Hollywood industry. So we hadn't gotten, several, you know, there was like a quarantine or something. And severance this season is very good it's very good and i am making myself sad while watching it okay it is it's a sad one it's so it's another you know i forgot because we swallowed severance so fast last time and um this time because we had the episodes all bunched up we watched multiple of them in a row and then i just felt really sad yeah i i haven't gotten into severance yet but it does feel like one of the show, it's like, it feels right now like a succession where that's just,

that is the show that everyone wants to talk about. There we go. But the other, the other one of those is White Lotus, season three. Yes. Which we could also talk about. And I also do want to talk about Love is Blind. Walton, Gagons. You'll hear me go off on this week's leftovers about this.

But if you are on our Patreon, but I am just going to say it here for everyone to hear. I had only seen Walton Goggins in Righteous Gemstones, where he plays Uncle Baby Billy. Which also Righteous Gemstones is coming back soon. I don't know if you saw that, by the way. Oh, my God, no idea. Throwing that out there. Oh, yes. I did not know that Walton Goggins is the sexiest man alive until I began White Lotus season three. So I would just like to say, sorry, Walton Goggins.

I didn't know you were so unbearably hot. And now I know. Oh, I've been a Gaganator for. quite some time and I'm a gouging on it, gouging on it. I will gug on it. But also, MJ, I believe it's this weekend, March 9th, daylight savings times, righteous gemstones. It starts this weekend. Oh my God.

You're welcome. Oh, that's great. Yes, I'm so excited. Also, we watched the trailer for this season and this season looks great. Obviously, a huge righteous gemstones fan because honestly, I don't know in that show who I want to kiss the most. I like righteous gem shows probably shouldn't be a horny show for most people but it is a horny show for me. I understand that.

All of them. Every single one of them. Oh, baby. I just put me in a slurry of that family sauce. Yeah, I can see that. Honestly, a little bit going a little bit of that going on with White Lotus. It's not that I want to kiss Patrick Schwarzenegger because he's far too young. But I am proud of him, you know.

I'm happy for him. I'm happy. It doesn't make me happy what his, you know, brother-in-law said about him, but I am happy for Patrick Schwarzenegger. Yeah. Because Chris Pratt was joking around that he was looking at that dick during brother-in-law Patrick Schwarzenegger's White Lotus nude scene. I just, you know, for me, talk about the sewing up of what happened for me with Chris Pratt. The same way, like everything since. Everything since, everything about him ever since.

Maybe if I squint in the Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah. Because he is still like, he's still zaning and is still, like, you want to, like, have him shed the outside version of him. I want only the any. Give me the inny of Chris Pratt. You know what I mean? Yeah. But the old fat inny of Chris Pratt, that's what I want.

Yeah. He's wasn't even fat. He was just like, like, kind of thick. That's the one I want. Yeah. I don't want this version of him. He's a celebrity who fell from grace, like, whose goodwill, that all the goodwill that he built up during Parks and Rec, he has just absolutely torched it. But the weirdest thing about him saying that he looked at his brother-in-law, Patrick Schwarzenegger's dick in White Lotus, is that that is something that Patrick Schwarzenegger's character in White Lotus would say.

Yes. And I also feel like that's not even the most, like, of this quote of Chris Pratt talking about Patrick Schwarzenegger, that's not even what annoyed me the most. It's when Pratt continued on in a more serious note. He created a character, and it feels natural and good. I've been telling everybody for years. I've been telling him as well. I really think we're entering a decade of Patrick. I've been watching him.

He's just been working real hard. He's actually a hustler across the board, not just with acting, but with business and everything. He's super driven, and I know he gets that from both his mom and his dad. I want to puke. There's something about, I'm like, oh, shut up, Chris Brad. So you're like also sucking the dicks of your wife's family while you're doing this, but you're also like doing the like, yeah, I told me, oh, yeah, you know, just dedicate yourself

to a character, son. Like, I'm surprised you didn't say son in it. You know what I mean? It's, it's super like, how can I take credit for this? It just, it yucks me to my yucky core. It's so gross. And I know that there's like, I think it was a Patrick Schwarzenegger quote from this week where he's like, everyone just keeps thinking that I got this job because I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger's son.

But I took a lot of acting classes and I did a lot of acting. And it's like, yeah, you did. He's doing a great job. He definitely is embodying that character, I think, very well. He's doing a great job. I think that it's, it is a tough look when Nepo babies are like, everyone's calling me a Nepo. And it's like, that is just part of the term. You just got to take it in stride, right?

You just, my thing with Nepo babies is not bad to be a nepo baby. You just got to kind of own it and you got to be really good at what you do. So Maya Hawk is always my go-to example. Ain't no one upset that Maya Hawk is an actor. She is fucking fantastic. Yes, exactly. But it would be weird if she was like, I'm not famous because of my parents. Like, you are, you are even hot.

It's a part of it. It is a part of it. But also you're talented. Yes. And so. That's why you stick around. It's like, I feel like that the name can get you places. It's if you have staying power.

It's if you can stay there. Absolutely. Because also Jason Isaacs in this in White Lotus. Good Lord. Are you thirsty for him? Oh my God. Gideon keeps calling him hook and I'm like, he's not hook. Dustin Hoffman was hook, but he played Captain Hook in the movie Peter Pan.

Yes. Which I'm very upset. He keeps calling him Hook. But he's doing a great job too. My husband keeps referencing the Patriot and then he'll make a joke about how do you want to watch the Patriot? Because that is like an inside joke between us that Jeff is always down to watch the Patriot. and I refuse to watch the Patriot. I know Heath Ledger's in it.

Okay? I don't want to watch it. Yeah. No, I don't think I want to watch it either. But he's great. But I love Jason Isaacs. He is great. And it's like, why can't we just watch White Lotus instead?

And Parker Posey is great. Oh, my God. I keep thinking about Holden and how Holden is so triggered by the North Carolina family. He's so triggered. It makes so much sense that he is triggered by this family. It really does. I've met and been around his family many, many times. That is not his family.

whatsoever. But I could see him having been around that family. Yeah. Especially, oh my God, which they get so right. Have you ever been around a richer family and how it's like a weird sexual tension between like we talked about this with like out on the island when with the older daughters calling their dad's daddy? But there's specifically what I love that White Lotus is capturing are these families where the pilled out mom is also like weirdly like into the fact that her child is a sexual aggressor. Yes. And I like sees it as like a place of power.

And that is something that I've seen. Yeah. Many times, especially growing up in Florida, like in being around rich families. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. And it is like I, I'm sure that this has been done well in other mediums. But this is the first time I feel like, for me that I'm like, oh, this is that relationship to a T. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's amazing that White Lotus just does not miss. I feel like, um, I actually am wanting to go back and rewatch seasons one and two because I remember the feelings that they gave me, but I don't remember all the exact plot points. And now I'm like, oh yeah, that character is from an earlier

season. And I'm like, I think I need to actually refresh. But I am enjoying the hell out of it. I was something I'm not enjoying the hell out of. I will throw out there. that I was threatening Jeff with last night because I finally, after all these years of having an Apple TV, figured out how to just be able to go back and forth between apps rather than have to go back to the menu and go all the way to another app and open that up because I didn't know that you could do that.

And I was doing that to Jeff last night with, with love, Megan. You watched it? I will watch is a loose term. I will say I put on the first episode of it and I was just like, Who cares? Who cares? It. I was asleep. And this is coming from a person who enjoys Eina Garten. We love Eina Garten. I took a screenshot of an influence, one of my Mormon Republican, well, she's not explicitly Republican, but I have thoughts. Oh. Oh. She's like a Mormon influencer who I really, for whatever reason, find very soothing. And she talks a lot about her anxiety.

And she posted a picture of her watching, a picture of her watching the Megan Markle show. And literally said, I like this show. It's not super interesting, but it's calming. And I was like, when you're getting dragged by the like beige Mormon influencers for not being interesting. Wow. Ouch. Not super interesting. She's saying it's not super interesting?

Okay. It may be left so hard. I love this variety headline with Love Megan is a Montecito ego trip. Not worth taking. It with love Megan lacks a key ingredient. And honestly, it is just the energy. And I, there's something that is so calming about an Ina. There's something about like the calm, cool, collected confidence of Ina Garten.

I think that for me, or at least the clips that I was watching, she doesn't have the confidence, which, why would she? Right. Like it is like I feel like I did actually kind of feel a little bad because it was like, well, you're, you know, we keep saying, oh, you're being given all these opportunities. You're being given off of all these opportunities. You're not doing anything with it. Maybe it's because she's being told everywhere that she can't. Yeah. Because this is very like, I felt like I was watching a beaten dog host a show where I'm just like.

Oh, no, really? Oh, that's actually sad. But I also don't know if I was just looking for that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like if I am starting to feel a little bad for all of my snark. Yeah. Am I starting to feel because maybe I sometimes am an overly empathetic person?

And now I look at it. I'm just like, but think about what she's going through, Jackie. And I'm like, ah, I feel like I wore inside of my brain. I want to make jokes. And I don't think we talked about this last week or did we, that Pam Anderson's cooking show is coming out at the same time. Yes. And that the trailers are really similar and people are accusing Megan Markle of copying Pam Anderson's cooking show. But the whole, we read about it a lot. And like basically everyone,

the reviews of Pam Anderson's show were just like, she's just such a charismatic and interesting person. And the kind of like inviting nature of her presence makes it fun to watch her cook. And also she has these kind of like fun and interesting ideas about the home stuff. And that and what Megan Markle is just kind of like trying to create this, this aesthetic of like comfort and home and elegance and like Martha Stewart, but that the fire just isn't there. And yeah, I mean, you know, But that's what Pamela Anderson.

I'm reading an article right now that is talking about how like these side by side comparisons of how like if you want to see when someone has got it, watch these two episodes back to back and be like, like, oh, Pam Anderson has like a vivacity about her that is electrifying. And that is just not how Megan Markle is described. Honestly, I really feel like the Royal Family just biffed this so much because Megan Markle is charismatic enough to be in the royal family. Sure.

Not the floor with the rest of them. Sure. Leagues ahead of all of the rest of them. But they couldn't like, but their racism couldn't let like their brain think clearly. Exactly. so stued in the many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, generations of steep racism. They refused to let someone interesting be a part of that family.

They just, they have to, they have to excise them from the family. And so she is, like, I think that there, I think perhaps the disconnect with Megan Markle is that standing X to the Royal Family, she is an incredibly charismatic, talented, you know, public figure. And that is true. it just does not necessarily translate to being like a skilled television host or even a podcast host because those are just different skills. I think she's a skilled public figure. I think she'd be a great, nice public person who shakes hands and goes to events and does.

And I'm not trying to be dismissive. Like I might sound dismissive. I'm actually like that is a skill. Of course it is. That is an incredible skill set that she's obviously very good at. They just wouldn't let her. So now she's like, how can I apply these skills to something else? And I know she's an actor.

I know she was in suits. But again, one suits does not a Martha Stewart or nay a Pamela Anderson make, you know. You okay? Megan Markle is less Martha Stewart, more Marie Antoinette as, oh God. It just got more free. Okay. Okay. Well, I don't know.

We don't want that. Okay, guys. I know she, like, lives in like a $15 million dollar mansion, but like, I mean, I don't know about that. It is, that is scathing. It is, though, like, we're just watching, like, in one of the trailers, it is Megan Markle serving these two wayfish women, this, like, scoop of ice cream and, like, both of them, like, take a sip. And they're like, oh, um, to da da, ha. Oh, wow.

Like, I was asleep. And I was like, this is probably the first time either one of these bitches has had ice cream touched their lips in 20 years. enjoy it more than that. And I am sorry to bring up Ina again, but if you want... Never, why would you ever apologize to us to ring up Ina? I think that what's so enjoyable about watching Ina's show is one, you know she just like really enjoys the food, loves... Jeffrey. And like, loves Jeffrey.

Loves Jeffrey. And I really, I got to say, I ended up really loving her memoir, which yes, is a extremely boring and extremely low stakes, but I ended up really enjoying it. But I'll say that... Who knows? We might get to it on celebrities at some point, guys. You might choose it at some point. Yes, that's right.

Over at our Patreon, since Leftover is as part of this main feed show now, we are going to be reading Celebrity Memoirs. Yes. Also, yeah, this is over on our Patreon. Just so everybody that's not on our Patreon knows, we're going to start doing celebrities next week with Britney Spears's A Woman and Me. We will be starting with that And it's only going to be like the first quarter of the book

So just start loosely reading Or start listening to the Michelle Williams audio book Highly recommend The Michelle Williams audiobook And I need to figure out a way to Once Hilaria's book does drop I need to figure out a way to get that thing for free Because I ain't given her any money

Whoa I already pre-ordered it So even if you figure out how to get it for free I've already paid for it I'll fly to L.A. and listen to it in your house Okay, good, all right please Yeah, I know his memory. She just, she worked very, very hard for decades before she got to the point that she had a food show.

And she has the, I talked about it. I think already she has a new show called Be My Guest. And it's so great. And yes, it's boring and calm and you could go to sleep to it. Which is what you need sometimes. That's why I love my real house. They all sound like the Mars attacks. And I need it sometimes.

Yes. But before we get out of here, I do just want to sprinkle a little bit of flavor, Flavor on to the end of this episode because we were, I included an interview with Flavor, Flav, and of all the wonderful things he was talking about with himself, even though I love that apparently he was named Head Swifty, but by the Swifties, he was like, Taylor didn't give me that name. The Swifties gave me that name, which makes me know that I really truly deserve it, because he is Taylor Swift's number one fan. But what I really was zeroing in on is that Flavor Flav is doing a partnership with five-hour energy,

and they are releasing it over the weekend because in case this is your first time hearing it, folks, daylight savings time is over the weekend, but also what you can get your hands on is a limited edition. I don't know where. Flavor-Flave, one-hour energy collab, because he's putting it out for daylight savings time, and I want to find it. I used to be the queen of five-hour energy shots. That is probably not something that I should be proud of. I definitely drank way too many of them in the past.

I had a phase two. I had a five-hour energy. You can get it at the Dwayne Reed. What's not to like? Pop it right in. Gives you five hours. And then sometimes you take a little ten. You know, sometimes you need tenor.

That's the problem. We also have to acknowledge that Jackie does have a history of enjoying speed too much. So I think that you can't. You really take... Maybe I've got an issue in my past. But all of this is O'Natural now. So imagine what could have been if I could have just, oh, gotten that 5, 10, 15, 20 extra hours,

or maybe just one extra hour. So I like that he's selling little bumps. Yeah. Flavor Flaves, little bumps. And I wish they had marketed it as such because I think that maybe some people would be scared of a little bump. But I think a lot of people that used to be living the eight ball life would look at a little bum and go, I'm going to have a little bump.

That's a little adult bump. Okay, two things. You don't have to test it. Two last quick things before we get out of here. What flavor is the goosh and the Taco Bell birthday cake churros? Are you telling me it to chiro with a filling in it or you dip or both? No, it's filled. It's filled.

It's filled with birthday cake. And you'd be like, oh, that's too much. Like it's not, but it's not like a frosting. It's like in between a frost. and a pudding. Oh, my God. And I don't know if that makes it a frown. But it's not jiggly like a flon.

So it is on the inside and on the outside there are sprinkles. And if you follow Jackie Snackies, I think I've been letting people know that I will do anything for sprinkles. And if something has sprinkles on it, I don't care what's underneath the sprinkles. I most likely will purchase it and eat it because I love sprinkles. Yeah. And so there are sprinkles on the outside. And man, every churro should have sprinkles. on the

outside said absolutely no one because they get absolutely everywhere but for me I really enjoyed it okay all right

I will the thing is I'm never by a Taco Bell in my life in Brooklyn and New York Taco Bells just kind of suck

I know that I'm going to be live Moss living in front of you and I feel bad because you're going to be living

Mainos living yeah and that's um I oh live menos you're living

Manos. Alaria, is that you? Uh-oh. I'm sorry, my heritage is coming through, everybody. I guess I can claim it, too. I took some Spanish classes, so my heritage is calling. I got to get out of here. You said you wanted to end on two things, though.

Birthday cake churros. Birthday cake churros, what was the goosh? Was item one. Item two, just real quick, we got a really sweet note from a listener who said that their tween just turned 11 and came out as non-binary. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations to this parent who said we love them so much. We support them in every way. And we just were wondering, MJ, if you have any, like, you know, resources for parenting a non-binary child in this age bracket. And so I want to recommend this is from, because I don't, my kids aren't there yet, but I asked my Instagram community and heard some great responses. Some people recommend a book called This is a book for parents of gay kids, a question and answer guide to everyday life. That's by Daniel Owens read and Kristen Rousseau.

And then there's a great author named Kyle Lukoff, whose books I have read. I've read his little kid books, but he also has mid-aged books like, you know, Y.A. for middle schoolers that feature trans characters and non-binary characters. One is called A World Worth Saving. Another is called Too Bright to See. But that author is Kyle Lukoff. If you just Google Kyle Lukoff, you'll find his work and you'll be able to see all of his books. And also, yeah, if you have little kids, he's,

has great, great books for little kids that I've read to my own kids. And then there was two other recommendations. The Beautiful Something Else, another YA book in the same style, also featuring trans and non-binary characters and cemetery boys by Aidan Thomas. So those are all just like fun books for your kid to read. But in terms of parenting, a lot of people recommended this is a book for parents of gay kids just in terms of supporting your kid as they come out. So congratulations on being an awesome parent.

and congratulations on your kid feeling safe enough to be themselves. Exactly for instituting the communication within your family that is so important that a lot of people either don't have the time to or don't have the bandwidth to. And I just want to say I appreciate you for creating that open community for your family. I love this. And thank you for turning to us for Rex. And if you are ever looking for Rex, if you're looking for TV stuff, if you're looking for movies, looking horror movies, like, or just anything else you want to ask us, hit us up, page 7podcasts at gmail.com.

We want to start, you know, connecting with our community more in different fun ways. So hit us up. We'd love to talk. And I hope you guys have a great weekend. Don't forget, we're losing. We're springing forward this weekend, but it's good. It will be lighter later. It will be good in the long run.

I know we're going to be tired. Let the light in. But we got to let the light in. you so much, MJ. Thank you so much everybody for joining us. I had a wonderful time and now I'm just going to be dreaming about birthday cake churros for the rest of the day. And I want to say thank you, MJ. Thank you, Jackie. And thank you listeners for sticking with us in this transition. And I'm so excited about second helpings. Should we sing our outro song? Oh, we're going to sing it. Give me one reasonable part here. And I'll turn my gosh around. You can see me.

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